1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,280 Ooohhh my god nature 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,360 Do do dink 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:08,880 Do boon 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:10,420 Booo 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,860 EEEE 6 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:16,740 Now to the reveal 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Hey Chris. 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:33,520 Hey John, how are you? 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,940 B-B-Bo稱 10 00:00:22,940 --> 00:00:23,920 Yeah 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,760 I'm doing good. 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,040 I've got a mug that says, heck yes. 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,040 Yes you do. 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,800 That we're going to drink out of today, or that I'm going to drink out of. 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,440 I bought this really nice mug set for us and I just keep forgetting to bring it. 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,440 So you've got yours. 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,240 I've got mine. 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,240 Congratulations. 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,240 Yes. 20 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,960 I'm drinking out of a coffee mug right now. 21 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,320 It's going to be great. 22 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,320 It works. 23 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,600 Alright, so tell us the story. 24 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,120 What are we drinking? 25 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,120 Okay, so this is from my friends David and Wayne at Flare Data. 26 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,120 Flare Data. 27 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,120 Been working with those guys for at least 13 years, if not closer to 15. 28 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:17,400 They had invited us to an event in January, but it was pretty much a drinking event. 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:22,020 And it was like, sorry guys, I really can't attend that as a Pine Cove employee. 30 00:01:22,020 --> 00:01:26,040 Not as an employee, but I could attend that if I wasn't an employee. 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,040 Correct. 32 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,160 So I met with them earlier this week and they were like, hey, we felt bad that you couldn't 33 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,480 make it. 34 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,080 Let us give you this instead. 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:39,720 I'm like, well, I will gladly accept that 64 ounce bottle of beer. 36 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,400 So they got this at Pint and Barrel in Palestine. 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,400 Okay. 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,360 It is filled with Founder's Solid Gold Premium Lager. 39 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,520 So it's not, they got it from Pint and Barrel. 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,520 Correct. 41 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,320 But it's not one of Pint and Barrel's. 42 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,320 No. 43 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,320 Does Pint and Barrel make beer? 44 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,920 As best I can tell on their site, no. 45 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,040 They just have existing beers on tap. 46 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,200 But it is Founder's. 47 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,200 It is Founder's. 48 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,200 And we like Founder's. 49 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,240 Yes, love the breakfast out. 50 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,680 Although we have not had this. 51 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,360 Not this, but I'm also, I'm a self-admitted beer snob. 52 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,200 If it's not dark beer, I don't like it. 53 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,200 Paler. 54 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,400 But hey, when you get free beer, you drink the free beer. 55 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,400 You say thank you very much. 56 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,400 I'll drink it. 57 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,800 I mean, we say that, but also you brought a backup. 58 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,800 Just in case. 59 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,800 Just in case. 60 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,800 You never know. 61 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,840 Although I do have a track record on the show of just powering through anyways. 62 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,840 Yeah, yeah, you do. 63 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,080 So I mean of some really questionable. 64 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,480 What is going on? 65 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Here we go. 66 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,240 So, but I do have their blur pulled up off their site since we don't go for it. 67 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,240 Yeah. 68 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,120 Actual bottle to read off of. 69 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,880 So it says our brewery was built on an attitude of no regrets. 70 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,480 No regrets. 71 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,880 That's what came to mind the first time I read it. 72 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:54,880 Not even one letter. 73 00:02:54,880 --> 00:03:00,320 No, an attitude of taking risks, bringing the best beer possible to our fellow renegades 74 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,320 and rebels. 75 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,320 Okay. 76 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,980 Never brewing to style, but always brewing what we want to drink. 77 00:03:05,980 --> 00:03:10,520 Our take on a classic solid gold is a drinkable premium lager. 78 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,040 I'm glad it's drinkable. 79 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Brewed with the highest quality ingredients, changing what a lager can be. 80 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,680 That's something we won't regret. 81 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,680 Regret. 82 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:30,480 I don't think AI wrote that or anything, but the fact that they use drinkable as a, I don't 83 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,480 know. 84 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,080 Well, I'm going to take it that there's kind of a dig at other places and saying that, 85 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,560 hey, your beer is not even drinkable. 86 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,560 Oh gosh. 87 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,560 Okay. 88 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,560 So shot over the bow. 89 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,560 Shot over the bow. 90 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,960 Hey, we actually have drinkable beer. 91 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,960 Yes. 92 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,120 And so their tasting notes say crisp notes of cereal grain and a hint of lemon with a 93 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,360 light body and low bitterness. 94 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,360 Okay. 95 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,880 4.4% and it is a 20 on the IBU. 96 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,160 So it is pretty low on the bitter. 97 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:10,720 I'm all for low on the bitter, but light on the body and this may be a, what I call a 98 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,040 lawn work beer. 99 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,440 If I've been sweating and I'm going to drink a beer, it's probably not going to be a dark 100 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,440 one. 101 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,440 No, probably not. 102 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,080 So maybe it's one of those. 103 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,040 It's like the Gatorade of beers. 104 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,280 It might look like Gatorade. 105 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:29,200 Okay, let's hopefully not. 106 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,120 We're about to see a color for the first time here. 107 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,360 I'll make my pour and then I'll just pass you the rest of the bottle. 108 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,360 Thanks man. 109 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,600 Cause you'll need to keep that cup full. 110 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,560 I just going to have to keep refilling it over here because it is not the same. 111 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,560 All right. 112 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,600 Oh no. 113 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,880 That is very blonde, Chris. 114 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:48,880 Are you okay? 115 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,400 I'm going to power through it. 116 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,400 Okay. 117 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,400 Wow. 118 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,400 Okay. 119 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,400 You are going to power through it. 120 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,400 It just keeps coming. 121 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,560 I want to make sure that I get my half. 122 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,560 You get your half. 123 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,240 You get my half and your half. 124 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,240 32 ounces. 125 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,440 Yeah, it's only 4.4 though. 126 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,320 All right. 127 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,320 I like it. 128 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,280 I'm taking a picture of mine. 129 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:15,000 I'm going to pass this small jug to you. 130 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,000 It's okay. 131 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,960 I got it by the handle the way you're supposed to. 132 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,440 I should drink it out of this instead of using my heck yes mug. 133 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,240 I just sit over here. 134 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,520 Look like an old moonshiner. 135 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,520 Like a moonshiner. 136 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,520 Yeah. 137 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,840 I mean, I love these old 64 ounce. 138 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:32,840 Yeah. 139 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:36,800 Whatever you call them. 140 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:37,800 Not tumblers. 141 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,800 Growler. 142 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,800 Growler. 143 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,800 Thank you. 144 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,800 You said it a second ago. 145 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,840 I just couldn't come up with it while I was trying not to pour the beer on my pants. 146 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:44,840 Okay. 147 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:47,080 I'm psyching myself up for this. 148 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,280 It's going to be great. 149 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:53,200 Just think I am super hot and sweaty and I don't. 150 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,840 I'm just trying to get some electrolytes in my body. 151 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:58,840 That's what you need to think. 152 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,840 All right. 153 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:03,200 Hey, cheers. 154 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,200 I'm sorry, Chris. 155 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,720 Okay. 156 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,440 So here's the thing. 157 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:22,880 If you are into paler beers, I need you to know that this is the equivalent of in my 158 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:29,600 mind, people that make fun of me for not being a real coffee drinker. 159 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:35,000 I'm like doubly not a real coffee drinker because not only do I have milk in my coffee, 160 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,000 which is what my grandmother always used to say, if you put milk in your coffee, you're 161 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,280 not a real coffee drinker. 162 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:47,120 But not only am I not a real coffee drinker because I put milk in my coffee, I put chocolate 163 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,160 in that milk that goes in my coffee. 164 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,680 So that's really the only kind of coffee that I like. 165 00:06:53,680 --> 00:07:06,320 This to me is like that where it's like it tastes more like beers that are this light 166 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,320 to me. 167 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,560 And I don't mean like calories because it's not a light beer, is it? 168 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:13,560 They don't say it is. 169 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,240 Please tell me it's not a light beer. 170 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:30,000 So the lighter colored beers generally to me just don't taste like anything. 171 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,560 It's like those sparkling waters that are all like the rage now. 172 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,160 And people will be like, oh, it's got lime in it. 173 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,200 And it's like, yeah, not very much. 174 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,120 It's not like it's sprite. 175 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,800 I'm finding it hard to believe that that's a 20 on the IBU. 176 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,280 Is it bitter, dude? 177 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Because to me, there was way more bitter there than I expected. 178 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,560 The reason that I think that you've got that on your tongue is because there's not much 179 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,120 other flavor. 180 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,840 Perhaps. 181 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,840 That's what I'm saying. 182 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,320 There's not really anything to it. 183 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:07,280 It's more like water than it's like anything else. 184 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,000 That's a personal opinion. 185 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Take it for what it is. 186 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,200 Are you going to power through? 187 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,200 I'm going to power through. 188 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,920 It's not horrible. 189 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:21,520 I mean, you've got to really be bad to be worse than Old Rasputin. 190 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,560 Oh my gosh, that was terrible. 191 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Horrible. 192 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:30,920 And I will say, real quick, if you heard the last show, the beer selection was a little 193 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:31,920 rough. 194 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,920 Yeah. 195 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,640 We're on a streak right now. 196 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:36,640 Yeah, we are. 197 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,640 I don't know what to do with this. 198 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,720 So this is a step up from those. 199 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,120 But what I will say for those beers, they actually made us talk about the beer. 200 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,400 And that's the one thing I've been saying that we need to do more of on the show. 201 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,280 We need to talk a little more on the front end about the beer because it's pretty much 202 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,280 a drink. 203 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,280 Oh, that's great. 204 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,280 All right. 205 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,280 What are we talking about? 206 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,280 Yeah. 207 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,200 And I would say like beer, I think for us, you talked about being a snob. 208 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,520 Yes, I am. 209 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:06,680 I'll call that knowing what you like because there are people out there that love this 210 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:07,680 stuff. 211 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:09,520 Like this is beer to them. 212 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,040 They're like, this is amazing. 213 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,440 I mean, there are people that like IPAs and I'm like, I don't know what's wrong with 214 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,440 you. 215 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:16,440 But brain damage. 216 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:25,360 They intentionally made it not good so that it could survive going around the horn of 217 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,360 Africa. 218 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,360 Yes. 219 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:33,000 Because if they didn't, it wouldn't travel the distance. 220 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,600 So they made it not good. 221 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,320 It's not supposed to taste like that. 222 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:47,920 It's supposed to be in a boat for another couple of months and gross. 223 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,520 But people like it. 224 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,520 And I'm like, okay. 225 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,920 Whatever you say, man. 226 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,040 But like, I mean, this is the kind of beer that I started drinking. 227 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,600 When I first started drinking beer, there was not much taste to it. 228 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,840 You had to put a lime in it sometimes. 229 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:06,840 Yeah. 230 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,920 I couldn't touch Guinness at that point when I started. 231 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:09,920 It was too much. 232 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,920 Yeah. 233 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,760 No, I totally get that. 234 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:18,080 But it's that like, oh, no, like there's a taste here that you don't realize. 235 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,160 And you know, you get bit like I did. 236 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:28,320 I don't remember the first dark beer that I drank, but it's like, it just was a little 237 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,080 bit gross. 238 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,320 It was not Guinness. 239 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,040 But it made me like, oh, no, I don't like dark beers. 240 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,040 You do. 241 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,040 You just don't. 242 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,040 You don't know it yet. 243 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,680 And I would say like there's lighter beers, lighter beers, like lighter lagers. 244 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:47,280 I like reds or some reds. 245 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:53,920 There have been some lighter lagers that I felt like have had plenty of taste to them. 246 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,320 This is not one of them. 247 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,320 Yeah. 248 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,320 They. 249 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,560 This is a little natty light for me, if you know what I'm saying. 250 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:03,800 It's been a long time since I've had a natty light. 251 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,240 Just I'm just saying like, and I feel like you're disrespecting the natty light. 252 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,200 I'm not disrespecting the natty light. 253 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,840 I'm just saying there are beers that are supposed to be drank really cold. 254 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,840 Sure. 255 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,120 That is one of them. 256 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,400 And that is one of them. 257 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,440 I think I think probably, and this is cold. 258 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,400 Like good job keeping everything cold. 259 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,440 Chris cheers to you. 260 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:27,560 But I feel like it's supposed to be maybe sub 32 degrees. 261 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:28,560 Yeah. 262 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:29,560 That's the key with Natty. 263 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:34,600 When you can get it to where the ice chips are starting to form, boy, it just takes on 264 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,600 a whole nother level. 265 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:44,000 Man, any beer that has like there's like a some one of the flavors and especially it, 266 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,440 it's definitely more prevalent in this type of beer to me. 267 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,040 It tastes like soap. 268 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,040 That's the best way. 269 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,560 Like the like Dawn dish soap. 270 00:11:55,560 --> 00:12:00,120 That's that's there's a little like I don't know what that is that causes that. 271 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,160 But every once in a while when I'm drinking these beers, I'm like, did they just clean 272 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,560 this cup? 273 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:11,960 Well, they talk about hint of lemon. 274 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:18,280 I mean, maybe like the citrusy like I guess there's a bite a little bit. 275 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,160 And as I've taken a few more drinks, it's like the bitter has started that I was detecting 276 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,160 has started to fade. 277 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,920 But it was really bitter, like on the side of my tongue. 278 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,920 Yeah. 279 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:28,920 That first couple of drinks. 280 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:36,560 I definitely feel like it should be higher in alcohol content so that, you know, we get 281 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:39,960 through this faster. 282 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,000 Anyway, 4.4 just means you can drink that many more ounces. 283 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Yeah. 284 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:52,240 So this is, you know, a couple bucks and tell us what you what you think about beer and 285 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:58,360 what you prefer, because if you're one of those IPA guys, we're probably going to make 286 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,360 fun of you. 287 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,320 But there's a lot of them. 288 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,320 There are a lot out there. 289 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,320 Doesn't mean they can't be wrong. 290 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,280 You go to fresh and it seems like that's all you see. 291 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,520 Yeah, I don't get it, man. 292 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,400 It's like, yuck. 293 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,400 Yep. 294 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,680 That's why we're friends. 295 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:20,640 That's not why we're friends. 296 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaking of friends, I wanted to take this show and kind of talk a little bit about technology 297 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,000 bringing us together. 298 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,220 OK. 299 00:13:33,220 --> 00:13:36,760 Not just us, but people. 300 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,760 Right. 301 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:46,020 So one of the like we're we're obviously bought into this. 302 00:13:46,020 --> 00:13:47,760 We are podcasting. 303 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,760 Right. 304 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,600 So if nothing else, we I think we talked about this to begin with. 305 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,840 If nothing else, this is an opportunity for me and you to get together. 306 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:03,480 So there's just community building at the very not community building. 307 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,480 It's like community. 308 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,540 I almost said management. 309 00:14:09,540 --> 00:14:11,880 That's not good either. 310 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,880 We're maintaining relationship here. 311 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,880 Yes. 312 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,600 And that's the one of the goals is just to be able to get together and talk about things 313 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,080 that we are interested in. 314 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,080 Yeah. 315 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Beer and gear. 316 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,080 Very easy. 317 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Yep. 318 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:33,840 This is not really a gear as much podcast in today's episode. 319 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:40,200 We're going to talk a little bit about software because their podcasts, I think, do a great 320 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:47,360 job of not only going the step beyond like you and me talking, but we're we're we are 321 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,320 making it possible for other people to join in in that conversation. 322 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,320 Yes. 323 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:57,600 That's the hope, at least one of the hopes is that other people would be able to listen 324 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,480 to it and be like, I agree. 325 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,980 I don't agree. 326 00:15:00,980 --> 00:15:03,480 This is part of this. 327 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,000 This is for me. 328 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,160 I think it has more to do with this or that or, you know, whatever the conversation, wherever 329 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,480 the conversation would take us inside of I prefer this gear. 330 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,600 I prefer this gear. 331 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:20,160 I mean, I'm actually surprised there's not more of that with people just being really 332 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,720 excited about sharing their divisive opinion sometimes. 333 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,160 But yeah, I guess for a lot of that, you've got to go to YouTube. 334 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,160 Everybody wants video. 335 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,160 They want to see it. 336 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,160 I get that. 337 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,880 You know, like when we were doing the audio signal gear, it would have been nice for people 338 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:37,880 to be able to see it. 339 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,880 Yeah. 340 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,000 And I think another way of doing that is chapter art. 341 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Yeah. 342 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,480 And so you can throw up an image of what exactly it is that you're talking about. 343 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,160 And if you don't know what we're talking about with chapter art, it's because you're not 344 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,160 using the right podcast. 345 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Yes. 346 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,960 You need a podcasting 2.0 app. 347 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:54,960 Yeah. 348 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,120 Find a podcasting 2.0 app. 349 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,680 A modern podcast app. 350 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,680 Modern. 351 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,680 Yeah. 352 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Get away from the app. 353 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,200 I think we're both using Fountain right now, I think. 354 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,640 I am podcast addict. 355 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,080 Oh, podcast addict. 356 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Yes. 357 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,080 Okay. 358 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,080 Fountain's a great app. 359 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,080 Fountain's a great app. 360 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,080 Cross platform. 361 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,080 Cross platform. 362 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,200 Got to love that. 363 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:23,320 Like there's, anyway, again, talking about part of this, we're not talking politics. 364 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,320 No. 365 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,320 We're not talking politics. 366 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,780 We're not going to talk politics. 367 00:16:26,780 --> 00:16:29,600 That's not what we're going to do in this podcast. 368 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,520 But that's the new show that we'll start. 369 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:41,320 I think that we are all very aware of how divided a lot of opinions are in a lot of 370 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,760 different areas. 371 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,320 Yes. 372 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,880 Some people are Apple and some people are not. 373 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,440 That's not people are not. 374 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Okay. 375 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,000 I'm just, I'm saying. 376 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Here's the thing though. 377 00:16:54,440 --> 00:17:04,480 If you only ever hear from the other non-Apple people, you miss half of the conversation. 378 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,480 Yeah. 379 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,840 You get caught in an echo chamber. 380 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,080 Same for the other side of it. 381 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,080 Yes. 382 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:14,600 So I'm just saying apply that to whatever political stuff you want. 383 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:21,360 And the point is, I think inside of all of this different technology allowing different 384 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:33,200 modes of these communication, we just have to be really careful not to allow ourselves 385 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,000 to be only echo chambered. 386 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Yeah. 387 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Inside of it. 388 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,720 Because the algorithm will get you. 389 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,640 Have friends that are saying the things that you don't want to hear. 390 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:52,960 Have friends that are telling you that FaceTime is not as important as you think it is. 391 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,600 Blue bubbles are not all that matters. 392 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,820 Green bubbles are not the enemy. 393 00:18:00,820 --> 00:18:05,080 Though sometimes they really mess things up. 394 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,680 I guess technically I still maybe show up as a green bubble. 395 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,800 Oh, not technically. 396 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,480 You are definitely a green bubble. 397 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:17,000 But because of the integration now, I can see when I've sent it to you. 398 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,040 I can see when you read it. 399 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,840 I can see when you're typing. 400 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:27,580 So I mean, some of that iMessage type of interaction is there. 401 00:18:27,580 --> 00:18:32,080 If that's lemon, it's the Rhine of the lemon. 402 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,640 Sorry. 403 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,800 Yes. 404 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,240 You can see these different things. 405 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,440 Yes. 406 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,160 All green bubble. 407 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,160 But you got to be able to listen to the green bubble. 408 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,160 I'm just saying. 409 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:55,160 And so like all of that being said, there's a couple different things that have been brought 410 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,440 up to me lately. 411 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,360 The reason that I wanted to talk about this to begin with was actually a guy who was telling 412 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:02,920 me that he was interested in podcast stuff. 413 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,840 I was like, great, let's go talk podcast stuff. 414 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,080 And then he's like, actually, I'm kind of moving towards instead of just doing a podcast, 415 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,360 I'm looking at Mighty Networks. 416 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:14,400 And I was like, I have no idea what you're talking about. 417 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:20,840 So when someone says that and it's tech related to me, I go look up what the heck they're 418 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:21,840 talking about. 419 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,840 Check it out. 420 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:28,760 So Mighty Networks is a cool platform. 421 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:37,200 They have decided to try to take things a little bit further than they, I would say, 422 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,600 has been, it's not further. 423 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,600 That's the wrong word. 424 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,480 They've tried to group some things that aren't always grouped together. 425 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:53,880 Most of the time, I really applaud, like, if you've got something that you're good at, 426 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,200 stay in that lane. 427 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,200 Yes. 428 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:02,200 Like, I depend on you to do the thing that I depend on you to do really well, because 429 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,680 you do it better than everyone else. 430 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,800 I want you to keep doing that. 431 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,840 You get all convoluted in trying to do everybody else's job and then all of a sudden, your 432 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:19,920 other stuff is not as good or you don't pay any attention to the feedback inside of it 433 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,280 and you think that you know, we know what they want. 434 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,360 We'll give them what they want. 435 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:27,080 They just don't know they want it yet. 436 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,360 That sounds like the Apple approach. 437 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:32,840 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's Steve Jobs' trademark. 438 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:41,200 But all that to say, so like things like YouTube, they're a video platform, right? 439 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,200 This is what they do. 440 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,200 Yep. 441 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,200 Instagram was a photo platform. 442 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,200 Yes. 443 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,880 And then it was like, you know, we really want to do is to be able to compete with things 444 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,880 like YouTube. 445 00:20:52,880 --> 00:21:00,280 And it was like, look, guys, and then it's like Facebook, all the all the things. 446 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:12,680 I'm not saying that you can't expand your, you know, whatever you're doing, but you got 447 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,680 to do with a little more like thought than reaction. 448 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,680 Correct. 449 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,880 What it looks like Mighty is trying to do is they're trying to start with we're going 450 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,900 to we're going to pull in a lot of different things. 451 00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:29,860 So they they call themselves a community platform. 452 00:21:29,860 --> 00:21:38,080 The idea is that it makes it easy for somebody who's making content, not just making content, 453 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:45,280 but like also maybe doing online courses or hosting events of some kind, whether that's 454 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:51,960 teaching or network building, I'm sure, or anything like that, like that they would have 455 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:57,320 one place that they're trying to bring a community together inside of. 456 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:04,480 Now this gets a little bit strange because as I'm like thinking about it and trying to 457 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:13,040 wrap my head around it, the idea that my friend had that that was more like wellness related 458 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,680 where they're they're trying to get information that they have out about living a healthy 459 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,520 lifestyle in a bunch of different way, like not ways, but like aspects of what that means 460 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,640 and healthy lifestyle. 461 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,840 There's a lot of things to talk about and what I like about it is that as a community 462 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:34,360 you're using a community platform, you're going to bring in people from a lot of different 463 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:43,840 walks of life where that like only getting one opinion. 464 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:52,720 Not necessarily going to happen or only one seeing one like form of thought. 465 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,720 Not as likely. 466 00:22:53,720 --> 00:23:01,640 Anyway, so this got me thinking and I was like, okay, I Chris, I know, I know that you 467 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,640 are a huge fan of social media. 468 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:10,720 Let me tell you, you I mean, it's like the day social media came out, you were like, 469 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,040 finally, all of my prayers have been answered. 470 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:20,520 Aside from seeing Michelle, this is the best day of my life. 471 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,760 Best thing ever. 472 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:28,720 All kinds of sarcasm dripping inside of that. 473 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:35,400 But the idea that social media is not our favorite thing, it should not be anybody's 474 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,280 like, whatever. 475 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:46,320 But how do people like us leverage the technology that we have at our fingertips to be able 476 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:58,200 to collaborate, to be able to share ideas, to be able to bounce questions off of each 477 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:06,600 other, to be able to have like, oh, I ran into something. 478 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,000 Has anybody else seen this or know of an answer? 479 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:19,200 And actually have any kind of, I guess, structure to that that's not, well, I'm going to Google 480 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,600 it. 481 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,240 And then if I don't get the answer that I want, I'm going to YouTube it. 482 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,760 And I'd always rather talk to my friends than whatever, because I got some really smart 483 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,280 friends. 484 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:42,120 Chris and I live in a very underrated community here in Tyler, Texas. 485 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:48,680 There's quite a lot of snobbery that is pointed at us from other places. 486 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,000 Number one, we're in Texas. 487 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:58,520 So obviously we ride horses to work and cowboy hats and the whole night don't know what a 488 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,600 car is. 489 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,200 We don't know this is a sophisticated part of life. 490 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,360 Yes, no, we're not sophisticated at all. 491 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:07,040 And you know, there's an element of that. 492 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,560 I was watching Braveheart again the other day. 493 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,480 Yeah, I didn't see that in a while. 494 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,480 So good still. 495 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:24,880 And he's getting talked behind his back, but in front of him when he's talking to the princess 496 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,320 and her advisor or whatever is talking to her in Latin and doesn't know that he speaks 497 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:34,440 Latin and he says that he never lies, but he is a savage. 498 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,640 And that's that like, I mean, I feel like that so many times when people talk about 499 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:44,160 Texas, I'm like, I mean, yeah, we are probably the things that you think that we are. 500 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,840 We're also not the things that you think that we are. 501 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,520 And you don't necessarily care that you think that. 502 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,520 Correct. 503 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,320 But it does mean that sometimes we get kind of pigeonholed into this. 504 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,200 Don't know what they're talking about side of things. 505 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:07,840 And not only are we in Texas, we're in East Texas, which is. 506 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:08,920 It's not Dallas. 507 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,560 It's not Dallas. 508 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,960 And it's not West Texas. 509 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,040 No, it's not. 510 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,520 Which I just want to say that's a whole nother animal out there. 511 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,520 West Texas is maybe what you're thinking Texas is. 512 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,100 Not you, but like, well, people that think of Texas, like, I would say if you're picturing 513 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:28,600 a desert right now, you're picturing West Texas. 514 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,880 That's what you're picturing as a kid. 515 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,840 When my grandparents was down here, Indiana, you weren't here originally. 516 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,840 No, no, no, no, no. 517 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,500 And so even even before my grandparents moved here, you hear Texas. 518 00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:44,180 It's instantly Cowboys and Indians Cowboys and Indians. 519 00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:48,760 And then my grandparents moved down here and you're on the phone like, are you all seeing 520 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,760 the cactuses? 521 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,760 No, no, no, no. 522 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,760 Not a single one. 523 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,760 No. 524 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,760 And I'm like, but you're in Texas. 525 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,760 Yeah. 526 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,560 Well, then where's the cactus at? 527 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,040 Well, it's not like that in this part of Texas. 528 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,480 About seven hours that way. 529 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,480 Yes. 530 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,140 So yeah, I mean, I totally get that outside perspective that people have of Texas of thinking 531 00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:12,720 one thing and we happen to be in part of Texas that just is not that. 532 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,400 But you could you go out past Fort Worth. 533 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,400 Yeah. 534 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,280 Get an hour or so out. 535 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,280 Yeah. 536 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,760 There's the Texas that people are thinking of. 537 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,020 Oh, yeah. 538 00:27:23,020 --> 00:27:28,960 And I'm still I don't know, 10 hours away from El Paso. 539 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,280 Yes. 540 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,280 And this is going to look like this for a while. 541 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,280 Yes. 542 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:39,480 I'm just saying Big Bend is really pretty, but there's nothing to look at when you're 543 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,640 driving out that way. 544 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,640 Correct. 545 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,640 I totally get that. 546 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,320 There's a whole lot of Texas that's not that. 547 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,320 Yeah. 548 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:51,040 And I would say there's for those of you that are mad at us about other things, there's 549 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,600 a whole lot of Texas that's not that either. 550 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,600 Correct. 551 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,680 And maybe there's a lot of Texas that is what you're thinking. 552 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,320 So I don't care. 553 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:06,520 But all that to say, I've got really smart friends and I would like to ask them because 554 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,700 even if they don't have the answer, I'm pretty sure they can find the answer. 555 00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:23,240 So like there's the like I want to be able to leverage the technology that we have and 556 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:29,920 the tools that are at our disposal to be able to actually build community. 557 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,040 And I'm not necessarily saying that it has to be the people around me that live here 558 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,440 or anything like that. 559 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,160 But if I could just not have it be everyone, that'd be great. 560 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,160 Sure. 561 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,160 Enter Mastodon. 562 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,760 Yeah, I know a little bit about Mastodon. 563 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,720 All right, let's talk about Mastodon. 564 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,720 Okay, yeah. 565 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,720 So Mastodon. 566 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,440 We're going to be tooting folks. 567 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,920 You know that's what it's called, right? 568 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,920 Yeah. 569 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,920 Okay. 570 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:00,920 You just you went quiet on me. 571 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,920 I did. 572 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,920 What's he talking about? 573 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,760 I was hoping we could like we just talked about Texas and not being if we could if we 574 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:14,920 could not have the like blazing saddles like where the white women. 575 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,400 Oh, movies that you can't make anymore. 576 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,800 Oh, man. 577 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:34,720 Anyway, so the you know, their tagline on their the top tagline or whatever on their 578 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:40,480 in Mastodon.org website is social networking that's not for sale. 579 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,480 Yes. 580 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,560 The idea, though, is is less about I guess not not having ads. 581 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,960 Well, maybe maybe it is mostly that's where they started. 582 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,960 I don't actually know the story here. 583 00:29:50,960 --> 00:30:01,000 But what is appealing to this to me inside of this is the idea that you can you can create 584 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:11,160 a server for your particular community community. 585 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,160 Yeah. 586 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,160 Yeah. 587 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,040 And Mastodon is what old school Twitter was. 588 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,040 Yes. 589 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,040 There is school Twitter. 590 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,640 It was literally just it rolled on pass. 591 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,160 And if you missed it, you missed it. 592 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:30,160 There wasn't all this curation and there's not Mastodon doesn't have algorithm. 593 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,240 To feed the things to you. 594 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,040 I mean, it's literally just this giant river of posts. 595 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,440 And if you missed it, you missed it. 596 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:48,120 So yeah, I was on Mastodon for a little while for the new agenda podcast. 597 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,280 They had their own instance. 598 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,600 And so that was a whole community built around that podcast. 599 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,860 Right. 600 00:30:55,860 --> 00:30:57,720 Then they got some bad apples in the mix. 601 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,880 Oh, and it kind of disbanded. 602 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,640 And then that was kind of my last stint of anything social media. 603 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,120 And that was probably two or three years ago now. 604 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,520 Sand Chris. 605 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,500 But you can stand up your own to your point. 606 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:14,500 You can run. 607 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:16,520 You can literally run this on some computer at home. 608 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,960 Doesn't have to be anything special. 609 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:24,360 Or there are companies who will run it for you in their cloud. 610 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,360 Yeah. 611 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,360 Hosted. 612 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,360 Yep. 613 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,120 It's a good platform. 614 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:40,520 So it's that like the idea of creating a space and being able to like kind of fly under the 615 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,860 radar with what's going on. 616 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:52,640 What do we say about one of the things that's been fun, you know, because we've we've talked 617 00:31:52,640 --> 00:32:02,120 about Windows and Apple for a long, long, long, long, long time now. 618 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:07,220 One of the things that we that I remember from early on in our conversations was the 619 00:32:07,220 --> 00:32:12,440 idea that innovation always drives more innovation. 620 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,440 It does. 621 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,440 Yeah, absolutely. 622 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,040 There's always that competition is going to drive innovation. 623 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:27,720 Yes, the the idea that one person being able to tweak something and make something or make 624 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:36,000 something new or whatever is going to explode ideas all over the place and and just being 625 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:50,200 able to be in a spot where you can be a little bit freer with that, where you can have ideas 626 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,680 or you can have questions and not having to worry about it like we we're all trying to 627 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,200 belong as human beings in all these different aspects. 628 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:08,440 We have our identity, who we, you know, have found ourselves to be or been told that we 629 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,440 are. 630 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:17,520 And then we have, you know, our peers, the group of people that we belong with. 631 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,520 And then we have our heroes. 632 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:27,680 And those are the people that we try to attain to, that we want to be one of, you know, that 633 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,680 type of thing. 634 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:34,280 And and I think having. 635 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:40,880 Having more of these opportunities is not reinventing the wheel. 636 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,320 Like, you know, social media is what it is. 637 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,640 But I don't know about you, but it just like sucks the life out of me. 638 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,400 Yeah, human beings were not made for social media. 639 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,480 It doesn't seem like it. 640 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,480 No. 641 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,920 We just don't we don't work that way. 642 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:05,400 We've never had this level of communication amongst ourselves. 643 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,240 For essentially all the existence of mankind. 644 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:12,600 And so now you're getting blasted by everybody from everywhere. 645 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,880 Now, anybody can say anything they want, how they want, whenever they want. 646 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,520 And people are going to be more brash and bold to speak up on social media than they 647 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,800 would ever be face to face. 648 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,800 Oh, gosh, no. 649 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,840 So it really brings out some of the worst parts of people. 650 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,040 And then you've got the impact that it has on kids, especially young girls. 651 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,440 And all they're seeing is this perfection. 652 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,400 Well, I don't have that in my life. 653 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,400 What's wrong with me? 654 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,400 Right. 655 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,400 I don't look like that. 656 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,400 What's wrong with me? 657 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,720 You know, and there's even grown people who, once they get into social media, they still 658 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:53,480 have some of those very same struggles and challenges. 659 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,120 Oh, you just can't, they just can't separate it. 660 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:04,320 It is like the number of times that Laurie talks about, that my wife talks about, you 661 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:09,160 know, that she's not being a good mother or she's not, you know, being a good wife or 662 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,160 something like that. 663 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,360 I'm like, where are you getting that? 664 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,320 And it is all about comparison. 665 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:23,400 And I'm not saying that you wouldn't like compare yourself to each other in any community. 666 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:30,880 But when you're talking like all of the women in all of the world and you're only seeing 667 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,880 the curated part of their lives, like that's not healthy. 668 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,120 No, very, very few people actually put the real thing on social media. 669 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,120 Yeah. 670 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,000 And then also the like, it's either like they're showing you their best day or their worst 671 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000 day. 672 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Yeah. 673 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,120 And the worst days, you know, mean that you've got, you know, empathy fatigue all the time 674 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,720 because you're bearing everyone's tragedies all the time as well. 675 00:35:55,720 --> 00:36:00,920 And that's been hard for me lately to try to deal with is just the idea that like I 676 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:12,960 cannot, it's not that I'm heartless because I know that I care very deeply for, I mean, 677 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,960 a lot. 678 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,960 Yeah. 679 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:22,840 But like the number of times that I cannot catch my breath because I go from one death 680 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,960 or severe chronic illness to another, to another, to another. 681 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:35,880 And it's just not a good situation. 682 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:44,880 And makes it hard to still feel actual grief for the person who's right in front of you. 683 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,040 I get home, my son's having a bad day. 684 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,760 I don't want to hear about it. 685 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,760 Sure. 686 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,760 Yeah. 687 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,320 Why are you having a bad, don't have a bad day. 688 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,320 I've got to carry everybody else's bad day. 689 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,320 Yep. 690 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,320 You're not allowed to have a bad day. 691 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,320 Yeah. 692 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:02,920 Let me tell you what, my son should be allowed to have a bad day with his daddy. 693 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,920 Yeah. 694 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:14,000 And it's that type of thing with you and me being able to sit here and talk about what 695 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,400 that actually looks like. 696 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,000 That's the community I want. 697 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,000 Sure. 698 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,000 Yeah. 699 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:27,440 So, I mean, you know, there's the idea of, do you limit community by only limiting or 700 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,920 only having it around part of the time? 701 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:37,480 Like we do a show every two weeks. 702 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,120 I mean, I'd like to talk more often. 703 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:51,880 So, the timing of it has been more just life getting busy for, you know, your life has 704 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:52,880 been busy. 705 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,880 Sure. 706 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,600 My life is getting busier right now and then someday we'll ship our kids off to college 707 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,960 too. 708 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:19,080 But you know, but what, I guess what handcuffs do you put on the technology in order to actually 709 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,560 create real community instead of just fake community, which is what most social media 710 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,560 looks like? 711 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:30,820 Yeah, that's tough because, I mean, you're just talking about the basic human nature 712 00:38:30,820 --> 00:38:33,560 and how do you restrict that? 713 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:41,320 Yeah, I don't know how you put guardrails on that for the general, you know, I mean, 714 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,440 I know what I've done for my kids. 715 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,280 You know, it's been no social media. 716 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,280 Yeah. 717 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,080 You know, Garrett didn't get social media until he was 19 years old. 718 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,920 And even now there's still some times when we're like, hold up, pump the brakes there, 719 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,760 you know, and I've got a 15 year old daughter who's like, well, why can't I have Instagram 720 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,760 and TikTok? 721 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,760 Everybody else has it. 722 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,760 I'm like, yeah. 723 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,840 And without being too rude, look at how they're doing. 724 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:08,840 Yeah. 725 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,840 Hey, their parents don't love them. 726 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,840 Yes. 727 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:11,840 That was rude. 728 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,840 Yes. 729 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,520 So yeah, it's just one of the things like, and even with my wife, there are times that 730 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:21,240 I have to tell her you really need to turn that off. 731 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:22,720 You know, and she's only on Facebook. 732 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:27,320 You know, she's not into all the, all the others, but there are just times that it's 733 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,040 just kind of like, okay, you need to turn that off. 734 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:36,400 You need a digital detox because you're just consuming too much junk and it's, and it's 735 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,240 impacting you and it's, we need to step away. 736 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:47,840 So in terms of putting barriers and controls on that, that's, that's tough to do with the 737 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,840 general public. 738 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,700 I mean, yeah, you could have somebody who is essentially the policeman. 739 00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:58,640 Like if we, if we had our own mastodon instance, you could have a moderator on there who's 740 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:05,160 trying to keep things in check and under control and remind people of, Hey, this isn't acceptable 741 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,160 here. 742 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,600 Or, but you know, you know, I don't know that you can honestly control it. 743 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:16,720 It's just the broken nature of man. 744 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:20,440 I mean, yes, absolutely. 745 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:30,920 Yeah, that, that brokenness is, is, is pretty unquestioned over here. 746 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,920 Correct. 747 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:46,640 It's just, it has more to do with the next step because I, I, I don't want to, like when 748 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,720 you don't trust media outlets anymore, you just stop, stop watching media outlets. 749 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:52,720 Yeah. 750 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:53,720 Okay. 751 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:58,360 But there are things that are happening that don't really get talked about anywhere else 752 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,000 other than on media outlets. 753 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:08,640 And I just need a place that tells me what's happening without trying to editorialize it 754 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,640 all the time. 755 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,640 Sure. 756 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,860 But it's that type of thing where you're like, okay, so how do I take the good parts of social 757 00:41:15,860 --> 00:41:21,320 media without it obviously just turning into Facebook for our people? 758 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,320 You know what I mean? 759 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,320 Yeah. 760 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:33,760 Well, I'm definitely in that category that stopped watching the news media probably 2013, 761 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,960 2014 really started to step away. 762 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:44,040 And then by the 2016 election was just completely out of it. 763 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,960 You know, just kind of saw the left was going to go one way. 764 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,160 The right was going to go another way. 765 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,600 There really was nothing in the middle. 766 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,600 Nope. 767 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,920 And so just kind of cut it out. 768 00:41:53,920 --> 00:42:01,440 And I guess to me, the therapy there to keep me sane has been the no agenda podcast. 769 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,400 They do media deconstruction. 770 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:08,640 So they pull this, they go with whatever's in the media and then pull those stories in 771 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:14,000 and then kind of dig in behind it and try to show, okay, so these guys are so, so they 772 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,880 are slanted this way and these guys are kind of slanted this way. 773 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:23,480 And you're at least getting some knowledge of what's going on in the world without getting 774 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:29,080 feeling like you're being indoctrinated or propaganda. 775 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,200 But then there are just sometimes that, you know, it's just such a wonderful thing to 776 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,480 just not listen, just shut it off. 777 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,920 Don't even think about it. 778 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,920 The world is mad. 779 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,200 Let the world be mad. 780 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,880 I'm just going to sit here in my own, in my own home with my family and I'm just going 781 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,440 to pretend that there's nothing else going on right now. 782 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,080 Cause I just want to turn my brain off. 783 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,080 Yeah. 784 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:59,920 But I recognize that you can't be an ostrich and just stick your head in the sand and just 785 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,400 act like there's nothing going on. 786 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,400 Right. 787 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,400 Yeah. 788 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:13,040 I mean, you can, but I don't know how effective that would be. 789 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,040 Yeah. 790 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:21,880 And then I guess the closest thing that I've seen to trying to help a person stay grounded 791 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,600 with the news is, have you heard of ground news? 792 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:33,900 As I'm saying, being grounded, it's ground.news and their whole schtick is they try to show 793 00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:37,160 you this particular story is left, right or center. 794 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,160 Okay. 795 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,780 So that you can kind of understand the bent behind a given story. 796 00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:45,240 And then you can say, I want to see only what's left. 797 00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:46,560 I want to only see what's right. 798 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,240 I want to only see what's center. 799 00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:55,840 And it kind of gives the individual an ability to kind of cater what you see. 800 00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:02,920 And it can help you try to minimize some of that echo chamber. 801 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,880 Yeah. 802 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,200 Things like that though. 803 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:15,640 Like this is a way to make technology work for you in a way that's not, I feel like more 804 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,360 harmful than it is helpful. 805 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,360 Sure. 806 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,160 Cause that's what it seems like social media is now. 807 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,160 Absolutely. 808 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,120 Well, yeah, it's all because of the algorithm. 809 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,560 You know, the algorithm goes, oh, that gets you fired up. 810 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,480 I'm going to give you more of it. 811 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,480 Yeah. 812 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,800 And then tick tock is the opposite. 813 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,600 Tick tock is going, Oh, you like that? 814 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,240 I'm going to give you more of that. 815 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:43,440 So now you're getting echo chambered into in a completely different way, right? 816 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,600 Instead of having something thrown at you, that's constantly going to keep you worked 817 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,800 up and upset and angry. 818 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,800 They're going to pigeonhole you into this one thing. 819 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,000 And you're just going to see like everybody's like me. 820 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,000 Right. 821 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,360 No, I only hear things that tickle my ears. 822 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,360 Correct. 823 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,640 That's the thing that I have to struggle with. 824 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,160 That's what makes the mastodon interesting again, because there's no algorithm. 825 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,160 Right. 826 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,240 And you can pick any of these instances to be a part of. 827 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:14,840 You can hop around at any time and you then also have, and I don't recommend people do 828 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:23,520 this, but in your mastodon instance is the FETI stream, which is the live stream from 829 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:28,160 all mastodon instances that are federated together. 830 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,160 Really? 831 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,160 Yes. 832 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,640 So for your own insanity, don't go there. 833 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,720 For your own sanity, I should say. 834 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:35,720 For your own insanity. 835 00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,280 If you're looking for your insanity, I found it. 836 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,480 Yes, I found it. 837 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,660 Don't go there. 838 00:45:40,660 --> 00:45:47,040 And then just the sheer junk that people put out there. 839 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,360 It's out there. 840 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,720 So if you're going to go to mastodon, you can typically turn off that tab. 841 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:53,720 Just turn it off. 842 00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:54,720 Just don't, just don't. 843 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:55,720 Don't do it. 844 00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:59,480 No, that's just like sticking your head in the sewer pipe and just seeing what comes 845 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,480 by. 846 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,480 Oh, it's bad. 847 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,920 Thank you for that visual. 848 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:04,920 Yes. 849 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,640 Don't drink it. 850 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,640 Dish soap. 851 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,640 That's what I'm drinking. 852 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,640 Yeah. 853 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,840 Oh, we both drink at the same time. 854 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,840 That's a no-no. 855 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:22,400 Well, the more I drink of it, it's not so bad. 856 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,880 Well yeah, that's kind of the nature of beer. 857 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,320 I mean, if I just drink a whole lot of this, then all of my senses are dulled. 858 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,560 I can't tell what's going on. 859 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,560 Yay. 860 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,560 No. 861 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,640 So, oh, what was that show? 862 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:42,200 Steven, one of my friends, Steven was one of our friends, Steven was telling me about 863 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:55,000 a show that these guys were, they had found or there was a science, scientific discovery 864 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:01,520 or something like this, fictional obviously, that was talking about the human brain actually 865 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:10,880 is made to function at a higher alcohol content than like optimum level of alcohol content 866 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,360 is higher than what we normally think of. 867 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:23,600 So they all just try to maintain this certain level of blood alcohol, whatever. 868 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,720 They're trying to live like this, right? 869 00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:26,720 Wow. 870 00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:34,120 And it's like, well, this guy who's depressive or whatever is having a much better time and 871 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,400 this guy is really creative where he didn't used to be and all this stuff. 872 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:44,960 And of course, the movie-ness of it is that it gets out of hand and all the consequences 873 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:45,960 and life. 874 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,160 Sounds like they're trying to become functional drugs. 875 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,160 Right. 876 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,160 Exactly. 877 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:59,320 I don't know if you know it, Steven, but I was, yeah, sorry, that reminded me. 878 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,800 I wish I knew the name of it. 879 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,800 Where are your friends? 880 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,960 If I was on mastodon with him right now, you could just text him. 881 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,560 Anyway, that's what we need. 882 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,440 We just need a huge group text that we just invite people to. 883 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,040 Well, that's- No, don't say it because then I got to watch 884 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,640 your green bubble all the time. 885 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:26,160 No, I wouldn't go in with the group text. 886 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:35,280 Some of what goes on with a lot of the podcasting 2.0 and I'm going to throw out a term and 887 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,080 it's going to be a throwback term, but it works. 888 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,880 IRC channel. 889 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,240 Do you remember those days? 890 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:44,240 Wow. 891 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,240 Yeah. 892 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:46,240 I mean- 893 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:47,240 Merck, anybody? 894 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:52,840 Yeah, like what exactly is going on? 895 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:59,280 We would be having this conversation as we are now and we would have our own IRC channel 896 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,680 going that we could view and the people who in theory would be listening to us live, which 897 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,520 we haven't got to live yet, by the end of the year, I want to be alive. 898 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:13,280 I'm going to have to figure that out, but the idea is that we'd be having this conversation. 899 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,880 We'd be streaming live. 900 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,240 People will be listening to us. 901 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:22,240 They would be in that IRC channel and they could communicate with us in the show. 902 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:25,280 They could totally just poke fun at us. 903 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,480 A bunch of losers getting drunk. 904 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,680 It's like Twitch right now. 905 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,680 Yeah, pretty much. 906 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:35,160 And so you have that, but you get that interaction with your listeners that makes the show hopefully 907 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,400 more engaging for not only for them, but also for us. 908 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,560 We're talking about something. 909 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,600 We're seeing them responding in near real time and we're seeing that they're actually 910 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,280 enjoying this or they're going, that's boring. 911 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,280 Would you move on? 912 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,680 I mean, why are you just reading the website to me? 913 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,680 Yeah. 914 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,680 Sorry. 915 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,680 Yeah. 916 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,200 So that something like that would come with going live. 917 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:03,440 But again, it's just another way of kind of, you're trying to build a community around 918 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,560 your show and what you're doing. 919 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,560 Right. 920 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,520 And that's just one more level of interaction. 921 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:14,840 I'm just saying we need that interaction. 922 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,840 Yeah. 923 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,480 I think we need actual interaction and we got to do it in a way. 924 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,800 I like the idea. 925 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,240 I guess part of the reason that I like the idea of doing something where it is the people 926 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,280 that it's not, it's not everyone from every whatever. 927 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,960 And you know, Bob, who, you know, nobody actually knows because he's somebody's friend who is 928 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,480 somebody's friend, who's somebody that, you know, 929 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,480 Bill Braskey. 930 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,640 Bill Braskey was a real son of a. 931 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:46,060 So but it was that like, it's the idea that when you've, when you've met somebody face 932 00:50:46,060 --> 00:50:50,280 to face, when you like, if you, especially if you limited to the people that are in the 933 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,680 same town as you, I could run into this guy. 934 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:54,680 Yeah. 935 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,160 I better watch what I'm saying. 936 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,160 Yes. 937 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,200 Like you lower the, you know, take a little bit of that bass out of his voice. 938 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,200 You know what I'm saying? 939 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,080 Don't, don't, nope, you don't, nope. 940 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,080 Yeah. 941 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:14,560 Anyway, that was funny to stumble over there for a little bit. 942 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,280 But yeah, it's just a thing. 943 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:26,280 It's something worth thinking about and trying to, you know, as we're all managing our, how 944 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,560 much we're investing in technology in one way or the other, we got to, we got to look 945 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,560 at that. 946 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:38,880 One of the things that I loved about, um, audio Sigma is how little it asks of you to 947 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:44,560 invest in order to get something that you really want or really could use. 948 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,640 Yes. 949 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,760 I wish more technology was that way. 950 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,760 Absolutely. 951 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:55,400 So we're thinking about anyway, we don't have any boosts. 952 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,400 Do we? 953 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,400 Uh, actually we do. 954 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,400 Okay. 955 00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,400 Believe it or not. 956 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,400 What's up, Jason? 957 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,000 Uh, yes, exactly. 958 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,880 So he and I, and we kind of mentioned this too on the, on a previous show, John, the 959 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,960 Albie apocalypse and kind of what that meant and where are we going to be able to get boost 960 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,200 in or not and what that means. 961 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,000 So he did the test boost. 962 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,000 Okay. 963 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,800 Uh, a hundred sats from Jason and it just says test boost. 964 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,160 Hey, it worked. 965 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,160 It did work. 966 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,160 Yes. 967 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,160 So that was good to see. 968 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,160 Thanks, Jason. 969 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,160 Yes. 970 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,160 And then he followed up with one more. 971 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,160 Okay. 972 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,640 So he's got a podcast and his message is sorry about the mystery beers, John, I didn't care 973 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,120 for either of them either. 974 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,480 Hey, you got to talk more about the beer. 975 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,920 Oh my gosh. 976 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,520 So come to find out he'd never had either of those himself either. 977 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,200 Hey Jason, I don't know if you've been listening to this podcast, but can I, can I recommend 978 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:58,400 a founders logger to you as payback? 979 00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,680 Yes. 980 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,800 So, um, I would agree with him. 981 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,320 The oatmeal stout was better than the solace. 982 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,320 Yeah. 983 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,800 The solace was just rough. 984 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:10,800 Yeah. 985 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,640 But the oatmeal stout was definitely better. 986 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,720 I mean, yeah, it was better, but like, holy cow. 987 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:23,360 I mean, it just, I, again, I don't, it's not, it's not, um, I don't know. 988 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,640 I don't have words for it. 989 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:31,200 Um, it's like you are thinking that you're biting into a nice loaf of sourdough bread 990 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,600 and it ends up being raisin bread or something. 991 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,600 There you go. 992 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:36,600 Yeah. 993 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:41,240 Or, you know, you think you're going to drink a darker pepper and it's sweet tea. 994 00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:42,240 Gross. 995 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:44,640 Oh yeah. 996 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,640 The brain recoils in horror. 997 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,200 Yuck. 998 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,360 Um, anyway, thanks Jason. 999 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,360 I really appreciate you. 1000 00:53:53,360 --> 00:54:01,440 Remind me to buy you a beer of my least favorite beer sometime. 1001 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,000 Get that man an old Rasputin. 1002 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,000 Yeah. 1003 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,600 But we definitely talked about that beer. 1004 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,080 Yeah, we definitely talked about that. 1005 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,320 Most mentioned beer on our podcast is a beer that we hate. 1006 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,840 Uh, yeah. 1007 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:14,840 That's hilarious. 1008 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,840 Yeah. 1009 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,000 I do have one piece of gear to throw at you real quick. 1010 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,000 Okay, throw it to me. 1011 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,000 You may look at. 1012 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,000 Yeah. 1013 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,000 I got my computer right here. 1014 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,720 I'm going to look it up. 1015 00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:24,720 Yes. 1016 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:27,720 The personas quantum. 1017 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:30,600 E S two. 1018 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,600 Okay. 1019 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,680 Don't, don't try to tell me what I'm going to write. 1020 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,200 So be thinking pod mobile. 1021 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,200 Yeah. 1022 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,200 I see the E S four. 1023 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,160 I see the E S two. 1024 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,160 Yes. 1025 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,160 Okay. 1026 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,000 Particularly for me, it's the E S two. 1027 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,000 Okay. 1028 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,400 USB C interface. 1029 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,400 Yeah. 1030 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,920 Which is, I mean, I was expecting this to catch on faster than it has with the audio 1031 00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:00,920 interface world. 1032 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:09,280 I'm like, guys, I'm, if you, if someone else puts a USB B on one of these audio interfaces, 1033 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,320 I'm going to lose my mind. 1034 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,360 I'm looking at you, Berenger. 1035 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,360 Stop it. 1036 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,360 Yep. 1037 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,960 Guys, it's just not, it's not funny anymore. 1038 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,320 I don't know if it was somebody's joke. 1039 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,240 Put it on there as a joke. 1040 00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:22,400 It's going out like that. 1041 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,400 Yep. 1042 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,400 Stop it. 1043 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:29,480 Anyway, so I would put this essentially in the same range as the pod mobile, just because 1044 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,720 you can do two XLR mics. 1045 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:43,440 You can leverage the USB C. You've got your quarter inch out for your monitor. 1046 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,120 It doesn't have some of the DSP features of the pod mobile. 1047 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,120 What's the auto? 1048 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,400 Is that like auto gaining? 1049 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,400 Yes. 1050 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,920 When you would plug in your mic and you'd start talking and you would press auto and 1051 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,760 it will auto adjust for you. 1052 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:57,760 I mean, that's great. 1053 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:05,920 Don't get me wrong, but I would expect, I guess I shouldn't expect to get more for $200, 1054 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,920 but I kind of was, I would hope for more. 1055 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,320 And it's not just honestly, I'm looking at this very quickly. 1056 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,280 It's not just two inputs. 1057 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,280 There is a... 1058 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,280 You have an instrument in on the front. 1059 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,280 You have an instrument in on the front. 1060 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,280 Yes, that's correct. 1061 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,080 Instead of a, it's not headphones on both of those. 1062 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,160 One of them is an instrument in. 1063 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,680 So I wonder if you can do three at a time or if it's like, you can do two at a time, 1064 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,320 but you can plug into the front if you really want to. 1065 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,000 I don't know. 1066 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:38,360 These are all questions that are rolling around in my head. 1067 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,760 So they've got the quantum audio interfaces. 1068 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,760 They have a two, a four. 1069 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:47,760 Then you go to HD. 1070 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,760 Yeah. 1071 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,760 HD two and HD eight. 1072 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:50,760 Is that what I'm seeing? 1073 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:57,760 I thought it was the eight and 16. 1074 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:58,760 Quantum. 1075 00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,760 Yeah. 1076 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,760 HD eight and HD... 1077 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:10,080 Oh, there's a 26 by 26. 1078 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,080 Yeah. 1079 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,120 There's the HD. 1080 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,120 Holy cow. 1081 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,120 No, I guess it is. 1082 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,120 You're right. 1083 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,680 It's the HD two and then it is the HD eight. 1084 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:24,160 The eight is the rack mount, but the eight has the... 1085 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,560 Oh, where is it? 1086 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,760 It's on the back. 1087 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,760 Sorry. 1088 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,960 I walked over to the quantum 2626. 1089 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,640 Oh. 1090 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,440 Which is 26 in, 26 out. 1091 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,160 Just give me a minute. 1092 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,080 I gotta look over this thing real quick. 1093 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,080 Stop showing me the front. 1094 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,080 Okay. 1095 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,040 And it says 26 out. 1096 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,480 It's not actual hard line. 1097 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:54,480 Oh, okay. 1098 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,480 They're doing that with optical. 1099 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,920 Where are you seeing the 26? 1100 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:01,240 Oh, there it is. 1101 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,240 I see it now. 1102 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,840 I see it. 1103 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,160 So that looks like that would go up against the... 1104 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:11,640 Is it the Claret? 1105 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:16,000 There's a few of them. 1106 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:22,480 I'm more interested in how they're getting that number right now. 1107 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:32,880 But anyway, Presonus has a lot of gear that I would say is that... 1108 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,400 Can I say prosumer without it sounding condescending? 1109 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,400 Yeah. 1110 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,400 I cannot make this gear. 1111 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,960 So I always feel like, listen, I'm sorry. 1112 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,000 I'm not trying to offend anyone with the whatever. 1113 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:53,800 It's not like if I'm specking out something that I really need it to be top of the line, 1114 00:58:53,800 --> 00:59:00,960 you just like, let's know who we are, Presonus, Behringer, whatever else. 1115 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,280 They're not in the same conversation as Digico. 1116 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,760 But still really useful. 1117 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,980 And when you're looking at things like audio interfaces where you're like, I need this 1118 00:59:12,980 --> 00:59:17,120 to be reliable, I feel like it does a great job. 1119 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:23,680 So yeah, I think for $200, that's a great find. 1120 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:24,680 Good job. 1121 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:31,040 And the one other bonus on this, if you use their Studio One DAW, you can control the 1122 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,960 interface directly from the DAW. 1123 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:33,960 Oh, nice. 1124 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,760 So there's some really nice integration that they're kind of putting together there. 1125 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:44,800 Yeah, the more these companies get on this understanding of like, if you're plugging 1126 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,280 it into a computer, it needs to be able to interface well. 1127 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,800 I'm all about it. 1128 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,080 Rode looking at you. 1129 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,120 You've got Rode Central, man. 1130 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,200 Yeah, I'm not saying that they're not trying to fix the problem. 1131 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:08,080 I'm saying you've got some great gear. 1132 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,880 Let's focus on the Kinks. 1133 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:10,880 Yeah. 1134 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,880 Come on, Australia. 1135 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:12,880 They're Aussies. 1136 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:21,600 Which is surprising with Blackmagic because, you know, the notorious like, hey, if you 1137 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,440 buy a Blackmagic piece of gear, you need to buy a fan to go with it. 1138 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:31,600 You would expect a country that is, again, much like Texas, stereotyped as being in the 1139 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,600 desert. 1140 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,600 Yep. 1141 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:40,920 But can you, why in the world would you not have an air conditioner running on this air 1142 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:41,920 conditioner? 1143 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,000 You need to work on your cooling system. 1144 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:50,880 Yes, their ventilation definitely leaves you wanting. 1145 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:51,880 Did I tell you about that? 1146 01:00:51,880 --> 01:01:02,320 We got a new, we bought a switcher for one of our rooms to replace. 1147 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,040 We had an old analog way that was awesome. 1148 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,040 Loved that thing. 1149 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,040 It finally died. 1150 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:12,720 And we bought a Blackmagic piece of gear to replace it. 1151 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:17,160 And Chad's first question to me was, did you buy a fan? 1152 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,040 And my answer to him was, I bought two. 1153 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,000 I bought two. 1154 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,000 Can't have this thing going on. 1155 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,120 So there's an intake and an outtake. 1156 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,200 There's an intake and an exhaust. 1157 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:35,000 On our little rack now because we've got a Blackmagic piece of gear running in it. 1158 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,800 If you know what we're talking about, let us know. 1159 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:38,800 Yes. 1160 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:43,600 If you don't know what we're talking about, you've never bought Blackmagic before. 1161 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,600 That's true. 1162 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,600 All right. 1163 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:48,600 That's all I got. 1164 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:49,600 All right. 1165 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:50,600 I enjoyed it. 1166 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,600 Yeah. 1167 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:52,600 Thanks for the free beer. 1168 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,600 Yes. 1169 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:54,600 Thank you, David and Wayne. 1170 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:55,600 Appreciate you guys. 1171 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:56,600 Absolutely. 1172 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,600 All right. 1173 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:58,600 See you. 1174 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:19,600 Cheers. 1175 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,100 This is a beautiful pie, my friends. 1176 01:02:22,100 --> 01:02:24,860 Look at this. 1177 01:02:24,860 --> 01:02:25,860 Look at this. 1178 01:02:25,860 --> 01:02:28,640 They're going to say, how many times is he going to say that? 1179 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,960 But really, look at this. 1180 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:31,960 I just said it again. 1181 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:32,960 Look at this. 1182 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,760 Is that gorgeous or what? 1183 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:35,760 I love my life. 1184 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:41,400 A pound of saffron is like two or $3,000 and you can't even smoke this stuff. 1185 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,080 Look at it. 1186 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,080 Everybody thinks they're part of the olive. 1187 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,280 They have nothing to do with olive. 1188 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:54,840 The capers is a flower bud of the caper bush, which means if allowed to grow, it becomes 1189 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,080 a nice whole white flower. 1190 01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,360 You know, I always say, what were they smoking when they come up with the idea of capers? 1191 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:06,080 Hey, before it becomes a flower, let's take it and let's put it in the brine so we can 1192 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,080 eat it three months from now. 1193 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,680 They have to be smoking something strange to come up with that idea, right? 1194 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,680 Then you have to, then you'll have too much. 1195 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,680 Yeah. 1196 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:15,680 If you put too much, you'll have too much. 1197 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:20,880 I'm glad you came to my channel because I give you a scientific facts. 1198 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,120 If you put too much, you'll have too much. 1199 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,000 Now, if you put too much, you'll be too thick. 1200 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,920 If it's too thick, no good either. 1201 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,280 I got a little camera in here. 1202 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,760 It's full of grease from the meat. 1203 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:38,280 Normally, I got a little camera, one of the Osmo packets, but we cooked it this morning. 1204 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,280 We forgot it. 1205 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,280 We put it in the oven. 1206 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,000 It's made by the company called Crap. 1207 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,880 Oh, no, no, Craft. 1208 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,800 Every mistake you can make in the kitchen, I made them, okay? 1209 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,440 And some, okay? 1210 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,240 And sometimes more than one time. 1211 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,240 Sometimes I wonder. 1212 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,720 It all depends on what is it I have in my coffee. 1213 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,280 Put the water in there, and that's all you need. 1214 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,600 Don't be out there putting some oil in the water, okay? 1215 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:01,600 You need like this. 1216 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,080 They'll shoot you if you do that. 1217 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,080 Talking about a whisk. 1218 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,080 Size matters. 1219 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,720 Mamma mia, look at this thing. 1220 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:10,720 And I turned my heat off. 1221 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,080 Well, how do you like that? 1222 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,080 Not a good idea. 1223 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,900 While you're cooking, do not turn the heat off. 1224 01:04:16,900 --> 01:04:18,480 And I haven't drink anything. 1225 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,000 And then we're going to make the bracing container right here. 1226 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,920 Just checking to make sure it's hot enough. 1227 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,520 Now for those of you who think my accent is a fake accent, it's not. 1228 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,640 Okay, I'm half French and half Italian. 1229 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:31,640 All right? 1230 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,320 But now I'm 100% American. 1231 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:34,320 God bless America. 1232 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,760 God bless the rest of the world. 1233 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:54,780 We'll be reading!