WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.980 are you recording or am i i am if you want to 00:00:02.980 --> 00:00:05.459 record as a backup that works oh yeah i should 00:00:05.459 --> 00:00:07.940 probably do that you're right all right here 00:00:07.940 --> 00:00:44.189 we go one two three hit it Hey, Chris. Hey, John. 00:00:44.270 --> 00:00:47.210 How are you, man? I'm doing good. It's good to 00:00:47.210 --> 00:00:48.969 see your face. Yeah, good to see you again as 00:00:48.969 --> 00:00:54.950 well. Remote lit. Yep. That was exciting. Yeah, 00:00:54.950 --> 00:00:57.369 well, something chirped or cut or whatever that 00:00:57.369 --> 00:00:59.490 was. Yeah, I don't know what that, don't touch 00:00:59.490 --> 00:01:04.810 it anymore. Yes. So, I guess what you were, what 00:01:04.810 --> 00:01:07.349 we've seen a little bit. Man, that high pitch 00:01:07.349 --> 00:01:11.159 is just killing me. It's really bad. Oh, the 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:16.680 joys of being mobile. I think maybe we can fix 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:19.420 that in post. So if you don't hear the high pitch, 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:26.500 just... It's a stupid fan. I just can't get it 00:01:26.500 --> 00:01:33.680 to stop. Maybe I need to move my... Well, but 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:35.659 if I move my computer, then I don't have my screens 00:01:35.659 --> 00:01:37.359 to look at for what we're going to talk about. 00:01:38.060 --> 00:01:46.780 Oh, no. The joys of technology. I mean, there's 00:01:46.780 --> 00:01:50.879 always something. I really thought stopping those 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:53.480 updates was going to quiet it down, but not so 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:56.480 much. In and out like nobody's business. Yep. 00:01:56.659 --> 00:01:59.379 There's a scratch, scratch, and then nothing, 00:01:59.420 --> 00:02:04.640 and then scratch, scratch, and then... We're 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:06.579 going to get an award for the audio of this show. 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:15.780 Yeah, no, I don't think so. We also are not going 00:02:15.780 --> 00:02:19.360 to get an award for having the best beer on this 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:23.240 show. Yeah. Yeah. My location kind of put a little 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:29.080 bit of a kibosh on that. Oh my gosh. What was 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:33.240 that one? You just cut out and came back in and 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:36.639 then cut out again. Okay. Like you're hearing 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:39.560 yourself and I'm not hearing you at all. Yeah. 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:44.610 I hear myself the whole time. So if you can hear 00:02:44.610 --> 00:02:47.550 you and you're the recording, then it doesn't 00:02:47.550 --> 00:02:50.229 matter if I can hear you, right? Correct. As 00:02:50.229 --> 00:02:53.710 long as my recording is good. Oh, gosh. So there's 00:02:53.710 --> 00:03:01.430 that. So we'll see. I can always let you know 00:03:01.430 --> 00:03:03.550 what my recording sounds like and let you know 00:03:03.550 --> 00:03:06.289 if I need yours. Well, you're not going to want 00:03:06.289 --> 00:03:09.610 mine. Well, that depends on how bad mine sounds. 00:03:10.030 --> 00:03:14.419 I guess that's true. Fans are starting to quiet 00:03:14.419 --> 00:03:18.560 some. Yeah, that's not as bad. Okay. Just took 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:24.180 forever. Yeah. This, folks, is why you want a 00:03:24.180 --> 00:03:30.060 device that you can choose when it's up. Snap, 00:03:30.060 --> 00:03:34.379 crackle, pop. Yeah. Was that me? Did I snap, 00:03:34.419 --> 00:03:37.840 crackle, pop? It was on my end from you. Yeah, 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:41.979 I think it's just this call me thing is going 00:03:41.979 --> 00:03:45.349 in and out. It's something. It's something. And 00:03:45.349 --> 00:03:48.330 we've only done one other show with it. Yeah, 00:03:48.370 --> 00:03:50.590 but, you know, you didn't do the firmware update, 00:03:50.729 --> 00:03:53.210 so I'm going to blame you. No, I'm blaming you 00:03:53.210 --> 00:03:55.310 because you did the firmware update. You never 00:03:55.310 --> 00:03:58.849 update before the show. Update before the show. 00:04:00.509 --> 00:04:05.569 Just, it could go badly. Yeah, well, we can. 00:04:05.909 --> 00:04:07.969 And if we feel like this one's too bad, I guess 00:04:07.969 --> 00:04:13.919 we will punt and redo. Awesome. There's always 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:20.120 Monday. Okay. So before we jump into the thing 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:22.160 that we're actually going to talk about, we don't 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:24.720 have a beer to talk about today. True. I did 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:28.180 want to say that right, or not right after, but 00:04:28.180 --> 00:04:36.939 after we, and then before the show, Road released 00:04:36.939 --> 00:04:42.399 a new hotness. Oh, did they? Did you hear about 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:46.180 this? No. Sorry, they haven't released it. Technically, 00:04:46.180 --> 00:04:49.779 they haven't released it yet. So there's that. 00:04:49.980 --> 00:04:54.160 Is it on their site? Yes. Okay. You're going 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:58.660 to go to their site and go to RODECasterVideoS. 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:06.720 Oh. That looks like a little guy. Yeah, it's 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:11.569 a little guy, and it's half the price. Oh. So 00:05:11.569 --> 00:05:15.829 it's basically the RODECaster Duo version of 00:05:15.829 --> 00:05:19.269 the RODECaster video. Yeah. But here's the fun 00:05:19.269 --> 00:05:24.769 part, Chris. I mean, I know that this isn't actually 00:05:24.769 --> 00:05:27.170 that exciting to you because you don't want to 00:05:27.170 --> 00:05:30.269 do video. But for people that want to do video 00:05:30.269 --> 00:05:33.449 and already have a RODECaster Duo or something 00:05:33.449 --> 00:05:38.300 like that, you can... I think three HDMI inputs. 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:40.259 Yeah, that's what I'm looking at. And then you 00:05:40.259 --> 00:05:51.019 can also use the USB -C. Look at that. Thank 00:05:51.019 --> 00:05:54.899 you, Apple. What? Your camera's jumping around. 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:59.959 No, that's Insta360. I gave it a sign that it 00:05:59.959 --> 00:06:03.519 thinks means something. So that's pretty fun. 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:07.069 Oh. I don't know. What just happened there? Stop. 00:06:07.230 --> 00:06:14.209 What is that? That's like a zoom out. It's like 00:06:14.209 --> 00:06:18.290 a, it's not, but it looks like a QR code. Um, 00:06:18.290 --> 00:06:24.009 yeah, that's, that's pretty crazy. I'm going 00:06:24.009 --> 00:06:29.329 to fix that while we're talking. Um, so the road 00:06:29.329 --> 00:06:34.850 caster, uh, video or the, is that what it's called? 00:06:35.259 --> 00:06:39.939 Yeah, RODECaster Video S. It's the simplified 00:06:39.939 --> 00:06:45.540 version of the RODECaster Video. I mean, I have 00:06:45.540 --> 00:06:54.379 to admit this has me intrigued. Because you still 00:06:54.379 --> 00:07:00.779 have two XLR combo. So if you had somebody else 00:07:00.779 --> 00:07:04.160 with you, you could still. Get that in. And I 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.459 suspect that you could probably do the wireless 00:07:06.459 --> 00:07:10.100 link as well. Unless they've cut that out of 00:07:10.100 --> 00:07:12.560 this model. Yeah, you can do the wireless mic 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:14.920 with it. And in fact, I think it's got two wireless 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:19.379 mic. Like you can do two different wireless mics 00:07:19.379 --> 00:07:23.819 to it. But the real kicker, at least in my mind, 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:28.540 is that if you've got a... or Rodecaster Duo, 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:32.319 you can connect it to it as that's the audio 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:35.899 inputs and then use the rest of it. Oh, now we've 00:07:35.899 --> 00:07:38.160 got an extreme close -up of the part of your 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:46.439 hat. Yeah. I'm going to get it fixed, I promise. 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:49.519 I'm just not working on it. I mean, this is a 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:53.579 very intriguing piece of hardware. I mean, yeah, 00:07:53.620 --> 00:07:56.910 I'm not necessarily... Chomping at the bit for 00:07:56.910 --> 00:08:02.689 video, but for $499, it does everything that 00:08:02.689 --> 00:08:07.009 my RODECaster does, plus all the video. And the 00:08:07.009 --> 00:08:09.069 fact that you could have up to three cameras, 00:08:09.170 --> 00:08:15.610 you've got one HDMI out, and then you've got 00:08:15.610 --> 00:08:27.810 four USB -C. Yeah. Two of them labeled computer, 00:08:28.089 --> 00:08:30.970 which is basically what my Rodecaster can do. 00:08:31.629 --> 00:08:35.870 I've got three that has just the USB symbol on 00:08:35.870 --> 00:08:39.529 it. And then four says mic. And is that like 00:08:39.529 --> 00:08:43.169 a camera symbol? Mm -hmm. That's the camera. 00:08:43.470 --> 00:08:46.049 So you could do like a USB -C camera. So you 00:08:46.049 --> 00:08:54.210 could drive up to at least four into this. And 00:08:54.210 --> 00:08:58.059 it's all power. PD 45 watts. So depending upon 00:08:58.059 --> 00:09:01.980 the computer, you could just plug right in and 00:09:01.980 --> 00:09:12.460 go off a computer for power. Yes. So I'm finding 00:09:12.460 --> 00:09:23.460 this intriguing. Now I have to convince myself 00:09:23.460 --> 00:09:30.580 to drop 500 bucks. I mean, it's one of those 00:09:30.580 --> 00:09:33.419 things. Because the hoarder slash collector in 00:09:33.419 --> 00:09:36.460 me doesn't necessarily want to get rid of the 00:09:36.460 --> 00:09:41.899 road caster. Yeah, no, I think it's a very specific, 00:09:42.100 --> 00:09:45.960 like, yes, I do think, like, if anything else, 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:51.220 like my road caster duo over here, it's going 00:09:51.220 --> 00:09:55.379 to do some and then whatever. But I really do 00:09:55.379 --> 00:09:58.220 think that this is. this is in my mind, a perfect 00:09:58.220 --> 00:10:01.779 supplement where I didn't want to go full roadcaster 00:10:01.779 --> 00:10:04.879 video because it's too much for what I already 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:06.840 have and what I'm going to use it for. And crazy 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:11.539 expensive. Yeah. The, the $500, which again, 00:10:11.620 --> 00:10:13.779 I understand that's still a lot of money, but 00:10:13.779 --> 00:10:17.019 it's not a thousand dollars. Yeah. So $500 add 00:10:17.019 --> 00:10:20.940 on if you want to do stuff, if you want to maybe 00:10:20.940 --> 00:10:24.759 video an interview for. or whatever it is like 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:27.159 this is a, this is a great and still mobile. 00:10:27.299 --> 00:10:32.480 It's so small. Um, I just, I think it's a, I 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:38.279 think it's like, uh, I think maybe I, I, I understand 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:44.039 why they did the, um, video first and then the 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:46.360 video S this is kind of the opposite of how they 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:51.899 did the, um, magic did, uh, or they did a Tim 00:10:51.899 --> 00:10:54.029 many, Well, they did the big ATEMs, but like 00:10:54.029 --> 00:11:00.169 the ATEM minis that they've made, they made the 00:11:00.169 --> 00:11:02.210 smaller ones first and then they showed you like 00:11:02.210 --> 00:11:04.230 the eight channel big ones because of what was 00:11:04.230 --> 00:11:06.970 being asked for. This feels like the opposite 00:11:06.970 --> 00:11:09.370 where they were like, we're going to make a smaller 00:11:09.370 --> 00:11:10.769 version of this, but we're not going to tell 00:11:10.769 --> 00:11:18.629 anybody yet. Yeah. Anyway. So I guess on like 00:11:18.629 --> 00:11:22.899 what we do, you'd have to do a lot. On the software 00:11:22.899 --> 00:11:26.259 side. Cause there, cause there's no, there's 00:11:26.259 --> 00:11:28.019 no physical fader. So everything is going to 00:11:28.019 --> 00:11:30.820 be in software. Like we were trying to make adjustments 00:11:30.820 --> 00:11:37.120 prior to the show. Um, there, there's a lot that 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.639 can be done and, and I didn't really know this 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:44.940 about the other video. Um, it, a lot of like 00:11:44.940 --> 00:11:48.379 the, the, a lot of how it is based, based on 00:11:48.379 --> 00:11:54.659 its number pad is not so much. Like really they 00:11:54.659 --> 00:11:57.279 want you to do it with scenes where those are 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:59.659 seen, like, like you push the button and it takes 00:11:59.659 --> 00:12:02.399 you, like it sets up a scene or you set up a 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:04.899 scene beforehand. And then, you know, this is 00:12:04.899 --> 00:12:07.639 going to be this cut to this and cut to this. 00:12:08.460 --> 00:12:15.139 And so that, that seemed like an interesting 00:12:15.139 --> 00:12:20.289 way to handle that. And all that software, you 00:12:20.289 --> 00:12:23.690 set all of that up beforehand software. Yeah. 00:12:23.730 --> 00:12:28.149 I was trying to see which, is it a specific program 00:12:28.149 --> 00:12:32.210 or is it still the same thing that you would 00:12:32.210 --> 00:12:36.830 use with the, with the road caster? Um, I think 00:12:36.830 --> 00:12:50.210 it's a specific, hold on. Where did I see this? 00:12:50.570 --> 00:12:52.830 This is the problem with doing all this research 00:12:52.830 --> 00:12:58.230 beforehand and then not taking screenshots. I 00:12:58.230 --> 00:13:01.389 love that. One of the things that you can click 00:13:01.389 --> 00:13:07.009 on is, what's in the box? No, it's just the RODECaster 00:13:07.009 --> 00:13:11.230 app. Okay. So they are kind of keeping that as 00:13:11.230 --> 00:13:14.990 the Swiss Army knife of all their hardware. I 00:13:14.990 --> 00:13:20.539 will tell you, it's not the... Did they change 00:13:20.539 --> 00:13:29.919 the emblem? Not emblem. Icon roadcaster app because 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:32.240 that's not what I remember it being. But when 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:34.379 I look at their like what they're showing on 00:13:34.379 --> 00:13:37.240 the screen, it's the roadcaster app. Yeah, I 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:42.139 think they did a change recently. It's like it 00:13:42.139 --> 00:13:47.299 says hard and then like a backwards D. Like background 00:13:47.299 --> 00:13:55.039 black. Yeah. Anyway. That's weird. I like the 00:13:55.039 --> 00:14:00.799 other one better. I like the... Whatever that 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:06.019 is. You weren't in the focus group. I was not. 00:14:06.980 --> 00:14:09.820 I should be in so many focus groups, but they 00:14:09.820 --> 00:14:13.960 don't invite me. I'm not... I have to admit that 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:20.360 this... I find this intriguing. Yeah. Um, of 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.700 course, ultimately if we were apart, we've each 00:14:24.700 --> 00:14:30.179 got to have one. That's true. So, but if we were 00:14:30.179 --> 00:14:32.519 doing stuff, so here, here's, I think I would 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:36.440 do this, um, with two of them. I think I would 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:38.299 probably like, you know, you're, you're calling 00:14:38.299 --> 00:14:40.879 in with your, that's an interesting question. 00:14:41.019 --> 00:14:46.090 Um, can you do a call me into a road video? Yeah, 00:14:46.090 --> 00:14:49.169 so, yeah, I have lots of questions. Now, what 00:14:49.169 --> 00:14:51.429 would be intriguing with this, not saying... 00:14:51.429 --> 00:14:53.909 Fine, I'll buy it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 00:14:53.909 --> 00:14:58.230 no, no, no. I guess kind of just where my brain's 00:14:58.230 --> 00:15:02.409 already going is when we are face -to -face, 00:15:02.490 --> 00:15:05.509 we're using the church's Rodecaster, and we're 00:15:05.509 --> 00:15:06.929 just kind of like, eh, we don't want to mess 00:15:06.929 --> 00:15:11.789 with stuff. But if one of us had this, we could 00:15:11.789 --> 00:15:13.750 bring it because it's so easy, it's so portable, 00:15:13.889 --> 00:15:17.529 it's so easy. You just plug in your mic, plug 00:15:17.529 --> 00:15:22.110 in your headphone. You can have all of our specific 00:15:22.110 --> 00:15:26.470 configuration in this. Right. And then you're 00:15:26.470 --> 00:15:28.429 good to go. And then when you're done with the 00:15:28.429 --> 00:15:31.009 show, you just plug the headphones back in, you 00:15:31.009 --> 00:15:34.190 plug the mics back in, and you didn't mess with 00:15:34.190 --> 00:15:36.210 any settings on the RODECaster. We're not jumping, 00:15:36.230 --> 00:15:38.470 but I realize on the RODECaster, you can set 00:15:38.470 --> 00:15:43.009 up different shows. But in trying to be, you 00:15:43.009 --> 00:15:47.500 know, the way my brain goes in to be fair to 00:15:47.500 --> 00:15:50.980 the church, let's not mess with their stuff for 00:15:50.980 --> 00:15:54.960 what we're doing for personal. Right. Um, so, 00:15:55.059 --> 00:15:58.080 but yeah, I mean, I find, I find this intriguing 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:04.679 in maybe almost wanting to let go of $500 that 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:09.659 I don't have just to, just to play around. Yeah. 00:16:10.059 --> 00:16:12.620 Yeah. I'm sitting here going, okay, so how, Quickly, 00:16:12.700 --> 00:16:14.320 can they hurry up and get me the money for my 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:20.340 car? Because that's technically free money. That's 00:16:20.340 --> 00:16:22.220 free money. And speaking of that, I gave you 00:16:22.220 --> 00:16:25.159 the update on that, didn't I? No. Oh, well, let 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:26.519 me give you an update and everybody else can 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:30.120 listen along as well. So, you know, it was June 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:35.500 3rd of 24, right? Yeah, because this past June 00:16:35.500 --> 00:16:40.539 was a year. So, June of 24 got hit on the side 00:16:40.539 --> 00:16:46.129 gently. By an 18 -wheeler. We were at the finish 00:16:46.129 --> 00:16:50.629 line finally after all this time. To my knowledge, 00:16:50.669 --> 00:16:52.990 I'm not breaking any rules. A lawyer didn't say, 00:16:53.090 --> 00:16:58.450 hey, don't talk to anybody. So here we go. They're 00:16:58.450 --> 00:17:03.029 going to give me $9 ,000 for the car. What I 00:17:03.029 --> 00:17:06.190 don't know is that $9 ,000 and they get the car 00:17:06.190 --> 00:17:09.769 physically type of total out thing or $9 ,000 00:17:09.769 --> 00:17:13.640 and I keep the car. So I'm waiting for that one 00:17:13.640 --> 00:17:18.279 piece to be confirmed. But then they got the 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:26.900 medical to $25 ,000. So in the end, that means 00:17:26.900 --> 00:17:28.880 that I would keep something in the ballpark of 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:31.400 $11 ,000 of medical, plus I'd have the nine for 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:34.420 the car. So I would get $20 ,000 in the end, 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:40.799 which is amazing. To keep the car. Yeah, it only 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:44.359 took a... A gentle rub, so to speak, from an 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:47.480 18 -wheeler. Your duct tape door on the back. 00:17:47.819 --> 00:17:50.000 Yes. So that's why I say, I'm like, can they 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:51.920 hurry up with the money for the car? Because 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:55.039 they hurry up and get that to me by the end of 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:58.460 the year. Maybe I can convince myself to let 00:17:58.460 --> 00:18:02.539 go of 500 bucks. Not bad. Of technically free 00:18:02.539 --> 00:18:06.619 money. Yeah. All you had to do was get hit by 00:18:06.619 --> 00:18:09.880 an 18 -wheeler. And wait a year and a half. Yeah. 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:17.309 Patience. This is a really intriguing piece of 00:18:17.309 --> 00:18:21.210 hardware. I think so. And I do think it gives 00:18:21.210 --> 00:18:25.789 us kind of a look into what they're thinking. 00:18:27.069 --> 00:18:30.549 It makes me, now where I'm kind of going in the 00:18:30.549 --> 00:18:33.970 future with this, is when they release a different 00:18:33.970 --> 00:18:38.849 piece of hardware, now I find myself going, wait, 00:18:38.990 --> 00:18:41.569 they're going to make a smaller, more affordable 00:18:41.569 --> 00:18:47.700 version. I mean, maybe. Because, I mean, they've 00:18:47.700 --> 00:18:51.400 done it with the RODECaster, and now they've 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:54.960 done it with the caster video. I don't know what 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:57.579 other piece of hardware they would potentially 00:18:57.579 --> 00:19:05.660 make, but you never know. No, you don't. And 00:19:05.660 --> 00:19:09.140 your camera is following you much better now. 00:19:10.420 --> 00:19:20.400 Yes. I had to open up the... I don't know which 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:24.420 hand signal I did, but it was unintentional. 00:19:24.420 --> 00:19:30.940 Don't do that. You never know. Yeah. All right. 00:19:30.980 --> 00:19:33.220 Well, this is an intriguing piece of hardware. 00:19:34.460 --> 00:19:37.200 I'm glad you think so. I was not sure if that 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:41.880 would actually pique your interest or not. I 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:45.900 mean, it does. I mean, it's one of the ones that... 00:19:47.210 --> 00:19:50.349 More towards the video side of it, or at least 00:19:50.349 --> 00:19:55.250 the being able to do video. Yeah. Side of it. 00:19:55.349 --> 00:19:59.589 So also I did, I did actually get another piece 00:19:59.589 --> 00:20:01.670 of gear that we'll talk about on another show. 00:20:01.690 --> 00:20:05.970 I've actually had a time to mess with them, but 00:20:05.970 --> 00:20:12.490 I got the road micros. Okay. The micro wireless 00:20:12.490 --> 00:20:18.369 or whatever. Yeah. So. Fancy. This is Randy. 00:20:19.890 --> 00:20:22.250 I've already used it, plugged the little thing 00:20:22.250 --> 00:20:27.910 into my phone, and then just me and another person 00:20:27.910 --> 00:20:31.029 were talking, and I got it all recorded and didn't 00:20:31.029 --> 00:20:33.710 have to have another piece of gear there with 00:20:33.710 --> 00:20:39.670 me for it. So it was real fast, and I think I 00:20:39.670 --> 00:20:43.289 got this for straight up $100. Yeah, that's what 00:20:43.289 --> 00:20:45.369 I was looking at to see what the price was real 00:20:45.369 --> 00:20:51.039 quick. You can get one that has the camera attachment 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:56.740 as well, and that's like $130 or $100 -something. 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.680 But this one with just the two microphones and 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:06.779 then the dongle, wireless dongle for your phone, 00:21:07.019 --> 00:21:13.019 that's $100. I think that's a great price for 00:21:13.019 --> 00:21:17.000 something like this. Yeah, and you can apparently 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:25.039 pick your colors. Yeah, they've got black, white, 00:21:25.099 --> 00:21:31.180 orange, red, and blue. I get it. There's times 00:21:31.180 --> 00:21:33.000 where you may want white so that it disappears 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:37.400 more into a white shirt if you're recording people 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:40.059 a lot that wear white or something like that. 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:43.940 At no point is, like, the blue that they have 00:21:43.940 --> 00:21:46.500 on there going to be hidden. Like, that's so 00:21:46.500 --> 00:21:49.099 people see it. Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel 00:21:49.099 --> 00:21:51.420 about the blue. And the red just screams, look 00:21:51.420 --> 00:22:05.119 at me. And that orange is more like a UT, maybe 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:08.779 Tennessee orange. I mean, it's bright. Probably 00:22:08.779 --> 00:22:11.500 Tennessee. It is so bright. It's not burnt enough 00:22:11.500 --> 00:22:16.259 to be. Yeah. Sitting there going, if you got 00:22:16.259 --> 00:22:18.859 the right color orange, you had me thinking bears. 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.700 You may have had my attention. Nope, they didn't 00:22:21.700 --> 00:22:29.700 do that. That's okay. Interesting. Well, two 00:22:29.700 --> 00:22:33.460 fun pieces of hardware in one show. The Australia 00:22:33.460 --> 00:22:37.400 road people are not anywhere close to Chicago. 00:22:37.940 --> 00:22:43.009 No, no, they're not. Okay, so let's get into 00:22:43.009 --> 00:22:45.509 actually what we talked about talking about. 00:22:45.630 --> 00:22:54.369 Yeah. Computer. Yes. Hello, computer. So we've 00:22:54.369 --> 00:22:57.750 talked a little bit about this before. We actually 00:22:57.750 --> 00:23:02.789 talked more about this, but it feels like there's 00:23:02.789 --> 00:23:05.910 been some changes in it, and I'm looking at it 00:23:05.910 --> 00:23:11.180 through a different lens now. Remote support. 00:23:12.619 --> 00:23:17.440 What are your thoughts, Chris? I mean, it's incredibly 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:22.380 useful. You know, currently we use the flavor 00:23:22.380 --> 00:23:26.019 that's baked into JumpCloud. Now, when it first 00:23:26.019 --> 00:23:29.279 came out and they labeled it beta, they weren't 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:33.299 lying. It was very beta. It was a nightmare and 00:23:33.299 --> 00:23:38.180 very unreliable. But then they... kind of ironed 00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:40.519 it all out and once it went to a live product 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:44.039 it's been huge you know we can do unattended 00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:46.599 which is nice you don't necessarily have to be 00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:50.920 at the computer or you could have them be there 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:54.019 and then send them the code and and then you're 00:23:54.019 --> 00:23:59.539 in the biggest thing that you deal with is having 00:23:59.539 --> 00:24:04.180 some of the elevated privileges you know as much 00:24:04.180 --> 00:24:08.220 as Apple used to be on Microsoft for that in 00:24:08.220 --> 00:24:11.920 the days of Vista. Apple is just as bad now. 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:15.539 So you've got to work around some of that. And 00:24:15.539 --> 00:24:20.920 then also Apple, even though it gets pushed via 00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:26.579 MDM, you still have to manually allow one of 00:24:26.579 --> 00:24:31.359 the pieces of the remote management or it won't 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:35.609 work. just drives me insane. I think it was, 00:24:35.609 --> 00:24:41.769 was it Sonoma where they did a security? I think 00:24:41.769 --> 00:24:45.089 it was Sonoma where they did a security change 00:24:45.089 --> 00:24:49.430 and introduced that little quirk. But prior to 00:24:49.430 --> 00:24:52.250 that, because it pushed via MDM, you didn't have 00:24:52.250 --> 00:24:56.089 to worry about it. But now you've got to do that. 00:24:56.170 --> 00:24:58.970 So when we're getting somebody set up on a new 00:24:58.970 --> 00:25:02.190 machine, we've got to make sure, hey, go, go. 00:25:02.829 --> 00:25:04.450 Now, what they do is they're able to give you 00:25:04.450 --> 00:25:07.049 a pop -up on screen that says click here to allow, 00:25:07.410 --> 00:25:11.609 but you do have to click the allow, and then 00:25:11.609 --> 00:25:14.529 you're in, and then you're okay. So if you're 00:25:14.529 --> 00:25:16.289 remoting into somebody for the first time and 00:25:16.289 --> 00:25:18.690 we miss that on the setup, then they're going 00:25:18.690 --> 00:25:20.730 to have to click allow, and you're going to have 00:25:20.730 --> 00:25:23.369 to disconnect and reconnect. But then at that 00:25:23.369 --> 00:25:27.430 point, then you're okay. So it's kind of a bit 00:25:27.430 --> 00:25:31.109 of a bugger there. But it's an incredibly useful 00:25:31.109 --> 00:25:35.150 tool. Our staff are all over the place, especially 00:25:35.150 --> 00:25:38.130 in summer when we've got the city teams going 00:25:38.130 --> 00:25:41.849 across the multiple states. As long as they've 00:25:41.849 --> 00:25:44.789 got a Wi -Fi connection, we can get right in 00:25:44.789 --> 00:25:49.990 and go. So it is an incredibly useful tool. And 00:25:49.990 --> 00:25:51.990 I would say with an increasingly more mobile 00:25:51.990 --> 00:25:55.630 workforce, these types of things are just going 00:25:55.630 --> 00:25:59.029 to be that much more important. Do you see any 00:25:59.029 --> 00:26:03.150 other leaders in this space? Yeah, I mean, there's 00:26:03.150 --> 00:26:07.609 some of the usual players that are there. Like, 00:26:07.630 --> 00:26:11.529 we used to have Bomgar, but now it's a part of 00:26:11.529 --> 00:26:15.390 Beyond Trust. I think they, what do they call 00:26:15.390 --> 00:26:19.549 it? A terrible name. I think they call it Entitle. 00:26:21.089 --> 00:26:23.789 What a terrible name. Yeah, it's Entitle now. 00:26:26.009 --> 00:26:29.450 Beyond Trust and Entitle. Who's in charge of 00:26:29.450 --> 00:26:35.380 this? Can't speak for that. But I mean, yeah, 00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:40.119 some of the usual people are out there. One that 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:44.779 I've seen a lot of smaller vendors use just because 00:26:44.779 --> 00:26:47.559 it's affordable is Zoho. I don't know if you've 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:53.000 ever seen or used that one or not. You broke 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:55.599 up there for me. Which one did you say? Zoho. 00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:02.069 Zoho. Yeah. So when we were doing... the Microsoft 00:27:02.069 --> 00:27:05.769 point of sale, two different vendors that we 00:27:05.769 --> 00:27:08.690 worked with were using Zoho. And then you would, 00:27:08.710 --> 00:27:11.190 they would send that to you to get it installed 00:27:11.190 --> 00:27:13.329 on the system. And then it would give them the 00:27:13.329 --> 00:27:16.849 access that they need. But I mean, there's still 00:27:16.849 --> 00:27:22.089 stuff out there like Splashtop, ConnectWise. 00:27:23.470 --> 00:27:25.950 I still see a lot of people even using things 00:27:25.950 --> 00:27:31.410 like TeamViewer. They're kind of, skirting the 00:27:31.410 --> 00:27:34.109 licensing model there that you can still technically 00:27:34.109 --> 00:27:38.049 do free for yourself. Right. And then just have 00:27:38.049 --> 00:27:40.789 that person give you the code and then, and then 00:27:40.789 --> 00:27:46.430 you're kind of in. Yeah. I'd rather not tread 00:27:46.430 --> 00:27:50.130 on somebody's intentions. Yeah. And now if you 00:27:50.130 --> 00:27:53.650 are a Google apps domain and you've got your 00:27:53.650 --> 00:27:58.309 staff really driven into Chrome, you can use 00:27:58.309 --> 00:28:01.349 the Chrome remote desktop plugin in the browser. 00:28:02.210 --> 00:28:04.849 We leverage that pretty heavily for getting into 00:28:04.849 --> 00:28:08.309 our Chromebooks. Yeah, and I mean, that was one 00:28:08.309 --> 00:28:09.569 of the things that I was looking at for this 00:28:09.569 --> 00:28:12.769 because I was actually, there's a couple Chromebooks 00:28:12.769 --> 00:28:15.329 that I've had trouble with recently. And so it 00:28:15.329 --> 00:28:19.609 was, you know, number one, just looking at the 00:28:19.609 --> 00:28:27.460 visibility in Chrome's device management. or 00:28:27.460 --> 00:28:29.700 Chrome and Google's device management stuff. 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:35.500 But then also being able to turn on that remote 00:28:35.500 --> 00:28:39.559 and be like, nope, it was easy to enroll these 00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:43.039 devices. It's easy to provision them. It's easy 00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:47.779 to control them. Now, cost on these can really 00:28:47.779 --> 00:28:51.619 vary depending upon the platform. Yeah, that's 00:28:51.619 --> 00:28:54.660 true. So, you know, I'm seeing anywhere from 00:28:54.660 --> 00:29:02.960 looks like, $25 to there's one for 33. There's 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:10.119 one for 79. Ouch. That's a lot for just remote. 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.359 But then if you go to something like the, uh, 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.619 a Tara, which kind of tries to be that, that 00:29:15.619 --> 00:29:18.559 all encompassing, you're going to pay one 49 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:22.160 a month, but that's per technician. So the idea 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.269 that I'm paying for technicians. I'm not paying 00:29:25.269 --> 00:29:28.789 for my staff or my devices could be appealing 00:29:28.789 --> 00:29:31.430 to some folks, depending upon how many technicians 00:29:31.430 --> 00:29:35.730 you have. Yeah, some of us only have one technician. 00:29:36.470 --> 00:29:41.069 So there you go, $149. Put it on every machine. 00:29:44.470 --> 00:29:47.150 But you get a lot more than just remote desktop 00:29:47.150 --> 00:29:52.670 with those guys. Complete remote IT management. 00:29:53.289 --> 00:29:56.769 Yes. Don't you like the little buzz? They do 00:29:56.769 --> 00:30:06.609 ticketing too. Ticketing, patch management, network 00:30:06.609 --> 00:30:09.750 discovery, remote monitoring. I mean, they try 00:30:09.750 --> 00:30:16.309 to do a wide swath of things. It is interesting. 00:30:16.410 --> 00:30:19.809 It looks like on remote access for Altera, they... 00:30:21.849 --> 00:30:25.210 or Atera, sorry, not Altair. I don't know how 00:30:25.210 --> 00:30:30.490 that popped in. Atera, they start questions easily 00:30:30.490 --> 00:30:36.049 with any desk, splash top, team viewer, or screen 00:30:36.049 --> 00:30:46.990 connect. So, what just happened? You still there? 00:30:47.109 --> 00:30:52.009 I'm here. Yeah. I just, I had a pop up. Not pop 00:30:52.009 --> 00:30:56.109 up, but another one of the programs that I'm 00:30:56.109 --> 00:31:01.869 running decided to take my screen. Anyway, remote 00:31:01.869 --> 00:31:03.869 access, they're actually using other things for 00:31:03.869 --> 00:31:09.769 that. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, it looks like 00:31:09.769 --> 00:31:13.410 they're trying to do a lot with AI agents to 00:31:13.410 --> 00:31:17.890 automate some of the support process. It is funny 00:31:17.890 --> 00:31:22.059 that we've rebranded that agents now. Yeah, and 00:31:22.059 --> 00:31:27.880 I don't know ultimately how I feel about some 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:31.579 of that. I mean, I'm all for putting stuff out 00:31:31.579 --> 00:31:34.539 there for people who are willing to do some work 00:31:34.539 --> 00:31:36.279 on their own for stuff that your department is 00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:39.059 going, you know what? We don't have to be on 00:31:39.059 --> 00:31:40.640 the phone and tell you to restart your computer 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.980 or we don't have to tell you how to fix this 00:31:43.980 --> 00:31:46.099 simple thing with your keyboard or your mouse 00:31:46.099 --> 00:31:49.619 or whatever it may be. Oh, hey, when's the last 00:31:49.619 --> 00:31:52.470 time that you... actually close that program 00:31:52.470 --> 00:31:54.390 because you've got a million tabs open and you're 00:31:54.390 --> 00:31:57.910 killing your resources on your system. I did 00:31:57.910 --> 00:32:00.769 have to tell a staff member that the other day, 00:32:00.789 --> 00:32:02.329 like, when was the last time you restarted this 00:32:02.329 --> 00:32:05.150 machine? I don't remember. That's a problem. 00:32:05.910 --> 00:32:13.049 Yes. So I continue to be apprehensive about AI, 00:32:13.130 --> 00:32:15.450 especially as I've looked into more since our 00:32:15.450 --> 00:32:21.920 show. Very much concerned. about the injection 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:26.539 attacks and understanding that it is just an 00:32:26.539 --> 00:32:30.500 inherent issue in LLMs. So it's not like you 00:32:30.500 --> 00:32:36.920 can just magically make it go away. So I don't 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:49.750 know what they're going to do to fix that. They 00:32:49.750 --> 00:32:52.230 got a lot to figure out with that stuff, and 00:32:52.230 --> 00:32:54.190 it seems like some of it got rolled out a little 00:32:54.190 --> 00:32:56.890 too quick. You don't want to be last. Correct. 00:32:57.190 --> 00:32:59.470 Oh, go to my PC. I haven't used that in forever. 00:33:00.470 --> 00:33:10.890 Oh, wow. I was looking at any desk. Splashtop. 00:33:15.430 --> 00:33:18.930 Screen connect. Anyway, there's a lot of this. 00:33:21.129 --> 00:33:24.089 I've been trying to figure out if I need to start 00:33:24.089 --> 00:33:27.509 using a ticketing system. There's a bunch of, 00:33:27.569 --> 00:33:32.609 you know, it's probably not best if it's just 00:33:32.609 --> 00:33:35.910 all in emails, but I don't want to turn into 00:33:35.910 --> 00:33:47.039 the IT. But I think it's not a bad idea to. to 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.160 start a ticketing system, whether you start off 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.319 with one that's free or even if you start off 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.700 with one that is reasonably cheap because you 00:33:54.700 --> 00:33:58.119 just need some basic features. You don't need 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:02.740 some all -encompassing piece there, but it would 00:34:02.740 --> 00:34:06.079 be nice to have that email come in. It drops 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.679 into that system. It generates the ticket. You 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.239 could have a autoresponder go to them and say, 00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:12.699 hey, thanks for sending it in. We've got your 00:34:12.699 --> 00:34:16.300 ticket. You know, they know, okay, somebody got 00:34:16.300 --> 00:34:19.820 this versus right now they send it and they don't 00:34:19.820 --> 00:34:21.920 know, well, did somebody get it? Did somebody 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:26.480 read it? So there are some nice, some wins there. 00:34:26.860 --> 00:34:29.019 And then being able to assign it to whoever you 00:34:29.019 --> 00:34:32.159 need to assign it to. And then they get notified 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:34.340 and then they know they've got something they 00:34:34.340 --> 00:34:40.099 need to work on. I think there could be some 00:34:40.099 --> 00:34:52.099 wins there for sure. Can you hear that? Yeah, 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.239 somebody's playing drums for you, man. Oh, my 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.119 gosh. It is so loud. Hold on just a second. Yeah. 00:34:58.579 --> 00:35:01.480 Or you don't hold on. Well, yeah. No, hold on. 00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:03.360 We'll just pause the show first. Yeah, we'll 00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:08.960 pause the show. Gotta go turn that off. Don't 00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.920 worry, everybody. We will... Oh, there went the 00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:15.719 camera. We will cut this out in post because 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.840 that's just what we do. John has stepped away 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:27.280 for the moment. So now I kind of feel like Adam 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:31.480 Curry on the 2 .0 podcast when Dave Jones would 00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.579 have what felt like almost every other show, 00:35:34.659 --> 00:35:36.739 his computer would crash and he'd have to restart. 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.500 And Adam was kind of left on his own on a live 00:35:40.500 --> 00:35:42.860 stream trying to figure out how to fill the time. 00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:48.590 So. I'm curious to see what all the banging was, 00:35:48.710 --> 00:35:54.329 but that was a pretty still there. Hear it. Dang 00:35:54.329 --> 00:35:59.469 it. What are they doing? They're mic checking. 00:36:00.250 --> 00:36:03.809 I'm like, seriously? That's a mic check? Yeah. 00:36:04.010 --> 00:36:07.230 Are they smacking the mic? No, he's hitting the 00:36:07.230 --> 00:36:16.789 toms. Oh. This has to stop. I didn't expect this 00:36:16.789 --> 00:36:24.170 to be as loud right next door. It is. Okay. I 00:36:24.170 --> 00:36:27.530 guess since you're there in that office, that 00:36:27.530 --> 00:36:31.349 means that the house is still not usable. It 00:36:31.349 --> 00:36:38.130 is kind of usable. It's not quite ready yet. 00:36:38.170 --> 00:36:43.469 Oh, my gosh. Yeah. When you got up and walked 00:36:43.469 --> 00:36:46.219 away, your camera just went, whoo. Oh, my gosh. 00:36:47.460 --> 00:36:51.780 This is an insane problem to be having right 00:36:51.780 --> 00:36:54.739 now. But evidently, they're going to turn the 00:36:54.739 --> 00:36:58.840 drums up as loud as they possibly can. Nice. 00:36:59.980 --> 00:37:06.219 Well, you've got the soundboard there in front 00:37:06.219 --> 00:37:07.800 of you or in the room with you, don't you? No, 00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.360 I don't. Not anymore. Oh, that's right. It all 00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:14.619 got redone and moved. You're not hearing it out 00:37:14.619 --> 00:37:17.960 of the speakers that we have in this room. You're 00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:20.840 hearing it out of speakers that are in the other 00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.179 room. That's how loud they have this up. No, 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:24.739 I'm sitting there going, if you had that, you 00:37:24.739 --> 00:37:26.739 could have thrown something on that Mac and then 00:37:26.739 --> 00:37:30.460 cranked it up in there. This is how it feels, 00:37:30.500 --> 00:37:33.699 guys. How do you like that? How do you like them 00:37:33.699 --> 00:37:35.639 apples? You know how those drummers are. They 00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:39.739 can't just simply tap. They've got to go. Oh, 00:37:39.739 --> 00:37:43.329 my gosh. Well, I'm more frustrated with the sound 00:37:43.329 --> 00:37:47.710 guy. Like, that's way too loud. Yeah. Anyway, 00:37:47.829 --> 00:37:53.690 most of my question was, like, what are we using 00:37:53.690 --> 00:37:59.590 now? Why do we need to use it? Are there alternatives 00:37:59.590 --> 00:38:08.210 here that we can be looking at for? Well, I think 00:38:08.210 --> 00:38:16.449 for. For the individual, something like the plugin 00:38:16.449 --> 00:38:19.369 in the Chrome browser is still incredibly useful. 00:38:19.909 --> 00:38:23.670 I still encourage anybody who is doing it for 00:38:23.670 --> 00:38:27.730 personal devices to sign up for JumpCloud because 00:38:27.730 --> 00:38:34.030 you still get up to 10 devices for free. So if 00:38:34.030 --> 00:38:36.150 you're just kind of managing computers in your 00:38:36.150 --> 00:38:39.659 household, yeah and you get and you get all the 00:38:39.659 --> 00:38:42.719 features that's that's the great thing about 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.539 it is you don't get like a reduced set you get 00:38:46.539 --> 00:38:49.400 all the features but you are hard capped at 10 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:54.179 um you know and so like for for us at home i've 00:38:54.179 --> 00:38:57.280 created login accounts and then computers are 00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.500 in there you know my personal device is in there 00:38:59.500 --> 00:39:02.099 both the laptops that the kids have michelle's 00:39:02.099 --> 00:39:05.000 got one in there so i'm only managing four and 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.000 i'm And for the most part, most of the time, 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.519 I'm just managing user accounts. But when they're 00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.960 like, hey, this isn't working, I can go in, I 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.719 can remote in, depending on where they are, and 00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:20.059 I can try to help. So, you know, both of those 00:39:20.059 --> 00:39:24.800 are great entryway options for personal. For 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.760 work, obviously, you need to be mindful. But 00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.820 again, if you're a Google Apps domain, you could 00:39:30.820 --> 00:39:32.940 totally leverage that plugin into Google Chrome. 00:39:33.469 --> 00:39:36.510 And even if your staff don't normally use Chrome 00:39:36.510 --> 00:39:39.889 for the purposes of that support session, you 00:39:39.889 --> 00:39:42.170 can say, I need you to open Chrome. And then 00:39:42.170 --> 00:39:43.989 once they're in and then that connects, then 00:39:43.989 --> 00:39:48.030 you could remote in to that device and assist 00:39:48.030 --> 00:39:50.789 them with whatever's going on. So there are some 00:39:50.789 --> 00:39:57.090 really nice cost -effective ways to kind of cut 00:39:57.090 --> 00:40:00.409 some of your cost and still have a feature set 00:40:00.409 --> 00:40:02.010 that will let you actually support the people 00:40:02.010 --> 00:40:06.860 that you need to. I love the idea that it is 00:40:06.860 --> 00:40:11.880 baked into the MDM in some way. It didn't have 00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:14.039 to be, but that's all that obviously that's convenient 00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:17.719 is more things kind of work together. Single 00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.320 pane of glass, man. It is nice when you can have 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:24.019 it. It really is. So, but I mean, yeah, there's 00:40:24.019 --> 00:40:25.719 a lot of options out there. I mean, and then 00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:27.579 even if you are doing something like that, a 00:40:27.579 --> 00:40:33.070 Tara and you've got, you know, Three, four, maybe 00:40:33.070 --> 00:40:35.530 five technicians, and that's all you're paying. 00:40:35.949 --> 00:40:38.949 And then you've got however big your fleet is, 00:40:39.090 --> 00:40:43.449 that could still be an affordable way to bring 00:40:43.449 --> 00:40:49.889 in some of these pieces that you need. So the 00:40:49.889 --> 00:40:53.730 need for this is not going away. Nope. And people 00:40:53.730 --> 00:40:56.630 don't want to come back to the office. Nope. 00:41:01.710 --> 00:41:05.949 You know, this Dr. Pepper is amazing, but it 00:41:05.949 --> 00:41:08.849 just didn't feel right with the show. It's not 00:41:08.849 --> 00:41:13.369 a beer. I hear you. We're going to get together 00:41:13.369 --> 00:41:16.690 and have one next week. Yeah, I messed up and 00:41:16.690 --> 00:41:20.730 cracked it open before the show and took a drink, 00:41:20.750 --> 00:41:23.150 and I'm like, oh, you idiot. You shouldn't have 00:41:23.150 --> 00:41:25.670 opened that yet. That's content. What are you 00:41:25.670 --> 00:41:28.090 doing? Yes. I'm supposed to put it right up by 00:41:28.090 --> 00:41:33.929 the mic. So, but yeah, I think this is still 00:41:33.929 --> 00:41:38.650 very much a tool that's useful to have work, 00:41:38.710 --> 00:41:42.949 personal, whatever the case may be. And the need 00:41:42.949 --> 00:41:45.070 for it is only going to grow. So if you don't 00:41:45.070 --> 00:41:48.570 have it, I highly recommend you get on the ball 00:41:48.570 --> 00:41:51.230 and find the right solution for you and for your 00:41:51.230 --> 00:41:56.429 team. Fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop being so judgy. 00:41:58.670 --> 00:42:02.349 You asked. I did, right? That's my fault. If 00:42:02.349 --> 00:42:04.429 you don't want me to answer, don't ask the question. 00:42:07.670 --> 00:42:15.110 I don't hear the banging anymore. Yeah, they're 00:42:15.110 --> 00:42:19.110 starting to bring in the whole band slowly, so. 00:42:19.550 --> 00:42:26.070 Okay. That's all I got. Okay. Shorter show, but 00:42:26.070 --> 00:42:29.909 I think that probably. What is it talking about? 00:42:29.929 --> 00:42:32.949 The call me session on slot one is about to expire. 00:42:33.469 --> 00:42:43.510 No, I pay for this. Oh. Yep. I hit the extent. 00:42:43.630 --> 00:42:46.510 I thought when I paid for that, that got removed. 00:42:50.150 --> 00:42:52.630 All right. That's fun. I'll have to look that 00:42:52.630 --> 00:42:55.570 up because, I mean, that's the whole point that 00:42:55.570 --> 00:42:58.860 I thought for signing up. Yeah, I thought so 00:42:58.860 --> 00:43:02.059 too. Unless that was the next year up because 00:43:02.059 --> 00:43:05.920 they had two tiers and I chose the more affordable 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:10.079 10 bucks a month. And I'm certainly not getting 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:14.380 my $10 worth out of it. Nope. Other than maybe 00:43:14.380 --> 00:43:16.139 I could just hit extend from time to time when 00:43:16.139 --> 00:43:20.000 I need it. Yeah. All the things you do for the 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.679 show. All the things you do for this. Y 'all 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.679 are not cheap. It's for the show, guys. Come 00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:31.119 on. And we're still not getting communication 00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.199 from people out of Europe. I know you're listening. 00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:38.360 I see the numbers. Somebody, it's in the show 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:42.800 notes, shoot us an email. We'd love to know why 00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:50.860 all the downloads in the UK and in, I'm drawing 00:43:50.860 --> 00:43:53.260 a blank, Netherlands. Thank you, Netherlands. 00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.840 Glad I could help you out there. Yeah. Come on, 00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:01.179 Dutch. Why are y 'all listening to the show? 00:44:03.539 --> 00:44:05.940 Oh, you're talking to the Dutch. Yeah, I'm talking 00:44:05.940 --> 00:44:08.219 to the Dutch now. I'm like, hey, I know you're 00:44:08.219 --> 00:44:13.320 listening. I can see it. Y 'all in Groningen 00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:21.460 and Drenth. Well, no, that's Sweden. That's Stockholm. 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:30.489 I have no idea. South Holland. North Brabant 00:44:30.489 --> 00:44:33.289 or however they, they say that. I don't, I don't 00:44:33.289 --> 00:44:35.869 have a Dutch accent. So I know you're listening. 00:44:36.150 --> 00:44:40.090 I can see it. Would love to know how and why. 00:44:42.489 --> 00:44:45.269 Even if you use our show as a drinking game, 00:44:45.449 --> 00:44:48.409 I'm fine with that too. Just let me know what 00:44:48.409 --> 00:44:54.670 you've developed. Yeah. Yeah. The beer and gear 00:44:54.670 --> 00:44:56.989 podcast, turn it into a drinking game. That'd 00:44:56.989 --> 00:45:03.489 be awesome. I'd promote that. That's an exit 00:45:03.489 --> 00:45:12.289 strategy. We are a drinking game. We're a drinking 00:45:12.289 --> 00:45:19.510 game. Yep. All right, well, let's cut it before 00:45:19.510 --> 00:45:22.230 the band gets going and makes the audio even 00:45:22.230 --> 00:45:25.190 better for the show. Oh, my gosh. We're going 00:45:25.190 --> 00:45:28.230 to see how bad this is and if it airs or not. 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:32.480 We may rerecord all of this. Yeah, this may come 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:35.480 out five years from now. It's like the lost episode. 00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:41.360 Yeah, absolutely. So, all right. See you, John. 00:45:42.179 --> 00:46:05.389 All right, bye. See you, John. Yep, this is the 00:46:05.389 --> 00:46:06.769 only good podcast anyone does.