Right. Can you hear us?
Yeah, can you hear us?
I feel like this feels a bit more nerve wracking.
Talking to the guests. I know. Because you want it to be so good. Although it's funny
because we can record this over and over.
Exactly.
So there's absolutely no real reason this can't be perfect because we can record it
as many times as we want today.
Exactly. I've been practicing at home, but you know, sometimes when you're like, oh shit,
did I say that right? Does that sound like I'm reading?
Yeah.
It's natural. But obviously it needs to be read.
Yeah, exactly. And it needs to be standard. So it can't be like super ad libby.
Yeah. Exactly. Because it was just it ended up missing it. Well, not you, me.
Definitely me. I have another podcast coming up. I meant to tell you I was just invited
to talk on the Salad Stop podcast.
Oh, the Salad Stop?
Yeah.
They have a podcast?
They have a podcast. Salad Stop has a podcast, which is news to me as well. And it's a Salad
Stop group. Right. So it's Salad Stop, Heybo.
I've never heard of Heybo.
Heybo is the healthy bowls.
Oh, yeah.
It's healthy bowls.
Oh, Heybo. Yes.
They you know, they dropped flash. You saw that whole news, right? That flash coffee
just literally pulled out of Singapore with no notice.
No, really?
Did you see this poll?
Yeah. It pulled out of Singapore. 11 locations.
Yeah, because they were everywhere.
Didn't tell the employees. Didn't tell. Just literally just cut and run. Like they just
shuttered the stores and apparently they still owe a bunch of money to investors. And it's
like a whole big drama.
You're from China, right? From what I understand.
I thought it was Malaysia. Where's flash coffee from?
I'm not sure, actually.
I thought someone was telling me that it was a Chinese brand.
Really? Do you think because Luckin came in, they were like, well, we're screwed now. Flash
coffee. Where from? Where are you from? Tech enabled coffee. Indonesia and Thailand.
Oh, wow.
Yeah. After winning hearts in Indonesia. Hey, I liked flash coffee.
I thought it was all right as well.
I was totally fine with it. The kids loved it because they like the Nutella shake and
all that. But it's gone.
Wow.
But I do like Luckin as well. Have you had it?
I've not had that one.
I don't trust it though. Did I tell you this? I have this whole conspiracy thing about it.
I haven't seen it at all.
Really?
So maybe I've not been out.
I swear to you, there's like 56 locations in Singapore. Something like this. How many
Luckin in Singapore?
How do you spell it?
L-U-C-K-I-N. And that is directly from China. They call it Chinese Starbucks.
How have I not seen it?
Yeah, Luckin coffee.
Things like I don't like Starbucks or anything. So I'm really fussy now when it comes to coffee.
Yeah. Well, I mean, again, they call it Chinese Starbucks just because there's so freaking
many.
Yeah, there's 12 now.
The one with the blue logo.
Yes, that's exactly. That's exactly. That's exactly. That's literally the one that I'm
talking about. And they did this big intro promotion that was hugely successful, which
is your first drink is 99 cents.
Okay.
So yeah. What did you think? What did you think?
Yeah, I mean, I forgot about it since actually. Just, you know, subscribe to it or something.
Yeah.
Oh, you drank the coffee.
The tea actually.
Oh, the tea.
It was okay.
It was okay. I wouldn't know about tea.
Something that a young person can drink like a mocha frappuccino.
Yeah, that would never happen for me.
First of all, I don't have enough caffeine to sustain my life.
It's all sugar.
It's a bit of a sugar rush. But yeah, so Luckin coffee is this Chinese Starbucks brand, but
I don't trust it for two reasons. So their big product, their main product is the coconut
latte.
Okay.
And you cannot find anywhere on the website, the nutrition information or the ingredients,
meaning is it even coconut milk? Is it coconut flavor with normal milk?
Yeah.
There's literally no way to find out what you're drinking, which is terrifying.
Yeah. Like if I cannot read the ingredients of whatever it is that I'm ordering, I am
not doing it.
Not doing it.
Yeah. And there is no, I mean, internationally, because I even searched the Chinese website
and was asking my husband, I was like, does this say anything about ingredients? He was
like, absolutely does not. And I was like, this is weird.
Yeah.
So then you have no idea what, what that is.
Yeah. So, and I mean, it tastes so damn good. There's gotta be tons of stuff in there.
Actually, I think I, now that you mentioned it, the coconut thing, I think I've seen it
somewhere and I thought, it's called coconut latte or something.
Yes, it's coconut latte and it's like world famous coconut latte.
And I saw it and in my head, I thought, oh, that could be an option. Maybe it's just a
latte with coconut milk.
Yeah.
But if it tastes so good, then it probably isn't.
I will say it definitely tastes unsweetened. Like it definitely is real coconut, let's
say.
Yeah.
But like, you don't just don't.
Like, again, what is the source? Like is it canned coconut milk? Is it like, there's no
way to really know what it is.
Yeah.
So, and also the caffeine punch was not as strong as I needed it to be.
Yeah.
I need it to like make my eyes bleed.
Yeah.
Get back.
I mean, you guys are nutritionists. So like usually I don't think of all the ingredients
and stuff.
Yeah.
Just like what it is and you know.
Yeah. What tastes good?
Yeah, exactly.
Like my approach is always like, I am a cereal ingredient reader. I'll go to the supermarket.
If I'm buying something packaged, I will stand there, turn it over, like, what's in this?
Yeah. Yeah.
And that's just the way.
I just want to know. Like I am still someone who will drink, like I will drink my pumpkin
spice latte, which is like.
But you know what's in there.
But I know exactly how it's made and how many grams of sugar in it. And I know if I get
two pumps versus four, I can save myself 13 grams of sugar. Like I can control it.
Yeah.
I know what it is so I can control it. Whereas this coconut latte, I was like, is there something
I could ask for that I don't like, is it you can ask for no sugar? So that is the thing.
But you know that their whole business model is that there's you don't speak to the baristas.
How do you do it?
You order through an app and then it your then your number comes up and you pick it
up from the counter.
Oh, that's it.
You never interact with a human being.
Wow.
At any point.
That's interesting. Yeah.
But you have to download the app.
You have to. It's the only way to order. You cannot go to the counter and order a coffee.
You have to do it through the app.
That's a membership thing as well.
Yeah, they definitely have a membership thing.
Because I don't know if you if it's the same here, but in the UK, there's this like a coffee
shop is either Costa or Cafe Nero. I think it's Costa.
I do know Costa, which I like it.
I like that place.
So no, is it Costa? Yeah. So you basically pay a monthly subscription and it's like 10
pound a month and you can unlimited coffee.
No way.
And like honestly, no joke, right? Because my mom, she signed up for it and she would
be like, right, OK, I'm going to Costa, but they have got a limit.
So the way it works is you cannot buy more than one within half an hour.
I mean, that's that's barely a limit.
That's barely a limit.
Right. So you have to keep you can keep going back, but you have to buy one like every half
an hour.
I mean, that in no way would like, for example, if you and I went there together and we were
going to work for an hour, you could get your first coffee and then half hour later, I will
go get my coffee.
Exactly.
We can still have free coffee.
Exactly.
And then things will just.
Yeah. And just chill.
Yeah, because it's like free refills in a way.
You just you naturally every half hour.
And this is the other thing.
It's like when I used to when I got when I was at university, I got obsessed with Starbucks
Chai Tea Lattes.
Oh, yeah, they are good.
And they were three pound fifty.
And I think I was having like three a day.
God, sounds so unhealthy.
Right.
Three days.
It's expensive.
It sounds expensive.
Yeah.
Because, you know, like in one day I would be spending more than 10 pounds.
That's that is a really high.
That's higher than my personal cost.
Yeah.
You know.
And then I remember my dad found out and he's like, right, you are not drinking.
I think at the end of the month I stopped like I made a conscious effort.
Yeah.
At the end of the month, I was able to go out and buy some boots because I saved that
much money.
I mean, it is that much money.
That is a lot of money.
Yeah.
Although I'm not like I said, I don't need to reveal my Starbucks budget either, because
like the kids like my kids love the signature chocolate.
Do you have your face on their wall of fame?
I have to be one of their top customers.
I have to.
There's almost no way that I'm not for the duration of time and the amount of money.
Yeah.
Like both the loyalty perspective and the net number.
Like it has to be.
Do you remember when you wrote your name down?
Yeah.
Your face and like Amanda.
Yeah.
Oh, this lady.
I have a friend who did have his face on their hall of fame or whatever it was, but then
now he's actually stopped drinking coffee.
I think he just realized, I think this is too much, but he used to, it was a picture
of him on the wall.
I mean, I deserve it.
I'll tell you that.
I definitely deserve it.
You should.
You should go in there and be like, my face up there.
Yeah.
I'll show you my account with like my star's history or whatever.
It has to be the best.
I think I was that a few years ago, but I've just stopped drinking.
Now I just make coffee at home and it's probably because I'm supercharging my coffee.
Like I'm adding in my collagen, my glycine, my NMN.
I'm like putting so much, oh, creatine.
I'm like adding everything into my coffee just so it's easier to get my supplements.
I do put creatine in my home coffee.
Yeah, so do I.
And it has to be the flavorless stuff.
Oh God.
Yeah.
I've had, I've added some, I added NMN cause I'm putting that into my coffee.
Okay.
And what I did was I think I changed the one I bought and I didn't realize it had trans
reservital in there and I put it in and I was like, Oh my God, this is so bitter.
It's ruined my coffee.
So you have to be really careful about what goes into your coffee.
Yeah.
Luckily, like I said, creatine, you don't taste anything.
No, no, no, no.
It literally disappears.
It's that is like another reason it's fantastic.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay.
Shall we try?
I've got like 15 minutes of content actually.
Amazing.
I don't know why, but it's pretty rolling.
Yeah.
Any type of content.
Yeah.
Awesome.