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Hey, Chris. Hey, John. How are you? I'm good.

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I'm good. We're on this Thanksgiving week. We

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are, yes. We made it. So, you know. Yeah. Feeling

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a little, yeah, nervous about the holidays, I

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guess. Okay. I mean, you know, this is just a

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bunch of family stuff, and there's always going

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to be family stuff, so you got to get through

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those muddy waters as best you can. Yeah, we

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actually have my aunt and uncle here from Kentucky.

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They're actually on the way right now. They left

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this morning. Okay. So they'll be at my folks.

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I have my in -laws in town this week. There you

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go. My in -laws are out of town. There you go.

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They are in South Dakota. That's nice. Yeah.

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Michelle's mom decided that retirement wasn't

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totally for her. Okay. So she went back to being

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a road nurse. Okay. But now she's obviously able

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to be very picky at what she does. And so she

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found one that was for a few months in South

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Dakota. So like at Sturgis? They are an hour

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northeast of... Not Stonehenge. That's England.

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Nice. Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore. Stonehenge.

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Yeah. What have I been drinking already? I don't

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know, but we haven't even started yet. By the

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way, there's quite a few beers over there. We

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have a four -course meal. A four -course meal.

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I love it. Well, there's four options. I don't

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know if we'll get through them all. But this

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is a Thanksgiving. Well, we're going to call

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it loose. Loose. It started off, I had this great

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idea in my head. This is what you would do for

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a traditional roast bird. Okay. This would be

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a deep fried bird, you know, on and on and on.

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It's like, this is going to be great. And then

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you get there and you're like, well, they don't

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have that and they don't have that and they don't

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have that. Let's see if this will make a valid

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substitute. So we'll see how this is going to

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go. This is going to be great. So we're going

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to start off good though. Okay. Because we've

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got. One that I know we both like. Yes. Jeremiah

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Red. Yes. The Irish Red. Thank you to Garrett

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for having some in the fridge and saved me from

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having to pick an amber. Thanks. So this is what

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I would say is I think for a traditional roast

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bird, and I have a couple of funny stories that

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come to mind about a roast bird. Okay. But for

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a traditional roast bird, I would say go with

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an amber. Okay. Personal preference. Okay. Now,

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normally, I'm a dark beer snob, as you know.

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Yeah. And if it gets any lighter than this, I

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don't want it. Right. But there's... I did watch

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you drink some light beers. Not light beers.

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Yeah, and it tasted like dish soap, too. Yeah,

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they were terrible. So we've got one coming up.

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Uh -oh. But yeah, so this is the Jeremiah Red

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from BJ's. But real quick, to share the story,

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too, real quick. Yeah. This was before we ever

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moved to Texas. So this is probably 82, 83, 84,

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something in that range. Okay, you know, when

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I was born. Yeah, thank you. My dad was cooking

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the bird in the oven. And I was in the living

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room watching TV because it was early. No one

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was around, just the four of us. My brother was

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probably still asleep as young as he was. And

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he goes in to check the bird. And, of course,

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he's just kind of relaxed in his undies. No big

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deal. No one else is around. And he opens it

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up, grabs the towel, and pulls it out to kind

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of check the bird. And he stuffs the towel between

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his legs. Oh, no. And he didn't realize that

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the towel was in contact with a hot surface.

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So it catches fire. Oh. And my mom is standing

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there. She can't get the words out. And finally,

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about the time that he realized, oh, I have a

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problem, she got out, dawn. And he, obviously,

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he widened his legs, the towel fell to the ground.

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Gave himself some extra warming. Some singeing.

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Some singeing, yes. So I'll never forget that

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one. Oh, man. And then the other one that comes

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to mind, although technically this is Christmas,

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I get it, is the bird scene in A Christmas Story.

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Yeah. He's trying to get in there, steal some

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of it, and she's, get out. And then the dogs

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get in. And then the dogs, and then you get that

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amazing scene with the duck. Yeah. At the Chinese

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restaurant. It's smiling at me. Or at us. Or

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whatever. Oh! It's so good. So, all right. So,

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yeah. So my, I recommend, now I get, I know everybody

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has their own, but for a traditional bird, an

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amber. Jeremiah is a good one. Jeremiah Red.

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Yeah. It's very echoey in this room. It is. Cheers.

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Yeah. Nope. Just as good as I remember it. Yep.

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And it's amazing. Like, it is such a, like, you

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can't see when you're drinking out of a can.

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There's no way to hide it. No. We're eating pretzels,

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so it's a five -course meal. Sure. Sure. Why

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not? So, amuse -bouche. They're traditional twists.

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Oh, nice. We found some. They finally have some.

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Some twists. Yeah. Uh, you can't, I mean, even

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though you can't see, uh, the, the red in the,

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in the can, um, I just, it's, it's a taste thing.

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Like it, it definitely has that. I don't know.

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I always think apple it's, it's a very strange,

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um, Laura used to make fun of me all the time

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because I would drink, um, anytime I would drink

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wine, the only flavor that I got from wine when

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I first started drinking it was butter. Okay.

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I was like, I mean, you know, every once in a

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while I'd be like, oh, there's some cherry in

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there or some, you know, it'd be kind of smoky

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or kind of dry. I mean, whatever the thing was,

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but it was like the predominant taste that would

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come across to me was butter. Butter. I can't

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say, not that I've had a lot of wine, but I can't

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say I've ever tasted butter in wine. I'm just

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saying it was probably something wrong with me.

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Also might explain why I like wine. Maybe. Because

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I like butter. If you've connected wine to butter,

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I mean, that's a win. Doesn't seem like you could

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go wrong there. Uh -uh. We're going to be talking

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beers this whole time because we're going to

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have to get through these. That's a lot of beer.

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Challenge accepted. Challenge accepted. Well,

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I do want to. So unless you have something else

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about the beer, I'd like to kick off the first

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topic of discussion. Give it to me. All right.

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Here you go, Apple lovers. Oh, no. The Apple

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Sock. Okay. So we didn't really talk about what

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we're talking about. We didn't talk about on

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the show what we're talking about today. It's

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a potluck. It is. There's going to be a lot of

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different things. But right after the last show?

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Yeah. I mean, it was not long after the last

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show. I get a text message from... Chris that

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has a video on it of this guy. And I honestly,

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like there, there was a good while there where

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I thought this was like, Oh, this was a video

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that was made a while back for like a, uh, Apple

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first or Apple first and April 1st, April fool's

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joke. Um, there's no way that this, like all

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I could think is there's no way this is real.

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There's no way this is real. There's no way this

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is real. Oh no, it's real. It's real baby. And

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they have two sizes. Mm -hmm. So there's, we're

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joking, Apple Sock. It's the iPhone Pocket. By,

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and I'm going to butcher the name, it's the Miyake.

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Yeah, sure. That's what it says. Yeah, I don't

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care. Like, what in the world? One of my favorite

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things is when you switch to the long. Yeah.

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Oh, I'm not going to be able to think of the

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character name. Oh. borat i think yeah do you

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remember the scene with him in the crazy yes

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bathing suit yeah that's what this makes me think

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of well yeah i mean that that's exactly what

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that should make you think of especially since

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like there it's this okay so it's a sock that

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they have cut um and i mean there's no other

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way to put it um that they've cut and then you

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put you're supposed to put your iphone in it

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so it's an iphone pocket And they've got a short

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one and a long one. Just put your beer in there.

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And yeah, I think you'd probably be better served

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by putting your beer in there. But like they,

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it's what I can't get over in like the advertisements

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for this and everything is to make sure that

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you can see that there's an iPhone in there.

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They don't have it like down in the sock. I mean,

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pocket all the way. And so it just looks like

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it's, I don't know. That's terrible. You move

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fast. It's coming out. Yeah. I, I don't like

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it. This is a, this is an awful product. I don't,

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I mean, sure. If you want one of these more power

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to you, but I, I can't like, I can't look at

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you straight. It's taking everything I have to

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keep the show family friendly. There's so many

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jokes. What the other part of this that I'm just

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having the hardest time with is. If you go to

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Apple's website and you're looking at this thing,

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they're all sold out. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well,

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it makes me wonder how many they actually had

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available, to be honest. Well, sure. Yeah. No,

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this could be a very, very small run. But if

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you're like really bummed that you couldn't find

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one, if you just go to like Walmart and get some

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crew socks. Yep. And then cut those bad boys

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right. You got, I mean, this is, you could do

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two and just tie two socks together and then

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like, you know, carry your wife's for her. I

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don't, I don't get it. I don't understand. And

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the, like, just the worst, like the, the insult

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to injury, like just, I can't believe that this

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is real is the short one of these one. costs

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$150. Yes, it does. What? Well, the long is $229.

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Yeah. For a tube sock. I don't... Well... What?

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Maybe you could say the long is more like half

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a pantyhose. They cut one leg off. No, I get

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what you're saying. I just can't deal with...

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What this got us thinking about in general is

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just the out -of -touch tech. Number one, we're

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going to finagle a sock. What? And then we're

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going to charge you $229 for it. Sorry. I envision

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a bunch of guys at Apple sitting around getting

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drunk. Well, evidently, it's not the guys at

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Apple. It's the people at Issey Miyake. Well,

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but what I could see is they're having a good

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time. Hey, I wonder if we could sell them this.

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I wonder if we can sell them that. And the one

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guy speaks up and says, hold my beer. I have

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an idea. I have an idea. And I guarantee you.

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I saw this guy who put a beer in a sock. What

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if we did that with the phone? Yes. Yes. And

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you start, you know, like do all this and charge

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him like 30 bucks. And he's like, no, no, no,

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no, no, no. There's this artist over here. Yes.

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He's got a name. Nobody knows it, but he's got

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a name. Apparently we'll put his name on it.

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We'll have him design it. And we're going to

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charge them a ton. Yikes. And apparently people

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said, yeah, please let me have it. No big deal.

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Somehow this is even a better troll by Apple

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than the cost of the aluminum stand for their

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monitor. I don't know that there's much. But

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I will tell you the one that got me before the

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aluminum stand was those freaking wheels for

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the micro. Oh, yes, the wheels. That was a good

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one. I was like, what? What are we doing? Absolutely

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not. It's one area where I absolutely love watching

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what Apple does. Because I know people are going

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to jump all over it, regardless of how crazy

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it is. I don't know. I have bought a lot of Apple

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products. I cannot bring myself to buy a sock.

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Or a $1 ,000 stand. Yep. I mean, this is insane.

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So what are some other pieces of gear that you

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have, or not gear, but like products, hopefully

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from tech people, but could be anything, that

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have caused you consternation? Apple products

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in general. Okay, I get that. Especially when

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it comes to printers. In fact, we have that today.

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Not working? Yeah, just issues, I guess, with

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the bonder drivers. And it just doesn't. It works,

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and then one day it doesn't. Yeah, that's why

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I just straight. And then you remove it and you

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add it back. You know, IP address those bad boys

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in. I don't really mess with the bonder. Yeah.

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I know you can share things, but you're not really

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good at it. But that's what a lot of people,

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I feel like, at Pine Cove, that's what they want.

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They want to simply just go, they want to see

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it, they want to be able to click on it and go,

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thank you. Which we used to be able to do when

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we had Active Directory, but we don't have that

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anymore, so you have to fall back on the Bunger.

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I've been pressing the JumpCloud people, though,

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to... basically reproduce the print server because

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they're like, hey, you're encouraging all these

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people to drop Active Directory. Yeah. And I

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don't have a print server anymore. Kind of. Help

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a brother out. Yeah. There needs to be a solution

00:16:01.539 --> 00:16:10.039
for this. I had some gripes about AI in general.

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And I had heard a couple of new ones, but it

00:16:14.070 --> 00:16:17.769
looks like since the last show, they've resolved

00:16:17.769 --> 00:16:21.549
some of the issues. So it kind of stealing my

00:16:21.549 --> 00:16:24.450
thunder here. Listen, guys, you got to at least

00:16:24.450 --> 00:16:27.230
wait until after the show to fix it. Yeah, let

00:16:27.230 --> 00:16:29.889
me let me talk trash and then you can do it.

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So the two that were. What brought to my attention

00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:49.399
was it couldn't find a, or it could not generate

00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:53.120
an image of a left -handed person writing. Really?

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Yes, but I would say Gemini has fixed it. It

00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:02.139
just drew a right -handed person and then flipped

00:17:02.139 --> 00:17:03.980
the image? Well, you just couldn't do it, period.

00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:05.519
It would just give you a right -handed person.

00:17:05.660 --> 00:17:07.720
No, that's what I'm saying. That's what they've

00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:09.869
figured out now. Well, that may be what they

00:17:09.869 --> 00:17:11.250
did. If somebody asked for something left -handed,

00:17:11.329 --> 00:17:13.009
just draw it right -handed and then flip it over.

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And then flip it. That's possible. And then the

00:17:15.549 --> 00:17:18.509
other was that it had trouble with showing you

00:17:18.509 --> 00:17:23.470
a clock with hands at anything that wasn't 10

00:17:23.470 --> 00:17:32.329
and 2. What? Yeah. Like there's no 3 o 'clock?

00:17:32.910 --> 00:17:35.750
Well, just like it didn't know how to put the

00:17:35.750 --> 00:17:43.839
hands in other places. Wow. So, but in two weeks

00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:46.559
time, they've apparently, or a week and a half

00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:50.079
time, they fixed it. So that's kind of, that's

00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:56.279
kind of a bummer. That's a fail. Less worried

00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:00.480
about them taking over right now. Yeah. If they're

00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.299
having to fix little things like this, AI is

00:18:03.299 --> 00:18:07.480
not taking over anytime soon. It's like, it doesn't

00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:09.599
matter what time it is. I'm still taking over.

00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:16.799
You will learn that 10 after 10 is all the time.

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All the time. You know, or 150. Sure. That works

00:18:24.180 --> 00:18:28.779
too. Could be the other way. That's pretty funny.

00:18:36.099 --> 00:18:39.140
Good pretzels, man. Good pretzels, good beer.

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Just needing the good pretzels. I mean, it is

00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:43.940
nice when you find what you're looking for because

00:18:43.940 --> 00:18:46.059
it doesn't seem like twisted pretzels should

00:18:46.059 --> 00:18:48.460
be that hard to find. No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:18:51.579 --> 00:18:55.839
You never know. But I mean, I could go on for

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days about complaining about AI. Well, okay.

00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:06.109
I'll give you a little breather. We talked about

00:19:06.109 --> 00:19:09.009
this a little bit, but I have run into, again,

00:19:09.109 --> 00:19:18.470
this idea of AV switches. Because we talked about

00:19:18.470 --> 00:19:20.970
how they put in AV switches. They told me that

00:19:20.970 --> 00:19:23.569
they didn't want to use the switches that I bought

00:19:23.569 --> 00:19:32.130
for the Dante network. And I was like, well,

00:19:32.210 --> 00:19:37.230
I don't have... any experience with those i don't

00:19:37.230 --> 00:19:39.450
like i don't i don't know much about them i don't

00:19:39.450 --> 00:19:42.470
know what i'm like getting into with that i i

00:19:42.470 --> 00:19:45.509
know this network and i know like if you've just

00:19:45.509 --> 00:19:49.569
got two switches put together and these are evidently

00:19:49.569 --> 00:19:52.990
like you know they're av switches so they're

00:19:52.990 --> 00:19:56.910
pre -configured they're also evidently they are

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a um we did a little research because i ran into

00:20:01.380 --> 00:20:03.799
a problem that i was like what why is that happening

00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:10.839
but they're like dhcp servers as well but i'm

00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:13.759
not sure which one is and i can't get into them

00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:16.839
to like see and that was one of the things is

00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:19.799
i was like well i'm if something goes wrong i'd

00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:23.220
like to you know get in there and and whatever

00:20:23.220 --> 00:20:25.339
and the guy was like no it just works i'm like

00:20:25.339 --> 00:20:29.549
i don't i don't believe you but There were a

00:20:29.549 --> 00:20:31.789
lot of things going on at that moment, so I didn't

00:20:31.789 --> 00:20:35.549
really get into it. But we have now had something

00:20:35.549 --> 00:20:38.650
that worked and now is not working, and it seems

00:20:38.650 --> 00:20:41.930
to be Dante -related. And so I spent a lot of

00:20:41.930 --> 00:20:46.910
time trying to figure out all of that stuff last

00:20:46.910 --> 00:20:54.940
week. And everything that I tried just... almost

00:20:54.940 --> 00:20:58.599
destroyed the entire setup um so like it was

00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:01.460
a very strange like this can't be plugged into

00:21:01.460 --> 00:21:04.819
that that can't be plugged into this so now i

00:21:04.819 --> 00:21:08.779
have i have a vlan set up and on our system and

00:21:08.779 --> 00:21:11.839
one of one of these days i'm going to move everything

00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:16.980
onto ports with that vlan and get it to where

00:21:16.980 --> 00:21:20.039
i can see what's happening and i understand how

00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:24.640
the dhcp is being drawn or if we use static ips

00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:27.539
which is the way it's set right now like i had

00:21:27.539 --> 00:21:31.619
to take off the dhcp because i couldn't i couldn't

00:21:31.619 --> 00:21:35.579
see anything sure um there i mean some of some

00:21:35.579 --> 00:21:39.279
of the not like there's there's the deal we've

00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:42.859
got alan and heath d live mix rack and a surface

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and those i can see the ip addresses for i can

00:21:48.500 --> 00:21:54.490
see the subnet mask i can see the gateway, like

00:21:54.490 --> 00:21:57.609
all of that is, is visible, but I can't see that

00:21:57.609 --> 00:21:59.869
on anything else. Some of these other devices

00:21:59.869 --> 00:22:02.170
that are plugged into the same network. So I

00:22:02.170 --> 00:22:05.089
don't know if they're taking the same, like if

00:22:05.089 --> 00:22:08.490
there's any kind of discrepancy there, if they're

00:22:08.490 --> 00:22:10.829
trying to get their DHCP from somewhere else

00:22:10.829 --> 00:22:14.089
or if they're static or any of that, but they're

00:22:14.089 --> 00:22:16.990
not seeing each other. And I can't like convince

00:22:16.990 --> 00:22:24.539
a. We had a computer that was recording 64 channels

00:22:24.539 --> 00:22:29.359
off of the board. And then we were then able

00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:33.099
to play it back through the board and do sound

00:22:33.099 --> 00:22:38.680
check. And we're using the Allen and Heath partnered

00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:45.019
software for it. Like we're using the Allen and

00:22:45.019 --> 00:22:50.069
Heath partnered, not just their MIDI. driver

00:22:50.069 --> 00:22:53.990
and all that stuff, but the, the Harrison live

00:22:53.990 --> 00:22:56.970
tracks or whatever, that's supposed to work with

00:22:56.970 --> 00:22:59.190
Alan and Heath really well and bring it back

00:22:59.190 --> 00:23:02.789
in. And we're using the Dante virtual sound card

00:23:02.789 --> 00:23:07.009
and the, like it, where it was, it was just,

00:23:07.049 --> 00:23:10.490
they would see each other and I could say like,

00:23:10.569 --> 00:23:12.309
Hey, you're pulling that from this card, which

00:23:12.309 --> 00:23:15.230
is plugged into the computer over ethernet and

00:23:15.230 --> 00:23:18.710
all of that. Like all of a sudden it stopped.

00:23:19.619 --> 00:23:24.119
sending or receiving anything and then i could

00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:29.220
get it to receive eight channels but it wouldn't

00:23:29.220 --> 00:23:36.119
uh it wouldn't send anything back and then it

00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:39.039
stopped receiving the eight channels and then

00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:45.940
um when i tried to uh then send stuff back it

00:23:45.940 --> 00:23:48.940
was like it would it could get the midi like

00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:52.880
It says that it's connected over MIDI, but it

00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:59.619
can't see anything. And the surface is kind of

00:23:59.619 --> 00:24:01.859
in the same boat. So it's definitely one of those

00:24:01.859 --> 00:24:09.079
like this feels like something. Nobody touched

00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:11.160
it. And then all of a sudden it doesn't work.

00:24:11.460 --> 00:24:15.500
Well, you never want two DHCP servers on a VLAN

00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:18.569
because you could have a. Well, that's what I'm

00:24:18.569 --> 00:24:21.230
like. One of them has to be turned off, right?

00:24:21.269 --> 00:24:23.789
Yeah. But I don't know if the people did that.

00:24:24.670 --> 00:24:29.089
And I don't know like what the IP address is

00:24:29.089 --> 00:24:32.690
for either of these machines. Correct. So it's

00:24:32.690 --> 00:24:39.150
just like, what? Yeah. I, you are more forgiving

00:24:39.150 --> 00:24:43.349
than me. As soon as I had a problem, those switches

00:24:43.349 --> 00:24:44.690
would have been ripped out and they'd been in

00:24:44.690 --> 00:24:48.190
the trash. Yeah. And I would have, put stuff

00:24:48.190 --> 00:24:50.910
on my, on my switches. Well, this was the hard

00:24:50.910 --> 00:24:54.569
part is that like, I don't, I, the reason I said

00:24:54.569 --> 00:24:59.730
we should stay where we were, um, where we were,

00:24:59.769 --> 00:25:09.509
you know, was that I, um, I, I knew how to make

00:25:09.509 --> 00:25:15.990
that work and I could have added Dante into that.

00:25:16.619 --> 00:25:19.160
and felt comfortable because I knew how everything

00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:21.799
was working. I knew what I was expecting to see.

00:25:21.900 --> 00:25:24.900
I knew that there was other parts of it, but

00:25:24.900 --> 00:25:29.680
you know, you change out everything and then

00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:33.420
add a piece that we don't have a lot of, uh,

00:25:33.740 --> 00:25:38.400
whatever you call it, um, experience with like

00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:43.650
it, it, it just, it made everything really. I

00:25:43.650 --> 00:25:47.150
didn't have confidence in what I was saying to

00:25:47.150 --> 00:25:51.589
fix and it became not my responsibility anymore

00:25:51.589 --> 00:25:54.009
too, which was the other part of this is like

00:25:54.009 --> 00:25:57.230
I, now there's a problem and it's not my responsibility

00:25:57.230 --> 00:26:02.549
to fix it, but I don't handle that really well.

00:26:02.650 --> 00:26:08.390
I don't want it to fail. Correct. I feel responsible

00:26:08.390 --> 00:26:11.309
even though I'm not responsible. And so the,

00:26:12.329 --> 00:26:14.710
The idea that there was this thing that I set

00:26:14.710 --> 00:26:17.430
up for them to use and it was working and now

00:26:17.430 --> 00:26:19.789
it doesn't work is like, I mean, that's eating

00:26:19.789 --> 00:26:23.890
at the back of my brain every day. Yeah. And

00:26:23.890 --> 00:26:26.970
you can't take away your visibility and expect

00:26:26.970 --> 00:26:29.549
to be able to effectively troubleshoot. If you're

00:26:29.549 --> 00:26:32.170
blind, you, you're not going to fix anything.

00:26:32.410 --> 00:26:35.849
No. You've got to have visibility in order to

00:26:35.849 --> 00:26:39.410
do just basic troubleshooting. So yeah, as soon

00:26:39.410 --> 00:26:40.970
as it would have gone sideways, I would have

00:26:40.970 --> 00:26:44.119
ripped the, That so -called AV equipment out.

00:26:44.700 --> 00:26:47.079
I would have put it on my equipment that I know

00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:51.000
works. And I would have just left it at that.

00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:55.440
And that's like we talked about. Again, this

00:26:55.440 --> 00:27:01.500
is the nature of a marketing team getting involved

00:27:01.500 --> 00:27:10.950
with technology gear. there's this thing that

00:27:10.950 --> 00:27:16.029
says oh um no we pre -configured it it's like

00:27:16.029 --> 00:27:19.130
hey more power to you if you want to sell something

00:27:19.130 --> 00:27:22.670
as pre -configured that's fine but when it gets

00:27:22.670 --> 00:27:26.769
like when it gets when it starts getting into

00:27:26.769 --> 00:27:28.970
the vernacular of the people who are installing

00:27:28.970 --> 00:27:33.950
it that this is the only thing that works then

00:27:33.950 --> 00:27:36.809
then i've got questions because it's like no

00:27:36.809 --> 00:27:40.309
we're talking about settings right If there's

00:27:40.309 --> 00:27:50.970
some sort of capability that this gear has that

00:27:50.970 --> 00:27:53.150
that gear doesn't, then I need to know what that

00:27:53.150 --> 00:27:56.390
is. I want to know what is this capable of that

00:27:56.390 --> 00:27:58.690
that's not capable of because that seems like

00:27:58.690 --> 00:28:05.309
something I would be interested in using in regular

00:28:05.309 --> 00:28:08.690
network. stuff but if if you're saying that this

00:28:08.690 --> 00:28:10.970
is just pre -configured then tell me what the

00:28:10.970 --> 00:28:13.309
configuration is like what are the pieces that

00:28:13.309 --> 00:28:16.109
you're worried about and sure enough you go on

00:28:16.109 --> 00:28:24.390
alan and heath's um dante like sheet or whatever

00:28:24.390 --> 00:28:28.289
and you can see like these are the you know these

00:28:28.289 --> 00:28:31.130
are things that you need to be worried about

00:28:31.130 --> 00:28:36.509
if you've got any kind of um environmental you

00:28:36.509 --> 00:28:39.089
know, green network stuff, you probably need

00:28:39.089 --> 00:28:42.309
to turn that off. If you, if you've got, you

00:28:42.309 --> 00:28:44.930
know, so I think on ubiquity, it's called like

00:28:44.930 --> 00:28:49.849
flow. They don't call it environmental. I don't

00:28:49.849 --> 00:28:52.410
think they call it green, but like flow control

00:28:52.410 --> 00:28:55.089
or something like that. And I was like, no, I

00:28:55.089 --> 00:28:58.089
don't want that on this VLAN. I don't want that.

00:28:58.230 --> 00:29:01.809
I want, I want it to be as unhindered as possible.

00:29:02.829 --> 00:29:06.630
You know, you got to make sure that you're, spanning

00:29:06.630 --> 00:29:15.690
tree stuff is if it's on and it's working correctly

00:29:15.690 --> 00:29:20.690
inside of the Dante network, you may not want

00:29:20.690 --> 00:29:24.170
it on other things, but it's one of the things

00:29:24.170 --> 00:29:26.930
that you need to be looking at. I think the green

00:29:26.930 --> 00:29:29.130
stuff was called like EEE or something like that.

00:29:30.190 --> 00:29:32.809
Yeah, I think that has to do with powering down

00:29:32.809 --> 00:29:36.279
ports that aren't. Effectively transmitting.

00:29:36.940 --> 00:29:39.799
Yeah. And then you can bring them back later.

00:29:42.180 --> 00:29:44.180
And that obviously plays in the spanning tree.

00:29:44.980 --> 00:29:47.559
Different spanning trees recover faster than

00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:51.500
others. Yeah. And I would assume that there's

00:29:51.500 --> 00:29:56.819
something there for jumbo frames in there. Try

00:29:56.819 --> 00:29:58.440
to remember what else we, because we did some

00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:00.519
of that. There's a lot of potential for, with

00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:02.619
Dante networks, there's a lot of potential for

00:30:02.619 --> 00:30:07.720
looping. So, you know, I've got it on our Dante

00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.839
network, making sure that there's no, like that

00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:13.400
there's storm protection, that it's not all of

00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:17.859
a sudden going to get hit by some manic loop.

00:30:18.740 --> 00:30:20.759
And that's where spanning tree can kind of help.

00:30:20.900 --> 00:30:24.369
Yeah, that's true. For those. Yeah. So again,

00:30:24.549 --> 00:30:26.869
like not, it's not that you want to turn spanning

00:30:26.869 --> 00:30:28.950
tree off. You just need to know what it is and

00:30:28.950 --> 00:30:31.509
what it's doing. Correct. And then be able to

00:30:31.509 --> 00:30:35.690
understand, Oh, if this is turning off and on

00:30:35.690 --> 00:30:39.950
a lot or sending and then not sending or whatever

00:30:39.950 --> 00:30:42.890
the thing is like, this may be a problem. Yep.

00:30:43.269 --> 00:30:47.029
Um, but I mean, there's just, there's a lot of

00:30:47.029 --> 00:30:48.650
things like that that it's like, just tell me

00:30:48.650 --> 00:30:51.809
what it is. Tell me, tell me because I don't,

00:30:51.809 --> 00:30:56.059
I don't like the, oh this magical box will fix

00:30:56.059 --> 00:30:59.019
your network like i don't i don't like that no

00:30:59.019 --> 00:31:01.660
and that kind of gear is really made for av guys

00:31:01.660 --> 00:31:04.660
who just don't know networking and that's fine

00:31:04.660 --> 00:31:08.599
it is but you talk to a guy like that and it

00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.460
sounds like you don't know what you're talking

00:31:11.460 --> 00:31:13.859
about or not sounds like you don't know what

00:31:13.859 --> 00:31:17.059
you're talking about they they know what they

00:31:17.059 --> 00:31:24.170
know is different than what you know. And that

00:31:24.170 --> 00:31:27.089
I'm not the kind of person that automatically

00:31:27.089 --> 00:31:30.930
assumes, well, that's an idiot. I'm the kind

00:31:30.930 --> 00:31:34.569
of person that goes, what did I miss? I feel

00:31:34.569 --> 00:31:38.089
like an idiot. Am I, am I doing this right? I

00:31:38.089 --> 00:31:39.849
don't, I don't, I don't feel like I'm doing this

00:31:39.849 --> 00:31:42.930
right, but you get down into the, I mean, that's,

00:31:42.930 --> 00:31:45.589
that's where I will tell you being a problem

00:31:45.589 --> 00:31:51.789
solver is One of the most important skills I

00:31:51.789 --> 00:31:57.009
feel like any adult can have. Yeah. Being able

00:31:57.009 --> 00:32:01.450
to take something complex down to smaller pieces

00:32:01.450 --> 00:32:05.730
and understand how those pieces work together

00:32:05.730 --> 00:32:09.250
and then be able to say like this part of that

00:32:09.250 --> 00:32:13.779
is not working. So that is related to this. Or

00:32:13.779 --> 00:32:16.240
that's because of this. Or if I take this part

00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:18.299
out and this doesn't work, but if I leave this

00:32:18.299 --> 00:32:23.720
part in, it still does. Any of that is like,

00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:28.960
it's just, I don't know. It's all the difference

00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:32.059
in the world in my mind when it comes to whether

00:32:32.059 --> 00:32:38.599
or not somebody is useful. I agree. But that

00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:40.559
means that there's a lot of times where you're

00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.400
sitting there. That doesn't fit into my understanding

00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:50.640
of how all of this works together. Anyway, that

00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.140
ticked me off pretty good. I bet it did. It upset

00:32:54.140 --> 00:33:00.839
me too. My AV pro gear. You ready for course

00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:07.440
number two? Yeah. Okay, so wasn't 100 % sure

00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:14.960
what to pick here. But the consensus online was

00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:20.240
the best beer for a deep fried turkey is an IPA.

00:33:21.180 --> 00:33:23.619
I couldn't bring myself to do it. How dare you?

00:33:23.740 --> 00:33:25.859
I could not bring myself to do it. Listen, that's

00:33:25.859 --> 00:33:31.539
just because deep fried turkey is popular right

00:33:31.539 --> 00:33:34.440
now and so is IPA. There is nothing about deep

00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:38.819
fried turkey that says IPA. What I did... How

00:33:38.819 --> 00:33:43.299
dare you? I know. I chose... Oh, a blonde. A

00:33:43.299 --> 00:33:50.079
blonde instead. Usually, you can't go wrong if

00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:53.940
you like this kind of beer. Yeah. Which I don't.

00:33:54.859 --> 00:33:58.180
Brick Street, though, East Texas Brewery here

00:33:58.180 --> 00:34:02.640
in Tyler has a Brick Street blonde. And it's,

00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:07.940
I mean, it's, again, if you're... mowing your

00:34:07.940 --> 00:34:11.940
yard and you want some water yeah you might as

00:34:11.940 --> 00:34:16.980
well yeah yeah so but i figured that this would

00:34:16.980 --> 00:34:21.619
pair pretty good with a deep fried turkey i always

00:34:21.619 --> 00:34:24.880
like i felt i mean it is definitely a deep fried

00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:28.760
turkey but i feel like when people say deep fried

00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.739
turkey what they're thinking that people that

00:34:31.739 --> 00:34:37.090
haven't had it is that this turkey has been battered

00:34:37.090 --> 00:34:40.570
and fried. Oh, no, no, no. This is not like KFC

00:34:40.570 --> 00:34:45.750
turkey. No. Like a deep fried turkey has a real

00:34:45.750 --> 00:34:50.570
crisp skin on it, but it locks a lot of that

00:34:50.570 --> 00:34:53.510
moisture into it. Yeah. Especially if you've

00:34:53.510 --> 00:34:58.349
done your... Injection? Injections well. Yeah.

00:34:58.650 --> 00:35:01.489
But I feel like deep frying makes things feel

00:35:01.489 --> 00:35:06.900
heavier. So that's why I went with a blonde.

00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.559
I get that. And I can understand why somebody

00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:15.139
who would say that an IPA goes well with it.

00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:20.059
I mean, I'm going to make a prediction here.

00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:24.619
Okay. I'm going to drink this blonde and say,

00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:29.780
what if I just have another Jeremiah red with

00:35:29.780 --> 00:35:32.909
the deep fried turkey? You could do that. You

00:35:32.909 --> 00:35:35.429
could. You don't have to follow these recommendations.

00:35:36.409 --> 00:35:39.170
Yep. Cheers. This is good, though. It's going

00:35:39.170 --> 00:35:43.730
to be great. I'm excited about this opportunity

00:35:43.730 --> 00:35:49.710
to drink a beer. Taking one for the team. Oh,

00:35:49.789 --> 00:35:54.670
my gosh. I can't get around it. That used to

00:35:54.670 --> 00:35:57.230
be what I drank, but I just can't. Dish soap.

00:35:57.230 --> 00:36:03.099
Dish soap all the way. If they would have had

00:36:03.099 --> 00:36:05.659
it, what I actually would have chosen for this,

00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:09.420
just for an old, old throwback, is a Natty Light.

00:36:09.659 --> 00:36:12.679
Oh, my gosh. But they didn't have it. At least

00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:14.699
not individually. Yeah, you were looking at the

00:36:14.699 --> 00:36:17.440
normal size cans. They only serve Natty Lights

00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:22.719
in like the 40s now. Oh, my gosh. Oh, I cut my

00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.460
teeth on Natty. It has a special place in my

00:36:26.460 --> 00:36:30.739
heart. Always will. Put that thing in a keg.

00:36:31.230 --> 00:36:34.949
Cheap beer. Sink it in a trash can full of ice.

00:36:37.030 --> 00:36:40.110
It's so good. I mean, if it is really, really

00:36:40.110 --> 00:36:46.610
cold, you can't taste it. I mean, you get it

00:36:46.610 --> 00:36:48.369
just to the point where it's about to have ice

00:36:48.369 --> 00:36:50.849
chips in it. Yeah, there you go. It is so good.

00:36:51.250 --> 00:36:54.389
You know what else is good like that? What's

00:36:54.389 --> 00:36:59.090
that? Dr. Pepper. Yes. Yes. I have created that

00:36:59.090 --> 00:37:02.570
on accident. Okay. Left it in the freezer, forgot

00:37:02.570 --> 00:37:04.829
about it. Yeah. And then had that like, oh my

00:37:04.829 --> 00:37:06.489
gosh, it's going to explode. I got to get it

00:37:06.489 --> 00:37:10.150
now. And it hadn't exploded. And then you let

00:37:10.150 --> 00:37:11.849
it sit for a few minutes and you crack it open.

00:37:11.889 --> 00:37:14.849
And that Dr. Pepper ice is just good. We used

00:37:14.849 --> 00:37:17.190
to do that at my grandmother's house where we'd

00:37:17.190 --> 00:37:21.090
put them in the freezer. But you had to set a

00:37:21.090 --> 00:37:26.570
timer because it, no. Yeah. You don't want the

00:37:26.570 --> 00:37:30.750
water to expand in that can. Not good. You didn't

00:37:30.750 --> 00:37:33.090
want to be in charge of cleaning out Grant's

00:37:33.090 --> 00:37:41.389
freezer. Not good. Oh, my computer must be installing

00:37:41.389 --> 00:37:45.050
updates. Glad it's not anything. Not during the

00:37:45.050 --> 00:37:49.489
show, Chris. Well, it's Microsoft. Uh -huh. It

00:37:49.489 --> 00:37:51.110
said, hey, you're not using your computer so

00:37:51.110 --> 00:37:53.690
I can run updates right now. Mm -hmm. Oh, boy,

00:37:53.809 --> 00:37:59.150
is it ever. Wow. Ooh. It wants to install the

00:37:59.150 --> 00:38:04.289
big 25H2. Are you going to tell me what that

00:38:04.289 --> 00:38:07.170
is? That's the latest release of Windows 11.

00:38:07.469 --> 00:38:11.889
Oh. 25 for the year. Mm -hmm. H2 for the second

00:38:11.889 --> 00:38:14.190
half of the year, as I call it. Because typically

00:38:14.190 --> 00:38:15.809
when they release it in the first half of the

00:38:15.809 --> 00:38:19.170
year, it's H1. And when they release it in the

00:38:19.170 --> 00:38:21.650
second half of the year, it's H2. That's really...

00:38:21.650 --> 00:38:27.779
So 25H2 for our British friends out there. Or

00:38:27.779 --> 00:38:31.019
Australian. Or Australian, that's true. Oh, my

00:38:31.019 --> 00:38:35.420
gosh. Oh, I got to power through this one. Wow.

00:38:36.739 --> 00:38:39.820
That's just, it's a lot of dish soap. Yeah, it

00:38:39.820 --> 00:38:42.739
is. In that can. Sorry, East Texas Brewery, not

00:38:42.739 --> 00:38:45.199
trying to talk bad about you. No. It's just these

00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.539
types of beers in general. Let's say something

00:38:47.539 --> 00:38:50.699
good about East Texas Brewery. That Nitro. The

00:38:50.699 --> 00:38:54.079
Dunkle. Oh, yeah, the Dunkle. The Nitro. No,

00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.940
it's the. Is it the McGinnis? The McGinnis Nitro.

00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.159
Oh, it is so good. That thing is good. But they

00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.559
do have the Dunkle. Yeah, they do. And the Dunkle

00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:06.900
is good. Oh, but yeah, the McGinnis Nitro. That's

00:39:06.900 --> 00:39:09.940
a different level. Oh, it's so good. Just saying.

00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.739
That would be a great dessert beer. You got to

00:39:12.739 --> 00:39:16.900
maybe not eating while you're drinking this,

00:39:17.019 --> 00:39:22.780
but like, man. You might want to eat. You want

00:39:22.780 --> 00:39:25.739
to eat before? Yeah, that's true. You would want

00:39:25.739 --> 00:39:28.460
to load up a little bit, but don't like, don't

00:39:28.460 --> 00:39:32.179
be trying to like eat a hamburger and drink this

00:39:32.179 --> 00:39:33.619
beer. I don't think that's going to go well.

00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:38.480
I did that. Oh, I can't imagine. That's, that's

00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.840
a lot of bread. Yeah. Well, I guess that was

00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.960
the, the night that we went to watch you play

00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:50.300
Garrett and I couldn't have a beer yet, but we,

00:39:50.300 --> 00:39:53.699
I had, um, Oh, what did I get that night? We

00:39:53.699 --> 00:39:58.119
had their mac and cheese. Unbelievable mac and

00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:00.679
cheese. So good. We split that. And then I think

00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:02.079
we each had a burger. I don't remember which

00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.800
one. Oh, yeah. And then I had the Nitro McGuinness.

00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:10.559
Oh, it was so good. So, so good. That's the last

00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.739
place that I have left in town to take Garrett

00:40:13.739 --> 00:40:18.789
to. We went to True Vine. You were there for

00:40:18.789 --> 00:40:21.510
his actual 21st birthday. That was huge to get

00:40:21.510 --> 00:40:24.610
to do that. You went to BJ's? Went to BJ's. That's

00:40:24.610 --> 00:40:28.889
why we have Jeremiah Red at the house. That was

00:40:28.889 --> 00:40:31.090
the one that he drank, and he was like, I think

00:40:31.090 --> 00:40:34.210
that's my jam. That's a good one. Now, he wanted

00:40:34.210 --> 00:40:37.250
to Tonka, but they don't can it. Okay, well,

00:40:37.309 --> 00:40:40.949
I would say, like, Jeremiah Red is a good jam

00:40:40.949 --> 00:40:44.650
until you're like, no, I just need the dark beer.

00:40:46.369 --> 00:40:48.429
Yes, and then I think I told you, but they got

00:40:48.429 --> 00:40:52.150
rid of the PM Porter. They introduced one that's

00:40:52.150 --> 00:40:56.789
a little more chocolatey. Really? Yeah, and it

00:40:56.789 --> 00:40:58.750
was good. Like they got rid of it? Yeah, the

00:40:58.750 --> 00:41:01.150
PM Porter is just not there anymore. That's not

00:41:01.150 --> 00:41:04.010
good. Let's see. What is the new one called?

00:41:14.380 --> 00:41:18.699
Not the root beer. Yes, the BJ's Sweet Sin Chocolate

00:41:18.699 --> 00:41:22.960
Porter. It's good. It's good. It's not too chocolate

00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.719
forward. There's a little bit of chocolate sweetness

00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:27.159
in there. I mean, they call it a chocolate porter,

00:41:27.300 --> 00:41:29.579
so how do you mean it's not? But I mean, it's

00:41:29.579 --> 00:41:31.619
not like the chocolate is overpowering. Okay.

00:41:31.940 --> 00:41:36.199
It's there. Okay. And it's more dark. I know

00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:39.079
they say sweet, but it's more dark chocolate.

00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:41.780
So there's a little bit of bitterness. A little

00:41:41.780 --> 00:41:44.250
bit. You get a little more bitterness out of

00:41:44.250 --> 00:41:48.030
the Tatanka, but it's a stout, and that tends

00:41:48.030 --> 00:41:52.110
to be more dark chocolatey and roasted coffee.

00:41:52.849 --> 00:41:54.969
We probably should have made this the third beer.

00:41:56.969 --> 00:42:00.809
I'm just saying. Well, the third and fourth beer

00:42:00.809 --> 00:42:04.849
may have been better third beers once you see

00:42:04.849 --> 00:42:09.409
it. Uh -oh. Yeah. Third beer is technically a

00:42:09.409 --> 00:42:13.489
brown ale. Okay. Technically. I don't know what

00:42:13.489 --> 00:42:20.429
that means. You'll find out. Okay. Yikes. I'm

00:42:20.429 --> 00:42:25.389
scared. What is he doing to me? Dawn dish soap,

00:42:25.409 --> 00:42:30.690
baby. Okay. You can bad mouth Apple all you want

00:42:30.690 --> 00:42:33.289
when it comes to just frustrating, whatever.

00:42:33.489 --> 00:42:37.869
But Windows did come out with Vista. So there

00:42:37.869 --> 00:42:44.389
is no excuse. I tested Vista until I was blue

00:42:44.389 --> 00:42:48.329
in the face, and it just worked. It just worked?

00:42:48.610 --> 00:42:53.809
It did. Did it work with a human? Yes. Tom McKeon.

00:42:54.210 --> 00:42:57.809
No. So 2007, 2008 -ish. I am not calling Tom

00:42:57.809 --> 00:43:02.869
McKeon a human. That guy is way too smart to

00:43:02.869 --> 00:43:05.250
be a human. That's not what that is. We vetted

00:43:05.250 --> 00:43:08.489
that program OS, whatever you want to call it,

00:43:08.489 --> 00:43:12.570
like crazy. Uh -huh. Think old sales logics.

00:43:13.090 --> 00:43:17.190
Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's

00:43:17.190 --> 00:43:22.829
not a plus. Razor's Edge. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Now

00:43:22.829 --> 00:43:29.190
I'm talking old software. Office 2000, we tested

00:43:29.190 --> 00:43:33.869
on there. That's what we had. So anyways, we

00:43:33.869 --> 00:43:37.869
did all that, and it worked. Now, was it a resource

00:43:37.869 --> 00:43:41.550
hog? You better believe it. Your four gigs of

00:43:41.550 --> 00:43:45.130
RAM didn't stretch. And even when we tried it

00:43:45.130 --> 00:43:48.090
on eight gigs, it was like, wow, it even needs

00:43:48.090 --> 00:43:50.289
more. And that was back when eight gigs was like

00:43:50.289 --> 00:43:54.070
a lot. A lot. So I will admit that Vista was

00:43:54.070 --> 00:43:57.889
a resource hog. Now, the problems that other

00:43:57.889 --> 00:44:00.969
people reported, we couldn't reproduce it. Now,

00:44:00.969 --> 00:44:02.750
granted, we only did it on two computers. But

00:44:02.750 --> 00:44:05.130
this is also when I started like, oh, well, I

00:44:05.130 --> 00:44:09.309
can't use Internet Explorer anymore. I remember

00:44:09.309 --> 00:44:14.599
that. Sure. Like this is not useful. Where's

00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:20.179
Firefox? Firefox was like the jam back then.

00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:24.719
Yeah, because by then the predecessor was gone.

00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:31.280
Netscape Navigator. Oh, Netscape. Bringing back

00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:35.000
the old school. Oh, yeah. Netscape Navigator.

00:44:35.019 --> 00:44:37.440
Used Netscape Navigator when I had a hotmail.

00:44:37.980 --> 00:44:39.980
Oh, there you go. Yeah. Just throwing that out

00:44:39.980 --> 00:44:44.960
there. Yeah. Hotmail. I wouldn't be fancy enough

00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.619
to have a Yahoo account. That was cloud computing

00:44:47.619 --> 00:44:53.880
before cloud computing was fancy. True. What

00:44:53.880 --> 00:45:02.119
was the other browser? Mosaic. Mosaic. Oh, my

00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.519
gosh. Mosaic browser. And there was one other.

00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:19.519
These are good, good pretzels. Web Design Museum.

00:45:21.380 --> 00:45:24.340
That's funny. Yeah, Netscape Navigator, Mosaic,

00:45:24.820 --> 00:45:28.760
Exploder, Opera. That was the other one, Opera.

00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:33.159
I feel like I saw Opera. Opera's still around.

00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:37.730
But I never used it. Yeah, so that was kind of

00:45:37.730 --> 00:45:45.630
the big ones then. Exploder. Lynx. Let's see.

00:45:45.690 --> 00:45:49.610
Lynx came out right before Mosaic. True. So I

00:45:49.610 --> 00:45:53.469
think when I got my first computer running Windows

00:45:53.469 --> 00:46:04.610
95, that had to be Exploder 2 .5 or 3 .0. Dang.

00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:11.300
Because I got it in the summer of 96, so that

00:46:11.300 --> 00:46:16.519
was probably Exploder 3. The nine oldest web

00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:19.360
browsers that shaped Internet history. You ready

00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:26.079
for this? Go for it. One, Lynx, 1992. Okay. I

00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:28.179
don't actually believe that that's number one,

00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:34.949
but whatever. Mosaic, 1993. Man. Netscape Navigator,

00:46:35.070 --> 00:46:44.289
1994. Opera, 1995. Okay. Internet Explorer, 1995.

00:46:44.730 --> 00:46:52.969
Yeah. Netscape Communicator. Oh. 1997. Yeah,

00:46:53.090 --> 00:46:56.110
I vaguely remember. It had the N like over the

00:46:56.110 --> 00:47:02.940
curvature of the earth. Oh. That's right. That

00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:08.280
was six. Number seven, Safari, 2003. Yeah. All

00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:12.099
downhill from there. Number eight, Mozilla Firefox,

00:47:12.619 --> 00:47:15.460
which you said was after Mosaic. Yeah, that was

00:47:15.460 --> 00:47:18.659
02 -ish. I didn't know where that came from.

00:47:18.699 --> 00:47:20.300
And then all of a sudden there was a thing called

00:47:20.300 --> 00:47:23.860
a Firefox. Yeah. Number nine, Google Chrome.

00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.340
And I remember Google Chrome being super buggy

00:47:26.340 --> 00:47:30.420
when it first came out. Yeah. It's just become...

00:47:30.860 --> 00:47:35.039
They were trying to like fight directly against

00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:43.119
the Internet Explorer cloud or RAM. Like everything

00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.699
moves slower on Internet Explorer. Sure. And

00:47:46.699 --> 00:47:49.400
then Chrome came out and I was like, well, that's

00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.059
fast, but sometimes it doesn't work. And now

00:47:52.059 --> 00:47:54.079
Chrome has become the very thing that it tried

00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.400
to compete against. That's right. It is the biggest

00:47:56.400 --> 00:48:01.889
hog of RAM. that is existing on my computer yeah

00:48:01.889 --> 00:48:04.969
i mean the number of times okay that see that's

00:48:04.969 --> 00:48:09.170
because you're not on a mac the biggest okay

00:48:09.170 --> 00:48:12.010
i'm not saying that it's not bad it's still bad

00:48:12.010 --> 00:48:15.690
but the biggest is messages what the heck like

00:48:15.690 --> 00:48:17.949
all of a sudden you're on messages and it's like

00:48:17.949 --> 00:48:22.429
uh why are you using you using like all of the

00:48:22.429 --> 00:48:26.769
ram wasn't there a version of netscape that had

00:48:26.769 --> 00:48:33.320
like the um Like the wheel on a, on a sailboat.

00:48:34.460 --> 00:48:40.699
Yeah, I'm sure. Hold on. Yeah. Netscape Navigator

00:48:40.699 --> 00:48:49.579
for Windows. But what version is that? Oh, this

00:48:49.579 --> 00:48:57.320
is a fun game. Netscape. Netscape Navigator for

00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:05.230
95. Whatever was out in 94 had the wheel. Yeah.

00:49:05.250 --> 00:49:10.550
The wheel. Wheel. Why am I saying what, which

00:49:10.550 --> 00:49:16.309
way? Navigator 3. A wheel. There it is. Yeah,

00:49:16.329 --> 00:49:19.809
I see it. Navigator 3. Oh, boy. The sailboat

00:49:19.809 --> 00:49:25.789
wheel around it. Yep. Man, that Netscape background

00:49:25.789 --> 00:49:31.039
is taking me. I'm having some. PTSD. Oh gosh.

00:49:32.139 --> 00:49:34.460
I think that's opening parts of my childhood

00:49:34.460 --> 00:49:40.260
that I don't want to remember. Adolescence. I

00:49:40.260 --> 00:49:42.739
feel like this beer is washing my mouth out.

00:49:45.619 --> 00:49:47.940
That'll teach you to use foul language. Exactly.

00:49:47.940 --> 00:49:49.920
That's where I was going. Yet another Christmas

00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:55.280
story reference. Oh my gosh. What was the soap?

00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:57.980
It came to me. Doesn't he say like what the soap

00:49:57.980 --> 00:50:02.679
is? Yeah. It wasn't lava. It was red, but it

00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:09.900
wasn't lava. Yeah. It was. Oh, shoot. I'm trying

00:50:09.900 --> 00:50:16.519
to find it. Life boy or life buoy. The soap in

00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.260
the iconic scene is a bar of life. I would call

00:50:19.260 --> 00:50:23.269
that buoy. B -U -O -Y. Yeah. That's Bowie. I

00:50:23.269 --> 00:50:26.210
don't, I don't think he said it then. Like he

00:50:26.210 --> 00:50:28.710
said something, but I can't remember what it

00:50:28.710 --> 00:50:32.010
was. Yes. You know, when he's, because that's

00:50:32.010 --> 00:50:33.590
one of the best parts of that whole, like the,

00:50:33.590 --> 00:50:38.449
the, the, like him narrating what's happening

00:50:38.449 --> 00:50:49.039
is so iconic to them. Oh, But I didn't say. And

00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.599
then he lies and says it was his best friend

00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.320
that told him. Yeah. And you hear the mom through

00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:59.119
the phone. Mom, what did I do? Mom, what did

00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:03.260
I do? Yeah, that's right. Oh, my gosh. Classic.

00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:11.219
I don't think I ever got falsely accused by a

00:51:11.219 --> 00:51:13.280
friend, but I did get ratted on one time by a

00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:17.179
friend. That was not fun. That's no good. I deserved

00:51:17.179 --> 00:51:19.980
it. It's not like whatever, but it was that like,

00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:27.440
oh man. Yeah. Now I got to do this. That's funny.

00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:33.639
Yeah. I've talked with my kids about the, not

00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:38.599
that you shouldn't tell the truth all the time,

00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:43.820
but there are some scenarios. Now, granted, this

00:51:43.820 --> 00:51:45.949
is, getting off the Christian path a little bit,

00:51:45.989 --> 00:51:49.409
I'm going to preface this up front. Okay. But

00:51:49.409 --> 00:51:55.789
sometimes people do things and you really don't

00:51:55.789 --> 00:51:58.210
have to rat them out because eventually it's

00:51:58.210 --> 00:52:00.150
going to come back anyways. Yeah, that's true.

00:52:00.829 --> 00:52:04.329
And so the example that I like to classically

00:52:04.329 --> 00:52:09.949
give is the movie Scent of a Woman. Okay. It's

00:52:09.949 --> 00:52:13.010
a really good movie. Where they had the incident

00:52:13.010 --> 00:52:15.250
happen at the school, and they're trying to get

00:52:15.250 --> 00:52:17.349
him to rat out the guys, and he won't rat them

00:52:17.349 --> 00:52:21.369
out. No. And not Pesci. But he's not a rat. Yeah,

00:52:21.429 --> 00:52:25.389
not Pesci. No, not Pacino. Pacino. Pacino is

00:52:25.389 --> 00:52:28.550
going through, you know, he may have done this

00:52:28.550 --> 00:52:31.369
to get accommodations, whatever. Yeah, yeah,

00:52:31.449 --> 00:52:34.599
yeah. And this boy's not. He's got. character

00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:38.360
he's got this he's got his soul's intact yeah

00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:41.659
so that is one of like i i mean you know pesci's

00:52:41.659 --> 00:52:44.780
not or pesci dadgummit you did it to me pacino's

00:52:44.780 --> 00:52:48.079
not uh blind but i did like really love he did

00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:50.820
an amazing job with that movie that movie like

00:52:50.820 --> 00:52:54.039
him like his acting inside of it yes you know

00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.019
he's not blind but dadgummit if his eyes aren't

00:52:57.019 --> 00:53:01.519
fixed the entire time correct correct great movie

00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.280
Great movie. Lots of language. Lots of language.

00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:11.159
But a good movie. Yeah, the tango scene is pretty

00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:20.260
awesome. Give me my bearings here, son. You done

00:53:20.260 --> 00:53:22.880
with the... I got through the dish soap. With

00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:28.739
the dish soap. Why don't you introduce number

00:53:28.739 --> 00:53:36.710
three while I... Chuck, Chuck, Chuck, Chuck.

00:53:37.030 --> 00:53:41.329
Not good. Okay. So number three, I was looking

00:53:41.329 --> 00:53:47.650
for a brown ale. I had Newcastle in mind. Oh

00:53:47.650 --> 00:53:49.909
my gosh. That would have been perfect. Classic

00:53:49.909 --> 00:53:53.769
brown ale. Yeah. No, they didn't even have an

00:53:53.769 --> 00:53:56.190
available in a six pack. Individuals. That should

00:53:56.190 --> 00:53:59.250
have been a two. If we had Newcastle, that'd

00:53:59.250 --> 00:54:02.900
be a two. Well, I take Newcastle at number one.

00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:05.639
Well, sure, but I'm just saying. But I'm going

00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:07.699
through their order that they have these turkeys

00:54:07.699 --> 00:54:13.639
on this list. Oh, no. So next up is smoked turkey.

00:54:14.619 --> 00:54:17.320
I love a good smoked turkey. Yeah, smoked turkey

00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:23.039
is great. Now, if you can actually run a smoker

00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:28.500
using wood logs, more power to you. That is an

00:54:28.500 --> 00:54:31.360
amazing talent. Yeah, but we're not here to compete

00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:34.880
with people. No, no, no, no. So I have the trigger.

00:54:35.059 --> 00:54:38.000
I have the poor man smoker. Set the temperature.

00:54:38.780 --> 00:54:41.119
I'm not sure you can say poor man smoker. Well,

00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:45.420
we bought it used. In fact, my smoker is from,

00:54:45.659 --> 00:54:59.349
oh, what year did that come out? 2012? Wow. I

00:54:59.349 --> 00:55:01.849
think. It's a long time ago. It's old. Yeah,

00:55:01.889 --> 00:55:05.989
so there's no Wi -Fi, no nothing. My kids. Didn't

00:55:05.989 --> 00:55:08.389
even have the temperature probe when I got it.

00:55:09.170 --> 00:55:12.809
I mean, it was like way, way, way back there.

00:55:14.130 --> 00:55:15.989
It didn't have the little trap door in the back

00:55:15.989 --> 00:55:20.030
for the hopper to empty out the pellets. I mean,

00:55:20.050 --> 00:55:23.130
we're talking old, old, old, old, old. But it

00:55:23.130 --> 00:55:25.670
works great. Yeah. I've done some modifications.

00:55:27.269 --> 00:55:29.170
the controller with the kind that has temperature

00:55:29.170 --> 00:55:32.070
probes. I've replaced the hopper with the kind

00:55:32.070 --> 00:55:34.429
that has the door on the back so you can empty

00:55:34.429 --> 00:55:37.969
it out. I've replaced the wheels and done some

00:55:37.969 --> 00:55:40.190
simple modifications to it to keep it going.

00:55:41.530 --> 00:55:45.030
So that's why I say the poor man's Traeger because

00:55:45.030 --> 00:55:47.349
I didn't buy it new as much as I'd love to have

00:55:47.349 --> 00:55:51.230
a brand new one. Sure. But my wife got it for

00:55:51.230 --> 00:55:54.809
me. We've had it for five years. Continues to

00:55:54.809 --> 00:55:58.239
work like a champ. But I do love a smoked turkey,

00:55:58.340 --> 00:56:04.300
and I admit there is a difference between a pellet

00:56:04.300 --> 00:56:08.880
smoker and a traditional stick smoker. The smoke

00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:11.639
flavor is so much more pronounced on a traditional

00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:18.159
smoker. You can try gimmicks of burning wood

00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:20.840
chunks in with your pellet smoker to try to increase.

00:56:21.340 --> 00:56:24.630
It's just never going to be the same. So if you

00:56:24.630 --> 00:56:27.349
have a traditional woodstick smoker, more power

00:56:27.349 --> 00:56:30.750
to you. Yeah. I would say the people that are

00:56:30.750 --> 00:56:35.690
like, oh, I like dry bird. Like this is why I

00:56:35.690 --> 00:56:38.449
don't like turkey. You've probably had a poorly

00:56:38.449 --> 00:56:41.030
smoked. I would agree. Turkey. I would agree.

00:56:42.150 --> 00:56:44.250
Yeah, it probably didn't get brined the way it

00:56:44.250 --> 00:56:50.570
should. Yeah, it just wasn't handled well. That's

00:56:50.570 --> 00:56:53.059
my wife. She's like, I hate turkey. I'm like,

00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:57.179
I don't think you've had good turkey. Well, I

00:56:57.179 --> 00:56:59.079
don't hate turkey, but I don't go out of my way

00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:03.980
to have it outside of Thanksgiving. I'll basically

00:57:03.980 --> 00:57:09.219
eat any meat that you give me. I'm down. Okay.

00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:15.219
So, for a smoked turkey, you want a brown ale.

00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:20.360
It's a great match. So, what we have is technically,

00:57:21.409 --> 00:57:27.809
A brown ale. Dogfish. In a very orange can. Oh,

00:57:27.809 --> 00:57:33.750
no. Yeah, it's dogfish head, brown ale with pumpkin.

00:57:33.949 --> 00:57:40.909
Oh, no. Why are you doing this to me? Technically,

00:57:41.010 --> 00:57:46.949
technically, it's a brown ale. We're in the middle

00:57:46.949 --> 00:57:49.449
of the show, and I've got this crazy desire to

00:57:49.449 --> 00:57:55.949
go break the seal. While you drink this. It's

00:57:55.949 --> 00:57:58.610
called the pumpkin ale. This is going to be horrible.

00:57:59.369 --> 00:58:01.250
It's going to be so bad. I don't like pumpkin.

00:58:01.690 --> 00:58:03.050
Yeah, you're probably going to have to drink

00:58:03.050 --> 00:58:07.989
both of these. Because Chris doesn't quit on

00:58:07.989 --> 00:58:09.969
beer. I drink mine. I don't drink other people's.

00:58:10.070 --> 00:58:15.889
Okay. All right. I was trying to explain to Lori

00:58:15.889 --> 00:58:19.429
how many beers I had at your son's 21st birthday.

00:58:19.650 --> 00:58:22.840
Oh. And it was like, it wasn't necessarily because

00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:27.659
I've had six beers and been fine. I was like,

00:58:27.739 --> 00:58:30.559
it wasn't necessarily the number of beers. It

00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.260
was that the average alcohol by volume was like

00:58:34.260 --> 00:58:38.679
eight. Yeah. Which is almost like two beers.

00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:44.559
Yeah. So I was trying to explain that. I got

00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:46.480
to smell this first. Hold on. Well, the smell's

00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:49.460
not bad. Yes, it is. Don't tell me that. I can

00:58:49.460 --> 00:58:55.480
smell the... I'm going to tell you, I don't smell

00:58:55.480 --> 00:59:01.280
pumpkin. I smell fruit. Well... There's like

00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:04.280
a sweetness. Maybe by pumpkin they mean like

00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.900
pumpkin pie. I got a little more... What does

00:59:06.900 --> 00:59:09.940
it say? Yeah, we haven't been reading blurbs.

00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:13.659
A full -bodied brown ale brewed with real pumpkin.

00:59:14.409 --> 00:59:18.829
Brown sugar. There you go. Okay, yeah. Allspice.

00:59:19.090 --> 00:59:21.869
So I'm guessing this is going to taste a little

00:59:21.869 --> 00:59:28.849
bit like potpourri. Nutmeg. Yeah, one man's trash

00:59:28.849 --> 00:59:32.250
is another man's potpourri. Nutmeg and cinnamon.

00:59:32.789 --> 00:59:38.610
Enjoy smooth pumpkin and fall spices. You are

00:59:38.610 --> 00:59:43.179
my friend, and I love you. And I have some different

00:59:43.179 --> 00:59:45.940
feelings towards you right now. Hey, I'm drinking

00:59:45.940 --> 00:59:50.019
it with you. Golly. Here we go. I can't. I can't.

00:59:50.019 --> 00:59:52.119
This is so bad. Here we go. This is like pumpkin

00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:58.659
spice beer. Yeah, that's pumpkin spice beer.

00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:06.880
Oh, my gosh. It's potpourri. Oh. It's like a

01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:14.130
bed, bath, and beyond. In a can. Oh. Bath and

01:00:14.130 --> 01:00:16.869
Body Works. Like I'm walking through Bath and

01:00:16.869 --> 01:00:20.750
Body Works in the fall. Oh, no. It's in my mouth.

01:00:24.210 --> 01:00:36.690
Wow. Wow. Dogfish, I am not a fan of what you

01:00:36.690 --> 01:00:43.079
did here with the brown ale. Why would you do

01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:46.980
that? Why did you do that? There is something

01:00:46.980 --> 01:00:52.820
in that aftertaste. This is going to really mess

01:00:52.820 --> 01:00:58.079
with the last one. Not really. I'm going to have

01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:02.940
to eat a lot. Oh, really? Oh, no. It's a Tops,

01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:09.559
if that helps. I mean, maybe. Have you saved

01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:13.059
the IPA for the last one? No, no, no. No IPAs.

01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:15.500
Okay. You don't have to worry. I will never bring

01:01:15.500 --> 01:01:18.139
an IPA to the show. Okay. Never, ever, ever,

01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:21.440
ever, ever. But you brought a pumpkin ale. It's

01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:24.500
a brown ale. It's not a brown ale. It's a brown

01:01:24.500 --> 01:01:31.539
ale with some kind of spice. There's no pumpkin.

01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:42.360
Oh, my gosh. And why does the pumpkin have a

01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:46.820
microphone? Well, obviously that jack -o' -lantern

01:01:46.820 --> 01:01:51.460
is singing his little heart out. Please drink

01:01:51.460 --> 01:01:57.780
me. I don't know. That's weird. It says fall

01:01:57.780 --> 01:02:04.980
release 2025, but I really think probably some...

01:02:09.010 --> 01:02:13.750
Devil -worshipping communist has infiltrated

01:02:13.750 --> 01:02:22.030
dogfish head. Yes. Do I have to? I really want

01:02:22.030 --> 01:02:25.710
to pour this down the drain. No one's forcing

01:02:25.710 --> 01:02:27.530
you to drink it. Nobody should have to drink

01:02:27.530 --> 01:02:33.309
this. We suffer through this so they don't have

01:02:33.309 --> 01:02:39.559
to. Oh my gosh. Okay, so if your wife is like,

01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:47.119
if she's a beer drinker and she is in love with

01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:51.380
the fall and all things fall and the flavors

01:02:51.380 --> 01:02:59.880
of fall, maybe, maybe she'll like this beer.

01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:07.219
This is probably. She's going to be like, well,

01:03:07.300 --> 01:03:10.860
that stuff needs to stay a scent, not a taste.

01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:14.880
Not a taste, yes. This is quickly approaching

01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:22.340
the level that I would put this near the Russian

01:03:22.340 --> 01:03:26.260
stouts. Now I'm going to pour this bag of chip,

01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:30.000
or not chips, pretzels into my mouth just to

01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:35.539
try to get rid of the taste. Oh, man. I got to

01:03:35.539 --> 01:03:37.659
start chugging it so I don't have to actually

01:03:37.659 --> 01:03:40.119
drink it anymore. I hope you all appreciate the

01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:41.739
torture we put ourselves through. I mean, it's

01:03:41.739 --> 01:03:46.300
really bad, guys. Well, let me give you some

01:03:46.300 --> 01:03:50.139
good news. Don't drink this when you're eating

01:03:50.139 --> 01:03:55.179
turkey. No. Stick to the Newcastle, please. If

01:03:55.179 --> 01:03:56.739
there's some sort of turkey that you're like,

01:03:56.820 --> 01:04:00.159
man, this had so little flavor that I'm hoping

01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:04.699
to have all of the fall flavors instead. This

01:04:04.699 --> 01:04:10.320
would be your beer. But like... Okay. So here's

01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:12.820
some good news. We don't have to do this again?

01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:23.460
No, we don't. So the El Gato people. Okay. Makers

01:04:23.460 --> 01:04:25.960
of Stream Deck. Yes. Great product. Big fan.

01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:30.380
Highly recommend. Yeah. They came out with a

01:04:30.380 --> 01:04:33.400
network adapter. Yes, you told me about this.

01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:35.300
Yes, that will work with their products. This

01:04:35.300 --> 01:04:37.760
is not something that we're upset about. No,

01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:39.400
no, no, no. There's nothing upset about this

01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:41.900
one. This is good. We need some good news as

01:04:41.900 --> 01:04:48.739
we're drinking this beer. So you feed PoE into

01:04:48.739 --> 01:04:52.840
the brick, and then you take type C out into

01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:57.159
your stream deck. Okay. So you're basically powering

01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:01.380
your stream deck via PoE. And? And it powers

01:05:01.380 --> 01:05:05.539
all of them. The regular Stream Deck, the Mini,

01:05:05.739 --> 01:05:10.659
the XL. What's the one with the rotary dials?

01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:17.139
Oh, what is that one called? Plus. The Plus,

01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:20.780
yeah, the Plus with the rotary dial. Okay, what's

01:05:20.780 --> 01:05:22.559
the little thing hanging off the side of this?

01:05:24.139 --> 01:05:29.619
Ooh. Oh. What does that say? TCP? What is that?

01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:35.380
Top. That says top? T -O -P. Oh my gosh. I've

01:05:35.380 --> 01:05:38.059
had too many beers. Yeah, you have. So basically

01:05:38.059 --> 01:05:40.119
that, what you're seeing only works with the

01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:44.960
XL. Okay. With the XL, there's a piece that glues

01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:47.920
onto it and then pushes through where the type

01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.760
C would pass through the back of the... Did you

01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:55.170
just hiccup? Just like in a cartoon. Oh, my gosh.

01:05:55.170 --> 01:06:01.230
He's drunk. Oh, no. No, not drunk. Anyways, this

01:06:01.230 --> 01:06:04.070
would pass through where the Type -C cable would

01:06:04.070 --> 01:06:06.449
pass through. Okay. And it kind of locks into

01:06:06.449 --> 01:06:09.730
position and will hold the adapter underneath

01:06:09.730 --> 01:06:12.869
the actual stream deck in its enclosure. Okay,

01:06:12.909 --> 01:06:15.769
I see that. And then you have a little shorty

01:06:15.769 --> 01:06:18.940
Type -C that comes out of this, plugs in. It's

01:06:18.940 --> 01:06:21.659
shaped that way to go underneath. To go underneath.

01:06:21.820 --> 01:06:26.000
So they also ship it with a piece that it clips

01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:28.500
into that you could secure it to a wall, under

01:06:28.500 --> 01:06:31.340
a desk, however you wanted to do it, and then

01:06:31.340 --> 01:06:36.039
run the Type -C out to your Stream Deck. Now

01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:39.440
with this, you can still run the same Stream

01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:43.260
Deck software, but instead of being tied to a

01:06:43.260 --> 01:06:47.139
USB cable, it could be... Two buildings away

01:06:47.139 --> 01:06:51.420
on your network, you connect to it via IP, and

01:06:51.420 --> 01:06:54.260
now you can control the Stream Deck. Or it could

01:06:54.260 --> 01:06:57.619
literally be at the desk with you. I'm trying

01:06:57.619 --> 01:06:59.860
to think of why that would be important. So here's

01:06:59.860 --> 01:07:02.800
where we're going with it. Okay. We are looking

01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:07.619
at how do we simplify AV systems for college

01:07:07.619 --> 01:07:12.179
staff? Because increasingly, it's getting harder

01:07:12.179 --> 01:07:15.670
and harder and harder to hire. college staff

01:07:15.670 --> 01:07:21.090
who have sufficient av background i don't think

01:07:21.090 --> 01:07:23.650
that's a new thing like it's it's so hard no

01:07:23.650 --> 01:07:25.630
but it's it's way worse now than it's ever been

01:07:25.630 --> 01:07:28.610
really every now and then you get an absolute

01:07:28.610 --> 01:07:31.289
diamond in the rough and it's like dude you got

01:07:31.289 --> 01:07:35.070
to come back for five years um so we're going

01:07:35.070 --> 01:07:37.190
how do we simplify this how do i need your next

01:07:37.190 --> 01:07:40.949
five summers exactly if not more so what there's

01:07:40.949 --> 01:07:44.210
a lot of integrations in the stream deck So it

01:07:44.210 --> 01:07:47.849
can integrate into certain sound boards. It can

01:07:47.849 --> 01:07:52.269
integrate into other systems. It could even integrate

01:07:52.269 --> 01:07:54.750
into another product that we have talked about

01:07:54.750 --> 01:07:59.750
with lighting controls. So if you can set up

01:07:59.750 --> 01:08:02.909
a stream deck to, if you click this button, it's

01:08:02.909 --> 01:08:06.030
going to enact this behavior with your sound

01:08:06.030 --> 01:08:10.849
board. Man, macros are awesome. Yes. Or with

01:08:10.849 --> 01:08:15.489
lighting. We can work with this. Why does it

01:08:15.489 --> 01:08:19.930
have two USB -Cs? I didn't think it had two.

01:08:20.029 --> 01:08:21.750
It's got one on the front and one on the back.

01:08:22.710 --> 01:08:29.529
Ooh. I didn't notice that before. Well, that's

01:08:29.529 --> 01:08:36.210
what I'm here for. Hmm. That's intriguing. Is

01:08:36.210 --> 01:08:39.630
that in case you need to give it power? Without

01:08:39.630 --> 01:08:42.510
a PoE switch? That would make sense. If you didn't

01:08:42.510 --> 01:08:44.270
have PoE, you'd have to have somewhere to drive

01:08:44.270 --> 01:08:47.590
power into it. You've got an internet connection

01:08:47.590 --> 01:08:53.109
over the Cat5, but if you don't have a PoE switch

01:08:53.109 --> 01:08:56.130
and you don't want an injector, you can power

01:08:56.130 --> 01:09:01.369
this thing via a Type -C and then connect through

01:09:01.369 --> 01:09:05.109
the other. That would make sense. Because there's

01:09:05.109 --> 01:09:07.949
sometimes where people don't have PoE or enough

01:09:07.949 --> 01:09:15.439
PoE. Enough, yeah. POE is becoming more and more

01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.659
of a thing. POE is definitely amazing. So where

01:09:18.659 --> 01:09:20.960
we're looking at it is if you had these at every

01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:29.659
camp, Jason could open up the program, connect

01:09:29.659 --> 01:09:33.260
to the IP of the stream deck at a given camp.

01:09:33.619 --> 01:09:36.579
He now sees its screen. He can make any adjustments

01:09:36.579 --> 01:09:39.970
that he needs to to that stream deck. And it

01:09:39.970 --> 01:09:43.310
just works. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. And then he's like,

01:09:43.369 --> 01:09:45.529
okay, I need to go to the next camp. Let me switch

01:09:45.529 --> 01:09:49.210
to that one. Connect via that IP. Let me make

01:09:49.210 --> 01:09:52.289
some changes for you. I mean, because like, say

01:09:52.289 --> 01:09:57.510
a certain camp or a couple camps have lighting

01:09:57.510 --> 01:10:00.409
control that you want to involve with this. But

01:10:00.409 --> 01:10:03.590
there are certain camps that don't. So you don't

01:10:03.590 --> 01:10:07.619
like have a... Oh, man. Okay, so I'm going to

01:10:07.619 --> 01:10:12.039
throw another curveball into this. Okay. Oh,

01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:16.159
shoot. Not if I can't remember it. Blame it on

01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:18.140
the beer. It's the pumpkin. Yeah, I'm going to

01:10:18.140 --> 01:10:20.039
blame it on the pumpkin. It's the pumpkin. There's

01:10:20.039 --> 01:10:24.460
too much spice in my life right now to think

01:10:24.460 --> 01:10:29.489
through this. You're so lucky I can't remember

01:10:29.489 --> 01:10:32.109
the lyrics to that Spice Girls song right now.

01:10:33.329 --> 01:10:35.810
Something about spicing up your life. There you

01:10:35.810 --> 01:10:42.069
go, yeah. No, okay, so there's a company called

01:10:42.069 --> 01:10:46.130
BitFocus that if you've not looked at, oh my

01:10:46.130 --> 01:10:50.090
gosh, you look so miserable. If you've not looked

01:10:50.090 --> 01:10:54.289
at BitFocus, Jason. Companion. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

01:10:54.289 --> 01:10:57.569
we've looked at it. Oh, dadgummit. I thought

01:10:57.569 --> 01:11:00.250
I was going to just blow your mind right here,

01:11:00.289 --> 01:11:02.449
Jason. Yeah, keep going. If you have not looked

01:11:02.449 --> 01:11:07.090
at Bitfocus Companion, you need to look at that

01:11:07.090 --> 01:11:15.130
because there's all kinds of just really cool

01:11:15.130 --> 01:11:22.939
use cases for this. And, and honestly, like it

01:11:22.939 --> 01:11:24.800
was one of those things we have been looking

01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:31.819
for companion for a while now without knowing

01:11:31.819 --> 01:11:36.100
what to call it. Okay. We've, I mean, I've, I've

01:11:36.100 --> 01:11:44.859
been trying to like Google search this like solution

01:11:44.859 --> 01:11:51.810
for a while. Okay. But basically Let me just

01:11:51.810 --> 01:11:54.409
read this companion elevates the affordable Elgato

01:11:54.409 --> 01:11:57.529
stream deck and similar devices into professional

01:11:57.529 --> 01:12:02.630
control surfaces for an extensive range of equipment

01:12:02.630 --> 01:12:06.729
and applications from presentation. So let me

01:12:06.729 --> 01:12:11.729
stop. If you've ever worked with an Elgato stream

01:12:11.729 --> 01:12:15.529
deck or something like that, you know that like.

01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:18.600
Program -wise, they have a lot of integrations.

01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:22.359
There's a lot of things that just commonly work

01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:27.560
with them. They started off more simple. They

01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:30.100
got into the stream deck world. If you were a

01:12:30.100 --> 01:12:35.619
Twitch or whatever guy, it really would. I mean,

01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:38.500
I wish everybody could see what I'm seeing right

01:12:38.500 --> 01:12:42.659
now. Chris is in pain trying to finish this beer.

01:12:43.300 --> 01:12:47.979
I'm close. like the stream deck guys, like the,

01:12:47.979 --> 01:12:50.659
the, sorry, the stream deck guys, the Twitch

01:12:50.659 --> 01:12:54.119
guys, the, the streamers, the, everybody who's

01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:56.800
YouTubers, like they were, they would use these

01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:58.619
and there were a lot of integrations that kind

01:12:58.619 --> 01:13:04.800
of came from that, but. Yep. OBS. OBS. Yep. Huge.

01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:10.029
Yep. But there were a lot of things that. more

01:13:10.029 --> 01:13:12.329
professional installations are like well this

01:13:12.329 --> 01:13:14.529
isn't really like that's more for those guys

01:13:14.529 --> 01:13:18.529
this isn't integrating the way that you know

01:13:18.529 --> 01:13:21.210
there's ways to get around it or whatever enter

01:13:21.210 --> 01:13:24.670
companion and companion did what all of us were

01:13:24.670 --> 01:13:28.149
kind of hoping would happen at some point and

01:13:28.149 --> 01:13:33.869
that is to say uh there's more things that this

01:13:33.869 --> 01:13:38.689
can connect with yeah um there's there's a much

01:13:38.689 --> 01:13:45.449
easier way for us to create these. I mean, you

01:13:45.449 --> 01:13:47.289
know, like when you're, when they push a, when

01:13:47.289 --> 01:13:51.189
you push a button and use a macro on a stream

01:13:51.189 --> 01:13:56.289
deck, like to create a different show set up.

01:13:56.409 --> 01:13:59.470
Yeah. Like that's, that's pretty cool. But when

01:13:59.470 --> 01:14:02.970
you can do that in a live arena, like not arena,

01:14:03.069 --> 01:14:05.710
but like a live environment and live environment,

01:14:05.850 --> 01:14:09.390
that's a different level. Oh, yeah. And so Companion

01:14:09.390 --> 01:14:11.850
kind of brings all those things together. And

01:14:11.850 --> 01:14:13.930
so that's what it means by presentation switchers

01:14:13.930 --> 01:14:18.109
and broadcast equipment to video playback software

01:14:18.109 --> 01:14:21.050
and home automation systems. So you could have

01:14:21.050 --> 01:14:23.609
this. One of the cool things is if you look at

01:14:23.609 --> 01:14:26.689
this website for this, they've got these different,

01:14:26.789 --> 01:14:36.039
like you can look at the way that they do. It's

01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:41.840
not installed AV spaces. Where's the... I'm looking

01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:49.859
for a certain page. Hold on. They don't have

01:14:49.859 --> 01:14:52.460
a Black Friday. They have a Black Week. Black

01:14:52.460 --> 01:14:59.020
Week. 50 % discount. I'm going to find it. I'm

01:14:59.020 --> 01:15:03.539
going to find it. But basically like... They've

01:15:03.539 --> 01:15:06.100
got a way for you to install these things in

01:15:06.100 --> 01:15:08.560
the wall where you don't have switches anymore.

01:15:08.659 --> 01:15:11.979
You have buttons. And if you can connect it to

01:15:11.979 --> 01:15:15.439
a Raspberry Pi, there are just a lot of things

01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:22.239
that you can do that don't require you to do

01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:26.840
half of what like setup work you normally have

01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:31.539
to do. installed av spaces i think i already

01:15:31.539 --> 01:15:34.199
looked at that one touch room setup with a single

01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:36.680
button power on displays lower blinds adjust

01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:40.560
lights and route audio to instantly prepare the

01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:43.659
room yeah so like in rooms like pine cove or

01:15:43.659 --> 01:15:45.859
that pine cove has like as a camp that is burned

01:15:45.859 --> 01:15:49.039
out by a bunch of different people in rooms at

01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:52.680
a church if you've got not only your sunday morning

01:15:52.680 --> 01:15:54.539
stuff but you've got stuff throughout the week

01:15:54.539 --> 01:15:58.720
that looks different It's possible for you to

01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:01.960
put all that on one button. Yes, it is. And it

01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:07.340
starts all of it. Everything from the blinds

01:16:07.340 --> 01:16:10.300
are shut, the lights are on, the stage lights

01:16:10.300 --> 01:16:12.979
are on, the music is playing, the speakers are

01:16:12.979 --> 01:16:19.939
on. All of that. There's some work that has to

01:16:19.939 --> 01:16:21.880
happen on the backside. You've got to make sure

01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:26.479
that you've got gear that is going to... talk

01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:32.180
to this companion app and stuff, but their list

01:16:32.180 --> 01:16:40.079
of compatible devices is huge. Yes, it is. So

01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:45.579
I'm just saying look it up. It's a good product.

01:16:47.619 --> 01:16:49.680
Sorry, I didn't mean to steal your thunder. No,

01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:52.119
you're good. You're good. What are you all doing

01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:54.500
with this? So we are still in the experimental

01:16:54.500 --> 01:16:57.899
phase. Cause we just got the one adapter. We

01:16:57.899 --> 01:16:59.899
have it working with the XL that we have at the

01:16:59.899 --> 01:17:03.279
office just so that Jason can experience. Yeah.

01:17:03.539 --> 01:17:06.619
Yeah. He's feeling the pain people. It's the

01:17:06.619 --> 01:17:16.380
pain. Oh, why did you do that? And you, and you

01:17:16.380 --> 01:17:19.310
want to do a video show, don't you? I mean, I

01:17:19.310 --> 01:17:22.569
feel like everybody would better understand what's

01:17:22.569 --> 01:17:28.289
happening right now if we were on video. I would

01:17:28.289 --> 01:17:30.510
know because the memes that would come from the

01:17:30.510 --> 01:17:35.170
faces that we would make. I don't want to become

01:17:35.170 --> 01:17:40.930
a meme. Oof. I may have pre -ordered a Video

01:17:40.930 --> 01:17:45.350
S. Oh, I'm close. Yeah, I did. Now, the one thing

01:17:45.350 --> 01:17:47.750
that they can't do. and we're shifting gears

01:17:47.750 --> 01:17:50.470
really quick here, is they don't appear to have

01:17:50.470 --> 01:17:54.649
the ability to use the, man, my brain is shutting

01:17:54.649 --> 01:17:57.609
down tonight. It has nothing to do with beer.

01:17:57.630 --> 01:17:59.510
Too much pumpkin. Too much pumpkin. It's not

01:17:59.510 --> 01:18:01.909
the beer. It's the spice. No, it's the pumpkin,

01:18:01.909 --> 01:18:06.029
the spice. Whatever that is, that is the mind

01:18:06.029 --> 01:18:09.449
killer right there. Forget fear. It's pumpkin

01:18:09.449 --> 01:18:12.390
ale. Fear is the mind killer, yes. Good Dune

01:18:12.390 --> 01:18:16.750
reference. Thank you. The feature where we can

01:18:16.750 --> 01:18:20.050
call each other. On this? On the RODECasters.

01:18:20.390 --> 01:18:22.489
Yeah. Call me. Call me. Thank you. Yes, call

01:18:22.489 --> 01:18:25.149
me. It does not appear that they support call

01:18:25.149 --> 01:18:28.609
me on the video. Interesting. Which is a bit

01:18:28.609 --> 01:18:32.170
of a bummer because the S basically has the Duo

01:18:32.170 --> 01:18:34.909
built in, which is what you own. Yeah. And it's

01:18:34.909 --> 01:18:36.630
like, how can you not have the call me option?

01:18:37.329 --> 01:18:40.470
Because they want you to buy the Duo. And then

01:18:40.470 --> 01:18:43.130
connect it to the video. Exactly, yes. They want

01:18:43.130 --> 01:18:45.590
you to buy the Rodecaster and hook it up to the

01:18:45.590 --> 01:18:49.109
video. Yes, exactly. Which, honestly. Which to

01:18:49.109 --> 01:18:50.869
me says they're never going to bring Call Me

01:18:50.869 --> 01:18:54.489
to the videocaster. No, I think they will. I

01:18:54.489 --> 01:18:57.529
think they'll give it a year or two. Maybe. Maybe

01:18:57.529 --> 01:19:01.470
an iteration. Maybe. Maybe Video S2 will have

01:19:01.470 --> 01:19:06.149
it. Well, the Video S2 I would like to think

01:19:06.149 --> 01:19:09.579
is a ways off. I mean, I hope so because the

01:19:09.579 --> 01:19:12.960
video S just came out, but I do think that at

01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:14.859
some point it's coming. I just don't think that

01:19:14.859 --> 01:19:21.119
it's going to be the time that we're all hoping

01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:25.020
for. Made it. I'm going to finish this. Chuck,

01:19:25.100 --> 01:19:31.520
Chuck, Chuck. Oh, he made it. Oh, guys, it's

01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:35.239
so bad. Don't drink that. Don't do it to yourself.

01:19:35.340 --> 01:19:38.319
That was horrible. Why would anybody taste that

01:19:38.319 --> 01:19:41.600
and go, this is absolutely amazing? I mean, it's

01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:46.479
got to be somebody who just cannot get enough

01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:51.100
potpourri in their life. I guess. It really is.

01:19:51.140 --> 01:19:56.100
It's potpourri. If you've ever smelled potpourri

01:19:56.100 --> 01:19:59.199
and thought, I really want to chew on that, this

01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:02.329
is for you. Okay. So you ready for the dessert

01:20:02.329 --> 01:20:05.609
course? I just am nervous. I'll get out. It's

01:20:05.609 --> 01:20:09.149
Tupps. They make good beer. Yeah, but... But

01:20:09.149 --> 01:20:11.449
not all beers are equal. I don't know. Okay,

01:20:11.529 --> 01:20:15.609
so... We're gonna call this the dessert pairing.

01:20:15.829 --> 01:20:17.850
It's not quite what I wanted, but we're gonna

01:20:17.850 --> 01:20:20.750
go with it. We're gonna power through. Okay,

01:20:20.890 --> 01:20:25.029
it is called Full Grown Jack. Okay. Not Full

01:20:25.029 --> 01:20:28.630
Grown Man, which is a great beer. But this is

01:20:28.630 --> 01:20:31.909
Full Man Jack. Full grown Jack is. It is an imperial

01:20:31.909 --> 01:20:38.750
stout. Okay. It is an imperial stout. With pumpkin

01:20:38.750 --> 01:20:44.069
spices. Oh my gosh. Why'd you do that? You can

01:20:44.069 --> 01:20:46.170
talk for a little bit. We should have. I'm going

01:20:46.170 --> 01:20:48.069
to go pee for. Now that I'm looking at the cam,

01:20:48.170 --> 01:20:53.270
we should have led with this. Oh my gosh. It's

01:20:53.270 --> 01:20:59.579
12 .1%. Oh no. Okay. Pause. okay yeah i definitely

01:20:59.579 --> 01:21:02.699
overestimated the amount of and we're back liquid

01:21:02.699 --> 01:21:08.699
i could um not realizing that this was a 12 .1

01:21:08.699 --> 01:21:11.960
oh my gosh i'm perfectly fine if you choose not

01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:15.840
to drink it well i gotta taste it at least so

01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:19.079
oh with pumpkin spices there's no and there's

01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:22.680
no blurb no it's just terrible i'm sure but it

01:21:22.680 --> 01:21:25.699
does say Ages well. Yeah, I don't understand

01:21:25.699 --> 01:21:26.979
that. Please recycle. Yeah, I don't know what

01:21:26.979 --> 01:21:29.439
that means. That's terrifying. There's a government

01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:33.960
warning. Government warning. Danger, you have

01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:40.579
picked up a pumpkin spice beer. So this one thing

01:21:40.579 --> 01:21:44.720
on the can says traditionally untraditional.

01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:50.260
Oh, this is going to be so bad. All right, well.

01:21:50.420 --> 01:21:56.409
All right. Oh, my gosh. Are you okay? You ever

01:21:56.409 --> 01:22:00.210
done this before? Yeah, here we go. I'm going

01:22:00.210 --> 01:22:08.069
to smell it. Okay, it's refreshingly not as aromatic.

01:22:08.069 --> 01:22:12.770
It doesn't smell like dogfish. I don't know what

01:22:12.770 --> 01:22:15.090
I'm about to taste because it doesn't smell.

01:22:16.710 --> 01:22:19.949
Bottoms up to you. Here we go, folks. Hold on.

01:22:19.989 --> 01:22:24.039
I just need a second. I've still got dogfish.

01:22:24.539 --> 01:22:32.380
Give me a pretzel. Yeah, there you go. We need

01:22:32.380 --> 01:22:38.279
some really good palate cleansers. What's that

01:22:38.279 --> 01:22:43.720
stuff you're supposed to... Water? Okay, not

01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:48.539
water. That's not what I was thinking. There's

01:22:48.539 --> 01:22:52.750
like a... An ice cream or something you're supposed

01:22:52.750 --> 01:22:58.470
to. Oh. Fancy people, tell us what you're supposed

01:22:58.470 --> 01:23:03.649
to use as a palate cleanser. Yeah. Let's see.

01:23:08.250 --> 01:23:11.029
I know what a palate cleanser is. Don't give

01:23:11.029 --> 01:23:18.430
me the definition. Yikes. What is a good example?

01:23:19.030 --> 01:23:22.529
Traditional palate cleansers. Thank you. Tell

01:23:22.529 --> 01:23:30.550
me. Sparkling water or flat water. See, I was

01:23:30.550 --> 01:23:36.029
right. Lightly brewed green, black, or mint tea.

01:23:37.350 --> 01:23:41.510
Celery sticks. Yeah, I'm not eating a celery

01:23:41.510 --> 01:23:46.329
stick. A sprig of parsley. So help me. We're

01:23:46.329 --> 01:23:49.039
just going to drink this. Here we go. Ready?

01:23:49.119 --> 01:24:04.220
Go. I can't tell. Is it the same? Or do I just

01:24:04.220 --> 01:24:06.640
have that taste in my mouth? No, there's something

01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:11.119
different. The aftertaste. Oh, it sticks with

01:24:11.119 --> 01:24:17.529
you. Oh, it's on the back side of the tongue,

01:24:17.630 --> 01:24:20.010
whatever it is. I feel like I can say with very

01:24:20.010 --> 01:24:26.449
strong conviction about this, anything that says

01:24:26.449 --> 01:24:35.109
pumpkin or pumpkin spice is not pumpkin. It's...

01:24:40.029 --> 01:24:43.289
This show better get so many downloads. Oh, my

01:24:43.289 --> 01:24:53.869
gosh. Oh, man. It is not good. No. Oh, boy. I'm

01:24:53.869 --> 01:25:01.050
hurting. If you are, I mean. If you're still

01:25:01.050 --> 01:25:03.930
listening to this, you must be a sadist. I mean.

01:25:03.970 --> 01:25:08.609
If I've got the right term. Really, really want

01:25:08.609 --> 01:25:13.449
other people to feel pain. Yes. I don't know

01:25:13.449 --> 01:25:15.569
if it's sadist or masochist, but it's one of

01:25:15.569 --> 01:25:19.430
them. Yeah, that's a good question. My eyes are

01:25:19.430 --> 01:25:22.449
watering. You keep talking. I'm going to look

01:25:22.449 --> 01:25:27.649
that up. Be careful. That's a rough Google search.

01:25:29.329 --> 01:25:32.050
It's okay. My network administrator is right

01:25:32.050 --> 01:25:40.789
next to me. Okay, a sadist enjoys inflicting

01:25:40.789 --> 01:25:44.670
pain and humiliation on others while a masochist

01:25:44.670 --> 01:25:47.510
enjoys receiving it. Okay, so if you're still

01:25:47.510 --> 01:25:49.510
here, you're a masochist. You're a sadist. And

01:25:49.510 --> 01:25:54.430
they're a masochist. And we're masochists. Because

01:25:54.430 --> 01:26:01.409
evidently we've crossed over into inflicting

01:26:01.409 --> 01:26:07.189
pain on ourselves for some sort of... bonus i

01:26:07.189 --> 01:26:11.949
don't know like this is so bad it's worse it's

01:26:11.949 --> 01:26:14.109
it's so much worse than dogfish it's because

01:26:14.109 --> 01:26:17.949
it like lingers longer and it's on the side of

01:26:17.949 --> 01:26:20.770
the back side of the tongue yeah i definitely

01:26:20.770 --> 01:26:23.090
it's it's definitely on that like throat side

01:26:23.090 --> 01:26:42.859
of your tongue This is so bad. Why are we ending

01:26:42.859 --> 01:26:45.720
the show this way? We're going to try to end

01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:50.779
with some good news. Okay. Light key. Light key,

01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:52.520
yes. Lighting control for Mac. Lighting control

01:26:52.520 --> 01:26:57.819
for Mac. I like their little blurb. Professional

01:26:57.819 --> 01:27:02.800
DMX lighting control. Mac style. Mac style. Like

01:27:02.800 --> 01:27:06.529
it's a burger of some kind. That's McDonald's.

01:27:06.770 --> 01:27:10.789
Yeah. Well, I was thinking more of In -N -Out.

01:27:11.930 --> 01:27:14.649
Okay. Likey's been around for a while. It has.

01:27:14.970 --> 01:27:24.149
Yes. So we've been using Hog, and it runs on

01:27:24.149 --> 01:27:26.689
Windows, and it does a great job, but we've been

01:27:26.689 --> 01:27:30.840
looking for an alternative. Yeah. Hog is one

01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:33.279
of those names in lighting control that's been

01:27:33.279 --> 01:27:36.119
around for a while. Yes. And it can do anything

01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:38.779
and everything that you want it to ever do. But

01:27:38.779 --> 01:27:42.199
you can't expect a college kid to go, oh yeah,

01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:44.760
I know hog. Let me totally configure that. Yeah.

01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:46.199
That feels like something you need to be trained

01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:49.680
for. Like hog is one of those things that it's

01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:51.460
like, oh yeah, if you're a professional lighting

01:27:51.460 --> 01:27:56.060
guy, you know how to do hog. Yeah. Oh, and then

01:27:56.060 --> 01:27:58.439
they have, You can control it via software, which

01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:01.159
is what we've done. They have hardware surfaces

01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:06.279
that you could also use for it. Now, what I do

01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:08.800
like, what Hogg does, is if you go to the Hogg

01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:14.979
training, they give you the USB DMX adapter.

01:28:15.859 --> 01:28:19.380
Nice. As a part of the training. That's a great

01:28:19.380 --> 01:28:21.699
idea. Oh, yeah. So we were told, like, okay,

01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:24.079
so who do we need to send to training? Because

01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:26.720
we want to get all these adapters. As many people

01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:32.279
as we need adapters. Yes. So that's a good way

01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:35.960
to get the USB DMX adapter is go do the training

01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:38.800
and you get the adapter. Interesting. Like he

01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:41.899
have anything like that? Not that I've seen so

01:28:41.899 --> 01:28:45.220
far, but they have extensive compatibility with

01:28:45.220 --> 01:28:50.060
USB -based DMX controllers. Okay. And they go

01:28:50.060 --> 01:28:57.960
beyond. So they talk about USB, ArtNet, SACN,

01:28:58.020 --> 01:29:02.619
and ESPNet that they can do, as well as you can

01:29:02.619 --> 01:29:08.479
control smart -based lights from within the system,

01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:11.859
so it goes kind of beyond TMX. Yeah, so smart

01:29:11.859 --> 01:29:15.460
lights like your home lights. Yeah, like Philips.

01:29:16.020 --> 01:29:20.560
Philips Hue. Hue, yeah, Hue, not View. So there's

01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:24.239
a lot that you can do here. Reasonably simple

01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:28.420
to configure. Oh, you can run your lights from

01:29:28.420 --> 01:29:31.020
Ableton Live. Yes. There's probably a few that

01:29:31.020 --> 01:29:35.840
can do that, but still. Yes. I love it says high

01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:40.479
technology made for your Mac. Because your Mac's

01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:42.539
not made for high technology. No, not at all.

01:29:43.439 --> 01:29:46.439
And then from what I remember, it was reasonably.

01:29:47.529 --> 01:29:50.090
Yeah, reasonably priced, depending upon how many

01:29:50.090 --> 01:29:55.569
DMX channels you need. 256 channels is $79 for

01:29:55.569 --> 01:29:58.149
a year. It is subscription -based. That is the

01:29:58.149 --> 01:30:02.329
one caveat. Aren't there 512 in a universe? Yes,

01:30:02.350 --> 01:30:06.710
but you can start at 256. Okay. 512 is a full

01:30:06.710 --> 01:30:10.470
DMX universe. That's $119 a month, or a year.

01:30:11.950 --> 01:30:15.369
You could jump up to two universes at $1 ,024

01:30:15.369 --> 01:30:18.869
at $199 for the year, or you could jump up to

01:30:18.869 --> 01:30:26.590
a full 16 universes or 8 ,192 channels for $379

01:30:26.590 --> 01:30:30.229
for the year. Now, I don't know anybody that's

01:30:30.229 --> 01:30:31.829
running that many universes. Who's using that?

01:30:32.229 --> 01:30:34.710
Most people I know, it's one universe, period,

01:30:34.829 --> 01:30:36.829
end of discussion. Yeah, I think I've got two

01:30:36.829 --> 01:30:41.539
universes. Within a single venue? Yeah, because

01:30:41.539 --> 01:30:47.300
we use some movers that are on separate. That's

01:30:47.300 --> 01:30:52.659
true. We don't want, because we have four movers

01:30:52.659 --> 01:30:58.920
that are across the venue from each other. So

01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:03.300
it's not like we can pair them together. Yeah.

01:31:03.340 --> 01:31:08.520
And each of them has. a large number of channels.

01:31:09.260 --> 01:31:11.460
Yes. So that, that, that's fair that there are

01:31:11.460 --> 01:31:15.260
some lights that do have a high channel usage,

01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:17.680
which could require you to have multiple universes,

01:31:17.779 --> 01:31:21.760
depending on what you're doing. But for the huge

01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:25.079
majority of people, one universe cuts it. Yeah.

01:31:25.260 --> 01:31:29.220
If you're a, if you're a DJ, you're fine with

01:31:29.220 --> 01:31:32.979
one. Yeah. Which is what, like, honestly, a lot

01:31:32.979 --> 01:31:36.859
of these are, are set up for. I mean, you may

01:31:36.859 --> 01:31:40.659
be able to do, as a DJ, you may be able to do

01:31:40.659 --> 01:31:45.220
that half universe thing, which 256 or whatever

01:31:45.220 --> 01:31:49.399
it is. Yes. You look miserable. I am. I am. I'm

01:31:49.399 --> 01:31:52.819
not giving up. I do it for the show. I do it

01:31:52.819 --> 01:31:54.779
for the show. I do it for the show. The love

01:31:54.779 --> 01:31:59.260
of the show. We're sleeping here tonight, folks.

01:31:59.460 --> 01:32:04.899
Yeah, we are. How many bathrooms in this place?

01:32:05.859 --> 01:32:08.800
Two. You get a toilet, I get a toilet. Yeah.

01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:12.920
It's not so much about the alcohol level as it

01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:15.239
is the pain. No, it's the taste and the pain.

01:32:16.479 --> 01:32:21.859
From drinking this stuff. It just, it stays so

01:32:21.859 --> 01:32:29.460
long. Yes, it does. I just hear Bill Cosby in

01:32:29.460 --> 01:32:33.189
my head, hugging the toilet. Oh, thank you, Mr.

01:32:33.289 --> 01:32:40.090
Tor, for being so cool inside. That's Bill Cosby

01:32:40.090 --> 01:32:47.510
himself. Yeah. And, you know, so many quotes

01:32:47.510 --> 01:32:52.270
there. Oh, dad is great. Gives us the chocolate

01:32:52.270 --> 01:32:55.569
cake. And then when he's at the dentist, fiber.

01:32:56.310 --> 01:33:04.199
There's a fiber in my mouth. Yeah. And when he

01:33:04.199 --> 01:33:07.359
talks about his wife coming down and seeing that

01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:10.460
he's giving them chocolate cake. Yep. And then

01:33:10.460 --> 01:33:14.460
they turned on me. Dad, give us the chocolate

01:33:14.460 --> 01:33:22.260
cake. We didn't want it. It's classic. Classic

01:33:22.260 --> 01:33:29.279
Cosby. I kind of want to fall asleep right now.

01:33:30.699 --> 01:33:34.899
Not have to drink the rest of this. Next year,

01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:36.680
you pick the beers for the Thanksgiving show.

01:33:37.039 --> 01:33:40.939
I mean, it's going to be Newcastle. Newcastle

01:33:40.939 --> 01:33:42.819
all the way. We're going to be like, hey, remember

01:33:42.819 --> 01:33:47.859
how we talked about the brown ale being good

01:33:47.859 --> 01:33:50.880
for... Just across the board. Just across the

01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:53.359
board. Just do a brown ale for Thanksgiving.

01:33:54.079 --> 01:34:00.539
Don't, don't, don't. So for dessert... Stout

01:34:00.539 --> 01:34:03.560
is good. Yeah. Go get a stout that's not pumpkin

01:34:03.560 --> 01:34:05.460
flavored. That's not pumpkin. That's right. Because

01:34:05.460 --> 01:34:08.300
this is a stout. Pumpkin spice flavored. Yeah.

01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:13.180
So. How did the girls drink this? Is this what

01:34:13.180 --> 01:34:15.920
their coffee tastes like? I have no idea. Oh,

01:34:16.020 --> 01:34:19.079
it's disgusting. I don't drink coffee. But still.

01:34:19.619 --> 01:34:22.140
Yeah. If this is the pumpkin spice of a coffee.

01:34:22.979 --> 01:34:28.439
Yeah. So get a traditional stout. Even get a

01:34:28.439 --> 01:34:33.630
Belgian triple. Yeah. And certain Belgian quads.

01:34:34.449 --> 01:34:38.550
Certain Belgian quads. Yes. Don't get too carried

01:34:38.550 --> 01:34:41.270
away there. We've had some quads that were good,

01:34:41.329 --> 01:34:43.189
and we've had some quads that were like, ooh,

01:34:43.270 --> 01:34:49.289
that's pushing it. But yeah, get you a stout

01:34:49.289 --> 01:34:53.029
that is a little more like the breakfast stout.

01:34:53.050 --> 01:34:55.829
It's a little more chocolatey. I'm fine with

01:34:55.829 --> 01:34:57.710
that. Thank you, founders. Yeah. Where are you

01:34:57.710 --> 01:34:59.899
at tonight? You're not in this selection. Not

01:34:59.899 --> 01:35:04.100
in this selection. Boof. We should like be getting

01:35:04.100 --> 01:35:08.060
money from Fresh for enduring through the beers

01:35:08.060 --> 01:35:13.720
that they're selling. How dare you, sir? And

01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:16.359
who is choosing their beers? I don't know, but

01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:18.340
it's somebody who was like, this will be funny.

01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:22.819
Yeah, someone's going to buy this. So we can't

01:35:22.819 --> 01:35:28.859
like be a podcast in Tyler and. Be talking about

01:35:28.859 --> 01:35:31.460
Thanksgiving without talking about Greenberg

01:35:31.460 --> 01:35:34.520
Turkey. Oh, yeah. Greenberg is good. This is

01:35:34.520 --> 01:35:37.100
not a sponsorship. I just need to tell you. There's

01:35:37.100 --> 01:35:39.500
no sponsorships on this show. That's not what

01:35:39.500 --> 01:35:42.180
this is. If you've never heard of a Greenberg

01:35:42.180 --> 01:35:45.159
Turkey. You didn't watch Oprah. You didn't watch

01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:48.079
Oprah. Yeah. Or pay attention when George Bush

01:35:48.079 --> 01:35:53.640
was the president. Yeah. So just go to gobble

01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:57.710
gobble dot com. That's a great URL. Yeah. It

01:35:57.710 --> 01:36:04.550
really is. Gobblegobble .com. Greenberg turkey

01:36:04.550 --> 01:36:09.270
is in Tyler or is made in Tyler. And they do

01:36:09.270 --> 01:36:14.250
an amazing smoked turkey. They do. Now, this

01:36:14.250 --> 01:36:18.270
is growing up. This is what my cousin used to

01:36:18.270 --> 01:36:22.270
call cold turkey because we didn't eat Greenberg's

01:36:22.270 --> 01:36:26.600
heated up. Okay. Okay. There are people that

01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:29.000
will get a Greenberg ship to them and they will

01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:31.399
warm it up. Yeah. Because a Greenberg turkey,

01:36:31.539 --> 01:36:34.000
whenever it comes to you, is already cooked.

01:36:34.220 --> 01:36:36.979
It is. It's already smoked. You don't have to

01:36:36.979 --> 01:36:45.579
smoke it. Yep. But it is injected with this beautiful

01:36:45.579 --> 01:36:50.819
collection of spices. Yeah, but most of it's

01:36:50.819 --> 01:36:54.699
pepper. Yeah, yeah, fair. And it's so good. Yeah.

01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:59.239
But it's made here in Tyler, and you can choose

01:36:59.239 --> 01:37:01.779
your size based on what kind of crowd you're

01:37:01.779 --> 01:37:06.279
serving. I would suggest to add two to any number

01:37:06.279 --> 01:37:11.560
that they tell you it feeds. Or, sorry, subtract

01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:13.560
two from any number that they tell you it feeds.

01:37:13.619 --> 01:37:18.479
So if it says a five -pound turkey will feed

01:37:18.479 --> 01:37:21.770
10 to 15 people, yeah, that's eight people. Yeah.

01:37:22.510 --> 01:37:24.710
I don't, I mean, I don't, I don't want to be

01:37:24.710 --> 01:37:28.149
like, but when people start eating this, they're

01:37:28.149 --> 01:37:32.470
going to keep eating this. They are. So this

01:37:32.470 --> 01:37:34.970
is not only a great Turkey for Thanksgiving,

01:37:35.210 --> 01:37:40.569
it's a great Turkey for, um, after Thanksgiving

01:37:40.569 --> 01:37:45.750
sandwiches. Yeah. So good to just be eaten on

01:37:45.750 --> 01:37:48.210
a sandwich. I'm going to tell you, I don't know

01:37:48.210 --> 01:37:53.029
if you, I've told you this. The like pro tip

01:37:53.029 --> 01:37:56.329
here that not a lot of people know, even Tyler

01:37:56.329 --> 01:38:02.050
people. Okay. If you get a Greenberg turkey and

01:38:02.050 --> 01:38:08.170
slice it up real good. And then you dip it in

01:38:08.170 --> 01:38:11.850
a one sauce. Ooh, I've never done that. I'm not

01:38:11.850 --> 01:38:14.390
like, don't, don't go like I'm talking white

01:38:14.390 --> 01:38:17.750
label a one. Okay. Yeah. Like nothing. Don't

01:38:17.750 --> 01:38:22.039
get like a. If you taste it with the A1 sauce

01:38:22.039 --> 01:38:23.899
and you're like, I'd like a little bit of heat

01:38:23.899 --> 01:38:26.739
or I'd like whatever, yeah, you can move away

01:38:26.739 --> 01:38:29.479
from the white label. But I'm talking just normal

01:38:29.479 --> 01:38:36.779
A1 sauce. Okay. Just don't like ketchup this

01:38:36.779 --> 01:38:41.640
thing in A1, but put a little A1 on your plate.

01:38:41.819 --> 01:38:48.300
Wow. And you can... Jump between A1 and cranberry

01:38:48.300 --> 01:38:52.640
if you really want to. If you're like a cranberry

01:38:52.640 --> 01:38:56.659
fiend, then, you know, whatever. But even, okay,

01:38:56.739 --> 01:38:58.260
if you're a cranberry fiend, what I would say

01:38:58.260 --> 01:39:04.119
is with your turkey, like your Thanksgiving meal,

01:39:04.260 --> 01:39:09.020
you can do cranberry with the Greenberg turkey

01:39:09.020 --> 01:39:12.039
and be fine. It is delicious. I mean, it's so.

01:39:12.779 --> 01:39:16.880
Nice. How sweetly the smoked turkey goes with

01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:22.180
everything else. But when you have leftovers,

01:39:22.500 --> 01:39:29.760
just like grab a slice of this thing and dip

01:39:29.760 --> 01:39:32.579
it in some A1. Okay. I have to try that. And

01:39:32.579 --> 01:39:37.520
it will change your life. Okay. Will it change

01:39:37.520 --> 01:39:41.100
my life like this full grown Jack? In the opposite

01:39:41.100 --> 01:39:45.289
direction. You will want more of it, not less.

01:39:47.430 --> 01:39:51.510
That full -grown jack is making me want to throw

01:39:51.510 --> 01:39:55.130
something through a window. Did you finish? Almost.

01:39:55.810 --> 01:39:59.229
One more. I feel like I've got like half a can

01:39:59.229 --> 01:40:03.750
left. I don't know if I have it. It is so bad.

01:40:06.090 --> 01:40:09.069
We should have broken these up with the other

01:40:09.069 --> 01:40:13.949
beers. I had no idea what you had in store for

01:40:13.949 --> 01:40:18.250
me. Anyway, Greenberg smoked turkey. Just remember,

01:40:18.289 --> 01:40:21.090
I did this to myself, too. Yeah, you did. I didn't

01:40:21.090 --> 01:40:23.229
have anything to do with this. Greenberg smoked

01:40:23.229 --> 01:40:26.149
turkey will ship to you anywhere. Don't worry

01:40:26.149 --> 01:40:29.710
about that. If you go to the gobblegobble .com

01:40:29.710 --> 01:40:35.369
website, dadgummit, you finished. They'll explain

01:40:35.369 --> 01:40:38.229
to you how it's shipped to you and that you don't

01:40:38.229 --> 01:40:40.409
need to cook it. But if you do want to warm it

01:40:40.409 --> 01:40:43.170
up, that you can do that. It's just warming it

01:40:43.170 --> 01:40:46.569
up, though. It's not actually cooking it. It's

01:40:46.569 --> 01:40:51.890
already cooked. And I would say, like, there

01:40:51.890 --> 01:40:54.369
was a while there where there was like, nope,

01:40:54.430 --> 01:40:57.789
everything's unavailable. Okay, never mind. You're

01:40:57.789 --> 01:41:00.189
out of luck this year if you wanted a Greenberg

01:41:00.189 --> 01:41:02.939
turkey. Yeah. Unless you're in Tyler, it can

01:41:02.939 --> 01:41:05.539
go to one of the stores that still has it in

01:41:05.539 --> 01:41:09.380
stock. Because I think fresh, like Berkshires.

01:41:09.819 --> 01:41:12.079
Fresh and Berkshires, yeah, for sure. And Super

01:41:12.079 --> 01:41:14.920
Ones. Every once in a while. Well, not every

01:41:14.920 --> 01:41:18.159
once in a while. If they still have them, they're

01:41:18.159 --> 01:41:23.199
available. But they might be gone already. I

01:41:23.199 --> 01:41:27.279
totally shouldn't have drank that. Yeah, what

01:41:27.279 --> 01:41:29.939
are you... Oh, the thing to do for the show.

01:41:35.819 --> 01:41:39.300
The rest of the show will be a groaning episode

01:41:39.300 --> 01:41:44.859
where we'll just be saying into the microphone

01:41:44.859 --> 01:41:49.260
how sorry we are for the decisions we've made.

01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:55.680
Please don't drink these. I cannot recommend.

01:41:56.880 --> 01:42:00.720
No, I can recommend Dogfish and Tups, Pumpkin,

01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:03.399
or Full Grown Jack. I'm sorry, Dogfish Head,

01:42:03.479 --> 01:42:09.560
but your Pumpkin L, oh, and it's, oh, the Tups

01:42:09.560 --> 01:42:19.100
is somehow even worse. Oh, boy. So Doghead is

01:42:19.100 --> 01:42:25.520
7%. Full Grown Jack is 12%. Oh. We're supposed

01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:28.539
to lead with the 12, not end with the 12. Well,

01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:31.920
I would say, regardless of where it's supposed

01:42:31.920 --> 01:42:36.060
to be in this list of things, it's disgusting.

01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:39.560
I think we've kind of dispelled the third beer

01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:44.760
phenomenon. It's so bad. Because generally, by

01:42:44.760 --> 01:42:50.239
the third beer, you don't care. Fourth beer,

01:42:50.439 --> 01:42:54.810
hate it. Fourth beer, you care, apparently. Oh,

01:42:54.810 --> 01:43:02.789
the blonde was five and a half. And what's Jeremiah?

01:43:04.609 --> 01:43:10.750
I would get 4 .5. 4 .5. Where are you seeing

01:43:10.750 --> 01:43:13.430
that on the can? I'm not, but that's my guess.

01:43:15.229 --> 01:43:25.490
12 ounce. Hey -oh. Good save. Good save. Kick

01:43:25.490 --> 01:43:32.229
save and a beaut. There it is. Oh, it's 7 .3.

01:43:32.909 --> 01:43:34.909
Okay, so we've dropped a few here. We dropped

01:43:34.909 --> 01:43:38.890
a 7, we dropped a 5, we dropped a 7, and we dropped

01:43:38.890 --> 01:43:45.149
a 12. That's a lot. I was not expecting Jeremiah

01:43:45.149 --> 01:43:48.510
to be a 7. I wasn't either. It drinks more like

01:43:48.510 --> 01:43:57.100
a 5. It's very smooth. Tups. Tups, you're killing

01:43:57.100 --> 01:44:01.720
me there. Full -grown Jack. Jack, yes, Jack.

01:44:02.960 --> 01:44:05.880
It doesn't drink like a 12 .1. It drinks like

01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:09.899
a four because you're not going to finish it.

01:44:11.880 --> 01:44:15.979
So what does it mean that I finished it? That

01:44:15.979 --> 01:44:18.600
I'm a glutton for punishment? I mean, I'm not

01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:22.560
finishing this. I'm proud of myself for finishing

01:44:22.560 --> 01:44:26.819
the dogfish. Like, this is so bad. Yeah, the

01:44:26.819 --> 01:44:29.579
tubs makes the dogfish seem really, really good.

01:44:30.460 --> 01:44:35.560
Yikes. I've never had a pumpkin anything coffee

01:44:35.560 --> 01:44:37.960
because I don't drink coffee. Yeah, no, neither.

01:44:38.079 --> 01:44:43.119
Well, I drink. Okay, let's be honest. I don't

01:44:43.119 --> 01:44:46.260
drink coffee. I don't drink coffee. I drink caffeinated

01:44:46.260 --> 01:44:51.590
chocolate milk. Fair. That's true. There's chocolate

01:44:51.590 --> 01:44:54.489
milk and it's got some caffeine put into it.

01:44:55.130 --> 01:45:00.409
Yeah. I developed this taste from kissing my

01:45:00.409 --> 01:45:06.529
wife who loves coffee. Okay. But I love chocolate.

01:45:06.649 --> 01:45:09.829
Remember, this is a child friendly podcast. I'm

01:45:09.829 --> 01:45:13.489
not telling you how I kissed her. But what was

01:45:13.489 --> 01:45:17.250
the Sandlot quote? I kissed her long and I kissed

01:45:17.250 --> 01:45:20.479
her good. Was that it? No, I can't remember.

01:45:22.260 --> 01:45:27.199
Watch Sandlot in time. Dang. What we're not doing

01:45:27.199 --> 01:45:32.720
is drinking any more of that. No. So if you enjoyed

01:45:32.720 --> 01:45:37.760
this... If you enjoyed the messicus listening

01:45:37.760 --> 01:45:42.800
to this show, send us an email. Beerandgearpodcast

01:45:42.800 --> 01:45:46.069
at gmail .com. And if you have any recommendations

01:45:46.069 --> 01:45:49.890
for a Christmas show. It better not be pumpkin

01:45:49.890 --> 01:45:53.189
spice. No, no, no pumpkin. No, what comes to

01:45:53.189 --> 01:45:57.569
mind is St. Bernardus. They make a Christmas

01:45:57.569 --> 01:46:02.449
ale. In fact, I think I had that one on one of

01:46:02.449 --> 01:46:05.050
the solo shows that I did around Christmas of

01:46:05.050 --> 01:46:09.449
last year. Last year. It was not too bad. You

01:46:09.449 --> 01:46:12.529
did the solo show last year. All the different

01:46:12.529 --> 01:46:18.220
mics, I believe. Yeah. Okay, well, we're going

01:46:18.220 --> 01:46:24.319
to go now so that I can vomit. Yes. Did you bring

01:46:24.319 --> 01:46:29.260
the Ipecac with you? Yeah. Always good to talk

01:46:29.260 --> 01:46:31.880
to you, Chris. Yeah, good to talk, but not good

01:46:31.880 --> 01:46:35.920
for some of these drinks. Bruh. Bruh. Hopefully

01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:41.079
you got some good content out of this show. Man,

01:46:41.079 --> 01:46:43.340
I hope so. Besides us complaining about beer.

01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:49.060
So bad. Oh, and I have one question. Yeah. Are

01:46:49.060 --> 01:46:54.859
those channels muted? Yeah. So are you saying

01:46:54.859 --> 01:46:57.779
the whole show didn't get recorded? Our channels

01:46:57.779 --> 01:47:00.859
are not muted. Because from my angle, they look

01:47:00.859 --> 01:47:03.199
muted. Yeah, just the ones that aren't being

01:47:03.199 --> 01:47:05.939
used. Sorry about that, bud. I didn't mean to

01:47:05.939 --> 01:47:07.239
freak you out. Because I'm sitting there looking

01:47:07.239 --> 01:47:09.159
at that and going, we just did this whole show

01:47:09.159 --> 01:47:11.220
and it looks like it's going to be there. Okay,

01:47:11.260 --> 01:47:12.500
there you go. That's what it's like when you're

01:47:12.500 --> 01:47:15.909
muted. Yeah, so now that one does look. This

01:47:15.909 --> 01:47:17.710
is what it sounds like when I'm muted. Okay.

01:47:17.829 --> 01:47:19.470
All right. I'm just sitting there going, don't

01:47:19.470 --> 01:47:22.529
tell me I endured all that for nothing. We didn't

01:47:22.529 --> 01:47:24.210
get any of that. We're going to have to do the

01:47:24.210 --> 01:47:27.710
show again. Oh, no. No, I'm not drinking those

01:47:27.710 --> 01:47:31.130
again. All right. Well. All right. Well, happy

01:47:31.130 --> 01:47:33.130
Thanksgiving, everybody. Happy Thanksgiving.

01:47:34.149 --> 01:47:37.470
Maybe. No guarantees. Maybe I'll get this out

01:47:37.470 --> 01:47:40.409
before Thanksgiving. If you do, congratulations.

01:47:41.090 --> 01:47:44.909
Yeah. Don't hold me to it. Totally get it. All

01:47:44.909 --> 01:47:46.670
right. Good to talk to you. Yeah, good to talk

01:47:46.670 --> 01:48:09.010
to you, John. See you, everybody. See you. By

01:48:09.010 --> 01:48:12.369
golly, another winner. If you did not like this,

01:48:12.529 --> 01:48:14.199
then. You are nuts.