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Hey Chris, how you doing? Good, how you doing

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John? I'm doing alright. We are, oh my goodness,

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it's Wednesday, so Thursday, Friday, Thursday,

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Friday, Saturday. We're three days away from

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the first Easter service for this year. Yes.

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We do three at our church. We do one on Saturday

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night and then two on Sunday morning. Yep. Anyway,

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it's... You know, we're just in the middle of

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it. Yes. Every project that you had that was

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like, yeah, just whenever is now like get it

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done before Easter. Pretty much. Also, speaking

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of, well, let's start with, hey, what are we

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drinking? We have a new one tonight from True

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Vine. Okay. Sanctimonium. This is a. Belgian

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triple, I believe. We haven't, so you say new

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one. You and I have both had this. Yes, but new

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for the show. New for the show. New for the show,

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new for the listeners to hear about. Delicious.

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It is good. It's 10%. Pretty confident it was

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a triple. Yeah, and it's in a growler. It is,

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yes. Feeling pretty good about our 64 ounces

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here. Let's see. Good to know. I think our mugs

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here probably hold 44. Okay, I stand corrected.

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This is a Belgian quad. Oh, it's a quad, not

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a triple. Not a triple or triple is the way it's

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spelled. No, I'm not saying that. So yeah, it

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is a triple. It's a quad. Sorry, quad. I'm looking

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at too many things on the screen at one time.

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Yeah. So let's crack this bad boy open. Yeah.

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Way to go, True Vine. Oh. Wow. Oh. You need me

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to undo it for you? What just happened? It didn't

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open because there's tape. There's tape on it?

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Well, so it's not. Oh, okay. Yeah, you can't.

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Yeah, you're not supposed to. Okay, where's the.

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You're supposed to take it home. Yes. If you

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had opened that with the tape on it. Just saying.

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I'm He -Man. Come on, tape. I see it. You're

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working on it. It's almost there. Getting there.

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You're doing great. Okay. That's some really

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skinny tape. That's weird. Yeah, it is. Okay,

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now I think legally this would qualify as an

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open container because the tape is gone. Which

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is frustrating because, you know, in Louisiana,

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all it takes is the straw being... Not having

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the paper on top? The paper on the straw counts.

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All right, let's try again. That would be much

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easier. Yeah, so there's kind of a double standard

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there. I'm just saying. Would you like the first

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pour? Oh, sure. I am honored. It's a good glug.

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Oh, man. That's not even. I'm looking at the

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level in the. In the growler there, and it didn't

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really make a dent. I'm telling you, it just

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smells so good. Please go over the top. No, no,

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no, no. I got it. You did great. Yeah. Yeah.

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So this is the quad in case, or a quad in case.

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This quad, I'll put it that way. I don't really

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know that much about quads, but this is a very

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brown ale. Yes. So expecting the nuttiness. What

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does it say? There's no blur. There's no blurb?

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There's no blurb on their site for any of their

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beer. Okay, no, we've got to figure that out

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because they do have blurbs. I mean, I'm sure

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I can find it on their site real quick. No, I

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don't think you can. I think we looked last time,

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didn't we? Didn't we? Well, we're going to find

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out. Okay. Also helps if you can spell. Untapped.

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Okay. Yeah, no blurb, but it does say in a faraway

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land. Oh, no. Our brewing forefathers created

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an ale so bold with such strength. Oh, I've got

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to click the show more. With such strength that

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we eat. With such strength that it was banished

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from the land, never to return. We have brought

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this legendary beer back to life with a heavy,

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malty base and tasting notes of fig, cherry,

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and a touch of warmth. The Belgian quad you hold,

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well, Now I'm holding it. It's for those who

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seek something bigger in both their beverage

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and in life. Cheers. Well, there you go. Well,

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there you go. Thank you, Untapped. That's just

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weird. Yeah, I don't think that I tasted the

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cherry last time, but let's see. Ready? Yep.

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Cheers. Here we go. Cheers. No, I do taste the

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cherry. A little bit. Yeah. I mean, now that

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I'm saying it. Or now that they said it, I taste

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it for sure. Kind of on the sides of the tongue.

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Yeah, it's a little more tart than I remember

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it being. A little bit. Maybe that's just because

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of the cherry thing. I had this probably, I don't

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know, two or three months ago. And it felt like

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it was a different tasting beer then versus now.

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I've had that a few times. But I think that's

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kind of the nature of these. Small batch. Yes.

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Artisanal small batch. Artisanal small batch.

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It's not bad, though. No, it's great. Not bad.

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So the tag says 41625. That's when they poured

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it into this growler. That's what that means.

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Okay. Yes. Because I think, I mean, yeah. Don't

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know when it was put in the keg to be ready for

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drinking. But. I do know they're running low.

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Not too long ago. Really? Yeah. Running low on

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sanctimonium and they're running low on giant

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slayer. Oh no. Giant slayer is really good. Oh

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no. Um, we're going to take this podcast and

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relocate for a little bit. Oh no. That would

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be interesting. That would be so good. We should

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do. Figure out a way to do a show there. Well,

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it would have to be one of the live shows. So

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we need to figure out live and then we go. Yes.

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And do it. And then we can, it'll be a all beer

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show. Oh. Cause you got to taste the different

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varieties. No, absolutely. We work them in. It's

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a marketing gimmick for them. Yeah. It's a good

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show for us. Yeah. Welcome to the brainstorm,

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people. Yeah. This is great. Now there's just

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a lot of pieces to figure out. Yeah, no big deal.

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I wish it was just as simple as clicking go live.

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Wouldn't that be nice? Well, it could be done,

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but it's up to your hosting company to pull that

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off. And we're not there yet. Not quite. Okay.

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So what I was saying, well, no, let's talk about

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the beer a little more because I don't think

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we gave it its full. What else? It said cherry.

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There was something else other than warmth because,

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yeah, obviously the warmth, but that has more

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to do with, you know, where it hits you in the

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gut. Okay. And the fact that I haven't had dinner

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yet. Oh, true. I'm there with you. Malty base

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and tasting notes of fig, cherry. And a touch

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of warmth. So fig, I don't really know what fig

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tastes like. I've had Fig Newton. I don't think

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it's the same thing. Okay. Yeah. So a sugary

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fig. That's as close as it gets. Maybe that's

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what they were talking about. You're the one

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who's been to Israel. You didn't try a fig? No.

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Oh, come on, man. I didn't eat olives either.

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Oh, how could you go and not have olives? Well,

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mostly I ate deviled eggs, hummus, and fish.

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Yeah. There was some chicken. I remember every

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time that I've gone to Israel, what I like crave

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the most. I mean, bacon, obviously, but is like

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a cheeseburger because they don't do cheese on

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anything. Correct. Because that would be a lot.

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That's not kosher. So. No cheese on the burger.

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They will make you a burger. It's not bad. I

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mean, it's not great, but it's not bad. But you

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can't put cheese on it. Can I get cheese on the

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side? You definitely can't get a bacon cheeseburger.

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No. You keep referencing bacon and Israel, and

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you were making me think of Trump the other day.

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He was announcing Huckabee as his new ambassador

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to Israel, and he was just... off the cuff, just

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trying to be silly. Like he's really going to

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bring home the bacon for us. And then there's

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this pause and he goes, although I guess bacon's

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not really their thing in Israel. Wow. Okay.

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So. Wow. Just wow. Anyway. You know, I like this.

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Yeah. No, it's great. I mean, it's not, it's

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not bitter. No, it is a little tart, a little

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tart. So this is, Like when my wife gets all

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excited about a summer shandy. Okay. I'm like,

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no, it's a little too, I don't, I don't like

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lemonade in my beer. Thank you very much. True.

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But this, this kind of reminds me of that. Like

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this would be a great hangout, you know, maybe

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after mowing the yard, get it really cold. It's

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not, it's not super cold right now. Well, maybe

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that's why we can taste the cherry so well. If

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we have any leftover, I'll be mowing on Saturday.

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I'll let you know how it is after mowing. There

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you go. I feel like it would be a great post

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-mow beer. All right. Okay, so what I was saying

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is that we also have, we do something called

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an Easter bash. We call it an Easter bash. Most

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people call it an egg hunt. Eggstravaganza. Eggstravaganza.

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So we do that on the Saturday before Palm Sunday.

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So it's not even during the Holy Week. It's just

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the Saturday before. So partially that's because

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we're just trying to get out of everybody else's

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way. There's so many other. Tyler has a lot of

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churches with a lot of extra programming from

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those churches during Easter. So it's just a

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good idea for everybody to. let everybody go

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to everything and not try to compete with different

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stuff but all of that to say that i was running

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the sound system for our eastern um bash and

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i had to get on and give a few announcements

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and i had a few people tell me that my radio

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voice was funny And I was like, I don't know

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what you're talking about. I don't have a radio

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voice. I don't have a, I don't have a, I have

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a face for radio. I don't have a voice for radio.

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Yes. But what they meant was that I talk different

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when I'm on the microphone. And I was like, I

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wonder if that was the case whenever I was like,

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I wonder if it's the case right now. I don't,

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I don't think I talk different when we're just

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podcasting. Cause I feel like I'm just a conversation

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very much. Just talking to you. Yeah. Um, but

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evidently when I'm on a microphone on a loud

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speaker, so this made me think like when I was

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back, when I was a worship leader, did I do it

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like this? Did I have a different voice from

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when I led worship? Um, but especially if I'm

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doing announcements, I talk very differently.

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And I was like, I cannot get anybody to explain

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that to me. But well, when you were leading worship,

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I think it, I think it is just a part of it is,

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you know, a little more amped up. You know, just

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because you're like, hey, everybody, glad you're

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here. Yeah. You know, that piece definitely came

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out. Smile. Yes. But I didn't see it as like,

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oh, that's not John. What's he doing? Yeah. And

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maybe that's the case here, too, is there's a

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lot of people, since I'm not leading worship

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anymore, see me in my frowny face more often.

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Yes. One of my kids call it the Eeyore. Yes.

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You're just, you're just leaning into your realism.

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That's all. Just leaning into the realism. Not,

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not as much with the eyebrows up. Yeah. But yeah,

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it was, it was funny to me because I was like,

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Oh, I, I mean, I've been doing this job for a

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little bit, which is, I've done parts of that

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for a long time and nobody's ever mentioned that

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before, but I think we have more people now that

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don't. That weren't here whenever I led worship.

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So they didn't hear me talk. More often. From

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stage. So. But it is interesting to know about

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yourself. That you have a different voice. That

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you don't really realize that you're using. Didn't

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happen to record it. Did you? No. I mean. Clip

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for the show. Wouldn't have been good. That's

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all I'm saying. There were definitely a lot of

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times. I was in the middle of talking. About

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you know. what we were doing for Easter egg hunts

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or how you needed to try to limit your children

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to seven. I was like, are you kidding me? You

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want me to make what announcement? Children only

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pick up seven Easter eggs. Got it. Like don't

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nobody pay attention to me for the next 30 seconds.

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I'm going to say something that I'm required

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to say. Yes. It was funny. I told another one

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of our staff who will remain nameless about that.

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Like that. had been asked to make that announcement,

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and he goes, I think they have participation

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trophies at the church across the street. I was

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like, that's right. Yes. Here at South Spring,

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if you don't get your rear end out there and

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get some eggs, that's your own fault. That's

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on you. Anyway, it was really funny. So did they

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at least tell you this afterwards? So you're

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not sitting there in the middle of this and going,

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what am I doing with my voice? No, it was in

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the middle. Oh. No, I mean, that's, they're going

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to tell me when they. At least tell you after.

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Yeah. One of them, like, so I'm in the middle

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of the sound system and we're pushing across

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acres. So like it's, it's loud. And when you're

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right behind the speakers, it's really loud.

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So I've got them in pointed in three different

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directions. I'm trying to cover as much ground

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as possible. And so when people come and talk

00:16:15.850 --> 00:16:18.889
to me, they are literally, you know, getting

00:16:18.889 --> 00:16:21.289
right next to my ear and then screaming. Screaming.

00:16:21.370 --> 00:16:24.990
Yes. But one of them told me like that, which

00:16:24.990 --> 00:16:29.250
I thought was hilarious. Like you were, you were

00:16:29.250 --> 00:16:32.070
screaming this at me. I mean, it's fine. Cause

00:16:32.070 --> 00:16:34.389
it's the only way we're going to be heard. But

00:16:34.389 --> 00:16:39.909
anyway, what's your radio voice? That's funny.

00:16:40.529 --> 00:16:44.570
Watch your screaming voice. Ask my children.

00:16:44.750 --> 00:16:49.639
Right. That's funny. But, you know, it definitely

00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:51.279
reminded me of what we're talking about today

00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:57.559
with doing podcasts and stuff. You know, a lot

00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:02.840
of what's been interesting about trying to set

00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:06.519
up podcasts and get ready to go with podcasts

00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:11.940
is being aware of how it sounds. Yep. The fact

00:17:11.940 --> 00:17:15.980
that it just clipped off the front of how. For

00:17:15.980 --> 00:17:18.839
me there, because I was not leaning into the,

00:17:18.900 --> 00:17:22.819
how not giving it enough decibels to cut off

00:17:22.819 --> 00:17:28.859
the, or to start the gate gate. Um, but different

00:17:28.859 --> 00:17:30.900
things like that. And then realizing like you,

00:17:30.940 --> 00:17:33.740
you talk a certain way and you need to make sure

00:17:33.740 --> 00:17:38.160
not talk too fast and you need to make sure that

00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.200
there's not too much dead space and enunciate

00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.950
and all of the, like there's, to the artwork

00:17:45.950 --> 00:17:49.789
and the you know us trying to even get social

00:17:49.789 --> 00:17:52.769
media stuff worked out like there's there's a

00:17:52.769 --> 00:17:55.609
lot of things to to pay attention to yeah other

00:17:55.609 --> 00:17:58.450
than the thing that we wanted to do which was

00:17:58.450 --> 00:18:03.410
sit down and drink a beer and talk about gear

00:18:03.410 --> 00:18:07.369
that's coming out or is exciting or is um that

00:18:07.369 --> 00:18:09.630
we're thinking about using for one project or

00:18:09.630 --> 00:18:15.059
another yep anyway That's what it reminded me

00:18:15.059 --> 00:18:18.880
of. Yeah. Tonight's kind of the meta show. Meta

00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.859
show. We're doing a podcast about doing a podcast.

00:18:22.180 --> 00:18:26.519
About doing a podcast. That could be a show title.

00:18:28.220 --> 00:18:31.359
The meta podcast or the. The meta show. Meta

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show. Meta world peace. Oh, man. I saw an interview.

00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:38.920
Never mind. We're not doing that right now. That

00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:43.329
guy. Although I do think he got a bad rap for

00:18:43.329 --> 00:18:47.049
a few different things that happened in his career.

00:18:47.910 --> 00:18:49.930
Somebody throws a beer at you, you are going

00:18:49.930 --> 00:18:52.529
to, like, if I throw a beer at somebody, I'm

00:18:52.529 --> 00:18:55.549
starting a fight. I'm either in a fight or I'm

00:18:55.549 --> 00:18:58.549
starting a fight. At no point would I ever throw

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a beer at somebody and then not expect that person

00:19:01.630 --> 00:19:06.750
to respond to me. So the idea that, I mean, he

00:19:06.750 --> 00:19:09.049
went into the stands and that's totally inappropriate.

00:19:09.309 --> 00:19:11.210
I'm like, not if somebody throws a beer at you.

00:19:11.369 --> 00:19:15.269
Yeah, that's a different level. You, I mean,

00:19:15.329 --> 00:19:22.690
don't be dumb. They may look small on TV, but

00:19:22.690 --> 00:19:25.609
all those NBA players are big boys. They're huge.

00:19:25.910 --> 00:19:30.369
Yeah. Anyway. Unless they're Muggsy Bogues. He

00:19:30.369 --> 00:19:36.220
was a. personal hero of mine as a short man yeah

00:19:36.220 --> 00:19:41.359
short kings as they call them now weird anyway

00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:46.400
um but yeah the meta meta show the show about

00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:49.740
the show yes and making a show and trying to

00:19:49.740 --> 00:19:55.180
walk the line of is this is this fun because

00:19:55.180 --> 00:20:00.839
we are doing what we want to do or are we I think

00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:03.099
as long as we're having fun. Yeah. Who cares

00:20:03.099 --> 00:20:05.420
how many downloads you get? That's true. I would

00:20:05.420 --> 00:20:07.420
love, we'll get into this a little later. I'd

00:20:07.420 --> 00:20:10.900
love to know what causes the ebb and flow. Yeah.

00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:13.500
One show would do great and the next show is

00:20:13.500 --> 00:20:17.839
just like crickets. Flat. And it's like, did

00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:20.539
you just not like us? Yeah. Are we just randomly

00:20:20.539 --> 00:20:22.740
showing up on somebody's front page and you get

00:20:22.740 --> 00:20:26.720
some extra downloads? Yeah. Or what? Did we upload

00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.440
it at the wrong time? Are we? I mean, there's

00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:32.500
all kinds of things. I mean, it was actually

00:20:32.500 --> 00:20:35.480
funny when you said that this is what we're going

00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:37.299
to talk about. One of the things that I thought

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about was there for a while. It was a really

00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:45.119
popular thing for YouTube personalities to make

00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:50.859
shows about how they like, you know, what the

00:20:50.859 --> 00:20:55.240
secret sauce is of being, you know, getting a

00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:59.509
million downloads or. whatever the thing is like

00:20:59.509 --> 00:21:01.970
it was it was funny to me because it was almost

00:21:01.970 --> 00:21:05.829
like they got an inside track from youtube about

00:21:05.829 --> 00:21:08.210
hey we we want you all to make videos about this

00:21:08.210 --> 00:21:10.670
for a little bit yeah and then everybody made

00:21:10.670 --> 00:21:16.670
one um and then they would all make videos about

00:21:16.670 --> 00:21:19.930
how you need to make sure and make uh videos

00:21:19.930 --> 00:21:24.109
for yourself and videos for everybody else like

00:21:24.109 --> 00:21:26.670
you know you make One for yourself. And then

00:21:26.670 --> 00:21:29.990
you would make one for the rest of the world,

00:21:30.029 --> 00:21:32.089
the rest of the world. And I was like, wow, that

00:21:32.089 --> 00:21:36.450
sounds terrible. Like I get it. If you really

00:21:36.450 --> 00:21:40.910
are like, this is your job, but that can't be

00:21:40.910 --> 00:21:45.089
why you get into this. No. And you talk about

00:21:45.089 --> 00:21:47.730
that. And Michelle just started watching. I'm

00:21:47.730 --> 00:21:49.289
not going to know the name of the documentary,

00:21:49.410 --> 00:21:53.049
but it's on Netflix about a kid named Piper.

00:21:53.919 --> 00:21:57.119
And everything that was happening with her mother's

00:21:57.119 --> 00:21:59.880
influence and what they were doing and crossing

00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:04.759
the line and kind of creating this YouTube media

00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:08.420
monster. Yeah. Yeah. Is this like the, I mean,

00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:10.380
you know, they, they did, they've done different

00:22:10.380 --> 00:22:14.099
documentaries about like Jojo Siwa and different

00:22:14.099 --> 00:22:17.079
stuff like that. But so this is a girl named

00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:19.099
Piper. Yeah. The girl, the young girl's name

00:22:19.099 --> 00:22:21.279
is Piper. And then they had a bunch of kids.

00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:25.480
I think the group was called the squad. Nice.

00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:27.640
I'm not going to know the name of the. Of course

00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:31.000
not. Of the show. Try not to watch that stuff.

00:22:31.339 --> 00:22:33.380
We like what we're doing here, but we're not

00:22:33.380 --> 00:22:37.259
trying to like consume it all the time. No. That's

00:22:37.259 --> 00:22:41.119
just a terrible place to be. Yes. That and all

00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:47.089
of the murder shows that she watches. Okay. Like

00:22:47.089 --> 00:22:49.410
the murder podcast, like the murder mystery podcast.

00:22:49.789 --> 00:22:51.869
Not podcast. I know I'm talking about like the,

00:22:51.890 --> 00:22:59.170
and then the TV stuff. I told Lori, like, we

00:22:59.170 --> 00:23:01.730
just, we've got too much going on in our lives.

00:23:01.750 --> 00:23:04.230
We don't need to borrow somebody else's bad emotions.

00:23:05.309 --> 00:23:09.549
Don't get traumatic. Yes. Well, I joke that Michelle

00:23:09.549 --> 00:23:13.630
is actually studying. But when she's ready to

00:23:13.630 --> 00:23:16.049
off me, she'll know all the ways to do it right.

00:23:16.109 --> 00:23:19.369
And I get caught. Did you ever did you ever hear

00:23:19.369 --> 00:23:23.549
that Jim Gaffigan bit about how he watches Dateline?

00:23:24.150 --> 00:23:28.349
And he's talking about how he's super romantic.

00:23:28.930 --> 00:23:31.750
But, you know, his wife doesn't his wife doesn't

00:23:31.750 --> 00:23:35.269
mind. Like she she's fine that he's watching

00:23:35.269 --> 00:23:37.269
Dateline. I mean, she's not thrilled that he's

00:23:37.269 --> 00:23:40.869
watching it on their anniversary and taking notes.

00:23:43.150 --> 00:23:46.490
Yikes. I mean, this guy's just sloppy. It's like

00:23:46.490 --> 00:23:50.609
he wants to get caught. Anyway, it was hilarious.

00:23:51.089 --> 00:23:54.349
Oh. Now I understand why I can't find that picture

00:23:54.349 --> 00:24:00.670
you sent me. Really? H -E -I -C. Oh. My computer

00:24:00.670 --> 00:24:03.869
doesn't like it. Yeah, no, it's, that's, yeah,

00:24:04.009 --> 00:24:08.980
sorry. Non -Apple guy. You iPhone people. I didn't

00:24:08.980 --> 00:24:11.339
mean to. A bunch of elitists. I didn't mean to.

00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.880
I'm sorry. You got to do it our way. Yeah, I

00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:18.240
didn't mean to. Thanks, Steve. You've been gone

00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.079
for how many years and it's still there, man.

00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:25.980
Oh, no, for sure. They're pretty excited about

00:24:25.980 --> 00:24:30.880
that. Oh, yeah. Not being. Hey, even better.

00:24:31.460 --> 00:24:33.740
Instagram says, even though I got it to work

00:24:33.740 --> 00:24:37.370
now. Yeah. Hey, we don't support that file. Cool.

00:24:37.370 --> 00:24:40.869
So I'll post it later. I mean, I can probably,

00:24:40.970 --> 00:24:43.190
it's fine. I was just trying to get something

00:24:43.190 --> 00:24:44.190
out there while the show was going. No, I like

00:24:44.190 --> 00:24:45.670
it. It's perfect. That's what we're supposed

00:24:45.670 --> 00:24:48.369
to be doing, right? Yep. Probably should actually

00:24:48.369 --> 00:24:52.109
do it pre -show as an alert to people to know.

00:24:52.849 --> 00:24:55.569
This is happening. Show's starting. Well. Start

00:24:55.569 --> 00:24:58.130
setting the expectations for people when we go

00:24:58.130 --> 00:25:00.809
live. There you go. They know, like, this is

00:25:00.809 --> 00:25:02.490
about when it's going to happen. Are they going

00:25:02.490 --> 00:25:04.750
live right now? Are they going live right now?

00:25:05.470 --> 00:25:08.380
Now? Get your 2 .0 app and you'll know. Now,

00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:12.059
now, now, now, now, now. Oh, no, we just missed

00:25:12.059 --> 00:25:16.140
it. That was just, now was just then. No, now

00:25:16.140 --> 00:25:23.119
was. I need to watch Spaceballs again. It's a

00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:25.880
classic. It is a classic. I don't think my kids

00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:30.059
are quite ready for it, but it's getting close.

00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:35.380
Yeah, that one is more tame. It is. Than some

00:25:35.380 --> 00:25:39.200
of the others. Yeah. Mel Brooks in that one is

00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:42.960
a little older. He's mellowing a bit, yeah. Yeah.

00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:48.019
But still. Yes. I see your shorts is as big as

00:25:48.019 --> 00:25:51.700
mine. No, it's bigger. Your shorts is bigger

00:25:51.700 --> 00:25:58.640
than mine. I thought it was. Anyway. All right.

00:25:58.660 --> 00:26:05.029
Now we got to look at it. Anyway. So like the,

00:26:05.130 --> 00:26:11.490
did you have like a, a plan for what all we were

00:26:11.490 --> 00:26:13.049
going to talk about? Or are we just, are we just

00:26:13.049 --> 00:26:15.309
bringing stuff up? I think just mostly off the

00:26:15.309 --> 00:26:19.089
cuff, but you know, wanting to hit like what

00:26:19.089 --> 00:26:21.369
it, what it has been trying to get the show going,

00:26:21.430 --> 00:26:25.430
what it's the challenges of maintaining. Yeah.

00:26:25.670 --> 00:26:27.990
Cause you know, life doesn't stop just because

00:26:27.990 --> 00:26:30.450
you're wanting to do a podcast. No. You know,

00:26:30.450 --> 00:26:35.170
trying to be consistent. At least on release.

00:26:35.450 --> 00:26:38.609
Yeah. Because I think that's important. People

00:26:38.609 --> 00:26:41.130
get used to that schedule. Yeah. And when you

00:26:41.130 --> 00:26:43.589
veer off the schedule, it might get a little

00:26:43.589 --> 00:26:46.750
cranky. Yeah. Right now, everybody kind of knows

00:26:46.750 --> 00:26:49.490
that every other Tuesday. That's when this comes

00:26:49.490 --> 00:26:52.269
out. You're getting a show unless life gets too

00:26:52.269 --> 00:26:54.930
crazy. Yeah. So it's about, you know, maintaining

00:26:54.930 --> 00:26:58.289
that schedule. And then just kind of, we're trying

00:26:58.289 --> 00:27:01.470
to figure out this whole, how do you get. yourself

00:27:01.470 --> 00:27:04.609
out there more exposure. Like we talked about

00:27:04.609 --> 00:27:06.930
before, kind of that ebb and flow. Why does one

00:27:06.930 --> 00:27:10.210
show explode? And the very next show is in, is

00:27:10.210 --> 00:27:13.230
in the tank. Like what just happened? Yeah. And

00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:16.450
just kind of the, you know, just in everything

00:27:16.450 --> 00:27:17.930
that we can kind of come up with in between,

00:27:18.049 --> 00:27:20.390
but just really just kind of talking about, you

00:27:20.390 --> 00:27:22.890
know, you don't get into podcasting, get rich.

00:27:22.950 --> 00:27:24.589
You don't get into podcasting to make money.

00:27:24.910 --> 00:27:28.170
You do it for fun. Yeah. And then if the money

00:27:28.170 --> 00:27:33.000
comes later, that's just a, A bonus. Yeah. So,

00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:38.640
I mean, starting at the beginning. Yep. What

00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:43.240
is the thing that like you want to talk about,

00:27:43.299 --> 00:27:46.920
you know, or what is the, like, what's the idea?

00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.619
Is there information that you want to like put

00:27:49.619 --> 00:27:53.460
out there? Is there. Yeah. I mean, I guess there's

00:27:53.460 --> 00:27:55.940
a little bit, you know, kind of pulling the curtain

00:27:55.940 --> 00:27:58.579
back a little bit, you know, it's like when I

00:27:58.579 --> 00:28:01.279
listened to a podcast. Yeah. I'm just kind of

00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:04.059
sitting there kind of going, well, I wonder how

00:28:04.059 --> 00:28:06.079
they do it. What is their setup? How do they

00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:08.880
configure this? How did they do that? Why does

00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.140
they not have this particular artifact in their

00:28:12.140 --> 00:28:15.880
audio that I have? Yeah. You know, we've been

00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:17.880
talking about doing this for quite a long time.

00:28:17.980 --> 00:28:20.680
Yeah. It was me just kind of like, yeah, we'll

00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:21.880
get there. We'll get there. We'll get there.

00:28:21.900 --> 00:28:24.539
And then finally we came up with one. It was

00:28:24.539 --> 00:28:27.480
like, oh, that's it. We got to go. Yeah. And

00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:31.329
so it's just been trying to, because, I mean,

00:28:31.349 --> 00:28:33.430
you've obviously done a few with the church,

00:28:33.609 --> 00:28:36.250
and now we've got this one. So for me, this has

00:28:36.250 --> 00:28:39.990
been kind of a multifaceted journey of what does

00:28:39.990 --> 00:28:43.349
it look like to do a podcast? And you try to

00:28:43.349 --> 00:28:48.210
do one well. I'm not an audio engineer, so you're

00:28:48.210 --> 00:28:51.869
not going to get the best sound ever, but it's

00:28:51.869 --> 00:28:55.829
going to be good enough to want to listen. Yeah.

00:28:56.350 --> 00:28:58.589
And it not be, cause to me, I realized that if

00:28:58.589 --> 00:29:00.710
you can't get the audio right, it didn't matter

00:29:00.710 --> 00:29:03.009
what your content is. Yeah. And that's, I mean,

00:29:03.029 --> 00:29:06.410
that's the case for audio content as well as

00:29:06.410 --> 00:29:09.869
video. It's amazing what you can live through

00:29:09.869 --> 00:29:12.329
watching, but you can't live through listening

00:29:12.329 --> 00:29:16.309
to. That's really annoying. If the audio is grating,

00:29:16.349 --> 00:29:17.869
you're just going to skip it or turn it off.

00:29:19.569 --> 00:29:23.430
Exactly. So, you know, for me, it's, it's been

00:29:23.430 --> 00:29:26.769
a learning curve on how to do. The audio, because

00:29:26.769 --> 00:29:29.990
we do a lot of post -production, if you will.

00:29:30.069 --> 00:29:33.990
Yeah. We're not to the point to where it's record

00:29:33.990 --> 00:29:37.109
live to tape, and then you literally just put

00:29:37.109 --> 00:29:40.509
an intro and outro on the end and maybe a little

00:29:40.509 --> 00:29:45.150
kicker, and off it goes, and it's ready. We record

00:29:45.150 --> 00:29:48.150
typically on a Tuesday or a Wednesday, and then

00:29:48.150 --> 00:29:51.710
I'm at home with Reaper going, okay, what if

00:29:51.710 --> 00:29:54.009
I do this? Oh, I didn't like that. Okay. What

00:29:54.009 --> 00:29:55.789
if I do this? I don't like that. Oh, that's okay.

00:29:55.990 --> 00:29:57.990
But okay. So what if I give it a little bit more

00:29:57.990 --> 00:29:59.470
and it's like, oh, that just got really bad,

00:29:59.509 --> 00:30:01.650
really fast. What happened? Don't do that. Um,

00:30:01.750 --> 00:30:04.529
so yeah, for me, it's really been a, you know,

00:30:04.529 --> 00:30:07.490
it's about learning how to do it. Um, becoming

00:30:07.490 --> 00:30:09.990
comfortable with doing this in the beginning

00:30:09.990 --> 00:30:13.589
for me, I was nervous as all get out. There was

00:30:13.589 --> 00:30:15.269
nobody else in the room. It's just you and me.

00:30:15.849 --> 00:30:19.029
And that was nervous. But just the idea of people

00:30:19.029 --> 00:30:21.079
are going to download this. They're going to

00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:24.880
listen to this. And it's like, Oh my gosh. It's

00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:26.980
not like being in front of people kind of nervous,

00:30:26.980 --> 00:30:30.859
but it's still that nervous of like, Oh yeah,

00:30:31.380 --> 00:30:33.599
this isn't just you and me talking and nobody

00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:35.720
hears this ever. And it just goes off into the

00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:38.619
ether and that's it. Right. So there was kind

00:30:38.619 --> 00:30:40.819
of working through that and trying to feel comfortable.

00:30:40.980 --> 00:30:45.099
And as I've heard people say, finding your podcast

00:30:45.099 --> 00:30:47.799
voice, which I guess is like having your radio

00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:52.980
voice. Yeah, exactly. W N B C trying to find

00:30:52.980 --> 00:30:56.940
that type of thing. Um, but, but learning, uh,

00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:58.759
you know, learning from you and some of the audio

00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:02.500
hitting up Jason for some of the audio. Uh, he's

00:31:02.500 --> 00:31:06.380
still after me on my, on my tone talking about,

00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:10.299
I just need to EQ your mic and it's, well, tell

00:31:10.299 --> 00:31:14.579
me, help me. I understand you want to EQ my mic.

00:31:14.660 --> 00:31:17.359
Why don't you tell me how I can EQ my mic? Correct.

00:31:17.500 --> 00:31:20.680
Correct. And then we also have the added challenge

00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:24.579
of sometimes we're here and we don't want to

00:31:24.579 --> 00:31:28.279
mess with this because it's not our setup. Whereas

00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:30.500
if we're at home, we can do whatever in the world

00:31:30.500 --> 00:31:33.079
we want. We can tweak it, fine tune it. And then

00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.799
once you find what you want, that's great. But

00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.680
you can't necessarily take that with you to another

00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.700
place unless. everything is going to be roadcaster

00:31:42.700 --> 00:31:45.740
based and then you grab the show file and you

00:31:45.740 --> 00:31:47.619
bring your show file and you load it. Right.

00:31:47.700 --> 00:31:50.380
And then when you're done, you put back the other

00:31:50.380 --> 00:31:55.480
shows file. Yeah. Or all of your gear is so portable

00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:58.819
and so a lot like the pod mic. Yeah. And that,

00:31:58.819 --> 00:32:00.519
and that could be, it could be that maybe when

00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:03.359
we come here, it's just lay out the pod mic and

00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:06.059
show up with a pod mic, plug it in. Here's yours.

00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:10.319
EQ. Here's my EQ. Go. it's pumping right into

00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:15.339
the computer, recording it into audacity or whatever

00:32:15.339 --> 00:32:17.640
it may be. Yeah. It was interesting to me to

00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:19.420
hear you talk about the, even the beginning of

00:32:19.420 --> 00:32:22.380
this because you know, my, my mindset is always

00:32:22.380 --> 00:32:24.460
in the like, well, what are, what are we trying

00:32:24.460 --> 00:32:27.799
to, what are we trying to accomplish here? And

00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.380
what was really fun about this one was I am trying

00:32:30.380 --> 00:32:32.339
to accomplish talking to my friend about stuff

00:32:32.339 --> 00:32:35.259
that interests me and drinking beer. And that's

00:32:35.259 --> 00:32:39.559
perfect. Cause that makes it easy. but you and

00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.680
I are both also like we're, we're problem solvers

00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:50.059
by trade and by personality probably more so.

00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:55.019
Yeah. So like even the idea of approaching a

00:32:55.019 --> 00:32:58.619
podcast as like, Oh, how listening to another

00:32:58.619 --> 00:33:00.299
podcast and being like, how are they doing that?

00:33:00.420 --> 00:33:02.980
Like what, what, what exactly is involved with

00:33:02.980 --> 00:33:08.690
that? And less like, man, want to be famous like

00:33:08.690 --> 00:33:11.190
no I don't want to be famous I'm not trying to

00:33:11.190 --> 00:33:13.730
be famous I'm trying like I didn't I want to

00:33:13.730 --> 00:33:15.990
know what that what is that what are they what

00:33:15.990 --> 00:33:19.289
what does it take to do that and so then you

00:33:19.289 --> 00:33:21.950
know then you look at the gear because gear is

00:33:21.950 --> 00:33:25.269
sexy I don't care what Stephen Myers says yeah

00:33:25.269 --> 00:33:29.470
gear is sexy oh yeah it's so cool like oh my

00:33:29.470 --> 00:33:32.970
goodness it leads to gas it does get your acquisition

00:33:32.970 --> 00:33:37.019
syndrome yeah every time I, you know, I knew

00:33:37.019 --> 00:33:39.720
gas first as guitar acquisition syndrome, but

00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:43.799
yes, it works. I knew it personally as gear acquisition

00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:47.319
syndrome because I just didn't know what to call

00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:50.700
it because that, I mean, all the time it's like,

00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:56.059
Ooh, that toy looks fun. Yep. Or, Ooh, that could

00:33:56.059 --> 00:34:02.180
solve a lot of problems. I mean, how many times

00:34:02.180 --> 00:34:05.890
did we want a new pocket knife? i don't really

00:34:05.890 --> 00:34:07.529
like i'm not i'm not doing a lot of whittling

00:34:07.529 --> 00:34:10.150
over here yeah i'm not even opening a lot of

00:34:10.150 --> 00:34:14.110
boxes right now but man that new pocket knife

00:34:14.110 --> 00:34:17.630
has a spring in it that's the coolest thing ever

00:34:17.630 --> 00:34:21.630
click yeah but stuff like that it just kind of

00:34:21.630 --> 00:34:23.190
piques your interest and you're like what can

00:34:23.190 --> 00:34:26.110
you do with that what what why would that be

00:34:26.110 --> 00:34:30.309
a oh that does this and then that okay so then

00:34:30.309 --> 00:34:33.150
you need one of those because once you get the

00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.300
you know, voice out of your mouth, then you've

00:34:36.300 --> 00:34:39.320
got to be able to capture that. Like the, okay,

00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.860
so I need a microphone, but then like, is there

00:34:42.860 --> 00:34:47.099
a better XLR or is it like, they're all the same

00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:52.019
and then, okay, okay, okay. So, you know, I can

00:34:52.019 --> 00:34:55.079
just get a, I'm pretty cheap here. So I'm just

00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:57.239
going to get a stand that sits on the table,

00:34:57.300 --> 00:35:00.219
but all the guys that do this professionally

00:35:00.219 --> 00:35:03.920
have these arms that they do. stick over the

00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:05.719
top of it i mean you know it's like just it just

00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.179
keeps going down the line of this thing and that

00:35:09.179 --> 00:35:13.400
thing and i'm my wife's like so patient with

00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:17.159
me but it's so hard for me to not like when i

00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:22.599
start something new to not like go uh all in

00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:27.420
all in and i mean like like i'm not gonna buy

00:35:27.420 --> 00:35:29.820
the cheap stuff because the the cheap stuff is

00:35:30.269 --> 00:35:32.489
like i'm just gonna have to repurchase that and

00:35:32.489 --> 00:35:35.250
then i'm yep whatever and when we registered

00:35:35.250 --> 00:35:39.389
for um wedding or whatever she was like what's

00:35:39.389 --> 00:35:43.090
the cheapest uh can opener we can find and i

00:35:43.090 --> 00:35:47.429
was like no and so finally like the story was

00:35:47.429 --> 00:35:49.989
we're in bed bath and beyond and she makes me

00:35:49.989 --> 00:35:53.809
put down the can opener that's the right can

00:35:53.809 --> 00:35:57.369
opener in my mind it's not the most expensive

00:35:57.369 --> 00:35:59.909
one But like, this is, this is a quality one.

00:36:00.030 --> 00:36:02.989
This is not, but we're whatever. It's a can opener.

00:36:03.309 --> 00:36:05.210
I mean, we're not talking about like hundreds

00:36:05.210 --> 00:36:08.110
of dollars here. Correct. But it's a, it's a

00:36:08.110 --> 00:36:10.469
can opener. It's a nice can opener. And she makes

00:36:10.469 --> 00:36:14.110
me put it back and she hands me like the little

00:36:14.110 --> 00:36:23.010
crap, like just junkie can opener. And so with

00:36:23.010 --> 00:36:28.280
my fiance. They're right next to me. I take the

00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:31.179
little scanner and I scan the crappy can opener

00:36:31.179 --> 00:36:33.760
and I said, we'll be buying another one of you

00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:41.039
later. Yes. Don't buy the crap. I heard it put

00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:43.920
well the other day that if you're going to be

00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:48.280
using something every day or almost every day,

00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.420
you should really buy something good. Don't buy

00:36:51.420 --> 00:36:55.429
trash. And I really don't like buying trash for

00:36:55.429 --> 00:36:58.530
anything that I get because I don't, I don't

00:36:58.530 --> 00:37:02.869
like, and it's to me, the funny part, I know

00:37:02.869 --> 00:37:09.170
this is explaining my white middle classness

00:37:09.170 --> 00:37:12.190
to everybody. And I'm so sorry. But like the,

00:37:12.210 --> 00:37:15.630
the idea that like I, even if it's something

00:37:15.630 --> 00:37:17.949
that I don't use very often, I don't want to

00:37:17.949 --> 00:37:20.829
come to something that I like a tool. that I

00:37:20.829 --> 00:37:23.329
don't use very often, but I, but I need it to

00:37:23.329 --> 00:37:25.809
do something and I go up to it and it's broken

00:37:25.809 --> 00:37:28.809
or it's not working because I didn't buy the

00:37:28.809 --> 00:37:32.329
right one. And it's that like, I just need it

00:37:32.329 --> 00:37:34.650
to be reliable. I just need it to do what it's

00:37:34.650 --> 00:37:38.909
supposed to do. This is annoying. And you get

00:37:38.909 --> 00:37:41.889
into that mentality with podcast gear and all

00:37:41.889 --> 00:37:44.329
of a sudden, like number one, it is super fun.

00:37:44.469 --> 00:37:47.860
Oh wow. That was, that was very sharp. It was,

00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:51.039
it is super fun to look at all of the solutions

00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.599
that are out there and find like all of the different,

00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:57.460
like even the fact that PodMic has been out there

00:37:57.460 --> 00:37:59.119
for a while, but I didn't know anything about

00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.199
it. And you bring one and it's like, wow, this

00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:07.039
thing is awesome. Like the, you, you research

00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.940
this enough and you find these little niche products

00:38:09.940 --> 00:38:11.920
or these things that were built for this specific

00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.400
purpose. Yeah. And it's like, that's amazing.

00:38:16.309 --> 00:38:21.269
I want that. Oh yeah. But you know, we're also

00:38:21.269 --> 00:38:28.329
not realists. What's the, um, you would say realist

00:38:28.329 --> 00:38:32.949
for sure. Um, the, uh, pessimist, practicalist,

00:38:32.969 --> 00:38:35.690
practicalist, practical. No, that's not the word,

00:38:35.710 --> 00:38:38.690
but practical. We're both practical. Yep. And

00:38:38.690 --> 00:38:40.489
so you want to find something that's useful for

00:38:40.489 --> 00:38:42.869
a bunch of different things. Yep. So my first,

00:38:42.909 --> 00:38:45.670
one of my first, like, microphone searches was

00:38:45.670 --> 00:38:49.070
trying to find if there was a, um, a podcast

00:38:49.070 --> 00:38:53.050
mic that was a good reference mic. Cause I'm

00:38:53.050 --> 00:38:54.730
like, well, if I'm going to buy a microphone

00:38:54.730 --> 00:38:58.250
that does everything that I need it to do. And

00:38:58.250 --> 00:39:01.449
then you are like, no, I don't, this is not,

00:39:01.449 --> 00:39:04.530
this is not one for one. Like I want the reference

00:39:04.530 --> 00:39:06.429
mic to be as flat as possible. And I want the

00:39:06.429 --> 00:39:11.670
podcast mic to not make me sound like I only

00:39:11.670 --> 00:39:18.250
have, coming out of my nose. Because that's real.

00:39:18.429 --> 00:39:21.170
Yeah. Yeah, I guess what I've kind of learned

00:39:21.170 --> 00:39:24.250
is, you know, you want to kind of put this in

00:39:24.250 --> 00:39:26.829
terms that maybe some people understand. Everybody

00:39:26.829 --> 00:39:30.690
wants the Milwaukee or the DeWalt. Yeah. And

00:39:30.690 --> 00:39:33.789
if you have the money. Great. Great. You're never

00:39:33.789 --> 00:39:38.630
going to complain. But it is okay to buy the

00:39:38.630 --> 00:39:41.960
Ryobi. You're not buying. I thought you were

00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.380
going to say Porter Cable. No, no. You know,

00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:48.760
Ryobi is maybe not the best, but it gets the

00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:51.039
job done. It gets the job done well. Right. What's

00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.920
the Harbor Freight? Yes. That's what you got

00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:58.500
to stay away from. Maybe, maybe, maybe some hand

00:39:58.500 --> 00:40:01.099
tools. Okay. But if it's a power tool. Don't

00:40:01.099 --> 00:40:03.480
touch it. Don't touch it. It's like you're looking

00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:06.760
at a microphone. Don't buy the $30 microphone

00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.590
off of Amazon because it has lights and. Looks

00:40:09.590 --> 00:40:12.369
fancy. I mean, especially if it's got lights,

00:40:12.449 --> 00:40:14.469
don't buy it. You're going to regret it. Yeah.

00:40:15.369 --> 00:40:17.429
That's a mistake. You know, kind of hit that

00:40:17.429 --> 00:40:20.329
upper level. So, you know, most of the microphones

00:40:20.329 --> 00:40:28.030
that I have, on the higher end, I think the RE27

00:40:28.030 --> 00:40:35.570
was $450, and that's a lot of money. Now, you

00:40:35.570 --> 00:40:40.000
can go $1 ,000. You know, and however high up

00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.199
you want to go. Right. So that's kind of the

00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:46.980
peak for me, but most of mine that I've bought

00:40:46.980 --> 00:40:49.000
because I can't have just one, it's like Lays.

00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.260
You can't have just one. No. Or anywhere from

00:40:52.260 --> 00:40:57.860
$250 to $350. Right. You know, and again, that's

00:40:57.860 --> 00:41:01.079
kind of that Ryobi middle of the road. It's going

00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:02.920
to work well. Yeah, that's what you should be

00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:06.440
expecting. Correct. And then it's also nice that

00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.559
when you start digging into, well, what is this

00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.280
particular person using? And then you start finding

00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.119
out, oh, they have some of the same gear that

00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.059
I do. Yeah. It's like, okay, well, I'm on the

00:41:15.059 --> 00:41:18.739
right track. Yeah. Hardware wise. And it makes

00:41:18.739 --> 00:41:20.239
a difference. So make sure you buy something

00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.940
good. Right. Because you can't fix a bad mic.

00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:30.559
And yeah, the source has to be right. Yeah. And

00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.139
then once you've got the mic figured out. then

00:41:33.139 --> 00:41:37.260
you've got to get the right mixer, whatever you're,

00:41:37.260 --> 00:41:40.699
whatever you're going to use. Yeah. Preamps are

00:41:40.699 --> 00:41:44.900
a big deal. You know, do you want it to make

00:41:44.900 --> 00:41:47.659
you sound washed out? Do you want it to super

00:41:47.659 --> 00:41:50.440
color your audio? What are you looking for? So

00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.719
again, you've got to buy a good quality product.

00:41:54.139 --> 00:41:57.360
Right. And then for me, you know, you buy the

00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:02.179
nice mic, you buy the, the road caster. You look

00:42:02.179 --> 00:42:04.900
like you know what you're doing. And then you're

00:42:04.900 --> 00:42:09.039
like, oh, now I have this recording. What do

00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:12.820
I do? Yeah. And it's like, I'm going to YouTube.

00:42:13.099 --> 00:42:15.940
Well, that guy's doing that. So let me try that.

00:42:16.099 --> 00:42:18.219
Oh, that guy's doing that. I'll try that next

00:42:18.219 --> 00:42:21.480
time. And this is trying to processing like this

00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.159
is the post post work that you're talking about.

00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.900
Yeah. You know, this guy sets his gate this way.

00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:31.750
This guy, you know, sets his EQ this way. you

00:42:31.750 --> 00:42:34.210
know, just, you're just experimenting and kind

00:42:34.210 --> 00:42:38.909
of like, there is no simple way to do it. Yeah.

00:42:39.590 --> 00:42:41.570
You know, I think that's the step that I usually

00:42:41.570 --> 00:42:44.489
take for granted because I've been doing one

00:42:44.489 --> 00:42:47.909
version of that or another for a while, which

00:42:47.909 --> 00:42:53.130
was why it was exciting to me when you said you

00:42:53.130 --> 00:42:55.369
wanted to do that. It was like, that's awesome.

00:42:55.510 --> 00:42:59.210
Cause that's a skill. Yeah. Like you got to hone

00:42:59.210 --> 00:43:02.030
your ear to be able to hear, yeah the difference

00:43:02.030 --> 00:43:12.769
between you know um too much bass and you know

00:43:12.769 --> 00:43:17.369
i i mean muddy and thin and correct what's the

00:43:17.369 --> 00:43:22.250
you know okay like that was too much on the sibilance

00:43:22.250 --> 00:43:25.090
like okay so which frequency do i need to look

00:43:25.090 --> 00:43:28.340
at for Trying to tame that. I'll say something

00:43:28.340 --> 00:43:30.300
to do with the mic that you're on. Yeah. No,

00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.880
but like just talking about figuring that out

00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:39.199
and then it's amazing how whenever you've spent,

00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.099
you know, hours trying to fix that in a recording,

00:43:42.260 --> 00:43:44.679
it changes the way that you record the next time.

00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.880
Oh yeah. Cause now I'm turning my head a little

00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:51.159
bit differently to try to not make that same

00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.760
mistake again. And that's, what's going to make

00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:58.650
the, live in drinking. Right. Because if you

00:43:58.650 --> 00:44:03.110
don't have your levels right before you go live.

00:44:03.250 --> 00:44:06.230
Right. You're just going to get what you get.

00:44:06.670 --> 00:44:09.909
And you don't throw a fit. No. And if it sounds

00:44:09.909 --> 00:44:12.469
like trash, it's just going to sound like trash.

00:44:12.510 --> 00:44:14.969
It just happens to be life. Live trash. Live

00:44:14.969 --> 00:44:18.309
trash. There you go. Trash that stains your,

00:44:18.409 --> 00:44:22.480
you know. Close. Yes. Anyway, sorry. So just,

00:44:22.579 --> 00:44:26.500
yeah. So for me, it's really been a, a journey

00:44:26.500 --> 00:44:29.940
of learning. Yeah. Journey sounds kind of cheesy.

00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.019
Sure. But you know, learning not just hardware

00:44:34.019 --> 00:44:36.800
hard to me, the hardware part is easy. Yeah.

00:44:37.139 --> 00:44:39.880
It's the, that's what, what's your appetite.

00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:44.519
Correct. It's setting the EQ, you know, okay.

00:44:44.619 --> 00:44:49.349
I need a pop filter for this or. I need to know

00:44:49.349 --> 00:44:52.949
if I go off axis on this microphone, what is

00:44:52.949 --> 00:44:54.630
that going to do? So I've got to make sure I'm

00:44:54.630 --> 00:44:57.489
like up on the mic. Don't get off on the side.

00:44:57.969 --> 00:45:00.170
You know, all these little things that go into

00:45:00.170 --> 00:45:02.809
the recording that you're going to get. What's

00:45:02.809 --> 00:45:05.449
the proximity effect? What does it do on this

00:45:05.449 --> 00:45:07.349
microphone? That type of thing. This one should

00:45:07.349 --> 00:45:09.369
have a really good proximity. Oh my goodness.

00:45:10.750 --> 00:45:12.909
Really good. Well, and that's, and that's the

00:45:12.909 --> 00:45:16.150
thing. So like the mic that you're on and already

00:45:16.150 --> 00:45:20.639
re three 20. they try to eliminate the proximity

00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:24.820
effect. Yeah. So you try to get that real voice

00:45:24.820 --> 00:45:27.219
as much as you can, no matter how close or how

00:45:27.219 --> 00:45:30.059
far away you are. Right. Other mics, you know,

00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:33.340
people love the proximity effect. That's why

00:45:33.340 --> 00:45:36.079
so many people like the Heil PR -40. You get

00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.000
up on that thing, you're almost eating that mic,

00:45:38.139 --> 00:45:42.280
you get all that extra basic boom in your voice,

00:45:42.420 --> 00:45:44.260
and you sound like you've got a radio voice.

00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:48.309
Yeah. I mean, that's the SM. 7b is a lot of that

00:45:48.309 --> 00:45:51.150
yep which is kind of kind of funny to me because

00:45:51.150 --> 00:45:53.869
you know it was made popular by michael jackson

00:45:53.869 --> 00:45:58.130
using it in thriller but or you know anyway um

00:45:58.130 --> 00:46:01.309
because if if there's one thing michael jackson

00:46:01.309 --> 00:46:10.050
is not it's woofy no he's definitely not he's

00:46:10.050 --> 00:46:12.989
not no that is kind of crazy to think that the

00:46:12.989 --> 00:46:16.530
original version of this just the sm7 yeah was

00:46:16.530 --> 00:46:20.730
used on that, on that album. And really hasn't

00:46:20.730 --> 00:46:23.269
been changed that much. No, just minor tweaks

00:46:23.269 --> 00:46:25.949
until the most recent one that kind of basically

00:46:25.949 --> 00:46:31.170
put the cloud lifter in the mic, the DB, I believe

00:46:31.170 --> 00:46:34.210
they call it. Yeah. Pretty good idea. Anyway.

00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.679
But, you know, then after post, then you're,

00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.199
then you're talking about like, well, how do

00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:43.139
I get this out there? And what, like what platform

00:46:43.139 --> 00:46:45.320
am I using for this? Do I have a webpage? Do

00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:48.579
I have a, am I hosting this somewhere else? Does

00:46:48.579 --> 00:46:52.099
it matter? Like what is, what is even the, you

00:46:52.099 --> 00:46:55.659
know, the difference between all of these things?

00:46:55.820 --> 00:46:58.119
You mean I can't just like have it on my computer

00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:01.760
and then everybody can download it, Chris? You

00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:03.739
could try to pull it off, but I wouldn't suggest

00:47:03.739 --> 00:47:06.510
it. Yeah. Don't do that. Yeah. So, I mean, it

00:47:06.510 --> 00:47:08.530
really does come down to who is your hosting

00:47:08.530 --> 00:47:11.829
company. And we looked at a ton. We did. You

00:47:11.829 --> 00:47:14.090
know, I had grandiose visions in the beginning.

00:47:14.269 --> 00:47:16.949
Yeah. We tried actually, I think two or three

00:47:16.949 --> 00:47:19.409
different ways of doing this. Yeah. For this

00:47:19.409 --> 00:47:22.789
show. Yep. Yep. I thought, you know, we're going

00:47:22.789 --> 00:47:24.590
to, we're going to self host. It's going to be,

00:47:24.730 --> 00:47:28.110
this is going to be amazing. I'm going to personally

00:47:28.110 --> 00:47:32.789
build out all of this RSS. um, XML behind the

00:47:32.789 --> 00:47:34.989
scenes for all this podcasting 2 .0. This is

00:47:34.989 --> 00:47:36.909
going to be amazing. Watch what I can do. Right.

00:47:37.050 --> 00:47:39.909
And then it just was like, Oh yeah, I'm not going

00:47:39.909 --> 00:47:42.710
to do that. Yeah, no, that's, that's, I'm not

00:47:42.710 --> 00:47:45.489
doing that. So we settled with rss .com. Yeah.

00:47:45.690 --> 00:47:49.429
They do some things that are 2 .0. Yeah. They're

00:47:49.429 --> 00:47:52.150
slowly adding more. Yeah. You know, but they're

00:47:52.150 --> 00:47:55.670
not going to add it if they're paying, um, people

00:47:55.670 --> 00:47:59.070
aren't asking for it. Right. So, and there are

00:47:59.070 --> 00:48:02.230
some others that they're, Pure 2 .0, and that's

00:48:02.230 --> 00:48:05.570
great, but their pricing models don't necessarily

00:48:05.570 --> 00:48:09.369
fit as well. No. And so you try to find that

00:48:09.369 --> 00:48:10.989
compromise. What are you willing to pay for?

00:48:11.429 --> 00:48:15.989
And what are you remembering as a hobby? Correct.

00:48:16.030 --> 00:48:18.989
And I love the idea that if someday we did ever

00:48:18.989 --> 00:48:21.900
explode... It's their problem to deal with all

00:48:21.900 --> 00:48:23.719
the bandwidth. Yeah. We don't have to keep up

00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.099
with that mess. That's nice. Like that's y 'all's

00:48:26.099 --> 00:48:27.840
problem. I'm going to keep paying you 20 bucks

00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.800
a month. Suckers. Yes. Y 'all are going to eat

00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.480
that. Yeah. So, but yeah, there's a lot that

00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.500
goes, that goes into that, you know, to your

00:48:36.500 --> 00:48:38.579
point. And once you've kind of got it, you know,

00:48:38.579 --> 00:48:40.440
okay, where's this artwork going to come from?

00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:43.000
Is it going to stay the same art every time?

00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:45.579
Right. That's fine. A lot of most podcasts do

00:48:45.579 --> 00:48:49.739
that. Yeah. I like the idea of changing it up.

00:48:50.219 --> 00:48:52.039
Make it something different. It makes it obvious.

00:48:52.179 --> 00:48:54.539
Oh, that's not the same art from the previous.

00:48:54.860 --> 00:48:59.059
And we're rotating art. So it is eventually going

00:48:59.059 --> 00:49:02.000
to loop back. And I'm feeling the itch to get

00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.900
some more. Yep. So it's been a while. Where'd

00:49:05.900 --> 00:49:10.300
you get it? I went to Fiverr. Fiverr. Yeah. I

00:49:10.300 --> 00:49:14.400
could try experimenting with some of the AI tools

00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.599
and try to put together something, but that's

00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:20.539
not my forte. Sure. I'm not a, I'm not a prompt

00:49:20.539 --> 00:49:25.800
jockey. If we need to do a show on AI prompts,

00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:30.219
then maybe that'll be a reason to do it. So I've

00:49:30.219 --> 00:49:33.039
been pleased with what we've got. I really want

00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:36.480
to, I'm not a prompt jockey. I'm not, I'm not

00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:38.460
a prompt jockey. There are some people that are

00:49:38.460 --> 00:49:40.719
excellent at it and the art that they can, that

00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:44.320
they can produce is off the charts. But I would

00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:48.980
love to actually hone in on a logo. For the show.

00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:53.840
And then that can reoccur in the art. Yeah. But

00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.480
I still want that etched on these mugs. Yeah.

00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:59.820
We got to figure that out. And I still want to

00:49:59.820 --> 00:50:03.239
figure out once you've donated so much to the

00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:07.639
show, you get a mug, you know, kind of gamified

00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.260
a little bit, but that also gets into, okay,

00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.199
now how do we get that reach? Yeah. Jason, you've,

00:50:13.260 --> 00:50:15.800
you've, you've made it, man. Yeah. Yeah. As soon

00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:19.500
as we get into etch mugs, Yours will be hand

00:50:19.500 --> 00:50:22.880
delivered. So, yeah, once you've kind of, okay,

00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.500
I figured out I've got my hosting company. It's

00:50:25.500 --> 00:50:26.960
going to get out there. They're going to put

00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:30.559
me in all these various services or whatever

00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:33.159
you want to call it, you know, Apple, Google,

00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:38.840
Amazon, Spotify, you know, all these other companies.

00:50:39.179 --> 00:50:42.000
And you know that you're kind of just giving

00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:46.300
them your product. And they're going to advertise

00:50:46.300 --> 00:50:48.099
on it all they want and make money off of you,

00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:49.320
and you're not going to get anything in return.

00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:54.519
Boo. But that's kind of that entry of like, well,

00:50:54.619 --> 00:50:56.480
if that's what it takes to get some exposure,

00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:59.760
then that's what it takes. Right. Which is, again,

00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:04.099
now we've moved into the reach side of it. Correct.

00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:08.940
How do we get more exposure? So making sure you're

00:51:08.940 --> 00:51:12.239
on different platforms. Different platforms and

00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:16.320
just kind of looking at shows. So I will pull

00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:18.320
back the curtain and give people some real numbers.

00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:22.619
There you go. We'll go back, what, five shows?

00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:26.099
Five shows. One, two, three, four. Okay, so five

00:51:26.099 --> 00:51:30.139
shows ago was Dave, my mind is going, I can feel

00:51:30.139 --> 00:51:34.360
it. The AI Show. I don't know who comes up with

00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:38.539
these titles. I do. Some of them are good. 18

00:51:38.539 --> 00:51:42.260
downloads since that show came out. 18. Again,

00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.119
that's why I say we're doing this for fun. We're

00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:45.920
not doing this for money. Right. If we were doing

00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.119
it for money, we'd be crying. Yeah, 18 downloads

00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:50.340
is hard to stomach if you're doing it for money.

00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.300
Correct. It's just for fun. Oh, actually, I guess

00:51:53.300 --> 00:51:55.039
that wasn't the AI show. I thought that was.

00:51:56.659 --> 00:51:58.480
Because the very next one is Bearing Gear AI

00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:02.739
Edition. So no, we did it. We did. Remember,

00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:06.380
this was the we did the show on AI. Yes. And

00:52:06.380 --> 00:52:09.260
then we did the show that was the AI like fed

00:52:09.260 --> 00:52:11.260
back into itself. That's right. Yeah. So the

00:52:11.260 --> 00:52:14.320
yeah. So my mind is going was us talking AI.

00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:18.719
Right. AI edition was me using a notebook and

00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:20.880
feeding it back into itself and showing how it

00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:23.400
hallucinates and falls apart. Yeah. Because and

00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:27.159
can't say Redfern can't say Redfern. And you

00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:30.070
didn't go to Oklahoma for college. I did. Yeah,

00:52:30.090 --> 00:52:33.909
no, that's exciting. Yes. Oh, I didn't mean to

00:52:33.909 --> 00:52:39.070
click that. Go back. So AI edition got a whole

00:52:39.070 --> 00:52:41.530
whopping 11 downloads. Maybe it's because our

00:52:41.530 --> 00:52:44.829
voices sound so much alike. Our radio voices

00:52:44.829 --> 00:52:48.829
are very similar. I'm just kidding. Yeah. So

00:52:48.829 --> 00:52:51.869
after that, it's altered reality with beer donations.

00:52:52.570 --> 00:52:57.110
That was a good show. Eight downloads. It was

00:52:57.110 --> 00:53:00.750
a good show. It was a good show. Let's talk about

00:53:00.750 --> 00:53:07.369
this for a second. You don't... It was a good

00:53:07.369 --> 00:53:10.369
show if it was a good show. It's not a good show

00:53:10.369 --> 00:53:14.010
based on... Downloads. Downloads. Correct. Can't

00:53:14.010 --> 00:53:18.030
do that to yourself. No. Now, I will admit that

00:53:18.030 --> 00:53:21.989
probably the show that we could have skipped

00:53:21.989 --> 00:53:25.110
or maybe try to find a way to make it be a little

00:53:25.110 --> 00:53:28.300
better was the Wi -Fi show. Yeah. All we were

00:53:28.300 --> 00:53:31.420
doing was literally reading specs. I was so tired,

00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:34.739
but that got 38 downloads, which is hilarious.

00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:37.880
Cause that's not a good show. No, no, it was

00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:40.760
not. It was, it was okay. It's fine. So it's

00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:42.880
just not like, you know, there's nothing really

00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.519
original about what we were doing. Okay. So then

00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.579
the next show still haven't got a cease and desist.

00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.139
It'll come someday. I'm sure. Sure. It was our

00:53:52.139 --> 00:53:54.619
30th episode. So I thought I was being creative.

00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:58.019
30 for 30. I mean, you are being creative. Mobile

00:53:58.019 --> 00:54:04.719
device management. Yes. 30 downloads. Okay. No

00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:08.739
idea why it changed. Yeah. I'm essentially using

00:54:08.739 --> 00:54:13.239
the same base tags, if you will. Right. With

00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:18.099
some modifications based off of what we may be

00:54:18.099 --> 00:54:21.599
talking about. And then you go to the most recent

00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.670
show. Non -alcoholic because we didn't have any

00:54:24.670 --> 00:54:26.929
beer. That's right. We were both drinking Dr.

00:54:27.690 --> 00:54:29.489
Pepper and Coke. Dr. Pepper and Coke. Analog

00:54:29.489 --> 00:54:34.090
versus digital. Six downloads. And it's like,

00:54:34.170 --> 00:54:38.429
again, I used all the base tags that we normally

00:54:38.429 --> 00:54:42.070
do. Nobody knows. Exactly. So no idea what's

00:54:42.070 --> 00:54:45.409
going on. Because all you ever see are downloads.

00:54:45.769 --> 00:54:48.610
Right. You have no idea what's going on. Nope.

00:54:50.210 --> 00:54:53.210
If you do get somebody who happens to be 2 .0

00:54:53.210 --> 00:54:57.469
capable, maybe they'll send you a boost and say,

00:54:57.690 --> 00:55:00.190
hey, your show sucks. You should stop doing this.

00:55:00.449 --> 00:55:02.869
Or they'll send it and go, actually, that was

00:55:02.869 --> 00:55:05.510
a pretty good show. Have you considered this?

00:55:06.030 --> 00:55:09.670
So finding ways to get feedback would be huge

00:55:09.670 --> 00:55:12.510
to helping us try to figure out how do we get

00:55:12.510 --> 00:55:14.889
more reach? How do we get out there? What are

00:55:14.889 --> 00:55:17.130
people more interested in? Maybe we're talking

00:55:17.130 --> 00:55:19.460
about topics. most of the time that people really

00:55:19.460 --> 00:55:22.840
don't care about. And so it's there, but there

00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:25.400
is no rhyme or reason to the shows that seem

00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:30.900
to hit. And so there is some SEO like magic that

00:55:30.900 --> 00:55:34.519
we haven't discovered yet. And I'm sure people

00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.139
could tell us that. Well, sure. RSS .com. If

00:55:38.139 --> 00:55:41.280
you want to pay the money and sit down and talk

00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:42.860
with them, they'll talk about how they would

00:55:42.860 --> 00:55:45.539
help you increase the reach of your show. Do

00:55:45.539 --> 00:55:51.369
this differently. But that's real numbers. I'm

00:55:51.369 --> 00:55:53.610
not afraid to put them out there. No. I'm not

00:55:53.610 --> 00:55:57.989
trying to outdo Joe Rogan. Oh, gosh, no. I have

00:55:57.989 --> 00:55:59.809
fun doing the show. And as long as I'm having

00:55:59.809 --> 00:56:01.630
fun and you're having fun and we like the beer.

00:56:02.210 --> 00:56:05.190
I mean, I like this beer. We'll just keep coming

00:56:05.190 --> 00:56:07.670
back. If we were doing the donations every time,

00:56:07.710 --> 00:56:11.469
we might have a problem. Yes. That or if every

00:56:11.469 --> 00:56:14.829
episode was the old Rasputin. Oh, my gosh. That

00:56:14.829 --> 00:56:17.889
did the show quickly. So we do this. We do a

00:56:17.889 --> 00:56:23.289
beer for you and then a beer for us. Yes. And

00:56:23.289 --> 00:56:24.969
there have been some episodes where we were bringing

00:56:24.969 --> 00:56:29.349
something new that I brought a backup beer because

00:56:29.349 --> 00:56:31.750
you're trying something new. You don't know what

00:56:31.750 --> 00:56:34.369
you're going to get. Old Rasputin is a classic

00:56:34.369 --> 00:56:36.389
example for us. And I don't want to have a bad

00:56:36.389 --> 00:56:39.070
night. No, no. That's not why we're here. So

00:56:39.070 --> 00:56:41.010
far, I've been a trooper and I've powered through

00:56:41.010 --> 00:56:44.010
everyone that I've opened. I have not. That's

00:56:44.010 --> 00:56:47.989
okay. That's okay. So, but you know, so that's

00:56:47.989 --> 00:56:49.909
kind of a piece that now I'm trying to figure

00:56:49.909 --> 00:56:51.809
out. It's like, okay, I'm still working on audio.

00:56:52.289 --> 00:56:54.929
We've got good hardware that covers a multitude

00:56:54.929 --> 00:56:59.869
of sins. It really does. But now what's going

00:56:59.869 --> 00:57:04.210
on with reach? Because we, let me find it. When

00:57:04.210 --> 00:57:08.050
I go to distribution, we're on Spotify, Amazon

00:57:08.050 --> 00:57:13.210
music, podcast index, go 2 .0. Listen notes.

00:57:13.329 --> 00:57:18.809
I've never heard of that one. Listen notes. I

00:57:18.809 --> 00:57:20.449
don't know anything about it, but it's one that

00:57:20.449 --> 00:57:24.010
they offer. And of course we're in the RSS community,

00:57:24.269 --> 00:57:28.170
Apple podcast, Pandora tune in. I heart radio

00:57:28.170 --> 00:57:33.909
and Deezer of all things. Yeah. And we do convert

00:57:33.909 --> 00:57:38.570
the show over for YouTube. Yeah. YouTube audio.

00:57:39.170 --> 00:57:42.929
Yep. So on YouTube, you're basically seeing the

00:57:42.929 --> 00:57:47.079
chapter art. With the audio. So it's not impressive

00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:50.320
on YouTube. No. By any means. But we're getting

00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:51.719
something out there. So we're doing everything

00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:54.699
we can to cast the net as far as we can go. Right.

00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:58.420
Without spending way more money. Correct. And

00:57:58.420 --> 00:58:00.159
I'm sure if we went to somebody and paid them

00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:01.559
a bunch of money, they'd be like, well, hey,

00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:03.900
we're going to do this and that. And we're going

00:58:03.900 --> 00:58:07.119
to. Get you sponsors and whatever. And then the

00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.840
show starts changing because now we've got money

00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:13.300
dictating what we can and can't say about things

00:58:13.300 --> 00:58:15.880
and what we can talk about. Gross. And I don't

00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:19.159
want to get into that. No. So now it really is.

00:58:19.659 --> 00:58:23.139
Okay. What are the keywords that seem to hit?

00:58:23.539 --> 00:58:25.340
Let's keep bringing those back as long as they

00:58:25.340 --> 00:58:27.719
make sense. I don't want to throw out a keyword

00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:31.420
just for the sake of downloads. No. So it'll

00:58:31.420 --> 00:58:34.389
just be kind of continuing to. see what I can

00:58:34.389 --> 00:58:37.090
learn from this and what you can learn from this

00:58:37.090 --> 00:58:39.949
and things that we can do to, to improve the

00:58:39.949 --> 00:58:44.809
reach. I mean, it is a slow process or stuff

00:58:44.809 --> 00:58:47.949
like that. And I feel like the, you know, part

00:58:47.949 --> 00:58:53.449
of what makes it so slow is the, like how beside

00:58:53.449 --> 00:58:57.510
the point it feels from where it was started.

00:58:58.050 --> 00:59:01.110
Yeah. You know, so it has to be like, there has

00:59:01.110 --> 00:59:04.610
to be a desire to, to learn about that in order

00:59:04.610 --> 00:59:09.190
to really spend time on it. Yeah. Because we're

00:59:09.190 --> 00:59:12.929
busy guys. Yep. Both have full -time jobs. Yep.

00:59:13.309 --> 00:59:17.570
And kids. Yep. Which is another full -time job.

00:59:17.889 --> 00:59:22.530
Correct. Or two. Or two or three. Yeah. So, so

00:59:22.530 --> 00:59:24.230
yeah, so it's just kind of continuing to figure

00:59:24.230 --> 00:59:26.849
this out. Yeah. So if anybody out there, if you're

00:59:26.849 --> 00:59:29.530
listening, you have ideas, throw them our way.

00:59:29.690 --> 00:59:31.989
Love to hear from you. We'd love a boost. Yeah.

00:59:32.860 --> 00:59:36.039
Can't beat it if you can do it. Otherwise, Beer

00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:38.340
and Gear Podcast at gmail .com. There you go.

00:59:39.460 --> 00:59:41.159
Always looking for something to come in there.

00:59:41.300 --> 00:59:44.320
Absolutely. So send it our way. Other than the

00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:48.300
spam. Well, we're not good enough yet to have

00:59:48.300 --> 00:59:50.739
spam. It's kind of where I'm at. That's true.

00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:52.340
It's just the normal spam. There's not a whole

00:59:52.340 --> 00:59:55.679
lot coming in. Well, I mean, when I look at you.

00:59:56.250 --> 00:59:58.289
We were joking about this, but we're getting

00:59:58.289 --> 01:00:00.389
stuff from blueberry. That's a hosting provider.

01:00:00.550 --> 01:00:02.550
Yeah. We get stuff from Albie, which is for our

01:00:02.550 --> 01:00:06.110
boosts. We get stuff occasionally from rss .com.

01:00:07.349 --> 01:00:10.630
Oh, what else is out there? And some YouTube.

01:00:11.570 --> 01:00:14.829
Google is like, Oh, uh, is this still active?

01:00:15.090 --> 01:00:17.170
Yeah. And we've still got some stuff where you

01:00:17.170 --> 01:00:20.090
set up Instagram for us and you set up X. Yeah.

01:00:20.170 --> 01:00:23.730
That was terrible. Yeah. Um, so there's not a

01:00:23.730 --> 01:00:27.219
whole lot going on there. But again, yeah, if

01:00:27.219 --> 01:00:29.820
you're listening and you've got ideas, send them

01:00:29.820 --> 01:00:33.199
our way. Absolutely. I'm open to any feedback

01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:36.639
that anybody can offer. I'm not afraid of constructive

01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:41.480
criticism. Not at all. Send it on over. I'm not

01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:44.300
afraid of unconstructive criticism at this point.

01:00:45.980 --> 01:00:51.719
I mean, what can they do? True. So what did Jason

01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:55.119
say? Oh, you want to hit the boost? Yeah. Well,

01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:57.000
before we do that, I do want to say that we did

01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.820
pass one milestone. Yes, we did. Since the last

01:00:59.820 --> 01:01:04.159
show, we broke a thousand total downloads. Boom.

01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.639
Big deal for me. Sure. I mean, that's a lot of

01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:09.820
downloads now. It took a year. It took a year

01:01:09.820 --> 01:01:12.300
and a half, but that's okay. It's fine. That's

01:01:12.300 --> 01:01:14.699
what. We're a little podcast. Correct. And I

01:01:14.699 --> 01:01:16.760
realized that with rss .com, you've got to do

01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:20.739
that every month. Yeah. To get into their monetization.

01:01:21.369 --> 01:01:24.769
Listen, I've been downloading it five times a

01:01:24.769 --> 01:01:27.150
week. Well, apparently what I need to do is,

01:01:27.190 --> 01:01:29.710
yeah, I need to. Here's what I need to do. I

01:01:29.710 --> 01:01:31.210
need to take advantage of some of these download

01:01:31.210 --> 01:01:33.510
farms over in India. Yeah, that's right. And

01:01:33.510 --> 01:01:36.010
artificially crank up our number. It's like,

01:01:36.010 --> 01:01:38.849
listen, what is that cost based off what RSS

01:01:38.849 --> 01:01:42.909
will pay me? Let's find a let's find one in Australia

01:01:42.909 --> 01:01:45.610
just because they were the last Aussies. Yeah,

01:01:45.710 --> 01:01:48.969
they were the last to show up. They might want

01:01:48.969 --> 01:01:52.329
more money. Nevermind. Let's go to the lowest

01:01:52.329 --> 01:01:55.130
bidder. There you go. Okay. So yeah, we do have

01:01:55.130 --> 01:01:58.289
a boost for the show. For those that don't know,

01:01:58.429 --> 01:02:02.610
boost is a part of podcasting 2 .0. It enables

01:02:02.610 --> 01:02:06.489
you to send Satoshi's, which is fractions of

01:02:06.489 --> 01:02:10.989
a Bitcoin to us. And with that, you're, you're

01:02:10.989 --> 01:02:13.929
helping push the show, promote the show. Right.

01:02:14.230 --> 01:02:16.610
And you get to throw a little message in and

01:02:16.610 --> 01:02:19.869
your message gets read on the show. And we get

01:02:19.869 --> 01:02:25.449
a fraction of a cent toward them. Fractions upon

01:02:25.449 --> 01:02:29.309
fractions of a cent. We have a whole whopping

01:02:29.309 --> 01:02:34.769
$6 .26 out there. Dadgum right. Yeah. So Jason

01:02:34.769 --> 01:02:37.210
sent us. My kid's college fund. There you go.

01:02:37.869 --> 01:02:43.289
As long as we get deflation. So Jason sent us

01:02:43.289 --> 01:02:47.429
111 sats with a message that says mini row of

01:02:47.429 --> 01:02:51.320
sticks. Yeah. Think about that one once. Goodbye,

01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:55.860
the days of copper snakes. Bring on the STP with

01:02:55.860 --> 01:02:58.840
Ethercon. Dadgum right. Heck yeah, man. I mean,

01:02:58.940 --> 01:03:01.920
Jason, I know you knew exactly what I was talking

01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:04.559
about. Oh, yeah. It's just that moment that you

01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:08.019
see the coil of Cat 5, and you're like, wait,

01:03:08.179 --> 01:03:14.260
what? Uh -huh. I remember thinking, like, that's

01:03:14.260 --> 01:03:17.860
not possible. There's no way. There's no way

01:03:17.860 --> 01:03:20.659
that, oh my gosh, it does. If I remember correctly,

01:03:20.820 --> 01:03:24.739
that's AES 50. Yeah, AES 50 was the one that

01:03:24.739 --> 01:03:33.719
we used for anything Behringer or Wing. AES 50

01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:39.139
is Clark Technics. Yes. Not everybody uses the

01:03:39.139 --> 01:03:45.949
same. That's a different show. I'm talking about

01:03:45.949 --> 01:03:47.750
that, right? We need to do a snake show. We need

01:03:47.750 --> 01:03:53.250
to do a, well, we need to do a, um, an audio

01:03:53.250 --> 01:03:56.670
show, an AV show or whatever that, that talks

01:03:56.670 --> 01:04:01.329
about the, um, the same type of thing that we

01:04:01.329 --> 01:04:03.250
talked about with computers, you know, when we

01:04:03.250 --> 01:04:06.570
did PC and Mac and how, when you have different,

01:04:06.769 --> 01:04:10.829
uh, when you have companies that are competing

01:04:10.829 --> 01:04:15.360
with each other, the idea that, They have to

01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:25.619
have the same standards or the same, I don't

01:04:25.619 --> 01:04:30.539
know. Protocol? Protocols. I mean, insert what

01:04:30.539 --> 01:04:32.619
you want to when it comes to how they interact

01:04:32.619 --> 01:04:35.980
with each other. There's something to be gained

01:04:35.980 --> 01:04:40.519
by. making it available for everybody yeah everybody

01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:42.059
talking the same language and there's something

01:04:42.059 --> 01:04:45.559
to be gained from making it exclusive and the

01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:48.500
weighing of that happens in every industry i'm

01:04:48.500 --> 01:04:55.260
sure um but the fact that some of this is not

01:04:55.260 --> 01:05:00.420
settled in the av world i'd love to hear jason's

01:05:00.420 --> 01:05:02.780
thoughts on this so jason if you're listening

01:05:02.780 --> 01:05:05.769
anyway maybe that's a future show Yeah, this

01:05:05.769 --> 01:05:09.090
does say that it's primarily used by Behringer

01:05:09.090 --> 01:05:12.489
and Midas. Which is the same company. Correct.

01:05:13.010 --> 01:05:17.010
Now. Yes. And Clark Technic is a part of them.

01:05:18.889 --> 01:05:21.309
So they actually... I believe so. Music Tribe

01:05:21.309 --> 01:05:23.530
bought Clark Technic. Yeah, I believe so. Let

01:05:23.530 --> 01:05:29.949
me confirm that so I'm not doing any... Oh, what's

01:05:29.949 --> 01:05:38.980
the term? Fake news. He totally was wrong. They're

01:05:38.980 --> 01:05:43.559
not owned by those people. Anyway, it is like,

01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:45.579
but it's one of those things that they, like

01:05:45.579 --> 01:05:50.539
I talked about, then you have to, it makes sense

01:05:50.539 --> 01:05:53.579
for people to have everything in house. And it

01:05:53.579 --> 01:05:57.380
makes sense for people to have things that talk

01:05:57.380 --> 01:06:01.880
to other companies or other products, products

01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:07.099
made by other companies. And as the end user,

01:06:07.300 --> 01:06:12.920
sometimes it's awesome when everything is made

01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:15.119
by the same company. And sometimes it's kind

01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.980
of a pain in the rear. Yep. So, yeah, Music Tribe,

01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:23.420
formerly Music Group, does have Behringer, Midas,

01:06:23.500 --> 01:06:29.320
Turbosound, TC Electric, Clark Technic, TC Helicon.

01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:33.519
I don't know that one. TC Helicon. Yeah. Sorry,

01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:35.880
we'll talk about that. But they're all under

01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:39.440
the same umbrella. I don't think I realized that

01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:42.639
they had a TC Helicon or TC electric. That's

01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:44.860
interesting. They've got them both turbo sound

01:06:44.860 --> 01:06:51.400
to know in lab grouping and Aston microphones.

01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:55.019
Really? Yeah. I know you like your Aston. I do

01:06:55.019 --> 01:06:59.099
like my Aston. Let's say that a little slower.

01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:02.889
Well, what's going in my. I don't remember if

01:07:02.889 --> 01:07:06.289
it was a commercial or what it was, complimenting

01:07:06.289 --> 01:07:10.630
a guy about his ascot. And he says, you bet your

01:07:10.630 --> 01:07:17.989
ass I do. That's funny. No, I definitely did

01:07:17.989 --> 01:07:19.489
not know that. Yeah, they have Vasta microphones.

01:07:19.650 --> 01:07:26.570
I wouldn't wear that either. I mean, I could

01:07:26.570 --> 01:07:28.590
say all kinds of things about this. We'll talk

01:07:28.590 --> 01:07:35.380
later. Yes. Save it for the next show. Hey, man,

01:07:35.420 --> 01:07:37.260
thanks for hanging out. I enjoyed it, man. It's

01:07:37.260 --> 01:07:40.380
good beer as always. Always. Dadgum. Can definitely

01:07:40.380 --> 01:07:43.199
recommend Sanctimonium. We definitely need to

01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:47.179
look at True Vine as a location for a live show.

01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:51.980
That would be a good one. There in East Texas

01:07:51.980 --> 01:07:57.539
Brewery. It would probably be hard to pull one

01:07:57.539 --> 01:08:01.599
off at BJ's Restaurant. Yeah, I mean, I feel

01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:03.679
like East Texas Brewery, if we did it outside,

01:08:04.059 --> 01:08:06.420
we wouldn't have the problem. But East Texas

01:08:06.420 --> 01:08:11.880
Brewery and BJ's would have the same. This is

01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.219
really loud. Yeah. Well, East Texas Brewery,

01:08:15.260 --> 01:08:17.119
they do have that. If we can go down the stairs

01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:19.039
and they have that separate room with a whole

01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:21.739
nother bar. Yeah. If it's not too crazy there

01:08:21.739 --> 01:08:23.819
and they don't have live music, you could totally

01:08:23.819 --> 01:08:27.039
pull it off. Absolutely. So True Vine, they've

01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:31.609
got a lot of potential. or options. Yeah. It's

01:08:31.609 --> 01:08:35.750
kind of out of the way. Yep. Anyway, thanks for

01:08:35.750 --> 01:08:38.489
joining us. Enjoyed it, man. See you, everybody.

01:08:38.630 --> 01:09:04.880
Every time. See you. Good morning, this is Weekend

01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:08.319
Edition from NPR. I'm Scott Simon, and I'd like

01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:10.539
to begin today's show with a moment of quiet

01:09:10.539 --> 01:09:14.300
reflection. Not for any particular reason, I

01:09:14.300 --> 01:09:17.220
just enjoy the sound of my own breathing. It

01:09:17.220 --> 01:09:22.979
reassures me that for now, I am still here. Our

01:09:22.979 --> 01:09:25.800
top story today, scientists have issued yet another

01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:29.260
dire warning about climate change. The oceans

01:09:29.260 --> 01:09:31.420
are rising, the forests are burning, and quite

01:09:31.420 --> 01:09:36.000
frankly, I can't help but wonder, why am I still

01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:40.039
paying rent? I should just lie down in the middle

01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:42.399
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01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:46.060
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01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:49.260
Last night, I stood in my kitchen at 3 a .m.

01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:53.399
eating cold pasta with my bare hands when I remembered

01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:56.619
something from childhood. My uncle once told

01:09:56.619 --> 01:10:00.340
me that I had, quote, the kind of face that doesn't

01:10:00.340 --> 01:10:05.460
inspire trust, end quote. I was six. He said

01:10:05.460 --> 01:10:07.600
it like an observation, like he was telling me

01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:10.420
I had brown hair. I haven't stopped thinking

01:10:10.420 --> 01:10:14.840
about it for 40 years. Anyway, let's talk about

01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:19.079
the economy. This week, we examine the financial

01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:22.079
struggles of young Americans who claim they will

01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:26.010
never be able to afford a home. But have they

01:10:26.010 --> 01:10:30.010
considered simply inheriting one? We'll speak

01:10:30.010 --> 01:10:32.909
to an anti -Trump Harvard economist who has never

01:10:32.909 --> 01:10:35.569
put a pistol to their head because they couldn't

01:10:35.569 --> 01:10:38.050
pay the electric bill. And who once described

01:10:38.050 --> 01:10:41.270
his darkest moment as, quote, the time my dad

01:10:41.270 --> 01:10:44.850
made me drive the Porsche with the cloth seats,

01:10:45.170 --> 01:10:49.850
end quote. Speaking of regret, I'd like to issue

01:10:49.850 --> 01:10:52.869
a formal apology to the woman I dated in 1997.

01:10:54.109 --> 01:10:56.189
who told me she was going to move to New York

01:10:56.189 --> 01:10:59.550
and become an actress. I laughed. I said, you?

01:11:00.069 --> 01:11:03.390
Broadway? She's now a four -time Tony winner.

01:11:04.050 --> 01:11:07.369
I, meanwhile, am sitting here, slowly realizing

01:11:07.369 --> 01:11:10.010
that every major event of my life has been leading

01:11:10.010 --> 01:11:15.770
me to an inevitable and humiliating death. But

01:11:15.770 --> 01:11:18.130
that's not today's story. No, today we look at

01:11:18.130 --> 01:11:22.829
a new study suggesting... that houseplants can

01:11:22.829 --> 01:11:27.130
hear us when we talk. That's right. Every time

01:11:27.130 --> 01:11:30.529
I've whispered I wish I had never been born into

01:11:30.529 --> 01:11:33.970
the leaves of my ficus, it was listening, judging.

01:11:35.109 --> 01:11:40.529
And now a special segment, a deep dive into artisanal

01:11:40.529 --> 01:11:43.850
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01:11:46.590 --> 01:11:50.460
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