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Hey Kris, how you doing?

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Good, how you doing John?

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I'm doing great.

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Hope everybody out there is doing good.

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Yes.

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Surviving after the storm.

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Surviving after the, we had some big winds.

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Yes we did.

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In East Texas.

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Now see, I went to school, I went to college in Oklahoma where there are big winds all

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the time because that place, I mean, doesn't have a single hill.

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It does.

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Sure.

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South Oklahoma is not as bad, but like it is just ridiculous how high the winds get

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when you get up there in the same height as our panhandle, same elevation as our panhandle.

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And it is pretty intense.

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We don't get that here in East Texas because we have hills and trees.

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But when the big winds do come, that means all of those trees decide they've had about

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enough.

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Now, if you've listened to the previous show, you weren't in Oklahoma.

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I was in Oklahoma.

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You were in Oklahoma last show.

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I haven't gone back to Oklahoma in a while because I had enough of it.

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Well I'm talking about what the AI got wrong.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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You didn't go there for college, I went there for college.

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AI got that wrong.

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And it can't pronounce your last name.

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No, but nobody can.

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Mr. Red Furing.

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Red Furing just keeps getting worse and worse.

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It's fine.

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Yes.

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I've been called a lot of names.

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Anyway.

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Yeah, I forgot about that.

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Yep.

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Yes.

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No, I'm the one who went to school in Oklahoma.

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Yes you are.

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Eesh.

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Anyway.

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Hey, I hear we have a gift.

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We do have a gift.

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This comes from our friend Michael Moore.

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Thank you Michael.

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Yes, a wonderful mixed beer donation to the show.

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Yeah, we're big fans of the mixed beer six packs.

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Yes.

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So there are some fan favorites here.

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That's got some different.

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We've got the Breakfast Out.

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That's a crowd pleaser.

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That's a crowd pleaser for sure.

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I see a Guinness drought on this side.

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We've got a Founders Dirty B.

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Okay.

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Actually, I believe there are two of those.

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Yeah, there's another one on this side that's I think a Dirty B.

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Dirty B.

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Dirty B.

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This one, I think we've got to give it a little grief over.

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Oh, man.

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I mean, come on dude, what are you doing?

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I know he listens.

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So for those that you don't know, I have my hand wrapped around a Bud Light.

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And I'm not even complaining just because of the wokeness.

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No, it's a light beer.

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Michael, I know you listen, dude.

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Come on.

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Love you, but come on.

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I need you to take stock of the people sitting at this table and then think about the light

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beer choice.

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So then we've got the Obsidian.

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I believe we've had this one before.

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We did.

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Yeah, we had the Obsidian.

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I don't remember what we thought about the Obsidian.

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So I mean, if you all keep track of that kind of thing.

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I remember not hating it.

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It's not a Russian Imperial style.

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So we're good there.

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Maybe that was it.

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Nothing was as bad as the Russian Imperial style.

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We had two of those.

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And then yes, as you said, again, it's draft stout stout.

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Yeah, it's the stout with a little capsule that will release the nitro once you pop the

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cap.

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You got to pop that cap real fast.

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Yes, you do.

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And then pour, pour, pour, pour, pour.

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Speaking of, did you bring your cup?

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No.

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Oh, I mean, I made it out of my house this morning with my shoes on, which is a victory.

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Excuse me.

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Oh, I mean, it just looks so good.

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I got to I should just keep it up here.

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Yeah.

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Store to one of the cabinets.

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No big deal.

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Oh, we're actually moving this this room.

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Yes.

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So it's going to be happening soon, hopefully.

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I still haven't made the internet work over at the other house, but we're going to be

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moving our podcast studio to a different building on our campus.

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And it's going to be great.

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I'm super excited about this opportunity.

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If you saw the like, like we should just include in this show notes for this just a picture

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of this room.

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It is not something I'm excited about packing up moving.

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Well, no, no fun at all.

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But having that space is going to be nice.

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Yeah, I think so.

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I mean, unless, you know, it gets relegated to a smaller section of that building than

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right now, I'm thinking it will be.

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But I think it'll be a nice a nice thing.

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And especially when I get internet over there, it'll be great.

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Initially, isn't the studio going to be the only thing there?

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Yeah, they are planning on using part of it.

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We have a staff member who's having to drive in from Dallas a lot.

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So he stays there on certain nights, I think maybe Wednesday nights or something like that.

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So that, you know, part of it will be where he stays, which will be fun because it's there's

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plenty of room for all that.

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Don't crash my studio, bro.

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Yes, bro, as my kids say, bro.

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Stop it.

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My daughter has actually started saying that lately going, bro.

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And I'm like, no, no, no.

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What are you doing?

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I'm not your bro.

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Why?

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I'm like, why are you saying bro?

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Apparently, it's going around.

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Yeah, I know.

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It's like a bad virus.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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So what are you going to drink?

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And I remembered.

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Yes, you did.

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Opener this time.

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I think I put the other one in that drawer behind you just in case.

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But yes, I'm glad you brought that one.

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Part of me wants to be greedy and take that breakfast out.

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I think you should.

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You definitely should.

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You like them more than I do.

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Well, I'm going to try the obsidian again.

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Okay.

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Whoever makes a mistake during the show has to drink the Bud Light.

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Okay, let's define mistake.

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Whatever we decide is worth punishment.

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Oh, man.

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Hello, friend.

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Hello, friend.

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Hello, my old friend.

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Yeah, I remember liking this.

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Hello, darkness, my old friend.

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The shoots obsidian stout.

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That was a really good drink.

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The formation of obsidian named for the iconic lava flows forever crystallized in central

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Oregon obsidian stout is as smooth as the black glass it's named after.

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That was almost bad.

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Black barley and roasted malts deliver a depth of flavor that promises enjoyable notes of

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espresso and chocolate.

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It's a 6.4.

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Nice.

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Okay.

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Espresso and chocolate.

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There you go.

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Turn it up.

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Yeah, no, that's great.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Well, founders breakfast out.

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Coffee lovers, this one's for you.

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Brewed with an abundance of flaked oats in two types of coffee and chocolate.

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Stout has an intense fresh roasted Java nose, okay, with breakfast inspired flavors of chocolate

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and caramelized sugar for just the right amount of sweetness.

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I mean, we drink beer and we, you know, we talk about what we like about beer and being

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able to taste different things and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or what we taste or why

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it makes us like it or not like it.

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But I will tell you anytime somebody talks about the nose on a beer.

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Yeah.

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I'm not sure we're doing the same thing here.

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Yeah, I'm not gonna do that.

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Cheers.

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Oh, hello friend.

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Is it good as you remember?

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It's really good.

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Well, there you go.

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I have no problem recommending this beer to anyone.

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Founders breakfast out.

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Breakfast out.

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Not the blonde that we had.

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No breakfast out spot on dirty B is good.

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KBS I like.

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And there was one more.

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I got all of them for a, we did a Scottish Highland festival here every year.

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I don't know if we're going to keep doing it.

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But for after that, for the guys that had like really like busted it, I bought like

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all of the founders beers and we cracked them open on the back of the truck.

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It's the Porter.

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That's the one that I couldn't remember.

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They have a Porter.

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That's really good.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, they make really good beer.

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But they should stay away from blonde.

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Yes, they should.

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Yes, they should.

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I should everyone.

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Well, I mean, you know, I'm not going to say everyone.

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I was giving Jacob at work hard time today because apparently he got the it's called

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garage beer.

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It's the football players, the brothers, the Kelsey's.

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There you go.

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Yes.

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It's apparently it's their beer that they have done together.

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And you know, that's going to be it's very Midwestern.

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He described it as you can just pound it down and that it was almost like drinking water.

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That's how light and Jason, the older brother evidently is like really good at chugging.

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Okay.

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So I can imagine he would make one thing goes down easy.

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Like when they would go down easy.

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Never never have been a chugger.

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I was going to say Mr. Taylor Swift.

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Oh, we don't have any Swifties listening out there.

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I'm not worried about it.

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No, Mr. Well, I would not know.

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It's not the Swifties I'm worried about.

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They're like, yes, that's how he's famous.

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Ouch.

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Ouch.

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Yes, that's got to hurt.

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Whatever.

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There was somebody who posted one time about the video that the wife was making fun of

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the husband by basically pretending that she didn't know that Jason or that Travis was

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a well known like a celebrity in his own right before before Taylor Taylor.

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And so she was like, I mean, in the great like what she's doing for his career or whatever.

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He was like, what are you talking about?

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I mean, everybody's going to know who he is.

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He's like, he's won a Super Bowl.

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Yeah, like a couple.

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Well, I don't know.

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Like this was right when they started.

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I don't know how many he did one point.

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Anyway, it was it was very funny.

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Those guys are good podcasters.

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They're fun to listen to.

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I feel like it would be hard to not be good at it with the amount of expertise that they're

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bringing from sports and the fact that they're like really close brothers.

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Seems like you'd have some stuff to talk about.

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Yeah, I'm sure it was rough to lose that Super Bowl to his brother, too.

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And not when I did not want to like I did.

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I watched the one after that and it like I would not have wanted to be in the same room

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just because it's like that's that's got to be so hard.

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But you know, then I mean, Jason just had to do it in the other direction.

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He didn't win because he wasn't but he's part of the Eagles franchise.

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He got the one what 2017 2018.

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Oh, he's one.

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He just didn't win.

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He didn't get to win this last one.

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No, because he had to retire or chose to retire.

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I guess he chose to retire.

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I feel like I mean, that's one of those things, especially for linemen.

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My uncle was a linebacker and he talked about at the end of his life, he'd wished he'd never

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played a down a football.

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Anyway.

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All right.

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Well thank you again, Michael.

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Appreciate you, Michael.

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We never turn away free beer.

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No, that's not something we do.

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We might critique it.

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I mean, and there have been some critique.

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That's our job.

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We critique beer here.

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It is what we're paid for.

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Boy, let me tell you, you don't go into podcasting for money.

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Well, you take a vow of poverty when you go into podcasting.

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It sure seems like it.

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I'm spending a lot of money on things that don't make me any money.

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That's fine.

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So we get to play with wonderful toys.

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We do and we get to talk about things that we really like to talk about.

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Yes, we do.

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This week, I wanted to talk about a couple different things that kind of have my attention

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right now.

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So let's go back a little bit.

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In trying to figure out, I don't know if a lot of people can relate to this, but I got

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my…I went to college and got my degree in Bible, like in…it's a Bachelor of Arts

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in Religion with a Bible emphasis.

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I think that's the way that that's phrased, but I think it's religion.

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I don't think it's religious studies.

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Anyway, most people who do that go on to get their seminary degrees and then they work

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at churches or they write or they become some sort of pastor of some kind.

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I got that degree and then I worked in maintenance at a camp for five years.

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Then I worked in AV at a camp for another five years.

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Ten years after that, now I have been working at a church for ten years.

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So there's a moment when you look back in your life and you realize that you've been

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out of college for 20 years and it seems like most of your education happened after college.

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Yeah, I would agree.

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You know, whenever I started thinking about if there was something else that I wanted

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to do, which I'm not actually good at thinking of what I want very often.

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I don't know if that's weird for other people.

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I'm finding out about myself that it's not weird for me to not know what I want.

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And I think that's something that was kind of trained out of me when I was a child because

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that's not what you're supposed to spend your time thinking about.

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You're supposed to spend your time thinking about how you can help.

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Or you know, I don't know how many people who listen to us grew up in really traditional

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Christian circles, not necessarily homes.

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But being at, because my father was a pastor, being at church all the time, there was a

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lot of times that I was raised by people in the church that weren't my parents.

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And so there's a lot of ideas that I have, I think, from my childhood that didn't necessarily

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even come from mom and dad.

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So not even throwing shade in anybody's direction because it's all very convoluted.

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But I think there's a lot of, when you're trying to teach your children humility and

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you're trying to teach your children selflessness, and you're trying to teach your children how

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to be mindful of other people and to be compassionate and how to be, I mean, we'll just say Christ-like.

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There's some of the, like, you take some of the conviction of that away and you turn it

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into discipline, that you are now disciplined into these things as opposed to being convicted

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by the Holy Spirit that you should be these things because you're following Jesus.

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And if none of that makes sense to you, then I'm so sorry.

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But what it boils down to is that I think for a lot of reasons, it's really comfortable

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for me just to slide into the mindset of I'm just going to do what's being needed of me,

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what I'm being asked for.

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And what I've really enjoyed is being asked to be on a team, to have somebody see me doing

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something well and be like, okay, great, can you do this for us?

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And that to me feels very natural.

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The idea of me saying, you know what, I really enjoy doing this, and so I'm going to pursue

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doing that, very weird.

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This podcasting thing, very weird.

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So all of that means that even the idea of looking at different things that I had gotten

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a little bit of training in over the years and saying, do I like doing that, was a very

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strange thing.

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Because I don't know if everybody has this experience either, but the idea that you,

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in that most of your education coming after college, a lot of it is just like, okay, this

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is a skill that you got to learn really quick, and you pick it up and you learn how to do

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that thing.

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And you may learn some ancillary how-tos about that or why you do it that way from whoever,

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wow, that was loud.

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I don't know if everybody heard that, but that was loud.

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Yeah, it was.

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But the idea that you learn a little bit on the outside of the necessary skill that you

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needed in order to get a job done, you learn a little bit about that.

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It just makes you dangerous.

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The Dunning-Kruger effect is rampant.

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And so it's crazy because there are some things that necessarily you will become really good

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at.

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Yes.

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I think I was trying to explain to somebody how frustrating it is to meet or to have to

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train someone who is not a problem solver.

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Because again, I think people like us, we have to be problem solvers.

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Like what you spend the huge majority of your day doing is being a problem solver, is trying

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to understand what the problem is and then how to address it.

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And then also then finding the how-tos on each of those steps.

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And then you get halfway through solving the problem this way, and then you realize there

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was a better way to solve it.

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Or you get all the way through solving it this way and you realize that wasn't the problem

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and now you got to go figure out what the problem is in this other direction.

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But there's just a lot of Googling.

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There's a lot of like, nobody's going to bail you out here.

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You've got to go figure it out.

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And so because of all of that, you have this like jack of all trades mindset.

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You're not really sure where your depth is with some things.

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And so then you've kind of got to feel out whether or not you're good at this or you've

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just been able to get by with this.

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And so one of the things that I was looking at that I have found, whether or not it has

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any future in terms of a career or anything like that, but I am intrigued by is this idea

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of virtual and augmented reality.

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It makes sense to me.

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We live in a pretty small city in East Texas and it's not compared to the other cities

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that are around it.

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It's huge, but it's also an hour and 15 minutes away from Dallas.

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So there's no like, you can't call it a big city.

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But Tyler is really attractive for people to live in for a number of reasons, which

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I'm not going to go into.

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But if you don't know about Tyler, it's a great place to live.

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Partially because it's not a big city.

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But it does mean that a lot of people that were moving out of California, a lot of people

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that were moving out of other places and moving into Texas and immediately they're drawn to

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like Austin and Dallas and Houston and not really drawn to Houston because they see Houston

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and they're like, oh, a big city.

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And then they like find out about Houston.

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They're like, never mind.

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But like San Antonio and these different places that have grown incredibly.

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But then with all the growth that happens in those places, then you have the really

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smart people that are like, yeah, but I don't know.

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I don't want to then just be in the big city again.

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I just want to be closer to it.

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And so a lot of people have come to Tyler.

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Tyler is a little bit behind in quite a few areas.

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But one of them in real estate, our cost of living is incredibly low for what you get.

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For all the benefits that you get, it doesn't cost very much to live here.

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And one of the things that we're behind on inside of real estate is any kind of marketing

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that doesn't require people to be here.

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East Texas is one of those communities, large communities in like its actual scope, but

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distance.

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I think East Texas is bigger than quite a few of the Northeastern states.

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But it's definitely got that mom and pop shop, like everybody saw the film about Beaumont,

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that Jack Black, I can't even remember.

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Bernie.

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Bernie.

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Sorry, Bernie, not Beaumont.

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And the people that are into that movie.

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East Texas has some of that.

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We'll call it folksy charm.

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I always have to fight people though about it because it's like that does not mean that

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people in East Texas are stupid.

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Correct.

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Because they're not.

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Whatever you call them, you've got some rednecks where you come from too.

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And you know it.

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But that like neighborly, I mean it's just really loud what's going on.

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If you heard that, that was definitely a bathroom.

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We don't normally have this kind of trouble.

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No we don't.

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But that like neighborly, like kind of up in each other's business.

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We just got to keep going.

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Kind of up in each other's business, kind of whatever you call it.

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Shaking hands, waving, saying good morning and stuff like that is a very normal thing.

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Truman Show.

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Very Truman Show, but you know, Southern.

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Yes.

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Okay, so I'm like dancing around it.

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But like the point is that because of that, there's a lot of this like, there's a lot

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of who you know and how you know them and like that type of thing that's not really

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helpful when it comes to moving into the neighborhood and stuff like that.

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Correct.

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So something that's become popular, especially in the bigger cities and in a lot of Texas

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because of people moving here from out of state and not being able to come tour a home,

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but they really want to know what they're getting is this idea that you have a virtual

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tour of it that you have not only the plan, but you can actually step into the space and

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do these 360 tours and things like that.

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This is also becoming a really big thing for construction companies, which is huge also

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in Tyler, to be able to have the construction company or the architects even being from

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somewhere very distant.

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They design and they want to be involved in how the project is going.

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Because they really don't want to fly here all the time, because the closest big airport

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is D.F. or love and then DFW like it's just a thing.

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So they would have somebody with a 360 cam strapped to their helmet and they have them

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walk through the space and they either can do this live where you can actually ask questions

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or have the person look in a certain direction or because they walk through the entire space

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with the 360 camera on their head, they can just go back and then look at wherever they

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need to see whether or not something has happened the way that it's supposed to.

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And this is like the, I don't know if you've heard about the like AutoCAD being less and

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less of a thing and then people moving to BIM files.

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But it has a lot to do with this type of like, you can get a BIM file off of a structure

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that's already been built.

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And so the inconsistencies with the even a CAD drawing of what was supposed to be built,

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like you can see that in a BIM file.

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You can see the fact that it's not exactly like that.

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We made this change or there was this change order or we had to do it this way because

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of this or whatever.

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And so BIM files can then be turned into these.

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There's a company called Matterport that's real big in this.

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I think they're one of the first big ones in that space and they call them digital twins.

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So it's like a, there's a digital twin of the house.

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And I mean, that's all it is, is this is a digital version of this real space.

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And again, like you talk about being able to see with these 360 tours and everything,

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this house in very real, like not just pictures of it, but like your brain, your eyes are

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connected to your brain in such a way that you were processing things in 3D.

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So when you see a 2D rendition of a 3D object, you're making a lot of, your brain is making

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a lot of assumptions based on that.

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And some of it can be altered and really good, you know, real estate photographers can make

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rooms look a lot better than they actually are.

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Yes they can.

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Bigger than they actually are a lot, I don't know, just nicer in whatever way than they

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actually are.

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And so I'm not saying that that type of thing wouldn't happen with this, but it is really

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nice to have the reassurance of feeling like you have already walked through a space with

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these 360 tours.

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Now I realized that I just said this thing about 360 and it's not actually 360.

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It's not actually 3D, but that's kind of the power of this AR VR world that's up.

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And I mean, you know, like I've seen, seen, you know, you read Ready Player One.

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I've seen Ready Player One.

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One of the first movies that I remember watching that had a reference to VR in it was Hackers.

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Remember the, I can't remember what his...

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You didn't see Lawn Mower Man?

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I did, but I actually didn't see Lawn Mower Man until after I had seen Hackers.

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Okay.

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This is kind of the nature of being too young when some of these movies came out.

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Maybe my parents were a little bit looser on some of the movies.

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I'm sure they were.

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Did we not talk about how my dad was a pastor?

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Yes.

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But anyway, I watched, the only reason I watched Hackers when I was younger was because I watched

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it at my cousin's house.

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So then we get a little bit older and, you know, Matrix is a thing and you need to call

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that VRA or, you know, whatever virtual reality that, I mean, it is what it is even if it's

493
00:33:14,020 --> 00:33:17,640
not being connected through a headset.

494
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,680
But these different movies that have like pointed to this being something that should

495
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,360
happen in the future.

496
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:31,800
There's something nostalgic to this about me, or about me, about this to me in that

497
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:38,040
this does feel like one of the technologies that we were promised that's coming to fruition

498
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,120
now that we promised.

499
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,760
I realize what I'm saying there, but like that was referenced when we were young and

500
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,320
now is actually happening.

501
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:55,760
We still don't have hoverboards or flying cars or flying cars back to the future.

502
00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:04,040
But back to the future, the second one had, you know, they had their little headsets on

503
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,360
for part of it, or at least at home or something like that.

504
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Anyway.

505
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,760
There's the really awesome augmented JAWS billboard.

506
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,320
The billboard actually being augmented reality.

507
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,360
Was it like JAWS episode like 35 or something like that?

508
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,080
Ridiculous like that.

509
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,040
And then, you know, you have Rocky 7 and Fast and the Furious 12 or whatever.

510
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,760
And no, that stuff is real.

511
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:34,220
Like they just keep making these movies as long as they make money off of them.

512
00:34:34,220 --> 00:34:49,160
But the idea that this week I bought a MetaQuest 3 and have been messing with it, like it's

513
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,160
funny.

514
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Like I am immediately, when I'm putting this headset on, immediately struck by how I am

515
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,760
manipulating something that's not there.

516
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,400
But with the pass through, I can see everything around me.

517
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:14,320
I can see when my son comes into the frame, I am able to like interact and it makes it

518
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,480
feel like the headset has disappeared.

519
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:23,000
And all I have is like these floating tablets that then you're playing a game or looking

520
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:30,120
something up or listening to music or whatever the thing is that you're doing.

521
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:36,440
What I was surprised most by though was how then whenever you like are in pass through

522
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:42,760
mode and then you take it or you hit the little button that takes it into complete virtual

523
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:48,920
reality where your world disappears.

524
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,040
How shocking that feels.

525
00:35:53,040 --> 00:36:00,320
And again, maybe I'm just over blowing this, but like it is, I think because if you do

526
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:08,400
the augmented reality and you're able to see what's around you with just little parts being

527
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:18,560
inserted that are not, then whenever you go fully into virtual reality, it's a little

528
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,120
bit what just happened?

529
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,800
This is so cool.

530
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,480
And it's definitely limited.

531
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,200
There's all kinds of glitchiness when it comes to, and again, I realize this is what I'm

532
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:41,400
talking about is the meta quest and it's the three, so this is not their first or second

533
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:47,280
delve into this and Oculus being part of that.

534
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:59,080
But the idea that it has already improved and it's still got these parts of it that

535
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:07,280
feel because it feels so expansive because you can be in a different world or a different

536
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,940
setting or anything like that.

537
00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:16,800
But then as you're walking around the room, you realize, oh, no, can't go that far.

538
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,320
That's not part of this tour.

539
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,960
The world has ended.

540
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,600
The world has ended.

541
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,600
That's very fake.

542
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:30,880
I mean, there's just, there's parts of it like that, that, I mean, even I did, it was

543
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,880
funny.

544
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:37,200
I actually was expecting to be disappointed by moving myself with a, like if you get up

545
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:45,280
and you can walk some, but you're in a room with your couches and end table and if you

546
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,960
walk too much, you're going to hurt yourself.

547
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,960
Yeah.

548
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,720
You don't want to be the person in the YouTube video that walks into their TV.

549
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:52,720
Oh man.

550
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:59,360
I mean, part of it is just loving watching all of the, like people freak out with these

551
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,240
headsets on and then just, there's a lot of humor involved with that.

552
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:05,240
Yes.

553
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:10,440
Um, but it was, I mean, it was really, I thought I was going to be disappointed by using like

554
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:17,560
my controller or my hand to move me and then whatever, but that's actually kind of nice

555
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,560
to be honest with you.

556
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:25,520
I mean, not to be too much of the fatty on the couch, but like, it's great to not have

557
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,240
to move around that much, but to just be able to say like, no, I want to go check that out.

558
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:34,280
So I'm going to move my point of view over there.

559
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,560
Yeah.

560
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,600
That's not bad.

561
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,760
The limitations of it.

562
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:48,400
I think, you know, we're, it seems like we're as limited today as it's ever going to be.

563
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,600
And that who was saying that about, Oh, Chad was saying that about AI.

564
00:38:52,600 --> 00:39:00,120
I think he was quoting Marquez Brownlee and was saying that AI is the worst today that

565
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,200
it ever will be.

566
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:07,720
Um, meaning like it's, it's not the worst that it ever has been, it's, it's only gonna

567
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:16,640
get better because it keeps learning on itself in that like fluid nature of it.

568
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:22,160
I see you juggling in your head the like, well, I think this is where some of the realities

569
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:28,160
of it, I'm going to be probably your polar opposite here.

570
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:37,440
I am bearish on virtual reality bearish and not bullish on augmented reality.

571
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:43,360
And I think that what we're currently calling AI is an absolute joke.

572
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,240
It's smoke and mirrors.

573
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:49,880
It is neural networks as we've discussed.

574
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,800
It is fast retrieval of data from a database.

575
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,800
Yes.

576
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:02,320
And I think I, so I guess I'm, I'm just kind of, uh, you don't think they're going to take

577
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,320
over?

578
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,320
I know.

579
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,920
No, you don't think they're going to take over and turn us all into the fat guys in

580
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,160
the wheelchair because we're too stupid to develop such a system with the headsets on

581
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,640
now and the like, yeah.

582
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,200
I mean, you saw Wally, right?

583
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,600
Yeah, we're not going to be the people.

584
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Well, we're going to turn into the, what the people look like in Wall-E if we don't turn

585
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,320
around as a society.

586
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,440
But yeah, I don't see us developing Skynet.

587
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,560
No.

588
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,880
We know we just don't have those capabilities.

589
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,880
Yeah.

590
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:36,680
But it is amazing to me how fast it can retrieve data that I, I'm just impressed by AI.

591
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,880
I don't see it as smoke and mirrors.

592
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,880
I think I just see it as not what everybody is afraid of.

593
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,880
Correct.

594
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:49,100
But I guess when I say smoke and mirrors, I don't calling it AI to me, that's a misnomer.

595
00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:50,100
This is not AI.

596
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:57,200
Now I maybe have a more narrow definition of AI like we are previously discussed.

597
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,200
Right.

598
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:03,480
You know, if I train this model on football and suddenly it starts teaching me tennis.

599
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,480
Okay.

600
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,480
How'd we get there?

601
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,480
Yeah.

602
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,480
Because I didn't train you on that.

603
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,840
How did you figure all this out?

604
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,520
Another example that we threw out was Johnny five, Johnny five.

605
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,040
That would be an extreme example of AI.

606
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,640
This was just a simple robot and now he's going completely static electricity.

607
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,640
Lightning strike.

608
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,400
Well, I'm just saying at the end.

609
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,400
Yes.

610
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,400
Well, yes.

611
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:33,520
So, so yeah, I probably have a purist definition of AI and that's why I say smoke and mirrors.

612
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:41,960
Well, because it was like, again, if we, if we go back to movies, like we, we don't have

613
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:42,960
hover boards.

614
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:43,960
No.

615
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,120
We have one wheels and that's pretty cool.

616
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,120
Yeah.

617
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:55,040
And it can feel like a hover board because it's, it's got that floatiness to it.

618
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Sure.

619
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:01,800
And there's a motor in the middle of it that I'm not, I'm not sticking my foot off this

620
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,180
thing and kicking.

621
00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:05,280
It is moving by itself.

622
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,920
Like this, this is incredible.

623
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:15,360
Now if they come out with the one wheel and they call it a hover board, like they did

624
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,080
with that one thing that we're not going to talk about.

625
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,120
And those had two wheels.

626
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,120
And those had two wheels.

627
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,480
Yes, they did.

628
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,920
And there was nothing hover about them.

629
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,720
You were on your butt immediately.

630
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:26,720
Correct.

631
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:28,640
No, I'm just kidding.

632
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,440
But I was on my butt immediately.

633
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,920
I just mean like, it's like they came out with the one wheel and said, look, it's the

634
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,920
hover board.

635
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:46,760
And it's like, no, you, the AI that we've always talked about is the like, you know,

636
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,920
iRobot like AI.

637
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,920
Yes.

638
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,480
And this is not that.

639
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,480
No.

640
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,960
I see what you mean by smoke and mirrors in that, in that realm of things.

641
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,960
Yes.

642
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:09,040
It's incredible how many computations and how many, how fast it can retrieve data from

643
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,560
things that I don't want to read.

644
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:11,560
Sure.

645
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,560
Absolutely.

646
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,560
You want it to write you a paper.

647
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,560
You're good.

648
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,560
You're golden.

649
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,520
You want it, you want it to throw back research to you on a subject.

650
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,520
You get it.

651
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:26,140
If you want it to literally write you a book or a movie script, lights out.

652
00:43:26,140 --> 00:43:33,680
And some of this large language model does feel like magic because it takes so much brain

653
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:39,520
power for us to do abstract writing.

654
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,680
Yes.

655
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:47,600
The other thing that's just not going to be sustainable in my opinion, short of them figuring

656
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:56,840
something out is the power needed to run these data centers that's taking, it's doing the

657
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,480
AI, so-called AI, I'll say.

658
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,200
You essentially almost need your own dedicated power plant.

659
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:10,160
And that's why they're looking at bringing online nuclear power plants or just straight

660
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,800
up developing their own power plant dedicated only to that data center.

661
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,600
Just because of how much resources that it needs to consume to do that.

662
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:27,240
So to me, this is where the left and the grainy should be against AI, but they don't seem

663
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:28,240
to care.

664
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:29,240
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

665
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:31,240
See, that's the thing though is like, again, this is not going to, we're not going to go

666
00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:37,320
political here, but I would advise everyone to pay attention to some of the deals that

667
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,240
are being made that you think like that's not that big of a deal.

668
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:46,960
No, that's a very big deal because I think that's going to matter.

669
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:59,600
And the people who are now in the United States government, or at least are involved in the

670
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:06,720
decision making that's happening right now at a certain executive level, they're going

671
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:11,520
to push for certain things because they know that it's necessary for the infrastructure

672
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,520
of what is about to come.

673
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Because they're running numbers that the rest of us don't know need to be run.

674
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,720
Anyway, there's just things that I think are really important that are happening that we

675
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:24,880
don't like everybody's complaining about or talking about in different ways.

676
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,160
And you're like, you don't understand.

677
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:36,520
I was explaining this about Elon Musk to a really good friend of mine who does not enjoy

678
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,880
a lot of the things that are happening right now.

679
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,720
And I'm not saying anybody should or anything like that.

680
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:53,960
But they were talking in kind of that bubble about how he's crazy and blah, blah, blah.

681
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:59,480
He's got billions of dollars and doesn't give any money to charities or doesn't give as

682
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,680
much, I don't know, like something like that.

683
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,200
I was like, there's no way that you would know what he was giving money to.

684
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:12,680
But like you're comparing him to Bill Gates, Bill Gates has done the stuff that he's going

685
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,680
to do.

686
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,840
And now he's got all this money that he's investing in the ways that he feels like are

687
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,840
really important to make the change that he needs to make.

688
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:27,480
Elon Musk has never been shy about saying the kind of crazy that he is, which is, I think

689
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:33,480
we need to go to Mars, and that's going to take all of the resources that we have.

690
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:42,400
And so every single dollar that he accumulates is going to be in the pursuit of this bigger

691
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,700
idea.

692
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:50,240
And if he's got that kind of drive, then you can bet when he sees things that are necessary

693
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:56,840
to get there, he's going to make harder decisions.

694
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,840
Sure.

695
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:03,360
Or try to get people to make harder decisions if we want to be super specific about it in

696
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,920
order to make that stuff happen.

697
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,240
Again, love it or hate it, I don't care.

698
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:13,440
I'm just telling you what I'm seeing.

699
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,360
And that was very political for this.

700
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,360
It was.

701
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,360
And are you proud of me?

702
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,600
I didn't get on my Bill Gates soapbox.

703
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,600
You didn't.

704
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,800
I said his name and I was like, oh, oh, I could have gone there.

705
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,240
Maybe another show.

706
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:32,720
Maybe or maybe three more of these beers.

707
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:36,120
This is number two, just for those out there wondering what that was.

708
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:43,560
This is the Founders dirty B. I probably should read the blurb just because.

709
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,400
Yeah, we read the other ones.

710
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,400
Yes.

711
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,680
The beer that puts us on the map.

712
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,960
Dark Ruby in color.

713
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,240
Ruby in color.

714
00:47:53,240 --> 00:48:02,920
Ruby B trying to make it a kid friendly show is complex and finish with rich notes of caramel

715
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:03,920
and dried fruits.

716
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,400
Okay, we'll see what I think about that.

717
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,840
A multi sweetness paired with a right hook.

718
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,520
Oh, watch out, Mike Tyson.

719
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,520
Easy.

720
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,240
Of hot power.

721
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:19,120
Give this scotch style L the attitude that its namesake implies.

722
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,120
Attitude.

723
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Attitude.

724
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,120
There you go.

725
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:36,000
I do think the power thing, though, going back to that, that is a real threat to the

726
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,880
AI data centers.

727
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,520
They've got to figure this out.

728
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,520
Yeah.

729
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,960
Because I mean, as it is now, we already run into scenarios to where they have to ask people

730
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:51,160
not to charge their Tesla cars because there's not enough power in the grid.

731
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,920
It's only going to get worse as we bring on more and more of these data centers.

732
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,600
They're going to have to figure this out or you need a monumental leap in compute to not

733
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,680
require as much power.

734
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:09,320
And again, I think that there's significant investment that needs to happen in these areas

735
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,740
that are they're not being shy about it.

736
00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:17,120
Whether or not you're seeing it as that is a different thing.

737
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,880
And that's all politically motivated.

738
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:19,880
Sure.

739
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,960
Whether or not they tell you or they don't.

740
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:30,560
OK, so just looking, I mean, I got to tell you that when the one of the things that I

741
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,160
love when Apple comes out with a product, love it or hate it.

742
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,160
What's up?

743
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,160
That's good.

744
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:43,220
Well, yeah, but you're saying like better than you remember.

745
00:49:43,220 --> 00:49:44,220
Maybe I've never had this one.

746
00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:45,220
I thought I had.

747
00:49:45,220 --> 00:49:47,280
You've had that one.

748
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,760
We've talked about it before.

749
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,040
But that flavor is not what I was expecting.

750
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,360
No, is it just because it's right after the breakfast out?

751
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,640
Maybe second beer, second beer always tastes better.

752
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,480
Oh, my goodness is amazing.

753
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,920
I mean, that was like I guess for me, it's the smoothness.

754
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,720
It was like there is no bite at all.

755
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:12,720
Interesting.

756
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:14,760
That was like smooth, smooth, very smooth.

757
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,760
All right.

758
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,200
I don't think I remember it that closely, but there you go.

759
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,200
We've been derailed.

760
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,200
Let's get back on.

761
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,200
No, it's great.

762
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,000
We're not derailed by beer.

763
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,800
It's the first one in the show.

764
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,800
True.

765
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:28,800
Very true.

766
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,400
It's not gear and beer, man.

767
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,400
It's beer and gear.

768
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,400
Beer and gear.

769
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,400
Get our priorities right.

770
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,560
We did think about gear and beer because beer and gear already was a thing.

771
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,440
But anyway, can't do that.

772
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,600
That's not alphabetically correct.

773
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,520
So what love it or hate it.

774
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:54,200
When Apple develops a product and then releases it, you know, it's the first that's ever.

775
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,200
It's the best thing ever.

776
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,760
And it's the best that it's ever, you know, best, best one, first one, all of the things.

777
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:00,760
Beautiful.

778
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,400
Well, I'm going to cross the strings here a little bit.

779
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,400
Beautiful.

780
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,400
It's amazing.

781
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,760
The best thing ever.

782
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:08,760
Huge.

783
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,760
It's really huge.

784
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:10,760
You can love it.

785
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,440
There's never been anything better.

786
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,440
Never been better.

787
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:20,040
I mean, it's it's kind of funny how much these like they would hate that.

788
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,080
And also they talk very similar.

789
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,080
Yes.

790
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:28,880
And there are some amazing compilations on YouTube of people who have just cut out those

791
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,840
portions of the Apple shows.

792
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,840
Nice.

793
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,920
And it's like two to three minutes of them just going amazing, beautiful, spectacular,

794
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,760
beautiful, amazing.

795
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:38,760
Just works.

796
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,760
It just works.

797
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,840
I mean, all anyway, there's just so much there.

798
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:50,400
But whenever they come out with a product, especially one that is relatively new or a,

799
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:56,320
you know, implementing a technology inside of already existing product or anything like

800
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:09,620
that, yes, when they do their version of innovation, I'm trying not to just give you

801
00:52:09,620 --> 00:52:18,080
all of the fodder here, but it brings a lot of like it brings the smoke.

802
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:26,080
Like it brings a lot of the eyes of people that aren't looking at, you know, I think

803
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:34,000
a lot of people had walked by maybe an Oculus Quest in a Best Buy and thought, yeah, that'd

804
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,000
be cool.

805
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,000
But like whatever.

806
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,000
Yeah.

807
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:43,040
So, OK, Apple's now making the Vision Pro and now.

808
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,720
Oh, I mean, like there's no way I can buy that.

809
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:51,080
But hey, there's these others that are out there that are affordable.

810
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,080
Sure.

811
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,120
And now it's they were making the Vision.

812
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,360
Yeah, I saw that.

813
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:04,280
I haven't I haven't seen them back that up.

814
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,240
Like they haven't like released a like you.

815
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:10,480
This is done.

816
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:18,480
But you can get a Vision Pro 256 for thirty five hundred, which seems like it's not what

817
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,040
it was.

818
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:28,120
On the old Apple website.

819
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:34,600
So it looks like the most recent article about that is it's now claiming Apple is slowing

820
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,440
down Vision Pro production.

821
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,440
Right.

822
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:45,520
Because the the what is unmistakable is that there was not as big of a market for it as

823
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,520
they were expecting.

824
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:49,680
You bring that price tag.

825
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,680
You've got to know.

826
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,000
I mean, no, they don't.

827
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:59,960
Chris, I man like I again like I use Apple products every day.

828
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:06,440
But the fact that they think a stand for a monitor should cost a thousand dollars, that

829
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:14,320
is classic Apple that wheels for their desktop should cost five hundred dollars or six hundred

830
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,920
dollars or whatever it was.

831
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,920
I know.

832
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:26,360
But see, but I look at like they like they just quietly refresh some devices and you

833
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:32,640
can actually get although it was just a new color, not so much a new device, whereas the

834
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:37,640
air iPad is the one that just quietly got bumped to the end three.

835
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:44,360
But the air laptop is also in three.

836
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,600
But it starts at a thousand dollars and that's with 16 gigs of RAM.

837
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,920
That's not eight gigs of RAM anymore.

838
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,680
Now it is a 256 solid state, which is a little small than I would prefer.

839
00:54:53,680 --> 00:55:01,480
But the fact that I can buy that much power for a thousand dollars, they've got to understand

840
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:06,480
in some degrees, it's like they understand where they need to be price wise for that.

841
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,880
But they just totally missed the boat on the VR headset.

842
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:15,720
Well, I mean, part of it is they like they they've got this idea and and I would say

843
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:27,560
you can see the same mistake in the.

844
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,320
What do they call the over the ear?

845
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,480
Oh, the headphones that you have AirPods Pro.

846
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,120
No, it's air.

847
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,560
Yeah, it's like AirPods, AirPods Max.

848
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,080
Shouldn't shouldn't have the word pod in it.

849
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,760
Nothing pod about these things.

850
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,400
They are big and heavy.

851
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,720
AirPod Max Pro, of course.

852
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,160
But it is AirPods Max.

853
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,600
AirPods Max.

854
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,840
They made the same mistake with the headset or with the VR headset, whatever you want

855
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:03,560
to call it with the Vision Pro as they did with the AirPods Max, which is they they over

856
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,840
engineered this thing.

857
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:16,040
And somebody has their ear saying like, well, it's a wearable, so it needs to be like really.

858
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:21,040
You know.

859
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,040
Well made.

860
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,400
And I don't don't hear me saying like, I don't want it to be well made.

861
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,000
I want it to be well made.

862
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,480
But you don't have to make everything out of machined aluminum.

863
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,680
No, like.

864
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,480
The fact that this like they put all of that.

865
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:46,880
Time and energy into the technology that makes your eyes appear on this glass screen in the

866
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,320
front of this thing.

867
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,320
Yeah.

868
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,680
I think it's really cool.

869
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,720
But oh my gosh, that person should have been fired.

870
00:56:54,720 --> 00:57:00,800
That could have been a thousand dollars cheaper and way less heavy.

871
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,800
Yeah.

872
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,280
Which is part of the problem.

873
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,720
Like you.

874
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:15,240
I will say one of the things that I am loving about the quest is is that I can actually

875
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:21,040
kind of forget about it for a while now, even with.

876
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:26,200
As light as it is like or, you know, as not front heavy as it is in the way that it sits

877
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,200
on my face.

878
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:33,240
I took it off the other day and my son made fun of me because of the like goggle marks

879
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,440
around my eyes.

880
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:41,560
I had been wearing it for probably 45 minutes because I was watching a TV show.

881
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,200
I was watching a TV show on mine.

882
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:46,480
Was it at least a sports show?

883
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,520
No, it was Daredevil.

884
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,280
Oh, the new.

885
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,280
Yeah.

886
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,280
OK.

887
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,400
I haven't I don't have Disney, so I'm out of that.

888
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,600
But I have children trying to tempt me back.

889
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,440
I'm just saying there's some some of these things are really good.

890
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,440
Some of them are terrible.

891
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:10,400
Because the idea of watching sports, because as it is, my teams are.

892
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,600
On the other side of the country, so it's not like I can easily go watch them.

893
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:16,600
No.

894
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:21,920
So but to be able to put that on and to feel like you are immersed in the game.

895
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,160
Yeah, that is a little bit intriguing to me.

896
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,480
Yeah.

897
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,920
Not that I'm in the market for a headset.

898
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,360
No, but it's still it's intriguing that you could literally sit there and have the

899
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:38,200
potential view from court side and watching the game.

900
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,360
That's totally intriguing to me.

901
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,120
And it feels like you would be immersed in a giant TV.

902
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,960
Yeah, I love I love the idea of that.

903
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,120
But that's exactly what it's like, because I'm sitting on my couch and, you know, if

904
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,780
I do the.

905
00:58:52,780 --> 00:58:59,000
If I do the like I'm just sitting here watching and we call it pass through.

906
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,960
I think that's actually what everybody calls it.

907
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:01,960
Yeah.

908
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:09,560
So and I never went on like Kleenex Kleenex or Xerox these things.

909
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:15,680
I don't I'm not sure exactly when I'm saying something that's proprietary or share.

910
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,680
Whatever speak.

911
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:21,120
But the the idea that like when you're when you're doing this pass through mode and you

912
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:28,600
can see everything around you and the screens can be a certain size, they're still like

913
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,680
you can bring them pretty close to you and they're still very clear and very big.

914
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:33,680
Yeah.

915
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,200
But then you can go into these virtual places and you can like make that thing wall sized

916
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:44,840
and curved and like to where you are turning your head like you're on the front row of

917
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,280
the movie theater.

918
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:47,520
Yeah.

919
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,880
To watch the whole thing happening.

920
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,680
That's really neat.

921
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:58,560
And, you know, like angling stuff like there's just you can really sit on your bed.

922
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:03,240
And make this thing pretty awesome.

923
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,640
I think if I sitting on the bed wearing those, my wife would smack me upside the head.

924
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:13,240
Well, you just got to do when your wife's not doing or doing something else.

925
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,240
I look like an idiot.

926
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,440
I know I look like an idiot.

927
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:17,760
But this is happening right now.

928
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,120
So I think I found the set that Garrett has.

929
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,120
Okay.

930
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,440
He has what I believe is the meta quest to.

931
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,440
Okay.

932
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,240
But it doesn't have the pass through.

933
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:31,200
No, because it didn't have the didn't have the additional camera and all of that.

934
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,000
So it did have the sensors on the bottom, right?

935
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,000
Yes.

936
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,960
And it has the double hand controllers.

937
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:39,960
Yes.

938
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:40,960
He absolutely loves it.

939
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,960
Yeah.

940
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,120
You know, and I thought, okay, this is going to be intriguing.

941
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,640
I want to do a lightsaber duel and it's fun.

942
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,640
Yeah.

943
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:55,120
But that haptic feedback, that's no.

944
01:00:55,120 --> 01:01:02,800
I would almost rather have him and me with a machine going at it.

945
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,480
And that feels more like, oh yeah, this is good.

946
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:06,480
This is this is good.

947
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,480
Yeah.

948
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,480
And I get it.

949
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:09,480
And again, it was fun.

950
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,480
Don't get me wrong.

951
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:11,480
Yeah.

952
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:12,480
But you got to take it for what it is.

953
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:13,480
Yes.

954
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,760
There's so many limiting factors to it right now.

955
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,760
Yeah.

956
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,540
And maybe in the future changes and it's amazing.

957
01:01:19,540 --> 01:01:25,280
But part of me also really struggles with I live in the world.

958
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,520
Why do I want to live in a virtual world?

959
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:28,520
Yeah.

960
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:34,400
I think probably I want to live in a virtual world sometimes because my world is really

961
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,000
messy.

962
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,920
And all of these virtual worlds are very clean.

963
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:39,920
Yeah.

964
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,920
Very sterile.

965
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:41,920
Yeah.

966
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:48,320
And I think, again, like with any technology, you could disappear into it and you can hide

967
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,880
and you can do whatever.

968
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:57,360
And I'm so grateful for battery life not being great in that realm.

969
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:03,240
Like, it's very nice to have to be like, no, got to put it down because it's dying.

970
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,760
And so I haven't done the like big battery attachment or anything like that.

971
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,280
You don't want to turn into one of these.

972
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:11,280
What was that?

973
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,600
Was it Second Life?

974
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,480
With some of the online stuff, you don't want to be one of those people.

975
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:21,720
You don't want to be one of these World of Warcraft people that you just kind of start

976
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:26,080
playing the game and next thing you know, six hours have gone by.

977
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,080
Yeah.

978
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,080
But you know, after buying it, then you're looking at all of these different ones that

979
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,320
have been made or that are coming out.

980
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:38,600
And you've got like the you've got the Oculus being one of the first that I remember.

981
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:39,600
Yes.

982
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,280
At least being consumer wise.

983
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,640
But now you've got everything from like the PlayStation has a VR.

984
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:46,760
Yes, the attachment.

985
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,000
Now you still I think on that one, you still have to own the PlayStation.

986
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,000
You do.

987
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,880
It has to be and it has to connect to it.

988
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:53,880
Yes.

989
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:54,880
Which I think is a bummer.

990
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,360
Like I had somebody tell me like, oh, I definitely would have gotten the PlayStation one over.

991
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,680
I was like, well, I don't have a PlayStation.

992
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,880
So I would have had to buy the PlayStation and it correct.

993
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:05,880
Not fun.

994
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:11,000
Well, I want to do a call out to the what was my first exposure to VR.

995
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:16,600
Although by today's standards, it's not virtual reality and that is the Nintendo Virtual Boy.

996
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,360
Do you did you have any exposure to that?

997
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,360
Hold on.

998
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,880
That sounds really familiar.

999
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,880
What is that?

1000
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:30,200
That is the it was the red headset essentially on the tripod with the controller.

1001
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,400
Man, I wanted one of those so bad.

1002
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,920
So my buddy had one.

1003
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:34,920
OK.

1004
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,920
And you got to play around with it at the time.

1005
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:36,920
Like this is amazing.

1006
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:37,920
Yeah.

1007
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,600
And then you look at it now and you're like, that was trash.

1008
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,200
That's pretty pretty dweeby there.

1009
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:48,440
And it doesn't even remotely come close to the true definition of virtual reality.

1010
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,200
But that was absolutely amazing.

1011
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,200
So yeah.

1012
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:56,400
So for me, it was the Virtual Boy and then it was the movie Lawnmower Man and Lawnmower

1013
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:04,200
Man just blew me away, especially with the concept of he could take this guy who was

1014
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,960
mentally.

1015
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,520
You know, polite way of saying it, he was just dumb as a box of rocks.

1016
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:12,520
What?

1017
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:17,160
And he used the VR to help him to become more intelligent.

1018
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,160
I love the concept.

1019
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,160
I love the idea of it.

1020
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,640
I don't know that we'll ever get there.

1021
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,000
Wouldn't that be nice?

1022
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:27,240
I do like there's a lot of like, oh, well, you can use this mediquist for training and

1023
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,240
stuff like that.

1024
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,760
And there was part of me that was like.

1025
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,120
OK, it was way more entertaining than reading a book.

1026
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,360
Don't get me wrong.

1027
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:36,360
Yeah.

1028
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:40,280
But I'm going to be training in any kind of functional way.

1029
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,520
Correct.

1030
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:46,720
You're vastly over.

1031
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,200
Selling how well it reads what my hands are doing.

1032
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:51,200
Yes.

1033
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,320
I mean, it's like, oh, you can use your hands to like manipulate the windows.

1034
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,320
I'm like, yeah, sometimes.

1035
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,880
I mean, for some reason, it looks at my hand sometimes and it's like, I don't know what

1036
01:04:58,880 --> 01:04:59,880
that is.

1037
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:01,440
Are you bringing your fingers together?

1038
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:02,920
Because I don't know if you are or not.

1039
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,440
And I'm like, it does it so well.

1040
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,800
And then all of a sudden, it's like, I have no idea.

1041
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:08,800
Yeah.

1042
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,360
And it feels like that's all about lighting, which is great.

1043
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:12,360
Yes.

1044
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:13,560
Like, I don't have a problem with that.

1045
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,240
But like.

1046
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,600
Lighting is critical for those cameras to function properly.

1047
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:19,600
Yeah.

1048
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,240
I mean, Microsoft proved that.

1049
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,240
Wow.

1050
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,240
I remember that.

1051
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,200
And I can't think of the name of the.

1052
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,680
Their little camera system that went on to the Xbox.

1053
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,560
I can see what you're talking about.

1054
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:39,400
Unfortunately, due to the way that the camera function, if you had a darker complexion,

1055
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:40,400
you couldn't use it.

1056
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,400
No, because it couldn't.

1057
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,200
It couldn't handle that.

1058
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,820
I mean, so lighting in all these things is absolutely critical.

1059
01:05:46,820 --> 01:05:48,920
Talk about just a butt kicker.

1060
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,000
Ouch.

1061
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,000
That hurt.

1062
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,000
Yeah.

1063
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,000
OK.

1064
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:58,560
But like, I also wanted to mention really briefly as we're wrapping up here, like this

1065
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,120
is not just like in my mind, it's not just this.

1066
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:07,520
Like it's the fact that this is one of those technologies that is we're starting to see

1067
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:13,960
because of the way that people are are are being able to do this micro screen.

1068
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,120
I don't even know if that's what you want to call it.

1069
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:22,000
But like this, this idea that you don't actually have to have an enormous screen as long as

1070
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:27,880
you can put it close enough to the eye where you are immersed in it.

1071
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,920
Sure.

1072
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:34,600
I'm obviously talking then about like the augmented reality glasses.

1073
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:35,600
Yes.

1074
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:40,360
And, you know, Google Glass.

1075
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,360
They tried.

1076
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,320
That was it was it was a good like bless your heart.

1077
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,240
Bless your heart moment.

1078
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:51,200
But like, I mean, even again with Meta and Ray Ban, like them, them trying to figure

1079
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,520
out like, OK, so if we do it this way, is this good enough?

1080
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,500
And now there's a whole bunch that just got released or promised to release this year

1081
01:06:59,500 --> 01:07:10,240
that are actually doing like this tiny projection on the screen of or on the lens of glasses

1082
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,400
that is giving you information like a HUD.

1083
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:14,400
Yep.

1084
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:19,400
Which who doesn't want to HUD like I played Halo.

1085
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,560
Man, I want to HUD.

1086
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:27,960
Yeah, I want I want the Tony Stark like heads up display.

1087
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:33,680
Yes, in all of my life, I want to be able to give information immediately.

1088
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:38,600
Yeah, I want augmented reality to win.

1089
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:46,120
Yeah, because the where I see I mean, just simple examples that to me, I would love to

1090
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:54,560
enjoy is whether I go to a museum or I go to a NASA facility or wherever I may be at.

1091
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:58,640
Yeah, yeah, I can pay for the tour and I can go with the group and I can listen to the

1092
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:03,520
person has to say and get the little bits and pieces that they can get in there amongst

1093
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,520
all of the interruption.

1094
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:13,520
Whereas if I could put on some head some glasses and either use my earbuds or whatever comes

1095
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:14,600
with it.

1096
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,860
And now I can take my time.

1097
01:08:16,860 --> 01:08:23,400
I can linger around and it can give me all of this information visually and audibly.

1098
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,600
And it's drilled in on what I'm looking at.

1099
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,920
And I only have to look at the pieces that I'm interested in and get all that extra detail

1100
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,160
and all that extra information.

1101
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,160
I love I love that.

1102
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:42,440
Absolutely love that was a JBL or Bose that also did the like, headphone sunglasses to

1103
01:08:42,440 --> 01:08:44,720
I can't remember one of them.

1104
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,200
The ones that rested on the bone and no, that's jawbone.

1105
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:49,200
Okay.

1106
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,000
I think that's jawbone.

1107
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:55,920
These were like just glasses and they had a speaker in the arm of the glasses.

1108
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:03,880
I mean like the I think the now the Meta Ray bands just said the when they first came out,

1109
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:04,880
they just had the camera.

1110
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,760
Yeah, I don't think they had a speaker.

1111
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:11,520
They may now anyway, JBL or Bose one of the two and I'm leaning towards Bose.

1112
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,040
So forgive me if I'm wrong.

1113
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,880
Again, this is stuff that should have been in the show notes before I started talking.

1114
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:25,200
They they have these they made these glasses a few years back that had the speaker in the

1115
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,120
arm and it's pointed at your ear.

1116
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,840
And of course, like that makes sense because the arm of your glasses knows where your ear

1117
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:40,120
is like that's that's like the entire purpose of what they do or not the entire purpose

1118
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:44,360
but like one of the essential qualities of what they do is being able to rest on your

1119
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,760
ears go.

1120
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,320
Bose and JBL have glasses for audio.

1121
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:57,400
Okay, so I think I think it was Bose first but it may have been I don't know the the

1122
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:02,280
Bose if you remember them look like the old Oakley Frogskins.

1123
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:10,400
Yeah, the rectangular glasses and let me go back to the JBL JBL has that same that same

1124
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,760
look did the is the Bose called like tempo or something like that.

1125
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:25,480
Let's see the JBL is the sound gear frames and the earpieces are not very pretty.

1126
01:10:25,480 --> 01:10:26,480
Their earpieces.

1127
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:29,880
Yeah, the as far as the ear stems that go back because of all the equipment.

1128
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,880
Oh, they're just thick.

1129
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,960
Yeah, and you can in their seat through so you can see all the stuff.

1130
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,480
I don't need to see those.

1131
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:43,320
And then for Bose, what are you they are the Bose frames tenor tenor.

1132
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:49,120
Oh, that's a very gaudy looking earpiece.

1133
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:54,800
As far as whatever you want to call that the stem that goes back starts already wide and

1134
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,400
then it really gets wide.

1135
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:57,400
Yeah.

1136
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,800
So I mean, it's one of those things that I do think like there's there's some improvement

1137
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:06,120
that can happen with with the size of the technology but actually wearing them and listening

1138
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:07,120
to them.

1139
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,400
I was not disappointed.

1140
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,520
And I'm like, yeah, well, of course, that would need to be a little bit bigger.

1141
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:16,400
In my line of work, driver size really matters.

1142
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:17,400
It matters.

1143
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:18,400
Yes, it does.

1144
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,880
So all that driver size and number.

1145
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:32,640
Anyway, all that to say, like, there's some really cool, you know, I don't I don't I was

1146
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,500
I was impressed with even that because it didn't seem like when I took them off and

1147
01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:42,600
held them beside me that I could hear them as well as I expected to is about the same

1148
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:47,000
volume as, you know, when we used to have the over the ear fluffy headphones and you

1149
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,760
could hear what your buddy was listening to.

1150
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,480
But it wasn't like distracting.

1151
01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:51,480
Sure.

1152
01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:56,860
Now, you would think from the way that my son talks that any anytime somebody chews,

1153
01:11:56,860 --> 01:11:58,140
it's distracting.

1154
01:11:58,140 --> 01:12:00,760
But if they're smacking, I agree.

1155
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:06,240
I just like there's a lot to be desired for the like, you got to let it roll off of you,

1156
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,240
right?

1157
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:11,360
We just have no tolerance for anybody else anymore right now.

1158
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,960
But all of that to say again, like that that that world where you could be wearing sunglasses

1159
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:22,640
and listening to your AI, which is feeding you information that you don't have to go

1160
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:28,660
research, it's found the pertinent information because it's tracking your eye.

1161
01:12:28,660 --> 01:12:33,200
It knows what you're looking at and it can give you information about that thing.

1162
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:40,720
Like that is a really attractive world to me.

1163
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:46,080
All I'm saying about the VR is that I was more impressed with it than I thought I was

1164
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,080
going to be.

1165
01:12:47,080 --> 01:13:04,920
Not in terms of not in terms of on the parts of the quest that I've seen, even like it

1166
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:09,880
looking lifelike or anything like that.

1167
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,480
That's neither here nor there.

1168
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:22,600
Like in my mind, it's it is what it's like to all of a sudden be surrounded by not where

1169
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:33,240
you are and and how it didn't feel like I was looking through a like a viewfinder to

1170
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:34,240
get there.

1171
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:39,560
Yeah, you know, it was it really does feel like you are right there.

1172
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,200
And you're not like tunnel visioning to see it.

1173
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:49,000
You're not like like it really does take up all of that real estate for you.

1174
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:57,520
And because of that, like you're it just does something to your brain.

1175
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,680
Now what I would love to see inside of that is this like there's actually an on YouTube,

1176
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:11,000
you can go to YouTube inside of the headset and look up 360 videos and 360 like experiences

1177
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,000
and stuff like that.

1178
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,600
And I mean, I could do this.

1179
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:17,640
You have a 360 cam, which I do.

1180
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:25,440
And you put it in the middle of a river in a beautiful scenic location and you hit record

1181
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:28,000
and then you get out of there.

1182
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:33,800
And it's just going to record like that 360 and you can stand in the middle of the river

1183
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:39,240
and look in any direction that you want and listen to the sound of the river.

1184
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,360
Listen to the stream that makes you need to go to the bathroom.

1185
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:46,840
OK, don't do that because then if you get stuck and you forget that you're wearing the

1186
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:51,360
headset and then all of a sudden you just let it go in the stream here peeing on the

1187
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,960
dog.

1188
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,080
My dog deserves to be peed on.

1189
01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:06,080
Oh, oh, anyway, I just think it's really a lot of opportunities coming up and it's fun

1190
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:11,800
to be able to like enjoy technology and not just work on it.

1191
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:12,800
Sure.

1192
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:13,800
Sure.

1193
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:19,200
I don't get a lot of time to play video games or anything like that, but getting to buy

1194
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:23,120
something that is solely for fun.

1195
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,120
That's pretty neat.

1196
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,960
Anyway, all right.

1197
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,480
What's our Jason Court message for the day?

1198
01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:32,960
Jason Court segment.

1199
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,440
You can come up with a jingle for this.

1200
01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:38,600
The Jason Court segment.

1201
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,040
Do do do do do.

1202
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:46,080
OK, so he sent us five hundred and fifty five sets.

1203
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:50,600
OK, and he says for the short circuit reference, we just made another.

1204
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,480
He's got to do it again.

1205
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:56,600
Johnny five and to help teach a I to donate to the show.

1206
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:57,960
That's what I'm talking about.

1207
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,400
That would be a great use of a I send this money.

1208
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,200
I come on, man.

1209
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:04,200
Yeah.

1210
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:05,200
Learn to send me money.

1211
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:06,200
Yes.

1212
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:07,200
Send me money.

1213
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,200
Send me sats.

1214
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,200
Killing it.

1215
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:10,200
That'd be amazing.

1216
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:11,200
Not going to happen.

1217
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:18,560
One of these days we're going to be able to buy a beer with these sats, though.

1218
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,680
Well, the problem is, we'll have to well, it depends on the bar.

1219
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:23,680
No, that's what I'm saying.

1220
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,360
So that would be intriguing.

1221
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,120
I think it's going to happen.

1222
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,720
That reminds that reminds me of something recent.

1223
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,440
I'm kind of going off script here.

1224
01:16:32,440 --> 01:16:33,440
Yeah.

1225
01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:36,880
On my personal favorite podcast, we had a script on this one.

1226
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:38,840
And we never technically never have a script.

1227
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,480
We have a we have a loose timeline.

1228
01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:42,480
You do a great job.

1229
01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:46,000
Well, so listening to no agenda.

1230
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:51,640
Adam Curry is talking about way back, probably 2012.

1231
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,200
Okay.

1232
01:16:53,200 --> 01:17:04,800
Maybe even 2010 when Satoshi's were or Bitcoin in general was next to nothing.

1233
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,280
And he was trying to figure out what is all this dark web.

1234
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,280
Yeah.

1235
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:15,200
And he used a handful of Bitcoin that he had.

1236
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,200
Sorry, children.

1237
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,320
He bought a dime bag with Bitcoin.

1238
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,600
And now he's recalling it here in 25.

1239
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,840
And he's going, what a horrible waste of that Bitcoin.

1240
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:27,840
Yeah.

1241
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,560
I should have just held on and wrote it through.

1242
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,960
Had no idea it would be worth that much money.

1243
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:34,960
Sure.

1244
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,880
At that point in time, nobody did the most expensive.

1245
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:38,880
Correct.

1246
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,960
Dime bag that's ever been purchased.

1247
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:41,960
Yes.

1248
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:48,360
I am personally on the record as saying Bitcoin is the new beanie baby.

1249
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:49,720
Don't touch it.

1250
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:50,720
Look at you.

1251
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,960
And I am horribly wrong.

1252
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,400
I admit it.

1253
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:00,560
Stretch that one on the list of investment opportunities that I missed.

1254
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:07,240
Well, I mean, I think there were a lot of people that were right there with you.

1255
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,240
Oh, oh, I know.

1256
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:09,240
I know.

1257
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,240
I wasn't the only one for sure.

1258
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:11,240
No.

1259
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:15,600
I mean, I look back and I go in the early 90s, I'm sitting there telling my mom and

1260
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,720
dad, you should be buying Microsoft stock.

1261
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:24,040
And it was like a couple bucks per share.

1262
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,680
And then late 90s it explodes.

1263
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,200
It technically exploded with 95.

1264
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:36,160
I didn't know how much value Nvidia had.

1265
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,440
Yes, they've really.

1266
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:40,440
But again, it's AI.

1267
01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:42,040
Yeah, because they're driving.

1268
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,440
They're the major supplier of AI chips.

1269
01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:45,440
That's what I'm saying.

1270
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:46,440
And it's like, what?

1271
01:18:46,440 --> 01:18:54,720
Yeah, because if the rug gets pulled out from underneath of AI, Nvidia is going to collapse.

1272
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,520
Their graphics cards aren't going to save them for that one.

1273
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,400
Well, no, their last few releases on the graphics cards, they're in trouble.

1274
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,800
Boy, are they in trouble.

1275
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,320
Well, it's because they're putting all their effort into another thing.

1276
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:10,040
Like that's again, there's so many times that I'm like, can we not abandon the things that

1277
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:14,080
we're good at when the new shiny thing comes along?

1278
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,080
Yep.

1279
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:20,880
I just need one of you morons to make a flip phone that is awesome.

1280
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:25,040
Yeah, there's not a good one out there.

1281
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:30,400
I mean, you've got the Samsung, which is the two different foldables.

1282
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,360
I don't want to like fold.

1283
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:33,360
Like I don't.

1284
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,320
I understand what they're spending their money on is making the foldable that does the thing

1285
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:38,800
that this one does.

1286
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,600
Like I get that.

1287
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:44,280
And I understand why and market share and all of that stuff.

1288
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:50,760
I mean, I want a dumb phone that is awesome.

1289
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:58,120
I want what I want and nothing else.

1290
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:02,760
The only thing that I would ask for in that flip phone is I still want a QWERTY keyboard.

1291
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,240
I mean, sure, that'd be nice, but like.

1292
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,040
Even if it was on screen, give me a QWERTY keyboard.

1293
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:16,800
I lost my need for a QWERTY keyboard when it stopped being.

1294
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:21,640
Like functional buttons when it wasn't the Blackberry anymore.

1295
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,640
I'm like, I mean, this is fine.

1296
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,480
It's faster and don't get me wrong.

1297
01:20:27,480 --> 01:20:30,820
Like I just hate texting anyway.

1298
01:20:30,820 --> 01:20:36,440
But the like I'm misspelling everything because I'm not actually touching a button here.

1299
01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:39,240
So text to speech didn't spell much better either.

1300
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,160
Oh my gosh.

1301
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,600
The number of times that I will say something and then look down and be like, that is not

1302
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,560
at all what I said.

1303
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:48,560
Correct.

1304
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,440
It's nice to hear that it's not just Siri because Siri is terrible.

1305
01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:55,200
And that's something AI should be able to fix.

1306
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,200
Oh yeah.

1307
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,680
And stop me from getting all the junk.

1308
01:20:58,680 --> 01:20:59,680
Oh yeah.

1309
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:05,640
When I'm borrowing on this, but when AI can stop me from getting all the spam.

1310
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:06,640
Yeah.

1311
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:07,640
You've achieved something.

1312
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:08,640
Yeah.

1313
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:09,640
Well done.

1314
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,440
Until then stay at it boys.

1315
01:21:12,440 --> 01:21:13,440
Yeah.

1316
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:17,360
Anyway, there's a lot.

1317
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:18,360
Always good to hang out, man.

1318
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:19,360
Enjoying.

1319
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:20,360
Yes.

1320
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:21,360
Yes.

1321
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,120
We've been keeping the street going.

1322
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:24,120
Thank you, Mr. Moore.

1323
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:25,120
Yes.

1324
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:26,120
Thank you, Michael.

1325
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:27,120
Appreciate it very much.

1326
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,360
You're welcome to do this anytime.

1327
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:30,480
The mood hits you.

1328
01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:31,480
Anybody is.

1329
01:21:31,480 --> 01:21:32,480
Absolutely.

1330
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:33,480
Yeah.

1331
01:21:33,480 --> 01:21:34,480
Australia, if you want to send us some.

1332
01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:35,480
Come on, Aussies.

1333
01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:36,480
Oh, boy.

1334
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:37,480
Oh, boy.

1335
01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:38,480
Oh, boy.

1336
01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:39,480
Seems like y'all would be in on this beer thing.

1337
01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:40,480
Just a little bit.

1338
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:41,480
Anyway.

1339
01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:42,480
All right.

1340
01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:43,480
All right.

1341
01:21:43,480 --> 01:21:44,480
See you everybody.

1342
01:21:44,480 --> 01:21:45,480
See you.

1343
01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:46,480
Holy moly.

1344
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:47,480
A great show.

1345
01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:48,480
Is it on?

1346
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:49,480
Yeah.

1347
01:21:49,480 --> 01:21:50,480
It's on.

1348
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:51,480
It's on.

1349
01:21:51,480 --> 01:21:52,480
It's on.

1350
01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:53,480
It's on.

1351
01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:54,480
It's on.

1352
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:55,480
It's on.

1353
01:21:55,480 --> 01:21:56,480
It's on.

1354
01:21:56,480 --> 01:21:57,480
It's on.

1355
01:21:57,480 --> 01:21:58,480
It's on.

1356
01:21:58,480 --> 01:21:59,480
It's on.

1357
01:21:59,480 --> 01:22:00,480
It's on.

1358
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:01,480
It's on.

1359
01:22:01,480 --> 01:22:02,480
It's on.

1360
01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:03,480
It's on.

1361
01:22:03,480 --> 01:22:04,480
It's on.

1362
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:05,480
It's on.

1363
01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:06,480
It's on.

1364
01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:07,480
It's on.

1365
01:22:07,480 --> 01:22:08,480
It's on.

1366
01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:09,480
It's on.

1367
01:22:09,480 --> 01:22:10,480
It's on.

1368
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:11,480
It's on.

1369
01:22:11,480 --> 01:22:12,480
It's on.

1370
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:13,480
It's on.

1371
01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:14,480
It's on.

1372
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:15,480
It's on.

1373
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:16,480
It's on.

1374
01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:17,480
It's on.

1375
01:22:17,480 --> 01:22:18,480
It's on.

1376
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:19,480
It's on.

1377
01:22:19,480 --> 01:22:20,480
It's on.

1378
01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:21,480
It's on.

1379
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:22,480
It's on.

1380
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:23,480
It's on.

1381
01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:24,480
It's on.

1382
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:25,480
It's on.

1383
01:22:25,480 --> 01:22:26,480
It's on.

1384
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:27,480
It's on.

1385
01:22:27,480 --> 01:22:28,480
It's on.

1386
01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:29,480
It's on.

1387
01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:30,480
It's on.

1388
01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:31,480
It's on.

1389
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:32,480
It's on.

1390
01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:33,480
It's on.