1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:18,360 ... 2 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:40,160 Hey, everybody. Welcome to beer and gear. This is a special AI edition. I'll be flying solo 3 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:46,740 for the show. What we have for you tonight is we took the transcript from our very first 4 00:00:46,740 --> 00:00:54,720 episode and we fed that into Google's notebook LM. From there, it created its own podcast 5 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:01,120 that is a summary of that very first show. And we definitely got some interesting results. 6 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:07,080 From there, we took the transcript of its creation, fed it back into itself, and got 7 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:13,880 a second summary of that is a summary of their summary. Again, interesting results. And then 8 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:20,360 we took one last time and fed it back in and got a third episode from them that is a summary 9 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:27,880 of the summary. And you'll have to wait and see what we got from that one. So sit back, 10 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:33,800 relax. Some of this will just be refresher. If you've been with us from the beginning, 11 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:40,640 if not, you may still find this enjoyable. And when we get to the end, I will give you 12 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:47,800 some insights on what they got right and what they got wrong. Welcome to a deep dive. We're 13 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:53,640 kicking things off with Beer and Gear, a brand new show. Oh, sounds intriguing. What's the 14 00:01:53,640 --> 00:02:01,200 focus? It's all about that awesome mix of tech and well, beer. So like gadgets and brews. 15 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,720 I'm in. You got it. And our guides for this deep dive, John Redferring and Chris Kincaid, 16 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,900 they worked together at Pine Cove, been friends forever. And well, they bring that awesome 17 00:02:10,900 --> 00:02:15,240 buddy energy to their shared love for all things tech. It's always cool to see how 18 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,960 friendships fuel passion projects. What's the format like? They're giving us the inside 19 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,920 scoop. We're talking origin stories in both beer and tech, a peek at their gear setups 20 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:28,820 and even a glimpse into their plans for the show. Like a behind the scenes look at how 21 00:02:28,820 --> 00:02:33,400 a podcast takes shape. Exactly. All right. Let's jump into episode one. And they kick 22 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,280 things off, fittingly, with the Modela Negra. Classic. John mentions it's a tad darker than 23 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,760 he anticipated. Happens to the best of us, stepping outside the comfort zone. Right. 24 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,640 Now for a little fun, they share their first beer stories. John's is pretty standard Corona 25 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:52,640 and lime. A solid start. But Chris, he went straight for Natty Light. Whoa, straight to 26 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:56,820 the hardcore stuff. College budget. Yeah. Makes you wonder how those different approaches 27 00:02:56,820 --> 00:03:01,760 play out in their tech choices, too. Great point. Speaking of college, Chris mentions 28 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,080 his time at Oklahoma Baptist University was a bit limited in the beer department. Oh, 29 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:11,920 tell me about it. Apparently parties mostly had that weaker 3.2% beer. Yikes. So they'd 30 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:17,280 make epic road trips to Texas for Shinerbach. Yeah, that's dedication. And the funny thing, 31 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:22,440 now he loves Shinerbach. It's like our tastes change over time. Makes you wonder what tech 32 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,560 they thought was meh back then. Yeah. That they now swear by. Totally. OK, beer talk 33 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:33,840 aside, let's talk gear. Chris has been in IT at Pineco for 18 years. Wow, a veteran. 34 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,120 And he's got this growing passion for AV. That's audio visual tech for anyone new to 35 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,840 the lingo. You got it. Looks like John's gonna be hitting him up with all sorts of IT questions. 36 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:47,120 I bet. They even shared a story about this feelings chair in their office. A feelings 37 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,180 chair. OK, I'm all ears. Apparently it was the designated spot for when tech issues got 38 00:03:52,180 --> 00:03:57,120 so bad, you just needed to vent. Oh, we all have those moments. What's the chair got to 39 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:03,160 do with it? Well, John decided to make that chair his desk chair. Oh, no. Talk about tempting 40 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:08,480 fate. Right. I could just imagine the close calls with coffee spills and sudden system 41 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,040 crashes. OK, so we've got the office antics down. Now, what about the gear they're using 42 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:20,600 for this episode? Both are rocking the Rodecaster Pro 2 and Shure SM7B microphones. Professional 43 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,040 grade stuff. Sounds like their series about quality audio. Did they say anything about 44 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,440 their plans for future recordings? They mentioned things might change a bit as they move to 45 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:33,420 remote recording. Life happens, you know, families work commitments. It's a challenge 46 00:04:33,420 --> 00:04:38,200 for sure. Keeping things consistent while life throws curveballs. Now, get this. Chris 47 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,640 has a surprisingly tricked out home setup. Really? What's he working with? He even has 48 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,120 his own Rodecaster Pro 2. No way. Yeah, though he hasn't actually produced anything with 49 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,760 it yet. And this guy's got mics for days. I'm picturing a wall of microphone. An Electrovoice 50 00:04:51,760 --> 00:05:00,020 RE320, a Hale PR40. He's even had a Shure SM7B and an Electrovoice RE27ND in the past. 51 00:05:00,020 --> 00:05:05,120 Looks like he enjoys experimenting, finding the perfect setup. Where is he planning to 52 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:11,680 go? He's thinking about his closet. Closet? For the best sound padding. Dedication. I 53 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:18,040 get it. Podcasters often go to great lengths for optimal sound. Totally. Now, for mic arms, 54 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:23,560 Jon prefers the Elgato Wave. Hey, that worked. It's nice and compact, unlike the bulkier 55 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,760 Rode PSA1. Space saving is always a plus. Right. They both seem pretty happy with the 56 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,140 Rodecaster Pro 2, though. Why is that? They love the individual faders, assignable buttons, 57 00:05:34,140 --> 00:05:38,300 and that it can handle multiple microphones. That's pretty versatile. What else? They mentioned 58 00:05:38,300 --> 00:05:43,240 a recent addition of a second USB channel, which opens up even more possibilities. Like 59 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:49,280 what? Now they can use USB mics, like the Rode Potamic USB, or even go wireless. Oh, 60 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:52,840 cool. Which wireless mics are they looking at? They mentioned the Rode Wireless J2 or 61 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:56,080 something similar. Lots of flexibility for different recording styles. What about the 62 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,360 platform they're using? They talked about cleanfeed.net for remote recording. It's known 63 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:05,320 for high quality audio. I've heard good things about cleanfeed. Is it user friendly? They 64 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,720 have a free tier for basic needs and a pro tier for multi-track recording. Perfect for 65 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:16,580 podcasters who are serious about audio, but might not be tech wizards. Any quirks? They 66 00:06:16,580 --> 00:06:21,640 mentioned it works better with Chrome than Safari for Mac users. Good to know. Now, switching 67 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,780 gears a bit, let's talk about Chris's patience. He does seem incredibly calm, especially when 68 00:06:26,780 --> 00:06:31,220 it comes to tech. It's probably all those years of tech support. Tell me about it. Four 69 00:06:31,220 --> 00:06:36,400 years at Toys R Us, four helping open an Office Max, another stint at Toys R Us, and then 70 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:42,240 support for Cox Communications. Wow, that's a lot of experience. TV, internet, phone issues, 71 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:47,120 he's seen it all. And to top it off, he even fielded a support call from Dennis Miller, 72 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,800 the comedian, all the way from Boise, Idaho. You're kidding. What did John say about all 73 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,380 that experience? He was amazed by Chris's composure. Years on the tech support front 74 00:06:56,380 --> 00:07:01,240 lines definitely have their perks. So what are they using for their everyday tech? Good 75 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:07,340 question. John's all about Apple, iPhone 13 Pro, and a 14 inch MacBook Pro. Classic 76 00:07:07,340 --> 00:07:13,560 setup for creatives. Makes sense. What about Chris? He's Team Android, a Dell laptop, and 77 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,300 a Pixel 6 Pro, soon to be upgraded to the Pixel 8. Interesting how their preferences 78 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:24,600 show up in their tech too. Speaking of setups, for the podcast, he plans to use a Dell 7040 79 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:31,000 micro, even upgraded it with the PCI SSD and more memory. Wow, he's serious about optimization. 80 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,320 Yeah, but even tech gurus have their moments. He shared a story about his computer totally 81 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:43,440 shutting down when he powered on the Rodecaster Pro 2 after the PC. Oh no, I can only imagine. 82 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,760 So much for optimization. Sometimes tech has a mind of its own, even for the pros. He was 83 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:52,520 laughing about it though, you know, saying even he gets those tech hiccups sometimes. 84 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,200 But back to the show. What did they say about future plans? They hinted at some exciting 85 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,800 stuff, like new gear and just keeping the format fresh. But what really caught my attention? 86 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,600 Yeah, tell me. They actually want to hear from the listeners. Really? That's cool. They 87 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:10,040 even encouraged people to send in their AV questions. That's a smart move. It makes the 88 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,760 show more relevant and gets the audience involved. Exactly. Like building a community around 89 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,480 tech and figuring things out together. And then they mentioned something called booster 90 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,680 grams. Hmm, interesting. What are those? I know, right? Is it like sending them virtual 91 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:28,340 beers or something? Uh, not quite. Although I'm sure they'd appreciate the gesture. Booster 92 00:08:28,340 --> 00:08:33,680 grams are actually part of this whole podcast 2.0 thing. It's about finding new ways for 93 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:39,180 listeners to interact with the show. Especially live shows. Exactly. Think of it like sending 94 00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:44,060 a virtual tip or even asking a question in real time during a recording. So it's more 95 00:08:44,060 --> 00:08:48,340 about real time interaction. Yeah. It's a cool way to make the listening experience 96 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:52,920 more dynamic and engaging. So they're not just embracing new tech with their recording 97 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,760 setup, but also looking at how to incorporate these innovative podcasting features to connect 98 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,440 with their audience. It's a forward thinking approach and it suggests beer and gear might 99 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,960 become more than just a show about, well, beer and gear. It could be a platform for 100 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:12,080 exploring the ever evolving world of audio content creation and how people engage with 101 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,560 it. You know, that makes a lot of sense. This first episode really did feel like more than 102 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:22,000 just a tech show. It was fun and engaging. I agree. They obviously know their stuff, 103 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,440 but what makes it stand out is they bring their own experiences and personalities into 104 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,840 the mix. Yeah. It felt very approachable, which I think is important. Tech can be intimidating 105 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,800 for some people. Totally. And they're not afraid to have a little fun with it. You know, 106 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,520 cracking open a beer while they chat. It adds to that casual vibe. It's not just about 107 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,440 information. It's about the enjoyment of learning and exploring new things together. It's like 108 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,760 you're just hanging out with them, listening to a conversation between two friends who 109 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,840 happen to be passionate about tech. Right. And you can tell they're not putting on a 110 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,680 show or trying to be overly technical. They're just being themselves, sharing their knowledge 111 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:01,140 and having a few laughs along the way. And they're not afraid to show their vulnerable 112 00:10:01,140 --> 00:10:04,760 side either. Like when Chris talked about his computer crashing when he powered up the 113 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:11,120 road caster. Yeah. Those little moments make them more human and relatable. It's a good 114 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:17,960 reminder that even tech experts have to troubleshoot sometimes. Absolutely. So to recap, we have 115 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:23,400 two passionate, relatable hosts who are actively engaging with their audience and using their 116 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,440 platform to explore new ideas. And they're having fun while they're at it. I think that's 117 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,560 key. They're not taking themselves too seriously. Exactly. It makes the whole listening experience 118 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:39,040 more enjoyable. So what's the biggest takeaway here? Well, besides all the cool tech details. 119 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:44,360 Yeah. What's the overall message? I think it's that beer and gear is creating a space 120 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:50,120 for learning, sharing, and most importantly, having fun with technology. Whether you're 121 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:55,440 a seasoned techie or just starting out, there's something here for everyone. It's a celebration 122 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,640 of discovery and community all centered around a shared passion for tech. And I'm curious 123 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,960 to see how things evolve as they move to remote recording. That's a good point. It'll be 124 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,120 interesting to see how they adapt and maintain that sense of camaraderie from a distance. 125 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,860 I have a feeling they'll figure it out. They seem pretty resourceful. Maybe they'll even 126 00:11:11,860 --> 00:11:15,920 incorporate some new tech to enhance the remote recording experience. You never know. They're 127 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,960 clearly open to experimentation. So what we have here is a show that's informative, entertaining, 128 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:27,620 and constantly evolving. And what I particularly appreciate is their commitment to transparency 129 00:11:27,620 --> 00:11:33,480 and authenticity. They're not afraid to show their process, their struggles, their occasional 130 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,640 tech fails. It makes them more relatable. And it reminds us that we're all on this tech 131 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:42,480 journey together, figuring things out as we go. Beer and gear feels like a conversation, 132 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,880 not a lecture. It's about sharing knowledge, having fun, and building a community around 133 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,000 shared interests. Couldn't have said it better myself. So to anyone out there who's even 134 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,960 remotely interested in tech or enjoys a good laugh and a good conversation. Over a beer? 135 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:01,280 Oh, yeah. Definitely the beer. I highly recommend checking out Beer and Gear. You might just 136 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,720 discover your new favorite podcast. And imagine if they took it a step further. What if we 137 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:11,200 could actually see them too? Oh, like video. Exactly. Imagine seeing their gear setups, 138 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,160 their beer choices, their reactions in real time. It'd be like, like we're right there 139 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:21,280 with them. Exactly. Imagine John cracking a joke while Chris is adjusting his mic all 140 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,240 while they're nerding out about the latest tech. That would be awesome. And the possibilities 141 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,880 for audience interaction, live Q&A sessions, real time feedback on their gear, maybe even 142 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,160 virtual cheers with our beers. Now you're talking. It would totally transform the show 143 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:42,320 from a podcast into a truly interactive experience, blurring the lines between podcasting and 144 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,920 live streaming. Yeah, exactly. It's a pretty exciting thought and it shows how open they 145 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:52,040 are to pushing boundaries and exploring new ways to connect with their audience. So we 146 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,040 don't know what the future holds for Beer and Gear, but one thing's for sure. They're 147 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,540 going to keep things interesting. Absolutely. They're not afraid to experiment, innovate 148 00:12:59,540 --> 00:13:04,520 and keep things fresh, which means for listeners, it's going to be a fun ride. You got it. They've 149 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:09,880 created a show that's both informative and entertaining and that passion for tech. It's 150 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:15,760 contagious. It really is. And that authenticity they bring, it's refreshing. They're not afraid 151 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,360 to show their process, their struggles, even the occasional tech fail. Exactly. It makes 152 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,920 them more relatable and reminds us that we're all in this together, figuring things out 153 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,360 as we go. It's like they're saying, Hey, we're just a couple of guys who love tech and we 154 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,020 want to share that love with you. And a beer or two along the way. I think that's what 155 00:13:32,020 --> 00:13:37,320 makes Beer and Gear so special. It's a conversation, not a lecture. It's about sharing knowledge, 156 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,680 having fun, building a community. And who knows, maybe even inspiring others to explore 157 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:46,300 their own tech passions. Exactly. So to anyone out there who's even remotely curious about 158 00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:51,360 tech or just enjoys a good conversation between two friends, I highly recommend checking out 159 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:56,880 Beer and Gear. Couldn't agree more. You might just discover your new favorite podcast and 160 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,440 hey, who knows, maybe you'll even be inspired to grab a beer and tinker with your own tech 161 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,360 setup. Cheers to that. And to John and Chris for creating such an engaging and entertaining 162 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,360 show. We can't wait to see what they come up with next. So keeping you out for Beer 163 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:18,280 and Gear and until next time, stay geeky. Welcome to another deep dive. Always a pleasure. 164 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:23,480 So today we're going to be looking at the first episode of Beer and Gear. Beer and Gear. 165 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:29,640 Yeah. So this new show with John Redfuring and Chris Kincaid. Oh, okay. I'm intrigued 166 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:35,680 already. Yeah. They're both big into tech and obviously big into beer, as the name might 167 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,600 suggest. Well, you got my attention with the beer for sure. Yeah. So they kind of just 168 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:46,800 jump right in and they each start with a Modela Negra. And John even mentions that it's a 169 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,880 lot darker than he thought it was going to be. Really? Yeah. And it got me thinking about 170 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,880 like what people's first beers were. Oh, yeah. Like what did I have? What was my first beer 171 00:14:54,880 --> 00:15:01,280 experience? You know, totally. Turns out John's first beer was a Corona and Lime. Classic. 172 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,880 Yeah. Very, very standard. Yeah. But Chris went straight for the Natty Light. Oh, Natty 173 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,840 Light. Yeah. And he was talking about how it was really just a college budget thing. 174 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:18,560 Yeah. Makes sense. But, you know, it's kind of interesting, like how those early experiences 175 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,560 kind of shape our tastes for things. I mean, it makes sense. Yeah. You know, those first 176 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,120 impressions definitely stick with you. Yeah. And he was saying how he went to Oklahoma 177 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Baptist University and apparently they mostly had that weaker 3.2 percent beer at parties. 178 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,760 Wow. Yeah. So they used to actually road trip to Texas just to get Shiner Bach. Oh, wow. 179 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,400 Dedicated. Yeah. And now it's one of his favorites. Interesting. Yeah. It's kind of funny how these 180 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,040 things evolve, right? Yeah. You know, it makes you think about all those those pieces of 181 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,960 tech that maybe we dismissed years ago, but now we can't live with that. Oh, yeah. Totally. 182 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,760 But can you imagine going back to dial up? Oh, God, no. No, no, no. But speaking of tech, 183 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,960 let's let's get into the gear side of beer and gear. Let's do it. Chris has got like 184 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:07,760 a really impressive background in IT, like 18 years at Pine Cove. Wow. And and now he's 185 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:13,160 been like diving deeper and deeper into this AV technology stuff. AV, you said? Yeah. Audio 186 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:18,000 video. Yeah. And, you know, working at Pine Cove, they had this this thing called the 187 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:23,360 Feelings Chair. Feelings Chair. Yeah. It was like this specific chair in their office that 188 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,200 was just designated for like venting about those really frustrating tech issues. Oh, 189 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,160 so like that chair has seen some stuff. Oh, yeah, definitely. And the funny thing is, 190 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,560 is John like ended up adopting that exact same chair as his desk chair, like without 191 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,840 even realizing it. Oh, that's hilarious. I know, right. Wow. But, you know, it kind of 192 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,840 speaks to the humor that they they bring to the show, like they're willing to poke fun 193 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,040 at themselves and those like relatable tech struggles we've all been through. Yeah, totally. 194 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,000 It makes you feel like they're just like regular people, you know. Yeah, exactly. Not just 195 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:58,320 some tech gurus living in their ivory towers. OK, so let's get to like their recording setup. 196 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:03,880 For this first episode, they're both using the Rodecaster Pro 2 with the Shure SM7B microphones. 197 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,160 So top of the line. Yeah. Showing that they're serious about this audio quality stuff right 198 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,320 out of the gate. Yeah. I mean, for a podcast about audio and video, like good audio is 199 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,640 a must. Yeah. But it also makes me think about the fact that they're recording separately. 200 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,940 Right. Like they're already kind of embracing that flexibility. Yeah. That a lot of creators 201 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:25,040 are moving towards. Yeah, exactly. Makes it so much easier to actually, you know, get 202 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:30,560 things done. And speaking of setups, Chris has like this crazy home studio. Oh, really? 203 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,220 Yeah. He's got his own Rodecaster Pro 2, although he admits that he hasn't actually produced 204 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:38,960 anything with it yet. He's probably got grand plans, you know. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Just 205 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:44,640 waiting for the right project. But his microphone collection is wild. Really? Yeah. He's got 206 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:53,440 like an Electro Voice RE320, a Hale PR40. Oh, wow. And he's even owned a Shure SM7B 207 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,920 and an Electro Voice RE27ND in the past. Like this guy's a microphone aficionado. It seems 208 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,780 like it. Wow. And get this, he's planning to like record in his closet for optimal sound 209 00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:09,440 padding. With the lengths we go to for good audio. I know, right? That's dedication, though. 210 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,560 Yeah, it's a pretty good tip for anyone, you know, trying to step up their recording game. 211 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Now, John, he prefers the Elgato Wave mic arm over the bulkier Rode PSA1. Probably for 212 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,680 the size. Yeah, I'm guessing. Yeah, those Rode arms can get a little unwieldy. But they 213 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:32,080 both rave about the Rodecaster Pro 2. Yeah, the workhorse. Yeah, the individual faders, 214 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,240 the assignable buttons, being able to handle multiple microphones. Is that out at all? 215 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:41,480 They even mentioned that there was a recent update that added a second USB channel. Oh, 216 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:47,560 wow. I know. So even more possibilities. Yeah, right. Like you could use USB mics now, like 217 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:52,560 the Rode Podmic USB, or even go wireless with options like the Rode Wireless Joe 2. Yeah, 218 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:57,280 they're really showing that they're like staying on top of all the latest tech. Yeah. Which, 219 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,960 you know, adds to their credibility. Definitely. Especially in a field like this where things 220 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:06,520 are changing so quickly. And for remote recording, they're using cleanfeed.net. Clean feed. Yeah, 221 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,600 it's known for like super high quality audio. And it's got both free and pro tiers. So it's 222 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,440 pretty accessible. Oh, cool. Yeah, they even mentioned that it works better with Chrome 223 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,960 than Safari on Macs. It's those little details, you know? Yeah, it makes them seem more relatable. 224 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,400 Yeah, even tech pros have their preferred workflows. Absolutely. And their occasional 225 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,720 hiccups. Yeah, exactly. But speaking of tech pros, we got to talk about Chris's Patience. 226 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,520 Oh my god, this guy is a Zen Master. What do you mean? Like John was completely blown 227 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:39,140 away by how calm he is. Really? Even when things like go wrong. And I think it comes 228 00:19:39,140 --> 00:19:43,400 from all his experience in tech support. Oh yeah, that'll do it. Like this guy spent four 229 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:48,880 years at Toys R Us, four years helping to open an Office Macs, another stint at Toys 230 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:54,920 R Us, and then he did support for Cox Communications dealing with TV, internet, phone issues. Oh 231 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,920 wow, that's like a crash course in Patience. It really is. And it gets even better. He 232 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:05,840 even fielded a support call from Dennis Miller. Dennis Miller? Yeah, the comedian from Boise, 233 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,480 Idaho. You've got to be kidding me. Nope. Wow, that's a story I need to hear. I know, 234 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,560 right? I wonder if dealing with Dennis Miller prepared him for anything else the tech world 235 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,560 could throw at him. Right, like at that point, nothing can phase you. So after all that, 236 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,420 let's see what kind of tech these guys use on a daily basis. Okay, so John, being the 237 00:20:23,420 --> 00:20:29,120 Apple enthusiast, he uses an iPhone 13 Pro and a 14-inch MacBook Pro. Okay, pretty standard 238 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:35,160 for creative types. Yeah. But then we have Chris, who's Team Android all the way. Really? 239 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,020 Yeah, he uses a Dell laptop and a Pixel 6 Pro, and he's already planning on upgrading 240 00:20:40,020 --> 00:20:45,680 to the Pixel 8. Wow. He's not wasted any time. It's a good reminder that there's no one right 241 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,880 way to do things, you know? Yeah, totally fine what works for you. Even if you're a 242 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,360 tech expert, you still have your preferences. Absolutely. But even though Chris is like 243 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:59,800 this tech riz, he's not immune to those frustrating moments we all have. Oh, I know those moments. 244 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:06,320 Right. So he was talking about his Dell 7040 Micro, which he had souped up with a PCI SSD 245 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,960 and more memory. Nice. Yeah, but it completely crashed when he turned on his Rodecaster Pro 246 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,280 2 after booting up his PC. Oh no. I know, right? Even the best of us. But the funny 247 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:20,920 thing is he just laughed it off. You gotta laugh. Otherwise you'll cry. Yeah, it just 248 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,640 shows that even the most experienced tech gurus have their moments. Totally. It makes 249 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,840 them feel more human. Yeah, more relatable for sure. So they hinted at some exciting 250 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,840 things coming up for beer and gear, like new gear and keeping the format fresh. Oh, cool. 251 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,280 But what really stood out to me was their focus on interacting with their listeners. 252 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,440 That's smart. Yeah, they actually encourage people to send in their AV questions. That's 253 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,600 a great way to build a community. Yeah. And people feel like they're part of the show. 254 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,720 Yeah. And then they introduced this concept called Boostergrams. Boostergrams. Yeah. To 255 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:58,280 understand it, we kind of have to touch on this Podcast 2.0 idea. Okay, jump me in. So 256 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:04,280 Podcast 2.0 is all about finding new ways for listeners to interact with podcasts, especially 257 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:09,040 during like live recordings. Oh, interesting. It's about like pushing the boundaries of 258 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:14,480 what a podcast can be. So it's like more than just listening. Yeah, exactly. More interactive. 259 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:20,600 Yeah. Huh, I like it. So think of Boostergrams as like virtual tips or a way to ask questions 260 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,040 in real time. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it makes the listeners feel like they're actually participating 261 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,920 in the show. Yeah, not just passively listening. Yeah. And it's clear that beer and gear is 262 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,840 aiming to be more than just a podcast. Yeah, they want to create a platform. Yeah, for 263 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:40,400 exploring all this new audio content creation stuff and how to interact with your audience. 264 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,120 That's a bold vision. Yeah. And the first episode definitely gives us a taste of what 265 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:49,000 they're capable of. Yeah, I'm excited to see where they take it. Me too. It's definitely 266 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,560 a step in the right direction. Yeah. I think they've tapped into something really special 267 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,440 here with this blend of tech and casual conversation. It's like they're saying you don't have to 268 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,900 be an expert to enjoy this world. Yeah, exactly. What do you think? Like what stood out to 269 00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:06,960 you the most about the show? Well, besides the beer, of course. Oh, yeah, of course. 270 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:15,400 I was struck by their genuine passion for tech and how they weave in their own personal 271 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,320 experiences. Yeah, it makes it so much more relatable. Exactly. It's not just spewing 272 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:25,040 specs and features. Right. They're sharing those aha moments and even like those frustrating 273 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:30,380 tech fails. Yeah, like that story about Chris's computer crashing. Oh, yeah. Even with his 274 00:23:30,380 --> 00:23:34,940 super tricked out setup. It happens to the best of us. I know, right? It's a good reminder 275 00:23:34,940 --> 00:23:40,720 that we're all in this together. Yeah. Navigating this ever changing tech world. And sometimes 276 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,440 even the pros need to troubleshoot and laugh it off. Yeah. But through it all, their enthusiasm 277 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:51,280 for podcasting and this dedication to creating quality content shines through. Yeah. They're 278 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,540 clearly invested in building a community around their shared love for tech. And that's where 279 00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:59,600 I think these booster grams come in. It's such a cool concept. It's really smart. It 280 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,880 shows they're really thinking about the future of podcasting. Yeah, they're not just delivering 281 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:09,280 content. Right. They're creating an experience. Yeah, they're blurring the lines between traditional 282 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,080 podcasting and live streaming. Yeah. I mentioned tuning into a live episode and being able 283 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,840 to send a virtual tip or ask a question right then and there. It's like building a virtual 284 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:25,280 pub, you know? Oh, yeah. Where everyone can gather. Share a few beers. Geek out over tech. 285 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,680 I love it. And you know, you can't forget about the beer itself. The real star of the 286 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,120 show. It sets the tone. Creates that relaxed atmosphere. Makes it feel like they're just 287 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:39,040 hanging out with friends. Yeah. Sharing stories. Having a laugh. Exactly. And that's what makes 288 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,800 beer and gear so unique. It's informative. Entertaining. And most importantly, genuine. 289 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,840 Yeah. They've created a space where tech feels approachable and fun. Even if you're not a 290 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:56,640 hardcore enthusiast. So what do you think? Like, could this combination of tech expertise 291 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,320 and laid back conversation be the future of online learning? It's an interesting question, 292 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,840 for sure. Like, is this how we're all going to be absorbing information in the years to 293 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,720 come? I mean, we are bombarded with information constantly. Right. So finding ways to make 294 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:15,600 learning, engaging and enjoyable is more important now than ever. And beer and gear seem to have 295 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,520 found a winning formula. Yeah, they've struck that perfect balance between education and 296 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,680 entertainment. Yeah. It feels like you're learning from friends rather than listening 297 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,560 to a lecture. It's definitely a model worth paying attention to. Especially if you're 298 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,800 thinking about creating your own content. Or just looking for new ways to explore your 299 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:40,400 passions. So what can we learn from this deep dive into beer and gear? Well, I think the 300 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,320 biggest takeaway is the power of authenticity and passion. Yeah. You can tell that John 301 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,280 and Chris really love what they're doing. And that enthusiasm is contagious. They're 302 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,120 not afraid to be themselves, you know, to share their experiences, both the good and 303 00:25:54,120 --> 00:26:00,160 the bad. And that vulnerability makes them relatable. Yeah. Builds trust with their audience. 304 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:07,200 They've created a space where tech feels approachable and fun. Yeah. Which is so important in a world 305 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,760 that can feel really intimidating sometimes. Yeah. They're proving that you don't have 306 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,160 to be an expert to appreciate the power of technology. Or to have a voice in the conversation. 307 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,160 And that even seasoned professionals can learn something new and have a few laughs along 308 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:25,000 the way. Beer and gear is a reminder that learning can be enjoyable and that community 309 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,520 can be built around shared passions. So if you're looking for a podcast that's both informative 310 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,560 and entertaining. That makes you feel like you're part of the conversation. Then be sure 311 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:40,120 to check out Beer and Gear. You might just discover your new favorite podcast. And who 312 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:44,400 knows maybe you'll even be inspired to grab a beer and explore your own tech passions. 313 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Cheers to that. Until next time, keep diving. Keep diving. Yeah. It really does feel like 314 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:54,000 they found something special, you know? Yeah. That mix of tech and just casual conversation. 315 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,160 Yeah. And it's like, you know, you don't have to be a genius to get into this stuff. Yeah, 316 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,720 exactly. And what about you? What really stuck out to you about the show? Hmm. Well, I mean, 317 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,200 obviously the deer is a big draw. Of course. But beyond that, I was really impressed with 318 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,840 how much they clearly love tech. Yeah. And the way they bring in their own stories. Yeah. 319 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,580 That makes it so much easier to connect with. Yeah. You know, instead of just listing off 320 00:27:17,580 --> 00:27:22,200 specs and features. Right. They're sharing their own aha moments. Even those times when 321 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,080 things went wrong. Yeah. Like when Chris's computer crashed. Oh, yeah. Totally. Even 322 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,100 with his crazy setup. It's like a reminder that we've all been there. We're all figuring 323 00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:34,280 this stuff out together. Yeah. Even the pros have those moments. Yeah. You just got to 324 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,120 laugh it off sometimes. Yeah. But even with those challenges, you can really see how much 325 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:45,040 they love podcasting. Yeah. And how much they care about making something good. It's inspiring. 326 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,440 Yeah. And they're really focused on building a community. And that's where those Boostergrams 327 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,400 come in. Yeah. It's such a cool idea. It really is. They're not just making a podcast. Yeah, 328 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,280 it's more than that. They're creating an experience. We're pushing the boundaries of what a podcast 329 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,400 can be. Imagine you're listening to a live episode. Yeah. And you can just send them 330 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,120 a tip or ask a question right then and there. It's like we're all hanging out in a virtual 331 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:12,160 pub. Yeah, exactly. Sharing some beers and talking tech. And you know, we can't forget 332 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,520 about the actual beer. It's not just a gimmick. It really sets the tone for the whole show. 333 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,440 Yeah, it's relaxed. Makes you feel like you're just hanging out with friends. Yeah. Telling 334 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:27,400 stories. Having a laugh. And that's what makes Beering Gear so different. It's fun. Informative. 335 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:33,520 And most importantly, it feels real. Yeah. They've created a space where tech doesn't 336 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:39,800 feel scary or complicated. Yeah. Even if you're not some kind of tech wizard, you can still 337 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:46,560 enjoy it. So what do you think? Do you think this could be the future of learning online? 338 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,240 That's a big question. Like this mix of being an expert, but also being relaxed and approachable. 339 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,780 I mean, we are constantly bombarded with information these days. Yeah, it's overwhelming. So it's 340 00:28:57,780 --> 00:29:01,840 more important than ever to find ways to make learning fun. And it feels like Beering Gear 341 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:07,000 have figured that out. Yeah, they found that sweet spot between education and entertainment. 342 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,780 It's like you're learning from a friend, not a professor. It's a model that more people 343 00:29:10,780 --> 00:29:15,740 should pay attention to. Yeah. Especially if you're thinking about making your own content. 344 00:29:15,740 --> 00:29:19,920 Or just looking for new ways to learn and explore your own interests. So what are the 345 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:25,600 big takeaways from this deep dive? I think the biggest one is the power of authenticity 346 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,320 and passion. Yeah, you can tell that John and Chris really love what they're doing. And 347 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,600 it rubs off on you. They're not afraid to be themselves. To share their wins and losses. 348 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,720 And that makes them relatable. People trust them. Yeah, they've made tech feel accessible 349 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:46,160 and fun. Which is huge. Yeah, in a world where it can feel really intimidating. They're showing 350 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,800 that you don't have to be an expert to appreciate tech. Or to have a voice in the conversation. 351 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,360 And that even the pros can still learn new things. And have a few laughs along the way. 352 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,520 Absolutely. Beer and gear reminds us that learning should be enjoyable. And that you 353 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,960 can build a community around the things you're passionate about. So if you're looking for 354 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,840 a podcast that's both informative and entertaining. It makes you feel like you're part of the 355 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,480 conversation. Make sure you check out Beer and Gear. You might just find your new favorite 356 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,320 podcast. And who knows, maybe you'll even be inspired to crack open a beer and explore 357 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:25,160 your own tech interests. Cheers to that. Until next time, keep diving. It's funny, isn't 358 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:30,040 it? What's that? We talk about, you know, staying informed, keeping up with things, 359 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:35,720 learning. Oh, yeah, all the time. But sometimes it feels like a chore. It can be. Like homework. 360 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:41,800 Yeah, for sure. But Beer and Gear, they kind of make it fun. Yeah, they really do. Like 361 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,640 they've cracked the code or something. Like that friend, you know, who can explain anything. 362 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,280 Yeah, and make it sound interesting. Yeah, exactly. Make you feel so natural. Yeah, it 363 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,000 doesn't feel like you're learning. Like we're all just wired to learn new things, right? 364 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,400 Yeah, totally. It's just finding the right way to spark that interest. What if all learning 365 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,280 was like this? Imagine that. No more boring lectures. Just casual conversations. It would 366 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,220 change everything. Learning would be so much more accessible. For everyone. That's the 367 00:31:09,220 --> 00:31:13,880 real lesson here. Beer and Gear is showing us what the future could look like. Where 368 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,760 being an expert doesn't mean being boring. Yeah, you can be knowledgeable and approachable. 369 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,880 And have a beer while you're at it. Cheers to that. So that wraps up our deep dive into 370 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,040 Beer and Gear. A podcast that's not just about tech, but about the joy of learning and sharing 371 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,560 and connecting with others. We hope this has given you something to think about. Maybe 372 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:37,100 even inspired you to explore your own passion. And find new ways to learn and grow. Until 373 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:43,800 next time, keep diving. Welcome to a deep dive into Beer and Gear. This podcast hosted 374 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:50,640 by John and Chris. Two self-proclaimed techies. Yeah, and they love their beer. As you might 375 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,040 have guessed from the name. In this first episode, they're both enjoying some beers. 376 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:02,480 They are. John's got a Modela Negra. Which he notes is darker than he expected. Yeah. 377 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,520 It's funny how our early experiences really shape our tastes. It is. You know, John's 378 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,480 first beer was a Corona and Lime. Okay. And Chris started off with Natty Light in college. 379 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,240 Yeah. Do you remember your first beer? I do, actually. And how it might have influenced 380 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,500 your preferences today. Oh, for sure. Yeah. They both have pretty interesting backgrounds 381 00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:24,720 when it comes to tech too. They do. Chris has spent an impressive 18 years in IT at 382 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:31,240 Pine Cove. Wow. And now he's diving deep into the world of AV technology. Quite a shift. 383 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,200 It is. Pine Cove actually plays a role in their podcast, Humor 2. Oh, really? Yeah. 384 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:40,320 They have this thing called the Feelings Chair. What? Yeah. It's this designated spot for 385 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,480 venting tech frustrations. Oh, that's. And John ended up adopting that very same chair 386 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,560 for his own desk. Oh, that's great. So it's like inheriting tech karma. It's funny, right? 387 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,520 It is. It brings a sense of humor and relatability to their show. Absolutely. Everyone has those 388 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,200 tech struggles. We do. Makes tech feel less intimidating knowing that even experts have 389 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:06,760 their moments. For sure. Speaking of experts, their recording setup is top notch. Oh, yeah. 390 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:12,920 Both are using the Rodecaster Pro 2 and Shure SM7B microphones for this first episode. And 391 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,360 I get this. They're recording separately. Oh, wow. It shows the flexibility of modern 392 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,520 content creation. That's right. You don't have to be in the same room to create something 393 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:26,440 great. You don't. And Chris's dedication to audio is impressive. Oh, yeah. He has a home 394 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,080 studio with a Rodecaster Pro 2. OK. Though he hasn't produced anything with it yet. Wow. 395 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:36,000 And an amazing microphone collection. Really? We're talking Electro Voice RE320, a Hale 396 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:43,840 PR40. Wow. He's even owned a Shure SM7B and an Electro Voice RE27ND before. Wow. He's 397 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,440 even planning to record in his closet for better sound. Talk about commitment. Yeah. 398 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,940 Now John prefers the Elgato WaveMic Arm over the Rode PSA1. Interesting. Probably because 399 00:33:53,940 --> 00:34:00,040 of its size. Yeah. But both hosts rave about the Rodecaster Pro 2. They do. They love its 400 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:05,080 features, the individual faders, assignable buttons, and its ability to handle multiple 401 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,640 microphones. Yeah. It's clear they're keeping up with the latest audio technology. They 402 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,080 are. For instance, they mentioned the recent Rodecaster Pro 2 update that added a second 403 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:21,440 USB channel. Oh, right. Which opens up possibilities for using USB mics like the RodePod mic USB 404 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,320 or wireless options like the Rode Wireless Go 2. Oh, wow. That's cool. Yeah. That's one 405 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,340 of the things that makes their insights valuable. It is. They're staying current. For sure. 406 00:34:30,340 --> 00:34:36,200 For their remote recording, they use CleanFeed.net. Interesting. It's known for high quality audio, 407 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:42,240 and they even shared a tip. It performs better in Chrome than Safari on Macs. Yeah. Those 408 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:46,760 little details that make them relatable. Yeah. Even tech experts have their preferred workarounds. 409 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,880 For sure. And Chris's patience is incredible. It is. Probably from his extensive background 410 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,800 in tech sport. Yeah. Four years at Toys R Us. Four years helping to open an Office Macs, 411 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:03,520 another stand at Toys R Us, and then support for Cox Communications. Oh. TV, Internet, and 412 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,920 phone issues. That's a lot of troubleshooting. It is. But here's the kicker. What? Chris 413 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,920 once fielded a support call from comedian Dennis Miller. No way. Yeah. Dennis Miller, 414 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,480 what was that like? I can't imagine the stories he must have. Well, we'll have to dive into 415 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,440 that later. Now let's shift gears and talk about their everyday tech. OK. John, being 416 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:28,320 an Apple enthusiast, uses an iPhone 13 Pro and a 14-inch MacBook Pro. OK. Pretty standard 417 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,840 for creatives. Yeah. Yeah. Chris, on the other hand, is Team Android. OK. With a Dell laptop 418 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,000 and a Pixel 6 Pro. Nice. He's even planning to upgrade to the Pixel 8 soon. Cool. It's 419 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,240 a good reminder that there's no one size fits all in the tech world. Yeah. It's all about 420 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:47,520 finding what works best for you. It is. But even with all that experience, Chris isn't 421 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:55,360 immune to tech fails. Oh, no. He had this souped-up Dell 7040 micro, PCI SSD more memory, 422 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,360 and the whole thing crashed when he turned on his Rodecaster Pro 2. Oh, no. After booting 423 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:07,200 up his PC. Oh, man. The best part. What? He just laughed off. I love that. Yeah. It's 424 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,980 a great reminder that we all have those moments, and it's OK to laugh about it rather than 425 00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:15,440 getting frustrated. It is. So they hinted at exciting things for beer and gear, like 426 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:21,160 new gear and formats. They did. But what stood out was their focus on listener interaction. 427 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:26,760 Right. They encouraged sending in AV questions and have introduced this really cool concept 428 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:32,280 called boostergrams. Oh, cool. But to understand boostergrams, we need to talk about podcast 429 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,760 2.0, this idea of pushing podcasting boundaries and finding new ways for listeners to interact, 430 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,680 especially during live recordings. OK. So it's about evolving the medium and making 431 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,480 it more interactive. Got it. Instead of just passively listening podcast 2.0, aim to make 432 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,800 the listener an active participant. That's pretty neat. It is. So think of boostergrams 433 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,200 as virtual tips or a way to ask questions in real time. So what's fascinating is that 434 00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,760 it could revolutionize how podcasts engage with their audience and even how they generate 435 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,680 revenue. Yeah, that's interesting. This approach empowers listeners, giving them a direct line 436 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,840 to the hosts and potentially influencing the direction of the show. Yeah, that's true. 437 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,720 It's a bold move that could change the landscape of podcasting. It could. Beer and Gear are 438 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:20,920 aiming to be a platform that explores not only audio content creation, but also audience 439 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,680 interaction. That's awesome. This first episode gives us a glimpse of their potential. It 440 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,280 does. But before we go any further, I'm curious what stood out to you about Beer and Gear 441 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:38,260 besides the beer. What struck me the most is their genuine passion for tech and how 442 00:37:38,260 --> 00:37:42,000 they make it relatable through their personal experiences. It's not just listing specs and 443 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:48,160 features. They share aha moments and even those tech fails. Like Chris's computer crashing. 444 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,400 Makes them feel like friends you can learn from. Yeah. Not just experts talking at you. 445 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,280 And speaking of challenges, remember that story about Chris fielding a support call 446 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,800 from Dennis Miller? Oh yeah. Let's rewind to Chris's tech support days. He was working 447 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:06,280 at Cox Communications tackling internet and TV issues when he got a call, the voice on 448 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:11,560 the other end, Dennis Miller. That's wild. What was Chris's reaction? Did he freak out 449 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:17,160 or did his zen like patience kick in? He handled it like a pro. Apparently Dennis was having 450 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:22,180 internet trouble and Chris calmly walked him through the troubleshooting steps. He even 451 00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:26,760 joked later that no tech support call could phase him after that. I bet talking to Dennis 452 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,800 Miller about internet speeds must have been a unique experience. Oh yeah. It highlights 453 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,120 how those unexpected moments can shape our confidence when dealing with tech. Right. 454 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,740 But it also makes you think how much of this podcast's relaxed vibe comes from Chris's 455 00:38:39,740 --> 00:38:44,440 vast experience. I mean, helping Dennis Miller troubleshoot the internet is not your average 456 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,600 Tuesday. Right. It makes you wonder what other hidden stories they might have. This deep 457 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,040 dive is not just about summarizing beer and gear, but also about uncovering those little 458 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,840 nuggets that give us a different perspective. But back to the podcast, it's interesting 459 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,960 how they go beyond gear and delve into their workflows and creative processes. Exactly. 460 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,520 And that's where their different approaches really shine. Yeah. John, as a creative, uses 461 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,500 software like Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro for his projects. Okay. These are industry 462 00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:17,680 standard tools that give him the flexibility and power he needs for audio and video editing. 463 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,240 Makes sense. And then you have Chris, who's more on the IT side, but he's diving headfirst 464 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:27,540 into the world of AV technology. Yeah. They both bring such different backgrounds and 465 00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:32,860 experiences to the table, which makes their conversation so dynamic. For sure. It reminds 466 00:39:32,860 --> 00:39:36,960 us that there are many paths to exploring your tech passions. You don't have to fit 467 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,120 into a specific mold. That's right. And speaking of different approaches, they also had an 468 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,520 interesting discussion about their podcasting goals and their vision for beer and gear. 469 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:51,320 Oh yes. They emphasize wanting to create a space for open dialogue about technology, 470 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,800 where listeners feel comfortable asking questions and sharing their own experiences. It's about 471 00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,360 fostering a community, not just delivering a one way stream of information. Yeah. That 472 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,640 community aspect is what makes beer and gear stand out. They even encourage listeners to 473 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,420 connect with them on social media and participate in discussions. They want to break down the 474 00:40:10,420 --> 00:40:16,200 barriers between experts and learners, making tech feel more accessible to everyone. That's 475 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,140 great. They also talked about the importance of staying true to yourself and not being 476 00:40:20,140 --> 00:40:25,720 afraid to experiment. It's a message that resonates beyond just podcasting. I think 477 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:30,200 it applies to any creative endeavor, any fields where you're trying to make your mark. For 478 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,680 sure. It's about finding your voice and your unique perspective. And beer and gear are 479 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,760 a great example of how authenticity and passion can really connect with an audience. Absolutely. 480 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,480 But they also touch upon the challenges of staying current in the ever evolving world 481 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:48,360 of technology. Absolutely. They talked about the constant need to learn and adapt to embrace 482 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,680 new tools and technologies without getting overwhelmed. It's a sentiment many of us can 483 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,360 relate to, especially in the tech world where things change so rapidly. Right. It's about 484 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,560 finding that balance between staying informed and not getting bogged down by the sheer volume 485 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:09,800 of information out there. Yeah. And they emphasize the importance of seeking out reliable sources 486 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,760 and finding communities where you can learn and grow together. That's a good point. It 487 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,940 is. They also highlighted the importance of not being afraid to ask for help, to reach 488 00:41:19,940 --> 00:41:24,720 out to others who might have more experience. It's about recognizing that we're all on 489 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:29,200 this learning journey together. We are. And that's where the power of community comes 490 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,800 in. Beer and gear are creating a space where people can support each other, share their 491 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,000 knowledge and navigate the world of tech together. That's great. But what I found especially 492 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,920 insightful was their discussion about the future of podcasting and the role of listener 493 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,200 interaction. Right. They believe that the traditional model of one way communication 494 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:53,080 is evolving and they're embracing these new tools and technologies like booster grams 495 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:58,040 to foster a more interactive and engaging experience for their listeners. And this shift 496 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,560 towards more interactive podcasts raises some interesting questions. Does it create new 497 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,240 challenges for creators? Does it empower listeners to become more active participants in the 498 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:12,320 conversation? Those are great questions. And beer and gear are right at the forefront of 499 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,940 this evolution, exploring what it means to create a podcast that's truly interactive 500 00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:22,780 and community driven. They're pushing boundaries and challenging the status quo, which is something 501 00:42:22,780 --> 00:42:27,840 we should always encourage, especially in a medium like podcasting that has so much potential 502 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,040 for growth and innovation. Yeah, for sure. They're not afraid to experiment and try new 503 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:38,020 things. And that's what makes them so exciting to listen to. But beyond the technical aspects 504 00:42:38,020 --> 00:42:43,120 and the future of podcasting, I was struck by their focus on the human element. You mean 505 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,640 how they weave in personal stories and humor into their discussions? Exactly. It makes 506 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,560 them feel more relatable, more human. They're not just tech experts. They're people who 507 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,880 are passionate about what they do and who want to share that passion with others. And 508 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,360 that authenticity is what makes beer and gear so compelling. They're not trying to be someone. 509 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,720 They're not. They're just being themselves. And that's what resonates with listeners. 510 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:07,960 But I'm curious, what are your thoughts on their vision for the future of beer and gear? 511 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,520 They talked about new gear, fresh formats, and even hinted at collaborations. I think 512 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,360 they have a clear vision of where they want to take the podcast. They're not just content 513 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,840 with staying in their lane. They want to push boundaries and explore new possibilities. 514 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:27,580 And their willingness to experiment and innovate is what makes them so exciting to follow. 515 00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:30,120 It's clear they're not just in it for the tech. They're in it for the community, for 516 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,480 the connections they're building with their listeners. And that's what makes beer and 517 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,560 gear more than just a podcast. It's a movement. It's about fostering a love for technology, 518 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,160 about making it accessible and enjoyable for everyone. And their passion is contagious. 519 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,880 It is. But before we wrap up this deep dive, I want to circle back to their discussion 520 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,780 about Podcast 2.0 and those booster grams. Do you think this could really change the 521 00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:55,360 way podcasts are created and consumed? 522 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,720 It's definitely a step towards a more interactive and engaging listening experience. And I think 523 00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:05,080 it has the potential to transform the podcasting landscape. Yeah. Think about it. Listeners 524 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,600 could have a direct impact on the show's content, potentially steering the conversation in real 525 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,600 time. 526 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,220 It could also create new revenue streams for podcasters, allowing listeners to directly 527 00:44:15,220 --> 00:44:20,460 support the creators they love. It's a fascinating concept with a lot of potential. 528 00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:25,080 It's almost like blurring the lines between traditional podcasting and live streaming, 529 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,640 creating a hybrid format that's both engaging and interactive. 530 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,520 And it's exciting to see beer and gear at the forefront of this evolution, experimenting 531 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,600 with new technologies and pushing the boundaries of what's possible in podcasting. 532 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,600 For sure. 533 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,080 But what are your thoughts on the potential downsides of this increased interactivity? 534 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,800 That's a great point. It's not all sunshine and roses, while this shift towards more interactive 535 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:53,320 podcasts has the potential to revolutionize the medium. It also presents some challenges. 536 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,760 For instance, how do you manage real-time feedback to ensure that the conversation remains 537 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,520 productive and respectful? 538 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,320 Exactly. Moderating a live chat and incorporating listener feedback on the fly requires a different 539 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:08,520 skill set than traditional podcasting. It also raises questions about editorial control 540 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,320 and the potential for distractions or derailments. 541 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,800 And then there's the question of accessibility. Not all listeners may have the bandwidth or 542 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,120 the technology to participate in real-time interactions. 543 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,880 Right. It's crucial to ensure that these innovations don't create barriers to entry. For listeners 544 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:29,620 who prefer a more traditional listening experience, it's about finding a balance between embracing 545 00:45:29,620 --> 00:45:34,020 new technologies and maintaining accessibility for everyone. 546 00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:39,000 It's about creating a podcasting ecosystem that's inclusive and welcoming, regardless 547 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:44,540 of your level of tech expertise or your ability to participate in real-time interactions. 548 00:45:44,540 --> 00:45:48,040 And I think that's ultimately what Beer and Gear are trying to achieve. They're passionate 549 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,500 about making tech accessible to everyone, and they're constantly exploring new ways 550 00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:53,960 to connect with their audience. 551 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,440 Yeah. They're not afraid to take risks and try new things, and that's what makes them 552 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:03,340 so inspiring. It's inspiring to see their dedication to pushing the boundaries of podcasting. 553 00:46:03,340 --> 00:46:07,440 And for listeners who might not be as tech savvy, do you think Beer and Gear is still 554 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,440 a good fit? 555 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,840 Absolutely. One of their strengths is making complex topics accessible. They break things 556 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,280 down in a way that's easy to understand. 557 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,920 Even if you're not a tech expert, they're like that friend who can explain complicated 558 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,440 things without making you feel dumb. 559 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,780 I think that's what sets them apart. They have a knack for finding those relatable analogies 560 00:46:28,780 --> 00:46:33,920 and real-world examples that help even the most technical concepts click. 561 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,680 Yeah, exactly. And they don't shy away from humor either. 562 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:37,680 No, they don't. 563 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,840 Which keeps things light and entertaining. It's not a dry lecture on tech specs. 564 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,840 Right. 565 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,760 It's a conversation that feels engaging and fun. 566 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,680 And their willingness to be vulnerable. 567 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,680 Yeah. 568 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,640 Sharing their own aha moments and tech fails makes them even more relatable. 569 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,640 Absolutely. 570 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,680 It makes you realize that everyone struggles with technology at some point, even the experts. 571 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,680 It's refreshing to hear that honesty, right? 572 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:02,680 Yeah. 573 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,000 It reminds us that it's okay to not have all the answers to make mistakes and to learn 574 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,880 along the way. Their transparency creates a sense of trust and authenticity that's hard 575 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,040 to find in the tech world. 576 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,360 It really is. They're not just trying to sell you something or present themselves as infallible 577 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,360 tech gurus. 578 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,700 Right. They're genuinely passionate about sharing their knowledge and helping others 579 00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:26,320 navigate the often overwhelming world of technology. 580 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,880 And their passion is contagious. 581 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:28,880 It is. 582 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,440 It makes you want to dive deeper into the topics they discuss to explore your own tech 583 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,440 interests and to maybe even grab a beer and tinker with some gadgets yourself. 584 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:42,560 Exactly. It's about sparking that curiosity and encouraging exploration, regardless of 585 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,960 your level of expertise. 586 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,960 Yeah. 587 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,240 They're creating a welcoming space where everyone feels comfortable asking questions and learning 588 00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:50,240 together. 589 00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:53,780 And they're doing it in a way that's entertaining and engaging, which is a testament to their 590 00:47:53,780 --> 00:47:57,360 skill as communicators and their dedication to their craft. 591 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,360 They are. 592 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,880 They're not just podcasters. They're educators, they're entertainers, and they're community 593 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:02,880 builders. 594 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,640 They're proving that learning about technology doesn't have to be boring or intimidating. 595 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,640 Right. 596 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,680 It can be fun, it can be social, and it can be a shared experience. 597 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,680 It can. 598 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,680 Beer and gear are a shining example of how to blend education and entertainment. 599 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,680 They are. 600 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,640 Creating a podcast that's both informative and inspiring. 601 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,800 So if you're looking for a podcast that will expand your knowledge, make you laugh, and 602 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,920 inspire you to explore the world of tech, I highly recommend checking out Beer and Gear. 603 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,960 You might just discover your new favorite podcast and who knows, maybe you'll even be 604 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,240 inspired to crack open a cold one and drive into your own tech passions. 605 00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:40,380 Thanks for joining us on this deep dive into the world of beer and gear. 606 00:48:40,380 --> 00:48:44,440 Until next time, keep exploring, keep learning, and keep diving deep. 607 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,800 Well, that was definitely some interesting stuff. 608 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,320 So let's talk about where it kind of went off the rails. 609 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:57,820 From the beginning, in the first version, they could not pronounce John's last name. 610 00:48:57,820 --> 00:49:02,640 For some reason, red fern is just something they can't do. 611 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:08,440 What I also found intriguing is that they refer to Nati Light as hardcore. 612 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:14,240 I wouldn't call Nati Light hardcore, but apparently they do. 613 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:18,680 And the other thing that was quite intriguing is that somehow they decided that I'm the 614 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,200 one who went to college in Oklahoma. 615 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:27,160 Who knew that I had a secret second life and I spent time in Oklahoma? 616 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,840 For those of you that don't know, it was actually John who attended college in Oklahoma. 617 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,960 And he was the one that came to Texas for those beers, not me. 618 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:41,480 Another thing that I personally took umbrage with is them referring to Boostergrams as 619 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,360 tips. 620 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,680 Boostergrams are not tips. 621 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:51,720 Boostergrams are you sending value back to the podcast because you got value or found 622 00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:55,160 value in what we are sharing with you. 623 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,000 So please never, never, never call Boostergrams tips. 624 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,160 And the last thing, and that particular one that I found intriguing is at the very end 625 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:12,280 when the AI lady says stay geeky, it almost sounds like something is happening with her 626 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:17,200 and her voice and it's almost like she's starting to fail and fall apart and is struggling to 627 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,440 get that out. 628 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:23,160 So that was kind of a weird artifact, not sure what happened there. 629 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:32,000 And then when we roll into the second version, again, I'm still going to college in Oklahoma. 630 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:37,880 I'm not surprised that they continued that since they got it wrong in the initial summary. 631 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:43,200 And I don't think I like the reference to us as tech bros. 632 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,920 That sounds a little too Silicon Valley for me. 633 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,840 And I don't know that either of us would say that we identify as tech bros. 634 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,400 The one thing they did mention that I actually liked the concept of, and I think I'm going 635 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:03,520 to try to figure out how we can incorporate it into the show, is that the podcast is a 636 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,400 virtual pub. 637 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,240 Kind of like the idea of that. 638 00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:09,880 We'll see what comes out of that. 639 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:15,760 And then the other thing that was unique to this version that was quite intriguing is 640 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,440 they wrap up as if they're done. 641 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:24,080 And then they started over, like they were redoing the summary. 642 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,360 And then they did it one more time. 643 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:32,160 They wrapped up as if they're done, and then rolled back in a third time as if they were 644 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,060 summarizing it all over again. 645 00:51:35,060 --> 00:51:36,880 No idea what happened there. 646 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:43,360 I think it's a great example of AI slop, as some people call it, or you can maybe refer 647 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,480 to it as some model collapse. 648 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,720 And then we get to the third version. 649 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:55,040 I think this was probably the better of the three versions, in my opinion, in terms of 650 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,720 what they are trying to summarize the show about. 651 00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:04,640 And I noticed they skipped John's last name and just refer to him as John. 652 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:10,780 That's not even attempt to say red fern or red furring as they were saying in the others. 653 00:52:10,780 --> 00:52:15,600 So I found that intriguing that they just kind of skipped the last name altogether. 654 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:21,800 But for the most part, I think that version was definitely the better of the three. 655 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,040 I don't know that any of them were spectacular. 656 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,080 I think between listening to those, you kind of get a general concept of what the first 657 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,320 show was about. 658 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,440 So I hope you somehow found this intriguing and enjoyable. 659 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:44,320 I know I certainly did, and just kind of experimenting and seeing how AI handles when it consumes 660 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:50,320 back its own content versus consuming firsthand content. 661 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:56,720 I would love to have gone a couple more layers in, but I figured three was probably enough. 662 00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:03,040 And we definitely got to see some of the issues of AI, even initially taking the firsthand 663 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:08,840 content and then really struggling as it consumes its own content. 664 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,600 And I just think that's just indicative of model collapse, which is what happens when 665 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,440 the AI starts to eat its own dog food. 666 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:41,760 So again, I hope you all enjoyed this show and we'll catch you in the next episode. 667 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,440 Bye!