are you recording or am i i am if you want to
record as a backup that works oh yeah i should
probably do that you're right all right here
we go one two three hit it Hey, Chris. Hey, John.
How are you, man? I'm doing good. It's good to
see your face. Yeah, good to see you again as
well. Remote lit. Yep. That was exciting. Yeah,
well, something chirped or cut or whatever that
was. Yeah, I don't know what that, don't touch
it anymore. Yes. So, I guess what you were, what
we've seen a little bit. Man, that high pitch
is just killing me. It's really bad. Oh, the
joys of being mobile. I think maybe we can fix
that in post. So if you don't hear the high pitch,
just... It's a stupid fan. I just can't get it
to stop. Maybe I need to move my... Well, but
if I move my computer, then I don't have my screens
to look at for what we're going to talk about.
Oh, no. The joys of technology. I mean, there's
always something. I really thought stopping those
updates was going to quiet it down, but not so
much. In and out like nobody's business. Yep.
There's a scratch, scratch, and then nothing,
and then scratch, scratch, and then... We're
going to get an award for the audio of this show.
Yeah, no, I don't think so. We also are not going
to get an award for having the best beer on this
show. Yeah. Yeah. My location kind of put a little
bit of a kibosh on that. Oh my gosh. What was
that one? You just cut out and came back in and
then cut out again. Okay. Like you're hearing
yourself and I'm not hearing you at all. Yeah.
I hear myself the whole time. So if you can hear
you and you're the recording, then it doesn't
matter if I can hear you, right? Correct. As
long as my recording is good. Oh, gosh. So there's
that. So we'll see. I can always let you know
what my recording sounds like and let you know
if I need yours. Well, you're not going to want
mine. Well, that depends on how bad mine sounds.
I guess that's true. Fans are starting to quiet
some. Yeah, that's not as bad. Okay. Just took
forever. Yeah. This, folks, is why you want a
device that you can choose when it's up. Snap,
crackle, pop. Yeah. Was that me? Did I snap,
crackle, pop? It was on my end from you. Yeah,
I think it's just this call me thing is going
in and out. It's something. It's something. And
we've only done one other show with it. Yeah,
but, you know, you didn't do the firmware update,
so I'm going to blame you. No, I'm blaming you
because you did the firmware update. You never
update before the show. Update before the show.
Just, it could go badly. Yeah, well, we can.
And if we feel like this one's too bad, I guess
we will punt and redo. Awesome. There's always
Monday. Okay. So before we jump into the thing
that we're actually going to talk about, we don't
have a beer to talk about today. True. I did
want to say that right, or not right after, but
after we, and then before the show, Road released
a new hotness. Oh, did they? Did you hear about
this? No. Sorry, they haven't released it. Technically,
they haven't released it yet. So there's that.
Is it on their site? Yes. Okay. You're going
to go to their site and go to RODECasterVideoS.
Oh. That looks like a little guy. Yeah, it's
a little guy, and it's half the price. Oh. So
it's basically the RODECaster Duo version of
the RODECaster video. Yeah. But here's the fun
part, Chris. I mean, I know that this isn't actually
that exciting to you because you don't want to
do video. But for people that want to do video
and already have a RODECaster Duo or something
like that, you can... I think three HDMI inputs.
Yeah, that's what I'm looking at. And then you
can also use the USB -C. Look at that. Thank
you, Apple. What? Your camera's jumping around.
No, that's Insta360. I gave it a sign that it
thinks means something. So that's pretty fun.
Oh. I don't know. What just happened there? Stop.
What is that? That's like a zoom out. It's like
a, it's not, but it looks like a QR code. Um,
yeah, that's, that's pretty crazy. I'm going
to fix that while we're talking. Um, so the road
caster, uh, video or the, is that what it's called?
Yeah, RODECaster Video S. It's the simplified
version of the RODECaster Video. I mean, I have
to admit this has me intrigued. Because you still
have two XLR combo. So if you had somebody else
with you, you could still. Get that in. And I
suspect that you could probably do the wireless
link as well. Unless they've cut that out of
this model. Yeah, you can do the wireless mic
with it. And in fact, I think it's got two wireless
mic. Like you can do two different wireless mics
to it. But the real kicker, at least in my mind,
is that if you've got a... or Rodecaster Duo,
you can connect it to it as that's the audio
inputs and then use the rest of it. Oh, now we've
got an extreme close -up of the part of your
hat. Yeah. I'm going to get it fixed, I promise.
I'm just not working on it. I mean, this is a
very intriguing piece of hardware. I mean, yeah,
I'm not necessarily... Chomping at the bit for
video, but for $499, it does everything that
my RODECaster does, plus all the video. And the
fact that you could have up to three cameras,
you've got one HDMI out, and then you've got
four USB -C. Yeah. Two of them labeled computer,
which is basically what my Rodecaster can do.
I've got three that has just the USB symbol on
it. And then four says mic. And is that like
a camera symbol? Mm -hmm. That's the camera.
So you could do like a USB -C camera. So you
could drive up to at least four into this. And
it's all power. PD 45 watts. So depending upon
the computer, you could just plug right in and
go off a computer for power. Yes. So I'm finding
this intriguing. Now I have to convince myself
to drop 500 bucks. I mean, it's one of those
things. Because the hoarder slash collector in
me doesn't necessarily want to get rid of the
road caster. Yeah, no, I think it's a very specific,
like, yes, I do think, like, if anything else,
like my road caster duo over here, it's going
to do some and then whatever. But I really do
think that this is. this is in my mind, a perfect
supplement where I didn't want to go full roadcaster
video because it's too much for what I already
have and what I'm going to use it for. And crazy
expensive. Yeah. The, the $500, which again,
I understand that's still a lot of money, but
it's not a thousand dollars. Yeah. So $500 add
on if you want to do stuff, if you want to maybe
video an interview for. or whatever it is like
this is a, this is a great and still mobile.
It's so small. Um, I just, I think it's a, I
think it's like, uh, I think maybe I, I, I understand
why they did the, um, video first and then the
video S this is kind of the opposite of how they
did the, um, magic did, uh, or they did a Tim
many, Well, they did the big ATEMs, but like
the ATEM minis that they've made, they made the
smaller ones first and then they showed you like
the eight channel big ones because of what was
being asked for. This feels like the opposite
where they were like, we're going to make a smaller
version of this, but we're not going to tell
anybody yet. Yeah. Anyway. So I guess on like
what we do, you'd have to do a lot. On the software
side. Cause there, cause there's no, there's
no physical fader. So everything is going to
be in software. Like we were trying to make adjustments
prior to the show. Um, there, there's a lot that
can be done and, and I didn't really know this
about the other video. Um, it, a lot of like
the, the, a lot of how it is based, based on
its number pad is not so much. Like really they
want you to do it with scenes where those are
seen, like, like you push the button and it takes
you, like it sets up a scene or you set up a
scene beforehand. And then, you know, this is
going to be this cut to this and cut to this.
And so that, that seemed like an interesting
way to handle that. And all that software, you
set all of that up beforehand software. Yeah.
I was trying to see which, is it a specific program
or is it still the same thing that you would
use with the, with the road caster? Um, I think
it's a specific, hold on. Where did I see this?
This is the problem with doing all this research
beforehand and then not taking screenshots. I
love that. One of the things that you can click
on is, what's in the box? No, it's just the RODECaster
app. Okay. So they are kind of keeping that as
the Swiss Army knife of all their hardware. I
will tell you, it's not the... Did they change
the emblem? Not emblem. Icon roadcaster app because
that's not what I remember it being. But when
I look at their like what they're showing on
the screen, it's the roadcaster app. Yeah, I
think they did a change recently. It's like it
says hard and then like a backwards D. Like background
black. Yeah. Anyway. That's weird. I like the
other one better. I like the... Whatever that
is. You weren't in the focus group. I was not.
I should be in so many focus groups, but they
don't invite me. I'm not... I have to admit that
this... I find this intriguing. Yeah. Um, of
course, ultimately if we were apart, we've each
got to have one. That's true. So, but if we were
doing stuff, so here, here's, I think I would
do this, um, with two of them. I think I would
probably like, you know, you're, you're calling
in with your, that's an interesting question.
Um, can you do a call me into a road video? Yeah,
so, yeah, I have lots of questions. Now, what
would be intriguing with this, not saying...
Fine, I'll buy it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no. I guess kind of just where my brain's
already going is when we are face -to -face,
we're using the church's Rodecaster, and we're
just kind of like, eh, we don't want to mess
with stuff. But if one of us had this, we could
bring it because it's so easy, it's so portable,
it's so easy. You just plug in your mic, plug
in your headphone. You can have all of our specific
configuration in this. Right. And then you're
good to go. And then when you're done with the
show, you just plug the headphones back in, you
plug the mics back in, and you didn't mess with
any settings on the RODECaster. We're not jumping,
but I realize on the RODECaster, you can set
up different shows. But in trying to be, you
know, the way my brain goes in to be fair to
the church, let's not mess with their stuff for
what we're doing for personal. Right. Um, so,
but yeah, I mean, I find, I find this intriguing
in maybe almost wanting to let go of $500 that
I don't have just to, just to play around. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm sitting here going, okay, so how, Quickly,
can they hurry up and get me the money for my
car? Because that's technically free money. That's
free money. And speaking of that, I gave you
the update on that, didn't I? No. Oh, well, let
me give you an update and everybody else can
listen along as well. So, you know, it was June
3rd of 24, right? Yeah, because this past June
was a year. So, June of 24 got hit on the side
gently. By an 18 -wheeler. We were at the finish
line finally after all this time. To my knowledge,
I'm not breaking any rules. A lawyer didn't say,
hey, don't talk to anybody. So here we go. They're
going to give me $9 ,000 for the car. What I
don't know is that $9 ,000 and they get the car
physically type of total out thing or $9 ,000
and I keep the car. So I'm waiting for that one
piece to be confirmed. But then they got the
medical to $25 ,000. So in the end, that means
that I would keep something in the ballpark of
$11 ,000 of medical, plus I'd have the nine for
the car. So I would get $20 ,000 in the end,
which is amazing. To keep the car. Yeah, it only
took a... A gentle rub, so to speak, from an
18 -wheeler. Your duct tape door on the back.
Yes. So that's why I say, I'm like, can they
hurry up with the money for the car? Because
they hurry up and get that to me by the end of
the year. Maybe I can convince myself to let
go of 500 bucks. Not bad. Of technically free
money. Yeah. All you had to do was get hit by
an 18 -wheeler. And wait a year and a half. Yeah.
Patience. This is a really intriguing piece of
hardware. I think so. And I do think it gives
us kind of a look into what they're thinking.
It makes me, now where I'm kind of going in the
future with this, is when they release a different
piece of hardware, now I find myself going, wait,
they're going to make a smaller, more affordable
version. I mean, maybe. Because, I mean, they've
done it with the RODECaster, and now they've
done it with the caster video. I don't know what
other piece of hardware they would potentially
make, but you never know. No, you don't. And
your camera is following you much better now.
Yes. I had to open up the... I don't know which
hand signal I did, but it was unintentional.
Don't do that. You never know. Yeah. All right.
Well, this is an intriguing piece of hardware.
I'm glad you think so. I was not sure if that
would actually pique your interest or not. I
mean, it does. I mean, it's one of the ones that...
More towards the video side of it, or at least
the being able to do video. Yeah. Side of it.
So also I did, I did actually get another piece
of gear that we'll talk about on another show.
I've actually had a time to mess with them, but
I got the road micros. Okay. The micro wireless
or whatever. Yeah. So. Fancy. This is Randy.
I've already used it, plugged the little thing
into my phone, and then just me and another person
were talking, and I got it all recorded and didn't
have to have another piece of gear there with
me for it. So it was real fast, and I think I
got this for straight up $100. Yeah, that's what
I was looking at to see what the price was real
quick. You can get one that has the camera attachment
as well, and that's like $130 or $100 -something.
But this one with just the two microphones and
then the dongle, wireless dongle for your phone,
that's $100. I think that's a great price for
something like this. Yeah, and you can apparently
pick your colors. Yeah, they've got black, white,
orange, red, and blue. I get it. There's times
where you may want white so that it disappears
more into a white shirt if you're recording people
a lot that wear white or something like that.
At no point is, like, the blue that they have
on there going to be hidden. Like, that's so
people see it. Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel
about the blue. And the red just screams, look
at me. And that orange is more like a UT, maybe
Tennessee orange. I mean, it's bright. Probably
Tennessee. It is so bright. It's not burnt enough
to be. Yeah. Sitting there going, if you got
the right color orange, you had me thinking bears.
You may have had my attention. Nope, they didn't
do that. That's okay. Interesting. Well, two
fun pieces of hardware in one show. The Australia
road people are not anywhere close to Chicago.
No, no, they're not. Okay, so let's get into
actually what we talked about talking about.
Yeah. Computer. Yes. Hello, computer. So we've
talked a little bit about this before. We actually
talked more about this, but it feels like there's
been some changes in it, and I'm looking at it
through a different lens now. Remote support.
What are your thoughts, Chris? I mean, it's incredibly
useful. You know, currently we use the flavor
that's baked into JumpCloud. Now, when it first
came out and they labeled it beta, they weren't
lying. It was very beta. It was a nightmare and
very unreliable. But then they... kind of ironed
it all out and once it went to a live product
it's been huge you know we can do unattended
which is nice you don't necessarily have to be
at the computer or you could have them be there
and then send them the code and and then you're
in the biggest thing that you deal with is having
some of the elevated privileges you know as much
as Apple used to be on Microsoft for that in
the days of Vista. Apple is just as bad now.
So you've got to work around some of that. And
then also Apple, even though it gets pushed via
MDM, you still have to manually allow one of
the pieces of the remote management or it won't
work. just drives me insane. I think it was,
was it Sonoma where they did a security? I think
it was Sonoma where they did a security change
and introduced that little quirk. But prior to
that, because it pushed via MDM, you didn't have
to worry about it. But now you've got to do that.
So when we're getting somebody set up on a new
machine, we've got to make sure, hey, go, go.
Now, what they do is they're able to give you
a pop -up on screen that says click here to allow,
but you do have to click the allow, and then
you're in, and then you're okay. So if you're
remoting into somebody for the first time and
we miss that on the setup, then they're going
to have to click allow, and you're going to have
to disconnect and reconnect. But then at that
point, then you're okay. So it's kind of a bit
of a bugger there. But it's an incredibly useful
tool. Our staff are all over the place, especially
in summer when we've got the city teams going
across the multiple states. As long as they've
got a Wi -Fi connection, we can get right in
and go. So it is an incredibly useful tool. And
I would say with an increasingly more mobile
workforce, these types of things are just going
to be that much more important. Do you see any
other leaders in this space? Yeah, I mean, there's
some of the usual players that are there. Like,
we used to have Bomgar, but now it's a part of
Beyond Trust. I think they, what do they call
it? A terrible name. I think they call it Entitle.
What a terrible name. Yeah, it's Entitle now.
Beyond Trust and Entitle. Who's in charge of
this? Can't speak for that. But I mean, yeah,
some of the usual people are out there. One that
I've seen a lot of smaller vendors use just because
it's affordable is Zoho. I don't know if you've
ever seen or used that one or not. You broke
up there for me. Which one did you say? Zoho.
Zoho. Yeah. So when we were doing... the Microsoft
point of sale, two different vendors that we
worked with were using Zoho. And then you would,
they would send that to you to get it installed
on the system. And then it would give them the
access that they need. But I mean, there's still
stuff out there like Splashtop, ConnectWise.
I still see a lot of people even using things
like TeamViewer. They're kind of, skirting the
licensing model there that you can still technically
do free for yourself. Right. And then just have
that person give you the code and then, and then
you're kind of in. Yeah. I'd rather not tread
on somebody's intentions. Yeah. And now if you
are a Google apps domain and you've got your
staff really driven into Chrome, you can use
the Chrome remote desktop plugin in the browser.
We leverage that pretty heavily for getting into
our Chromebooks. Yeah, and I mean, that was one
of the things that I was looking at for this
because I was actually, there's a couple Chromebooks
that I've had trouble with recently. And so it
was, you know, number one, just looking at the
visibility in Chrome's device management. or
Chrome and Google's device management stuff.
But then also being able to turn on that remote
and be like, nope, it was easy to enroll these
devices. It's easy to provision them. It's easy
to control them. Now, cost on these can really
vary depending upon the platform. Yeah, that's
true. So, you know, I'm seeing anywhere from
looks like, $25 to there's one for 33. There's
one for 79. Ouch. That's a lot for just remote.
But then if you go to something like the, uh,
a Tara, which kind of tries to be that, that
all encompassing, you're going to pay one 49
a month, but that's per technician. So the idea
that I'm paying for technicians. I'm not paying
for my staff or my devices could be appealing
to some folks, depending upon how many technicians
you have. Yeah, some of us only have one technician.
So there you go, $149. Put it on every machine.
But you get a lot more than just remote desktop
with those guys. Complete remote IT management.
Yes. Don't you like the little buzz? They do
ticketing too. Ticketing, patch management, network
discovery, remote monitoring. I mean, they try
to do a wide swath of things. It is interesting.
It looks like on remote access for Altera, they...
or Atera, sorry, not Altair. I don't know how
that popped in. Atera, they start questions easily
with any desk, splash top, team viewer, or screen
connect. So, what just happened? You still there?
I'm here. Yeah. I just, I had a pop up. Not pop
up, but another one of the programs that I'm
running decided to take my screen. Anyway, remote
access, they're actually using other things for
that. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, it looks like
they're trying to do a lot with AI agents to
automate some of the support process. It is funny
that we've rebranded that agents now. Yeah, and
I don't know ultimately how I feel about some
of that. I mean, I'm all for putting stuff out
there for people who are willing to do some work
on their own for stuff that your department is
going, you know what? We don't have to be on
the phone and tell you to restart your computer
or we don't have to tell you how to fix this
simple thing with your keyboard or your mouse
or whatever it may be. Oh, hey, when's the last
time that you... actually close that program
because you've got a million tabs open and you're
killing your resources on your system. I did
have to tell a staff member that the other day,
like, when was the last time you restarted this
machine? I don't remember. That's a problem.
Yes. So I continue to be apprehensive about AI,
especially as I've looked into more since our
show. Very much concerned. about the injection
attacks and understanding that it is just an
inherent issue in LLMs. So it's not like you
can just magically make it go away. So I don't
know what they're going to do to fix that. They
got a lot to figure out with that stuff, and
it seems like some of it got rolled out a little
too quick. You don't want to be last. Correct.
Oh, go to my PC. I haven't used that in forever.
Oh, wow. I was looking at any desk. Splashtop.
Screen connect. Anyway, there's a lot of this.
I've been trying to figure out if I need to start
using a ticketing system. There's a bunch of,
you know, it's probably not best if it's just
all in emails, but I don't want to turn into
the IT. But I think it's not a bad idea to. to
start a ticketing system, whether you start off
with one that's free or even if you start off
with one that is reasonably cheap because you
just need some basic features. You don't need
some all -encompassing piece there, but it would
be nice to have that email come in. It drops
into that system. It generates the ticket. You
could have a autoresponder go to them and say,
hey, thanks for sending it in. We've got your
ticket. You know, they know, okay, somebody got
this versus right now they send it and they don't
know, well, did somebody get it? Did somebody
read it? So there are some nice, some wins there.
And then being able to assign it to whoever you
need to assign it to. And then they get notified
and then they know they've got something they
need to work on. I think there could be some
wins there for sure. Can you hear that? Yeah,
somebody's playing drums for you, man. Oh, my
gosh. It is so loud. Hold on just a second. Yeah.
Or you don't hold on. Well, yeah. No, hold on.
We'll just pause the show first. Yeah, we'll
pause the show. Gotta go turn that off. Don't
worry, everybody. We will... Oh, there went the
camera. We will cut this out in post because
that's just what we do. John has stepped away
for the moment. So now I kind of feel like Adam
Curry on the 2 .0 podcast when Dave Jones would
have what felt like almost every other show,
his computer would crash and he'd have to restart.
And Adam was kind of left on his own on a live
stream trying to figure out how to fill the time.
So. I'm curious to see what all the banging was,
but that was a pretty still there. Hear it. Dang
it. What are they doing? They're mic checking.
I'm like, seriously? That's a mic check? Yeah.
Are they smacking the mic? No, he's hitting the
toms. Oh. This has to stop. I didn't expect this
to be as loud right next door. It is. Okay. I
guess since you're there in that office, that
means that the house is still not usable. It
is kind of usable. It's not quite ready yet.
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. When you got up and walked
away, your camera just went, whoo. Oh, my gosh.
This is an insane problem to be having right
now. But evidently, they're going to turn the
drums up as loud as they possibly can. Nice.
Well, you've got the soundboard there in front
of you or in the room with you, don't you? No,
I don't. Not anymore. Oh, that's right. It all
got redone and moved. You're not hearing it out
of the speakers that we have in this room. You're
hearing it out of speakers that are in the other
room. That's how loud they have this up. No,
I'm sitting there going, if you had that, you
could have thrown something on that Mac and then
cranked it up in there. This is how it feels,
guys. How do you like that? How do you like them
apples? You know how those drummers are. They
can't just simply tap. They've got to go. Oh,
my gosh. Well, I'm more frustrated with the sound
guy. Like, that's way too loud. Yeah. Anyway,
most of my question was, like, what are we using
now? Why do we need to use it? Are there alternatives
here that we can be looking at for? Well, I think
for. For the individual, something like the plugin
in the Chrome browser is still incredibly useful.
I still encourage anybody who is doing it for
personal devices to sign up for JumpCloud because
you still get up to 10 devices for free. So if
you're just kind of managing computers in your
household, yeah and you get and you get all the
features that's that's the great thing about
it is you don't get like a reduced set you get
all the features but you are hard capped at 10
um you know and so like for for us at home i've
created login accounts and then computers are
in there you know my personal device is in there
both the laptops that the kids have michelle's
got one in there so i'm only managing four and
i'm And for the most part, most of the time,
I'm just managing user accounts. But when they're
like, hey, this isn't working, I can go in, I
can remote in, depending on where they are, and
I can try to help. So, you know, both of those
are great entryway options for personal. For
work, obviously, you need to be mindful. But
again, if you're a Google Apps domain, you could
totally leverage that plugin into Google Chrome.
And even if your staff don't normally use Chrome
for the purposes of that support session, you
can say, I need you to open Chrome. And then
once they're in and then that connects, then
you could remote in to that device and assist
them with whatever's going on. So there are some
really nice cost -effective ways to kind of cut
some of your cost and still have a feature set
that will let you actually support the people
that you need to. I love the idea that it is
baked into the MDM in some way. It didn't have
to be, but that's all that obviously that's convenient
is more things kind of work together. Single
pane of glass, man. It is nice when you can have
it. It really is. So, but I mean, yeah, there's
a lot of options out there. I mean, and then
even if you are doing something like that, a
Tara and you've got, you know, Three, four, maybe
five technicians, and that's all you're paying.
And then you've got however big your fleet is,
that could still be an affordable way to bring
in some of these pieces that you need. So the
need for this is not going away. Nope. And people
don't want to come back to the office. Nope.
You know, this Dr. Pepper is amazing, but it
just didn't feel right with the show. It's not
a beer. I hear you. We're going to get together
and have one next week. Yeah, I messed up and
cracked it open before the show and took a drink,
and I'm like, oh, you idiot. You shouldn't have
opened that yet. That's content. What are you
doing? Yes. I'm supposed to put it right up by
the mic. So, but yeah, I think this is still
very much a tool that's useful to have work,
personal, whatever the case may be. And the need
for it is only going to grow. So if you don't
have it, I highly recommend you get on the ball
and find the right solution for you and for your
team. Fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop being so judgy.
You asked. I did, right? That's my fault. If
you don't want me to answer, don't ask the question.
I don't hear the banging anymore. Yeah, they're
starting to bring in the whole band slowly, so.
Okay. That's all I got. Okay. Shorter show, but
I think that probably. What is it talking about?
The call me session on slot one is about to expire.
No, I pay for this. Oh. Yep. I hit the extent.
I thought when I paid for that, that got removed.
All right. That's fun. I'll have to look that
up because, I mean, that's the whole point that
I thought for signing up. Yeah, I thought so
too. Unless that was the next year up because
they had two tiers and I chose the more affordable
10 bucks a month. And I'm certainly not getting
my $10 worth out of it. Nope. Other than maybe
I could just hit extend from time to time when
I need it. Yeah. All the things you do for the
show. All the things you do for this. Y 'all
are not cheap. It's for the show, guys. Come
on. And we're still not getting communication
from people out of Europe. I know you're listening.
I see the numbers. Somebody, it's in the show
notes, shoot us an email. We'd love to know why
all the downloads in the UK and in, I'm drawing
a blank, Netherlands. Thank you, Netherlands.
Glad I could help you out there. Yeah. Come on,
Dutch. Why are y 'all listening to the show?
Oh, you're talking to the Dutch. Yeah, I'm talking
to the Dutch now. I'm like, hey, I know you're
listening. I can see it. Y 'all in Groningen
and Drenth. Well, no, that's Sweden. That's Stockholm.
I have no idea. South Holland. North Brabant
or however they, they say that. I don't, I don't
have a Dutch accent. So I know you're listening.
I can see it. Would love to know how and why.
Even if you use our show as a drinking game,
I'm fine with that too. Just let me know what
you've developed. Yeah. Yeah. The beer and gear
podcast, turn it into a drinking game. That'd
be awesome. I'd promote that. That's an exit
strategy. We are a drinking game. We're a drinking
game. Yep. All right, well, let's cut it before
the band gets going and makes the audio even
better for the show. Oh, my gosh. We're going
to see how bad this is and if it airs or not.
We may rerecord all of this. Yeah, this may come
out five years from now. It's like the lost episode.
Yeah, absolutely. So, all right. See you, John.
All right, bye. See you, John. Yep, this is the
only good podcast anyone does.