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Hey man.

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Hey John, how's it going?

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Good, it's good to see you.

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Good to see you as well.

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It's been a little while.

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It's been a little while.

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Sorry about missing last week.

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We had a bunch of stuff going on with the family.

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No problem.

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How's everything in your world?

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I guess as good as can be expected.

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Tori had homecoming this past weekend.

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So thankfully they won the game.

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That's always a good way to start.

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But then obviously they had the dance and everything that comes with that.

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And of course you see your daughter get dressed up in the fancy dress and you're just kind

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of like, all right, put those feelings off to the side type of thing.

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But it sounded like she had a good time.

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It was crazy, it sounded like in their group they were maybe on the dance floor for a couple

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of songs and the rest of the time they were outside hanging out in the courtyard just

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talking and having fun.

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Awesome.

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I didn't do that when I went so that was a little different to me.

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So yeah, so there's good pictures.

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I know Michelle's put some stuff on Facebook.

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You may or may not have seen that.

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I saw a couple.

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Yeah, struggling with the idea of a daughter growing up.

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Yeah, no, my 12 year old put on her homecoming overalls this morning and went to school and

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I was like, oh no.

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It's coming.

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But you know, daddy's still the one buying her a mom right now.

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So I feel okay about it.

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It's fine.

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There you go.

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It's fine.

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You're pretending.

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You can pretend all the way to 35 years old, baby.

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There you go.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Goodness.

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So what are you drinking?

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I am rolling the dice.

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This is the Real El Brewing Company Commissar, although they may pronounce it differently,

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C-O-M-M-I-S-S-A-R.

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I'm taking a risk on another Russian Imperial Stout.

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It's 9.8% by volume.

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Yeah.

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It is unfiltered, so that's probably not going to go well for me.

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Only in Texas.

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Okay.

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Trying to look at some of their label, unpasteurized.

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I'm taking a risk.

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They have any blurb here?

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I know last time we didn't read the blurbs.

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Yeah, we didn't read the blurb.

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Read the blurb.

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Let's see.

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It's got a couple of different blurbs.

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Why not?

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This noble brew evolved from its common cousins, Porter and Stout, to endure the long voyage

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to the Russian royal court.

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That makes me think of IPA.

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So this could go bad.

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Yeah, long voyage doesn't make me feel good.

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No, it doesn't.

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And then the last bit says working in the hill country from a foundation of time-honored

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brewing tradition, Real El believes minimal processing produces maximum flavor.

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I think I'll be the judge on that.

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Yeah, right?

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So you get to be the judge of that.

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Yep.

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Time for the opening.

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It's a good one.

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What do you got, John?

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So now me, present-time me, did not consider this.

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So I get to be the beneficiary of me in the past, and I had some Guinness extra stout

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saved up in the back of my refrigerator.

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There you go.

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That's a good one.

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So I'm pretty excited right now.

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You do have the opener though, right?

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I actually thought I was out of beer.

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Yeah, out of beer.

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I don't, but I'm just going to pop it on the back.

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I'm not here to give you the opener.

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You're not here to give me the opener here.

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I'm going to try it on the desk.

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It worked.

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Nice.

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Nice.

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I'm just saying, never afraid to slam a beer on a corner, John Redfern.

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Well done.

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Hey, cheers.

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Cheers, man.

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All right, how you doing over there?

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It's not as bad as old Rasputin.

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Well, not much is.

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Oh, wait a minute.

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That was super delayed.

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Super delayed bitterness or super delayed?

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Oh, I'm really sorry, man.

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I've got a backup, but I'm going to try to power through this.

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I don't know.

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What's your backup?

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I mean, I made it through a Rasputin, so I think I can get through this.

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Okay, that's true.

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I would say this will be the end of my journey with Russian Imperial Stouts.

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Yeah, I'm going to put Russians in the same place as Indians at this point.

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No, we're not doing Russians and we're not doing IPAs.

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No, no, no, no.

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I'm not made for that.

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Yikes.

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I mean, it's good to know.

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It's good to know these things.

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That's why we try different beers, right?

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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We got to let people know.

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You don't ever try it.

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They can't know.

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They can't all be great beers, but you don't know until you try it.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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Man, here we go.

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Mercy.

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Hey, that conversation, I guess it was three weeks ago now.

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Yes.

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With Jason was pretty awesome.

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Yes, it was.

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It was good to get him on the show.

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I'm just saying we may have to do that again because it's like that guy belongs here.

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He is top notch when he does.

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I have total faith in what he brings to the table, what he feels it is right to do, his

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background that he brings in from installation days and tinkering to now he's been at Pine

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Cove now for over 10 years.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah.

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I love that about him that he's a tinkerer.

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Yes.

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Us tinkerers need to stick together.

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Yes, we do.

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I got to try that.

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I want to see what that's like.

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I know he would be more than willing to come back for another show.

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We love you, Jason.

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Thanks for coming on the show.

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Absolutely.

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No, his like, but his just talking to him about, you know, audio over ethernet using

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some of the infrastructure that is already going to be there when we're building buildings.

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But even like we've got, there's another building that we've got going up and thinking about

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like if we need to have multiple runs of certain things in place for things like this.

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That's definitely in my head now.

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Like if we wanted to separate it even further than VLAN, like that might be a thing.

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I like the idea when you're running fiber, you're going to try to pull more strands than

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So the idea of giving some dedicated glass just to audio.

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And even for video, if need be.

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I think I'm a huge fan of that.

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I mean, we want to, as in the IT and AV world, we want to, I was telling somebody this the

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other day, I can't remember who, we want to eliminate points of failure.

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You're always trying to simplify as much as you can, but you also like what you're fighting

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against inside of that is you want to be as flexible as you can in that as well.

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And so running multiple cables means that you don't have, you're always going to wish

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that there was one more cable.

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I don't know how to explain that to everybody.

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It seems like you can just count up what you need, but even when you do that, like there's

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always going to be that, oh, I just wish we had two more cat fives in that or sixes.

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I mean, we just wish that there was always a little bit more.

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We had a little bit more bandwidth.

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We have a little bit more space, a little bit more RAM, whatever the thing is.

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It's just, it's kind of the way that it goes because there's always going to be that question.

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We ran into that, I guess, right before summer.

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If you remember way back when we were pulling fiber at the woods camp, we pulled two 12s

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from what was the old office to the vault outside that was the NX slash IT office.

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I remember that.

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So 24 strands.

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24 strands.

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That's a good chunk of fiber.

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It is.

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So we did that 2010, 2012, something in that range.

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Yeah, it was on the back side of the, not back side, it was like the fence side of the

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parking lot.

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Yes.

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So we have now, here we are, what, 12 years later?

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Yeah, 12, 14.

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We wish we'd pulled more than 24.

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Just because all the buildings that have been added, the connectivity.

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Yeah, that's so nuts.

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It's just like, yeah, we just don't have enough.

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It is kind of funny the way that that camp has grown to one side.

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Grown to one side.

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I was about to say sprawled and I was like, that's not right.

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Cause it didn't, it didn't go across the lake very much.

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No.

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So we're borrowing from the city planners of Tyler.

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Put it all in one spot.

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Oh man.

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Oh gosh.

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Anyway, always, always exciting.

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On that side of things.

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But just the, like the flexibility that the, even just the Audinate, the Dante gear that

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he was showing us of being able to do, even if it's just two channels, like that gives

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you so much flexibility with where you're sending audio.

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And it's amazing to me how often I get like, just in my mind, what are in my mind, very

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random requests for like the sermon audio at different parts of the campus.

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And so knowing that that exists is going to be, I think a game changer in the future of

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being able to say yes to things like that.

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Whereas before, if you're not in two of our buildings, there's not really a way for me

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to give you that audio.

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But now there are.

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So I may have to, may have to go down that road.

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Hey, let's talk a little bit about Unify.

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Yeah, let's do.

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So did you get that shared with you?

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And I put it on the other page.

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It's okay.

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So yeah, we're going to run through gateways tonight.

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It's changed a lot in just a few, a few years.

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So we'll throw out a couple older ones that we're not, I know I'm personally not too far

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removed from using and we're not too far removed from using the one at the church.

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And then we'll kind of go into the more recent additions and then some of the new little

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gateways that they've come out with that are pretty powerful.

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So talk to me about gateways because I think, you know, there's, it's aptly named.

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It's not something that I think would be too much of a stretch for people that don't know

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what that device is.

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When you think of a gate, you think of like a point of entry, big front door security.

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Like those words come to mind.

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So what is a gateway doing?

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So I guess we'll start with the old and then we'll kind of go into the new.

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So the old gateways, when you say firewall, that's really what those were because that

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was pre-Unify OS.

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All this thing did was network, nothing else.

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So I guess 20, let's see, we moved into the house in 2019, right before COVID.

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So at that time I had the first one on the list here, just the standard USG, literally

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small enough.

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It fits in the palm of your hand.

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$129, really cheap entry there.

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Had a whopping dual core 500 megahertz CPU.

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They didn't say what model of CPU.

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It had a two gig flash for basically keeping the network OS on it with a whopping 512 meg

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of RAM.

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So a lot of processing power there.

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Yes, it did have four ports.

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One of those is a dedicated console, dedicated LAN, dedicated LAN, and a VoIPort.

258
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But you could turn that VoIPort into another LAN port if you needed to.

259
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That's interesting.

260
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They had a dedicated VoIPort.

261
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This is almost like a make a mobile office here.

262
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Yeah, that or you could have brought in a PRI and deliver that into here and do some

263
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of that.

264
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So it had one gig of LAN throughput, but if you turned on intrusion detection and prevention,

265
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it craters to 75 megabits per second.

266
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So significant loss if you want to be secure.

267
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So that was the caveat to that.

268
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Wow.

269
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Yeah.

270
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And at that point in time, I couldn't get more than 100 meg here anyways.

271
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So it was like, well, 75 will do just fine.

272
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Right.

273
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So, and then the next one is what we had at the church.

274
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What are you getting at your house now?

275
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I now recently they gave us a free bump.

276
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We are 500 down, 30 up, because we used to be 100 down, but more like seven to eight

277
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up.

278
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Yeah.

279
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So that's only in four years.

280
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Yeah.

281
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Five years.

282
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Well, they've got Vexus knocking on their door.

283
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Right.

284
00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,360
Got to move it.

285
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AT&T fibers building out.

286
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So they're, they got to start moving or they're going to lose customers.

287
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Yeah.

288
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So, so yeah, so that next one on the list was the USG Pro.

289
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That one is a full one unit, slap it in the rack, dual core, one gigahertz CPU, double

290
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the flash memory to four gig quadruple on the, on the Ram to go up to two gig.

291
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And it was a bump from the smaller one had DDR2.

292
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That one's DDR3.

293
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You had eight ports in total, a console and a USB-A that also could be used as console,

294
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two LAN ports, two LAN ports into one gig SFPs.

295
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That one was again, the same one gig throughput.

296
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And when you turned on intrusion detection prevention, it stayed one gig.

297
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That was the real win with that model.

298
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You didn't sacrifice throughput for security.

299
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Yeah.

300
00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:12,000
I want to jump back real quickly to where you said one, you slap it in the rack.

301
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We I sent you that piece of gear.

302
00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:22,280
I sent you and Jason that piece of gear from, I don't even remember who makes it, but how,

303
00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,200
how, how have we not had this before now?

304
00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,200
Oh yeah.

305
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For installing equipment.

306
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Yeah, that was pretty nice.

307
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For everybody who has stood with one arm holding a server or some 50 pound piece of gear up

308
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with one hand while you're trying to screw in safety screws and they're falling off the

309
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bit.

310
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Yes, they are.

311
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Like I, I cannot tell you.

312
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It's just guys, for those of you that are installing in any situation, we got to find

313
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it real quick.

314
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:05,880
I don't know if you...

315
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,880
I was trying to look it up.

316
00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,400
It's the, the name is what's was weird.

317
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I know Jason kind of caught this.

318
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It's made by Patchbox, but it's the setup.exe version three.

319
00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:17,920
Okay.

320
00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:18,920
Put that in the show notes.

321
00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,040
Cause I just want, I just want people to know that this exists because even if you just

322
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can create one for yourself, because honestly, as soon as I saw it, I was like, why the heck

323
00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:33,520
did I not figure this out before now?

324
00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,780
Because it's not like it's a mystery where you're putting something in.

325
00:18:35,780 --> 00:18:41,320
You just need something to just hold it for a second while you get the screws started.

326
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Yep.

327
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So only 250 bucks and that saves you needing a second person.

328
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And I agree with Jason.

329
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This is like an essential piece of gear now.

330
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:59,560
I don't know if I'm going to get back to installing a whole lot, but if I do, man, I'm buying

331
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,560
that first.

332
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:01,560
Yeah.

333
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:07,240
I mean, I've got some of our Cisco switches that are pretty beefy and to have had this

334
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would have been amazing.

335
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,280
Just so nice.

336
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:15,840
I mean, I did amps, man.

337
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:16,960
Class A amps too.

338
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:23,560
I didn't start when they were class D. Like, golly, they were heavy.

339
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And you're just sitting there.

340
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,080
Hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry.

341
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,240
Yes.

342
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,080
And then, oh my gosh, I put it on the wrong hole.

343
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,080
Are you kidding me?

344
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,080
Anyway.

345
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,080
Yeah.

346
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,080
So yeah, that was a good fun.

347
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,080
Game changer.

348
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,080
Y'all check that out for sure.

349
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,080
Sorry.

350
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,080
So.

351
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,620
You're good.

352
00:19:44,620 --> 00:19:50,000
So we were just, we were wrapping up what I have on here listed as pre-Unify OS.

353
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000
Yeah.

354
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,000
And then they were.

355
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,040
There were possibly models that are older than this.

356
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,040
Yeah.

357
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,280
But again, these models even predated 2019.

358
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They'd been out for a while.

359
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:08,400
So I didn't want to go too far back, but these were within the last, you know, four to five

360
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,400
years.

361
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,520
I feel like if you go much further back than you are using the word firewall.

362
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,520
Yeah, pretty much.

363
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,920
Very much so.

364
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:15,920
Pretty much.

365
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,360
So from there, we make some significant leaps ahead.

366
00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:26,320
They moved into the Unify OS model, if you will.

367
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,160
Unify OS, just for those who don't know.

368
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,080
That is your network app.

369
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,760
That's your protect video app.

370
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:38,320
That's your access for door control.

371
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,280
Your identity piece is in there.

372
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,960
Trying to think of some of the others.

373
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:49,360
They've just, I mean, they've added to this over time.

374
00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:54,240
This is the, they're stable of offerings, of connection.

375
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,240
Correct.

376
00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:03,520
So they, with that, they jumped up into the original Dream Machine.

377
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,600
When it came out, it was an interesting idea.

378
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,720
Kind of looked like a Mac Pro trash can.

379
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,720
Still have one of these.

380
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,720
Yes.

381
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,720
Not the Mac Pro trash can.

382
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,640
Those things did not last.

383
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,800
The trash can was, anyway.

384
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:24,200
So this is a cylinder-shaped device, and it has kind of a dome on top, like one of their

385
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,200
APs.

386
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,200
Yeah.

387
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:32,160
It was Wi-Fi 5, because that was the most current at the time.

388
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:39,840
You got dual-core Cortex A57 at 1.7 gigahertz, significant step up.

389
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,800
16 gigs of flash, 2 gigs of RAM.

390
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:44,800
Had four ports.

391
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,280
I'm sorry, it's five ports.

392
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,560
One WAN, four LAN.

393
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:55,720
Full gigabit throughput, even with intrusion detection and prevention.

394
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,600
Really nice, all in one unit.

395
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,080
But you could still add additional devices.

396
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:06,440
It wasn't like you bought this and you were stuck, and you couldn't do anything else.

397
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,440
No.

398
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,440
So.

399
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,920
Yeah, we still have one of these.

400
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,520
I think Cody may have gotten rid of his, but I remember when this came out, he jumped into

401
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,220
one of those as well.

402
00:22:17,220 --> 00:22:19,840
So there was a lot of these floating around.

403
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,360
And then not too long after that, they brought out the Dream Machine Pro.

404
00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:28,400
It was like, oh, you're starting to talk my language.

405
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:34,880
So we're basically think that cylinder in a one-u rack unit.

406
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,680
And so these specs are going to be a little bit more nerdier from here.

407
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,840
So we're cranking the knob.

408
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,280
Yeah, this thing goes to 11.

409
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,280
Yes, it does.

410
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,440
If you don't like hearing this, I'm sorry.

411
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,440
Maybe see you next episode.

412
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,440
Yeah, right.

413
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,440
Or put us on 2x speed.

414
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,440
There you go.

415
00:22:49,440 --> 00:23:00,400
So again, this is a full one-u, 33, magic number, 33 watts of total maximum power consumption,

416
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,040
which is not bad considering what it does.

417
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,120
You could do up to 100 devices and up to a thousand clients.

418
00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:10,920
It was also the introduction of the little touchscreen on the front.

419
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,920
Yeah, the little one-inch touchscreen.

420
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,240
Where you could quickly swipe through and see some stats of what's going on.

421
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:21,640
Kicked up to a quad core Cortex A57, 1.7 gigahertz.

422
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:28,240
Again, 16 gigs of flash, 4 gigs of RAM, 11 ports, 2 WAN.

423
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,400
One of those is regular copper RJ45.

424
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,000
The other is a 1 gig SFP.

425
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,520
You've got nine LAN ports.

426
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,520
Eight of those are copper, one SFP.

427
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,920
Really kicked up the throughput to three and a half gigabits per second.

428
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,960
And that is with intrusion detection and prevention turned on.

429
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,400
I don't remember there being 11 ports on that thing.

430
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,640
I would have said eight.

431
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,640
That's crazy.

432
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,640
Yeah.

433
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,560
And again, this runs the full UniFi OS suite.

434
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,200
So all of those applications.

435
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,640
Talk is one that I forgot a while ago.

436
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,640
Talk is included in that.

437
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:11,280
So you've got your network in here, camera controls, access control, your telephone.

438
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,760
Your name and all of their applications, all controlled out of one device.

439
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,320
With these, you didn't have to have a cloud key anymore.

440
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,560
The original two, you had to have a cloud key in order to...

441
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,880
We jumped from the cloud key to this.

442
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,880
Yes.

443
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,880
Yeah.

444
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,320
So, and then they sat on that model for a while.

445
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,320
Yeah.

446
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,920
It had a few problems with processing.

447
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,560
I know it said it had four gigs.

448
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:49,920
When you're doing talk and network on that with four gigs, it really did struggle.

449
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,920
Correct.

450
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:56,040
We weren't high volume calls either.

451
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:07,120
It seemed like it was constantly in the 65% range, 70% range of being able to handle what

452
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:08,560
was being thrown at it.

453
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,440
And that was just not a good place to be.

454
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,080
And even before we added Talk, it was still struggling.

455
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,680
There were days that we would just have to reboot the box.

456
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,680
Yeah.

457
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,680
And it was just...

458
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:25,600
And you had lots of issues getting into the interface to try to manage it.

459
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:33,000
We would just sit there and say, hey, this is taking longer than expected to load.

460
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,720
But they kind of learned from that.

461
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,720
Yeah.

462
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,440
And then they brought out a reasonable upgrade to it.

463
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:45,840
The Dream Machine Special Edition, in case I didn't say that previous, that Dream Machine

464
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,480
Pro was 379 and the Dream Machine was 199.

465
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,920
The Dream Machine Special Edition jumps up to 499.

466
00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:00,200
So essentially that same 1U unit, a little more maximum power consumption at 50 watts,

467
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:07,960
100 same 100 devices, 1,000 clients, the same little touch screen, essentially the same processor,

468
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:15,040
same flash, same memory, but they integrated 128 gigs of SSD that you could use for Protect

469
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,480
if you wanted to.

470
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,080
But performance on this, even though it was essentially the same hardware, night and day

471
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,080
difference.

472
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,680
Night and day.

473
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:40,280
So somebody ran the, you know, power cable over the... or parallel to the...

474
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,280
To the network.

475
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,280
To the network cable.

476
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,280
Change that design, please.

477
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,520
And they didn't do the amateur hour.

478
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,520
Yes.

479
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,360
I see a quote for some of you.

480
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:58,040
Yeah, the big game with this is that it did add PoE to those built-in copper ports that

481
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,240
the other Pro did not.

482
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,840
So you had a total PoE budget of 180 watts.

483
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,160
Six ports would run standard PoE.

484
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,780
Two of those could run PoE+.

485
00:27:08,780 --> 00:27:15,560
So standard PoE is 15.4 watts, something in that range.

486
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,560
We'll just call it 15.

487
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,760
PoE plus bumps you up to 30.

488
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,640
Three and a half gig WAN throughput with the...

489
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,480
I need to make an adjustment.

490
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,440
I say one gig width, but that's...

491
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,440
No, that's right.

492
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,520
Yeah, three and a half gig WAN throughput, one gig with IDS, IPS turned on.

493
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:44,040
And then it also included a single hard drive bay specifically for Protect.

494
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:50,280
So if you want to store a lot of recordings, you could buy whatever size terabyte drive

495
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,520
you want, slap it in, format it, start using it right away, you're good to go.

496
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,240
The Pro didn't even have the bay for it?

497
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,160
I don't remember it being there.

498
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,880
That's interesting.

499
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,760
I would have thought that it had the bay, but maybe not because this one was the one

500
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,400
that actually came with 128 gigs.

501
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,640
I'm going to make sure I didn't miss it.

502
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,640
There.

503
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,640
Pro...

504
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,880
So that was a dream of a seat.

505
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,360
The Pro does have one hard drive bay.

506
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:24,360
I just missed that.

507
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:27,160
Yeah, I thought you could add a hard drive bay to the Pro.

508
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,240
We didn't do that whenever we had ours.

509
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,360
Like I said, it was struggling before.

510
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:41,160
So it wouldn't have helped us to add something else to what was going on there.

511
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:48,600
But we did start using the bay for when we bought the Special Edition, we started using

512
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,040
the bay.

513
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,840
We actually had one of these destroyed by a lightning strike.

514
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,840
I think we had a couple.

515
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,480
That was the Special Editions?

516
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,080
I thought we had a Pro and a Special Edition.

517
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960
I think it was a couple of the Pros.

518
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,840
And then yeah, we had a Special Edition and then we had to have some folks come in and

519
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,280
do some grounding.

520
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,400
Not cool, fellas.

521
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,480
Make sure that your buildings, especially the building that you're running your network

522
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,840
from, has been grounded properly.

523
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,680
And it still doesn't help that when your internet provider comes in that they don't even ground

524
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,680
their own service.

525
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,880
Yeah, that was bad too.

526
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:31,400
But we're not naming any names.

527
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,680
Then they came out with a Dream Router.

528
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,960
So Special Edition 499 Dream Router, it's only $200.

529
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:46,840
Yeah, because the Dream Router is really a refresh to the original Dream Machine.

530
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,440
So same cylinder shape, same AP dome on top.

531
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,760
But it got the one inch screen.

532
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,120
Yes, it does have a one inch screen.

533
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,120
Very important.

534
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,840
Yes.

535
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,400
Changed to the Cortex A53 at 1.35 GHz.

536
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800
I believe they upped the flash.

537
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,800
Let's confirm.

538
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:06,800
16 gigs.

539
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,960
No, the flash stayed the same.

540
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,360
Maybe it was the RAM.

541
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,360
Nope.

542
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,440
And I'll say the same, same five ports, one WAN, four LAN.

543
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:21,400
Yeah, there's no micro SD slot on the first Dream Machine.

544
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,640
No.

545
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:29,240
So you can upgrade, sorry SD, not SSD.

546
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:35,440
You could expand that memory on board.

547
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,720
Five ports, the same one WAN and four LAN you were saying.

548
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,720
Yeah.

549
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:47,440
So you still get full gig throughput on your WAN side if you have IDS, IPS on.

550
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,440
This does add PoE.

551
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,480
Something the original didn't.

552
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,440
Two ports, 40.

553
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,520
That's the catch, is you've only got 40 watts of total.

554
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,200
So if you did have a PoE plus device, you're stuck.

555
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:09,400
You've only got 10 watts left and standard PoE is 15, but if you had two standard PoE,

556
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,400
you would be just fine.

557
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,200
And then the other advancement is they went from Wi-Fi 5 to Wi-Fi 6.

558
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,200
Yeah.

559
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:23,600
And I'd say this little box is still, this is a great home option for a lot of people.

560
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,600
It is.

561
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:30,120
And that's still not a bad price at $199, because there's a lot of the Netgear Nighthawk

562
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,680
line that's exceeded even that price.

563
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,680
Yeah.

564
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,280
And I like UniFi's UI.

565
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,280
Oh yeah.

566
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,400
Oh yeah.

567
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,120
And then this is where their Apple starts to come noticeable.

568
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,120
What?

569
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,120
No.

570
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,520
Because these guys are former Apple employees.

571
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,520
Yeah.

572
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:56,160
So they took a page out of the naming.

573
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,320
I don't understand it.

574
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,440
To me it's like- They pay too much attention to the gentleman

575
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,560
that I call Tom Collins.

576
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:10,600
It's like people who say tiny little, they call something tiny little.

577
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:18,920
And we call now everything is a Pro Max or a Pro Ultra or an Ultra Max or something like

578
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,640
it, I don't know.

579
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,800
It's bad marketing.

580
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,800
That's what it is.

581
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,080
Yeah, I don't think it is going to be dated very quickly.

582
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,080
Absolutely.

583
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,320
I don't know why they did it, but it is what it is.

584
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,360
So you get the Dream Machine Pro Max.

585
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,840
$599.

586
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,480
The only thing that they haven't talked about coming yet is the Pro Max Ultra, but I'm sure

587
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,480
it's in the pipeline.

588
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,480
I mean, sure.

589
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,480
Yeah, absolutely.

590
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,120
Why would they skip over that?

591
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,120
Yeah.

592
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:57,080
So again, this day's 1U unit bumps up to 100 watts of maximum power consumption, but you

593
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,560
get a bump to 200 devices and 2000 users.

594
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Same convenient little touchscreen.

595
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:09,360
They do kick you up to the Cortex A57 at 2 gigahertz, so a little more processing out

596
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,680
of it.

597
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:16,080
You do get a little more doubling from 16 to 32 gigs in the flash and a double from

598
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,160
4 to 8 gigs in the RAM, and it also kicks it up to DDR4.

599
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:26,600
You've still got the integrated 28 gig SSD if you want to use that for Protect.

600
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,880
Again, 11 ports, but there is some improvements here.

601
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:36,000
The WAN port, you do get a 2.5 gig capable port.

602
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:42,600
Obviously, 2.5 gig can roll back to 1 gig or whatever it needs to.

603
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,880
And that's a good old copper RJ45.

604
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:55,680
Then you've also got a single 10 gig SFP plus port for WAN if you have the luxury of ridiculous

605
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,680
speeds.

606
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,680
Good on you.

607
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,680
Yeah, absolutely.

608
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,680
I wish I had it.

609
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,680
I'd take it.

610
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:07,360
Nine LAN ports, eight of those are standard RJ45.

611
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:15,800
One gig, and then you've got a 10 gig SFP plus if you need it, if you were connecting

612
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,400
multiple buildings, you can have some nice...

613
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,560
Am I seeing this right?

614
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,560
No POE?

615
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,720
Yes, that was shocking with as much as the price goes up.

616
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:26,520
They took away the POE.

617
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,600
I don't...

618
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,400
That feels like somebody didn't do their job.

619
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,440
Well, I mean, again, this is where I say...

620
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,440
Oh, we forgot to put POE in it.

621
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,440
Jim!

622
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,080
They're saying their Apple is coming out.

623
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,760
Jim, what did you do?

624
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,160
We're giving you less.

625
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,840
We're making it sound like it's more because it's not just the Pro, it's the Pro Max.

626
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,040
So give us more money.

627
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,040
But dadgum.

628
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,040
Yes.

629
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:57,680
Significant throughput increase on the WAN, five gigabit per second.

630
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,840
And that is with intrusion detection and prevention on.

631
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,840
And this was kind of nice.

632
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,000
It does add a second hard drive bay for protect recordings.

633
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,320
So if you're ever concerned about...

634
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,320
Hot swappable.

635
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,320
Yeah.

636
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,120
If you've got one drive and it fails, you're going to lose all your recordings.

637
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,120
You could...

638
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,120
Which happens.

639
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,120
Unfortunately, yes.

640
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,040
Physical drives do die.

641
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,720
You can set this up in a mirror and then if you lose one, you still maintain your recordings.

642
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:24,720
Yeah.

643
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:29,640
I did want to mention that the 128 gigs of solid state drive is also really useful for

644
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:37,160
talk because some of the things that they're doing now with your talk options or your whatever

645
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,880
are stored locally and that's really good in case something happens.

646
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,880
Okay.

647
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:50,200
I would say good upgrades, but the one down grain base, it makes it pretty much useless

648
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,920
for a lot of things.

649
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:57,280
Now if you're in a situation where you're changing out, like actually on ours, we're

650
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:04,120
not actually using the PoE on that device that we have.

651
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Correct.

652
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,640
That does not give them a pass for not putting PoE on this.

653
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,640
Like boo.

654
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,640
Yes.

655
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,640
Boo that.

656
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,680
Especially when you upped the power consumption.

657
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,680
Correct.

658
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,240
What are you doing?

659
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:22,920
So to your point, I have the SE here.

660
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:29,160
There was exactly enough copper ports to plug in everything that I have.

661
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:36,400
I could have leveraged that existing PoE for camera, APs, the whole nine, but being an

662
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,680
IT guy, that's not good enough.

663
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,920
I had to go buy a 24 port switch with PoE.

664
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:49,560
So I don't use any of those eight ports, but I've got them in case I ever need it.

665
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,600
It just feels like that.

666
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,240
Now you've got to.

667
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:59,280
It wouldn't have been that much more for them to throw some PoE in there.

668
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,000
It just doesn't seem like it anyway.

669
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000
No.

670
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,000
Okay.

671
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,040
So now we move on to one that I have never had a chance to play around with.

672
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,040
No, this would be...

673
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,080
I would love to just to see the, really test the capabilities.

674
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,080
Yeah.

675
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,080
These specs.

676
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:17,080
Yeah, and their enterprise line, they call it the Fortress.

677
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:23,160
I mean with a name like Fortress, I feel like the, so the name of Fortress and then the

678
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,880
look of the Dreamwall whenever we get to it, both like, I mean, I just got a little bit

679
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:33,760
giddy when I saw these two things, but that's, you know, proving that marketing works.

680
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,760
Yep.

681
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,480
So this one obviously cranks up the cost.

682
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,960
It's $1,999.

683
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,640
Just under $2,000.

684
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,640
Just under.

685
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:51,720
So again, staying in a 1U model, maximum power consumption of 82 watts, but you do get an

686
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:56,560
increase to 500 devices and 5,000 clients.

687
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,800
So nice bump there.

688
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:05,560
Again, you've got the touchscreen processor, significant increase, 18 cores.

689
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,960
18.

690
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,920
That's a huge leap.

691
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,320
And I guess they've gone away from Cortex.

692
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,360
I need to look into it, but this has the ARM V8.2.

693
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:23,280
Which makes me think of a V8, and I don't know what the.2 would be Fortress, Chad.

694
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,640
I'm still trying to figure that out.

695
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,120
No, there's no.2.

696
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,240
Wouldn't that be a V10 if it's 8 plus 2?

697
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:31,240
.2.

698
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:33,560
No, because it's less than the other 8.

699
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:40,960
It can't be the smaller, the last two cylinders are smaller than the previous 8.

700
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:48,160
So I've got 8 power cores, or 8 power pistons and 2 efficiency pistons.

701
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,160
There you go.

702
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,160
There you go.

703
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,160
I'll keep working on that.

704
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,840
Oh, remind me to ask you about the 2.7 turbo.

705
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,840
Okay.

706
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,320
Never mind, go ahead.

707
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:03,860
Yeah, and so you jump up to 2 gigahertz, 16 gigs of RAM.

708
00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:06,920
This does introduce hot swappable power supplies.

709
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,920
Yeah.

710
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,400
That's really nice because others are built in.

711
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,400
Yeah.

712
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,400
Possibly user replaceable.

713
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,520
I've never cracked one open just to see.

714
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,520
Yeah.

715
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:23,200
But the fact that these are user replaceable is a really nice improvement.

716
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,960
Six ports, two of them are 25 gigabit SFP28.

717
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,960
Goodness.

718
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:36,640
Basically, that is a piece of coax permanently connected into SFP ports or SFP plugs if you've

719
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,640
ever seen it.

720
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,640
That is really fast.

721
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,360
Yeah.

722
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:53,200
You've got two 10 gig SFP plus and then two 2.5 gig capable copper RJ45s and no PoE.

723
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,600
For two grand, you've got to give me some PoE.

724
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,600
Guys.

725
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,400
There's not a whole lot of copper ports there.

726
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,360
It's called a fortress.

727
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,360
Yes.

728
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,360
So.

729
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,360
No, I protest.

730
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,360
Yes.

731
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:13,160
Now, granted, if they did give you that, you'd only have PoE for two ports.

732
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,200
Yeah, I guess so.

733
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,160
Give me for the two ports.

734
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,440
Yeah.

735
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,880
Significant increase in the throughput because you jump up to 12 gigabit per second with

736
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,200
intrusion detection and prevention turned on.

737
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:35,840
So if you have the luxury of those crazy high speed internet connections, this guy's got

738
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,840
you covered.

739
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,840
Goodness.

740
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,720
I mean, that's just insane speed.

741
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:40,720
Absolutely.

742
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:42,040
I couldn't imagine having that.

743
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,000
Well, I mean, we say that here in five years, we're going to be like, remember when we thought

744
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,000
that that was crazy?

745
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,120
We'll see if we get there.

746
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,120
Yeah.

747
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,120
All right.

748
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,240
That's the way everything's going now.

749
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:56,240
Yeah.

750
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:57,240
Yeah.

751
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:02,280
I probably that we have is that we live currently in the spot where nobody has any plan within

752
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,960
the next two to four years, roughly, to build out fiber.

753
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,760
They're building all around us.

754
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,760
Just not.

755
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,760
We're just stuck in that hole.

756
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,760
So we'll see.

757
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,840
You need to figure out a way to leverage Jack being right there next to you.

758
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,840
Yes.

759
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,840
Dreamwall.

760
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,820
So yeah, the Dreamwall.

761
00:41:21,820 --> 00:41:23,960
This one is intriguing.

762
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,560
I love the idea.

763
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,280
If you're in front of a computer, you need to go look this thing up just because I like

764
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,200
we're going to talk about it, but you need to see it.

765
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,200
Yeah.

766
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,880
Well, if people have a podcasting 2.0 capable app, that's right.

767
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,240
And they're using chapters, they're going to be able to see there will be a picture.

768
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:43,240
Yeah.

769
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:48,640
So if you don't have one podcast apps dot com, I'm just telling you this.

770
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,640
It's kind of a crazy Android iOS.

771
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,640
It's all there.

772
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,640
Yeah.

773
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,640
OK.

774
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,680
So this one is wall mountable, a significant size.

775
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,360
So not a one you not a one you know, that's what you're saying.

776
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,360
Yeah.

777
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,360
Yeah.

778
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,360
This one is not rack mountable in any way.

779
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,360
Yeah.

780
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,320
Unless you want to put some type of a sliding tray and strap it down.

781
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,320
Yeah.

782
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,320
No, that'd be funny.

783
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,320
Yeah.

784
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,760
Would significant power consumption here.

785
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,800
Maximum of five hundred and thirty two watts.

786
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,680
So that's a huge leap from the previous models.

787
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,840
You get a four point seven inch touchscreen, though.

788
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,760
I just and I also want to say like we're going to get down to the bottom and you're going

789
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680
to see why.

790
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,920
Because did not skimp in the area the other ones did.

791
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:39,920
OK, go ahead.

792
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:46,480
Four point seven inch touchscreen is a big, big used to be used to be a normal sized phone.

793
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,600
You remember when that was a phone?

794
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,600
Yes.

795
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:51,600
Anyway.

796
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,600
Yeah.

797
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,600
So they were.

798
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,600
Yeah.

799
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,120
And this is what was surprising to me that Cortex A57 one point seven gig.

800
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,520
That's the same thing that's in the router, the dream router.

801
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,520
Yeah.

802
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,400
I think but I think the dream wall has been around for a while.

803
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,400
It has.

804
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,400
Yes.

805
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,400
So I guess that's fair.

806
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,880
Sixteen gigs of flash, four gigs of RAM, a little low.

807
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,440
That same integrated 128 gig SSD.

808
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,440
Yeah.

809
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:23,200
And it comes with a pre-installed five hundred and twelve gig SD card.

810
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,200
Yeah.

811
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,880
And again, this does have hot swappable power supplies.

812
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:29,880
Very important.

813
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,880
Yes.

814
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,480
And then you basically have an 18 port switch built in.

815
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:42,520
Seventeen of those are two and a half gig copper ports, one 10 gig SFP plus.

816
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,080
You get a really nice POE budget of four hundred and twenty watts.

817
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,080
That's what I'm talking about.

818
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,080
Yes.

819
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,200
That should just be across the board.

820
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:56,680
They were like, you know what you're not adding to this, a rack with another switch on it

821
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,680
for POE.

822
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,680
Correct.

823
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Correct.

824
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,680
Because you wouldn't.

825
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:07,880
The nitpicker in me says they could have made it five hundred.

826
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,600
So three and a half gig throughput.

827
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,600
Chris is never satisfied.

828
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,960
Well, you can always do a little bit better.

829
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,960
Yeah.

830
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,960
Always.

831
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:21,360
So three and a half gig throughput with detection and prevention turned on.

832
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,160
And it also has a built in Wi-Fi 6 AP.

833
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,160
Yeah.

834
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:31,480
So I think that this was like they actually marketed this a while before.

835
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,800
And I think that they've done some upgrades without changing the name because I don't

836
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:40,600
think the first one had Wi-Fi 6 and I don't think the first one had the hot swappable

837
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,600
power supplies.

838
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,800
No, I don't think so either.

839
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,000
They have done subtle upgrades to it.

840
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:53,000
I do think we're getting I mean, especially with the other offerings that they have, we're

841
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,800
getting to the point where they probably need to.

842
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:01,560
I mean, it'll be the Dreamwall Ultra Pro Max.

843
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,720
But that would be that would be nice.

844
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:06,720
I've wanted a reason.

845
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:12,080
Man, I've been like, give me a reason, please, to buy this thing.

846
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,240
Because I would love this.

847
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:18,480
And that's that's that's what I'm talking about.

848
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,600
Running everything from one location.

849
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,600
And it being in one box.

850
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,600
That's awesome.

851
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,080
If you've got a small business or even if your home has a centralized closet that you

852
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,520
could take advantage of, you could put it right smack in the middle and you would probably

853
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,040
be taken care of.

854
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,840
Just not next to your water heater.

855
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,760
No, no water heater, please, please.

856
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,280
You've got a sub you've got a subheading here called Small But Mighty.

857
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,720
Yeah, that's what I call these.

858
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:53,360
And especially the last one, I put the other the one last for his purpose.

859
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,320
And I'm realizing I didn't put some of the bonuses in.

860
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,320
So I'll add it as we are talking.

861
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,160
So these are these are fairly new.

862
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,520
Yeah.

863
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,640
These little guys, they are little fit in the palm of your hand.

864
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,400
But they do pack a punch.

865
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,200
They've gone back to the small.

866
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:15,760
They have on on some of these realizing that not everything needs to be a rack mounted

867
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,560
correct solution.

868
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:28,360
This cloud gateway Max almost looks like a an old mini or an old Apple TV.

869
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,360
Yeah.

870
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,760
Except it's not the right color.

871
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,760
No, no, it's not.

872
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:39,720
I left some pricing out to this is a tabletop or wall mount.

873
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:42,040
We've got the option to wall mount it.

874
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:49,040
You can do the this is a cloud gateway Max, you do 30 devices or 300 users.

875
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:58,920
It has a 16.1 watt Max power consumption and that little one inch display that I'm telling

876
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,240
you handier than you think it's going to be.

877
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:02,920
Yes, it is.

878
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,000
Quad core cortex a 53.

879
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:11,440
It's only one point five gigahertz, but for what it's doing is plenty fast.

880
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:16,760
Three gigs of DDR4 RAM with two terabytes of SSD.

881
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,120
Now, I mean, can we talk about that coming out of nowhere?

882
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,400
There's no way I expected that to be two terabytes.

883
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,880
No, I was shocked by that.

884
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:31,000
I mean, number one, it's a it's a little bitty little bitty guy and also like just blows

885
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:38,400
the other offerings that they have in that area out of the water.

886
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,000
But I mean, partially because there's no expansion for it.

887
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,240
There's no there's no SD.

888
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:51,520
There's no, you know, connecting another drive to it like it.

889
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,520
This is what it is.

890
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,160
So it's got five ports.

891
00:47:54,160 --> 00:48:04,040
Four of them are two point five gigabit RJ45 and two of them are two point five WAN.

892
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,520
And then there's a one point five gigabit throughput with IDS IPS.

893
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,520
Yep.

894
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,560
All right.

895
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,220
So detection and prevention.

896
00:48:13,220 --> 00:48:20,900
Very important to know how fast you're running when it's got those extras on top of it.

897
00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:24,800
I'm going to interrupt your presentation.

898
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,920
Oh, you did not.

899
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:27,920
You're number two.

900
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,680
OK, so be your number two.

901
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,520
Did you actually get through beer number one?

902
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,400
I yes, I did.

903
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:39,560
Well, this is a this is a fantastic reward for powering through that nastiness.

904
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:40,560
Yes.

905
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,240
So this is going back to Trappist.

906
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:46,760
I was on a streak of that for a while.

907
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,440
So this is the Chame.

908
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,560
I'm probably going to butcher this.

909
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Dore.

910
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,740
D-O-R-E with kind of tilde thing on it.

911
00:48:59,740 --> 00:49:03,600
And then another E. El brood with spices.

912
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,800
I mean, we're for the Trappists.

913
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,240
Yes, yes, we are.

914
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:10,240
I give them money.

915
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:11,680
They give me great beer.

916
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,320
They take care of people.

917
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,160
Seems like it's a win win.

918
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,240
Doing God's work.

919
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:19,440
It's a win win.

920
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,640
This one is four point eight percent volume.

921
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:25,640
No blurb.

922
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,040
But that's OK.

923
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,040
That's OK.

924
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,040
That's OK.

925
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,360
But I do have one other bonus I'll show you here in just a second.

926
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,880
Customary opening.

927
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,880
That's a good one.

928
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,880
All right.

929
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,760
Here is the special bonus.

930
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:43,760
Sorry, folks.

931
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,840
I will put a picture, but you don't get to see it.

932
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,840
Sorry.

933
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,840
Oh, look at you.

934
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,760
Chame goblet.

935
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,720
I mean, that's exactly what you should be drinking that out of.

936
00:49:58,720 --> 00:49:59,720
Absolutely.

937
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:01,520
You should have chilled it, but.

938
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:02,520
Well.

939
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,160
Can't have everything.

940
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,520
We're not all Jason Court.

941
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,520
I mean, holy cow, he came prepared, bro.

942
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,520
Yes he did.

943
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,840
I was not playing around.

944
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,000
He brought beer and gear.

945
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,000
Yeah.

946
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,120
All right.

947
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,120
And beer gear.

948
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,120
And beer gear.

949
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,120
That's true.

950
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:31,400
OK, so that while you're pouring out for your homies, that cloud gateway Maxis is two hundred

951
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,400
dollars.

952
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,400
Yes.

953
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:39,200
So again, I'm telling you, like, that's that's not that's not how much that should cost.

954
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,240
No, and then just so people know, it did find the dream wall.

955
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:45,080
That was a thousand nine ninety nine.

956
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,080
Nine ninety nine.

957
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,840
Right under a thousand for everything that's included.

958
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,840
That makes sense.

959
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,960
This doesn't make sense.

960
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,680
That makes sense.

961
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,440
Cloud gateway Max feels like that should be more cloud gateway ultra.

962
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,440
Yes.

963
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,040
I'll let you run with the ultra, but I'm keeping the express for me.

964
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,480
No, I'll let you do the express for sure.

965
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:06,440
The cloud gateway ultra is only one twenty nine.

966
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:11,520
So this is another tabletop wall mount like tiny, not it's not tiny, but it's a little

967
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,520
guy.

968
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,520
Yeah.

969
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:19,200
Thirty devices, 300 users, just like the Max six point two watt Max power consumption instead

970
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,280
of the 16.1 of the Max.

971
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,400
It's got the one inch display again.

972
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:31,920
It's got the quad core cortex, a fifty three again with the one point five gigahertz speed.

973
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,200
It's three hundred and sixteen gigs of flash.

974
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,760
No, that's a typo.

975
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,760
It's 16 gigs.

976
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,240
I was like, I don't think so.

977
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:41,520
I'll fix it, but that would be amazing.

978
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:42,520
Sixteen gigs.

979
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,640
I was like, I don't know.

980
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,680
You don't have a size for the DDR ram.

981
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,720
Because they didn't give it to me.

982
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:54,720
Cool.

983
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,640
Well, that's not right.

984
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,280
OK, so 16 gigs of flash and then an unknown amount of ram.

985
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,240
Interesting.

986
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:14,000
And then the five ports, four of them being one gig RJ 45 and then one being one being

987
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,560
two point five.

988
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,120
Google says three gig.

989
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,120
So that's where the three went instead of in front of the 16.

990
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,120
Perhaps.

991
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:29,320
OK, so 16 gigs of flash, three gigs of DDR four ram and then one gig of it through throughput

992
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,680
with the detection and.

993
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,960
Prevention.

994
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,200
I'm just saying.

995
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,520
Like Ultra probably would do a lot for most people.

996
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,320
That Max, though, I feel like that's that's where you want to be.

997
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,400
If you're going to if you're going to pony up for the Gateway Ultra, I feel like you

998
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,600
just go for the Max.

999
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,600
OK, unless there's some reason not to, but it doesn't seem like there would be.

1000
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,760
We'll see if you feel the same way once we talk about what the Express can do.

1001
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,640
No, I so we're not talking about the Express yet.

1002
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,480
I'm talking about these two things that are very in my mind.

1003
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:07,480
This is not anyway.

1004
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,480
Go ahead.

1005
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,480
Correct.

1006
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,480
So Unifi Express.

1007
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,200
Real quick, just because I don't have it on here listed, the Max and the Ultra can run

1008
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,200
the full Unifi OS.

1009
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,760
Yeah, that's important.

1010
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:19,760
Sorry.

1011
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,360
Yeah, that's important to let you know.

1012
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:26,240
So again, that's all the network protect access talk the whole nine.

1013
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,840
All the capabilities that the Dream Machines had.

1014
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,560
Yeah, baked into these and really important for why you would want in my in my mind why

1015
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,840
you would want the two terabytes of the Max if you were going to get the Ultra.

1016
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,840
Absolutely.

1017
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,440
Yeah, because there's no other way to really expand the storage there.

1018
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,760
I mean, you're you're toast.

1019
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,040
You're just done after 16 gigs.

1020
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,760
I don't I don't understand why you anyway.

1021
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,760
It's fine.

1022
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,440
There's somebody that the I'm sure the Ultra is exactly what somebody needs, but I would

1023
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,480
get the Max.

1024
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,480
Go ahead.

1025
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,240
OK, Unifi Express.

1026
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:02,080
This one has got me excited.

1027
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,400
I'm considering this for my parents.

1028
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,080
I'm also considering it for my in-laws.

1029
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,420
My in-laws have a slightly bigger house, so they may need a second access point.

1030
00:54:11,420 --> 00:54:14,000
So let's get into the sorry.

1031
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,840
I'm scooting around the mic here.

1032
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:17,840
He's so excited.

1033
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,840
He's not able to sit still.

1034
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,840
I can't sit still.

1035
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,120
Oh, I guess real quick.

1036
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,560
The Dore, very smooth.

1037
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,200
But again, it's only four point eight percent.

1038
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,360
The spice is kind of nice.

1039
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:37,000
OK, I could see this on like a cold winter night.

1040
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,640
OK, it's got a little bit of bite, but not bitter.

1041
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,640
It's tasty.

1042
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,640
Tasty.

1043
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,320
OK, so here we go.

1044
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:52,200
So Unifi Express, the only thing it runs is the network app.

1045
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,600
See, this is this is why you're excited about this and I'm not as excited about this.

1046
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,600
Go ahead.

1047
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,600
Just wait.

1048
00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:59,600
I'm not done yet.

1049
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,920
I'm not dead yet.

1050
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,720
So I know some of you are going, it only runs network.

1051
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:06,720
Why would I want that?

1052
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,280
Because that's all you need.

1053
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,280
Especially when you think about my folks, my in-laws.

1054
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,280
Right.

1055
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,400
These are these are these are these are people that you're doing IT for.

1056
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,400
Correct.

1057
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,400
Correct.

1058
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,720
So you're not going to put this in your house, someone else's house.

1059
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:29,720
So the same tabletop capable setup or wall mount, however you want to set that up.

1060
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:32,120
Fifty devices.

1061
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,220
Perfect for home.

1062
00:55:33,220 --> 00:55:38,480
They don't tell you on the site or anything that I could find a total number of users.

1063
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,600
But again, you're not going to probably put this in a business.

1064
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,680
I wouldn't recommend it in a business.

1065
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,120
This is great for home.

1066
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,520
You just want to have network and you just want it to work and get out of the way.

1067
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:50,520
Yes.

1068
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:55,040
Ten watts of maximum power consumption.

1069
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,200
So it's just kind of sipping on that power.

1070
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,720
You get a one inch display.

1071
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:03,520
We'll get into more of that in a minute.

1072
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,880
It can have multiple use cases.

1073
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,880
Really?

1074
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,880
Yes.

1075
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:08,880
Just wait.

1076
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,880
The good stuff is coming.

1077
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:10,880
OK.

1078
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:11,880
OK.

1079
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,800
Quad core Cortex A53, one gigahertz, four gigs of flash, one gig of RAM.

1080
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,440
I know that's not a whole lot, but all it's doing is network.

1081
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,560
It's not doing phone, it's not doing video, it's not doing access control.

1082
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:24,880
Needs to be able to do a backup.

1083
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,200
That's what it needs to be able to do.

1084
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,200
Yes.

1085
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,960
You need to do cloud backup.

1086
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,440
And you're good.

1087
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,840
That's true.

1088
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,840
Five ports.

1089
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,160
So you do have a little bit of a switch in there.

1090
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,240
Why would I say...

1091
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:43,800
This again would be handy if you are adding a...

1092
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:44,800
Not five, two.

1093
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,880
Two ports.

1094
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,200
But this is handy.

1095
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:52,440
Those two ports are handy if you are adding a...

1096
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:53,440
Additional AP, additional switch.

1097
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,440
Additional AP.

1098
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:55,440
Yes.

1099
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,680
So both of them are one gig.

1100
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,600
One is LAN, one is WAN.

1101
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:05,200
Full one gig throughput intrusion detection, intrusion prevention.

1102
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,440
You're welcome to fact check me on that.

1103
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,440
Because they don't say specifically.

1104
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,360
I did a little bit of Google search.

1105
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,920
The only thing I can find is on Reddit.

1106
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,960
I know that's not a great source.

1107
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:15,960
But it appears.

1108
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:21,720
But considering what it has, I feel comfortable with saying that it can handle one gig.

1109
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:22,720
Wow, okay.

1110
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,480
It has a built-in AP.

1111
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,920
This is where it starts to get fun.

1112
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:27,920
Wi-Fi 6.

1113
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,920
Yeah.

1114
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,320
Yeah, I know Wi-Fi 7 is out there.

1115
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,840
But Wi-Fi 6 is...

1116
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:33,920
Got to start somewhere.

1117
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:34,920
Just good.

1118
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:35,920
Just good.

1119
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:36,920
Okay.

1120
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,800
So here's where it starts to get a little fun.

1121
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:47,440
This thing doesn't just have to behave as the router slash cloud key.

1122
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:53,040
This thing can be an AP.

1123
00:57:53,040 --> 00:58:02,280
You can add this to your existing site in Site Manager as an access point.

1124
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,000
What does that get you?

1125
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,000
A couple of different things.

1126
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:10,960
It could basically be a network extender.

1127
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,440
It can serve as a network bridge.

1128
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,360
So think about that.

1129
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,360
You've got...

1130
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,560
Well, I'm talking about my folks and my in-laws.

1131
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,440
My in-laws have this for the grandkids.

1132
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,600
You've got a PlayStation.

1133
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,200
Just a little reach.

1134
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,800
You grab one of these.

1135
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,800
It hops in as a repeater, basically as a bridge.

1136
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,240
And now you can wire in that PlayStation if you want.

1137
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:43,040
Oh yeah, let that percolate and work for a little bit.

1138
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:48,200
So that's where the screen differences come in.

1139
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,920
If it's controlling everything, it looks one way.

1140
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:57,320
If it's acting as an access point, it starts giving you AP information.

1141
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,920
Huh.

1142
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,540
Yeah.

1143
00:59:00,540 --> 00:59:02,600
This is an intriguing little device.

1144
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,200
$150.

1145
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,760
Huh.

1146
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,280
$150.

1147
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:13,160
I don't remember what you paid for that repeater, the dedicated repeater or extender that we

1148
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,160
got from Unifi.

1149
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,160
That's true.

1150
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,720
But I bet this was cheaper.

1151
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,720
Yeah, I think it was more like $250 for that repeater.

1152
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,560
But I didn't know that feature existed, so I couldn't have told you, hey, don't spend

1153
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,520
that and buy this.

1154
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,520
But now I know.

1155
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,520
Yeah.

1156
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:34,760
So next time you need an extender, I'm going to tell you to buy one of these.

1157
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,760
Interesting.

1158
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,840
Yeah, so this is an interesting little toy.

1159
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,040
It's very versatile in what it can do.

1160
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,080
Again, it's only network.

1161
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,880
And I understand that for some folks that may be a deal breaker.

1162
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,840
But my mom and dad want tech support.

1163
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,440
I want to move them into this.

1164
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:52,440
Yeah.

1165
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:58,080
Because they've got my old Netgear Nighthawk, great router, but I can't help them from home.

1166
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:04,560
If I move them into this, I can add them to Site Manager and do whatever I need to do.

1167
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,600
And it might be like an, I don't mean it would be another option for somebody who had like

1168
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,200
an in-law suite on their house or something like that.

1169
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,200
Yes, absolutely.

1170
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:18,840
So like my folks, they have a fairly small house, three bedroom, but still kind of small.

1171
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,520
One of these would be sufficient.

1172
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,240
My in-laws, that's a different story.

1173
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,080
They've got four bedroom.

1174
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,480
So this is more like 1,500 square feet coverage.

1175
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,560
Yeah, that's probably a safe number.

1176
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,640
My in-laws are basically double that.

1177
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,480
They're in the ballpark at 3,000 square feet, four bedroom, three baths.

1178
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,840
They have the mother-in-law suite built into the house.

1179
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:44,040
So when you come in from the garage, you've got a bedroom with a full bathroom.

1180
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:49,520
And then you've got two more bedrooms with a bath and then the master suite on the back.

1181
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:57,400
So they could put one of these in their living room, put one of these in that fourth bedroom

1182
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:58,400
by the garage.

1183
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,800
They can cover their whole house.

1184
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,280
They'll get, because of the placement for them, there'll be plenty of bleed over into

1185
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,440
the back, into their covered patio area.

1186
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,480
300 bucks, they get their whole house covered.

1187
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,240
Tons of Wi-Fi, that's what they want, Wi-Fi 6.

1188
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,920
They're not worried about cameras.

1189
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,840
They're not worried about access control.

1190
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,760
They don't care about the phone.

1191
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,320
All they want is functional internet.

1192
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,000
Yeah, that'd be pretty huge.

1193
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,840
And right now I don't have a system for my parents yet.

1194
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,080
I'm hearing what you're saying.

1195
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,120
I'm picking up what you're going down here.

1196
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:43,280
I could give them something not as expensive as what I would buy for myself and still be

1197
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,280
able to...

1198
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:45,280
Yeah.

1199
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:53,240
And depending on the layout of their house and where their cop reports may be for, I'm

1200
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,800
assuming they're using Optum and Suddenlink probably for internet.

1201
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,280
If you could get this thing more central in the home, obviously you can try to get a better

1202
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:03,440
coverage scenario.

1203
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:08,440
But if it's a little bit bigger of a house, two of these at 300 bucks, that's still not

1204
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:09,440
bad.

1205
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,200
No, that's not bad at all.

1206
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,680
And you can remotely manage it.

1207
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,400
Remote management.

1208
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,360
You can see what's going on.

1209
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:18,360
Bro.

1210
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,240
You can go, hey, turn your microwave off.

1211
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:25,360
I mean, there's so many things that like...

1212
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:31,280
The older we get, I don't want to have to go everywhere that I'm being asked to go.

1213
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,280
Correct.

1214
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,880
It's not handy for me to leave the baseball game.

1215
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,960
I got to be able to help you from where I am.

1216
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:39,960
Yep.

1217
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:45,040
And that's one thing that we haven't really talked about today is how feature rich the

1218
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,040
mobile app is.

1219
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,040
Yeah, this is a big deal.

1220
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,480
It is far more feature rich than Meraki.

1221
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,760
And I love Meraki.

1222
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:58,840
I am a diehard Meraki guy, especially on Access Points.

1223
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:05,880
But the Unifi mobile app is so much more feature rich than the Meraki app even pretends to

1224
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,880
be.

1225
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,440
There are very few things that you can't do from the Unifi mobile app.

1226
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,040
Very, very few.

1227
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:24,240
Because you can even go into a lot of the backend pieces for management firmware of

1228
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:29,280
the actual device, look at some of your storage pieces that are there, look at some of your

1229
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:37,200
subscriptions that are there that doesn't require you to go into a browser.

1230
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:42,160
So the mobile app is a solid app.

1231
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:48,600
I'm just saying, I think that they've got a lot of flexibility for us.

1232
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,440
They absolutely do.

1233
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:56,440
And feeling better and better about decisions I've made.

1234
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,440
Yes.

1235
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:05,200
Now, I would say that they probably could benefit from some reduction in SKUs.

1236
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:10,680
Some of these models don't need to exist.

1237
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,000
I think what I've appreciated is because they're kind of staying in their lane, it's given

1238
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:25,440
them the ability to go deeper in that and not really have a problem.

1239
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:26,920
But I do think you're right.

1240
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:32,640
I think for the health of the company, that'd probably be a good idea.

1241
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,720
As long as you keep giving us POE options.

1242
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:36,720
Yes.

1243
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:41,640
So, I mean, like these last three we talked about, I think you just drop the Ultra.

1244
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,800
You have the Max, you have the Express.

1245
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,960
Yeah, I don't know why you would have the Ultra.

1246
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,240
I mean, I do know why you have the Ultra.

1247
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,120
It's a price point thing.

1248
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,560
For some reason, $129 or $150.

1249
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,400
But for $20 bucks more, just spend it and get the AP.

1250
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,760
I mean, but for real.

1251
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:13,160
And that $200 price point for what the Max gives you, I feel like that's what you want.

1252
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,560
Even if you buy the other one right now, I think probably you're going to be selling

1253
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,520
that one and buying the Max before long.

1254
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:24,440
And if you just want a network, go for the...

1255
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,920
Anyway.

1256
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:31,280
If I was talking to them and giving them my two cents, drop the Ultra, replace it with

1257
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:39,680
the Express, add it AP to the Max, bump it up that extra $20 bucks for the AP.

1258
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:44,200
And do you want the Ultra, the small lightweight guy for home?

1259
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:50,200
Or do you want the Max that's a little small, but still powerful for that small business?

1260
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,200
Yeah.

1261
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,280
And I want to know why the Fortress doesn't have POE.

1262
01:05:54,280 --> 01:06:01,520
Well, the Fortress really, they're introducing it as more of a dedicated firewall.

1263
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:02,520
No.

1264
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,320
I want to know why it doesn't have POE.

1265
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:08,120
But again, because they're presenting it?

1266
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,120
No.

1267
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,480
Because even with...

1268
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,600
Like, you're going to put a camera on something called the Fortress.

1269
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:14,600
Yes.

1270
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,600
Don't tell me you're not going to put a camera on that.

1271
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,680
You're making me think of that stupid, ooh, ooh, girl.

1272
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,160
I don't want that in my head.

1273
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,760
I don't want that.

1274
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,760
If you know what I'm talking about.

1275
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,120
Do you know the video?

1276
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,840
So you're no.

1277
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,120
Because she does that silly voice and she goes, no.

1278
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,440
So that's hilarious.

1279
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:42,600
Trying to speak for Unifi, they're really trying to portray the Fortress as the previous

1280
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,520
non-Unifi OS line, just a firewall.

1281
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,480
Crazy, beefy firewall.

1282
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,240
That's why they didn't put POE in.

1283
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,360
I think I'm not going to argue with you.

1284
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:54,360
They should have put it in there.

1285
01:06:54,360 --> 01:07:00,760
I know it would only be useful on two ports, but you should have put it there anyways.

1286
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,080
For almost $2,000, you could throw me 60 watts of POE.

1287
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:10,000
I'm just saying, unless you're thinking about using those ports for something that I'm not

1288
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:14,600
thinking about using them for, just...

1289
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,200
You're going to have this...

1290
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:22,560
I don't mean to sound paranoid, but you're going to have something called a Fortress.

1291
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,640
I'd like to put a camera in that room.

1292
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,640
Fair enough.

1293
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:30,640
Just me?

1294
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:31,640
Okay.

1295
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,640
That's fine.

1296
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:33,640
If it's just me, that's fine.

1297
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:34,640
That's fair.

1298
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:35,880
Well, Unifi, you need to come talk to us.

1299
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:40,840
Got to buy an 8 port.

1300
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,320
Got to think of the name of our consulting company.

1301
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:44,320
Yikes.

1302
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,600
Come talk to us, Unifi, and we'll get you covered.

1303
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:53,440
Yeah, I don't know.

1304
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,200
All right.

1305
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,200
That wraps up Gateways.

1306
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,200
Yeah.

1307
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,760
At least for the moment, I'm sure there'll be something new.

1308
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,160
I mean, around the corner, there's been so many new things lately.

1309
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,160
We got to get...

1310
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,160
Absolutely.

1311
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,640
Got to get into all the new at some point.

1312
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:16,160
It's getting hard to keep up with them in the way that they're churning stuff out.

1313
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,160
It's not just them.

1314
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,240
There's so many new right now.

1315
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:25,680
That's the way the fall always goes, but it's also getting expensive to keep up with the

1316
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,680
new.

1317
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:27,680
Yes.

1318
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,680
Too many toys.

1319
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,440
I'd like to talk switches, but I feel like switches has got to...

1320
01:08:32,440 --> 01:08:34,560
I don't know how you put that together.

1321
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:39,560
I don't know if that's a couple of different shows or what, because they have so many switches

1322
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,040
it's ridiculous.

1323
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:48,720
Well, I feel like it would be good to break it up just because I feel like we probably

1324
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,680
need to revisit layers.

1325
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,360
So get that burrito...

1326
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,720
Seven layer burrito.

1327
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:08,160
Get that burrito notes out, and we'll split it up based on that.

1328
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,800
Yeah, because they've got the standard line, they've got the pro line, they've got the

1329
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:20,160
enterprise line, they have aggregation, they have enterprise XG, they have the light series,

1330
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,160
they have the minis and the flex.

1331
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:28,960
There's so many options there.

1332
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:33,000
So we'll figure out how to break that one up, but I feel like that's kind of that next

1333
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:38,400
progression is going to switches from there to AP and cameras and so on, as we kind of

1334
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,240
keep this Unifi series going.

1335
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,320
Yeah, that'd be good.

1336
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,800
Are you listening, Unifi?

1337
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:44,800
I mean...

1338
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:45,800
Come on.

1339
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:46,800
Not saying we're going to...

1340
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,320
Get that social media going.

1341
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,640
For all those people in Australia.

1342
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:54,960
Yeah.

1343
01:09:54,960 --> 01:10:03,680
So I do need to get you the most recent artwork that was done, because some of it is specific

1344
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:04,680
to...

1345
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:05,680
Oh yeah, we got new artwork.

1346
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:06,680
Yeah, new artwork.

1347
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,120
It was in the most recent show, if you took a peek at it.

1348
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:11,920
Oh yeah, no, I did see that.

1349
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:12,920
Yes, absolutely.

1350
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:13,920
That's great.

1351
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,560
They also sent me the artwork that is made specific for social media.

1352
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,960
So if we really want to run down that rabbit hole, we've got it.

1353
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:22,960
Got to at some point.

1354
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,520
So that's the way to try to get these people to notice you and send you some product for

1355
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,880
reviews.

1356
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:29,880
All for it.

1357
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:30,880
So whether you do...

1358
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:37,000
I don't know if you do Facebook for the old people.

1359
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,000
Over 40.

1360
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,400
I mean, we are over 40, Chris.

1361
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,560
I feel like we at least got a start there.

1362
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:46,880
Just because there's some white in here, that doesn't mean I'm old.

1363
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,520
That has children's names on it.

1364
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:49,520
Yeah, I know for sure.

1365
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:50,520
They've got my wife's name written on it.

1366
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,760
I've got a few tiny ones over here where he likes to point them out.

1367
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,640
And then the ones in my beard that she says are gray.

1368
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,000
And I'm like, no, they're just, they're blonde.

1369
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,320
I'm going back to my blonde days.

1370
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,240
Well, that's the thing.

1371
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,160
You look at pictures of me from five years ago.

1372
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,920
This was not this color.

1373
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,880
I started getting that just for men and brush that stuff in.

1374
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:14,880
Yeah, man.

1375
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,160
No, please don't do that.

1376
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,640
The guys that I've seen do that, I just know.

1377
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,280
Just age gracefully, guys.

1378
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,680
Just, that's for women.

1379
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,420
No, stop doing it.

1380
01:11:28,420 --> 01:11:32,840
If I can live with my back and looking like Quasimodo, I can live with a little white

1381
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,840
hair on my face.

1382
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,960
Oh my gosh.

1383
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,000
You don't look like Quasimodo until you try to turn around.

1384
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,600
Well, or if you see me from the side.

1385
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:45,600
Okay.

1386
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,720
Oh yeah.

1387
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,320
But hey, it's a baked in Halloween costume every year.

1388
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:53,320
Every year.

1389
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:57,960
And every year I tell Michelle, you go as Esmerelda, I'll go Quasimodo.

1390
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:58,960
I love it.

1391
01:11:58,960 --> 01:11:59,960
We're good.

1392
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:03,320
And every year she's like, no, I don't want to do that.

1393
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,320
She'd make a great gypsy.

1394
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:06,960
She'd make a great gypsy.

1395
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:07,960
She would.

1396
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,800
I mean, she's kind of a gypsy anyway.

1397
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,760
So she's got the dark hair and the brown eyes and the complexion and the bullet holes.

1398
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,520
No, she's easy.

1399
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,240
Oh yeah.

1400
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,080
She's got it made.

1401
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,920
I did not just call your wife easy.

1402
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:23,920
I'm sorry.

1403
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:29,120
I was meaning that that was an easy.

1404
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,440
We're just going to stop talking.

1405
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:32,960
Now I have to tell her to listen to the show.

1406
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,660
Oh my gosh, please don't.

1407
01:12:34,660 --> 01:12:35,800
She doesn't listen to any of them.

1408
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,800
So you can say whatever you want.

1409
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,800
She's never going to hear this.

1410
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,520
I mean, mine either.

1411
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,040
So any Boostergrams?

1412
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,280
No Boostergrams, no.

1413
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:48,600
Well, Jason was on the show.

1414
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,520
So I mean, who's going to boost?

1415
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,760
We'll cut him some slack.

1416
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:53,760
No big deal.

1417
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,600
So that's it.

1418
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,840
Hopefully this was, I'd say entertaining.

1419
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,800
I mean, it's always entertaining for me.

1420
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:02,800
Hopefully it was.

1421
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:03,800
But I'm drinking.

1422
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:04,800
So informational.

1423
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:05,980
There you go.

1424
01:13:05,980 --> 01:13:08,680
Hopefully this is informational for those of you all out there.

1425
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:09,680
Yeah.

1426
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,400
Not too much stuck in the stats.

1427
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:16,760
Oh, absolutely it's stuck in the stats, but I feel like we've got to be able to talk about

1428
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:22,920
why these things are different from each other and why that matters.

1429
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,760
Like when it matters, why it matters, that type of thing.

1430
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,480
Like there's a bunch of stats you can just rattle through and then be like, well, but

1431
01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:31,480
which one?

1432
01:13:31,480 --> 01:13:33,240
And it's like, no, this is what matters.

1433
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:38,720
This is why we can say things like don't buy the Ultra.

1434
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,160
Just read those stats for you.

1435
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,080
And I'm telling you, don't buy the Ultra.

1436
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,080
Skip it.

1437
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,080
Express or Max.

1438
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,080
Express or Max.

1439
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,600
And what I really love is that-

1440
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,800
Maybe Express and Max.

1441
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:57,600
Maybe yes, you could buy the Express, be the heavy lifter, use the Express or use the Max

1442
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,440
for the heavy lifter.

1443
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:00,440
Express is the AP.

1444
01:14:00,440 --> 01:14:01,440
Extender.

1445
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:02,440
You're in a good spot.

1446
01:14:02,440 --> 01:14:05,840
I mean, I feel like that's a, anyway.

1447
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:06,840
It's a win.

1448
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:07,840
It's a win.

1449
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:12,400
And the fact that we've touched quite a few of these devices so we can actually give real

1450
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:13,400
world feedback.

1451
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,480
Yeah, and we're using the UI on a very regular basis.

1452
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:17,480
Correct.

1453
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:18,480
I mean, daily basis.

1454
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:19,480
Correct.

1455
01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:23,680
And I'm seriously considering buying the Express for my folks for Christmas.

1456
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,440
No, I think that's a great idea.

1457
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:26,440
I mean-

1458
01:14:26,440 --> 01:14:29,600
Yeah, they may not think of it as a great Christmas gift, but I'm going-

1459
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:30,600
Whatever.

1460
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:31,600
It's a Christmas gift for me.

1461
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,760
I'm going to get my parents some coasters to go with it, but-

1462
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,080
Yes, it's an indirect Christmas gift.

1463
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,080
That's funny.

1464
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,080
Anyway-

1465
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,960
It's really for me, but you get to use it.

1466
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:42,960
You get to use it.

1467
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,480
It's going to be good for you because I'm going to help you when I'm not here.

1468
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:47,480
Correct.

1469
01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:48,480
Correct.

1470
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:49,480
Anyway.

1471
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:50,480
Thanks, bro.

1472
01:14:50,480 --> 01:14:51,480
Appreciate hanging out with you.

1473
01:14:51,480 --> 01:14:52,480
Always.

1474
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:53,480
Enjoy it.

1475
01:14:53,480 --> 01:14:56,480
Yeah, it was good to get back on one of these.

1476
01:14:56,480 --> 01:15:00,760
Well, I guess we'll catch you next time.

1477
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:01,760
Yep.

1478
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:02,760
Sounds good.

1479
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:03,760
See you, everybody.

1480
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,760
Bye.

1481
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,760
Bye.

1482
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,760
Bye.

1483
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,760
Bye.

1484
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,760
Bye.

1485
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,760
Bye.

1486
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,760
Bye.

1487
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,760
Bye.

1488
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,760
Bye.

1489
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,760
Bye.

1490
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,760
Bye.

1491
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:26,760
Or it's not.

1492
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:27,760
That's fine.

1493
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,760
We'll just cut this part.

1494
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,760
Yeah, we'll cut it in post.