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Hey Chris. Hey John, how are you? Good. Good. I had to, those of you in the audience, I
just had to tell Chris to stop talking so we could start the podcast. Yes. So that we
could... I got in trouble. So we could talk about things because there are things to talk
about and he starts bringing stuff up. I'm like, this is great for the podcast. We got
to do this on the podcast. I did kind of bring the unwritten rule and then you don't talk
about the stuff until you're on the show. Right. It's hard not to. That's true. This
is what we talk about a lot of the time. Yes. Thanks for joining us for another Beer and
Gear. So I am kind of... I'm in a weird place right now. This is my normal personality,
I think, but also because I am super tired and exhausted and have been working nonstop
for a little while here. I've got like decision overload. I don't have any executive powers
right now. So I was like, I'm going to get the beer this time because Chris has brought
the beer the last few times. So I'm going to go get the beer. And when I went to go
get the beer, I was like, I... This was a mistake. You brought the beer. I did. So,
but this is what happens to me. Instead of just deciding and buying a beer, like one
type of beer or whatever. So I brought three options. There's nothing wrong with a smorgasbord.
But it is... That's what I do. Yeah. I got this from my dad. Hey. My dad, whenever something
is happening at our house, he's always like, can I go get everybody some food? What does
everybody want? And then he shows up with like all the food as a thing. Hey, it's hospitality.
It is hospitality. I will say we come by it honest because his mother was the same way,
except she would just make everything ridiculous. It was a different time. It was a different time.
So the one that you have decided to start with... Emphasis on start. Start with is North Coast
Brewing Company. Yes. Does it say where that's from? Product of the US? Yeah. It's from the
US. We know that even though... And it's got some clearly Russian writing. Yeah, because
the beer is called Old Rasputin. Russian Imperial Stout. It's a Russian Imperial Stout. I will
tell you, I was a little bit surprised to see it because everything right now on the
pick six wall at Brookshire's is Oktoberfest. Like everything's Oktoberfest. I don't doubt
it. And I'm like, oh, and there's this Russian beer. So there's that. Okay. So I found it.
It is the North Coast Brewing Company, Fort Bragg, California. So it's in California.
In California. Super close to Russia. Yeah, I can see it from my back porch. There you
go. Or front porch or whichever porch it was. Not Alaska, but California, close enough.
So you're going to start with that one. And I'm going to start with this Obsidian. It's
just Deschutes Obsidian Stout. I don't know how to pronounce that. I don't know either.
But yeah, Deschutesbrewery.com. Okay. That's fun. The formation of Obsidian. I'm going
to read this on air. That'll be fun. Named for the iconic lava flows forever crystallized
in central Oregon. Obsidian Stout is as smooth as the black glass it's named after. Black
barley and roasted malts deliver a depth of flavor that promises enjoyable notes of espresso
and chocolate. It's a 6.4. So we're fine. Yeah, we're fine. We've had 18. Nobody can
touch us anymore. That's interesting. It's a family and employee owned since 1988. Okay.
Well, since you read, I feel compelled to read too. Okay. So I've got a little blurb
on mine. Maybe this will be a thing. Maybe. Brewed in the tradition of the 18th century
English brewers who supplied the Russian court of Catherine the Great. That's big time. Big
time. Old Rasputin develops a cult following wherever it goes. It's a rich, intense brew
with big complex flavors and a warming finish. And it's 9%. Oh, okay. Because Russia. Because
Russia and warming. And warming, yes. And then the other option that we have is the
Hofbraud Dunkel, which you have had in a previous show. It was good. It was good. Okay, go for it.
All right. Not bad. Sorry, I don't have glasses for us. We've still not made the- That's okay.
I don't mind drinking from the bottle. It's not made the purchase. Oh, that was weak.
Of our licensed merchandise. There you go. Cheers. Cheers.
Yeah, that's good. Sorry for the mouth sounds. Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, that's got like an
interesting finish. It lingers a little bit longer than I'm used to. What do you think?
Initially, it's a little more bitter than I like, but it kind of fades. Okay. I think this one
starts less bitter and then gets more bitter. Okay. So that's the thing. Okay. It's not bad.
I mean, the Russians start bitter too, so I feel like maybe they're just
on brand. Okay, so let's get into what we were talking about right before when I had to tell
you to stop talking because we're wasting good content on just us. Yes. So you were saying though,
because I have actually been looking at, I want to do a setup at home. Yes. Really badly. And I was
going to do the roadcast duo. Yes. So this comes from a podcast that I listen to, Podcasting 2.0.
If you've been listening to this show, that's no surprise. You've heard of it before. Yes, there's
a whole podcast dedicated to it. Adam Curry has the duo as his mobile rig. Yeah. So he was recently
in Mexico, did some shows. When he got there and got set up, initially, it didn't want to work
because it was saying, hey, you need to do firmware updates, which always makes you nervous.
You're like, I don't know if I want to do firmware updates. Correct. Because prior to this firmware,
there was no issue. Okay. So he was forced to do it in order to use the road central app to be able
to pull recorded content. Yeah. So he did that. The app had updated. So the firmware had to update as
well. Yes. So upon completion of the firmware update, it appears to have introduced an issue
with USB. He uses one of the USB connections for his jingle board. And it just randomly
stops working in the middle of the show. And you have to close and reconnect. Thankfully,
he hasn't had to fully reboot the road caster, but he'll go to play something and be like,
oh, it broke. Hold on one second. Get it going again. And he's just fine. And there doesn't
seem to be any kind of rhyme or reason other than it looks like it could be some type of a
keep alive issue that is not doing the keep alive and it's dropping the connection.
The keep alive issue where it's not keeping it alive.
Exactly. So I'm kind of waiting. I'm a few shows behind on some of his others. So I'm waiting to
see if he has figured it out or not. So all that to say a little bit of concern there with the duo.
That's not good, man. Hopefully it doesn't roll over to the big boy.
Yeah. We haven't done a firmware in a while. That might not be a bad thing to just kind of
leave it as is. Just let it go. Let other people be the guinea pig. Yeah. That's the way that we've
operated with the road caster for a while that we just plug in an external hard drive into the back
of it and record to that and then transfer that way as opposed to actually plugging our computers
into it. Does that make sense? It does. Because I actually have had a few problems with this road
caster over the year. I guess it's been a couple of years now with the second. Yeah. Sounds about
right. And when I've plugged things into it and like the connection between road caster central
and it or whatever the app is now and it has not always been super solid and that makes me not feel
great about it. So I basically load every sound that we need onto it. Yes. Run the show the way
that we normally do and then hopefully don't have to rerecord it for some reason. Correct.
Afterwards. And I will tell you we've also gone the micro SD route on the back of it. Don't do
that. Just plug a hard drive, solid state hard drive into the back of that thing. It's way better.
Way faster. Way faster to move stuff too. So. But while we're sharing new fun stuff. Yeah.
I have a piece of hardware that you might want to consider. It is from Audio Sigma. Audio Sigma.
It is the Pod Mobile DSP. It is small portable. Gives you two XLR connections.
Say the last part again. Pod Mobile DSP. DSP. Well. Sure. It's Audio Sigma Pod Mobile DSP.
Yes. Very portable. Yeah. Look at that. Yeah. That looks like a Raspberry Pi with some.
Almost. They slapped some metal on either side of it.
Almost. And the way it is designed, if you kind of scroll through that page. Yeah.
You can see that you can actually hook up multiples of them. To each other.
If you had to. Yeah. To expand.
Daisy chain those bad boys. Yeah. You could bring in up to 10 different mics.
Huh. Over that one little.
Because the hardware itself only has. Well, no. There's. Hold on.
It is the two XLRs. Yeah. The two XLRs is what I was looking at. But then there are two at the
bottom that look like it in there. There's the monitor out in Aux-in. Yes. There's USB audio.
There's power. And then it's got an equalizer, a denoise on each side.
For each of the mics. And those are independent. And then a recording mode. Normal stage and split.
Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. Ooh. Phantom power.
For all you condenser fans out there. Yes. I don't know what's wrong with you.
I've been tempted to buy this just to play around. Yeah. And it's not too bad at $359.
Yeah, that's not bad at all. That's very mobile. It is. Okay. So on the. It's like that. What I
was just reading was off the like underside of it. That's interesting. And then the top side of it
actually has gain knobs. And then headphone volume. And then you can either have the mix
volume or a mix knob that's either going towards mic or USB. Interesting. Can you plug a USB
C microphone into this? That's a good question. I don't know the answer to that. I mean, it'd be
the USB audio. I would lean towards no. Because I feel like that USB C port is more for delivering
power to the device. No, there's a five volt power right next to it. Like there's that little circle.
You should definitely pull this up while we're talking about this. Because we're going to say
some things that don't make sense. So like just to the. If you're looking at the first picture,
just to the right of the RJ 45 port, there's a little circle. I think that's the power.
Really? And then the USB C, if you look on the next picture, it labels the USB C as USB audio.
So I don't know. And that's bi-directional. That's true. I do see that on the bottom side.
It's so I think that would be audio in out. I think that would normally be like the like
for connecting to your computer to get the audio recording out to. I'm not seeing another way to do.
Well, you do have a handy dandy USB mic at your disposal.
I do. Anyway, these are fun things to
problem solve. And if you buy one, then we'll know for sure, Chris.
No pressure. No pressure. Or, you know, audio sigma. Hit us up.
Well, that'd be nice. We'll record off your device and tell everybody how awesome it is.
Or not awesome. Not promising anything. Depends on how much money they give us.
He can be bought. Okay. Yeah, that's some good.
Now my brain's going to be mulling that over all night long.
Well, see, this is where we've got to figure out. How can you spend money on the show
and it becomes a tax write off? I mean, I think I could easily spend money on the show and have it
be a tax write off. I'm more interested in how to spend money on the show that becomes a tax write
off that also makes money for me. That's true, too. I'm really good at not having to spend money on
that. Not breaking even. I have no problem having zero taxable income when it comes to buying things
for things that I'm doing. Mercy. Little toasty.
I'm not even drinking the one that's supposed to heat me up. Had to turn on the AC a little bit.
It's 74. That's warm for me. Yeah. Yeah. That's fun. They've also got a Mike Hero DSP that's just
a single input. Correct. That'd be interesting to, like you said, daisy chain these bad boys together
and then, yeah, that's fun. I have a friend who asked me this week for, he was asking for a USB
mic and I was like, oh, I got this solution. I've got this solution and I handed him one.
Then I found out the next day when I heard from him, I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot you have a PC.
That box that I gave you is not going to work, I guess. I didn't even realize it was Mac only.
What did you give him? It was a UA arrow. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, some of their gear is
Mac only. I mean, I always check before I buy something, but I don't remember after I've bought
the... Although I feel like the arrow. It may be, I mean, that one could be eight years old.
I don't know. It's Thunderbolt. Yeah, it was definitely Thunderbolt. Yeah, if it's the
Thunderbolt 3 model, then it's probably not going to go to them. Not going to make the leap.
Anyway, so I got to dig into my bag and find one of the other options, which is not hard.
Just requires remembering to do it. That's true. Hey, let's talk about Ubiquiti.
Yeah, let's talk Ubiquiti. Ubiquiti, UniFi, UI.
UISP. Can we get... LNNOP. I mean, just guys. We need to work on branding in a way that
people understand they're talking about one thing. Yes, and as always, this is not sponsored.
Everything you hear... Yet. Well, not sponsored yet. Don't be such a pessimist.
So everything you hear is our honest opinion. We can trash it all we want or praise it all we want.
Yeah, I'm probably going to praise UniFi. Yeah. It's made my life a lot easier.
I'm definitely going to have some good things to say for both. I'll have some things that I'm like,
I should probably change that, but... Okay, so let's... So basically, Ubiquiti essentially has
two sides of the house. You have UniFi, which I consider prosumer. Some people may not like
that term. Yeah. The only reason I don't like it is because I fall into it so often. I like the ease
of the consumer products and I like the pro of the pro products. Pro products, yes. But it really
does kind of... Makes me feel like a shlup though. Throwing out that term. But it does work great at
home. We both have it at home. We both have it at home. Absolutely love it. Yeah. But it's also
great for small business. Great for small business. And even up to some medium business applications.
Yeah. Can be managed locally. You don't have to use the cloud option, but it's there. It is.
So I love the fact that if I want to, I can hit it local and do whatever I want to do. Yeah.
You don't have to. You don't. Yeah. You're not specifically tied to the cloud, which is nice.
It's really clean. But the cloud does come in handy, I'm just saying. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
When you're away and you can go, oh, hey, I can fix that. So really clean and easy to use
web interface for management. That same interface does translate to the local interface. So it's not
like when you're on the cloud side, it looks one way. And when you're managing it locally,
it looks a completely different way. So that's kind of nice. Yeah. They offer a couple of different
applications in their stack, if you will. There's the network app. That's pretty straightforward
on what that is. They have Protect, which is camera and security. You have Access, which is all around
doors, elevators, and different doors that you would like to access. Talk is their phone solution.
And then Connect is fairly new for them. And that is going to be around digital signage.
Digital signage, basically IoT. Yeah. Because they, well, I'm jumping ahead, so I won't say that.
Yeah. No, there's quite a few things that they want to pull you into with Connect. And this,
to me, feels like their enterprise, your face. And I'm adjusting to the better. We maybe jump
into the Hoffbra. No, no, no, no. I'm committed. I've already started. I'll finish. Yeah.
Yeah. This feels like they're venturing to Connect and everything. They've been pushing
up the features on their switches and the dream machine, which we'll talk about. But they've also
been pushing up on the side of it that I feel like is more they're like, we really want to be
enterprise. We really want to be bigger business. We want full structure. Yeah, they want to have
their own full stack environment. And so Connect are these candy things that are just, wow, that'd
be nice. And I think that's going to pull a lot of people their direction. Oh, absolutely. Because
you have a single pane of glass to manage it all. Glad they asked me when they were doing their
roadmap for development. Also, they've got an ad campaign with the
Apple. They've got an ad campaign, which I've never seen on actual TV, but it's very
Justin Long Apple ad campaign. If you guys remember that where it was Justin was the
Apple and the PC. Yeah, there was a nerdy guy was the PC. Yes, he was. My people's.
Your people. Anyway, so if you go to UI.com, you're going to see that side. You can go through.
Those are pretty funny. They are. Even if you're not a fan. Anyway, where do you want to start?
Well, we'll hit the UISP side real quick before we hit the line. Sorry. It's okay.
So UISP is their Internet Service Provider offering. You may sometime hear it referred
to as WISP, a wireless Internet Service Provider. Big things in there are going to be wireless
bridging. And you're going to be able to push some serious distance in the bridging that they
offer in that lineup up to 12 kilometers or for us Americans at seven miles. Listen, I
involve I included the Europeans in the world. I want you to know we're sticking with the miles.
Yes, we are sticking with the miles. So they go any they start off at five gigahertz. There's an
11 gigahertz, which is the beginning, if I remember correctly, of a microwave. Yeah, there's 24
gigahertz all the way up to 60 gigahertz. Obviously, more gigs is more bandwidth. More
bandwidth. But more bandwidth also comes with tighter tolerances. If you don't know what we're
talking about, and we went through this in depth, I don't know how many shows ago. It's been a few.
It's been a few shows, but look for the one where we talk about. Maybe we'll link it. We'll link it
in the notes. How about that? What's up podcast? We have to find it. We can find it later. It's fine.
Will you send me down the rabbit hole? I don't know. Okay. So anyways. Oh, no. The brain is
functioning. Yes. Higher gigahertz basically just translates to more bandwidth, which is great. But
you had tighter tolerances. So when it rains, you will know it. They also go into fiber GPON,
which is Gigabit Passive Opting Network. I don't know what you just said. Think of that as fiber
to the doorstep is how I would describe it. And then of course they have their own wired line of
edge routers and switches that are specific to the service provider side. I mean, I have fiber
to my doorstep. You do. And it possibly could be a PON or GPON solution. You'd have to ask your
provider. Interesting. Yeah. And then you said wired edge line of router and switches. Yes. So now
we can get to where you wanted to go. Yes. And just kind of go over the lineup of Unifi.
I want to hit a few pieces as we go through this. I don't want to go too deep
because I definitely want to come back in future shows and dig in more on the Unifi.
Hi. Ubiquiti, are you listening? We're doing a whole series. Just for you. We're going to be
here for a while. Just for you. Just for you. Anyway, it's going to be great. Yeah. Blame it
on the beer. Wow. He got weird. OK. Unifi lineup. Yeah. So they start with their cloud gateway.
You can think of this a couple of different ways. Essentially, it's the heart of the network for
Unifi. Yeah. Foundational. Yes. Whether it is literally just the controller piece that allows
you to configure equipment or if it is the controller with the router and some switching
and some camera capabilities baked into it. And why wouldn't you want all of them?
All the things. All the things. Unless you like things to be more granular. And they meet people
halfway there. Yes. And I am grateful that they meet halfway. Yes. But that's not me. So one quick
example. I'm an all-in kind of guy. There you go. One quick example is their dream machine lineup.
Yeah. You know, here at the church, we use the dream machine special edition. We do. We went
all the way up to the special edition. Yes, we did. Pretty quickly, too. We had to climb that
ladder. We had some lightning strikes that made us climb that ladder fast. Yeah. So this has,
basically, that controller built in. Yes. It has a eight-port switch with Peely baked in.
You have dedicated internet ports. You can do a total of... I think there's eight of those on the...
There's eight switch ports. Eight switch ports. Yes. Which can all do... There's two PoE plus and
six PoE. Okay. So depending upon your power needs, you can do 10 gig SFP if you need it. There is
also a two and a half gig RJ45 that's dedicated to WAN. So if you have some of that really nice
fiber internet that is capable of breaking a gig, you're ready to roll. And it can handle up to
three and a half gigs gigabit per second of routing with intrusion detection and prevention turned on.
Yeah. Which is really nice. It's a big deal. You've got a single hard drive bay or protect
so that if you have the camera, you can store your recordings. They have one with two now.
Yeah. We're just talking about the special edition. Sorry. Let's go. Yes. So yeah, this is just a
special edition. My bad. Yeah. I get off topic. You're chasing rabbit holes. I am. I'm like,
oh, but they came out with... Because they are constantly coming out with... They are. The next.
They are. Sorry. Go ahead. And then it has the nice neat little touchscreen on the front. Yeah.
And that has been handier, I will say, than I expected it to be. It is. I do love... The
like they've... The touchscreen on the front also has the ability to work as a like almost... What
is it called? Where you hold your phone up to it and it gives you the information. Oh, augmented
reality. Thank you. Augmented reality. Yes. It has the ability to do that as well. So you can actually
see on your phone what the different ports are and not have to look at it on your screen in a
different... Correct. Whatever. But that's pretty darn cool. It's an interesting touch. But the
touchscreen by itself is cool. Yes. To be able to walk in to that room and flip through and be like,
oh, that's a caution. What am I looking for? And see real quickly without having to pull out my
phone, without having to pull out my computer, to be able to see those things is really... Correct.
A great touch. Correct. So I'm going to rabbit hole real quick. Yeah. We won't go over it. They
appear to have added a new product to this lineup and get this name, Enterprise Fortress Gateway.
Okay. So why don't you call it a fortress? I have to buy it. Yeah. I was about to say,
they know who their suckers are, don't they? Because they didn't say... Take my money. Yeah.
They could have said so many things, but they said fortress. And now all of us
security nerds are like, wait a minute. My Dream Machine special edition is now insufficient.
And I can't be... I have to have the fortress. Ridiculously undermanned. I just have a special
edition. What if a fortress comes along? Correct. No, they know what they're doing.
They know what they're doing. Correct. Is that in the enterprise scale?
Yeah. I would like to think so with a name like Enterprise Fortress.
I mean, yeah. Designed for massive scale. Holy cow. It's expensive.
Effortlessly manages 500 plus. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Now you've got me. Yep. Nope. There it
is. That's not good. Come back. Come back. You know when you've got the double power supply.
Yeah. That's a real thing. Okay. Oh yeah. I'm going to have to look at that when I don't have
to think about other things. Shoot. And then the one other thing that falls into this,
although I thought about putting it under miscellaneous, is they do have a hosted version
of... And the way that it reads, if somebody out there knows otherwise, let me know. But it reads
like you're mostly just controlling network. It doesn't read anything about protect, access, talk,
or anything. So they have two different offerings out there right now. I believe one will manage
up to... Let me look it up so I'm not lying. Yeah. They need to be lying. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, where did it
go? Where did it go? Unify Hosting. So $29 a month gets you... Where are you at? Oh, I don't want to
sign that. I have no idea what you're... Yeah. I'm dealing with over there. They're making it
difficult for me to find this because there's... Okay. While you're doing that, I want to say real
quick, the Dream Machine Special Edition is the one that we have. The one that I was talking about
that has the two hard drive slots is the Dream Machine Pro Max. Have they been watching Apple?
They're former Apple guys. What do you expect? It's just... That is one of my complaints.
Hard to overlook that. But I will say it... So the Dream Machine Pro, you would expect to be... I don't
know, just because it says Pro, would expect to be better than the Special Edition. I'm going to take
the Special Edition over the Pro every time if you look at the specs. Really the only difference is
the Special Edition has the PoE Plus and 6 PoE. It doesn't list that on the other two. Correct.
And then the Pro Max has two of the NVR HDD bays. Correct. Correct. So I found it $29 a month,
up to 100 devices, and 100 bucks a month, up to 1,000 devices. But that appears to only be on
the network side of things. Okay. So take that for what you will.
All right. Shifting gears to switches. Switches. Don't need no switches. Well, I do want to say,
like there are... They do now have the... In the controller side of things, the
Dream Machines that we have don't look like they're a thing anymore. That's interesting. Now they
look like Mac Minis. Oh, no, there it is. There's the Dream Router. The Dream Router. They have the
Express though, and the Dream Wall. The Wall was an interesting concept. Yeah. I don't know that we...
I looked at it for us. It is very interesting. I'll just put it that way.
Anyway, it looks like one of the newfangled... Tesla Powerwalls. Tesla Powerwalls. Exactly.
Yes. And then the Express looks like a Mac Mini. It's a white Mac Mini. I think it's actually
sitting next to an Apple TV in that video I just saw. That's hilarious. So maybe it's more the size
of an Apple TV. Anyway. Yeah. So they're both like, I would say those, the Compact and the Dream Machine
that we have... Dream Router, sorry. Those are more like home devices. Yes. Go ahead. Onward to
switching. Onward to switches. Switches. So as you look through that lineup, you're going to see more
familiar. Apple Nomenclature. Yep. Pro and the Pro Max. Oh, but it says professional. Oh, it does.
It can't be being exactly the same. So they have anything from small 5 to 8 port switches
up to your 24 to 48 port switches, depending on your density of what you need. They have non-POE.
They have POE, POE plus. Yeah. Definitely be very specific about when you're planning your
purchases out, how much of that you need. Yes. You definitely need to calculate your POE carefully.
It's not hard to run out. Nobody wants to use injectors anymore. No. Not if you can avoid it.
They do have them if you need them. They do. But that is such a bummer every time I have to run one.
Absolutely. Go ahead. So switch ports go anywhere from a gig to 10 gig, and they do have the
two and a half gig multi-gig option in between, depending on your needs. That's down. Two and a
half gig is nice if you have access points that can take advantage of that. I find myself wanting it,
but then I go, well, some of my fiber trunks are only a gig, and my internet connection
is less than a gig. So what am I actually trying to achieve? Because yeah, sure, I could do
two and a half gig in theory with that access point, but unless it's device to device,
you're not accomplishing a whole lot there. Because every other connection downstream
is less and becomes the bottleneck. Yeah. That's a problem. Yeah. Gotta remember which way the
tree roots go on that one. And then as we talked about, they have their lineup,
their lineup, there's their standard line, which is typically non-POE. They have their Pro,
their Pro Max, and their Enterprise, and those are going to be bringing in the POE,
and then the multi-gig and 10 gig. Yeah. 10 gig down, 25 gig up. That's insane. And that is
partially to enable, I guess, at least from what I can tell, this Pro AV support that they have
on the Enterprise. Yes. Well, I guess they have that on the Pro Max and the Pro as well. Anyway.
I want to go ahead and say one of our areas of things that we should talk about is this
AV support. Let's talk about that at some point. Okay. List that under the future.
Future episodes. Future episodes. Yeah, but you can really see a lot of flexibility and a lot of,
you know, like you don't have to buy the thing that does way more than you need.
But also, why wouldn't you want to buy the thing that does way more than you need?
I feel like Tim Allen right now. Or Tim, sorry, Tim Taylor. Tim Allen was the actor.
Yeah. I just need, I need more power. That's, every time we look at switches, I'm like,
yeah, well, what's the top? Correct. And so I was going to say to those who were playing along,
you may look at some of these prices and go, ouch. And some of them can get a little expensive.
But when you start looking at Cisco, you start looking at Juniper, you start looking at Meraki,
you go, oh, that's actually not so bad. Yeah. They're not, they're not bad.
No, they're not at all. Even in the enterprise line, which is their highest level as you go,
you can pick up a 48 port POE plus switch with 2.5 gig multi gig ethernet for $1,600.
Yeah. It's just not bad. No, not bad at all. I like this mission critical one. That's always fun.
And it's also, and that switch that I was talking about is also layer three capable.
Layer three capable. Oh, layer three. There's an old episode for that one too.
Was that not the same? Did we not do that at the same time? They were around the same time.
I know that. We talked about layers. They're really close. Yeah. So man.
Yes. The seven layer burrito. The seven layer burrito. Yes.
Coming to you from Ubiquiti. No, sorry. They should name one of their switches,
the seven layer burrito. That would be awesome. No, it wouldn't. Nobody would buy that.
We should have named that episode that seven layer burrito. Yes. Absolutely.
When we do it again, we'll do that. How about that? There you go. Why not? Yeah. Access points.
Access points. You will sometimes hear me refer to these as radios.
Or APs. Or APs. I tend to say radio most of the time.
If you say radio, I usually say AP. Yes. It's a generational thing.
He's just calling me old. Listen, X.
I know that this has turned some color. Yeah, it has.
That's what you get for being a redhead or whatever.
Yes. That's what I give for approaching 50. Oh man. That's what it is.
Sad comment. Yeah. You'll get there someday.
I will. Whippersnapper. I will or I won't. It's fine. I have a negotiation ongoing with Godward.
I go first. I'm not going to any of my friend's funerals.
There you go. I get radio from my first boss at Pine Cove, Tom McKeon.
Tom McKeon. Legend. The man, the myth, the legend.
If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have ever been at Pine Cove.
Wow. Well, that and the fact that the other person chose static assignment of addresses
rather than DHCP. Really?
Really. He told me that was the difference. It was down to me and one other person.
And they chose static. And they said that they would rather
things be statically assigned so that they could have control over it.
And I said DHCP because I don't care what IP is out there.
There's a handful of devices that are static. But the vast majority, I don't care what their IP is.
That's the beauty of DHCP. I don't have to worry about it. I get out of the way.
Wow. That's a pretty big difference there.
There's a D cut from 2005.
Makes me feel like that guy didn't ever work on big networks.
I would assume he didn't. Because, I mean, no.
DHCP is your friend. You can't static everything.
It's one thing if you say, instead of a static, I want to do a reservation. Okay, fine.
But if you truly want to static things, you're asking for trouble.
Yeah, that's not good. You're asking for trouble.
Anyway. Okay. So back out of that rabbit hole.
And coming back.
Radios. You can still find some of their older ones out there. But I wouldn't go
any further back than the Wi-Fi AC or Wi-Fi 5. Ideally, you really should be buying,
at a minimum, 6 or 6E. If you can get the 7, it's worth it. It's the latest and greatest.
It will be worth it later, for sure.
It will definitely future-proof your purchase.
And then, of course, they have the standard indoor and outdoor varieties.
Yeah, I'm looking at some of these going, I don't remember these being an option.
This is weird.
Yes.
Like, they've got so many new ones.
And then they have...
That one's called the Swiss Army Knife.
Yeah, we'll talk about that one here in a minute.
Oh my gosh.
So they do have building-to-building bridge, which is nice if you had no choice but to do
wireless between. You're buying a matched set, if you will. And then, of course,
we have some of these. They have their in-wall options. You might think of those as a hospitality
type access point that you would install in a hotel room or...
Real low-profile.
Yes.
Made for a room.
Made for a room. Absolutely.
Yeah.
Absolutely. So let's pull up that.
That's been really handy. I mean, you know, but I will tell everybody, that's been really handy in
some of our classroom situations because it has ports coming out of it as well.
It does.
So you, you know, one in and then ports coming out. They're not PoE.
But if you've got things that you want to hardwire in that you don't need PoE for...
Like an Apple TV.
Like an Apple TV and a TV and a DVD player. I mean, like all of these things, just having
a few ports at the bottom of this AP... Yeah, sorry, radio.
Radio. AP works.
At the bottom of this radio has been very handy, way handier than I really even dreamed it would be
whenever I first started using them. And then we also have... I don't know. I don't even see it
on here. Am I just missing it? We have an extender that we also use.
Yeah, the Wi-Fi 6 extender.
Where is that?
Oh, there it is. Yeah, U6 extender. We have that in one of our rooms as well,
because we have a device that's a little bit too far away from a radio and needed an extra boost.
Yes, it did.
And I have said it and forget it. I don't even remember that it's there most of the time.
Correct.
But I came across it the other day when I was moving a piece of furniture. I was like,
oh, that's where that is.
Hi, friend. Good to see you're still working.
I haven't had to think about you. And that's my favorite piece of
network gear is the piece that I don't have to remember is there.
Remember or think about. So let's talk the Swiss Army Knife.
Yeah, I want to talk about the Swiss Army Knife.
It's cheap at $89. It's an interesting little device. Now, it is Wi-Fi 5.
So it is a little bit older.
Which means they're going to come out with a new one here at some point.
I'm sure at some point. But it can be used indoor or outdoor.
It has different mounting options. It can handle up to 200 connected devices.
You can obviously power it with PoE.
Yeah, I'm seeing it on a pole and on a concrete wall.
And yeah, you can do regular wall mount or ceiling mount.
It does have the ability for external antennas.
Yeah, I see that.
Yes.
So does it come with external antennas or you have to... Oh, let me see in the box.
No, I believe you have to buy the antennas separate.
No, no, you missed it there.
But you don't necessarily have to have them because it does have an internal...
I'm just saying...
Antenna.
...quity. Hence the name.
Maybe $95.
The Swiss Army Knife.
Maybe $95. We have some antennas.
But that is the Apple coming out of them and going...
You know, you can buy that for $30 extra.
You want the antennas. That's a little bit more money.
Mm-hmm.
So interesting little product.
Yeah.
Incredibly versatile.
What's the... Okay, I got to go back to the data sheet real quick.
Wind survivability. You got to love that.
125 miles an hour.
Oh, gosh. So that's what...
What kind of...
Category two?
Yeah, what kind of testing did they do on a wind tunnel?
They installed them in Florida.
And they were like, about 125 miles an hour. That's when they all came out.
Yes. So...
Oh, wow.
Interesting little product. Very versatile.
It is MIMO.
And what it can do. It is.
Okay. Antenna gain at 2.4 gigahertz. It is 4.7 dBi. And 5 gigahertz at 6.1. There you go.
There's one internal antenna and then two external.
Yes. So interesting little product.
Wow. Yeah. No, I'm intrigued.
Because it's tiny, right? It doesn't look big at all.
No, it does not.
Okay. It's like five inches by three inches.
The size of your hand.
Yeah. The size of your hand. That's great.
Ooh, marketing images. You got to love that.
Okay. Let's move on.
He went down the rabbit hole.
Yeah, I did. Sorry. It happens.
Okay. I think I'm going to go for the next beer.
Okay. Which one are you doing?
Okay.
I got to go obsidian because I've had the...
You're going to have to try the obsidian.
The dunkle.
Can I get that opener from you, though?
Yes. Just do it on the table.
Okay.
Oh, it went all over my laptop.
Oh, don't. Wait, that's not mine. It's fine. That's not one of mine.
That's yours. Go ahead and run it.
Yeah. I don't have to do support on your laptop.
Don't say it so emphatically, Chris.
No, you will not be touching my laptop with your apple fingers.
With your grimy hands.
Okay.
Okay. So next up is camera slash security. They refer to this as protect.
Yes. And that's the app and both the control app and then the app that you can get on your phone
are both called protect. You see what I'm saying? It's like smooth and then it gets bitter.
Yeah. It's like, hi friend.
Ow.
Oh. I like it better than the old Rasputin.
Okay.
So plus it looks like it's got Erebor on the label.
It really does.
I was like, that really looks like the lonely man. There needs to be a dragon above it.
Yes. A red dragon.
A red dragon above it. But other than that.
Now I want to go humming the songs, but I'm not going to do it.
You are such a nerd. This is the area that I wish that we had access to earlier.
Earlier. Absolutely.
Because if we had had this earlier, then I would have pushed for this earlier.
Correct.
And then we would have these instead of having multiple.
Multiple services.
Services that I don't appreciate.
Well, we can always try to make the business case for why you need to switch.
It's just a tough one when you've got as many buildings as we do to go back and retrofit.
But the beauty is all that cabling is already in place.
That's true. We don't have to recable.
And all you do is just install the new camera with a new NVR and you're good to go.
So you see why it's good to have Chris around?
Because he can just talk you into anything.
Yes.
You know you want to.
Yes.
Okay. So camera security.
Yes.
Protect.
Protect. They have a very broad line of cameras in this.
They have two different NVRs. They have a smaller 1U.
That is going to be good for roughly up to 30 days of recording.
It really depends on how your settings are and what your triggers.
Correct. So the number of cameras, what quality of the recording.
Are you recording all the time? Are you recording motion only?
Then they have the larger option.
And I don't remember if it's 2U or 3U.
I think it's just 2.
I was thinking 2U. That looks 2U. I would agree. 2U.
2U. That one they say 60 days. I can speak to this one in particular.
We use it at work. We've got way more than 60 days of recordings.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
The 30 days is what they say on the other one and I guarantee.
You can go a lot longer than that.
So we, for just to clarify, we only record on motion.
But when you've got people in a camp store, there's constant motion.
Yeah. So it's basically all the time.
Correct. And I think we record at 720. We do not record at the full 1080.
Yeah. And so then like the other side of this is if you are wanting a
controller for cameras and things like that without the recording on them, they still have
the cloud keys as options for being able to
control a camera setup to be able to see things.
Correct. And the CloudKey Plus does have actually a single hard drive bay.
Oh, does it?
Yeah. So at the church we used to have the original slim line.
It's got a one terabyte already installed.
Oh, well, it wasn't that way when I bought mine.
Yeah.
That's nice. So the one that we used to have was almost think like a burrito.
Mm-hmm. So there was no ability to put a hard drive in it, but then the
plus does give you the hard drive capability. So it could be a cheaper way to step your way in.
And then of course they have different styles of cameras. They have turret,
they have the bullet, they have dome, they have PTZ, and then they have the really small
camera, really about the size of the palm of your hand that come with some different mounting
capabilities. Those are typically going to be powered by USB-C, but you can get some USB-C to
ethernet adapters so that you could technically power via POE.
And then I'm seeing that they've got, because they've got the doorbells now.
They have the ding-dongs.
They're looking very nest or ring.
Yes.
They also have, because of that, they have the smart chime and the protect flood light.
They do have the flood light, yes. That's a new one.
Ooh, and an all-in-one sensor.
Yes. It really is all-in-one. I mean, it picks up motion, temperature, humidity, lighting.
Oh my gosh.
It can tell you the state of whether the door is open or closed. In one of the videos, they show
it on your garage door.
Wait, how's it doing that?
And it's capable of-
I'm not seeing an external. It's not doing a
contact. I don't see. Okay. I think it's using the, on an internal door window, I do believe it is
using the motion sensor to determine that. On a garage door, it's obviously using the motion.
Yeah. So if you look at, in the box, you see some extra pieces that I think are helping with that.
And then if you get the three-pack, you also see the motion sensor.
Yes, you do.
In the north with your basements that could be filling with water right now.
I will tell you, I wish I had one of these in my garage.
I had a loose connection come up on my water line that was dripping, and I didn't notice it until
some of the carpet in the house was a little soaked.
Did I ever tell you about mine when we did our remodel of our kitchen at our old house?
It's sounding vaguely familiar, yes.
So we did our remodel at our old house, and they had to do some stuff in the area around the
water heater.
Okay.
But it was like, you know, no big deal. They painted these walls. They put some new,
had to replace some tiles and then put some new baseboards in and stuff like that.
We go to camp, and on our drive back from camp, we get a very excited text from a friend of mine
who had just happened to be staying in our house when he was driving through.
And he said he woke up and went into our kitchen and there was water all over the place.
Not good.
And what had happened was, what had happened was, when one of the workers had thrown a nail into
one of the baseboards, it nicked the water line going into the water heater, but did not break it.
It just weakened it.
It just weakened it. And then, you know how those brass water lines just vibrated?
The water lines just vibrate very slightly and very quickly.
It had finally, that little nail had worn its way through.
And that thing shot a stream of water so high-pressured through the drywall,
and it was just spraying across the room.
I don't doubt it.
Anyway, it was a crazy thing. And also so grateful that my friend was there, or we would have been in serious trouble.
So, water sensors.
They can be important.
Not just for the people in the North, I guess.
Yeah, so I have one now in my garage.
I want to put one behind my washer.
And I did have a small leak under the kitchen sink, so I wouldn't mind putting one in there as well.
But these are really nice, really simple.
They just work.
And then the other thing that they have...
What did you just say?
They just work.
Yes.
It's like a PC. They just work.
Oh. Anyway.
And then the last thing that they have in here, which I guess kind of fits, is what they call a viewport.
And that has to do with the fact that this is your camera system for security.
It basically plugs into your monitor, and then the other side plugs into the network,
and it lets you see your camera feeds.
I will say, that's so thoughtful.
Yes.
Because the other ways to do this are just a headache.
Yeah.
But just being able to have a monitor, and you plug an HDMI into it, and you're like,
well, there it is.
Here's your view. Have a good day.
See you later.
Yes. So...
I think that was pretty much it.
I don't think there's anything...
It's amazing to have one ecosystem that all the things all work together so seamlessly.
And we're not done yet.
Yeah.
We're not done yet.
Sorry, I was being pointed.
Now I have Monty Python in my head.
I'm not dead yet.
Yes.
Yes, there we go. Let's move along.
Yep.
I said we get into access.
So access being the door side of things.
These are your remotely connected doors to be able to turn them, make their schedules
or whatever, but also to be able to just use a fob to get inside.
Think your magnet door.
Or with identity.
You get in with your phone now.
You just get in with your phone.
Don't even have to have a fob.
It's a beautiful thing.
I mean...
It's a beautiful thing.
We haven't talked about... You can't be talking about identity.
We haven't talked about identity.
Well...
Have we?
No, we haven't. But it does kind of tag into this.
Yes.
So they have their standard door control hub.
When we first looked at this, that was a little bit of a disappointment.
Yes, it was.
And that it only controls a single door.
Yeah.
We really had thought, man, you should be able to control more than one.
Yeah. I don't want to buy one of these each time.
Per door.
No, it's not good.
But they heard us.
They did. It's like they were listening.
They heard the lamentations of their people.
Yes. Thank you for that.
Yes. And so they came out with the door control hub enterprise.
Yes.
Which can handle up to eight doors.
Now, depending on your situation, if you're retrofitting,
you may have to extend some cabling, depending on how it was run.
But again, in theory, that could potentially...
You could put one of those per building, depending on how many doors you have,
and you're good to go.
So they have various key fob readers.
And the reference there to phone reader for identify.
They have a gate control.
So if you had a gate with connectivity, you can control that.
They have an elevator.
They have an elevator controller kit.
Which is kind of nice.
Guys, we are not that fancy.
We have a couple of elevators here.
Yeah, but we're not controlling entrance into them.
You will be.
That's the wrong voice.
That was Emperor with Yoda.
That's not a good mix.
RIP.
You will be.
I can't do the phones.
I am still so torn up.
That hurt my heart.
It really did.
Goodness.
Yes.
And then...
And then intercom.
Intercom, yes.
And intercom viewer.
Yes.
You can have the viewer inside, intercom outside with a camera on it, and you can see.
And you can buzz them in.
Love it.
Yes.
How many places is this helpful for?
Answer all of them.
All of them, yes.
And this is capable of reusing a lot of existing hardware if you have existing access control.
Or if you don't have it, they sell the additional pieces like you need for the door magnets,
the strike locks.
I think I said that.
That's right.
Yes.
So they have all the pieces, or you can retrofit an existing system.
And again, all of this can be controlled from that same single pane of glass.
Really, really nice.
It is.
It's like they planned it.
No big deal.
Yeah.
Okay.
So from there, the last thing that is...
I kind of got these out of order, so I'll move it.
But the last thing that really kind of is baked into the single pane of glass is what they call Connect.
Yeah.
And Connect...
Oh, we didn't talk about Talk, did we?
No, we did not.
Okay, let's talk quickly about it.
Quickly about Talk.
Great call.
Somehow I missed that.
Talk is one of those, like, well, almost duh.
Of course, you're going to have a phone system.
What has been really impressive to me is that even before they had all of the door access
capability of the intercom and everything like that, they were already thinking this is the
direction that they were going.
And you can tell by the phone TouchMax and phone Touch, they have a dumbed down version,
which I don't actually see on this list.
I see why I missed it.
It's somehow Talk is buried under new integration.
Yeah.
That's how I missed it.
But all that to say, the two that they're touting,
yeah, as the TouchMax and the Touch, they actually have one that we have a bunch of,
and I don't see it.
Maybe that's...
I think they...
They've got that.
Well, the Basic was just a regular phone, no touchscreen.
But the touchscreen has been fantastic because you can actually also, like, you can connect
your desk phone to be able to see your cameras.
Yes, you can.
Or to be able to see, like, the intercom side of things.
And all of that integration then just then lays itself in the same place as what you're
doing with your phone.
They also came out with the analog telephone adapter.
So if you need to use...
We have this for fax machines.
Yes.
We haven't actually put together yet.
Don't...
But we use this for fax machines to be able to plug into our...
Plug our...
Fax machines.
Well, our copiers.
Copiers, there you go.
Through the RJ11 into this to then be able to go over the...
The RJ45.
RJ45.
RJ11 to RJ45.
Yes.
Because I saw an RJ11 plug in one of our walls the other day.
I was like, oh, I didn't know there was a network...
That's not a network drop.
That's too small.
Where do we still have a network drop?
We have a network drop.
That's too small. Where do we still have a phone line plugged in?
In the main office where the fax machine used to be.
On that other wall.
I was looking for...
Because we're moving that other wall.
Anyway, this is insider talk.
Anyway, sorry about that.
These are things you don't want to know about, I'm sure.
But we are changing some things.
And so I saw an RJ11 on the wall when I was looking for an RJ45
and then realized that's too small.
Anyway.
Two pair, not four pair.
Mercy.
And they've got...
Sorry.
So talk, really neat, able to connect through your setup on your...
Again, single pane of glass to be able to see all of your phone setups,
to be able to configure that however you need to,
to be able to take in all of the lines that you need to,
to then be able to split those across.
Correct.
All of the different...
To keep the nerd references going, you realize what they've done.
I mean, other than...
They have created the one ring to roll them all.
Yeah, we're cranking up the nerd knob, folks.
Oh, man. Sorry about that.
No, I'm not. We know who our people are.
If you've made it this far, then us referencing Lord of the Rings is not your biggest problem.
Correct.
Okay, so now that we've talked about that,
the other things inside of this new integration tab that we actually
were talking about with Connect, this Internet of Things.
Yes. So they offer their own 21.5-inch display
that can just simply plug into the network and be controlled.
And that's cool. Don't get me wrong.
But what I'm interested in is the DisplayCast Pro.
Why are you having a hard time with that?
I guess it really kind of depends on how you want to deliver your content.
Because...
75-inch TV, that's how I want to deliver my content.
But you can do that with...
I can't speak.
You can do that with a DisplayCast.
Because it will make any TV digital sign-in.
Sorry, I went Pro because it was the next one that I saw.
But yes, they have a DisplayCast that's not Pro.
Why wouldn't you want a Pro?
The Pro is kind of its own fully integrated solution.
Yes.
You can put all your content in it.
You can have all the playlists and all the things.
And so in theory, that TV could be truly independent.
Whereas with the DisplayCast, it can have playlists,
but its content has to come from someplace else.
Yeah.
And the DisplayCast Pro can get its content from other places.
It can, yes.
It's just always good to have a safety.
I have found, as an AV professional,
that having content downloaded on the machine is always safer.
Oh, by far.
But I get what you're saying.
Yes.
Yeah, because we actually ran into that at the most recent staff retreat.
Did you?
Yes.
We got the video we needed.
We got it on the Mac Mini.
It was ready to roll.
This next day, storms come through.
The bridge goes down.
And we were so thankful we had the content local on the machine.
We had the content local on the Mini, because otherwise we'd have been hosed.
Yeah.
No, that happens.
Mercy.
So that's Connect.
And again, Connect is fully managed from your Dream Machine of choice.
Yeah.
Also, they have this, you can have it for EV stations, which I'm like, holy cow.
I purposely chose not to put that on the list.
I'm sorry, man.
I got to say it.
They've got it.
It's there.
I don't know.
Anyway, don't get me wrong.
I love that.
You didn't talk about the power amp, which I am wanting to put in all of our...
We're not there yet.
Oh, is that not in Connect?
Now you've got me questioning.
I didn't think it was.
I think it's under just the custom integration piece.
Oh, OK.
I think you're going to be able to connect to it through Connect.
Sorry, that was painful.
Until we get one, I don't know how it shows up.
Exactly.
But we're going to have all the devices.
You go buy one of those.
I'll buy the Audio Sigma.
Don't worry.
And we'll come back and discuss it in a future show.
He did just saddle me with the high dollar option here.
I know exactly what I did.
Well, technically, you wouldn't be spending your money.
You would be spending the church's money.
I think the church would make me spend my money on this.
I'm just saying.
We're not quite there yet.
But this thing is fancy.
You have to buy one as a proof of concept.
I do.
It's part of our R&D budget, which we don't actually have.
There you go.
But the power amp is legit.
I showed it to a friend of ours, and he wept a little bit.
That's just hard to deal with, man.
When you see it and you're like, oh, that's what I wanted.
That's what I want.
I want to be able to say that the speakers in this room are playing that music,
and the speakers in this room are playing that music.
And it's got enough power to drive all this.
Dang it.
For our listeners at home, thanks Sonos.
Thanks Sonos.
That's a good way to put it.
Yes.
But you know, cooler.
All right.
So now we get into some of their accessories and miscellaneous.
Power.
Power amp is under power.
It doesn't necessarily have to be there.
We can always move it.
So in particular, they have the Rackmount PDU.
I am a huge fan.
I have this at home.
Absolutely.
Do you?
I do.
I didn't know you had that.
I do.
Like the PDU Pro or just?
Yes, because I don't have the large option.
OK.
Which is their most recent one, which is designed
to go vertically in a like a large 42U style.
The high density one?
Yes.
Look at that.
That's huge.
It is.
Oh my gosh.
Yes.
So yeah, I have the...
Where'd you go, friend?
I want that.
Yeah.
I have the PDU Pro.
I want the high density.
And I named mine indoor shield generator.
Look at you.
Of course I did.
Star Wars.
Of course you did.
So absolutely love it.
And what is an amazing feature of it is when it detects a problem with your internet connection,
it has the ability to power cycle the power plug that you said the modem is on
in an attempt to restore your connection.
Nice.
And it has come in handy a few times.
It just does that.
It just does it automagically.
Automagically.
Yes, I said it.
You did not.
I said it.
All right.
I'm looking at this NEMA L530 plug.
Like why are you trying to kill me?
Come on, guys.
You're looking at the high density?
Yeah.
It's...
Oh wow.
Okay.
Well, that's something to dream about.
It has USB-C ports.
It does.
But the Power Distribution Pro is the one that you have and it is also fantastic.
Look at that.
It is.
So 100Mb RJ45 to Gigabit RJ45.
Yes.
The 100Mb is basically the link into the network because you don't necessarily need
a full Gigabit link to manage this thing.
And it's got its USB-C ports too.
Correct.
It has USB-C.
Is this just hanging out next to your bed?
No, it's in the rack.
Everything's in the rack.
Everything's in your rack.
In the closet.
Also known as the Cluedio.
The Cluedio.
Yes.
So highly recommend it if you are looking for a really nice power distribution.
It does take up to you just because of the way that they kind of laid out some of the ports.
But it is a really nice product.
One you of it is that 16 remotely resettable power outlets that are just stacked on each other.
That's a you by itself.
With the four USB-C.
And then the second you, you get the nice little touch screen along with four additional ports
that were spaced out for large bricks.
Spaced out reasonably because they know what power looks like now.
Yes.
Gone are the days of the power cords.
Correct.
Being able to be set next to each other.
Correct.
And then the other thing that they offer in this power line, this really plays into
like the dream machine that you referenced that could do multiple power supply.
Some of their switches fall into that line.
They have their power backup.
It's 950 watt redundant power supply.
There is a cable that plugs into the back of this unit and then plugs into your equipment.
You can plug multiple devices into it to give them the redundant power supply without it having to
be in the actual product, which helps them with keeping the amount of equipment that they're
putting in a given device as small as possible.
I like it.
That's thinking about failover and all of that.
Yes.
I don't have to.
Yes.
And so then we jump into what essentially is miscellaneous.
You can get indoor outdoor rated cable.
It's going to be shielded, which is nice, especially for outdoor applications.
They have pre-terminated to different length patch cables.
They do have ethernet surge, which we are to my knowledge still using in the student building.
That kind of goes in line.
And then this little repeater thing is quite interesting.
It gives you the ability to extend up to a kilometer or half a mile,
but you have to place these at no more than 100 meters or 328 feet apart.
So you can do essentially up to 10 of them and extend your network reach.
Now, I would like to say, hey, if you want to do that, just run some fiber.
Yeah, guys.
Guys, but if you're in a pinch and all you have is copper laying around, knock yourself out.
I mean, you've got copper laying around, but you can go buy 10 of these long range ethernet
repeaters instead of buying fiber.
I think this was very much a, you can't run copper that far.
Oh, really?
Watch me.
Hold my beer.
Yes.
So.
Indeed.
Yes.
Wow.
So that's kind of a rough overview, if you will.
Make sure I didn't forget anything.
We definitely could have, but at the same time.
That is it.
That is it, folks.
That was a lot.
Deep, deep, deep, deep.
That's all, folks.
Coming back next time in two weeks.
Two weeks.
Yes.
We are going to have our first special guest.
Special guest.
Not going to give it away.
Not going to give it away, but we've got some stuff to learn.
So we're bringing in an expert.
This is the official tease.
The tease is I don't know anything about this and I want to.
I know just enough to be dangerous.
Yeah, OK.
That's where I'm at.
I know enough to know that I don't know anything.
So special guest, you know who you are.
Yeah.
Get ready.
Be prepared.
We'll try to figure out a special.
Because otherwise you're going to let the people down.
New Zealand is over there just freaking out about being let down by this.
Sorry, New Zealand.
No, it'll be great.
Super excited about it.
And we'll have to figure out a special beer to celebrate.
Oh, that's right.
We do need to find a good one.
Celebratory beer.
Not the Rasputin.
No, I'm afraid not Rasputin.
The Obsidian's not bad.
It's not bad.
It's just not good.
It's hard, man.
We're coming off of like really good beer.
That triple mash was amazing.
I'm not going to lie.
I just, you just, it's hard to like, it's hard after that to even.
It's like going to Bernard's for dinner.
Yeah.
And then the next day you've got to go to McDonald's.
And it's like these two things just do not line up.
No, they really don't.
What a disappointment.
I think you'll like the Dunkle.
No, I'm sure I will.
Just didn't get to it.
All right.
Well, I think that's it.
Yeah.
We'll see you next time.
Thanks for hanging out, man.
Enjoyed it, man.
See you, everybody.
See you.
Okay.
I've been waiting for this moment for months and it's finally here.
I'm finally going to get a heritage unit unit on camera.
Yeah.
All right.
Look at that.
A 1953 E8.
Oh yeah.
Listen to that bell.
Yeah.
Listen to that bell.
Take a look at that.
Oh my God.
Oh, she's beautiful.
She is beautiful.
Yeah.
All right.
Oh my.
Oh, no.
It's a PL2 too.
Oh, the SNC 52.
Oh my God.
Oh, we're going to watch this.
Oh, this is special.
This is special.
Oh, that horn gives me the chills.
And the chills have absolutely no effect.
And the chills have absolutely nothing to do with how cold it is here.
But that doesn't stop a foamer.
Especially when it comes to heritage equipment.
Oh, this is fantastic.
Oh, oh my goodness.
Look at that.
Blue and gray.
Oh, coupled to the Iowa Pacific number 518.
Woohoo!
Ah ha!
Wow!
Listen to that horn.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Oh my gosh.
Look at that.
All right.
I wonder who TC Durant is.
Oh, well.
Wow, this is just awesome.