WEBVTT 00:00:33.390 --> 00:00:35.289 Hey, Chris. How's it going? Good. How you doing, 00:00:35.369 --> 00:00:39.549 John? I'm pretty good. I have to admit, I'm looking 00:00:39.549 --> 00:00:43.509 at that red button after last time. Like, are 00:00:43.509 --> 00:00:46.890 you on? Well, it was on, and then it wasn't on, 00:00:47.030 --> 00:00:52.429 and then we brought it back on. Yeah. Yeah. So, 00:00:52.490 --> 00:00:55.609 feeling a little gun -shy. But I did make sure 00:00:55.609 --> 00:01:02.679 and bring my... Special recorder. Big SD. Big 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:08.959 SD. No. SSD. SSD. Big SSD. Sorry. It is the end 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:11.620 of the day. It is the end of the day. Wednesdays 00:01:11.620 --> 00:01:16.299 are not easy for me right now, but this is a 00:01:16.299 --> 00:01:21.500 welcome end to what is a hard day. Yes. Yes. 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:28.390 We've got the whole. one terabyte storage. So 00:01:28.390 --> 00:01:29.969 I think, I think we're going to be, we're going 00:01:29.969 --> 00:01:31.450 to be good. We're not going to run out this time. 00:01:31.530 --> 00:01:35.129 No, definitely says 12 plus hours, which is always 00:01:35.129 --> 00:01:37.650 funny. Cause I mean, it's like, it's like, it's 00:01:37.650 --> 00:01:41.189 like road can't count past 12. They're like, 00:01:41.230 --> 00:01:43.750 you've got enough 12 plus hours. I don't, I don't 00:01:43.750 --> 00:01:45.890 even, I don't even know if that many hours exist. 00:01:46.090 --> 00:01:52.760 Yeah. You're good. Here we are. Yes. Well, good 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:55.120 show chris yeah talk to you later yep see y 'all 00:01:55.120 --> 00:02:02.340 in two weeks oh my gosh anyway we uh we got off 00:02:02.340 --> 00:02:05.760 our game and that's my fault that's okay sickness 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.759 happens i was sick it's all right so those of 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.580 you that were really like pining for that last 00:02:11.580 --> 00:02:16.180 for this episode but earlier i'm really sorry 00:02:16.180 --> 00:02:21.550 no i will use I will move as quick as I can to 00:02:21.550 --> 00:02:25.250 get this one out because we record again next 00:02:25.250 --> 00:02:27.090 week. Next week, and we've got a schedule to 00:02:27.090 --> 00:02:30.629 keep. We do. We do. We missed it this week. No 00:02:30.629 --> 00:02:32.750 big deal. We'll get it out, and then we'll be 00:02:32.750 --> 00:02:35.490 back on schedule. Because we've got stuff coming. 00:02:35.590 --> 00:02:37.889 But before we get to the stuff coming. We have 00:02:37.889 --> 00:02:40.189 other stuff. We have other stuff. So do you want 00:02:40.189 --> 00:02:44.110 the one that requires the mug first? It's your 00:02:44.110 --> 00:02:49.879 beer, man. You tell me what we're doing. Well, 00:02:50.060 --> 00:02:52.520 I mean, you've got such nice frostiness on the 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:54.400 mug. I don't want you to lose it. That mug is 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:57.539 very frosty right now. So let's go with the mug, 00:02:57.620 --> 00:02:59.960 the one for the mug, and then the others are 00:02:59.960 --> 00:03:02.919 in the bottle. Okay. And they can hold. They 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:09.419 can wait. Make it wait. The anticipation is killing 00:03:09.419 --> 00:03:12.199 me. My mug is not as impressive. Well, it is. 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:14.740 It's not frosty. The exact same mug. It's just 00:03:14.740 --> 00:03:17.750 not. It's cool, but it's not. Frosty. This was 00:03:17.750 --> 00:03:20.750 in the freezer for weeks. All right, here we 00:03:20.750 --> 00:03:25.569 go. Oh, yes. Big reveal yet not big reveal. I 00:03:25.569 --> 00:03:28.050 forgot about it. Yes. Bringing it back because 00:03:28.050 --> 00:03:29.750 we didn't get it a couple of shows ago. You're 00:03:29.750 --> 00:03:34.370 right. Delirium Nocturnum. It is a family brewery. 00:03:35.449 --> 00:03:37.430 Brewery. I'm talking about I've already been 00:03:37.430 --> 00:03:39.990 drinking too much. I'm just saying. It is a Belgian 00:03:39.990 --> 00:03:42.490 ale. It's the fatigue, guys. It's the fatigue. 00:03:42.550 --> 00:03:46.389 There you go. It's real. Eight and a half percent. 00:03:47.490 --> 00:03:50.990 No blurb on the bottle. We might find something 00:03:50.990 --> 00:03:55.669 on the site. Yeah, it's a very fun looking bottle. 00:03:55.949 --> 00:03:58.330 Don't know what color it is because you can't 00:03:58.330 --> 00:03:59.849 see through the bottle. We're about to find out. 00:03:59.870 --> 00:04:06.550 It's a white bottle. Yes. Nocturna. Delirium 00:04:06.550 --> 00:04:16.250 .be. Beer. Beer. Oh, it is. Not a color we're 00:04:16.250 --> 00:04:19.870 going to be disappointed in. Oh, okay. Okay. 00:04:21.470 --> 00:04:26.129 Strong dark ale. I'll take it. Strong. Strong. 00:04:26.670 --> 00:04:29.810 Strong. I don't know how to pronounce that word, 00:04:29.829 --> 00:04:33.790 though. Delirium nocturum. Come on. Come on. 00:04:33.810 --> 00:04:36.470 You can load the page. I believe in you. Not 00:04:36.470 --> 00:04:39.829 in this house. Come on, Windows. Okay, maybe 00:04:39.829 --> 00:04:43.620 that's the problem. My page is already loaded, 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:46.459 Chris. It's just spinny, spinny, spinny. Maybe 00:04:46.459 --> 00:04:50.360 it's not the internet that's the problem. It's 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:54.579 chrome. There it goes. Hey. Sure. Blame chrome. 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:59.839 Ooh, that is a nice color. Right? Ooh. The scent 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:02.920 says touches of caramel, mocha and chocolate, 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:07.939 spices such as licorice and coriander are also 00:05:07.939 --> 00:05:10.699 present. Okay, well. It's low on the IBU. It's 00:05:10.699 --> 00:05:14.860 a 24. So it's not going to be bitter. Well, we'll 00:05:14.860 --> 00:05:20.100 see. But it says, initially, a very good mouthfeel 00:05:20.100 --> 00:05:23.899 of alcohol and softness. This is followed by 00:05:23.899 --> 00:05:26.839 an increasing bitterness, partially from the 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:29.800 hop, but also from the roasted malt and chocolate 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:33.199 malt. Towards the end, a nice balance between 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:36.680 bitterness, sour, and sweet. So maybe the bitterness 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:38.800 that they're talking about is like dark chocolate 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:43.600 bitter? Probably. Okay. I can handle that. At 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.500 24, it's not going to be very bitter. No, no, 00:05:46.540 --> 00:05:50.180 no. It'll be low. We've had some that were way 00:05:50.180 --> 00:05:54.079 more bitter. Yep. All right. Way more. You got 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:56.560 to pop this top, man. It's corked and everything. 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:59.000 It is. I do like that. Kind of like the Chimay's. 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.839 Mm -hmm. Ooh, they have a delirium red. That 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:06.060 looks good. Sorry, I'm getting sidetracked by 00:06:06.060 --> 00:06:08.660 other products on their page. What's with the 00:06:08.660 --> 00:06:12.370 pink elephant? It's from being delirious, I guess. 00:06:13.490 --> 00:06:18.550 So this is like a Winnie the Pooh fever dream. 00:06:19.610 --> 00:06:22.730 We got heffalumps and woozles. Something like 00:06:22.730 --> 00:06:28.069 that. It's that or they're into other medicinal 00:06:28.069 --> 00:06:29.670 type products. I don't know what you're talking 00:06:29.670 --> 00:06:31.350 about. I've never heard of other medicinal type 00:06:31.350 --> 00:06:32.509 products that would do that to you. All right, 00:06:32.509 --> 00:06:34.149 you ready? Yeah. It's going to hit the ceiling. 00:06:34.329 --> 00:06:37.850 Oh, you caught it. Caught it. Nice. Well, there 00:06:37.850 --> 00:06:44.899 you go. Ooh. That smells good. Just keep rubbing 00:06:44.899 --> 00:06:46.879 it in. You take the first pour. Thanks, man. 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:49.459 It smells good. I like it. Oh, yeah. No, it smells 00:06:49.459 --> 00:06:55.899 great. I should probably. Don't mind me over 00:06:55.899 --> 00:07:01.560 here sniffing the cork. Cork sniffer. I'm not 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:03.360 going to repeat that SNL skit. I'm going to let 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:06.019 it go. I'm just going to give myself a little 00:07:06.019 --> 00:07:11.319 bit until you have. I forget how big these mugs 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.740 are. Yeah. They're massive. I just poured what 00:07:14.740 --> 00:07:17.319 would be a 16 -ounce can in here, and it's barely 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:23.399 out the bottom. Wow, that's a lot of head, Chris. 00:07:23.579 --> 00:07:30.079 It is. Let that kind of settle. It smells really 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:31.779 good, guys. Speaking of where I was going to 00:07:31.779 --> 00:07:33.360 go with this, and there's probably about one 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.970 person. If you know Fortinet, you'll get the 00:07:36.970 --> 00:07:40.189 joke. I'm sitting over here sniffing the cork 00:07:40.189 --> 00:07:45.149 like a one -armed sniffer. It's a real thing, 00:07:45.209 --> 00:07:48.990 I promise. It's a real thing. Look it up. That 00:07:48.990 --> 00:07:51.449 smells so good. This smells like apple juice. 00:07:51.689 --> 00:07:55.689 Hold on. I'm getting apple. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 00:07:55.750 --> 00:07:58.250 yeah. Well, they didn't indicate apple. They 00:07:58.250 --> 00:08:00.470 said licorice. They did say licorice. That's 00:08:00.470 --> 00:08:04.930 not apple. The smell. Is very apple juice. It 00:08:04.930 --> 00:08:10.310 is. Yeah. We're about to find out. Dark brown, 00:08:10.370 --> 00:08:15.029 red, compact, white, yellow, stable, and lacing 00:08:15.029 --> 00:08:16.529 head. Whatever that means. I don't know what 00:08:16.529 --> 00:08:19.170 that means. Are you about to be my favorite beer? 00:08:19.689 --> 00:08:21.110 Here's what we're going to find out. Cheers. 00:08:21.889 --> 00:08:38.669 All right, folks. okay initial like i see what 00:08:38.669 --> 00:08:42.309 they're talking about initial flavor palette 00:08:42.309 --> 00:08:47.110 is amazing to me um and then the bitterness does 00:08:47.110 --> 00:08:49.470 rise but it's not like it's not off -putting 00:08:49.470 --> 00:08:52.669 no it's not no no no but i would say like it 00:08:52.669 --> 00:08:56.009 is um i mean i've got apple juice stuck in my 00:08:56.009 --> 00:08:59.029 head right now but like that almost uh citrusy 00:08:59.029 --> 00:09:01.570 yeah kind of fruity um of what you would expect 00:09:01.570 --> 00:09:05.360 out of a lighter beer Not a lighter beer, but 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:08.159 a paler beer. Yeah. But it doesn't taste like 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:10.700 dish soap. No, it does not. And I'm not getting 00:09:10.700 --> 00:09:12.600 any chocolate. I'm not getting any chocolate. 00:09:14.179 --> 00:09:16.100 It's good, though. I do like it. It's really 00:09:16.100 --> 00:09:19.679 good. And I don't know that I get the sour. No, 00:09:19.779 --> 00:09:24.019 I think maybe I just need to drink more. Hold 00:09:24.019 --> 00:09:36.669 on. We need another bottle. Maybe I got a little 00:09:36.669 --> 00:09:40.850 sour on the end of that one. But it is like, 00:09:40.950 --> 00:09:46.210 I always think the term mouthfeel is oogie. It 00:09:46.210 --> 00:09:50.250 is. I see what they're saying. It's not like, 00:09:50.409 --> 00:09:57.809 you're not in a hurry to, oh my gosh, you can't 00:09:57.809 --> 00:10:00.629 say that out loud. This is a family show, man. 00:10:00.909 --> 00:10:06.590 Yeah, no. Yeah, it's pleasant. I'll put it that 00:10:06.590 --> 00:10:08.909 way. Yeah, I like it. There's nothing about this 00:10:08.909 --> 00:10:12.690 beer that I'm like, oh, that's not good. No, 00:10:12.690 --> 00:10:14.470 there is a little bit of bitter that just kind 00:10:14.470 --> 00:10:17.509 of lingers for a little bit, but it's not bad. 00:10:17.649 --> 00:10:19.070 It's not off -putting at all. I mean, I would 00:10:19.070 --> 00:10:24.409 say like this is, if you are the kind of man 00:10:24.409 --> 00:10:31.269 who despises being seen with a beer that's not. 00:10:32.110 --> 00:10:36.769 Of a darker shade. I resemble that. This would 00:10:36.769 --> 00:10:41.269 be a great lawnmower beer. Yeah, yeah, I could 00:10:41.269 --> 00:10:43.509 see that for the dark beer drinkers among us. 00:10:43.769 --> 00:10:50.629 Like, I don't feel like I would drink that and 00:10:50.629 --> 00:11:00.950 be, I don't know. Like I could drink that while 00:11:00.950 --> 00:11:04.190 I was running a marathon. If I ever ran. I'd 00:11:04.190 --> 00:11:08.590 pay to see that. If I ever ran for any reason, 00:11:08.669 --> 00:11:12.370 this would be a good beer to chase that with. 00:11:14.129 --> 00:11:18.330 Yes, I like it. I do. If I'm ever attacked by 00:11:18.330 --> 00:11:22.049 a bear and I have to run for my life. You want 00:11:22.049 --> 00:11:24.230 this. This is the beer that I want to follow 00:11:24.230 --> 00:11:27.049 that. Hey, Mr. Beer, I got something for you. 00:11:27.330 --> 00:11:30.820 Yeah. That's really nice. I've never heard of 00:11:30.820 --> 00:11:34.440 this. It was just a random find at a world market. 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:36.340 Okay. You never know what you're going to get. 00:11:36.419 --> 00:11:40.639 You really don't. And like this brewery that 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:42.899 I can't pronounce, that tells you something about 00:11:42.899 --> 00:11:44.600 it. I'm just going to have to get off their page. 00:11:44.820 --> 00:11:47.139 Uh -oh. Because now I found one that I want, 00:11:47.220 --> 00:11:49.580 but I know that I've never seen it there. It's 00:11:49.580 --> 00:11:55.860 the Delirium Black. It's 11 .5%. It is amber, 00:11:56.019 --> 00:11:58.779 as they call it, and oak bourbon barrels for 00:11:58.779 --> 00:12:03.740 nine months. They have my attention. Scent is 00:12:03.740 --> 00:12:08.779 vanilla, alcohol, and spicy. And then the flavor 00:12:08.779 --> 00:12:13.019 is caramel, bourbon, vanilla, and a hint of almond 00:12:13.019 --> 00:12:19.879 aftertaste. Tones of wood, smoothly bitter. It's 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:21.299 always funny to me whenever they're like, tones 00:12:21.299 --> 00:12:25.159 of wood. I don't know that wood is like the thing 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:26.919 that I'm like, man, I really want to be chewing 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:31.539 on a piece of pine here. Yes. But the bourbon 00:12:31.539 --> 00:12:34.480 barrel, they have my attention. And I'm a sucker 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:37.460 for that. So you were saying delirium red. Which 00:12:37.460 --> 00:12:41.220 one is the, oh, black. Delirium black. Yes. And 00:12:41.220 --> 00:12:44.320 it's a similar color. It really is. That's interesting. 00:12:44.539 --> 00:12:47.960 Amber, but it's in bourbon barrels for nine months. 00:12:48.500 --> 00:12:51.100 Yeah, we like the bourbon barrels. And I would. 00:12:51.450 --> 00:12:53.529 Well, what is this? That does look like a champagne 00:12:53.529 --> 00:12:58.529 bottle. Before I say anything. Delirium Christmas. 00:12:58.830 --> 00:13:00.669 That's what I'm looking at. I'm trying to determine 00:13:00.669 --> 00:13:08.289 what I like. Like it or not. I don't know. Fruits 00:13:08.289 --> 00:13:10.529 and spices. They're really into this lacing foam 00:13:10.529 --> 00:13:12.710 thing. They are. I don't really know what to 00:13:12.710 --> 00:13:19.159 do with that. The spices probably are like. Whatever 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:21.179 you call it. There's probably some flashback 00:13:21.179 --> 00:13:24.379 to Spices with that Thanksgiving show. Yeah, 00:13:24.379 --> 00:13:27.740 that was rough. That was pretty bad. I would 00:13:27.740 --> 00:13:31.100 be willing to give this one a try. Sure. There's 00:13:31.100 --> 00:13:32.820 not many beers we're not willing to give a try. 00:13:33.059 --> 00:13:36.100 Sure. The question is where can I find these 00:13:36.100 --> 00:13:40.940 other beers? That's a good question. I'm not 00:13:40.940 --> 00:13:42.759 in Europe. It's looking like you're going to 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:45.610 have to go to Europe. Well, it has an option 00:13:45.610 --> 00:13:48.370 for outside of the U .S., but... All right, well, 00:13:48.490 --> 00:13:53.429 let's take a trip. Yes, we are taking this show 00:13:53.429 --> 00:13:58.370 on the road, folks. Why not? Ooh, sour cherries. 00:13:58.370 --> 00:14:00.450 Discovery gift pack, and it comes with their 00:14:00.450 --> 00:14:06.250 own special glass. Ooh. 23 bucks. Guys, stop. 00:14:07.470 --> 00:14:09.330 The only thing I don't like about wearing Pearl 00:14:09.330 --> 00:14:14.049 Snap shirts, my beard keeps getting... Destroyed 00:14:14.049 --> 00:14:25.769 Biden. So in that one you get delirium tremens, 00:14:25.830 --> 00:14:29.889 whatever that is. That's their blonde. Delirium 00:14:29.889 --> 00:14:33.330 nocturum, which is what we have in tonight. Delirium 00:14:33.330 --> 00:14:39.559 red. And you get the delirium argentum. They've 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:43.379 been making beer since 1654. Yes, they've been 00:14:43.379 --> 00:14:48.100 around a long time. And it's family owned. That's 00:14:48.100 --> 00:14:53.279 pretty great. Here we go. Delirium Black. $27 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:57.399 for the bottle. Will you just ship it to me? 00:14:58.460 --> 00:15:03.639 They've got one called Paranoia. It's outside 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:06.679 of the Delirium family. And instead of a pink 00:15:06.679 --> 00:15:10.799 elephant, it's a... It looks like a polka dotted 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:18.100 hippo. Yeah. Maybe a whatever that thing is that 00:15:18.100 --> 00:15:23.120 everybody is in love with now. The little rodent. 00:15:25.820 --> 00:15:30.519 I don't know. What did you say it was called 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:36.519 again? Paranoia. Although I guess you're probably 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:40.850 on the actual. Yeah. Yeah, however you pronounce 00:15:40.850 --> 00:15:47.470 that. Nope, it's a hippo. A tasty family tradition. 00:15:50.409 --> 00:15:52.970 I'm reading German right now, so I don't know 00:15:52.970 --> 00:16:03.970 what I'm reading. I'm not seeing the one you 00:16:03.970 --> 00:16:11.169 were talking about. Are you at the... Hugo. Bro. 00:16:11.450 --> 00:16:19.389 Bro. Rich. Brassery. Heige. That one. Amno. Or 00:16:19.389 --> 00:16:23.950 Anno. If you go down to the Onze beer and. Our 00:16:23.950 --> 00:16:32.169 beers. On the. You got to scroll. Okay. And what 00:16:32.169 --> 00:16:35.929 was it called again? Paranoia. There it is. Paranoia. 00:16:35.950 --> 00:16:39.980 They have one called La Guillotine. Yeah. Very 00:16:39.980 --> 00:16:43.480 French. Yeah. There's also one that's like, it 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:46.779 looks like a cherry drink. Oh, the fruity? Yeah. 00:16:47.500 --> 00:16:50.820 Yeah. Some of these are getting a little too 00:16:50.820 --> 00:16:55.139 light in the britches for me. Well, it's European. 00:16:55.539 --> 00:16:58.139 So, you know. You know what those Europeans are. 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:01.399 Not all of Europe. They're not Baltic, then they're 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:05.670 probably not drinking them. Yeah, I guess. Darker 00:17:05.670 --> 00:17:09.029 beer. That one is very fruity. The Floris? Man, 00:17:10.569 --> 00:17:12.049 I wish these guys were a sponsor. We're sure 00:17:12.049 --> 00:17:15.410 giving them a lot of air time. We sure are. We're 00:17:15.410 --> 00:17:17.829 going about this the wrong way. They're not listening. 00:17:18.450 --> 00:17:20.769 No, they don't even know we exist. Hoping for 00:17:20.769 --> 00:17:25.269 a German podcast to pick them up. But it is a 00:17:25.269 --> 00:17:27.690 tasty beer. I highly recommend. Yeah, I don't 00:17:27.690 --> 00:17:34.950 know that we're... Yeah. It may not be my favorite, 00:17:35.009 --> 00:17:38.450 but it's really good. It is. Last night, kind 00:17:38.450 --> 00:17:41.690 of shifting the gears on the alcohol, Garrett 00:17:41.690 --> 00:17:45.150 and I had our first sake. Okay. Never had it 00:17:45.150 --> 00:17:47.690 before. Didn't know what to expect. It was a 00:17:47.690 --> 00:17:52.210 Ginjo. Okay. I don't remember the brand, but 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:56.789 again, World Market. I'm still confused on if 00:17:56.789 --> 00:18:01.289 I like it or not. Rice wine? Basically. You take 00:18:01.289 --> 00:18:04.490 a drink. Did you drink it hot? No, I had it cold. 00:18:04.710 --> 00:18:07.549 Okay, sake's supposed to be hot. This said chilled. 00:18:08.049 --> 00:18:12.450 Interesting. So we chilled it. Okay. We have 00:18:12.450 --> 00:18:15.230 two more bottles, so we could try one. Well, 00:18:15.289 --> 00:18:17.009 I mean, if it says chilled, then it should be 00:18:17.009 --> 00:18:22.130 chilled. The lady who gave me the sake that I 00:18:22.130 --> 00:18:24.869 drank, it was hot. It was like tea temperature. 00:18:25.869 --> 00:18:28.609 There are some that do specifically say it needs 00:18:28.609 --> 00:18:30.910 to be room temperature at least. I mean, this 00:18:30.910 --> 00:18:33.319 was hot. Oh, I don't know about if I could do 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:37.140 it hot. Mouthfeel, if you use your favorite term, 00:18:37.259 --> 00:18:42.960 it was like thick water is almost how I would 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:48.319 describe it. The way that it felt. It tasted 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:53.380 and drank like vodka, but the smoothest vodka 00:18:53.380 --> 00:18:56.099 you could ever imagine in your life. It is very 00:18:56.099 --> 00:18:59.579 smooth. I don't know that I got the vodka feel. 00:19:00.089 --> 00:19:01.789 That's the one that I drink. That's what it, 00:19:01.809 --> 00:19:03.710 that's just kind of what it reminded me of. It's 00:19:03.710 --> 00:19:06.529 kind of vodka. Like opening up at the back. Like 00:19:06.529 --> 00:19:09.950 you're. Yes. Yes. But you don't get that heavy 00:19:09.950 --> 00:19:12.869 alcohol. But again, there's a difference between 00:19:12.869 --> 00:19:16.869 the alcoholic content of vodka and a 14%. In 00:19:16.869 --> 00:19:20.750 vodka, usually, um, potato. I think so. Yes. 00:19:20.829 --> 00:19:25.450 Yeah. Sake is, uh, rice. Yes. Um, and it's, uh, 00:19:25.710 --> 00:19:29.880 I was surprised at how much I liked it. I would 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:31.980 be willing to try it again. I'd like to try something, 00:19:32.019 --> 00:19:33.960 a different one, because I know there's like 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:38.299 three or four variations to sake. So I would 00:19:38.299 --> 00:19:40.420 be willing to try it again. I don't think I could 00:19:40.420 --> 00:19:44.019 do like truly like warm, warm. Yeah, it was. 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:46.319 That would be a little disturbing. Looking on 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:50.619 here, it's like gently heated to 104 to 130. 00:19:51.819 --> 00:19:56.099 So maybe not as hot as. I don't actually know 00:19:56.099 --> 00:19:59.000 what tea is. I don't drink tea. But it's pretty 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:07.180 hot. And I would say like I did not expect to 00:20:07.180 --> 00:20:13.880 like it. Okay. But I was eating gyoza and sushi 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:18.619 with it. Okay. And so it wasn't like those things 00:20:18.619 --> 00:20:21.799 weren't. I mean the gyoza I guess was warm. But 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:25.920 like the sushi is not like it's cool. And so 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:28.400 something about the differentiation between those 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:33.839 two things didn't mess with me. I don't usually 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:35.859 drink hot drinks. I don't drink tea. I don't 00:20:35.859 --> 00:20:38.640 drink hot coffee. I don't like none of that. 00:20:39.420 --> 00:20:43.240 Beer, Dr. Pepper. Even if I'm drinking scotch, 00:20:43.339 --> 00:20:47.440 it's usually got an ice cube in it. It's just 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:49.920 the way that I'm wired. Give me the search results, 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:58.799 people. off -putting than I was expecting it 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:02.759 to be. And I didn't really ever trust after that 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:05.359 because this lady knew what she was doing. That's 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:10.880 all I'm going to say. I didn't really trust anybody 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:15.619 else to prepare that. I'm on their site, but 00:21:15.619 --> 00:21:22.029 I don't see the specific bottle that I got. Yeah, 00:21:22.130 --> 00:21:24.289 I would be willing to try it again. Like there's 00:21:24.289 --> 00:21:35.869 a Nagori. There is a... There's the Junmai. Junmai 00:21:35.869 --> 00:21:38.769 is supposed to be heated or is good to heat. 00:21:40.630 --> 00:21:45.049 Honjozo. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I just, this is 00:21:45.049 --> 00:21:47.970 not... It's an American speaking Japanese. I'm 00:21:47.970 --> 00:21:57.089 really sorry. Yamaha Kimoto. Yeah, okay, I found 00:21:57.089 --> 00:22:02.430 it. What we had is the Hakatsuru Draft Sake. 00:22:03.769 --> 00:22:11.009 Nice. And again, it was not bad. I'm still uncertain 00:22:11.009 --> 00:22:17.490 on my feelings about it, but it wasn't bad. I 00:22:17.490 --> 00:22:21.740 like the Delirium much better. I will say that. 00:22:25.339 --> 00:22:29.119 Well, sure. Sorry, I was reading about the heating 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.279 of it, and it really does need to be around like 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:36.259 104. If it's like hot, hot, then it's like 122. 00:22:37.460 --> 00:22:41.960 If you overheat it, then the heat will cause 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:44.259 the alcohol to evaporate, and then it will just 00:22:44.259 --> 00:22:50.250 taste like acid. Oh, fun. Yeah, I don't know 00:22:50.250 --> 00:22:53.650 that I could do it hot like that or warm. I know 00:22:53.650 --> 00:22:58.390 in Germany, warm beer is a thing too, but I'm 00:22:58.390 --> 00:23:02.109 just kind of like, I've tried. I just can't. 00:23:02.190 --> 00:23:07.190 Yeah. Again, like when I drank sake, it was almost 00:23:07.190 --> 00:23:11.529 like a shot glass. Yeah. And you just kind of, 00:23:11.569 --> 00:23:13.750 I just kind of sipped on it. I didn't take it. 00:23:13.750 --> 00:23:15.950 It's like a shot of hot liquid. That seems like 00:23:15.950 --> 00:23:21.789 a bad idea. I don't know my. metric to american 00:23:21.789 --> 00:23:26.890 but uh this bottle is 180 milliliters it's a 00:23:26.890 --> 00:23:31.269 small imperial it's a small bottle but we split 00:23:31.269 --> 00:23:33.049 it it wasn't bad you've seen those things where 00:23:33.049 --> 00:23:40.549 it's like um you know it's not as um i feel like 00:23:40.549 --> 00:23:43.869 it's worse than that anyway whenever uh you've 00:23:43.869 --> 00:23:47.799 got the you're buying a cooler or something like 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:49.440 that, and it tries to tell you how many cans 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:53.440 will fit in it. Yes. Yeti does this thing where 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:56.819 they'll tell you how many cans will fit in, how 00:23:56.819 --> 00:23:59.480 many golf balls will fit in. They tell you all 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:00.579 these different things. But it was something 00:24:00.579 --> 00:24:05.480 like that. It wasn't Yeti. But it was Americans 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:08.000 will use anything other than the metric system. 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:12.779 Yes. Just saying. Anything to avoid the metric. 00:24:12.779 --> 00:24:16.289 Not appropriate. Uh -oh. It was pretty funny, 00:24:16.329 --> 00:24:19.869 though. That's a good beer. I like that beer. 00:24:19.970 --> 00:24:23.369 Way to go, Chris. I recommend. Well done. You 00:24:23.369 --> 00:24:28.470 want what's left in the bottle? That may depend 00:24:28.470 --> 00:24:30.890 on the second beer. Okay. Well, would you like 00:24:30.890 --> 00:24:32.990 to see the second beer? I mean, sure. Because 00:24:32.990 --> 00:24:36.049 there's not a whole lot left in the bottle. Oh, 00:24:36.089 --> 00:24:38.109 let me pull this out and then one more drinking 00:24:38.109 --> 00:24:42.809 story. Okay. This will be fun. It was a surprise. 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:53.619 I bought what I thought was a steel on a Johnny 00:24:53.619 --> 00:24:58.559 Walker green. Ended up being Johnny Walker black 00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:03.819 with a green label on it. They were doing some 00:25:03.819 --> 00:25:08.799 Squid Game special. Okay. And I don't know anything 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.759 about Squid Game. I've heard of it. I know that. 00:25:13.269 --> 00:25:16.390 most of the like stuff that they do for that 00:25:16.390 --> 00:25:20.410 is like pink but for some reason this had the 00:25:20.410 --> 00:25:24.470 pink squid game logo at the top where i didn't 00:25:24.470 --> 00:25:28.250 notice it and the rest of the label was green 00:25:28.250 --> 00:25:32.529 and i thought it was anyway i just got confused 00:25:32.529 --> 00:25:35.150 by it got it home and it's actually i mean you 00:25:35.150 --> 00:25:37.309 know it's tiny walker black it's not it's good 00:25:37.309 --> 00:25:41.890 bad it's just not what i was expecting sure go 00:25:41.890 --> 00:25:46.230 ahead Okay, so we've had one from this company 00:25:46.230 --> 00:25:50.950 before. This is Kentucky Bourbon Barrel. Yeah. 00:25:52.430 --> 00:25:55.289 But hadn't seen this one before. Okay. And again, 00:25:55.369 --> 00:25:59.569 this is a world market find. Yeah. I'm telling 00:25:59.569 --> 00:26:01.950 you, if you haven't been to world market, you 00:26:01.950 --> 00:26:04.890 gotta go. Evidently. You won't believe what you'll 00:26:04.890 --> 00:26:11.559 find. So this is the Coco Porter. Okay. But it 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:16.160 is bourbon barrel aged. There's a horse on that. 00:26:16.420 --> 00:26:20.680 Yeah. It's the Kentucky. So we had just their 00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:26.339 regular bourbon barrel stout before, and that 00:26:26.339 --> 00:26:29.460 was 11%. This is eight. Yeah, this is eight. 00:26:29.500 --> 00:26:33.640 This is the porter. But again, it's aged in bourbon 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:38.940 barrels. Lexington Brewing and Distilling Company. 00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:45.859 Yes. I'm going to cough again. Okay. So the bonus 00:26:45.859 --> 00:26:51.720 drinking story. Go for it. I had got in some 00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:54.880 of that beer from Jason and invited my brother 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:59.519 to come try it. Okay. And I was shocked, but 00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:02.720 he actually showed up. And so opened it up. He 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.589 took one taste of it and he was like. I can't 00:27:05.589 --> 00:27:08.130 drink that. It's too dark. Oh, I'm like, dude, 00:27:08.269 --> 00:27:11.630 what do you know? And he's like, I can't drink 00:27:11.630 --> 00:27:13.890 that. I'm like, well, what do you want? And he 00:27:13.890 --> 00:27:17.049 goes, you know, I drink light beer and I'm, well, 00:27:17.130 --> 00:27:19.769 no, I shouldn't say light, but the pale beer. 00:27:19.950 --> 00:27:21.509 And I'm like, well, actually I probably got something 00:27:21.509 --> 00:27:24.670 you might like. And so I brought out the, um, 00:27:24.730 --> 00:27:28.630 Chimay white and poured that for him. And he 00:27:28.630 --> 00:27:31.930 was like, that looks good. I'm like, give it 00:27:31.930 --> 00:27:34.289 a try. And he took a drink of it, and he was 00:27:34.289 --> 00:27:36.849 just kind of like, that's good. And I'm like, 00:27:36.890 --> 00:27:40.589 yes, it's made by monks. It's blessed by the 00:27:40.589 --> 00:27:43.670 holy man. Yes, it is. So I got to explain to 00:27:43.670 --> 00:27:48.170 him what that type of beer is. You buy the beer, 00:27:48.230 --> 00:27:50.549 you get the good stuff, they get the money, they 00:27:50.549 --> 00:27:52.190 get to keep making beer, and they get to help 00:27:52.190 --> 00:27:53.789 people. It's a win all around for everybody. 00:27:53.990 --> 00:27:55.769 Right, yeah, absolutely. But before the night 00:27:55.769 --> 00:27:59.470 was over, he took a picture of the label. Which 00:27:59.470 --> 00:28:01.410 to me says he's going to go look for more. That's 00:28:01.410 --> 00:28:03.869 right. So yeah, that was interesting that he 00:28:03.869 --> 00:28:07.230 came over. Garrett happened to be home. Nice. 00:28:07.250 --> 00:28:11.289 So we just kind of sat there and had a beer for 00:28:11.289 --> 00:28:14.549 an hour or so. Not too shabby. Just kind of chat. 00:28:15.230 --> 00:28:19.769 So there's your bonus beer story. I like it. 00:28:19.890 --> 00:28:22.089 All right. Now I'm going to do my palate cleanser 00:28:22.089 --> 00:28:25.809 before I go into that other bottle. I mean, it's 00:28:25.809 --> 00:28:30.960 a very different taste. that we're about to experience 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.900 here. Oh yeah. To go from a Belgian ale to a, 00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:41.359 a cocoa porter. What are we even do crazy people 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:54.619 now to see if I brought my bottle opener. Got 00:28:54.619 --> 00:28:59.289 it. Got it. Nailed it. If not, we got one in 00:28:59.289 --> 00:29:02.150 there. That's true. That's true. Pull that out 00:29:02.150 --> 00:29:05.569 again. I have mine stuck to my Traeger in the 00:29:05.569 --> 00:29:08.450 backyard. Yeah, I'm starting to think that I 00:29:08.450 --> 00:29:13.210 just need to take that home. Okay. But I really 00:29:13.210 --> 00:29:15.670 want to keep it up here. Anyway. All right, I'm 00:29:15.670 --> 00:29:17.769 going in for number two. I know you're still 00:29:17.769 --> 00:29:20.410 finishing. Well, yeah. When you said there was 00:29:20.410 --> 00:29:22.390 a little bit in there, I was like, ah, there 00:29:22.390 --> 00:29:24.710 was more than you said. That's like a second 00:29:24.710 --> 00:29:28.430 beer. Yeah, it's all right. It's going to be 00:29:28.430 --> 00:29:37.009 great. Well done. All right. What does it smell 00:29:37.009 --> 00:29:44.710 like? Oh. There's some serious cocoa there. Yeah? 00:29:45.069 --> 00:29:52.569 Yeah. This is straight chocolate. There's some 00:29:52.569 --> 00:29:58.680 serious cocoa there. Wow. Yeah. That's chocolate 00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:07.000 milk. I'm liking that. Now it all comes down 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.859 to what does it taste? I mean, it tastes like 00:30:10.859 --> 00:30:14.420 chocolate milk. Do they have any kind of blur 00:30:14.420 --> 00:30:20.519 before I drop that down? Give them their due 00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:28.000 before I start chugging. Joe Coco Porter. Lexington 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:35.559 Brewing. Yes, I'm over 21. I guess I've got a 00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:38.960 little bit, not a whole lot. Our Kentucky Bourbon 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:42.539 Barrel Coco Porter is brewed with cocoa nibs 00:30:42.539 --> 00:30:46.200 at 100 % barrel age. Did you say nibs? Nibs. 00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:49.259 Yes, that's what it says. Coco nibs. Okay. Not 00:30:49.259 --> 00:30:50.720 the other thing you may have thought you heard. 00:30:50.859 --> 00:30:58.240 Nope. It's a B. Not a P. Whatever you say. Yes. 00:30:58.940 --> 00:31:02.519 100 % barrel aged, create a rich, full -bodied 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:06.259 porter, layered with bittersweet chocolate, roasted 00:31:06.259 --> 00:31:09.539 malt, oak, and vanilla, all rounded out by a 00:31:09.539 --> 00:31:13.420 sweet toffee finish. I'll be the judge of that. 00:31:14.180 --> 00:31:19.779 Oh, it's a seasonal release. Well, okay. Hope 00:31:19.779 --> 00:31:26.089 I don't like it too much. So their tasting notes, 00:31:26.269 --> 00:31:30.710 yeah, is roasted malt, sweet toffee, cacao as 00:31:30.710 --> 00:31:34.089 they're spelling it here. Cacao. And oak. Cacao. 00:31:34.549 --> 00:31:38.869 Cacao. Cacao. Oh, they have a maple barrel stove. 00:31:39.190 --> 00:31:43.009 Sorry, fans. We're just kidding. We're children. 00:31:43.289 --> 00:31:45.430 Okay. I saw this one, but I couldn't bring myself 00:31:45.430 --> 00:31:48.250 to buy it. Okay. Because I'm not a fan of cherry. 00:31:48.710 --> 00:31:52.549 No. It's a bourbon barrel tart cherry. Okay. 00:31:52.589 --> 00:31:57.490 Wheat. And I'm like, no, I'm just not a big fan 00:31:57.490 --> 00:32:03.609 of cherry. And bourbon barrel aged with a wheat 00:32:03.609 --> 00:32:08.930 beer is a weird combination. Yes. Now, I would 00:32:08.930 --> 00:32:12.109 try the ale. We haven't had the ale. It's a bourbon 00:32:12.109 --> 00:32:19.329 barrel ale. And then they have got, I would be 00:32:19.329 --> 00:32:21.750 willing to try this, a bourbon barrel toasted 00:32:21.750 --> 00:32:31.079 stout. Toasted. Yeah, so... Frosty. This stout 00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.359 has a midnight black appearance with a cappuccino 00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.160 -like head. The palate is full -flavored with 00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.859 notes of toasted oak, coffee, vanilla, caramel, 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.740 toasted marshmallow, and roasted malts, creating 00:32:43.740 --> 00:32:46.660 a rich yet balanced drinking experience. I'd 00:32:46.660 --> 00:32:48.779 be willing to give that one a try. That's weird 00:32:48.779 --> 00:32:52.779 to have a cappuccino -like head. That's what 00:32:52.779 --> 00:32:56.559 it says. Like thicker? I'm just reading what 00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:59.180 they said. Like, it's going to stick to my beard? 00:33:01.579 --> 00:33:05.319 Meanwhile, I called you a redhead today to my 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:08.599 boss, and he was like, what? Me a redhead? Yeah. 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:13.279 No. I mean, there's strawberry in there. Where? 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:22.039 Chris. Not anymore. Where's the strawberry? It's 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.440 gone now. There was never strawberry in this 00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:27.980 hair. Okay. Darker blonde, yeah. Maybe it's because 00:33:27.980 --> 00:33:31.200 your face is so red. That's from all the beer. 00:33:32.420 --> 00:33:38.500 Sure. So, okay. Well, bottoms up on this Coca 00:33:38.500 --> 00:33:40.680 -Cola. Yeah, I'm interested to see what you think 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:50.609 because I'm still drinking my other beer. Please 00:33:50.609 --> 00:33:54.210 stop making that face. Well, you know, just trying 00:33:54.210 --> 00:33:58.230 to. Mouth feel it. Okay, I'm getting the vanilla. 00:34:00.690 --> 00:34:06.269 If I could get an image for mouth feel. Cocoa. 00:34:06.450 --> 00:34:09.469 That's what that was. Well, I was literally swishing. 00:34:09.469 --> 00:34:11.769 You were feeling it with your mouth. I was literally 00:34:11.769 --> 00:34:14.489 swishing it in my mouth. Okay. I know, like people 00:34:14.489 --> 00:34:18.429 do with wine. Yeah. The vanilla is really, is 00:34:18.429 --> 00:34:24.579 there. The cocoa is there. Mm -hmm. A hint of 00:34:24.579 --> 00:34:29.619 bitter, nothing too bad. I'm not catching any 00:34:29.619 --> 00:34:35.800 bourbon just yet, but it's not bad. It's not 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:49.139 bad. Mm -hmm. The good news is I've got two more 00:34:49.139 --> 00:34:53.000 of these at home. To really feel it out? Yeah, 00:34:53.059 --> 00:34:54.760 to really feel it out and go, yeah, I think I 00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.340 like that beer after all. I think you'll like 00:34:57.340 --> 00:35:00.039 this one. I think you will. Let me get through 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:01.639 this real quick. Not that I'm trying to rush 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.500 you through the delirium. I mean, I don't want 00:35:03.500 --> 00:35:06.380 you to become delirious. Last thing we need is 00:35:06.380 --> 00:35:10.440 both of us to be delirious on the show. But I 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:12.239 would say this is probably one of our longest 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.619 beer segments we've ever had. We say that a lot. 00:35:16.369 --> 00:35:18.670 Well, no, because most of this is 35. Yeah. But 00:35:18.670 --> 00:35:20.329 most of the time, you know, like we'll drink 00:35:20.329 --> 00:35:21.610 a beer. That's good. That's good. All right. 00:35:21.670 --> 00:35:23.769 We want to talk about that. Yeah. Where this 00:35:23.769 --> 00:35:25.789 is just like, no, there's been a lot of extended 00:35:25.789 --> 00:35:28.329 beer talk here. All right. Well, I'll throw out 00:35:28.329 --> 00:35:32.349 a subject for you. Okay. See how you feel about 00:35:32.349 --> 00:35:42.070 it. So we had a, it was just, it was just another 00:35:42.070 --> 00:35:54.750 spoofing. But it came to. It's like it's so we 00:35:54.750 --> 00:35:58.849 get a lot of different types of fraud email. 00:36:00.269 --> 00:36:03.309 Send me the gift cards. Yeah. Things like that 00:36:03.309 --> 00:36:06.610 to all of our staff and some people that aren't 00:36:06.610 --> 00:36:10.469 on staff. But they obviously they're using web 00:36:10.469 --> 00:36:15.010 crawlers. Yes. To get these email addresses and 00:36:15.010 --> 00:36:17.690 see that they're connected to each other. try 00:36:17.690 --> 00:36:20.030 to communicate between people that aren't communicating. 00:36:20.190 --> 00:36:26.650 I get it. Like not that sophisticated. It's funny 00:36:26.650 --> 00:36:32.510 when people mess up and respond to me, but this 00:36:32.510 --> 00:36:34.829 is one of the things with when you're in it is 00:36:34.829 --> 00:36:38.550 you've got to help people to kind of pull their 00:36:38.550 --> 00:36:41.550 head out of the sand and figure out that like, 00:36:41.650 --> 00:36:48.809 Oh, the world is not quite as, um, as you are 00:36:48.809 --> 00:36:52.829 thinking that it is. You need to at least be 00:36:52.829 --> 00:37:01.369 running through some filters in your brain of 00:37:01.369 --> 00:37:04.630 does this feel right? Does this seem like what 00:37:04.630 --> 00:37:07.309 this person, are they talking like the person 00:37:07.309 --> 00:37:10.210 who I'm expecting to be talking to? Correct. 00:37:10.429 --> 00:37:12.289 And just things like that that I feel like most 00:37:12.289 --> 00:37:15.780 of us are doing anyway. Sometimes you've got 00:37:15.780 --> 00:37:18.699 people on your staff that are not at all thinking 00:37:18.699 --> 00:37:28.199 through that. Fair. If you're in an actual IT 00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:34.079 security prevention, like fraud prevention, whatever, 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:38.599 that's your job. Kudos to you. We're talking 00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:42.280 about the very lowest bar on this. There's no 00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:47.889 real. It feels like for a lot of what we're going 00:37:47.889 --> 00:37:51.690 to be up against here where I'm talking about. 00:37:51.750 --> 00:37:56.329 But we did get a spoofing email the other day 00:37:56.329 --> 00:37:59.329 that was a little more sophisticated. And it's 00:37:59.329 --> 00:38:06.150 amazing because they always send the just this 00:38:06.150 --> 00:38:10.610 much harder to spot to our business administrator. 00:38:11.010 --> 00:38:15.110 Okay. You put business administrator. especially 00:38:15.110 --> 00:38:20.889 on a church website, it's like, I feel like it's 00:38:20.889 --> 00:38:25.050 got to be catnip to these people because they're 00:38:25.050 --> 00:38:27.630 like, it's a church, it's a soft target. They've 00:38:27.630 --> 00:38:30.250 got the money. And these are the people that 00:38:30.250 --> 00:38:34.750 are going to have access to money situations. 00:38:34.869 --> 00:38:39.469 So we get a lot of, we had to change a policy 00:38:39.469 --> 00:38:42.449 because of this where we're not actually allowed 00:38:42.449 --> 00:38:49.369 to. change things on our direct deposit or anything 00:38:49.369 --> 00:38:51.630 like that that has to do with where our checks 00:38:51.630 --> 00:38:53.929 are being sent. We're not allowed to do that 00:38:53.929 --> 00:38:57.269 online. That has to be a physical contact moment 00:38:57.269 --> 00:39:05.349 because we had one that looked real real. This 00:39:05.349 --> 00:39:10.789 latest one was sending an invoice and the person 00:39:10.789 --> 00:39:14.730 that they um spoofed the email that they spoofed 00:39:14.730 --> 00:39:18.809 um they actually like they got it not got it 00:39:18.809 --> 00:39:24.250 they they engineered it to send so the the from 00:39:24.250 --> 00:39:27.989 is the actual email it's not like his name and 00:39:27.989 --> 00:39:33.050 then or their name and the um you know if you 00:39:33.050 --> 00:39:34.570 actually look at it there's a different email 00:39:34.570 --> 00:39:38.170 there which is what all the ones for the gift 00:39:38.170 --> 00:39:42.440 cards are This was actually that email, but there 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:47.260 was a reply to that was the giveaway for me. 00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.199 I'm like, oh, there's a reply to, and that reply 00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:56.880 to is not. Yeah. Yeah, these don't go together. 00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:03.940 These don't go together. So catching it was actually 00:40:03.940 --> 00:40:05.960 not that big of a deal because, again, we have. 00:40:08.329 --> 00:40:10.849 They have policies in place that meant that as 00:40:10.849 --> 00:40:13.610 soon as our business administrator got the email, 00:40:13.710 --> 00:40:16.110 then she sent it to the person who was supposed 00:40:16.110 --> 00:40:26.610 to sign for that type of expenditure. And he 00:40:26.610 --> 00:40:29.030 was like, no, we haven't spent this. We don't 00:40:29.030 --> 00:40:31.130 know this vendor. We haven't spent this money. 00:40:31.369 --> 00:40:36.619 This isn't real. And I don't know if they sent 00:40:36.619 --> 00:40:41.380 it to me then or before then. But, you know, 00:40:41.380 --> 00:40:52.980 trying to explain to our staff like this. That 00:40:52.980 --> 00:40:56.960 an email, like explaining that an email can appear 00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:59.679 to come from someone. But if you look at the 00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:03.440 email address, it's not actually from them. That's 00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:06.989 pretty easy to do. But explaining like, hey, 00:41:07.010 --> 00:41:09.130 it looks like it came from this email and only 00:41:09.130 --> 00:41:11.469 the reply to is different, that's a little bit 00:41:11.469 --> 00:41:14.630 harder to explain to everybody in a way that 00:41:14.630 --> 00:41:19.050 doesn't make them freak out about, you know, 00:41:19.070 --> 00:41:21.690 they've got my password and stuff like that. 00:41:21.769 --> 00:41:23.570 It's not actually necessary to get your password 00:41:23.570 --> 00:41:26.449 in order to make that look like it's the right 00:41:26.449 --> 00:41:29.230 thing. I'm never going to tell anybody on our 00:41:29.230 --> 00:41:31.449 staff, like, don't change your password. I'll 00:41:31.449 --> 00:41:34.230 be like, no, change your password because I know 00:41:34.230 --> 00:41:38.679 you're using, a bad password. Yeah. So get one 00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:45.860 password, change your password. Like, I don't, 00:41:45.860 --> 00:41:47.960 I don't know. Like, I don't, I don't, that's 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.179 not a thing, but it was interesting because this 00:41:51.179 --> 00:41:55.340 person, um, who's very well intentioned and, 00:41:55.420 --> 00:41:59.920 um, I would spend however many hours of my work 00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:03.760 day week. Um, trying to help them feel more secure. 00:42:03.820 --> 00:42:06.360 They were concerned because they had opened the 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:11.079 attachment. So that sent me on a deep dive to 00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:16.579 be able to look through like, okay, like if somebody 00:42:16.579 --> 00:42:26.000 sends an attachment and you're, how do I make 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.099 sure that this person feels okay? Yeah. Well, 00:42:29.179 --> 00:42:31.440 you said the AI buzzword, you said deep dive. 00:42:31.619 --> 00:42:34.969 Yep. You got to get away from the AI. It's sinking 00:42:34.969 --> 00:42:37.889 into you. That absolutely is not what happened. 00:42:39.849 --> 00:42:44.090 Yeah, that's tough. I mean, the first question 00:42:44.090 --> 00:42:48.829 is, were you in an existing communication with 00:42:48.829 --> 00:42:50.989 this person and they send an attachment? If this 00:42:50.989 --> 00:42:53.690 came out of the blue, were you expecting it? 00:42:54.090 --> 00:42:57.070 And if you weren't expecting it, my first recommendation 00:42:57.070 --> 00:43:01.750 is to go to that individual and say, did you 00:43:01.750 --> 00:43:05.300 send this? Yeah, we'd be replying to every email 00:43:05.300 --> 00:43:09.199 that's sent to us if we asked for... The number 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.699 of times that it's like somebody sending me an 00:43:12.699 --> 00:43:17.639 attachment is absurd. See, that's going to be 00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:21.980 tough because... It's not all... Like, I need 00:43:21.980 --> 00:43:23.940 a solution that is starting to look for this 00:43:23.940 --> 00:43:31.380 without me having to have super spidey sense. 00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:34.920 Now, I will say this person's spidey sense was 00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:39.380 right on. They handled it very well. Okay. But 00:43:39.380 --> 00:43:44.800 they did look at the attachment. I mean, there 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.639 are certain attachments that you would say, hey, 00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:49.320 if it's this, just don't do it. Yeah. If it's 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:54.659 an EXE, just don't. Yeah. PDF. Yeah. In PDF, 00:43:54.940 --> 00:43:56.559 you got to be careful because there's still some 00:43:56.559 --> 00:44:01.090 stuff that can happen there. Right. That's why 00:44:01.090 --> 00:44:07.510 I started running through. And I feel like we've 00:44:07.510 --> 00:44:13.550 got spam detection turned up pretty high. Yeah. 00:44:13.650 --> 00:44:15.789 And I'm concerned if we turned it up any higher, 00:44:15.909 --> 00:44:20.269 we would start to impact legitimate email. Sure. 00:44:21.530 --> 00:44:25.489 The fact that you're getting that kind of a volume, 00:44:25.530 --> 00:44:31.590 though, is tough. We did get... Blocked by one 00:44:31.590 --> 00:44:39.269 of our members' emails because of our DMARC, 00:44:39.389 --> 00:44:44.150 which I thought was funny. You got blocked because 00:44:44.150 --> 00:44:50.150 you have a DMARC? Because we're, I don't know, 00:44:50.190 --> 00:44:56.469 because we're asking for, what do you call it? 00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:59.059 Because you're asking for things to be safe and 00:44:59.059 --> 00:45:02.280 secure, we're not going to talk to you? Yeah. 00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:08.539 Wow. Yeah, I was like, I don't know that. Why 00:45:08.539 --> 00:45:10.400 don't you call? Because I got asked about this 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:12.719 one. I was like, it says that I'm blocked. This 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:16.059 email tried to go through and it couldn't because 00:45:16.059 --> 00:45:19.539 of, let me see if I can even find it. But it 00:45:19.539 --> 00:45:22.440 was basically, it had DMARC on it. And I was 00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:26.570 like, uh. Yeah, DMARC is a good thing. Never 00:45:26.570 --> 00:45:29.130 seen that before, but also this person's email 00:45:29.130 --> 00:45:34.969 address was not like a... It wasn't Gmail. It 00:45:34.969 --> 00:45:39.590 wasn't Hotmail. AOL? It wasn't AOL. Proton? I'm 00:45:39.590 --> 00:45:41.630 saying none of the things that you're going to 00:45:41.630 --> 00:45:50.530 say right now. It was weird. Outlook? None of 00:45:50.530 --> 00:45:52.670 the things that you're going to say right now. 00:45:52.989 --> 00:45:56.579 Okay. Let me find this thing real quick. Is it 00:45:56.579 --> 00:46:05.300 a self -hosted? Maybe. It's a government. Anyway. 00:46:05.659 --> 00:46:07.920 You know the government is. Yeah, they're terrible. 00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:10.960 Don't get me started on that. But there are some 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:13.440 good people that work for the government. Not 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:15.920 very many left. I'm just saying. I've got some 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:19.360 friends that are running for offices and they're 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.389 good people. Yeah, I mean, honestly, if you've 00:46:22.389 --> 00:46:24.789 got that much of a volume, that's going to be 00:46:24.789 --> 00:46:28.449 tough. The only thing that you can do to try 00:46:28.449 --> 00:46:33.750 to help Google is to market as spam. And then 00:46:33.750 --> 00:46:38.869 if you're willing to take the time to find the 00:46:38.869 --> 00:46:43.269 domains that those replies are to, you can expressly 00:46:43.269 --> 00:46:48.449 block that domain in the future. But again, it 00:46:48.449 --> 00:46:51.539 comes down to how much. legwork do you want to 00:46:51.539 --> 00:46:57.320 do? Trying to educate your people on what attachment 00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:02.000 is safe and what attachment is not. There's only 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:05.340 so many times where you can say, if you see this 00:47:05.340 --> 00:47:09.059 file type, don't do it. A PDF is a legitimate 00:47:09.059 --> 00:47:13.360 file type. It doesn't mean it can't be weaponized. 00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:17.460 It certainly could be. Especially if you open 00:47:17.460 --> 00:47:22.920 it up and then there's a A link to click on inside 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:38.179 of the PDF that redirects you. I'm surprised 00:47:38.179 --> 00:47:50.159 that we don't have more of that. But maybe there's 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.199 just the nature of the difference between a church 00:47:54.199 --> 00:48:01.079 versus a camp and what you get. Here's an episode 00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:06.559 of text instead of an email. The response from 00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:11.800 the remote server was 554575, permanent error 00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:22.510 evaluating DMARC policy. Maybe they don't like 00:48:22.510 --> 00:48:25.389 the way that it's set up or configured. I don't 00:48:25.389 --> 00:48:27.050 know why that would be the case. It's not set 00:48:27.050 --> 00:48:32.230 up in a weird way. No. But altogether, I was 00:48:32.230 --> 00:48:36.190 just like, I'm not worried about this email address 00:48:36.190 --> 00:48:39.449 that this person sent this from. That is their 00:48:39.449 --> 00:48:44.269 email address. We're not going into any of that 00:48:44.269 --> 00:48:50.360 type of thing. Anyway. That was an interesting 00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:55.559 thing. So I'm actually having a conversation 00:48:55.559 --> 00:49:00.260 tomorrow with somebody from Sublime. You ever 00:49:00.260 --> 00:49:05.039 mess with them? No. Next Gen Email Security. 00:49:05.500 --> 00:49:09.119 I know the band. Yeah, Sublime, the band, awesome. 00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.880 So they're like a bolt -on to Gmail? I think 00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:21.220 they're a bolt -on. I don't really know. They're 00:49:21.220 --> 00:49:24.800 defense tailored for you, so you know there's 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:26.639 going to be some AI stuff involved with that. 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:38.000 Yeah. But the idea is to work alongside, I think, 00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:52.800 your email. To be able to detect. It has an agentic 00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:57.159 defense. Agentic meaning agent, meaning this 00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:03.579 is what we call AI now. Basically. Agentic email 00:50:03.579 --> 00:50:06.960 security where AI works for you, not around you. 00:50:07.739 --> 00:50:09.960 Yeah. I don't know what that means. I'm trying 00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:13.369 to understand their model. Is it? You're directing 00:50:13.369 --> 00:50:17.050 your email into them. They scan it and then they 00:50:17.050 --> 00:50:24.989 deliver it to Google. So that's why I'm wanting 00:50:24.989 --> 00:50:28.829 to talk to a human. Yeah. Because I don't fully 00:50:28.829 --> 00:50:43.059 understand it. Man, I am coughing all over the 00:50:43.059 --> 00:50:47.280 place. Come here, chocolate milk. Yeah, you're 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:52.719 going to want the lay opener. Trying to see if 00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:57.380 they explain how it all works. I mean, I can 00:50:57.380 --> 00:50:59.340 smell the chocolate as soon as I open it. Oh, 00:50:59.340 --> 00:51:00.579 yeah, as soon as you crack it open, yeah, it's 00:51:00.579 --> 00:51:07.869 like boom, right in the face. Oh, that is. Very 00:51:07.869 --> 00:51:09.909 chocolatey. It is, and you get that vanilla. 00:51:10.070 --> 00:51:16.510 Oh, my gosh. Yeah, the vanilla is kind of the 00:51:16.510 --> 00:51:20.909 aftertaste, which is funny because there's so 00:51:20.909 --> 00:51:28.110 much chocolate. This is not a beer. It's a porter. 00:51:29.050 --> 00:51:30.710 They're going to be a little more chocolatey. 00:51:31.449 --> 00:51:33.489 This is not a little more chocolatey, Chris. 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:42.139 It's Swiss Miss, baby. It really is. I don't 00:51:42.139 --> 00:51:46.619 even know what to say. This is dangerous. You 00:51:46.619 --> 00:51:50.079 know how people talk about Long Island iced teas? 00:51:52.019 --> 00:51:55.219 Yes. This is a very dangerous drink because it 00:51:55.219 --> 00:51:58.460 doesn't taste like alcohol. This is a very dangerous 00:51:58.460 --> 00:52:02.119 drink. This is a very dangerous beer. Yes, it 00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:06.599 can be. So it looks like this directly integrates 00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:10.440 into your Gmail. Yeah. And then once it has access, 00:52:10.500 --> 00:52:18.360 then it actively scans your email box for potential 00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:21.340 problems. So it looks like it is a direct integration 00:52:21.340 --> 00:52:25.119 into, it's not a redirect your email to us and 00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:33.619 then we'll deliver it off to Google. Because 00:52:33.619 --> 00:52:36.460 one of the things that brought me to them was 00:52:36.460 --> 00:52:40.880 when I was searching for attachment inspection. 00:52:42.739 --> 00:52:44.900 Inspection? Evaluation? I can't remember the 00:52:44.900 --> 00:52:48.019 word that I used. But it was basically like, 00:52:48.099 --> 00:52:55.440 listen. I can tell people all day long, don't 00:52:55.440 --> 00:53:01.440 click on the link. Sure. The attachment thing 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.699 is messing with me. Because I'm like, I don't 00:53:04.699 --> 00:53:09.980 actually trust them to not see the EXE. Don't 00:53:09.980 --> 00:53:12.380 open an attachment because there are legitimate 00:53:12.380 --> 00:53:16.760 attachments. I mean, there's too many. But, like, 00:53:16.900 --> 00:53:20.400 I mean, there are certain file types that I can 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:24.659 be like, listen, that is not what you think it 00:53:24.659 --> 00:53:28.900 is, and you are never going to get that through 00:53:28.900 --> 00:53:32.719 an email. Yeah. Are you kidding me? But PDFs, 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:35.159 we get those all the time. All the time, yes. 00:53:36.300 --> 00:53:38.440 I mean, the good news is if one of your folks 00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:40.519 tried to click on an EXE, it's not doing anything 00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:42.500 because they use a Mac. That's right. So you 00:53:42.500 --> 00:53:44.059 do at least have that in your favor. I don't 00:53:44.059 --> 00:53:52.860 want to stomp on your PC party over there. Well, 00:53:52.940 --> 00:53:58.739 I find this intriguing. Good, because I find 00:53:58.739 --> 00:54:01.719 it really disheartening. Well, I mean, I'm sorry, 00:54:01.820 --> 00:54:05.360 the sublime product is what I find intriguing. 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.860 I think there's smoke and mirrors in the terms 00:54:10.860 --> 00:54:16.980 that they're using. Obviously. I just have such 00:54:16.980 --> 00:54:19.940 a hard time with what people try to call AI, 00:54:20.059 --> 00:54:24.980 and it's like, no, it's not. It's machine learning. 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:30.570 You've got to understand what they're... It's 00:54:30.570 --> 00:54:32.909 machine learning and neural networks, and AI 00:54:32.909 --> 00:54:35.750 is the buzz term, so everything becomes AI. I'm 00:54:35.750 --> 00:54:39.949 just trying to figure out what to correlate that 00:54:39.949 --> 00:54:46.429 to in terms of when you see this on a website, 00:54:46.550 --> 00:54:48.670 you know that that's not what they're talking 00:54:48.670 --> 00:54:50.769 about. They're talking about this. Well, I mean, 00:54:50.829 --> 00:54:53.909 for me, by default, anytime somebody says AI, 00:54:54.050 --> 00:54:56.010 that's already a huge red flag of, like, you're 00:54:56.010 --> 00:54:58.880 lying to me. What are you really doing? Well, 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:02.019 okay, so from an AV standpoint, when somebody 00:55:02.019 --> 00:55:10.280 says HD. Okay. That means different things. 720? 00:55:10.940 --> 00:55:16.719 1080? So it got to the point where they would 00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:20.159 just say HD and there wasn't anything else. Now 00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:23.500 they do HD, they do full HD, and then they do 00:55:23.500 --> 00:55:29.409 whatever the new hotness is. 4K, 8K. Everything's 00:55:29.409 --> 00:55:36.989 4K. And don't forget your 1080i. Man, the first 00:55:36.989 --> 00:55:39.849 time I saw a 1080i on something, like the eye, 00:55:39.969 --> 00:55:42.869 not even 1080i, I feel like it was probably something 00:55:42.869 --> 00:55:45.889 else other than 1080, but the eye on the end, 00:55:45.929 --> 00:55:50.769 I was like, what the heck is that? Yes. And then 00:55:50.769 --> 00:55:53.230 I had to have a friend talk to me about interlacing. 00:55:53.449 --> 00:55:57.940 Yep. And I was like, oh, well. Interlace versus 00:55:57.940 --> 00:56:03.139 progressive scan. Worse. Okay. Yes. I don't know 00:56:03.139 --> 00:56:06.179 why we just didn't say worse. 1080 light. 1080 00:56:06.179 --> 00:56:11.039 light? Yes. 1080 almost. Almost, yes. Yeah. Yes. 00:56:12.380 --> 00:56:15.599 But it's that same thing. I shouldn't say same 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:18.320 thing, but there are things like that that I 00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:33.699 feel like we know. know like I'm trying to think 00:56:33.699 --> 00:56:36.360 of like the the marketing things that have that 00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:38.280 have come across that have always been about 00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:44.059 using the right term as opposed to sorry using 00:56:44.059 --> 00:56:48.460 the term that people associate with a benefit 00:56:48.460 --> 00:56:51.179 as opposed to using the term the way that it's 00:56:51.179 --> 00:56:57.480 meant to be sure use but like HD was kind of 00:56:57.480 --> 00:56:59.460 one of those things for me where I was like what 00:56:59.460 --> 00:57:03.230 are you talking about which Which HD? Which version, 00:57:03.289 --> 00:57:06.329 which flavor? Because there's a bunch of HDs. 00:57:06.789 --> 00:57:09.989 Yeah. And then you get the like, oh, no, you're 00:57:09.989 --> 00:57:15.389 not even like, but like not 60 hertz. You're 00:57:15.389 --> 00:57:19.690 one of those 59 point whatever people. Yeah. 00:57:21.710 --> 00:57:23.650 Yeah. Well, I'll be curious to see what you hear 00:57:23.650 --> 00:57:28.670 from these folks. It's intriguing. I'm sure there 00:57:28.670 --> 00:57:31.619 are certain things. Again, it's going to have 00:57:31.619 --> 00:57:37.739 to evaluate the attachment. So essentially, they're 00:57:37.739 --> 00:57:40.820 going to have to read the attachment. And based 00:57:40.820 --> 00:57:43.460 off the content of the attachment, or if they... 00:57:43.460 --> 00:57:46.639 Well, I shouldn't say that. They could potentially 00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:53.800 look at the... Oh, now I'm going to draw a blank. 00:57:58.409 --> 00:58:01.050 basically i need somebody to sandbox an attachment 00:58:01.050 --> 00:58:04.269 and open it for me before because i'm not like 00:58:04.269 --> 00:58:07.590 i can't expect everybody to do that correct um 00:58:07.590 --> 00:58:13.750 man that's uh check not not check some maybe 00:58:13.750 --> 00:58:17.809 it is check some checkmate i think the word you're 00:58:17.809 --> 00:58:20.090 looking for is checkmate no it has to do with 00:58:20.090 --> 00:58:23.050 it's a unique identifier for a file so like when 00:58:23.050 --> 00:58:26.550 you're doing D -duplication. Oh, okay. They have 00:58:26.550 --> 00:58:29.570 the same. I don't think, I think checksum is 00:58:29.570 --> 00:58:32.809 the wrong word. I feel like there's another term, 00:58:32.869 --> 00:58:36.170 but like they could look at a file and go, yes, 00:58:36.250 --> 00:58:41.070 that is the exact match of a known bad file. 00:58:41.449 --> 00:58:45.050 So I know they're the same thing. You can't have 00:58:45.050 --> 00:58:55.440 that. I'm yanking that out. Man, I'm drawing 00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:56.940 a total blank. That's what I get for drinking. 00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:01.559 This is what happens. Beer is bad for you. Beer 00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:04.699 is bad for the brain. Why are we even doing this? 00:59:06.260 --> 00:59:08.440 It gives us an excuse to hang out and drink beer. 00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:11.480 That's true. And to experiment with new beers. 00:59:11.860 --> 00:59:15.579 Both of these were good ones in very separate 00:59:15.579 --> 00:59:21.840 worlds. I'm not sure you should drink these at 00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:26.130 the same time. But that's what the water was 00:59:26.130 --> 00:59:29.469 for. There you go. Yeah, so anyways, I'm sure 00:59:29.469 --> 00:59:31.469 people out there will know what I'm forgetting, 00:59:31.610 --> 00:59:34.730 but bottom line, you can look at that file, see 00:59:34.730 --> 00:59:38.210 that unique signature, and go, that is a known 00:59:38.210 --> 00:59:44.110 match for a bad file. You're gone. But again, 00:59:44.269 --> 00:59:48.750 that's not AI. That's a whole other thing. Machine 00:59:48.750 --> 00:59:52.789 learning. And then they can... In a sense, sandbox 00:59:52.789 --> 00:59:56.610 the attachment, open it, see what's there, and 00:59:56.610 --> 01:00:01.110 literally read that attachment and be able to 01:00:01.110 --> 01:00:04.369 discern, is there a potential risk here? And 01:00:04.369 --> 01:00:08.329 then go, yeah, okay, you're out. So, I mean, 01:00:08.349 --> 01:00:13.570 there's some intriguing things there, but really 01:00:13.570 --> 01:00:15.090 at the end of the day, it's going to come down 01:00:15.090 --> 01:00:17.329 to how much of your money do they want? That's 01:00:17.329 --> 01:00:22.119 a very big part of this conversation. If it's 01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:25.219 a tool that I can use for things that are sent 01:00:25.219 --> 01:00:27.280 and then I can just say like, hey, if you're 01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:30.199 nervous about something, send it to me and then 01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:32.539 I can do it. I don't mind that. If this is something 01:00:32.539 --> 01:00:35.599 that I have to pay for every single user, that's 01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:38.139 a problem. I suspect it will be per user. Yeah, 01:00:38.179 --> 01:00:41.519 I agree. But at some point they got to understand 01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:46.739 some of these tools are not a per user thing. 01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:49.500 No, you're going to have to really lean into. 01:00:52.009 --> 01:00:54.610 Nonprofit discount. What do you got? Yeah. I 01:00:54.610 --> 01:00:56.230 mean, I always say that. And then they're like, 01:00:56.369 --> 01:00:59.710 yeah, but are you are kind of nonprofit or are 01:00:59.710 --> 01:01:01.969 you a different kind of nonprofit? That's true. 01:01:02.030 --> 01:01:03.789 And we're usually a different kind of nonprofit. 01:01:04.429 --> 01:01:08.909 Yes. These churches, man. How dare you not agree 01:01:08.909 --> 01:01:12.449 with the rainbow cult? I'm sorry. Therefore, 01:01:12.550 --> 01:01:15.309 you do not match the definition for nonprofit. 01:01:15.409 --> 01:01:18.469 I really am trying as hard as I can to like. 01:01:19.789 --> 01:01:22.690 do this the right way sure and navigate all this 01:01:22.690 --> 01:01:25.670 but it is not easy and people who say that it 01:01:25.670 --> 01:01:28.710 is are not telling the truth no no no no no it's 01:01:28.710 --> 01:01:31.829 not um i have a fun email one since we're talking 01:01:31.829 --> 01:01:35.469 email yeah um i'll hopefully know more from google 01:01:35.469 --> 01:01:41.130 support um we're running into an issue of absolutely 01:01:41.130 --> 01:01:46.809 legitimate email is being labeled as blatant 01:01:46.809 --> 01:01:53.340 spam So you don't even, you know, bypass the 01:01:53.340 --> 01:01:57.360 spam folder, nothing. You don't even know that 01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.159 it was ever sent to you because it's just like, 01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:03.480 no, blatant boom, you're out of here. And people 01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:06.739 are going, hey, they said I'm a part of this 01:02:06.739 --> 01:02:08.940 email chain and they got it, but I didn't get 01:02:08.940 --> 01:02:12.889 it. And then you go into Google and you do the 01:02:12.889 --> 01:02:15.650 email log search. And sure enough, you find it. 01:02:15.730 --> 01:02:18.110 And if you're not paying attention to the extra 01:02:18.110 --> 01:02:20.269 little information button, it says delivered. 01:02:20.969 --> 01:02:22.630 And you're like, oh, Google says it was delivered. 01:02:23.329 --> 01:02:26.349 And then you click the post delivery information. 01:02:28.030 --> 01:02:30.949 And then that's when you see that it was placed 01:02:30.949 --> 01:02:36.889 into deleted and that it was, how did they say 01:02:36.889 --> 01:02:41.199 it? Quarantined by admin. But if you go to your 01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:43.360 spam folder, it doesn't exist. Well, there was 01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:45.940 no admin involved with this conversation. Well, 01:02:45.940 --> 01:02:48.079 Google was the admin and they made the decision. 01:02:48.860 --> 01:02:54.619 Oh. So I've had to find. Was this Google's AI? 01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:58.320 I'm sure it was. I'm sure it's Gemini. Listen, 01:02:58.460 --> 01:03:01.300 Gemini. Stop blocking my stuff, man. You're drunk. 01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:06.079 Go home. Yeah, you're drunk. Go home. So I've 01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.260 been collecting all my information, getting that 01:03:08.260 --> 01:03:11.360 off to them to go. Tell me what's going on here 01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:13.400 and how do I fix it? Man, this chocolate milk 01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:18.340 is good. It is. This is not a great idea for 01:03:18.340 --> 01:03:20.920 ending the show. We should have. I have two more 01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:24.920 waiting at home. They say, come drink me. I am 01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:33.559 your friend. I mean, it is like. I was never. 01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:41.010 I'm not old enough to do the like. Careful. Chocolate 01:03:41.010 --> 01:03:45.489 milk seltzer. Chocolate milk seltzer. You mean 01:03:45.489 --> 01:03:48.570 like a chocolate Coke? Yeah. Like a, not a Coke. 01:03:49.010 --> 01:03:52.530 Okay. But like they, they used to do like, um, 01:03:52.550 --> 01:04:00.670 chocolate seltzer, like, um, like a vanilla. 01:04:01.429 --> 01:04:07.329 Um, Oh my gosh. What are those things called? 01:04:08.989 --> 01:04:11.190 I'm saying seltzer because it's like the seltzer 01:04:11.190 --> 01:04:13.070 water is what they used to call anything with 01:04:13.070 --> 01:04:16.269 carbonation in it. Okay. Right? Am I making that 01:04:16.269 --> 01:04:20.590 up? No. But it was like that. Like a carbonated 01:04:20.590 --> 01:04:25.070 Yahoo? Yeah, like a... Gosh, what is the word 01:04:25.070 --> 01:04:31.849 that I'm looking for? Anyway. How about a carbonated 01:04:31.849 --> 01:04:36.530 beverage? That's what this is like. It's not 01:04:36.530 --> 01:04:39.820 good for... I would... I would liken this to 01:04:39.820 --> 01:04:42.920 the first time I ever had a Zima. Yeah, where 01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:45.159 you're like, oh, no. It's like, that's pretty 01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:47.059 good. This lemonade has a... And then you're 01:04:47.059 --> 01:04:50.440 like, wow, give me another. Bro. And then it's 01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:52.679 like, oh, yeah, there was alcohol in that. I 01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:55.139 should slow down. Have you gone to Jimmy John's 01:04:55.139 --> 01:04:58.139 lately? I have not. So every once in a while, 01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:01.980 Jimmy John's has like a chip flavor that's like, 01:05:02.099 --> 01:05:06.300 where did that come from? Okay. And so because 01:05:06.300 --> 01:05:13.239 we... as a church, um, we have a meal, like a 01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:16.719 big meal. Um, everyone say that we, we try to 01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:20.840 get people to, um, come and eat together and 01:05:20.840 --> 01:05:22.579 then go to their Bible studies together. And 01:05:22.579 --> 01:05:26.559 so Jimmy John's is one of the places we've gotten 01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:29.599 food from in order to make that happen. Whatever. 01:05:31.340 --> 01:05:34.239 Anyway, every once in a while they send like 01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:41.670 their, chip flavor that they're like excited 01:05:41.670 --> 01:05:44.409 about i don't know it's seasonal like it's they've 01:05:44.409 --> 01:05:45.849 got their regular they've got their barbecue 01:05:45.849 --> 01:05:48.269 they've got their jalapeno they've got their 01:05:48.269 --> 01:05:53.690 uh vinegar salt and vinegar i don't know what 01:05:53.690 --> 01:05:57.210 else also else all they have on a regular basis 01:05:57.210 --> 01:06:01.090 but they have like they have specialty chips 01:06:01.090 --> 01:06:04.989 i don't know how to drink water but i don't drink 01:06:04.989 --> 01:06:11.010 beer very difficult but um so we got there like 01:06:11.010 --> 01:06:15.650 pickle chips one time and it was it was great 01:06:15.650 --> 01:06:18.750 our our people that love pickled flavored things 01:06:18.750 --> 01:06:23.809 everybody in crossfit they loved it yeah it was 01:06:23.809 --> 01:06:27.150 great um but they sent us um tonight they sent 01:06:27.150 --> 01:06:33.280 us these uh chips that I couldn't make out what 01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:35.619 they said on the box. And I was like, I don't 01:06:35.619 --> 01:06:38.340 know what that is. So just, you know, put it 01:06:38.340 --> 01:06:41.539 out with the rest of the chips and let's see 01:06:41.539 --> 01:06:44.840 when they opened the box, it was kicking ranch. 01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:49.780 Kicking ranch is what they called it. And so, 01:06:49.820 --> 01:06:52.920 you know, you get like, obviously this is ranch. 01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:54.980 So it's going to have the ranch flavor to it. 01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:57.219 Yes. So people that like ranch are going to love 01:06:57.219 --> 01:06:59.400 it because everybody likes ranch. It's ranch. 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:03.760 But it said Kicken Ranch, and I was like, that 01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:05.760 tells me something. And then as soon as you open 01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:10.440 the chips, they don't look like light, which 01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:12.739 is what everything ranch -flavored looks like. 01:07:12.739 --> 01:07:19.940 If you open ranch Pringles, they are whiter than 01:07:19.940 --> 01:07:23.280 normal Pringles. Yes, they are. This was not 01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:32.320 the coloring. They were a little bit. And I was 01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:35.199 like, oh. So there's some heat. And I'm telling 01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:41.239 you, it wasn't a lot of heat. I don't like a 01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:45.059 lot of heat. Oh, I do. I'm not a big fan of their 01:07:45.059 --> 01:07:49.159 jalapeno chips. Everybody loves these. But it 01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:51.760 was jalapeno and ranch. And I'm telling you, 01:07:51.860 --> 01:07:56.980 these chips, you need to go find some. Okay. 01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:01.159 So Jimmy John's. Before they stop selling these. 01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:04.159 The Kickin' Ranch. Find the Kickin' Ranch Jimmy 01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:06.860 John's chips. If you like kettle chips, because 01:08:06.860 --> 01:08:10.860 all of their chips are the kettle chip variety, 01:08:11.099 --> 01:08:15.840 I think. Okay. Lori doesn't like them. I love 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:18.079 them. Okay. So I get their regular chips all 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:20.279 the time. But these Kickin' Ranch ones were like, 01:08:20.420 --> 01:08:23.840 again, way too much air time that we've just 01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:28.420 spent on something that is not. Well. I thank 01:08:28.420 --> 01:08:30.779 you for bringing up food because you reminded 01:08:30.779 --> 01:08:33.220 me of something I needed to talk about. In fact, 01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:35.199 we need to put something on the schedule for 01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:37.680 next Tuesday. Okay. We need to go have lunch. 01:08:38.020 --> 01:08:41.020 Yeah. We're going to Fusion. You've probably 01:08:41.020 --> 01:08:43.560 heard me talk about Fusion as a Chinese restaurant 01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:47.920 on 155 where Purple Pig used to be. Oh, yeah. 01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:52.760 Down on, yeah. Yes. So, Luis, the owner. Yeah. 01:08:54.180 --> 01:08:58.720 Tuesdays are now Taco Tuesdays. Oh, no. Oh, yes. 01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:04.060 Street tacos. Oh, no. Oh, yes. And his wife makes 01:09:04.060 --> 01:09:09.420 the Verde sauce. Okay. Oh, it's so good. And 01:09:09.420 --> 01:09:14.020 the heat. I'm talking serious heat. Yeah. Not 01:09:14.020 --> 01:09:16.399 for someone like my daughter who would be like, 01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:21.479 you just feel it wrap around your tongue and 01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:25.029 it just sits there and just says. Hello, friend. 01:09:25.250 --> 01:09:29.989 I'm here. So, yes, if you have not been to Fusion, 01:09:30.550 --> 01:09:34.550 I highly recommend you go to Fusion. I realize 01:09:34.550 --> 01:09:36.210 that most of our downloads happen in Europe, 01:09:36.270 --> 01:09:38.369 so this is meaningless to you. Yeah, sorry, guys. 01:09:38.529 --> 01:09:40.689 But if you're in the Tyler area, you got to go 01:09:40.689 --> 01:09:46.210 to Fusion, Highway 155. Southwest Tyler. If you 01:09:46.210 --> 01:09:47.710 can't make it on a Tuesday, you're still going 01:09:47.710 --> 01:09:50.750 to get tremendous Chinese food. But if you get 01:09:50.750 --> 01:09:52.970 there on a Tuesday... It is kind of funny that 01:09:52.970 --> 01:09:58.470 it's... Chinese and Mexican fusion. But Luis 01:09:58.470 --> 01:10:01.529 and his family are Mexican. I get it. I'm just 01:10:01.529 --> 01:10:04.590 saying. So that's just the way these things go. 01:10:04.710 --> 01:10:08.189 Is it the same company that bought out the Red 01:10:08.189 --> 01:10:11.649 Lobster? No, no, no, no, no, no. They're not 01:10:11.649 --> 01:10:13.369 the same people. No, no, no, not the same people. 01:10:13.489 --> 01:10:14.949 Because I'm telling you, they're doing the same 01:10:14.949 --> 01:10:19.810 thing. Okay, fair. I don't know. But I've heard 01:10:19.810 --> 01:10:22.970 some really nasty reviews about that place. I'm 01:10:22.970 --> 01:10:25.939 just saying Luis needs to like, Luis has got 01:10:25.939 --> 01:10:28.420 it. Get some people making sure that everybody 01:10:28.420 --> 01:10:30.319 knows that that's not the same place. Oh, no. 01:10:30.420 --> 01:10:33.439 No, it's definitely not. But so, yeah, I can't 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:37.239 speak highly enough of his food. I mean, the 01:10:37.239 --> 01:10:41.319 Chinese food alone is off the charts. But now 01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:43.819 what he's serving as these tacos is what they 01:10:43.819 --> 01:10:48.819 basically make for themselves at home. So it's 01:10:48.819 --> 01:10:52.840 really, really good. I'm in. Yeah, so next Tuesday 01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:54.800 we need to do that. We need to go have Taco Tuesday 01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:59.579 lunch. I love it. Let's do it. I mean, yeah, 01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:03.239 I'm totally in. So we get out of staff meeting 01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:06.359 at like 12, 15. I can work around your schedule. 01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:14.180 Let's do it. It's a date. No doxing or anything, 01:11:14.300 --> 01:11:16.000 but that's where we're going to be. No doxing. 01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:19.619 So, yeah, if you're listening and you know, show 01:11:19.619 --> 01:11:23.859 up. Jason. yes there you go yeah no pressure 01:11:23.859 --> 01:11:27.420 but show up you know somebody's leaving from 01:11:27.420 --> 01:11:30.640 the same place well you're not in the same place 01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:35.539 are you no no that's that's another story for 01:11:35.539 --> 01:11:37.300 another day we're not gonna do that right now 01:11:37.300 --> 01:11:43.020 um hey man it's been a good show thanks for hanging 01:11:43.020 --> 01:11:47.359 out enjoyed it good beers appreciate you yes 01:11:47.359 --> 01:12:12.189 see ya see ya What you heard was a masterpiece.