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Yeah, we got it. Technical issues. Don't worry.

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We're professionals. We're experts. We can do

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anything. Yeah. I am a professional. I get paid

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to do this stuff. Yes. Not by this show. Well,

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sort of. Sort of. Hey, Jason. Yeah, me and Culpa

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coming later. We need to apologize for something.

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Yeah. Sorry. Anyway. Hey, I bought the beer today.

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Yes, you did. because I'm getting outpaced here

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by Chris on bringing the beer. So one of our

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favorites is to go by one of our local places

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and grab a six -pack of things that are not at

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all related to each other. So we have a Sam Adams

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Boston Lager, because, you know, why not? A Ziegenbach.

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Okay. Always good. A Shiner. Also good. Staple

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of the show. And then Chris said to get him something

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dark. Yes. So I've got a Modelo Negro, a Shiner

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1909, which I don't actually think is dark, but

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it had dark, whatever you call it. And then in

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case everything else went poorly. Oh, there you

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go. A Guinness Extra Stout because I know that

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he loves that. You cannot go wrong with a Guinness.

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So help yourself, my friend. To whichever one

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of these treasures you want to start with and

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not end with. Should probably save the extra

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stout for the end. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we've

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had Shiner on the show before. We've had Modelo

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on the show before and obviously Guinness. So

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I guess I will try the 1909. I've never had it.

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Okay. Well, if it's too. But let's see. If it's

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too light, then just pass it over this way and

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I'll suffer the consequences. Do you see the

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opener? Heritage Lager. I've got one. I don't

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know what happened to the... Some of the Christians

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have been in here again, taking out our bottle

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openers. You know how those Christians can be.

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Let's see. Yeah, I'm going to wait until you

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pour that to know whether or not it's... Well,

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I'm trying to pull up a picture real quick. Oh,

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there you go. To see if I want to go this route

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or not. Just... Because it does say lager, which

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is not always dark. Not typically dark. Yeah,

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I think I'm going to pass. Okay, I'll take the

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1909. You're going to have the 1909. I will take

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the Ziegenbach. The Ziegenbach. Okay. I frosted

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my mug. Yes, you did. Just throwing it out there.

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Oh, yeah, no, that's pretty light. A little light

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in the loafers. Don't let the dark bottle and

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the dark branding fool you. No. Okay, well, I'm

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sure it's going to be great for me because I

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really like Shiner, and they haven't. Done me

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wrong yet. That looks nice and brown. Which one

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did you do? The Ziegen? Ziegenbach. Ziegenbach.

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Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. That's definitely

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a brown. Yeah. It's brown. Kind of like a Newcastle.

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Kind of like a Newcastle. Hey, cheers. Cheers.

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We're going to see what you think. Oh, yeah.

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That's a mower beer. Yeah. Okay. So 1909, go

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mow your lawn and drink this beer. I like it.

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I think it tastes great, but it is definitely

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a... I'm too much of a snob. I admit it. It's

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a summer beer. Okay, so I'm going to read this.

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Our founding year since 1909, the expert brewers

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in Shiner, Texas, have been crafting exceptional

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beers inspired by our German and Czech founders.

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To honor their legacy, we've brewed this heritage

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lager using only the same simple ingredients

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they used in 1909. heritage two row barley. I

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don't know what that means is paired with noble

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hops. Hey, noble, noble. What's up for a delightfully

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flavorful and perfectly balanced lager with a

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smooth, refreshing finish, a fitting tribute

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to over a century of brewing tradition. I can

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vouch for the smooth, refreshing finish. It's

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got that. Okay. Up on the back end. What do you

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got? I don't have a blurb. I chose the wrong

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bottle. You keep not having a blurb. That's okay.

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It just simply just says at the bottom, a Texas

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twist on a German classic. And it very much tastes

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like a Bach. Nice. It is good. Houston, Texas.

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Houston, Texas. Z and Shiner are like right there

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with each other, I feel like, for Texas brown

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ales. It's good. It's good. I approve. You approve.

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You got some, is it nutty? Is that what you're

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tasting? Mm -mm. No nut? Nope. Not in my beer.

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It's smooth. I'll give it that. I think it's

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even a hair smoother than Shiner. Not that Shiner's

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not smooth. No. So. No. That is tasty. No, I'm

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really glad I brought these Cheez -Its. Yeah,

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so we can make all the mouth noise on the mic.

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Sorry, guys. Okay. Speaking of technical issues.

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Yeah. I wanted to talk today about what happens

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when... Someone takes your baby away? When somebody

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takes your baby away. Yeah. Specifically, okay,

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IT is very rarely the top of the food chain.

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I would almost say never, but like there are

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some companies out there that this is what they

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do. This is all they do. So the IT infrastructure

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support, all of that is the like top. Right?

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Isn't it so good? Okay, so we didn't just get

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the Cheez -Its. We got the Cheddar Jack Cheez

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-Its. Yeah, you got the Cheddar Jack. And I will

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say, I love Cheez -Its. I will always love the

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original Cheez -Its. This is not a substitute.

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This is not a replacement for the original Cheez

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-Its. But these Cheddar Jack ones have been right

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at the top of my list for a little while now.

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I've not tried these before. It's so good. Here,

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maybe you can hear how good it is. There it is.

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There's you some ASMR. Okay, so what I was saying

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is most of the time if you work in IT, you're

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in a support role, which I love. Like I'm not

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mad about being in a support role at all. I really

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enjoy it. I know you really enjoy that. Yep.

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If you don't know Chris, he's one of the most

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patient people that I know, and it's really like.

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The idea of helping people that don't know what

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the heck they're doing is like another level

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with this guy. Super patient with them and then

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also super patient with people that think that

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they know better. And I like I I'm I've always

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kind of. I say been in all like I don't mean

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that in a. Fluffy. meaningless way. I mean, like,

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I really don't know how you do it without like,

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without constantly losing your cool. Because

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I was telling Colson, my boss today, like, I

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feel, I feel like I'm losing the recording triggered

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by so many things. I don't know. I'm not, it's

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red. Okay. For some reason, the red button threw

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me off. Like it wasn't supposed to be red. It

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was supposed to be green. But no, it's supposed

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to be red because the timer is still going. Yes.

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Okay. Can you tell we're a little bit nervous?

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Anyway. I can see the look. The look. But that

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like, I feel like there's so many things that

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like when somebody, because so many people have

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been so critical in so many different situations

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in ways that they don't really have like a backing

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for. And what I've always seen in Chris, and

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my partner here is the ability to not let that

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change the way that he is interacting with that

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person in the moment. I'm not good at that. I'm

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really bad at that. And so what I wanted to talk

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about today is that there are so many times that

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in IT and in AV and some of these technical roles

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that we have, Where it's like, you may know better,

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but because of one reason or another, we're going

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in a different direction. Sure. And the hardest

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thing for me lately has been these things that

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I know a lot about are no longer my responsibility

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anymore. Yeah. And how do I... interact with

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it in a helpful way while still like, it's so

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hard because I think so many of us want to help

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and want to like, I want to make this better.

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I want to fix the problem that somebody is having.

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I don't want something to fail. Correct. But

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if somebody has taken the response, like the,

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the responsibility away from me and the decision

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away from me, like there, there has to be a,

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and I got, I got in trouble for saying this wrong.

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So I'd love to know the right way to say this.

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You have to be able to kind of hand that over

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and say, okay, well, like the, the wrong way

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to say it, I guess was, You didn't do what I

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said to do, so now it's your problem. Or you

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took this responsibility away from me, so now

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you have to deal with whatever comes of that.

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That's evidently not the right way to say it.

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I think there's a way to say that that's not

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saying it quite as... as I feel it in my chest.

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Well, I mean, that's tough. You know, I mean,

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I guess kind of going back to where you started,

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I can't take credit for the patience piece. That's

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a God thing. I had a great example in my dad's

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dad as well. Nice. To see that lived out, because

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that's not my dad by any means. My dad is a...

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loud dude we need to go to war we're going to

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war let's go right now let's go right now um

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type of type of person yeah so now that doesn't

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mean that i don't lose my cool i do i certainly

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do um there are things that come my way that

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in my head i might be thinking one thing but

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i'm verbally saying something else just because

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you've got a For me, it comes into what I say.

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You can't give people the rough draft. And I

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developed that concept in my interaction with

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my wife. And if I was to always talk to my wife

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in what I call the rough draft, she would probably

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think that I'm the meanest, horrible person in

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the face of the earth. Really? But before I talk

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to her, and I try to do this with my kids too,

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but sometimes you... Fail. You fail miserably.

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And then you have to come back and I'm sorry,

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I apologize. I shouldn't have handled it that

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way. I should have taken more time to process.

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So I generally will go through two, three, maybe

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four iterations in my head before I talk to her

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about something that is truly upsetting me. There

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have been some times that I've just kind of given

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her the rough draft and you'd see that look come

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up on her face. And it's like, oh, I stepped

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in it. Too fast. Too fast. Too soon. So I guess

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what I do feel like I do a good job of is being

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able to compartmentalize that in the moment.

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Yeah, I don't know. And try to address the person.

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And regardless of my feelings in the moment,

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you know, I may want to just grab them, shake

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them and say, what in the world is wrong with

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you? Right. But that's not going to get me anywhere.

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I mean, so I have I have to try to meet them

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where they are. And I don't mean that in a demeaning

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way. Feels feels like it'll do something for

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me. Yeah. So you don't mean that in a demeaning

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way. As far as meet them where they are. I don't

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mean that in a in a demeaning way. All right.

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Let me step down to your level and I'll meet

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you where you are. I don't mean it that way.

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It's like, OK, you have. But obviously where

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they are is not where you are. Well, I mean.

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it's not their area of expertise. So I try, I

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try to remember that. And I try to remember that

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there is a time that I may have been like them

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because I haven't always known what I know. Oh,

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for sure. So I try to, I try to keep that perspective.

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Sometimes I don't do a good job with it, but

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I try. And I realized that they potentially have

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a misunderstanding of the technology. And it's

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like, well, hold up, let's walk through this.

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Let's me try to help you understand. And I realized

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there are some, Sometimes I can see the look

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on their face. They're glassing over and it's

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like, oh, stop, back up. Let's take a different

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approach to try to help them out. And I'm glad

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that most people perceive that in the way that

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I interact with them and that I'm not being a

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bully and I'm not being a jerk, although I'm

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fully capable of all those things. Now it's,

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oh, I am. Ask my kids. My family's seen a little

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bit too. Although when it's something that you

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have owned and it gets ripped from you, and I

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use rip on purpose because that's what it feels

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like in the moment. Not in the moment. It lingers.

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For a while. It lingers. But when you have your

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baby ripped from you and handed to somebody else,

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and you're going, wait, time out, what just happened?

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There was nothing wrong with that. It worked

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perfectly fine. It did everything it needed to

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do. It gave us the growth that we needed. But

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now you're basically ripping this out, handing

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it off to somebody else, and what it can feel

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like. is you're telling me I didn't know what

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I was doing. I don't know my hind end from my

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elbows, to say it nicely. And in that moment,

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I'm looking at you and going, I think you don't

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see reality. No. And yeah, you've got to be careful

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in how you speak that to people, just because

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you can make the situation much worse. And especially

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if it's a situation where you either directly

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know or your gut instinct is telling you they're

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giving something to somebody who doesn't know.

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Right. And you're sitting here going, I can't

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stop this. This train is in motion. Yeah. And

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sometimes it feels like you're sitting there

00:17:30.339 --> 00:17:34.059
watching a train wreck in slow motion. And if

00:17:34.059 --> 00:17:36.660
you attempt. Yeah, but it's like your favorite

00:17:36.660 --> 00:17:38.730
train. Yes, it was. It was, it was your favorite

00:17:38.730 --> 00:17:42.210
train. Oh my gosh. Can you hear that horn for

00:17:42.210 --> 00:17:47.170
the foamers out there? Yeah. Um, so, but yeah,

00:17:47.269 --> 00:17:50.069
you see it and you want to speak up and sometimes

00:17:50.069 --> 00:17:53.769
you do and you're basically told this isn't your

00:17:53.769 --> 00:17:57.369
domain. Yeah. And you're like, okay, so I'm going

00:17:57.369 --> 00:17:59.890
to step back and I'm not going to say I told

00:17:59.890 --> 00:18:03.769
you so. No, can't do that. I want to, but I'm

00:18:03.769 --> 00:18:07.440
not. And when this thing derails, And it's all

00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:09.960
upside down and backwards. And then you're coming

00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:13.920
and talking to me. I'm not going to say it, but

00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:15.380
I'm going to do what needs to be done to get

00:18:15.380 --> 00:18:17.420
it fixed. And I know that that person is going

00:18:17.420 --> 00:18:21.000
to sit there and go, they told me and I didn't

00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:25.400
listen. And I have to let that be enough for

00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:29.000
me to go. I did what I was supposed to do. I

00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:30.599
did what I was supposed to do. I gave you the

00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.809
warnings. it went the way it did. I'm going to

00:18:33.809 --> 00:18:36.029
help try to pick up the pieces. And I know that

00:18:36.029 --> 00:18:39.470
this person is sitting there going, I should

00:18:39.470 --> 00:18:42.349
have listened. I don't, I don't know that they

00:18:42.349 --> 00:18:44.269
are though. Like that's, what's hard for me is

00:18:44.269 --> 00:18:48.869
like, I think that sometimes bad decisions get

00:18:48.869 --> 00:18:53.289
rewarded in ways that I, I just find really unfair.

00:18:54.390 --> 00:18:57.490
That preaches there. There's a sermon there.

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I mean, it's just where you're like, Oh, you

00:19:01.940 --> 00:19:05.559
didn't, you didn't completely fall on your face.

00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:09.500
So you think everything's okay. And, and that's

00:19:09.500 --> 00:19:14.539
just like, it's hard for me to really wrap my

00:19:14.539 --> 00:19:18.220
head around inside of it because I know like

00:19:18.220 --> 00:19:27.359
in a totally hypothetical, right. A decision

00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.380
is made based on somebody's You've got a movie

00:19:30.380 --> 00:19:32.880
running through my head when you say this. Office

00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:34.200
Space, you've seen that? Office Space, yeah.

00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:36.160
And it's the Bobs talking to him, and he goes,

00:19:36.180 --> 00:19:40.960
and this is totally hypothetical. Oh, man, the

00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:44.599
Bobs. Well, totally hypothetically, a decision

00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:50.160
is made because somebody is an expert. And the

00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:53.440
further you get into the process, and you're

00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:56.750
not included in the process anymore. But the

00:19:56.750 --> 00:19:58.890
further you get into or they get into it and

00:19:58.890 --> 00:20:01.569
the further like it goes, the more you realize

00:20:01.569 --> 00:20:09.549
this person doesn't know anything about the technical

00:20:09.549 --> 00:20:17.549
side of what they're now in charge of. Yes. And

00:20:17.549 --> 00:20:20.769
you realize like your limited knowledge about

00:20:20.769 --> 00:20:28.160
something is higher than. and experts and it's

00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:32.380
just that like oh no like i know like there's

00:20:32.380 --> 00:20:35.279
no dunning kruger effect on this one like i know

00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:39.039
i know very little about this because i know

00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:41.640
that i could know a lot about this i could have

00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:44.420
taken all of these classes that i whatever and

00:20:44.420 --> 00:20:46.140
i didn't have time to because of all the other

00:20:46.140 --> 00:20:48.980
things that i was trying to make happen and you

00:20:48.980 --> 00:20:50.440
just like you don't have there are not enough

00:20:50.440 --> 00:20:52.559
hours in the day i almost ran into that again

00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:56.740
today With everybody needing, I came back from

00:20:56.740 --> 00:21:01.559
vacation last night. And so I come into work

00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:03.740
today and there's just a whole bunch of like,

00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:06.420
oh, this has to, I need this by the end of the

00:21:06.420 --> 00:21:11.960
day. And it's like, no, I've got meetings all

00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.240
day. I can't be doing. So after we get done tonight,

00:21:15.380 --> 00:21:18.339
like I'm going back to work to try to get all

00:21:18.339 --> 00:21:21.460
of the other stuff done. which is fine. Like

00:21:21.460 --> 00:21:23.140
it's not that big of a deal. And I came back

00:21:23.140 --> 00:21:27.339
from a great vacation and it's, it's, you know,

00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:31.200
it'll make the rest of the week bearable to not

00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:35.119
be, you know, in debt time -wise all the time.

00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:38.380
So I'm not like, I'm not lamenting that really

00:21:38.380 --> 00:21:40.920
at all, but it's that realization that like you,

00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:44.880
you've got only so many hours and you've always

00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:48.079
had only so many hours. And so there's some things

00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:50.440
that you know that you didn't, get to spend as

00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:53.339
much time on yeah in emerging technology that's

00:21:53.339 --> 00:21:56.700
coming out and then you're like told oh well

00:21:56.700 --> 00:22:00.319
this this person knows what that's gonna take

00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.279
and they're so they're gonna take take it and

00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.160
then the further you get into the uh you know

00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:09.000
wheel of it or whatever you realize no they don't

00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:10.819
they don't know anything about that they know

00:22:10.819 --> 00:22:14.279
less than i do about that that's scary because

00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:20.819
now like if somebody uh has a problem and they

00:22:20.819 --> 00:22:22.799
would normally come to me i'm going to have to

00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:29.180
say i don't know and is that okay that i don't

00:22:29.180 --> 00:22:32.819
know because i i had a system that i worked and

00:22:32.819 --> 00:22:38.539
i made it work with as little of my effort as

00:22:38.539 --> 00:22:42.240
i could there's still i mean you know there's

00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:45.019
not a single av or it system that i feel like

00:22:45.019 --> 00:22:48.599
you can just set it and forget it I mean, there's

00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:51.180
always updates. There's always things that need

00:22:51.180 --> 00:22:54.039
to be changed or patched or somebody will ask

00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:58.000
for some new, like, quirky thing for how it works

00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:00.579
or can we get this to talk to that and can we

00:23:00.579 --> 00:23:03.259
integrate this with that and, oh, this church

00:23:03.259 --> 00:23:06.359
that I went to has this and why can't you do

00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:10.690
it that way? And it's like, well, I can. But

00:23:10.690 --> 00:23:12.910
my guess is that church has a whole team that

00:23:12.910 --> 00:23:16.230
does that. Absolutely. And I'm one person who's

00:23:16.230 --> 00:23:19.970
also doing these other things. So there's part

00:23:19.970 --> 00:23:22.329
of me that is so grateful for the opportunity

00:23:22.329 --> 00:23:28.609
to get to not be involved in these conversations

00:23:28.609 --> 00:23:32.450
or how this goes. Yeah. But I just don't know

00:23:32.450 --> 00:23:39.400
that I can really let it go. Because I don't

00:23:39.400 --> 00:23:43.460
trust that I'm not going to be then slammed back

00:23:43.460 --> 00:23:46.859
into the middle of fixing the thing that broke.

00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:50.960
Correct. And I mean, I think that's where all

00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:53.380
this anxiety is coming from. Sure, sure. And

00:23:53.380 --> 00:23:55.380
I've worked with people, like what you're saying,

00:23:55.460 --> 00:23:58.400
that come in and just kind of turn things over.

00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:01.079
I refer to them as wrecking balls. Yeah, what

00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:04.680
is that? And then sometimes they have the ability

00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:08.079
to come in, wreck it. And then slip out the back

00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:12.700
door as if, Oh, not my problem. I was like, no,

00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.500
no, no. You came in, you, you, you, you destroyed

00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:18.299
this. Everything was fine. And now it's not.

00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.740
Yeah. Yeah. No, to your point, you know, I, I

00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:27.099
interact with people on the support side and

00:24:27.099 --> 00:24:30.400
I'm needing them to be the subject matter expert

00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:33.319
because I've reached my limits. So it's like,

00:24:33.339 --> 00:24:36.309
I have to come to you. you're the one that's

00:24:36.309 --> 00:24:38.970
supposed to know. And when I interact with them

00:24:38.970 --> 00:24:42.809
and I'm going, Oh my gosh, they don't know. Yeah.

00:24:42.990 --> 00:24:46.549
And it's like, what are we going to do here?

00:24:46.930 --> 00:24:51.430
And so then you literally just start digging

00:24:51.430 --> 00:24:53.589
in the pages of Google where you probably shouldn't

00:24:53.589 --> 00:24:56.190
be going that deep trying to find something or

00:24:56.190 --> 00:24:58.829
it's literally, yeah. Holy cow. What does this

00:24:58.829 --> 00:25:01.309
button do? What does this button do? I mean,

00:25:01.329 --> 00:25:06.069
I did sit down the other day. I'm on this because

00:25:06.069 --> 00:25:08.849
I was asking a question about how something was

00:25:08.849 --> 00:25:12.190
going to work and I was met with a very clear,

00:25:12.309 --> 00:25:16.690
I don't know, which I like, man, if you want

00:25:16.690 --> 00:25:19.569
to get me fired up, be in charge of something

00:25:19.569 --> 00:25:24.289
and then have someone ask a, I mean, I don't

00:25:24.289 --> 00:25:26.329
feel like it was a technical question. It was,

00:25:26.349 --> 00:25:29.490
I mean, it was not, it was a technical question.

00:25:29.549 --> 00:25:35.809
It was not a. out of the scope of what is happening

00:25:35.809 --> 00:25:39.490
right now question it was a okay but how do how

00:25:39.490 --> 00:25:45.589
does this signal get to this box because once

00:25:45.589 --> 00:25:49.670
it's coming in here you've you've got it routed

00:25:49.670 --> 00:25:52.930
this way and i need to take it from this place

00:25:52.930 --> 00:25:57.589
and put it in over here which the first reaction

00:25:57.589 --> 00:26:00.750
was no you don't and i was like yes i do like

00:26:00.750 --> 00:26:05.450
i don't I understand you don't see this as a

00:26:05.450 --> 00:26:09.230
thing, but it is a thing. Sure. So there was

00:26:09.230 --> 00:26:13.329
that. And then the actual answer to the question

00:26:13.329 --> 00:26:15.769
was, I don't know. Like, I don't know how to

00:26:15.769 --> 00:26:21.990
do that. Yeah. And I was like, I don't like you.

00:26:22.490 --> 00:26:27.049
That is so scary. So I'm sitting at the, you

00:26:27.049 --> 00:26:31.170
know, console or the whatever. And I'm just scrolling

00:26:31.170 --> 00:26:35.960
through. Like, okay, they don't know. So now

00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:39.220
I've got to figure out which one of these. And

00:26:39.220 --> 00:26:41.880
it's based on a system that I've never worked

00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:44.200
with. Correct. Because you don't want to see

00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:48.900
it fail. No. But you don't know it. And what

00:26:48.900 --> 00:26:52.259
you want to say, and I think there's a way to

00:26:52.259 --> 00:26:57.059
try to word it. Maybe it's hard to find in the

00:26:57.059 --> 00:27:01.599
moment, but they come to you and go. Fix it and

00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:05.779
you have to go, you took this away from me. I

00:27:05.779 --> 00:27:08.839
don't know the system enough. Yeah. You need

00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:11.619
to go to the guy that you made the owner of it.

00:27:11.700 --> 00:27:15.539
Yeah. And have him fix it. I can't. Yeah. And

00:27:15.539 --> 00:27:18.079
that can be perceived a couple of different ways.

00:27:18.460 --> 00:27:20.500
And it's like, I'm not trying to say that to

00:27:20.500 --> 00:27:23.279
be spiteful or get back at you. No. Because I

00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.720
don't want to do something. It's you've put us

00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.880
in a position where this guy had to be the expert

00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:30.190
and he doesn't know it. And then you're coming

00:27:30.190 --> 00:27:32.130
to me asking me to fix a system that I don't

00:27:32.130 --> 00:27:35.470
know. Right. It's like, I don't have anything

00:27:35.470 --> 00:27:38.750
for you. I joked there that I was for a while.

00:27:38.849 --> 00:27:41.329
I mean, it was not very long. It feels like because

00:27:41.329 --> 00:27:43.930
I'd come up with the joke and then all of a sudden

00:27:43.930 --> 00:27:47.009
it wasn't my thing anymore. But I joked that

00:27:47.009 --> 00:27:50.490
I was related to this room because of the amount

00:27:50.490 --> 00:27:53.730
of blood that came out of my hands and into the

00:27:53.730 --> 00:27:58.730
cabling to then make it a blood relative. Yeah.

00:27:59.669 --> 00:28:06.450
But, I mean, all of that to say, like, now it

00:28:06.450 --> 00:28:11.130
feels like some of that wiring blood has been

00:28:11.130 --> 00:28:14.309
taken out, so it's not my relative anymore. That

00:28:14.309 --> 00:28:18.410
was a very short -lived relationship there, even

00:28:18.410 --> 00:28:24.210
though it was years in the making. But, yeah,

00:28:24.390 --> 00:28:28.099
that's... I don't know if that's like, I don't

00:28:28.099 --> 00:28:32.319
think that it's pride. If it's pride, it feels

00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.960
like it's more along the lines of not wanting

00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:39.440
to have to say, I don't know, because I don't

00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:43.299
want to be unhelpful. But like, I really don't

00:28:43.299 --> 00:28:49.220
want to say, I don't know. I don't want to have

00:28:49.220 --> 00:28:53.599
to have somebody have an emergency and then not

00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.160
be able to fix it. Sure. I mean, there've been

00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.180
so many emergencies that it just takes a second,

00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:02.759
but I mean, run the traps. Cause I know all of

00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.799
this, you know, in my head and now it's like,

00:29:06.859 --> 00:29:09.019
Nope, don't have any of that anymore. No. I mean,

00:29:09.019 --> 00:29:11.900
there, there's some truth to saying, I don't

00:29:11.900 --> 00:29:14.420
know. You took it out of my domain. You went

00:29:14.420 --> 00:29:16.000
a whole different direction with what I don't

00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.319
know. And because it's not my domain, I didn't

00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:20.759
research it and try to learn because you've got

00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.480
me paying attention to other, other things. Yeah.

00:29:23.900 --> 00:29:26.359
But now you want me to pick this up and it's

00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.519
like, I don't have it. Yeah. And there is like

00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:36.920
the, oh, we're not going to do that. Okay. It's

00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:41.339
great until there's not another option. Sure.

00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:46.539
But I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:49.059
So I guess, I don't know. Reading between the

00:29:49.059 --> 00:29:50.940
lines here, what you've got is a guy that knows

00:29:50.940 --> 00:29:56.339
how to. Potentially do the day -to -day operation,

00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:01.079
but doesn't understand the technology enough

00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:03.799
to configure it in the multiple ways that you

00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:08.299
may end up needing it. Yes. So he knows he is

00:30:08.299 --> 00:30:13.000
more comfortable with this system than he was

00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:18.519
with the existing system. And he made it sound

00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.950
like... the existing system couldn't do what

00:30:21.950 --> 00:30:26.109
this system can do, which was really frustrating

00:30:26.109 --> 00:30:29.349
to me because I was like, okay, that's just not

00:30:29.349 --> 00:30:35.529
true. Like I don't, there's one spec, like one

00:30:35.529 --> 00:30:40.509
spec that is significantly better because it's

00:30:40.509 --> 00:30:47.269
a significant increase in cost. And I, I agree

00:30:47.269 --> 00:30:52.349
like, there's a difference between 48 kilohertz

00:30:52.349 --> 00:30:57.089
and 96 sure i get that like i'm not i'm not trying

00:30:57.089 --> 00:30:59.109
to say that that doesn't exist i'm not trying

00:30:59.109 --> 00:31:02.130
to say that people who really know can't hear

00:31:02.130 --> 00:31:05.490
that like i really do think like this is auditorially

00:31:05.490 --> 00:31:11.849
if that's a word um this is the equivalent of

00:31:11.849 --> 00:31:18.069
going from i mean 720p to 1080 or I mean, 1080

00:31:18.069 --> 00:31:21.470
to 4K or whatever the jump is that you remember

00:31:21.470 --> 00:31:23.869
looking at and going, wow, you can really tell

00:31:23.869 --> 00:31:27.710
the difference there. I get that. Not many people

00:31:27.710 --> 00:31:29.910
have that ear, to be honest with you. Way more

00:31:29.910 --> 00:31:32.950
people have that eye than have that ear. And

00:31:32.950 --> 00:31:36.869
so there's part of it that's like, okay, but

00:31:36.869 --> 00:31:39.710
can you overcome everything else that might be

00:31:39.710 --> 00:31:45.859
wrong moving to a different? The further we've

00:31:45.859 --> 00:31:50.259
got into this, the more I'm like, this person

00:31:50.259 --> 00:31:57.579
does not appear to know how to ground up, fix

00:31:57.579 --> 00:32:05.880
the problem if something goes sideways. Sometimes,

00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:10.759
unfortunately, in that moment, you just have

00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:14.119
to let people lie in the bed that they made.

00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.039
And that's not it. It's not an easy thing to

00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:20.180
watch. Nobody wants to see that. You know, your

00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:23.019
inherent nature is let's not go there. Let's

00:32:23.019 --> 00:32:27.759
figure this out. But eventually, and this is

00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:31.119
an extreme example, but, you know, eventually

00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:34.279
you got to have that intervention and go and

00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.660
pull a Padme and go, I can't go where you're

00:32:36.660 --> 00:32:40.339
going to pull some more references out. And you

00:32:40.339 --> 00:32:44.829
have to, unfortunately, let people fail. And

00:32:44.829 --> 00:32:47.289
then when they are like, well, why didn't you

00:32:47.289 --> 00:32:50.730
do something? Like, that's not my domain. You

00:32:50.730 --> 00:32:53.670
went into a direction that I don't know. My focus

00:32:53.670 --> 00:32:57.009
is on the domains that you've given me. If you're

00:32:57.009 --> 00:32:58.849
telling me that now this is going to be my domain

00:32:58.849 --> 00:33:02.549
again, then I'll get right on it. But you took

00:33:02.549 --> 00:33:04.329
this from me and you told me focus on these.

00:33:04.690 --> 00:33:06.930
And so I did exactly what you asked me to do.

00:33:08.809 --> 00:33:13.599
I'm not a mind reader. I'm not a psychic. You

00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.420
give me my marching orders and I move forward.

00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.839
Yeah, and even more than that, not even not being

00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:21.819
a mind reader or a psychic or anything, I said,

00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:25.940
I don't do this because I don't know how to do

00:33:25.940 --> 00:33:32.980
that. I just came out and said, I don't know

00:33:32.980 --> 00:33:37.559
anything about that. I mean, that's why I wouldn't

00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:41.279
do that. I would not do that. I don't know enough

00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:45.119
about that, but it's not my decision anymore.

00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:50.640
Correct. And that's tough because you know that

00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.039
you're going to be expected, but yet you weren't

00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:59.519
giving any buy -in on the solution. Beer number

00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:09.519
two. Yeah, this one's way more brown. Oh, yeah.

00:34:11.839 --> 00:34:14.199
That's the Shiner that we know and love. Yeah,

00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.739
I'm glad I handed the 1909 off to you. Yeah.

00:34:17.460 --> 00:34:19.260
Sorry, dude. I really did think that that was

00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:22.420
a darker beer than it was. Now we know. Now we

00:34:22.420 --> 00:34:27.960
know. 1909 is not a crisp beer. No. And is a

00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:35.559
lawnmower beer for me. Wow, that was... That

00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:44.289
sounded great. That's a lot of head. Holy cow.

00:34:44.550 --> 00:34:48.250
I'll let that sit for a minute. We've had this

00:34:48.250 --> 00:34:49.590
one before. This one's actually pretty good.

00:34:50.050 --> 00:34:56.050
Modelo Negro is a good beer. I like it, and I

00:34:56.050 --> 00:34:59.750
like the Dos Equis Amber. I don't know if you've

00:34:59.750 --> 00:35:02.530
ever had that, but it's definitely that good

00:35:02.530 --> 00:35:06.269
side of the red. I feel like that's the one where

00:35:06.269 --> 00:35:10.489
Jacob and I were at a Mexican restaurant in Georgia.

00:35:11.690 --> 00:35:16.130
How about that? And they were listing, uh, Modelo

00:35:16.130 --> 00:35:20.889
beers on the menu and they made it sound like

00:35:20.889 --> 00:35:26.570
they had a dark, um, Dos Equis. And I'm like,

00:35:26.630 --> 00:35:29.469
well, I want that. Right. I want to try that.

00:35:29.510 --> 00:35:31.789
I've done had that before. And then you get it

00:35:31.789 --> 00:35:35.309
and it's like, that looks like Dos Equis. Yeah.

00:35:35.650 --> 00:35:38.650
I mean, there's a, there's a, the, the Amber

00:35:38.650 --> 00:35:43.199
is, I mean, Dos Equis is just like a blonde.

00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.039
Yeah. But the Amber is a little redder. It's

00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:51.739
just not, it's not that. No, not, not really

00:35:51.739 --> 00:35:55.500
red, not really Brown. Cheers again. Cheers again.

00:36:01.539 --> 00:36:05.460
It's like coming home, baby. Yeah, it is. So,

00:36:05.539 --> 00:36:10.150
um, yeah, I mean, that's, Mostly what I wanted

00:36:10.150 --> 00:36:13.789
to talk about today is just like it's hard being

00:36:13.789 --> 00:36:28.670
in a support role without feeling like you have

00:36:28.670 --> 00:36:35.969
the confidence of the people you're supporting.

00:36:37.670 --> 00:36:39.329
And that's kind of what it's felt like for a

00:36:39.329 --> 00:36:43.090
while now for me is that like, I, I can say,

00:36:43.090 --> 00:36:46.329
no, I don't, I don't think that's a good idea

00:36:46.329 --> 00:36:49.570
or no, I don't. And I keep getting met with like,

00:36:49.710 --> 00:36:51.369
Oh yeah, I totally understand what you're saying.

00:36:52.170 --> 00:36:56.969
I understand like that, you know, when somebody

00:36:56.969 --> 00:36:58.690
has had a critique about this, they have not

00:36:58.690 --> 00:37:03.210
been able to be specific or when, you know, this

00:37:03.210 --> 00:37:07.519
or that or whatever, but it's that like, but

00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.760
we're going to try this other thing anyway. And

00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:18.679
I'm like, but I, I mean, in that moment to me,

00:37:18.699 --> 00:37:20.159
that would feel like a vote of no confidence

00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.900
in my capabilities. Right. Because you can't

00:37:22.900 --> 00:37:25.260
tell me what's wrong. No. You're just saying

00:37:25.260 --> 00:37:28.659
we're going the way this guy says. Yeah. Yes.

00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.820
That's exactly what that feels like. Oh yeah.

00:37:31.019 --> 00:37:36.420
And the, like the, No confidence is hard for

00:37:36.420 --> 00:37:42.280
me to stomach. Oh, of course. Because, you know,

00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:43.860
there's most of me that wants to be like, listen,

00:37:43.980 --> 00:37:54.099
I, number one, am not an idiot. Number two, have

00:37:54.099 --> 00:37:57.619
done most of what I've been doing for the past

00:37:57.619 --> 00:38:01.000
however many years trying to serve people, not

00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:09.440
trying to. You know, make everybody think I'm

00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.199
awesome. The goal was to fade into the background.

00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:19.619
Yeah. In so many ways. Yeah. But it's almost

00:38:19.619 --> 00:38:22.019
like because you fade into the background, now

00:38:22.019 --> 00:38:33.159
you have less weight. You have less carry. Yeah,

00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:38.579
and I deal with that even where I'm at. You know,

00:38:38.619 --> 00:38:41.380
I'm not a flashy guy. No. I'm a behind -the -scenes

00:38:41.380 --> 00:38:47.960
kind of guy. Yeah. I feel like my 19 and a half,

00:38:48.059 --> 00:38:50.539
almost 20 -year track record speaks for itself.

00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:55.340
Yeah, it does. I'm not a brash kind of guy. I'm

00:38:55.340 --> 00:38:59.079
not out there feeling like that I have to constantly...

00:38:59.990 --> 00:39:02.170
Drive people in the direction that I want them

00:39:02.170 --> 00:39:07.710
to go. No. So I tend to lead more by example.

00:39:10.389 --> 00:39:12.590
That's just what I'm comfortable with. That's

00:39:12.590 --> 00:39:17.190
my style. That's a good style. I agree. But with

00:39:17.190 --> 00:39:20.909
some folks, it's not perceived that way. And

00:39:20.909 --> 00:39:25.030
so, you know, I've recently been given some guidance

00:39:25.030 --> 00:39:30.130
on find ways to be more visible. find ways to

00:39:30.130 --> 00:39:33.929
be more of an influencer. You mean like brighter

00:39:33.929 --> 00:39:40.329
shirts? Do you have to come to work wearing one

00:39:40.329 --> 00:39:45.889
of those neon vests? Look at me. So, I mean,

00:39:45.909 --> 00:39:47.829
I'm trying to process that and understand that.

00:39:50.449 --> 00:39:54.989
It doesn't give me energy to think about doing

00:39:54.989 --> 00:39:57.800
some of that. No. Can I do it? Yeah, I absolutely

00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:02.840
can do it. I'm more likely to do it in a one

00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.260
-on -one interaction with people rather than

00:40:06.260 --> 00:40:12.659
getting in front of a group and trying to cheerlead

00:40:12.659 --> 00:40:20.179
into something. So, you know, again, I'm processing

00:40:20.179 --> 00:40:21.860
it, trying to figure out what that means, what

00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:24.480
that looks like. You know, how can I do some

00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.440
of that? Because, again, we all know if you keep

00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.380
constantly putting yourself in a position where

00:40:31.380 --> 00:40:33.619
you're constantly stretching and you're constantly

00:40:33.619 --> 00:40:39.079
going way outside of your zone, eventually you're

00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:40.940
not going to be good to anybody. Yeah, that rubber

00:40:40.940 --> 00:40:43.559
band either breaks or loses all of its tension.

00:40:43.780 --> 00:40:45.820
Correct. And so you've got to figure out how

00:40:45.820 --> 00:40:48.840
can I take pieces of this and get comfortable

00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:52.500
and go, okay, now I can take that next step out.

00:40:53.099 --> 00:40:55.320
Okay, I can take that next step out instead of

00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.280
having to feel like you've got to go all the

00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:01.199
way out there because you don't want to burn

00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.820
out. Yeah, but when you feel like you've been

00:41:05.820 --> 00:41:12.980
burnt out for five years. Sure. Sure. And again,

00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:19.219
speaking to some of this, running a filter, knowing

00:41:19.219 --> 00:41:24.269
who's listening. It can be demoralizing when

00:41:24.269 --> 00:41:28.329
you speak to something as a subject matter expert

00:41:28.329 --> 00:41:34.369
and it feels like you're being told, well, that's

00:41:34.369 --> 00:41:37.110
not what I want. Just do what I want. Yeah. And

00:41:37.110 --> 00:41:39.550
it's like, okay, I can do that. Just give me

00:41:39.550 --> 00:41:41.269
the marching orders. I mean, to tell you the

00:41:41.269 --> 00:41:47.369
truth, what's more demoralizing is when you try

00:41:47.369 --> 00:41:55.829
to explain why. And you get told that you're

00:41:55.829 --> 00:42:04.250
overselling it. Or that that's not true. When

00:42:04.250 --> 00:42:13.170
I have somebody tell me that I act like I'm the

00:42:13.170 --> 00:42:19.590
only one who knows in a certain situation, and

00:42:19.590 --> 00:42:23.780
I want to be like... Well, I don't think I'm

00:42:23.780 --> 00:42:26.380
the only one who knows, but I think the people

00:42:26.380 --> 00:42:28.920
who are saying different than I am right now

00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:36.199
don't know. So I don't know how to express that

00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:39.619
in a way that is palatable for everyone else.

00:42:39.820 --> 00:42:43.260
I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm not trying to

00:42:43.260 --> 00:42:48.780
just bully my way across everything. I'm actually

00:42:48.780 --> 00:42:54.280
really bad at... debating things i feel like

00:42:54.280 --> 00:43:01.280
i've got a lot of knowledge but sometimes that

00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.599
knowledge gets kind of pushed into separate categories

00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:08.559
in order to make this like decisions that are

00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:16.760
helpful to uh tactical issues and when i get

00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.099
asked for strategy i'm like well i know that

00:43:19.099 --> 00:43:21.079
that doesn't work And they're like, well, why

00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:25.000
doesn't it work? And I'm like, give me a minute.

00:43:25.099 --> 00:43:27.760
Like, I just need to run that back in my head

00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:32.860
because you've got it so like pulled around in

00:43:32.860 --> 00:43:39.360
different areas that you're like, I think that

00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:41.980
was like five iterations ago that we tried that

00:43:41.980 --> 00:43:45.599
and that didn't work. But like it was, oh, it

00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.940
did work. It's just unreliable or, you know,

00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:51.559
like whatever the. decision making was and then

00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:53.380
you're told like no you got to be able to explain

00:43:53.380 --> 00:43:55.820
that to everybody because everybody wants it

00:43:55.820 --> 00:43:58.579
to be different and you're like oh okay but either

00:43:58.579 --> 00:44:03.840
i'm the one who knows sure or i'm not and i don't

00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.679
like i don't value i think probably because the

00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.139
way that i was raised i don't value everybody

00:44:10.139 --> 00:44:15.119
knowing what i know sure i don't need to know

00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.039
everything that you know I need to know the things

00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.539
that I'm responsible for and know them so well

00:44:21.539 --> 00:44:25.719
that I can problem solve them immediately when

00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:31.340
there's an issue and try to like come up with

00:44:31.340 --> 00:44:35.960
the solution and, you know, be able to walk somebody

00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:38.320
through that solution. But I don't like, I don't

00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:41.340
like my, my parents were the like, because I

00:44:41.340 --> 00:44:44.739
said so parents. Yes. So there's a lot of times

00:44:44.739 --> 00:44:46.960
like Lori is really great with our kids. This,

00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:48.659
you know, bringing it back around to family.

00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:52.500
Lori's really great with our kids about telling

00:44:52.500 --> 00:44:59.420
them why. When they ask why and she gives them

00:44:59.420 --> 00:45:04.849
an explanation, I get agitated by that. And I

00:45:04.849 --> 00:45:07.449
say that she's so good at it because I know that

00:45:07.449 --> 00:45:09.869
that's a good thing that she can do for them.

00:45:10.070 --> 00:45:13.210
But I get really agitated by that because I thought

00:45:13.210 --> 00:45:16.510
that becoming an adult and gaining all of this

00:45:16.510 --> 00:45:19.469
knowledge and figuring all that and being able

00:45:19.469 --> 00:45:21.989
to do all of these things really came down to

00:45:21.989 --> 00:45:26.889
being able to accomplish things. Being able to

00:45:26.889 --> 00:45:28.570
do all these things meant that I didn't have

00:45:28.570 --> 00:45:33.800
to then explain it. Yeah. We have teachers. We

00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:36.739
have colleges. We have all of this in place.

00:45:36.820 --> 00:45:38.659
If you want to go learn how to do this, I would

00:45:38.659 --> 00:45:41.019
encourage you to go do that. It's not my job

00:45:41.019 --> 00:45:47.340
to make you knowledgeable on everything or explain

00:45:47.340 --> 00:45:52.320
to you why. And I understand some people will

00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:56.360
probably listen to that and hear that as maybe

00:45:56.360 --> 00:46:02.320
even a character flaw inside of me. see it as

00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:07.500
a character flaw i see it as a um it's a feature

00:46:07.500 --> 00:46:11.219
it's a feature listen it's a feature it was made

00:46:11.219 --> 00:46:14.880
that way no it it is a it is a byproduct of a

00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:23.679
worldview that says you don't like you i'm not

00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:25.980
telling you not to like think outside of the

00:46:25.980 --> 00:46:28.219
box or anything like that but i am telling you

00:46:28.219 --> 00:46:32.800
stay in your lane yeah And it's so hard for me

00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.860
to, like, accept that anybody can critique anything

00:46:37.860 --> 00:46:42.500
without knowledge of it. Yeah. And by knowledge

00:46:42.500 --> 00:46:46.820
of it, I mean real knowledge of it, not experiential.

00:46:46.820 --> 00:46:49.860
Like, I went to Disney World, so now I have knowledge

00:46:49.860 --> 00:46:54.380
of the rides. Okay, well, I need you to fix the

00:46:54.380 --> 00:47:00.739
track on the Haunted Mansion. Like, no, I can't

00:47:00.739 --> 00:47:03.039
do that. Well, you said you knew about the Haunted

00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:06.960
Mansion. And it's like, I went on the Haunted

00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.019
Mansion. And it's like, well, you don't know

00:47:09.019 --> 00:47:13.219
anything about it. You just experienced it. But

00:47:13.219 --> 00:47:16.699
I can say now, like, oh, well, I know the Haunted

00:47:16.699 --> 00:47:21.760
Mansion. Okay, well, that's not like, I don't

00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:24.619
value that. I don't value the person who says,

00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:27.420
I know the Haunted Mansion. Who doesn't actually

00:47:27.420 --> 00:47:30.159
know anything about it, except what they felt

00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.260
like when they went through it, what they experienced

00:47:34.260 --> 00:47:36.980
and saw, even if they were looking at the track,

00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:41.960
like I, I value the guy who like, when we're

00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:43.880
talking about the haunted mansion, I value the

00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:47.019
guy who put it together. Yes. Who said like,

00:47:47.139 --> 00:47:49.460
okay, it's gotta be at this incline. It's gotta

00:47:49.460 --> 00:47:51.780
be at this. Like we need the pumps to do this.

00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.820
We need the track to be rated to this. We gotta

00:47:54.820 --> 00:47:58.000
be able to, drop them this far and it can't go

00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.739
further and it needs to go back up to this mark.

00:48:00.820 --> 00:48:04.440
Like, so we need this piston to do this or whatever

00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.980
the thing is. Yep. That's the guy that I want

00:48:06.980 --> 00:48:08.739
to talk to whenever something goes wrong with

00:48:08.739 --> 00:48:11.159
the haunted mansion, not the guy who was like,

00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:17.739
well, I wrote it five times. So therefore I know,

00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:21.400
therefore I know it. Yep. I mean, does that make

00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:26.090
any sense? Like it, there's, It does, because

00:48:26.090 --> 00:48:30.130
what you're what you're reminding me of is recently.

00:48:30.130 --> 00:48:35.650
Whoops. Hi, Mike. Yeah, there was a Joe Rogan

00:48:35.650 --> 00:48:40.230
podcast that had Douglas Murray on it. I don't

00:48:40.230 --> 00:48:44.789
remember the guy that he was debating with on

00:48:44.789 --> 00:48:48.849
that show, but it was the subject matter of do

00:48:48.849 --> 00:48:51.250
you have to be an expert in order to speak on

00:48:51.250 --> 00:48:54.170
something? Yeah. And they were going back and

00:48:54.170 --> 00:48:58.550
forth and back and forth. And there are some

00:48:58.550 --> 00:49:00.369
subjects where maybe you don't necessarily have

00:49:00.369 --> 00:49:03.389
to be a true expert. Right. But when it comes

00:49:03.389 --> 00:49:08.750
to certain things. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. You

00:49:08.750 --> 00:49:12.510
have to, because you have to understand the history.

00:49:12.610 --> 00:49:14.530
You've got to understand the context. You have

00:49:14.530 --> 00:49:16.409
to understand the technical piece that you're

00:49:16.409 --> 00:49:20.010
in. Yeah. And that's what makes it. And I, I

00:49:20.010 --> 00:49:23.420
like. the concept, but it doesn't always translate

00:49:23.420 --> 00:49:26.860
to reality. And that is the idea that if you

00:49:26.860 --> 00:49:28.440
can't explain something, then you don't know

00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:31.260
it well enough. And I get what they're trying

00:49:31.260 --> 00:49:33.900
to say by that. Yeah. And that if you truly know

00:49:33.900 --> 00:49:35.320
something, you should be able to explain it to

00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:38.880
anybody. Right. But I think there's a limit because

00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:40.739
there are, and again, not trying to talk bad

00:49:40.739 --> 00:49:43.760
about people. I'll use my mom as an example.

00:49:44.340 --> 00:49:46.380
There are just some people in this world that

00:49:46.380 --> 00:49:49.239
are just not meant for technology. No. She can

00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.039
do certain things. Yeah. And I'm proud of how

00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:56.179
far she's come. Right. But there is just a limit.

00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:59.119
Yeah. And it's just like, she can't go any further.

00:49:59.260 --> 00:50:02.300
And it doesn't matter how I say it. How do I

00:50:02.300 --> 00:50:04.780
try to explain it? It doesn't matter what real

00:50:04.780 --> 00:50:08.320
world scenarios I pull. Right. It's just not

00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:10.940
going to be there. And that's okay. Right. And

00:50:10.940 --> 00:50:13.500
so when you're being asked, we need to explain

00:50:13.500 --> 00:50:15.940
it to everybody. And it's like, well, I need

00:50:15.940 --> 00:50:17.980
to explain it. to that person and where they

00:50:17.980 --> 00:50:20.679
are and that person where they are and that person

00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:23.300
where they are, I can try to explain it. Yeah.

00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:25.559
And I think I've explained it well. Yeah. One

00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:27.619
of you might get it. The other four is looking

00:50:27.619 --> 00:50:29.940
at me like I'm talking a foreign language. Yeah.

00:50:30.019 --> 00:50:35.159
I mean, I, I agree to an extent. Um, I, I then

00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:38.099
immediately for some reason, think about my grandmother

00:50:38.099 --> 00:50:44.650
who made the best French fries. and chicken fried

00:50:44.650 --> 00:50:47.389
steak that I think has ever existed on the planet.

00:50:47.989 --> 00:50:51.050
But when you asked her, I'm just saying like,

00:50:51.150 --> 00:50:54.130
and I feel, I feel terrible. I really do because

00:50:54.130 --> 00:50:58.530
nobody can go back and like, try it, try it because

00:50:58.530 --> 00:51:02.570
she's gone. And honestly, one of the things that

00:51:02.570 --> 00:51:06.269
I hate about it is that she's gone and she couldn't

00:51:06.269 --> 00:51:11.530
really explain how to do it. She just knew. she

00:51:11.530 --> 00:51:15.449
knew like the measuring of things based on the

00:51:15.449 --> 00:51:19.210
size of the cuts that she made on the potato.

00:51:19.309 --> 00:51:23.150
Yeah. On what kind of, what the meat looked like

00:51:23.150 --> 00:51:27.150
after she had tenderized it to then like, she

00:51:27.150 --> 00:51:29.309
knew all of the, it's like my grandfather was

00:51:29.309 --> 00:51:32.889
an incredible baker and he knew by walking out

00:51:32.889 --> 00:51:37.070
of the house in the morning, how long it was

00:51:37.070 --> 00:51:40.099
going to take the bread to rise. because he could

00:51:40.099 --> 00:51:44.079
feel the barometric pressure or whatever it is

00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.260
i don't know i don't know like the humidity the

00:51:46.260 --> 00:51:49.159
like yeah temperature all of those things he

00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:52.880
knew that but if you asked him he would have

00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:57.039
to experience it in order to tell you what the

00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.460
right answer is he couldn't say well here's the

00:51:59.460 --> 00:52:02.199
formula in order to get it sure or here's the

00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:04.780
like whatever and and so like there's there's

00:52:04.780 --> 00:52:09.989
a like Those are just innate abilities. There's

00:52:09.989 --> 00:52:14.090
an innate ability. There's a learning that you

00:52:14.090 --> 00:52:16.969
get. I don't know if you've ever done this in

00:52:16.969 --> 00:52:21.730
an IT problem that has happened, but where you're

00:52:21.730 --> 00:52:24.409
looking at the problem and you're looking at

00:52:24.409 --> 00:52:29.099
the... whatever the settings are that you're

00:52:29.099 --> 00:52:32.079
walking through and you're like i don't know

00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:34.440
let me try this and you just try a thing and

00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:37.219
it works yeah and you're like i can't really

00:52:37.219 --> 00:52:40.579
explain to you why i knew that that was yeah

00:52:40.579 --> 00:52:43.559
what was going to fix this problem i mean other

00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:46.340
than turning it off and on again sure we you

00:52:46.340 --> 00:52:50.900
know universal fix universal fix just used it

00:52:50.900 --> 00:52:55.880
a second ago but like uh the like There's some

00:52:55.880 --> 00:53:00.019
of that that I want to be like, I, I, I, I value

00:53:00.019 --> 00:53:03.139
that. I value the person who knows it so well

00:53:03.139 --> 00:53:06.500
that they don't really even know how to explain

00:53:06.500 --> 00:53:09.980
to you how they fix it. Like that's the guy I

00:53:09.980 --> 00:53:13.179
want on my team. Sure. And great. If he can like,

00:53:13.219 --> 00:53:16.440
you know, help somebody else to learn how to

00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:21.429
do that. Like, that's awesome. I hope that. You

00:53:21.429 --> 00:53:23.789
can do that, but more than likely that's going

00:53:23.789 --> 00:53:26.289
to take somebody being alongside that person

00:53:26.289 --> 00:53:31.250
for an extended period of time. And you being

00:53:31.250 --> 00:53:33.750
trusted with that. Sure. And that's, I guess

00:53:33.750 --> 00:53:36.750
that's the kind of confidence that I wish that

00:53:36.750 --> 00:53:40.070
somebody had in me inside of these moments is

00:53:40.070 --> 00:53:42.750
I wish that it was like, I don't know how he

00:53:42.750 --> 00:53:47.300
does it, but it's the, I mean. You just got the

00:53:47.300 --> 00:53:50.380
juice. That's amazing. Sure. And to your point,

00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:52.739
there are people who could literally be by that

00:53:52.739 --> 00:53:55.820
guy for 10 years and still never figure it out

00:53:55.820 --> 00:53:58.739
and get it. There are just some things that are

00:53:58.739 --> 00:54:02.039
just a gift from God. It's innate in the person.

00:54:02.539 --> 00:54:06.440
And there are some things that just can't be

00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:09.460
taught. Yeah. You can get close. You can get

00:54:09.460 --> 00:54:11.139
close. But there are just some things that just

00:54:11.139 --> 00:54:13.380
cannot be taught. My uncle worked all summer.

00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:17.090
He was an athlete. and he worked all summer with

00:54:17.090 --> 00:54:19.530
my grandfather and he could he could pull out

00:54:19.530 --> 00:54:23.449
uh six donut or one donut hole for every six

00:54:23.449 --> 00:54:25.909
that granddaddy could do or the pavar could do

00:54:25.909 --> 00:54:30.869
he he just had incredibly fast hands and i i

00:54:30.869 --> 00:54:34.550
mean you know i really do believe that if if

00:54:34.550 --> 00:54:39.789
someone is dedicated to something there's far

00:54:39.789 --> 00:54:43.909
more likelihood that if you spend 10 to 12 years

00:54:43.909 --> 00:54:47.690
doing it dedicated to it you know along some

00:54:47.690 --> 00:54:52.389
alongside somebody who is really good at it you'll

00:54:52.389 --> 00:54:59.429
probably be way better at it than reading a bunch

00:54:59.429 --> 00:55:03.090
of books on it oh yeah but some of that has to

00:55:03.090 --> 00:55:07.349
do with that like oh well it always oh it's this

00:55:07.349 --> 00:55:09.969
you should check this first well that doesn't

00:55:09.969 --> 00:55:12.050
seem to have you should check that first the

00:55:12.050 --> 00:55:16.050
number of times that it's that problem Instead

00:55:16.050 --> 00:55:18.449
of this other problem. Yep. And it doesn't seem

00:55:18.449 --> 00:55:21.389
related, but all these systems work together

00:55:21.389 --> 00:55:25.469
and it's hard to explain to somebody a system

00:55:25.469 --> 00:55:36.289
as interdependent as a network or as a sound

00:55:36.289 --> 00:55:40.510
system or as a, you know, engine. Yep. Goodness.

00:55:40.590 --> 00:55:46.920
Like it's hard to explain. why all of these things,

00:55:46.940 --> 00:55:48.599
like how much time do you have? Like I could

00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:52.380
talk about this for hours, but we don't have

00:55:52.380 --> 00:55:58.159
that much time. Like you want me to, what you

00:55:58.159 --> 00:55:59.940
want is a five minute answer. And I don't have

00:55:59.940 --> 00:56:03.199
a five minute answer for that. I have a 25 minute

00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.519
answer for that. And that's the short version.

00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:07.539
Yep. And you're going to get really tired of

00:56:07.539 --> 00:56:11.719
me and think that I'm just upselling or talking

00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.320
it. in a circle or whatever it is. It's like,

00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:18.619
no, I mean, part of this is me trying to figure

00:56:18.619 --> 00:56:21.039
out what the, what is going to make the light

00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:26.579
dawn on you that this is the right answer. And

00:56:26.579 --> 00:56:29.960
I don't, I'm not sure what that's going to take.

00:56:30.699 --> 00:56:37.099
Yep. And I don't know. It's just that like, I

00:56:37.099 --> 00:56:41.340
think some of us are made to debate. And some

00:56:41.340 --> 00:56:44.739
of us are made to get our hands dirty. Yeah.

00:56:45.139 --> 00:56:48.980
Yeah. And, and it's hard as a hands dirty person

00:56:48.980 --> 00:56:58.219
to then have a no confidence because of not being

00:56:58.219 --> 00:57:02.159
a debate person. Yeah. You don't want a debate

00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:03.719
person right now. You don't want a theoretical

00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:05.980
person right now. You don't want somebody who's

00:57:05.980 --> 00:57:08.460
all up in the clouds with this right now. You

00:57:08.460 --> 00:57:11.099
want somebody who can make this thing work. Yeah,

00:57:11.099 --> 00:57:14.179
get it done. Make it happen. Yep. You know, going

00:57:14.179 --> 00:57:18.840
back to you saying you're in it and you just

00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:20.780
innately go, okay, I'm going to try this and

00:57:20.780 --> 00:57:24.059
see what happens. Sometimes you can explain why

00:57:24.059 --> 00:57:26.449
it worked. But there are plenty of cases to where

00:57:26.449 --> 00:57:28.429
you do it and you go, that shouldn't have worked.

00:57:28.469 --> 00:57:30.250
That shouldn't have worked, but it worked. We're

00:57:30.250 --> 00:57:32.110
going to go with it. And I'm going to have to

00:57:32.110 --> 00:57:33.670
chew on that for a while and see if I can figure

00:57:33.670 --> 00:57:37.989
it out. And I've had my fair share of those.

00:57:38.070 --> 00:57:41.469
I mean, it's usually like at 1130 at night when

00:57:41.469 --> 00:57:43.309
you've been pounding on something for so long

00:57:43.309 --> 00:57:44.949
and you're like, okay, I'm going to try this

00:57:44.949 --> 00:57:47.349
thing that I've had an itching in the back of

00:57:47.349 --> 00:57:49.909
my head to try this, you know, past four hours.

00:57:50.010 --> 00:57:52.349
But I just, I can't explain why that would work.

00:57:52.590 --> 00:57:56.670
Oh my gosh, it worked. Yeah. What the heck was

00:57:56.670 --> 00:57:59.130
that? Well, that was the tiny voice speaking,

00:57:59.250 --> 00:58:00.969
but we weren't listening. No, we weren't listening.

00:58:01.530 --> 00:58:04.469
And there have been so many things. And I know

00:58:04.469 --> 00:58:06.510
you've been there. I've talked to you about this

00:58:06.510 --> 00:58:09.130
as well, that you've been at it and it's just

00:58:09.130 --> 00:58:11.530
not working. And you finally reached the point

00:58:11.530 --> 00:58:15.530
of going, I'm walking away. Yeah. And I clear

00:58:15.530 --> 00:58:18.909
my head and I get on my knees and I pray and

00:58:18.909 --> 00:58:24.460
I go, God, it's me again. Yeah. I'm still depending

00:58:24.460 --> 00:58:27.360
on me. I don't know how many times you've taught

00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:31.599
me this lesson, but we're here again. So I'm

00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:35.199
going to let go of this. I'm asking you to figure

00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:38.659
this out because if you don't fix this, I don't

00:58:38.659 --> 00:58:41.559
know how it's going to get done. And just kind

00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:45.360
of walk away from that and you walk into the

00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:50.179
problem and it's just like immediately it's fixed.

00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:52.760
And it's just kind of like. You know, if I would

00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:55.719
have done that four or five hours ago, I would

00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:58.119
have avoided all this stress and all this headache

00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:01.280
and all this downtime. And it's just like, how

00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:02.880
many times do I have to keep learning that lesson?

00:59:03.059 --> 00:59:06.460
Yeah. Because I read my Bible and I read about

00:59:06.460 --> 00:59:10.739
the Jews and the Exodus and it's just kind of

00:59:10.739 --> 00:59:13.420
like, how are they doing that? Yeah. Stop doing

00:59:13.420 --> 00:59:15.199
that. Stop doing that. You're a bunch of idgits.

00:59:15.460 --> 00:59:18.639
Yeah. And then it's like, oh, I do that too.

00:59:19.059 --> 00:59:22.510
Shoot. Yeah, I know why they did that. I would

00:59:22.510 --> 00:59:25.070
never sacrifice to a gold. Oh crap. I did that

00:59:25.070 --> 00:59:29.409
yesterday. Yes. Yes. Movie. If anybody knows

00:59:29.409 --> 00:59:34.050
that reference. So, but yeah, um, there are just

00:59:34.050 --> 00:59:36.010
some, some things that are just innate in people

00:59:36.010 --> 00:59:39.349
and you can't, you can't teach it. It's unfortunate,

00:59:39.590 --> 00:59:42.570
but you just can't teach it. And those are, those

00:59:42.570 --> 00:59:44.789
are the people that you want around. Yeah. Because

00:59:44.789 --> 00:59:46.289
they're still going to be able to teach people

00:59:46.289 --> 00:59:50.030
a ton and take them from not knowing to knowing

00:59:50.030 --> 00:59:53.139
so much. But it's going to take that person putting

00:59:53.139 --> 00:59:56.519
in the hours to hopefully build out that innate

00:59:56.519 --> 00:59:59.179
ability. And sometimes it doesn't matter how

00:59:59.179 --> 01:00:01.480
many hours you put in. It's just not. You're

01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:03.639
going to be good at what you do, but not everybody

01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:06.599
can be the great ones at what they do. Yeah.

01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:12.380
My mom calls it being born with a chip. She's

01:00:12.380 --> 01:00:17.260
like, that didn't make any sense to me, but okay,

01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:23.860
you were born with a chip. um and i joked with

01:00:23.860 --> 01:00:25.719
her that like she started using that when it

01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:28.219
came to like technology stuff but i mean it's

01:00:28.219 --> 01:00:32.280
it's all the time now yeah any physical usually

01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:39.659
it's physical um ability or i guess mental capacity

01:00:39.659 --> 01:00:42.239
for some sort of problem solving it's like oh

01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:45.059
no you're born with the chip you can see it as

01:00:45.059 --> 01:00:47.079
soon as as soon as the person tackled that problem

01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:48.619
and they got real quiet and then all of a sudden

01:00:48.619 --> 01:00:51.139
it was fixed i was like Oh, they were born with

01:00:51.139 --> 01:00:57.239
a chip. Yeah. Anyway. Hey, thanks for talking

01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:00.380
through that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We need to make

01:01:00.380 --> 01:01:04.900
an apology here. Yes. Yes, we do. Jason. Hey,

01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.219
Jason. From the bottom of our hearts. It was

01:01:08.219 --> 01:01:10.699
Albie. It wasn't me. Yeah, it wasn't our fault.

01:01:11.019 --> 01:01:15.320
But, you know. So, I will not trust the Albie

01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:19.380
Hub anymore. And I will just go back to... Signing

01:01:19.380 --> 01:01:22.039
in to the wallet. Because as I'm sitting here

01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.380
now, it says, we had issues. Well, this is funny.

01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:26.480
It says, we have issues reaching your wallet.

01:01:26.780 --> 01:01:30.679
Please review the connection and make sure you

01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:32.820
have the correct permission set. Thanks, Albie.

01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:34.639
I'm going to have to. This is about three months

01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:36.179
late. Correct. I'm going to have to go through

01:01:36.179 --> 01:01:37.639
this now and figure out what in the world are

01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:39.579
they talking about? Because I know right now

01:01:39.579 --> 01:01:43.039
my Albie hub is on. It's running. And yes, Albie,

01:01:43.099 --> 01:01:46.559
I logged in. So it's unlocked. Yeah. Don't tell

01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:49.719
me it updated or rebooted and I didn't unlock

01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.719
it, which is a whole nother mess. This should

01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:55.739
work regardless of whether I have logged into

01:01:55.739 --> 01:01:59.320
the Albie hub. Again, somebody who thinks they

01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:03.179
know better. Just, yeah. So, but we do have two

01:02:03.179 --> 01:02:06.340
boosts. They are from Jason. So he, it's still

01:02:06.340 --> 01:02:08.539
his segment. Thank you, Jason. Yes. Thank you.

01:02:08.739 --> 01:02:13.199
Both of them. Three 33. Uh, the first one came

01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:16.690
back in on May 13th. got to send something for

01:02:16.690 --> 01:02:22.110
show 33 show 33. Yes. And so he sent 333 sets.

01:02:22.309 --> 01:02:25.969
Thanks man. Yes. And then on June 3rd, he sent

01:02:25.969 --> 01:02:29.869
that same amount saying three 33 in case you

01:02:29.869 --> 01:02:32.849
missed the last three, three 33 for episode 33.

01:02:33.070 --> 01:02:36.949
We did. We unfortunately did miss it, but we've

01:02:36.949 --> 01:02:41.510
got them now. So this episode 35, this is episode

01:02:41.510 --> 01:02:46.590
36, 36. We're turning along. Goodness. We are.

01:02:46.630 --> 01:02:48.530
We're turning along. Every other week thing,

01:02:48.670 --> 01:02:53.849
we're cranking through them. Got to figure out

01:02:53.849 --> 01:02:57.329
how to make it every week. Yeah. Like I said,

01:02:57.469 --> 01:03:00.710
not enough hours in the day. Definitely not enough

01:03:00.710 --> 01:03:04.869
hours in the week. Correct. And definitely, I

01:03:04.869 --> 01:03:06.489
was telling this to somebody the other day, they

01:03:06.489 --> 01:03:08.230
were talking about like self -care or something.

01:03:09.099 --> 01:03:12.219
crappy like that and i was like um number one

01:03:12.219 --> 01:03:16.619
that is against my religion um self -care sounds

01:03:16.619 --> 01:03:19.639
like exactly what i was told not to do yep my

01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:23.280
entire growing up years but okay let's talk about

01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:26.440
self -care um how exactly do you have time for

01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:29.900
that like i'm i'm waking up in the morning going

01:03:29.900 --> 01:03:35.860
can i shower or do i gotta just go yeah don't

01:03:35.860 --> 01:03:41.219
talk to me about It's self -care time. And then

01:03:41.219 --> 01:03:45.440
we go all day long. And then we fall asleep at

01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:47.840
the end of the day. Yep. And we get up and do

01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:49.460
it again. Do it all over again. And sometimes

01:03:49.460 --> 01:03:52.599
we can't turn our brain off at night. No. And

01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:57.179
you lose sleep. Bro, I have got to get off my

01:03:57.179 --> 01:04:03.260
phone at night. Because I tell myself, you haven't

01:04:03.260 --> 01:04:07.889
had any time to veg on something. And then I

01:04:07.889 --> 01:04:09.829
veg and then I'm like, oh, I can't go to sleep

01:04:09.829 --> 01:04:13.170
now because I was vegging and that's not actually

01:04:13.170 --> 01:04:16.230
vegging. Yep. You think it's vegging. It feels

01:04:16.230 --> 01:04:19.570
like vegging. It's not vegging. It's, you know,

01:04:19.590 --> 01:04:23.070
ramping your brain up. Yep. But it's hard to

01:04:23.070 --> 01:04:25.250
convince yourself of that. Yep. I've been a midnight

01:04:25.250 --> 01:04:29.710
bedtime guy roughly since Conan O 'Brien first

01:04:29.710 --> 01:04:32.820
took over late night. Sometimes I stayed with

01:04:32.820 --> 01:04:36.300
him for the full 1230, but generally midnight

01:04:36.300 --> 01:04:39.039
was kind of it. And I still can't get that out

01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:43.519
of my system. So it's midnight. Doesn't matter

01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:46.300
what I do. But the biggest thing for me is when

01:04:46.300 --> 01:04:48.820
you wake up and it's like two, three in the morning

01:04:48.820 --> 01:04:52.980
and you're like, Oh, I wish an idea slips into

01:04:52.980 --> 01:04:55.719
your head and you're like, Oh, we're going to

01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:58.960
turn on this for an hour. And now that's, that's

01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:05.940
going to be there for a little bit. Yeah. So.

01:05:05.940 --> 01:05:09.599
Anyway. Thanks, brother. Enjoyed it, man. We

01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.480
didn't get to the extra stout or the Boston lager.

01:05:13.460 --> 01:05:15.179
Maybe we can just put those in the fridge for

01:05:15.179 --> 01:05:18.920
another day. Or we're going to sit here and drink

01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:21.380
them while we're off air. Well, yeah, because

01:05:21.380 --> 01:05:23.559
I do have some information to share. Okay. Well,

01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:25.880
then we're going to turn you all off. And then

01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:29.199
we're going to drink these. Thanks for joining

01:05:29.199 --> 01:06:03.760
us. Yeah. Thank you, everybody. Oasis