Hey Chris, what's up? Not much. How you doing,
John? Yeah, it's a very merry episode. Yes, it
is. For a number of reasons. Yes. Number one,
obviously, is that we're recording this, though
it has not been released yet. Correct. On Christmas
Eve Eve. Yes, we are. A full complement of 26
shows in one year. We did it. Yeah, I don't know
how we did that. This is where we need the like...
Clap. Do you get the clap and the board over
there? Oh, I muted that. No, that was cricket.
Hold on. Let me find the applause. There you
go. Yes. Yes. Look at us being, you know, part
of the problem. Anyway, so, yeah, crazy, crazy.
And this has been like a weird year for getting
all 26 in. Yeah, it has. Like, I don't. I would
have expected us to do that earlier on. Sure.
This year, I wouldn't have predicted that. No.
By any stretch of the imagination. Nope. It's
just, there's been too much going on. I agree.
What was the name of our first show this year?
This year. Do you have that? Putting me on the
spot. I mean, only because you brought it up.
Oh, I see what you did there. No, that's not.
The first show of 25 was Audio Sigma with A Christmas
Ale. Oh, yeah, because we were talking about
Audio Sigma. I think that was my solo show. Yeah,
you did the solo show. We talked about Audio
Sigma, the last show of 2024. And that's going
to be interesting. I'm not going to say the title
out right now, but we'll talk about the title
in a minute, and you'll get the connection. Kind
of a coincidence here. But that's funny. Audio
Sigma is still a big fan. Way to go, Mike. Oh,
yeah. I love it. I still play around with it
at the house. Good gear. Good guy. Hey, what
are we drinking? Oh, yes. Did you bring it? I
did. It's my favorite. Yes. Well, it's not my
favorite. It's going to be good. I don't know.
It's one of my favorites. And then I can't guarantee,
but let me get this out first and then I'll go
into the next piece because it depends on court.
If he comes through like he's supposed to, we
will have something very, very, very special.
So not only is this our 26th show of this year,
it's our 49th show altogether. And so next show,
is 5 -0. The big one. So we're going to ask Jason
Court to come on, hang out with us a little bit.
In memory of him, we have something that he brought
to us a long time ago. Correct. So tonight we're
bringing it back. The episode that released on
the 24th of December of 24 was Audio Sigma with
a Dragon's Milk Chaser. And so here we are, last
show of 25, Dragon's Milk again. Just sheer coincidence.
I love it. That's great. Yeah, we didn't plan
this at all, folks, because we don't plan things.
So I have to say thank you to Ethan. I don't
know if he'll be listening or not, but he actually
gave this to me as a Christmas gift. Thank you,
Ethan. And I'm like, dude, that's awesome. Thank
you very much. Perfect for the show. I don't
even know Ethan that well. He gave me a Christmas
present. Yes, I will credit him with supplying
the beer for the show. I really appreciate you,
Ethan. Anybody can supply beer for the show.
We'll drink it. Yeah. No, absolutely. And yes,
I would even try a blonde if that's what people
share. Because we did that. We did do that. The
Flair guys brought us a growler. Yeah. And I
drank it. Drank it. Fish soap, but I drank it.
Chris doesn't quit on beer. No, I'm not going
to quit a beer. Okay, well. All right. I'm so
excited. Okay, so I'm glad you brought your opener
because I don't have one here with me. Handy
dandy opener? Handy dandery. Technically, I have
two. It's not quite as I was expecting. This
works too. That's great. Okay. Cheers. Dragon's
milk is a bourbon barrel aged stout. So all of
the goodness I did buy for our Christmas gatherings
this, um, this year, I bought a, uh, a bottle
of, um, Cooper and thief, which is a red wine.
That is, I think the one that I got is the, uh,
Cabernet. I'm pretty sure you've told me about
that one before. Yeah, it's bourbon barrel aged.
So I'm just saying. There's a bunch now that
like they have all these different varietals
of this. I'm like, okay. I mean, I'm glad it's
becoming a thing because I really like it. Yeah.
Cheers. I love the smell of this. Yeah. What
is that? What are you getting? Because I got
like graham cookie in my nose right now. No,
I'm getting the bourbon. Just a hint. I don't
get any graham cookie, though. Well, I just drank
a whole lot of Dr. Pepper. Well, you needed to
cleanse your palate. All right, here we go. Here
we go. Cheers. It's good. 49. 49. Woo -woo. Oh,
man. It's so good. It's so good. Well done. Well
done, guys. The Michigan boys know how to make
some good beer. Between Dragon's Milk and Founders,
they've got it rolling. I'm going to say I like
Dragon's Milk more than Founders. I agree. This
says throughout the ages, Dragon's Milk has been
a, oh, wow. Okay, so this is like not a great.
Font color, but I'm going to work really hard
to make that happen. Go against the bottle, yeah.
Throughout the ages, dragon's milk has been a
term used to describe potent ales that were bestowed
in celebration of the end of a journey. Oh, that's
nice. Our signature stout carries on that tradition
today. Roasted malt delivers notes of coffee
and chocolate. Married with sweet undertones
of vanilla and oak. Oak? I'm not really getting
oak. No. From a three -month stay in bourbon
barrels to create a truly legendary blend of
flavors. I'll go with legendary. It's even called
the Legendary Dragons. Legend? Wait for it. Dairy.
Wait for it, and I hope you're not lactose intolerant,
because the last part of this word is dairy.
Yes. Oh. I did find out this morning that one
of my nieces is lactose intolerant. I was like,
oh, that sucks. Poor girl. Sorry. Poor girl.
She's allergic to gluten and dairy, and I was
like, that's a tough life. I don't think I'd
make it. No, no, no, no. Well, I was that way
when I was first born. Really? I couldn't have
anything milk at all. So I was a soy and fruit
juice baby. That's interesting. And I stayed
sick all the time. I couldn't go, like even something
as simple as a neighbor mowing the yard would
set me off. I was allergic to it. I don't think
I've ever heard of a baby not being able to drink
milk. Couldn't have strawberries. Couldn't have
chocolate. Couldn't have ice cream. That's the
worst. It is. But as I got older, whatever it
was, it grew out of my system. And I do love
me some dairy now. Oh, cheese, man. Oh, cheese.
Oh, cheese. I'm not a Packers fan. No, not a
cheese head, but cheese. Yeah, definitely. Speaking
of Packers, did you watch that game? Nope. You
didn't watch? Nope. Have you seen the highlights?
Nope. Oh, dude. I know nothing. I know nothing.
Oh. All I'm going to say then, because I don't
want to ruin it for you, because I want to watch
the highlights as we. Okay. The Bears actually
got a win. Nice. We beat the pack. Yeah. For
what? A football game is 60 minutes. So for.
58 minutes of regulation. They beat the tar out
of us. Really? And then magic happened. And we
went into overtime. That's incredible. We'll
watch the highlights afterwards. So this is going
to be a little mean, but all you Packers fans
can kiss my hind end. I mean, they can't get
upset. There's been a lot of the other direction.
Oh, of course. Of course. For 33 years, they
have. Now it is 56 wins to them, 17 losses to
us. So it's way ever since Brett Favre, man.
I had to live through Brett Favre. They lost
17 times to you. Yeah, they've lost 17 times
to us, but they beat us 56 times. Yeah. So I've
had to live through Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers,
and now Jordan Love. Yeah. And it's just kind
of like you can't put three quarterbacks together
like that. That's not fair. That's not fair.
So I'm hoping. We get a shift, but we'll see.
Well, I mean, yes. Green Bay has had some good
quarterbacks. Yes. The Bears have made some questionable
choices. Oh, yeah. Continue to. I don't really
understand the letting go of the desire to have
a defense. Yep. But anyway. So we'll get back
to that later. But here is. where I need court
to come through because he's in Michigan. He's
supposed to go to visit dragon's milk. And I
told him, take pictures. No, no, no, no. You
let me know what they have and I will send you
a money via cash app. So you can buy this and
bring it back. I like that plan. So they have
three that I'm trying to get my hands on. Plus
if they have it, I want triple mash. Is he driving
back or flying back? He is driving back. So he
can bring kegs. Oh, I wish. I wish. So if they
have triple mash, he's going to let me know.
I'm going to buy as much of it as I can afford.
Nice. Do you remember triple mash? That was amazing.
That was really good. 18 % and it drank so smooth.
It drank just like this. It's very nice. Okay.
The bite in this is very bourbon bite. It is.
And it's good. So this one. I'm willing to give
it a try because I've had a similar one and it
was okay. Okay. They have a coconut rum barrel
reserve stout. I'm willing to give it a try.
I don't like coconut. I'm willing to give it
a try. I see what you're saying. I just don't
like coconut. Now this next one, challenge accepted.
I'm going to drink it all by myself. Okay. It
is the dragon's milk. Dungeons and Dragons, D20
brew, 20%. So because of the 20 -sided dice,
they just were like, we're going to go 20. Look
at the bottle. Oh, my gosh. 20 -sided dice, and
it's got a wax seal. It's got a wax seal. Guys,
this is a beer that has a wax seal. Yes. And
I'm like, if they've got it, you let me know.
I want it. Well, I mean, you could bring two
of them and it'd be fine. Well, I want that for
show 50. That'd be great. We're all going to
be laid out. So we're going to take two hours
for this show so that we can drive home afterwards.
Exactly. That's hilarious. And then they have
one left. I seriously doubt they've got it, and
I seriously doubt I'll be able to afford it.
But this is 100 proof. I'm sorry? Dragon's Milk
Dungeons and Dragons Origin Mead Cask. Look at
that bottle. With that dragon's head. Okay, I
will tell you, the only time I've drank mead,
I wanted to like it so much, I did not enjoy
myself. I've never had it. I've heard people
have horrible experiences with it. I'd be willing
to give it a shot. I mean, I think everyone should
give it a shot because, I don't know, one of
these days they're going to make one that I think
is, I mean, they've got to make one that's good
or that I think is good. If nothing else, I just
want the bottle. Yeah, that's so cool. The bottle's
amazing with the dragon head. Yeah, that'll be
in the art for sure. Yeah, so as long as he makes
it there, I will gladly send him as much money
as I need to on Cash App. I can reimburse you.
Yep, yep, yep. Oh, shoot, you said something
that made me want to think about or talk about.
Shoot, what was it? I don't know. Couldn't have
been that good. I mean, it seems like it was
around the Dungeons and Dragons moment, but...
The D20? D20. The dice? The dice. I don't know.
Garrett has a shirt that has the D20 dice, and
it's landed on a one. Underneath, it just says,
crap. Those of you that know, it's a funny shirt.
Yeah, that's great. You roll a one, you're basically
dead. Dead. Not good, folks. Not in that world.
That's pretty great. Shout out to my oldest sister
who I told about this show today. She didn't
know that I was still doing a podcast and I was
like, yeah, I mean, I got this podcast with a
friend of mine. She's like, well, I said, I have
a podcast. That we'll be recording tonight and
then I'll come over and see y 'all because they're
at my mom and dad's right now. And I was like,
it's called, it's just a podcast where we talk
about beer or drink beer and talk about gear.
And she was like, oh, really? What's it called?
And I was like, beer and gear. We're not that
creative. perfect it's straight to the point
right so my sister may be actually listening
to this one whenever we drop it which would be
great love you jen um sorry we're gonna uh you
know talk about tech stuff but it did actually
remind or not remind me it did make me think
about what uh tech stuff we could talk about
or what uh you know whatever um we could talk
about that that that might not be quite as techie
i wanted to um we really really really wanted
to talk about the road video um s caster video
s um but it has not made it to me yet there's
probably some people that have it um because
they pre -ordered i guess earlier than me um
i actually and this is also my fault i i didn't
order directly from road usually i order from
uh sweetwater bnh and a lot of times like especially
with new stuff they'll just drop ship um new
stuff from you know they'll say this is how many
orders we have this is where they're going and
then yep road will actually send them out and
maybe that'll happen but they're saying um when
i contacted my sweetwater rep which those of
you that have a sweetwater rep know it's like
your best friend But when I talked to my Sweetwater
rep, Brian Loney, he was like, it looks like
we're not getting ours until January, which is
very sad for me. But I did say Merry Christmas
to them because they're amazing and it's not
their fault. But really, really was hoping to
talk about the RODECaster Video S because I really
wanted to set that up. not use it for this show
but be able to walk through some of the at least
preset options for it yeah and key features and
stuff like that because this thing looks amazing
yeah it would have been nice to put my hands
on it especially for somebody who has a roadcaster
pro 2 yeah it seems like this is the missing
piece for being able to do some pretty awesome
video audio together Yep, it definitely feels
like they want you to pair them together. So
anyway, the RODECaster video has been out for
a while, like a year. And it's great, but it's
big and it's too much. And I don't have that
many cameras to use for something like this.
But like four cameras seems like we could do
this. Or four, you know, different. Anyway. I'm
excited about seeing that thing. But I thought
about for today, one of the things that I actually
think about for all of my sisters, my sisters
are, they're all, all three of them are mothers
now. Okay. And Jen, Jen's the one that I actually
lived with the least. Okay. Because she was eight
years older than me. So by the time I was 10,
she was kind of out of the house. Okay. And a
lot of high school, I would say. She was not
around me because I was running around elementary
school and she was running around high school.
But anyway, all three of my sisters, though,
have families. And Jennifer and Joy have four
and five children. Wow. JC has two. I have three.
Wow. We kind of learned our lesson from watching
the people with all of the kids. Don't do that.
But they're crazy busy, and they're constantly
having to juggle all these different things.
So it made me start to think about the way we've
talked about it before is meta work, the work
around the work. My meta work, I don't mean Facebook
work. Or Metaglasses work or Instagram work.
Yes. Although one of these days I would like
to do some VR talk at some point or VRAR talk.
I think we talked a little bit about it, but
it would be great to go further into that side
of things. But I'm talking about the work that
organizes your work or the work that... Isn't
just getting the thing done. It's kind of making
sure that the thing happens and then making sure
that the other stuff is being followed up after
the work is done. Okay. It's funny because this
was actually, I didn't know it at the time and
I definitely didn't have a word for it. But when
I first started working at Pine Cove, this was
my job. My job was not to get things done. It
was to. do the work surrounding getting things
done. So on the front end, whenever things are
coming up and then on the back end, whenever
things have happened and then anything during
that needed to be go for it, you know, I was
22 years old and I didn't know anything. So had
to pay a lot of dues there of not knowing anything.
And it meant there was a lot of running around
and a lot of I think what what I have thought
of now for a while as busy work but there needs
I need to I need to return to it a little bit
because I'm realizing that I'm just not doing
a good job of this and this applies sorry all
of that to say this applies then to my sisters
and the families that they have and the jobs
that they've done and everything because a lot
of I am so aware in watching their lives of how
much they're trying to keep track of. And I would
love to get from them. Jennifer, if you're listening.
Joy, Jason, if you're listening. Yeah, we're
all J names. Sorry about that. That's okay. My
parents are weird. John, Jane, Jennifer, Joy,
Jason. They found something they like and stuck
with it. Johnny. Weird. Anyway. how did you keep
track of all the things that you had? Cause it's
not like, to me there's like, there's a, there's
I think a level of intelligence that I appreciate
in people that allows them to keep a lot of things
in their head. But I don't have the level of
intelligence that allows me to keep a lot of
things in separate, like categories all in my
head. I can keep a lot of things in my head in
one category. But when you're a parent, you kind
of have to keep things in a category for each
child and then a category for your spouse and
then a category for work and then a category
for the house. There's a lot of things that you
have to kind of whatever. And one of the cool
things about your brain is that the more of those
categories that can overlap in terms of... a
something in one of those categories can overlap
into the others. That's helpful. Yes. Helps you
remember it. But there's a lot of things that
don't. And so, I mean, the easy side of this
is like to do list. What to do list apps are
you using? I am still a. paper and pencil person
for at least well at least let me get my back
for work for work so i've got lots of paper notepads
with stuff and it's just kind of like what i've
wanted to do but you have a lot like you have
separate ones uh you're just writing it down
no no no no i i go until that one is full okay
and then i start a new one but you have them
all in one place Yeah. Great. We're going to
talk about this. It's messy, but yeah, I have
them all together. What I've been wanting to
do, and I just haven't found one that I've been
willing to spend the money on, but I actually
want to get one of the e -ink. Like Remarkable?
Yeah. They're really good because that's all
they focus on. Yeah. But I want one that actually
can do more. So I actually have been looking
at, The ones that run Android. So you can actually
put real apps on. Did you look at Daylight? Daylight.
I have not seen Daylight. Okay, so this is great
because I think it's called Daylight. I'm going
to make sure that we're all in the... Yeah, Daylight
Computer. Okay. daylight a more caring computer
this is a so i i've looked at a bunch of these
so like while you're looking that up because
i want you to look at daylight while i'm talking
okay um uh i'm i'm right there with you like
i writing things down is actually really important
i think for our brains um sure and i think that
you know typing things out same type of concept
but there's a lot of um Because it is like you're,
even though you may be looking at your computer,
you're looking at a lot of different screens.
Your brain doesn't trust that the screen that
you just let go of is still there. Are these
former Apple people? Daylight? Yeah. I don't
know. Their web design screams Apple all the
way. It really does. You keep sliding and the
page just kind of evolves. Scroll, scroll. This
is a thing now. I don't like it. Well, I'm just
saying you don't have to be an Apple person to
think that because of Apple's market share, you
need to copy them. Sure. Maybe that's what's
happening. Cause I know the remarkable guy, he
was Apple. Yeah. And I will tell you the reason
that I'm not going with remarkable. We'll just
skip to that part. The reason I'm not going with
remarkable is because of the freaking subscription.
Well, you can use it without a subscription,
but you are limited in some of the features.
I mean, really limited. Yeah. Like it holding
on to things is, I mean, this is the whole purpose
of having it. Yeah. Now, if I remember correctly,
without the subscription, you can still sync
it up to Google Drive. I didn't think that was.
I think you can on the free. Okay. I'd have to
go back and double check. It was definitely one
of those things that I was like, I don't appreciate
that I've just bought this, in my mind, overpriced
tablet. Yeah, it looks like this one is in that
same price range at $729. Yeah, but it's not
the same limited scope. Yeah, I think the only
thing that I would want different is I want color.
yeah okay this does not no it's not and it's
and it's not a bad thing you got a keyboard set
up for it in the whole night fancy yeah i really
like the color e -ink yeah and i'm okay with
the fact that there's a little it's getting way
better but i'm okay with the fact that there
is a little screen transition as you jump between
things that doesn't bother me one bit yeah It
does look like this E Ink, the Daylight E Ink
is making some strides towards that smooth transition,
which I really appreciate. But I agree with you.
You're giving up things on the screen. Yes. I
don't need color. I actually want it to not have
color, whichever one I choose to not have color,
simply because I want it to make me. not as excited
about getting on it. Not, not, not, not excited.
I don't, I don't want to crave getting on it.
Well, that's why I think the color ones are still
okay because they're not vibrant. Yeah. They're
very muted colors. It's not like a computer or
a phone. Yeah. Uh, it's, it's more like a, like
a faded watercolor. So I, I feel like that would
keep me from being like, Got to keep my face
buried in this thing. And it would be a little
bit of like, and the fact that you do have some
of that delay in the transitions. Yeah. Again,
it's just kind of like, I'm here to do what I
need to do and I'm going to get out. Yeah. But
the idea behind some of this, at least in my
mind, and I like that you're writing things down.
I've been trying to write things down. I'm actually
really bad at it. I have a notebook just to write
things down, and I've been told by smarter people
than me that when you're writing things down,
you have the place that you put all of your information.
The writing it down and leaving it there is actually
really... to your brain, especially if you're
an anxious person or you worry a lot or something
like that because it's actually your brain trying
to keep track of something it doesn't trust you
will remember. And as somebody who has ADHD,
there's a lot of things that I don't trust that
I will remember. And trying to train yourself
to trust your computer when you've had a computer
not have any charge. or whatever, then you have
your phone on you and you have your computer
and you have a tablet just in case. Um, and so
the idea of having just, I mean, if you just
go back to straight, like we're going to write
this down, that's actually really helpful. It
is. So I'm, I, I'm a fan. I, I have one that
I carry around in my backpack. I might have to
not do it that way, even though that's the way
that the people that I know that, um, are smarter
than me do it because it's a big. place to write
down stuff i i feel like i need to start doing
it in smaller ones because i very rarely actually
take my backpack with me everywhere i go i carry
it to work and then i carry it home and i don't
always take it in from listen if you live in
my neighborhood and you come steal my backpack
out of my car i'm gonna be really upset but i
don't always take it into my house correct Security.
Yeah. You're bringing up a good point. If I had
it in my backpack, you would either be at home
or at work. It wouldn't be with me on the road.
Yeah. And it's like, you know, you're sitting
at lunch and somebody says something and you're
like, I need to remember that. I need to write
it down right now. There is a possible option.
I haven't dug into it enough. But the company
Books, B -O -O -X. I don't know if you're familiar
with them. Nope. They make one called the Palma.
It is basically the form factor of a phone. Okay.
So if I could, did they actually make it a phone
or does it stay? Note Air 5C. That's their like
flagship, it looks like, or at least their latest.
I need to just go to. Yeah, it looks like it's
still. It doesn't function as a phone. Which
is great. I don't really want a phone. Well,
I actually would want it as a phone. Okay. Because
again, now this is not color. Yeah. The Palma
is just basically black and white. But I'm looking
for ways to drive myself away from a smartphone
and still be able to get my work done. Yeah.
So all I want is a... Actually, that sure looks
like they've... Have you seen the Wyze phone?
W -Y -S -E? Crazy expensive. Is it? If it's the
one that I'm thinking of. Okay. There's a bunch
of different options here. Yes. Palma 2 Pro.
Yeah. 6 .13 color mobile e -paper. Yeah. I was
trying to see... Are you looking at this? 8 gigs
of RAM, 120 gigs of... Oh, it says ROM. Yeah,
it does. What I was trying to figure out, and
I don't see it calling it out directly, because
if it could truly be a phone, then it would be
like, it's amazing. It definitely has an earpiece,
Chris. Yeah, it has microphone, speaker, the
whole nine. Yeah, but if you're not doing it
as a phone, you don't need an earpiece like that.
No. That's very much pointed at somebody's ear.
Yeah. Oh, SIM card, micro SD. Where'd you see
SIM card? I saw the micro SD. SIM 1 micro SD.
Okay, so again, if I could turn this into a phone.
Hybrid SIM slot. Okay, if I could turn it into
a phone and you give me hotspot, then I'm feeling
pretty good because I'm going to be less likely
to grab my phone just because you don't get a
lot of that normal feedback that your phone is
designed to do to keep you staring at it like
you're brainless. Yeah. I like that, I mean,
this is weird, I get it, but I like that it still
uses a stylus. Yes. I know, like, there's a lot
of talk about stuff like that, but I, you know,
there's something about it. Yeah, I had been
looking at the... Ooh, it's got a 16 megapixel
rear camera. It's not 24, but 16's still better
than 12. I don't use the camera, so... Well,
I do. So what I've been looking at with them
is the book's note. air 5c um it's still expensive
it's 529 i mean it's not cheap yeah but the palma
2 pro is 379 yes yep yep yep so but yeah that
the mobile you were saying the air it's going
to say the you i'm going back to your point you
know what would it take for me to make sure i
have this thing with me everywhere and i almost
feel like i'd have to Just look like, well, I
don't know how else to say it. I would look like
a stooge because I'd be carrying some kind of
crossbody bag of holding type thing in order
to ensure that I have this with me everywhere
I go. Yeah, the crossbody is hard to not call
a purse. Yeah, yeah. For some of us. Does Lake
still use one? A purse? Well, the crossbody bag
thing. Yeah, his is a little bit different because
it's like a messenger bag, just vertical. Okay.
And it's leather, and that doesn't really help.
But, like, I don't know. It is a vertical messenger
bag. I don't know what they called those. Okay.
They had, like, a different name for them there
for a while. Yep. Yeah, I'd have to figure out
how to keep it with me. That'd be the thing.
Two in one case. I guess you were asking about
apps. Oh, what's this? Oh, courts at the game.
He's at the game? In Detroit. Really? Stars and
Red Wings. He's wearing his jersey? Well, he
just sent me a picture of the ice. Nice. That's
going to be fun for all you hockey lovers out
there. I don't have a dog in the hunt on that
game. Of course not. We live in Texas. Well,
that means that him and Jacob are going to be
going back and forth all night. Because Jacob
is the Stars fan. I mean, sure. What's IncSense
Plus Bundle? Hmm. Anyway, there's a lot of things
that it's worth. looking into how this could
change your way of doing things and keeping up
with it. But like to -do lists, I've tried so
many of these. One right now, I'm just using
the, because we've got Google stuff where we
work. I'm just using Google stuff, which is fine.
Like there's not, it's not amazing, but. I've
used Asana. I think Asana is fantastic. If you
can get your team to use it, it's really nice
for that kind of integration. Yeah. But I've
also never been on a team that really uses it.
This is why I've never actually used Slack. Okay.
We're kind of the lone wolf people with a lot
of this. You said Slack. I did. I said it. I
hate Slack. I mean, yeah. It's like drinking
from a fire hose. It's a lot of that, yeah. And
then when you've got to go back and find it,
the search doesn't work well for me. I don't
know if it's just because of maybe yours and
my personality. If you're really into social
media, I bet you love Slack. I go a different
route. I think Slack is really designed for people
who are ADHD. I think I would like it. I think
it flows well for people who are ADHD because
it's just like bing, bong, bing, bong, bing,
bong, bong. It's all over the place. Maybe that's
it because I can't trust it because of that.
Well, eventually I can find what I'm looking
for, but my biggest challenge with Slack is,
well, I know this person sent it, but I don't
see it in the direct messages. So that means
it came in a channel. Now I've got to go try
to find it. And eventually I can find out. Maybe
I just don't know how to use their search well.
But it is a nightmare. And sometimes I've had
to go, I know you sent this to me. I just don't
have it. I can't find it. Can you tell me where
you sent this at? And then I can go back. If
they remember, because if they're ADHD, they
probably don't. That's true. They may not remember
either. They're going to have to resend it to
you in a personal message. Yeah, I'm just not
a fan of Slack. Well, there you go. I know folks
at Pine Cove love it. So. Yeah, I think they're.
uh, too extroverted. I just like, I can't, I
can't be interrupted that much. And that's the,
like, that's the hard part about it to me is
that because, because I'm, I have a hard time
like remembering what I was working on, that
when I get pushed in a different direction, it
will be a while before I get back to what I was
doing. And even then, like I've sat down before
and been like, I was here today, right? Like
I, I don't remember anything. It's a very strange
feeling because if you're just like constantly
in like the groove of being pushed wherever somebody
is sending you in the moment, like it, it's not,
I mean, maybe I was helpful to them, but it feels
a lot like not like you arrived at home and you're
like, how did I get here? Have you ever done
that long drive? Not at the end of the day, but
I've had my fair share of getting to work and
going, I don't remember part of the drive. Yeah.
For sure. I've had that. And then I've had the
senior moments where you walk into a room and
you go, what was I here for again? Oh, man. All
the time. Those are the words. All the time.
It's like, oh, early onset Alzheimer's. No. That's
for sure. It's just like it's going to happen.
I do it all the time. Yeah, the not remembering
the drive, that scares me sometimes. Yeah, because
I'm like, were my eyes open? Yeah, I'm like,
was I just like so out of it, but yet on autopilot?
Because I've driven this so many times. How many
people did I run over? Well, I'm sitting there
going, you know, how likely would I have been
able to get in a wreck because I'm not fully
cranking on all cylinders yet. It's a weird feeling
for sure. Yeah, it is. Anyway. So, yeah, anybody
out there that would love to send some gear,
we'd love to try it. Always. Give some feedback.
If you want to send us a Pama 2 Pro or 2. An
Air 5C. I mean, yeah. Even if we have to send
it back, that's fine. Palma 2 Pro and you can
take the Air 5C. It is interesting to me that
there's this thing out there that may... I have
the hardest time embracing the fact that I might
one day not have blue bubbles for messages. Oh,
you'll survive. Because, see, that's what I even
like. You can put the widgets on. It's the peer
pressure. Chris, it's real. Why do you care what
other people think? Dude, let it go. I'm a pastor's
kid. But it's the most freeing thing to go, I
appreciate your input, and I'm probably going
to just let it drop. Thank you, though. If I
worried about what everybody said, I would be
just like my mom. And no, I couldn't live that
life. Sorry, Mom. You see, you've got your to
-do list and you've got your calendar. And then
I wouldn't necessarily try to fill the screen
up, but because it runs Android, it's so much
more than just notes. So I kind of want this.
And if I could find the right one of this, This
would literally turn into the dumbest of phones
that I can find as long as it had a dependable
hotspot. And there wouldn't be any more smartphone
in my pocket. But what if you had the Palma as
your smartphone? I could probably get by with
that. Because again, it's not color. It runs
Android, so you could technically have some of
the things there. So, yeah, I just want to get
rid of the technology. I know that's crazy for
a tech guy to go, I want to simplify the technology
and rip it out of my life. No, I think that's
who I hear it from more than anybody else. And
it's because when you, well, I don't know, I
can't say it's because. Like, that's not, I don't
think it's a simple answer. One of the reasons.
is because when you're working with it all the
time, like there's a level of like, I feel the
consumption of it more than everybody else does.
And, you know, I don't have an interaction with.
anymore that I don't feel like some sort of problem
solver. True. And when you're trying to turn
your brain off, that's a really bad feeling.
Yep. Well, one of the things that I've really
struggled with internally of late, probably the
last six months, maybe a year, is just kind of
looking at technology in general and what I have
in my life and just kind of going, Am I like
of the world in this and going, have I taken
it too far? I mean, I'd like to think that I'm
not a slave to the technology. Yeah. I know I
had technically have to have the phone for my
work. Right. But could you find ways to pull
back? You know, I just, I just want to find ways
to strip technology increasingly more out of
my personal life. And not feel like I'm just
like everybody else in the world and have all
this technology and all this gear. And some of
it's fun. I enjoy it. And I realize to some degree
it comes down to what are you doing with it?
Yeah. Because the technology inherently, there's
nothing wrong with it necessarily. No, it's amoral.
Yeah. Is it becoming a idol? In some ways, you
know, is there a level of, oh yeah, I've got
the Rodecaster and I've got this mic and I've
got this computer and I've got, and I've got,
and I've got, and it's just kind of like, maybe
you should take a pause and figure, figure that
out. But on the flip side, and this, this is
tech technology, but not this, like I'm wanting
to increasingly get more tools to do more. working
with wood. I'm not going to call myself a woodworker.
But I want to get more tools because I want to
do more of that. But to me, that's a way to disconnect
from this always -on connected world and go,
no, no, no, I'm shutting that out. Yeah, I'm
going to be listening to music because I'm going
to have my earbuds in and then put my ear protection
on. But it's me working with my hands. It feels
like you're kind of getting back. to the way
things used to be before technology. And you're,
and you're kind of, you're slowing down, you're
simplifying and you're just trying to stay focused
on the work that you're doing. And, you know,
it's going to take time to get the project done.
No big deal. Yeah. Um, you know, and I will go
to my grave saying that the internet was the
worst invention in the history of mankind. I
mean, the worst. It really does seem like everybody
talks about, well, there's a good side and a
bad side. It's like, yeah, but the bad side outweighs
the good side by a large margin. Like a large,
large margin. It's hard to find good sides on
the internet anymore. Yeah. Because, I mean,
I can't say it's social media. No. For some people
it may be. No. But for me, well, I mean, there's
people who are like, this is how I keep up with
family because they're so far away. I understand,
but I haven't seen a single person that's using
it. only for that and even if you're only using
it for that you can't tell me that there's not
some um comparison that's happening there because
everybody is always only putting their best stuff
on social media and the idea that that's everybody's
full life is oh my god it's bunk put it lightly
so but yeah i mean it's really hard for me to
find Things of the internet that are positive.
You know, it was supposed to be this magical
thing. We were going to have all this information
at our fingertips. We were going to be able to
learn more, be more intelligent, more capable.
And they sold us the bill of goods. And somewhere
along the way, it was a bait and switch. And
it's just turned into absolute trash. And I'm
sure like many other things, like... DVD and
VHS and other medias, the only thing keeping,
sadly, the internet going is all the porn. I
mean, if you strip that from the internet, there's
so little left. And then there's nothing to keep
the money flowing that keeps all this stuff happening.
So, I mean, yeah, to me, the internet is just,
I'll go to my grave. As of right now, It is the
worst invention in the history of mankind. So
much bad. It does seem like it's really tough
to live with it or live without it when everybody
else lives with it. Yeah. And that's part of
like one of the things I was thinking about while
you were talking about being able to separate
home life and everything is like the idea that
I could leave my phone at work when I went home
sounds really freeing. Oh, yeah. But I don't
know how many days I would get through before
somebody was frustrated with me for not being
reachable at my home. Yeah. Yeah. Or by text.
The only way that I've ever been able to achieve
that is I've had to take a cruise and be like,
hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm literally leaving the
country. Yeah, I'm not talking about vacation.
I'm not paying for a plan on that boat. I'm out,
folks. Lori is a little bit like militant about
me doing work. While we're on vacation. Oh, yeah.
It's like, I mean, even if we're not on a cruise,
it's like, no, you're not doing that. I pull
out my phone. She's like, what are you doing?
I was on Instagram. On social media. Put it away.
Yikes. She's going to start taking your fingers
off. I mean, seriously. But I'm talking about
like everyday life. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah,
to think that you could go home, turn this off,
and say, see you at 8 a .m., that'd be amazing.
Right? It'd be amazing. Just part of the nature
of working in technology, being in charge of
networks and AV equipment and things of that
nature, it's very much like being a doctor. but
you're very much on call all the time. All the
time. And you never know when that call is coming
that there's an emergency and someone's dying.
Well, and I will tell you, it's so funny because
I would say the number of times that I'm called
and it's not an emergency by any stretch of the
imagination is a little bit... It's emergency
to them. Yeah. But it's not necessarily a true
emergency. No. Like, stop, please. You constantly
have to police that and walk through that and
go, especially like for us in summer. Yeah. Everybody
views everything as an emergency. Everything
is burning down. Yeah. And it's like, I understand
in your world right now, things are burning to
the ground. It's bad. I have all these other
problems that I'm currently working on, so I
will get to you when I can. I'm sorry I can't
get to you faster. Yeah. And you have to kind
of process and work through that. That's real.
Yep. Real talk, folks, here at Beer and Gear.
Got to keep it real. Got to keep it real. Welcome
to the world. I'm sorry, welcome to the land
of the real. Of the real. There's your Matrix
reference, folks. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. Why
does it smell so good? I mean, I will tell you.
I think the graham cracker that I was smelling
before is like that vanilla inside of it that's
a little bit. It's like a hint. It's not like
you don't drink it and think, oh, that's vanilla.
It's like it's part of the smooth. It's part
of the sweet part of it that's really understated.
Yeah. I don't think they put vanilla in it. I
know there's chocolate in it. And I know they
put a little bit of sugar. Definitely sugar.
Unless there's something in that barrel. Or the
barrels that they're using that impart some vanilla
from the previous liquid owner of the barrel.
I mean, that could be a possibility and you kind
of pick some of that up. Coffee, chocolate, married
with sweet undertones of vanilla and oak. Yep,
they're calling it out. But I don't know where
that's coming from. If it's oak, like vanilla
and oak, then yeah, that would make sense if
it was coming from the cask or the... whatever
barrel it was aged in. We just need to start
brewing this kind of beer and use that as an
exit strategy. I mean, if we could achieve something
like this, then I feel like we're done. Yeah,
because we have breweries here, but they're not
doing this type of stuff. No. I mean, the Archangel
is good. It's a blended. You know, they've got
some others, but it's nothing like this. No.
And there's certainly nothing in town that even
comes close to Triple Mash. No. So if you could
figure this out. And I'll say, like, we've got
bourbon barrels in Tyler. Yeah, we do. You know,
there's a bunch of, not just Keepersaw, there's
a few others. Like, you can get the bourbon barrels.
Yes. You just got to then put your beer in it
for three months and wait. I'm sure it's more
complicated than that. Oh, sure. Sure. Oh, so
good, man. So good. And it never, ever tastes
like 11%. No. And that triple mash, that's 18.
Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't like, you don't.
It drinks so smooth. So when you're drinking
like a. 110 proof or something like that, you
start to get that like, oh, this is fire. It's
not alcohol. This is not something to be drank.
This is something to be burned. This is supposed
to be like an antiseptic. Are we cleaning engines?
Yeah, I don't think this is a good idea for me.
Yeah. But that's not the case with these. I don't
know if it's just because in the grand scheme
of things, the percentage that we're talking
about is not a huge jump, but it is double. Oh,
yeah. You know, what you're used to. Absolutely.
Because 5 .5 is a strong beer. Typically, yes.
Yeah. Yep. This thing is 11%. Oh, it's so good.
And Chris is on his second. I'd go for a three
and four if I could. Well, you might have to
drink that third one. Challenge accepted. I don't
really have anything else. Okay. Well, I have
a... Now, this gets geeky, and I'm not sure I
can fully explain it all. Oh, where'd that page
go? Oh. No. Because this is a long overdue Linux
exploit. Oh, yeah. Because I had to do. Yeah,
the exploit. Because this one is a high. That's
it. Where do all the extra details go? Oh, come
on, man. I don't know, Chris. I'm turning into
Joe Biden. Come on, man. No, I don't think you
are. Well, that's what he says. Come on, man.
That's not what's going on. It's not going into
the details. I need the details. As some people
would say, I need the deets. And then I would
feel the urge to want to shake them for saying
I need the deets. You couldn't, that one syllable
was really too much. Yeah, that's. We were talking
about that on our way over here today. About
the lack of, I don't know, follow through. Yes.
Like, can you just finish the word? It's not
really that hard. The rest of us are waiting
on you to finish your sentence. Well, I feel
like I'm leading everybody along here now. Yeah,
no, it's not going to happen, guys. Might as
well turn the episode off here. No, I'm trying,
I'm trying, I'm trying. Oh, man. I need the epic
fail jingle. Epic fail. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. There
you go. That'll work. That'll work. Oh, that
one says it's been resolved. That's no good.
Boo! Mother... Mother puss bucket. That's your
fill -in. Did you ever, so on this Christmas
episode when we're talking about things Christmas,
the greatest Christmas movie ever made, Die Hard.
Oh, yeah. Did you ever see Brooklyn Nine -Nine?
I've just seen bits and pieces. I never really
watched it all. There's an episode where they
are stopping a... robbery or something they stumble
into people trying to um steal stuff i think
from um uh what is it called like a department
store um and i it's there's it's all kinds of
convoluted but they like you know the main character
in brooklyn line nine loves uh die hard and so
he's joking about how this is the not joking
he's like really excited about how this is, this
is diehard and he's, it's Christmas and he's
trying to save the people that are kidnapped
by the terrorists slash thieves. And so anyway,
the, he keeps getting kind of thwarted by his
buddy who's a nerd and, but he's like super excited
about being there. And he's like, is trying to
relate to him, you know, wanting it to be Die
Hard or whatever, says, yippee -ki -yack, other
buckets. That's one way to clean it up. That's
not what he says. And he's like, yeah, it is.
Okay. No, definitely not what he says. I'm pretty
sure it is. No, that's not what he says. That's
one way to clean it up. I always tell people
that that's one of Laurie's favorite movies.
She did not watch that movie until we were...
had been married for a while. Yeah. You tell
me about that for wrapping. Um, but she watches
it now to wrap a presence and she just like,
she didn't know how funny Bruce Willis was and
how funny this movie is. Um, so there, you know,
it's serious. It's not a comedy. Sure. Like there,
you know, we always had the running thing with
some friends of mine about whether or not, um,
con air takes itself seriously and i'm like i
understand what you're saying that it doesn't
take itself seriously yeah but i think that is
an offshoot of like this idea that um that kind
of started with die hard and some of these others
that like these action movies need to be i mean
it didn't it didn't really start with die hard
i will tell you this is a james bond like What
happens is you have these action heroes that
need to be a little bit like they're so comfortable
with the violence that they have to be a little
bit funny in the midst of it as well. And when
you overdo that to the point where you've got
a huge Airbus crashing into Las Vegas and then
there's a... chase scene on a fire truck like
yeah there's like you've overdone it so much
that now you're also having to overdo the like
at that point you're all in quirkiness yeah the
like funny in the midst of it so the line um
i don't even remember something about uh do something
and the bunny gets it like yeah put down the
gun or the money dies or something like that.
It's like, well, of course. Of course. You also
had a guy who's in there for raping a lot of
women. This is too... I don't know. I have mixed
reviews, but Die Hard is definitely that... You
don't expect the main character to say funny
things. Correct. Yippee -ki -yay is not her favorite
line. No. I'll just say it's the one after the
deputy police chief complains about the glass.
Yeah. That is so funny. And if I understand correctly,
that wasn't in the script, the yippee -ki -yay.
He made that up. Really? I'm reasonably certain
on some random YouTube video. Did he choose Roy
Rogers or was that in the script? That I don't
know. Okay. That'd be interesting. Because the
Yippee -ki -yay is directly tied to him saying
he was always a fan of Roy Rogers. Those sequined
shirts. Did you find it? I found one that will
work. I just did a masterful job. You did. You
did. You held it together. Stalling. You did.
You held it together. Well done, sir. For that,
you should open the other beer. I've got to finish
this one. Lightweight. Okay, so this is Linux
technically. It's related to Chrome. Not a lightweight.
I just drink slow. That's lightweight. Okay.
You're pacing yourself. Come on, man. That's
not what's happening. That's cheating. Next thing
you know, you're going to be telling me you ate
a bunch of bread before we started the show.
I talk too much. Okay, so this has to do with
Chrome, and it can give users full control, which
is never what you want. I'm sorry? This exploit
could give an attacker full control. At that
point, it's game over. At that point, they may
as well just have their hands on the equipment.
Because this isn't the one that I previously
looked at, I'm going to have to just do a bunch
of reading. Bear with me, folks. It's going to
be great. As long as the beer didn't kick in.
If he starts slurring the words, then you know.
This is a crazy exploit. Yes. Okay. A critical
vulnerability in the Linux kernel identified
as CVE -2025 -38 -236 enables attackers to escalate
privileges from the Chrome renderer sandbox to
full kernel -level control on affected systems.
Yeah, I missed all of that. Yeah. Immediate patching
is essential as successful exploitation grants
attackers complete control over the operating
system's core. That's just straight up bad news.
Yeah, that doesn't sound good. No, because again,
if they've achieved full access, it's game over.
You may as well just opened up the server room
and said, have your way, boys. Go for it. Yeah,
I don't... I don't know what would be worse than
that. I guess just letting them be in there.
Basically, yeah. I mean, that's like just open
the door and say, here you go. Do your worst.
Honest, this one has a score of 7 .3, so that's
pretty high. That's pretty high. That is a –
as soon as a – 7 .3 out of 7 .5. I believe it's
out of 10. Yeah, I know. But it's high enough
that once there is a fix, you sure better apply
it. Don't play games. Do not – oh, that's crazy
small phone. I ain't reading that. I was trying
to get some more details on the CVE. Some of
the details are really, really small, which means
that they're so scared of you knowing this that
they're not even going to put it in a reasonable
font. Okay, so here's the exploitation method.
Big words. Initial access. Attackers begin with
the Chrome renderer sandbox. You all hear that
bike in the background? That's a lot, guys. We're
trying to record a show here. Really loud. Okay,
try again. Attackers begin with a Chrome renderer
sandbox, potentially via drive -by compromise
or malicious web content. Then they go to the
targeting vulnerability. A crafted set of socket
operations is used to exploit a bug in the Unix
domain sockets. From there, they go to kernel
memory manipulation. You don't want to be found
in invalid memory. Invalid memory. Oh, man. That's
an IT crowd joke for all you people that are
hanging in there. Wow. Yes. Exploiting the UAF
condition, attackers gain the ability to copy
arbitrary kernel memory into user space. This
is getting bad fast. Yeah. Privilege escalation.
Kernel -level privileges are obtained bypassing
sandbox restrictions. So basically what's happening
here. If you don't know what a kernel is, you
need to stop. Well, you're listening to the wrong
show. Yeah. And if you don't know what the sandbox
is, you're probably on the wrong show as well.
Basically, what they're achieving here is what
I'm waiting for somebody to figure out on a Mac.
Because they're talking about, I'm in the sandbox.
I'm in this protected spot. I can't get out of
here. Yeah. Oh, wait, I just got out. Yeah. That's
the way that the Mac handles security. Which
is why. I feel like they doubled down on this
kernel security a couple of years ago to try
to limit things like this. Certain apps will
tell you that they're not going to run on a Mac
because they don't have kernel access. And it's
because they're trying to limit the number of
vulnerabilities in that range. this is one of
those like having your cake and eating it too
moments for a lot of Mac users where they're
like, Oh, I like Mac. So like, but are you, are
you going to keep doing what you're doing? Because
that doesn't jive with the security level. Sure.
That Mac's trying to maintain. Correct. With
all their stuff. So I don't know. I think there's
a lot of people that in the last, for uh three
years um two or three years um that are mac users
that have seen a little when they booted up their
mac or uh and you know did their software update
they've seen a little gray window appear in the
front of them that talks about legacy software
and if you actually read it it's talking about
kernel access yeah um which nobody reads that
they just hit no or okay okay move on whatever
i mean the number of people that haven't read
the eula is incredible to me oh sure um but i
mean you know you just said that you you don't
own anything right okay i'm just making sure
you knew that yep um but like yeah it's a lot
yep yep so They're trying to be secure, but it's
inevitable. It's a matter of time that somebody's
going to figure it out. Oh, sure. Just like what
happened here. Because again, with this one,
they talk about with root level access, attackers
can disable security tools, implement backdoors,
and move laterally within networks. So eventually
somebody's going to figure this out with Mac.
Right. And then all hell's going to break loose.
Because how many people run... any kind of antivirus,
endpoint protection. I will tell you. Any kind
on their Mac. That a person was talking to me
recently about their Mac and whether or not they
needed to run an antivirus on it because they
were running an antivirus and a VPN. Okay. And
I was like, well, I will tell you, this is probably
the most secure Mac that I've seen in a while.
And that's saying something. Sure. Like, I don't
know that, like, you're causing, this is a pretty
basic end user, all things considered. I was
like, you're running into problems with your
connection because of how sophisticated you're
trying to make your security side of things.
And it's not that I'm telling you not to do that.
I think this is great. Yep. Do your thing. But.
The reason that you're calling me is because
these things aren't playing nice together. Correct.
And you've got to kind of overcome that in order
to. Yep. Yep. It's pretty crazy. So I would tell
anybody, yes, you need to run antivirus slash
EDR, whatever flavor you want to go with. Do
you have a recommendation? I like Sentinel -1,
but that's not necessarily great for people at
home. In business, I like it. One that still
does a reasonably good job on the Mac is Malwarebytes.
Yeah, Malwarebytes still does that. Still use
that from time to time on a PC to help with cleanup.
Yeah. I actually think that's what these people
were using. Okay. Yeah. So on the VPN... SentinelOne
is just SentinelOne .com for anybody who's...
Yes. I'm trying not to go down that rabbit hole,
but to me, the VPN is basically kind of useless
in my opinion. Well, I was telling this... family
that was that was using a vpn i was like i don't
i don't think you understand what a vpn does
sure because they they saw it as a security measure
and i'm like i understand that that's what it's
like yeah used as now in terms of its privacy
sure in certain environments it works well in
that you appear to not be coming from the place
that you're coming from correct but correct the
idea that you're being targeted and a really
small town in East Texas because of where you
are is not realistic. I think using a VPN, again,
you have to kind of consider your environment.
But if you're using somebody's... free wifi somewhere
and there's no password to join. It's just wide
open. It's unencrypted. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You
should probably put a VPN on and protect yourself.
Yeah. If you're at least being required to use
a password because there's some level of encryption
going on, could you still run the VPN? Yeah,
sure. But you're probably going to be okay unless
your desire is again to prevent the service provider
of that network from having direct access to
what you're doing. And some people want that,
and that's fine. But I still believe that the
only reason these VPN services exist, and I'm
not going to go any further with this because
that's a whole other subject, is... They're giving
all that information to the government anyways.
You think that you're protecting yourself and,
oh man, nobody knows, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah. Oh, bull crap. When you hear
the people... Well, I definitely think that the
idea that nobody knows is bull crap, but the
idea that they are doing it in order to... To
circumvent... It's all junk. That's interesting.
I mean, when I hear... The people in the FBI
talking about, oh, people can't have encryption
because we can't see it, or they can't have VPNs
because we can't see it. You're talking about
people actually listening to the FBI. I'm pretty
sure that the people who are listening, I'm doing
air quotes, listening to the FBI are listening
to the... TV show, FBI. Sure. But I mean, you
have people before Congress sitting there going,
if people have access to this, we can't see this.
I will tell you Congress. Yeah. And Congress
members don't know anything like that was. No,
no. If you want to like see something that'll
make you feel like a really smart individual,
watch the, um, the tick tock. About the island
tipping over? Well, no, that one was ridiculous.
That's a different level of stupid. No, the guy
from Singapore that was interviewed by Congress
about TikTok. I think it was TikTok. Anyway,
he got asked some questions that I was like,
are you kidding me? I feel like I know what you're
referencing. And I remember him going. I'm not
Chinese. Yeah. Yeah. That one was definitely
part of it where he was like the guy who didn't
understand where Singapore was. Yes. And he kept
asking if he was part of the Chinese communist.
Party, yeah. And he was like, no, I'm Singaporean.
I'm from Singapore. I'm from Singapore. He's
like, I don't know where that is. I'm like, okay,
well, you should probably not be where you are.
Why don't you go talk to Congressman Johnson
and ask him about the island tipping over because
there's too many military. No, I'm talking about
when he got asked if TikTok connects to his home
network. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. I mean, not
if you're not connected to your home. Like if
you're connected, if you're on TikTok and connected
to your home network, it has to in order to reach
the internet. But like it was that moment where
somebody who knows what they're talking about
is going, you don't know that there's not like
you're not. Yep. Yep. There's a lot of late.
Literally, there's a lot of layers that you're
missing. Correct. Correct. So, yeah, and TikTok
is a whole other level of insanity. I'm not saying
you should get on TikTok. I'm just saying that
this person who is talking to Congress knows
what he's talking about. Sure. And they don't.
And they don't. But, yeah, but I mean, to me,
the whole thing with TikTok is a farce. If I'm
on TikTok and I put my headphones in, can you
hear what I'm thinking? Yeah. No. Can you hear
what you're thinking? I don't think they can
sometimes either. But yeah, TikTok is a whole
other level of like, y 'all are full of it. Because
they're complaining about TikTok. Well, they're
tracking this and they're tracking that and they're
tracking that. And it's like, yes, Facebook does
it. Instagram does it. Snapchat does it. The
only reason why you're complaining about TikTok
is because the Chinese aren't sharing that data
with you like the other guys are. It's important
to know that. That's the whole point of it. Yeah.
is the government is not getting the data from
TikTok that they want, which is why they're trying
to get these guys in America to supposedly buy
TikTok so that they can now have access to all
this additional data. It's all about the information.
It's not about the Chinese. It's not about security.
Don't buy into the junk. But that's another discussion
for another show. I mean... Maybe next show we'll
talk about that. Who knows? Well, next show is
50. Next show we probably actually should play
a drinking game. It's the 50th. Well, listen
to... Never mind. I'm not doing that. I'm not
doing that. We're not doing that. I've seen a
few card games that were drinking games. Now,
some of them we have to probably throw the cards
out, but there's one called Drink If. Yeah. So
you can... Imagine some of the cards that are
potentially there where you're like, nope, not
good for this show. We're not saying that on.
This one is actually family friendly. Here we
go, folks. All right. So, yeah. So there you
go. It sounded like you were about to say something
else. I had to shut my brain down. Okay. Well,
there you go. So I do have one other thing to
talk about. Drink when you hear us say, well,
there you go. Oh, boy. Drink if you hear this
word. Or you basically do beer and gear bingo.
I mean, I'd be interested. But if you see it,
if they say what's in your square, you take a
drink. Yeah. So I wish that I had some, and I
probably do. I just need to do more digging into
this. But I've been looking at our numbers from
OP3. Yes. You were trying to pull those up desperately
while we were starting. Yes. So something very
strange happened, and I'm left to assume it was
bots. Okay. Because it doesn't show any actual
non -bot downloads. But on the release of the
last show, speaking of, I didn't mean for that
show to be called Fun Times. I just had to put
a placeholder in. And I woke up the next day.
And it went out like that. And what are you going
to do? Oh, I didn't change the title. But on
that release day, we had 117 downloads. Yeah,
that doesn't sound right. But of those, six of
them were considered not bot traffic. Okay. But
I'm sitting there going, I'm like, okay, so what
are the bots like? Because I'd love to know.
Because something made them. The fact that it's.
The reaction to that is, so how can we do that
again? Well, yeah. I mean, I look at the numbers
and I'm like, I see, okay, that show did well.
Okay, that's fine. That show bombed. That show
did well. And I look at that and I go, is it
literally because I called it fun times that
all the bots went, oh, this must be a great show.
That'd be great. I'm in favor. Because roughly
four days later, we got another. Yeah, I read
that right. 46 downloads on one day. Wow. And
again, none of them translated into non -bot
downloads. Interesting. So we had like 150 semi
-bot downloads. And I'm sitting here going, how
many people are out there just scraping stuff
based off of a show called Fun Times? That's
weird. It is. It is. So, I mean, it makes our
numbers look great. I mean, in the last 30 days,
we've had 261 downloads. Take that, Joe Rogan.
In the last seven days. You mean Henry Rollins.
Henry Rollins. There you go. Start calling him
Joe Rollins. Joe Rollins. There you go. But in
the last seven days, because of this, we've had
171 downloads. There you go. But when you look
at that. And so in December, we've had the 171,
but 130 of those have been unique. Interesting.
But it's probably like 100 of those have been
bots. Yeah, I get that. So it's fun to watch
these numbers. And especially when you compare
it against what rss .com shows. And RSS is just
like, man, we don't have those numbers. I don't
know what you're talking about. Yeah, that's
not a real thing. So yeah, I feel like I need
to reach out to somebody at OP3 and go, do you
do like, Zoom trainings to be able to understand
this and realize what's happening. What do I
need to do in order to be able to read this data?
Yeah. All right, brother. All right. Well, I
enjoyed it. It was another good show. Really
good beer. Really good beer. Thank you. Thank
you, Ethan. Bring in your gift for both of us
to enjoy. Sure. How could I get Dragon's Mill
and not share it? I mean, bro, I appreciate that,
but there's a lot of people who wouldn't. Oh,
man. You got to share the good stuff when you
get it. Yeah. Don't be a Scrooge. A Scrooge,
yeah. Don't be a Scrooge. Don't be a Grinch.
Share. Share and share alike. All right. All
right. See you, everybody. See you. If you want
the two seed, if you want a home playoff game,
if you want to win the NFC North, onside. Oh,
no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Onside. Did Dobbs lose that
ball on the onside? Are you joking? It's Bears
ball. Are you freaking kidding me? And it's Chicago
ball. Why can't we have nice things? Why can't
we have nice things? I've got to be kidding me.
Are you serious? Are you serious? How do you
not look? Why is Dobbs backing up? Just catch
the ball. Romeo, what are you doing? Romeo, what
a great game he was having, too. Oh, no. Dobbs,
why are you taking your eye off the ball like
you need to run? Just secure it. Oh my god. It's
second and two. Balls on the 32 of Green Bay.
Thank you, Anonymous. Caleb and shotgun fires
and it is caught. Of course, it's DJ Moore at
the 12. Everything hurts. It hurts so much. This
is pain. Just nothing but pain. My heart is pounding.
Williams. Gun. Two receivers. Each side. Fires.
Hits Loveland. Tight ends. Continue to kill on
this drive. Why do we run cover three every play?
No, they're going to get a post on you. God.
Hide -ins are destroying on this drive. Loveland
and Komet. Back -to -back -to -back -to -back
-to -back. My team can't recover an onside kick.
Balls at the six. Caleb Williams in shotgun with
a back line up to his right. 35 seconds to go.
Takes a snap. Fires towards the end zone. And
it is high and incomplete. Third and four. Looking
for Zaccheaus. In the gun. Swift in the backfield.
Backers showing blitz. They bring it. Gray Walker
in pursuit. Back in the end zone. Oh, no. Touchdown,
Bears. Fuck. Yep. Got it. Why are you so open?
Oh, my gosh. They're an extra point away from
tying. Somehow a bust. Somehow nobody was back
there. It's unbelievable. This is unbelievable.
Keyshawn Nixon. Keyshawn Nixon. We're not going
to go for two. Kick is up. Nope, it's good. It
is a tie game. I hate everything. This is awful.
This is so, so bad. You were up 16. It's fourth
and one. All right, they're going for it, or
at least they're lining up to go for it. From
the 36, this could be it. Excuse me, Willis under
center. Oh, my gosh, balls on the turf. Balls
out. Oh. Are you serious? They fumbled the ball.
They fumbled the ball. They fumbled the ball.
They fumbled the ball. They fumbled the freaking
ball. What an embarrassment, man. What a freaking
embarrassment. What an embarrassment. What a
freaking embarrassment. We just imploded. That
is unbelievable. That is crazy. Division season
on the line. a spot for the number two seed in
the NFC. For the lead in the NFC North. And this
is what you do. You can't recover an onside kick.
You can't snap it. Come on, Pac. Please, just
throw an interception. Caleb rolling out to his
right has all day. Finally getting flushed out
and is just going to throw it away incomplete.
Second and ten. 6 .02 to go. What an embarrassment,
dude. Yeah, the Packers have done everything
in their power to lose this game. Everything
in their power. Wasn't his fault, but it looked
like it. It might have been. I mean, it sure
looks like it, but we'll see. I'm sure half of
it will talk about it. Next score wins. 602.
Hand off. Swift. Met at the line by Quay Walker.
Drags his six yards. Fumble. Fumble. Fumble.
The ball came out. What are they ruling it? It's
Parker's ball. Yes. Yes. Yes. What's the call?
We got it. We got it. We got it. Let's go. Let's
go. Oh. Okay, Walker brings him down, brings
him down, brings him down, brings him down. He's
not on the ground yet. He's down. That's not
a fumble. Come on. Why are you even marking that?
It's not a fumble. He's freaking down. Just a
bunch of losers, man. That's it. Just a bunch
of losers. There's winners in life. There's losers
in life. This team's full of a bunch of losers.
They are. They've been doing a lot of that in
the fourth quarter. Yep. Third and three. And
motion. Hand off. First down. First down. They
can't stop a nosebleed. Thank you for the 20.
This is just, dude, I mean, this is so bad. I
mean, this is just a failure on so many food
levels. And you're freaking under center. You
know who could snap it under center? Me. When
I was seven years old. When I was freaking seven
years old. It was complex at the time when I
was a first grader. Man, it made my head spin.
But we got it done. But we did it. We snapped
the damn football. The 46 of Green Bay. I formation
here. And Williams under center. Play action.
Come on, get some pressure on him. He's going
for it all. He's going deep, and it's going to
be a touchdown. DJ Moore catches it. Packers
lose. Touchdown. Game. Division. Game over. That's
absolutely insane. What a disastrous end for
the Packers, man. What a horrible end to that
game. What a joke. What a freaking joke. Team's
full of a bunch of losers. Full of a bunch of
losers. Oh, dude, that is absolutely fucking
insane. That is absolutely fucking insane what
just went down. I don't even, I don't even have
any words. I don't have any words. Can't recover.
Onside kick.