WEBVTT 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:33.979 Hey, John, how you doing? Good. How are you, 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:36.280 Chris? Good, good. A little different leading 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:38.899 the intro. Yeah, I was like, he just jumped right 00:00:38.899 --> 00:00:41.320 in there. Here we go, folks. I love it. That's 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:45.820 great. Yep. Tonight is a sentimental episode 00:00:45.820 --> 00:00:49.740 for me. This is sentimental. Yes, this is our 00:00:49.740 --> 00:00:52.979 33rd episode. Oh, hey. That's a special number 00:00:52.979 --> 00:00:56.159 for me. Yeah. Ever since I was a little kid. 00:00:56.520 --> 00:00:59.259 33. I've always noticed it. Okay. Now, I understand. 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:01.950 It's all in my head. I get it. Who cares? So, 00:01:02.070 --> 00:01:05.390 but I always see it everywhere. What's the, um, 00:01:05.590 --> 00:01:10.109 I was probably Harry Potter. I was hoping it 00:01:10.109 --> 00:01:14.489 was a Tolkien or, uh, not Tolkien Lewis that 00:01:14.489 --> 00:01:21.870 does the, that is the, um, is, is this real or 00:01:21.870 --> 00:01:24.629 is it happening in my head? I think I know what 00:01:24.629 --> 00:01:27.090 you're talking about. And then I think, I think 00:01:27.090 --> 00:01:30.569 it's Harry Potter. I think Rowling, um, Wrote 00:01:30.569 --> 00:01:35.230 it, and then I believe it's Dumbledore that answers. 00:01:36.090 --> 00:01:38.590 Of course it's happening in your head. What does 00:01:38.590 --> 00:01:40.489 that have to do with whether or not it's real? 00:01:41.010 --> 00:01:42.750 Yeah. Or something like that? And I was like, 00:01:42.810 --> 00:01:46.170 okay. Kaboom. Y 'all hear that? We have some 00:01:46.170 --> 00:01:50.629 sound effects tonight that is not brought to 00:01:50.629 --> 00:01:53.269 you by us. No, but they are all natural sound 00:01:53.269 --> 00:01:57.750 effects. All natural. Yes. So this is 33. 33, 00:01:57.930 --> 00:02:03.230 yes. So a couple examples for me, when I was 00:02:03.230 --> 00:02:05.870 in high school, went to Best Buy, bought some 00:02:05.870 --> 00:02:08.669 really nice Sony speakers. Serial number ended 00:02:08.669 --> 00:02:12.129 in 33. Really? Got my first bank account. It 00:02:12.129 --> 00:02:15.250 ended in 33. I've had credit cards and debit 00:02:15.250 --> 00:02:18.770 cards. They end in 33. It just kind of keeps 00:02:18.770 --> 00:02:22.110 happening. It's everywhere. So to me, tonight 00:02:22.110 --> 00:02:26.389 is a special show, number 33. The Chris Kincaid 00:02:26.389 --> 00:02:29.810 show. where Chris is just going to talk the entire 00:02:29.810 --> 00:02:31.169 time, and I'm going to sit here and look at him. 00:02:31.909 --> 00:02:34.310 I don't know about that. I kind of got my talking 00:02:34.310 --> 00:02:38.069 out today during chapel. Did you talk during 00:02:38.069 --> 00:02:42.229 chapel? Very briefly. Jacob and I did a presentation. 00:02:42.949 --> 00:02:45.009 And just kind of like, hey, here's the things 00:02:45.009 --> 00:02:47.770 that we've been working on for summer. And so 00:02:47.770 --> 00:02:50.789 we stood in front of the group and shared four 00:02:50.789 --> 00:02:55.000 or five different things. Like what? We talked 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:58.000 about how we're leveraging QR codes now. Oh, 00:02:58.099 --> 00:03:01.539 geez. This brand new technology. Let me tell 00:03:01.539 --> 00:03:05.300 you. You would appreciate this. You walk up to 00:03:05.300 --> 00:03:08.819 an AV booth and there's a QR code that you scan. 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:12.500 That QR code takes you to a document that tells 00:03:12.500 --> 00:03:14.680 you everything you could ever want to know about 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:18.000 every piece of gear. How it works, how you should 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:23.110 use it, and there's even a link to a video. of 00:03:23.110 --> 00:03:26.090 it actually being used. Okay, I'm jealous now. 00:03:26.270 --> 00:03:29.009 Yes. How long did that take you to make? Well, 00:03:29.009 --> 00:03:30.830 that wasn't me. That was all Jason Court. Well, 00:03:30.830 --> 00:03:33.050 sure. How long did that take him to make? He 00:03:33.050 --> 00:03:35.590 is still in progress on some of the documentation. 00:03:35.889 --> 00:03:38.629 I bet he is. But all of the QR codes have all 00:03:38.629 --> 00:03:41.409 been printed, took hours for all those to print, 00:03:41.550 --> 00:03:44.930 but they've all been put in place. And so by 00:03:44.930 --> 00:03:48.270 the time the rest of our staff show up and they'll 00:03:48.270 --> 00:03:50.909 be hitting the ground on the 12th, it'll be ready. 00:03:51.500 --> 00:03:55.539 Yeah, I'm going to steal that. Yes, it's a good 00:03:55.539 --> 00:03:58.900 use of it. And what you don't have is the 3D 00:03:58.900 --> 00:04:01.080 printer, though. That's true. I don't. We did 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:05.639 leverage the 3D printer for the plate. So we 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:08.039 discussed that. We discussed Ethan, who's our 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:10.939 new hire, who starts on the 12th. Okay. We showed 00:04:10.939 --> 00:04:15.259 a before and after of the Cryer Creek main office 00:04:15.259 --> 00:04:17.019 endpoint. You remember that one that was stuffed 00:04:17.019 --> 00:04:19.480 in the cabinets? I'm sorry. Hold on. Let me. 00:04:20.700 --> 00:04:23.639 Backtrack. Real old school Cryer Creek office. 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:28.240 The house. The house, yes. So when you would 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:30.800 walk into that little kitchenette area, cabinets 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:33.420 were on the left when you walked in. Yes. And 00:04:33.420 --> 00:04:35.500 all that gear was stuck in that cabinet. Yeah, 00:04:35.500 --> 00:04:39.139 in the cabinet. No ventilation. Not an actual 00:04:39.139 --> 00:04:42.980 rack. Not a rack in any way. So we went in and 00:04:42.980 --> 00:04:49.269 we yanked all that equipment out. rerouted fiber 00:04:49.269 --> 00:04:54.449 into a real rack, put in some additional switching, 00:04:54.750 --> 00:04:59.810 cable management. Any fans in? No, it didn't 00:04:59.810 --> 00:05:01.610 need it. I mean, there's no black magic gear, 00:05:01.670 --> 00:05:04.470 so you're fine. Yes. But we showed before and 00:05:04.470 --> 00:05:09.290 after of that. What else did we? It was like 00:05:09.290 --> 00:05:11.029 a little show and tell. Yeah, basically, yeah. 00:05:11.230 --> 00:05:13.709 That's great. There's one other that Jacob discussed, 00:05:13.769 --> 00:05:16.750 and I'm drawing a blank on it. But yeah, we did 00:05:16.750 --> 00:05:20.230 a small, maybe five, ten minute thing in front 00:05:20.230 --> 00:05:22.430 of people kind of talking about what we've been 00:05:22.430 --> 00:05:26.430 doing. And Ruthie made cookies? No, Ruthie was 00:05:26.430 --> 00:05:30.629 not there. I mean, I would have been disappointed. 00:05:32.129 --> 00:05:35.069 IT's talking, Ruthie's not here. Yeah, then there's 00:05:35.069 --> 00:05:37.689 no cookies. And no cupcakes. What's even the 00:05:37.689 --> 00:05:44.279 point? That's fantastic. Yeah. I'm tired. Right 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.879 now, because we just cooked a lot of burgers 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:50.379 and hot dogs for everybody at the church, and 00:05:50.379 --> 00:05:53.819 I stood longer than I realized I was standing. 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:56.199 Well, probably could have used some better shoes. 00:05:56.899 --> 00:06:00.500 Hey, man, don't hate on my chacos. I'm just saying 00:06:00.500 --> 00:06:02.959 for your standing comfort. Yeah, no, that's probably 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:05.500 true. I don't wear them as much as I used to, 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:07.839 so I really do notice when I put them on now. 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:15.839 I bet. Ouch. Goodness. Hey, what are we drinking? 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:20.439 We have a new one for the show. I don't think 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:24.180 it's new for either of us. No. I need a little 00:06:24.180 --> 00:06:26.600 more light to try to read that blurb. Oh, there 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:31.500 you go. Yeah. So we have the Founders KBS, an 00:06:31.500 --> 00:06:38.019 imperial stout aged in bourbon barrels. I actually 00:06:38.019 --> 00:06:40.319 can't remember the last time I had this, but 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:43.360 it's 12%, so I'm going to be going slow. It's 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.939 a good one. So the official blurb. You know what? 00:06:46.939 --> 00:06:49.759 I'm drinking this out of the bottle. That's fine. 00:06:50.779 --> 00:06:53.819 We've got the opener too. I tried to lean over 00:06:53.819 --> 00:06:55.399 and my back was like, no, you're not. You're 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:58.360 not going to grab that mug. It's hell getting 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:03.079 old, isn't it? All right, here we go. The beard. 00:07:03.139 --> 00:07:05.680 It taught us that patience truly is a virtue. 00:07:06.420 --> 00:07:09.639 This big, bold Imperial stout is brewed with 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:13.670 the premium chocolate and coffee. then aged in 00:07:13.670 --> 00:07:16.329 bourbon barrels that introduce powerful notes 00:07:16.329 --> 00:07:19.829 of vanilla, cocoa, or cocoa, however you want 00:07:19.829 --> 00:07:24.370 to pronounce that one, and charred oak. KBS is 00:07:24.370 --> 00:07:27.649 a luxuriant. Ooh, that's a big fancy word. Yeah, 00:07:27.649 --> 00:07:30.029 that's an SAT word right there. Yeah, it is. 00:07:30.129 --> 00:07:34.610 Full -body drinking experience that emanates, 00:07:34.649 --> 00:07:36.600 right? Yep, emanates. That's what that says. 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.000 Sophistication while honoring our craft beer 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.439 roots. See, there at the end, they lost me because 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:44.860 they were just trying to sound like they're not 00:07:44.860 --> 00:07:47.060 drinking beer. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, 00:07:47.060 --> 00:07:49.939 yeah, yeah. It was definitely cocoa. For the 00:07:49.939 --> 00:07:52.980 heck of it, it was bottled on January 21st of 00:07:52.980 --> 00:08:00.000 this year. Not too shabby. I was noticing, though. 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:01.899 I don't think I had ever noticed the chocolate 00:08:01.899 --> 00:08:08.120 and coffee on the label. That is kind of a standard, 00:08:08.220 --> 00:08:11.839 I think, for most stouts. Everybody's like, hints 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:15.860 of coffee and chocolate. So it's a stout. Yes. 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:21.620 You can already smell it. That's not bad. Okay. 00:08:21.819 --> 00:08:34.440 Cheers. Cheers. Yeah. No, that's what I needed 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:36.759 for sure. A little bit of. Bitter on the side 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:40.440 of the tongue. Nothing bad. No, it's not like 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:42.740 it's not overpowering. You're still tasting them. 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:47.840 And I think that's the like I OK. So I didn't 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:51.580 really taste the coffee until I just inhaled. 00:08:53.179 --> 00:08:56.419 And I think that's kind of that bitterness on 00:08:56.419 --> 00:08:59.340 the side of the tongue is is kind of I mean, 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:05.220 that's a coffee. Yeah. I think it's more bitter 00:09:05.220 --> 00:09:07.559 to me now than it normally is because I just 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:11.139 finished Dr. Pepper. Maybe just a little bit. 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:14.179 So I'm not tasting a whole lot of chocolate, 00:09:14.259 --> 00:09:15.980 if you know what I mean. No one's hating on you 00:09:15.980 --> 00:09:18.500 for Dr. Pepper. Oh, my gosh. I drank so many 00:09:18.500 --> 00:09:23.519 while we were cooking. My dad came up early and 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:25.460 was hanging out. I didn't know if we were going 00:09:25.460 --> 00:09:28.879 to need because Jeff was going to run late. I 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:30.039 didn't know if I was going to need to be running 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.679 back and forth or if I could cook. But Cody was 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:36.379 going to cook. Sorry, these are people that we 00:09:36.379 --> 00:09:38.159 know, but everybody else doesn't. Sorry about 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:42.799 that. But anyway, a bunch of guys. And my dad 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:48.580 showed up because I asked him to. He's the one 00:09:48.580 --> 00:09:50.200 who taught me how to cook burgers. So I was like, 00:09:50.299 --> 00:09:53.440 I know he's going to do it the same way I'm going 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:58.789 to do it. It was delicious, by the way. I wish 00:09:58.789 --> 00:10:00.750 that there had been leftovers. I would have brought 00:10:00.750 --> 00:10:05.850 you some. But we'll talk about it later. But 00:10:05.850 --> 00:10:07.889 the whole time we were out there, I was like, 00:10:07.970 --> 00:10:12.590 I just want a beer. But I drank a whole bunch 00:10:12.590 --> 00:10:14.309 of these Dr. Peppers. And I was like, Dad, you 00:10:14.309 --> 00:10:15.590 want a Dr. Pepper? He's like, no, I'll have one 00:10:15.590 --> 00:10:22.049 when I eat my burger. And I was like, so. Like 00:10:22.049 --> 00:10:24.690 not one now and just one when you're eating your 00:10:24.690 --> 00:10:26.529 burger. What is that? Like you don't, you're 00:10:26.529 --> 00:10:29.009 saying that you're only going to, you can have 00:10:29.009 --> 00:10:31.230 one now. Like I've got enough. You can have one 00:10:31.230 --> 00:10:33.149 now. And when you eat your burger and he's like, 00:10:33.210 --> 00:10:36.789 he patted his tummy, which looks a lot like mine. 00:10:37.409 --> 00:10:39.850 Um, maybe a little bit bigger. And he was like, 00:10:39.970 --> 00:10:42.590 yeah, I've been doing that for a long time. So 00:10:42.590 --> 00:10:47.389 I need to not cutting back. One's not going to 00:10:47.389 --> 00:10:53.230 hurt. Yeah. But now we're drinking beer. Yeah, 00:10:53.230 --> 00:10:57.549 we are. Seems like the storm has eased up a little 00:10:57.549 --> 00:10:59.529 bit too. Yeah, I was like, did it just get quieter 00:10:59.529 --> 00:11:01.950 in here? Oh, it's because there's not a low rumble 00:11:01.950 --> 00:11:04.450 anymore. Correct. I mean, it has been going, 00:11:04.509 --> 00:11:09.370 I don't know, since 4 o 'clock today. Maybe right 00:11:09.370 --> 00:11:14.169 at 3 .30 or so. I mean, it's been a while. Yeah, 00:11:14.210 --> 00:11:18.570 we've still got a queue. We have a few places 00:11:18.570 --> 00:11:20.840 in camp that are still without power. Really? 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:24.740 Yeah, that's been kind of nice on these new battery 00:11:24.740 --> 00:11:26.440 backups that we've been rolling out. They have 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.919 the cloud management card. So you can see. Yeah, 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:31.940 we get feedback in real time on what's going 00:11:31.940 --> 00:11:35.860 on. So we're not sitting there going, hey, ops 00:11:35.860 --> 00:11:39.340 guys, is there a power outage at this camp? We 00:11:39.340 --> 00:11:41.299 already know, and so it's kind of nice. I know. 00:11:41.379 --> 00:11:43.879 I already know. Yeah, I should do something about 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:47.230 that because that would be great to know. most 00:11:47.230 --> 00:11:49.230 of the time I'm just like, Oh, I can't hit anything 00:11:49.230 --> 00:11:56.210 anymore. So, yep. You know, I will say I don't 00:11:56.210 --> 00:12:00.710 get a lot of the bourbon in the KVS. Um, I think 00:12:00.710 --> 00:12:04.049 it's, um, kind of back of the throat. You know 00:12:04.049 --> 00:12:06.730 what I mean? Um, it's the, it's the, it's the 00:12:06.730 --> 00:12:10.730 syrupy ness to it to me because bourbon to me, 00:12:10.870 --> 00:12:16.240 um, I always laughed at, um, paul a friend of 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:18.519 ours whenever he would talk about whiskey or 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.279 bourbon being sweet because it's never tasted 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:25.240 sweet to me you know you get a whole lot of fire 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:29.899 i guess is what i taste mostly but i mean i get 00:12:29.899 --> 00:12:34.000 it when when you have bourbon flavored things 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:38.720 or bourbon you know there's like a mixture and 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.120 bourbon as part of the notes of it that it's 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:48.909 kind of a sweet almost syrupy -ness to it, which, 00:12:48.970 --> 00:12:53.789 again, can be great or it can be not your favorite 00:12:53.789 --> 00:13:02.809 thing. But this is delicious and not very heavy 00:13:02.809 --> 00:13:05.710 for a porter. Correct. Now, I can tell you, if 00:13:05.710 --> 00:13:09.830 we get into this one, the bourbon is strong. 00:13:10.539 --> 00:13:12.440 The bourbon is strong with this one. Yes, it 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:14.940 is. It is strong. Okay, I just got bourbon on 00:13:14.940 --> 00:13:16.740 the front of my tongue with that one, with that 00:13:16.740 --> 00:13:19.600 drink that I just had. Okay. So let's turn that 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:25.139 off. Sound effects. Sorry, that was unintentional. 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:27.600 But I would say everybody out there, if you haven't 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:32.440 had a KBS, it is definitely a tasty beer. Founders 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:36.580 does really, really great beers with the exception. 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.720 of that blonde that we had oh that was horrible 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:44.080 that was nasty and i still love the way you described 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:51.779 it dawn flavored dish soap i mean that's exactly 00:13:51.779 --> 00:13:55.379 what like you know that thing when you clean 00:13:55.379 --> 00:13:58.460 out like a glass or something like that and you 00:13:58.460 --> 00:14:02.440 don't get all of the soap out yeah actually if 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:04.480 i remember correctly you said lemon flavored 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:07.679 dawn dish soap Yeah, lemon flavored dog dish 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:10.480 soap. There you go. Yeah. I just, I can't, I'm 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:17.179 not, yeah, not a big fan of things tasting like 00:14:17.179 --> 00:14:22.700 soap. No. No, the only time I ever should be 00:14:22.700 --> 00:14:27.500 tasting soap is if I'm getting my mouth rinsed 00:14:27.500 --> 00:14:30.360 out for inappropriate language. Yeah, it's been 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:32.720 a long time since I did that to my sons because 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:35.519 they said words that I'd. There's not a lot of 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:38.440 words that are going to make me really get on 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:45.980 to you. They go to a school now that they hear 00:14:45.980 --> 00:14:50.039 racial slurs that they're not allowed to say. 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:54.399 And they just think because other kids are doing 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:55.940 it that they should be able to. And I was like, 00:14:56.059 --> 00:15:00.700 uh -uh. Nope. Not. There's. Nope. Nope. You don't. 00:15:00.700 --> 00:15:02.559 There's a lot of things that you get to do. This 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:07.299 is not one of them. Yeah. So we did the soap 00:15:07.299 --> 00:15:12.600 in the mouth and I did it with them because I 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:16.500 have one son in particular who's sure that I'm 00:15:16.500 --> 00:15:20.700 abusing him anytime there's discipline involved, 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:23.200 any kind of physical discipline involved. And 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:29.519 I'm like, no. Oh, goodness. Someday you will 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:32.940 be the parent and you will understand. Yeah. 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:36.059 Well, as you share a parenting story, I have 00:15:36.059 --> 00:15:39.539 a new parenting story to share and learn that 00:15:39.539 --> 00:15:42.759 I never subjected my dad to this. So it's kind 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:48.259 of a new all around. Really? I was working at 00:15:48.259 --> 00:15:50.440 the house, installing some outdoor speakers and 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:55.019 started to hear something. I'm like, what am 00:15:55.019 --> 00:15:58.379 I hearing? And I took my earbud out and realized 00:15:58.379 --> 00:16:02.000 that it was a person. And I turn around. And 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:03.940 there's this big old country fed redhead dude 00:16:03.940 --> 00:16:08.700 who's clearly upset. Is that your son's car? 00:16:09.980 --> 00:16:16.299 Yeah. He needs to slow down. Okay. Tell me what 00:16:16.299 --> 00:16:21.659 it did. He had to at least be 170. Where? Over 00:16:21.659 --> 00:16:26.659 here on our street. Which street? Which one? 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.179 Iber? Not Iber. That's over by my mom and dad. 00:16:31.419 --> 00:16:34.200 Anyways, it's a Cajun sounding street. Cause 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.759 that's my whole neighborhood. Nice. And it's 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:39.179 a short street. Yeah. And I'm like, sir, I don't 00:16:39.179 --> 00:16:41.480 think he could have actually got up to 70, but 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:43.220 to your point, he may have been going too fast. 00:16:43.659 --> 00:16:45.419 And he's like, there's kids. He needs to slow 00:16:45.419 --> 00:16:49.580 down. I'm like, Oh, okay. Yeah, sure. You know? 00:16:49.580 --> 00:16:54.039 And he just like, he's here for a fight. He was 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:56.600 definitely upset. Yeah. You know, I'm feeling 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.480 like I'm getting my butt handed to me by this 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:03.899 dude. Like, I will talk to my son. So I go in 00:17:03.899 --> 00:17:06.119 and I talk to Garrett. And of course, I wasn't 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:09.059 speeding. We've already had to tell you you need 00:17:09.059 --> 00:17:11.880 to slow down. I know you drive too fast. The 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.660 problem here is I just had a dad chewing on me 00:17:15.660 --> 00:17:18.539 for something that you did. Yeah. That's where 00:17:18.539 --> 00:17:20.940 the problem lies. Yeah. And also the speeding. 00:17:22.619 --> 00:17:25.259 Listen, there's a different level now. Yes. Because 00:17:25.259 --> 00:17:26.980 you have brought me into this. Yes, when I have 00:17:26.980 --> 00:17:29.640 a dad griping at me over something you did, you 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.319 and I got a problem. And basically told him, 00:17:32.380 --> 00:17:35.700 if it happens again, you won't be driving. Yeah. 00:17:36.859 --> 00:17:41.759 So he was just like, oh. Yeah, power. Might lose 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.859 power here, folks. Don't do it. So a little bit 00:17:44.859 --> 00:17:47.579 later, he comes up and he goes like, I really 00:17:47.579 --> 00:17:49.319 don't think I was speeding, but I think I know 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:53.359 what happened. I'm like, okay. And he's like, 00:17:53.460 --> 00:17:55.980 well, when I was driving by, his wife gave me 00:17:55.980 --> 00:17:59.019 a look, and I gave her a look back. And I'm like, 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:01.700 well, that probably didn't help. Yeah, don't 00:18:01.700 --> 00:18:03.720 do that. It's like, so let's not do that either 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:08.779 and still slow down. And Michelle gets home, 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.119 and I'm telling her, and she's like, well, don't 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:13.380 have him drive on that street anymore. I'm like, 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.880 that's one way to approach it, but at the same 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.720 time, he needs to slow down. So that was interesting. 00:18:20.899 --> 00:18:23.940 Oh, for sure. So yeah, but my dad got yelled 00:18:23.940 --> 00:18:27.299 at a lot for anything that we did. So that's 00:18:27.299 --> 00:18:29.480 what it, that's what it's like having kids when 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:32.319 you're in the ministry. Okay. Just all of a sudden 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:39.160 it's like free game. Oh my gosh. Everybody. So 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:44.000 to your point, any kind of community parenting 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:49.279 is tough. Sure. Because I think good parents 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:53.539 know there are hills that you die on and that 00:18:53.539 --> 00:18:56.480 there, and there are hills that you don't. And 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.319 a lot of times we pick different hills to die 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:04.099 on. Yeah. Now I'm not saying that like speeding 00:19:04.099 --> 00:19:07.480 in a neighborhood is not a good fight for a parent 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:12.200 or whatever. Um, but there's just, there's a 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:18.240 lot of, sensitivities that you're like, I don't 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:20.960 know that I would have called that speeding. 00:19:22.299 --> 00:19:26.079 Like you, do you know that the speed limit is 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.460 35 on that road? Do you know what 35 looks like? 00:19:30.660 --> 00:19:36.799 Yep. You're saying he's going too fast. What? 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:43.539 Yep. But you know, then people have bad days. 00:19:43.980 --> 00:19:46.279 Oh, absolutely. What are you going to do? Yeah, 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:48.099 I have no doubt that he was probably going a 00:19:48.099 --> 00:19:50.740 little faster than he should have. And they had 00:19:50.740 --> 00:19:55.220 their kids playing out in the yard. And giving 00:19:55.220 --> 00:19:57.920 the lady back the look just makes things even 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:00.220 worse. And, of course, she goes to her husband 00:20:00.220 --> 00:20:03.539 and says, you need to fix this. And so he goes 00:20:03.539 --> 00:20:07.000 into fixing mode and is driving around looking 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:09.119 for the vehicle and finds the vehicle and then 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:14.960 is like, hey, you need to talk to your son. Cool. 00:20:15.059 --> 00:20:16.660 Like, okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:19.839 But the positive note to my story is I got my 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:22.319 speakers installed, and they sound great. That 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:24.839 is a positive note. Yes. So now we can sit out 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:28.220 on the front porch and listen to music. Nice. 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:34.000 Yes. I like that a lot. Yeah. With your, oh, 00:20:35.099 --> 00:20:37.900 shoot. What amp did you use? Fosse. It's Fosse 00:20:37.900 --> 00:20:41.319 Audio. I don't remember the exact model. And 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:44.440 then she decided she wanted. to be able to send 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:46.619 things independently to front porch, back porch. 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.000 Okay. Although back porch isn't installed yet. 00:20:49.299 --> 00:20:53.000 Okay. Because I thought, okay, this has two outs. 00:20:53.380 --> 00:20:55.700 That's great. We can run it to front and back. 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:58.140 No, no, no, no, no, no. When she's on the front 00:20:58.140 --> 00:20:59.539 porch, she wants it on the front porch. When 00:20:59.539 --> 00:21:01.019 she's on the back porch, she wants it on the 00:21:01.019 --> 00:21:03.640 back porch. And it's like, well, that's going 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:08.599 to require either a more expensive unit, and 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:10.539 I don't mind spending the money. Yeah, don't 00:21:10.539 --> 00:21:13.039 get me wrong. I'll get a multi -zone receiver 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:17.660 real fast. I will buy stuff. Yes. Did you just 00:21:17.660 --> 00:21:19.500 give me permission to buy things? Yes. I will 00:21:19.500 --> 00:21:22.859 buy things. So I basically bought the same thing, 00:21:22.940 --> 00:21:26.319 but it's from a company called IEMA. Okay. How 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:30.259 do you spell IEMA? A -I -Y -I -M -A. Yeah, I 00:21:30.259 --> 00:21:33.400 wasn't going to get there. A -I -Y -I -M -A. 00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:38.970 IEMA. Oh, no, I've seen this. Okay. So it's basically 00:21:38.970 --> 00:21:42.410 the equivalent of the Fosse. I mean, spec for 00:21:42.410 --> 00:21:48.230 spec. AO7. It's identical. Or AO1. Let's see. 00:21:48.349 --> 00:21:52.069 Pull that up on the Amazons. On the Amazons. 00:21:53.309 --> 00:21:56.809 There's the Fosse audio. Is yours Bluetooth? 00:21:57.390 --> 00:22:04.390 Yep, Bluetooth. Come on. So do you have the BT 00:22:04.390 --> 00:22:09.869 -20A? I don't think so. It's 600 watts. No, no, 00:22:09.890 --> 00:22:12.750 that's way more than what I... Wow, this does 00:22:12.750 --> 00:22:17.670 not want to load. Come on. Phone, what are you 00:22:17.670 --> 00:22:21.190 doing? Are you on our Wi -Fi? No, I'm on the 00:22:21.190 --> 00:22:24.809 cellular. Oh. Because sometimes the Wi -Fi... 00:22:26.819 --> 00:22:32.759 So the IEMA or however it's pronounced is the 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:41.240 A03 2 .1 channel. The Fosse is the BT30D. 30D. 00:22:41.619 --> 00:22:48.640 Yes. And I had to crank back the volume coming 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:51.200 off of that thing because it was far louder than 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:56.769 I expected. So it's 50 watts by 2. Man, the IEMs 00:22:56.769 --> 00:23:07.289 have a lot of different offerings here. So probably 00:23:07.289 --> 00:23:16.349 not this weekend, but probably the weekend after 00:23:16.349 --> 00:23:18.789 I'll get to the back porch. That one's going 00:23:18.789 --> 00:23:20.869 to be a little bit more involved in going up 00:23:20.869 --> 00:23:23.349 into the attic. Yeah, I love when my friends 00:23:23.349 --> 00:23:28.329 install stuff. I, um, right now I'm installing 00:23:28.329 --> 00:23:37.549 fans, ceiling fans. Okay. My old nemesis. It's 00:23:37.549 --> 00:23:39.309 just, I mean, you know, it doesn't matter how 00:23:39.309 --> 00:23:42.789 much planning you do. There's always some reason 00:23:42.789 --> 00:23:45.750 that that install is not going to go well. It 00:23:45.750 --> 00:23:47.809 can happen. Absolutely. I'm just like, guys, 00:23:47.930 --> 00:23:53.230 can we just know? Uh, okay. Well, yeah, we didn't 00:23:53.230 --> 00:23:57.759 think that through. Did you say AO3 or DO3? AO3 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:02.160 for the IEMO. Oh, I see it now. Bluetooth 5 .0. 00:24:02.339 --> 00:24:06.700 Yep. They both work essentially the same. Mm 00:24:06.700 --> 00:24:10.460 -hmm. Essentially the same spec for spec for 00:24:10.460 --> 00:24:17.519 the most part. Really? So the Fosse, obviously, 00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:20.240 the Bluetooth name is Fosse. Mm -hmm. Shocker. 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:23.380 Can't believe it. So join Michelle to that one. 00:24:23.619 --> 00:24:25.539 Rename the Bluetooth name in her phone to Front 00:24:25.539 --> 00:24:28.980 Porch. Nice. The IEMA actually shows up as Hi 00:24:28.980 --> 00:24:33.299 -Fi Audio. That's better. Didn't expect that, 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:35.900 but okay. And so once we've got that one done, 00:24:35.980 --> 00:24:39.160 we'll rename that as Back Porch for her so that 00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:43.900 she has the ability to pick which way she's going 00:24:43.900 --> 00:24:46.759 there. You should definitely say Hi -Fi. That 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:49.220 makes you sound like you came from the 80s. Hi 00:24:49.220 --> 00:24:53.799 -Fi. My introduction to Hi -Fi actually was VCR. 00:24:54.339 --> 00:24:56.920 No, yeah. Because if you didn't have a Hi -Fi 00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:59.619 VCR, you couldn't get the rear channels. And 00:24:59.619 --> 00:25:06.019 I remember the Hi -Fi being on the door for the 00:25:06.019 --> 00:25:12.059 VHS. Yep. I had no idea what it meant. I didn't 00:25:12.059 --> 00:25:13.700 either until I didn't understand why I wasn't 00:25:13.700 --> 00:25:16.519 getting my rear channels. And I was like, oh, 00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:21.369 you mean I got to go buy another VHS? Great. 00:25:21.369 --> 00:25:26.769 Okay, here we go. Yeah, that's terrible. Man, 00:25:27.769 --> 00:25:33.470 amplifiers. Yeah, I was actually talking to... 00:25:33.470 --> 00:25:36.670 We have a bunch of amplifiers at the church that 00:25:36.670 --> 00:25:39.450 we're not using anymore because our main system 00:25:39.450 --> 00:25:43.789 speakers are now powered instead of passive. 00:25:44.049 --> 00:25:46.369 But that means that we've got just this rack 00:25:46.369 --> 00:25:54.779 full of... amps and they're, you know, big daddy 00:25:54.779 --> 00:25:59.140 QSCs. Um, I mean, not the actual big daddies, 00:25:59.140 --> 00:26:06.759 like they're not class a, um, but yeah, Chad 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:11.460 Larsh really, um, explained to me well, the difference 00:26:11.460 --> 00:26:14.980 between the different classes of power and why 00:26:14.980 --> 00:26:17.900 it matters whenever you're talking about, um, 00:26:19.260 --> 00:26:22.359 fidelity since we're talking about hi -fi and 00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:28.599 how you don't realize how like you're the curve 00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:32.839 that you're listening to is not an actual curve 00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:38.720 the stair step yep and you don't really hear 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.000 the difference until you put them next to each 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.559 other because I think we get we get a lot of 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:49.740 digital sound now But those old tube amps, man, 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:55.279 they sound different. Yep. I'm one of those guys. 00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:59.400 Sorry. Well, if you saw, those are Class D. Yeah, 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:05.000 Class D. So. Super light. Low level, but works 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:08.359 well for the application. But super, I mean, 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:10.980 Class D now is kind of, it's not bulletproof 00:27:10.980 --> 00:27:13.420 by any stretch of the imagination, but it's not 00:27:13.420 --> 00:27:17.579 like there's. Very little maintenance. I mean, 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:20.480 now most of the time, actually, it's kind of 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:22.740 like if anything were to happen, it's just kind 00:27:22.740 --> 00:27:25.420 of throw it away instead of trying to fix it. 00:27:25.500 --> 00:27:27.900 Yeah. Whereas Class A was like, all right, I 00:27:27.900 --> 00:27:31.019 got to go find some new tubes, figure out what's 00:27:31.019 --> 00:27:35.420 going on with this thing. Yeah. But yeah, these 00:27:35.420 --> 00:27:38.970 look great. Yeah, I think. I caught the Fosse 00:27:38.970 --> 00:27:43.809 on sale for $65 at the time, and the IEMA I got 00:27:43.809 --> 00:27:47.910 around $80 -ish when I bought it. So these things 00:27:47.910 --> 00:27:51.230 aren't crazy expensive. It's saying $65 on their 00:27:51.230 --> 00:27:54.690 site. Okay. Well, I caught them at the wrong 00:27:54.690 --> 00:27:57.009 time on the IEMA. Yeah, I think probably you 00:27:57.009 --> 00:27:59.869 can get both of them for $65 -ish if you're looking 00:27:59.869 --> 00:28:05.609 for a small Bluetooth amplifier. Yeah. And it 00:28:05.609 --> 00:28:14.509 will do, yeah. It'll do the RCA out left and 00:28:14.509 --> 00:28:16.509 right, but it'll also do... It can also drive 00:28:16.509 --> 00:28:20.569 a sub. Yeah, and it's got a sub out, like separate 00:28:20.569 --> 00:28:24.349 sub out. And it has frequency control on the 00:28:24.349 --> 00:28:26.650 sub, which is kind of nice. Did it come with 00:28:26.650 --> 00:28:29.289 an antenna for the... It does. Okay. It does 00:28:29.289 --> 00:28:31.250 come with an antenna. It shows the antenna, but 00:28:31.250 --> 00:28:35.079 it doesn't really, like I didn't, yeah. A few 00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:36.799 of the pictures don't have the antenna on, so 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:38.799 you always have to be careful with stuff like 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.559 that. Because you really want something this 00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:43.440 small, you really want to hide it. And especially 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:48.720 if you're using it for the porches. And they 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.099 have great range on Bluetooth. I have them both 00:28:52.099 --> 00:28:55.480 at the network rack, and they reach the front 00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.839 and back porch. That's fantastic. Yes, I definitely 00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:02.980 recommend these. You were strategic, though, 00:29:03.019 --> 00:29:07.539 with your network rack, putting it in the middle 00:29:07.539 --> 00:29:10.200 of the house. It's close as I can get it. Yeah. 00:29:10.339 --> 00:29:13.140 As close as I can get it. Kind of front middle, 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.920 if I'm remembering. Yes, yes. But I would definitely 00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:20.180 recommend these receivers to anybody that is 00:29:20.180 --> 00:29:23.000 looking for something small like that. I have 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:26.059 them, the speakers that I'm using are Polk Audio 00:29:26.059 --> 00:29:30.799 Atrium 4. And they're just the round speakers 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.400 that you can... No, they're kind of the standard 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.160 rectangular. Oh, okay. But they have the mount 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.559 that grabs from either side and you twist on 00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:42.000 to lock in it. You can... And rock in the different 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:46.559 positions. Yeah. Point it down. Correct. So I've 00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.259 got two on the front, two to go on the back. 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:51.119 More than enough volume that I could ever want. 00:29:51.779 --> 00:29:55.190 I had to, like I said, I had to back off. on 00:29:55.190 --> 00:29:58.269 the output once i kind of get out there and evidently 00:29:58.269 --> 00:30:00.809 you got some picky neighbors that may be like 00:30:00.809 --> 00:30:04.549 hey you can't be listening to your music yeah 00:30:04.549 --> 00:30:07.809 in these parts well that's why you got to know 00:30:07.809 --> 00:30:13.230 what the legal level is for decibels okay so 00:30:13.230 --> 00:30:15.710 as long as you stay what's your legal level for 00:30:15.710 --> 00:30:18.369 decibels well i've made i would have to look 00:30:18.369 --> 00:30:21.759 and see what it actually is where i'm at I feel 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.099 like it's probably if I was standing at their 00:30:25.099 --> 00:30:29.819 property line, as long as I'm under 75 DB, I'm 00:30:29.819 --> 00:30:33.640 probably going to be okay. I mean, 75 DB is really 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:38.220 low. Yes. Um, I mean like a quiet room is usually 00:30:38.220 --> 00:30:40.880 around like with the AC running or whatever is 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:46.759 usually around 60. Um, but I don't know why when 00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:49.599 you said poke, I, I, automatically thought of 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:51.779 a round speaker and they don't really sell any 00:30:51.779 --> 00:30:55.039 round speakers they're rounded yeah but not not 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:56.859 what i was picturing at all so i don't know what 00:30:56.859 --> 00:31:02.180 i had in my head um but they've got a they've 00:31:02.180 --> 00:31:04.839 got a whole bunch they've even got car and marines 00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.319 so you can put them like outside outside um but 00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:13.240 atrium atrium force fours those look great yeah 00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:15.539 yep and they're paintable if you need to paint 00:31:15.539 --> 00:31:20.660 them i'm not painting mine Not doing it. Do you 00:31:20.660 --> 00:31:24.519 do black or white? They're black. Okay. So they 00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:26.579 look like speakers. They do look like speakers. 00:31:27.019 --> 00:31:29.640 Sometimes it's like, is that a speaker or is 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:34.119 that? Look up real quick. The Polk Audio Atrium 00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:40.160 Sub 10. There is your round speaker. Yeah, no, 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:48.130 I saw this. Sub 10 or Sub 100? Sub 10. Wow, that 00:31:48.130 --> 00:31:53.430 is strange. It's like a pendant on some kind 00:31:53.430 --> 00:31:56.789 of mount. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like 00:31:56.789 --> 00:32:02.849 the way that that looks. Downward firing. Oh, 00:32:02.910 --> 00:32:05.789 okay. I see the 10 now. I was looking at the 00:32:05.789 --> 00:32:08.329 100. Yeah, the 100 looks like what you would 00:32:08.329 --> 00:32:12.710 see definitely in an outdoor installation. What's 00:32:12.710 --> 00:32:15.309 the Gaylord? Although I think they use bows. 00:32:16.230 --> 00:32:18.250 But it looks like something that the Gaylord 00:32:18.250 --> 00:32:22.029 would have in their outdoor indoor spot with 00:32:22.029 --> 00:32:25.509 all the water treatment and all that. Yeah. No, 00:32:25.549 --> 00:32:30.029 that makes sense. It's just artistic. I don't. 00:32:30.430 --> 00:32:34.789 Yeah. Don't get me wrong. Not don't have anything 00:32:34.789 --> 00:32:51.440 against it, but. Man, home audio. That's just 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.700 a whole different rabbit hole. Yep. You can do 00:32:54.700 --> 00:33:01.799 outdoor audio. You can do like your Bluetooth 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:04.759 speakers around the house and whether or not 00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:08.000 you do like something networked for that. And 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:21.900 then you do like your. Oh, my gosh. Why am I 00:33:21.900 --> 00:33:30.660 blanking on the home, not studio? Theater? Theater. 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:35.160 There you go. Goodness. I swear. It's been a 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.420 long day, man. It's fatigue is what it is. Yeah. 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:44.579 I haven't drank that much yet. So I'm not seeing 00:33:44.579 --> 00:33:49.069 the actual law for our area. But this is saying, 00:33:49.109 --> 00:33:52.470 generally speaking, any noise exceeding 70 dB 00:33:52.470 --> 00:33:56.029 is considered disturbing. And it says residential 00:33:56.029 --> 00:34:01.650 limits usually start at 60 or 55. Golly, that 00:34:01.650 --> 00:34:07.250 is so low. And that typically applies from 10 00:34:07.250 --> 00:34:13.730 p .m. to 7 a .m. So I'm going to be close enough 00:34:13.730 --> 00:34:16.909 to that that I'm not worried about my neighbors. 00:34:17.489 --> 00:34:20.289 No, and you're also not going to be bumping at 00:34:20.289 --> 00:34:28.469 11 o 'clock at night. No. No. No, 11 o 'clock 00:34:28.469 --> 00:34:31.730 at night, I'm laying in bed, not asleep, but 00:34:31.730 --> 00:34:35.690 I'm at least laying in bed. Yeah, I couldn't 00:34:35.690 --> 00:34:43.630 sleep last night. I had my job evaluation yesterday, 00:34:43.769 --> 00:34:47.769 and so, you know. rehashing that in my mind over 00:34:47.769 --> 00:34:50.949 and over and over again for hours on end. That's 00:34:50.949 --> 00:34:54.349 what I do. Yeah. And I think about it. Yeah. 00:34:54.369 --> 00:34:58.250 And I think about everything else. Depending 00:34:58.250 --> 00:35:00.130 on what feedback you get, yeah, that could definitely 00:35:00.130 --> 00:35:03.110 keep you going for a few hours. Quite a while. 00:35:05.530 --> 00:35:11.889 Anyway. Wow, these poke speakers are... You just 00:35:11.889 --> 00:35:15.349 finished? Finished. Man. I got a... You talk. 00:35:15.550 --> 00:35:17.849 I'm going to drink. I haven't had all the Dr. 00:35:17.989 --> 00:35:21.889 Pepper that you had. That's true. I have had 00:35:21.889 --> 00:35:25.469 a lot. You're floating on carbonated beverage. 00:35:26.550 --> 00:35:28.429 You don't have to chug it to try to catch up 00:35:28.429 --> 00:35:32.949 now. I absolutely do. So if you haven't caught 00:35:32.949 --> 00:35:36.130 on yet, we really don't have a subject to discuss 00:35:36.130 --> 00:35:38.610 tonight. No, we're just hanging out. This is 00:35:38.610 --> 00:35:41.349 just kind of a free flow conversation. Whatever 00:35:41.349 --> 00:35:45.929 happens, happens. We'll see what the feedback 00:35:45.929 --> 00:35:49.170 is. Yeah. From the whole seven people who seem 00:35:49.170 --> 00:35:53.730 to download. Can't be much worse than that, which 00:35:53.730 --> 00:35:56.090 is fine. But yeah, I mean, I'll get some feedback 00:35:56.090 --> 00:36:00.829 from Mr. Court, probably from Michael Moore. 00:36:03.090 --> 00:36:06.849 And of all people, I actually found out that 00:36:06.849 --> 00:36:11.269 Chris Vasquez has at least downloaded it at least 00:36:11.269 --> 00:36:14.000 one time. And he was telling me the last time 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.519 I saw him that when he's finishing up another 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:20.619 podcast, for some reason, his player goes back 00:36:20.619 --> 00:36:23.760 to the last podcast and he was listening of our 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.599 show. And it's like, did you not finish it? He's 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:29.420 like, I don't know. Maybe I'm like, well, if 00:36:29.420 --> 00:36:30.940 it does it again, you should just kind of scrub 00:36:30.940 --> 00:36:32.639 it all the way over and it should clear out. 00:36:32.739 --> 00:36:34.900 Right. And not come back. Cause he said, I'll 00:36:34.900 --> 00:36:37.260 be listening to a podcast and it'll finish. And 00:36:37.260 --> 00:36:38.800 the next thing I know, I hear your voice in my 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.369 ears. Not too shabby. It's like, well, that could 00:36:42.369 --> 00:36:52.469 be disturbing. So. Oh, my gosh. There it is. 00:36:54.869 --> 00:37:04.070 I mean, you know, there are worse voices. Sure. 00:37:05.809 --> 00:37:07.929 Could be the most annoying sound in the universe. 00:37:07.969 --> 00:37:13.449 Oh, don't do it. You know what the most? Never 00:37:13.449 --> 00:37:20.789 mind. Just so bad. Yet another totally impromptu 00:37:20.789 --> 00:37:24.550 thing in a movie. Not in the script. Totally 00:37:24.550 --> 00:37:28.969 Jim Carrey being Jim Carrey. I mean, and they 00:37:28.969 --> 00:37:40.429 rolled with it. Guys, guys, guys. Terrible. What 00:37:40.429 --> 00:37:44.969 are you going to do? Yeah. Um, what else you 00:37:44.969 --> 00:37:48.869 got going on? Just trying to be ready for summer. 00:37:49.210 --> 00:37:51.670 A lot going on there. Oh my gosh. A lot of spinning 00:37:51.670 --> 00:37:54.429 plates, a lot of, a lot of moving parts. And, 00:37:54.510 --> 00:37:58.389 and like in the worst possible way at this point 00:37:58.389 --> 00:38:01.949 in the. Sure. But I mean, overall we're in a 00:38:01.949 --> 00:38:04.769 good spot. You know, Southeast is ready. Okay. 00:38:05.449 --> 00:38:08.949 Central Texas is ready. We just are wrapping 00:38:08.949 --> 00:38:12.119 up. East Texas. I think we'll have the last few 00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:14.460 little things done by the end of the day tomorrow. 00:38:14.820 --> 00:38:19.380 So we've got lots of time before staff show up, 00:38:19.420 --> 00:38:21.820 but there's still other little things that we're 00:38:21.820 --> 00:38:27.340 working on. You know, like we, Jason is trying 00:38:27.340 --> 00:38:30.340 to finish up some of his documentation. We've 00:38:30.340 --> 00:38:32.119 got documentation that we need to get knocked 00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:37.840 out for medical and for retail. None of that's 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:41.639 really heavy. Working on some residual pieces 00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:45.380 from our Fortinet rollout. I don't know if you 00:38:45.380 --> 00:38:48.000 and I have discussed that much. I don't think 00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:52.940 so. We had full intentions of going all Meraki. 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:56.400 I think I remember you saying that. And then 00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:00.199 Cisco pulled a Cisco and said, oh, hey, we're 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.760 not going to make that Meraki gear anymore. You 00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:05.119 need to buy our gear that's way more expensive. 00:39:05.619 --> 00:39:07.679 Yeah, that sounds right. So that really kind 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:11.969 of. sent us reeling and started looking around 00:39:11.969 --> 00:39:16.969 and asking questions and kind of, you know, kind 00:39:16.969 --> 00:39:22.949 of from talking with other church ministries 00:39:22.949 --> 00:39:25.829 at some of the events that we've been at, as 00:39:25.829 --> 00:39:29.070 well as talking to some of our companies that 00:39:29.070 --> 00:39:31.190 we work with, everybody was kind of like, Hey, 00:39:31.210 --> 00:39:34.329 you should really look at Fortinet. And they 00:39:34.329 --> 00:39:37.349 offer a compelling product for the price. Can 00:39:37.349 --> 00:39:40.289 you say that a little slower? Hey -o. Hey, there 00:39:40.289 --> 00:39:44.889 went the power. Thank you, battery backup. Yes, 00:39:44.889 --> 00:39:47.889 thank you, battery backup. Oh, and there it is. 00:39:48.630 --> 00:39:52.570 So this show may be ending fairly quick. Yeah. 00:39:53.489 --> 00:39:58.250 So, but Fortinet offers a compelling product 00:39:58.250 --> 00:40:00.489 for the price. If you're going to go off, stay 00:40:00.489 --> 00:40:03.059 off. Don't keep blinking. Yeah, this is bad. 00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:08.739 So we've got it in place at the ETMO, which is 00:40:08.739 --> 00:40:11.920 our main office in East Texas, working on some 00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:17.599 one at the, oh, stay off or stay on. Don't do 00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:22.420 that. So one fiber distribution switch at the 00:40:22.420 --> 00:40:25.900 woods still to go, one at the towers. Okay. I 00:40:25.900 --> 00:40:28.519 think the biggest thing I'm staring at is that 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.019 I'm probably about to put together a proposal. 00:40:31.789 --> 00:40:34.090 And to argue that we should get rid of our three 00:40:34.090 --> 00:40:38.289 -year -old firewalls from Cisco and replace them 00:40:38.289 --> 00:40:42.369 with the Fortinet FortiGate. Well, I mean, I 00:40:42.369 --> 00:40:44.570 guess, yeah. If you're moving in that direction, 00:40:44.650 --> 00:40:47.929 that's... Yeah. And it really is, it's all about 00:40:47.929 --> 00:40:52.429 dollars and cents. Which makes total sense. Yeah. 00:40:52.650 --> 00:40:57.429 And what I like when Fortinet is offering is... 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.539 I can put the cloud management on the firewall, 00:41:01.860 --> 00:41:05.000 and then my switches and my access points that 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:09.360 are behind the firewall do not need cloud licensing. 00:41:09.739 --> 00:41:15.619 I can manage them all from the FortiGate. Now, 00:41:15.659 --> 00:41:20.280 I still have to put support on those, but I don't 00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:24.500 have to have a cloud license per device, which 00:41:24.500 --> 00:41:28.579 is the Meraki model. Right. fully prepared to 00:41:28.579 --> 00:41:31.619 commit to that right but the cisco model that 00:41:31.619 --> 00:41:34.900 still has that doubles the price and so it was 00:41:34.900 --> 00:41:37.480 like yeah we've got to throw that one out we 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:42.820 can't go that way i mean it's just it's hard 00:41:42.820 --> 00:41:50.119 not to be um i don't know jaded by it because 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:53.960 you're like i i'm trying as hard as i can to 00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:56.760 justify to other people how much all of this 00:41:56.760 --> 00:42:00.579 stuff costs. Correct. And y 'all are not helping. 00:42:00.860 --> 00:42:03.559 Yep. So it's going to be very weird to go, hey, 00:42:03.619 --> 00:42:07.139 I know three years ago I said we need to buy 00:42:07.139 --> 00:42:09.639 this equipment, and it was the right decision 00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:13.300 then. But stuff changed yesterday. Everything 00:42:13.300 --> 00:42:17.159 is now out the window, and this is where we need 00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.920 to be. I mean, but that's how fast it changes. 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.289 Unfortunately, yes. I really wish that Cisco 00:42:23.289 --> 00:42:26.530 would not have touched Meraki. You know, it was 00:42:26.530 --> 00:42:29.710 a solid product for the price. Yeah. Yeah, there 00:42:29.710 --> 00:42:33.769 is a lot of licensing involved. And for some 00:42:33.769 --> 00:42:38.269 folks, that's not palatable. Ooh, and I get it. 00:42:40.590 --> 00:42:42.369 Okay, I think the power's going to stay this 00:42:42.369 --> 00:42:47.309 time, folks. Don't say that. That's a football 00:42:47.309 --> 00:42:50.050 fan right there, not a baseball fan. Yeah, yeah, 00:42:50.090 --> 00:42:53.289 yeah. I'm just saying baseball fans know better. 00:42:53.369 --> 00:42:56.150 You don't talk about it. Yeah. Y 'all are a little 00:42:56.150 --> 00:42:58.309 too superstitious. I, you can say that all you 00:42:58.309 --> 00:43:01.650 want, but if changing my seat makes them win, 00:43:01.750 --> 00:43:06.050 I am going to do it. Yep. I wore this hat and 00:43:06.050 --> 00:43:08.150 this shirt on the last game and we won. I'm going 00:43:08.150 --> 00:43:13.090 to wear it again. That's right. Yep. Cause anyway. 00:43:14.550 --> 00:43:18.420 Yeah. So trying to tie that up. along with a 00:43:18.420 --> 00:43:22.320 few little odds and ends for summer, and we're 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.579 going to be full bore. Goodness. So it's coming 00:43:25.579 --> 00:43:31.900 on, whether we want it to or not. Well, this 00:43:31.900 --> 00:43:35.980 episode clearly brought to you by Battery Backups. 00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:40.159 Yes. Thank you, Battery Backup. You were noisy, 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.539 but you did your job. APC, knocking it out of 00:43:43.539 --> 00:43:47.320 the park. They make a good product. Yeah. Make 00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:50.900 a good product. Who was I talking to? Oh, we're 00:43:50.900 --> 00:43:58.659 trying to chase a power ghost right now in our 00:43:58.659 --> 00:44:04.780 main audio system, and it is a beast. Yeah, there 00:44:04.780 --> 00:44:09.079 was some slight buzzing going on there. And I'm 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:15.559 not talking about the beer. Man, I wish. Yeah. 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:22.920 So you had said that you were having some Wi 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:26.059 -Fi troubles at the student building. Let's talk 00:44:26.059 --> 00:44:28.039 through that. Yeah, so the grade school building 00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:36.960 on our campus is a two -story. What is that? 00:44:37.699 --> 00:44:41.960 Well, 12 classrooms, but that's because upstairs 00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:47.380 there is a large. um meeting space um that's 00:44:47.380 --> 00:44:53.360 got a large uh lobby um and then a big old uh 00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:58.440 two -story uh playground in it yeah um and the 00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.300 playground is really cool because it kind of 00:45:01.300 --> 00:45:04.280 feels like five stories to kids because of um 00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.480 how you know whatever so you get all the way 00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:08.900 up to the top and then you go down the slide 00:45:08.900 --> 00:45:13.730 and it's like holy cow that thing anyway Pretty 00:45:13.730 --> 00:45:19.949 fun for adults, too. Anyway. Dang. Kaboom. I 00:45:19.949 --> 00:45:29.210 think we just lost the internet. But all that 00:45:29.210 --> 00:45:35.369 to kind of set a picture. We started our network 00:45:35.369 --> 00:45:39.530 in that, especially our Wi -Fi. Now, this was 00:45:39.530 --> 00:45:44.289 a good, like, At our church, we actually have 00:45:44.289 --> 00:45:49.809 had really good history of, except for the first 00:45:49.809 --> 00:45:53.630 building, the other buildings that were built, 00:45:53.730 --> 00:45:57.630 they did include a lot of data drops. And then 00:45:57.630 --> 00:45:59.969 when we did the grade school building, which 00:45:59.969 --> 00:46:08.590 was the last building that we have built, we 00:46:08.590 --> 00:46:12.869 did a lot. of data drops. I'm trying to just 00:46:12.869 --> 00:46:15.550 make sure that we don't have to come back. And 00:46:15.550 --> 00:46:18.849 sure enough, I'm going to have to come back on 00:46:18.849 --> 00:46:24.309 one of the walls. Okay. But I'll tell you about 00:46:24.309 --> 00:46:29.190 that later. Okay. But the, the first round that 00:46:29.190 --> 00:46:32.730 we did with, with everything was, was to put 00:46:32.730 --> 00:46:38.949 just APs in the ceiling, kind of in the couple 00:46:38.949 --> 00:46:44.619 in the, meeting room one in each hallway kind 00:46:44.619 --> 00:46:51.460 of by there's a downstairs western you know quad 00:46:51.460 --> 00:46:55.880 of rooms so put one up there and then on the 00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:00.179 or did we do two did we do one on the north side 00:47:00.179 --> 00:47:02.260 one on the south side of each i think we did 00:47:02.260 --> 00:47:05.619 yes um and then we did that on the west side 00:47:05.619 --> 00:47:08.019 downstairs and then we did that on the earth 00:47:08.019 --> 00:47:09.719 sorry the east side downstairs and then we did 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:12.440 it on the east side upstairs so really we were 00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:16.019 running off of and then two in the lobby one 00:47:16.019 --> 00:47:18.320 upstairs in the lobby one downstairs in the lobby 00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:22.239 yep um again that's off the top of my head but 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.460 i believe that's what we did first then um it 00:47:25.460 --> 00:47:28.639 was always the plan to put in tvs in the classrooms 00:47:30.170 --> 00:47:33.969 Um, and I don't know if we decided before we 00:47:33.969 --> 00:47:36.429 put in the TVs or like as we were putting together 00:47:36.429 --> 00:47:41.809 that, um, package for the ministries to approve. 00:47:42.190 --> 00:47:45.349 It was one of those, like we could do like a 00:47:45.349 --> 00:47:47.010 bunch of different offerings. Like you could 00:47:47.010 --> 00:47:51.829 do a HDMI cable out. You can do, uh, DVD players 00:47:51.829 --> 00:47:53.510 and all of them. I do think we bought Blu -ray 00:47:53.510 --> 00:47:56.690 players for every room that we didn't install 00:47:56.690 --> 00:48:03.670 them in every room. Um, because. Really? Who's 00:48:03.670 --> 00:48:06.929 carrying a Blu -ray around with them anymore? 00:48:07.269 --> 00:48:11.710 True. But regardless, the idea was to have three 00:48:11.710 --> 00:48:14.429 inputs. You do an Apple TV, you do a Blu -ray 00:48:14.429 --> 00:48:19.250 player, and then you do an extra. We may have 00:48:19.250 --> 00:48:21.409 only been able to do two, and that's why some 00:48:21.409 --> 00:48:28.590 of them automatically don't have a Blu -ray player. 00:48:28.690 --> 00:48:32.389 But regardless. Also, it was just the other step 00:48:32.389 --> 00:48:34.070 of having to mount because all of these are wall 00:48:34.070 --> 00:48:38.969 mounted TVs. And we put network at the same spot 00:48:38.969 --> 00:48:41.969 that we did. And this was really great for those 00:48:41.969 --> 00:48:46.610 of you that are actually planning rooms like 00:48:46.610 --> 00:48:50.150 building or anything like that. As you're planning 00:48:50.150 --> 00:48:54.869 for any kind of wall mounted, whatever it is. 00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:57.579 um if if you've got a network drop that you're 00:48:57.579 --> 00:48:59.519 putting in the middle of the wall for something 00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.500 like a tv or anything like that make sure you 00:49:02.500 --> 00:49:07.380 get them to put uh wood in the wall behind the 00:49:07.380 --> 00:49:10.139 tv and i'm not talking about like this is a big 00:49:10.139 --> 00:49:14.420 metal building so most of the um studs are metal 00:49:14.420 --> 00:49:19.860 but um even between the metal studs even or even 00:49:19.860 --> 00:49:23.119 if you had wooden studs between the wooden studs 00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:24.880 in the area that you're going to put it, just 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:31.679 get them to put just big old, you know, blocks 00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:34.659 of wood or, you know, like three quarter inch 00:49:34.659 --> 00:49:39.139 plywood between and secure it to the studs, whatever 00:49:39.139 --> 00:49:41.840 you have. Like anyway, you're not going to regret 00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:46.579 it because the ability that I have to walk into 00:49:46.579 --> 00:49:50.000 a room and be like, that's where the, um, network 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.639 drop is so right below that is where that piece 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:57.820 of wood is and i just hammer this yep um tv mount 00:49:57.820 --> 00:50:00.579 into that and i don't have to find studs i don't 00:50:00.579 --> 00:50:04.280 have to try to figure out if i'm doing anchors 00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.940 or anything like that i'm just you know lag bolting 00:50:07.940 --> 00:50:11.420 this thing in basically pretty much but let's 00:50:11.420 --> 00:50:15.079 off the topic so all that to say all of that 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:18.889 was set up When we put in the TVs, we decided 00:50:18.889 --> 00:50:22.869 to, instead of one of the problems that we were 00:50:22.869 --> 00:50:30.449 having, this was 2019, early 2019, because we 00:50:30.449 --> 00:50:37.289 opened in August of 2019. So this would have 00:50:37.289 --> 00:50:41.750 been right before we opened that building. We 00:50:41.750 --> 00:50:44.289 started to realize in the rooms that we had that 00:50:44.289 --> 00:50:48.000 we were using Apple TVs. Or the big rooms that 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:55.039 we were using that use Apple TV. The connectivity 00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:59.679 issues, the dropping or whatever, can be mostly 00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:04.659 solved by putting the Apple TV, not even both 00:51:04.659 --> 00:51:08.639 devices, just the Apple TV, wired onto the network. 00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:14.420 Now that seems like a no -brainer. Don't use 00:51:14.420 --> 00:51:19.150 Wi -Fi for... whatever, but it, you only have 00:51:19.150 --> 00:51:22.190 to do it in one direction. As long as you can 00:51:22.190 --> 00:51:29.469 take off one of the wifi. I just, I can't really 00:51:29.469 --> 00:51:31.349 like, I wish I could quantify it for you. I wish 00:51:31.349 --> 00:51:36.369 I had the data for that. But the amount of stability 00:51:36.369 --> 00:51:39.769 that, that you gain by just putting the Apple 00:51:39.769 --> 00:51:43.070 TV on the network. So basically at that point 00:51:43.070 --> 00:51:50.190 we were like, what if instead of just doing the 00:51:50.190 --> 00:51:57.630 Apple TV wired in, what if we did a, um, ubiquity 00:51:57.630 --> 00:52:02.670 has the, um, wall mounted, um, APs, but they 00:52:02.670 --> 00:52:08.090 have wall mounted APs that have, uh, four. Um, 00:52:08.329 --> 00:52:11.829 I mean, it's just a dumb switch, right? It's 00:52:11.829 --> 00:52:15.630 not, yeah, there's not, it's not actually, The 00:52:15.630 --> 00:52:19.230 ones that we have, maybe the new ones are better. 00:52:19.650 --> 00:52:22.829 I don't know that there's port. You can configure 00:52:22.829 --> 00:52:25.090 the ports. You can? Yeah, you can give them VLANs 00:52:25.090 --> 00:52:27.250 and the whole nine. Wow, okay. I didn't even 00:52:27.250 --> 00:52:31.250 think that that was the case. So it's got four 00:52:31.250 --> 00:52:37.130 port configurable or four configurable ports. 00:52:38.090 --> 00:52:41.550 The KBS is taking effect. Oh, my gosh. I'm just 00:52:41.550 --> 00:52:46.670 tired. And, yes, 12%. um you want to pass the 00:52:46.670 --> 00:52:51.110 opener chris is over here on his second beer 00:52:51.110 --> 00:52:59.210 i'm going in um so yeah so now you have the whole 00:52:59.210 --> 00:53:02.429 picture now in each of these thank you in each 00:53:02.429 --> 00:53:06.329 of these 12 classrooms um we left up a lot of 00:53:06.329 --> 00:53:11.510 the singular aps um i think we took a few of 00:53:11.510 --> 00:53:15.289 them down No, we took most of those down, I think, 00:53:15.309 --> 00:53:17.769 because we wanted to increase in a couple different 00:53:17.769 --> 00:53:20.849 areas. Correct. You want to tell us what you're 00:53:20.849 --> 00:53:23.730 drinking? Yeah, real quick. No blurb on the label. 00:53:24.010 --> 00:53:27.829 That's a bummer. But this is the Kentucky Bourbon 00:53:27.829 --> 00:53:32.690 Barrel Imperial Milk Stout. Milk Stout. It is. 00:53:34.030 --> 00:53:37.309 It smells good. I've enjoyed the ones that I've 00:53:37.309 --> 00:53:39.849 drank, but there's something about calling it 00:53:39.849 --> 00:53:42.329 a milk stout that just makes me want to kind 00:53:42.329 --> 00:53:46.469 of gag. I don't know what that is. It's not bad. 00:53:46.650 --> 00:53:52.090 No, I'm sure it's great. Smells good. Now this 00:53:52.090 --> 00:53:55.489 one, as I had said before, the bourbon really 00:53:55.489 --> 00:54:00.909 comes out in this one. Okay. So bottoms up folks. 00:54:10.099 --> 00:54:16.380 Nice. So we took out some of the multi -room 00:54:16.380 --> 00:54:20.340 APs, and basically every classroom has one of 00:54:20.340 --> 00:54:24.340 these APs in it. Correct. And this is great. 00:54:24.460 --> 00:54:26.239 They're all kind of facing the same direction 00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:31.300 on each side. You know, they're on opposite walls 00:54:31.300 --> 00:54:34.619 when you cross the center line of the building. 00:54:36.510 --> 00:54:43.070 in in each classroom actually i don't know that 00:54:43.070 --> 00:54:46.969 that's true i think some rooms there i think 00:54:46.969 --> 00:54:48.809 that they're pointed at each other well they're 00:54:48.809 --> 00:54:53.550 on opposite sides of the wall right yeah no they're 00:54:53.550 --> 00:54:57.010 on opposite ends they're pointed back towards 00:54:57.010 --> 00:54:59.409 each other okay i guess i thought we had some 00:54:59.409 --> 00:55:02.630 where they were literally back to back but the 00:55:02.630 --> 00:55:06.119 transmission was going out in into the room and 00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:08.780 they see that that would have been better because 00:55:08.780 --> 00:55:11.440 now that i'm realizing some of this like this 00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:13.280 some of the problems that we're having are making 00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:17.440 sense because they put the doors back to back 00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:22.659 in these rooms and so when you walk in the the 00:55:22.659 --> 00:55:27.119 door opens and then you kind of walk more into 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:31.059 the opening in whatever direction And you want 00:55:31.059 --> 00:55:33.539 to walk in or they wanted people to be able to 00:55:33.539 --> 00:55:36.039 walk in more at the back of the room than at 00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:38.480 the front of the room. So if they put the TV 00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:43.320 on the wall that the door is closest to or basically 00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:46.280 on, then that would be opening to the front of 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:49.139 the room. So they put the TV on the opposite 00:55:49.139 --> 00:55:51.900 wall, which means that with the doors close together, 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:55.679 the TVs are pointing at each other, which means 00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:58.260 the APs behind the TVs are pointing at each other. 00:56:00.150 --> 00:56:05.010 So it's been quite a few months. I don't think 00:56:05.010 --> 00:56:06.650 it happened right at the beginning of us installing 00:56:06.650 --> 00:56:09.909 all these. But it's been quite a few months. 00:56:09.989 --> 00:56:18.289 And every time I open the UniFi app, it tells 00:56:18.289 --> 00:56:24.110 me that especially one of them, C103, is like... 00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:33.380 Offline. Well, it's not even offline. Like it's, 00:56:33.420 --> 00:56:40.519 it's just having a terrible experience. Um, and 00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:48.940 so it's like negative 30. Um, so the, um, I've 00:56:48.940 --> 00:56:52.460 had a few like, you know, in the negative 45, 00:56:52.460 --> 00:56:58.309 50, maybe negative 50 range. Um, upstairs in 00:56:58.309 --> 00:57:03.929 the same area so 203 um it actually says that 00:57:03.929 --> 00:57:10.710 um but the the uh 203 um upstairs i've actually 00:57:10.710 --> 00:57:14.789 that's the one i've actually had people um tell 00:57:14.789 --> 00:57:19.389 me like hey we're not able to connect in exactly 00:57:19.389 --> 00:57:23.239 the way that we should like we're We're having 00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:26.260 a hard time connecting to the Apple TV or whatever. 00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:29.659 And so, you know, is there something you can 00:57:29.659 --> 00:57:33.039 do about it? And I'm like, yes, absolutely. Thank 00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:37.079 you for asking me. And also dad comment. Like 00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:39.099 we, we tried to make this kind of bulletproof. 00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:45.179 So that, that's kind of what's going on. Open 00:57:45.179 --> 00:57:51.340 the portal here. Really quickly. See exactly 00:57:51.340 --> 00:58:00.809 where we are. If it'll actually connect. Please, 00:58:00.869 --> 00:58:06.889 please. Come on, Internet. You can do it. You 00:58:06.889 --> 00:58:11.449 can do it. I believe in you. Oh, it took me to 00:58:11.449 --> 00:58:13.690 the store. Don't take me to the store. Okay, 00:58:13.730 --> 00:58:17.070 there we go. Hey, it sees a new device. That's 00:58:17.070 --> 00:58:24.860 fun. I got to do some phone work. Tomorrow. Uh 00:58:24.860 --> 00:58:31.000 -oh. We moved offices. Or we didn't. A lot of 00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:32.679 the staff moved from the grade school building 00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:35.739 to the preschool building. Everything's fine. 00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:41.639 It's just hard to get everything plugged in again. 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:49.039 Network. Dashboard. There it is. So, yeah, right 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:55.309 now. C -103 and C -204 are in the negative... 00:58:55.309 --> 00:59:04.369 What is that? 81. Okay. Yeah, negative 80s is 00:59:04.369 --> 00:59:07.590 getting into a bad spot. Yeah. So right now we're... 00:59:07.590 --> 00:59:10.849 I guess I had that wrong in my head. But the... 00:59:10.849 --> 00:59:15.610 Man, I didn't think I did. But I didn't feel 00:59:15.610 --> 00:59:19.880 like I was that way. Maybe it's... Nope. it's 00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:24.599 not different between uh 2 .4 and five so it's 00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:26.820 a little different but not much different um 00:59:26.820 --> 00:59:30.800 but yeah that that dispersion is not like there 00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:35.840 there's some serious interference going on on 00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:42.800 that east side of the building um and it is both 00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.199 both of them are the the wall mounted there's 00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:50.420 it's not one of them uh Flying saucers. Yeah. 00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:56.300 I put more credence to people saying they're 00:59:56.300 --> 01:00:01.340 having a problem than I do Unify's dashboard. 01:00:03.420 --> 01:00:07.280 But I mean, the dashboard could give you an indication 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:10.500 that you might have a problem. It is interesting. 01:00:10.659 --> 01:00:12.820 Okay. I thought they were the same, but it's 01:00:12.820 --> 01:00:16.559 actually in the 2 .4 gigahertz. The dashboard 01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:21.000 shows C103 and C104 having problems, and the 01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:30.059 5 GHz has C204 and C103. So C103 is just inconsolable. 01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:34.300 It doesn't know what to do with its life. Help 01:00:34.300 --> 01:00:40.539 me. Help. Help. I'll tell you what's been more 01:00:40.539 --> 01:00:42.949 finicky than I was hoping it would be. because 01:00:42.949 --> 01:00:46.369 they seem to do fine in actual practice, but 01:00:46.369 --> 01:00:50.989 in terms of them dropping randomly and me getting 01:00:50.989 --> 01:00:53.550 a notification about it, have been the extenders. 01:00:54.190 --> 01:00:57.090 I've seen those notifications. And I found out 01:00:57.090 --> 01:01:00.050 one of them was because people keep unplugging 01:01:00.050 --> 01:01:04.489 it. And I was like, don't. Don't unplug the gear, 01:01:04.570 --> 01:01:07.989 man. I took the LED off of it, or took the LED. 01:01:08.070 --> 01:01:15.639 I turned the LED off on it, and I was like. If 01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:20.059 the big bright blue light is what's drawing you 01:01:20.059 --> 01:01:25.460 to touch this thing, just don't. Don't. But you 01:01:25.460 --> 01:01:29.179 never know. The last time that I remember seeing 01:01:29.179 --> 01:01:31.480 those, and so when I started seeing it coming 01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:35.800 back, I'm like, oh no, not again. Was that started 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:42.070 right before the... The controller being confused 01:01:42.070 --> 01:01:46.190 on what was on what port and some of the throughput 01:01:46.190 --> 01:01:48.909 issues that we were having for Sundays. Yeah, 01:01:48.989 --> 01:01:51.309 that would be bad. And so when I saw it come 01:01:51.309 --> 01:01:53.909 back a couple of times, I'm like, oh, please, 01:01:53.989 --> 01:01:56.869 no, not again. Yeah, so those are like their 01:01:56.869 --> 01:02:00.730 mesh setups. They're just extenders. They're 01:02:00.730 --> 01:02:07.010 not actually hard -lined into anything. But I 01:02:07.010 --> 01:02:11.599 know for sure. like the the southwest one in 01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:14.900 the great room has been pretty rock solid but 01:02:14.900 --> 01:02:18.199 the um northeast has had more problems i think 01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:20.539 i just need to move the northeast closer to that 01:02:20.539 --> 01:02:29.239 uh ap you know there are two um uh power power 01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:31.800 blocks there's yeah two two plugs on that wall 01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:34.539 two outlets and and i just need to move it to 01:02:34.539 --> 01:02:38.360 the one that's closer to where Whatever, I was 01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:41.639 just trying to get closer to the, there's a little 01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:44.920 desk in that corner that people sit at for no 01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:52.079 good reason other than it's a desk. And are like, 01:02:52.179 --> 01:02:58.199 why can't I get the Wi -Fi to work? Because it's 01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:03.039 not like oxygen. I don't know what to tell people. 01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:06.219 Well, what I find interesting on both of those 01:03:06.219 --> 01:03:09.539 extenders, is that they're indicating their parent 01:03:09.539 --> 01:03:12.900 device is the family room access point. Both 01:03:12.900 --> 01:03:15.059 of them? As of right now, yeah, as I look at 01:03:15.059 --> 01:03:22.840 it. I could see the North coming off the family. 01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:25.519 Well, I could see it coming off the family. The 01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:28.079 North should come off the family. The South should 01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:30.900 come off the stage. Stage or the booth. Yeah. 01:03:32.579 --> 01:03:35.119 Interesting. So, I mean, that is intriguing unless... 01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.679 It's extender to extender and then that extender 01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:42.059 over to the family room. And that would be kind 01:03:42.059 --> 01:03:45.820 of weird as well. Yeah, if they're just dead 01:03:45.820 --> 01:03:50.719 set on trying to be in the same one, maybe. And 01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:56.619 I don't know that you can pin it to another AP. 01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:08.690 I did shut down some of the... I did shut down 01:04:08.690 --> 01:04:19.570 some of the Wi -Fi's. Oh, the SSIDs? Yeah, sorry, 01:04:19.730 --> 01:04:23.510 the SSIDs. Thank you for using real language. 01:04:24.429 --> 01:04:28.510 I did shut down some of the SSIDs on a few of 01:04:28.510 --> 01:04:32.329 the APs because we were having problems with 01:04:32.329 --> 01:04:36.309 people jumping on. And I added one to the... 01:04:38.389 --> 01:04:42.750 kiosk area for the main building because, and 01:04:42.750 --> 01:04:46.110 that one only has check -in on it. Okay. Yep. 01:04:47.289 --> 01:04:52.489 But anyway. Okay. Can't remember what I did to 01:04:52.489 --> 01:04:56.369 sound booth. Maybe I'd, Hey, that says insufficient 01:04:56.369 --> 01:05:00.230 power detected. Oh, on the sound booth. That's 01:05:00.230 --> 01:05:01.829 the one that we, yeah, that's, that's the wifi 01:05:01.829 --> 01:05:04.769 seven, but didn't you put the injector? Yeah. 01:05:04.869 --> 01:05:09.139 So I gotta go check that out. that's i wish like 01:05:09.139 --> 01:05:11.340 that that's just kind of on that it's not actually 01:05:11.340 --> 01:05:14.239 on them like it's not telling me that anywhere 01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:21.519 else i wish that that uh i wish i got something 01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:25.199 on that that wasn't me looking for it because 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:31.699 that would have been good to know yeah i think 01:05:31.699 --> 01:05:34.159 i i think i locked that one down to just be staff 01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:46.219 okay and identity in the hopes that we could 01:05:46.219 --> 01:05:50.699 make that do better. I don't know what I did 01:05:50.699 --> 01:05:53.960 to stage. Probably the same. That's probably 01:05:53.960 --> 01:06:01.059 why those are pulling from. Dang. Kaboom, baby. 01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:05.199 Yeah, look at the AP itself. I don't see anything. 01:06:05.710 --> 01:06:08.730 Where it says that it's underpowered. Where were 01:06:08.730 --> 01:06:14.769 you seeing that at? I'm on the network app or 01:06:14.769 --> 01:06:18.369 interface, and then I went down to unified devices, 01:06:18.449 --> 01:06:23.510 and then I went down to wherever it is, sound 01:06:23.510 --> 01:06:27.110 booth, great room number 16, and when I clicked 01:06:27.110 --> 01:06:31.030 on it, now it doesn't have it. Yeah, I was going 01:06:31.030 --> 01:06:32.670 to say, I didn't see anything talking about. 01:06:34.059 --> 01:06:36.320 Insufficient power looking at the access point 01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:40.219 itself. That must have been like a caching weird 01:06:40.219 --> 01:06:45.739 thing because I don't see it anymore. Nope. Cool. 01:06:45.820 --> 01:06:47.579 That makes me feel better because I was like, 01:06:47.619 --> 01:06:52.039 I fixed that problem. And I noticed you've got 01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:54.219 that one in two different AP groups. I didn't 01:06:54.219 --> 01:06:57.579 know if that was on purpose or not. No. It's 01:06:57.579 --> 01:07:05.659 in SSBC staff and all APs. Yeah, I don't really 01:07:05.659 --> 01:07:11.880 know how all APs, because the only thing that's 01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:19.480 being propagated with all APs is the identity, 01:07:19.739 --> 01:07:24.239 unify identity stuff. So we should either rename 01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:27.340 that in order to make it obvious what it actually 01:07:27.340 --> 01:07:31.440 is or use it differently. Because I don't know 01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:36.469 what we would provision with. all aps well originally 01:07:36.469 --> 01:07:40.230 that's where all of them were and then we decided 01:07:40.230 --> 01:07:42.050 hey we want to break this up because we need 01:07:42.050 --> 01:07:45.969 these radios to only be check -in yeah the check 01:07:45.969 --> 01:07:49.510 -in was the impetus yeah so we we broke that 01:07:49.510 --> 01:07:56.389 into uh check -in staff and then south spring 01:07:56.389 --> 01:07:59.869 i believe yeah which was the guest yeah and some 01:07:59.869 --> 01:08:03.409 of them We're in multiple groups. Some of them 01:08:03.409 --> 01:08:07.510 were only in the check -in group. Sorry, I'm 01:08:07.510 --> 01:08:09.550 shaking my head because the number of people 01:08:09.550 --> 01:08:16.569 that feel like the guest network, even though 01:08:16.569 --> 01:08:20.829 it's not called the guest network, I wanted to 01:08:20.829 --> 01:08:22.590 make sure that we didn't call it the guest network 01:08:22.590 --> 01:08:26.710 because I feel like there's a mindset about guest 01:08:26.710 --> 01:08:31.640 networks. It's just called South Spring. Because 01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:35.180 there's no password on it, the number of people 01:08:35.180 --> 01:08:37.340 that are like, oh, I need to get on the other 01:08:37.340 --> 01:08:41.720 Wi -Fi. I'm like, no, you don't. It's not like 01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:45.100 there's not a bad experience going on. And somebody 01:08:45.100 --> 01:08:48.340 tell me it doesn't work. I was like, it does. 01:08:48.819 --> 01:08:53.939 I see that it does. I will get on it right now 01:08:53.939 --> 01:08:58.880 and show you that it does. I don't know what 01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:02.340 that is, man. Well, I think people are just used 01:09:02.340 --> 01:09:05.939 to guests being throttled. Yeah. And they're 01:09:05.939 --> 01:09:09.939 like, oh, I can't be throttled. I need total 01:09:09.939 --> 01:09:13.100 power. All of it. You know, it's that whole Tim 01:09:13.100 --> 01:09:15.520 Allen, more power. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 01:09:16.939 --> 01:09:20.119 So I guess we haven't gone to that level. We 01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:25.539 still have guests. Well. It's specifically your 01:09:25.539 --> 01:09:29.760 own guest. I think it makes sense in other places. 01:09:30.350 --> 01:09:33.689 I think that if we had set it up earlier than 01:09:33.689 --> 01:09:35.930 we did, then I probably would have called it 01:09:35.930 --> 01:09:37.449 guest and we wouldn't have changed it before 01:09:37.449 --> 01:09:39.590 now. Yeah. But we're about to have to change 01:09:39.590 --> 01:09:45.210 the staff password because freaking Apple keeps 01:09:45.210 --> 01:09:48.989 making it too easy for people to share passwords 01:09:48.989 --> 01:09:51.489 with each other. But John, you're an Apple guy. 01:09:52.130 --> 01:09:55.750 I am. You're right. How can you talk trash about 01:09:55.750 --> 01:10:00.609 Apple? I feel like it's like a family thing. 01:10:00.789 --> 01:10:05.369 If I talk bad about my family, that's fine because 01:10:05.369 --> 01:10:08.289 it's my family. If you talk bad about my family, 01:10:08.390 --> 01:10:11.710 then we're going to have to talk about this in 01:10:11.710 --> 01:10:13.630 a different way. We're going to come to fisticuffs. 01:10:13.909 --> 01:10:20.390 Right, fisticuffs. Good job. You've got to love 01:10:20.390 --> 01:10:26.300 a product built around people. And individuals. 01:10:26.619 --> 01:10:28.819 Yeah. And yet you're just supposed to go, oh, 01:10:28.899 --> 01:10:32.760 it worked for business too. No, it doesn't. No, 01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:35.539 it doesn't. And it doesn't like, like there's, 01:10:35.859 --> 01:10:38.579 you know, like I want to be able to trust everybody, 01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:45.100 but that's not reality. Yes. And so the idea 01:10:45.100 --> 01:10:49.060 that you, you know, I do appreciate that they've 01:10:49.060 --> 01:10:53.100 gone to pretty, pretty extreme lengths in some 01:10:53.100 --> 01:10:57.689 ways to. make sure security is happening in different 01:10:57.689 --> 01:11:00.909 ways i get that and and sometimes it's a security 01:11:00.909 --> 01:11:04.289 because like you can't actually touch that yep 01:11:04.289 --> 01:11:08.550 which gets annoying but i i get it i get it i 01:11:08.550 --> 01:11:11.010 get it i really do get it and then you're like 01:11:11.010 --> 01:11:13.449 you know what you just have to hit this little 01:11:13.449 --> 01:11:17.449 button and it'll share your yep known wi -fi 01:11:17.449 --> 01:11:21.430 with anybody who you have in your contacts pretty 01:11:21.430 --> 01:11:25.560 much no don't do that I feel your pain. I feel 01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:28.439 your pain. That's why we've got to get to an 01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:31.180 MDM solution so that we can push it via policy. 01:11:31.340 --> 01:11:34.859 And this goes away, bro. Okay. So no, I was really 01:11:34.859 --> 01:11:40.260 like, I was, I was on all kinds of websites the 01:11:40.260 --> 01:11:43.579 other day looking at, is there any part of this 01:11:43.579 --> 01:11:47.939 that we can kind of retrofit based on what we 01:11:47.939 --> 01:11:50.859 already have? Cause Apple does have MDM. Sure. 01:11:51.220 --> 01:11:53.770 You know, and we've, now that we've, done the 01:11:53.770 --> 01:11:57.630 business side of it in order to start making 01:11:57.630 --> 01:12:01.229 gains towards what's going to be necessary for 01:12:01.229 --> 01:12:07.329 enrolling our devices um you know there's some 01:12:07.329 --> 01:12:09.630 of that that i'm trying to look at and figure 01:12:09.630 --> 01:12:13.250 out and then it's like oh okay so no it really 01:12:13.250 --> 01:12:16.869 does become like a we need to figure out like 01:12:16.869 --> 01:12:22.029 a single sign -on solution that's not Active 01:12:22.029 --> 01:12:28.149 Directory dependent if we're using our internal 01:12:28.149 --> 01:12:32.489 server for Active Directory. Yep. So then, you 01:12:32.489 --> 01:12:34.810 know, going down the Active Directory rabbit 01:12:34.810 --> 01:12:39.250 hole at 11 o 'clock at night at home, sitting 01:12:39.250 --> 01:12:43.750 on my bed. This makes me happy. What are you 01:12:43.750 --> 01:12:48.109 doing, babe? Just trying to figure out how to 01:12:48.109 --> 01:12:53.880 do this. Yep. That makes you happy? No, no, no, 01:12:53.939 --> 01:12:58.300 no. As much as I hate to say it, you've really 01:12:58.300 --> 01:13:00.359 got to get away from the active directory. No, 01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:06.000 we definitely do. And I agree. It's one of those, 01:13:06.100 --> 01:13:11.420 there's just too many drawbacks now. I mean, 01:13:11.420 --> 01:13:13.579 it's not really too many drawbacks. It's a single 01:13:13.579 --> 01:13:17.319 drawback that you just keep running into in different 01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:22.600 situations. Yep. But anyway. So, but I mean, 01:13:22.619 --> 01:13:25.420 we've looked at the Univice solution. Yeah. It 01:13:25.420 --> 01:13:28.039 could work. We looked at some other solutions 01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:32.420 that are out there. There's definitely options. 01:13:32.579 --> 01:13:35.100 It just comes down to. Who you want to pay. Who 01:13:35.100 --> 01:13:38.760 you want to pay. Absolutely. And what do you 01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:42.880 want to get for that money in return? Yeah. Maybe 01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:44.279 we should have just been talking about that the 01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:47.399 whole time. Which one of these do you want to 01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:52.279 build the rest of them? Well, we've obviously 01:13:52.279 --> 01:13:54.439 hitched our wagon to JumpCloud. Yes, you have. 01:13:55.460 --> 01:13:58.800 Works well for us. Yeah. Replaces Active Directory, 01:13:58.939 --> 01:14:01.979 gives you mobile device management, gives you 01:14:01.979 --> 01:14:06.600 single sign -on. Yeah. They offer some non -profit 01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:09.180 pricing, which is always nice. I was looking 01:14:09.180 --> 01:14:15.819 at the JumpCloud integration with Google. Yep. 01:14:17.699 --> 01:14:21.560 Is that both directions? Well, that depends. 01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:26.420 When you add somebody, who do you? Well, when 01:14:26.420 --> 01:14:30.060 you add somebody to JumpCloud, it will go out 01:14:30.060 --> 01:14:32.579 and create a Google account for them. That's 01:14:32.579 --> 01:14:34.500 what I was asking. So that you can get. I guess 01:14:34.500 --> 01:14:37.159 where I'd say it depends is who do you want to 01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:40.680 be the source of truth for password management? 01:14:40.979 --> 01:14:43.180 Right. Do you want that to be JumpCloud? Do you 01:14:43.180 --> 01:14:45.340 want that to be Google? Yeah. And I understand 01:14:45.340 --> 01:14:50.100 like there's the. weirdness of that and what 01:14:50.100 --> 01:14:52.100 i don't want to do is pick one of these and then 01:14:52.100 --> 01:14:57.760 use the wrong one correct uh be creating these 01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:00.159 accounts and everything because what we were 01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:02.220 stuck in and are actually still stuck in right 01:15:02.220 --> 01:15:05.359 now is that like i have to create accounts in 01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:09.680 a bunch of different areas and then tell people 01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:13.079 like okay you can use the same password it's 01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:20.369 not advised yep um Yeah, we still have not done 01:15:20.369 --> 01:15:24.829 the directory integration with Google yet. Really? 01:15:25.069 --> 01:15:27.210 Yeah. I would have expected you all to do that. 01:15:27.350 --> 01:15:31.430 It's on the list. There's a lot of pieces there 01:15:31.430 --> 01:15:34.090 that we're still working on. Like even single 01:15:34.090 --> 01:15:36.170 sign -on, we're still primarily just using it 01:15:36.170 --> 01:15:39.829 in our department. Really? But we've tested it. 01:15:39.869 --> 01:15:42.670 It works great. Do you have intentions of rolling 01:15:42.670 --> 01:15:47.279 it out to Salesforce, Workday, other? other pieces. 01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:52.199 I think what we're ultimately waiting on is the 01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:54.899 integration with Workday because that has the 01:15:54.899 --> 01:15:58.119 ability to trigger multiple pieces for us. They 01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:00.840 create the person in Workday. It syncs in the 01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:04.000 JumpCloud, syncs them in the Google, and then 01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.939 single sign -on says, okay, you can go here, 01:16:06.979 --> 01:16:09.640 you can go here, you can go here. So it's kind 01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:13.199 of that let's get the integration working with 01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:16.369 Workday. And then the other things will just 01:16:16.369 --> 01:16:19.510 naturally flow. Yeah, I'm kind of trying to hold 01:16:19.510 --> 01:16:22.510 off on mandating two -factor authentication until 01:16:22.510 --> 01:16:28.090 I can make a single sign -on work. Because I'm 01:16:28.090 --> 01:16:31.390 going to get a lot of pushback. Sure. But if 01:16:31.390 --> 01:16:37.409 I can temper that pushback with, but you only 01:16:37.409 --> 01:16:41.289 have to remember one. Yes, yes. But as somebody 01:16:41.289 --> 01:16:44.270 who got bit. Yeah. From not having two -factor, 01:16:44.409 --> 01:16:47.029 I would encourage you to go two -factor as soon 01:16:47.029 --> 01:16:48.609 as possible. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. 01:16:49.109 --> 01:16:51.930 Because we got bit pretty hard on that one. Yes, 01:16:51.930 --> 01:16:53.510 you did. Could have been worse than it turned 01:16:53.510 --> 01:16:56.970 out to be, but we got bit. But still hard. Yes. 01:16:57.409 --> 01:17:02.149 And you're okay until you get bit. Yeah. And 01:17:02.149 --> 01:17:04.430 then you're like, okay, we don't have an option 01:17:04.430 --> 01:17:09.430 anymore. Here we go. Right. No, I get that. It's 01:17:09.430 --> 01:17:11.350 so funny to me when people don't understand everything 01:17:11.350 --> 01:17:18.859 that's being... Held digitally. What? Nothing. 01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:30.260 Ah, yes. I think I'm talking more than you. I 01:17:30.260 --> 01:17:34.920 don't think so. Fine. You just drink faster than 01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:38.439 I do. Again, you're full of carbonation. It's 01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:42.260 true. I'm not. I'm so full of carbonation. Don't 01:17:42.260 --> 01:17:45.439 burp into the microphone. Anyway, yeah, I have 01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:51.199 Jamf and JumpCloud stuff open right now. Yeah. 01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:54.800 I mean, Jamf is obviously great for managing 01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:58.760 Macs, which is what you have. Yeah. I think they 01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:02.300 offer their own single sign -on. Yeah. And I 01:18:02.300 --> 01:18:08.109 think they even have their own identity. Or they 01:18:08.109 --> 01:18:11.350 were working on it at one point. Okay, so single 01:18:11.350 --> 01:18:14.270 login, Jamf mobile assist, and return to service 01:18:14.270 --> 01:18:18.670 app. Healthcare listener. I don't need that. 01:18:20.909 --> 01:18:23.590 Automate bedside device management based on a 01:18:23.590 --> 01:18:26.189 patient's journey in electronic. Ooh, that sounds 01:18:26.189 --> 01:18:30.449 scary. Yeah, I don't know. Y 'all are talking 01:18:30.449 --> 01:18:34.829 to a lot of hospitals, I'm guessing. That was 01:18:34.829 --> 01:18:37.439 just Jamf for mobile. I thought. I really thought 01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:40.500 they had their version of identity. Small and 01:18:40.500 --> 01:18:43.439 medium -sized businesses. I actually don't think 01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:45.300 that we classify as that because of the number 01:18:45.300 --> 01:18:49.539 of. So they have. No, we do. Yeah, it's called 01:18:49.539 --> 01:18:52.840 Jamf Connect. That's their identity. Yes. Piece, 01:18:53.000 --> 01:19:00.720 yes. Yep. And they even have their Jamf Executive 01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:10.649 Threat Protection. Sounds fancy. Anyway, it's 01:19:10.649 --> 01:19:14.430 just a lot of trying to figure out. Yeah. There 01:19:14.430 --> 01:19:16.710 are a lot of options to consider and it all comes 01:19:16.710 --> 01:19:23.869 down to what's best for the organization. I think 01:19:23.869 --> 01:19:27.789 Okta is still the big player in identity. You 01:19:27.789 --> 01:19:31.590 got to have some deep pockets because you've 01:19:31.590 --> 01:19:36.250 still got to bring MDM to the table. And that's 01:19:36.250 --> 01:19:40.050 what ultimately drove us to. Jump Cloud was the 01:19:40.050 --> 01:19:42.369 significant savings when you didn't also have 01:19:42.369 --> 01:19:47.409 to bring an MDM solution to it. The caveat there, 01:19:47.510 --> 01:19:51.029 the trade -off, is because Jump Cloud is trying 01:19:51.029 --> 01:19:53.949 to be all things, they're not as feature -rich 01:19:53.949 --> 01:19:58.529 as somebody who focuses on a single thing. Yeah. 01:19:59.109 --> 01:20:02.909 They're closing the gap, but there is still a 01:20:02.909 --> 01:20:06.170 difference in terms of the features that they 01:20:06.170 --> 01:20:12.170 offer. But I would say that JumpCloud probably 01:20:12.170 --> 01:20:16.390 offers more than what most organizations need. 01:20:17.750 --> 01:20:21.569 But I could see as you get large enough, you're 01:20:21.569 --> 01:20:23.149 going to realize that they're missing some of 01:20:23.149 --> 01:20:27.210 the pieces that you need. And then you would 01:20:27.210 --> 01:20:32.029 look at an octa, maybe a ping, and then you're 01:20:32.029 --> 01:20:36.569 bringing in something like MobileIron or Jamf 01:20:36.569 --> 01:20:45.369 or... Oh, what's the Microsoft product? I should 01:20:45.369 --> 01:20:47.789 know this. Yes, you should. I shouldn't know 01:20:47.789 --> 01:20:51.250 this. I'm drawing a total blank on Microsoft 01:20:51.250 --> 01:20:56.710 MDM. Intune, there you go, Intune. Yeah, they 01:20:56.710 --> 01:21:00.090 just made that up. Well, it's their flavor of 01:21:00.090 --> 01:21:01.869 the moment, and then in a couple of years, they'll 01:21:01.869 --> 01:21:05.229 change it and it'll be something different. That's 01:21:05.229 --> 01:21:08.050 what Microsoft is good at. Google, on the other 01:21:08.050 --> 01:21:13.489 hand, is good at killing stuff. That was pointed. 01:21:13.850 --> 01:21:18.029 Yeah. They have a proven track record. They do, 01:21:18.130 --> 01:21:19.590 of killing things. They bring something out. 01:21:19.670 --> 01:21:22.270 People love it. They decide, ah, this isn't working 01:21:22.270 --> 01:21:25.029 for us, and they just kill it. I'm done with 01:21:25.029 --> 01:21:34.050 you. So. Well, there you go. I think that's what 01:21:34.050 --> 01:21:35.710 we've got for tonight, folks. Yeah, I've got 01:21:35.710 --> 01:21:41.010 to get home. Yeah. Wow. It's almost 940. Good 01:21:41.010 --> 01:21:44.449 job. That's a pretty good show for no real content. 01:21:44.729 --> 01:21:47.710 120 minutes. Holy cow. It's because we found 01:21:47.710 --> 01:21:50.970 content there at the end. Yeah, we did. All right. 01:21:51.210 --> 01:21:53.409 All right. Thanks for hanging out. Enjoyed it, 01:21:53.470 --> 01:21:56.029 man. And thanks for bringing the beer as always. 01:21:56.109 --> 01:21:59.430 Not a problem. Not a problem. Appreciate you, 01:21:59.430 --> 01:22:01.210 brother. Yeah. Enjoyed it, man. See you, everybody. 01:22:01.470 --> 01:22:25.189 See you. Wow, that was something, right? That's 01:22:25.189 --> 01:22:27.710 what I call a great podcast. These two guys are 01:22:27.710 --> 01:22:28.289 not bozos.