Hey, Chris. Hey, John. How's it going? Good.
How are you? Oh, I've been better. Uh -oh. Yeah.
So I got a call from the old middle school where
my kids go today, and my son has been suspended
for three days, and they're looking at sending
him to alternate education. Oh. So I'm pretty
riled up. I suspect. Right now. Wow. Feeling
all the feelings. Yeah. Frustrated with him and
with the system. Sure. It's just a lot. So would
that send him over to Plyer? I don't know. DAEP
is, yeah, I don't know. Okay. So, yeah, that's
what we got going on over here. Let's jump into
the beer. Okay. Having said that, I actually
brought the beer today. You did. We're going
to try a new beer. Where's the pretzels? I did
not bring crab dip or pretzels. I feel like a
real slouch of a host. Yeah. Because Chris has
been knocking it out of the park lately with
the. um all the things but we got this um i got
this the other day i saw it um and i was like
oh that'd be a good one and then i was like you
know what i'm not even going to drink it until
the show so okay this is uh mountain fork yeah
hold on just a second let me pop that out there
for you where'd you find this one at um i found
this at a gas station okay on shiloh and uh paluxy
okay um Right. Yeah. Shiloh and Paluxy kind of
across the street from those apartment buildings.
I don't know if you're down that way very much.
Yeah. Yeah. But they had a whole bunch of like
really. What do you call it? Like all these flavored
beers and all this other like a bunch of IPAs
and things like that. And I was like, OK, well,
I'm probably not going to find anything then.
Yeah. But I. Poked around just a little bit longer,
and I found one from Hokotown, Oklahoma, which
is Beaver's Bend. Yeah. So if you've ever been
up there. But this is called Mountain Fork MFB
9 .0. It's an American stout. 9 % alcohol by
volume. And, yeah, I don't actually know. I didn't
look anything up on it. There's no blurb on the
can, and there's no blurb on the site. I mean,
he already looked. I did. You're just the man.
Well, I figured you brought the beverage. I could
at least look for some information. No information
about it, so we're just going to crack these
open and see what happens. Why not? I feel like
it's a pretty, like, it's not abnormal to see
the, you know, American ale, American, you know,
version of whatever, but this American stout,
Cheers. I feel like you got a lot to live up
to here, so we're going to find out. Yeah. Smells
smooth. Mm -hmm. Tastes smooth. Okay. Got a little
bit on the back end. Yeah. Not too sure what
to call that. I don't know. It's not like dishwasher
soap. No, it's not dish soap, and it is not.
Pumpkin spice. It's not pumpkin spice. I'll tell
you that right now. There is a little bit, though,
of, I guess, hoppiness. I don't know if that's
what they're calling American. The front end
was so smooth, though. Yeah. Front of the tongue
is... I'm trying to find some other people who
give a little more information on it. Uh -huh.
Yeah, I don't know. Not my favorite stout. No,
no, no, no, no. But we've got four of these,
so we've got to drink it. We'll get it. Never
give up on a beer. Yeah. That's Chris's motto.
Pours an effervescent cola mahogany. Okay. Cola
mahogany. I do feel like I'm chewing on a piece
of wood right now. With a pinky of tan head.
I don't know what they mean by a pinky. Unless
they're talking about like thin. Just a small
little bit. Tons of barrel and dark fruit, some
iron notes, once warm. Okay. Once warm fruitiness
fades. So they're saying dark cherry, leafy hops.
I would agree with that. Molasses notes. I don't
get that. I don't get the molasses. Barrel dryness.
Definitely get the barrel dryness. With faint
bourbon notes. I didn't get any bourbon. Did
you? And hints of iron up front. And to me, I
didn't get the iron up front. I would almost
argue iron on the back end. And maybe that's
like when it's colder or warmer, it's going to
come up to the front of the palette. But that's
weird. No, I don't think I would have described
some of it the way that they did. I'm not getting
any like. What is that? Minimal carbonation,
a little sticky. What does that even mean? A
little sticky, a little warming. Carbonation
is out of whack. But you just said minimal carbonation.
Yeah, I think they mean that it probably needs
more. Probably needs more. I will tell you a
lot of stouts that I've had are almost, they
don't taste like flat Coke, but you know what
I mean? It's like they're flat. Yeah, so this
person says, for taste, they say sweet, roasty
malt with a bit of astringent roastiness and
a fair amount of toffee and sweet bread flavor.
Where are they getting this? Did we get a bad
batch? Yeah, I don't know if we got a bad batch
or we're drinking this too cold. I don't know,
but I would not agree with the assessment here.
And I'm not getting any fruitiness. No, not at
all. Cherry is one of those fruits that I'm like...
I mean, I guess I just don't taste cherry a lot.
Maybe there's something that I'm missing here.
The smell is pleasant. It's not bad. There's
a little bit of... Maybe there's a slight hint
of some kind of fruit on the smell, but it's
not there in the taste. Yeah, I'm not. I don't
know. Again, it's not the worst beer I've had.
No, we've had worse. But I'm not sure I'm buying
this again. No. That's what I get for taking
a chance on Oklahoma. That's okay. That's the
whole point of this show is to try new beers.
I did that in college, too, and it didn't work
out for me. But the AI says I did it. Yeah, I
know. The AI is completely wrong. Yes. But again,
that's the whole point of the show is we bring
something new. We try to anyways. And then we
give you our input and our feedback and you can
either take it or leave it. Feel free to leave
it. This is one where you should probably take
it. Yeah, I would say go ahead and take it. Yeah.
What are you going to do? I will drink my second
one just because. Yeah, I mean, it's a 9%. Might
as well. Oh, it's lightweight this week. Yeah,
right. Holy cow. I'm really shocked that they
don't have anything on their site about it. You
would think they would. They'd be like, yeah,
we got rid of all that because it didn't taste
like what we thought it was going to taste like.
Maybe. Become a VIP. I don't think so. Fog Dog.
That's one of theirs. Peachy Sneaky Snake. Honky
Tonk Light. The Rooster. Oh, I don't know. I'm
going to butcher that one. Hocha Weezin. Or Hoka
Weezin or something. Hoka Weezin. Well, Hoka
Weezin, yeah. It's supposed to be a wheat beer.
Weezin Weezin. Gentleman Jackalope. Juicy. No,
thank you. If your first lead into your beer
is it's juicy, I'm out. Crumpet. English brown
ale. I'd give that a try. I don't know if that's
my jam. $2 .59 ale. Okay. Yeah, they just...
So they just have award -winning, a robust dark
ale with layers of flavor. Let it warm to enjoy
fully. Maybe they're not cold beer people. Oh,
if you go there, you can get it on tap and a
nitro. That would change the flavor profile.
Oh, for sure it would. I bet it's better on nitro,
but I don't know how much better. And that may
not be worth the trip. But if you're going up
there anyway, if you were going to spend some
time on the beaver's bend, then you might look
it up and see if you can. Find some. It's not
a bad idea to do a road trip on one of these
shows. Oh, yeah. No, for sure. That'd be great.
I was thinking more Dallas, but, you know. Hey,
wherever. Wherever. Wherever. We get big enough,
we'll do road shows. Yeah, we will. Just run
anywhere you all want us to go. Well, I have
a story. Yeah, tell me your story. I don't think
I've told you this. Garrett is thinking about
moving. What? Exactly. So this is, again, one
of those where we're still trying to understand
what it means to parent an adult child. Well,
sure. And he just turned 21. So in fairness,
he's been a legal adult for a little while. But
he was 19 when he graduated high school. So a
year of that doesn't quite line up with. What
you normally would expect. Yeah, he has decided
that in May, when his buddy graduates from high
school, that they're moving to Austin. And of
course... To do what? That's a great question.
And I don't have an answer for it yet. So it's
led into some discussions and it's just kind
of like, okay, you know what Austin is. Yeah.
You know that the people that are becoming more
common in Austin are not the people that you
want to be around. Just saying. You still live
at home. We help with car payment insurance.
You're going to take on all that? Yeah. I'm like,
you don't live on your own. There are some steps
here in between that I think you're missing.
I mean, do you know what you're going to do for
money? Exactly. It's like, what are you going
to do for a job? You know, we're trying to line
up this stuff for the electrical, but you've
got to do that here pretty quick and make a commitment.
And then you can't just give up on that commitment.
Could you try to find it in Austin? Yeah, sure.
We could probably try to find it, but we don't
know anybody there. We're here. We at least know
a few folks that could try to help us through
the process. Right. And it's just kind of like,
I don't think that this idea is fully thought
through. And you try to have that conversation.
And of course, it's not taken constructively.
You're just being the mean parent who wants to
hold him back and doesn't want him to experience
life. And it's like, no, no, no. I can potentially
see why you might feel that way a little bit.
But no, this is one of those where as you're
a parent, I need to go, hold on. let's think
this through because you're, you're, in my opinion,
you're jumping three or four steps ahead here.
There's a, let's get you somewhere here where
you live on your own. Prove yourself for a year
that you can stand on your own two feet. You
pay for everything. We're not splitting anything
with you. And then you could go, okay, I think
now I can make that bigger leap out there. Cause
it's like, You can't go into this decision thinking,
well, if all else fails, I'll just go back home
with mom and dad. Because you're setting yourself
up for failure. You're giving yourself an out.
All else will fail. I just want you to know.
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And it's the same
thing we talk to people that are getting married.
It's like, you can't go in thinking, well, I
can always get divorced. It's like, no, you've
already set yourself up. Yeah, let's not do that.
That's not an option. You just got to go. And
once you're in, you're in. And so it's just kind
of like, it's not that if he goes and it goes
bad, we're going to say, oh, you can't come back
home. But it's the, we tried to tell you, we
tried to teach you, we tried to educate you,
hold off, hold off. But you went, it's your decision
to make. I will respect that. Yeah. But you really
need to be prepared for what you're asking for
here. And let me just tell you what that is.
Adulthood sucks. Yes, it does. Not trying to
be a jerk. It just sucks. Yeah. So we're trying
to figure that out. Obviously, there's time between
now and May. Lots of things could change. Yeah.
A girl could pop into the picture, which is a
total curveball. I mean, come on. I've seen it
happen many times. Yeah. And he may end up with
a job opportunity that he just can't refuse unless
you're going to be crazy. Yeah. So, I mean, I,
I mean, I'd be fully, fully on board with like,
Hey, I want to live in Austin. Okay. Like when
you, when you are able to like figure that out,
how you're going to make that happen or have
like a job interview or, I don't know. It was
just, I almost feel like I'm a bank going, show
me your business plan. Yeah. What, what do you,
what do you think is going to happen? Yeah. Cause
I can tell you what's. Like all the ways that
that goes sideways. Oh, yeah. Pretty quick. And
that's fine as long as you're, I mean, you know,
that's part of life. Failure. Big failure. That's
how you learn. Setting yourself up for, you know,
I think there is some level of like when you're
parenting, you got to understand that they don't
have the cost. benefit analysis that you do but
that you also had to come by that the hard way
oh yeah um and so there's a lot of times where
i'm like um yeah that's a really bad idea but
i guess if you don't um the other side of that
is if you don't if you don't ever let your kid
experience really bad ideas yeah then they just
they think that bad things never happen to them.
Correct. It's like, no, they do all the time.
I just have always, you know, made sure that
you didn't feel any consequences for that. Yeah.
Which is not good. Well, there's always the,
as a parent, you go, that's not going to hurt
so bad. They'll, they'll dust themselves off.
Yeah. And you let it go. Yeah. And then there
are the some that you're just like, no, no, no,
no, wait, that hurts. Don't do that. That one,
that one really is painful. Yeah. That leaves
lasting marks. Don't do that. They just don't
listen. No, no. The parents just don't understand.
Exactly. So that's the newest. That's pretty
big. Thing in our house. Yeah. Trying to figure
that out. No big deal. Just walking through the
big stuff. Yeah. Let me know how that goes so
I can, you know, prepare for my children. We
knew eventually it was coming. Sure. But we weren't
thinking Austin. If he said, hey, we're going
to get an apartment here in town. That's very
different. Sure. That's a good first logical
leap. You're going to have a roommate. You're
going to split the costs and you're going to
figure this thing out. But five hours away, crazy
expensive. Yeah. A bunch of crazy people. Very
different world. Oh, yeah. I mean, when I was
his age, I had no concept of cost of living.
So that makes total sense to me. Nope. That it
would be like, what are you talking about? It
costs to live? Yes, it costs to live. It does.
I'm not even talking about the hard stuff yet.
I'm just talking about living. Yep. L -I -V -I
-N, man. Living. Just living. I stay the same
age? No, no, they stay the same age. Yeah, what
is it? I get older, they stay the same age? Yeah.
Yikes. There's your movie reference. It's been
a while since I've watched that one. Oh, yeah.
I don't remember the last time I saw that. I
mean, probably for good reason. It's just one
of those ones. You got anything else going on?
No, no, that's kind of the kind of it in our
house. I mean, obviously. Thanksgiving has happened
and Christmas is coming up and. It'll be a different
Christmas because Bob and Barbara, my in -laws,
will be in South Dakota still. So we won't do
Christmas Eve with them, which will mean that
Christmas Eve we can just kind of chill and do
our own thing. I don't even know what that's
like. Yeah, Christmas will be a little different
because my niece and her husband will be in Wyoming.
Okay. We're doing early Christmas with them a
week from tomorrow. Nice. And then that following
Saturday, then they're taking off to Wyoming
because he's in the Air Force and he's going
to be stationed in Cheyenne. Nice. So they're
going to figure out cost of living too. Yeah.
It's a very different world. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
because she's obviously leaving her job here,
got to find a job there. They already know that
there's no on -base living for them. Oh, that's
going to suck. But so that he will, for that,
we'll get a stipend. Okay. To offset that. But
that sounds like the kind of thing that would
be like, given all of it, they're all given the
same stipend no matter where they live. And that's
not where you want to be. Correct. Because it's
not going to be as expensive as it probably needs
to be. Yeah. So we'll see how that one goes.
Yeah. Maddie is 20, and Brayden is 20 as well.
These kids. Yes. Just running off to do their
own thing. Yes, yes, yes. So other than that,
no, not a whole lot going on there. I told you,
I don't know if I told you, about telling Lori
that we only had, what is it now, five more years
with Maddie? Yeah. In the house. And she was
like, uh, no, sorry. You never know. Not trying
to be a jerk, but that's what you need to prepare
yourself for. Yeah. Eesh. Um, you got a big anniversary
coming up. I do. I do. Yes. Friday, 20, 20 years,
20 whole years. Hard to believe. Hard to believe.
I thought three to five tops. When you started,
you thought three to five tops. Yeah, I figured
three to five tops. I didn't necessarily think
I would stay in ministry. I figured I'd be off
to whatever is the next step in being an IT professional.
And 20 years later, still here. Still here. Still
trying to figure out what's next in being an
IT professional. Yeah, no kidding. There's been
a lot of next, actually. It's just been very
weird. Oh yes. I'm sure. So yeah, that's a, that's
this Friday. That's this Friday. Yeah. Golly.
Yeah. I am mentally preparing myself for the
10 to 11 party at the HQ. It's going to be draining
for me because it means a ton of social interaction.
Well, so I've got a, there, there will be people
there for sure. Hopefully they'll talk to each
other. Well, they will. Just kind of stand next
to Michelle. Yes. We're just over here in the
corner. Don't mind us. It's fine. I'm having
a very serious conversation with my dad. We're
going to slip into the back closet and check
on this AV gear. You guys talk amongst yourselves.
Yeah. So, yeah, preparing for that. Yeah. And
then there will be a very small lunch. Speaking
of, Garrett let the cat out of the bag on where
we're going. Oh, man, Garrett. He sent me a picture
the other day, and he's like, is this you? And
I'm like, technically, that's my boss, but yes.
He's like, you kind of let the cat out of the
bag. Buddy. He's like, well, okay. We're going
to Bernard's. It's going to be great. It's going
to be great food. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I said
that. I didn't think that that's actually where
we would go. No, no, no. That was kind of like
we told our kids, you know, when we're asked,
where do you want to go eat? Right. Don't be
afraid to aim big. Yeah, because you never know
if it's going to be yes. Sometimes you might
get a yes, but you may get knocked down a couple
of notches. Yeah. But it's better than coming
in on the low end and immediately getting a yes
and then finding out that you may be able to.
get a couple more levels up. So it was one of
those that give us some places where you'd like
to go. Bernard's here, here, here. Uh, let it
happen. So I'm going to tell you what mine, um,
like lower cost option was. What, what would
your, I had put, so the next level down, Would
be something kind of like an Outback -ish type
of, you can still get a decent steak. And then
below that, then I start getting into Jason's
and Nuke's and places like that. I said China
Chef and Chandler. That would be a throwback.
I was like, it would be hilarious. Total throwback.
Especially if Helen's still there. I hear that
they're leaving. Are leaving, not have already
left? Yeah, I'm hearing that they're leaving,
that they're going to shut it down. Her family
is going back to China. Okay. And they are moving
to Austin. Oh. Okay. So, we'll see. Went by there
the other day with Jeff Olcheski, and it was
still open. Well, there you go. So, we'll see.
But you went by there the other day with Jeff
Olcheski. Yeah, we went to have... Lunch at the
new Mexican place. I'm not going to remember
the name. In Chandler. It was good. Not. Oh my
gosh. Now I can't even remember what it was called.
Oh yeah. I'm not going to remember the original
name. That's hilarious. Well. But it's the one
whole Mexican restaurant that I know of in Chandler.
Right. So if you know Chandler and you're going
through there, you know what I'm talking about.
It's the only one. Yeah. The last time I drove
through there, there were a lot of. Places that
didn't used to be there. Oh, yeah. It's like,
wow. Chandler's like a city now. They have a
Starbucks. What is going on? Yeah. It's still
a town. It is. It is, but they have a Starbucks,
so that's a good anchor spot. Mm -hmm. And things
will naturally show up around. Always. And when
they get their Walmart, they're going to explode.
Goodness. Where are they going to put a Walmart?
You don't know? You're just saying when they
get their Walmart. Yeah, no, for sure. That's
a different level. There's a little bit of land
as you're heading into town, and there's quite
a bit, actually, once you get past the main light
there. Oh, no, I didn't know any of that was
for sale is what I'm saying. Oh, it's always
for sale for the right number. Yeah, for the
right number. It just seems like the kind of
thing that those people are going to hold on
to for a while. And that would be wise. Yep,
because. That's how that goes. We originally
went there because we were going to go to Wade's
place. Oh, man. Wade's place. But because it
was Thanksgiving week, they were closed. They
were closed the whole week? The whole week. That's
sad. That's what they do, though. That ribeye
sandwich with the fries. Oh, my gosh. It's so
good. All right. I'm going to stop thinking about
that because. I'm going to drink this beer. Hey,
I went to the road website, and it says that
they're estimating that the delivery is going
to be December 22nd. Oh, just in time for Christmas.
We technically, well, let me check the calendar.
I don't know when that's going to happen. I don't
want to promise anything here. No, we're not
promising anything. So if you get it on the 22nd.
We are technically scheduled to do a show the
next day, the 23rd. It could happen. It could
happen. And I'm not saying we're going to do
video. No, no, we don't need to be trying to
do video the first day that we have it. Why isn't
this working? Oh my gosh, that would be terrible.
We don't have a great track record with just...
On the fly trying to add something. It's the
remote stuff that gets us. Oh, no, for sure it
does. And we have real gear. It's not like we're
using cheap gray market and going, why isn't
this working? I mean, we have road gear. It's
good gear. And I listen to other podcasters do
it. And it works. And I'm sitting there going,
am I just that stupid? Because they make it look
easy. What am I doing wrong here? Yes. Nice.
Yeah. Got number two out and everything. I haven't
made it there yet. Yeah, I actually have another
story for you on Monday. My parents switched.
ISPs, um, to AT &T from Texas. Oh, they left
Texas. Yeah. They haven't had a good experience.
Wow. I'm, I'm, I'm finding this kind of, um,
yeah, in different areas of Tyler, like, well,
and I, I say different areas. Like I had a much
better experience than Chad did with them putting
vexus in. Okay. Um, and like lately there've
been some, slower, like what is going on, uh,
moments on our, on our network. But, um, on the
whole, I haven't had really that many problems.
Um, mom and dad have had a lot and especially
speed related, like watching something streaming
and it's buffering like the entire time and things
like that. And so, uh, it's always DNS. It's
always DNS. Um, So they decided to switch. And
I was like, okay, well, this time when you're
switching, we're just going to tell them that
we're not going to use their stuff. Yes. And
I will bring over the equipment and we will set
you up. I smell ubiquity. Yeah. So they've got
a dream machine over there. Oh, nice. It's a
dream machine that I have set up in a different
situation before. So I was having to try to like.
retrofit everything so i got over there early
and i was trying to not like reset the entire
thing i just wanted to like make some adjustments
and everything like that and i'm telling you
like i sat there for i don't know i got over
there maybe 10 10 30 and i sat there uh for an
hour okay getting it to connect on their old
network okay using their old fiber um and i was
like okay okay so we're we're good like i don't
this isn't going to be a problem the guy comes
over he starts doing everything and i'm walking
him through like actually this is where they
um i actually didn't know where they came in
which was funny because i thought it was in a
different place altogether but um they run the
line from uh uh where their vault is and then
came around and i was like just come in through
the um attic here and then you can drop down
this wall you can even use the um cable that's
in the wall right here no big deal um and so
they do all that they pull through and then he
pulls out a box like this is not just a splice
it's not just the little modem with the you know
network jack on it this is a full -blown like
the combo yeah it's the modem router yeah ap
combo that they put in everywhere and i was like
uh i don't like that is there i don't i would
rather not and he was like well this is what
we use so you just plug into this it'll be fine
and i was like i think I don't, I don't think
that's going to like, I, I, you're not giving
me full access to that. Correct. I'm not going
to have like admin, right? He's like, well, yeah,
you do. And so he like, this is how you log into
it. Do you use this app? You connect on this
app or whatever. And I was like, well, I don't
like where this is going. Sure enough. He does
his thing, plugs it in, runs his little test
on it. And he's like, yeah, we're getting 1200
up and down. or something like that okay i was
like that's great um and he's like you need anything
else for me i was like well i don't know but
we're i guess we're gonna find out yeah so he
takes off and i plug that thing into um uh the
dream machine and it just does not like it it's
not pulling um it's got a you know i had it set
for I was going to do fancy and have two different
VLANs and be able to do, um, I don't know, some
segmentation inside of it and everything. And
it like, it was just, it took me the next two
and a half hours, at least maybe three hours
to get the thing to even, um, you know, have
any kind of throughput. Like there was, it was
like the, whatever DNS that other box was, you
know, handing out or whatever was just like struggling
to try to handshake with the dream machine. Finally
found a, setting on it like you know digging
through like all the different like i don't know
this software i don't know the interface at all
yeah finally found one that was like a downstream
router allowing a downstream router and i was
like cool um but did it fix it uh i don't know
like you know it's one of those things that when
you've been doing um when you've been trying
solutions for a couple hours you get to the impatient
point where you're like i'm gonna do this and
this and this yeah and then i'm gonna restart
because i am tired of restarting every two minutes
sure for one setting at a time because i don't
know if you've restarted a dream machine in a
while thanks well it's It's a lot longer than
I was hoping. Yes. I think the Express might
be faster. I would think so, especially being
new hardware. I mean, this is a DR7, like your
UDR7, whatever they call them now. Yeah. So I
don't know. I was just having Apple trash can
flashbacks. Please don't. Please don't be a problem.
because i would hate to like talk you know ubiquity
up to this guy and he's like yeah no they're
great like that's i say they're second best or
whatever and i was like what do you think is
first best um and he didn't say um um ero who
did he say it was not one of the like top you
know he wasn't talking about he didn't he didn't
say cisco he didn't say Whatever. It was definitely
in the consumer category that he was talking
about. Netgear or anything like that? No, it
wasn't Netgear. It wasn't Aruba. It wasn't Dell.
There's the one that tries to be a competitor
to Ubiquiti. Fortinet. That's who we use, but
I wouldn't put them in the... TP -Link is who
I hear a lot of people... Talking about now,
that's the one that's carried by Best Buy. Yeah,
that one scares me. Some of the potential for
the Chinese backdoors in that one makes me a
little nervous. Anyway. Not Ekahau. Oh, what
is it? Oh, my gosh. I should know this. I was
looking at it the other day. Omada, which I think
is technically TP -Link. Yeah, no, that's TP
-Link. But that wasn't what he was talking about?
I think it had a B in it. Anyway, I was definitely
like, yeah, I don't think so, man. I'm not sure
they're beating out Ubiquiti. And when I said
that, I was like, I just really like Ubiquiti's
single pane of glass. And you could see his eyes
went. Yeah. It's never a good, oh, ingenious
maybe? No. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to be out of
ideas. Yeah, it's never a pleasant feeling when
you're talking to tech support. Yeah. And it
becomes obvious that you know more than they
do. I was like, I don't. And it's like, oh boy,
this is not going to go well. I don't know what's
about to happen here, but I don't think that
I can ask you the questions that I'm. Because,
you know, there was part of me that was like,
as soon as he was like, yeah, no, it's fine for
it to be, you know, just plug it in afterwards.
I was like, I think maybe you are hoping that
it's fine. So were they giving you a copper handoff?
No. Oh, sorry. Yeah, no, it is copper. Or is
it fiber into their box? It's fiber into their
box and then copper into mine. And then copper
out. Okay, so I... Now, that Dream Machine doesn't
have an SFP, does it? It does. Their SFP, though,
is not the kind that I have in stock. Sure, but
the AT &T box, does it have an SFP in it? It
does. Okay, so I don't know if it will translate
to that hardware. I did try. But I saw a video
of a guy who found a way to make the AT &T. sfp
work in his ubiquity gear oh i'm about to i'll
have to try to track that down um but it was
a lot of work oh man well but i mean if you get
it in the end i mean it would be really nice
it's worth it's worth the headache i mean that
was me to well didn't mean that whoops sorry
folks yeah it was um it was definitely one of
those i was like i you know what i'm gonna try
it I'm going to see, like I'm going to plug this
SFP in. I'm not going to force anything or whatever.
It's a very weird little jack that they have
on that. I'll send it to you. Nice. Okay. So
there's a possibility there. It was not what
I was hoping for that day. I was kind of hoping
I would. get there early and get things settled
so that when I needed to just whatever, Oh, what,
what seemed to make the most difference was resetting
the, um, dream machines. Um, not, not the whole
thing. I didn't reset the whole thing. I did.
I, I reset the, um, um, the beginning address
of the, um, IP. I was like, this thing is starting
like the, I, I, the, the like process that my
brain was going down was my, like I had set up
the dream machine to start at zero dot one and
then go. Okay. Um, and then the VLAN after that
to be one dot and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. The neck year was starting at one dot.
And I was like, there's, This doesn't matter.
This should not matter at all. But I'm going
to start at 2 .0. So AT &T was doing 192 .168
.1? Yeah. And it didn't start at 1 .1. It started
at 1 .64 or something like that. But then your
Ubiquiti gear was trying to do... 0 .1. 0 .1.
So that's two different subnets. So that should
have still worked. Yep. Interesting. I'm just
saying that not a lot of it made sense what I
was running into. So your brain starts to do
the like, what are the things that don't make
sense? Sure, sure. What if I do this instead?
I probably would have led with, I'm doing a factory
reset of this. Yeah. And I'm going to start from
scratch. Yeah. And it sounds like that wouldn't
even have been a guarantee that it would work.
Okay. But, I mean, that would have been my approach.
I would have factory wiped it, let them get it
set up. I'm like, okay, great. I'm going to plug
my computer into your gear first and make sure
it works and do my own testing. Yeah. And then
now I'm going to introduce this and see what
happens. Yeah. I did end up at the end of it
going back in and disabling their Wi -Fi. Oh,
absolutely. Because I was like, you know what
we're not going to do? No, we're not going to
have that. Just have your antenna trying to mess
with my antenna. No, no, no. Get it out of there.
So that was fun. And that took a while. Again,
I just, I'm always so, I feel like I'm babied
now by Ubiquiti's interface. Sure. Sure. There
are still a lot of times that I'm going through
something and I'm like, I think that they hid
that. Like they kind of buried that. Yes. And
they've got a few different things right now
in their UI that are like, you can go here to
find that or you can go here to find that, but
if you are on your phone, neither one of them
work. Correct. I'm like, okay, well, that's not
helpful. Correct. I think they've all but gotten
rid of the go to classic view because that was
the bad thing there for a while is in the new
view, you didn't see it. But if you flip back
to the classic view, the settings you were looking
for were there. I think they've pretty well ironed
that out. The other thing that I would have done,
it sounds like you didn't because you were using
a Wi -Fi 7 dream machine for your folks. I, in
the way I would have taken an approach to go,
I have an opportunity to upgrade here. I'm going
to get the new stuff. Hey, Mom and Dad, here's
the old stuff. It's going to be amazing for you.
You aren't even going to understand what it's
doing in the background. That's true. They wouldn't
know a thing. You wouldn't notice. Should have
just done that. You missed an opportunity, man.
I did, but, you know, it's my mother. I'm going
to give her just the best that she possibly can.
And that's great, but she's not going to know.
No, she's not. It's going to be an underutilized
piece of hardware. You're right. It is. It's
going to be totally underutilized, especially
when I start buying them APs. I was trying to
explain that. They were like, so do we need,
because they had an extender with their old system.
Oh, yeah. And they're like, do we need any other?
And I don't know what they called it because.
Do we need another thing over there? Over there.
Something like that because they didn't know
extender. Yeah. They didn't know anything. But
I was like, I don't think so, but I'd love to
see if you live with it for two weeks what it's
like because they spend the huge majority of
their lives in that house in two different rooms.
Okay. Which is hilarious because it's bigger
than that. Living room bedroom? They have a den.
Okay. Which is like, it was like the original
mother -in -law suite. So next to the kitchen,
kind of on the other side of the house from the
other bedrooms, they have this room with its
own full bathroom. Yeah. And it's right next
to the laundry room. And actually they spend
most of their time there. Okay. But then if mom
wants to watch something and dad wants to. watch
his read or or if he's you know watching golf
i guess or something like that he goes in the
living room okay so they call that little mother
-in -law suite they call that the den now okay
yeah and they call the living room the living
room but those are really the two rooms that
they're in okay all the time and i do think that
mom has taken to sleeping in the den she just
falls asleep on her little couch and she's done
but It's pretty funny. Get her a recliner. Oh,
she's got one. It's a loveseat recliner. Oh.
So she puts her feet up while she's watching,
you know, the Rangers. And then it lights out.
And then it lights out. Oh, she sounds like Jacob.
Oh, yeah? When he starts watching anything on
sports related or even a movie. Yeah. He's not
going to finish it. He's out. I don't get that.
He's out. Like, I cannot. Yeah. I mean, like,
the other day. I guess, what, Monday? Although
I think he made it through most of it. He's a
Chargers fan, him and his wife, and they beat
the Eagles in OT. Yeah. Huge win for the Chargers.
What a weird game. Oh, yeah. Well, I was excited
because we have to do, I shouldn't say we have
to, although it feels that way, for work. We
had to do fantasy football. Yeah, it does feel
that way. And I was kind of like, yeah, you know,
I got out of this for a reason because I started
rooting against my own team. This is no fun.
But we happen to have the Chargers defense, and
they got us some decent points. Nice. Helps when
they have, I think, three interceptions and a
fumble recovery. I was like, holy cow. Yes. It's
been a while since I saw a quarterback throw
to the other team this much. I mean, was there
one or two of them that was tipped? But there
were quite a few in that game. Oh, yeah. There
were a bunch that it was like, why? Who are you
throwing it to? Correct. I have no idea what
you were just thinking. Correct. Jalen Hurts
is not usually that guy. No, no, no, no. So we'll
see what that means for Philly. I mean, they're
not looking very good right now. And it's intriguing
to see. Neither is Kansas City. Yeah, that's
what I'm going to say. Both Super Bowl teams
are looking pretty rough right now. Yep. And
I feel like that loss to Philly. the Texans is
all but a deal breaker for the chiefs. Oh yeah.
That's, that's what that feels like. They think,
I think they, after they lost to the Cowboys,
they needed to win out. Yeah. I don't think that
they, so if they're mathematically eliminated
to me, that's, that's, that's crack open another
beer party. It is. It is interesting that this
is the, I think the first time. Oh yeah. And
the Mahomes is since he's been a starter. That
he's missed the playoffs, which I mean. It happens.
Yeah. Wow. It happened to Brady. It did happen
to Brady. So now what I think is going to be
intriguing is for them is that obviously Travis
Kelsey, he's close to retirement. I think he
is. And so once he's gone, are they going to
find. Are they rebuilding? Yeah. What are they
going to do? Are they going to find him? Because
like for Brady, he went through a stint with
no. tied in, and then finally they got him Gronk.
Yeah. And he became the security blanket. Oh,
yeah. So what is Mahomes going to do without
that security blanket? I don't know. And I do
think Kelsey may play longer than I expect him
to play. He's not playing the position his brother
played. No. But you can see a decline. Yeah,
but I don't know if that's just because of relationship
stuff. It is absolutely the Taylor Swift effect.
I'm not trying to be that guy. It doesn't have
anything to do with Taylor Swift in my mind.
I'll be the guy. It's a girl. It's Taylor Swift
effect. Okay. I think that when a guy really,
really is into a girl. Yeah. It changes things.
It changes things. Absolutely. There are other
places you'd rather be. Sure. I'm just saying.
Sure. And I would say, like, okay, but, like,
she breaks up with him, I think he comes back
with a vengeance. Oh, without a doubt. You just
want to beat the crap out of somebody. I feel
like if they would have won it last year and
beat Philly, he absolutely would have retired
on top. I don't know, man. I think he would.
I really do. I think he would. Because you could
already start to see the Taylor Swift effect
last season. Yeah, I would say so. This season
it's in full effect. Yeah, it really seems like
it. Which, I mean, he may be like, I don't want
to make that sound like something that it's not.
I would imagine with somebody who is a professional
athlete, he's probably one of the most competitive
people in the world just based on that solely.
But there is like there. I don't know if there's
like a. I don't know how to put it like. Just
listening to him and his brother talk because
their podcast is hilarious. Yeah. Because they're
brothers. I feel like there would be a lot of
brother podcasts that are just funny. But he
just doesn't like. You can tell he's competitive
when he gets out there. Sure. And they talk about
like the competition of it and everything like
that. But they're so laid back. You know, they're
not Michael Jordan. No. No, no. They're not like
burning it all down for winning, which is amazing
because both of them won a lot. Oh, yeah. I don't
know. There's a lot of things to talk about with
that. Moving into another segment of this episode
that we don't have any whatever for, we have
a tradition, custom, whatever, on staff at our
church that when we do our Christmas party, we
exchange shirts and we make each other draw names.
buy a shirt for somebody i've heard about this
shirt okay this shirt potentially yes oh dadgummit
well i still want to see if it's what i'm thinking
i am frustrated if somebody let this out of the
bag anyway Chris has not technically ever been
on staff, which I think is a tragedy, but he's
worked here so much and for so many years. So
I saw this shirt, and I was like, oh, I'm buying
it for Chris as his Christmas shirt. Because
if I remember correctly, you got the shirt from
Rustin's wife. Am I wrong? Yes. I got the craft.
Yes. I like crafts. Yes, that one, yes. I almost
wore it to this show. Okay. Because I thought
that would have been a good one. That would have
been funny. It's just got beers and it says life
is good. Unless this is that shirt, then maybe
I don't know what this is. No, this isn't that
shirt. Okay, then I don't know. I bought you
a shirt. Okay. I found this shirt. I bought it
for you because I laughed really hard seeing
it. And I was like, well. i just pulled my mic
down with the shirt yeah i was like why did i
just get quieter anyway um i was like well chris
needs this shirt and i feel like it's one that
you're gonna actually wear because it's not you
know i've bought a few shirts that i'm like i
don't know if they're gonna wear that well it's
i would love to wear the i'm here because you
broke it I did buy you that shirt. That's not
a very well -received shirt. It absolutely is.
People take stuff personal. Well, I don't think
that they should because you're really good at
not making it personal. Sure, but the one that
people do love is the Wi -Fi is down with the
dinosaur screaming with his arms up. Oh, my gosh.
I forgot about that shirt. That was hilarious.
Yes. Asteroid coming down. The Wi -Fi is down.
The Wi -Fi is down. It doesn't matter if the
world's about to end. The Wi -Fi is down. The
Wi -Fi is down, yes. Okay, so I got you this
shirt. You ready? Yeah. Oh, beautiful. Floppy
disk veteran. That is awesome. It's got a picture
of a floppy disk kind of in the eagle. The shape
of an eagle, yeah. Where'd you find that at?
What's the name of that? I always get the shirts
from the same place. It's probably where you
got the wifi is down. I mean, probably to be
honest with you. I sent like a bunch of these
around after I found them all. I don't know.
It's one of those funny t -shirt. Yeah, that's
all sites. Thank you, man. Absolutely. You earned
it. I'll have to wear it tomorrow. I mean, that'd
be a, Simple way of saying it. I will tell you
though, there's another really funny shirt site
that you need to go to at some point. Okay. It's
called tribe lacrosse .com. Okay. I haven't seen
that one. I mean, I, there's no reason that that
URL should be funny t -shirts. Okay. True. Yeah.
And some of them are lacrosse. So I guess that's
where they started. But it's, it seems like tribe
is their symbol or whatever. And they're all,
they all kind of look the same. But they say
things like everything hurts and favorite son.
I have the favorite son shirt. And allegedly.
Allegedly, yes. It's past my bedtime. I'm getting
it's past my bedtime for my wife. Yeah, that
would be for Michelle. For sure. Seven o 'clock
hits and she's ready for bed. I don't know. I
like the kind of fit, sort of fat. Oh, I'm trying
to. How do you explain the allegedly without
this turning into a not family episode? I don't
think this show is the term. If you've seen Letterkenny,
you automatically know. Then you know, yeah.
There is a thing to have to do with about an
ostrich. Yeah. And it just goes with allegedly.
You can fill in the blank from there. Yeah. I
mean. Hopefully you can. There's one that says
Wuhan Institute of Virology. I was like, ooh.
Oh, that'd be a fun one. Don't let the webcam
see you wearing that because the one that I'm
going to get for myself, though, when I get my
wife the one that says it's past my bedtime,
I'm going to buy this one for myself. And it
just says, I'm not for everyone. Oh, that's a
good one. Just saying. And I'm going to get my
parents the one that says I'm from the 1900s.
These are great. There's a bunch of them that
are really funny. It is weird to think that we
were born in a whole other century. Yeah, we
were. If you've ever looked for funny teas, I
think... Like Snorg Tease is always the one that
comes up for me first, but the one that I actually
go to the most is called Busted Tease. Okay,
yeah, I know that one. And I think that's where
I got the one I gave to you. They've got a lot
of... Star Wars ones that are really funny. I've
almost bought you like five different Star Wars
shirts. Yeah, the site that Michelle likes, and
I like it too, is 80stees .com. Oh, wow, okay.
80stees. It's actually 80, no, it is 80stees
.com. Why is the carpet all wet, Todd? I have
that. I don't know, Marco. I have the I don't
know, Marco. They have that exactly. I don't
know, Marco. And in fact, that's what I wore
for our... Wooden spoon survivor. Holiday picture.
They have that on the other one, too. I'm sure.
I was like, oh my gosh, that's hilarious. Yeah,
so obviously they have... Some of the wrestling
tees that they have are unbelievable. Stop staring
at my balls. It's Christmas ornaments. It is,
yeah. You can't see it. They've got a Nakatomi
Plaza one. Yes, they do. Nakatomi Christmas party.
Yes. Yes. I do want to get the one sometime.
Sometime in my life I want to get the one that
says, now I have a machine gun. Ho, ho, ho. Yeah.
Save the clock tower. I need to get that one
for my cousin. Why does anybody think this is
a good thing? You're scrolling the site and they
give you a full page ad that you have to cancel
out. No, I don't want to see that. Come on, guys.
He man that says, do you even lift, bro? Hey,
laser lips. Your mama was a snowblower. Wow.
If you know, you know, folks. Yeah. Well, I found
the wrestling. All the Macho Man. Yes. Randy
Savage. Macho Man. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh, what is this one? Dungeons and Dragons. Oh,
that's a classic scene. I want to tell him what
a cheap line. No good run. four -flushing, low
-life, snake -licking, dirt -eating, inbred,
overstuffed, ignorant, blood -sucking, dog -kissing,
brainless, blankless, hopeless, heartless, fat
-blank, bug -eyed, stiff -leg, spotty -lip, worm
-headed, sack -of -a -monkey -blank -he -is.
Yeah, my... Sister -in -law wants to memorize
that whole monologue. Where's the title? Oh,
it's a major award. It's a major award. Oh, Christmas
story. Get in loser. We're going to die of dysentery.
Yes. I showed you the one that I have. That's
a get in loser. We're going to try to afford
this river. Yes. Yeah. I mean, really great tease.
Negative ghostwriter. The pattern is full. And
the only thing technology about this whole episode
is that, yes, you have to go to the internet
to find these t -shirts. You do. You do. Just
saying. Just hits everything. We talk about everything,
folks. Oh, I love that one. It's from Top Gun.
Because I was inverted. Because I was inverted.
And he brings down his arms. Yes. Oh, I forgot
about that one, too. Also from Christmas Vacation.
When Snanna would Snanna. When Santa squeezes
his fat white blank down that chimney tonight,
he's going to find the jolliest bunch of blank
holes this side of the nuthouse. Oh, what a classic
movie. Oh, man. Oh, no. Nobody's leaving. You
can't leave. No. All I want to find for Christmas.
is the droids i'm looking for hap hap happiest
that's what it was i was like he he like he he
stays on a word for him yeah i was trying to
make it oh but that's not it also from christmas
vacation that there is an rv yeah right shiny
oh that reminds me uh snowmageddon Oh, wow. We,
Michelle doing what ladies do, matching PJs.
So I get the idea of we're stuck. We can't go
anywhere. Let's recreate the scene from Christmas
Vacation with the RV. And he's pumping stuff
into the sewer. And so we grab the hose off of
my shop vac and we're outside. And of course,
Tori goes, and she's got it. And Michelle starts
recording. She goes, the crapper's full. It's
like, yes. Oh, my gosh. Oh, it was a good parenting
moment. That's amazing. I mean, yeah, absolutely.
We have a funny story about that, but I'm not
going to embarrass my sister -in -law with it.
Just going to say. So I just ran across one on
the 80s tease. It's 007. Three, seven, three,
five, nine, six, three. Mike Tyson's punch out.
Jump straight to Mike Tyson. I was like, not
a lot of people know this. I know that one. That
is forever etched in my brain along with up,
up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B,
A, B, A. And then the next determines if you
played by yourself or as friends. Yeah. I would
say select start. Yeah. For two player. Yeah.
But I know lots of people who only played by
themselves and it's just start. No, you got to
do select start. It's always select start. Yeah.
Why were you playing video games by yourself?
Maybe they were highly introverted losers. Oh
man. Ooh. Dynamite or kid dynamite. That's what
the kid dynamite. Yes. Um, um, little Mac, little
Mac. Dad gum. Oh, that's throwback. Man. Well,
Save the neck for me. Save the neck for me, Clark.
Yeah. Oh, such fun stuff. Fun stuff. All right.
Well. That one's not safe for the show. Yeah,
no, don't. Whoopsies. Kiss my, kiss his. Womp
womp. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Merry
Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
What is this one? Oh, it's also Christmas Vacation,
of course. Can I refill your eggnog? Drive you
out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for
dead? And leave you for dead. Oh, that movie
is such a classic. We want you to get something
for yourself. Something. Real nice. Yes. Yes.
Oh, boy. That's a good movie. We're going to
have to watch that pretty soon. Yes. We haven't
shown the kids that one yet. Yeah. That one and
Die Hard. I can understand. You know Die Hard
is Laurie's like. Is it her go -to Christmas
movie? No. It's her. White Christmas is probably
her go -to because it's, you know. Yeah. Anyway.
It's got the sister song in it, and she's a twin,
so every other movie doesn't stand a chance.
But it's her gift wrapping movie. While she's
gift wrapping, she watches Die Hard. I think
it's probably because the kids can never be around.
Sure. Sure, not while that movie's going. And
the kids can never be around while Die Hard is
playing. But she, I mean, she dies laughing every
time. And I can't say a thing on this show about
it. But it is hilarious. I can respect that choice
for gift wrapping. Her favorite lines in that
movie are not the ones you expect from my very
Christian wife. Yes. Loves Jesus. Cusses a little.
It happens every now and then to all of us. Yippee
-ki -yay. Yep. Oh, the buckets? My friends. Have
you ever seen Brooklyn Nine -Nine? Just bits
and pieces. Okay, so there's the main character,
Jake Peralta. I say he's the main character.
He's the main character, right? Anyway, he really
likes Die Hard and so makes Die Hard references
all the time. or in different times and stuff
like that. And they, they actually do an episode
where, um, they're in a department store when,
um, it's, you know, getting, it's at Christmas
and like, I don't know, they're, they're getting
robbed or something. I don't know what's going
on. Anyway, I didn't pay that close attention,
but he makes some reference to it being diehard
and, uh, his friend who's, um, kind of clueless
most of the time. Like comes down out of the
vent at one point. Yippee -ki -yack, other buckets.
Yippee -ki -yack. And he's like, that's not.
He's like, yeah, I'm pretty sure it is. Oh, my
gosh. Close enough. He is pretty funny. Nice.
Yep. All right. Well, this beer was not as good
as I was hoping for, but we made it through.
It's better than the last show. Well, it's better
than the pumpkin spice last show. Well, that
was the last two beers of that show. Yeah, that
was rough. I have encouraged people to download
that and skip to course number three. Because
that is the chapter title of the first of two
really bad beers. That's hilarious. Yes. Just
go to that. Jump ahead. And I've had to tell
them, say, hey, hey, hey, you can't use that
legacy app on your phone. Nope. Go to newpodcastapps
.com. Have to. Not nude. Not nude. New. New.
N -E -W. If we're telling you to do it, it's
never nude. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is a
family friendly show. You can quote me. Yes.
Go get a real podcast app. Enjoy those chapters,
folks. Oh, man. There's a rad t -shirt on here.
Uh -oh. All right. Well, we'll see you later.
See you. Hope you're doing good. See you. See
you. Why aren't all podcasts this great?