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How are you doing?

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Doing good.

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Doing good.

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You know, spending Pineco's money like crazy.

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It's that time of year.

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Lots of computers, lots of hardware.

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Family guys were doing pretty good.

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The last football game is coming up.

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So that means I only have two more mornings of getting up at 530, which is a huge win.

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Yeah.

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So looking forward to kind of wrapping that up and then transitioning to not having to

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get up to probably at least six.

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So I will enjoy that extra 30 minutes.

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Oh my gosh.

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I mean, yeah, that's when I get up to.

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Yes.

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Yes, yes.

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So, but other than that, we're doing good.

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I mean, we're, you know, we were blessed with far more than we deserve.

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That's for sure.

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Yeah.

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No, I'm right there with you.

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Definitely.

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Hey, what are you drinking?

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Oh, I have a new one and no, it's not a Russian Imperial stout.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Not doing that again.

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This is from celebrator.

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C-E-L-E-B-R-A-T-O-R.

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This is a, the finest Bavarian double Bach.

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Okay.

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The, from the Iyengar Brewery.

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Which is where?

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That's a good question.

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I actually haven't.

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I've never even heard of that.

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I haven't either.

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That's not weird now.

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I mean, there's so many breweries.

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Okay.

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Where are you?

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This is from Tacoma, Washington, but it's imported.

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Where's the real people at?

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You can say on here.

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Just from Iyengar.

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That's all it says.

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Okay.

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Like it is a, an actual German beer.

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It's important.

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An actual German beer.

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I almost got some via the Stefaner, which is one of my favorites from that area.

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Okay.

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Well, I will hit the blurb and then we'll let you run through yours.

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Yeah.

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Dark, multi and rich.

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And then probably saying it wrong, but it's A-Y-I-N-G-E-R.

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So Iyengar, I'm sure the German people will, stupid American.

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But the photo of the Bavarian Alps is one of the world's most respected breweries,

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family owned and operated since 1878.

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And that's all they got.

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That's pretty good.

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But there's the bottle with the label with the two goats.

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Oh yeah.

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Celebrator.

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Yeah.

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So celebrator.

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Celebrator.

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So what are you drinking?

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Celebrator.

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Okay.

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So I don't know.

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We're going to have to look through these and figure out.

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So I got a bunch of cans and I kind of went Oktoberfest on there.

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So there's four Oktoberfests and basically, or that I got.

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So I got an old Chubb just in case.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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And also a reasonably corrupt, just in case.

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I've had both of those and they're delicious.

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So I have that just in case.

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But I got the St. Arnold Oktoberfest.

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Okay.

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I got the East Texas Brewing Company, sorry, East Texas Brewing Company Oktoberfest.

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Okay.

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I got the Real Ale Brewing Company Oktoberfest.

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Okay.

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And they, I hadn't won either last year or the show before from them.

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Yeah.

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No, they've got a bunch of good ones there from Fort Worth, I think.

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Where's the Real Ale is?

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Oh my gosh.

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Really do you think that they're pretty close to us?

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Blanco, Texas.

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Yeah.

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So there you go.

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And then this one, which I had never heard of before from the Athletic Brewing Company,

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they had a few from there and this is the Oktoberfest Fest Brew.

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Okay.

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Well, I have to admit, when you initially...

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This is a non-alcoholic brew.

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Oh, that's a...

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I'm gonna go throw that across the parking lot.

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I won't hold that one against you.

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Wow.

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I didn't even realize.

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It's called Near Beer, contains less than 0.5% alcohol by volume.

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Okay.

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Listen, guys, we're not trying to get drunk here, but like...

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What is that?

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What?

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Okay.

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No, I'm not drinking that.

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But I've got these other three that I can choose from to try.

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Do you have a vote?

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Let's choose an Oktoberfest.

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Yeah.

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I'm gonna try the St. Arnold.

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It's been a long time since I had a St. Arnold, but St. Arnold used to have a beer called

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Texas Wheat that was my favorite beer there for a while and then they stopped making it.

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So, this is Texas' oldest craft brewery.

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St. Arnold is.

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I knew that.

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It's brewed for the fall, full-bodied and malty.

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It doesn't have anything else to say about it, though.

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Okay.

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So, it looks like last show that Commissar was a real ale brewery.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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All right.

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I'm gonna open them up.

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I mean, I'm not actually...

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Like I love drinking out of a bottle.

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I would rather drink out of a bottle than a can, but the snap on the cans, that's pretty

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refreshing.

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All right.

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Cheers.

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Cheers.

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That's nice.

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Oh my gosh.

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No, that's really good.

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A little bit of a delay and you got hit?

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Well, it's one of those...

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I wanted to make sure, because we've been bit by the Russians recently.

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I wanted to make sure that there wasn't something funny that was coming later on, but fully

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endorse St. Arnold.

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Their Oktoberfest, if you can still get it, because you know...

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Tomorrow's the last of October.

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Friday is November.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I've waited too long to find this beer, but maybe we'll make it again next year.

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Perhaps.

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Well, I would say that mine tastes like a bock.

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There you go.

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It's good.

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Well done.

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Very similar to a Shiner bock.

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Well done, Germans.

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Yeah.

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Those box did come from that area.

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From those mountains, they traveled to Texas and...

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Hill country.

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Yeah, there's a bunch of them down there.

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Yeah, there is.

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Anyway, they brought their box and their kolaches.

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Anyway.

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Hey man, what are we talking about today?

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More Unified.

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So kind of keeping that going.

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Yeah, we got to get the seven layer burrito out for this one though.

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Parts of it, yes, absolutely.

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Maybe we'll find out if any other people are listening.

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We keep doing this series.

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We do...

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Oh, I guess you'll have to work on getting some of this out into the social media.

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The social media.

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We have made it onto Facebook.

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Yes, Facebook.

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We have not quite made it onto Instagram because they hate us.

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Apparently, yes.

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Something about here or both.

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I don't understand what happened.

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They did not like that.

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Yeah.

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And you're going to get us on the dirty bird?

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Yes, absolutely.

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It's going to happen.

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Yes.

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It doesn't take long, but when you run into something that is like, hey, you should try

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again tomorrow.

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That's not a great look for a tech company.

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No, no.

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Instagram being cranky.

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Just saying it there.

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Their meta.

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But basically, you can take care of...

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You can look for us on...

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Go ahead.

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You can look for us on the social media.

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We're Beer and Gear.

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Yeah.

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It'll be something like that or Beer and Gear podcast or something like that.

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And you get to handle all the social media because I don't do it.

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Thanks man.

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I really appreciate you.

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Yes.

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I tried to hand it off to my daughter, but she said no.

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Deference.

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Yeah.

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What is that?

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I mean, she should definitely be doing this.

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That's what I thought.

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But she wants her own.

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She's like, well, dad, I don't want to do it for your show.

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I want my own.

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No, you can't have it, babe.

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Sorry.

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But this is your opportunity to show that you can be responsible with it.

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Yeah.

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And we can build from there.

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No, no.

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No.

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Okay.

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Well, I guess you're going to be 18.

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Yeah.

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That if not older.

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So Garrett didn't get his until 19.

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We waited from the graduate high school.

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So she needs to be careful.

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We'll get her that way.

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Yeah.

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Hopefully he's a better person because of it.

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So all right, unified.

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We're going to be talking unified switches tonight, folks.

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They have far too many to cover it the way we did gateways.

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So we're going to hand to them by series and we may pick out a handful or across the series

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to kind of talk about some specific use cases or things that we particularly like because

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there are some of these that we have some personal exposure to.

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So we'll start out with their standard line.

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It really is just that.

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It's just kind of the entry level, no frills, but it is a business class switch for the

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Cody Will Heights of the world who want to put their switches in their specific places

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in their homes and they don't want to hear noise.

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These are the way no noise because they're fanless.

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Fanless.

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Let me tell you what, you got to be careful because you can put them in different places.

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They just got to be ventilated.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just you got to keep it cool.

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But if you want it quiet, you're running into a black magic situation real quick.

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Oh, I'm not going to go down that road.

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So fanless fanless is nice.

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You can get it in a 16, 24 or 48 port version, which is kind of standard.

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They have both POE and non-POE versions depending on what you need.

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On the POE side, you can go up to 195 watts.

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Of course, that higher end is obviously going to be the 48 port version.

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All one gig copper ports and one gig SFP.

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They have up to 104 gigs of switching capacity.

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Layer two only getting into some of the burrito.

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So that's MAC addresses all day long.

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Not IP addresses, which are layer three.

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Yeah, MAC addresses.

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Correct.

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MAC.

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And then they can be deployed and running in less than 10 minutes.

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And I would say MAC, not to be confused with mac and cheese.

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I mean, I just I want to make sure that we're not confusing it with anything else.

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It's called a MAC address.

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It is a MAC address.

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Yes.

273
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Yes.

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Yes.

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So that's kind of the standard standard line.

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I really don't know if there's any in that one that I'm just kind of super thrilled

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about that particular model.

278
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Yeah, no, it is very capable for what it does, but it's not it's not do anything extra.

279
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Correct.

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And I feel like in my setup, I have the standard 24 port POE.

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I didn't need it just because my gateway does have the Ethernet ports with POE, but I wanted

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a dedicated switch and it was affordable.

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And that's what I went with.

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I would have loved to have paid for one of the upper lines, but you know, I'm I'm I'm

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broke like everybody else.

286
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Yeah.

287
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So from there, jump up to the yeah, yeah, everything calls more right now.

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What are you going to what do you want from me?

289
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Yeah.

290
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And I hear the old jingle in my head.

291
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Oh, thanks, Obama.

292
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He didn't have anything to do with it this time.

293
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Nope.

294
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OK, so from there, we will hop up to their professional.

295
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This is getting really kind of more into that business class level of performance.

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Tons of POE at this spot.

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Again, 16 port, 24 port, 48 port versions.

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You can get POE, POE plus and a couple have POE plus plus if you've really got some higher

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end newer devices that are really hungry for that for that power.

300
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POE plus plus is going to take you up to 60 watts.

301
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POE plus is 30 and standard POE is 15.4 watts.

302
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In this particular line, you can get up to 600 watts of POE.

303
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Again, that varies based on the model.

304
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They do have some non POE versions in here as well.

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Again, these are going to be all one gig copper ports, but you will get 10 gig SFP plus ports.

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So you can get a little bit heavier on the backbone if you have the luxury of 10 gig.

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These are going to go up to 176 gigs of switching capacity.

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These are going to be capable of layer two and layer three, which is nice.

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So again, as we said, layer two is MAC address, physical address of your network card, as

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well as layer three, which is going to be your IP address.

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So they can do some of that routing at the layer three.

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If you're using Unifi, that's nice because you can offload some of that routing off of

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your gateway and let it have performance to steal back for other things.

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This does also introduce power redundancy or redundant power supplies.

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They call it power backup.

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That's kind of a nice, nice feature.

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And then this also introduces their augmented reality management with the Unifi mobile app.

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That is actually, when I first saw it, I thought it was going to be more gimmick, but after

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kind of seeing what it's capable of, that's actually kind of nice that you can open it

320
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up, flip into that mode over the switch and you can actually see information about ports

321
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and what's going on.

322
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I don't know if you've used that any yourself or not, John.

323
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I haven't, but that, I mean, what a great tool or, you know.

324
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Yeah.

325
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We briefly want to get into the power backup, just to kind of explain what that is.

326
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Yeah, I was, we talked about that and how important that was when we were talking about

327
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the, oh my gosh.

328
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Some of the hiring gateways.

329
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Yeah.

330
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I almost said firewall.

331
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Yeah.

332
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The hiring gateways and the importance of power backup.

333
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But I, yeah, I don't, we didn't really talk about why that's important.

334
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And I feel like that's power redundancy, power backup, incredibly important.

335
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Yes.

336
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So, you know, in the traditional switching world, you would actually have two physical

337
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power supplies in the unit.

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And one of those would be the failover.

339
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What they've opted for is this is actually a separate rack mount piece that would serve

340
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as the second power supply for your devices.

341
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So this is a one unit again, plugs into the network so you can manage it and kind of see

342
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what's going on.

343
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And then you've got, it looks like six total ports where you could run power out to other

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devices, whether that's a switch, whether that's the gateway or whatever it may be that

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has this capability.

346
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So if your internal power supply did fail, it would fail over to this and you would keep

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running.

348
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So it's kind of an interesting way to kind of consolidate that into a single device versus

349
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having a bunch of power supplies spread across all of your switches.

350
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So I guess I did not think it was important enough to see the price of the power backup.

351
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Hold on.

352
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Okay, don't hold on.

353
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That's going to take too long.

354
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There it is.

355
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I'm telling you, it only takes one time.

356
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And then you're like, no, this idea is not making that mistake again.

357
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Correct.

358
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Yeah.

359
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And so that gives you just, if anybody's wondering, that's up to 950 watts of redundant power

360
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out of that one new piece of equipment.

361
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And then again, in this line, I think the power piece was the bigger thing to talk about.

362
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There's not necessarily a specific switch in this line that's like, Ooh, we should really

363
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dig deep into that.

364
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Because again, pretty much standard stuff going on, but a ton of POE and again, some

365
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increased performance in introducing a layer three capability.

366
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From there, we can move on into their pro series.

367
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This is where again, the Apple is coming out of them, because it's not just the pro series.

368
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It's the pro max.

369
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So, I mean, gotta throw in that pro max.

370
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Pro max.

371
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:09,760
Yes.

372
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I'm waiting for the pro ultra line.

373
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I'm sure that will eventually come along.

374
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Pro ultra max.

375
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Yeah, that too.

376
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Pro max ultra.

377
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Pro max ultra.

378
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Pro giga max ultra.

379
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Yes.

380
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Okay.

381
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,320
Let's just start throwing words at it.

382
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You know, these are, well, these are the best switches, the greatest switches ever.

383
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,320
Listen, it's election season.

384
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,320
You can't be doing stuff like that.

385
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,320
Hey, I didn't say I'm endorsing anybody.

386
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,320
I know you're not endorsing anybody.

387
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,320
I'm saying we can't do that or somebody's going to say something stupid.

388
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,320
Okay.

389
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,320
Anyway, it's late, but try to get the pro line.

390
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,320
Something stupid.

391
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,320
Okay.

392
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,320
Anyway, it's late, but trigger warning.

393
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,320
I don't know when you're listening to this.

394
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My beer went down the wrong pipe.

395
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,320
Yep.

396
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,320
Well, better that than all that nasty bitter.

397
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,320
Oh yeah.

398
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,320
No, that, oh my gosh.

399
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,320
Yep.

400
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,320
Okay.

401
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,320
So this is again, really kind of stepping it up into hiring business class.

402
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:22,320
This is going to introduce two and a half gig, a multi gig ports, which is amazing.

403
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:31,320
If you're doing wifi six or wifi seven, again, the standard 16, 24 and 48 ports, tons of

404
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:40,320
POE, POE, POE plus POE plus, plus you're going to get up to 720 Watts of POE, which is a

405
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,320
lot of POE.

406
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,320
I mean, what exactly are you?

407
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,320
I mean, I had 48 ports.

408
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,320
If you're running POE on, sorry.

409
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,320
If you're running POE on 48 ports.

410
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,320
Yeah.

411
00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,320
No, I, yeah.

412
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,320
I mean, this is going to be, you don't just simply have access points.

413
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,320
You're going to be running a ton of phones.

414
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,320
Yeah.

415
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:13,760
And if you're running some of the wifi six and wifi seven, they, there are some of those

416
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,320
out there from other vendors that do actually require the POE plus plus.

417
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,320
So you're going to go ahead and for each one of those, you're going to just go ahead and

418
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,320
say, Hey, that's essentially going to be 60 Watts per each of those.

419
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,320
So if you've got a ton of those, it didn't, it doesn't take long to chew up 720.

420
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,320
It's still a lot.

421
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:41,320
Oh, it is. It's a ton, but again, you could, you could slap a, a pant load of phones onto

422
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,320
this if you wanted.

423
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,320
Again, just britches.

424
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,320
There you go.

425
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,320
Trousers.

426
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,320
Would you say I had a plethora?

427
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,320
A plethora of opinion.

428
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,320
We're going to get copyrights for that.

429
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,320
Yeah, it's fine.

430
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,320
It's, I mean, it's too short of their mind.

431
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,320
It's fine.

432
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,320
Yes.

433
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:09,320
So as we said, one and two and a half gig multi gig ports.

434
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:16,320
You're going to get these are also going to have the 10 gig SFP SFP plus.

435
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,320
Wow.

436
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,320
Yeah.

437
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:24,320
We're going to step up to 224 gigs of switching capacity, layer two and layer three.

438
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,320
This also is going to bring in power redundancy with a power backup solution.

439
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:34,680
This next feature, when I initially saw it, I was like, wait, I want to run back to power

440
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,320
real quick just so we can say this out loud.

441
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:42,320
When we were talking about POE plus and plugging in, especially phones, cause phones, I could

442
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,320
actually look up on their site.

443
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,320
They're, they're max, which is their biggest phone.

444
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,320
The one that would draw the most power.

445
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,320
It needs POE plus.

446
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,320
It's still only drawing 15 Watts.

447
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,320
So it's 15 Watts, but they're rating it.

448
00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,320
I guess it could potentially peak over and need more than 15.

449
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:06,320
So yeah, I think it's, I think it's one of those like, let's not just rely on anyway.

450
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,320
So I'm saying, okay, it's a lot.

451
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,320
It is done.

452
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,320
Just throwing it out there.

453
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,320
Yep.

454
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,320
Okay.

455
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,320
So the next thing on the list is there, what they call ether lighting.

456
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,320
When it first came out, it was like, oh, that's, that's a sales again.

457
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,320
I don't, I don't need that.

458
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:32,320
But after doing some, some digging, there actually could be some, some good use cases

459
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,320
here.

460
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,320
You can have different color lights on the ports and that could indicate the specific

461
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,320
VLAN or port speeds.

462
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,320
Yeah.

463
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,320
And I will tell you the number of times that I've been like, Oh, I can't remember what

464
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,320
VLAN that is.

465
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,320
If it was a light, that would be so helpful.

466
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,320
Yep.

467
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,320
So I would definitely say, Hey, this is on this specific VLAN.

468
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,320
Of course you need to know what the colors mean.

469
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:04,320
But again, when you team that with the augmented reality in the mobile app, it all kind of

470
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,320
works seamlessly together.

471
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,320
Kind of like they planned it.

472
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,320
Yeah.

473
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,320
I mean, it's almost like they had a plan and they executed the plan.

474
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,320
Correct.

475
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,320
That's never the case though.

476
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,320
This is total coincidence.

477
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,320
Correct.

478
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:29,320
And so even on the 16 port model, you're still going to get some two and a half gig, um,

479
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,320
as far as the multi gig ports.

480
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:38,320
So it's not like you have to buy the higher end 24 or the 48.

481
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,320
Now they're not all going to be two and a half gig.

482
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,320
I think you're going to get four that are two and a half gig and then 12 that are just

483
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,320
one gig.

484
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,320
But again, it's kind of early enough that most people don't need a ton of multi gig.

485
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,320
Um, primarily you would be putting those into access points, wifi six, wifi seven.

486
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,320
So you can push more bandwidth to the access point.

487
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:05,320
Uh, obviously you're still going to be hamstrung by your internet connection, but you are giving

488
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:13,320
your access point its best opportunity to perform at a peak performance.

489
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:25,320
So let's see on the 24 port, 24 port, you get to step up to eight, two and a half gig.

490
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:31,320
And on the 48 port, you actually get 16 two and a half gig.

491
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,520
So that's not bad.

492
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,520
Not bad at all.

493
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:42,320
I mean, it's more, I mean, what is that?

494
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,320
16.

495
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,320
Anyway.

496
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,320
Yep.

497
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,320
It's a ton.

498
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,320
It's a ton.

499
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:55,320
And again, all of these crazy easy adoption, uh, into your controller, whatever you're

500
00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:00,320
using, if it's the gateway cloud or even their, their cloud based.

501
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,320
Yeah.

502
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:08,320
I cannot say enough good things about how easy it is to just drop one of their pieces

503
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,320
into a system.

504
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:21,720
This is one of those, like, um, it's a great conversation to have about how specific and

505
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:30,120
kind of planned out you need to be in nowadays in creating the physical infrastructure of

506
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,320
your network.

507
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:40,240
Um, because if, if you try to like, Oh, I'm just going to go grab the.

508
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,000
Closest thing.

509
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:53,040
Like it, it, we don't have a dealer, um, in Tyler that sells, uh, real equipment.

510
00:27:53,040 --> 00:28:00,160
Um, this, this, this type of equipment, I'm not going to say any big stores or anything

511
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:06,520
like that, but we have some stores in Tyler that have some technology equipment.

512
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:13,760
And I'm saying like, if, if that's where you are, then you need to be very, very careful

513
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:21,920
about how you piece together a system.

514
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:28,920
And it doesn't have to, like, it doesn't necessarily have to do with like that's going to, there

515
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,680
are pieces that work together from all these different manufacturers.

516
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:37,480
Again, like there's, there's a lot of, you know, you just configure it correctly and

517
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:46,280
you'll be fine, but you lose so much.

518
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:56,120
So many of the features, like just by not, uh, by trying to be either cheap or, or trying

519
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:02,400
to be hodgepodge or trying to be like whatever the, the, the thing that like says, Oh, I

520
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,360
just need to go grab this thing and I'm going to band-aid this with that.

521
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,000
And then you leave it that way.

522
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,840
I know that's tempting, but you got to avoid that.

523
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,840
Yep.

524
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:21,040
Like the, the, there really does need to be a plan for this is what we're going to do.

525
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,040
Right.

526
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Now, luckily we have Dallas.

527
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,040
Oh yeah.

528
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,160
Not too far away from Tyler.

529
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,160
Yeah.

530
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,480
Micro center is, Hey, micro center.

531
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,760
If you want to show some love sponsor, that place is awesome.

532
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:42,640
Like I walked in and I immediately texted Chris and was like, Oh my gosh, this is amazing.

533
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,640
Yep.

534
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:49,920
I'm just saying if you want to spread to Tyler, I could totally be a general manager.

535
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,280
Well, with them being no big far away as they are.

536
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,360
It turns into team building exercise.

537
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,360
Right.

538
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,360
No, absolutely.

539
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,320
And, and team building trips are awesome.

540
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,920
So grab, grab your it friends and go spend a couple hours in that store.

541
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,280
Just walking around with your jaw on the ground.

542
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,280
Don't bring in your wallets.

543
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,360
Oh, unless you have a company card.

544
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,360
Nope.

545
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,360
Nope.

546
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Nope.

547
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,360
Yep.

548
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,920
And kind of back to your point, if you're buying anything local, you're going to get

549
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,560
link C link, Sysd link net gear.

550
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,880
And you might find some that are, that are managed.

551
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,880
Yeah.

552
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,360
But you're going to have to manage those individually.

553
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:40,240
There is no ease of configuring something and then pushing it on other devices.

554
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,680
And if you're small enough, yeah, you can get away with that for a while.

555
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,800
But eventually you can outgrow that quickly.

556
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:52,160
I just want to reiterate to everybody, you would need to be on premise for that.

557
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,280
There's no, there's no doing this.

558
00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:05,120
There's no remote management unless you have the luxury of doing a remote VPN, which they're

559
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,040
not going to set up for you.

560
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,340
No.

561
00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:09,340
And ubiquity will.

562
00:31:09,340 --> 00:31:10,340
Yeah, they will.

563
00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:11,340
Crazy easy.

564
00:31:11,340 --> 00:31:15,000
I'm just saying that reminds me.

565
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,160
I need to ask you a work question after this.

566
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,160
Okay.

567
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,280
We can do that.

568
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,480
That's what we do.

569
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,600
This is the fun.

570
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,160
I love my truck and I love what I do.

571
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,200
Good job.

572
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,200
Okay.

573
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,880
So from there, unless you had something else.

574
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,880
No, I didn't.

575
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,880
That's great.

576
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,880
Okay.

577
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,840
From there, we hop up to enterprise.

578
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:48,120
These are the, these are the high end guys, but I have to, I'm sorry, unify ubiquity.

579
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,240
I've got to put a slight caveat on here.

580
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:57,360
I'm not saying it's not enterprise, but it's enterprise.

581
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,360
Just not quite.

582
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,960
And I say that not because of performance, performance is off the charts.

583
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,960
Enterprise adjacent.

584
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,960
Yes.

585
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,680
And that, and that, and we'll, you'll understand here in a second when we start talking POE.

586
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,680
Yeah.

587
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,680
Again, with the POE.

588
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:23,920
Isn't that, well, now even I'm sitting here going, what did I, did you read that right?

589
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:24,920
What did I miss?

590
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,920
There was something.

591
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,120
Oh, oh, I have a typo in my notes.

592
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,120
That's what it is.

593
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,120
There you go.

594
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,120
I was like, wait a minute.

595
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,560
I'm sitting there going, well, if it's got that, then why am I saying, so here we go.

596
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,560
Yeah.

597
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,920
So we're going to say enterprise adjacent.

598
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,400
And that doesn't mean that they don't have something planned to come back and refresh

599
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,800
this because I get that the pro max is newer than the enterprise.

600
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,680
Some of the enterprise line.

601
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,680
Yeah.

602
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,800
And that's the, that's always the catch there is that like this may be coming.

603
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,800
Yeah.

604
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,480
They just didn't update.

605
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,400
They're definitely selling more of the pro max than they are the enterprise.

606
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,400
Go ahead.

607
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,400
Correct.

608
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,400
Correct.

609
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,200
So again, your standard 16, 24, 48 port, although they do kind of on their site, they lump in

610
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,200
an eight port.

611
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,880
We'll talk about that in a minute.

612
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:22,680
The real caveat to this is the POE you get POE, you get POE plus, but not the plus plus.

613
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,560
So you can't hit the 60 Watts like you can with the pro max.

614
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,240
And again, for most people, this probably wouldn't matter, but if you really were trying

615
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:40,320
to push some of the higher end wifi, six C wifi seven, especially non, um, unify, uh,

616
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,320
Cisco.

617
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,080
I'm looking at you.

618
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,840
You're, you're going to need up to 60 Watts of, uh, POE on that port.

619
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:56,440
I'm going to send you something in the chat real quick, uh, for you to, um, look at this

620
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:04,200
same, same unify page that I'm looking at, because if you, if you go to the UI.com switching

621
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,560
page, if you go to enterprise and go to high capacity, not only does it say that it has

622
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:17,400
POE plus, not only does it say that it has POE plus plus, it says that it has POE plus

623
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,400
plus plus.

624
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,400
Well, let's see.

625
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:27,960
Cause when I now, unless something has changed since days ago, when I created this, when

626
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,760
I go up to, oh, well, there may be like one.

627
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,560
So the, Oh, that is a new.

628
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,560
Okay.

629
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,080
There's the enterprise campus 48 and enterprise campus 24.

630
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,080
So they just update.

631
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,560
This is literally just breaking news guys.

632
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:50,960
They just updated this in between when we did the show notes originally.

633
00:34:50,960 --> 00:35:00,600
And right now enterprise campus 48 POE and 24 POE plus plus plus plus plus plus plus

634
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,240
up to 90 Watts.

635
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:06,800
In the Cisco world and some of the others, you'll hear that referred to as you POE or

636
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,560
universal POE.

637
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,560
Yeah.

638
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,560
Wow.

639
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,560
That's crazy.

640
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,960
I, it's not even available until December.

641
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,240
I shared the show notes with you.

642
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,840
Was it Friday or Saturday?

643
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,840
Saturday.

644
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,560
I don't think it was Friday.

645
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,560
Okay.

646
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,560
And these did not exist.

647
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,560
So I guess I, now I gotta, I gotta take it back.

648
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,880
Yeah, no, absolutely.

649
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:42,960
And the 48 port enterprise campus 48 POE has 2150 Watts.

650
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,960
That's okay.

651
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,960
Wow.

652
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,160
All right.

653
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:54,960
Like we said, they, they totally, what they did was they updated the professional max,

654
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,520
the pro max first.

655
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,760
Yeah, they did.

656
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,640
But they have come back, like we said that they might and they have updated the enterprise

657
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,920
and boy did they ever.

658
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,920
Okay.

659
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,080
So I am, wow, that's kind of show notes on the fly.

660
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,080
Don't mind.

661
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,560
Cause I'll have these in there.

662
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,240
What else have they?

663
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,240
Okay.

664
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:19,160
So, um, enterprise is enterprise.

665
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:24,880
Maybe you could argue the older 24 and 48 are enterprise adjacent because those are

666
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,880
a POE plus.

667
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,880
Yeah.

668
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:34,480
So to refresh it, now you have up to 2150 Watts of POE.

669
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:42,640
If you hit the campus series, uh, if you want, yeah, if you want the enterprise campus aggregation,

670
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,040
like that's got serious speed, but it doesn't have POE.

671
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,440
Oh, they added a new aggregation switch.

672
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,440
Yeah.

673
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,440
Look at that.

674
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,440
Yes.

675
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,600
So they've got two, they've got high capacity aggregation and they've got enterprise campus

676
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,600
aggregation.

677
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,600
Look at that.

678
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,200
That is, that is an insane speed.

679
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,200
Okay.

680
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,400
The uplink speed is a hundred gigs per second.

681
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,960
I am updating all of this on the fly as we're going.

682
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:07,960
Wow.

683
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,960
Okay.

684
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,120
Um, those have ether lighting and the pro AV support.

685
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,400
I think they had to do the pro AV support because that was after their original.

686
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,400
Correct.

687
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,760
And the price, the previous enterprise did not have ether lighting.

688
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,760
Yeah.

689
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,120
So I will add that, I will add that as well.

690
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Cause I had it as no ether lighting.

691
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,480
Nope.

692
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,480
It's on there.

693
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,480
Okay.

694
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,480
They did it.

695
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,480
All right.

696
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,960
So I'm telling you, all right, look at that.

697
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,960
That's crazy.

698
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:45,320
Um, enterprise, you're going to get, um, up to 10 gig on some of your copper ports.

699
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,320
Yeah.

700
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,600
You'll have 10 gig SFP plus.

701
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,880
You'll also have 25 gig SFP 28.

702
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,640
So you can really push some heavy, uh, backbone there.

703
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:06,240
Um, because of the campus lineup, now it's up to 920 gigs of switching capacity.

704
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:10,320
Again, layer two and layer three as expected.

705
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,240
Power redundancy as expected.

706
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:16,800
Ether lighting on the campus models.

707
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,840
Not the standard enterprise models.

708
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,840
Yeah.

709
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,680
Um, and then you've got three models of aggregation.

710
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,720
We'll hit those in just a second.

711
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:32,120
Um, and again, you're going to have, um, the augmented reality.

712
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:39,240
The other one that's in here is they refer to as the mission critical.

713
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:46,320
This is a nine port switch, which kind of a weird number.

714
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,280
Uh, but this has a battery backup built into it.

715
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:57,360
So if you had a location where you, for whatever reason, you just didn't have a battery backup,

716
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,160
but you know, you needed some additional runtime, you could put this in.

717
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,280
It's got that battery backup in it.

718
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,240
Uh, so you can get some additional runtime out of this.

719
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,040
Hence they call it mission critical.

720
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:14,520
Um, I'm not fully certain of where I would potentially use something like this because

721
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,040
in most cases I'm putting a dedicated battery backup in.

722
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:23,000
Um, especially if I consider something to be mission critical, I'm sure they have some

723
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,120
specific use cases in mind.

724
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,120
Yeah.

725
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,920
I mean, don't get me wrong.

726
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,400
I like the idea of it being, excuse me.

727
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,400
Um, I like the idea of it being integrated into the system.

728
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:47,040
The, the, sorry, the dual hot swappable PSU is very important.

729
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,120
Very cool.

730
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:54,560
Love that power backup in the actual like machine.

731
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:02,480
That feels like they're just cleaning up, cleaning up an area.

732
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,480
You know what I mean?

733
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,480
Yeah.

734
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,000
Cause everybody knows those power backups are huge and ugly and.

735
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,000
Correct.

736
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,000
Yikes.

737
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,000
You want something to look pretty for the upper management for the upper management.

738
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,280
This is very nice for when they do their, they've got that high capacity aggregation

739
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:26,800
that, um, that has the unified power backup ready, which means you need to purchase it.

740
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,800
Yeah.

741
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,800
Okay.

742
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,000
So well, well done.

743
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Unify.

744
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,520
Uh, I guess I'm fine in the future.

745
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,200
I may need to go see if they've added anything else before showtime.

746
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,680
I mean, if we had just pretended like they hadn't, then that would have been less fun.

747
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,680
Yeah.

748
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:52,960
I just, we just got to say, I just looked, I don't see any additions to the gateways.

749
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,840
So nothing has changed on the gateway, but apparently they've not today, but it could

750
00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,840
be tomorrow.

751
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:00,840
Correct.

752
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,320
We could post this and somebody would be like, wait a minute.

753
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,320
Hey, you missed.

754
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,320
Sorry.

755
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,720
So we're, we're giving you the information that we have in the moment.

756
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:09,720
Yeah.

757
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:13,280
We may need to put some disclaimer on these and go, Hey, these are the products as of the

758
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,360
time of the recording of the show.

759
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,360
Yeah.

760
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,600
When we recorded, I promise you we're looking at, and this is a great show to reference

761
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,880
in that we are looking at the webpage, not just the notes that we have, we're looking

762
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,280
at the webpage as we were doing this.

763
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,280
Yes.

764
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,840
And yeah, that's that plus plus plus.

765
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:36,560
And I was like, wait a minute, even there, if their site is wrong, I mean, that's happened

766
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,560
before.

767
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,560
Yeah.

768
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,920
I was two on the nose here, Apple, but plus key got stuck.

769
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,920
Yeah.

770
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,920
But this is pretty cool.

771
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,920
It is.

772
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,920
Yeah.

773
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,920
Very cool.

774
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,120
I'll have to look into those and see if there's anything else in those.

775
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,120
So we can shift to aggregation.

776
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,680
Yeah.

777
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,960
These are going to be switches that are all SFP.

778
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,680
So they have the, this is a little bit older.

779
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,120
It's standard.

780
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,440
I would call it standard aggregation.

781
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:20,000
You've got eight SFP plus, you've got a maximum capacity of 160 gigs of switching capacity.

782
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000
So in some small deployments, that's great.

783
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,240
I know I've got plenty of places where that would be more than sufficient.

784
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:31,760
We've got some spots at the church where that would be more than sufficient.

785
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,760
Absolutely.

786
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,160
Then usually higher speeds.

787
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,160
Yes.

788
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:41,960
And it's going to be where you've got a lot of your fiber coming back to a more centralized

789
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,920
distribution point.

790
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,760
So from there, you move up to their high capacity.

791
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:53,880
This would fit into the pro max series, even though it doesn't have max in the name, you're

792
00:42:53,880 --> 00:43:00,480
going to go up to 32 ports in this particular model.

793
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:10,800
Eight of those are the, I'm sorry, four, four of those are going to be the one 10 and 25

794
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,320
gig capable ports.

795
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:19,800
If you're, I mean, depending on your setup, if you're running one of these, that's a ton

796
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,600
of fiber that you're hooking up.

797
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:29,000
I'm kind of almost envisioning fiber to the, to the desktop with this type of a switch.

798
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,000
Wow.

799
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Yeah.

800
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,000
No, that'd be awesome.

801
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,600
So if you've got a media company and you're doing a lot of video, you probably want that.

802
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:38,600
Yeah.

803
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:44,720
Video, I mean, you know, he probably look at Marquez Brownlee's setup.

804
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:52,760
He, you know, they do all their, they do kind of stations and they work on their, their

805
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,040
different videos.

806
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Like they, they have different people doing different parts of the editing or the different

807
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,280
parts of the creating the, creating the video.

808
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:09,920
And they're all working off of the same files that are on, you know, a shared server.

809
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:15,120
I mean, that type of setup where you're, you're all trying to high speed interact with a lot

810
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,120
of the same files.

811
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,120
That would be huge.

812
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Oh yeah.

813
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:25,960
So then you move into the brand new super fancy enterprise campus aggregation.

814
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,000
I'm looking at that, right?

815
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,320
You've got 54 total ports.

816
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:39,120
That's a lot because they're saying they've got 48 that go up to 25 gig, which is already

817
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,600
screaming fast.

818
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:48,200
But then on the right hand end of the switch, you've got six more that can do 40 gig or

819
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,800
a hundred.

820
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,800
Wow.

821
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,800
Wow.

822
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,800
That is insane.

823
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,920
Guys.

824
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,480
Wow.

825
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,840
I mean, I don't even know what to say at this point.

826
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,840
Like that is crazy.

827
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,400
That is fun.

828
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,960
Wow.

829
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,760
All right.

830
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,240
Well, I'm glad I don't need that for anything that I do.

831
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:17,240
I mean, right.

832
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:25,400
Like, okay, how many of these things can I purchase to play with?

833
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,160
That's a lot.

834
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:37,360
They are again, if you really do have like a college campus or a big corporate campus,

835
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,880
something like this is going to be a big deal.

836
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,880
Wow.

837
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,160
That's absolutely pretty cool.

838
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,760
Absolutely.

839
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,760
Now I'm looking ahead to this next series and go, did you add anything else on me?

840
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,760
Wait a minute.

841
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,760
Wait a minute.

842
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:53,760
Hold on.

843
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,040
We got to, we got to, we're going to pause the show real quick and look at the page and

844
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,440
make sure we didn't miss something.

845
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,760
But given it in a quick scan, it doesn't look like it's changed.

846
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,760
No, I don't.

847
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:05,760
I don't see anything different.

848
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,920
I appreciate that.

849
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,440
I like this next.

850
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:15,880
This next, I mean, it's not as fancy, flashy or expensive, but this next next part is kind

851
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:21,960
of one of my favorites just because like the you labeled it on here is a pocket knife.

852
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,960
Yeah.

853
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,440
The Swiss Army Knife.

854
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,440
Find it real quick.

855
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,440
Swiss Army Knife.

856
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,440
Thank you.

857
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,560
And then the next series of switches.

858
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:34,920
Like this is, these are so handy to have a few different options of, because you just,

859
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,640
sometimes you just need the thing that's going to pull this together.

860
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,000
Oh, we've got this one-off that we need to make happen.

861
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,000
Yeah.

862
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,200
I don't know if that happens in a lot of other industries, but like in the church and ministry

863
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:57,120
and stuff like that, you're, you're constantly having to, somebody's moving the goalpost

864
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,240
on you and you just got to make sure that, okay.

865
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:03,800
Y'all can't see Chris, but that was hilarious.

866
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,160
I just got to, I got to say it.

867
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:14,520
He took a swig of his beer with his right hand and then his hand went out of the frame

868
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:19,960
and then he took a swig of his beer with his left hand and it looked like you were double

869
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,960
fisting there for a second.

870
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,040
Well I took that one and looked at it.

871
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,240
I'm like, Oh, there's actually enough left.

872
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:28,600
I should just go ahead and just finish it off.

873
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,120
And for whatever reason, it just naturally went into the other hand.

874
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,120
Perfect.

875
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:38,160
The left hand wanted to have beer as well.

876
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,160
Okay.

877
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,160
Utility.

878
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,160
Utility.

879
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,160
Yeah.

880
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,160
And that's kind of what this is.

881
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,240
This is kind of a catchall category for them.

882
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:50,880
As we said, this is their Swiss army knife series, anywhere from four to eight ports,

883
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:56,920
depending on the model up to 10 gig SFP.

884
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,680
Some of them even have 10 gig copper uplink ports.

885
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:08,360
Not a lot of these, but some of these do have POE, POE plus and POE plus plus.

886
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:18,760
Apparently I can't spell plus plus some not some, some switches can be powered by POE

887
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:26,720
plus or by a type C giving you a little flexibility depending on what you're dealing with.

888
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:27,720
Yeah.

889
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:29,480
In fact, that's pretty nice.

890
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:34,120
I think don't we have the flex?

891
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,120
Yeah.

892
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,120
The flex mini.

893
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:42,280
We've got that in a couple of spots and I believe those were powered by type C.

894
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:47,200
I thought we used POE for those, but I could know maybe we did.

895
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:53,000
There may be one of them that we used USB C for.

896
00:48:53,000 --> 00:49:00,560
But I remember the only reason I remember this is because I got a little confused about

897
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,000
which direction that POE was going.

898
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,920
And I made a promise that I couldn't keep.

899
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,920
That happens.

900
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:08,920
Just saying.

901
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:15,440
But they've got the flex mini 2.5, which I don't think that they had when we bought that.

902
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,440
No, no, no, no, no, no.

903
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,480
We bought like three of the flex minis.

904
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,480
Yeah.

905
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,480
Whenever we bought them.

906
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,560
And the 2.5 is very attractive.

907
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,120
Yes, it is.

908
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,320
More speed.

909
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,800
Feel better about it.

910
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:34,840
These are great for hiding behind some piece of furniture or like a printer.

911
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,840
Absolutely.

912
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:36,840
Okay.

913
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:43,280
So these are going to be desktop model as far as like you can sit it on the desk, Velcro

914
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,400
underneath, or some of these you can get a wall mount.

915
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,400
Hiding behind the.

916
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,440
And hide it behind the desk or a piece of furniture.

917
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,400
Yeah, I'm telling you, tiny, tiny little guys and they're great.

918
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,400
Yes.

919
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,400
No complaints.

920
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,720
No, no, no, no.

921
00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:59,080
They have one specific model.

922
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:05,240
A couple of these have flex in the name, but one in particular, which is just the flex,

923
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:09,720
is weatherproof for outdoor installations.

924
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:11,200
Yeah.

925
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:18,720
Which like, I don't know that I would, I mean, it says it.

926
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:21,240
I feel like they've got to stick with it.

927
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:25,400
I'm not putting that like on its own outside.

928
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,360
I would probably at a minimum, it would be under an overhang.

929
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,360
Yeah.

930
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,280
I don't think I would have it fully exposed.

931
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,280
Yeah.

932
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,520
I mean, I may like consider it in a soffit or something like that.

933
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,120
I'm not really like I, I'm trying to think of a situation where I'd be like, yeah, I

934
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,720
feel good about this.

935
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:43,720
Yeah.

936
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:51,400
But I mean, I've, you and I both know, like we've, we've, I've repaired or not repaired.

937
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:57,920
I have serviced projectors that have been hit by water balloons.

938
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,520
So I just have, I have trust issues.

939
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,520
Yes.

940
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,520
Yes.

941
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,880
Oh, trying to think about that.

942
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,600
It said it has water damage.

943
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,160
Oh, that was probably the water balloon that we threw at it.

944
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,160
Are you kidding me?

945
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,160
Okay.

946
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,920
You are getting the full charge for replacement.

947
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,400
I don't know what to say to you right now.

948
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,160
Oh my gosh.

949
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,160
Yep.

950
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,160
I remember that.

951
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,360
Thank you, ranch.

952
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,480
The migraine is so intense.

953
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,240
So and then the one other that's in here and then we'll point out a couple of these, uh,

954
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:42,320
is they have an industrial model, um, can handle up to 144 degrees.

955
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:49,720
If you're running, yeah, if you're running basically kind of, I'm going to call it half

956
00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:53,000
ish 250 Watts of the POE capability.

957
00:51:53,000 --> 00:52:01,440
If you need to run the maximum 450 Watts, then it can handle up to 122 degrees.

958
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,580
So if you've got a scenario like what we do, we have some little huts at the base of our

959
00:52:06,580 --> 00:52:10,120
towers where we have a wireless bridge.

960
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,680
We're currently using some Cisco so yes, they do.

961
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Yes.

962
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,840
So we've got some Cisco series industrial switches.

963
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,560
These would be great for that.

964
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:26,120
You know, it may not have direct sunlight, but that little hut, it's hot.

965
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,920
You do put an exhaust fan to try to help it out.

966
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,200
And these would hold up really, really well in those types of environments, not just because

967
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:41,320
of heat, but also they can handle some of the dirty dirtiness of being exposed in some

968
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,320
ways to the outside environment.

969
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,400
Okay.

970
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,520
I'm just going to ask it because, um, this feels like an oversight to me.

971
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:59,480
I feel like this was done by either a marketing department or I don't know, somebody that

972
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,600
wasn't thinking about what they're actually trying to accomplish here.

973
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:10,400
Why is everything with Unifi white except for the piece of equipment that they're like,

974
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:16,200
Hey, it can be in like direct sunlight and up to really like high temperatures.

975
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,480
We're going to make it black.

976
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,560
Insert joke here.

977
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:28,600
I don't like you, but you guys, I don't get it because black absorbs all light.

978
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,680
So therefore it's going to get hotter faster than white that reflects all light.

979
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Absolutely.

980
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:42,420
This is like, this is, this is, you know, elementary science, like let's, let's just

981
00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:46,840
avoid the, like, I know it was super tempting cause it says, and like, we're going to call

982
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:47,840
it industrial.

983
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:55,080
It's industrial and we want it to, you know, look industrial and that's black and you like,

984
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,080
stop it.

985
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,080
Yeah.

986
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:06,080
I'm aging myself, but when I hear industrial, I think nine inch nails, industrial metal,

987
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,680
the just industrial just kind of still connects.

988
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:11,680
That's hilarious.

989
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,840
So, well, there you go.

990
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,640
I'm going for beer number two and then we'll hit a couple of these models.

991
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,640
I love it.

992
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,880
Old faithful got some Guinness.

993
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,880
You got to.

994
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,560
But so, so pleased with that St. Arnold.

995
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,960
I feel like I got to try another one of the, I'm not doing that one.

996
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:34,960
Another Oktoberfest.

997
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:35,960
Yeah.

998
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:43,120
I just pulled out that athletic one again and I got to tell you, it's so disappointing.

999
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,120
You won't make one mistake again.

1000
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,080
I'm going to do East Texas cause you know, we're in East Texas.

1001
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,080
Why not?

1002
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,080
Oh, wow.

1003
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,360
That did not land on my computer.

1004
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:06,920
I got the full like frat party.

1005
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,400
Suds open on that one.

1006
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,400
There you go.

1007
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,400
Cheers again.

1008
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,400
Cheers.

1009
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,400
It's not bad.

1010
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,400
Man, that's always good.

1011
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,400
Thank you.

1012
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,400
Cheers.

1013
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,400
Cheers.

1014
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,400
Cheers.

1015
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,400
Cheers.

1016
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,400
Cheers.

1017
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,400
Cheers.

1018
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,400
Cheers.

1019
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,400
Cheers.

1020
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,400
Thank you.

1021
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,400
Thank you.

1022
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,400
Arthur Guinness.

1023
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,000
I'm going to say this one's a little bit nuttier.

1024
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,520
Okay.

1025
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,920
Not a bad, not a bad taste.

1026
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,600
Just, you know what I mean?

1027
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,120
Kind of gets you like in the back right of the tongue.

1028
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,120
Yeah.

1029
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:49,000
Um, I can't think of the name of the brew company, but they make a brown nut ale that's

1030
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,240
got a little bit of that.

1031
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:52,560
I know what you're talking about.

1032
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,560
Yeah.

1033
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,560
I don't remember the name either.

1034
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,560
Yeah.

1035
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:56,560
Okay.

1036
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,560
Okay.

1037
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,080
So that industrial also had a POE plus plus.

1038
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,600
Um, I don't know if we said that or not.

1039
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,640
Yes.

1040
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:11,200
The only other one on the Swiss army knife that has the POE plus plus is the, uh, pro

1041
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,560
POE or pro eight POE.

1042
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,280
Yes.

1043
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:21,360
Because their enterprise that's listed here was prior to the campus refresh.

1044
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:29,440
And I don't expect them to release an eight port and call it campus.

1045
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:34,720
No, but I do like, I wouldn't be surprised if they came back and upgraded that enterprise

1046
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:37,680
eight POE with plus plus.

1047
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:38,680
Correct.

1048
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:44,200
Um, and it'll probably be two 40 instead of one 20 or something like that.

1049
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,720
I guess the two or two probably not two 40.

1050
00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:48,720
Yeah.

1051
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:57,400
Um, anyway, what's surprising to me is that they still call out the, I guess, I guess

1052
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:03,440
technically that XG is there, but they do still have a handful of their gen one switches

1053
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,520
here.

1054
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:10,560
You've got the original gen one eight port, the 60 Watts of POE is very much a desktop

1055
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:16,640
model and then you've got the eight, the updated eight port.

1056
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,320
Um, I've got this on my desk.

1057
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:24,840
We've had a couple of these, the church ups the wattage to 150, uh, but introduced SFP

1058
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,200
ports, which the other eight port did not have.

1059
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:37,280
And then the original XG series, which was pre enterprise, uh, is POE as well.

1060
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:43,560
Uh, so what I think is interesting in here is the, the flex utility.

1061
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,440
Okay.

1062
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:53,760
So if you, if we were to go away from Cisco and to go to ubiquity, this is, this is something

1063
00:57:53,760 --> 00:58:00,440
that we would consider in a couple of locations because this gives you an enclosure that you

1064
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:08,560
can use outdoors that you could bring in one of the flex switches to protect it and help

1065
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,120
it with, uh, from the, uh, hold up to the environment.

1066
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:18,840
Um, so like if we weren't going to do the industrial, we could probably put this, um,

1067
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,400
in place and we would probably have to kick up some of our, uh, venting.

1068
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:28,600
It may actually have to consider, uh, um, an actual AC if we went this way.

1069
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,720
Uh, but this has a lot of interesting capabilities.

1070
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,720
Let me see.

1071
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,840
I'm looking at the specs real quick on that flex.

1072
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:43,880
The, uh, I mean, it says it can go up to 131 Fahrenheit.

1073
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:44,880
Yeah.

1074
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:52,520
Well, at 20 at 46 and go up to 131 and go up to 149 at 25 Watts.

1075
00:58:52,520 --> 00:59:02,960
So again, like, you know, you, I would say it's kind of funny that it's saying that if

1076
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:08,000
you're at 46, I think it is going to be hotter in itself.

1077
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,000
These are fanless.

1078
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,000
Correct.

1079
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,920
Like this is a very simple switch.

1080
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,320
Um, so I think it, it's going to bring some heat itself.

1081
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:23,040
So I don't, I don't know if they're counting that, if they're saying like, this is 131

1082
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,960
it says ambient operating temperature.

1083
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:33,080
So they're not, they're not pointing the thermometer at the, um, at the switch.

1084
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:37,520
They're pointing it at around the switch to get these, these temperatures.

1085
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,560
So it'll definitely be hotter than 131 degrees.

1086
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,560
Oh, absolutely.

1087
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:47,000
Um, but I do appreciate that they've got ambient.

1088
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,120
Have you seen this?

1089
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,280
They've actually got on their thing.

1090
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,760
They've got ambient operating humidity, which here in East Texas, it's like, no, that's

1091
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:54,760
a real thing.

1092
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,440
Yeah, it is.

1093
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,400
And it's like five to 95% non-condensing.

1094
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,680
So I don't know how you're getting 95% at 131 degrees and non-condensing, but you know,

1095
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,680
sure.

1096
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,680
Why not?

1097
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,360
Well, they got to, they got to cover their basis somehow.

1098
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,480
Yeah, that's, that is, that's a thing right there.

1099
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:22,120
Okay.

1100
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:27,280
Important to know these are the things that you like, you know, somebody's like, Oh, well,

1101
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,280
we'll just do this.

1102
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,760
And you're like, uh, did you think about heat?

1103
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,160
Yep.

1104
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,640
Yep.

1105
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:43,040
Um, so again, that flex utility, just so people know that is the enclosure.

1106
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,680
That is not a specific model, but you can put.

1107
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:46,680
Oh, sorry.

1108
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,680
Yeah.

1109
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:48,680
The flex series switches.

1110
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,680
Sorry.

1111
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:50,680
I was looking at the flex series.

1112
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,800
You're talking about the enclosure.

1113
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:52,800
I got it.

1114
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:53,800
Sorry.

1115
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:54,800
Yep.

1116
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:55,800
So just be clear on that.

1117
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:01,800
Um, and then they've got, and I believe this one was reasonably affordable.

1118
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:08,240
They have a small desktop, the, that's the 16 port with POE.

1119
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:15,440
If you, if you, for whatever reason, if you had to put that many at a desk, okay.

1120
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,520
Um, I don't know.

1121
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:23,440
I feel like 16 ports for a desktop switch is a little overkill on the number of ports,

1122
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,680
but Hey, to each their own, but you could pick that up for 200 bucks, which is not bad

1123
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,520
for a 16 port switch with a POE.

1124
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,360
That is a small form factor.

1125
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:35,960
I see the flex utility now.

1126
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:36,960
That's great.

1127
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,960
Yep.

1128
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:38,960
Yep.

1129
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:45,240
If you've got that, you're not going to actually get the flex utility or the flex because the

1130
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,160
flex would be fine by itself.

1131
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:53,800
And the flex utility is a actual, yeah, different enclosure.

1132
01:01:53,800 --> 01:02:00,880
You, but you, but you could put like the, the flex mini, uh, the flex mini 2.5, the,

1133
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,520
the flex 10 gig.

1134
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:08,080
Um, cause I feel like that, yeah, I'm pretty confident that piece that sticks out on the

1135
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,440
end of just flex.

1136
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,400
I don't think that comes half of it comes off obviously.

1137
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,280
So you can plug in the ports.

1138
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,200
And back half, I think that's, that's a fix to the unit.

1139
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:23,520
So you can't effectively pop off completely, but they do have the flex is what you, uh,

1140
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:29,240
like if you buy the flex utility, like if you go to the store and look at the flex utility,

1141
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:36,000
um, it actually has the flex and a surge protector as like recommended buys with it.

1142
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:42,120
So yeah, I don't think they would do that if they didn't have a way of fixing that inside

1143
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,040
of it, which it's actually got, um, cutouts for those two things.

1144
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,040
Yes.

1145
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,040
Pretty ingenious.

1146
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,040
Yep.

1147
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,040
Yeah.

1148
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,040
Definitely.

1149
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,040
Well planned.

1150
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,040
Um, sorry, go ahead.

1151
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,240
I, I have derailed us.

1152
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:56,480
No, that's okay.

1153
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,200
And then they have new to me.

1154
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:06,080
Um, although it doesn't have specifically its own section call out like the others,

1155
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,760
but they have their ultra line of switches.

1156
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:10,760
You see that?

1157
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,800
Again, these are small form factor.

1158
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:24,280
Um, so I'm waiting for those to, to see if, if we get any 16, 24 or 48 port ultra series.

1159
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:31,240
And then does that exceed the pro max, but not quite the enterprise or is ultra somehow

1160
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,120
going to be greater than enterprise?

1161
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,120
We'll see where they go with that.

1162
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,120
I don't think so.

1163
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:42,760
I mean, it, it, it's funny because the ultra stuff that I've seen, um, or that I see on

1164
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:52,240
their site that I can see on their site almost seems like prosumer, um, which is a weird,

1165
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,200
it's a weird place to be.

1166
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:59,720
Like I don't know why you would call that ultra, but again, I'm not the guy.

1167
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:00,720
Nope.

1168
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:01,720
We're not the marketing department.

1169
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:08,120
Um, so they've got ultra ultra 60 watt ultra, uh, 210 watt.

1170
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,240
Um, and these are all eight ports.

1171
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,240
Yep.

1172
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,240
Yep.

1173
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:18,000
So obviously when they call it the wattage, that's the, uh, total POE budget available

1174
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,000
on it.

1175
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:23,160
So the, it's the basic ultra no POE and the others give you 6,900, 210.

1176
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,000
Sorry, a POE.

1177
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,600
I mean, I just do want to say like an eight watt with 210 is significant.

1178
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:30,600
Oh, absolutely.

1179
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:31,600
Absolutely.

1180
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:37,440
So you're, you're going to be pushing POE plus plus on that particular model.

1181
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:42,200
Um, actually it's only got one port, uh, with plus plus.

1182
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,620
I didn't, I'm looking now at the thing.

1183
01:04:44,620 --> 01:04:50,360
It's got seven with plus and then only one port with plus plus, which is, Oh, and it's

1184
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,360
the input.

1185
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:52,360
Interesting.

1186
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,360
So you can, so it's saying it's plus plus.

1187
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,440
You can, that's, that's tricky.

1188
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,520
I did not see that coming.

1189
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:02,520
Yeah.

1190
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:03,520
No.

1191
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:04,520
Okay.

1192
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:10,280
Cause it has a, it has a power option, like an, uh, a, how do I say that?

1193
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:21,560
Uh, you can power it not over POE or you can use the one port that has a POE plus plus

1194
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:26,000
and power it from a POE plus plus switch.

1195
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,000
Correct.

1196
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,000
Okay.

1197
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,000
Yeah.

1198
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:35,920
You have to because it's, it's able, it's still able to use 210 over the other seven

1199
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:36,920
ports.

1200
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,920
That's insane.

1201
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,920
Okay.

1202
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,560
Okay.

1203
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,000
So I think that's it for that series.

1204
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,040
Unless you see any others that stand out.

1205
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,040
No, I'm sorry.

1206
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,040
I'm just doing the math in my head.

1207
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:57,080
I don't know how you call those POE plus when there should be, should be, uh,

1208
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,120
210.

1209
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:04,240
That's 30, that's 30 Watts a piece.

1210
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,240
Right?

1211
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,240
Yeah.

1212
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,280
30 Watts POE plus that's 210.

1213
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,280
Wow.

1214
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,280
Okay.

1215
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,720
I just was trying to figure that out in my head.

1216
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:17,720
There's only 202 Watts available if you use the included power adapter.

1217
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:25,000
So it is your, it is to your advantage that you use plus plus and do this over the correct

1218
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,680
port.

1219
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,720
Correct.

1220
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,760
Okay.

1221
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,360
I'm looking at a lot of numbers right now.

1222
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:36,360
Oh, there's, yeah.

1223
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:37,360
Swimming.

1224
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:42,960
That's why I just tried to hit some of the key ones in the, in the show note.

1225
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,360
This is one of those where you can totally get lost in all the specs.

1226
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,280
Oh, and you find someone to go.

1227
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:50,280
Yeah.

1228
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,440
You find something like that and you just start.

1229
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:54,440
Wait, what?

1230
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,560
I'm not sure.

1231
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:09,040
This is very uninteresting to probably everyone else.

1232
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,360
And honestly, Chris, I don't know if you're going to be interested in this, but I'm loving

1233
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:18,360
these patch cables with the, um, the bendable ends, the bendable ends.

1234
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:27,960
Like it's such a, like it's so weird what becomes very important to you.

1235
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:35,200
But if you're servicing things like this and you're just so exhausted every time you see,

1236
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:46,960
um, you know, a network, an RJ 45 end with a cable whose sleeve is pulling out of it

1237
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,120
and you're just, I mean the copper's just hanging on by its teeth.

1238
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,120
Yeah.

1239
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,440
I've seen a few of those.

1240
01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:01,200
These these are like, it's, it's sexy.

1241
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,200
I'm going to say it.

1242
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:03,200
That's sexy.

1243
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,600
That is like, that is, that's a different level.

1244
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:07,600
Okay.

1245
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:18,240
I mean, I understand that they're totally robbing you like a one foot patch cable is

1246
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,640
$2.

1247
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:22,640
That's not bad.

1248
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,160
But like, you know, some of these I'm sure are ridiculous.

1249
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,160
Yeah.

1250
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,160
Okay.

1251
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,360
It's got a three meter at $4.

1252
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:31,360
That's not bad either.

1253
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:35,640
Anyway, I'm just saying like you can make these for super cheap yourself, but they're

1254
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,720
not going to have that end on it.

1255
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,040
No, it's not.

1256
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:47,520
And I, if you've ever been doing this, I think, you know, like that, that end is like the

1257
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:52,520
way that that's got support is just really nice.

1258
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:53,520
Absolutely.

1259
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,200
What a dumb thing to get excited about.

1260
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:58,200
I'm sorry.

1261
01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,200
No, it's okay.

1262
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:05,760
I went down the rabbit hole on related add ons and I saw rock mount OCD panel and I'm

1263
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:06,760
like, what?

1264
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:15,880
And I'm like, Oh, those are their blanks for the OCD among us who don't want it to be an

1265
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,400
open rack unit.

1266
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:25,800
One you and two you and they even have vented or they have the one you with the, the, the

1267
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:30,400
black brush material where your cables could pass through.

1268
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:31,400
Hold on.

1269
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:32,400
Let me find it real quick.

1270
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,680
So you'd actually have to be in the store to see it.

1271
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:35,680
Okay.

1272
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,040
I was like, what are you talking about?

1273
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:45,840
And then if you go to switching and then related add ons and that second column, the rack mount

1274
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:52,600
OCD panel or the anal retentive among us.

1275
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,800
It's not even, I'm not even going to call it anal retentive because I don't consider

1276
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,640
myself that.

1277
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:12,440
I mean, maybe I am, but like, it's just, you just get tired of seeing the rat's nest.

1278
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:18,680
I mean, I cannot tell you how many times I look under certain installations that I've

1279
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:24,760
done like under the desk of certain installations that I've done and just be like, I, I can't,

1280
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:25,760
can't deal with this.

1281
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,200
Like it's so bad.

1282
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,360
I do not have time to fix that right now.

1283
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,440
But I really liked those brush panels.

1284
01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:33,440
Yeah.

1285
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:42,040
The vented is intriguing because it makes me wonder if you could put a, um, a fan behind

1286
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:50,160
those and either sure exhaust out or use those for a fresh air coming in.

1287
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,840
I mean, you can definitely, especially that to you vented panel, like you could definitely

1288
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:54,840
put there.

1289
01:10:54,840 --> 01:11:04,840
There are all kinds of, um, we did this with, uh, that, uh, rack set up in the fish bowl,

1290
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,640
um, where we put those fans.

1291
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:13,900
We didn't have these vented panels, so we just had them sitting on top of the thing,

1292
01:11:13,900 --> 01:11:23,600
but they were kind of wedged in because if you get like a computer fan and you, sorry,

1293
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:32,200
this is for you who have, uh, just figured out how to make something work and just zip

1294
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:44,520
tie it to the side of a, um, um, uh, a rack, like, or, um, you know, the, I think they

1295
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:45,520
were actually zip tied.

1296
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:51,820
It was the screw hole of the, like the, the mounting hole of the fan and it was going

1297
01:11:51,820 --> 01:12:04,360
actually into the, uh, um, rack, like the, where the screw would go in the, in the, um,

1298
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,280
19 inch rack, like with a zip tie.

1299
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:16,520
Like I, I mean, I just ugly as sin, but let me tell you what, and that wasn't even a black

1300
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:17,520
magic fix.

1301
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,160
That was, that was for a piece of, um, uh,

1302
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:25,000
Yeah, the video conferencing, the video conferencing gear that was in there.

1303
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,120
Like it was just, it was so hot anyway.

1304
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:29,120
Yep.

1305
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,120
Yeah.

1306
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:35,200
But if you put some fans behind this, you know, you could probably, uh, buy direction

1307
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:40,840
that you could put, um, um, get one of these rack mount OCD panels with the vents and put

1308
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:46,960
it above and one below, and then you could point the fans in opposite directions.

1309
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,600
And I feel like you'd get some serious movement there.

1310
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:51,600
Absolutely.

1311
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,400
Air in, air out, man.

1312
01:12:54,400 --> 01:13:00,120
It's not quite as important as it is in an engine, but it is very important with gear.

1313
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,320
Oh yeah.

1314
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:09,840
Just, you know, those heat sinks only, only do so much if they're not, if you don't have

1315
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:14,080
air flow, there's not something taking the flow or the heat away.

1316
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,080
Yep.

1317
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:16,080
All right.

1318
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:24,200
I think that wraps up switches again, unless there was something else in that utility series

1319
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,120
that drew your attention.

1320
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:34,760
No, I mean, like I said, the utility series really, um, like I get super interested in

1321
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:35,760
that.

1322
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:36,760
I also get super interested in these.

1323
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:41,240
I should not have clicked on that related add ons button because now I'm just like,

1324
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,240
Oh, oh yeah.

1325
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:43,240
Yeah.

1326
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,000
I'm trying to avoid that's a whole, that's a whole nother.

1327
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,000
Show.

1328
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,000
Not good.

1329
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,120
One, one little side note.

1330
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:57,960
Now that I'm actually in the store, the enterprise campus switches are not available until December.

1331
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:58,960
Yeah.

1332
01:13:58,960 --> 01:13:59,960
Sorry.

1333
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:01,720
I actually, I saw that when we were talking about them.

1334
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:05,280
I thought I said it, but I'm probably didn't.

1335
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:12,720
They are well compared to others, they're cheap, but at the same time that's expensive.

1336
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:17,280
24 port is $200, 48 port is $39.99.

1337
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,280
Wow.

1338
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,280
Yeah.

1339
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,920
That's a $4,000 switch.

1340
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:28,640
I just want to say POE plus plus plus again, I'm just going to say it out loud.

1341
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:34,000
And if it was Cisco, you'll be paying 20 grand plus.

1342
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,720
You would be playing 20 grand and you would be paying monthly.

1343
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:38,720
Yes.

1344
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,640
Oh, that could segue me into one last.

1345
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:43,640
Yeah.

1346
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:48,920
One last thing I have a, I'm going to get on my soapbox.

1347
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:49,920
So box here comes.

1348
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,920
I'm frustrated with Cisco.

1349
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:58,240
So I'm a, yeah, I'm a big Meraki fan.

1350
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:03,600
They bottom great, great acquisition by, by Cisco.

1351
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:10,680
You get that kind of that mid range enterprise all managed in the cloud pre-configured before

1352
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,040
it ever shows up.

1353
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,600
The person who receives it at that location, they don't have to know technology.

1354
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,000
They seem to know where to install it in the rack and where to plug in the cables.

1355
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,000
That's it.

1356
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:22,000
Anybody can do it.

1357
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,960
I mean, you need that tool.

1358
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,840
I'm just saying the, the one that holds the switch up for you that we talked about to

1359
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:29,840
show you.

1360
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:30,840
Yes.

1361
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:31,840
You do.

1362
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:32,840
You want that if you're by yourself.

1363
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,720
So great product line.

1364
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:35,720
Love it.

1365
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,680
Not everybody needs a full blown Cisco catalyst switch.

1366
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:44,000
A lot of this, some do, but most of this, we don't, we don't need all those bells and

1367
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,000
whistles.

1368
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,120
We're going to use probably 15 to maybe 25% of what the switch is capable of.

1369
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,840
So Meraki was a beautiful fit.

1370
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:52,920
Yeah.

1371
01:15:52,920 --> 01:16:00,500
So Cisco and their infinite wisdom decided to blow up another product line.

1372
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:07,120
They are replacing actual Meraki series switches with their switches.

1373
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:12,240
So what they're achieving is skew consolidation.

1374
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,240
I get that.

1375
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:14,920
I get the idea behind it.

1376
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,640
I get the concept behind it.

1377
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:23,200
In theory, what we should see is as they produce fewer models, they're going to produce more

1378
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:28,440
of the others, which should drive prices down, but we're not there yet.

1379
01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:31,560
So these new ones are more expensive.

1380
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:32,560
Yes.

1381
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,960
Because they say Cisco, because they say Cisco, it's still manageable.

1382
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,960
It's still manageable in the Meraki dashboard.

1383
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,760
You still have all that capability.

1384
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,640
That's not what, Oh my gosh.

1385
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:51,040
The and on top, not only is the hardware more expensive, but the cloud license to manage

1386
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,560
it is more expensive.

1387
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:59,800
In fact, in most of the series that we've been looking at, they doubled the price for

1388
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:04,380
the cloud license to manage it, which is insane.

1389
01:17:04,380 --> 01:17:12,120
And on the layer three switches that we were looking at 24 port, those are roughly $2,500

1390
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,760
more per switch.

1391
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,400
And here's the kicker.

1392
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:27,440
We were looking at with Meraki, a all SFP switch, 16 ports, SFP plus $7,200.

1393
01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:31,240
That's a lot of money for a switch, but there's a ton of capability there.

1394
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:37,720
The new Cisco equivalent is $17,000.

1395
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,440
And it's just like, okay, you've officially priced me out of that switch.

1396
01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:50,000
I can maybe figure out the layer three switches at 2,500 bucks, roughly a piece, but at 10

1397
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:55,560
grand per additional, I'm out.

1398
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,760
But they're not making the Meraki ones anymore.

1399
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:04,400
Everything that I'm hearing from the company that we work with, they are essentially phasing

1400
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:11,240
out the Meraki line, replacing it with the Cisco line, but it will essentially run the

1401
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:19,320
Meraki software to talk to the Meraki dashboard and for all of that.

1402
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,800
And what you could always do later on is you could actually say, Hey, you know what?

1403
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:28,920
I'm ready to go beyond what Meraki can do and I can pay an upgrade license.

1404
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:36,080
I can upgrade from the Meraki OS to the actual Cisco iOS and get a ton of extra features,

1405
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,080
which is great.

1406
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,920
But on my side, I don't need all that.

1407
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:42,880
Meraki was perfect.

1408
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,580
And now you're going to charge me an arm and a leg.

1409
01:18:46,580 --> 01:18:52,040
What kind of features are we talking about here that jumps up between Meraki OS and Cisco?

1410
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:56,640
It's going to get into a lot of the more complex security.

1411
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:04,440
When you get into layer three, when you want to do more than just basic RIP for routing,

1412
01:19:04,440 --> 01:19:11,500
you're going to get into some of their proprietary EIGRP, I believe is what it is there.

1413
01:19:11,500 --> 01:19:19,760
You're going to get into more complexity around port security to where you're going to be

1414
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:25,200
able to determine only this specific device and access this one port.

1415
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:30,840
So I could, or I could just set it up to where nothing can use this port because there's

1416
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:37,360
nothing white listed to allow that.

1417
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,760
You know, most of us just need to say, this is an access port.

1418
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,760
This is its VLAN.

1419
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:51,240
If it's a phone, it goes over here and I need some POE and it's either an access port or

1420
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:52,840
a trunk port.

1421
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:59,800
And I don't care about anything else.

1422
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,600
So I'm a little frustrated with them.

1423
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:08,240
I'm sure eventually once they get through this process, they're going to be producing

1424
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:14,440
fewer product lines, which in theory should make the remaining product lines cheaper.

1425
01:20:14,440 --> 01:20:18,200
But we will have to wait and see.

1426
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,840
I don't think half the price cheaper.

1427
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:31,160
Like that's the thing is I think that again, this is like there is no shade being thrown

1428
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:43,240
on Cisco in terms of like what they're producing for the like highest end security, like the

1429
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:51,880
highest end management, like at that level.

1430
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:55,120
Like I absolutely.

1431
01:20:55,120 --> 01:21:01,440
But it's just like it's unachievable for so many people.

1432
01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:04,160
Yep.

1433
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,120
Wow.

1434
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,680
Okay well.

1435
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,100
So that's that's something new.

1436
01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:17,640
It seems like they're just they're just shooting themselves in the foot here.

1437
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:24,000
Like you had you had an opportunity here to have it's not even like you're not even you're

1438
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,440
not even downgrading.

1439
01:21:26,440 --> 01:21:29,440
If that makes sense, you're not.

1440
01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:35,360
You're having a product at a price point and you're not having to attach your premium name

1441
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:36,600
to it.

1442
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:41,080
Like why would you do that?

1443
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:47,760
But because like I'm saying what I was saying earlier is that by saying that they're not

1444
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,320
going to have half the price or it's not going to come down to half the price is just the

1445
01:21:51,320 --> 01:22:03,200
idea that it because it has Cisco on it like it's got to be this and you've got you bought

1446
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:09,960
something like Meraki where you could make it not as robust, not I mean you know still

1447
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:24,760
quality still all of the things that you want but and still the the the way of doing it

1448
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:33,600
that you want but just not not quite the full blown.

1449
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,400
I'm trying hard not to say ridiculousness but you know what I mean?

1450
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:38,640
Yeah.

1451
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:39,640
That's rough dude.

1452
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:40,640
I'm sorry.

1453
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:41,640
Yeah.

1454
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:42,840
And they're not just doing that on the switch side.

1455
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:48,760
They're doing that also on the access point side of things and I could see eventually

1456
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:56,680
they'll do it on the firewall product lines as well.

1457
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:04,400
So they're going to open things up for someone like a Fortinet who can come in and give you

1458
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:10,520
some of those capabilities that Meraki had keep it cloud managed to keep the cost down

1459
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:17,120
in comparison to Cisco and who knows who it may open more things up for ubiquity.

1460
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:24,120
I could totally see people going I'm not going to pay the Cisco tax just to have a what we're

1461
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,560
calling a Meraki equipment when it's really not.

1462
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:36,080
I could see some some small businesses to medium possibly going Fortinet is enough or

1463
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:42,240
the Unifi product is enough if I buy their enterprise series.

1464
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:48,400
Whereas the upper end of medium to enterprise they're going to say with Cisco, Juniper,

1465
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:53,760
whoever and they're they're they make so much money they don't have to worry about the real

1466
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,560
tax involved with all the licensing.

1467
01:23:55,560 --> 01:24:00,360
There's a great social media plug if you have like a if you have a use case that you're

1468
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:05,240
thinking like I really need this I'd love to talk to you about whether or not you actually

1469
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:10,680
need everything that you're thinking that you need like that feels like you're buying

1470
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:15,080
an overpriced product probably for what you actually need.

1471
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:21,260
And let's let's talk about how you could spend way less.

1472
01:24:21,260 --> 01:24:24,120
And not for my good like I'm not getting any money from that.

1473
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:29,840
I just let's talk about how you could how you can maybe do what you're asking at a lower

1474
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,200
price point.

1475
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,440
It just doesn't say Cisco on it.

1476
01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:35,440
Yep.

1477
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:36,440
Absolutely.

1478
01:24:36,440 --> 01:24:37,440
Absolutely.

1479
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:40,480
So that's kind of an update in Cisco world.

1480
01:24:40,480 --> 01:24:43,520
So I'll get off my soapbox now.

1481
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:44,520
That's a bummer.

1482
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:45,520
Yeah.

1483
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:46,520
Yeah.

1484
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:51,120
Especially when you budgeted based on the Meraki line and then you get here and you

1485
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:56,120
just started your fiscal year on October 1 and you're going oh we don't have enough money.

1486
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:00,440
Well and I mean we talked about this at the beginning like the like you've got to be so

1487
01:25:00,440 --> 01:25:07,280
careful about what you build your hardware system on because like something like this

1488
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,080
happens and all of a sudden you're like like ubiquity goes out of business.

1489
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:14,880
I am seriously trying to figure out how.

1490
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,720
Where to go next.

1491
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:17,720
How do I.

1492
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:21,120
Hmm like I've got you got to start changing things again.

1493
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:22,840
You've got to figure this out.

1494
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:23,840
We actually need.

1495
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:24,840
Anyway.

1496
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:25,840
It's a lot.

1497
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:26,840
It is.

1498
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:27,840
Be careful.

1499
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:28,840
But.

1500
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:29,840
All right.

1501
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,960
Well we'll shift to a more positive note.

1502
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:33,960
We have a boost.

1503
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:34,960
Yeah.

1504
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:35,960
Jason.

1505
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:36,960
I haven't had one for a while.

1506
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:37,960
Exactly.

1507
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:38,960
It's Jason again.

1508
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:39,960
It's Jason.

1509
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:40,960
Nobody else.

1510
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,040
He sent us a row of sticks.

1511
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:47,840
Also known as one thousand one hundred and eleven.

1512
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:48,840
Sat.

1513
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:49,840
So you can.

1514
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:50,840
Nice.

1515
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:51,840
Visualize that in your head.

1516
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:52,840
A row of sticks.

1517
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:53,840
Yes.

1518
01:25:53,840 --> 01:26:00,240
With a note that says for the pan galactic gargle blaster type reaction to the bitters.

1519
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:05,120
So if you know Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy you'll get that reference.

1520
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,120
Oh.

1521
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,120
Yeah.

1522
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:14,040
I may need to put a link to a YouTube video in the show notes to explain pan galactic

1523
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,600
gargle blaster to those who may not know what we're talking about.

1524
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:19,280
I think that's a great idea.

1525
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,520
If you can if you can superimpose you know and superimpose your face on.

1526
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:24,520
Yeah.

1527
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:25,520
That would be great.

1528
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:26,520
Yeah.

1529
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,840
But me on most if there you go.

1530
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,400
For those that have seen the movie.

1531
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:32,400
Yep.

1532
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:33,400
So.

1533
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:34,400
OK.

1534
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,880
I think that wraps up the show.

1535
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:39,480
Unless you've got to talk to you.

1536
01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:40,480
No.

1537
01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:41,480
I'm good.

1538
01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:42,480
Talk to you as well.

1539
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:43,480
Yeah.

1540
01:26:43,480 --> 01:26:45,600
It was good.

1541
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:46,720
We're keeping a cadence here.

1542
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:47,720
This is great.

1543
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,800
We'll try to keep releasing these on expected patterns for everybody.

1544
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:52,800
Yeah.

1545
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:57,000
I know people kind of get used to your release schedule.

1546
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,680
Not that people are necessarily.

1547
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:03,280
Planning their their lives around our show.

1548
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,680
But I know there are bigger shows out there that people do actually know.

1549
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,680
Hey this is coming out on this day at this time.

1550
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:10,680
Yeah.

1551
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:11,680
Yeah.

1552
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:12,680
I'm going to be available.

1553
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:13,680
Yeah.

1554
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:18,240
So we just need to we need to be regular for our own stuff.

1555
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:19,240
Absolutely.

1556
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:20,240
Absolutely.

1557
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:26,880
So next week we need to pull together the in between for us and grab a beer and talk

1558
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:27,880
about the next show.

1559
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:28,880
Love it.

1560
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:29,880
It's gonna be great.

1561
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:30,880
Absolutely.

1562
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:31,880
Thanks brother.

1563
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:32,880
Yeah.

1564
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:33,880
Enjoy it.

1565
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:34,880
See you everybody.

1566
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:35,880
India Tango Mike Standby 33 33 33

1567
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:58,380
I'm going to go ahead and get the

1568
01:27:58,380 --> 01:28:05,700
traffic going because they helped put the onboard cast on.