Hey, Chris, how you doing? Good. How you doing,
John? I'm going to be okay. It has been quite
a day, but we'll get to that in a second. Yeah.
We got a few different beers tonight. We have
a plethora of piñatas. A plethora of piñatas.
So we're going to start with, in memory of Jason.
Special show beer. Special show beer in memory
of Jason being on the show. Okay. He hasn't died.
No, he hasn't. Too much. He hasn't. Ay, ay, ay.
He left us two more beers from his motherland.
Oh. Fatherland? Motherland. I don't know. Yeah.
Whatever you are, Michigan. They're from Founders.
Oh. This is the CBS. Oh, I've not had this one.
Yeah, I definitely have not. It is an imperial
stout brewed with chocolate and coffee aged in
bourbon barrels. We have a theme. Yeah, we do.
With maple syrup. Oh, maple syrup. Just in case
it wasn't thick enough. And this thing is 11
.7%. I see that. Wow. Feeling good. CBS. And
then we have another 11 point. Yeah, we do. The
Dragon's Milk Reserve. Reserve. Coffee chocolate.
Which is another coffee chocolate. There's a
theme going on there. I love it says Madcap Coffee.
Yeah. And then if we're feeling dangerous. We
can try the. We have. Third beer. The third beer.
Delirium Nocturnum. That feels really. It's Belgian.
Yeah. It's. Family Brewed and what was the...
Is it like a triple or a quad? It's eight and
a half. It's a lightweight. Oh. Eight and a half.
It does not say on the bottle. Okay. So we're
just kind of flying blind on that one because
it's not even a clear... You can't even see the
beer inside of that bottle. No, I... Y 'all check
out this bottle in the artwork. We'll get it
in the show notes. Yeah, show notes. But it's
got a cork in the whole nine. Looks like a real
boy. Anyway, let me start with the CBS. Yeah,
I was trying to. Oh. What? CBS, do you know what
it stands for? No. Canadian Breakfast Out. Okay,
so the Canada Ian's? Yeah. The Scandinavian breakfast
town, baby. The Southern Greenlanders. Yes. The
53rd state, because we're going to have to do
Puerto Rico, Greenland, and then Canada. I do
think we're going to keep Puerto Rico to the
curb. You do? Yeah. We're just going to kind
of let it go. Or they'll always just be the redheaded
stepchild. They'll always just keep it just a
little bit out of reach. I did have a spirited
discussion with my wife about... Greenland and
all of that fun stuff. So that was, this is not
a political show. It's about the shipping lanes.
It's about the shipping lanes and maybe getting
closer. Nevermind. Yes. So, well, they have a
little bit of a blurb on the founder site. Okay.
CBS. It's time to be legend. Wait for it. Dairy.
Legend, and I hope you're not lactose intolerant
because the second half of this word is dairy.
Exactly. The legendary CBS returns. CBS is a
bold imperial stout featuring chocolate and coffee
that is aged in bourbon barrels with maple syrup.
The sweet but balanced aromas of maple syrup
and chocolate fill the air, while notes of toasted
oak and vanilla become more profound with every
sip, melding together. And what can only be described
as a transcendent drinking experience. Well,
I need to be transcended. So that's, that's some
bold language. Now I do like their regular breakfast
out. Hey, did it catch it? It caught it. No,
that's the really glad the video wasn't on for
that. Cause yeah, that was not graceful at all,
but I did. I did catch it. You caught the cap.
I caught the cap. That's what the thing is supposed
to do. That's what it's supposed to do. This
is fun. It says barrel -aged series. Oh, wow.
Yeah, you can smell it immediately. Oh, yeah.
That was like, boom, like a smack in the face
in a good way. Yeah. I mean, it is a good smell
for sure. Oh. This is going to be exciting, folks.
I need a moment, folks. I'm sorry. Hold on. what's
with the, Oh, the Mountie. I get it. There's
a horse on the, on the label. And I was like,
what? Yeah. But you see, he's not on the horse.
Even the horse knows I'm getting out of here.
Yeah. The horse is like, uh, that guy fell off
a ways back. I get the chocolate. Oh, for sure.
There's some sweetness. Uh, yeah, I can definitely,
um, smell that, uh, yeah. Maple. Yeah. Yeah,
a little bit of the, what do you call it, the
bourbon barrel. Get some notes of the bourbon.
It's saying that the vanilla is going to come,
the vanilla and oak are going to come later.
So I'm interested to see how that plays out.
Well, here we go. Cheers. Starting off strong.
Yeah, that's real smooth. Yeah, it's like I can
feel it building. That's weird. It is weird.
It starts kind of tame. It's got a little bit
of the bourbon like, I don't know what you'd
like. It's not bite, but that like. Just the
flavor. Yeah, that bourbon side of the tongue
flavor. But then like everything else kind of
waits and then gets stronger and stronger and
stronger. The coffee. Is getting a lot stronger
right now. Yeah. I think the more you bring that
in, the more it's like, oh no, the coffee is
there. It is. This is a breakfast beer for sure.
You are, you are. I got my coffee. I got my coffee.
Just need some ice, man. Wow, that's good. Wow.
Yeah, I really like that a lot. I mean, every
time you drink, the coffee kind of subsides and
then it comes back. So it's initial, initial
like tastes are definitely that the chocolate
and the maple and that bourbon. Like, yeah, that's
so weird. Cause I mean, you, you, you take the
drink, you swallow it down and it's like nothing.
Yeah. And then it's just like, Here's a layer
and here's the next layer and the next layer
and the next layer. And it's like, oh my gosh.
Yeah. I'm not, I'm not used to the taste getting
stronger. No, not, not. It gets stronger, but
you can taste each of like the notes. Yeah. You
get the chocolate, you get the coffee, you get
the syrup and then you get the bourbon. Yeah.
I think the, the coffee is definitely last of
what I'm tasting, but it's definitely what is.
the most pronounced whenever I'm sitting here
longer. Yeah. Like, wow, that is, that is an
interesting, how do they do that? This is really,
really good. I have not seen this anywhere. Uh,
no, I don't. I mean, this is, it's a Canadian
breakfast out. We don't have that in Texas. It's
made in Michigan. Yeah. Texas. Yeah. But we get
all the Texas. We get all the others. I know.
I know. They have a spot on here. Find CBS. Let's
see how far they ship it. I mean, yeah. Specs,
okay, but not in that zip code. Yeah, we're a
ways out. I have found that if they have something
at Specs, like online you go and you see something
on Specs, if you ask for it at Fat Dogs, they'll
try. To try to get it? Yeah. Oh. So that may
be worth... Well, I'm trying to see if they're
going to tell me it's there or not. It's the
internet. You can't believe everything you see
on the internet. Specs says out of stock. But
I didn't want you to go to that location, folks.
It is interesting that it's Canadian breakfast
out, but very proudly in the top right corner
of this label it says... produced in the u .s
yes so just just throwing it out there in canada
i guess i guess they're just not gonna tell me
jason we need you to do some research because
this is this is worth knowing if we can that's
a mighty tasty beer yeah man man if you don't
like those tastes i'm gonna say that out loud
if you don't like like if the idea of a beer
that tastes a little bit like coffee and a little
bit like chocolate and syrup. If that's, if that's
not your thing, you're going to hate both of
these. Sure. But I would think if you, if you're
a stout drinker, you're used to some of the coffee
flavor. Yeah, I would think so. And some of the
chocolate. Yeah. Dark chocolate and coffee. And
sometimes they'll do like, you know, the milk
stouts are kind of, a different thing they're
just it's some are okay and some are not so much
um but with this i would say the the chocolate
is not overpowering and the maple syrup isn't
too strong no i don't think so i think they're
stronger than in the dragon's milk um there's
no maple syrup in the dragon's milk that i remember
but like no the coffee and chocolate um I think
it had a stronger coffee. We're about to find
out. I think it had a stronger chocolate taste.
This definitely has a stronger coffee taste to
me. Wow. I wish I had more to take home. I'm
enjoying this a lot. Wow. This is really good.
And what I have to say, what this beer has done,
it's made us actually talk about the beer again.
Yeah, no. Because we've had quite a few shows
where it's been like, yeah, that's a good beer.
And then we're doing something else. No, this
is definitely worth talking about. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, this is a highly recommend. If you're somewhere
and you see this, grab all that they have. Yeah,
number one. Just go ahead and buy it. If you
don't like it, we'll buy it off of you. Yes,
you can donate it to the show. That's better.
I like that better. Let's do that. We accept
donations of all beer. Yeah, of all beer. And
we would even accept donations of whiskey and
scotch and bourbons and all the good stuff. We
should do that one of these days. I know that
this is beer and gear, but we should bring a
bourbon and scotch and see what we think. Do
you have a favorite scotch? Probably, well, my
brother's a big Macallan fan, but that's too
expensive for my blood. Right. So for me, it
would probably be a Glenfiddich 15. And if I'm
feeling really loose with my money, the 18. But
Glenlivet, they make a good one too. Yeah, I
found a McLeod that I think was an 18. locally
that was not expensive um and it was really good
um but you're right like when when scotch gets
expensive it gets real expensive yes it does
um so i i'm not i'm not gonna i mean i've bought
i've even bought johnny walker blue for a friend
yeah because it was his favorite and i'm i'm
willing to do that for somebody who really does
appreciate it yeah um and i think the the the
most expensive one that I've bought that I've
really like wanted to try and then tried and
then did like, it was the Lagavulin that was,
it had to be 18. Yeah. But that was quite a ways
back there. Yeah. But this McLeod one was more
in the 25 to $35 range. Yeah. For an 18. Yeah.
Wow. Yeah. I was surprised. Wow. And maybe it
was just a deal on it at that time. Okay. Um,
it's not spelled. It's spelled like the Highlander,
right? It wasn't he? L -E -O -D. L -E -O -D.
Yeah. I think it was. Yeah. It may have been
M -A -C. Oh, okay. Well, I don't remember. Well,
it's the same thing. We won't hold it against
him. Um, and then bourbon. Yeah. We have a favorite
bourbon in our house. What's your favorite bourbon?
Uh, well, I start to blend the streams when it
gets outside of scotch. You mean cross the streams?
Cross the streams, blend the streams, whatever.
I'm just saying, you're saying we shouldn't cross
the streams and then we're going to cross the
streams. I'll blame the CBS. What's the... Maker's
Mark? Maker's Mark, yep. That's a good one. Yeah.
For sure. We, we, my sister -in -law, not sister
-in -law. That's mine. Yep. My sister and my
brother -in -law told us about one when Lori
and I were relatively newly married called Breckenridge.
Okay. And it's not an expensive bourbon. Okay.
It's not, you know, it's not going to be. Buffalo
trace. It's not going to be like the whatever
hard to find, but like for a, we always have
this bourbon. It's fantastic. Okay. And it's
just called Breckenridge. They may have a, um,
they have a few different kinds. I just can't,
excuse me. I can't remember what all the, uh,
variations of it are, but the, the, just the,
just the bourbon. Is really good. It's got a
mountain scape in the background. Now, if I was
going to mix with like a Coke or a Dr. Pepper.
Bullet. That's a good one. I like Monkey Shoulder.
Monkey Shoulder? Yeah. Well, there you go. I
guess technically it would maybe qualify as a
blended whiskey. Yeah, I think. I think. But
it's good. I have a friend whose mixer is always
Jim Beam. I get it, but I like Bullet mixed because
Bullet, in my opinion, is really strong. The
taste is really strong. You really have the fire
in Bullet. I like it when you mix it with something
else because you still taste the bourbon. And
some people probably think that that's a waste,
but... Well, that's okay. That's fine. It's another
one of those, we won't hold it against you. Yeah,
Monkey Shoulder, they call it a blended malt
scotch whiskey. But I do like that one, and I
like the bottle. It's got the little, the three
little monkeys on the bottle. Yeah, what's the
really expensive one? Not 12 monkeys. No, not
12. Holy cow. Blanton's, the one with the horse
on it. That's the little sphere bottle. Yes.
I drank some of that with a friend who really
enjoys Blanton. That was a lot of bourbon in
that particular sip. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. You hear
on their side, they say that. Monkey shoulder
is made for mixing bold enough to stand out balance
enough, not to overpower great with mixes or
on its own. Yeah. I think that's, um, like there,
there are certain drinks that I think you like
are really going for a mixture, I guess. Um,
and, and monkey shoulder would be, uh, a good
one for. for that it's funny to me because i
always think of you know you you've you've gone
to a bar and they pour you a drink and it's um
you're wondering where the whiskey where's the
whiskey where the whiskey mcclintock um yeah
uh that's what i think of when i think of something
that blends well and i understand like it could
have just been a really weak pour Sure. But that's
why I like Bullet in mixes because it's like,
nope, there it is. Yep. Makes me feel like I'm
paying for it, which you are. Oh, you are. That's
for sure. That you are. Mm -hmm. Man, this is
a good beer. Yeah, I like this a lot. Thank you,
Jason. Yeah, thank you, Jason. Now, if you have
more at home, you should pass it along. Or if
your dad has more that he wants to send our way
with some of that cheese. From his dad? No. Oh,
okay. Yeah, the cheese. I was just trying to
throw in the cheese. Oh, and he's made a slight
tweak. Excuse me? To the cheese, and I tried
it at the office when he brought it in. And?
It was good. Jason, we have a fridge here at
the podcast house, and so it would be great if
there was just some cheese. What is it going
to take, man? We will be your testers. Yeah.
You tweak the format. However you want to tweak
it. You tweak the formula. You send it to us.
Yeah. We'll give you feedback. Absolutely. On
the show feedback. On the show feedback. Absolutely.
Free advertising. Pop's Cheese. Poppa's Cheese.
Poppa's Cheese. Poppa's Cheese. I'm just saying,
this show not brought to you by Poppa's Cheese,
but... Hopefully in the future. It could be.
Papa's cheese. I'm all for it. We'll do a little
commercial. CBS. That would not be bad. Not the
broadcaster. CBS. This is CNN. No, please don't.
Good Lord. That's a movie reference if you know
the movie. I mean, I thought it was just CNN.
Well, a long time ago, yes. Yeah. Now I'm going
to blink on the movie. Oh, this is horrible.
Kung Pao, Enter the Fist. It's Mushu and the
lion. And he's fading out and he goes, this is
CNN. CNN. Oh, love that movie. Enter the Fist.
That's a while ago, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I wasn't
married when that movie came out. I had a friend
tell me today that he's definitely still in the,
when he says 20 years ago, he's talking about
1980. Oh. I was like, yeah, I get that. Like,
that makes sense. I saw the, you know, meme the
other day that was the people born in 2000 are
26 years old. That's so weird because I was born
in 1983 and I'm 26 years old. I'm 26 years old
too. Wait a minute. Hey, that's interesting math.
That's so weird. Interesting math. Well, remind
me when we get to the point of wrapping up. I
have a couple of show announcements to make.
Show announcements. Show announcements. Announcements.
No. Don't. Not doing it. Too soon? I mean. Oh,
you're going in for number two. Not for some
of us. I feel like. You've been, yeah. I feel
like I have, I'm slacking because usually I'm
the one that's ahead of you. That is the case,
but I'll tell you why. So this is not tech related,
but you know, you're listening to this, so you
probably know us. My son. At the beginning of
this year, he's in middle school. So I have three
children. And my youngest son is a sixth grader
this year. And he is in a middle school that
shall not be named. And it's his first year in
middle school, of course, at sixth grade. But
he's also, it's his first year in this district.
Because my wife teaches in a different district.
I mean, we made the choice to move our kids whenever
they started sixth grade into this district that
we actually live in instead of being in the district
that Lori teaches in because they wouldn't be
in her age group anymore anyway. And the idea
of them staying for another year and then moving
in seventh grade when they would have moved to
a different school, it just didn't make any sense.
First year in middle school, also first year
in this new district. And, you know, the middle
school is just tough anyway. You're trying to
figure out friend groups, brand new. Within the
first month of him being at this school, he's
in pre -athletics and they start, you guys start
pantsing each other, which for our generation.
Is like, yeah, I mean, we've all been there.
That's what you do. And the coach is like, hey,
stop it. And so they all stop. And then at the
end of the day, at the end of the school day,
my son, who has by that point run out of his
medication for his ADHD, sees the kid that he
had tried to pants. The only thing that goes
on in his little lizard brain at that point is,
I didn't get him. I'm going to get him this time.
So he runs up to him and tries to pants him.
I don't know. He says he didn't get him, but
he at least was holding onto his pants and pulling.
Okay. And the kid in my son's telling of this
turns around and is trying to get Cade to stop,
and he pops Cade. in his cheeks. Okay. And so
Kay just swings at him, punches him in the face.
Um, the next day kid shows up with his parents.
They're upset. Um, and I still don't know anything
about this. Um, cause Kate's not, you know, just
going to tell me that something like this happens.
But evidently, um, uh, They come in hot and they
look at the videotape and they see not only in
athletics where Cade interacts with this kid,
but they see at the end of the day they can also
see this happen. And so what I was told is that
they did not see the other kid touch Cade at
all. And Cade wasn't making a big deal about
that when we first talked. He's just kind of
accepting that he's in trouble because he's in
trouble. But what he doesn't realize is that
all of this is compounding on itself. So the
parents see Cade going after their son in pre
-athletics and they see him going after their
son after school and they see him punch him,
not seeing that the kid touched Cade at all.
So in their mind, this is bullying. Targeting,
I think is what they call it. Targeting. You
know, they have a no bullying policy. Kate's
going to get in real trouble. So the school suspends
him for three days. And I'm like, yeah, all that
makes sense at that point. But then they involve
the school police officer. Oh. This is written
up as assault. Wow. This goes. All the way to
the court. To the county court. And we're told
that that is happening. But my general thought
on the whole thing is, this is interesting. I
don't think that, I understand that misdemeanor
assault, which is what they're classifying this
at, is any unwanted touch. So technically, pantsing
the kid is assault. Okay. Under that definition.
Yeah. Yeah. I like misdemeanor class, class C
misdemeanor assault is any, if I spit on you,
that's a class C misdemeanor because it's provocative.
It would, Oh, whatever. All that to say, we finally
get a summons. We hire a lawyer. And today was
the day that I took my son to court and talk
through all this. Now a lot has come to light
since all of this went down. Number one, the
officer in question at this unnamed school may
have been a little overzealous. Okay. The school
has since proved itself a little overzealous.
Okay. And then finally, Like, with new laws being
passed on this sort of thing, there's just, there's
a lot right now. So what I would say is, number
one, my initial reaction to all of this is, this
is not the world I grew up in. I mean, I've said
that over and over and over again. I don't, I
got pantsed. I'm pretty sure I pantsed other
kids. It was kind of my wife pantsed her sister
in a mall one time. Oh boy. Or the other way
around. I can't remember. Anyway, like different.
I understand. I really do. We live, we live in
a different world. There are a lot of different
sensitivities now when it comes to that. And,
and most of them, I would say. I don't even know
if I can say most of them. A whole, whole lot
of them. I understand where the sensitivity is
coming from. I am not saying that we should not
be insensitive. Sure. I'm not saying that my
son should not have consequences for his actions.
I firmly believe in those consequences and making
sure that he understands that his life is not
without consequence. Sure. But there's a list
of things that I now have to do with my son in
the next six months and make sure that he does
accomplishes in the next six months that I just
I don't know. And I mean, a ridiculous amount
of money that we have now paid. I just I don't
know that this is a tenable situation for the
world. It feels like. You know, with a lot of
things there, there's just, there's no, I don't
know. So anyway, that's why I may be going through
these beers a little bit faster than normal.
Sure. It's just, I'm tired. Let me catch up with
you. So if you're wondering, this is the Dragon's
Milk Reserve coffee chocolate. Yeah, I'm going
to take it back. Bourbon barrel aged. There's
a lot of taste in that one too. But it's the
fact that it's all on the front end. But our
palate is a little off, so to speak. I would
say that too. But what is different about these
two is how it attacks your mouth. And I don't
mean attack in a bad way. Okay. Like with Dragon's
Milk Reserve, it is immediate that that is what
you're tasting. It tastes good. I'm not whatever,
but it is like, you taste it. Yeah. With CBS,
it is like, what was that? Oh, there it is. Oh,
there it is. Like it just comes on later. I feel
like the founders has. Change the flavor. Because
I had one of these at home. Oh, before you came?
Well, I had it... What was it? Well, I guess
it was the night of the last show that we did.
I had one that night. Yeah, sure. And it didn't
taste like this. Okay. So I think that the founders
is really... Bringing out some other stuff? Manipulating
the palate, so to speak. Interesting. This Belgian
ale is going to taste like chocolate and coffee.
Is that what you're saying? Wait a minute. We
may not be able to give it a fair shake, to be
honest. No, I don't think you can give it a fair
assessment after this. Because I had this one,
like I said before, and I could taste the coffee.
I could taste the chocolate. But I feel like
it was more smooth than this. This felt a little
more. Heavy on the bourbon. Aggressive. I know
you're not a coffee guy, but it does make me
want to try Madcap Coffee because that's who
is partnering with this Dragon's Milk concoction.
It's only 11%. Only? Barely a beer. Yeah, that
whole, what was it, 0 .7? Yeah, 0 .7 makes a
difference. Well, that's what I said. That one's
a lightweight at eight and a half. Eight and
a half. Like, oh, whatever. It's water. Yeah.
How's it going with you? Well, I don't have that,
obviously. I have my own challenges. Of course.
Since we're sharing. Yeah, share away. Well,
I'll start with children. Feeling seat, if you
would. We are in the feeling chair, folks. Settle
in. Some smooth jams. We are facing some of our
own challenges with Garrett, our oldest. Okay.
21. Been out of school this upcoming May of two
years. Trying to light a fire. There's a lot
of dragon feet. A lot of family heat. Didn't
mean to make that rhyme, but it did. Dragon feet
and family heat. Family heat, baby. Yeah. So
we thought we were on the path for it to be an
electrician. Great. Excellent choice. Nothing
wrong with the trade. No. And then it has flipped
to, well, I actually have a chance to go work
for my buddy and work in survey. Great. I approve
of that too. Like land survey. Yeah. I'm like,
that's awesome. Great. Go do. And not like Google
survey. No, not, not like Google surveys. Um,
but I think it's falling through. And so we're
kind of like, uh, so we're back to electrical,
right? Uh, I don't know. I'm like, well, this
may is two years and you're still working a part
-time job. Now he makes enough money in a part
-time job. To pay half his car payment, half
his insurance, his gas, whatever stuff he wants
to do with his money. This is two years. This
is two years. He's not paying his whole car payment.
Correct. Or his whole insurance. Correct. Or
rent. Or rent. Or utilities. Yeah. Or anything.
Anything. So we feel like we're being generous.
Yeah. My mom and dad, however, are like, you're
horrible. How dare you make him pay for it? I'm
like. hey, who are you? You should have done
this to me. Yeah, like, wait a minute, wait a
minute. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. If I remember
correctly. You should have done this to me. Yeah.
You let me languish from the time that I was
19 to the time I was 25. And it is only by the
grace of God that I woke up on my 25th birthday
and he smacked me upside the head and said, grow
up, boy. And I listened. Because not too long
after that, I met my future wife. You needed
to be. And if she would have met the pre -25
-year -old me, she'd have been like, that dude's
a loser. Yeah, that dude is not helping. So we're
trying to light a fire. Yeah. Trying to motivate.
Trying not to stir anger. Yeah. Which is. Tough.
Tough. Because anger can come real quickly in
that 21 -year -old. Because he views it as a
personal attack. And I was like, no, no, no,
no, no. There's no personal attack here. We're
trying to help motivate you, help you figure
out where you want to go, trying to light a fire,
trying to motivate, trying to push him in the
right direction. Just help people or help him
understand that there's more. Correct. Right.
Correct. And so you deal with the influence of
family. Yeah. Because family feels like you're
being... Too hard or too difficult. I mean, yeah.
I think anytime you draw a line with anything
in your family, the people that are older than
you and your family are going to wonder about
the wisdom of that. Sure. Because they see I
could go this way or that way. It's really funny
to me because my parents. are not the people
that I grew up with. Oh, mine aren't either for
sure. I, I, I should stop. My dad is, my dad's
the same exact person. He just, he didn't really
have to raise us. So he doesn't, he hasn't changed.
Okay. But mom, good Lord. Has she turned into
a softie with green? I mean, I feel like I've
told you the story, but if not, and it doesn't
really matter. Um, when we lived with them briefly,
When we were getting part of our old house remodeled,
we couldn't live in it. And so we lived at my
parents' house with them. And I walked in one
morning and my son asked if he could have ice
cream for breakfast. I was like, no, that's ridiculous.
He's like, well, when can I? I was like, later.
Like, I'm not, whatever. And so I go and do some
other things. in the house and trying to help
out because we're living at my parents' house.
And so you want to help out. And I come back
in and it's like, instead of maybe eight o 'clock
or whatever, it's now 10 o 'clock. And my son
is sitting at the table eating ice cream. And
I'm like, are you freaking kidding me? I told
you, I told you no, but it's later. That's exactly
what my mother said to me. And I was like, who
are you? Who are you? Because I know when I was
a kid, that's not how this went. No, it would
have been like the, oh, I'm having a bad memory
night. It would have been like the Bill Cosby
skit. Dad is great. Gives us the chocolate cake.
And then mom's, how are you getting that chocolate
cake? That's a funny skit. Yes. We're not in
any way endorsing Bill Cosby. No, no, no, no,
no, no. Not his choices. But his stand -up was
really funny. His stand -up was spectacular.
And that was arguably Bill Cosby himself. That
was arguably, in my opinion, his best. Yeah.
Daddy's great. Why don't you tell us about, because
you've got a really cool, like how you did this
with. uh garrett especially like you had like
yeah milestones at various ages milestones uh
we we don't really have rites of passages not
in america no in america i mean the only one
that i can think of really that everybody seems
to do is walking across the stage when you're
in high school and nobody really even thinks
of it as that no but it is this like shared like
you know That was a thing. You're done with this
and you're on to the next phase. You had to dress
differently for it. Everybody's there for it
sometimes. I chose 13, 16, 18, and 21 and turned
those into intentional trips out of town. Every
time we've gone to Dallas, generally it has involved
a Stars game. Which is always fun. I'm not really
a big hockey guy. Boys Aquarium. Is that what
they're calling it now? The Boys Aquarium for
hockey? Women going to hockey games to watch
hockey players. Okay. I'm just saying. Evidently,
there's especially a stretching routine that
women are very interested in. Okay. News to me.
Yeah. News to me. I'm just saying, having to
be on the social medias for this podcast has
been... Eye -opening, apparently. I mean... Wow.
I've never wanted my eyes closed more. Okay,
good to know. Good to know. But yeah, so we've
kind of chose... I kind of chose those as milestones.
Yeah. 13, you're becoming a teenager. Obviously,
puberty kicks in. Yeah. That's part of that.
Conversation in that trip, girls, things of that
nature, changes in the body. You're starting
your journey to become a man. The decisions that
you make over the next seven to 10 years are
going to essentially determine the man that you're
going to become. That doesn't mean that God can't
miraculously work through you and significantly
change you. Oh, he does all the time. But generally
speaking. It's not that your actions don't matter.
Correct. But generally speaking, the next. Seven
to ten years, they're really going to define
the man that you're going to be. That's right.
So make these choices wisely. And so with that,
in trying to give him something to remember,
I chose various swords from Lord of the Rings.
Right. So when he was 13, I gave him Sting. And
in kind of borrowing from the Legend of Zelda,
it's dangerous to go alone. Yeah. This is your
sword to take with you. Love it. As you start
your journey, there's monsters out there. You
need to be armed and aware. And then 16, that
was kind of that next big milestone. You can
drive. You're in high school. And a lot of temptations.
Absolutely. The whole girl thing is in full effect.
And all the struggles and challenges that come
with that. Women. Yeah, am I right? Am I right?
And so for that one, I gave him the Morgul blade.
Yeah. And the whole idea that, you know, one
poke of that in the movie, you're hosed. You
are turning into... You're turning into a ringwraith,
end of story, move on. But turned it into a symbolism
for sin. Yeah. And if you dabble in too much
sin, you get poked too many times, God's going
to go, okay, I will give you exactly what you
want. Yeah. Here you go. So being mindful of
we're all sinful, we're all going to commit sin,
but there are choices that we make in terms of
intentional sin of, yeah, I'm okay with this.
It's not that big a deal. So how many times are
you going to let yourself be poked before it's
too late? Yeah, it's numb and you don't care.
You get used to it. Absolutely. And then at 18,
gave him Thorin Oakenshield sword. 18, you're
now legally an adult. You're going to be viewed
as a man in most people's eyes. So as you take
a man's journey, you need a man's sword and not
the sword of a child from 13. And so coming up.
Here on February 2nd and 3rd, we'll do for his
21st. And for that one, I'm giving him Strider's
Sword. As you're fully a man, you're fully stepping
out into this journey, and it's your own. You
are on the hook for all your choices. Your mom
and dad can't protect you. You make a bad choice.
It's all yours. And if you make a bad legal choice,
it's truly all yours. Yeah. I can't step in.
Correct. There's nothing that I can do. I can't
save you. I can't. I will stand with you. Sure.
But I can't convince the judge. Well, even that.
Boys will be boys, judge. Just let him go. Like
I will be in the gallery. Correct. I can't even
stand next to you. Correct. Yeah. There's nothing
that we can do except be there as support. That
was nice today. To be able to stand with Cade.
Sure. I'm right behind him the entire time all
that's happening. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. So that's
kind of the whole idea. And then two, the sword
is a symbol of the word of God. Yeah. And so
all of that is tightly woven into what we do
and what we discuss. And you hope as you do these
that. It's sinking in. It has an impact. Right.
And then eventually you see the fruit of that
play out. And then he would eventually go on.
Someday he's going to be dad. Yeah. Unless Jesus
comes back first. Wouldn't that be great? Yes,
it would. Either of us are against grandchildren
by any stretch of the imagination. Correct. But
the idea that he would someday be the dad and
then he could learn from this. Shape it, mold
it his own way, and carry that on with his own
kids. For sure. And then the last, well, I guess
there's technically two more. The night before
he gets married, I want to give him Anduril,
the king's sword. Yeah. Because he's becoming
the king of his own kingdom, so to speak. Yeah.
King of his own castle. Every Englishman is king
of his own. Castle. Home. Home, something. Castle
is his home. I can't remember how that meant.
But then for me, I would have, whoop, bumped
the mic. If that made it through in the recording.
But I would have Glamdring. Yeah. And then someday
when I kick the bucket and get called home, that
sword would be passed to him. And the symbolism
behind that is that, you know, now you're the
man of the family and people are going to be
looking to you for wisdom and support and to
carry them forward. Yeah. There's not many people
that I know that are more wizardly than you on
that. that realm so well good job bud so uh but
borrowed it from the book um raising a modern
day knight yeah and i know chris um chris lake
pastor of the church here has mentioned what
he's done with his own kids in particular and
kind of yeah he has these discussions and here's
here's something to have to remember yeah rites
of passage i feel like our our uh we don't we
don't have them very much In the West, in America.
And so because we don't understand, I wouldn't
even say that. It's not that we don't understand.
We haven't been taught to value them. We haven't
been trained to do them. And so anything that
you can do along those lines, I know it's different
for daughters. Your daughter may be more interested
in makeup and things like that. Correct. Your
son, especially, it's easy to kind of pick out
the thing that he's interested in and try to
find a way to help him understand the steps to
adulthood, the steps to responsibility, the steps
to accountability, and all of that stuff. you
know initially you're being kind of fed and walked
through this and at some point you've got to
take the reins of your own life correct inside
of that and you know i i love the way that you
do it so i'm sure if you ask really nicely you
know send a an email to beer and gear podcast
at gmail .com and chris would If you ask really
nicely and maybe send a beer, he would give you
his list of how he does it, and maybe that'll
make it more easy for somebody. Or go pick up
Raising a Modern Day Knight. Yep, it's a good
book. Great book. Highly recommend. Read through
it. Highly recommend. And even though that book
is kind of geared towards a dad raising his son,
there's a lot of principles that translate to
a dad with a daughter. Yeah. And so there's no
reason why you couldn't learn from it. and have
that. Now, in our situation, I've kind of handed
that off to Michelle. For a daughter. For a daughter.
But there are some conversations that I've had
with Victoria. Yeah. You know, and I have to
be very intentional in how I talk to her because
she's hyper emotional. Shocker, she's a lady.
Don't know what you're talking about. How could
she be based on emotions? Never heard of emotions
before in my life. Yes. Okay, that's not true.
I am an emotional person. Yes. But when, they're
having some of these conversations i talked to
michelle and she's like well you can't say that
to her like i never said i was you get to have
the opportunity of translating please translate
this into girl speak correct so uh they have
a trip coming up and i've kind of talked to that
um to her and like You know, here's the things
that I see. And here's the things that she needs
to know when she needs to understand. And she's
a junior in high school. She's got her senior
year coming up. I don't want to hear that. I
know. I know. Tori's still 10 years old. Oh,
yeah. Oh, I wish. I wish. So, but the whole idea
that she needs to be focused on her future. Right.
She does have a boyfriend. Nice kid. But still.
But as a dad, I'm like, get out of here, man.
What are you doing? And it's like, she's got
to be intentional about her future. She needs
to make the decisions that are best for her future,
which may or may not be best for their current
relationship. That's true. And that's a struggle
and that's a challenge. And what does that look
like? You know, as a dad. No dude, I don't care
who he is, is ever going to be good enough for
your little girl. No. He could be the most godly
man in the world. He could have an amazing profession
that could provide in ways that I've never been
able to. He's still a chump. Yeah, allow her
to be a true stay -at -home mom, raise their
kids. Or what she wants. Raise them up godly.
Yeah. He's still a bum. Bum. You're a bum. Get
out. Sorry. You only have one thing on your mind.
You're not going to get it here. Move on. Move
on, dude. Uh, you see the shotgun show. Remember
they do fly faster at curfew. So, um, man, I
saw, I'd never watched, uh, is it justified?
That's the, um, series that has the, um, cowboy
cop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Raylan. Yeah.
Something. Anyway, uh, He said, pay attention.
He flicked like he racked his pistol and the
shell comes out and he grabs it and throws it
at the guy. He said, the next one comes faster.
I was like, oh, geez. Yeah. Shots fired. One
of these days, I'm going to get to say something
cool like that. Yes. But Michelle gets to kind
of have those conversations with her, and that's
great. She should hear it from her mom. There's
certain things that she shouldn't hear from her
dad. Sure. There's some things that she needs
to hear from dad. Sure, but she'll receive certain
things better from mom. From mom than from dad,
yes. Because dad is just dad, and he just doesn't
understand, and he doesn't know what it means
to be a lady. You're right, I don't. You're absolutely
right. I know what it means to be a man. But
that doesn't invalidate where I'm coming from.
Just need you to know, I know these little twerps
better than you do. Oh, boy, do I ever. I was
there. I know. And I'm not saying, like, I'm
not even making the cliche about the, like, they
only want one thing. That's not what I'm talking
about. They're just morons. They're stupid. They
are. They're self -centered. Yes. They don't
know how to think about anybody but themselves.
Correct. It'll come, but so help me. Yeah. It's
going to take 30 more years. I was that guy until
25 for sure. At a minimum. At a minimum. Obviously,
I've still got some elements of that. We all
do. Yeah, you've got to grow out of it. Well,
we hope to grow out of it in time, but sometimes
some things linger. Yeah. You know, I mean, whether
it's tools or cars or whatever it may be, guys
have the things that they want and they don't
necessarily want to give up. Yeah. And I think
even like, even if you've figured out the, like,
I don't, I don't get the things that I want.
They're not the biggest priority. It's the, like
the moments for me, I don't know about everybody
else. It's the moments that like you, you've
given up a lot or you've, uh endured a lot it's
like i deserve to be i deserve a little treat
as my wife would say i'm i deserve a little treat
yes and she's thinking like like a dairy queen
blizzard yes and i'm thinking that five thousand
dollar thing that i have not spent money on because
i'm so proud of myself or not yes Falling into
that temptation. Hey, I'm not asking for the
$2 ,500 jointer. I'm asking for the $800 jointer.
It's used. See how magnanimous I am. See what
I've done here. It's such a good idea. Am I not
generous? Am I not generous? Oh my gosh, that
drove it home. That little Commodus reference
there was great. Am I not merciful? Am I not
generous? I hate that the dragon's milk is gone.
Yeah, why is the rum always gone? I just took
the last drink. I did. I had a moment with my
wife the other day, and she didn't get it, which
was really hard on me because when you make a
joke with your wife and she doesn't catch the
joke, it's not a good joke. But I made my kids
drink all the Dr. Peppers in the house, and I
was like, why is the rum gone? And she didn't
understand what I was talking about. You don't
like rum. Sure, but it's a metaphor. It's a metaphor.
It's a metaphor for life. For life, for all of
these things. Life, the universe, and everything.
Dr. Pepper. It's the best stuff on earth, man.
Not 42. No, no, no, no, no. I do genuinely hope,
and I know I'm... I'm wrong, but I do genuinely
hope that someday when we were in the new heaven
and the new earth, that the river of life flows
of Dr. Pepper. That would be absolutely amazing.
Somehow it'll be more refreshing than that. And
that's hard for me to believe. You know what
I mean? Yes. On this side of eternity, it's very
hard to imagine. Like there's a tree that the
fruit is different every season or it's like
a new. I was saying like every month, but I could
be, I could be wrong, but yeah, it's a new, like,
it's not just new. It's like a new, like a brand
new flavor. New, new, new. And it's like, like
new Coke. Only if it could just not be new Coke,
that would be great. Yes. So yeah. Yeah. Anyway,
that was a little spiritual dive for. Red Revelations.
We very deeply tapped into politics at the beginning.
And now, so that was the third rail at the beginning.
And now we've grasped the other third rail, religion.
I really want, there was a, gosh, I can't remember
which of the comedians it was. It was either
Jim Gaffigan or one of these newer guys that
I can't remember his name. Got long blonde hair.
Anyway, they said, I really want everybody to
be comfortable, which is why I want to talk to
you about my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And
I'm like, I really do want you to tell us about
your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, but I understand
what you're saying. Yes, I see what you have
accomplished here. Everybody almost got up and
left because they're just so uncomfortable right
now. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. I feel like it was Jim
Gaffigan because they made the joke about the
Pope being like, easy, man. Even I leave work
at work. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Yes, yes. Aye, aye,
aye. What a world. Oh, for sure. What a time
to be a penguin. Yes. Yeah. You said you had
some show. Yes, I do. I do. News. Announcements.
We're obviously not getting into this bottle.
Yeah, we're not going to make it to delirium.
That's okay. We don't want to be too delirious
on the way home. Not to be too revealing, but
we have re -recorded half of this show. Yeah.
Unfortunately, yes. Whoops. Yes, so. Stuff happens.
Those of you who are listening, we'll see if
you figure out where the cut is. I'll do the
best that I can to hide it. Do you know where
we stopped? Yes, indeed. It's 10 o 'clock. Do
you know where your children are? Man, the fact
that boomers had to be reminded that they had
kids. Where are your kids, man? Listen, you have
so medicated yourself. Lay off the alcohol, man.
Where are your kids? Vietnam, PTSD, medicated
yourself. Absolutely. You don't remember that
you have children. Mama, get out of the Calgon.
Where are your kids? Where are your kids? Yes.
So, yeah, two announcements real quick in relation
to the show. Okay. I think these are really good
things. I bit the bullet and boost her back.
Oh, man. Yeah, I bit the bullet. I went back
with Albie Hubb. But I did the hosted Albie,
not the self -hosted. Okay. So hopefully there
will never again be any shenanigans about, oh,
your Albie went offline. Oh, it's been offline
for so long. Your channels. Thank you. Channels
are gone. You need to pay money to reopen your
channels. Those little jerks. Yeah, I bit the
bullet. We're back. So thank you for biting that
bullet. Basically it's, we're bringing back the
Jason court segment of the show for the post
part. Uh, but if you're listening and you are
using a podcasting 2 .0 app, you can now boost
the show. And if you're not using a podcast 2
.0 app, shame on you. Yeah. You should switch.
Give us a, get off the legacy Spotify and Apple
podcast apps and get into a podcasting 2 .0 app.
I know it's easier. I know it is. I don't...
You know what? Strike that. It's not easier.
Just listen on a different app. Yes, absolutely.
Chapters, transcripts, boosts, eventually...
Artwork. Yeah, artwork for every chapter. Yeah,
I'm a big fan of visual. I love it. Not so much
on the phone, but it is nice to see. But when
you're in your car, and you're listening, and
that artwork switches on the screen on your car.
It's a big deal. That's kind of cool. I kind
of like it. It's nice to be able to look down
and be like, oh, that's the label of beer I'm
looking for. Or that's the product that they're
talking about. Okay, I can get this. And here's
the thing that we've probably never discussed.
In those chapters, specifically the ones on beer,
on your phone or your computer, that image is
clickable. Yes, it is. And it takes you to the
site. Have we really not? I don't know that we
ever have, to be honest. That's a big deal, yeah.
No, you can take it. You can join us in reading
the blurb about the beer. So if you click on
that image of that particular beer, it takes
you to the site of the company that makes the
beer. Order that bad boy. Sure. You put some
of them you can order direct. And some of the
products. We try to put the links there for the
product as well, whether we've talked about a
RODECaster, the RODECaster video. Which is still
not quite where we want it to be. No, we'll see
what happens. But we're going to talk about the
core. Hopefully soon in the future. Soon in the
future. That's kind of the fun thing. But the
other thing that comes with podcasting 2 .0 apps,
which dovetails into the other item, is live.
Yes. I have resurrected my attempt at live. Nice.
I have signed up with Linode, which is a part
of Akamai. Okay. To run a very, very minimal
server that will run a software called Owncast.
Owncast. hls stream okay which is what's needed
for live yes uh it's not just good for audio
it's also good for video nice so laying that
future foundation soon as we can get this so
um i'm going to play around system work it out
correct i'm going to play around with it locally
on a pc at my house get comfortable with it and
then spin it up in Linode, which would make it
in the cloud. And then we will do what we need
to do here, which will probably require a computer.
But we will take the output of the RODECaster,
send that up to our own cast server at Linode,
and then that would then stream live. And so
this is, again, why you need a Podcasting 2 .0
app. Not going to get it. It will notify you
when we go live. Wouldn't that be nice? And you
click it and you're in and you can listen to
the show live. As it's happening. As it's happening.
No edits, no redos. Which will be a full week
ahead of everybody else. Correct. You're going
to get to catch it early because we generally
release the Tuesday following whatever day we
record. Yeah. Today happens to be a Wednesday.
But it will release on Tuesday of next week.
But yeah, you can listen in live. And this is
where the boosts get interesting. Because you
could boost while we're live. We can see your
boost. We can see the message that you include
in the boost. And we now can communicate with
you live. Yeah. Wouldn't that be great? Which
changes everything. Yeah. We're not just talking
to each other. Which is fine. We may be talking
to you. For the foreseeable future, it could
be us chatting with Jason. Sorry, Jason. So we
need more of you to get involved. Jason knows
where we're recording this. If he wants to come
talk to us, he can just come talk to us. But
I'm looking forward eventually to the day that
we're sitting here having this conversation and
we get a near real -time boost from Jason. Wouldn't
that be fun? And he's interacting with something
that we just said. I'm looking forward to the
day that we have a near real -time. with somebody
who we don't know. Correct. Yeah. Correct. So,
but with this. Somebody in Amsterdam. That would
be intriguing. Or Australia. Somebody around
the world, yes. You know how hard it was to finally
get that Australian hit on the downloads. It
was important, yeah. It completed the set. We
got all of the continents where people are most
likely downloading podcasts. Come on, Oceania.
Yes. There's still no Antarctica. Correct. Those
penguins are just really... They just don't listen
to podcasts. Anti -beer and gear is what they
are. Yeah, they are. But eventually what could
happen with the live is the magic of the Rodecaster
Video S. Or some other product. We could be streaming
video in real time to YouTube or whatever. Other
platform we want to send that out to. Not to
be contrarian here, but Rode, get your stuff
together. Correct. Come on, guys. You got to
help us out here. But the idea that we're bringing
this show to new platforms that will hopefully
grow the show. Right. Because in a perfect world,
we'd love this to become our day job. I mean,
wouldn't that be awesome? I'd be all down for
that. Yeah. Get into product reviews. Yeah. And
more of that. And then kind of let this. go and
then yeah we're literally getting paid to shoot
the breeze consulting on tech if you're not a
part of the solution might as well be part of
the problem yes so that would be amazing um we'll
see what happens with that over time so but that's
kind of the two big announcements on the show
is boosts are officially back so jason you got
your segment back We're looking for you to send
the boost before the next show. Come on. And
if you don't send a boost, we're going to ride
you pretty hard. Send some cheese. Yeah, send
some cheese. But we might still give you a hard
time because you didn't send the boost. Papa's
cheese and boost. And the boost, yes. We've upped
the ante. I have recorded this show with Papa's
cheese now. I don't know that I'm really feeling
the same about the show without it. Without it,
true. True. And if I hadn't just had dinner.
This show brought to you by Papa's Cheese. Papa's
Cheese. Yeah. Dot com. Dot com. Dot net. Wait,
which one did you buy? What's that? Didn't you
buy one? Papa's Cheese? No, I did not. He did.
Oh, he did? He did. I don't know what domain.
Dot edu. He very well may have been able to get
Papa's Cheese dot com. I don't know. Papa's Cheese
dot info. Dot info, yes. Papa's Cheese dot cheese.
There are a lot of different dots now. Yeah.
It's not as fun anymore. Papa cheese dot life.
Dot show. Dot show. That wouldn't be bad. Anyway.
So, but yeah. Yeah. Who knows where the show
goes? Even if the show does not become an exit
strategy, that's okay with me. We'll keep, we'll
keep, we'll have fun. Still fun to do it. It's
always good to have a reason to drink beer. Drink
beer and talk to you. I'm in. Talk and chat.
Thanks, brother. I enjoyed it, man. Always good
to talk to you. Yeah, good seeing you again,
John. See ya. See ya. Is it always this good?