1 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:38,520 Hey there. Hey everybody. How you doing Chris? Throat's a little rough from talking but 2 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:44,160 You got a great radio voice right now. I do right now baby. Yeah. Please don't call me 3 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:54,880 baby. You're getting me excited over here. Okay. Bro, you're tired. Oh yeah. I'm tired. 4 00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:02,240 We are, we, this is, this is gonna be an interesting show. Well yeah and then on top of that, that 5 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:10,560 beer. Yeah so what is this beer that we're drinking? You want to give us the, the 411 6 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:18,840 from your needs? Well and also from this being a gift. Yes, this is a gift. This is a really 7 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:26,240 nice gift. Man I'm really loving that voice. Maybe I need to talk loud. Wait a minute. 8 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:33,600 Before a show. Yeah this is another Dragon's Mill product from Michigan. Michigan. Michigan 9 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:41,760 baby. Thank you Jason. Yes another huge thank you to Jason. This is their Triple Mash bourbon 10 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:48,080 barrel aged out. I mean if it's bourbon barrel aged I'm usually down. Correct and the others 11 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,160 that I've had from them have been bourbon barrel aged. That's gonna be tough to talk 12 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:59,520 after I've had a few sips of this. Bourbon barrel aged. Yes because this is not your 13 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:06,680 average beer and it's and it's not your average bourbon aged. Typically I've run into those 14 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:14,840 around 10 percent. Kind of that beginning of high gravity. This is 18.7. I mean. So 15 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:26,560 hello. I'm just saying I've been saying for a couple days or the past week or so like 16 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:33,520 I'm ready for some beer. Ready for some good stuff. So I'm glad we're getting to talk today. 17 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:41,680 Yeah yeah yeah. So they say Triple Mash is the ultimate indulgence. The result of years 18 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:47,260 of honing technique. I'm having trouble reading tonight. I guess I'm that tired. In pushing 19 00:02:47,260 --> 00:02:57,040 the limits of what a stout can be. Well there you go. I'll take it. I'll take it. So yeah 20 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,720 this I think this is gonna be pretty good. We'll have to pace ourselves a little bit. 21 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:14,040 Yeah. So pour the beer. Do the honors. Yeah I've had better on the sound. Better on the 22 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:20,720 sound. Better on the sound for sure. Better on the mic. Well you know. Alright. Still 23 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,720 want to work on getting some etching on these glasses. Yeah. No I think I think we got to 24 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:32,520 get that that gear on the side. I need to talk again. The recurring resource for the 25 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:40,320 show I need to talk to Jason. Yeah Jason. His wife I believe does. Jason is an unofficial 26 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:49,160 sponsor. Yeah he's a. This episode brought to you by. Unofficial producer. Jason. So 27 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:54,280 although I will shame him a little bit. He hadn't set a boost in a while. Shame. I know 28 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,580 he's listening. Shame Jason. Shame on you. Well I bet he's like well I'm the only one 29 00:03:58,580 --> 00:04:04,200 sending these so. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. I know he's not the only one listening. Speaking 30 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:13,160 of listening. I can confirm that Michael Moore is listening. Yes. So sorry about what I said 31 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:19,400 in the last one of your boss not listening. My bad. That was the previous boss. That was 32 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:26,600 the previous boss. We weren't talking about you Michael. No no no. Hey thanks for listening. 33 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:34,120 Okay what does this smell like? Oh it smells delicious. Oh. I'm in trouble because I mean 34 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,080 I we were supposed to pace this and that I will tell you for everybody who's. That's 35 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,600 good. I'm wondering if you should go pick one of these up like that smells great. Well. 36 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:49,000 And by go pick this up I mean order it. Jason found and I'm not recommending that we do 37 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:55,640 this but I'd be willing to split. He found somebody that was selling a 24 pack. Okay. 38 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:02,000 130 bucks. It's a little stout on the price but it's not your average beer. Oh my goodness. 39 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,840 Because I mean if you drink the whole bottle. Yeah clean. That's like drinking four normal 40 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:14,080 beers. Yeah. So. Goodness. Man it smells good. So each of us are drinking two right now. 41 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:25,800 Oh. Yeah that's not bad. Oh that is smooth. Okay well. Especially for bourbon barrel aged. 42 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:32,840 Guys we may not have much of a show. We're just gonna sit here and smack our lips at 43 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:43,640 this. I apologize in advance for any slurring of my words. Beer. So all you're saying is 44 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:50,800 last week. Yeah. Last week we got to talk about some of the challenges that we face 45 00:05:50,800 --> 00:06:02,480 as I.T. support individuals. You know part of that being just the nature of I.T. now 46 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:10,060 and in terms of the amount of change that happens in a single year from month to month 47 00:06:10,060 --> 00:06:18,600 with gear and service ability and softwares and everything needing to interact with each 48 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,280 other and there's there's so many options but also because of those options there's 49 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:31,360 also less options in a lot of ways for some things and it makes it hard to be an expert 50 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:37,280 on everything. Correct. So being able to Google is kind of your best friend. Yeah you become 51 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:44,040 a jack of all trades. I did I did find myself the other day. I mean y'all can all probably 52 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:52,500 relate to this. I found myself texting Chris a question and then you know he's in meetings 53 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:57,560 and he's doing his own thing and I realized like I should just Google this instead of 54 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:04,560 asking my friend. I'm expecting you to have all the answers like right at the tip of your 55 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,880 finger. Yeah right. My fingertips. Fingertips but you know so do I. So yeah anyway Google 56 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,080 definitely can be a friend. Have we talked about let me Google that for you. You remember 57 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:20,120 that. I think we did. For those of you that don't know there was a service there for a 58 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,600 while that you like was whatever the letters are for the first letters for let me Google 59 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:32,960 that for you and you could go to their website and type in a search and then it would give 60 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:38,760 you a link to share with somebody where basically you shared it with them and when they clicked 61 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,640 on it it took them to Google and typed in the question that they asked you. Yeah. And 62 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:50,440 then gave them the results. Which I think is pretty snarky but also some people kind 63 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,440 of need it. It's a teaching opportunity. It is a teaching opportunity. You are able to 64 00:07:54,440 --> 00:08:03,200 do this. You are. You can do this. I'm not going to use the E word but you are helping 65 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:09,000 them. Yeah. The E word. Thank you. Well people who are listening know me know the E word 66 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:17,080 that I don't like. We're not going to use that word. No. But anyway so you know that 67 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:22,600 that's a catch 22 because then people get like half answers when they Google for themselves. 68 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:29,120 Yeah. And when you don't know the pitfalls of what you're looking at on a screen that's 69 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:35,080 telling you to do one thing and kind of the reality of what you're getting on the other 70 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:43,040 side it makes it difficult sometimes but you've got a lot of semi informed people that you 71 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:50,760 then got to like walk through back through what they did. Yeah. And then you know out 72 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:56,280 to where the real answers are. Yeah. And that makes it difficult for a lot of different 73 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,160 ways. One of the things though that we were talking about just a second ago kind of in 74 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:11,600 relation to Chris just got off of a staff retreat. We had we also had a staff day last 75 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:18,920 week on Wednesday and then I think I have another one coming up in October but it's 76 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:27,120 not a full staff retreat but just some making sure that we have certain conversations anytime 77 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:34,040 I.T. guys I feel like are usually introverted. Not always the case. You extroverts out there 78 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:43,000 that are listening. Grateful for you. Yes. You're weird. But like a lot of times the 79 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,080 staff meetings like you said exactly what I was expecting whenever I asked you about 80 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:53,440 it it's like well this is put on by extroverts. Yes it is. And they're not really thinking 81 00:09:53,440 --> 00:10:00,680 at all about what maybe an introvert would be thinking. No. Inside of this thing. I can 82 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:06,400 share one thing that they did. What they do. Kind of give you an idea is we played Farkel. 83 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:15,200 OK game. No big deal. But they had the losers from every table combined into tables. And 84 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:20,280 so they ultimately got down to the final table. And then you had essentially the ultimate 85 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:28,600 loser. The Farkel tournament. Yeah. So the loser essentially got a hazing and had to 86 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:37,480 dress like a lobster. So the introvert. That does not feel uplifting to me. No no no no. 87 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,440 Why are we doing this. The introvert me the whole time at that table is like I just don't 88 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,320 want to lose. I just don't want to lose. And I thankfully didn't. Because the idea. I need 89 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,440 to win once. Yeah. Yeah. All I need to do is win one time and I'm out and I'm safe. 90 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:58,360 So that is not something that introverts would do to other people. No. Because we're considerate. 91 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:05,360 Yes we are. And we don't hate you. Extroverts are like let's all laugh at somebody and the 92 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:10,380 introverts are like I wouldn't want that to be me. No. So why would I make somebody else 93 00:11:10,380 --> 00:11:22,480 do that. You people. So that's terrible. Yeah. I'm calling it. Extroverts are immoral. Just 94 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:31,960 immoral godless Philistines. All of you. Okay sorry that was a joke. That's severe talking. 95 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:40,080 There you go. No. But it does seem like that's you know kind of a funny thing that happens 96 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,840 whenever you know you put the life of the party in charge of the party is sounds going 97 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:53,840 to get awkward for those of us that don't really want to be at the party. But we one 98 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,240 of the things that this reminded me of is actually like I was I was having to I was 99 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:03,600 having to work during our staff meeting. I don't know if you had to do any problem solving 100 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:11,280 or any support stuff while you were at staff retreat. When the rain came through yesterday 101 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,680 I took down the bridge. So yeah we had to go fix that. But like that's that's I feel 102 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:21,360 like we're always on call with stuff like that. And I mean this just the nature of what 103 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:33,360 I'm doing right now I cannot be out of the office for six hours and not have fallen way 104 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,560 behind and then I don't have time to catch up. Like there's no margin. Correct. Right 105 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:45,640 now. So I it's a season not always going to be this way. Grateful for that. But also it's 106 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:51,240 just the way that it is. And when you're in those situations where you're he just wowed 107 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:58,920 and that's just when you're in those situations where you are maybe you know like we're going 108 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:06,040 to do this neat thing and not be at the office. But we still need to be able to be productive. 109 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:16,360 Yes. This is a good segue into mobile IT. Yes. Take it away Chris. Here we go. Thank 110 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:23,880 you. Yeah a lot of this obviously got pushed through the whole covid thing. And that's 111 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:29,760 when you found out who was prepared and who wasn't. Whether that was when that time it 112 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:35,160 was everybody obviously working from home. Eventually it was teams rotating in and out 113 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:41,840 of the office and then just trying to figure out how all that works. That's when you start 114 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:52,440 to see some of the limitations of traditional IT. Whether that be things like Active Directory. 115 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:59,460 You know that is such a premise driven piece of the puzzle. Yeah. And we found ourselves 116 00:13:59,460 --> 00:14:05,760 a couple of times with people having trouble being able to log in and we did some fun tricks 117 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:11,800 of remoting into their computer and connecting a VPN and then doing a switch user and it 118 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,640 authenticated against Active Directory and we got them back in and it was like here you 119 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,000 go. Hopefully we don't have to go through this again. And if you followed that that's 120 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,160 why you're listening to this show. Yes. I probably went a little far down the rabbit 121 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:30,240 hole. That was great. That was perfect. So but all that to say that you know as you become 122 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:35,920 more mobile you do have to not necessarily reinvent the wheel but you've got to rethink 123 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:41,520 what you're doing. And so when I was initially presented with that I was clinging to Active 124 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,160 Directory with everything that I had. I'm like no no no no no no no this is business. 125 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:50,080 This is the way it works. This is the way it's always been. And so just having to let 126 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:56,640 go and you start getting into cloud based directories. There's a lot of options out 127 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:03,680 there really opens up your ability to let your staff be anywhere. Love the idea that 128 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:11,240 I could send you a laptop. You may be halfway around the world. It arrives. All you need 129 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:16,880 is basic Wi-Fi and you've got your log in and you're right into that system. It goes 130 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:24,880 right into the management starts pushing applications and you're off and running instead of me 131 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,640 having to ship it to me. Get it connected directory. Push all the applications either 132 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:38,040 manually or through our internal pieces. Package it up. Ship it to you. And then see OK what 133 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,960 potential issues do we run into when you take this thing out of the box and you're halfway 134 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:48,720 around the world. So that's that's really game changing that really enables you to be 135 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:58,120 a small team but still be incredibly nimble and able to support your staff anywhere they 136 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:07,320 are. Zoom obviously became a big a big piece of some of a mobile workforce. Obviously there's 137 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:14,720 other things like Google Meets and you could still guide Microsoft Teams. All of these 138 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:22,960 are viable but it has become a big piece of a mobile mobile workforce because you're not 139 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:28,040 necessarily always going to be in a physical location that's going to have a meeting room 140 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:35,440 with hardware. Yeah it's less and less of a thing. Yeah. Now I will say when you do have 141 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:42,400 meeting rooms and people still sit at their desks and connect in I'm going we have a we 142 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:48,240 have a room right there. Beautiful TV beautiful hardware big old TV. Go do that. Yeah. I've 143 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:53,960 got 15 of you sitting here all with this connection clogging up the Wi-Fi clogging up the Internet 144 00:16:53,960 --> 00:17:01,520 connection. Do everybody a favor. Go to that room. Yeah. One connection instead of 15. 145 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,560 Everybody's happy especially your IT team. So that is one of those things that it's just 146 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,840 kind of like that's it. That's an education piece of like I know this is just what you're 147 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,160 used to but when you're here take advantage of that. That's why that's why they're here. 148 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,120 Yeah. It's different if you're truly are remote and you've got to get in. But see that's a 149 00:17:20,120 --> 00:17:24,400 and this is part of what I want to talk about is just like the knowledge to be able to say 150 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:33,520 like I know like people know like they they look for a Wi-Fi connection. Yes. If they 151 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:39,200 need a password they know that the ones with passwords are the better ones and an open 152 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,920 network than an open network. So they want the password protected one. Yes. They know 153 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,720 to do all of that. They know they they're going to ask you what your Wi-Fi password 154 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:53,080 is there. They're going to want to be on it and they know when Wi-Fi is good and when 155 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:59,400 it's bad like they know all of that but they don't know why. So there's like this there's 156 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:06,120 that disconnect again that that IT professionals are having to kind of step through inside 157 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:12,280 of it where they're saying like I know you understand part of this from the experience 158 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:19,640 side of it. But let me tell you what would help with that. Let me let me let me walk 159 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:29,760 you into this space and and and so let me just give up a practical here from last week 160 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:35,760 with the two of us. Yeah. We have to talk through budget stuff every year. Everybody 161 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:42,760 does. And so we were getting Chris and I were getting asked questions about why we went 162 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:49,320 with a certain solution or why why it wasn't even why we went with a certain solution. 163 00:18:49,320 --> 00:19:00,960 It was why we think these things that we think we need to purchase are better than maybe 164 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:08,920 ones that cost less. Sure. And so then then you have to go through I was getting a little 165 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:17,440 flustered actually in the meeting and I think Chris knows that Chris for those of you that 166 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:23,840 know Chris and I mean I'm just going to go and say it on here. So I've said it. He's 167 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:36,040 incredibly patient and I say that in humility because like I I lose patience really quickly 168 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:44,440 inside of answering questions when I feel like the person asking questions doesn't either 169 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:55,400 isn't listening or is sticking to an idea that we've moved past or something like that. 170 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:01,160 Not so with my friend across the table. Anyway so we were we were trying to explain like 171 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,920 you know if somebody asks you these questions or if these these things are being questioned 172 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:13,520 like there's there are reasons behind both what we've chosen and what we are suggesting 173 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:21,160 for the future that have you know a lot of explanations attached to them. This is hours 174 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:27,320 and hours of research that's that's gone into this from not just this year but like years 175 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:38,160 before. So we chose the hardware that we've kind of implemented across this organization 176 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:47,520 because of the desire for the staff to be more mobile and there are certain offerings 177 00:20:47,520 --> 00:21:02,840 that are out there when it comes to setting up your network that are more pliable to mobility. 178 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:09,240 I think this is a this is a trend we're going to see further down the line but there's there 179 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:14,680 are of course people that who who have decided like we really need to be in that space and 180 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:23,120 so most of what they're innovating on are those things. We chose one of those a long 181 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:33,160 time ago. Yes. I mean goodness was that 2017 was that was it that long ago? Hard for me 182 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,360 to remember. It was before I well no because when I first started I'm trying to remember 183 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:45,640 what year has it been five five years since I started because I know it was pre-COVID. 184 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:51,560 I don't know so it's been five possibly six. So either 2019 or 2018. Yeah something in 185 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:58,160 that range and so yeah when I got here we still had a lot of the all the Dell Sonic 186 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:05,560 wall. We had a lot of Dell. We had a lot of Sonic wall. We also had a lot of Linksys. 187 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,320 Yes it was it was typical of what you would see when there hasn't been a lot of focus 188 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:15,440 on IT. It's right. It's patched together. I mean the firewall was not a bad firewall. 189 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:21,840 Don't get me wrong. Sonic wall is a great product but it really wasn't what the vision 190 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:28,200 was that we were trying to go for and so that's what drove us into into unify. Yeah. Now 191 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,240 you you can sit down with IT guys and pick it apart. Oh yeah. And there's some that are 192 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,800 just adamant against it. It's like it's not a bad product. No. And so it's given us all 193 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,840 the abilities that we've needed and more. It's given us the abilities to be able to 194 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:50,760 manage it from anywhere. Yeah. It's so easy to manage. Yeah. The mobile app is very feature 195 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:56,040 rich. Most of them. I will tell you it's more feature rich than the Meraki app that we use 196 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:03,840 and I love the Meraki app. Yeah. But the unify app has so many more capabilities and features. 197 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:12,800 They're very affordable. You know again you're you're setting yourself up on a unified platform 198 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:18,520 I'm trying to avoid as many buzz terms as I can here. I don't want to be Silicon Valley. 199 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,160 But it was it was the right choice. It was the right decision. You don't want to be piecemeal. 200 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,640 You don't want this out of the box best buy experience. Well and you start looking at 201 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:35,440 the more feature rich offerings that are out there and you start to realize how like you're 202 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,400 not just paying for the product you're paying for service agreements you're paying for yes 203 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:46,280 like that that licensing licensing that's that's that's happening every month or year 204 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,160 whatever the drug dealer model is now. Yeah. And you start to be like okay well that like 205 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:56,840 that that's a cost and it adds up and I'm not saying it's not worth it. I'm saying we 206 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,440 didn't have that money correct and we still don't have that money. Correct. And so when 207 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,840 somebody is asking that question they they don't know any of this but they expect to 208 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,520 understand all the decision making that's going into it. Yeah. And I'm always like I 209 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:15,840 don't I don't know what to say at this point. I just need you to understand like we're we're 210 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:25,520 building infrastructure. Yes. And you're talking about changing from PVC to copper pipe. And 211 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:34,040 I'm like why would we do that. Yeah. I mean whatever. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying. 212 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,840 Yes. I don't recommend this if you're trying to explain things ultimately for budget but 213 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:45,360 I think there's truth in this. You just simply ask them do you like the way things work. 214 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:52,140 Do you like the dependability of our network. I know I sure do. I hope you do too. Right. 215 00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:57,680 And so you know we can go back to the old days that you probably don't remember. I do. 216 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:06,200 Yeah I do too. And again you get these staff and users just get so used to things just 217 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,480 constantly working right that they don't notice when it works. You only notice when it's broken 218 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:16,120 and there's a problem. Yeah. And that's ultimately really the way you want your I.T. to be. You 219 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:20,920 don't want to be noticed. No. If you're being noticed something is wrong. Yeah. And so it 220 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:27,220 just keeps coming back to we're solid. You don't have worries. We're not spending an arm 221 00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:32,600 and a leg here. Yeah. We've got a we've got an excellent solution and we want to maintain 222 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:39,120 this. Right. We don't want to go back in any way. No. We want to keep being forward thinking 223 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:46,480 yet with making sure that things work and not waiting until they don't to fix it. Correct. 224 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:53,920 In terms of especially things that that you you can't you can't update all of these pieces 225 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,180 at the same time. You want to update in cycles. And again if you don't if you haven't ever 226 00:25:59,180 --> 00:26:04,280 done and I wish there was a resource for that that I could off the top of my head like point 227 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:12,320 you towards if you don't if you haven't looked at making sure that your update schedule like 228 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:18,880 that number one you have an update schedule and that you are refreshing your devices be 229 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:26,000 it laptops or switches or TVs or whatever it is like so many different things on a regular 230 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,800 basis and not and by regular basis I mean like I mean it could be anywhere from three 231 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,120 to ten years depending on the life of the product or anything like that but but that 232 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:39,880 you are thinking about that before it happens especially if these are certain products that 233 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:45,240 you have certain solutions I won't even say products certain solutions that you have a 234 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:55,120 lot of I'm having a hard time not just finishing because that beer is so good. It is anyway 235 00:26:55,120 --> 00:27:10,240 darn you Chris darn you Jason. Oh no. This is a problem. So like if there's something 236 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,580 that you're relying a lot on or if you just have a whole lot of them like just making 237 00:27:14,580 --> 00:27:27,280 sure that there is a you're thinking about how to not wait for catastrophe correct correct 238 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,760 to be replacing things technology is built by humans humans are flawed therefore our 239 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:40,320 technology is flawed and so are the people using it. Sean Welch. Oh there's no way you're 240 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,520 listening but I'm telling you we've all we all know the guy who spilled something on 241 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:50,720 a computer and a few a few there was there was still Gatorade coming out of that machine 242 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,480 when I was handed to Chris that one was epic yeah you open it up and you just turn it and 243 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,680 it pours out the side and you can still hear the snap crackle pop oh my god because the 244 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:07,540 battery has juice still oh man that that that one was a that was a good one not picking 245 00:28:07,540 --> 00:28:14,080 on him no no no just saying like we it stuff like that happens yeah unfortunately unfortunately 246 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,080 it happens and you've got to be prepared for it as an IT professional correct and whenever 247 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:23,760 possible you want to maintain some kind of spares on the shelf some things are obviously 248 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,680 a little too expensive yeah and you may not be able to but if you can keep a couple extra 249 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:34,440 computers aside if you can keep at least a spare switch you know and a spare access point 250 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,440 yeah you know these things are going to happen good example what we've ran into on at least 251 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:48,480 two occasions AC's have problems and they they leak mm-hmm we have had two access points 252 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:56,960 be killed by AC's because the drain pans overflow and it pours into the access point yeah that's 253 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,840 terrible and you're thinking about like an AC that's that's situated above a ceiling 254 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:07,720 yes and the access point is below it correct that's a bad situation correct and you pull 255 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:13,120 it off and you move the access point and the water literally pours out oh my gosh Chris 256 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,280 I'm having like nightmares right now I'm starting to try to like run through all of our access 257 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:26,280 where are any of those underneath AC units you try to avoid it sure but like oh my gosh 258 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:32,080 no I don't so not off the top of my head but let me tell you what odd things happen I'm 259 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:39,080 gonna be looking at that on her we were building another building before long and I will definitely 260 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,840 logging that in is something I need to look at correct where are you putting me I just 261 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,880 want to know where your AC units are so I can not put access points beneath them yes 262 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:57,040 I yeah yeah and can we please not run major water lines above the server room for the 263 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:05,120 love I mean they know that's not cool like that's a that's a different level right there 264 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:10,600 I don't even want to talk about that we did have a water leak here today that they've 265 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:18,760 been trying to fix over and over and over again with no luck so we're without bathrooms 266 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:28,640 currently just in case that beer hits harder I finished mine now and I'm so sad yeah I'm 267 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:37,600 looking at this last drink and I'm like it's all gone it's all gone Jason you have created 268 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,440 a monster sure the next time he goes to Michigan I'm giving him money yeah like hey bud let 269 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:51,440 me know before you go so I can fund your trip or something that I mean we just I think we're 270 00:30:51,440 --> 00:31:00,440 unanimous y'all if you have the chance to get this Dragon's Milk triple mash do it it's 271 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:09,600 a winner that is worth it it's a winner we were talking about mobile yes oh I actually 272 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:17,680 had a moment today and you'll appreciate this because we know this we both know this situation 273 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:29,920 so we have a staff member who would rather not use their cell phone to call some people 274 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,520 for yeah there's nothing wrong not giving your personal number I totally get it that 275 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:42,680 I mean it makes makes all kinds of sense but we as an organization have not in the past 276 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:48,080 really provided another way and rest it's just kind of always been understood if you 277 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:54,320 need to call somebody and you're not at church or not on the property then you need to use 278 00:31:54,320 --> 00:32:03,680 your personal device to do that yeah but again unify has a has an offering for this and so 279 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,040 we were testing it and I thought we actually rolled it out to her but talked to her today 280 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:14,120 and she has not experienced that I was I was talking to her about another problem that 281 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:25,420 she was having or this individual was having and trying to figure out like there's honestly 282 00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:33,000 it's just a she has a software that she uses and I was trying to it she had gotten an error 283 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:40,320 whenever she tried to email people using the software and it's very obviously at least 284 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:49,480 in my opinion that the password has changed like her email password has changed and I 285 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:55,440 just could not find for the life of me was sitting there for a good 15 or 20 minutes 286 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:04,840 scrolling through menus could not for the life of me find where I could update that 287 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,880 so I was like you're gonna have to call their support but in the midst of like figuring 288 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:17,080 out what was actually going on and why they're having this issue I'm hearing like a conversation 289 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:23,960 between this individual and her supervisor and they're they're talking about like how 290 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,520 oh well no you can't do that like you got to make sure that you're up here if you're 291 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:34,400 wanting to do that or this or whatever and I was like no you don't and the supervisor 292 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:40,720 was like what are you talking about I was like oh we can like you can we'll just set 293 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:47,320 up a VPN like you can you don't have to be here to be on our network yeah and she was 294 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,840 like what are you talking about and so like the just that moment of like oh yeah like 295 00:33:52,840 --> 00:34:04,120 we've we have made this system able to work for you in so many different ways and somehow 296 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:12,680 you are unaware of how flexible we've made everything yeah I appreciate that you did 297 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:23,160 not beat down my door asking for the capability to change somebody's hours without having 298 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:30,960 to be on property to do it but let me tell you like that's super easy now yes it is and 299 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,800 I would love to walk you through yeah absolutely but it was like things like that and the like 300 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,920 the soft phone technology and everything like that to be able to use your business line 301 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:49,560 not on property yep or from your cell phone and things like that that it's like this is 302 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:57,040 why we like we work so hard to build an infrastructure that can support this yes and then you got 303 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,960 to like flesh it out so there are things like that that have just been really like spinning 304 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:10,400 around in my mind especially and this is not supposed to be like a unifier ubiquity like 305 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:16,520 commercial like I'm not that's not what we're doing with this is just the tool that we chose 306 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:22,240 to use and because of the capabilities that it has we were able to do some of these things 307 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:30,580 and able to like walk through different requests that are being made yeah because of the necessity 308 00:35:30,580 --> 00:35:40,840 of or not necessity of because of the nature of having a more mobile staff yes of having 309 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:49,700 a more nimble organization in terms of where you can get stuff done I cannot tell you how 310 00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:54,760 many people I've been talking to about our property and be like oh no like I schedule 311 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,120 all the locks and ACs but if you have a problem just text me and I will make sure that it 312 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,520 gets changed I can do that remotely and they're like whoa that's incredible I'm like no it's 313 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:13,160 not the the world that we live in now yeah it's kind of expected this is expected absolutely 314 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,040 I mean I used to laugh with Colson all the time about how everybody freaks out now over 315 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,360 QR codes we've got to have QR codes everything has to have a QR code why don't we have a 316 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,400 QR code on that and we need to make a QR code for this or whatever and wouldn't it be neat 317 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:31,680 if we had a QR code for that and I'm like are you kidding me this is we're talking about 318 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:40,680 like technology from 2005-06 yeah maybe eight I don't know like whatever the thing on that 319 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:50,480 was I'm like I that's at least 15 years ago why are we why are we why are we not talking 320 00:36:50,480 --> 00:37:01,000 about NFC I mean at least that's seven years ago yep but which by the way I did find you 321 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:06,560 know because we're always asked for signage that has QR codes on it I found signage that 322 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:14,320 found signage I got advertised signage that has NFC on it I was like man I'm gonna blow 323 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:21,040 these QR code people's minds just hold your phone next to it yeah just give it a light 324 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:30,220 tap no big deal anyway yeah yeah I we talk about the ease of unifying you know we could 325 00:37:30,220 --> 00:37:36,480 achieve some of these other things you know you could piece mill it you could do a pfc 326 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:42,040 of sense firewall mm-hmm it's a great great product you can either buy their appliance 327 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:47,760 or do your own mm-hmm and then you can set up something like an open VPN mm-hmm and run 328 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,720 the open VPN client and you've got to download all the configuration files and get everything 329 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:59,640 going for people there's ways to put all this together but when you can choose a platform 330 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:05,760 that just kind of takes care of all the pieces for you you have as close to a single pane 331 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,880 of glass to manage it it makes your life so much easier and you don't have to go to ten 332 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:17,680 different places just to make simple things work for your staff mm-hmm and that is huge 333 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:24,640 when you have a very small team you have a lot of work to achieve and you have a finite 334 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,960 amount of time to put all this together and to take care of everybody welcome the most 335 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:35,760 IT yeah like that I mean you just what you just described I'm like everybody expects 336 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:42,360 one IT professional to be able to take care of I don't know how many people I think the 337 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:51,400 last that I had seen in a lot of places it's been anywhere one person from anywhere from 338 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:59,840 250 to 500 people oh and that's insane to think of like that made me want to throw up 339 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:07,560 yeah that's that's a lot of that's not the beer yeah that's that is so much yeah I don't 340 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,720 have a I don't have a place for that in my brain well I think about it you know I mean 341 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:19,640 when we get into the summer you know we've got 200 or so year-round staff and then we've 342 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:27,720 got another 2500 or so college staff who are using shared equipment on the network whether 343 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:34,400 it's a an all-in-one it's a Chromebook whatever it may be I mean and there and not all of 344 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,380 them are on property a good chunk of them are remote with city and city is absolutely 345 00:39:39,380 --> 00:39:46,760 sharing all the resources that they have so you know and there there is one two three 346 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:52,200 of us right now there was four I mean right now if summer was happening there'd be three 347 00:39:52,200 --> 00:40:00,760 of us supporting everybody not just IT but also AV so even when you've got four people 348 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:08,000 and you've got 2500 or so summer staff plus a couple hundred full-time staff we're a very 349 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:17,400 small team helping to support all those people in some way or another I'm dying so like there's 350 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:25,080 all like like my inside of my skull right now there's just screaming yeah because I 351 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:32,580 don't like I don't that cannot be good like I I know like you and I both know what you're 352 00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:38,440 talking about and like what I'm talking about in terms of personnel and whatever but like 353 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:51,240 that that's not a normal thing like that that cannot be what what is expected of sure and 354 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:57,120 then some of that even extends to some degree to Saturday and Sunday when campers are gone 355 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:02,920 and they're trying to utilize their own devices on guest Wi-Fi and they're hey we've got a 356 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:08,200 problem and so you're like well let me see what I can figure out you can only go so far 357 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:15,280 with a personal device I definitely had that feeling today when I was trying to like knock 358 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:21,960 things out of my to-do list and then four more things showed up from non-staff members 359 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:30,000 yeah I was like oh great yeah well I guess I'm never gonna get done there is no end to 360 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:39,760 what we do no but it is job security sure unless they find some new person that can 361 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,640 do it faster than you and it's why we sometimes have these yeah bro that Dragon's Milk was 362 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:54,440 awesome yes it is big fan of the triple mash holy cow I will say make sure that you're 363 00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,160 not driving when you drink the Dragon's Milk cuz especially if you're gonna drink it by 364 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:07,920 yourself holy cow like I we I drink half of that thing yeah and it's not like I mean I 365 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:15,640 mean you tell me how much of my story I think we're doing okay so far but the like it was 366 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:22,040 really good yeah but I don't recommend drinking it and driving heavy machinery no I would 367 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,520 not those of you who are out there know what I'm talking about yeah so it might have made 368 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:34,400 it fun but I don't recommend it yeah I feel like maybe I should have eaten lunch today 369 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,880 no time for that you don't have time for lunch I don't have time for lunch you have people 370 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:46,080 to take care of I have things to do places to go support tickets yes waiting on me yes 371 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:56,360 or whatever that is anyway um man we hope that there was something inside of you know 372 00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:01,320 sometimes it just feels like a complain fest I'm not that hasn't been what this podcast 373 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:07,260 has felt like to me in the past but yeah right now my just general mentality sometimes can 374 00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:12,640 feel that way so yeah sorry about that well we're just kind of scratching the surface 375 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,320 of this topic there'll be a lot more to dig into oh for sure different options that you 376 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,320 can obviously consider yeah you know just because we threw out unify does it mean it's 377 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,520 the only way to go oh it's definitely not and and like I said we did not mean for that 378 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:34,040 to be a love fest in any way we are not yeah sponsored by unify every piece of gear we've 379 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,540 now we have is purchased by us and we want to make sure that we're giving you all the 380 00:43:39,540 --> 00:43:44,920 information that we can yes but if they're listening I could use a couple access points 381 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:53,200 bro I got a friend who's really interested in your have you seen the have you gone to 382 00:43:53,200 --> 00:44:02,560 like the connect page and seen the they've got the amp basically the speaker amplifier 383 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:09,680 that connects to your system I don't I don't mean to ruin your day we're talking about 384 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:18,680 your yeah unify has a you know they so this is one of those a lot of a lot of network 385 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,440 appliances trying to figure out the Internet of Things category and if you don't know what 386 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:29,600 that is look it up because it's just it's very popular right now but the Internet of 387 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:38,600 Things moving not just from being a household type solution where you can turn on your lights 388 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:44,240 and your TV and your unlock your door and stuff like that but actually moving into commercial 389 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:48,480 that seems to be more of a thing now because people are getting this like oh I can do all 390 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:54,240 these things at home I should be able to do this at work and so that turning into more 391 00:44:54,240 --> 00:45:03,080 of an enterprise type thing they have and what I was trying to reference was unify has 392 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:09,680 made a ubiquity has made a whatever you call it has made an amp that can connect to your 393 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:17,760 system that not only will allow you to play music over and stuff like that but will actually 394 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:26,680 like has them you you run the leads then to the to the devices directly from this device 395 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:36,140 or to the speakers directly from this advice device and being able to power things but 396 00:45:36,140 --> 00:45:44,920 also be selective in which music is going where and stuff like that yeah so this is 397 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:53,680 kind of getting into the Sonos arena it is but like I have one but baked into your network 398 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:59,040 devices yeah I have one complaint go for it there's no chromecast support there's no chrome 399 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:05,880 pat cast support sorry Chris there's the first beer effect at least that I detected yeah 400 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,080 it's great that you've got earplugs stuff you can't do yeah I mean it's great don't 401 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:18,160 get me wrong I get that you've got airplane and you've got a silly Spotify connect really 402 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:25,040 I can't I mean anyway I'm not gonna say anything unifying for listening you need chromecast 403 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,760 now it may already the hardware may be there and they just haven't enabled it yet hey maybe 404 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:34,960 because I know Apple charges money now they do for you to pull off airplay so good you 405 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,120 may have some similar pieces but yeah we got to bring the chromecast support into this but 406 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,080 this I love the idea of this oh bro I saw short today that you would have just wanted 407 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:51,640 to throw across the room where a guy was talking about how we have iPhones because we don't 408 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:59,840 want to look poor and everything like that and I was like oh ouch you know there are 409 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:06,360 people that choose Android right like that was yes that was that was pretty tough I don't 410 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:14,560 know what to say to that crowd that mmm that that felt pretty pejorative sorry about that 411 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:22,480 all of our Android listeners not my not my I did not say that that was not his words 412 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:32,320 yeah I love mine yeah love my pixel or a champ I love that you love your pixel I'm not that's 413 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:38,360 what it makes America great you know just choices choices yes all day long you can choose 414 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:45,720 Richard do you want a device that works or do you want an Android oh see what you did 415 00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:55,880 there it was a joke anyway but it like anyway just talking about them internet of things 416 00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,240 I don't know like we we were we were closing the show and then all of a sudden I was like 417 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:05,600 hey remember that they did this squirrel yeah so I'll have to do some more looking into 418 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:12,120 that that's that's intriguing I think stuff like this is is going to be more like widespread 419 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:17,920 yeah and it probably already is I mean there there is an element of I do need to go ahead 420 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,380 and say this like again we talked this is like the fifth time that I've said this wasn't 421 00:48:21,380 --> 00:48:29,280 supposed to be a ubiquity or unify love fest but the idea that because it's what I work 422 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:35,980 in all the time Chris at least has some respite from that it does mean that so many times 423 00:48:35,980 --> 00:48:43,040 you are you are trying to figure out how the innovations that are happening are relevant 424 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:48,320 to you like what what does do I need to know about this do I not need to know about this 425 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:55,120 like they've honestly the one that always pops into my head is they've got unify now 426 00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:01,480 has the ability to like connect to EV chargers and turn them on or off based on whether or 427 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,360 not you're an employee and they're supposed to be charging your I'm like we're never going 428 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:12,400 to have to worry about that but like yeah that's a little that's cool I guess that you 429 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,140 can do that I think that's still a little more gimmick it feels like it but at the same 430 00:49:17,140 --> 00:49:20,740 time like is that is that a real thing in other parts of this country where they're 431 00:49:20,740 --> 00:49:28,240 like we have EV chargers but you can't be using them if you're not an employee correct 432 00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:32,720 it makes sense I'm not saying that it doesn't you know like anybody pulling up and racking 433 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:38,200 up your electric no but are there really that many employers that are like I'm gonna provide 434 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:45,560 EV chargers for my I almost said family in certain states I suspect it does happen wow 435 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:50,480 okay like that's a thing California is a great example because they're driving everybody 436 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:57,400 to EV mm-hmm they were really pushing the initiative to by 2030 they don't want to sell 437 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:05,520 gasoline powered vehicles in the state anymore that's cute so this is this this this is why 438 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,760 you know states should not be in charge of other states correct don't do that correct 439 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:15,800 we don't live in California correct but the flip side is they go hey can you like unplug 440 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:21,000 your EV we're hurting for generating enough power it's like well then don't ask everybody 441 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:32,720 to have an EV man yeah come on mr. Newsom that's rough yeah you got to have some serious 442 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:39,200 solar panels on the top of your bill yeah on top of your car yeah right anyway there's 443 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:45,760 a lot there maybe we'll talk about EVs next time no no no no that's not what we're doing 444 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:52,520 okay thanks for hanging out man yeah enjoyed it it was good this is a two in two weeks 445 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:59,000 yes we are we are going to be back in this groove we're just making this happen yes 446 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,920 yeah I'm gone next week yeah the next week but the next week we'll be ready right back 447 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:08,720 in and that's two weeks September 6th one year since release of the first podcast hard 448 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:15,380 to believe yeah I know op3 numbers look really nice since the last show just saying when 449 00:51:15,380 --> 00:51:19,920 you post stuff yeah it's amazing what happens when you post and listen to it oh my gosh 450 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:32,680 so we're up to whole subscribers drumroll 14 baby yeah thanks for listening guys we're 451 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,560 doing this for ourselves you know that right yes yeah you this you don't do podcasting 452 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:43,640 for money no well we don't somebody did Joe Rogan is fine yeah but he didn't even need 453 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:49,880 that money no he's fine so yeah you podcast for the fun of it it's not an exit strategy 454 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:55,200 no unless you can work out some sweet deals yeah I'm telling you I am waiting for us to 455 00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:01,240 be discovered when we're discovered I'm gonna be so excited about doing gear reviews we 456 00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:06,280 just have to keep hitting that unify and hey you know if I go catch and that can be the 457 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:18,960 start hey road hey anybody yeah we will review your gear anyway always good to hang out with 458 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:47,520 you bro absolutely thanks for making the time not a problem see you everybody 459 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,200 ah thanks Obama