1 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,680 Yeah, we had to hit the record button. 2 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,120 We just had to just go ahead and hit the record button because all of the good content was 3 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,120 going away. 4 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,160 I felt like this was happening last show. 5 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:44,960 Yeah, I just stopped talking. 6 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,240 We got to hit the record button. 7 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,240 All right. 8 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,240 Hey guys. 9 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,240 Hey everybody. 10 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,240 Get that usual intro in. 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,720 Glad you're here. 12 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,720 Yes. 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,400 We have a special show for you tonight. 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,160 We do. 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,560 Special show, special guest. 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Yes, we've got a good one for you. 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,920 Hey Jason. 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,920 Hi. 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:10,400 Those of you who listen have heard Jason's name quite a few times. 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,400 Yes. 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,800 He's basically the only one that gives us Boostergrams. 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,160 You are the official sponsor. 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,160 Yes, for sure. 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,320 Of the Boostergram sound booth. 25 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:21,680 Yeah, that is absolutely the case. 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Well, I was listening and I heard the, was listening to the Triple Mash episode. 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,600 Yes. 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,920 And I was like, man, I really should have sent him a two. 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,920 It was so good. 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:31,920 That was amazing. 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,520 I'm like, oh no, oh no. 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,120 This stuff is too good. 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,160 I was looking at merch like immediately. 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:45,880 Anyway, that takes a little bit, but yeah, we got to find a quicker way to get that to 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,880 Texas. 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,880 That's all I'm saying. 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,880 There you go. 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:54,800 I was surprised maybe to receive an invite to be here. 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,040 You absolutely shouldn't be surprised. 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,800 And I wasn't certain what to bring to the table. 41 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:00,800 So you brought a few things? 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,560 I brought some beer and some gear. 43 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,560 Nice. 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,560 I'm so excited. 45 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,560 Well played, sir. 46 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,560 Well played. 47 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,560 So what are we drinking? 48 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,880 I haven't made up my mind yet. 49 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Okay. 50 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,560 You want to show us what you got? 51 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,240 This is smorgasbord two weeks in a row. 52 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,400 Last week, we were a little bit disappointed. 53 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,240 The last episode, I heard that there was three options. 54 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,240 Yeah. 55 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,280 Well, I don't know. 56 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,600 Chris was complaining about the bitter. 57 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,000 I see a milk stout. 58 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Yeah. 59 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,280 I've never had that one. 60 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,400 So I went three from the same, you know, Michigan. 61 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,400 Yeah. 62 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,400 Founders. 63 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,400 Gotta represent. 64 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,400 Founders. 65 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Way to go, founders. 66 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,640 So you got the founders porter, breakfast stout. 67 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:44,320 And the dirty bee. 68 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,320 Yep. 69 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,320 That one. 70 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:47,320 Keep it PG for the kids out there. 71 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,320 There you go. 72 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,320 Do we have any kids listening to us? 73 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,320 Who knows? 74 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,320 Overspill. 75 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:52,320 That's secondhand listening. 76 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,320 Secondhand listening. 77 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,440 Oh, nice. 78 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,920 That is a great way to put that. 79 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:00,120 A Bach that I haven't ever had. 80 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,120 Ziegenbach. 81 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,120 Yeah. 82 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,120 That's an old faithful. 83 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,120 And then a few left-hand brewing. 84 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,120 Left-hand brewing. 85 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,120 The milk stout. 86 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,120 Yeah. 87 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,120 And then. 88 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,120 Oh, the nitro. 89 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Nitro. 90 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Milk stout nitro. 91 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,240 Or you just, you don't know what to do with yourself. 92 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,240 Listen, the guest has to pick first. 93 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,880 I'm like drooling over this. 94 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:20,880 This is nice. 95 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,680 Give me your opener. 96 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,960 I'm going to drink my Hoffbrau. 97 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Hoffbrau. 98 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,480 I've got my, I've got my dunkle that I didn't drink last time. 99 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,480 Drink dunkle. 100 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,480 It's good. 101 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,480 I know. 102 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,480 It's good. 103 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,480 It's going to be great. 104 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,480 I think I also have a Rasputin if anybody wants to feel bad about themselves. 105 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,480 I think you should drink the Rasputin. 106 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,480 No. 107 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,880 I'm not going to subject our guest to the Rasputin. 108 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,960 Listen, I will drink this dunkle and then if we get to number two, maybe it won't taste 109 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:44,960 so bad. 110 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,280 I can tell you why I'm not a, a bitter beer person. 111 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,520 So IPA is not happening. 112 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Did you hear that? 113 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,520 That was awesome. 114 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,520 I'm glad I got that. 115 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Yeah, no, I don't do IPAs either. 116 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,600 I was talking to one of our friends about that and that just that understanding that 117 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:09,480 like IPAs are IPAs because they had to be made that way to make it to India. 118 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,480 Is that it? 119 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:16,520 And it's like, yeah, you don't do that on purpose though. 120 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,000 It is an unfinished beer. 121 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,240 Don't drink that. 122 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,440 It's supposed to be on a boat for like a few months and then you drink it. 123 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,440 Has to be aged. 124 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:30,520 Aged in a barrel for a few months at sea. 125 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,580 And poured through an oil filter. 126 00:04:32,580 --> 00:04:35,560 And then sloshed back and forth a lot. 127 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,720 Anyway, my brother loves IPAs. 128 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,720 I don't get it. 129 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:39,720 I'm with you. 130 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,160 I don't get it either. 131 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,160 So I don't know, Chris. 132 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,440 Oh no, you, you brought, you choose. 133 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,960 No, that is, that is true. 134 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,840 See the, the point of doing like the, oh, he chose the milk. 135 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:49,840 He took the Nitro. 136 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:50,840 Took the Nitro. 137 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:56,600 But that's the, that was the point of bringing three options, but there were two of each. 138 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,320 Oh no, I wasn't going to be that kind. 139 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,320 Yeah. 140 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,320 That's not nice. 141 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,320 Yeah. 142 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Not nice. 143 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,320 And the frosty mug. 144 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,000 Like, how did you do that? 145 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,040 It's just a, you just had ice in your bag there. 146 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,920 Now I know why you brought the other bag. 147 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,920 Yeah. 148 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,920 Nice. 149 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,920 Well done. 150 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,920 You see the chiropractor, you get this thing. 151 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,920 Yeah. 152 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,520 There's a wrap for your back. 153 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:18,520 Cold wrap. 154 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,520 Yeah. 155 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,440 You've seen that used for putting your pint in it. 156 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,280 That's, I'm just saying. 157 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:27,280 Not a bad idea. 158 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:29,760 Jason, Jason was born for this podcast. 159 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,760 Apparently so. 160 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,760 I don't know. 161 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,960 He, if not born, he was at least bred for it. 162 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,960 So. 163 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:35,960 All right. 164 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,960 I will try the milk stuff. 165 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,120 I haven't had that one yet. 166 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,120 The left hand. 167 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Yeah. 168 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Left hand milk. 169 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,000 You've got your, you've got your like job. 170 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,160 I got my left hand and I'll put a Guinness in the right. 171 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,160 There you go. 172 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,160 Don't just don't pour them in. 173 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,160 Oh my gosh. 174 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,160 No mix. 175 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,160 No. 176 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,160 Anyway. 177 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,160 Cheers fellas. 178 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,160 Oh sorry. 179 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,160 Are you going to share the opener? 180 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,160 Yeah. 181 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,160 You were pointing it. 182 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,160 I was like, I have no idea what you're doing. 183 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,160 Yeah. 184 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,160 I was, you know, behind the scenes stuff. 185 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,160 No, I'm not going to share the opener. 186 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,160 John is not sharing the knife folks. 187 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,160 Sorry. 188 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,800 It's, I mean, you know, when, when you're looking at everybody else like, oh man, look 189 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:11,800 at that. 190 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:12,800 Oh. 191 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,880 We got some, what is it? 192 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Is it ASMR? 193 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:18,880 I always get this one. 194 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,920 Hey, it's a hard pour this, but that was not what I did. 195 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,440 You did for part of it, at least it looks tasty. 196 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,480 The head is forming. 197 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,480 Wow. 198 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:30,480 Empty. 199 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,480 Feel, feel good about that. 200 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,480 Nothing. 201 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,480 All right. 202 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,480 Here we go. 203 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,480 Cheers. 204 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,480 Cheers. 205 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,480 What's the verdict? 206 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,680 Ooh, that's good. 207 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,440 The milk stout guys have enjoyed what they're drinking. 208 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,440 That's tasty. 209 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,440 Likewise. 210 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,440 I think it's just the nitro. 211 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:02,000 You're sure you don't want the Rasputin. 212 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,000 That can be number three. 213 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Cause I won't care then. 214 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,200 But by three, we're like, no, it's, I don't taste anything. 215 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,200 Just whatever. 216 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:14,720 So, I mean, what you're saying is true, Jason, and probably what you have is what I have 217 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,720 plus nitro. 218 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Plus nitro. 219 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:17,720 Yeah. 220 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,160 Go nitro or go home. 221 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,160 Yes. 222 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Listen. 223 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,160 Wait. 224 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Yes. 225 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:30,240 No, I did get the, I went back to East Texas brewery and got the. 226 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,240 Their nitro stout? 227 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,400 I don't remember the name of it. 228 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,400 I had to look it up. 229 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,400 McGinnis. 230 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,400 That's right. 231 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,400 McGinnis. 232 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,400 McGinnis, nitro. 233 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,400 Yes. 234 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,200 Cause you got, I feel like you got the nitro and I just got the McGinnis. 235 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Yes. 236 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Okay. 237 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,200 Anytime I see- 238 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,640 I was trying to explain that to somebody and I was like, it wasn't the same thing. 239 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Yeah. 240 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,040 Whenever there's a nitro on the menu, you have my attention. 241 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,040 Yeah. 242 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,040 Listen. 243 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,040 Okay. 244 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,040 I'm listening to you. 245 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,040 Yes. 246 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,040 Now give me the nitro. 247 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,040 Now give me the nitro. 248 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,040 There you have it. 249 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,040 Well, it was a good show. 250 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Yeah. 251 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,680 Just going to sit here and drink for a little bit. 252 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,680 Yes. 253 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:14,800 So before we actually get into why we're here, I was asking Chris when we were walking in 254 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:20,640 Jason, if he had heard about what Rode just dropped, have you, did you see what Rode just 255 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:21,640 dropped? 256 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:22,880 I haven't even pulled it up. 257 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,880 I had not heard. 258 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:24,880 Okay. 259 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,760 And Chris was just talking about what he saw. 260 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:27,760 Yeah. 261 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,640 And we kind of laughed a little bit at the beginning. 262 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:30,640 We kind of laughed a little bit. 263 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:37,920 So Rode has always, not always, Rode has been manufacturing microphones for a long time. 264 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,360 And then it was really cool whenever they came into this like, oh, we should do this 265 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,200 podcaster thing. 266 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:51,360 So they had some microphones that they really like pointed towards podcasting. 267 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,160 They were like, this is a good idea. 268 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,640 And then they were like, we're going to make this interface. 269 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,800 And I mean, it's what we're using tonight. 270 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,320 It's what Chris, you have one. 271 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:08,480 The Rodecaster Pro and then the Rodecaster Pro 2 that we're using now, I think really 272 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,000 like are fantastic products. 273 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,360 And I have enjoyed watching what they're doing with that. 274 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,400 And Chris and I have talked about this quite a few times. 275 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:24,120 Like they did the Pro, came out with the Pro 2 and when they did that, they also were like, 276 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,840 hey, we know some of you don't need all of these channels. 277 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,240 It's basically just you or just you and a guest. 278 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,320 What if we do this in a smaller form factor, make it a little bit easier to get to? 279 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,320 Cool. 280 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,600 Everybody likes that, which evidently there were a couple of problems with it lately. 281 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:40,600 Yep, USB. 282 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:46,360 With some firmware hopefully being able to fix it, hopefully in the... 283 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,240 Anyway, but one of the other products that they released and what we have talked about 284 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:59,240 a few times is maybe something that I wanted to look at was the Stream X, which is a small, 285 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,960 like super small interface. 286 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,440 But it has an XLR and it has a HDMI in. 287 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,000 So this is for a single person to have a single camera. 288 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,800 And if you needed to, you could leverage one of the USBs for a second mic if you had to 289 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:16,800 in a pinch. 290 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,920 But it's really like there are no faders. 291 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,920 It's too small. 292 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,600 Like it is very much like you have to choose what you are interacting with at any given 293 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,680 time and their knobs. 294 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:32,280 And so it's a very simple thing, but could be really useful, especially for those of 295 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,920 us that really like to integrate with video stuff. 296 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:41,800 You've got to really like their software in order to effectively control that one. 297 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:50,320 Well, they heard my wondering, which was, I wonder why Rode doesn't beef this thing 298 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:56,960 up a little bit and give a better example here. 299 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:02,040 Because I've been sitting here thinking like, well, I'm going to have to integrate the 300 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:08,200 Rodecaster with Blackmagic stuff. 301 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:13,320 And we all know there's nothing wrong with Blackmagic as long as you have a fan. 302 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,320 A fan. 303 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,160 True statement. 304 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:21,240 But sure enough, Rodecaster came out with the Rodecaster video. 305 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,880 The clouds have opened. 306 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,320 The clouds have opened and they have done this. 307 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,600 Now I was initially disappointed, I will say that, because when I looked at it, I was like, 308 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,520 you gave us four, at least, I mean, it has four HDMI inputs. 309 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,560 You all can pull it up if you want to. 310 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:42,780 On Rode.com it is their featured product right now. 311 00:11:42,780 --> 00:11:47,520 But they gave us four video inputs, the four HDMIs, there's actually more than that, but 312 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:52,200 four HDMIs and there's only two XLRs. 313 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,880 And I was like, okay, that, like, it feels like that was a little bit. 314 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,140 Two shots per person. 315 00:11:58,140 --> 00:12:01,560 Two shots per person. 316 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:07,920 And we are talking about video shots, not other shots, but you know, probably that wouldn't 317 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:08,920 hurt either. 318 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:09,920 Yeah. 319 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,480 And I mean, it just felt too specific to me. 320 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,680 But then I found out, not only is one of the USB-C's, or two of the USB-C's, it's hard to 321 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:25,080 tell how they, like, I've read a couple different things that have made me wonder whether or 322 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:34,280 not the two USB-C's that are labeled as video or microphone, if those are able to be used 323 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:40,000 as both microphones, or if one of them has, like, if they have to be one or the other, 324 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,560 if you can use them both at the same time, even with that. 325 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:45,640 So they'll get you in a future firmware update. 326 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,080 Yeah, that's always what that means. 327 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:53,680 But it is interesting to note that it has not been super transparent with what that 328 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:59,520 is, at least on the initial release of this product. 329 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:05,200 But what I was excited about was that they do have the integration like the Rodecaster 330 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:17,360 Pro does with the Rode wireless mic Pro and I think Go, maybe just one, I don't remember. 331 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:26,580 But instead of just having one receiver, it can actually receive both of the, or two wireless 332 00:13:26,580 --> 00:13:28,580 Pro transmitters. 333 00:13:28,580 --> 00:13:29,580 Gotcha. 334 00:13:29,580 --> 00:13:34,240 So that's a big deal. 335 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:40,960 You can just use your XLR inputs as shotguns at that point. 336 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,960 You could. 337 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,080 Now would you like to tell everybody the official price? 338 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,880 No, I don't because that is the bummer. 339 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:57,300 We'll sleep better tonight knowing that you probably aren't going to get this right off 340 00:13:57,300 --> 00:14:00,680 the... anyway. 341 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:01,680 It's $1,200. 342 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:04,360 I'll catch it when they clearance it out. 343 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,880 Yeah, I mean, yeah, we'll see. 344 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,280 But you can get it at B&H, like even on their website, it's like, hey, look at B&H. 345 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,760 I was like, wow. 346 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:22,040 Have you dabbled much with Blackmagic's audio bits and pieces and processing? 347 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,320 I've done a little bit. 348 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,760 But like I said, I like Blackmagic. 349 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,520 I almost said I like B&H. 350 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,080 I do like B&H when they're open. 351 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,640 Not during Jewish holidays. 352 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,520 I mean, it is Rosh Hashanah coming up. 353 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,360 So hurry up and order. 354 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,360 Hurry up and order. 355 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,480 If you're going to order, you better order now because they're going to be closed for 356 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,480 a little bit. 357 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:51,120 And I mean, don't get me wrong, it just always seemed like when I needed something was when 358 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,560 there was a holiday that I did not know about. 359 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,560 Multi-day holiday. 360 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Multi-day holiday. 361 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,400 I'm like, come on, guys. 362 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,680 Anyway, respect it. 363 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:00,960 It's great. 364 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:08,880 But it definitely, my Blackmagic, it's not a distrust. 365 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,320 It's not like I'm whatever. 366 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:17,840 I'm always a little bit like expecting something to go a little bit haywire. 367 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,080 It doesn't matter what product it is that I'm using of theirs. 368 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,280 I'm always expecting some sort of glitch. 369 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Like needing a fan. 370 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,720 Like needing a fan. 371 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,640 Like, oh, you're not functioning because there's not air blowing against you right now. 372 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,400 I couldn't tell you how many times I had to send somebody out to buy a fan because I forgot 373 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,400 it. 374 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,400 Yeah. 375 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,960 I was like, no, you need a fan for that piece of gear. 376 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,980 You've got to blow the fan at the back of this product or it will not function. 377 00:15:43,980 --> 00:15:47,420 They put huge heat sinks on the back, but somebody said it doesn't need a fan. 378 00:15:47,420 --> 00:15:48,420 It doesn't need a fan. 379 00:15:48,420 --> 00:15:50,240 It's got huge heat sinks. 380 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,080 Have you ever rack mounted anything? 381 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,520 You need a fan, man. 382 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,480 Anyway, I don't know. 383 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:04,200 It's that thing that I'm like, I just, just this much more, man. 384 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,680 And I would have been like totally sold on you as a company. 385 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:16,160 I can tell you that the audio that they have in their software suite for doing post editing 386 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,160 and whatnot is pretty impressive as far as... 387 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,160 You mean DaVinci? 388 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,160 Yeah. 389 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,560 Well, I can't think of the... 390 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,560 What's the audio? 391 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,000 The audio plugin that is a part of their application. 392 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,720 But DaVinci is the video. 393 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:30,720 Yes. 394 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,360 But I have done a lot of overdub work with that and applied effects and processing and 395 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:39,520 whatnot and I'm pretty impressed with how it lands it on the track. 396 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:40,520 Yeah. 397 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,160 You don't need a fan for the software. 398 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,160 No. 399 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,480 It's working in a machine that has a fan. 400 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,480 Very true. 401 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:48,480 I'm just saying. 402 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,480 Apparently fans are there like... 403 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,480 I'm with you. 404 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,480 Achilles heel. 405 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,480 They don't want noise. 406 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,880 You know what? 407 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,840 It needs to be quiet. 408 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,320 Something like that. 409 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,760 But that's not why we asked you to join this podcast. 410 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:01,760 No. 411 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,960 I do have one question real quick though. 412 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,120 When did Rode go all white with their gear? 413 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:08,600 Do you see that? 414 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,120 Yeah, they have a few. 415 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:11,800 Oh my gosh. 416 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:12,800 Yeah. 417 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,880 I think it's just one of those... 418 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,920 Mic stand, Rodecasters. 419 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,920 Yeah. 420 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,320 They make everything in white as well as black it seems. 421 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,200 I know why they did it with the wireless mics. 422 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,560 Because you want to ride in a groom. 423 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,240 I have also taped a lot of microphones with white e-tape. 424 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,240 That's right. 425 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,240 To hide it. 426 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,240 Just gotta hide it. 427 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,240 I don't think I like the white. 428 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,920 I mean, you don't have to like the white. 429 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,080 But it is weird that everything is white. 430 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,280 No, but they did the Rodecaster Pro in white. 431 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:54,200 They did the microphones like the PodMic. 432 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,120 PodMic USB. 433 00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:59,320 I think the Broadcaster is also in white there. 434 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,840 And then Duo and all of that. 435 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,360 I mean, it's just like everything is in white as well. 436 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:05,920 I was like, okay. 437 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,600 I mean, no, it's the NTH100. 438 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,700 That's what that is. 439 00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:13,000 It says it right there. 440 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,320 No, that's the headphones. 441 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:16,320 Yeah, NTH100. 442 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:22,840 And it looks like the PSA1 Plus. 443 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:23,840 Public service announcement? 444 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,840 Yes. 445 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,640 It's a good mic arm though. 446 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,640 Plus one. 447 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:28,640 Plus. 448 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,640 One plus. 449 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:30,640 Come on. 450 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,640 With the twist. 451 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,640 Anyway, it's a lot. 452 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:41,080 I don't know why. 453 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,840 But they've got some good stuff coming out. 454 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:53,200 So be looking at Rode, figure out how we're going to afford that beautiful piece of plastic. 455 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,200 We need a ton of boosts. 456 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,200 Look at you, Jason. 457 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,200 Yeah, I see. 458 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,200 Jason, I don't know. 459 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,880 I think if you add up all the boosts I've sent, just because it's fun to do it, it's 460 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,680 like, here's 25 cents. 461 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,680 Here's 30 cents. 462 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,080 I mean, it's just fun to do. 463 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,080 Right? 464 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,120 I can give you a running total. 465 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:14,120 Up to you, man. 466 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:15,600 I don't know what everybody's doing. 467 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Bitcoin rates or? 468 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:17,600 Oh, wow. 469 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,160 Yeah, see, we're just holding on to it. 470 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,560 It's going to spike again. 471 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,560 There you go. 472 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:27,560 I'll throw out Sats first and then the dollars. 473 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,560 So it sounds better in Sats, I'll admit. 474 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,560 Of course it does. 475 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,560 17,238 Sats. 476 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,560 Wow, dude. 477 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,560 That sounds awesome. 478 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,560 Listen, money bags. 479 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,560 Yeah. 480 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,560 Cash value, $11.22. 481 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,400 That's not nothing. 482 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,400 I'll take it. 483 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,240 It's not a nothing burger. 484 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,240 I'm just saying. 485 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,280 I mean, if Bitcoin doubles, it's $22. 486 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,280 Right. 487 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,280 That's correct. 488 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,280 It's going to be great. 489 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,280 Just can't wait. 490 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Put it in the bank. 491 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:58,120 Or buy a beer. 492 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:03,600 Here at this critical juncture, we feel like we are going to buy a beer. 493 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,100 Okay. 494 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:07,240 So let's actually get into it. 495 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,240 Okay. 496 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:15,320 Because Jason, I get the general concept, but I feel like there's a lot that I've got 497 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,880 to be missing here. 498 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,880 Talk to me about audio over ethernet. 499 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,320 I don't know that you would be missing too much. 500 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,400 I just need you to lay it out there for us. 501 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,400 Turn up the nerd knob. 502 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,400 Turn up the nerd knob. 503 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,400 If you can find the nerd knob. 504 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,400 This one goes to 11. 505 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,280 Why can't you just make it louder and keep it 10? 506 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,920 Crank it to 11 and rip the knob off. 507 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,920 This one goes to 11. 508 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,240 But it goes to 11. 509 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,800 Beautiful quote. 510 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,340 Yeah. 511 00:20:43,340 --> 00:20:51,200 So we're talking mainly, my experience with audio over IP is all in the world of Dante. 512 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,000 Which is, I don't know if you would call it protocol. 513 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,240 I kind of think of it as that. 514 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,120 It's definitely turning into that. 515 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:06,400 The number of integrations that they have make it fairly industry widespread. 516 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,160 I don't know how to say that any better. 517 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,200 It's all over the place. 518 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:18,800 You could download software, pay for the license, get a few channels on your laptop in and out. 519 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,740 A lot of manufacturers are either baking it into their product or they're making cards 520 00:21:23,740 --> 00:21:25,240 that you can slide into product. 521 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,560 I'm seeing a lot of cards. 522 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,800 A lot of digital audio consoles will have a Dante card. 523 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,720 Depending on how they built their console and what its capabilities are, you can purchase 524 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,200 cards sometimes based on how much I.O. you want. 525 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,160 You might be able to find a card that does 64 in and out. 526 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,740 You might be able to find one that does 128 in and out. 527 00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:51,840 They make them all the way up to 512 channels in and out. 528 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,720 Which is kind of crazy when you start trying to figure out how much bandwidth you're going 529 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,280 to consume going over that. 530 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:05,480 At what point are we like, oh no, these switches need to be 10 gig? 531 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,480 10 gig? 532 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,480 Multi gig? 533 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:13,080 We need to be going to some fiber between these. 534 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:20,400 Work related, this idea of using Dante came about maybe in its inception for me back when 535 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:30,320 there was a program at camp related to schools learning wilderness things. 536 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,280 There was talk from one of the directors that they wanted to have some type of welcoming 537 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:41,000 music playing with intermittent announcements about where their cabin is and when they're 538 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,160 going to meet next. 539 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,760 They wanted this all playing from a central location and they were across two different 540 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,760 properties. 541 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,560 The properties were connected over the network. 542 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,840 I absolutely love it. 543 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,240 We could go pirate FM. 544 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,040 When program people are like, I've got an idea. 545 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,640 So that's where this originated from. 546 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,120 It's a good thing I'm a magician. 547 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:03,120 Show that one. 548 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:08,480 I just did the whole thumb separation trick. 549 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,960 We really need a camera in here. 550 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,160 The whole thumb separation trick. 551 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,480 I did that one on my kids yesterday and Levi lost his mind. 552 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,280 I made a lot of noises when I did it and I got a shout from the other room saying, are 553 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,280 you okay? 554 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,520 I thought I threw my back out or something. 555 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,320 No, I'm just pulling my finger off. 556 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,640 Just doing tricks for the kids. 557 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,920 Oh my gosh. 558 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,120 No, I'm not okay. 559 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,840 My thumb is gone. 560 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,640 Of course Levi thinks he's got it figured out. 561 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,440 He's trying to do it to people and it's just too cute. 562 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,440 Nice. 563 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,040 But I don't remember exactly when Dante came about. 564 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,080 It's been around for a while. 565 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,800 And then the company that developed Dante is a parent company behind it and it's called 566 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Audinate. 567 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,760 So Audinate licenses Dante. 568 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,800 They develop it. 569 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:02,880 They only make three or four pieces of hardware themselves other than the chips. 570 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,940 And I have a couple of them here. 571 00:24:04,940 --> 00:24:09,880 Some two channel in, some two channel out, but they're literally just like rat tails 572 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,000 that are POE powered. 573 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,800 And the thought was is that we could put the software license on one computer. 574 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,960 We could stream this out. 575 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:24,920 We could get your powered speakers, whether it's your QSC K Series or some old Mackey 576 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,040 450s that are still floating around and you could plug these bad boys in there. 577 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,560 That was really cute how he threw a bone to us. 578 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,560 Old Mackey users. 579 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,080 I'm just saying there was a lot of them. 580 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,080 And there still are. 581 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,120 We didn't have the money that you have now. 582 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:43,240 I'm going to go ahead and say that out loud. 583 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,360 You may. 584 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:46,360 But the idea was that... 585 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,360 Soundbox. 586 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:48,360 That was never a thing. 587 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,720 Those are pretty slick too. 588 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,960 The idea was that you could just plug this into the back of the... 589 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:59,080 So it has a network jack on one side, a little breakout with two XLRs. 590 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,840 And you could plug this into the back of the speaker, plug the speaker into the wall, run 591 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,800 a network cord to it so we could set these speakers around the property at different strategic 592 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,320 locations and broadcast this program audio out. 593 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,280 And nothing ever came of it. 594 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,360 I don't know if at the time it was cost, price, something about it. 595 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:23,720 Wasn't quite what they wanted it to be. 596 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:31,080 But then, was it three or four years ago now, one of the camps that does a carnival on Friday 597 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:37,280 evenings wanted to really bring that experience with audio up a notch, but they really didn't 598 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,440 want to be stringing... 599 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,440 Cables. 600 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,440 Cables everywhere. 601 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,440 XLR mic... 602 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,440 That's hard to believe. 603 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,440 Why wouldn't you want to do that? 604 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,440 You don't want trip hazards everywhere? 605 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,960 You're going to bury them in the dirt. 606 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,760 I really feel like that's the way to go though, is burying it in the dirt. 607 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,760 Burying it in the dirt. 608 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:58,440 Direct bury some XLRs and you really are going the next level there. 609 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,120 Tell the nurses, hey, just go ahead and come on over and be a part of the production. 610 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,120 It's going to be great. 611 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:03,120 Just wait. 612 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,120 Or the trip. 613 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:05,600 Trip hazards. 614 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,720 But we tried this and we configured a few different switches around the buildings that 615 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,880 are on the peripheral of where they do the carnival. 616 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,640 And we got them set up with... 617 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,280 The transmitting side of it was off of one of the buildings with a mixer. 618 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,400 So they had wireless mics there and those mics worked a few feet out of the building 619 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,160 into the carnival area. 620 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,400 We would drop the signal onto the network from there and then four different locations 621 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,700 from there. 622 00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:37,400 We had speakers set up that were tapping into that signal and most of it was background 623 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,320 music but they had somebody out there playing MC for the event and announcing when the burgers 624 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,120 were ready and everything like that. 625 00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:48,000 And it worked really well to the point where they're like, we want to add another speaker 626 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,880 or can we do this here? 627 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,360 We're going to use it on opening day. 628 00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:57,560 We can put music in four different places and it just matches everywhere. 629 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:04,300 And that was kind of the impetus for rolling this out in a few different places. 630 00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:08,560 One other camp picked it up, actually two other camps picked it up and it really just 631 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:15,080 started becoming a hodgepodge of networked audio with just two channel in, two channel 632 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,080 out adapters. 633 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,080 But it worked great. 634 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,280 It was a lot of fun. 635 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,240 Plug and play essentially once they're configured and set up. 636 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,200 But mostly what you were sending is a stereo out and you were... 637 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,200 I was just doing mono. 638 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,200 Oh, okay. 639 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,200 There you go. 640 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,200 There you go. 641 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,600 The microphones are mono, the mixers had a mono out. 642 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,040 We just did mono. 643 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,040 There you go. 644 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:41,640 Now, when I first plugged these things in, not knowing anything about Dante, knowing 645 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,580 that I had to have a controller to build the matrix, because there is a software piece 646 00:27:45,580 --> 00:27:50,760 of this, you put them all in the same subnet and the software sees all of them and you 647 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,320 can name them and you can start making patch points in your matrix to connect the eyes 648 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,320 to those. 649 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,440 Were you using this on your main network or were you doing a separate... 650 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,080 We were doing it on a VLAN that we set aside for audio video things. 651 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,080 Yes, VLANs are your friend. 652 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:13,200 You may be asking, yes, self, what kind of bandwidth does this take? 653 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,880 Yes, that's exactly what I was asking, self. 654 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:22,800 Well, just like when you're recording a podcast, like we are here, you have different settings 655 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,300 in your recording, you have your bit rates, you have your sample rates, you have what 656 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:32,360 type of compression are you going to use when you store it. 657 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:34,320 They come with a lot of different options. 658 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:41,720 You can do your 44.1, the old CD sample rate, you do 48, which is pretty standard in most 659 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,520 mixing systems, but now there's a few that are up there in the 96 kilohertz range. 660 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:54,160 You take that number, let's say 48,000, 48K, 40,000, and then you take your bit depth, 661 00:28:54,160 --> 00:29:00,760 which could be anywhere from 16 to 24 to 32, multiply those two together and that is your 662 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,600 bit rate per second. 663 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,600 Nice. 664 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,400 Just did some math there. 665 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,800 That's not counting the overhead of what it takes to packetize the data and put it in 666 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,360 a frame and send it down the network using your seven layer burrito method. 667 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,360 Yes, nice. 668 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,480 Watch out for that eighth layer there. 669 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,320 It's so nice to have somebody talking to us that's been listening. 670 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,320 I'm just saying. 671 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,320 It doesn't happen very often. 672 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,320 I did like that reference. 673 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,320 Yes. 674 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,720 I don't remember if that was the name of the episode or not. 675 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,720 It was. 676 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,080 But I'm busting out the calculator here. 677 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:43,360 So you got like 48,000, let's say you do a 24 bit depth, you're looking at roughly 1.1 678 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,120 megabits, MBPS. 679 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,120 Megabits. 680 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,280 Yeah, that's not bad. 681 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,280 That's not too bad. 682 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,280 No. 683 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,800 I mean you expect it to be more than that. 684 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,960 That's all I'm saying. 685 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:54,960 And that's uncompressed. 686 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,960 Yeah. 687 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,960 That's not an MP3. 688 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,200 That's not a WAV file. 689 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,360 That's just audio over the network. 690 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,560 And all of that is configured by the controller. 691 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,560 Yes. 692 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Because it's not like, y'all can't see these adapters. 693 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,440 There's no settings on here. 694 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,320 Pictures in the show notes. 695 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,600 You're not seeing like dip switches on this bad boy. 696 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,720 No, no dip switches. 697 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,720 There's no button. 698 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,720 No knob. 699 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,720 Nothing. 700 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,720 There might be a factory reset button. 701 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,720 Maybe. 702 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,720 I don't see it. 703 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,720 Actually, I don't even see that. 704 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,720 Nope. 705 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,440 So I bet every time you pull the POE, it resets. 706 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,240 You got to stick your tongue in the cat. 707 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,240 RJ45. 708 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:37,880 Cut the network cable, twist pairs one and two together. 709 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,880 Don't do any of this. 710 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,520 It's starting to sound like an Aruba configuration cable. 711 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,400 That was good. 712 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:51,800 I actually ran 100BASE-T one time on a corporate AV project that had a POTS line. 713 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,400 I feel like you told me about that. 714 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,400 I ran a POTS line on one pair. 715 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,680 When you first came to Pine Cove. 716 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,560 A hundred megabit connection on the two other pair. 717 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,960 It was a funky cable. 718 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,080 Yeah, no. 719 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,200 We've all seen our share of funky cables. 720 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,200 The triple dongle. 721 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,200 Like, wait a minute. 722 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,200 Hey now, hey now. 723 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,320 The triple dongle was a sight to see. 724 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,320 It is a family show. 725 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:22,440 I did watch a short the other day that had people around a conference table comparing 726 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,440 dongle. 727 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,440 They had to have been Tripp and Tyler. 728 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,560 They did some great videos. 729 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,920 And then somebody walking in being like, what are you all talking about? 730 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,360 Yeah, that was a bit over the top. 731 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,600 It was pretty funny though. 732 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,200 My dongle's pretty old. 733 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,220 Lincoln the Show notes, people. 734 00:31:36,220 --> 00:31:37,400 So you plug all these things in. 735 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,400 Yeah. 736 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,920 Back to the, you plug all these things in. 737 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,920 You launch the Dante controller. 738 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,600 If you're all on the same network, everything comes up peachy. 739 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,600 Yes it does. 740 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,000 Let you know if there's firmware to update. 741 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,080 Let you click your cross points in your matrix. 742 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,760 There's this odd thing that I learned about. 743 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,560 Again, going back to when I first plugged these in. 744 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,160 I had one dongle that was two channels in. 745 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,760 And I think I had four dongles that were two channels out. 746 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,120 So I set up, I plug the first one in, plug the second one in, plug the, I get all of 747 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,120 them in there. 748 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:15,720 I see all my outs to my two ins and I hit the checkpoint on channel one to channel one. 749 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,400 Then I go to the next dongle and I go channel one to channel, it's like it won't go. 750 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,400 It wouldn't connect. 751 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,440 So I went channel one to channel two. 752 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,720 And it went, and then I would click the next one. 753 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,720 It was like, I can't do this. 754 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,040 I have no more streams available. 755 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,040 Right. 756 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,040 It had to be one to one. 757 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:38,280 Well, what I learned was that by default, the Dante audio uses a TCP, not TCP, UDP point 758 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,280 to point connection. 759 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,760 So it's like, they call it a flow. 760 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,760 Yeah. 761 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,400 You are doing this one channel to that one channel. 762 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,040 Which is great on the network as far as what the switch has to handle and do. 763 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,440 But I couldn't get that one signal to more than two dongles. 764 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,440 Right. 765 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,480 Well, there is another setting in here that allows you to set up what they call multicast 766 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,480 flows. 767 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,480 Okay. 768 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,080 So then, so then what happens is your transmitter becomes a giant broadcaster. 769 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,080 Yeah. 770 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:13,640 And it starts hitting everything, everything on the VLAN, which again is only 1.1 MBPS, 771 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,320 but is, is still like, that's a lot. 772 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:23,880 But if you're, if your VLAN crosses, I don't know, 15, 20 switches, all of those trunks 773 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,920 between those switches are seeing that traffic. 774 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,920 And they're blasting that out on any port that's on that VLAN. 775 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,920 Hold on. 776 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:32,920 Let me think this through. 777 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,960 It goes, it goes from the stage. 778 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,680 No, no, I would, I would come out of the, I would come out of the booth. 779 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,280 So it's going, and we would have to do the lower, no, because both of the boards are 780 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:53,000 plugged into the lower booth, but we're going through one switch, two switch, three switch, 781 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,080 just to get to the grade school building. 782 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,080 Yes. 783 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,360 And then, yeah. 784 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,760 Now over the trunk, that really might not be that bad. 785 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:03,760 Right. 786 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,760 And if you only have a few ports on that VLAN, they're the only ones that are going to see 787 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,760 it. 788 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,760 Yeah. 789 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,560 Well, here's, here's where I'm still learning and trying to understand things. 790 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,980 And this is, this is where ubiquity would come in really handy. 791 00:34:14,980 --> 00:34:16,840 Let's bring Chris into the mix here. 792 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,840 Okay. 793 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:18,840 IGMP snooping. 794 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,440 Let's say you. 795 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,240 It can be a benefit depending on what you're trying to do. 796 00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:27,360 So hose your system. 797 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,360 Well, nevermind. 798 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,800 I just, I'm going to stay out of it. 799 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,000 You talk. 800 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:40,200 I can tell you that I have it personally, I have it turned off at home. 801 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,920 Yep. 802 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:48,040 So if you're having, I have seen cases where I've had trouble on a particular VLAN, not 803 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,600 seeing a given device. 804 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,160 I've turned it on and it seems like it's made some, some help there. 805 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,160 Okay. 806 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,480 But I generally, I keep it off. 807 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:04,840 So the way Audinate or Dante teaches IGMP snooping in the world of broadcast streaming 808 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:12,320 audio is that if, if all of your switches in the chain can do snooping. 809 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,480 And I think there is a, one switch has to be the host of something and I'm, the word 810 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,000 is escaping me. 811 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,160 But it keeps kind of a directory of all of the devices that subscribe to a multicast 812 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,640 broadcast. 813 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:34,680 So what happens with IGMP snooping on is it limits where the broadcast goes on the ports 814 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,000 on that switch. 815 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000 Correct. 816 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,840 Even if it's on the same VLAN, if the device on that VLAN isn't asking for the stream, 817 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,800 the switch won't send it down that wire. 818 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,040 That's nice. 819 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,840 So that's a way to kind of clean up, especially if you have a large VLAN and a lot of devices 820 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:54,040 in the VLAN aren't a part of the multicast piece, IGMP snooping, which I think would 821 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,040 be the devices. 822 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,800 I mean, that's the majority of, I'm sorry. 823 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:03,120 I don't know that, but it seems like for those of us that this isn't the thing that we're 824 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,720 doing, we're not, we're not dedicating hardware to this. 825 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,280 And that's what I was actually afraid of. 826 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,480 To tell you the truth, part of what I was nervous about was in like, you can read all 827 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,800 this, but then you don't know until you have actually seen somebody put this into practice 828 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,680 exactly how much of this you're running into. 829 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,720 You know, you don't, you can read all day long and they can make claims about this and 830 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:31,840 that or whatever, but until you actually see like, no, it really isn't going to affect 831 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,900 the rest of your network. 832 00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:39,200 If you separate it, you know, do your due diligence and separate everything the way 833 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,840 that you're supposed to. 834 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,720 Like you sure hope so, but yeah. 835 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:49,040 And to be clear, what IGMP is technically doing behind the scenes, it's almost as if 836 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,520 the devices share the same IP address. 837 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,780 So that way they can get the messaging. 838 00:36:55,780 --> 00:36:57,560 That's essentially what's happening. 839 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,980 They're up there in the 255 address range dedicated for broadcasting. 840 00:37:02,980 --> 00:37:05,680 It's called an IGMP querier. 841 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,680 So you can have a... 842 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,680 Sounds fancy. 843 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,680 Querier. 844 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,960 I don't know if British is what it sounds. 845 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,480 I don't know if I trust that. 846 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,480 It doesn't have the British U in it. 847 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,480 Freaking red coast. 848 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,480 Oh nice. 849 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,480 I like that. 850 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,480 That was good. 851 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,480 Or parlour. 852 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,480 In America, we would drop one of these. 853 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,480 Saviour. 854 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,600 Well, so we dropped the British U in a lot of words, just not glamour. 855 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,600 Just not glamour. 856 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,600 That's correct. 857 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,600 Yeah, that's weird. 858 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,600 I mean, sure. 859 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,600 It's time. 860 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,600 Oh no, what is this one? 861 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,600 Number two. 862 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,600 This is the extra style. 863 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,240 This is the OG. 864 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:43,160 He is going to his Guinness. 865 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,360 This is the granddaddy of all. 866 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,520 Later, I'll explain why I have this. 867 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,520 So I... 868 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,520 Later you're going to explain. 869 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,520 Okay. 870 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,520 Yes. 871 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,000 So I had set up, going back a little bit to my, a little bit of my experience in this, 872 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:05,000 that camp that was using it for Carnival, we deployed the sound box. 873 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,080 We deployed the sound box speakers, org wide this last spring. 874 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,520 And that kind of took away the need for this networked audio because they have a different 875 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,600 wireless protocol that does essentially the same thing in a smaller footprint. 876 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,600 It works out well for them. 877 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,000 So we were able to pull the Dante piece out of that camp and it actually saved them a 878 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,840 lot of set up and tear down time. 879 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,400 Chris is getting weird over there with his beer. 880 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,080 I don't know, man. 881 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,720 He's pretending it's a pillow or something. 882 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,120 All will be explained later. 883 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,120 Caressing the bottle. 884 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,120 Okay. 885 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,480 We'll just keep moving. 886 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,480 It's fine. 887 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,560 Well, so... 888 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,320 So they're using sound box instead of this, Dante. 889 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,320 Correct. 890 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,320 Yes. 891 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,040 That's interesting to me because the Dante can go much further than the sound box can. 892 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,040 On a wire. 893 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,040 Yeah. 894 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,520 Dante will not do wifi. 895 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,520 Yeah. 896 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,520 No, that's important to know. 897 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,380 That's because of broadcast bits and pieces, I think. 898 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:01,720 Even if the SSID is on that same VLAN? 899 00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:03,320 Oh, we should do some testing, Chris. 900 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,320 Oh. 901 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,320 Because I'm sitting here going... 902 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,320 Now we're talking. 903 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,320 No, I mean, you would have to... 904 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,800 They claim it does not. 905 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,360 You would have to have a receiver for it. 906 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,400 I would love to know... 907 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,000 This is not a wireless receiver. 908 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,600 Well, no, but if it hits... 909 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,600 A wireless bridge is different. 910 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,520 A wireless bridge on the other end. 911 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,240 And then radios down to it? 912 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:22,240 Or not radios down? 913 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:23,240 Yeah, and then hands off ethernet. 914 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:24,240 Ethernet's down. 915 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:25,240 A true test. 916 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:26,240 Challenge accepted. 917 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:27,240 Challenge accepted. 918 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,880 Chris is like, bull crap, I can make it wireless. 919 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,880 Yes. 920 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,880 Yeah. 921 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,680 I don't know, I think you would have to get the software license on one of the computers 922 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,680 and try it over Wi-Fi. 923 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,680 But... 924 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,880 Okay, okay, okay. 925 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,240 Challenge accepted. 926 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:43,240 Now he's thinking. 927 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:44,240 You got him thinking. 928 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:45,240 I like it when you make him think. 929 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:47,240 Yeah, you gotta do that sometimes. 930 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:48,240 Yeah. 931 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:49,680 I'm like, Chris, whatever you come up with, that's fine. 932 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,440 I took all these dongles out of circulation and they sat in a drawer for a little while. 933 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,620 Yeah, that's hard, man. 934 00:39:54,620 --> 00:39:55,620 And I was plugging them in. 935 00:39:55,620 --> 00:39:57,120 It's hard to be a retired dongle. 936 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,120 It is. 937 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,120 It is. 938 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,120 I just can't. 939 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,120 You can't look over there. 940 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,120 He's 13 years old, it's fine. 941 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:08,280 So they sat in a drawer for a while and when I plugged them back in a few weeks ago, I 942 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,400 was like, I static IP address these things. 943 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,400 And I don't remember... 944 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,400 Which ones? 945 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,400 I think they were on a specific... 946 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,400 The beard kicking in. 947 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,400 Maybe. 948 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,400 It's warm in here in my opinion. 949 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,400 Oh yeah, it is. 950 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,400 Hold on. 951 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,440 Do you guys talk amongst yourselves? 952 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,440 Talk amongst yourselves. 953 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,200 So I'm plugging these things in and I'm like, there's no factor reset button. 954 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:36,360 I don't think I realized that at the time, but I plugged them in anyway and I knew it 955 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,640 wasn't... 956 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:43,160 I had no switch ports in the office that were on the AVVLAN, so I knew the IP of the device 957 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,160 wasn't going to match. 958 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,160 That's a bad IT guy. 959 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,160 I know, right? 960 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,160 You better fire him. 961 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,160 You better put a... 962 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,960 So I plugged it in. 963 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,960 He's an AV guy. 964 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,280 I plugged it into the office VLAN and my computer was on the office VLAN and I launched the 965 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,280 Dante controller. 966 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,500 So I have the device and the controller on the same VLANs and all of a sudden a message 967 00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:07,080 pops up in the controller and it says, there's a device on this subnet that isn't properly 968 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,080 configured. 969 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,280 Would you like to reset it? 970 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,280 Yes please. 971 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,840 And it gives me the IP address of the device. 972 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,840 I'm sorry, my mouth is on the ground right now. 973 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,840 I was dumbfounded by that. 974 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,840 Like that is amazing. 975 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,680 I was like, how are they talking to each other? 976 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,900 Even on the same network. 977 00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:23,600 It's basic discovery. 978 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,600 It probably is. 979 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,240 Listen, don't rain on this parade for me. 980 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:30,800 I gotta pull back the curtain. 981 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,800 No, like, okay. 982 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,040 Yes, I get it. 983 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,040 You're smarter than us. 984 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,240 But like, this is like when... 985 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:38,840 Y'all know Stephen Myers. 986 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,120 We got a Gobo for the... 987 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,840 You're talking the A size one that I can't find any lights for? 988 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,840 That one. 989 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:46,840 Okay. 990 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,300 So we bought that thing and we were like, this is going to be awesome. 991 00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:52,880 We're going to put it on the... 992 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,360 We bought two of them and we're going to put them on the lights in Cowan and then we're 993 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,720 going to show them on the walls or on the ground or something. 994 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:04,800 And it's going to be awesome because there's going to be a big pine cone on everything. 995 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,000 And sure enough, we did that. 996 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,920 And like Snoop was a part of like, Stephen was a part of like figuring out, like saying 997 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,440 like, oh, we should do this and everything like that. 998 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,120 And I think there was some general excitement about it. 999 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,140 But on that day, like he's in go mode. 1000 00:42:19,140 --> 00:42:21,080 And so we're like, hey Snoop, Lucas, it's Gobo. 1001 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,080 And he's like, yeah. 1002 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,400 I was like, excuse me. 1003 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,200 Like we've, we are celebrating a victory over here. 1004 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,200 My first step. 1005 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,360 And he's like, we have made fire. 1006 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,360 We have made fire. 1007 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,640 And he's like, that's what it's supposed to look like. 1008 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,640 This is not a party. 1009 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,640 I was like, oh my gosh. 1010 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,640 Yeah. 1011 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,520 And the projectors are supposed to work too, but they're not. 1012 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,520 They're not. 1013 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,520 Thanks, Ford. 1014 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,520 Oh man. 1015 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,920 Or they show up late. 1016 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,920 That was my first experience. 1017 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,920 The truck broke down. 1018 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,920 They're not here. 1019 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:50,920 No, it's fine. 1020 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,560 I'm not going to bad mouth. 1021 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,800 But anyway, I was really surprised that they even saw each other. 1022 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,360 But evidently it's not a big deal. 1023 00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,960 Well, it does multicast, right? 1024 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:01,240 It does broadcast stuff. 1025 00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:03,720 It should just throw its name out there. 1026 00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,120 I'm going to throw this recipe at you. 1027 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,520 It's the same essential concept of your phone discovering. 1028 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,000 Oh, John's making weird gestures. 1029 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,000 I bet you would like this. 1030 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,000 Yes, I would like it. 1031 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,000 Yeah. 1032 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,000 Can I have that mistreating? 1033 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,400 Can I have your F bomb? 1034 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,400 It's around here somewhere. 1035 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,400 I'm going to make it work. 1036 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,160 If you can open any beer, it's going to be this Rasputin. 1037 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,600 I'll have to figure out a link in the show notes for that reference. 1038 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,600 Yeah, sorry. 1039 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,600 You can just take a picture of it and throw it. 1040 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,600 It's going to be great. 1041 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,600 Oh man. 1042 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,360 But no, I've been impressed with it so far. 1043 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:42,440 We have been playing with, I don't know if anybody out there is familiar with the Q-Sys. 1044 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,440 Watch the face. 1045 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,440 Systems. 1046 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,440 There it is. 1047 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,440 Careful. 1048 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:54,960 It's just, it's a little bit like anytime this, no, it's not even bitter to me. 1049 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,760 It's flowery. 1050 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,560 It's like somebody sprayed. 1051 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,200 So it tastes like bread? 1052 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,200 Perfume in it. 1053 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,200 No, or like soap. 1054 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,200 So it tastes like soap to me. 1055 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,480 This is what I tell like potpourri. 1056 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,480 Paul all the time. 1057 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,160 I'm like, no, oh, oh, oh. 1058 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,160 One man's garbage and another man's potpourri. 1059 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,040 Yeah, no, that's disgusting. 1060 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,040 Don't you my yum? 1061 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,800 Is that what they say? 1062 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,120 I'm afraid I didn't get flowery in mine. 1063 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,600 It was just bitter. 1064 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,240 Yeah, I don't, I think, but that's what I think. 1065 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:28,360 Like when other people say bitter, that's what I actually taste is some sort of flower. 1066 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,240 It tastes like I'm chewing on a flower. 1067 00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:33,400 Are you eating flowers when you go home? 1068 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,400 No. 1069 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,400 I mean, maybe. 1070 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:41,400 I heard somebody, the old, the old joke years ago when potpourri was a big thing. 1071 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,320 They're like, this trail mix is awful. 1072 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,480 Oh man, this trail mix is awful. 1073 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,040 No, I agree with that. 1074 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,960 That trail mix is awful. 1075 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,960 Yes. 1076 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:51,960 Bad Rasputin. 1077 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,960 You bought it. 1078 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,960 I did. 1079 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,960 And you must finish it. 1080 00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:01,200 I will, but like, it's like glad the impaler over here. 1081 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,880 Oh man. 1082 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,760 Anyway, so sorry. 1083 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,880 I'm kind of lost on the train here. 1084 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,360 Yeah, we keep rather trailing. 1085 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,120 I'm still on the train, so that's a good thing. 1086 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,360 Yeah, no, absolutely. 1087 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,360 Basic discovery. 1088 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,360 That's where you were. 1089 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,040 Well, that was just, I was impressed by that. 1090 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,160 It helped. 1091 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,160 It helped. 1092 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:27,740 You're amazed, but really, if we could put a word on this, it is basic. 1093 00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:28,740 Basic discovery. 1094 00:45:28,740 --> 00:45:29,740 Okay. 1095 00:45:29,740 --> 00:45:32,320 But for audio guys, this is amazing. 1096 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,320 Amazing. 1097 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,720 So, but like, here's my, like, I love this idea. 1098 00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:44,600 I love the idea of being able to go, yeah, and you've got the USB-C dongle. 1099 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,520 For those who don't want to pay for the software license for your computer, but you still need 1100 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,520 a network drop. 1101 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,520 Yeah. 1102 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,520 That's a great idea. 1103 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,520 USB-C works around the license? 1104 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,880 Well, this dongle is licensed. 1105 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,720 Yeah, it's, you bought the dongle. 1106 00:45:58,720 --> 00:45:59,720 You bought the dongle. 1107 00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:02,640 It's two in, two out in one dongle. 1108 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:03,640 Intriguing. 1109 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:09,280 And since these are only two channel or four channel devices, these are only a hundred 1110 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,520 megabit ports, but they're only ever taking in two or four streams. 1111 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,200 That's like, so 1.1 a piece-ish. 1112 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,240 They clipped it. 1113 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:21,240 Huh? 1114 00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:22,520 They clipped it. 1115 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,560 They clipped it. 1116 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,560 Snip. 1117 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,560 Anyway. 1118 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,560 Anyway. 1119 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,480 So, there's a lot of different use cases for it. 1120 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,480 Yeah. 1121 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,840 I was starting to go down the path of Q-SYS. 1122 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,840 Yeah. 1123 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:35,840 Yes. 1124 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:43,960 So here's an example of an audio DSP or processor that has variable-configurated ins and outs. 1125 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:50,080 And most of their, at least the stuff I've been dealing with, comes with an 8x8 Dante 1126 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,280 license for the purchase of the hardware. 1127 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,280 Wow. 1128 00:46:54,280 --> 00:47:00,200 Now, I could pay them a licensing fee and they would unlock the other 24 channels giving 1129 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,880 me 32 I.O. just in Dante alone. 1130 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,880 Through that speaker. 1131 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:05,880 Through that, well, through that processor. 1132 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,880 Whoa, whatever. 1133 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,880 Processor. 1134 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:08,880 Yeah. 1135 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,200 So that's been, it's been kind of fun to tinker with that a little bit. 1136 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:16,520 Well, I went to a, that was, so what kind of started me down this path was actually 1137 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,520 going to a... 1138 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,520 Was it the conference? 1139 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:24,520 It was WFX and going into that Q-SYS like, not display. 1140 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,800 I listened to that episode. 1141 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,200 Yeah, of course you did. 1142 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:37,360 But like, going into that demonstration of their stuff and I was like, I mean, this idea 1143 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,080 is incredible. 1144 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:45,560 This is the wrong room for you to show off these speakers because it was horrible. 1145 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,040 Were they Dante enabled speakers? 1146 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,480 Yeah, they were interesting. 1147 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,120 And that's what I was like, okay, like that, like that really messes with me on some levels 1148 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:58,680 because they were talking about like, not just the Dante integration, but how like they're, 1149 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:04,160 the speakers are communicating with each other about even tilt levels and stuff like that. 1150 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:12,200 And really like them being able to auto configure to not have dead zones in there, you know, 1151 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,760 not to have a phase cancellation inside of it. 1152 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:15,760 Phase cancellation. 1153 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,160 What they're sending out. 1154 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,400 And I was like, oh, like, hold on. 1155 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,400 Like, I just need, you guys did a lot of math on the backend and now I'm trying to figure 1156 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,600 out like, if that's actually possible, I just need a minute. 1157 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,160 And if you want to hear what John's talking about. 1158 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,720 All right, my brain hurts. 1159 00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:34,320 John episode number five. 1160 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,320 Yeah. 1161 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,320 Yes, your speakers are working. 1162 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,120 Yes, your speakers are working. 1163 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,640 Still to this day, the most popular episode. 1164 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:41,640 Yep. 1165 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,640 Way to go, John. 1166 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,120 I don't know that I had anything to do with that, but it was mostly me saying. 1167 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,440 It was your report on the conference. 1168 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,440 RCF is amazing. 1169 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,440 RCF is pretty good. 1170 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,120 I mean, there were a bunch, they were, they were really nice and it was really amazing 1171 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,440 to listen to all these high end speakers and be like, wow, there really is very, like they 1172 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:02,200 all have very distinct sounds, but not, not a single one of these would you listen to 1173 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,200 and be like, yeah, that's crap. 1174 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:11,000 Except for when they put us right in front of the QSCs and we're like, loud. 1175 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:17,080 I was going like, okay, these need to be not right in front of my face. 1176 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,520 Like when I was just so much. 1177 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:27,560 When I first started in audio and video stuff professionally, way back, way back, way back 1178 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,040 in the two triple zeros. 1179 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,160 Oh my gosh. 1180 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:38,480 The place I was working for had acronyms for a lot of the two triple, had acronyms for 1181 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:44,120 a lot of the different sound companies and they would refer to JBL as just bloody loud. 1182 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,120 Just bloody loud. 1183 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,120 They're not the best speaker out there, but they're loud. 1184 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,120 They are. 1185 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,120 And sometimes it's what you want. 1186 00:49:52,120 --> 00:50:01,960 It's like when MKBHD does his camera, like phone camera side by side, turns out mostly 1187 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,720 what people like vote for in a phone camera side by side is the brightest picture. 1188 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:07,720 Yep. 1189 00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:08,720 Interesting. 1190 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:12,800 Like, I'm not saying that that's the best picture because there's all kinds of things 1191 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,300 that can go into that. 1192 00:50:14,300 --> 00:50:19,760 But if they're just doing like a quick not pixel like peeping, like not whatever, just 1193 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,640 looking at two pictures side by side, usually it's the brighter picture that's going to 1194 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,640 win. 1195 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:25,640 That is crazy. 1196 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,160 There's some psychology there. 1197 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,160 I think so. 1198 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,160 There is. 1199 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:34,520 I know that when you're designing a theater or a video space, as far as conferencing and 1200 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:40,680 viewing goes, there are some calculations that an engineer or designer would run that 1201 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:48,040 have to do with how something bright in the room is almost an unavoidable distraction. 1202 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,480 Like if you're looking at a screen and there's something over here that's a certain luminescence 1203 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,360 brighter than what you're looking at, it will draw your attention. 1204 00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,120 I'm just saying we've got two enormous windows in our great room. 1205 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:07,040 And so we had to do a lot of work to make the stage brighter and got a lot of pushback 1206 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,480 on how many lights we put in. 1207 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:14,840 And it was like, well, this has to be brighter because that's pretty bright. 1208 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,840 Or you're going to squirrel. 1209 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,840 Yeah. 1210 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:17,840 I mean, oh, wow. 1211 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:18,840 Squirrel. 1212 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:19,840 Keep the shades down. 1213 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,680 Yeah, no, they can't do that. 1214 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,320 It's everybody's favorite part of the worship service. 1215 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,320 Anyway. 1216 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:34,320 Now, one of the things somebody in the audience right now is going, what about latency? 1217 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,600 That's exactly what we were all thinking. 1218 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,560 Tell me about what latency. 1219 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,680 I just was like, man, I got to talk about that. 1220 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,680 But I forgot until now. 1221 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,040 If I was listening, I probably would have been saying that. 1222 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,040 What about latency? 1223 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,320 Dante is great, I feel. 1224 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,080 Some people could probably argue it with me. 1225 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,040 I'm no expert here. 1226 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,440 But they some challenge accepted. 1227 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,760 Oh, no, here we go. 1228 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,200 So I have a debate partner. 1229 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,200 I have nothing. 1230 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,200 Okay. 1231 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:12,920 So the latency between certain devices is set to five milliseconds. 1232 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,320 Okay. 1233 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,320 Which is quite fast. 1234 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,120 Yeah, that's really fast. 1235 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,360 Through the Dante training that I did. 1236 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,920 That's like right at the end perceptible. 1237 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,920 Yeah. 1238 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,320 Well, they would say if you were a drummer and your microphone was catching the audio, 1239 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,760 putting it on to Dante, receiving it at your headphone amplifier and sending it to your 1240 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,760 ears, Dante would probably beat the audio to your ears than just acoustically traveling 1241 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,640 the six, five or six feet from the kick drum up to your head. 1242 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,640 Most impressive. 1243 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,000 I mean, that's like right at a second a foot. 1244 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,480 Yeah, it's like that. 1245 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,360 So I'm like, I don't think it's five feet from your kick drum to your head. 1246 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,360 No. 1247 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:50,360 If you're playing standing up. 1248 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,440 I just, I'm going to go ahead and call bull on that. 1249 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,160 But it is really fast. 1250 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,160 It's really fast. 1251 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,160 And there are certain. 1252 00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,160 It is imperceptible fast. 1253 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,160 There are differences. 1254 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,720 That is ridiculous. 1255 00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:07,880 There are certain devices within the Dante lineup that can come down to one millisecond, 1256 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,120 which is kind of crazy. 1257 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,360 I can't imagine. 1258 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,120 I can't imagine you can go a switch hop at that rate. 1259 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,960 No, so, but you wouldn't need to, because if you're going to switch hop, that means 1260 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,300 you're covering a pretty significant distance. 1261 00:53:21,300 --> 00:53:23,240 Or you just needed way more ports. 1262 00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:26,560 You gotta switch at this stage. 1263 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,560 I'm trying to. 1264 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,740 Yeah, I'm trying to like, that's a switch hop. 1265 00:53:28,740 --> 00:53:29,740 That is a switch hop. 1266 00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:30,740 Right. 1267 00:53:30,740 --> 00:53:31,740 But anyway. 1268 00:53:31,740 --> 00:53:32,740 Yeah. 1269 00:53:32,740 --> 00:53:38,040 So, but everything, if everything is going through that switch hop, then it is really 1270 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,040 hard to tell the difference. 1271 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,480 Man, that's something to think about. 1272 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,480 Stay on the switch. 1273 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:51,720 I can tell you that they allow you to build in latency in the signal path with the controller. 1274 00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:56,500 So you could say, Hey, I want all of my devices run in a 10 millisecond latency. 1275 00:53:56,500 --> 00:54:01,560 And what happens is, with the way they run their clock on the network, even if it's there 1276 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,560 early, it'll wait. 1277 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:08,200 It'll wait so that it hits the 10 millisecond latency so that everything lines up. 1278 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:14,660 So they're, they boast a fairly, I don't know the proper word, time synchronized audio across 1279 00:54:14,660 --> 00:54:15,660 multiple channels. 1280 00:54:15,660 --> 00:54:16,660 Yeah. 1281 00:54:16,660 --> 00:54:20,520 It is, I mean, it is important to notice though, like if you are doing what you said at the 1282 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:28,240 beginning with, with trying to send something across multiple buildings and stuff like that, 1283 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:30,720 like there, there is a certain amount of latency. 1284 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:36,200 If it's outdoors, especially if you can hear the original signal from where the delay is 1285 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:43,160 coming from, or if you can hear the original signal next to the speaker that is also sending, 1286 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,520 you are going to hear that speaker and then you're going to hear the original sound and 1287 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,000 it's going to sound like that. 1288 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:54,040 Like that, Oh gosh, like I'm hearing two of everything. 1289 00:54:54,040 --> 00:55:02,840 So that's why you would delay the far side to match the, you would, you would delay from 1290 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:09,000 the source, you would delay the far side to match the near side, reaching the far side. 1291 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,760 Does that make sense? 1292 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:15,360 I think the way you're, I can tell you that in one situation where I have it, if you know 1293 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:20,800 where the hearing throughout the towers camp, the basketball court that was way in the back, 1294 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,640 there's speakers on the patio of that right now. 1295 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,260 You can hear those speakers where the old Tom Tom current office is. 1296 00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:32,600 And then if you come further down towards the entrance of camp, before I added delay 1297 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:38,880 to the office, which is the speakers closest to me, I would get a slap from the, I would 1298 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,960 hear the office and then I would hear the gym, the office and hear the gym. 1299 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:42,960 Yeah. 1300 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:48,880 So I would delay the office so that it lined up to the, so that it lines up with the child 1301 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:55,880 audio when the whatever is closest to you has to be delayed to hear the farther away, 1302 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,520 which again messes with you. 1303 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:02,080 If you then go the other direction, I'm not going into that. 1304 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,120 You hang in with us, Chris hanging in there. 1305 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,440 I feel like you're calling me delayed the house. 1306 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:08,440 I am not. 1307 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,440 Yeah. 1308 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,440 How's the Guinness over there? 1309 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,200 The Guinness is quite good. 1310 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:18,720 It's you can, I think you can figure it, configure it all the way out to, I want to say 50 milliseconds. 1311 00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:19,960 You can get out that far. 1312 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:20,960 Dang. 1313 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,480 And I, I don't know that you would ever use that in a live audio application. 1314 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,960 No, I don't know why you would do 50 milliseconds. 1315 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,680 But I could see that in a distributed audio setup. 1316 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,820 Like if you were like here, you've got three buildings on the same campus. 1317 00:56:33,820 --> 00:56:38,120 Like if you wanted to put all of them to 50 and then they all come out at 50, that would 1318 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,920 build in some, uh, the buffer, 1319 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,560 the ability to be a little late on a packet exchange and still get it out on time. 1320 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,960 I mean, this is the whole, like we use Rezzy for our live stream. 1321 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,760 They, they, they have a built in minute and 30 second delay so that if there's packet 1322 00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,440 loss, they can go back and not miss anything, not miss anything. 1323 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,440 Yeah. 1324 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,440 It's really nice. 1325 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,240 And they love when there's a problem. 1326 00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:06,240 Yeah, they sure do. 1327 00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:07,240 It's also a good thing. 1328 00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:08,240 It is. 1329 00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,840 Hey, uh, you don't have, except for that one time that. 1330 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,920 They just didn't turn on the encoder. 1331 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:14,920 Nevermind. 1332 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:20,640 There's some, there's some things that you just can't like, I don't know. 1333 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:21,640 I don't know. 1334 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,640 Maybe you can. 1335 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:23,640 I'm just bad at this. 1336 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:24,640 I guess. 1337 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,640 It's a layer eight problem. 1338 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,680 It is a layer eight problem for sure. 1339 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:32,600 I feel like one of the most common use cases for Dante though is a snake splitting. 1340 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,600 Yeah. 1341 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,620 Probably the most common use case. 1342 00:57:35,620 --> 00:57:36,620 Which is a big deal. 1343 00:57:36,620 --> 00:57:44,240 I mean, you remember, you remember for sure the, you know, snake splits that are hardware 1344 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,440 transformer isolated. 1345 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:54,000 I mean those things were, I mean, when you used to have to carry the snakes on your shoulder 1346 00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:00,680 because they were that many channels and the cables are like that big, you're, you're winding 1347 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:07,000 them like you do a pool vacuum, like coil. 1348 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,880 When they get that big, I just, I just squat down on the floor and I do it up on the floor. 1349 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:12,880 Yeah. 1350 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:13,880 Yeah. 1351 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:14,880 He even it over. 1352 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,920 I mean, there's nothing else to do, but that's that's old school problems. 1353 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,920 Now we got cat five. 1354 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,160 We can just put that over your elbow. 1355 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,160 Sorry. 1356 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:29,040 Cat six, six, eight, cat six, eight, and just throw it over your elbow and go to town. 1357 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,040 Right. 1358 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,640 You know, they make fiber. 1359 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:32,640 Yeah. 1360 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:33,640 Tactical fiber. 1361 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,400 Ooh, yes. 1362 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,840 That feels like I should be making body armor out of it. 1363 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,840 I don't think it would work very well. 1364 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:42,840 Is that no? 1365 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:43,840 Yeah. 1366 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:44,840 Don't do that. 1367 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,760 It'll survive somebody stepping on it. 1368 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,760 That's important. 1369 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:48,760 I think they drew a truck over it. 1370 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,120 They did on gravel. 1371 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:56,240 But what happens if they put it, what happens if they put a backhoe like shovel? 1372 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,040 Backhoe wins every time. 1373 00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,040 Every time. 1374 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,720 It doesn't even have to be sharpened. 1375 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,720 No, no, it doesn't. 1376 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:02,720 Or new. 1377 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,720 Just big. 1378 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,720 Hydraulic pressure. 1379 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:07,720 Hydraulic pressurized. 1380 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:08,720 It's gonna gonna happen. 1381 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:09,720 Oh my gosh. 1382 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,320 But yeah, there's yeah, it's been fun. 1383 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,320 It's been fun to play with it. 1384 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,720 It's been fun to come up with use cases for it. 1385 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,640 Yeah, I can't wait. 1386 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:25,120 They're definitely like that's I mean, I think I think all of us have a little bit of that 1387 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,940 itch to like try the thing. 1388 00:59:26,940 --> 00:59:29,200 We just want to try the thing. 1389 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,640 We just want to see like what what what can I what problem can I solve with this? 1390 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,280 You know what I mean? 1391 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,360 It's another tool in the tool. 1392 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:37,360 It's another tool in the tool. 1393 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,720 Like I would love to solve a problem with this. 1394 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,780 That would be so much fun. 1395 00:59:41,780 --> 00:59:46,360 But knowing that solutions limitations is really important inside of that. 1396 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:52,200 Because there's some some places that are talking about using Dante for like their entire, 1397 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,820 you know, front of house setup. 1398 00:59:54,820 --> 01:00:00,160 And I'm like, I just it's still in that Wi Fi category to me where it's like I don't 1399 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:01,800 I understand that it works. 1400 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:07,600 And there's a certain level where I'm okay with like this living here. 1401 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,880 But I still want to cable for some things. 1402 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,880 You know what I mean? 1403 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,440 So you're saying instead of any XLR, they're just doing straight up Dante. 1404 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,880 Yeah, with all cat cable. 1405 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:20,880 Yeah. 1406 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:21,880 Interesting. 1407 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,760 And they're going to they're going to their front of house and they're going to their 1408 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,760 live stream with it. 1409 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:28,760 Wow. 1410 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,240 I see a lot of places that are using it for mission critical pieces. 1411 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,600 They're doing it on an isolated network. 1412 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,120 They're not trying to be land that on some other now they have they have switches that 1413 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,120 are totally Yes. 1414 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,160 That's what they're for. 1415 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,440 And then in the very mission critical side of things, they'll run to isolated networks 1416 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,280 because a lot of the professional Dante cards have a primary secondary. 1417 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:53,120 And that's what I'm seeing is a lot of like there's what it is providing is redundancy 1418 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,120 that they wouldn't have over other stuff. 1419 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,500 And like, I get that. 1420 01:00:57,500 --> 01:01:00,040 But you've got to like go there. 1421 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,040 You know what I mean? 1422 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,320 Like you can't half ass that solution. 1423 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,080 Like you've got a whole ass that solution. 1424 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,080 Thank you, Ron. 1425 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,080 I appreciate it. 1426 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,400 Don't half ass two jobs. 1427 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,800 Whole ass one job. 1428 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,640 Man oh man. 1429 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,640 It's real. 1430 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:19,640 Yeah, yeah. 1431 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,360 But that's Yeah, I've got the seed man in my head. 1432 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,360 He said it. 1433 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,440 The seed man. 1434 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:26,440 It's real. 1435 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:27,440 It's real. 1436 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,440 There it is. 1437 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:31,840 Just an arbitrary scream. 1438 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,840 Yes. 1439 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,480 For no particular reason. 1440 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,200 Alex Jones is good for fun. 1441 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,200 Don't take him seriously. 1442 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:46,640 On a side note, Dante Dante does training online that it currently is free. 1443 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,300 I like free free. 1444 01:01:48,300 --> 01:01:49,600 It's kind of a video based training. 1445 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,560 The guy is a little not hard to listen to. 1446 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,680 But his cadence is very intriguing. 1447 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,880 What would they what would they be if they weren't right? 1448 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,480 A training video. 1449 01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,760 And then they take you do tests. 1450 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,760 If anybody out there is Dante certification program. 1451 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:12,600 If anybody out there is CTS or any of the AVIXA AVIXA, CTS, CTSD, CSI, or maybe just 1452 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,600 CTS. 1453 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,400 But it stands for certified technology specialist. 1454 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:23,280 The Dante training does count as renewal credits towards your continuing education. 1455 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,760 This is Dante mastery certification. 1456 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,040 And now I have a new goal. 1457 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,280 One thing I learned when I started the Dante training. 1458 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,480 They're doing video now. 1459 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,480 Dante video. 1460 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,680 Yes, you blew my mind with that not too long ago. 1461 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:39,680 Like road doing video. 1462 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,120 You got Dante doing video. 1463 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:49,280 Which I mean, it's not again, you're like, hey, it's not a big leap. 1464 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,000 I was talking to Chad about this. 1465 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:57,320 Chad Larson about this, this morning, actually, the whole like, you got road going from, oh, 1466 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:58,320 we're making microphones. 1467 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,920 Oh, we're making audio interfaces. 1468 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,680 Oh, we're making a video interface. 1469 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,480 And it's like, oh, that makes sense. 1470 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,120 As opposed to Yamaha. 1471 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,460 Well, they make motorcycles. 1472 01:03:08,460 --> 01:03:11,000 That it's like, oh, we make motorcycles. 1473 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,000 And trumpets. 1474 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,000 And piano. 1475 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,400 And pianos and mixers and speakers. 1476 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,400 Like what? 1477 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,600 It's the Swiss army. 1478 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,560 What redheaded nephew. 1479 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:24,880 There's no redheads in Japan. 1480 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:25,880 Oh, that's true. 1481 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:26,880 Nevermind. 1482 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,880 I shouldn't say that. 1483 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:29,880 It's a very general statement. 1484 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,800 It might be that was ignorant. 1485 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:38,480 But I mean, seriously, it seems like all of a sudden, like if Yamaha was Walmart, they 1486 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,320 just, they got into everything all of a sudden. 1487 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,440 I don't know how that happened, but it's like, you know what? 1488 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:48,840 We need to be able to make motorcycles and pianos is really important. 1489 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:53,440 And we got to be able to play them while riding while riding. 1490 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,560 That's some Schroeder stuff right there. 1491 01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:01,400 Anyway, Schroeder, liking that reference. 1492 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:06,680 You got a, I got a couple of things, a couple of things. 1493 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,480 I guess we'll go with a new one. 1494 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:18,280 For tonight, I'm going to call it the bearing gear drunk tank drum tank drunk drunk tank. 1495 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,480 I was like drum tank. 1496 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:20,480 I've never heard of that. 1497 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,480 I got to get the mic for that drum. 1498 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:23,480 Yeah. 1499 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,600 Regretfully have to do a retraction slash correction. 1500 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:28,600 Okay. 1501 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:29,600 But you weren't drunk. 1502 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:30,600 No, I wouldn't draw. 1503 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:31,600 Was it the triple mash? 1504 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,640 No, it was not the triple mash. 1505 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:39,160 The triple mash was when he was on the, it was when he was on the Rasputin and that'll 1506 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,760 just make you say some crazy stuff right there. 1507 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:42,760 Oh, the bitters. 1508 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:43,760 Oh yeah. 1509 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,800 As you're trying to handle the bitter aftertaste. 1510 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:46,800 Yikes. 1511 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,920 So a couple of shows ago, thought I had an amazing tip for everybody. 1512 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:56,480 Go to BJ's couple of great off the menu beers. 1513 01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,200 One of them happened to be a black lager, which sounded good. 1514 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,080 And those are there. 1515 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,880 Where? 1516 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,840 Some of the time. 1517 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,320 Because I talked to the lady at the bar. 1518 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,600 No, what she didn't, couldn't get you was the growler. 1519 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,280 No, she couldn't get me the black lager. 1520 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,280 What? 1521 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:16,280 Yeah. 1522 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,240 She, I said, I need to get a growler of the black lager. 1523 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,400 She said, which one? 1524 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:25,920 I'm like, the black lager that's supposed to be one not on the menu. 1525 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,280 And she's like, what are you talking about? 1526 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,040 I was here a couple of weeks ago and the waitress said y'all had a black lager that was off 1527 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,040 the menu. 1528 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,040 She's gaslighting. 1529 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:36,040 Yeah. 1530 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,040 I feel like she totally tricked me. 1531 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,200 Now that you're saying that she's saying that the beer doesn't exist. 1532 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,720 I'm like, no, that's gaslighting right there. 1533 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:44,720 We're going back. 1534 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:45,720 She told me the beer doesn't exist. 1535 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:46,720 All right. 1536 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:47,720 We're on our way. 1537 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:48,720 We'll let you know. 1538 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,680 There's still some more due diligence to be done here. 1539 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,240 But we may have told you some misinformation. 1540 01:05:55,240 --> 01:06:01,340 I want everyone who's listening to this to go to a BJ's and be like, where is the black 1541 01:06:01,340 --> 01:06:02,440 lager? 1542 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:03,600 Off the menu black lager. 1543 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,200 Off the menu black lager. 1544 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,200 I'm in the no. 1545 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,200 Yes. 1546 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:12,080 So more details to come, but I was quite disappointed. 1547 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:13,080 Oh my gosh. 1548 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:14,080 That's terrible. 1549 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,040 My friends is why I have the Guinness. 1550 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,040 Yeah. 1551 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,040 It's really important. 1552 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,160 Cause that was a destruction of my quest. 1553 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,160 Yeah. 1554 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,000 I thought I was going to come here tonight. 1555 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:29,400 You need three of us with a growler full of a unique beer that none of us have ever tried. 1556 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:30,840 And you had to go for the comfort blanket. 1557 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:31,840 I did. 1558 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:36,840 So that he was snuggling earlier for those of you that couldn't see it. 1559 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:37,840 Yes. 1560 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:38,840 I had to lick my wounds. 1561 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:43,040 And so I went to the OG, get us extra south and it is so good. 1562 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,360 Oh, there he goes again. 1563 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:45,360 So good. 1564 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,840 I mean, highly recommend the best dark beer out there. 1565 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,880 I know there's plenty of you out there that would argue with me, but Guinness is the only 1566 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:54,880 he's not hearing it. 1567 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:55,880 No, I'm not hearing it. 1568 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:56,880 No. 1569 01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:57,880 I mean, why would you hear it? 1570 01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:58,880 So, all right. 1571 01:06:58,880 --> 01:06:59,880 Just like coffee is not a breakfast drink. 1572 01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,520 That depends on how your day's been going so far. 1573 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,560 I don't even know what to say to that. 1574 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,360 Chris Chris's coffee is Dr. Pepper. 1575 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:09,360 It is. 1576 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,280 We all know that is for sure his coffee. 1577 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:13,280 That's the best stuff. 1578 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,280 The best stuff. 1579 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,280 Okay. 1580 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,160 So last segment, we have a booster gram. 1581 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,680 No, I know it's a don't act shocked. 1582 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:23,680 Yikes. 1583 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,040 So, so I finally got my fountain app to work again. 1584 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,880 It's been misbehaving on me for weeks. 1585 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:31,880 Yes. 1586 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:38,680 So we have a booster gram for 777 sats. 1587 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,680 Okay. 1588 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:40,680 The number of completion. 1589 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,680 That's the number of completion. 1590 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:44,680 Absolutely. 1591 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:52,720 Um, from yours truly, Jason court right here in the flesh with a message that says, did 1592 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:59,040 John get my thanks for the PC versus Mac intro episode been struggling with fountain lately? 1593 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,320 Hence the, and then it unfortunately cuts the message off. 1594 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,400 Oh, listen, what were you going to say? 1595 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,440 The initial part of that message was it was 777 for the burrito. 1596 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,340 Oh, there you go. 1597 01:08:12,340 --> 01:08:15,400 So if you didn't see that, then it's, it's, it's cutting off both ends. 1598 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:21,440 Well, I guess the 777 for the burrito, that almost looks like it came across to the subject. 1599 01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:22,440 Interesting. 1600 01:08:22,440 --> 01:08:29,600 And then it's, but it does go to, um, no, seven layer burrito. 1601 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:30,600 Apparently. 1602 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:31,600 Um, thanks, Albie. 1603 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:32,600 You made some changes. 1604 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,200 Let me read that again. 1605 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,720 Did John get my things from the last PC versus Mac intro episode? 1606 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:38,720 Yeah. 1607 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:43,840 But struggling with fountain lately, hence the lack of boosts. 1608 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:44,840 Thanks a lot. 1609 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,280 They're a fountain. 1610 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,880 You're dipping into our big bucks. 1611 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:49,880 Not cool. 1612 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,120 If it was that critical, I could have found a different way to get them to you, but I 1613 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,280 was determined to get this app to do it. 1614 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:02,240 That's three months of no boosts because the rest of y'all apparently don't get any benefit 1615 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,240 from the show. 1616 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:08,680 On the PC versus Mac episode, I thought I boosted, but I don't know if it ever came 1617 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,100 through that was. 1618 01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:14,520 I would say no, because the last boost from you is June 24th. 1619 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:15,660 Interesting. 1620 01:09:15,660 --> 01:09:19,160 So John was making some comment about how he was using a windows machine at the time. 1621 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:20,160 I was. 1622 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,160 He was. 1623 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,160 And he gave up like a little girl. 1624 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,880 All right, you're cut off. 1625 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,560 I boosted in the episode and I was... 1626 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,040 It's true. 1627 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,840 You gave up. 1628 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:36,840 I did give up. 1629 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,720 I wouldn't say like a little girl, but... 1630 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:40,720 Oh yeah. 1631 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:41,720 Sorry, Tori. 1632 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:42,720 Yeah, right? 1633 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,840 Tori, he doesn't mean it. 1634 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:47,840 She's not listening. 1635 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:48,840 It doesn't matter. 1636 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,440 Still, it's out there for perpetuity. 1637 01:09:50,440 --> 01:09:52,120 Even my wife isn't listening. 1638 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,960 I'll have to figure out how to get Tori's mind. 1639 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,960 Don't worry about it. 1640 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,640 This boost came from Tori. 1641 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,960 I said that boost thanking John for running with the PC for us other AV guys that... 1642 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,200 Yeah, it didn't go well. 1643 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:06,200 No. 1644 01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:07,200 Sorry. 1645 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,160 There's so many applications that we use that are windows only. 1646 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:16,200 There is a windows machine that I have running that I can use for that stuff. 1647 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:17,200 Correct. 1648 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:18,200 But that's what I do too. 1649 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,640 I was just grateful you were taking the bullet and actually running the PC. 1650 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,440 No, it's so bad. 1651 01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:24,880 Sorry, Chris. 1652 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,360 Go back to the PC. 1653 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,360 I'm sorry, Chris. 1654 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,680 I didn't mean it. 1655 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,000 I wasn't trying to be hurtful. 1656 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,520 Anyway. 1657 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:39,520 I agree. 1658 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:40,520 He wasn't trying to be hurtful. 1659 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,680 There was nothing thrown across the room. 1660 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:44,680 Except for that bottle. 1661 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,080 The cap of the bottle. 1662 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,880 The cap of the bottle. 1663 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:48,880 That's it. 1664 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,440 No ninja stars or anything. 1665 01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:55,680 Jason, I cannot tell you how grateful we are to have had you on this podcast. 1666 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,080 Do you have any other questions about Dante? 1667 01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,080 I mean, I'm sure we do. 1668 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:00,920 So you're going to have to come back. 1669 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:01,920 That's all there is to it. 1670 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,480 I see what you did there. 1671 01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:04,480 Yeah. 1672 01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:09,560 It's called working at a church. 1673 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,440 Always trying to bring him back. 1674 01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:12,440 Yes. 1675 01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:13,920 Can't tell you everything this time. 1676 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,720 No, no, no. 1677 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:16,720 Just enough to... 1678 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:17,720 What your... 1679 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,480 Well, I was, as the hour came closer, I was a little nervous. 1680 01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:23,200 And I don't know exactly why. 1681 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,200 I just was. 1682 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,520 Because it's all the thousands of people out there listening. 1683 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:27,520 Hello. 1684 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:28,520 Yeah. 1685 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:29,880 I mean, how often do you talk to New Zealand? 1686 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:30,880 Never. 1687 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:31,880 Not very often. 1688 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,920 Yes, that did complete the set, by the way. 1689 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:34,920 Never. 1690 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,920 Oh, and then one last fun little number. 1691 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:37,920 Yeah. 1692 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:38,920 We hit a milestone. 1693 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:40,920 Is Australia on the... 1694 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:41,920 Drumroll, please. 1695 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:42,920 No, no, no, no, no, no. 1696 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:43,920 Total number of downloads. 1697 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:44,920 Yeah. 1698 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:45,920 600. 1699 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:46,920 Hey-o. 1700 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:47,920 That's big time. 1701 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:48,920 Yeah. 1702 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,120 I mean, what marketing goes into this show? 1703 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,120 None. 1704 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,120 None at all. 1705 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:54,120 I don't... 1706 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,120 Yeah, no. 1707 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,120 I tell Jason. 1708 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,120 It's simple for him. 1709 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,120 Hey, Jason. 1710 01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,120 There's a new episode. 1711 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,120 There's a new episode. 1712 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,680 Wayne, if you're out there listening still, I hope we crank the knob up loud enough for 1713 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:04,680 you. 1714 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:05,680 There you go. 1715 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:06,680 There's a few. 1716 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:07,680 Thanks, Wayne. 1717 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,520 There's a few. 1718 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,320 My most recent boss is apparently a new listener. 1719 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:14,320 Yeah. 1720 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,000 I'm sorry about that. 1721 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,000 His boss too. 1722 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,000 Yeah. 1723 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,000 Oh, yeah. 1724 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,000 Yeah. 1725 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,000 It's important to know so we don't... 1726 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,000 I have eight different bosses, Bob. 1727 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,000 Oh my gosh. 1728 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,000 Bob. 1729 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:28,920 Basically, I'm just trying not to get in trouble. 1730 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:29,920 That's right. 1731 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,560 I don't remember much about that movie, but it is hilarious. 1732 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,160 Yeah, my only real motivation is to not screw up. 1733 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,920 So that way I don't have eight different people telling me what I did wrong. 1734 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:39,920 That's a paraphrase. 1735 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:40,920 That's a... 1736 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:41,920 You get the... 1737 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:42,920 I believe you have my... 1738 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:43,920 I believe you have my stabler. 1739 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:44,920 It's a swing line. 1740 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,600 Can you tell me about the boss stitch versus the swing line, please? 1741 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,040 Hey, dude. 1742 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,040 Channel 9. 1743 01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,040 It's been fun, guys. 1744 01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:55,040 Truly. 1745 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:56,040 Thanks for being here, man. 1746 01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,040 Appreciate you. 1747 01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,040 We're going off the rails. 1748 01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,520 Chris, always a pleasure. 1749 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:00,520 Absolutely. 1750 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:01,520 Enjoyed it. 1751 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:02,520 Thank you, Jason. 1752 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:03,520 Cheers. 1753 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:26,800 That means recording. 1754 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:27,800 I don't know. 1755 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:28,800 I don't know what you did. 1756 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:29,800 I was holding the... 1757 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:30,800 Oh. 1758 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:51,800 Here it is.