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Taco Bell, Taco Bell, product placement with

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Taco Bell. Eat chorrito, mucho burrito. Hey man,

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what's up? How much are you doing, John? I think

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I'm getting a little sick right now. That's never

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good. No. Never good. My son was like, uh, dad,

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I'm, um, I, my, my, uh, everybody that doesn't

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know, um, my 12 year old son. So I've got an

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11 year old son, a 12 year old son and a 13 year

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old daughter. Um, but my 12 year old son is autistic.

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So sometimes like certain things don't. and they

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just don't hit him the way everybody so like

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my other kids would just come up to me and be

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like dad i'm sick and micah's like confused he

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comes up to me and he's he's this afternoon and

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i was like but are you okay and he says i don't

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know and i was like what do you what do you mean

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you don't know if you're okay he's like my my

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teeth hurt my nose has been running And he said

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another symptom. And I was like, yeah, but I

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think you're sick. Yeah. And I think maybe you

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made me sick. Yeah. But. Well, I've got some

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of that. I've definitely got something congestion

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going on. Started to get some of the. Teeth ache

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from that. What is that? Like, it doesn't happen

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all the time. As you can see, my left eye is

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a little funky. Yeah. Both of my eyes are, like,

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crazy scratchy. Like, they're dry. Okay. But

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yet, they're not. Okay. So, I don't know if I've

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got something going around or... We got the black

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lung over here, guys. Black lung, the new variation

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of the COVIDs. Get your booster. Yeah, I don't

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know. That's weird. I know there is some COVID

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going around, but this doesn't feel like COVID

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that I've ever had in the past. I'm not sure

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that I've ever. The time that I knew that I had

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COVID, COVID, back when we were taking tests

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all the time and I hadn't found out that I had

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it, it was a strange. circumstance like it it

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didn't like my wife is the one who gave it to

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me and her like real um whatever you call it

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um symptom was her back hurt really bad but she's

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real stubborn she won't talk about being sick

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like at all um so and then i i don't know i just

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felt weird Yeah. I didn't lose my taste or anything.

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No, I didn't lose taste or smell. But it was

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like a strong cold. Yeah. Or maybe like a weakish

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flu when I had it. Yeah. Yeah, so this is definitely,

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didn't feel like that. Definitely could be going

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around. Right there in the schnoz. Yeah, it's

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definitely in my nose. But it's not giving me

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that really good radio voice. No. That's what

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I want. It's just a shame. Yeah. If I'm going

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to be sick, you better give me some low end over

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here. We got to do that with the effects. With

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the fat bottom? Fat bottom. There you go. Crank

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it up. It's so funny that it's called that. That's

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what it's called. Anyway, hey, what are we drinking

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tonight? Today. Not necessarily new for me. I

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think they're both new for you. Okay. My personal

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Rochefort favorite. Okay. The number 10. Okay.

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I think you will like it. I'm excited about that.

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It's a good Trappist. I almost bought that the

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other day. Oh, at Fresh? Yeah. Yeah. I really,

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really like them. So you're saying I should buy

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it. I went to get the Oscar Blues 1050. Okay.

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By the time I got there, they were gone. Oh.

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But they did have this one. I had this at Bernard's

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restaurant. Okay. It is the bourbon barrel. Yeah.

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I've had that. You have? Yeah. I really enjoyed

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it. Yeah. Kentucky bourbon barrel. Yeah. It's

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good. It's a good one. It's good. Yeah. So I

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have a bonus. Okay. We may have to split it,

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though. We'll see. Because I did a trade for

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a Kentucky. Kentucky. The beer is already kicking

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in. I haven't drank it yet. I did get a trade

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for the 1050. Okay. Well, we'll see. I don't

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think that... It's barrel -aged. And in the vein

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of what we talked about last week, it's 12 .5%.

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Start to show off with a bang. Okay. Why don't

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you pour some of that in here, and then I'm going

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to go with one of the Trappists, I think. Yeah,

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that one is 10. And the Kentucky bourbon is 8

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.2. Okay. So. Real short. Isn't that a smelly

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kind of a cheese? Yeah. All right. Here we go.

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I can get it to open. Get my finger under it.

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I got a little spritz. Yeah. That's okay. Tin

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50. Made by Oscar Blues, which is, now he's licking

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his hand. I'm not going to waste it. I mean.

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These are the people that make my favorite dark

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ale. Probably should have put that up against

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the. Wow, look at that. Old Chub. No, that's

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good. There we go. I don't want the whole thing.

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That head looks like chocolate milk. It really

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does. Wow. I don't think that I would be taken

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seriously. Hold on. Don't drink that. You want

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to take a picture of that? Yeah. I want people

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to see that it really looks like chocolate milk.

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That's insane. Not playing around. Where's my

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camera? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Chocolate milk. That

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is great. Give us the chocolate cake. Yeah. We

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can't laugh at that anymore. Well, you can laugh

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at the joke, but. Sometimes it feels like you

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can't. Okay, take a drink. I want to see what

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you think. I want to do my usual. Sniff. Oh,

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man, I can tell you. From the smell, this is

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going to be good. Yeah, you can get the bourbon.

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Definitely getting the sweet of the bourbon.

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Yes. My whole face is in this mug right now.

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Yeah, it is. Yeah, I take deep breaths of that.

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Man. All right, here we go. Cheers, man. Cheers.

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Toast. That's very much like chocolate milk.

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That's good. I know I say that every time, but.

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It's thick. When you get a good one, you get

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a good one, yeah. Yeah, it's super dark. It's

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got that coffee on the side of the tongue. Yeah,

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a little touch of bitter at the end. Yeah, I

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got a lot of coffee at the end. Yeah. But like

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the beginning is very, very smooth and like,

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I mean, I'm trying to convince myself that it

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wasn't because we said it looked like chocolate

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milk, but it was very like. You know, promised

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land, chocolate milk. This is thick. Yeah, that's

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good. Yeah, I don't hate that. I guess I'll have

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to keep going back and seeing if I can track

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some more down. This is a seasonal beer, unfortunately.

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That reminds me of something. What does that

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remind me of? Once it's gone, it's gone. I feel

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like we had a really coffee -ish. Dark ale like

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a year ago. That was my nose. Sorry. Yeah, no,

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it was really good. That is good. Not like that's

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a dessert. That's a dessert beer. I'd have, I'd

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eat steak with that. There's no way I could drink

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that while I'm eating steak. Oh, bring it. I

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drink that with steak. Really? Yeah. I just feel

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like the bourbon barrel aged ones are just too

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sweet to me for steak. No. Well, I'm not saying

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that I'm a connoisseur of these types of things

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and know all these pairings. It just seems like

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the kind of thing you're going to have with ice

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cream. Maybe. I don't know why. Maybe. Oh, turn

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it into a 10 -50 flute. Now that I believe. Some

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scoops of vanilla. Oh, bro. If you put vanilla

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in that, you are in trouble. Oh. That's going

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to go down really well. Well, I wouldn't want

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to put any chocolate. No. That'd be too much.

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No, vanilla I think would be great. But yeah,

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you put a couple scoops of vanilla and pour that

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over. Mm -hmm. Oh. I think you've got an idea

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there. I need to go back to Fat Dogs and see

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if they have any. Oh, yeah. I don't think about

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going to Fat Dogs. Because that's where this

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was at. This was actually Jason Cort. Oh, but

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he went to fat dogs, but he went to fat dogs.

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Yeah. Unfortunately, by the time I got there,

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they were all gone. Probably had sympathy with

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the fact that it was a holiday weekend. Yeah.

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So, but yeah, I would not mind pouring that over

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some vanilla and reporting back on how good it

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was. I expect it to be delicious. Oh, I no doubt.

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Don't tell me if it's not. It's just so thick.

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I'm swirling it around in my mug. I had a chocolate

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milkshake for lunch today at Burger Warehouse.

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They have good food, man. Burger Warehouse, for

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those of you that live in Tyler, you need to

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look it up. You're not going to drive by it and

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notice it or anything like that. It's kind of

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back in the Green Acres shopping center. Behind

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everything, though, like way in the corner. It's

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by the Sherwin -Williams. It's by the Sherwin

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-Williams. If you know where the Sherwin -Williams

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is there, that's right next to it, basically.

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But they've got a burger called the 5150 that

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has bacon in the patty. Yes. And bacon mayonnaise.

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And then you just go ahead and tell them to add

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bacon on top of it. And it's delicious. But they

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also are, I think now, the only place in Tyler

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that makes chocolate milkshakes with Blue Bell.

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That could be right. I mean, they'll make any

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kind of milkshake you want, but I always get

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a chocolate milkshake, and they make it with

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Blue Bell, and it's delicious. Just the way Gran

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used to make them. I'm going to just go to my

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happy place here for a minute. Give me a second.

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No. No, I don't want to come back. There's some

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happiness in this. Yeah. Does it have a thing?

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Did you look it up? Oh, Oscar Blues. Imperial

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Stout. Aged in bourbon barrels. Yeah, although

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that is very obvious from drinking it. No, no,

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no blurb on the can. You got a blurb on your

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page? Oscar Blues? Seasonal Imperial Stout known

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for its rich, viscous... I knew it. What a way

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to describe it. Complex flavor profile. It is

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brewed by Oscar Blues in Colorado. It's a Russian

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Imperial Stout. Brew is packed with flavors of

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chocolate -covered caramel coffee. Back that

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up. A Russian imperial stout. That's what it

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said. What did I say? Because the last two Russian

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imperial stouts were brutal. They were terrible.

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Yeah. Awful. Awful. So evidently. You got to

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come to Colorado to get it made right. So the

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Russians don't know how to do it. The Russians

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don't know how to do it. Okay. Not surprised

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by that. They probably did at one point. But

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then, you know. They get rid of the czar and

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they lost the knowledge. Socialism. Communism.

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Anyway, the brew is packed with flavors of chocolate

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-covered caramel coffee and roasted malts. It

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also has a balanced bitterness from a generous

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dose of hops. Balanced bitterness. I think that's

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where the real coffee flavor comes in. There's

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a kind of bitter end thing. 1050 is made with

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large amounts of two -row malt, chocolate malt.

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I didn't know there was chocolate in that. Some

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of that chocolate. Roasted barley, flaked oats,

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and hops. Yeah, I would say that all of that

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seems very, very much real. It's typically available

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September through March, which is seasonal -ish.

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Ish. That's half the year. They don't make it

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all the time. Two of the three. Two of the four

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seasons. We really only have three seasons in

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Texas. Yeah. But they are winter, spring, and

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summer. Fall is kind of a miscalculation. It

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looks like we're going to have fall this year.

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It feels that way. We may actually see fall before

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it turns winter. So where did you see Russian?

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In the reading. I googled Oscar Blues 1050. Did

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you follow the AI? There's the AI overview for

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you. Did you not even learn from our show? I

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did learn from our show, but this one didn't

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feel like it was. Here's directly from Oscar

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Blues. Okay, they're not going to call it Russian.

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Barrel -aged 1050. Okay. Oh, that wasn't even

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the barrel -aged version. Okay, so they say big,

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bad, and barrel aged. This imperial stout camped

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out for four seasons in bourbon whiskey oak barrels

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before reaching absolute perfection. Aromas of

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molasses and vanilla mixed with flavors of dark

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chocolate, espresso beans, and roasted barley

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to bring you a bold yet smooth finish that leaves

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a hint of toasty bourbon goodness. So they do

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say imperial style, but they don't say Russian.

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See, I would say, though, that the bourbon part

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that I'm getting is at the beginning, not the

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end. I don't know why. That's fair. And maybe

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I'm just wrong about that. Also, I'm a little

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bit under the weather, so. Inimitable. Wow. Are

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you over 21? Did you see what it says at the

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over 21? No, it didn't ask me. It asked me. And

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like the negative was like. You don't have enough

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gray apparently in your baby. The camera is looking

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at me. Like the red, the no was like maybe someday.

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And then on the positive side of it, it said

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last time I checked. Last time I checked. I'm

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just saying. Okay. Well, speaking of... It's

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a boundary -stretching beer. Ooh. Oh, but this

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is the... Again, that's just 1050. That's not

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the 1050. Not the barrel. Barrel. They call it

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the BA 1050. I'm just saying I'm a fan of Oscar

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Blues. I think they make a good beer. I've even

00:17:37.180 --> 00:17:41.440
had Mama's Little Yellow Pills. I mean, it's

00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:46.950
okay. It's just like old chub. And 1050, now

00:17:46.950 --> 00:17:51.809
this barrel -aged 1050, I'm going to say gets

00:17:51.809 --> 00:17:54.549
you something. I would say most of what they

00:17:54.549 --> 00:17:57.950
make I probably would be a snob against. Well,

00:17:57.970 --> 00:18:02.069
I mean, Dales is, I mean, it's the IPA. Like,

00:18:02.109 --> 00:18:04.950
this is the typical Colorado beers up here that

00:18:04.950 --> 00:18:08.369
are called Dales. Yeah, the IPA and the Pilsner.

00:18:08.630 --> 00:18:13.220
Yeah. Hazy Blues, not touching it. No. The yellow

00:18:13.220 --> 00:18:15.799
pills, Mama's Little Yellow Pills, no. Yeah.

00:18:16.460 --> 00:18:19.400
Masalima, not touching it. What? Not touching

00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:22.240
that. I'm kidding. Salt and lime? I'm drinking

00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.519
beer. I'm drinking beer. Why is there salt and

00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.240
lime? Correct. I do need to try the old chub.

00:18:27.259 --> 00:18:29.599
I haven't had it. You really haven't? I have

00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:31.200
not. And all these, like I've been talking about

00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:32.740
it for so long, you've never had it? No, I have

00:18:32.740 --> 00:18:34.859
not. All right, well, we'll fix that. You'll

00:18:34.859 --> 00:18:37.420
like it. I probably would, being that it's an

00:18:37.420 --> 00:18:41.299
ale. It's a scotch ale. Scotch ale, sorry. Correction.

00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.539
Just saying. So, circling back to the you don't

00:18:45.539 --> 00:18:47.500
have enough gray in your beard, apparently I

00:18:47.500 --> 00:18:50.859
do. Yeah. And apparently I'm officially old.

00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:55.519
Okay. Because I got my first invite to the Old

00:18:55.519 --> 00:19:00.440
Guide Saturday breakfast meeting. Who puts this

00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:04.759
on? Well, it's a couple of, there's current Pine

00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:07.220
Cove guys and former Pine Cove guys, apparently,

00:19:07.299 --> 00:19:11.410
in this group. You just got to be real old? Or

00:19:11.410 --> 00:19:15.390
at least look old enough. Just saying. So Joe

00:19:15.390 --> 00:19:19.470
walked in and he's like, how old are you? I'm

00:19:19.470 --> 00:19:22.710
like, I'm 48, about to be 49. He's like, you're

00:19:22.710 --> 00:19:25.930
not 50 yet? I'm like, no, but I kind of look

00:19:25.930 --> 00:19:28.549
it in the, in the beard. And he's like, maybe

00:19:28.549 --> 00:19:31.569
that's why I thought you were 50. I'm like, okay.

00:19:31.670 --> 00:19:33.450
And he's like, well, there's a group of guys

00:19:33.450 --> 00:19:35.190
that get together on Saturdays. Do you want an

00:19:35.190 --> 00:19:40.190
invite? Sure. Sounds like they're not getting

00:19:40.190 --> 00:19:43.250
together to play paintball. No, no, no, no, no.

00:19:44.130 --> 00:19:48.670
So I'll report back on that with this upcoming

00:19:48.670 --> 00:19:50.769
Saturday. That would be great. Unless it's like

00:19:50.769 --> 00:19:52.549
Fight Club and you can't talk about it. Yes.

00:19:52.750 --> 00:19:55.130
The first rule about Old Guys Club is you can't

00:19:55.130 --> 00:19:56.069
talk about it. You can't talk about Old Guys

00:19:56.069 --> 00:19:58.009
Club. So I'm already breaking the rules. Well,

00:19:58.029 --> 00:19:59.150
I don't know. They haven't told you the rules

00:19:59.150 --> 00:20:01.269
yet. Yeah. It could just be that you have to

00:20:01.269 --> 00:20:03.569
have gray in your beard. I wasn't quite ready

00:20:03.569 --> 00:20:07.730
for the Old Guy group invite. Nope. But it sounds

00:20:07.730 --> 00:20:09.650
like I'll be the youngest guy in the group. I

00:20:09.650 --> 00:20:15.109
do have some gray in this long beard. You had

00:20:15.109 --> 00:20:17.609
a lot of comments this past week about how long

00:20:17.609 --> 00:20:22.390
it was. That's when you got to start deciding

00:20:22.390 --> 00:20:29.009
if it's worth keeping it long. You have to decide

00:20:29.009 --> 00:20:31.470
whether or not it's worth the comments that you're

00:20:31.470 --> 00:20:35.269
going to get from now on. You know what I mean?

00:20:35.740 --> 00:20:40.980
It's just going to get worse. It's all gone.

00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:46.319
Very sad over there. There was a look of longing

00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:49.599
that was happening at the can. This is like the

00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:57.579
Triple Mash. That was such an amazing beer. And

00:20:57.579 --> 00:21:01.279
to be as high a content as it was, and they masked

00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:04.380
it so well. And then you get done and you're

00:21:04.380 --> 00:21:07.839
like, Oh, I didn't want to share that bottle

00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:14.880
after all. Yeah. I've told you my favorite. I

00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:21.359
think my favorite. I drink wine. Yes. We've talked

00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:25.539
about this, I think. Which always makes me feel

00:21:25.539 --> 00:21:29.579
really frou -frou. But you look at the wines

00:21:29.579 --> 00:21:33.099
that I drink, and it feels less frou -frou to

00:21:33.099 --> 00:21:36.259
me. I like Keepersall because it's from here.

00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:39.259
Sure. And they have a red wine that's pretty

00:21:39.259 --> 00:21:44.319
dry called a Mingzell that I really like. Mingzell.

00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:52.180
It's M -E -N -G -S -E -L. Okay. So I like that.

00:21:52.460 --> 00:21:54.619
Okay. I hear you say Mingzell, and what comes

00:21:54.619 --> 00:22:00.299
to mind is everybody in the movie saying El Ming.

00:22:03.049 --> 00:22:07.970
You remember that horrible movies movie. But

00:22:07.970 --> 00:22:10.569
the other, like what this beer is reminding me

00:22:10.569 --> 00:22:12.890
of the whole reason for bringing this up, what

00:22:12.890 --> 00:22:15.410
this beer is reminding me of a lot. And it's

00:22:15.410 --> 00:22:22.670
just a way that it's the way that you can taste

00:22:22.670 --> 00:22:30.609
the bourbon in it is there's a, there's a wine.

00:22:32.549 --> 00:22:38.130
called uh cooper and thief and i was first drawn

00:22:38.130 --> 00:22:41.069
to it i'm i i will admit i get drawn into certain

00:22:41.069 --> 00:22:45.809
wine purchases because of labels okay fair um

00:22:45.809 --> 00:22:49.289
i it happens the same with with liquor too like

00:22:49.289 --> 00:22:51.950
the label or the bottle shape or whatever kind

00:22:51.950 --> 00:22:54.829
of gets me interested and i'll read i won't just

00:22:54.829 --> 00:22:57.509
like purchase everything that looks interesting

00:22:57.509 --> 00:23:04.700
to me not quite that Over the top, but or I guess

00:23:04.700 --> 00:23:11.259
wealthy. That's probably what it is. But Cooper

00:23:11.259 --> 00:23:13.920
and Thief got me because they have their wine

00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:20.400
bottle is like squatty. It looks like it should

00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:24.180
be on a pirate ship. Oh, OK. So it's like it's

00:23:24.180 --> 00:23:27.400
not it's not undersized. It's just like it's

00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:30.759
got the. neck of the bottle is straight and then

00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:35.940
it kind of is it's not the same shape as other

00:23:35.940 --> 00:23:39.019
wine bottles it's a little bit squattier okay

00:23:39.019 --> 00:23:42.319
best way i can describe it um but then i read

00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:44.859
the thing and the one that we have around here

00:23:44.859 --> 00:23:49.119
um in tyler mostly um that i've seen is the cooper

00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:58.940
and thief uh red wine blend But I think all of

00:23:58.940 --> 00:24:04.880
them are aged in bourbon, maybe just whiskey.

00:24:06.339 --> 00:24:08.779
Oh, they've got one that's aged in a brandy barrel.

00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:13.980
So they take bourbon barrels, or I guess in that

00:24:13.980 --> 00:24:16.880
one case a brandy barrel, and they age their

00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:20.730
wine for three years. Or three months, not three

00:24:20.730 --> 00:24:23.569
years, sorry. Three months in that at the very,

00:24:23.609 --> 00:24:30.589
I guess, end of the process. And like that red

00:24:30.589 --> 00:24:35.730
wine blend is like, hey, wine. Oh my gosh, there's

00:24:35.730 --> 00:24:39.730
bourbon. Okay. So it's not like, you know, I

00:24:39.730 --> 00:24:43.490
have a friend who was around here somewhere who

00:24:43.490 --> 00:24:48.740
does not do mixed drinks. He just doesn't. Okay.

00:24:48.779 --> 00:24:51.259
No, you're messing it up if you're mixing it

00:24:51.259 --> 00:24:54.400
with something. Okay. And he goes so far as to

00:24:54.400 --> 00:25:03.039
say like ice mixed drink. So that's just his

00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:10.140
personal druthers. But Cooper and Thief, it's

00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:12.980
like the closest thing that I've been comfortable

00:25:12.980 --> 00:25:16.839
to with. I mean, I like bourbon and I like wine.

00:25:17.710 --> 00:25:20.269
And you put your hands together and you get this

00:25:20.269 --> 00:25:23.450
wine. It's a neat little thought experiment,

00:25:23.609 --> 00:25:26.930
if nothing else. If any of y 'all have wine inclinations

00:25:26.930 --> 00:25:29.190
or whatever, you might look for Cooper and Thief

00:25:29.190 --> 00:25:36.170
and see if you can find one. I would say if you

00:25:36.170 --> 00:25:41.569
like these beers that have barrel aged or whatever

00:25:41.569 --> 00:25:47.940
with them and you have liked a wine before. Maybe

00:25:47.940 --> 00:25:50.619
in youthful indiscretion that you had at some

00:25:50.619 --> 00:25:55.660
point. Yeah, go check it out. Because it's definitely

00:25:55.660 --> 00:26:00.480
one of mine. I mean, I'd say a favorite. It's

00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:02.460
a go -to for sure. Like if I'm looking around

00:26:02.460 --> 00:26:04.579
and I can't really find something new that I

00:26:04.579 --> 00:26:07.380
really want to try, it's like I'll just get a

00:26:07.380 --> 00:26:09.200
Cooper and Thief because they're really good.

00:26:09.619 --> 00:26:12.240
I was looking at this. Wine for the whiskey lover.

00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:16.339
Yeah, this Ming Cell. um on their on their site

00:26:16.339 --> 00:26:19.339
and it's not bad it's 33 keepers all 33 a bottle

00:26:19.339 --> 00:26:22.460
that's not too bad uh usually you can get it

00:26:22.460 --> 00:26:25.559
for like 21 okay well on their site they say

00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:30.460
33 yep so this is for the the 2022 okay vintage

00:26:30.460 --> 00:26:35.220
but i love the very first part of what it says

00:26:35.220 --> 00:26:39.799
ming cell is the red blend wine for wine nerds

00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:45.299
i guess i'm a nerd I just really like it. Like,

00:26:45.339 --> 00:26:49.900
Lori doesn't like it as much. I think when I

00:26:49.900 --> 00:26:52.500
started really liking to drink red wine, she

00:26:52.500 --> 00:26:57.019
went kind of scuttling back to white wine. And,

00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:01.480
you know, I'm a very lucky man. My wife, more

00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:05.880
than anything else, she's going to choose bourbon,

00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:13.690
just straight bourbon. Nice. So, you know. Can't

00:27:13.690 --> 00:27:15.789
complain over here, but it was kind of funny.

00:27:15.890 --> 00:27:19.490
I was like, you want some wine? She's like, yeah,

00:27:19.509 --> 00:27:25.930
I'll take like a Pinot Grigio or a Riesling,

00:27:26.130 --> 00:27:30.069
you know, super, super sweet wine. And I was

00:27:30.069 --> 00:27:34.710
like, I was thinking more like red and dry, but

00:27:34.710 --> 00:27:40.470
okay, here we go. Can't read it on the same page.

00:27:40.609 --> 00:27:44.029
I've just never been able to do wine. Well, I

00:27:44.029 --> 00:27:47.849
mean, it's a thing for sure. I'd be interested

00:27:47.849 --> 00:27:51.049
what you would think about the Cooper and Thief

00:27:51.049 --> 00:27:54.789
because I think you really can taste the bourbon.

00:27:54.849 --> 00:28:00.069
All right. All right, Rochefort. Rochefort Trappist,

00:28:00.190 --> 00:28:02.910
number 10. It's a Belgian ale. Everybody knows

00:28:02.910 --> 00:28:05.609
what I'm referencing, right? If they've been

00:28:05.609 --> 00:28:07.789
following along on this show, they should. Okay.

00:28:09.390 --> 00:28:14.359
You're welcome to explain it. Three Musketeers

00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:20.880
from back in the day. Yes. Oh my gosh. With Charlie

00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:27.819
Sheen and is it, what's that guy's, the young,

00:28:27.819 --> 00:28:32.019
the young guy's Chris. Yeah. From the Batman.

00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:34.680
From the, he was Robin. He played Robin. He played

00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:40.019
Robin. Yeah. It's terrible. And. And. He was

00:28:40.019 --> 00:28:42.900
from Scent of a Woman. Yes, he was from Scent

00:28:42.900 --> 00:28:51.140
of a Woman. Oh, my gosh. Kiefer Sutherland. I

00:28:51.140 --> 00:28:57.640
can see him. Charlie Sheen, Kiefer Sutherland,

00:28:57.819 --> 00:29:03.900
and Oliver. Chris O'Donnell. Yeah, so Chris O'Donnell

00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:08.099
is the young one. Oliver. What is it? What's

00:29:08.099 --> 00:29:15.160
the third? Porthos. Anyway, the old, the funny.

00:29:16.220 --> 00:29:20.819
The 1993 version? The 1993 Three Musketeers.

00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:24.819
It's hilarious. Oliver Platt. Oliver Platt. I

00:29:24.819 --> 00:29:27.599
was like, I think it's Oliver. Oliver Platt at

00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:35.160
one point is insulting the Cardinals hitman guy,

00:29:35.339 --> 00:29:39.200
and he's like, real short. Isn't that a smelly

00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:43.140
sort of a cheese? Yes. I love that it's a Three

00:29:43.140 --> 00:29:46.059
Musketeers, but yet there's four of them. Yeah,

00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:48.440
I mean, that's kind of one of the, my son picked

00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:50.380
up on that. He was like, so which one are the

00:29:50.380 --> 00:29:54.500
three? And I was like, not D 'Artagnan, the other

00:29:54.500 --> 00:29:59.380
three. I did make a Mighty Man, a David's Mighty

00:29:59.380 --> 00:30:01.720
Man reference at that point. I was like, it's

00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:03.599
like the three, but you know, there's also Benaiah.

00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.599
Yeah. And a few others. And a few others. They

00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:08.980
were really important, but they're not the three.

00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:13.740
Cheers. Cheers, man. We love Trappists. I'm not

00:30:13.740 --> 00:30:15.319
going to pour that in there. Yeah, you don't

00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.420
want to mix in the, yeah. Didn't you learn anything

00:30:19.420 --> 00:30:21.660
from the Old Testament? Don't mix. Don't mix.

00:30:21.740 --> 00:30:29.539
The new wine and the old wineskins. Yes. Oh,

00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.700
that was all head. That was just a bunch of foam.

00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:44.000
Give me a second. Help me. Do over. Did not see

00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:53.700
that coming. Drag it. Okay. Okay. This is very

00:30:53.700 --> 00:30:57.380
different. Yes. From the one we just had. Yes.

00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:01.960
Not nearly as sweet. Not nearly as sweet. But

00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.299
I mean, not. Yeah. But this obviously is not

00:31:04.299 --> 00:31:08.019
barrel aged. I think because. Because it's not

00:31:08.019 --> 00:31:10.599
sweet at all and because it's a little on the

00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:20.160
warm side, there's like all of that bubble is

00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:22.779
like right on your tongue. And what's crazy,

00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:24.839
you're saying it. I agree with you that it is

00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:28.180
coming across almost warm. Yeah. But this has

00:31:28.180 --> 00:31:33.119
been in the refrigerator for a week. Yeah. I

00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.319
mean, the bottle is obviously cold. Yeah. But.

00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:41.140
It's like there's a lot of, it's like if you

00:31:41.140 --> 00:31:45.880
get a, if your Dr. Pepper has too much carbonation

00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.559
mix in it. Yeah, there's a little bit of maybe

00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:59.980
acidic. Just bubbly. Very bubbly. This one has

00:31:59.980 --> 00:32:02.700
a blurb that says, according to the Surgeon General,

00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:06.519
women should not drink alcoholic beverages. During

00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:09.220
pregnancy. Oh, no, that's not what we're talking

00:32:09.220 --> 00:32:16.420
about. Yeah. Produced by Abby N .D. DeSant Remy

00:32:16.420 --> 00:32:30.319
Rochefort, Belgium. Yes. Yeah, 11 .3 alcohol

00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:36.660
by volume. Wow. Of the... Trappists that we have,

00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:41.619
this is definitely in my top five. Yeah? Yeah,

00:32:41.660 --> 00:32:44.500
I think the... I really think if it was colder,

00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:49.119
it would be like almost refreshing. You know

00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.079
what I mean? It would be interesting to put it

00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.980
in the freezer and really let it get down and

00:32:53.980 --> 00:33:02.940
see what happens. Yeah. I mean, it is... Yeah,

00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:06.400
I'm liking it more the more I drink it. I think

00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:12.380
that that's a part of it for sure. So it's a

00:33:12.380 --> 00:33:18.000
Belgian ale, but also a Trappist. And you know

00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:22.920
how we feel. Those of you that are longtime listeners

00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:31.559
know how we feel about Trappists. Just go ahead

00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:36.099
and take my money. Yes. It's dark reddish brown,

00:33:36.299 --> 00:33:39.059
which you can't tell through the bottle. It looks

00:33:39.059 --> 00:33:43.619
very dark through the bottle. The bouquet is

00:33:43.619 --> 00:33:51.519
of port wine, leather. This is the Ron Burgundy

00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:56.140
of Trappist. Apricots, spices, and a touch of

00:33:56.140 --> 00:33:58.220
bittersweet chocolate. I don't really taste the

00:33:58.220 --> 00:34:00.420
bittersweet chocolate. I guess maybe like...

00:34:02.029 --> 00:34:04.670
I don't know that with bittersweet that I would

00:34:04.670 --> 00:34:07.150
say chocolate, but there may be something smooth

00:34:07.150 --> 00:34:09.349
about it that I'm just not picking up on. Its

00:34:09.349 --> 00:34:12.389
complex dark fruit flavors are balanced by some

00:34:12.389 --> 00:34:16.769
bitterness and a firm malt backbone. One of the

00:34:16.769 --> 00:34:23.329
world's most intriguing beverages. It ages well

00:34:23.329 --> 00:34:26.090
and can be cellared for at least five years while

00:34:26.090 --> 00:34:29.920
maintaining quality. Yeah, that feels a little

00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:31.800
bit like an IPA. You're going to be like, no,

00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:36.380
don't do that to me. World Beer Championship

00:34:36.380 --> 00:34:49.440
2004 -2006. I do like it. Yeah, it's good. You

00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:51.519
can see the coloring more in this picture on

00:34:51.519 --> 00:35:01.309
whatever website this is. I'm a fan. Good job.

00:35:01.469 --> 00:35:03.849
Good job, Monk. We appreciate you. Absolutely.

00:35:05.289 --> 00:35:10.030
Okay. So, hey, we talked for a good long time

00:35:10.030 --> 00:35:14.550
about beer. We did. Good job. We did, yes. Partially

00:35:14.550 --> 00:35:16.489
because you brought multiples. And not just saying

00:35:16.489 --> 00:35:18.849
it tastes good. No, not just saying, hey, this

00:35:18.849 --> 00:35:23.690
one tastes good. Yeah. So, you know. You have

00:35:23.690 --> 00:35:27.380
a story to tell us. So one of the things we wanted

00:35:27.380 --> 00:35:33.219
to talk about is I've been messing with, again,

00:35:33.260 --> 00:35:36.300
if you listen to us a lot, you know we talk about

00:35:36.300 --> 00:35:45.559
Ubiquity, Unify products, and one of their, I

00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.460
mean, how do you even, like, inside of their.

00:35:50.180 --> 00:35:53.880
ecosystem of suite of applications suite of applications

00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:56.380
thank you that's perfect that's exactly what

00:35:56.380 --> 00:35:58.739
i should have said you have network which is

00:35:58.739 --> 00:36:01.940
the one that most everybody knows unify for because

00:36:01.940 --> 00:36:04.519
that's what their hardware is mostly dedicated

00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:08.119
to you have protect which is kind of their next

00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:09.920
branch off of that where they started looking

00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:16.480
at like cameras and then you have i'm going to

00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:20.360
go ahead and jump to access which Beside the

00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.420
cameras was one of those like, hey, this kind

00:36:23.420 --> 00:36:24.760
of makes sense. If we're going to do cameras,

00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.699
we might want to let people into doors. They've

00:36:27.699 --> 00:36:31.219
extended that now to include things like access

00:36:31.219 --> 00:36:36.300
to EV chargers at businesses. We don't live in

00:36:36.300 --> 00:36:39.000
California, really, so that's not really that

00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:43.130
big of a deal here. um in east texas but uh they

00:36:43.130 --> 00:36:46.269
also have talk which was again i think right

00:36:46.269 --> 00:36:49.610
on the heels of protect yes um was right there

00:36:49.610 --> 00:36:52.989
in that first uh wave of additions that they

00:36:52.989 --> 00:36:54.849
made were hey if you're going to use this for

00:36:54.849 --> 00:36:58.650
all of this um network gear why don't you also

00:36:58.650 --> 00:37:02.949
use this for voip um all of your voice over ip

00:37:02.949 --> 00:37:06.590
solutions and stuff like that one of the later

00:37:06.590 --> 00:37:09.699
things that they added to their suite was something

00:37:09.699 --> 00:37:17.500
called Connect. And Connect has the flavor of

00:37:17.500 --> 00:37:21.239
Internet of Things. Yes. It would be in the IoT

00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:30.599
realm of things. And honestly, most of what I'm

00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:35.800
thinking about most of the time, dealing with...

00:37:37.380 --> 00:37:41.420
the church life in east texas internet of things

00:37:41.420 --> 00:37:43.760
is not like the top of my list it's not really

00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:46.619
what i'm worried about too much it's becoming

00:37:46.619 --> 00:37:49.840
more of what i'm worried about yes that's not

00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:51.780
worried about but thinking about on a regular

00:37:51.780 --> 00:37:54.360
basis um trying to look at the solutions that

00:37:54.360 --> 00:38:00.119
maybe you can bring to uh i don't even know how

00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.679
to say it the the what would be considered like

00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:08.920
home automation but on a yeah um more of a hospitality

00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:12.460
side of things like if i'm trying to make a room

00:38:12.460 --> 00:38:15.320
available to somebody is there a button that

00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.059
i can push that then makes it easy for them to

00:38:18.059 --> 00:38:21.780
have access to everything that they need it doesn't

00:38:21.780 --> 00:38:23.900
just turn on the lights it actually turns on

00:38:23.900 --> 00:38:27.039
the sound system it may even turn on music like

00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.480
all of these different automations that can happen

00:38:32.710 --> 00:38:36.369
to make it easier to say yes to people who want

00:38:36.369 --> 00:38:39.130
to use a space without having to have somebody

00:38:39.130 --> 00:38:43.070
there to run it. So that's kind of where we live.

00:38:43.369 --> 00:38:47.230
But the first step into this in my mind was looking

00:38:47.230 --> 00:38:49.630
at their digital signage because we use digital

00:38:49.630 --> 00:38:53.449
signage a lot and we're moving into using it

00:38:53.449 --> 00:39:02.489
even more on our campus. And so I had a, preacher

00:39:02.489 --> 00:39:07.150
not preacher I had one of our pastors come up

00:39:07.150 --> 00:39:12.369
to me and ask me about vertical displays and

00:39:12.369 --> 00:39:14.670
at first I was thinking like oh you want me to

00:39:14.670 --> 00:39:17.230
buy you an external display for your laptop that

00:39:17.230 --> 00:39:22.730
you can use vertically and I don't know you like

00:39:22.730 --> 00:39:25.980
surfing the web that way having a big long Code

00:39:25.980 --> 00:39:28.460
review. Yeah, see, if we were doing any code

00:39:28.460 --> 00:39:30.619
review, I would say yes to that, but that's not

00:39:30.619 --> 00:39:33.400
what's happening over here in this realm of things.

00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:35.659
It's just, oh, yeah, you'd like to look at your

00:39:35.659 --> 00:39:38.880
Facebook that way. That's not what he was talking

00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.820
about. One of our other pastors had gone to another

00:39:41.820 --> 00:39:50.739
church and seen some digital signage that was

00:39:50.739 --> 00:39:57.079
in a vertically. situated tv in the in the portrait

00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:01.860
mode if you will yes uh for this tv and he was

00:40:01.860 --> 00:40:04.539
like it looks like a movie poster but it's like

00:40:04.539 --> 00:40:06.360
all of their announcements are like that and

00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.280
i was like yeah i mean that's it's been possible

00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.420
for a while and this uh guy was like i think

00:40:12.420 --> 00:40:14.820
that's only possible on certain like only certain

00:40:14.820 --> 00:40:18.420
uh tvs or displays can do that i was like no

00:40:18.420 --> 00:40:23.420
there's There's a lot of ways to accomplish this

00:40:23.420 --> 00:40:26.219
and whatever. And as we started like going through,

00:40:26.300 --> 00:40:30.000
okay, if we were to proof of concept this and

00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.079
how we could use it and what it would be useful

00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:37.139
for, for our church, I started looking at the

00:40:37.139 --> 00:40:42.739
digital signage offering for ubiquity because

00:40:42.739 --> 00:40:45.440
I'm always trying to make it where I don't actually

00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:49.320
have to go like. plug in a usb somewhere correct

00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:55.199
with new slides on it yep like kill me so they

00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:59.280
have this this option um on connect which i'm

00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.340
loving um i didn't know if i was gonna like it

00:41:02.340 --> 00:41:04.659
i didn't know if it was gonna be useful turns

00:41:04.659 --> 00:41:06.760
out it's useful right now i think it's only gonna

00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.900
get more useful the more we use it but if you

00:41:09.900 --> 00:41:13.820
look in your turn in your hymn books to page

00:41:13.820 --> 00:41:23.280
connect on your SSBC or whatever, your UDM of

00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:31.940
choice set of products. Anyway, if you go to

00:41:31.940 --> 00:41:41.800
Connect, basically there are simple setup options.

00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:46.599
So you have devices. Or displays, I think is

00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:49.059
what they call them. You have automations and

00:41:49.059 --> 00:41:54.559
you have media. Super simple, right? You can

00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:58.059
do playlists of media, which is what I use most

00:41:58.059 --> 00:42:00.639
of the time. Or you can do layouts where you

00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:02.719
actually present a whole bunch of different media.

00:42:04.900 --> 00:42:10.420
Kind of in a grid pattern of some kind. And then

00:42:10.420 --> 00:42:12.659
you can do automations where you like play certain

00:42:12.659 --> 00:42:17.150
things at certain times. auto schedule turning

00:42:17.150 --> 00:42:21.550
off and on or whatever the thing is and then

00:42:21.550 --> 00:42:24.570
in the display section that's when you actually

00:42:24.570 --> 00:42:30.070
like when you adopt a display into your system

00:42:30.070 --> 00:42:35.110
you it's listed there or you can group them together

00:42:35.110 --> 00:42:38.789
where you have a group of devices that are playing

00:42:38.789 --> 00:42:42.809
the same thing i haven't used that a whole lot

00:42:42.809 --> 00:42:45.239
because we've only got two displays using this

00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.360
system right now one of them is a vertical um

00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:51.900
or a portrait mounted uh tv and the other one

00:42:51.900 --> 00:42:56.659
is just a huge enormous tv that's doing digital

00:42:56.659 --> 00:43:02.679
signage for us um funnily funnily i hate that

00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.159
word enough um they're both in the same lobby

00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:13.139
so that's kind of funny um but uh It's been really

00:43:13.139 --> 00:43:16.360
nice because basically I just load the content

00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.320
that I want, put it on a playlist, and then tell

00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:23.059
the TV to play that playlist, and it just takes

00:43:23.059 --> 00:43:26.500
it from there. No big deal. There was a little

00:43:26.500 --> 00:43:34.800
bit of a setup confusion. Okay. I got a Samsung

00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:39.500
display that is one of their professional display

00:43:39.500 --> 00:43:45.360
models. that I was going to use for the movie

00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:52.380
poster display. And usually those are very simple.

00:43:52.539 --> 00:44:00.039
I don't really like buying smart TVs for display

00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.340
stuff because then if somebody gets a hold of

00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:04.639
a remote, then all of a sudden they're watching

00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.239
YouTube on these displays and you're like, what

00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:09.829
are you doing? And you're looking at the adults

00:44:09.829 --> 00:44:12.449
like, why did you let the child have the remote?

00:44:13.190 --> 00:44:20.590
But regardless, irregardless. So most of the

00:44:20.590 --> 00:44:25.570
time, the displays that I've bought are a little

00:44:25.570 --> 00:44:29.869
bit dumber, a little featureless inside of it.

00:44:29.909 --> 00:44:33.110
And that's been really nice. These new Samsung.

00:44:34.349 --> 00:44:37.510
display tvs are really smart and in fact as soon

00:44:37.510 --> 00:44:39.550
as i turned this thing on its side it was like

00:44:39.550 --> 00:44:42.889
oh i'm in portrait mode nice and was like like

00:44:42.889 --> 00:44:47.409
did all of its stuff to like show you all the

00:44:47.409 --> 00:44:50.030
menus in portrait and all the whatever in portrait

00:44:50.030 --> 00:44:52.150
and it's going to display whatever you're trying

00:44:52.150 --> 00:44:55.369
to display in portrait that made it a little

00:44:55.369 --> 00:45:00.590
bit difficult okay because then also on the um

00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:07.300
Unify devices, they have the ability to display

00:45:07.300 --> 00:45:09.860
whatever they're displaying in portrait or landscape.

00:45:10.219 --> 00:45:15.519
Sure. They want to be the ones to turn that sideways

00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:19.360
or not. And so basically what was happening was

00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:23.539
I had to kind of shut down both of them in terms

00:45:23.539 --> 00:45:29.239
of auto -configuring or doing any kind of whatever

00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:35.010
and just say like, ah, no. this is just put it

00:45:35.010 --> 00:45:36.989
in landscape. You put it in landscape. I'm going

00:45:36.989 --> 00:45:44.150
to lay this graphic on its side. Like y 'all

00:45:44.150 --> 00:45:46.690
can't figure out who's the boss. Yeah. Cause

00:45:46.690 --> 00:45:48.630
it was like shrinking things or then it was like

00:45:48.630 --> 00:45:52.389
only displaying them in partial. And it was,

00:45:52.389 --> 00:45:56.349
it was just a mess. So there's probably some

00:45:56.349 --> 00:45:57.789
like back and forth that I could have figured

00:45:57.789 --> 00:46:01.059
out how to do it with one of them. being more

00:46:01.059 --> 00:46:04.280
of the boss but i just decided to take over sure

00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:08.179
because i'd rather it work than have any of that

00:46:08.179 --> 00:46:14.039
automated so anyway um so that's kind of a fun

00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.980
um side of this uh the other tv that i ended

00:46:16.980 --> 00:46:19.440
up using is in landscape mode and it was just

00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.960
this enormous sony tv that was donated to us

00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:29.000
um that somebody who wanted a big TV in this

00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:35.539
foyer that we have called dibs on. So all that

00:46:35.539 --> 00:46:37.920
to say, the other piece of this that we haven't

00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:41.559
talked about really at all is I actually bought

00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:45.239
the two different kinds of what they, what ubiquity

00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.159
calls the UC cast. They've got the UC cast light

00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:53.260
and the UC cast pro. The other offering that

00:46:53.260 --> 00:46:57.210
they have is the UC cast. delay or not cast i

00:46:57.210 --> 00:47:00.650
think it's just the uc display whatever the one

00:47:00.650 --> 00:47:03.650
is that like is it's got the screen attached

00:47:03.650 --> 00:47:07.570
to it okay but the light and the pro are basically

00:47:07.570 --> 00:47:14.289
the same form factor as each other but one of

00:47:14.289 --> 00:47:20.250
them has a an ethernet cable port sorry not cable

00:47:20.250 --> 00:47:26.429
ethernet port and the other one does not I believe.

00:47:27.210 --> 00:47:30.289
I think you're right, yeah. They both are powered

00:47:30.289 --> 00:47:33.789
over USB -C, so you have to figure out a USB

00:47:33.789 --> 00:47:40.489
-C power situation. That wasn't tough in either

00:47:40.489 --> 00:47:42.429
one of these situations. I just kind of plugged

00:47:42.429 --> 00:47:46.849
them into the same plug as the TV. It's probably

00:47:46.849 --> 00:47:51.730
possible on some of the TVs that have USB outs

00:47:51.730 --> 00:47:56.400
on them or a USB. A, whatever. Those may have

00:47:56.400 --> 00:48:00.239
power delivery in them as well. And I didn't

00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.699
get the specs on how much power is required because

00:48:04.699 --> 00:48:15.820
I just used a regular, you know, tiny guy charging

00:48:15.820 --> 00:48:20.820
brick. But they're really handy because they're

00:48:20.820 --> 00:48:28.769
small. three and a half, four inches maybe, by

00:48:28.769 --> 00:48:33.230
two inches wide, and only like an inch, inch

00:48:33.230 --> 00:48:38.590
and a half thick. Kind of a smooth, rounded look

00:48:38.590 --> 00:48:42.329
to them. Right now they're just made in black.

00:48:42.449 --> 00:48:45.570
I don't think that they have them in white. The

00:48:45.570 --> 00:48:48.409
white may come just because a lot of times when

00:48:48.409 --> 00:48:50.730
they make these things, sometimes they like to

00:48:50.730 --> 00:48:54.769
have... uh a white version in case somebody's

00:48:54.769 --> 00:48:57.489
fully white behind their tv or something like

00:48:57.489 --> 00:49:00.010
that but most of the time they're mounted right

00:49:00.010 --> 00:49:02.309
behind the tv they come with a cool little um

00:49:02.309 --> 00:49:06.070
mounting system which is very easy to either

00:49:06.070 --> 00:49:09.690
um uh drill into the wall or not drill in the

00:49:09.690 --> 00:49:11.469
wall but like screw into the wall real quick

00:49:11.469 --> 00:49:14.150
i wouldn't even mess with the i would just get

00:49:14.150 --> 00:49:17.070
drywall screws and put it in the wall it it's

00:49:17.070 --> 00:49:19.750
there's no weight on it it's not that kind of

00:49:19.750 --> 00:49:25.159
thing but they do provide anchor drywall anchors

00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:27.460
for you to be able to put them in more securely

00:49:27.460 --> 00:49:31.059
i actually ended up because they also give you

00:49:31.059 --> 00:49:35.840
two zip ties with each setup and i ended up zip

00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:39.820
tying it to a place on the wall mount for the

00:49:39.820 --> 00:49:43.000
tv it was just easy to kind of get it up and

00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.380
out of the way yeah it's always connected to

00:49:45.380 --> 00:49:48.579
the tv so the hdmi wasn't getting pulled or anything

00:49:48.579 --> 00:49:51.699
like that but it connects over hdmi to the tv

00:49:51.699 --> 00:49:57.280
it connects over usbc to the power and then it

00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:02.019
can either both of them are able to wirelessly

00:50:02.019 --> 00:50:10.179
connect to your ap but the Pro is actually also

00:50:10.179 --> 00:50:14.539
able to be hardwired in. Yeah, PoE. And it's

00:50:14.539 --> 00:50:16.860
PoE. So if you don't want to use the USB -C,

00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:21.440
you can just plug into your network switch that

00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:26.420
has PoE and you're good to go. And you also have

00:50:26.420 --> 00:50:30.099
the reliability then of the hardwired Ethernet

00:50:30.099 --> 00:50:34.860
cable. I really liked it. I wasn't actually expecting

00:50:34.860 --> 00:50:39.159
a whole lot there. I expected it to work, don't

00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:43.079
get me wrong. And I wasn't disappointed in that.

00:50:43.739 --> 00:50:47.800
But I don't think that I expected to enjoy the

00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:55.420
interface of it as much as I do. The UI is very

00:50:55.420 --> 00:50:57.820
basic. It's not something that you're going to

00:50:57.820 --> 00:51:00.639
write home about or tell somebody else that they

00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:05.239
need to adopt this type of... gooey or anything

00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:09.239
like that but just to be able to take care of

00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:12.800
it in the same place and as we're trying to in

00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.599
our realm of solutions trying to look at making

00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:22.519
certain things not having as many things that

00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:28.340
people are logging into if we look at the like

00:51:28.340 --> 00:51:31.340
I'm going to be able to give permissions as soon

00:51:31.340 --> 00:51:37.449
as we really where our active directory replacement

00:51:37.449 --> 00:51:42.710
is going to live. I'm going to be able to assign

00:51:42.710 --> 00:51:48.250
users to this solution, and I don't have to give

00:51:48.250 --> 00:51:51.590
them permissions on any other of the Ubiquiti

00:51:51.590 --> 00:51:58.309
offerings inside of the suite, but that's going

00:51:58.309 --> 00:52:02.639
to be where we give people Wi -Fi. That's where

00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:06.179
we give people VPN credentials. If we were using

00:52:06.179 --> 00:52:08.159
it for door access, that's how they would get

00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:10.739
access to door, which I'm hoping one of these

00:52:10.739 --> 00:52:14.460
days we'll be able to move our cameras and door

00:52:14.460 --> 00:52:19.960
locks over to that. But that's a ways off. But

00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.059
then to be able to say like, hey, you're going

00:52:22.059 --> 00:52:24.619
to be in charge of making sure that this TV or

00:52:24.619 --> 00:52:28.579
this group of TVs or this building and all of

00:52:28.579 --> 00:52:31.869
its TVs. that they have everything that they

00:52:31.869 --> 00:52:36.349
need, I think this is going to be a good solution.

00:52:37.090 --> 00:52:39.650
And it looks like it's flexible enough to really

00:52:39.650 --> 00:52:45.010
make that a possibility and not have to be, I

00:52:45.010 --> 00:52:50.030
don't know, I'm not going to have to spend a

00:52:50.030 --> 00:52:54.389
whole lot of time training on this. Anyway, that's

00:52:54.389 --> 00:52:57.329
what I wanted to talk about with that. If any

00:52:57.329 --> 00:53:01.579
of y 'all have... are using Ubiquiti solutions

00:53:01.579 --> 00:53:05.340
and are using Connect, I'd love to hear how you're

00:53:05.340 --> 00:53:08.559
able to do it. Yeah. Especially if any of y 'all

00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.559
have messed with the amp at all, because that

00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:15.019
sounds like a lot of fun. It does. Yeah, so it

00:53:15.019 --> 00:53:18.460
looks like the, just looking at the power you

00:53:18.460 --> 00:53:23.659
were talking about, the light is five volts at

00:53:23.659 --> 00:53:25.940
one amp, so you're only talking five watts. Okay.

00:53:26.099 --> 00:53:31.119
So that's not too much. And then the Pro is the

00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:33.500
PoE that we talked about. It's just original

00:53:33.500 --> 00:53:39.320
PoE. So you're talking 15 watts. Wow, that's...

00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:42.300
So not too much there. Just sucking the power,

00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.760
huh? Yeah, that's not bad at all. Not bad at

00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.780
all. Seems like you can get away with a lot there.

00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.099
And more than likely, if you do have some sort

00:53:53.099 --> 00:53:58.369
of TV, USB... Power delivery, which I've used

00:53:58.369 --> 00:54:02.550
before for other smaller pieces of equipment,

00:54:02.690 --> 00:54:07.110
like an IR reader and things like that. You can

00:54:07.110 --> 00:54:08.949
probably get away with it. I would think so,

00:54:08.969 --> 00:54:11.010
yeah. On the light with the 5 watts, I think

00:54:11.010 --> 00:54:13.550
that would work. The first generation Chromecast,

00:54:13.690 --> 00:54:16.190
when they came out, you could get enough power

00:54:16.190 --> 00:54:19.730
out of the USB port on your TV. But as they've

00:54:19.730 --> 00:54:22.889
gotten a little more power hungry, you've had

00:54:22.889 --> 00:54:27.440
to go to the wall ward, unfortunately. Well,

00:54:27.460 --> 00:54:33.420
there you go. Nice. I like it. Do you want to

00:54:33.420 --> 00:54:38.019
talk about your... Sorry, folks. Yeah, we're

00:54:38.019 --> 00:54:40.800
both like sniffling over here now. It's getting

00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:46.360
worse. Yeah. Yeah. This is where I need to steal

00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:51.360
the jingle from my favorite podcast for now entering

00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:54.599
second half of show. Yeah. We kind of talked

00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:57.130
about the idea that... First part of the show

00:54:57.130 --> 00:55:01.369
is beer and introduction and whatever main topic

00:55:01.369 --> 00:55:03.269
we want to talk about. And then the second half

00:55:03.269 --> 00:55:06.909
of show would be boost when we get them back.

00:55:07.909 --> 00:55:09.989
Jason and I are working on that. I think we've

00:55:09.989 --> 00:55:14.630
got a solution we'll know after this show. And

00:55:14.630 --> 00:55:18.769
then bring in a security topic for the show.

00:55:20.630 --> 00:55:27.099
Security topic. Yeah. Woo. So we'd like, yes,

00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:32.599
we should have like the strong, bad, like a car

00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:36.679
alarm. Yes. Anyway, you, you say that we, you,

00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.659
we, you, and it makes me think from the movie

00:55:39.659 --> 00:55:41.780
Kung Pao and the fist. I assume you've probably

00:55:41.780 --> 00:55:44.940
never seen it or have you? Yes. So you remember

00:55:44.940 --> 00:55:49.880
the lady? Yeah. That's what that made me think

00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:53.559
of. I'm glad to know you've seen the movie. So

00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.199
did you see the, I'm curious, did you see the

00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:59.119
movie of your own choice or were you forced into

00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:02.099
it? I was suggested into it. I wasn't forced

00:56:02.099 --> 00:56:05.199
into it. Do I know who suggested it to you? No,

00:56:05.219 --> 00:56:07.980
it was my cousin. So I find it intriguing that

00:56:07.980 --> 00:56:10.940
it came as a suggestion. Yeah. It was like, Hey,

00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:14.980
I, I watched this movie and it's hilarious and

00:56:14.980 --> 00:56:17.320
you need to watch it with me. I love that movie.

00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:19.760
That's, that's why I'm, why I'm asking. I absolutely

00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:23.860
love it. Well, you're not the only one. No, no,

00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:26.900
no, no, no. I've drug a few people into making

00:56:26.900 --> 00:56:29.900
them watch it, and they laughed their butt off.

00:56:30.579 --> 00:56:31.960
And then, of course, at the end, they're like,

00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:35.840
yeah, I'll never watch that again. But you enjoyed

00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:37.860
yourself. That's right. Yes, but I will never

00:56:37.860 --> 00:56:40.300
watch it again. And it's like, okay, fair enough.

00:56:42.860 --> 00:56:47.159
Yeah. Your clothes are now red. Your clothes

00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:51.400
are now black. Sorry for those of you that don't

00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:54.780
get it. Just go watch the movie. Yes. We'll have

00:56:54.780 --> 00:56:58.960
a look at your show notes, and it'll be right

00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:00.480
there. You'll have to find the link. If nothing

00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:02.760
else, there's some really good collection of

00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:05.699
clips on YouTube. Is it something that you can

00:57:05.699 --> 00:57:08.159
stream now, or are we going to purchase? Hold

00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:10.599
on. I bet it costs. I'm going to let you look

00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.460
it up. Yeah, I bet so too. This is not the kind

00:57:13.460 --> 00:57:14.960
of thing that somebody's going to have just lying

00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.760
around. No. Unless you're like me and own the

00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:25.940
DVD. Yeah. This is where I need to be able to

00:57:25.940 --> 00:57:34.019
jack directly into the roadcaster for this. Exactly.

00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:42.440
You will all refer to me by the name Betty. I

00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:45.039
mean, if you really want me to, Chris, but...

00:57:45.230 --> 00:57:47.110
And I love the - Feels a little bit weird to

00:57:47.110 --> 00:57:51.710
call you Betty. Master Tang. Master Tang. Yeah.

00:57:52.010 --> 00:57:56.329
And he's walking in, Taco Bell, Taco Bell, product

00:57:56.329 --> 00:57:59.010
placement with Taco Bell. Eat your rito, mucho

00:57:59.010 --> 00:58:05.289
burrito. Master Tang, why are you here? I have

00:58:05.289 --> 00:58:09.239
come to kick butt. To kick butt. But he - drops

00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:10.940
the word yeah it's a different different word

00:58:10.940 --> 00:58:13.679
there yeah i'll i'll um how did he say it uh

00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:17.639
i'll shake your bouncy booty oh my gosh i don't

00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:19.460
think i even realized that's what he said that's

00:58:19.460 --> 00:58:21.179
what he said yeah that's what uh the betty character

00:58:21.179 --> 00:58:24.800
says i'll shake your bouncy booty hit it and

00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:27.119
then the guy's got the big boom box yeah then

00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:32.019
you can't touch this oh yeah i will at least

00:58:32.019 --> 00:58:35.599
maybe try to find a youtube video to point some

00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:38.110
people to so they know we're not just Gone mentally

00:58:38.110 --> 00:58:43.269
insane. I mean, that doesn't have anything to

00:58:43.269 --> 00:58:47.130
do with it. I blame the beer. I don't. It's a

00:58:47.130 --> 00:58:49.909
delicious beer. It is. You can't be blamed for

00:58:49.909 --> 00:58:52.409
anything. Yeah, in fact, I'm almost ready to

00:58:52.409 --> 00:58:57.690
rip in the number three. So, talking security.

00:58:58.010 --> 00:59:01.269
Yep. You mentioned IoT, so thank you for the

00:59:01.269 --> 00:59:04.190
segue here. Yeah. Now, those who know me are

00:59:04.190 --> 00:59:05.789
probably going to say I chose this one on purpose.

00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:09.820
But this is talking about an IoT vulnerability.

00:59:10.340 --> 00:59:13.639
Okay. And that there are 17 vulnerabilities.

00:59:13.900 --> 00:59:16.480
Now, I do believe that these have all been patched.

00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:19.539
Okay. So they're not. We're not giving up a vulnerability.

00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:23.679
No. You're up to date. Yes. Now, if you're one

00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:25.800
of those people who never updates, you might

00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:27.679
have a problem. There's probably a few things

00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:30.360
that you're vulnerable to. So this collection

00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:34.139
of vulnerabilities is called Airborne. Well,

00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:39.619
that's just mean. Airborne. B -O -R -N -E. Like

00:59:39.619 --> 00:59:45.300
Jason Bourne? Well, like airborne the... Isn't

00:59:45.300 --> 00:59:49.679
there an airborne medicine? It's not really medicine.

00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:53.619
Like vitamins? Yeah. I guess it is called airborne.

00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:57.199
Anyway, go ahead. Sorry. These are vulnerabilities

00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:07.099
in... Wait for it. Airplay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:07.219 --> 01:00:09.159
I know what you're thinking. I know what you're

01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:12.800
thinking. But Chris, Apple devices don't get...

01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:16.059
Vulnerabilities. Vulnerabilities. I was going

01:00:16.059 --> 01:00:18.940
to say viruses, but vulnerabilities. Sure they

01:00:18.940 --> 01:00:21.360
don't. So all of this really just kind of comes

01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:24.860
back to what John was saying. Security on your

01:00:24.860 --> 01:00:28.480
network with IoT is absolutely critical. These

01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:31.119
things should be isolated on their own VLAN.

01:00:33.369 --> 01:00:35.610
Put any additional controls that you can with

01:00:35.610 --> 01:00:40.369
your access control lists to ensure that these

01:00:40.369 --> 01:00:43.369
devices don't talk into the rest of your network.

01:00:43.610 --> 01:00:47.510
Because with this, they were leveraging quite

01:00:47.510 --> 01:00:50.289
a few vulnerabilities, and they had a couple

01:00:50.289 --> 01:00:52.969
of different ways that they were able to go about

01:00:52.969 --> 01:00:56.710
this. Some of these were man -in -the -middle

01:00:56.710 --> 01:01:00.750
attacks. You have even some denial of service

01:01:00.750 --> 01:01:03.280
that they could do with this. They could pick

01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:05.400
up some sensitive information that you may or

01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:08.280
may not be transferring. And then there's even

01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:11.900
remote code execution that did not require the

01:01:11.900 --> 01:01:14.460
user to interact to execute the code. I hear

01:01:14.460 --> 01:01:22.440
you over there, goldfishies. So, makes me think

01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:24.239
of... Do I sound nervous? Because I'm nervous.

01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:27.380
No, that makes me... You're doing it as I'm speaking

01:01:27.380 --> 01:01:29.500
and only when I'm speaking and I think of the...

01:01:29.980 --> 01:01:32.059
videos of people making the licking sound when

01:01:32.059 --> 01:01:33.619
their cats are licking themselves and the cats

01:01:33.619 --> 01:01:35.639
stop and look at them like what what's wrong

01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:39.460
with you so um but yeah so this is a this is

01:01:39.460 --> 01:01:42.559
a great example of you can't just think of these

01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:44.199
things it's just something that i just plug into

01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:47.619
my network and i'm and i'm good uh all's right

01:01:47.619 --> 01:01:50.699
with the world you know they're unfortunately

01:01:50.699 --> 01:01:52.940
the there for a little while it was a little

01:01:52.940 --> 01:01:57.260
bit of a security by obscurity yes but it didn't

01:01:57.260 --> 01:02:03.289
take long no Anything that you're connecting.

01:02:03.929 --> 01:02:07.530
Oh yeah. Anything that is made by man is flawed,

01:02:07.690 --> 01:02:11.690
especially technology and technology. As soon

01:02:11.690 --> 01:02:17.070
as you connect it to a wider, you've got me thinking

01:02:17.070 --> 01:02:19.469
about Microsoft and them claiming that they had

01:02:19.469 --> 01:02:22.070
a security. But then when you looked into it,

01:02:22.130 --> 01:02:23.650
it was because of the device was not connected

01:02:23.650 --> 01:02:26.610
to a network. Well, yeah, that's a certain kind

01:02:26.610 --> 01:02:29.269
of security air gap. AirGap security. It's like,

01:02:29.329 --> 01:02:30.929
well, yeah, everybody has AirGap security. We

01:02:30.929 --> 01:02:34.789
live on an island. Yes. No bridges. No bridges.

01:02:36.690 --> 01:02:39.630
But all that to say, it doesn't matter who makes

01:02:39.630 --> 01:02:42.630
your device. If it's Apple, if it's Microsoft,

01:02:42.809 --> 01:02:45.030
if it's Google, it doesn't matter. It all has

01:02:45.030 --> 01:02:49.570
issues. And so we all really do need to take

01:02:49.570 --> 01:02:53.869
IoT devices seriously in terms of security. Some

01:02:53.869 --> 01:02:55.869
of them are wired. It's easy to put them on a

01:02:55.869 --> 01:02:59.980
VLAN. What you have at your home, and you're

01:02:59.980 --> 01:03:03.280
putting them on Wi -Fi, it is ideal to make sure

01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:06.699
that that Wi -Fi network is a part of your IoT

01:03:06.699 --> 01:03:10.960
VLAN. Again, so you're keeping these things isolated

01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:14.739
in sandbox as much as you can. And so obviously

01:03:14.739 --> 01:03:16.900
you're going to allow one -way communication.

01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:18.880
You're going to allow your device to send to

01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:22.539
it, but you're not allowing that device to communicate

01:03:22.539 --> 01:03:28.800
back. Yeah, that's a bad idea. Yes. Which is

01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:30.360
just one of those things that you didn't used

01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:33.800
to have to worry about, but now you do. Unfortunately,

01:03:34.139 --> 01:03:37.820
yeah, now you do. And so if you've just got the

01:03:37.820 --> 01:03:41.900
typical network equipment at home, you may or

01:03:41.900 --> 01:03:44.420
may not be able to isolate these depending upon

01:03:44.420 --> 01:03:47.280
the feature set of the vendor that you're using.

01:03:47.340 --> 01:03:50.460
If you've just got a simple El Cheapo router

01:03:50.460 --> 01:03:54.199
from Walmart or Best Buy. Ubiquity has this,

01:03:54.260 --> 01:03:57.550
though. Ubiquity does have it. And you can get

01:03:57.550 --> 01:04:00.250
it reasonably priced. But yeah, if you've just

01:04:00.250 --> 01:04:04.730
got just a simple D -Link or Netgear, there's

01:04:04.730 --> 01:04:06.610
probably not a whole lot that you can do. You

01:04:06.610 --> 01:04:09.409
get into some of their upper tier devices, they

01:04:09.409 --> 01:04:12.349
do tend to give a little more control. You can

01:04:12.349 --> 01:04:14.190
probably do a little bit with it, but probably

01:04:14.190 --> 01:04:16.690
not as much. If you're really serious about security,

01:04:16.989 --> 01:04:20.010
it won't do it. But also, I think if you're serious

01:04:20.010 --> 01:04:22.230
about security, you're probably not running D

01:04:22.230 --> 01:04:24.739
-Link and Netgear. And the price isn't really

01:04:24.739 --> 01:04:29.880
going to be a problem. Correct. Correct. So it's

01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:33.019
intriguing that somebody could leverage your

01:04:33.019 --> 01:04:41.380
Apple TV to attack your network. Yep. It's not

01:04:41.380 --> 01:04:43.400
something that you normally think about. No.

01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:46.239
And just kind of like when I hear these stories

01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:49.300
of, well, this copier was on the network, it

01:04:49.300 --> 01:04:52.360
had a vulnerability, and they leveraged it, and

01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:55.539
it's like, wait, the copier? And then you started

01:04:55.539 --> 01:04:57.920
thinking it through and you're like, well, there's

01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:00.460
a hard drive in that copier most likely. So they

01:05:00.460 --> 01:05:03.659
could drop on there whatever they wanted. There's

01:05:03.659 --> 01:05:06.780
a small computer in there. Depending on the compute,

01:05:06.980 --> 01:05:09.099
probably didn't take much to process what they

01:05:09.099 --> 01:05:12.739
need to do. And then depending on how you've

01:05:12.739 --> 01:05:17.760
configured the network portion, it might be able

01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:19.980
to do a fair amount of damage. Well, I mean,

01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.239
as soon as all they need is that backdoor into

01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:25.460
your, Correct. Computer. Yeah, once they're on

01:05:25.460 --> 01:05:27.099
the inside, it's game over. Which all of these

01:05:27.099 --> 01:05:30.340
devices give. Yes, they do. Unless they're separated.

01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:35.179
They do. That they do. But yeah, really, it's

01:05:35.179 --> 01:05:40.780
intriguing to think that it's that easy. And

01:05:40.780 --> 01:05:44.000
so I'm kind of looking through this real quick,

01:05:44.059 --> 01:05:47.519
and they're even talking about CarPlay. Really?

01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:50.940
Vulnerabilities that involve CarPlay. So that

01:05:50.940 --> 01:05:54.480
gets even crazier in that, okay, so now even

01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:56.960
my car can be compromised. Now, they're probably

01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:59.239
going to be, depending on how your system is

01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:02.820
set up, they're probably isolated, depending

01:06:02.820 --> 01:06:05.099
on how the manufacturer of your automobile put

01:06:05.099 --> 01:06:09.219
this together. I'd like to think it is. But if

01:06:09.219 --> 01:06:13.780
you've got a car that, you know, it's just a

01:06:13.780 --> 01:06:18.039
bunch of engineers, they're not going to be security

01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:22.320
experts necessarily. So the idea that somebody

01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:28.239
could take over elements of your car via car

01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:35.360
play, that's just insane. Let's see. So this

01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:37.159
says the researchers. And I'm not just talking

01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:40.340
about your seat here. No, no, no, no. This says

01:06:40.340 --> 01:06:43.480
researchers explored and tested out several attack

01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:47.809
scenarios on a car infotainment unit. through

01:06:47.809 --> 01:06:50.369
CarPlay. Again, they were able to achieve arbitrary

01:06:50.369 --> 01:06:54.130
code execution without the car owner doing anything.

01:06:54.489 --> 01:06:57.250
This type of attack could be used to track someone's

01:06:57.250 --> 01:07:00.130
movements or eavesdrop on conversations inside

01:07:00.130 --> 01:07:04.769
the car. That is just nuts. Definitely, I see

01:07:04.769 --> 01:07:07.730
the eavesdropping over. Oh, absolutely. All kinds

01:07:07.730 --> 01:07:10.750
of microphones going on. Yeah, and you're trying

01:07:10.750 --> 01:07:13.809
to get information on somebody that works for

01:07:13.809 --> 01:07:16.449
a big corporation. Your car is probably going

01:07:16.449 --> 01:07:19.309
to have car play. Did we talk about person of

01:07:19.309 --> 01:07:26.269
interest? I don't think so. I ended up watching

01:07:26.269 --> 01:07:31.469
the whole series. I think it's only got like

01:07:31.469 --> 01:07:33.670
five seasons or something like that. Is that

01:07:33.670 --> 01:07:41.090
Jim Caviezel? Yep. And there was a lot of things

01:07:41.090 --> 01:07:46.389
like that. I think one of the tools that they

01:07:46.389 --> 01:07:48.949
use the most in order to get information about

01:07:48.949 --> 01:07:53.849
whether or not somebody was... The whole premise

01:07:53.849 --> 01:07:55.369
is they get a number, but they don't know if

01:07:55.369 --> 01:07:59.030
that number is... Not the whole premise, but

01:07:59.030 --> 01:08:00.510
the basic premise is that they get a number.

01:08:00.710 --> 01:08:02.789
They don't know if that number is the perpetrator

01:08:02.789 --> 01:08:05.210
or the victim, but they know that there's a crime

01:08:05.210 --> 01:08:08.710
that's premeditated that is going to happen within

01:08:08.710 --> 01:08:15.300
the next four days or so. One of the ways that

01:08:15.300 --> 01:08:22.579
they spy on people is to use their Bluetooth

01:08:22.579 --> 01:08:27.739
to jack into listening to everything that they,

01:08:27.779 --> 01:08:33.340
they can hear on their phone. Okay. But there

01:08:33.340 --> 01:08:35.720
was also one episode where the, where there's

01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:37.880
a, you know, billionaire or something like that,

01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:41.300
that's being targeted. And they, uh, realize

01:08:41.300 --> 01:08:44.800
cause he's driving crazy that, he's not driving

01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:49.520
somebody has hacked into his car and he's controlling

01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:54.380
his car whoa now this was back in like 2011 to

01:08:54.380 --> 01:09:01.119
20 maybe 2010 to 2014 15 something like that

01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:10.359
okay so 10 years ago minimum yeah but that's

01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:11.479
the kind of thing that they were talking about

01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:17.189
then too so Now it really is like, oh, no, that's

01:09:17.189 --> 01:09:22.869
real. Oh, yeah. That's a thing. A lot of stuff

01:09:22.869 --> 01:09:29.850
to think about there and just up your awareness

01:09:29.850 --> 01:09:33.350
inside of it. I'm going to start the third. I'm

01:09:33.350 --> 01:09:40.850
going in. Okay. Do we have any boosts? No, unfortunately.

01:09:41.250 --> 01:09:43.010
That's something Jason and I are working on.

01:09:43.050 --> 01:09:46.449
I think we've got. A potential solution. Okay.

01:09:46.609 --> 01:09:49.210
So I would like to think that we will have a

01:09:49.210 --> 01:09:54.609
boost for next show. And I show no blurb on the

01:09:54.609 --> 01:09:59.010
label. But it is interesting that it says. The

01:09:59.010 --> 01:10:02.350
Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale. It says handmade.

01:10:03.489 --> 01:10:06.430
Okay. That's what it says. I don't know what

01:10:06.430 --> 01:10:07.670
that means. If they're putting it out there,

01:10:07.710 --> 01:10:13.199
I'm going to take them at face value. Okay. So

01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:19.560
they put their hands in the beer? Perhaps. In

01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:23.079
the computer? Well, the alcohol would kill off

01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:24.579
anything that they would leave behind, so I'm

01:10:24.579 --> 01:10:28.159
not going to worry. It's fine. Let's not get

01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:32.819
crazy here. It's fine. It's fine. So this document

01:10:32.819 --> 01:10:34.840
that I've been reading off of is from April,

01:10:34.899 --> 01:10:37.880
so a little bit of older information in terms

01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:40.699
of the technology world, but still relevant.

01:10:42.099 --> 01:10:44.899
So, of course, their recommendations is update

01:10:44.899 --> 01:10:51.800
to your latest version of iOS, macOS, iPadOS,

01:10:52.020 --> 01:10:57.619
tvOS, and, shockingly enough, VisionOS. How about

01:10:57.619 --> 01:11:02.720
that? They can take over your VR. I mean, I guess

01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:05.760
if somebody wanted to. Correct. And so if you

01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:07.939
find yourself in a position where you can't...

01:11:09.219 --> 01:11:12.340
because you're maybe running a really truly old

01:11:12.340 --> 01:11:15.300
device, then their recommendations is that you

01:11:15.300 --> 01:11:17.939
can manually turn the AirPlay receiver off and

01:11:17.939 --> 01:11:24.060
on. Okay. And then on your Mac laptop, because

01:11:24.060 --> 01:11:27.239
again, it's vulnerable, you can try to limit

01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:31.600
it to only the current user so that it's not

01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:34.199
allowing all potential users. That would make

01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:36.560
sense. So there are some things that you can

01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:38.739
do there to try to protect yourself if you are

01:11:38.739 --> 01:11:41.619
running some older equipment that doesn't necessarily

01:11:41.619 --> 01:11:48.899
get updates. So all that to say, IoT is a big

01:11:48.899 --> 01:11:51.159
deal. It's not going away. It's only going to

01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:53.699
grow. It's only going to become a bigger part

01:11:53.699 --> 01:11:57.359
of your network. And so you need to be taking

01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:01.199
the precautions now to prepare yourself for the

01:12:01.199 --> 01:12:05.729
security reality. It is going to be IoT into

01:12:05.729 --> 01:12:10.010
the future. It's coming. All right, before we

01:12:10.010 --> 01:12:13.729
get your thoughts on the bourbon barrel ale,

01:12:13.930 --> 01:12:19.069
this blurb from Lexington Brewing and Distilling

01:12:19.069 --> 01:12:22.489
Company. Yes. Our Kentucky Irish red ale is aged

01:12:22.489 --> 01:12:26.289
for at least six weeks in freshly decanted bourbon

01:12:26.289 --> 01:12:29.670
barrels. So six weeks is a long time, actually.

01:12:29.750 --> 01:12:32.970
Yeah. From some of Kentucky's finest distilleries.

01:12:33.430 --> 01:12:36.770
Subtle yet familiar flavors of vanilla and oak

01:12:36.770 --> 01:12:39.470
are imparted to this special ale as it rests

01:12:39.470 --> 01:12:41.949
in the charred barrels. Pleasantly smooth and

01:12:41.949 --> 01:12:48.489
robust, Kentucky bourbon ale may also be served

01:12:48.489 --> 01:12:57.710
as a what? Appetizer? Nope, aperitif. Ooh. For

01:12:57.710 --> 01:13:00.729
after dinner drink. So for those of you that

01:13:00.729 --> 01:13:02.550
just made fun of me because I didn't know what

01:13:02.550 --> 01:13:05.390
that word was, seriously, who you, like what,

01:13:05.409 --> 01:13:10.409
what it, I was, this website is from Kentucky.

01:13:10.510 --> 01:13:12.949
I wasn't expecting a hard word. It was grown.

01:13:13.170 --> 01:13:16.029
It has grown to become the flagship beer of the

01:13:16.029 --> 01:13:20.270
premier name of the premier name in barrel age

01:13:20.270 --> 01:13:22.850
beers, Lexington Brewing and Distilling Company.

01:13:22.949 --> 01:13:27.550
So they said after. Yeah. Intriguing because

01:13:27.550 --> 01:13:30.569
when you look up the definition of aperitif,

01:13:30.590 --> 01:13:34.609
it says an alcoholic drink taken before a meal

01:13:34.609 --> 01:13:38.810
to stimulate the appetite. Served as an aperitif

01:13:38.810 --> 01:13:41.189
or after dinner drink. So they're saying before

01:13:41.189 --> 01:13:44.210
or after, not during. So this is an appetizer,

01:13:44.210 --> 01:13:47.409
folks. That's what they're saying. It's a fancy

01:13:47.409 --> 01:13:51.550
word that says appetizer. All right. Tell me

01:13:51.550 --> 01:13:56.010
what you think. I like the idea of beer as an

01:13:56.010 --> 01:14:00.850
appetizer. It's won a lot of awards. Okay. Ooh,

01:14:00.970 --> 01:14:04.029
they say that you should pair it with like barbecue.

01:14:05.090 --> 01:14:09.010
Hmm. Well, I will tell you this. It pairs very

01:14:09.010 --> 01:14:13.390
well with Bernard's New York strip with the peppercorn

01:14:13.390 --> 01:14:17.810
sauce. There you go. Hard to argue with that.

01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:29.159
It's good? It's just good, man. I mean, I hate

01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:33.079
that that's the word, but it's good. I think

01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:37.880
he likes it. I do. I do. You get the bourbon.

01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:44.619
It's not bitter at all. I mean, the bitter is

01:14:44.619 --> 01:14:48.460
like almost non -existent. It's not too sweet,

01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:53.500
but you definitely get that bourbon. And it's

01:14:53.500 --> 01:14:55.720
just kind of like this is a good, smooth drinking

01:14:55.720 --> 01:15:01.500
beer. There you go. Nailed it. Absolutely. Thank

01:15:01.500 --> 01:15:03.359
you to Bernard for introducing me to that beer.

01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:08.439
Yeah, some of us don't get introduced by Bernard

01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:11.300
himself, but you know, whatever. No. So I guess

01:15:11.300 --> 01:15:15.939
another food recommendation. Yeah. If you're

01:15:15.939 --> 01:15:18.039
in Tyler. If you have an anniversary coming up

01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:21.079
for your marriage. Yes. Or even if you've been

01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:23.329
dating. You know, when you're coming up on a

01:15:23.329 --> 01:15:25.649
one -year anniversary, two -year anniversary,

01:15:25.770 --> 01:15:29.010
whatever, you got to go to Bernard's. All right.

01:15:29.029 --> 01:15:30.890
If you're dating and you've been dating for two

01:15:30.890 --> 01:15:33.970
years, just go ahead, man. Yeah, go. You can't

01:15:33.970 --> 01:15:36.609
go wrong. Just make a choice. Be prepared that

01:15:36.609 --> 01:15:38.170
it's going to take a chunk out of your wallet.

01:15:38.350 --> 01:15:42.289
Yeah. But it is worth every single penny that

01:15:42.289 --> 01:15:44.430
you're going to spend. So good. The food is top

01:15:44.430 --> 01:15:47.250
-notch. Yep. Some of the best in town. I admit

01:15:47.250 --> 01:15:51.960
my bias. Bernard is essentially my... My adopted

01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:54.079
big brother. There you go. Because when we first

01:15:54.079 --> 01:15:55.720
moved here, he lived across the street in the

01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:58.000
apartment complex. And he would come over and

01:15:58.000 --> 01:15:59.960
play G .I. Joe with me and have dinner with us

01:15:59.960 --> 01:16:02.819
when he was in college. Tag him right. So, but

01:16:02.819 --> 01:16:06.399
yeah, the food is. So good. It's worth it. Absolutely.

01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:10.220
In my opinion, again, bias, but it's the best

01:16:10.220 --> 01:16:14.319
food in town. By far. Yeah. By far. We'll take

01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:17.500
it. So, but that's what I've got on Airborne.

01:16:18.280 --> 01:16:21.859
So for the next show, we'll bring in some new

01:16:21.859 --> 01:16:26.119
vulnerability, try to keep this, keep this going,

01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:29.779
bring in different types of security issues that

01:16:29.779 --> 01:16:32.319
are out there just to kind of bring something

01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:34.439
to y 'all's attention, especially things that

01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:37.220
you would potentially run into, not just if you're

01:16:37.220 --> 01:16:38.880
an IT professional, but things that you could

01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:43.039
potentially run into at home. Hooray. It's just

01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:44.439
because you're at home doesn't mean you're safe.

01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:48.649
Yeah. And I would say that's actually, more vulnerable

01:16:48.649 --> 01:16:50.510
most of the time absolutely yeah because when

01:16:50.510 --> 01:16:53.529
you when you are at home you're naturally just

01:16:53.529 --> 01:16:56.770
going to feel safe and comfortable nobody's paying

01:16:56.770 --> 01:17:00.869
attention to this so so there you go airborne

01:17:00.869 --> 01:17:05.550
all right thanks man enjoyed it man appreciate

01:17:05.550 --> 01:17:08.470
your time always absolutely see you everybody

01:17:08.470 --> 01:17:32.020
see you I don't believe this. They're lying on

01:17:32.020 --> 01:17:32.560
the news.
