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Hey Chris, what's up? Not much. How you doing,

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John? Yeah, it's a very merry episode. Yes, it

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is. For a number of reasons. Yes. Number one,

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obviously, is that we're recording this, though

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it has not been released yet. Correct. On Christmas

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Eve Eve. Yes, we are. A full complement of 26

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shows in one year. We did it. Yeah, I don't know

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how we did that. This is where we need the like...

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Clap. Do you get the clap and the board over

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there? Oh, I muted that. No, that was cricket.

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Hold on. Let me find the applause. There you

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go. Yes. Yes. Look at us being, you know, part

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of the problem. Anyway, so, yeah, crazy, crazy.

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And this has been like a weird year for getting

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all 26 in. Yeah, it has. Like, I don't. I would

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have expected us to do that earlier on. Sure.

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This year, I wouldn't have predicted that. No.

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By any stretch of the imagination. Nope. It's

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just, there's been too much going on. I agree.

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What was the name of our first show this year?

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This year. Do you have that? Putting me on the

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spot. I mean, only because you brought it up.

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Oh, I see what you did there. No, that's not.

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The first show of 25 was Audio Sigma with A Christmas

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Ale. Oh, yeah, because we were talking about

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Audio Sigma. I think that was my solo show. Yeah,

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you did the solo show. We talked about Audio

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Sigma, the last show of 2024. And that's going

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to be interesting. I'm not going to say the title

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out right now, but we'll talk about the title

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in a minute, and you'll get the connection. Kind

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of a coincidence here. But that's funny. Audio

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Sigma is still a big fan. Way to go, Mike. Oh,

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yeah. I love it. I still play around with it

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at the house. Good gear. Good guy. Hey, what

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are we drinking? Oh, yes. Did you bring it? I

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did. It's my favorite. Yes. Well, it's not my

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favorite. It's going to be good. I don't know.

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It's one of my favorites. And then I can't guarantee,

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but let me get this out first and then I'll go

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into the next piece because it depends on court.

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If he comes through like he's supposed to, we

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will have something very, very, very special.

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So not only is this our 26th show of this year,

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it's our 49th show altogether. And so next show,

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is 5 -0. The big one. So we're going to ask Jason

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Court to come on, hang out with us a little bit.

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In memory of him, we have something that he brought

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to us a long time ago. Correct. So tonight we're

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bringing it back. The episode that released on

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the 24th of December of 24 was Audio Sigma with

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a Dragon's Milk Chaser. And so here we are, last

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show of 25, Dragon's Milk again. Just sheer coincidence.

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I love it. That's great. Yeah, we didn't plan

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this at all, folks, because we don't plan things.

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So I have to say thank you to Ethan. I don't

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know if he'll be listening or not, but he actually

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gave this to me as a Christmas gift. Thank you,

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Ethan. And I'm like, dude, that's awesome. Thank

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you very much. Perfect for the show. I don't

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even know Ethan that well. He gave me a Christmas

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present. Yes, I will credit him with supplying

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the beer for the show. I really appreciate you,

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Ethan. Anybody can supply beer for the show.

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We'll drink it. Yeah. No, absolutely. And yes,

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I would even try a blonde if that's what people

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share. Because we did that. We did do that. The

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Flair guys brought us a growler. Yeah. And I

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drank it. Drank it. Fish soap, but I drank it.

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Chris doesn't quit on beer. No, I'm not going

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to quit a beer. Okay, well. All right. I'm so

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excited. Okay, so I'm glad you brought your opener

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because I don't have one here with me. Handy

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dandy opener? Handy dandery. Technically, I have

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two. It's not quite as I was expecting. This

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works too. That's great. Okay. Cheers. Dragon's

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milk is a bourbon barrel aged stout. So all of

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the goodness I did buy for our Christmas gatherings

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this, um, this year, I bought a, uh, a bottle

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of, um, Cooper and thief, which is a red wine.

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That is, I think the one that I got is the, uh,

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Cabernet. I'm pretty sure you've told me about

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that one before. Yeah, it's bourbon barrel aged.

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So I'm just saying. There's a bunch now that

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like they have all these different varietals

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of this. I'm like, okay. I mean, I'm glad it's

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becoming a thing because I really like it. Yeah.

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Cheers. I love the smell of this. Yeah. What

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is that? What are you getting? Because I got

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like graham cookie in my nose right now. No,

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I'm getting the bourbon. Just a hint. I don't

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get any graham cookie, though. Well, I just drank

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a whole lot of Dr. Pepper. Well, you needed to

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cleanse your palate. All right, here we go. Here

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we go. Cheers. It's good. 49. 49. Woo -woo. Oh,

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man. It's so good. It's so good. Well done. Well

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done, guys. The Michigan boys know how to make

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some good beer. Between Dragon's Milk and Founders,

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they've got it rolling. I'm going to say I like

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Dragon's Milk more than Founders. I agree. This

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says throughout the ages, Dragon's Milk has been

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a, oh, wow. Okay, so this is like not a great.

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Font color, but I'm going to work really hard

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to make that happen. Go against the bottle, yeah.

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Throughout the ages, dragon's milk has been a

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term used to describe potent ales that were bestowed

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in celebration of the end of a journey. Oh, that's

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nice. Our signature stout carries on that tradition

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today. Roasted malt delivers notes of coffee

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and chocolate. Married with sweet undertones

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of vanilla and oak. Oak? I'm not really getting

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oak. No. From a three -month stay in bourbon

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barrels to create a truly legendary blend of

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flavors. I'll go with legendary. It's even called

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the Legendary Dragons. Legend? Wait for it. Dairy.

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Wait for it, and I hope you're not lactose intolerant,

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because the last part of this word is dairy.

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Yes. Oh. I did find out this morning that one

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of my nieces is lactose intolerant. I was like,

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oh, that sucks. Poor girl. Sorry. Poor girl.

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She's allergic to gluten and dairy, and I was

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like, that's a tough life. I don't think I'd

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make it. No, no, no, no. Well, I was that way

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when I was first born. Really? I couldn't have

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anything milk at all. So I was a soy and fruit

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juice baby. That's interesting. And I stayed

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sick all the time. I couldn't go, like even something

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as simple as a neighbor mowing the yard would

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set me off. I was allergic to it. I don't think

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I've ever heard of a baby not being able to drink

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milk. Couldn't have strawberries. Couldn't have

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chocolate. Couldn't have ice cream. That's the

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worst. It is. But as I got older, whatever it

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was, it grew out of my system. And I do love

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me some dairy now. Oh, cheese, man. Oh, cheese.

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Oh, cheese. I'm not a Packers fan. No, not a

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cheese head, but cheese. Yeah, definitely. Speaking

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of Packers, did you watch that game? Nope. You

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didn't watch? Nope. Have you seen the highlights?

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Nope. Oh, dude. I know nothing. I know nothing.

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Oh. All I'm going to say then, because I don't

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want to ruin it for you, because I want to watch

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the highlights as we. Okay. The Bears actually

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got a win. Nice. We beat the pack. Yeah. For

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what? A football game is 60 minutes. So for.

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58 minutes of regulation. They beat the tar out

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of us. Really? And then magic happened. And we

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went into overtime. That's incredible. We'll

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watch the highlights afterwards. So this is going

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to be a little mean, but all you Packers fans

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can kiss my hind end. I mean, they can't get

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upset. There's been a lot of the other direction.

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Oh, of course. Of course. For 33 years, they

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have. Now it is 56 wins to them, 17 losses to

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us. So it's way ever since Brett Favre, man.

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I had to live through Brett Favre. They lost

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17 times to you. Yeah, they've lost 17 times

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to us, but they beat us 56 times. Yeah. So I've

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had to live through Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers,

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and now Jordan Love. Yeah. And it's just kind

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of like you can't put three quarterbacks together

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like that. That's not fair. That's not fair.

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So I'm hoping. We get a shift, but we'll see.

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Well, I mean, yes. Green Bay has had some good

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quarterbacks. Yes. The Bears have made some questionable

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choices. Oh, yeah. Continue to. I don't really

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understand the letting go of the desire to have

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a defense. Yep. But anyway. So we'll get back

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to that later. But here is. where I need court

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to come through because he's in Michigan. He's

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supposed to go to visit dragon's milk. And I

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told him, take pictures. No, no, no, no. You

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let me know what they have and I will send you

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a money via cash app. So you can buy this and

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bring it back. I like that plan. So they have

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three that I'm trying to get my hands on. Plus

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if they have it, I want triple mash. Is he driving

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back or flying back? He is driving back. So he

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can bring kegs. Oh, I wish. I wish. So if they

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have triple mash, he's going to let me know.

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I'm going to buy as much of it as I can afford.

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Nice. Do you remember triple mash? That was amazing.

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That was really good. 18 % and it drank so smooth.

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It drank just like this. It's very nice. Okay.

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The bite in this is very bourbon bite. It is.

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And it's good. So this one. I'm willing to give

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it a try because I've had a similar one and it

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was okay. Okay. They have a coconut rum barrel

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reserve stout. I'm willing to give it a try.

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I don't like coconut. I'm willing to give it

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a try. I see what you're saying. I just don't

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like coconut. Now this next one, challenge accepted.

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I'm going to drink it all by myself. Okay. It

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is the dragon's milk. Dungeons and Dragons, D20

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brew, 20%. So because of the 20 -sided dice,

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they just were like, we're going to go 20. Look

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at the bottle. Oh, my gosh. 20 -sided dice, and

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it's got a wax seal. It's got a wax seal. Guys,

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this is a beer that has a wax seal. Yes. And

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I'm like, if they've got it, you let me know.

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I want it. Well, I mean, you could bring two

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of them and it'd be fine. Well, I want that for

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show 50. That'd be great. We're all going to

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be laid out. So we're going to take two hours

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for this show so that we can drive home afterwards.

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Exactly. That's hilarious. And then they have

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one left. I seriously doubt they've got it, and

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I seriously doubt I'll be able to afford it.

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But this is 100 proof. I'm sorry? Dragon's Milk

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Dungeons and Dragons Origin Mead Cask. Look at

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that bottle. With that dragon's head. Okay, I

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will tell you, the only time I've drank mead,

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I wanted to like it so much, I did not enjoy

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myself. I've never had it. I've heard people

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have horrible experiences with it. I'd be willing

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to give it a shot. I mean, I think everyone should

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give it a shot because, I don't know, one of

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these days they're going to make one that I think

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is, I mean, they've got to make one that's good

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or that I think is good. If nothing else, I just

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want the bottle. Yeah, that's so cool. The bottle's

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amazing with the dragon head. Yeah, that'll be

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in the art for sure. Yeah, so as long as he makes

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it there, I will gladly send him as much money

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as I need to on Cash App. I can reimburse you.

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Yep, yep, yep. Oh, shoot, you said something

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that made me want to think about or talk about.

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Shoot, what was it? I don't know. Couldn't have

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been that good. I mean, it seems like it was

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around the Dungeons and Dragons moment, but...

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The D20? D20. The dice? The dice. I don't know.

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Garrett has a shirt that has the D20 dice, and

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it's landed on a one. Underneath, it just says,

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crap. Those of you that know, it's a funny shirt.

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Yeah, that's great. You roll a one, you're basically

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dead. Dead. Not good, folks. Not in that world.

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That's pretty great. Shout out to my oldest sister

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who I told about this show today. She didn't

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know that I was still doing a podcast and I was

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like, yeah, I mean, I got this podcast with a

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friend of mine. She's like, well, I said, I have

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a podcast. That we'll be recording tonight and

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then I'll come over and see y 'all because they're

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at my mom and dad's right now. And I was like,

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it's called, it's just a podcast where we talk

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about beer or drink beer and talk about gear.

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And she was like, oh, really? What's it called?

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And I was like, beer and gear. We're not that

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creative. perfect it's straight to the point

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right so my sister may be actually listening

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to this one whenever we drop it which would be

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great love you jen um sorry we're gonna uh you

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know talk about tech stuff but it did actually

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remind or not remind me it did make me think

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about what uh tech stuff we could talk about

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or what uh you know whatever um we could talk

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about that that that might not be quite as techie

00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:40.480
i wanted to um we really really really wanted

00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:44.620
to talk about the road video um s caster video

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s um but it has not made it to me yet there's

00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.620
probably some people that have it um because

00:16:52.620 --> 00:16:55.220
they pre -ordered i guess earlier than me um

00:16:55.220 --> 00:16:59.220
i actually and this is also my fault i i didn't

00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.519
order directly from road usually i order from

00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:06.819
uh sweetwater bnh and a lot of times like especially

00:17:06.819 --> 00:17:10.220
with new stuff they'll just drop ship um new

00:17:10.220 --> 00:17:13.099
stuff from you know they'll say this is how many

00:17:13.099 --> 00:17:14.819
orders we have this is where they're going and

00:17:14.819 --> 00:17:17.759
then yep road will actually send them out and

00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:20.440
maybe that'll happen but they're saying um when

00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.259
i contacted my sweetwater rep which those of

00:17:23.259 --> 00:17:25.319
you that have a sweetwater rep know it's like

00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:29.160
your best friend But when I talked to my Sweetwater

00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:32.819
rep, Brian Loney, he was like, it looks like

00:17:32.819 --> 00:17:35.420
we're not getting ours until January, which is

00:17:35.420 --> 00:17:39.779
very sad for me. But I did say Merry Christmas

00:17:39.779 --> 00:17:41.980
to them because they're amazing and it's not

00:17:41.980 --> 00:17:47.980
their fault. But really, really was hoping to

00:17:47.980 --> 00:17:50.960
talk about the RODECaster Video S because I really

00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:56.450
wanted to set that up. not use it for this show

00:17:56.450 --> 00:17:59.690
but be able to walk through some of the at least

00:17:59.690 --> 00:18:03.410
preset options for it yeah and key features and

00:18:03.410 --> 00:18:06.109
stuff like that because this thing looks amazing

00:18:06.109 --> 00:18:08.069
yeah it would have been nice to put my hands

00:18:08.069 --> 00:18:10.869
on it especially for somebody who has a roadcaster

00:18:10.869 --> 00:18:16.170
pro 2 yeah it seems like this is the missing

00:18:16.170 --> 00:18:20.250
piece for being able to do some pretty awesome

00:18:20.250 --> 00:18:24.509
video audio together Yep, it definitely feels

00:18:24.509 --> 00:18:27.809
like they want you to pair them together. So

00:18:27.809 --> 00:18:31.910
anyway, the RODECaster video has been out for

00:18:31.910 --> 00:18:35.130
a while, like a year. And it's great, but it's

00:18:35.130 --> 00:18:38.190
big and it's too much. And I don't have that

00:18:38.190 --> 00:18:40.990
many cameras to use for something like this.

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But like four cameras seems like we could do

00:18:44.890 --> 00:18:50.190
this. Or four, you know, different. Anyway. I'm

00:18:50.190 --> 00:18:52.069
excited about seeing that thing. But I thought

00:18:52.069 --> 00:18:55.710
about for today, one of the things that I actually

00:18:55.710 --> 00:18:58.309
think about for all of my sisters, my sisters

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are, they're all, all three of them are mothers

00:19:02.430 --> 00:19:07.970
now. Okay. And Jen, Jen's the one that I actually

00:19:07.970 --> 00:19:12.210
lived with the least. Okay. Because she was eight

00:19:12.210 --> 00:19:15.410
years older than me. So by the time I was 10,

00:19:15.490 --> 00:19:19.420
she was kind of out of the house. Okay. And a

00:19:19.420 --> 00:19:21.700
lot of high school, I would say. She was not

00:19:21.700 --> 00:19:25.759
around me because I was running around elementary

00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:28.200
school and she was running around high school.

00:19:28.380 --> 00:19:34.079
But anyway, all three of my sisters, though,

00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:39.660
have families. And Jennifer and Joy have four

00:19:39.660 --> 00:19:45.180
and five children. Wow. JC has two. I have three.

00:19:45.339 --> 00:19:48.819
Wow. We kind of learned our lesson from watching

00:19:48.819 --> 00:19:52.039
the people with all of the kids. Don't do that.

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But they're crazy busy, and they're constantly

00:19:57.299 --> 00:19:59.119
having to juggle all these different things.

00:19:59.180 --> 00:20:04.059
So it made me start to think about the way we've

00:20:04.059 --> 00:20:07.720
talked about it before is meta work, the work

00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:12.339
around the work. My meta work, I don't mean Facebook

00:20:12.339 --> 00:20:20.250
work. Or Metaglasses work or Instagram work.

00:20:20.470 --> 00:20:22.490
Yes. Although one of these days I would like

00:20:22.490 --> 00:20:28.130
to do some VR talk at some point or VRAR talk.

00:20:28.190 --> 00:20:30.269
I think we talked a little bit about it, but

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it would be great to go further into that side

00:20:33.410 --> 00:20:38.049
of things. But I'm talking about the work that

00:20:38.049 --> 00:20:45.299
organizes your work or the work that... Isn't

00:20:45.299 --> 00:20:48.420
just getting the thing done. It's kind of making

00:20:48.420 --> 00:20:51.059
sure that the thing happens and then making sure

00:20:51.059 --> 00:20:55.859
that the other stuff is being followed up after

00:20:55.859 --> 00:21:00.400
the work is done. Okay. It's funny because this

00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:02.279
was actually, I didn't know it at the time and

00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:03.819
I definitely didn't have a word for it. But when

00:21:03.819 --> 00:21:05.859
I first started working at Pine Cove, this was

00:21:05.859 --> 00:21:10.559
my job. My job was not to get things done. It

00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:15.460
was to. do the work surrounding getting things

00:21:15.460 --> 00:21:18.680
done. So on the front end, whenever things are

00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:21.259
coming up and then on the back end, whenever

00:21:21.259 --> 00:21:24.460
things have happened and then anything during

00:21:24.460 --> 00:21:30.440
that needed to be go for it, you know, I was

00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:34.319
22 years old and I didn't know anything. So had

00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:38.279
to pay a lot of dues there of not knowing anything.

00:21:39.039 --> 00:21:43.690
And it meant there was a lot of running around

00:21:43.690 --> 00:21:48.829
and a lot of I think what what I have thought

00:21:48.829 --> 00:21:53.670
of now for a while as busy work but there needs

00:21:53.670 --> 00:21:56.130
I need to I need to return to it a little bit

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because I'm realizing that I'm just not doing

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a good job of this and this applies sorry all

00:22:01.589 --> 00:22:04.730
of that to say this applies then to my sisters

00:22:04.730 --> 00:22:09.210
and the families that they have and the jobs

00:22:09.210 --> 00:22:10.869
that they've done and everything because a lot

00:22:10.869 --> 00:22:16.190
of I am so aware in watching their lives of how

00:22:16.190 --> 00:22:20.809
much they're trying to keep track of. And I would

00:22:20.809 --> 00:22:23.509
love to get from them. Jennifer, if you're listening.

00:22:24.950 --> 00:22:28.490
Joy, Jason, if you're listening. Yeah, we're

00:22:28.490 --> 00:22:30.490
all J names. Sorry about that. That's okay. My

00:22:30.490 --> 00:22:33.589
parents are weird. John, Jane, Jennifer, Joy,

00:22:33.609 --> 00:22:34.710
Jason. They found something they like and stuck

00:22:34.710 --> 00:22:44.690
with it. Johnny. Weird. Anyway. how did you keep

00:22:44.690 --> 00:22:47.329
track of all the things that you had? Cause it's

00:22:47.329 --> 00:22:50.410
not like, to me there's like, there's a, there's

00:22:50.410 --> 00:22:52.750
I think a level of intelligence that I appreciate

00:22:52.750 --> 00:22:55.869
in people that allows them to keep a lot of things

00:22:55.869 --> 00:23:00.029
in their head. But I don't have the level of

00:23:00.029 --> 00:23:02.369
intelligence that allows me to keep a lot of

00:23:02.369 --> 00:23:06.869
things in separate, like categories all in my

00:23:06.869 --> 00:23:09.599
head. I can keep a lot of things in my head in

00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:12.460
one category. But when you're a parent, you kind

00:23:12.460 --> 00:23:17.200
of have to keep things in a category for each

00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:20.359
child and then a category for your spouse and

00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:23.039
then a category for work and then a category

00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:27.079
for the house. There's a lot of things that you

00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:30.279
have to kind of whatever. And one of the cool

00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:32.599
things about your brain is that the more of those

00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:36.519
categories that can overlap in terms of... a

00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:39.920
something in one of those categories can overlap

00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:42.839
into the others. That's helpful. Yes. Helps you

00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:46.180
remember it. But there's a lot of things that

00:23:46.180 --> 00:23:50.039
don't. And so, I mean, the easy side of this

00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:55.460
is like to do list. What to do list apps are

00:23:55.460 --> 00:24:05.720
you using? I am still a. paper and pencil person

00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:07.839
for at least well at least let me get my back

00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:12.619
for work for work so i've got lots of paper notepads

00:24:12.619 --> 00:24:14.980
with stuff and it's just kind of like what i've

00:24:14.980 --> 00:24:18.079
wanted to do but you have a lot like you have

00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:21.240
separate ones uh you're just writing it down

00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:24.500
no no no no i i go until that one is full okay

00:24:24.500 --> 00:24:26.380
and then i start a new one but you have them

00:24:26.380 --> 00:24:28.809
all in one place Yeah. Great. We're going to

00:24:28.809 --> 00:24:30.650
talk about this. It's messy, but yeah, I have

00:24:30.650 --> 00:24:32.970
them all together. What I've been wanting to

00:24:32.970 --> 00:24:36.349
do, and I just haven't found one that I've been

00:24:36.349 --> 00:24:38.769
willing to spend the money on, but I actually

00:24:38.769 --> 00:24:45.569
want to get one of the e -ink. Like Remarkable?

00:24:45.910 --> 00:24:50.529
Yeah. They're really good because that's all

00:24:50.529 --> 00:24:54.349
they focus on. Yeah. But I want one that actually

00:24:54.349 --> 00:24:56.430
can do more. So I actually have been looking

00:24:56.430 --> 00:25:00.619
at, The ones that run Android. So you can actually

00:25:00.619 --> 00:25:05.619
put real apps on. Did you look at Daylight? Daylight.

00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:09.200
I have not seen Daylight. Okay, so this is great

00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:12.940
because I think it's called Daylight. I'm going

00:25:12.940 --> 00:25:19.900
to make sure that we're all in the... Yeah, Daylight

00:25:19.900 --> 00:25:24.730
Computer. Okay. daylight a more caring computer

00:25:24.730 --> 00:25:27.710
this is a so i i've looked at a bunch of these

00:25:27.710 --> 00:25:29.390
so like while you're looking that up because

00:25:29.390 --> 00:25:31.190
i want you to look at daylight while i'm talking

00:25:31.190 --> 00:25:35.829
okay um uh i'm i'm right there with you like

00:25:35.829 --> 00:25:39.009
i writing things down is actually really important

00:25:39.009 --> 00:25:42.170
i think for our brains um sure and i think that

00:25:42.170 --> 00:25:45.849
you know typing things out same type of concept

00:25:45.849 --> 00:25:51.599
but there's a lot of um Because it is like you're,

00:25:51.940 --> 00:25:54.319
even though you may be looking at your computer,

00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:56.140
you're looking at a lot of different screens.

00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:00.519
Your brain doesn't trust that the screen that

00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:04.059
you just let go of is still there. Are these

00:26:04.059 --> 00:26:07.700
former Apple people? Daylight? Yeah. I don't

00:26:07.700 --> 00:26:10.440
know. Their web design screams Apple all the

00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:12.420
way. It really does. You keep sliding and the

00:26:12.420 --> 00:26:16.539
page just kind of evolves. Scroll, scroll. This

00:26:16.539 --> 00:26:19.490
is a thing now. I don't like it. Well, I'm just

00:26:19.490 --> 00:26:23.849
saying you don't have to be an Apple person to

00:26:23.849 --> 00:26:27.630
think that because of Apple's market share, you

00:26:27.630 --> 00:26:30.130
need to copy them. Sure. Maybe that's what's

00:26:30.130 --> 00:26:33.309
happening. Cause I know the remarkable guy, he

00:26:33.309 --> 00:26:36.630
was Apple. Yeah. And I will tell you the reason

00:26:36.630 --> 00:26:38.630
that I'm not going with remarkable. We'll just

00:26:38.630 --> 00:26:40.829
skip to that part. The reason I'm not going with

00:26:40.829 --> 00:26:42.990
remarkable is because of the freaking subscription.

00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:45.759
Well, you can use it without a subscription,

00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:49.900
but you are limited in some of the features.

00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:52.680
I mean, really limited. Yeah. Like it holding

00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.940
on to things is, I mean, this is the whole purpose

00:26:55.940 --> 00:26:58.319
of having it. Yeah. Now, if I remember correctly,

00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:00.420
without the subscription, you can still sync

00:27:00.420 --> 00:27:03.859
it up to Google Drive. I didn't think that was.

00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:07.720
I think you can on the free. Okay. I'd have to

00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:09.660
go back and double check. It was definitely one

00:27:09.660 --> 00:27:11.980
of those things that I was like, I don't appreciate

00:27:11.980 --> 00:27:16.859
that I've just bought this, in my mind, overpriced

00:27:16.859 --> 00:27:19.400
tablet. Yeah, it looks like this one is in that

00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:21.779
same price range at $729. Yeah, but it's not

00:27:21.779 --> 00:27:29.779
the same limited scope. Yeah, I think the only

00:27:29.779 --> 00:27:34.859
thing that I would want different is I want color.

00:27:35.579 --> 00:27:38.180
yeah okay this does not no it's not and it's

00:27:38.180 --> 00:27:40.200
and it's not a bad thing you got a keyboard set

00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.319
up for it in the whole night fancy yeah i really

00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:46.339
like the color e -ink yeah and i'm okay with

00:27:46.339 --> 00:27:48.640
the fact that there's a little it's getting way

00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:50.740
better but i'm okay with the fact that there

00:27:50.740 --> 00:27:53.519
is a little screen transition as you jump between

00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.410
things that doesn't bother me one bit yeah It

00:27:56.410 --> 00:27:58.750
does look like this E Ink, the Daylight E Ink

00:27:58.750 --> 00:28:02.950
is making some strides towards that smooth transition,

00:28:03.190 --> 00:28:06.849
which I really appreciate. But I agree with you.

00:28:09.230 --> 00:28:12.769
You're giving up things on the screen. Yes. I

00:28:12.769 --> 00:28:17.430
don't need color. I actually want it to not have

00:28:17.430 --> 00:28:19.869
color, whichever one I choose to not have color,

00:28:19.950 --> 00:28:25.109
simply because I want it to make me. not as excited

00:28:25.109 --> 00:28:28.049
about getting on it. Not, not, not, not excited.

00:28:28.230 --> 00:28:31.769
I don't, I don't want to crave getting on it.

00:28:31.829 --> 00:28:34.529
Well, that's why I think the color ones are still

00:28:34.529 --> 00:28:38.210
okay because they're not vibrant. Yeah. They're

00:28:38.210 --> 00:28:42.490
very muted colors. It's not like a computer or

00:28:42.490 --> 00:28:46.029
a phone. Yeah. Uh, it's, it's more like a, like

00:28:46.029 --> 00:28:50.589
a faded watercolor. So I, I feel like that would

00:28:50.589 --> 00:28:53.390
keep me from being like, Got to keep my face

00:28:53.390 --> 00:28:55.849
buried in this thing. And it would be a little

00:28:55.849 --> 00:28:59.230
bit of like, and the fact that you do have some

00:28:59.230 --> 00:29:02.990
of that delay in the transitions. Yeah. Again,

00:29:03.089 --> 00:29:04.970
it's just kind of like, I'm here to do what I

00:29:04.970 --> 00:29:08.079
need to do and I'm going to get out. Yeah. But

00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:10.380
the idea behind some of this, at least in my

00:29:10.380 --> 00:29:12.720
mind, and I like that you're writing things down.

00:29:12.779 --> 00:29:14.359
I've been trying to write things down. I'm actually

00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:16.819
really bad at it. I have a notebook just to write

00:29:16.819 --> 00:29:19.299
things down, and I've been told by smarter people

00:29:19.299 --> 00:29:21.740
than me that when you're writing things down,

00:29:21.779 --> 00:29:24.740
you have the place that you put all of your information.

00:29:25.420 --> 00:29:29.339
The writing it down and leaving it there is actually

00:29:29.339 --> 00:29:32.720
really... to your brain, especially if you're

00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:35.460
an anxious person or you worry a lot or something

00:29:35.460 --> 00:29:37.400
like that because it's actually your brain trying

00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.960
to keep track of something it doesn't trust you

00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.299
will remember. And as somebody who has ADHD,

00:29:43.779 --> 00:29:47.380
there's a lot of things that I don't trust that

00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:52.000
I will remember. And trying to train yourself

00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.660
to trust your computer when you've had a computer

00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:59.789
not have any charge. or whatever, then you have

00:29:59.789 --> 00:30:01.410
your phone on you and you have your computer

00:30:01.410 --> 00:30:04.890
and you have a tablet just in case. Um, and so

00:30:04.890 --> 00:30:07.210
the idea of having just, I mean, if you just

00:30:07.210 --> 00:30:09.170
go back to straight, like we're going to write

00:30:09.170 --> 00:30:12.230
this down, that's actually really helpful. It

00:30:12.230 --> 00:30:15.910
is. So I'm, I, I'm a fan. I, I have one that

00:30:15.910 --> 00:30:19.029
I carry around in my backpack. I might have to

00:30:19.029 --> 00:30:21.289
not do it that way, even though that's the way

00:30:21.289 --> 00:30:25.390
that the people that I know that, um, are smarter

00:30:25.390 --> 00:30:28.460
than me do it because it's a big. place to write

00:30:28.460 --> 00:30:31.059
down stuff i i feel like i need to start doing

00:30:31.059 --> 00:30:35.160
it in smaller ones because i very rarely actually

00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:39.259
take my backpack with me everywhere i go i carry

00:30:39.259 --> 00:30:43.759
it to work and then i carry it home and i don't

00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:46.500
always take it in from listen if you live in

00:30:46.500 --> 00:30:48.440
my neighborhood and you come steal my backpack

00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.519
out of my car i'm gonna be really upset but i

00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:56.759
don't always take it into my house correct Security.

00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:01.200
Yeah. You're bringing up a good point. If I had

00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.000
it in my backpack, you would either be at home

00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.000
or at work. It wouldn't be with me on the road.

00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:07.920
Yeah. And it's like, you know, you're sitting

00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:09.559
at lunch and somebody says something and you're

00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.140
like, I need to remember that. I need to write

00:31:12.140 --> 00:31:16.059
it down right now. There is a possible option.

00:31:16.140 --> 00:31:19.920
I haven't dug into it enough. But the company

00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.500
Books, B -O -O -X. I don't know if you're familiar

00:31:22.500 --> 00:31:25.559
with them. Nope. They make one called the Palma.

00:31:26.180 --> 00:31:29.539
It is basically the form factor of a phone. Okay.

00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:37.460
So if I could, did they actually make it a phone

00:31:37.460 --> 00:31:43.099
or does it stay? Note Air 5C. That's their like

00:31:43.099 --> 00:31:45.079
flagship, it looks like, or at least their latest.

00:31:46.220 --> 00:31:49.420
I need to just go to. Yeah, it looks like it's

00:31:49.420 --> 00:31:56.079
still. It doesn't function as a phone. Which

00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:58.519
is great. I don't really want a phone. Well,

00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:02.480
I actually would want it as a phone. Okay. Because

00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:05.900
again, now this is not color. Yeah. The Palma

00:32:05.900 --> 00:32:10.839
is just basically black and white. But I'm looking

00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.039
for ways to drive myself away from a smartphone

00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.420
and still be able to get my work done. Yeah.

00:32:17.420 --> 00:32:21.230
So all I want is a... Actually, that sure looks

00:32:21.230 --> 00:32:23.450
like they've... Have you seen the Wyze phone?

00:32:23.910 --> 00:32:27.130
W -Y -S -E? Crazy expensive. Is it? If it's the

00:32:27.130 --> 00:32:29.950
one that I'm thinking of. Okay. There's a bunch

00:32:29.950 --> 00:32:33.349
of different options here. Yes. Palma 2 Pro.

00:32:34.309 --> 00:32:41.430
Yeah. 6 .13 color mobile e -paper. Yeah. I was

00:32:41.430 --> 00:32:43.390
trying to see... Are you looking at this? 8 gigs

00:32:43.390 --> 00:32:49.619
of RAM, 120 gigs of... Oh, it says ROM. Yeah,

00:32:49.619 --> 00:32:53.019
it does. What I was trying to figure out, and

00:32:53.019 --> 00:32:56.500
I don't see it calling it out directly, because

00:32:56.500 --> 00:32:59.839
if it could truly be a phone, then it would be

00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:02.339
like, it's amazing. It definitely has an earpiece,

00:33:02.500 --> 00:33:04.759
Chris. Yeah, it has microphone, speaker, the

00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:06.440
whole nine. Yeah, but if you're not doing it

00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.319
as a phone, you don't need an earpiece like that.

00:33:08.539 --> 00:33:11.059
No. That's very much pointed at somebody's ear.

00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:16.779
Yeah. Oh, SIM card, micro SD. Where'd you see

00:33:16.779 --> 00:33:21.009
SIM card? I saw the micro SD. SIM 1 micro SD.

00:33:21.829 --> 00:33:24.230
Okay, so again, if I could turn this into a phone.

00:33:24.369 --> 00:33:27.289
Hybrid SIM slot. Okay, if I could turn it into

00:33:27.289 --> 00:33:31.369
a phone and you give me hotspot, then I'm feeling

00:33:31.369 --> 00:33:34.170
pretty good because I'm going to be less likely

00:33:34.170 --> 00:33:38.150
to grab my phone just because you don't get a

00:33:38.150 --> 00:33:41.109
lot of that normal feedback that your phone is

00:33:41.109 --> 00:33:43.130
designed to do to keep you staring at it like

00:33:43.130 --> 00:33:46.130
you're brainless. Yeah. I like that, I mean,

00:33:46.150 --> 00:33:48.410
this is weird, I get it, but I like that it still

00:33:48.410 --> 00:33:55.829
uses a stylus. Yes. I know, like, there's a lot

00:33:55.829 --> 00:33:59.250
of talk about stuff like that, but I, you know,

00:33:59.289 --> 00:34:02.450
there's something about it. Yeah, I had been

00:34:02.450 --> 00:34:05.230
looking at the... Ooh, it's got a 16 megapixel

00:34:05.230 --> 00:34:07.609
rear camera. It's not 24, but 16's still better

00:34:07.609 --> 00:34:09.769
than 12. I don't use the camera, so... Well,

00:34:09.789 --> 00:34:12.329
I do. So what I've been looking at with them

00:34:12.329 --> 00:34:17.170
is the book's note. air 5c um it's still expensive

00:34:17.170 --> 00:34:22.070
it's 529 i mean it's not cheap yeah but the palma

00:34:22.070 --> 00:34:28.010
2 pro is 379 yes yep yep yep so but yeah that

00:34:28.010 --> 00:34:29.969
the mobile you were saying the air it's going

00:34:29.969 --> 00:34:32.929
to say the you i'm going back to your point you

00:34:32.929 --> 00:34:35.789
know what would it take for me to make sure i

00:34:35.789 --> 00:34:39.070
have this thing with me everywhere and i almost

00:34:39.070 --> 00:34:45.940
feel like i'd have to Just look like, well, I

00:34:45.940 --> 00:34:48.119
don't know how else to say it. I would look like

00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:53.019
a stooge because I'd be carrying some kind of

00:34:53.019 --> 00:34:58.179
crossbody bag of holding type thing in order

00:34:58.179 --> 00:35:00.000
to ensure that I have this with me everywhere

00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:05.500
I go. Yeah, the crossbody is hard to not call

00:35:05.500 --> 00:35:09.719
a purse. Yeah, yeah. For some of us. Does Lake

00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.860
still use one? A purse? Well, the crossbody bag

00:35:13.860 --> 00:35:17.280
thing. Yeah, his is a little bit different because

00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.059
it's like a messenger bag, just vertical. Okay.

00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:24.159
And it's leather, and that doesn't really help.

00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:29.659
But, like, I don't know. It is a vertical messenger

00:35:29.659 --> 00:35:31.780
bag. I don't know what they called those. Okay.

00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:33.840
They had, like, a different name for them there

00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:38.630
for a while. Yep. Yeah, I'd have to figure out

00:35:38.630 --> 00:35:40.130
how to keep it with me. That'd be the thing.

00:35:40.230 --> 00:35:43.389
Two in one case. I guess you were asking about

00:35:43.389 --> 00:35:47.849
apps. Oh, what's this? Oh, courts at the game.

00:35:48.670 --> 00:35:52.349
He's at the game? In Detroit. Really? Stars and

00:35:52.349 --> 00:35:57.010
Red Wings. He's wearing his jersey? Well, he

00:35:57.010 --> 00:35:59.510
just sent me a picture of the ice. Nice. That's

00:35:59.510 --> 00:36:03.630
going to be fun for all you hockey lovers out

00:36:03.630 --> 00:36:05.900
there. I don't have a dog in the hunt on that

00:36:05.900 --> 00:36:09.739
game. Of course not. We live in Texas. Well,

00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:11.119
that means that him and Jacob are going to be

00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.619
going back and forth all night. Because Jacob

00:36:13.619 --> 00:36:22.260
is the Stars fan. I mean, sure. What's IncSense

00:36:22.260 --> 00:36:32.480
Plus Bundle? Hmm. Anyway, there's a lot of things

00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:36.460
that it's worth. looking into how this could

00:36:36.460 --> 00:36:39.920
change your way of doing things and keeping up

00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.559
with it. But like to -do lists, I've tried so

00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:46.139
many of these. One right now, I'm just using

00:36:46.139 --> 00:36:51.079
the, because we've got Google stuff where we

00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:55.059
work. I'm just using Google stuff, which is fine.

00:36:55.179 --> 00:36:59.969
Like there's not, it's not amazing, but. I've

00:36:59.969 --> 00:37:02.889
used Asana. I think Asana is fantastic. If you

00:37:02.889 --> 00:37:06.269
can get your team to use it, it's really nice

00:37:06.269 --> 00:37:10.409
for that kind of integration. Yeah. But I've

00:37:10.409 --> 00:37:12.849
also never been on a team that really uses it.

00:37:12.909 --> 00:37:15.389
This is why I've never actually used Slack. Okay.

00:37:16.510 --> 00:37:21.349
We're kind of the lone wolf people with a lot

00:37:21.349 --> 00:37:24.579
of this. You said Slack. I did. I said it. I

00:37:24.579 --> 00:37:26.920
hate Slack. I mean, yeah. It's like drinking

00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:29.579
from a fire hose. It's a lot of that, yeah. And

00:37:29.579 --> 00:37:31.000
then when you've got to go back and find it,

00:37:31.059 --> 00:37:33.559
the search doesn't work well for me. I don't

00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:36.940
know if it's just because of maybe yours and

00:37:36.940 --> 00:37:42.780
my personality. If you're really into social

00:37:42.780 --> 00:37:48.219
media, I bet you love Slack. I go a different

00:37:48.219 --> 00:37:51.099
route. I think Slack is really designed for people

00:37:51.099 --> 00:37:55.360
who are ADHD. I think I would like it. I think

00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.139
it flows well for people who are ADHD because

00:37:58.139 --> 00:37:59.880
it's just like bing, bong, bing, bong, bing,

00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:01.960
bong, bong. It's all over the place. Maybe that's

00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.320
it because I can't trust it because of that.

00:38:05.579 --> 00:38:08.099
Well, eventually I can find what I'm looking

00:38:08.099 --> 00:38:10.500
for, but my biggest challenge with Slack is,

00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.820
well, I know this person sent it, but I don't

00:38:13.820 --> 00:38:16.579
see it in the direct messages. So that means

00:38:16.579 --> 00:38:19.360
it came in a channel. Now I've got to go try

00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.710
to find it. And eventually I can find out. Maybe

00:38:22.710 --> 00:38:24.250
I just don't know how to use their search well.

00:38:24.570 --> 00:38:27.269
But it is a nightmare. And sometimes I've had

00:38:27.269 --> 00:38:30.150
to go, I know you sent this to me. I just don't

00:38:30.150 --> 00:38:32.190
have it. I can't find it. Can you tell me where

00:38:32.190 --> 00:38:36.329
you sent this at? And then I can go back. If

00:38:36.329 --> 00:38:38.230
they remember, because if they're ADHD, they

00:38:38.230 --> 00:38:39.869
probably don't. That's true. They may not remember

00:38:39.869 --> 00:38:41.489
either. They're going to have to resend it to

00:38:41.489 --> 00:38:43.690
you in a personal message. Yeah, I'm just not

00:38:43.690 --> 00:38:46.469
a fan of Slack. Well, there you go. I know folks

00:38:46.469 --> 00:38:50.210
at Pine Cove love it. So. Yeah, I think they're.

00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.679
uh, too extroverted. I just like, I can't, I

00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:56.579
can't be interrupted that much. And that's the,

00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:58.679
like, that's the hard part about it to me is

00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:03.280
that because, because I'm, I have a hard time

00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:07.119
like remembering what I was working on, that

00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.519
when I get pushed in a different direction, it

00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:13.659
will be a while before I get back to what I was

00:39:13.659 --> 00:39:15.960
doing. And even then, like I've sat down before

00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:20.389
and been like, I was here today, right? Like

00:39:20.389 --> 00:39:27.150
I, I don't remember anything. It's a very strange

00:39:27.150 --> 00:39:29.809
feeling because if you're just like constantly

00:39:29.809 --> 00:39:33.110
in like the groove of being pushed wherever somebody

00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:36.610
is sending you in the moment, like it, it's not,

00:39:36.710 --> 00:39:41.010
I mean, maybe I was helpful to them, but it feels

00:39:41.010 --> 00:39:44.949
a lot like not like you arrived at home and you're

00:39:44.949 --> 00:39:48.840
like, how did I get here? Have you ever done

00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:52.380
that long drive? Not at the end of the day, but

00:39:52.380 --> 00:39:54.980
I've had my fair share of getting to work and

00:39:54.980 --> 00:39:59.099
going, I don't remember part of the drive. Yeah.

00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:04.019
For sure. I've had that. And then I've had the

00:40:04.019 --> 00:40:06.099
senior moments where you walk into a room and

00:40:06.099 --> 00:40:11.000
you go, what was I here for again? Oh, man. All

00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:12.099
the time. Those are the words. All the time.

00:40:12.099 --> 00:40:15.760
It's like, oh, early onset Alzheimer's. No. That's

00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:19.539
for sure. It's just like it's going to happen.

00:40:19.780 --> 00:40:24.280
I do it all the time. Yeah, the not remembering

00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.320
the drive, that scares me sometimes. Yeah, because

00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:29.760
I'm like, were my eyes open? Yeah, I'm like,

00:40:29.780 --> 00:40:34.260
was I just like so out of it, but yet on autopilot?

00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:36.739
Because I've driven this so many times. How many

00:40:36.739 --> 00:40:39.480
people did I run over? Well, I'm sitting there

00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:41.460
going, you know, how likely would I have been

00:40:41.460 --> 00:40:45.000
able to get in a wreck because I'm not fully

00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.820
cranking on all cylinders yet. It's a weird feeling

00:40:49.820 --> 00:40:56.940
for sure. Yeah, it is. Anyway. So, yeah, anybody

00:40:56.940 --> 00:40:58.460
out there that would love to send some gear,

00:40:58.659 --> 00:41:02.320
we'd love to try it. Always. Give some feedback.

00:41:02.940 --> 00:41:06.739
If you want to send us a Pama 2 Pro or 2. An

00:41:06.739 --> 00:41:10.239
Air 5C. I mean, yeah. Even if we have to send

00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:12.360
it back, that's fine. Palma 2 Pro and you can

00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:17.900
take the Air 5C. It is interesting to me that

00:41:17.900 --> 00:41:26.400
there's this thing out there that may... I have

00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:29.739
the hardest time embracing the fact that I might

00:41:29.739 --> 00:41:33.639
one day not have blue bubbles for messages. Oh,

00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:36.900
you'll survive. Because, see, that's what I even

00:41:36.900 --> 00:41:39.480
like. You can put the widgets on. It's the peer

00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:43.719
pressure. Chris, it's real. Why do you care what

00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:47.360
other people think? Dude, let it go. I'm a pastor's

00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:51.099
kid. But it's the most freeing thing to go, I

00:41:51.099 --> 00:41:54.179
appreciate your input, and I'm probably going

00:41:54.179 --> 00:41:58.829
to just let it drop. Thank you, though. If I

00:41:58.829 --> 00:42:01.650
worried about what everybody said, I would be

00:42:01.650 --> 00:42:04.690
just like my mom. And no, I couldn't live that

00:42:04.690 --> 00:42:09.389
life. Sorry, Mom. You see, you've got your to

00:42:09.389 --> 00:42:13.489
-do list and you've got your calendar. And then

00:42:13.489 --> 00:42:16.090
I wouldn't necessarily try to fill the screen

00:42:16.090 --> 00:42:19.929
up, but because it runs Android, it's so much

00:42:19.929 --> 00:42:23.610
more than just notes. So I kind of want this.

00:42:24.070 --> 00:42:27.380
And if I could find the right one of this, This

00:42:27.380 --> 00:42:29.599
would literally turn into the dumbest of phones

00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.719
that I can find as long as it had a dependable

00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:37.360
hotspot. And there wouldn't be any more smartphone

00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:41.199
in my pocket. But what if you had the Palma as

00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:46.539
your smartphone? I could probably get by with

00:42:46.539 --> 00:42:51.659
that. Because again, it's not color. It runs

00:42:51.659 --> 00:42:54.760
Android, so you could technically have some of

00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:59.269
the things there. So, yeah, I just want to get

00:42:59.269 --> 00:43:02.650
rid of the technology. I know that's crazy for

00:43:02.650 --> 00:43:06.530
a tech guy to go, I want to simplify the technology

00:43:06.530 --> 00:43:08.849
and rip it out of my life. No, I think that's

00:43:08.849 --> 00:43:12.429
who I hear it from more than anybody else. And

00:43:12.429 --> 00:43:15.010
it's because when you, well, I don't know, I

00:43:15.010 --> 00:43:17.550
can't say it's because. Like, that's not, I don't

00:43:17.550 --> 00:43:20.010
think it's a simple answer. One of the reasons.

00:43:20.650 --> 00:43:22.710
is because when you're working with it all the

00:43:22.710 --> 00:43:31.650
time, like there's a level of like, I feel the

00:43:31.650 --> 00:43:37.750
consumption of it more than everybody else does.

00:43:37.909 --> 00:43:42.570
And, you know, I don't have an interaction with.

00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.000
anymore that I don't feel like some sort of problem

00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.699
solver. True. And when you're trying to turn

00:43:50.699 --> 00:43:53.239
your brain off, that's a really bad feeling.

00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:55.719
Yep. Well, one of the things that I've really

00:43:55.719 --> 00:44:00.639
struggled with internally of late, probably the

00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:05.820
last six months, maybe a year, is just kind of

00:44:05.820 --> 00:44:09.300
looking at technology in general and what I have

00:44:09.300 --> 00:44:14.260
in my life and just kind of going, Am I like

00:44:14.260 --> 00:44:21.320
of the world in this and going, have I taken

00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.400
it too far? I mean, I'd like to think that I'm

00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:26.400
not a slave to the technology. Yeah. I know I

00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.159
had technically have to have the phone for my

00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:31.239
work. Right. But could you find ways to pull

00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:34.539
back? You know, I just, I just want to find ways

00:44:34.539 --> 00:44:36.860
to strip technology increasingly more out of

00:44:36.860 --> 00:44:41.559
my personal life. And not feel like I'm just

00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:45.219
like everybody else in the world and have all

00:44:45.219 --> 00:44:47.880
this technology and all this gear. And some of

00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:51.159
it's fun. I enjoy it. And I realize to some degree

00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.980
it comes down to what are you doing with it?

00:44:54.179 --> 00:44:57.820
Yeah. Because the technology inherently, there's

00:44:57.820 --> 00:45:02.000
nothing wrong with it necessarily. No, it's amoral.

00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:06.380
Yeah. Is it becoming a idol? In some ways, you

00:45:06.380 --> 00:45:10.119
know, is there a level of, oh yeah, I've got

00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:11.920
the Rodecaster and I've got this mic and I've

00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:13.420
got this computer and I've got, and I've got,

00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:16.940
and I've got, and it's just kind of like, maybe

00:45:16.940 --> 00:45:20.559
you should take a pause and figure, figure that

00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.860
out. But on the flip side, and this, this is

00:45:23.860 --> 00:45:27.840
tech technology, but not this, like I'm wanting

00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:32.969
to increasingly get more tools to do more. working

00:45:32.969 --> 00:45:34.849
with wood. I'm not going to call myself a woodworker.

00:45:35.849 --> 00:45:39.710
But I want to get more tools because I want to

00:45:39.710 --> 00:45:43.769
do more of that. But to me, that's a way to disconnect

00:45:43.769 --> 00:45:48.789
from this always -on connected world and go,

00:45:48.969 --> 00:45:51.489
no, no, no, I'm shutting that out. Yeah, I'm

00:45:51.489 --> 00:45:53.409
going to be listening to music because I'm going

00:45:53.409 --> 00:45:55.489
to have my earbuds in and then put my ear protection

00:45:55.489 --> 00:45:59.349
on. But it's me working with my hands. It feels

00:45:59.349 --> 00:46:02.349
like you're kind of getting back. to the way

00:46:02.349 --> 00:46:07.010
things used to be before technology. And you're,

00:46:07.010 --> 00:46:09.449
and you're kind of, you're slowing down, you're

00:46:09.449 --> 00:46:12.469
simplifying and you're just trying to stay focused

00:46:12.469 --> 00:46:14.889
on the work that you're doing. And, you know,

00:46:14.909 --> 00:46:16.369
it's going to take time to get the project done.

00:46:16.489 --> 00:46:20.530
No big deal. Yeah. Um, you know, and I will go

00:46:20.530 --> 00:46:23.730
to my grave saying that the internet was the

00:46:23.730 --> 00:46:26.949
worst invention in the history of mankind. I

00:46:26.949 --> 00:46:31.460
mean, the worst. It really does seem like everybody

00:46:31.460 --> 00:46:34.039
talks about, well, there's a good side and a

00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:36.219
bad side. It's like, yeah, but the bad side outweighs

00:46:36.219 --> 00:46:40.000
the good side by a large margin. Like a large,

00:46:40.099 --> 00:46:44.559
large margin. It's hard to find good sides on

00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:46.760
the internet anymore. Yeah. Because, I mean,

00:46:46.780 --> 00:46:49.800
I can't say it's social media. No. For some people

00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.400
it may be. No. But for me, well, I mean, there's

00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.340
people who are like, this is how I keep up with

00:46:54.340 --> 00:46:56.079
family because they're so far away. I understand,

00:46:56.260 --> 00:46:58.340
but I haven't seen a single person that's using

00:46:58.340 --> 00:47:02.530
it. only for that and even if you're only using

00:47:02.530 --> 00:47:04.630
it for that you can't tell me that there's not

00:47:04.630 --> 00:47:07.769
some um comparison that's happening there because

00:47:07.769 --> 00:47:11.429
everybody is always only putting their best stuff

00:47:11.429 --> 00:47:15.429
on social media and the idea that that's everybody's

00:47:15.429 --> 00:47:21.210
full life is oh my god it's bunk put it lightly

00:47:21.210 --> 00:47:24.809
so but yeah i mean it's really hard for me to

00:47:24.809 --> 00:47:27.929
find Things of the internet that are positive.

00:47:29.570 --> 00:47:32.429
You know, it was supposed to be this magical

00:47:32.429 --> 00:47:34.130
thing. We were going to have all this information

00:47:34.130 --> 00:47:36.230
at our fingertips. We were going to be able to

00:47:36.230 --> 00:47:39.690
learn more, be more intelligent, more capable.

00:47:40.590 --> 00:47:44.710
And they sold us the bill of goods. And somewhere

00:47:44.710 --> 00:47:47.610
along the way, it was a bait and switch. And

00:47:47.610 --> 00:47:52.050
it's just turned into absolute trash. And I'm

00:47:52.050 --> 00:47:55.360
sure like many other things, like... DVD and

00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:59.219
VHS and other medias, the only thing keeping,

00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:03.780
sadly, the internet going is all the porn. I

00:48:03.780 --> 00:48:06.860
mean, if you strip that from the internet, there's

00:48:06.860 --> 00:48:11.480
so little left. And then there's nothing to keep

00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:13.380
the money flowing that keeps all this stuff happening.

00:48:14.980 --> 00:48:17.639
So, I mean, yeah, to me, the internet is just,

00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:21.579
I'll go to my grave. As of right now, It is the

00:48:21.579 --> 00:48:26.880
worst invention in the history of mankind. So

00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:30.460
much bad. It does seem like it's really tough

00:48:30.460 --> 00:48:38.500
to live with it or live without it when everybody

00:48:38.500 --> 00:48:41.360
else lives with it. Yeah. And that's part of

00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:42.800
like one of the things I was thinking about while

00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:44.719
you were talking about being able to separate

00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:48.059
home life and everything is like the idea that

00:48:48.059 --> 00:48:52.019
I could leave my phone at work when I went home

00:48:52.019 --> 00:48:58.880
sounds really freeing. Oh, yeah. But I don't

00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:01.360
know how many days I would get through before

00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:04.960
somebody was frustrated with me for not being

00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:11.800
reachable at my home. Yeah. Yeah. Or by text.

00:49:11.900 --> 00:49:13.940
The only way that I've ever been able to achieve

00:49:13.940 --> 00:49:18.599
that is I've had to take a cruise and be like,

00:49:18.659 --> 00:49:20.920
hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm literally leaving the

00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:22.780
country. Yeah, I'm not talking about vacation.

00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:28.300
I'm not paying for a plan on that boat. I'm out,

00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:32.179
folks. Lori is a little bit like militant about

00:49:32.179 --> 00:49:41.829
me doing work. While we're on vacation. Oh, yeah.

00:49:41.989 --> 00:49:45.110
It's like, I mean, even if we're not on a cruise,

00:49:45.269 --> 00:49:49.670
it's like, no, you're not doing that. I pull

00:49:49.670 --> 00:49:50.969
out my phone. She's like, what are you doing?

00:49:51.289 --> 00:49:57.309
I was on Instagram. On social media. Put it away.

00:49:58.849 --> 00:50:02.590
Yikes. She's going to start taking your fingers

00:50:02.590 --> 00:50:06.789
off. I mean, seriously. But I'm talking about

00:50:06.789 --> 00:50:11.460
like everyday life. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah,

00:50:11.539 --> 00:50:16.699
to think that you could go home, turn this off,

00:50:16.739 --> 00:50:21.860
and say, see you at 8 a .m., that'd be amazing.

00:50:22.139 --> 00:50:26.380
Right? It'd be amazing. Just part of the nature

00:50:26.380 --> 00:50:30.099
of working in technology, being in charge of

00:50:30.099 --> 00:50:32.920
networks and AV equipment and things of that

00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:38.619
nature, it's very much like being a doctor. but

00:50:38.619 --> 00:50:41.920
you're very much on call all the time. All the

00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:44.159
time. And you never know when that call is coming

00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:46.579
that there's an emergency and someone's dying.

00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:51.880
Well, and I will tell you, it's so funny because

00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.659
I would say the number of times that I'm called

00:50:54.659 --> 00:50:59.300
and it's not an emergency by any stretch of the

00:50:59.300 --> 00:51:04.659
imagination is a little bit... It's emergency

00:51:04.659 --> 00:51:08.079
to them. Yeah. But it's not necessarily a true

00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:12.659
emergency. No. Like, stop, please. You constantly

00:51:12.659 --> 00:51:17.000
have to police that and walk through that and

00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:20.840
go, especially like for us in summer. Yeah. Everybody

00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:22.800
views everything as an emergency. Everything

00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.179
is burning down. Yeah. And it's like, I understand

00:51:25.179 --> 00:51:27.980
in your world right now, things are burning to

00:51:27.980 --> 00:51:31.820
the ground. It's bad. I have all these other

00:51:31.820 --> 00:51:34.079
problems that I'm currently working on, so I

00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:36.199
will get to you when I can. I'm sorry I can't

00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.260
get to you faster. Yeah. And you have to kind

00:51:39.260 --> 00:51:44.619
of process and work through that. That's real.

00:51:44.940 --> 00:51:48.500
Yep. Real talk, folks, here at Beer and Gear.

00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:51.639
Got to keep it real. Got to keep it real. Welcome

00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:54.340
to the world. I'm sorry, welcome to the land

00:51:54.340 --> 00:51:57.619
of the real. Of the real. There's your Matrix

00:51:57.619 --> 00:52:05.440
reference, folks. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. Why

00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:08.139
does it smell so good? I mean, I will tell you.

00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:12.840
I think the graham cracker that I was smelling

00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:16.460
before is like that vanilla inside of it that's

00:52:16.460 --> 00:52:22.219
a little bit. It's like a hint. It's not like

00:52:22.219 --> 00:52:24.019
you don't drink it and think, oh, that's vanilla.

00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:29.809
It's like it's part of the smooth. It's part

00:52:29.809 --> 00:52:36.989
of the sweet part of it that's really understated.

00:52:37.650 --> 00:52:43.710
Yeah. I don't think they put vanilla in it. I

00:52:43.710 --> 00:52:49.349
know there's chocolate in it. And I know they

00:52:49.349 --> 00:52:53.010
put a little bit of sugar. Definitely sugar.

00:52:54.570 --> 00:52:58.119
Unless there's something in that barrel. Or the

00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.380
barrels that they're using that impart some vanilla

00:53:00.380 --> 00:53:04.199
from the previous liquid owner of the barrel.

00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:07.500
I mean, that could be a possibility and you kind

00:53:07.500 --> 00:53:10.659
of pick some of that up. Coffee, chocolate, married

00:53:10.659 --> 00:53:14.639
with sweet undertones of vanilla and oak. Yep,

00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:17.179
they're calling it out. But I don't know where

00:53:17.179 --> 00:53:20.760
that's coming from. If it's oak, like vanilla

00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:22.699
and oak, then yeah, that would make sense if

00:53:22.699 --> 00:53:28.610
it was coming from the cask or the... whatever

00:53:28.610 --> 00:53:32.190
barrel it was aged in. We just need to start

00:53:32.190 --> 00:53:36.369
brewing this kind of beer and use that as an

00:53:36.369 --> 00:53:40.250
exit strategy. I mean, if we could achieve something

00:53:40.250 --> 00:53:43.409
like this, then I feel like we're done. Yeah,

00:53:43.429 --> 00:53:46.210
because we have breweries here, but they're not

00:53:46.210 --> 00:53:49.710
doing this type of stuff. No. I mean, the Archangel

00:53:49.710 --> 00:53:52.760
is good. It's a blended. You know, they've got

00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.239
some others, but it's nothing like this. No.

00:53:55.300 --> 00:53:57.820
And there's certainly nothing in town that even

00:53:57.820 --> 00:54:01.420
comes close to Triple Mash. No. So if you could

00:54:01.420 --> 00:54:04.500
figure this out. And I'll say, like, we've got

00:54:04.500 --> 00:54:08.320
bourbon barrels in Tyler. Yeah, we do. You know,

00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:10.800
there's a bunch of, not just Keepersaw, there's

00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:13.480
a few others. Like, you can get the bourbon barrels.

00:54:13.619 --> 00:54:16.840
Yes. You just got to then put your beer in it

00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:20.000
for three months and wait. I'm sure it's more

00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:25.800
complicated than that. Oh, sure. Sure. Oh, so

00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:30.039
good, man. So good. And it never, ever tastes

00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:34.340
like 11%. No. And that triple mash, that's 18.

00:54:34.739 --> 00:54:37.380
Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't like, you don't.

00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:39.840
It drinks so smooth. So when you're drinking

00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:43.659
like a. 110 proof or something like that, you

00:54:43.659 --> 00:54:47.519
start to get that like, oh, this is fire. It's

00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:50.340
not alcohol. This is not something to be drank.

00:54:50.460 --> 00:54:53.019
This is something to be burned. This is supposed

00:54:53.019 --> 00:54:55.400
to be like an antiseptic. Are we cleaning engines?

00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:57.880
Yeah, I don't think this is a good idea for me.

00:54:58.059 --> 00:55:01.820
Yeah. But that's not the case with these. I don't

00:55:01.820 --> 00:55:04.719
know if it's just because in the grand scheme

00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:06.440
of things, the percentage that we're talking

00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:10.800
about is not a huge jump, but it is double. Oh,

00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:14.070
yeah. You know, what you're used to. Absolutely.

00:55:14.389 --> 00:55:17.730
Because 5 .5 is a strong beer. Typically, yes.

00:55:17.849 --> 00:55:24.530
Yeah. Yep. This thing is 11%. Oh, it's so good.

00:55:24.610 --> 00:55:27.289
And Chris is on his second. I'd go for a three

00:55:27.289 --> 00:55:29.710
and four if I could. Well, you might have to

00:55:29.710 --> 00:55:35.050
drink that third one. Challenge accepted. I don't

00:55:35.050 --> 00:55:37.869
really have anything else. Okay. Well, I have

00:55:37.869 --> 00:55:41.829
a... Now, this gets geeky, and I'm not sure I

00:55:41.829 --> 00:55:46.510
can fully explain it all. Oh, where'd that page

00:55:46.510 --> 00:55:58.170
go? Oh. No. Because this is a long overdue Linux

00:55:58.170 --> 00:56:02.409
exploit. Oh, yeah. Because I had to do. Yeah,

00:56:02.449 --> 00:56:08.380
the exploit. Because this one is a high. That's

00:56:08.380 --> 00:56:11.760
it. Where do all the extra details go? Oh, come

00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.500
on, man. I don't know, Chris. I'm turning into

00:56:14.500 --> 00:56:19.780
Joe Biden. Come on, man. No, I don't think you

00:56:19.780 --> 00:56:22.460
are. Well, that's what he says. Come on, man.

00:56:23.179 --> 00:56:26.539
That's not what's going on. It's not going into

00:56:26.539 --> 00:56:30.440
the details. I need the details. As some people

00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.579
would say, I need the deets. And then I would

00:56:34.579 --> 00:56:36.679
feel the urge to want to shake them for saying

00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:40.340
I need the deets. You couldn't, that one syllable

00:56:40.340 --> 00:56:45.860
was really too much. Yeah, that's. We were talking

00:56:45.860 --> 00:56:50.920
about that on our way over here today. About

00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:58.039
the lack of, I don't know, follow through. Yes.

00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:03.320
Like, can you just finish the word? It's not

00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:06.440
really that hard. The rest of us are waiting

00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:11.460
on you to finish your sentence. Well, I feel

00:57:11.460 --> 00:57:14.320
like I'm leading everybody along here now. Yeah,

00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:16.760
no, it's not going to happen, guys. Might as

00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:18.579
well turn the episode off here. No, I'm trying,

00:57:18.659 --> 00:57:24.300
I'm trying, I'm trying. Oh, man. I need the epic

00:57:24.300 --> 00:57:35.219
fail jingle. Epic fail. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. There

00:57:35.219 --> 00:57:41.199
you go. That'll work. That'll work. Oh, that

00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:43.460
one says it's been resolved. That's no good.

00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:55.199
Boo! Mother... Mother puss bucket. That's your

00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:59.239
fill -in. Did you ever, so on this Christmas

00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:03.559
episode when we're talking about things Christmas,

00:58:03.900 --> 00:58:07.579
the greatest Christmas movie ever made, Die Hard.

00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.900
Oh, yeah. Did you ever see Brooklyn Nine -Nine?

00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.059
I've just seen bits and pieces. I never really

00:58:15.059 --> 00:58:18.239
watched it all. There's an episode where they

00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:22.170
are stopping a... robbery or something they stumble

00:58:22.170 --> 00:58:26.010
into people trying to um steal stuff i think

00:58:26.010 --> 00:58:31.969
from um uh what is it called like a department

00:58:31.969 --> 00:58:38.289
store um and i it's there's it's all kinds of

00:58:38.289 --> 00:58:42.030
convoluted but they like you know the main character

00:58:42.030 --> 00:58:45.570
in brooklyn line nine loves uh die hard and so

00:58:45.570 --> 00:58:48.230
he's joking about how this is the not joking

00:58:48.230 --> 00:58:51.300
he's like really excited about how this is, this

00:58:51.300 --> 00:58:54.659
is diehard and he's, it's Christmas and he's

00:58:54.659 --> 00:58:57.940
trying to save the people that are kidnapped

00:58:57.940 --> 00:59:03.260
by the terrorists slash thieves. And so anyway,

00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:08.360
the, he keeps getting kind of thwarted by his

00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:12.960
buddy who's a nerd and, but he's like super excited

00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:19.969
about being there. And he's like, is trying to

00:59:19.969 --> 00:59:23.869
relate to him, you know, wanting it to be Die

00:59:23.869 --> 00:59:26.590
Hard or whatever, says, yippee -ki -yack, other

00:59:26.590 --> 00:59:30.550
buckets. That's one way to clean it up. That's

00:59:30.550 --> 00:59:32.250
not what he says. And he's like, yeah, it is.

00:59:33.670 --> 00:59:36.369
Okay. No, definitely not what he says. I'm pretty

00:59:36.369 --> 00:59:38.230
sure it is. No, that's not what he says. That's

00:59:38.230 --> 00:59:41.170
one way to clean it up. I always tell people

00:59:41.170 --> 00:59:43.389
that that's one of Laurie's favorite movies.

00:59:43.869 --> 00:59:46.769
She did not watch that movie until we were...

00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:48.880
had been married for a while. Yeah. You tell

00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:51.099
me about that for wrapping. Um, but she watches

00:59:51.099 --> 00:59:53.860
it now to wrap a presence and she just like,

00:59:53.900 --> 00:59:57.539
she didn't know how funny Bruce Willis was and

00:59:57.539 --> 01:00:01.980
how funny this movie is. Um, so there, you know,

01:00:02.019 --> 01:00:05.360
it's serious. It's not a comedy. Sure. Like there,

01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:08.260
you know, we always had the running thing with

01:00:08.260 --> 01:00:11.000
some friends of mine about whether or not, um,

01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:16.659
con air takes itself seriously and i'm like i

01:00:16.659 --> 01:00:18.719
understand what you're saying that it doesn't

01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:21.539
take itself seriously yeah but i think that is

01:00:21.539 --> 01:00:29.099
an offshoot of like this idea that um that kind

01:00:29.099 --> 01:00:32.239
of started with die hard and some of these others

01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:35.960
that like these action movies need to be i mean

01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:38.079
it didn't it didn't really start with die hard

01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:41.780
i will tell you this is a james bond like What

01:00:41.780 --> 01:00:44.639
happens is you have these action heroes that

01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:50.480
need to be a little bit like they're so comfortable

01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:52.679
with the violence that they have to be a little

01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:56.019
bit funny in the midst of it as well. And when

01:00:56.019 --> 01:01:00.139
you overdo that to the point where you've got

01:01:00.139 --> 01:01:09.019
a huge Airbus crashing into Las Vegas and then

01:01:09.019 --> 01:01:12.559
there's a... chase scene on a fire truck like

01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:15.820
yeah there's like you've overdone it so much

01:01:15.820 --> 01:01:18.599
that now you're also having to overdo the like

01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:21.820
at that point you're all in quirkiness yeah the

01:01:21.820 --> 01:01:29.139
like funny in the midst of it so the line um

01:01:29.139 --> 01:01:35.920
i don't even remember something about uh do something

01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:40.519
and the bunny gets it like yeah put down the

01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:42.659
gun or the money dies or something like that.

01:01:43.420 --> 01:01:47.840
It's like, well, of course. Of course. You also

01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:53.420
had a guy who's in there for raping a lot of

01:01:53.420 --> 01:02:03.039
women. This is too... I don't know. I have mixed

01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:09.139
reviews, but Die Hard is definitely that... You

01:02:09.139 --> 01:02:12.099
don't expect the main character to say funny

01:02:12.099 --> 01:02:15.280
things. Correct. Yippee -ki -yay is not her favorite

01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:20.219
line. No. I'll just say it's the one after the

01:02:20.219 --> 01:02:25.519
deputy police chief complains about the glass.

01:02:25.940 --> 01:02:30.699
Yeah. That is so funny. And if I understand correctly,

01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:34.119
that wasn't in the script, the yippee -ki -yay.

01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:38.179
He made that up. Really? I'm reasonably certain

01:02:38.179 --> 01:02:42.019
on some random YouTube video. Did he choose Roy

01:02:42.019 --> 01:02:45.500
Rogers or was that in the script? That I don't

01:02:45.500 --> 01:02:47.880
know. Okay. That'd be interesting. Because the

01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:50.599
Yippee -ki -yay is directly tied to him saying

01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:53.579
he was always a fan of Roy Rogers. Those sequined

01:02:53.579 --> 01:02:58.280
shirts. Did you find it? I found one that will

01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.579
work. I just did a masterful job. You did. You

01:03:01.579 --> 01:03:03.480
did. You held it together. Stalling. You did.

01:03:04.059 --> 01:03:07.940
You held it together. Well done, sir. For that,

01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:10.579
you should open the other beer. I've got to finish

01:03:10.579 --> 01:03:16.800
this one. Lightweight. Okay, so this is Linux

01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:20.800
technically. It's related to Chrome. Not a lightweight.

01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:24.500
I just drink slow. That's lightweight. Okay.

01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:26.300
You're pacing yourself. Come on, man. That's

01:03:26.300 --> 01:03:29.659
not what's happening. That's cheating. Next thing

01:03:29.659 --> 01:03:30.960
you know, you're going to be telling me you ate

01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:32.460
a bunch of bread before we started the show.

01:03:32.460 --> 01:03:40.360
I talk too much. Okay, so this has to do with

01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:45.840
Chrome, and it can give users full control, which

01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:48.380
is never what you want. I'm sorry? This exploit

01:03:48.380 --> 01:03:53.320
could give an attacker full control. At that

01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:56.420
point, it's game over. At that point, they may

01:03:56.420 --> 01:03:57.880
as well just have their hands on the equipment.

01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:02.840
Because this isn't the one that I previously

01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:04.880
looked at, I'm going to have to just do a bunch

01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:07.900
of reading. Bear with me, folks. It's going to

01:04:07.900 --> 01:04:10.400
be great. As long as the beer didn't kick in.

01:04:11.699 --> 01:04:14.139
If he starts slurring the words, then you know.

01:04:15.019 --> 01:04:20.789
This is a crazy exploit. Yes. Okay. A critical

01:04:20.789 --> 01:04:22.989
vulnerability in the Linux kernel identified

01:04:22.989 --> 01:04:30.869
as CVE -2025 -38 -236 enables attackers to escalate

01:04:30.869 --> 01:04:34.650
privileges from the Chrome renderer sandbox to

01:04:34.650 --> 01:04:37.929
full kernel -level control on affected systems.

01:04:38.230 --> 01:04:40.510
Yeah, I missed all of that. Yeah. Immediate patching

01:04:40.510 --> 01:04:43.730
is essential as successful exploitation grants

01:04:43.730 --> 01:04:46.389
attackers complete control over the operating

01:04:46.389 --> 01:04:49.059
system's core. That's just straight up bad news.

01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:51.880
Yeah, that doesn't sound good. No, because again,

01:04:52.099 --> 01:04:59.699
if they've achieved full access, it's game over.

01:05:00.460 --> 01:05:02.559
You may as well just opened up the server room

01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:07.519
and said, have your way, boys. Go for it. Yeah,

01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:13.679
I don't... I don't know what would be worse than

01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:15.840
that. I guess just letting them be in there.

01:05:16.190 --> 01:05:18.110
Basically, yeah. I mean, that's like just open

01:05:18.110 --> 01:05:20.269
the door and say, here you go. Do your worst.

01:05:22.269 --> 01:05:24.849
Honest, this one has a score of 7 .3, so that's

01:05:24.849 --> 01:05:27.670
pretty high. That's pretty high. That is a –

01:05:27.670 --> 01:05:32.250
as soon as a – 7 .3 out of 7 .5. I believe it's

01:05:32.250 --> 01:05:34.150
out of 10. Yeah, I know. But it's high enough

01:05:34.150 --> 01:05:38.170
that once there is a fix, you sure better apply

01:05:38.170 --> 01:05:43.449
it. Don't play games. Do not – oh, that's crazy

01:05:43.449 --> 01:05:45.900
small phone. I ain't reading that. I was trying

01:05:45.900 --> 01:05:47.960
to get some more details on the CVE. Some of

01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:52.380
the details are really, really small, which means

01:05:52.380 --> 01:05:56.239
that they're so scared of you knowing this that

01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:58.400
they're not even going to put it in a reasonable

01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:02.139
font. Okay, so here's the exploitation method.

01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:07.599
Big words. Initial access. Attackers begin with

01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:11.280
the Chrome renderer sandbox. You all hear that

01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.119
bike in the background? That's a lot, guys. We're

01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:16.650
trying to record a show here. Really loud. Okay,

01:06:16.730 --> 01:06:20.070
try again. Attackers begin with a Chrome renderer

01:06:20.070 --> 01:06:23.670
sandbox, potentially via drive -by compromise

01:06:23.670 --> 01:06:27.510
or malicious web content. Then they go to the

01:06:27.510 --> 01:06:31.110
targeting vulnerability. A crafted set of socket

01:06:31.110 --> 01:06:35.889
operations is used to exploit a bug in the Unix

01:06:35.889 --> 01:06:38.989
domain sockets. From there, they go to kernel

01:06:38.989 --> 01:06:42.409
memory manipulation. You don't want to be found

01:06:42.409 --> 01:06:47.110
in invalid memory. Invalid memory. Oh, man. That's

01:06:47.110 --> 01:06:50.309
an IT crowd joke for all you people that are

01:06:50.309 --> 01:06:53.769
hanging in there. Wow. Yes. Exploiting the UAF

01:06:53.769 --> 01:06:56.489
condition, attackers gain the ability to copy

01:06:56.489 --> 01:07:00.690
arbitrary kernel memory into user space. This

01:07:00.690 --> 01:07:03.730
is getting bad fast. Yeah. Privilege escalation.

01:07:04.030 --> 01:07:07.789
Kernel -level privileges are obtained bypassing

01:07:07.789 --> 01:07:10.940
sandbox restrictions. So basically what's happening

01:07:10.940 --> 01:07:12.980
here. If you don't know what a kernel is, you

01:07:12.980 --> 01:07:15.119
need to stop. Well, you're listening to the wrong

01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:16.840
show. Yeah. And if you don't know what the sandbox

01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:18.659
is, you're probably on the wrong show as well.

01:07:19.099 --> 01:07:21.619
Basically, what they're achieving here is what

01:07:21.619 --> 01:07:23.900
I'm waiting for somebody to figure out on a Mac.

01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:27.159
Because they're talking about, I'm in the sandbox.

01:07:27.539 --> 01:07:30.420
I'm in this protected spot. I can't get out of

01:07:30.420 --> 01:07:33.980
here. Yeah. Oh, wait, I just got out. Yeah. That's

01:07:33.980 --> 01:07:36.360
the way that the Mac handles security. Which

01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:44.050
is why. I feel like they doubled down on this

01:07:44.050 --> 01:07:48.789
kernel security a couple of years ago to try

01:07:48.789 --> 01:07:53.610
to limit things like this. Certain apps will

01:07:53.610 --> 01:07:55.750
tell you that they're not going to run on a Mac

01:07:55.750 --> 01:08:01.909
because they don't have kernel access. And it's

01:08:01.909 --> 01:08:05.550
because they're trying to limit the number of

01:08:05.550 --> 01:08:10.849
vulnerabilities in that range. this is one of

01:08:10.849 --> 01:08:12.630
those like having your cake and eating it too

01:08:12.630 --> 01:08:16.189
moments for a lot of Mac users where they're

01:08:16.189 --> 01:08:23.050
like, Oh, I like Mac. So like, but are you, are

01:08:23.050 --> 01:08:26.510
you going to keep doing what you're doing? Because

01:08:26.510 --> 01:08:31.449
that doesn't jive with the security level. Sure.

01:08:31.670 --> 01:08:34.590
That Mac's trying to maintain. Correct. With

01:08:34.590 --> 01:08:37.409
all their stuff. So I don't know. I think there's

01:08:37.409 --> 01:08:41.180
a lot of people that in the last, for uh three

01:08:41.180 --> 01:08:45.600
years um two or three years um that are mac users

01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.960
that have seen a little when they booted up their

01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:54.460
mac or uh and you know did their software update

01:08:54.460 --> 01:08:57.180
they've seen a little gray window appear in the

01:08:57.180 --> 01:08:59.079
front of them that talks about legacy software

01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:03.260
and if you actually read it it's talking about

01:09:03.260 --> 01:09:07.100
kernel access yeah um which nobody reads that

01:09:07.100 --> 01:09:10.699
they just hit no or okay okay move on whatever

01:09:10.699 --> 01:09:13.600
i mean the number of people that haven't read

01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:17.399
the eula is incredible to me oh sure um but i

01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:20.699
mean you know you just said that you you don't

01:09:20.699 --> 01:09:23.439
own anything right okay i'm just making sure

01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:28.239
you knew that yep um but like yeah it's a lot

01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:34.640
yep yep so They're trying to be secure, but it's

01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:37.020
inevitable. It's a matter of time that somebody's

01:09:37.020 --> 01:09:38.960
going to figure it out. Oh, sure. Just like what

01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:40.680
happened here. Because again, with this one,

01:09:40.779 --> 01:09:44.340
they talk about with root level access, attackers

01:09:44.340 --> 01:09:47.140
can disable security tools, implement backdoors,

01:09:47.340 --> 01:09:52.159
and move laterally within networks. So eventually

01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:53.960
somebody's going to figure this out with Mac.

01:09:54.180 --> 01:09:57.699
Right. And then all hell's going to break loose.

01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:03.470
Because how many people run... any kind of antivirus,

01:10:03.489 --> 01:10:08.229
endpoint protection. I will tell you. Any kind

01:10:08.229 --> 01:10:10.329
on their Mac. That a person was talking to me

01:10:10.329 --> 01:10:13.270
recently about their Mac and whether or not they

01:10:13.270 --> 01:10:17.229
needed to run an antivirus on it because they

01:10:17.229 --> 01:10:23.409
were running an antivirus and a VPN. Okay. And

01:10:23.409 --> 01:10:25.310
I was like, well, I will tell you, this is probably

01:10:25.310 --> 01:10:27.569
the most secure Mac that I've seen in a while.

01:10:29.210 --> 01:10:33.430
And that's saying something. Sure. Like, I don't

01:10:33.430 --> 01:10:37.229
know that, like, you're causing, this is a pretty

01:10:37.229 --> 01:10:42.989
basic end user, all things considered. I was

01:10:42.989 --> 01:10:46.210
like, you're running into problems with your

01:10:46.210 --> 01:10:48.750
connection because of how sophisticated you're

01:10:48.750 --> 01:10:51.229
trying to make your security side of things.

01:10:51.649 --> 01:10:53.750
And it's not that I'm telling you not to do that.

01:10:53.829 --> 01:10:57.430
I think this is great. Yep. Do your thing. But.

01:10:57.899 --> 01:11:00.899
The reason that you're calling me is because

01:11:00.899 --> 01:11:04.779
these things aren't playing nice together. Correct.

01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:07.060
And you've got to kind of overcome that in order

01:11:07.060 --> 01:11:15.520
to. Yep. Yep. It's pretty crazy. So I would tell

01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:21.119
anybody, yes, you need to run antivirus slash

01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:26.180
EDR, whatever flavor you want to go with. Do

01:11:26.180 --> 01:11:29.529
you have a recommendation? I like Sentinel -1,

01:11:29.630 --> 01:11:32.229
but that's not necessarily great for people at

01:11:32.229 --> 01:11:38.689
home. In business, I like it. One that still

01:11:38.689 --> 01:11:43.770
does a reasonably good job on the Mac is Malwarebytes.

01:11:44.989 --> 01:11:46.850
Yeah, Malwarebytes still does that. Still use

01:11:46.850 --> 01:11:49.029
that from time to time on a PC to help with cleanup.

01:11:49.210 --> 01:11:51.590
Yeah. I actually think that's what these people

01:11:51.590 --> 01:12:00.180
were using. Okay. Yeah. So on the VPN... SentinelOne

01:12:00.180 --> 01:12:03.220
is just SentinelOne .com for anybody who's...

01:12:03.220 --> 01:12:09.619
Yes. I'm trying not to go down that rabbit hole,

01:12:09.779 --> 01:12:15.560
but to me, the VPN is basically kind of useless

01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:19.989
in my opinion. Well, I was telling this... family

01:12:19.989 --> 01:12:22.430
that was that was using a vpn i was like i don't

01:12:22.430 --> 01:12:24.930
i don't think you understand what a vpn does

01:12:24.930 --> 01:12:28.010
sure because they they saw it as a security measure

01:12:28.010 --> 01:12:29.970
and i'm like i understand that that's what it's

01:12:29.970 --> 01:12:36.909
like yeah used as now in terms of its privacy

01:12:36.909 --> 01:12:39.510
sure in certain environments it works well in

01:12:39.510 --> 01:12:43.109
that you appear to not be coming from the place

01:12:43.109 --> 01:12:46.090
that you're coming from correct but correct the

01:12:46.090 --> 01:12:49.529
idea that you're being targeted and a really

01:12:49.529 --> 01:12:52.130
small town in East Texas because of where you

01:12:52.130 --> 01:12:57.109
are is not realistic. I think using a VPN, again,

01:12:57.390 --> 01:12:59.869
you have to kind of consider your environment.

01:13:00.050 --> 01:13:04.520
But if you're using somebody's... free wifi somewhere

01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:08.439
and there's no password to join. It's just wide

01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:11.119
open. It's unencrypted. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You

01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:15.180
should probably put a VPN on and protect yourself.

01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:19.819
Yeah. If you're at least being required to use

01:13:19.819 --> 01:13:21.539
a password because there's some level of encryption

01:13:21.539 --> 01:13:24.800
going on, could you still run the VPN? Yeah,

01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:28.199
sure. But you're probably going to be okay unless

01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:33.109
your desire is again to prevent the service provider

01:13:33.109 --> 01:13:36.130
of that network from having direct access to

01:13:36.130 --> 01:13:38.770
what you're doing. And some people want that,

01:13:38.810 --> 01:13:42.390
and that's fine. But I still believe that the

01:13:42.390 --> 01:13:44.789
only reason these VPN services exist, and I'm

01:13:44.789 --> 01:13:46.430
not going to go any further with this because

01:13:46.430 --> 01:13:50.140
that's a whole other subject, is... They're giving

01:13:50.140 --> 01:13:51.840
all that information to the government anyways.

01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:55.119
You think that you're protecting yourself and,

01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:57.199
oh man, nobody knows, blah, blah, blah, blah,

01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:00.640
blah, blah, blah. Oh, bull crap. When you hear

01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:02.699
the people... Well, I definitely think that the

01:14:02.699 --> 01:14:05.100
idea that nobody knows is bull crap, but the

01:14:05.100 --> 01:14:09.279
idea that they are doing it in order to... To

01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:12.420
circumvent... It's all junk. That's interesting.

01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:15.579
I mean, when I hear... The people in the FBI

01:14:15.579 --> 01:14:18.819
talking about, oh, people can't have encryption

01:14:18.819 --> 01:14:21.079
because we can't see it, or they can't have VPNs

01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:22.460
because we can't see it. You're talking about

01:14:22.460 --> 01:14:25.000
people actually listening to the FBI. I'm pretty

01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:28.300
sure that the people who are listening, I'm doing

01:14:28.300 --> 01:14:30.460
air quotes, listening to the FBI are listening

01:14:30.460 --> 01:14:35.600
to the... TV show, FBI. Sure. But I mean, you

01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:37.739
have people before Congress sitting there going,

01:14:37.859 --> 01:14:40.680
if people have access to this, we can't see this.

01:14:40.739 --> 01:14:43.300
I will tell you Congress. Yeah. And Congress

01:14:43.300 --> 01:14:46.619
members don't know anything like that was. No,

01:14:46.619 --> 01:14:49.300
no. If you want to like see something that'll

01:14:49.300 --> 01:14:51.640
make you feel like a really smart individual,

01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:58.859
watch the, um, the tick tock. About the island

01:14:58.859 --> 01:15:02.300
tipping over? Well, no, that one was ridiculous.

01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:07.439
That's a different level of stupid. No, the guy

01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:13.300
from Singapore that was interviewed by Congress

01:15:13.300 --> 01:15:16.579
about TikTok. I think it was TikTok. Anyway,

01:15:16.819 --> 01:15:19.279
he got asked some questions that I was like,

01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:24.060
are you kidding me? I feel like I know what you're

01:15:24.060 --> 01:15:28.800
referencing. And I remember him going. I'm not

01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:31.920
Chinese. Yeah. Yeah. That one was definitely

01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:34.199
part of it where he was like the guy who didn't

01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:37.180
understand where Singapore was. Yes. And he kept

01:15:37.180 --> 01:15:39.020
asking if he was part of the Chinese communist.

01:15:41.200 --> 01:15:43.880
Party, yeah. And he was like, no, I'm Singaporean.

01:15:43.939 --> 01:15:46.220
I'm from Singapore. I'm from Singapore. He's

01:15:46.220 --> 01:15:48.500
like, I don't know where that is. I'm like, okay,

01:15:48.579 --> 01:15:51.680
well, you should probably not be where you are.

01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:53.460
Why don't you go talk to Congressman Johnson

01:15:53.460 --> 01:15:55.800
and ask him about the island tipping over because

01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:57.760
there's too many military. No, I'm talking about

01:15:57.760 --> 01:16:07.479
when he got asked if TikTok connects to his home

01:16:07.479 --> 01:16:12.899
network. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. I mean, not

01:16:12.899 --> 01:16:17.399
if you're not connected to your home. Like if

01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:20.159
you're connected, if you're on TikTok and connected

01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:24.859
to your home network, it has to in order to reach

01:16:24.859 --> 01:16:28.659
the internet. But like it was that moment where

01:16:28.659 --> 01:16:30.239
somebody who knows what they're talking about

01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:34.319
is going, you don't know that there's not like

01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:39.960
you're not. Yep. Yep. There's a lot of late.

01:16:41.240 --> 01:16:43.600
Literally, there's a lot of layers that you're

01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:48.560
missing. Correct. Correct. So, yeah, and TikTok

01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:51.020
is a whole other level of insanity. I'm not saying

01:16:51.020 --> 01:16:53.079
you should get on TikTok. I'm just saying that

01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:55.359
this person who is talking to Congress knows

01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:57.239
what he's talking about. Sure. And they don't.

01:16:57.260 --> 01:16:58.600
And they don't. But, yeah, but I mean, to me,

01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:00.760
the whole thing with TikTok is a farce. If I'm

01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:04.180
on TikTok and I put my headphones in, can you

01:17:04.180 --> 01:17:09.319
hear what I'm thinking? Yeah. No. Can you hear

01:17:09.319 --> 01:17:11.739
what you're thinking? I don't think they can

01:17:11.739 --> 01:17:14.199
sometimes either. But yeah, TikTok is a whole

01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:17.000
other level of like, y 'all are full of it. Because

01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:18.560
they're complaining about TikTok. Well, they're

01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:20.140
tracking this and they're tracking that and they're

01:17:20.140 --> 01:17:22.840
tracking that. And it's like, yes, Facebook does

01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:25.939
it. Instagram does it. Snapchat does it. The

01:17:25.939 --> 01:17:27.840
only reason why you're complaining about TikTok

01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:31.000
is because the Chinese aren't sharing that data

01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:33.619
with you like the other guys are. It's important

01:17:33.619 --> 01:17:36.619
to know that. That's the whole point of it. Yeah.

01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:39.560
is the government is not getting the data from

01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:41.439
TikTok that they want, which is why they're trying

01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:45.380
to get these guys in America to supposedly buy

01:17:45.380 --> 01:17:48.539
TikTok so that they can now have access to all

01:17:48.539 --> 01:17:52.159
this additional data. It's all about the information.

01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:55.699
It's not about the Chinese. It's not about security.

01:17:56.840 --> 01:18:01.260
Don't buy into the junk. But that's another discussion

01:18:01.260 --> 01:18:07.880
for another show. I mean... Maybe next show we'll

01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:10.060
talk about that. Who knows? Well, next show is

01:18:10.060 --> 01:18:13.819
50. Next show we probably actually should play

01:18:13.819 --> 01:18:17.600
a drinking game. It's the 50th. Well, listen

01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:21.159
to... Never mind. I'm not doing that. I'm not

01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:22.939
doing that. We're not doing that. I've seen a

01:18:22.939 --> 01:18:29.220
few card games that were drinking games. Now,

01:18:29.220 --> 01:18:30.739
some of them we have to probably throw the cards

01:18:30.739 --> 01:18:35.140
out, but there's one called Drink If. Yeah. So

01:18:35.140 --> 01:18:37.390
you can... Imagine some of the cards that are

01:18:37.390 --> 01:18:38.869
potentially there where you're like, nope, not

01:18:38.869 --> 01:18:41.470
good for this show. We're not saying that on.

01:18:41.890 --> 01:18:43.869
This one is actually family friendly. Here we

01:18:43.869 --> 01:18:51.470
go, folks. All right. So, yeah. So there you

01:18:51.470 --> 01:18:55.050
go. It sounded like you were about to say something

01:18:55.050 --> 01:18:57.909
else. I had to shut my brain down. Okay. Well,

01:18:57.949 --> 01:19:00.189
there you go. So I do have one other thing to

01:19:00.189 --> 01:19:02.489
talk about. Drink when you hear us say, well,

01:19:02.529 --> 01:19:07.810
there you go. Oh, boy. Drink if you hear this

01:19:07.810 --> 01:19:11.789
word. Or you basically do beer and gear bingo.

01:19:13.029 --> 01:19:15.050
I mean, I'd be interested. But if you see it,

01:19:15.069 --> 01:19:17.130
if they say what's in your square, you take a

01:19:17.130 --> 01:19:22.829
drink. Yeah. So I wish that I had some, and I

01:19:22.829 --> 01:19:24.970
probably do. I just need to do more digging into

01:19:24.970 --> 01:19:28.550
this. But I've been looking at our numbers from

01:19:28.550 --> 01:19:33.189
OP3. Yes. You were trying to pull those up desperately

01:19:33.189 --> 01:19:36.989
while we were starting. Yes. So something very

01:19:36.989 --> 01:19:39.409
strange happened, and I'm left to assume it was

01:19:39.409 --> 01:19:43.529
bots. Okay. Because it doesn't show any actual

01:19:43.529 --> 01:19:47.890
non -bot downloads. But on the release of the

01:19:47.890 --> 01:19:50.689
last show, speaking of, I didn't mean for that

01:19:50.689 --> 01:19:53.630
show to be called Fun Times. I just had to put

01:19:53.630 --> 01:19:57.439
a placeholder in. And I woke up the next day.

01:19:57.439 --> 01:19:58.800
And it went out like that. And what are you going

01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:03.619
to do? Oh, I didn't change the title. But on

01:20:03.619 --> 01:20:08.979
that release day, we had 117 downloads. Yeah,

01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:10.960
that doesn't sound right. But of those, six of

01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:13.960
them were considered not bot traffic. Okay. But

01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:17.119
I'm sitting there going, I'm like, okay, so what

01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:20.840
are the bots like? Because I'd love to know.

01:20:21.579 --> 01:20:24.199
Because something made them. The fact that it's.

01:20:25.050 --> 01:20:30.130
The reaction to that is, so how can we do that

01:20:30.130 --> 01:20:32.930
again? Well, yeah. I mean, I look at the numbers

01:20:32.930 --> 01:20:35.170
and I'm like, I see, okay, that show did well.

01:20:35.210 --> 01:20:37.770
Okay, that's fine. That show bombed. That show

01:20:37.770 --> 01:20:41.229
did well. And I look at that and I go, is it

01:20:41.229 --> 01:20:43.369
literally because I called it fun times that

01:20:43.369 --> 01:20:45.229
all the bots went, oh, this must be a great show.

01:20:46.109 --> 01:20:49.250
That'd be great. I'm in favor. Because roughly

01:20:49.250 --> 01:20:54.029
four days later, we got another. Yeah, I read

01:20:54.029 --> 01:20:57.350
that right. 46 downloads on one day. Wow. And

01:20:57.350 --> 01:20:59.949
again, none of them translated into non -bot

01:20:59.949 --> 01:21:03.829
downloads. Interesting. So we had like 150 semi

01:21:03.829 --> 01:21:07.029
-bot downloads. And I'm sitting here going, how

01:21:07.029 --> 01:21:09.829
many people are out there just scraping stuff

01:21:09.829 --> 01:21:14.029
based off of a show called Fun Times? That's

01:21:14.029 --> 01:21:17.689
weird. It is. It is. So, I mean, it makes our

01:21:17.689 --> 01:21:20.130
numbers look great. I mean, in the last 30 days,

01:21:20.170 --> 01:21:23.329
we've had 261 downloads. Take that, Joe Rogan.

01:21:23.829 --> 01:21:27.909
In the last seven days. You mean Henry Rollins.

01:21:28.170 --> 01:21:31.069
Henry Rollins. There you go. Start calling him

01:21:31.069 --> 01:21:35.310
Joe Rollins. Joe Rollins. There you go. But in

01:21:35.310 --> 01:21:37.189
the last seven days, because of this, we've had

01:21:37.189 --> 01:21:41.609
171 downloads. There you go. But when you look

01:21:41.609 --> 01:21:44.840
at that. And so in December, we've had the 171,

01:21:44.899 --> 01:21:47.779
but 130 of those have been unique. Interesting.

01:21:48.100 --> 01:21:50.699
But it's probably like 100 of those have been

01:21:50.699 --> 01:21:54.239
bots. Yeah, I get that. So it's fun to watch

01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:56.840
these numbers. And especially when you compare

01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:00.619
it against what rss .com shows. And RSS is just

01:22:00.619 --> 01:22:03.439
like, man, we don't have those numbers. I don't

01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:04.979
know what you're talking about. Yeah, that's

01:22:04.979 --> 01:22:07.100
not a real thing. So yeah, I feel like I need

01:22:07.100 --> 01:22:11.319
to reach out to somebody at OP3 and go, do you

01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:14.899
do like, Zoom trainings to be able to understand

01:22:14.899 --> 01:22:18.159
this and realize what's happening. What do I

01:22:18.159 --> 01:22:24.239
need to do in order to be able to read this data?

01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:28.739
Yeah. All right, brother. All right. Well, I

01:22:28.739 --> 01:22:32.439
enjoyed it. It was another good show. Really

01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:35.520
good beer. Really good beer. Thank you. Thank

01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:38.880
you, Ethan. Bring in your gift for both of us

01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:41.710
to enjoy. Sure. How could I get Dragon's Mill

01:22:41.710 --> 01:22:44.470
and not share it? I mean, bro, I appreciate that,

01:22:44.550 --> 01:22:46.409
but there's a lot of people who wouldn't. Oh,

01:22:46.550 --> 01:22:48.590
man. You got to share the good stuff when you

01:22:48.590 --> 01:22:53.430
get it. Yeah. Don't be a Scrooge. A Scrooge,

01:22:53.430 --> 01:22:55.289
yeah. Don't be a Scrooge. Don't be a Grinch.

01:22:55.630 --> 01:22:59.210
Share. Share and share alike. All right. All

01:22:59.210 --> 01:23:22.279
right. See you, everybody. See you. If you want

01:23:22.279 --> 01:23:24.739
the two seed, if you want a home playoff game,

01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:30.579
if you want to win the NFC North, onside. Oh,

01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:38.220
no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Onside. Did Dobbs lose that

01:23:38.220 --> 01:23:40.920
ball on the onside? Are you joking? It's Bears

01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:44.180
ball. Are you freaking kidding me? And it's Chicago

01:23:44.180 --> 01:23:48.899
ball. Why can't we have nice things? Why can't

01:23:48.899 --> 01:23:51.649
we have nice things? I've got to be kidding me.

01:23:51.710 --> 01:23:57.270
Are you serious? Are you serious? How do you

01:23:57.270 --> 01:24:07.170
not look? Why is Dobbs backing up? Just catch

01:24:07.170 --> 01:24:13.529
the ball. Romeo, what are you doing? Romeo, what

01:24:13.529 --> 01:24:18.449
a great game he was having, too. Oh, no. Dobbs,

01:24:18.449 --> 01:24:19.810
why are you taking your eye off the ball like

01:24:19.810 --> 01:24:26.289
you need to run? Just secure it. Oh my god. It's

01:24:26.289 --> 01:24:28.609
second and two. Balls on the 32 of Green Bay.

01:24:28.710 --> 01:24:31.909
Thank you, Anonymous. Caleb and shotgun fires

01:24:31.909 --> 01:24:35.329
and it is caught. Of course, it's DJ Moore at

01:24:35.329 --> 01:24:40.670
the 12. Everything hurts. It hurts so much. This

01:24:40.670 --> 01:24:47.970
is pain. Just nothing but pain. My heart is pounding.

01:24:50.369 --> 01:24:55.149
Williams. Gun. Two receivers. Each side. Fires.

01:24:55.789 --> 01:24:58.789
Hits Loveland. Tight ends. Continue to kill on

01:24:58.789 --> 01:25:09.510
this drive. Why do we run cover three every play?

01:25:11.390 --> 01:25:14.829
No, they're going to get a post on you. God.

01:25:20.770 --> 01:25:23.810
Hide -ins are destroying on this drive. Loveland

01:25:23.810 --> 01:25:27.090
and Komet. Back -to -back -to -back -to -back

01:25:27.090 --> 01:25:32.689
-to -back. My team can't recover an onside kick.

01:25:33.090 --> 01:25:35.890
Balls at the six. Caleb Williams in shotgun with

01:25:35.890 --> 01:25:38.050
a back line up to his right. 35 seconds to go.

01:25:38.130 --> 01:25:40.050
Takes a snap. Fires towards the end zone. And

01:25:40.050 --> 01:25:42.409
it is high and incomplete. Third and four. Looking

01:25:42.409 --> 01:25:48.470
for Zaccheaus. In the gun. Swift in the backfield.

01:25:48.890 --> 01:25:51.789
Backers showing blitz. They bring it. Gray Walker

01:25:51.789 --> 01:25:56.229
in pursuit. Back in the end zone. Oh, no. Touchdown,

01:25:56.270 --> 01:26:05.029
Bears. Fuck. Yep. Got it. Why are you so open?

01:26:05.670 --> 01:26:12.670
Oh, my gosh. They're an extra point away from

01:26:12.670 --> 01:26:16.609
tying. Somehow a bust. Somehow nobody was back

01:26:16.609 --> 01:26:25.750
there. It's unbelievable. This is unbelievable.

01:26:27.590 --> 01:26:37.229
Keyshawn Nixon. Keyshawn Nixon. We're not going

01:26:37.229 --> 01:26:41.670
to go for two. Kick is up. Nope, it's good. It

01:26:41.670 --> 01:26:46.930
is a tie game. I hate everything. This is awful.

01:26:47.289 --> 01:27:11.430
This is so, so bad. You were up 16. It's fourth

01:27:11.430 --> 01:27:13.829
and one. All right, they're going for it, or

01:27:13.829 --> 01:27:15.970
at least they're lining up to go for it. From

01:27:15.970 --> 01:27:21.489
the 36, this could be it. Excuse me, Willis under

01:27:21.489 --> 01:27:24.489
center. Oh, my gosh, balls on the turf. Balls

01:27:24.489 --> 01:27:32.649
out. Oh. Are you serious? They fumbled the ball.

01:27:32.789 --> 01:27:35.250
They fumbled the ball. They fumbled the ball.

01:27:35.390 --> 01:27:38.630
They fumbled the ball. They fumbled the freaking

01:27:38.630 --> 01:27:41.670
ball. What an embarrassment, man. What a freaking

01:27:41.670 --> 01:27:44.010
embarrassment. What an embarrassment. What a

01:27:44.010 --> 01:27:53.430
freaking embarrassment. We just imploded. That

01:27:53.430 --> 01:28:03.630
is unbelievable. That is crazy. Division season

01:28:03.630 --> 01:28:09.119
on the line. a spot for the number two seed in

01:28:09.119 --> 01:28:13.239
the NFC. For the lead in the NFC North. And this

01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:17.359
is what you do. You can't recover an onside kick.

01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:23.899
You can't snap it. Come on, Pac. Please, just

01:28:23.899 --> 01:28:26.420
throw an interception. Caleb rolling out to his

01:28:26.420 --> 01:28:29.479
right has all day. Finally getting flushed out

01:28:29.479 --> 01:28:31.380
and is just going to throw it away incomplete.

01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:37.640
Second and ten. 6 .02 to go. What an embarrassment,

01:28:37.659 --> 01:28:49.159
dude. Yeah, the Packers have done everything

01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:51.640
in their power to lose this game. Everything

01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:55.659
in their power. Wasn't his fault, but it looked

01:28:55.659 --> 01:28:57.319
like it. It might have been. I mean, it sure

01:28:57.319 --> 01:29:01.560
looks like it, but we'll see. I'm sure half of

01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:06.539
it will talk about it. Next score wins. 602.

01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:11.319
Hand off. Swift. Met at the line by Quay Walker.

01:29:11.420 --> 01:29:15.079
Drags his six yards. Fumble. Fumble. Fumble.

01:29:15.220 --> 01:29:20.159
The ball came out. What are they ruling it? It's

01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:24.699
Parker's ball. Yes. Yes. Yes. What's the call?

01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:27.039
We got it. We got it. We got it. Let's go. Let's

01:29:27.039 --> 01:29:33.239
go. Oh. Okay, Walker brings him down, brings

01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:35.100
him down, brings him down, brings him down. He's

01:29:35.100 --> 01:29:37.779
not on the ground yet. He's down. That's not

01:29:37.779 --> 01:29:40.699
a fumble. Come on. Why are you even marking that?

01:29:40.779 --> 01:29:50.159
It's not a fumble. He's freaking down. Just a

01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:52.800
bunch of losers, man. That's it. Just a bunch

01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:57.899
of losers. There's winners in life. There's losers

01:29:57.899 --> 01:30:00.560
in life. This team's full of a bunch of losers.

01:30:01.210 --> 01:30:02.949
They are. They've been doing a lot of that in

01:30:02.949 --> 01:30:09.890
the fourth quarter. Yep. Third and three. And

01:30:09.890 --> 01:30:15.170
motion. Hand off. First down. First down. They

01:30:15.170 --> 01:30:20.689
can't stop a nosebleed. Thank you for the 20.

01:30:20.789 --> 01:30:25.539
This is just, dude, I mean, this is so bad. I

01:30:25.539 --> 01:30:27.800
mean, this is just a failure on so many food

01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:29.779
levels. And you're freaking under center. You

01:30:29.779 --> 01:30:31.560
know who could snap it under center? Me. When

01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:34.439
I was seven years old. When I was freaking seven

01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:38.899
years old. It was complex at the time when I

01:30:38.899 --> 01:30:41.520
was a first grader. Man, it made my head spin.

01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:44.939
But we got it done. But we did it. We snapped

01:30:44.939 --> 01:30:48.659
the damn football. The 46 of Green Bay. I formation

01:30:48.659 --> 01:30:52.699
here. And Williams under center. Play action.

01:30:53.260 --> 01:30:54.640
Come on, get some pressure on him. He's going

01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:56.720
for it all. He's going deep, and it's going to

01:30:56.720 --> 01:30:59.300
be a touchdown. DJ Moore catches it. Packers

01:30:59.300 --> 01:31:12.899
lose. Touchdown. Game. Division. Game over. That's

01:31:12.899 --> 01:31:29.199
absolutely insane. What a disastrous end for

01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:32.720
the Packers, man. What a horrible end to that

01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:42.680
game. What a joke. What a freaking joke. Team's

01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:46.060
full of a bunch of losers. Full of a bunch of

01:31:46.060 --> 01:31:49.359
losers. Oh, dude, that is absolutely fucking

01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:54.039
insane. That is absolutely fucking insane what

01:31:54.039 --> 01:31:56.949
just went down. I don't even, I don't even have

01:31:56.949 --> 01:32:10.189
any words. I don't have any words. Can't recover.

01:32:12.369 --> 01:32:12.989
Onside kick.