Hey, Chris. Hey, John. How are you? I'm much
better right now. You'd be even better if that
hardware was working. Yeah. We'll talk about
that later. Hey, Jason. Hello. Nice to have you
here with us. Yeah. Thank you. I hear you just
got back from somewhere. I was up in the mitten,
as we say. Up in the mitten. Yep. Michigan, shaped
like a mitten. I was thinking about going up
in the mitten at the end of this week, but the...
Flight prices are too high. What were you going
to do in the mitten? I was going to go to a funeral.
Oh. Yeah. All right. Our friend Chad's grandmother
died. Oh, okay. And right now she's from Wisconsin.
Well, not from Wisconsin. She's lived in Wisconsin
for a really long time. Yeah. But she's been
in the mitten for a little while. Yeah. And that's
where they're going to bury her, I think. Gotcha.
Okay. Anyway, not to Debbie Downer that whole
thing. I did the same thing while I was up there
as well. Oh, okay. Well, it happens. As one does
when they go into the mitten. I guess. Just bury
somebody. Cool. Anyway, so can I be presumptuous
here and just ask, what did you bring us? Oh,
they were going to start right off at the beginning.
Well, it's where we, this is where we, you should
know of all people, there's a format here. I
do. I do know there's a format here. I was, I
was playing, uh, you know, the moonshine runner.
What are they called? What is the name of those
guys? Yeah. I was doing that for Chris with beer
running shine. Yeah. Cross straight line across
state lines. I'm just saying a real Dukes of
hazard. So I did bring a beer to share. Nice.
Yes. One from a brewery in Holland, Michigan.
Holland, Michigan. That isn't New Holland Brewing.
In a bag called Taste of Texas. Well, it's insulated.
That way I can keep things cold. I appreciate
what you're doing for us here. So here we are.
That's funny. This is a brewery that doesn't
distribute outside of Michigan. Okay. At all.
So this is not something we can get around here.
No, it's not. Not from around here. Okay. Okay.
Okay. Thank you. This is exciting. It's called
Big Lake Brewing. Yes. Not brewery. Brewing.
Big Lake Brewing. Double fudgy. Double fudgy
oatmeal stout. Barrel -aged. Barrel -aged. It
is barrel -aged, so, you know. Yeah. Maybe the
bourbon will drown out the oatmeal. They have
two versions of this. They have the non -barrel
aged version. Why would you even drink that?
Which comes in around a 5 ABV. Yeah. This guy
is, this pint. This pint. They come in pints?
They come in pints. This pint is, I don't even
see the ABV. 11. Oh, there it is. It goes to
11. It goes to 11. Yes. And it's an 8 IBU, so
we are not going to. feel this going down at
all. Double the deliciousness with our barrel
-aged oatmeal stout dripping with hints of oatmeal,
chocolate, and German malts for a decadent dose
of body. I don't see how you're reading. It's
not my eyes. It's brown on brown, guys. I don't
know how you're supposed to be able to read that.
It's goldish. You have to be from the mitten,
maybe. Yeah. They should have used that. You
need the light. That, like, gold. Yes. This is
a well -lit room. It's not that. Decadent dose
of body and slight sweetness. Well, there you
go. I want to know how they got the IBU down
to eight. Yeah, I mean, that feels like it's.
That feels like a lie. One, two, three. Yep.
Oh, fail. Oh, Chris. You didn't get it? No. Got
it that time. Well, the good news is it's not
a nitro, so you didn't just ruin something. That's
true. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Oh, wow.
Jason's going to have to wait for a while because
he poured his. He poured a milkshake. It does
have a milkshake -ish kind of smell to it. That
is a dessert beer. Don't give it away just yet.
I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm still breathing it in.
So you should definitely smell that. Oh my goodness.
You weren't kidding about the chocolate milkshake
though. That's what it smells like to me. That's
what it looks like in your glass. All right,
here we go. Yeah. Oh my gosh. There's some chocolate
in there. There's more sugar in that than I feel
like. Than there should be. Wow. That's how they
killed the IBU. That's how they killed the IBU.
They were like, listen. Some people use sugar
in their process, but we really use. It's like
the difference between sweet tea and other places.
And then like you go to McAllister's and you
see them pour. Yes. The like five gallon thing
of it. Yeah. You got some crackers over there?
Yeah. He's got a... I got a different treat.
He's got another secret. There's... My dad has
been in the restaurant business for years. Okay.
And he... I don't know when it happened. It's
probably in my teen years. Mixed up a cheese
spread of his own making. Concoction. And we
always joked that it was something he could sell.
The grandkids liked it so much, whenever they
came over, they'd say... Is there any Papa's
cheese? So I brought, so you're selling Papa's
cheese, selling Papa's cheese. I just brought
some with me. What does it take for us to buy
Papa's cheese? But this could be the beginning
of an exit strategy. I am just saying, how do
we mass produce Papa's cheese? I don't know yet.
Okay, well let's work on that. The same way we
mass produce that, um, beer and gear stout. Yeah.
Oh my God. Exit strategy. Yeah. But we actually
have like a recipe for this. Well, we can come
up with a recipe for a beer. I'm not saying we
can't. We just don't have it yet. And I have
a chaser. A chaser. That is a very sweet beer.
This is going to be a very exciting episode.
Oh, look at that. Dragon's Milk Reserve, baby.
I decided to share. I really appreciate that.
Yes. I will pay you what I owe you. Which is?
I don't know. Whatever a beer costs. Not that
one beer. Holy cow. How much was that? Save room.
So there was a, I know you talked about on the
last episode, the dragon's milk had a collaboration
with dungeon, the dragons, and they made a beer
called the D 20 and it was a 20 % ABV 20%. I
told somebody 50%, 20 % comes in a 22 ounce wax
sealed bottle. Okay. See, for some reason, when
you told me the price, I thought it was a, a
16 ounce bottle or something. Well, 22 wasn't
much more than 16. Yeah. But I was thinking like
a can. No, this is a bottle. Okay. And it, uh,
at the pub where they make it was 49 99. Oh yeah.
That's a, I was telling Chris, that's a, you
know, my sister likes to talk about sipping tequilas.
This is too nice to just take a shot. This is
a sipping tequila. So that's a sipping beer.
And you've got to finish it because once you
crack it open, you've committed. You can't put
that back in the bottle. No. So it's a whole
day beer. So, well, I mean, the triple mash is
18 and some change on the ABV. Yeah. Which you've
sampled on the show. Yes. It was really nice.
If I wasn't in a rush to go to all the places
I was going that day, I probably would have just
sat down and tried some because they serve it
in a five ounce glass at the bar. For $20. For
$10. You can get five ounces of this for $25.
Yeah. We feel like that's fair. But then I went
to the package store to find, well, that's where
I found this. And they had the D20 at the package
store. It was $60 a bottle. When you say package
store, you're not talking about Pier 1. No, I'm
talking about in Texas, they would call it what?
Drive -thru liquor store. There's no drive -thru
liquor stores in Michigan. There are here. But
they just call them party stores or packaged
liquor stores. What? Yeah. So just like a convenience
store. It was called King's Cove in Holland,
Michigan. And all they sell is beer. I mean,
it's a beer wine liquor store. Yeah. It's a beer
wine. It's a liquor store. Don't church it up.
It's a liquor store. But it's called a package
store. Package store. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're
buying it in a package. And it's the same thing
when we've been in Georgia. I think that means
something different in California. Different
states have very weird rules about stuff. In
Tennessee, I don't think you can sell alcohol
in a grocery store. So there's always the wine
stores next to the grocery store. We like to
joke that Smith County is moist. It's not wet.
Because we were dry for the longest time. When
we first came. I mean, you grew up in dry Smith
County. But at some point. I don't know. Not
20 years ago. Not even 20 years ago. It became
moist. Yes. And you could sell beer and wine.
Yep. At the grocery stores of all places. Yeah.
Anyway. It was a big deal. Because you can't
have liquor stores. Right. You're not allowed
to sell it. My hometown was dry until I think
the year before I moved to Texas. You got to
go Coffee City for that. Yeah. I don't think
that that's right. In the north, I feel like
if you are going to have bitter winters, you're
not allowed to be dry. Well, our town was dry
completely, and our county was dry on Sundays.
Well, okay, that's still a thing. But that has
changed since then, and the town I'm in is no
longer dry. I think we can get beer on Sundays.
You just can't get the hard liquor. Yeah, that's
true. Liquor stores are not open on Sundays in
the counties around. Smith County. Correct. The
old church ladies would have a fit. Yes, they
would. Excuse me. This might not be your thing.
There are occasionally people who don't like
it. But they're wrong. I would say they're wrong.
But nobody likes a quitter. Cademan doesn't care
for it. Really? Which is intriguing. Yeah. Never
quit on your beer. Never quit on your cheese
dip. Hold on. You mean this soda we're drinking?
Yes, the milkshake. It's a milkshake. It's good,
though. It's like a milkshake and a Dr. Pepper.
You know, my father -in -law would refer to it
as barley pop. Oh, my gosh. Barley pop. This
smells amazing. ASMR. It is really good. You
will not stop eating it. At least if you like
it like most people do. Yeah, we're in trouble.
Okay, Jason's dad. Mr. Court, I have a proposal.
I will send you money. You just have to put some
of this. No, it's going to have to be this big.
The Yoplait original thing that you sent home.
Is that a court container? No, I made that. You
made this? Yeah. All right, Mr. Court. But I
can't claim that I invented it. I got a deal
for you. I will give you money. There are some
elements in that that... Oh my gosh, it just
smells so good. Like if you try... I know you
have because you haven't been on the show. Give
me the crackers. I'd like to... I'm curious how
it is on pretzels. Have you had the crab dip
at Fresh? There's notes of that flavor in there.
Minus the crab. But it's whatever else they put
in the dip. It's seven herbs and seasonings.
Or eleven. Don't give numbers. I don't even know
if that's accurate. There are people who are
going to try to make this. As soon as we start
selling it. It's good on all sorts of crackers.
I like it on... grilled pork chops. I've not
put it on a hamburger yet, but it's good on some
grilled white meat. You know, chicken, pork.
Moving on. But I've never tried it on a pretzel.
I would think it would be all right. John's not
going to let go. He took over the whole container.
I'm sorry. Did y 'all want some of this? Well,
congratulations, guys, on 50. Yeah, that's right.
We didn't even think about that. This is episode
50. Oh, you got. This is a heck of a way to.
I need the. We need sound effects. Crickets.
Oh, sorry. Come on, come on, come on, come on.
I'm going to get over here real quick. Where's
it at? Oh, that's muted. 50 whole episodes. 50
whole episodes. I wasn't going to show up just
for nothing. That's right. There's something
going on here. But if Jason wasn't here, that
would be terrible. I have missed the ability
to send boostograms. Yeah. I know that's kind
of a little bit of a salt in the wound type thing.
That is a salt in the wound. But there's cheese
dip. We've got to get that going again. Well,
the cheese dip is like a salve on the wound.
Yeah, Pops is making this endurable right now.
I would know he's eating it all. Yeah, I know.
Mr. ASMR. I just got one more cracker. Just give
me a second. Okay, I'm going to take this out
of reach. He starts shoving his finger down in
there. That would be bad. Fine, you can have
it. I take it you like it. It's so good. See,
I share with the group. I got to try the pretzel.
Oh, my goodness. It's good. Well, that is not
what I expected to be doing this episode. This
is the food episode. I'm glad I'm bringing surprises.
I mean, for real. What is it that Caveman doesn't
like? Is it a consistency thing? I think one
of the ingredients kind of gets to him. Okay.
Although I don't think he would care much about
it if he didn't know what it was. Although he's
pretty good at deciphering some of those flavors,
though, too. So I don't know that that's actually
true. He can probably pick it out. That has been
a... I want my son, my children, to enjoy the
food that I enjoy. I want them to partake of
the goodness of whatever. But Micah just like
he can't with certain foods. Yep. And I try really
hard to be like, no, you're really going to like
this. It's going to be great. And it just doesn't
go down that way. He just can't. He can't. And
especially if he's convinced himself that he's
not going to like it. Yeah. Usually because of
the way that it looks. But if he's convinced
himself that he's not going to like it, it is
really hard to overcome that. Yeah. Yeah. Which
is sad. But also, more for me. Yeah. True. Hard
to argue with that. We had that happen with mashed
potatoes. One bad experience. And the potatoes
were ruined for about 10 years or more. Wow.
But it has turned around, finally. Mashed potatoes
are great. I mean, butter. Yes. Lots of butter.
With cheese. With cheese. Yeah, you do like the
loaded mashed potatoes that they do at some steakhouses
now because, I don't know, baked potatoes are
too complicated. What is that? Or the twice -baked
potato. Oh, twice -baked potatoes are kind of
ridiculous. My sister -in -law makes executive
potatoes, and they are delicious. Look it up.
So good. I will have to. I like the auger. Or
however it's pronounced. Auger? Yeah. I don't
know. We're in East Texas. Cheese, potatoes.
Don't expect. When I was a kid, it was like,
it was the all awful potatoes, but they were
so good. So good. Gooey cheese potatoes. Booshy,
yeah. Are we just like all hungry or something?
I mean, it must be. Did you eat? Yeah, because
I knew what I was going to be drinking. I didn't
eat. Because I've been fasting today and I'm
like. It would not be wise to drink this on an
empty stomach. Yeah, I didn't know what we were
drinking, but I wouldn't have been able to. I
was too busy. Doing stuff? Doing stuff. It's
fine. Well, fill up. I'm going to take some of
those pretzels if you just hand them out. I think
I prefer the crackers in the cheese, but the
pretzels are pretty good. Yeah, I think it does
match better with the crackers. It's the butter,
isn't it? That is not an ingredient in the cheese.
It's just the fact that it's crackers. No. I
bet there's cheese in it, though. There is. I
bet there's milk in it. In the cheese. In the
cheese. There better be. I didn't add milk to
it. If this cheese doesn't have milk in it, then
we're, what are we, Velveeta? Impossible cheese.
Oh, no, thank you. Although I don't think I can
say that. That's like the trademark brand. Really?
Yeah, it probably is. An impossible cheese? Using
the word impossible in front of it. The improbable.
Improbable cheese. Yes. It's improbably delicious.
We didn't expect this cheese. It is good. It's
good. What he's not going to do, however, though,
is share the recipe. Not presently. It's an ancient
Chinese secret. So in the modern era, what's
the first thing you would do with a business
idea? Keep it secret? Keep it safe. No, apart
from that. You might actually change what your
product is called if you can't procure this one
thing. What is it, Chris? I'm supposed to know
it? Well, there's trademarking, but you might
actually do a search for available URLs before
naming a product. That's a good idea. Yeah. So
yeah, step one was to procure popperscheese .com.
Oh, yes, true. Which has happened. Correct? It
has. I'm telling you, this is the beginning of
the exit strategy. Well, now we just got to make
a, it just doesn't resolve to anything because
there's nothing there yet. LLC in, what is it?
Delaware. Delaware or, is it Montana? Or Wyoming,
one of the other ones. I know Delaware's. There's
Delaware and there's another one. Delaware's
got some weird rules. That's exactly right. Allow
you to cheat your employees out of all their
money. Yep. If your business moves to Delaware,
get out. Quit. Yeah. We're not going to build
it there. Take your pension. Yeah. Get out fast.
Anyway. So we've covered the beer. Sort of. We've
covered the first beer. I'm kind of going through
my hit list of how this show plays out when I
listen to it. Well, the dynamic changes when
there's another person here. That's true. It
for sure does. That's true. But we still have
to get to the bread and butter of this show.
Well, no, that failed. We have crunchy bread
and we have liquid. Sorry, crunchy and liquid
bread. Yes. We were going to talk about this
RODECaster Video S that I got, but I got it at
4 o 'clock today, and I started working madly
trying to get it to be up for this show. At about
4 o 'clock today for myself, my Chicago Bears
NFC North Championship arrived. Oh. Yeah. Look
at that. A little pre -celebration. But no, then
we went and laid an egg against Detroit. Good
Lord. So. So I guess you want to talk about the
book. Optimism never dies. I almost said optimum
never dies. And it sure does. I did the other
day. Yeah, because of the gunshot. That's what
I'm hearing. That's what I heard too. Okay. Like.
How hard was it for us not to post at that moment
so somebody finally did it? I want to know what
they shot. They walked into the store. Did they
walk into a server room? Did they shoot fiber
out on the pole? I was wondering if they shot
it at the pole. Just take it down. That's probably
what happened, but I had other visions in my
head. Shoot that bird, Tommy. Bam. Why is that
sparking? Well, if it was fiber, it wouldn't
do that either. Whatever it was, it was pretty
serious because it was down for almost 12 hours,
if not a little bit more. Gunshot wounds are
very serious, Chris, especially to fiber, as
we know. Yeah, but fiber is an easy fix. But
I just want to say out loud that guns don't kill
fiber. People kill fiber. Have we ever fixed
fiber in under 12 hours? I mean, you're saying
it's an easy fix, but. I mean, easy, yes, but
fast, maybe not. We could certainly do it. I
agree. There has to be some, like, searching
for the gun or gunshot, sorry. Well, I mean,
they have, I would like to think that they have
better tools to more quickly diagnose where the
problem occurred. That's cute. That's a great
assumption. They should with as much money as
we pay them. Oh, I agree. They should know in
a moment's notice, oh, problem there, go fix
it. I realize the challenge is getting the guy
who's off to now come in and do the work. Because
I'm not doing that. But boss, you said I could
go home. Yep. Yeah, anyway. I guess in fairness,
they probably, if it was fiber, they had to fuse
far more strands than we've ever had to fuse.
That's for sure. Because they were probably,
depending on where it is in the plant, hundreds
of strands, depending on what they do and how
they do and where. And we don't have that much
in any one run. And they might be fusing ribbon.
True. Ribbon. Versus loose tube. Yep. Yep. Those
are words. They mean something. They mean things.
They mean things. Yes, they do. And pretzels
are crunchy. Yes. Pretzels are good. Saw a guy
splicing fiber the other day. It didn't take
very long. How many was he splicing? Just two.
Around here somewhere? At an office. Fresh install.
It was great. Mostly because that little machine
is so cool. If it wasn't for all the Wi -Fi,
it'd be fibered to the desk. Yeah. Well, the
way the next batch of Wi -Fi is going to go,
you may as well call it fiber to the disk with
the throughput that they're achieving. What are
you saying? That wireless is definitely exceeding
the realistic throughput of a copper drop and
is about to hit pretty darn close to realistically
somewhere between 5 and 10 gig. At what point
is the brain cancer detectably growing? Oh, it's
already happening. It's already happening. I'm
convinced that Wi -Fi has contributed to it,
without a doubt. Are you talking about scientifically
measurable growth, or are you talking like visually
measurable growth? All of the above. Oh, no.
Cover all my bases. Just throw it out there.
Okay, so if you're not already wearing the tinfoil
helmet, it's time to start. Jump on that bandwagon.
We watched Signs the other day. I'm sorry. The
tinfoil. The part where, you know, the kids keep
wearing the tinfoil hats or whatever, but then
the uncle wears it. But then Joaquin. Yeah, Phoenix.
Phoenix. Yeah, he puts it on. Pahonix. Yeah.
The scene where he's in the middle of them with
the. Anyway, that was pretty funny. Why don't
you give us a preview of the books? Which books?
Lord of the Rings? Dune? Hunter S. Thompson?
Yes, that one. If you're eccentric. Ender's Game.
Ooh, that's a good one too. Yes. Speaker for
the Dead. All right, we'll shift. Shadow of Ender.
Or Ender's Shadow. Have you ever read Palma 2
Pro? No, I haven't. Well, I guess you'll find
out tonight. You got a color screen over there?
Yes, color e -ink. Do you have to pay a premium?
So should I be looking at this camera here? No.
Where's my camera? That's your camera. There's
no cue light. So what we have for you tonight
is a quick review of the Palma 2 Pro by Books.
I know you can't see it out there, but... I'll
pretend the camera is recording. Basically, you
can think of this as a phone size e -ink tablet.
Don't think of it as a phone. No, no, no, no,
no, no. It's not a phone. It's close. Not a phone.
It's incredibly close, but it's not a phone.
So this has a 6 .13 inch screen. It has a Snapdragon
processor. That's an Android thing, right? I
don't know. Snapdragon is Qualcomm. Qualcomm.
I just don't. But it does exist in Android. Okay.
It's essentially the cousin of the processors
that you like. But we won't hold that against
you. Like an ARM system. ARM -based. There you
go. ARM -based, yes. There you go. Just making
sure I understand. ARM, yes. There you go. ARM,
ARM, ARM. Wacky, wavy, inflatable, arm -flailing
tube men. Yes. But it's got the ARM processor.
It's got 8 gigs of RAM. It runs Android with
the Books OS on top of it, basically, for the
interface. What's the Books OS look like? It
looks like an Android, in my opinion. Yeah, it's
just kind of simplified. There's some slight
variation to it. I was curious what the color
looked like. Yeah, so the color is very... Subdued.
Subdued. Muted. Muted is where I was going. Pastelly?
Yeah, pastelly. I could buy that. I could buy
that. I want to preface, and I'm not trying to
say anything bad about the device. I think the
device is great. I think what I have learned
is that this device ultimately would not work
for what I want to achieve. And I'll get into
that. It has more to do with the size of the
screen and some of the pieces. But I would say
if you are looking for a phone -sized e -ink
tablet, I think this could be a really good fit
for a lot of people. I think the biggest linchpin
for me is when it comes to notes. Not that you
can't put notes on here, but because the screen
is much smaller, you can't get as much on there.
Now, where I see this being great, like if I
was going to... write out a to -do list or if
I've got to write out my grocery list or I'm
going to Best Buy and I've got to get these things
or I've got my Christmas list, I think it's perfect
for that type of notes in lists. But if you're
wanting to sit in an actual meeting and really
take notes, you're going to run out of screen
real estate really, really fast. That's what
AI is for. Don't talk to me about AI. I would
have issues, I think, with my palm. Not having
a place to rest. I have to set it down. Well,
you can still get your hand on it and write and
it not be an issue. Yeah. Now, I will say, and
I'll show you because I have horrible handwriting.
So, let me open up a new note. Sorry for those
of you at home that can't see this. So, I'm going
to write in cursive. Uh -oh. You're going to
write longhand. Longhand. My version of cursive.
Not necessarily everybody else's. Okay. You're
going to keep the pen on the paper as you're
writing. I think that's the goal. Yeah. Well,
yeah. So, I mean, let me start over since you're
going to be meticulous about it. All right, here
we go. Nope, that's printing. No, it's not. No,
it's not. Don't give me that. It's not. You're
right. All kinds of just throwing shade over
here. So, as you can see, my handwriting. is
junk. That's bad, bad, bad, bad. I don't think
that that is spelled the way that you think it
is. Oh, that was weird. Yeah, it was flashing
the whole time. I don't know why it was flashing,
but it's bad handwriting. Okay, so what I'm going
to do here at the top is I am going to go to
what they're calling AI. It's not AI. Okay. And
I'm going to go to recognition. Do you not want
it to be AI? Is that what you're saying? I see
why it screwed up on that one. Skip logic. What
did you say? I didn't exactly do my R the way
I should have. Hello, your world. So instead
of hello, world, it's hello, wood. Like, would
you? Hello, pants. So I'm not going to make that
a bad reflection on this device at all. Please
do not judge this device on Chris's ability to
spell words. On my ability to write or not write.
So let's try that again. The anticipation is
killing me. Okay. Pregnant pause. I know, pregnant
pause. Here we go. Back to text recognition.
My handwriting is bad. Yeah, I'm getting that.
This is what happens when you do a live demo.
May I try a hello world? This is the live demo
fail. You did say it was your version of cursive.
Maybe it doesn't understand your version of cursive.
We're not living in your reality here, Chris.
Come on now. All right. Does it have to be cursive?
One last time. One last time. Well, I was really
trying to show that there. Okay. I got it a little
bit more where it's legible. Yeah. And now if
you look at the bottom for what it recognized,
it got it right. It got it right. Okay. So there
you can see. Yes. So I would say there, if you
know how to actually write. Yeah. If you have.
Their recognition is actually. Past the cursive
class. Well, that's. Let me tell you. Second
grade. I mean, when was the last time you wrote
in cursive? Third grade when they made me. Just
about, yes. Well, no. Today, actually. During
the SAT, they made us write this thing in cursive.
I don't know what that was about. It was very
weird. Anybody else remember this? I couldn't
wait until I couldn't need to write it. My teacher
didn't require it. But in the last two or three
years, I've been intentionally writing in cursive.
Really? I do. Look at you. Yeah, I don't do cursive.
No. So if you would like to try it, you're more
than welcome to. I can keep talking. I feel like
the stylus goes well across the screen. I think
the stylus doesn't come with it. No, no, no,
no, no. So this particular device is $399 .99.
The stylus is $4999. So it's not bad. I've heard
of other styluses being more expensive. True.
Very true. It's fairly slippery, but not like
writing on liquid. It's not quite like if you've
ever written with a remarkable. That really does
truly feel like pen on paper, pencil on paper.
But it's not like an iPad. No, no, no, no, no,
no. But this does have the little button in the
pen. So when you hold down that button by default
and you go over what you wrote, it will erase
it. okay instead of you flipping it around and
like the back side of it is an eraser but you
can also program that button to do whatever you
want to do it does charge by type c But it's
not like a weird, you have to pull this part
out. No, no. And see, that's where that drives
me crazy. That was one of the things where I
was like, oh, close, but no cigar. You know,
there's not a place where it will physically
attach to here. And charge that way. Or charge
either way. But to charge by USB -C is not the
end of the world. It's far better than sticking
your stylus in the end of your iPad. That was
the worst design ever. No, no, sorry, sorry,
sorry, sorry. It's not the worst design ever.
I feel like the mouse. The mouse. is still the
worst yeah that's true their mouse but it is
it is closely followed by are you kidding me
we're gonna stick this thing like in the end
of the ipad that's what we're that's what we
think is a good idea we're gonna do that it's
gonna get broken off maybe if it increased the
wi -fi reception well it's in there it's an antenna
doubled as an antenna there you go i don't see
why they didn't do that that would have made
so much more sense So moving around this is very
much like moving around an Android in terms of...
Being hard to do? No. Dude. I can't help it that
you... Just because there's another Apple fan
here doesn't mean we have to throw Chris. It's
fine. Not all of us are lemmings and do it Apple's
way. Oh, ouch. Listen, Chris, if you just knew
what you wanted... I know what I want. I want
full flexibility. I want to do it this way. No,
I know I want to do it this way. Did you get
the devil entendre there? Yeah. I missed it.
I want full flexibility. I can't bend my back.
Oh, yes. He does want full flexibility. I do.
Hasn't had it in a while. No, I'll have to die
to get it. He doesn't like it when he starts
saying head and shoulders, knees and toes. That's
not fair. I can't play that game. I almost sent
you this video of this guy. It's like a... It
looks like a Japanese torture chamber, but evidently
they do it to release people's spines. They like
grab onto, they strap them to the, they strap
them to a like weight bench. It looks like, and
then they pull down on this or crank this thing
and it pulls up on their chin. Yeah. It's a,
it's a, it's a form of traction. Yeah. I was
like, Holy cow. I so wish I could. Yeah. Or that
chiropractor who does something similar but abruptly
with a towel. Oh, yeah. That's the guy in Houston.
Yeah. And he calls people crack addicts who watch
the videos on YouTube. Yeah. It's called the
Ring Dinger if you've never seen it. Well, that's
not nice. It's worth watching a video at least
once. Yeah, sure. Because he lays them on the
table. He puts these pins in just above the pelvis
to hold them in the position, lifts their legs
up. and then wraps a towel around their neck,
tells them to keep their mouth closed so they
don't bite off their tongue. Okay. And then he
says... Seems like they would just put one of
those mouthpieces in from the electric chair.
And then he says, wiggle your big toe. And they're
like, what? Pow! And he pulls and you hear them
go... And then they die. No, no, no, no. Why
are my toes numb? Correct. And then everybody
gets up. I can't. Yeah, but people stand up afterwards
and they go, I think I feel taller from getting
stretched. I hope so. And I feel less pain in
my back. Everything snapped back down real close.
I was at the doctor with my dad today and they
were like, how tall are you? He was like six,
two and a half. I was like, not anymore. Not
anymore. Sorry, bud. I used to say 5 '11". And
now my family's like, no, you're 5 '10". Yeah.
That was the heartbreak for me. I'm like, I'm
5 '10". I'm 5 '10". I'm 5 '10". The nurse came
over for the insurance, physical or whatever,
and she was like, no, you're not. It's like,
ouch. Sorry. Gotta be 5 '9 now. Age happens.
It does. Also, fat. Well. Whatever. Okay. Give
me the cheese. Don't downgrade yourself, man.
Give me the cheese. I had a great grandmother
alive when I was young, and we called her little
grandma. She was very short and very tiny. I
was like, which way are we going with this? Yeah,
are we going that she was a large lady? But she
had also shrunk. Well, that was my wife's mother's
mother's mother was called Big Mama, and they're
elves. Oh wow. Like they are tiny people. I was
like, I'm pretty sure that Bootsy and granddaddy
have been around for centuries, but they're just
telling us that they're 80 something. There you
go. I mean, his ears were like folded over. They
looked pointy. I'm not kidding. This dude is
a leprechaun. Yeah, he is. Okay. So This ships
with the Play Store available right out of the
box. Full Play Store? Full Play Store. Okay.
So you're going to play Fruit Ninja for us? No,
I would not do that with an E -Ink screen. This
has the so -called fast refresh, and it's quick
for an E -Ink screen. But yeah, you wouldn't
want to play games on here. You don't want to
watch YouTube on here. You want to play video
for us or something here? Well, I... specifically
did anything video related on it because it didn't
look good. Enjoyable? No. Now, what I did do,
and it's not bad necessarily, but, oh, I'm not
on the Wi -Fi. Oh, what? Put it on your cellular
plan. Yes, you could. Can it do that? Yes, this
actually has a combo jack that is SIM in SD card.
So you can expand your... It comes with 128 gig...
Yeah, 128 gig of internal, but you can expand
that out with SD card. Oh, where's that setting?
It also has a camera on the back of it. It does.
It does. And it's what you would expect for a
16 megapixel camera on a... I hate to say low
-end. That's not really the right term, but it's
what you would expect for a camera on a device
like this. It's okay. They are marketing it for,
what did they say, for document scanning. I think
it could pull that off. It could. Or adding things
to your notes. Yes. Jacob likes to take pictures
of his table whiteboard notes. Mm -hmm. Oh, wrong
one. Did Jacob have one of these? He did not.
He would do it with his phone typically. You
mean his iPhone? It was a phone. It was a phone.
It's a phone. It was an unnamed phone. It was
an ARM processor. Yeah, it is. It is. E -T phone
home. Come on, hotspot. Because I know I've been
on that before. When I see it, it looks to me
like... A phone. Almost like a three by five
spiral bound notepad. Correct. Looks like a phone
to me. It does look like a phone. All right,
here we go. Let's try this again. Now that I
have connectivity, it has speakers in it. And
so you can listen to music. But it also has Bluetooth
connection. So why would you do that? Well, I'm
just saying the speakers are what you would anticipate.
And you can do Bluetooth. You are correct. What
is its screen refresh rate? I don't remember
seeing it exactly in the specs. One. One. One.
You get one refresh. One. Single refresh. So
there you go. It's okay. It's tinny. Sounds a
little tinny. Yeah. It's not. You're not going
to want to listen to a lot. Does spoken word
sound good? Audiophile dream here. No, no, no,
no, not at all. But it does work well with Bluetooth
headphones. I did do that. The only thing that
I can say that I had a problem with was periodically
it would just stop playing the music and I'd
have to go back in and restart. And I haven't
been able to figure out why. I don't know if
that is something specific to YouTube music or
if it's something specific to the way they handle.
background music. That's what I was using. So
maybe there's something in the way that if that's
not an active app, after so long, it does actually
go, you can't be here. Yeah. So you were playing
it in the background while you were doing it?
Yeah, while I was doing other things with it.
But I mean, I've got my Gmail on here. I put
Google Drive on here. I've got Google Calendar
on here to make it. Feel like it's mine. A useful
device. A useful device, yes. And then they do
fill it up with tons of their own applications.
Okay, what are their applications? You can survive
on that. They have their reader for books. Does
it connect to other libraries? If you had something
coming through your Play account for Google,
you could. But they also have their own store
on here. Four e -books that you can get. When
you go into the book, you go away from color
and into black and white. You get that higher
300 dots per inch and the higher resolution.
Whereas when you're in color, you're basically
kind of half the resolution and 150 dots per
inch. So that kind of cuts in half as well. But
I don't feel like that. impedes the usefulness
of the device in any way. You do have a refresh
button at the bottom because when you, let me
see if I can make it do it. It helps with that
one refresh. One. Now we're two. One. I would
assume it opens PDFs and things of that nature.
Yeah, in their reader, yes it does. What I was
trying to get it to do is to open and you can
actually see the bleed over from the previous
screen. which is why the refresh is there. If
you leave the app open long enough, it'll just
naturally do a refresh on its own. But if you
found that it was being slower than you want,
you've got that refresh button at the bottom.
It'll do a quick refresh of the screen. Those
artifacts will go away. You've got to re -shake
the pixels. Yeah, the Etch -A -Sketch. The Etch
-A -Sketch. So E -Ink is supposed to be really
efficient electronically. I do like the Etch
-a -Sketch. Etch -a -Sketch. Oh, man. Mindset.
Just hold it up over your head. Don't leave that
in the same picture for too long because it'll
mess you up. Never get that rid of. It's like
a plasma TV. It's like doing the truffle shuffle,
man. If he was holding that when he did it, it'd
be clear. It'd be amazing. But what is the battery
life expectancy, or what have you noticed with
it? Well, I've only had it since Saturday. And
you've never charged it yet? I charged it to
full. So since then, it has only come down to
88%. Since Saturday. Since Saturday. This is
Tuesday evening, by the way, just for everybody
who's wondering how long is that? And with as
long as it is actually kind of sat and not been
used, my phone would be long dead by now. Yeah.
So basically when you quote unquote put it to
sleep, it goes to that screen. The other screen.
Not that screen. It goes to that screen. Okay.
Right there. It's not lit up. It's a real quick
boom and then there's nothing else going on with
the screen like there would be on a regular OLED
or an LCD or whatever you want to call it. That's
why they keep the refresh rate at one. Exactly.
Keep the battery healthy. One is all you need.
What's the refresh rate? User customizable. And
by that we mean you can press the refresh button
as many times as you want. Technically, you can.
Enter those mouse clicking competitions. It's
like 300. Yeah, actions per second or minute
or whatever it is. To some degree, you actually
can, John. You can control the refresh. You can
use the recommended. You can do the fast or you
can go into custom and you can tell it, I want
to. the fast refresh, or I want you to lean less
on refresh and more on HD, the Christmas of what
I get. You can change the color modes. So you
do have some control over the screen and how
it works. I mean, that makes sense. That's very
Android of you. Again, we're not lemmings. Very
customizable. Yeah, sure. What the user wants.
Make it where it doesn't work. That's fine. They
do have AI Assistant built in, which uses ChatGPT.
Oh, bummer. That's okay. Not Gemini with Android?
No, not Gemini. Don't force you into it. No,
no, no, no, no. The screen doesn't give you a
good view, but there's what a picture looks like
on the e -ink screen. I can send you actual...
That image direct. Yeah. And we can get all that
in the show notes and stuff so people can see
the actual picture. Well, I'd love to know if
it looks better on a different screen. So send
it to me now. It does look a little bit better.
Let's do this. Do I have? Yeah. Never mind. Don't
send it to me. Share. Mine's taking a video.
Gmail. Are we live on camera? I don't want to
be live on camera. Nobody's talked about that
yet either. You could send it to me. Live on
camera. I could do that. Oh, that's right. Jason's
not doing anything. On camera? On camera. What?
Chris is the focal point of this camera shot.
There you go. Pictures coming your way. I know
it will probably take a little bit. So speaking
to the cellular connectivity, it is data only.
which is not necessarily bad, but at the same
time, I'm sitting here going, if it's data only
and I already have a smartphone, why am I putting
a plan on here if I can just do hotspot on here
or Wi -Fi wherever I'm located at? And I feel
like that was the, like, okay, this is a tablet
in the sense of what it is able to do with a
data plan. This is a phone in the sense of its
portability or not a phone. Well, yeah, a phone,
but it's more like a watch in the sense of its
data plan and its portability. But even with
most of the watches now you can make phone calls.
So the, this is, I feel like if I could finally
get to the point or if not, I, if, if we could
finally get to the point where our, We don't
have a phone anymore and we have a watch that
does full. You want the Dick Tracy watch? Yeah,
I want the Dick Tracy watch. I want the watch
to do the. That's what I want. This is the one
that I communicate with. Yes. It's fine. And
it doesn't have like a screen big enough for
me to be on it all the time or anything like
that. Yes. If I had something like that, it would
be great to have something like this that could
tether to the watch. Yep. That then I can. look
up a web page that i need to but it just at the
you know at the end of the day it just slides
in my pocket or not the end of the day yeah that
looks better on this it's almost like a sepia
on a standard screen on on a on an iphone um
standard screen standard screen standard um it
looks like a it looks like a polaroid that's
what i'm gonna say a little bit yeah it looks
like a polaroid So that's great. Is that Bliss?
Which cat is that? I think that might be Peanut.
I think. It's a cat. Why did you name it? If
you give it a name, you give it power. We don't
name cats. It's like naming the rat in the attic.
The animals that you grow for food. Yeah. Don't.
Fair. It tastes nothing like peanut. Yes. What
does dog taste like? Just name a cacao dog and
you'll know. Yikes. Sorry, Rambo. So what would
you say, in the world that we live in, not the
world, what was that? Did you get that? That
was really loud. Did you send me something? Yeah,
I didn't know if you... Is this still linked
to your iMessage? No. But it's an iPad. This
is not my iPad. This is not the Droid you're
looking for. So did that sound come from your
phone? No, that came from that thing. Oh, I couldn't
tell where it came from. Yeah, that was loud
and not tinny. Okay. Well, my phone that is recording
you is on. Yeah, I feel like I'm being interrogated.
You are. Where were you? Yeah, where were you?
On the night of. January 3rd when they caught
Maduro. Okay, so not, I was, never mind. You
know what I wasn't doing? And that was telling
the largest military in the world that they should
come and get me. Well, yeah. Dummy. Anyway. Back
on track. So in the world that we live in, not
in the world that we wish to live in, who is
this for? If you want full -blown note -taking,
you want to get a full 13 -inch tablet. Fingerprint
power button. That's just kind of where it is.
Yes, yes. You didn't give them your fingerprint
though, right? No, no, no, no. Okay. No, I know
better. Disabled. They've already got it in other
ways, but I didn't give it to them. Face ID thing.
You know about driver's license, right? Okay,
never mind. I would say if you want to get rid
of a smartphone and go to a mostly dumb phone,
but you still want to have access to some of
your apps, but you also want this device to help
drive you away from keeping your face buried
in the screen. which is what I'm ultimately trying
to go for. Yeah. I think this is great. So like,
I think if my wife, she's keeping up with her
to do, she's keeping up with her grocery lists.
The kids say, Hey, what about this? She can throw
something on the calendar. They could share it
out with the family. Um, quick reference to pull
stuff out of Google, Google drive real quick.
Um, E E books. I think, If you're looking to
do any of that, I think it will work quite well.
I do love the fact that it literally fits in
the pocket just like my phone does. You're not
going to do that with a full -blown tablet. No.
I think if you've never used an e -ink screen
before, you do need to potentially back off on
your expectations for the screen. Back off. Again,
if you've never used one, you're going to look
at it and go, what did they do to the screen?
But that's the whole thing about e -ink. It's
not going to look like the screen on your phone.
It's going to look well. It's going to be crisp.
You're going to have very muted colors, which,
again, I believe plays into your brain doesn't
get a lot of the... that keeps you plugged into
a device. What do you mean? You're not going
to stay in that cycle of getting all the good
dopamine hits because it's not so bright and
flashy. And it does have a soft light. It's backlit,
but it has a soft light that is more amber and
probably is better for your eyes. Yes, I would
agree with that. So I would say if you don't
need a full -blown tablet, but you still want
to keep your apps and you want to do some basic
to -do note -taking, I think this device could
work well. But if you really want something that
you're in a meeting and you're just going to
town taking notes, but you don't want to necessarily
keep doing traditional pen and paper, then you
want to go with a 13 -inch version. Which they
have. Which is the Note Air 5C. But you're also
talking it is a two or I think maybe $300 jump
in price. Yeah. So the Palma 2, Palma 2 Pro,
which is the one that you have. Which brings
color. Color. And the Note Air 5C. Yes. These
are the book's offerings. Yes. And then they
have the Go series. Which I think the new version
of the 7 -inch Go also is color. Tab XC. That
one is very pricey. Yeah. That is getting into
upper level of remarkable in terms of price.
But without the, whatever you call it. Oh, the
subscription? Yeah. So we did confirm. that on
the Remarkable, if you don't pay for the subscription,
you can still have the integration into Google
Drive. That's nice. Yes. That's good. Yes. That's
really frustrating. Speaking of, if you do want
to do a show on the Remarkable 2, we actually
do now have someone who is a user of the device.
We could have them come on and share. We may
do that. Your experience is with the remarkable.
Yeah, we may do that. But the also, also, the
also, books also has, I'm just now seeing this.
Speaking of pricey, you ready for this? No. Oh,
the monitor? Books Mira Pro Series. Yes. So you
can plug it into any, you know, Windows 64, Windows
32, Mac, or Linux. EE monitor. Okay. Keep that
in mind. I was, I was reflecting back to a device
I remember as a child that had a backlight that
was easy on the eyes. The little... It was a
Game Boy. Oh, Game Boy, yeah. Oh, wait, it didn't
have a backlight. I thought you were talking
about that little... What was the little worm
thing that was like the glow light? The glow
worm. Glow worm, yeah. The glow worm that like...
Anyway. So just in case you're wondering from
the other conversation that we have, the books...
Mira E -Ink monitor also has a physical refresh
button. So it might have a refresh rate of one.
But share the price. It's a 25 .3 inch. What's
the resolution? Hold on. I'm sure it says it
somewhere. Not the compatible, but the native.
Yeah. Resolution 3200 by 1800. 25 .3 inches.
It costs... Too much. I mean, some. $1 ,900.
If you thought Apple was... Asking for too much?
Asking for a $5 ,000 monitor? Well, the $5 ,000
monitor, definitely they're asking too much.
What is the power draw? The studio, whatever,
the lower version one. is cheaper than this so
there you go yes but this is a monitor in search
of a problem yeah oh i just got a 404 that's
exciting but being an e -ink display what is
what does the power consumption look like probably
next to nothing right yeah it um evidently us
talking about it made it it would disappear from
there it doesn't consume power it puts it back
on the grid yeah Now, it would be an interesting
use for some kind of... By the pressing of the
refresh button. It would be an interesting use
case for signage. Yeah. Because it only needs
to draw power when you need to show something
different. This would be great for kiosk work.
You know, if you're doing check -ins or something
like that. Yeah. But aren't looking for a touch
screen because it's not doing that. Yeah. Because
the idea behind the e -ink is that it can light
up the screen and then not ever have to draw
power again. The example that they're showing
has like full code on three quarters of the screen.
So like they're... Vibe coding. They're like,
you know who needs e -ink? Coders. Because those
guys need to be able to sleep at night. Because
they stare at static. Editors. I mean, it's showing
like YouTube. That's weird. Why would you watch
YouTube on this? I wouldn't use YouTube for that.
That's enough bass to hit that button. At least
30 times a second. I mean, it's just muscle building
at this point. Instead of turf toe, you end up
with finger. Turf finger. Oh, no. Oh, and you
can make it cooler or warmer. Okay. Soft. Color
or crisp monochrome. I mean, this is a different
level of all in that I was not prepared for.
Fuzzy text or crisp text. It does seem like there's
a display port, an HDMI, a USB -C, and then there's...
Either another USB -C that just doesn't look
right or like a micro HDMI. Hold on. Chris got
distracted by aluminum. They're saying. Don't
you dare. No, it says find more beers. Oh. You
have my attention. Yeah, I know. I'm with you.
I need to drink this beer. Y 'all talk. Talk
amongst yourselves. I'm a Clint. Talk amongst
yourselves. I am a little bit of a clump from
this monitor. I was not expecting to see something.
I want to find more beers. Like this. Michigan
Amber. They have a handful. Peach Haze. Sounds
like a Jacob beer. Yeah, it does. Sadly, he won't
be listening to this. Jacob just doesn't listen.
He was like, well, can I get it on Spotify? I'm
like, yes. Yes, you can. And then he never listens.
That's such a bummer. Michigan Amber. Swing Juice.
Yeah, I saw that. Swing Juice. Big Lake Camper.
50 IBUs. Fudgy. The Fudgy. The original Fudgy.
Blood Orange Haze. No. Wild Berry Haze. No. Strawberry
Haze. No. Where's the Purple Haze? No. Cotton
Candy Haze. Oh. Sparty party. Sparty party. Hazy
IPA. I will deal with the chocolate sweetness
in a beer. Haze and blue. But I'm going to draw
the line at strawberry. Happy. Fancy. Happy is
a citrus wheat. Orange cream shandy. Now, I did
look at this one, but the last time I got you
a black lager, it didn't go over well. No, it
did not. Ooh. Dark side of the lake? Yeah. I
looked at that one and I was like, it's another
black lager. I love that. I would try it just
for that can alone. I mean, you're going to put
Pink Floyd on there? I'll give it a try. Harmony.
I wonder if they got a... Cerveza de Lago. Oh,
it's a Mexican lager. I'd have to pass. Yeah,
you don't do well with Mexican lagers. I don't
do well with those. Double IPA. Alpenglow. Camper
special. Euphoric double. Now, there's the special
release. That's what we got. Yeah. The B .A.
Double Fudgy. It's like the B .A. Baracus. B
.A. Baracus, there you go. Is that code for something
that we're not allowed to say on this? Barrel
-aged. Lightly buzzed. That's their blonde ale.
B .A. Baracus, the throwback to the 18. Yes,
it is. Tulip time. That sounds Jacob. People
kind of joked with me that I moved from a town
that celebrated tulips to a town that celebrated
roses. That is pretty funny. There's a tulip
thyme lager. Blaze on. Oh, raspberry fudgy. Oh.
That sounds like something that's, never mind.
Drop it. Move on. Not so great. You need to.
We'll cut that one for the show. Yikes. Yikes.
But I did see that one. I do like this one, though.
It is good. It is way sweeter than. than I thought
it would be. Than you thought it would be? Double
fudgy, you didn't think that was going to be
sweet? Well, I figured it would be chocolatey.
I didn't necessarily think sweet. We're over
an hour and we haven't opened the second beer.
I've had to talk a bunch, man. Well. You made
the introvert try to be extrovert. Of course
I didn't drink all my beer. Listen, I did not
make you be extrovert. You want this as much
as I do. I had to talk. I had to talk. My arm
was twisted. I had no choice. Talking and pretzels
and cheese. So all that, real quick conclusion,
I think the Palma 2 Pro is a great product. I
think it fits certain use cases is the caveat
due to the small screen size. But again, if you
don't need this for note -taking, I think this
could really be in people's wheelhouse. Nice.
But if you want note -taking, you really want
the 13 -inch screen. I like that a lot. So I
would have no problem recommending this to people,
especially if you're looking to break addiction
from your smartphone. I think this is the way
to go. Pair it with a basic phone that has a
hotspot. Don't put a SIM card in it. I don't
think it's necessary. Right. And you're good
to go. There you have it. I am intrigued by the
Remarkable, though, also. Yes. Just to feel how
it writes. Because I have, as maybe noted earlier,
but... I have switched to writing more. We weren't
recording that last part. Can you do the recap
again? I'm kidding. Don't. That was a joke. Oh,
Simpsons. They've been around too long. There.
Are you happy? It's gone. Yes, I'm happy. Boom.
Mostly because of the cheese. The cheese is good.
The cheese is good. Beer and cheese. Papa's cheese.
Is there Papa's cheese? Anybody have Papa's cheese?
No, it's Papa's. John. Papa John's cheese. That's
a different thing altogether. I don't think you'd
want to put that on pizza. I don't know. It depends
on the pizza. Did you know that they put pineapple
on pizzas? Yeah. I don't know why they allow
it. I'm just saying they're worse things that
have gone on pizzas. My wife will tell me that
that's not cool. My pretzel is breaking. She's
a fan. Anybody here have Donato's pizza? No.
Donato? They were a chain up north. I know Luminati's.
I know. I always called it Donato's, but it was
Donato's. Donato's. And they had a Hawaiian,
they always cut, there was round pizzas. Please
don't eat Donato's. Round pizzas cut into squares.
Okay. Are you going to deny Donna? And they were
almost all thin crust. I'm denying her eating
her toes. Disgusting. That is disgusting. But
yeah, they had a Hawaiian pizza that they added
like cinnamon to it. And Tina really liked that.
I don't know. You know, I get the feeling if
more people at Pine Cove would watch the show,
they would probably call me out for being as
quiet as I am at work. There you go. You talk
for like an hour and a half. If they would just
give you beer. Beer and cheese and pretzels.
I'm just saying there's a way to get them to
talk, guys. And it may involve alcohol. So what
else you got for us? Nothing. I mean, until we
get this videocaster or roadcaster video S working.
Is the S like the iPhone 4S? I think so. Or is
the S as in simple? I think it's S as in small.
Small. It's S as in. Does not work right now.
It's not. Big things come in small packages.
Yeah, no, I really do think if I can figure out
exactly what the problem is here, then this is
going to be tremendous for a lot of different
reasons. It's going to be huge. It's going to
be really huge. I was. Based on the videos that
I saw, really expecting more plug and play than
it actually turned out to be. Well, Mr. Jack,
what's his name? Your YouTube guy? I can't think
of his name right now. Jack Horner. It was not
Jack Horner. No. I've seen his videos before.
He likes all the colors. Maybe it's not Jack.
No, it's Tom. Tom's hardware? Tom Buck. Tom Buck.
There you go. Oh, I'm trying to remember the
guy's name that was on TV. I know he passed away
on Saturday nights or maybe it was Sunday nights.
He'd have the, the hunting show, the outdoorsman.
Oh, um, it's something, Buck McNeely. Yeah. Buck
McNeely. There you go. My wife loved to watch
that when it was on. He wouldn't, he wouldn't
think that she would enjoy that, but there was
something about it that she, She liked watching
the show. Interesting. Hmm. Anyway, next time,
next time we'll have it. The road. I have to
admit, I'm disappointed that this is the show
we have. Well, the cheese was worth it. Oh yeah,
for sure. And the beer. Thank you, Jason. Yeah,
you're welcome. Uh, yeah, we'll see you next
time. All right. See you everybody. Great, but
that was over way too soon.