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Hey Chris, how's it going?

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Hey John, how are you?

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I'm doing alright.

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A little bit tired from the old kiddos, but you know what that's like.

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Absolutely.

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I got three and they're little ones.

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They're almost 10, 11 and 12.

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It's weird because they're stacked right on top of each other.

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The boys are only 12 months apart and Maddie and Micah are 15 months apart.

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Right now I guess they're 9, 10 and 12, but they're about to be 10, 11 and 12.

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And you've got like grown ups now.

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Yeah, I've only got two, but it sure feels like having more.

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Garrett is 19, graduates in just what, four or so weeks.

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Yeah, figuring out what that looks like.

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Goodness.

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Figuring out college, next steps.

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What he wants to do.

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What he wants to do with his life.

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He's already asked for a gap year and we already said no, we don't do that.

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Most people who take a gap year never go back.

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So we're not doing that.

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I'm fine if he wants to take that first semester, dipping his toes in various things to figure

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out what he wants to do.

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But no gap year, not happening.

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There's some wisdom to sliding into a few different areas and seeing which one feels

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best.

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Yeah, without going into too much detail on this show, I am a textbook example of what

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happens if you take too much time off.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, it worked out though.

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Yes, it did ultimately worked out in the end.

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But we don't want to teach any bad lessons that way.

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There was a lot of lost years.

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Yeah, for sure.

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So, yeah, and then Tori wrapping up first year of high school.

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No.

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Yeah.

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Golly.

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Dealing with boys.

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Oh, boys.

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It's fun watching them run around the church.

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And by run around, I mean, walk slowly around acting very cool.

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My kids are still running around the church.

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Yes.

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Anyway.

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Hey, what are we drinking?

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We have something nice tonight.

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It's very nice.

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Yes.

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So not too long ago, we did the Chame Blue, as I said on that show.

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Tonight, we have Chame Red.

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Red.

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The Premier.

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Premier.

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The other one was the Grand Reserve, which is the granddaddy.

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Yeah.

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This is that next step down.

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Down, but it looks very nice.

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Oh, it's fancy and again in the a nice size wine bottle.

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Wine bottle.

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That's what it looks like.

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Got the cork and the whole nine.

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I mean, that's that's a champagne bottle right there.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Well, I'm going to attempt to open this.

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But.

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Watch your eyes.

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Yeah.

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Last one we did before the show.

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So we'll see how this goes live on the air.

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Yeah.

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I don't I don't know how I feel about this, but it's going to happen.

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You ready?

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Go for it.

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And oh, come on.

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Yep.

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That's what I had last time.

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It's almost there.

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Got it.

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I hit the door.

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Winner.

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And it didn't pour over.

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No, it did not.

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Give me your glass.

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We're drinking out of glasses like civilized people.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah.

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See how my poor.

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It's looking good from here.

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So I tried to get one of my friends well, tried to get I have I have been coached on

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this by a friend of mine and he knows like what you're supposed to do.

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And evidently, like there's a there's a reason for the way that you poor poor and how like

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when you go into the center and all of that.

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But yeah, dadgum it if I'm not just and they all have their preferred glasses and right.

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So this is not the chalice that they sell.

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But this works.

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Yeah, we got to figure that out.

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Yeah.

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Clink clink.

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Cheers.

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Cheers.

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God bless the monks.

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That's good.

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Oh, man.

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I'm a fan.

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I think the Grand Reserve had a little more fruit to it from what I remember.

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This is definitely that it's a little I guess drier.

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Yeah.

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Toastier.

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I like it.

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It's good.

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Yes.

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The monks know what they're doing.

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Way to go, Trappist.

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Yes.

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I'm just saying if you all are looking for beers, we're running into kind of a obsession

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here a little bit with these monks.

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They're they're doing they're doing it good.

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They're doing God's work.

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Yes, they are over there.

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We get beer.

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They get the money to help people win win win win.

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All right, so I've got a non tech question for you, but you know, it's related because

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sci fi tech, they're inextricably wound together.

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There's tech and sci fi.

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Yeah, just constantly.

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But you are my foremost expert on Dune.

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And so I need to know now that the second one has come out and we see we've seen some

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serious differences now between the book.

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Yep.

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And what they're doing.

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Let me let me let me give my like not as big a fan.

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So you've seen it.

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I've seen it.

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Okay, I've seen it now.

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Okay.

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Let me give my not as big a Dune fan going in as you are.

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Okay, not knowing as much not.

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Anyway, okay.

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I thought like I really liked the first one.

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When it came out.

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It was great.

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I was like, wow, the scope and everything like that.

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My wife gives me so much crap about that movie because I liked it.

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And she fell asleep.

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She didn't fall asleep in the movie.

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She falls asleep.

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So falls asleep at movies pretty regularly.

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Okay, if we're watching movies at home, she's going to fall asleep.

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That's what's going to happen.

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But she jokes that she had to go to the bathroom because it was so long.

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And so she left.

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And when she came back, nothing had happened.

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And I was like, especially at the end of that movie, that's not the case.

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Like there's just no way that that's the case.

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But I will grant you there's a lot of things that they have to like.

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They've got to explain the world.

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Yes, they've got to build this world for you because, you know, most people have not read

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the book books.

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And so like, I guess I just expected it to be slow at the beginning.

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Right.

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And the way that they were starting to build towards what I knew was coming, I was getting

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excited about.

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Everyone comes out and I really liked it.

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Like I there there are things that I know are not the way that they are in the book.

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And I was like.

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I can overlook that.

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One of them in particular, because they tried to stay more faithful to the book in the in

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this way in the what was that, 84 version, 84, yes, 84 version, which I have seen.

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You know, and not not when this one came out, like I saw it.

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Either in the 90s or the 80s.

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Like it was a while ago that I saw that movie.

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And so I had to like remember like, oh, yeah, the box shields like the you know, the like

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what like number one, they did that way better.

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Oh, yes, absolutely.

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In this.

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But our technology is also a lot further along.

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Yes.

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But like the one that the part that I'm thinking of is actually the way that they handle his

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little sister in the book.

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By the point that we get to in the little sister has been born.

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Yes.

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And she because of what they've already explained in the second one of her being.

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You know, abomination, abomination because she is has been given the.

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Juice of life, the yes, she got the product of the water of life, water of life.

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There was there was some like hint of maybe she would be different even before then, because

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her mother is benedicite because of the kind of.

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I think they they are hending to how powerful she is as a benedicite, even though she's

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not ranked very as high as you know, whatever.

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Anyway, so before she becomes a Reverend Mother, there kind of is this like understanding that

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this child is going to be at least mom can intuit some of what's going on inside of tiny

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baby brain.

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But then after the water of life or whatever it is, the.

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Venom that she drinks or poison that she drinks.

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It goes full on like baby can talk.

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Embryo can talk like what like there there there is there is a different level she has

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seen without being born.

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And so when she arrives, she not only has seen already, she she's she's a like that

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toddler is an adult and she talks like an adult and she has mannerisms like an adult.

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And it was super weird.

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That's what freaked everybody out around her.

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Yeah, she's a little girl and she speaks like one of them.

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Yeah.

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And you know, like there's there's parts of that that I'm like, OK, like.

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That was super weird to me watching the eighty four version.

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And so I'm not I'm not completely hating on.

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Maybe if if they skip years going into Messiah or the third, that it it kind of feels like

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it's winding up to skip years.

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Does it feel like that to you?

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Yeah, I'm.

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Without giving too much spoiler, I kind of know there's going to be spoilers.

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I don't know how well I've got two answers to your question.

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Yeah, I kind of don't know how they're going.

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To fix it.

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OK, so we'll see.

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But yes, it does feel like there has to be some progression.

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Yeah, because there obviously is between the first book and Messiah.

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Yeah, there's a lot that's gone on.

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Yeah.

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And by that point, she's grown as well.

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Uh huh.

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So, yeah, there because it seems like what they're what they're saying is that she like

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the next time we see her, she's going to be.

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Anya Joyce or whatever.

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Anya Taylor, Anya Taylor, whatever.

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Her name is the blonde, the blonde.

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Yes.

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She's going to be her age, which I'm like, holy cow.

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I would say that's probably a safe bet.

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So I think there's a bunch like Paul's not supposed to kill.

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The Baron.

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No, Ney Baron.

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Yes, very important fight scene with Sting.

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Yes.

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Sorry, Austin Butler.

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This time Elvis.

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Yeah, Elvis.

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From Sting to Elvis.

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That's funny.

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Bald Elvis did fall.

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The they don't they don't make like they don't they don't he doesn't teach them the weirding.

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Nope.

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The gosh, what's their Freeman?

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Freeman.

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Yes.

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He doesn't teach the Fremen the weirding like there's there's things that it's like, what

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is going on?

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You lose a famous to me it's famous.

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It's a standout line from the original book and movie where the Freeman has the weapon

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that works off a voice and he says Maudib and it strikes and he says, my name is a killing

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word.

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I forgot about that line.

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Yep that's true.

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That's that's gone.

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That's not good.

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Yes.

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Maybe he'll say it later.

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Maybe they they haven't they just haven't made as big of a deal of like they they've

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definitely talked about Ben and Jezret like powers.

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Yes.

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The power of the Ben and Jezret is not signing cool sign language.

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We're talking about like the force speak or whatever it is.

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What's the the voice?

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Thank you.

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The voice.

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Not the song show either.

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Not the song show.

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Not the Blake Shelton.

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There you go.

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Thing.

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The voice is you know when they have that weird voice and it like makes people do things

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like the Reverend Mother making Paul walk towards her and it's all about forcing compliance.

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The right frequency to control the individual.

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Which I totally understand as an audio guy like I control people with frequencies all

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the time.

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Yes there you go.

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You got to not use our powers for evil though.

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What else?

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What was it what were other parts of it for you?

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So you want me to give okay so there's two answers to your question.

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So if I step away from a person who knows the books and just watch the movie spectacular

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movie.

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Now really well again visually stunning just like the first.

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There's so much practical effects versus special effects that really sells the movie.

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It's I mean a total contrast to Star Wars Episode 1 that was nothing but CG.

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There's so much practical effect in this.

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Now obviously there's some things that you can't do.

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Really stunning great story a lot to be learned about being cautious of charismatic leaders.

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Being cautious who people who say they're a messiah.

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A lot of intrigue there.

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Stories I mean I guess the way it kind of plays out how things can turn into religious

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and natism lots of interesting story there and Herbert intentionally went with that in

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the books.

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Yeah he was very intentional.

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That's what he's doing.

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Yes so again movies amazing.

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I totally recommend anybody if you haven't seen it yet go see it totally worth it regardless

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of whether you've seen the first movie you can actually walk into that movie and pretty

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well just roll with the flow.

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And you haven't missed anything that you're like yeah I really should have watched the

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other movie.

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Well again they kind of reach with her voice the which I also thought was interesting that

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they started the first one with I just lose everybody's name.

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Chani they speak they start in the first movie with Chani kind of being the narrating voice.

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Right yeah okay.

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Yeah I was like am I making that up.

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I thought in the first movie was like Chani is the one narrating and then in the second

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movie they switch over to the princess.

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Irulan thank you.

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She's narrating correct.

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And she does she does a recap.

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Yes which you know isn't as good as watching the movie in my opinion but you can do it.

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Brings you up to speed.

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Laurie fine.

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So yeah as a fan of the books I absolutely hated it the first time I watched it.

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Okay I was so angry not quite close.

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I was sitting there watching that was going to be a big deal because Chris it takes a

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lot to get him angry.

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If you're not an AT&T support rep you're probably safe but or one of my children sometimes.

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So I'm sitting there watching with my wife and the scene plays out and I think never

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go that's not right.

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15 minutes later that's not right and eventually she's like stop it do you want to leave.

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I'm like no we'll finish it we paid to see it.

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Yeah you know and I get to the end and she's like that was amazing and I'm like what movie

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did you watch.

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I mean this is like me with her and going and watching episode 8 and she's like that

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was a great movie.

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And I'm like where have I gone wrong with you.

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What so are you talking about.

331
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So we'll hit some of the specifics.

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Princess Irulan is supposed to be the narrator through the whole thing.

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Just like in the 84 movie it's that same way in the book.

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The chapters typically open up with her having something to say from what she's written of

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the histories.

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Yeah the captain's log.

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Basically star date.

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Yes so that's minor I can kind of get over it but they did pick it up to your point in

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the second movie.

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Yeah I was I was it was weird to me because that's that's that's what it's supposed to

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be that for it to start with Chani I was like what.

342
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Okay whatever and then it started with your long year long.

343
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Yes.

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In the second one I was like what are you doing.

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Yeah.

346
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Okay.

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So from Irulan I'm going to go to her father.

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Should on the fourth.

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I hated the portrayal Christopher walk walk in.

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I need more cowbell.

351
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I got a prescription.

352
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So I thought they made the Emperor look so weak and feeble.

353
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That is not the Emperor.

354
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He masterminded what was going on in this one they tried to make it out to be that his

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rev.

356
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Mother worked him into it.

357
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No no no no because they always do.

358
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Yes no he was culled and calculating.

359
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He knew what he was doing he knew he could put those two against each other one would

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take out the other.

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He'd have the leverage to control the other.

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He was just that kind of guy.

363
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So for them to portray him is so weak and feeble and simple minded.

364
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So so disappointing so disappointing.

365
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From there I can't miss the fact that his sister wasn't born.

366
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Yeah it there's such a critical piece there.

367
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That you've got to understand the Baron.

368
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They're not going to do it.

369
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So I think you can say it.

370
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Yes and so I think that I I won't say something bad.

371
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They chickened out.

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They absolutely chickened out.

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They did not want to portray the Baron for what he was and to portray her as the counter

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weight to the Baron.

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The Baron is horrible.

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He's disgusting.

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He's vile.

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I think they portrayed the Baron as vile.

379
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In the first one in the first movie the second movie the Baron almost fades into the background.

380
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Yeah because they've got to get you angry with nay Baron.

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Yes but you have to understand the Baron to understand the importance of his sister being

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born and doing what she does.

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The Baron in the 84 movie in the beginning he walks up to the young guy and pulls the

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heart plug out and watches him die.

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And he's loving it.

386
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There's almost a sexual nature to it for the Baron in that moment.

387
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Yeah I get that feeling though with the with the Harkonnens in general like that they they

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they're not they're not they're not shying away from that.

389
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They just put it on the people not on the Baron.

390
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Correct and so the Baron.

391
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Golly I hated him.

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As sick as it is the Baron has an affinity for children.

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And that's what makes his sister's role so critical to the story because the Baron is

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so vile and then in the end he's killed by a child.

395
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Such a poetic way to put that.

396
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You're right that is tied the bow that here's the Baron he picks up this little girl and

397
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the Baron thinks he's just going to be the Baron and she says gotcha and he's dead.

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Tied at the hands of a child.

399
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Such an critical part of the story in my opinion.

400
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I thought they went a little over the top in his mom being manipulative.

401
00:23:06,620 --> 00:23:08,840
She was absolutely manipulative in the book.

402
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I think they went a little extreme but that's minor.

403
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The biggest glaring problem in the movie is the relationship between Paul and Chani.

404
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That was the exact opposite of their relationship.

405
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She never doubts him.

406
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She never questions him.

407
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She never makes her feelings for him conditional.

408
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That's not the way it works and you literally don't end with her leaving the way she did.

409
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And again you miss a critical line from the book in the movie.

410
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And that yeah she sees him now going to accept her as a wife and she's taking it back.

411
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And then it's kind of explained you have nothing to worry about and his mom tells Chani history

412
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will call us wives.

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It's an important thing to be there.

414
00:24:06,580 --> 00:24:12,480
That drives home the fact that yeah he's marrying Iroland but that's it.

415
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Yeah there's I guess there's part of me that's just hopeful that they're going to redeem

416
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:22,920
her but I shouldn't be hopeful because it's Hollywood in the 20s.

417
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Correct.

418
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:31,080
Well they have to figure that out because a key part of Messiah is Iroland poisoning

419
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Chani so she can't get pregnant.

420
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That's a critical piece of the story and so if she's gone what are you going to do?

421
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,680
No they've got to bring her back.

422
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,400
There's no way that they don't bring her back.

423
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But I feel like they've got to redeem that relationship in a way that's going to be really

424
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hard to do.

425
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,840
Exactly.

426
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And that I don't know that Hollywood is capable of anymore.

427
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:05,560
They don't for Chani to take on the role that she's going to take on it's going to require

428
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:12,440
a woman to do something that they don't allow women to do anymore.

429
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,720
And that's like what are we doing?

430
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So yeah.

431
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Because I do think that they've made it obvious that Paul is still in love with Chani.

432
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He's not like switching women in the new movie.

433
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And maybe I'm just reading what I know about the book and the other movie into the way

434
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that I'm reading these actors and what they're portraying.

435
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:53,800
But I'm like no like this is strategic alliance.

436
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Correct.

437
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Has to happen for him to be in charge.

438
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But that's his girl.

439
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,600
Yep.

440
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And what's crazy and I guess if you have his prescience and you can see the future he's

441
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all like she'll be back.

442
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That's weird.

443
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:27,800
But yeah there is an inhumanity about him now that was what was so endearing about him

444
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before.

445
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Correct.

446
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Like his humanity in the midst of being able to say like no I'm not a messiah.

447
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Like no I'm not that.

448
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Like this is what's happening.

449
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The reason that this is happening is because of this.

450
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Like I'm here to avenge my father.

451
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I'm here to fight because these guys are worth taking down.

452
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:58,880
And you know there's a lot of logic inside of that that just makes total sense.

453
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And I don't think that that logic's not there anymore.

454
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I just think that he knows that the way like that the way that that happens is for him

455
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to take on a mantle that he didn't want to take on.

456
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But it like the way that he interacts with Chani now I just I deeply regret the choice

457
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that was made there.

458
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Yeah.

459
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So yeah they.

460
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I agree with that.

461
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They've made it difficult to write this ship so to speak.

462
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I can only hope that they can put it together.

463
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Because at this point the next movie is definitely happening with the money that they've made.

464
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Oh my gosh.

465
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Supposedly they've already greenlit to start writing a script.

466
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They don't have a script.

467
00:27:43,940 --> 00:27:44,940
Not yet.

468
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I don't know how you write the one that they've written without having the next script.

469
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They probably have some storyboards.

470
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,480
Oh my gosh.

471
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,520
But so yeah they're just now putting the script together.

472
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See that that pisses me off.

473
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Like you should.

474
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Sorry.

475
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,160
Sorry for all the children listening.

476
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:11,680
I am frustrated with the fact that like in my mind great storytelling.

477
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You need to know what you're doing in the final act.

478
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And I have to trust that they do.

479
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:19,200
They have some basic outline.

480
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,200
So I don't know.

481
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,880
I'll be curious to see how they bring Chani back in.

482
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,880
Take her from.

483
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,760
I'm essentially I love you but I hate you.

484
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,040
To I totally love you.

485
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I'm totally committed to you.

486
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Let's rule the universe.

487
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:36,120
Yeah I don't think.

488
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:39,640
I don't know how they're going to flip that.

489
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,860
The more I think about it the more I'm like I don't think they can fully get there.

490
00:28:44,860 --> 00:28:46,340
And that is disappointing.

491
00:28:46,340 --> 00:28:48,720
Like I feel like it's a great movie.

492
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:55,320
And I feel like it's like that I'm so grateful that they stuck to so many story points inside

493
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of it.

494
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:07,280
But like that you know he Paul does have a hero arc inside of this that he's yes he's

495
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,720
not just immediately able to do everything.

496
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,800
Like yes he's been trained but like he's got to learn how to sand walk.

497
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,120
Are you listening Disney?

498
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,120
You know right.

499
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,760
Like that's that that's incredibly important.

500
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:29,800
And I guess it's important for Chani to have a heroine arc of some kind too.

501
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,200
But are you willing to do that?

502
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:38,660
And I don't I haven't I haven't seen them willing to do that with any female since this

503
00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:41,360
new revolution has taken place.

504
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,060
Yeah.

505
00:29:43,060 --> 00:29:46,240
Women can't be they can't be weak.

506
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Yeah ever.

507
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,880
And it's like well that's that's not good.

508
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,760
Yeah one other thing and then we can switch here.

509
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,280
They never gave us the visual of a navigator.

510
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,280
That's true.

511
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,920
We never got to see the navigator for the for the Spacing Guild.

512
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,920
Wait a minute.

513
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,880
Which they have to bring that in to the third movie because there's a guild navigator working

514
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:21,120
with Irelon and all the other there's a is it Tui Lak Su Pidi Tui Lak Su the face changers.

515
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,560
Yes and so you've got this group of three or four that are plotting against Paul to

516
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:32,160
try to overthrow him in Messiah and then you've got them trying to suppress Chani so she can't

517
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,960
give him potentially another male heir.

518
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:40,300
Oh that was another thing that they didn't that was critical.

519
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:41,880
They actually had a child.

520
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,240
They had a boy.

521
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,240
Lato.

522
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:51,000
Yeah because Lato has to.

523
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,840
Because in the book.

524
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,080
He has a son named after his dad.

525
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:03,320
Correct and in this movie where you see them obliterate the CH.

526
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,680
Yeah it's supposed to be Lato.

527
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,160
That's where Lato dies.

528
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Yeah because that's what drives him over the edge.

529
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,160
Yes.

530
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,440
I forgot about that.

531
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:19,320
Yes so that's and that's not that was one other critical piece that's missing.

532
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,880
So now I've completely made you hate the movie.

533
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,880
I have not.

534
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:29,760
I it's still like I just I think because I just don't expect them to do good anymore

535
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:35,160
that there was anything good inside of it and it just the production level was so high.

536
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,880
I thought you know the storytelling that they did was so high the way that they're showing

537
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:49,320
multiple like sides to this story in so many different ways is so good.

538
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:58,840
The fact that they had Paul train I think like Enford that to be anyway.

539
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,600
And I won't even get started on Thufir.

540
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,960
The fact that he was exempt from the movie that I won't go down.

541
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,160
I won't go down that rabbit trail.

542
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,600
Okay enough dune bashing.

543
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,640
People still enjoyed it still recommend you go see it if you haven't seen it.

544
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,120
But you recommend that they go read the book.

545
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,360
If you haven't read the book go watch the movie first.

546
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,280
Okay because I want you to at least enjoy the movie because if you read the book first

547
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,780
and then you go watch this movie you're going to be frustrated.

548
00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:35,480
So watch the movie have a blast then read the book and then go oh man they got it wrong.

549
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:43,320
So I guess there goes our advertising dollars talking about the product.

550
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,320
Sorry.

551
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,320
Oh well.

552
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,640
I wasn't gonna get free tickets anyway.

553
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,680
No me neither.

554
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,600
All right so let's pick up where we left off.

555
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,440
So last time we talked about the super amazing OSI model.

556
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,440
OSI model.

557
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,000
And I bet you all were so riveted.

558
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,000
Riveted.

559
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,800
There was a little bit of nerd knob in that episode.

560
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,720
We'll try not to go quite that far this time.

561
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,080
Nerd knob.

562
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:17,920
Do you want to go ahead and read the what we forgot what we didn't know about.

563
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,680
Oh you want to hit the booster gram.

564
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,600
Yeah can we go ahead and do the booster gram.

565
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,600
Sure.

566
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,320
I know that's kind of out of order but.

567
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,360
That's okay.

568
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,360
That's okay.

569
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,880
So we missed one that actually came in back on February 26th.

570
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,880
Yeah sorry about that.

571
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,800
Don't know how we missed the notification.

572
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,040
But we got a boost.

573
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,040
We're mere mortals.

574
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,040
Yeah that we are.

575
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,720
Of 2222 sets from our friend Jason.

576
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,160
Yay Jason.

577
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,560
With a message of boosting for the LUFS.

578
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,560
LUFS.

579
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,560
So if you listen to.

580
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,400
I mean it was that long ago.

581
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,000
Yes that was the compression.

582
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,400
Sorry guys.

583
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:01,240
For those that don't know LUFS is the measurement of how loud it sounds.

584
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,240
Perceived sound.

585
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,120
Perceived sound yes versus actual boost in what you're doing.

586
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,120
So thank you Jason.

587
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Appreciate it very much.

588
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,960
Always.

589
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,600
So far he's about the only one.

590
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,000
Yeah I know he definitely is the only one.

591
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,680
I think I put one test in one time just to make sure it was working.

592
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,720
Well I mean yeah.

593
00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:22,120
So but again thank you Jason.

594
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,120
Appreciate it.

595
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,120
Always.

596
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,120
Yes as always.

597
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,120
You're the man.

598
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,120
Thank you sir.

599
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,120
All right.

600
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,000
So now into the meat and potatoes.

601
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Meat and potatoes.

602
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,560
So we're going to talk about some networking hardware.

603
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:45,880
Most of this you have some form of it in your house if you have a network or you've used

604
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,220
it and not necessarily known it in your work environment.

605
00:34:50,220 --> 00:34:53,960
So I'm going to go out of order to how it's written on this sheet.

606
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,720
I'm going to drop down to a hub.

607
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:06,000
And all I can ultimately say is if you find a hub you shoot it and you kill it.

608
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,920
You do not want to have a network.

609
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,920
Listen Pankov.

610
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,800
Hubs are evil and must be destroyed.

611
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,960
They are junkies.

612
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:20,800
So they're all now I say that there is still one reasonable use case.

613
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:27,040
If you don't have the ability to mirror the port that is passing your internet traffic

614
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,480
and you're trying to pull that off for inspection.

615
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,560
You can put in a hub.

616
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:39,200
The way a hub works is whatever comes in on one port all of that goes out on every other

617
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,960
port so everybody gets flooded with all the traffic.

618
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:49,440
So again if you're trying to run Wireshark and you're trying to find anomalies going

619
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,360
out to your internet connection or coming in and you again you can't mirror the port

620
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,680
over to another port hub is a great way to achieve that.

621
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,320
But other than that it's kind of stupid.

622
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,320
Other than that it's stupid.

623
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,560
Kill it get it out of your network.

624
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:11,920
Then you go back far enough a hub was in that in that time was amazing.

625
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,760
You could plug in your computers.

626
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,320
You got the connectivity that you wanted.

627
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,800
When you plug one in everything was great.

628
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,320
But as soon as you plugged in the next computer that collision light started going crazy because

629
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,640
everybody's trying to transmit and receive at the same time.

630
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,640
Different things different.

631
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Yes.

632
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,560
And those packets literally collide with each other if you will on the wire and it's like

633
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:39,000
oh okay can we say literally collide with each other on the wire.

634
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,000
I think so.

635
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,000
Yes.

636
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Okay.

637
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,000
Yes.

638
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,280
Because you're I'm transmitting in this port you I've transmitted on port one you're on

639
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,280
port two.

640
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,680
They're literally passing the same paths.

641
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,680
Yeah.

642
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:56,240
And they literally block each other like oh we can't both transmit at the same time.

643
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:57,240
This doesn't work.

644
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:58,240
Right.

645
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:03,240
And so both computers have to stop doing random countdown and then transmit again and hope

646
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:05,840
you don't have a collision.

647
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,240
So not pretty not pretty.

648
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:10,920
But when that when that's all you had that's all you had.

649
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,040
But we don't have only that anymore.

650
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,040
No we don't.

651
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,680
So let's move on to what we have.

652
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,680
Yes.

653
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:23,440
So they got smart and they gave us switches switches switches are amazing.

654
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,440
What up switches.

655
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,360
Everybody has their own dedicated port.

656
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,520
No more collisions no more collisions.

657
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,400
It's amazing how that works.

658
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,640
Now there is technically a shared back plane if you will and how much data can be transmitted.

659
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,640
Yeah.

660
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:43,880
But the switch knows this computer is on this port and it knows that based off of the unique

661
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:49,200
Mac ID if you remember that from last time it knows this Mac ID of this computer is on

662
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,000
port one and it knows that this computer over here is on with a different Mac with a different

663
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Mac ID.

664
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Yes.

665
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,880
On port 10 and the computer on port 10 wants to talk to a computer on port one.

666
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,800
It says here you go because oh I know exactly where that computer is.

667
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,400
Drops it out port one doesn't have to blast it out over every port going.

668
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,480
Hope you're out there.

669
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,480
Which one are you.

670
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,480
Yes.

671
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,120
So huge huge huge improvements.

672
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,040
They're beautiful.

673
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,800
So switches operate at layer two since we're talking about that's why we're talking about

674
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,000
Mac IDs Mac IDs layer two layer two.

675
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Yes.

676
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,960
So that's what's happening in your home.

677
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,920
It may all be in one box.

678
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,360
The what most people have a lot of time it comes from the Internet provider.

679
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,240
We talked about that in a previous episode.

680
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:43,120
It's all in one router switch Wi-Fi.

681
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:49,500
But these if you're if you're nerdy enough you have a dedicated switch.

682
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:52,200
If you're nerdy enough if you're nerdy enough most people don't care.

683
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,680
They just want it to work.

684
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,320
I plug in the power I plug in this cable and it works.

685
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,960
That's all I care about.

686
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,280
That's the Apple model.

687
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,920
Listen don't tell me I'm wrong.

688
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,920
Don't get ugly.

689
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,920
Tell me I'm wrong.

690
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,480
I think that Apple is aware that most people are stupid.

691
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,480
I didn't say people are stupid.

692
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,000
I just want it simple and they want it to work.

693
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,440
No I think that most people are stupid.

694
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:24,840
They they they are it's there's a I I'm not going to badmouth people that I love.

695
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,760
Jay Redfern at South spring.org.

696
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,800
Don't message me.

697
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,800
Don't message me.

698
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,000
Don't at me.

699
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,040
It's just it's one of those things that we.

700
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,360
I mean I'm tired.

701
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,320
I have three children.

702
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:45,400
Yes I haven't slept in a decade like the there's a lot going on.

703
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,040
If I don't have to know it then I don't want to know it right now.

704
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,040
Sure.

705
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,840
And I get that with with everybody.

706
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,320
I get that if this isn't something that you need to know about like you don't know about

707
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,280
it.

708
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,580
So stupid is harsh.

709
00:40:00,580 --> 00:40:04,400
I should not have said the S word.

710
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,040
But it there is a lot of like I don't I don't want to.

711
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:14,600
I've got a problem solve my you know 12 year old doing 12 year old things.

712
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,720
I don't want a problem solve the Internet.

713
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:17,720
Sure.

714
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:18,720
So I get it.

715
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:19,720
Yeah.

716
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:22,880
But it is a radical lack of knowledge.

717
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,440
There you go.

718
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,480
There's something that affects all of our lives in a way that we never imagined it would.

719
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,480
Correct.

720
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,640
It's those of us that were born in the 80s or before.

721
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,640
Correct.

722
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,760
So switches are amazing.

723
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,760
Make your life easier.

724
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,400
Make your network more efficient.

725
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,040
Great.

726
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,560
Not just to add more ports.

727
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,000
No not just add more ports although that can be nice.

728
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Yeah.

729
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,000
Especially if it's got POE.

730
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000
POE man.

731
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,560
Power over Ethernet is the greatest thing ever.

732
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,920
I just it really is sliced bread.

733
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,920
It is.

734
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,920
For the network.

735
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,920
Yes.

736
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,960
And then at the same time it's like oh my gosh we used to have to plug everything in.

737
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:03,960
We did.

738
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,280
You remember those days?

739
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,280
Yep.

740
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,280
You had your POE brick.

741
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,280
Bus powered is the way to go.

742
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:15,920
You got to plug one into the device, one into the switch.

743
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,040
Brick would die on you.

744
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,560
Why'd the Wi-Fi go out?

745
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,120
Oh there's no power.

746
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,120
Oh there's no power.

747
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,560
So yeah POE on every port.

748
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,560
Beautiful.

749
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,560
Yeah.

750
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,560
Beautiful.

751
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:35,440
Okay so I learned the behavior of switches in middle school.

752
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,800
So I understood it in middle school.

753
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,520
Do it all through high school.

754
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:46,400
I get in the college and then all of a sudden they go this is a layer three switch.

755
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,400
And you said what?

756
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,400
Whoa.

757
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,400
No it's not.

758
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,400
It's layer two.

759
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,320
No this is a layer three switch.

760
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,280
I'm like are you messing with me?

761
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,600
Because switches are layer two.

762
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,440
And they're like no this is real.

763
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,680
This is a layer three switch.

764
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,040
And I'm like you need to explain.

765
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,560
And then so I find out some switches are capable of layer three.

766
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:13,920
You can take a regular port, make it layer three so it can route.

767
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,280
And it's just unique to that one specific port.

768
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,800
My mind was just blown.

769
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,800
I'm like a switch can be layer two or layer three.

770
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,800
This is amazing.

771
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:32,760
Well and to be to be frank in the world that we live in still network two is enough for

772
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,160
most things.

773
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,160
Yes.

774
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,520
What do you get when you add layer three?

775
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:44,240
You can have multiple networks in your network and route traffic accordingly.

776
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:49,400
So you could have your standard regular network that most of your device is on.

777
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,400
Yep.

778
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,440
In this day and age you've got some kind of IoT device in your house whether it's a thermostat

779
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:02,880
or something that is home automation, Apple TV, Chromecast, you name it.

780
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,920
There's something IoT in your house most likely in this day and age.

781
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,320
You don't necessarily want those talking to everything else on your network.

782
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,760
You can now create a unique network for your IoT devices.

783
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,560
And now you can say if you want to talk to that you've got to go through this port and

784
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,140
route over here.

785
00:43:23,140 --> 00:43:24,280
That is basically how that works.

786
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,720
Now this isn't the same thing as a router.

787
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:30,000
We'll get into that in a second.

788
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,720
There is a specific difference between a router and a layer three switch port.

789
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:35,840
Sure.

790
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,720
But it's amazing what you can do.

791
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:41,080
Yeah.

792
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:48,480
I mean I'm trying to figure out because like I don't want to make it more.

793
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,240
Why don't we talk about routers and then we can come back to layer three.

794
00:43:51,240 --> 00:44:00,640
Because I don't want to talk about what I was about to say about the way to think about

795
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:06,160
multiple networks without talking about routing.

796
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,840
Because it's a specific...

797
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,600
That could get confusing real fast.

798
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,600
Sorry.

799
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,600
Okay.

800
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,600
I can see how this is going to...

801
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,440
So routers, layer three.

802
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,600
IP addresses all day long.

803
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,120
Routers can have multiple ports.

804
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:32,840
Each port connects to a specific network and you set rules inside on how to route accordingly.

805
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:39,200
If you are going looking for this destination then you need to go to port one.

806
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,200
You're looking for this other destination.

807
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,040
You need to go to port three.

808
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,200
That's what's happening in there all day long based off IP addresses.

809
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,600
So if you think about...

810
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,800
I'm trying to make sure that this isn't going to get confusing.

811
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,600
If you think about mailing addresses.

812
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Okay.

813
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,600
Yep.

814
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,600
You have a street address.

815
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,600
Yep.

816
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,600
That's an IP address.

817
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,600
Fair.

818
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,600
Yep.

819
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,160
Or maybe a MAC address.

820
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,080
Anyway an IP address.

821
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:20,880
And then you have a... like the city, state, zip code.

822
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:29,200
And really all you really need now, I guess we can talk about this, is the zip code.

823
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,560
Because the zip codes aren't...

824
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,840
We don't have repeating zip codes in different states.

825
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,040
Correct.

826
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:41,240
The five digit zip code, they're in the United States.

827
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:43,680
Yep, they're all unique.

828
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,680
All unique.

829
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:50,880
So if you see the IP address, layer two...

830
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,840
Layer three.

831
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,240
IP is layer three.

832
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:56,240
Sorry.

833
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:00,760
IP address in layer three as...

834
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:08,080
Well maybe that's what I was going to say is that it was the MAC address in layer two.

835
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,080
Man that got confusing.

836
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,080
Never mind.

837
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:15,640
You could probably say city, state, zip is...

838
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,160
You can think of that as IP.

839
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,880
Your actual street address is the MAC.

840
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:30,760
Because the MAC is the unique identifier where the city and zip can technically all be a

841
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,760
shared resource.

842
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:37,120
Well I was trying to do like IP address...

843
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,200
Because an IP address inside of a network.

844
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,200
You know what I mean?

845
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:45,400
Like you have to get inside of the network before this IP address is actually what you're

846
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,240
talking to and that's through your router.

847
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:49,320
Correct.

848
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,040
Because the router has to have the external IP address.

849
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,360
Correct.

850
00:46:54,360 --> 00:47:00,520
And this is partially because IPv4 has how many options?

851
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,880
You remember this off the top of your head?

852
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:03,880
Total IPs?

853
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,880
Oh boy.

854
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:15,680
I'm blanking on the total number but I know we finally used them all.

855
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,680
And that's the thing.

856
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:25,720
IPv6 is important now because of running out of IPv4 addresses and if you know how many

857
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:30,000
that is, like that's a big accomplishment.

858
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Way to go world.

859
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,000
4.29 billion IPv4 addresses.

860
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,400
And that's not enough.

861
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,520
Not anymore.

862
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,160
So IPv6 is a thing.

863
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,160
Yes.

864
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:52,080
And so one of the ways that we've combated this is to have IP addresses like...

865
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:57,080
You have IP addresses inside of IP addresses.

866
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,800
And that's what your router is doing.

867
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,960
Would you like to know how many are in IPv6?

868
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,960
That's a lot.

869
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,960
I actually didn't know that this was a real number.

870
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,960
340 undecillion.

871
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,960
Undecillion?

872
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,960
U-N-D-E-C-I-L-L-I-O-N.

873
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:21,840
Yeah, that seems made up.

874
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,400
They were undecided so they just made it undecillion.

875
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,280
We don't actually know how big this number is so we're saying undecided.

876
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,880
Two to the 128th power.

877
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:34,880
That's a big number.

878
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,280
That's a big number.

879
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,600
Just think of how many AI bots are going to be able to be born with their own independent

880
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,600
IP address.

881
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,520
Don't get me started on AI.

882
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,260
So I think I can make your analogy work though.

883
00:48:49,260 --> 00:48:53,620
So in your house you have your router.

884
00:48:53,620 --> 00:48:58,960
That router gets a unique IP address from your provider.

885
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:08,400
Inside of your router, multiple devices, multiple IPs, but again they have a unique MAC ID.

886
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:18,440
So going into your analogy, city, state, zip can still be considered the IP because the

887
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,480
nature that in your home router that public IP is shared.

888
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,960
So city, state, and zip, again that's that same shared resource.

889
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:34,560
Now to go beyond that, it needs the actual street address which is now your unique MAC

890
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,960
ID.

891
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,360
That's how you get that next layer in.

892
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:44,120
I'm going from the IP, now I'm going to the truly unique spot which is my actual home

893
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,360
address.

894
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,680
So I think that kind of completes the analogy.

895
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,800
I think the reason that I was saying still IP address on that was because you can have

896
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:02,520
different zip codes, you can have the same address used again which would be the IP address

897
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,160
not the MAC ID because those are always different.

898
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:15,560
Anyway, all that to say, it gets super confusing because there's layers and this onion stinks.

899
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,240
I'm going to stop talking because obviously I'm making this more confusing than it has

900
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,240
to be.

901
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:21,240
Talk to us about routers.

902
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:22,840
Are you saying the bear is kicking in already?

903
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,840
No.

904
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,320
Okay, so again, most of us know a router.

905
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,560
I go to Best Buy.

906
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,560
Only 7% by volume.

907
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,600
Only 7, the last one that we did was 10.

908
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,280
So you go to Best Buy and you say, I need a router.

909
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,240
They're going to give you a link sys, they're going to give you a D-link.

910
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:40,920
It's not just a router.

911
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,920
It's a router, it's a firewall, it's a switch, it's an access point.

912
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:53,480
But that's basically, it has the routing capability in it that it can route between multiple networks

913
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,080
and knows how to do it.

914
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,400
It knows how to keep track of all those IPs.

915
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,920
It learns those IPs exist on different ports so it can pass that off.

916
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,680
But in order to still communicate that, you still also have to have the MAC ID.

917
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,960
The IP is not necessarily good enough.

918
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,480
It's good enough at layer 3 to get you ultimately into the network that you need to be, but

919
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,480
you still need that layer 2 MAC to know where am I really going in the end.

920
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,480
Yeah, it's like a handshake.

921
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:28,440
So, you would do an ARP call, say I've got this IP, what's your MAC?

922
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,680
That kind of gets blasted out, responds back, it learns it.

923
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:34,680
Great.

924
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,960
Next time I don't have to ask where you are, I already know where to go.

925
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,200
You're at that IP address.

926
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,200
Yes.

927
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,840
You're there, delivered to that MAC ID, and Bob's your uncle.

928
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,840
Fred's your grandmother.

929
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:47,840
Yes.

930
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,840
So, thank you, routers.

931
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,440
Yes, routers are huge.

932
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,440
They're huge.

933
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,680
So, coming back then to the layer 3 switch.

934
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,200
Layer 3 switch.

935
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,880
So we'll talk about the church's network structure.

936
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,400
It's all unified, if anybody's out there wondering.

937
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,400
Don't hack us.

938
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,520
Yes, please don't.

939
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,720
Jesus is watching.

940
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:16,720
Please don't.

941
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:20,640
So, we have the Dream Machine SE.

942
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,640
Yes we do.

943
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:22,640
That is firewall.

944
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,640
That is router.

945
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:29,640
And it also does the routing.

946
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,040
And it also has a built-in switch.

947
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,040
It does.

948
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:41,280
So, it's a beefy version of what you would go buy for home.

949
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:47,040
We don't usually use it as a switch.

950
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,080
We have a switch in that building that will remain unnamed.

951
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,160
But it plugs into the switch port.

952
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,160
That's true.

953
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,160
So, there is some switching going on.

954
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,320
I didn't think about that.

955
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,000
There's one port being on that switch.

956
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,000
There is.

957
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,400
Everything else is going out the Fiber SFP, which essentially is a switch port as well.

958
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,480
Okay, you got me.

959
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,480
Yes.

960
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,680
So, that's how it's set up.

961
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,160
It's handling all the routing.

962
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:25,040
Now without going too far in the weeds here, the Pro switch that is in the grade school

963
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,720
building is capable of layer 3.

964
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:28,720
Yes it is.

965
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:31,080
So, if we ever wanted to offload, we could.

966
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,400
Yeah, and we did that on purpose when we bought it.

967
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,160
I don't remember all the details.

968
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:46,280
So something that happens is this church that we're at is not your typical church.

969
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,920
We exist on 130 something acres.

970
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,960
We have four buildings now.

971
00:53:53,960 --> 00:54:00,520
Wait, one, two, three, four, ish.

972
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,520
Depends on if you count.

973
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,240
This one is separate from that one.

974
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:04,240
True.

975
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:10,800
And they're spread out, and the idea was that it would look more like a college campus than

976
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,200
your normal church, which I love.

977
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,600
It's great, and there's trees and a lake, and it's fantastic.

978
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:23,040
But it means that we're spread out, and part of being spread out is that the power goes

979
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:28,280
out on half of our campus and does not necessarily take down the other half.

980
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:35,920
And so the idea that we've done in multiple areas, as Chris is going to explain, is having

981
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:43,300
redundancy.

982
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:51,960
And so the idea was if we lose the student building or a building that will remain unnamed,

983
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:58,480
that certain gear is in, that the rest of the network can keep functioning.

984
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,080
There you go.

985
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,840
Anyway, so we needed a layer three switch.

986
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,400
Yes, so we've got that.

987
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,400
So too much information?

988
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,880
No, I think we're fine.

989
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,560
We didn't tell them where the keys are at.

990
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,000
So don't look under the mat.

991
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,440
Yeah, don't look under the mat.

992
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,240
The magic number is not the address of the building.

993
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:28,400
Oh my gosh, that'd be terrible.

994
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,400
Yes.

995
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,120
Oh boy, what it makes me think of the scene in Spaceballs.

996
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,120
One, two, three.

997
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,120
Yes, four.

998
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,120
One, two, three, four.

999
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,120
That's the same code as my luggage.

1000
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,120
Make it back.

1001
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,120
Remind me to change the code in my luggage.

1002
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,120
Oh, what a movie.

1003
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,120
Thank you, Millbrooks.

1004
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:50,720
I mean, it's for so many things, but yes, for that as well.

1005
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:57,640
Okay, so back, if I can remember where I was going with that thought, layer three.

1006
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,160
So here we do have multiple networks.

1007
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,360
We have our main network.

1008
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,200
We have a guest network.

1009
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:08,440
We have, there's another one.

1010
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,440
Operations network.

1011
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,440
There you go, operations network.

1012
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,720
We have AV network.

1013
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:13,720
AV.

1014
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:18,280
We had the video, but I don't remember if we're still leveraging that one or not.

1015
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,800
So you have all these networks.

1016
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,360
You can break this apart.

1017
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,960
You don't want everything on one giant network.

1018
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,200
It gets too congested.

1019
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,520
You have poor performance.

1020
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,080
So when you get large enough, you've got to break it up.

1021
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:37,880
So we created these smaller networks, also referred to as VLAN or virtual LAN.

1022
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,360
Your router can handle that.

1023
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,800
It goes, oh, you need to go there.

1024
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,680
I'm going to route you over here.

1025
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:50,800
And that's how you route between networks versus switching between ports to get to different

1026
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,840
computers.

1027
00:56:52,840 --> 00:57:00,600
So now you can go crazy and you can over segment or hyper segment your network.

1028
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:01,600
You said hyper segment.

1029
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,600
And it's a term.

1030
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:03,600
There you go.

1031
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,020
And it's a thing.

1032
00:57:06,020 --> 00:57:08,520
You can totally go there if you want to do that.

1033
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:13,400
But you're going to deal with all the overhead management that it may entail.

1034
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,600
So you want to really try to right size your network.

1035
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:21,240
Yeah, which we found out at one point we were undersized in our network.

1036
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,840
And that's why we did this change.

1037
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,320
And it was not easy.

1038
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:25,320
No.

1039
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,760
But it's nice to know that it's done.

1040
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,760
Yeah.

1041
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,440
Because now we're future proofed for a while.

1042
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:32,440
That's the plan.

1043
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,200
Depends on how much more the church keeps growing.

1044
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,300
Let's not right now.

1045
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:41,760
So that's what layer three does.

1046
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,360
So you have switches that can handle that for you.

1047
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:52,180
In our situation, the switch can offload that work off of the UDM, which frees up resources

1048
00:57:52,180 --> 00:57:53,480
on the UDM.

1049
00:57:53,480 --> 00:58:00,200
So if we ever found that the UDM was just like under taxed, we could immediately offload.

1050
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,920
Which we did at one point also have that problem.

1051
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,480
But that was on the previous UDM.

1052
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,080
Yeah, there was a UDM that was made by Ubiquiti.

1053
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,400
And I don't think they make it anymore.

1054
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,640
No, it was the original UDM.

1055
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,360
It was just underpowered.

1056
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,360
Yeah.

1057
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,840
Really struggled behind on the OS.

1058
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,480
It just not good.

1059
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,840
And it ultimately died due to a bad death storm.

1060
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:32,280
With electricity and all kinds of not ones and zeros.

1061
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,720
Yeah, it was bad.

1062
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,040
So we got the SE and it's been great.

1063
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,160
It has been great.

1064
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,280
Special Edition, great.

1065
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,280
I don't know.

1066
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,280
What does the SE stand for?

1067
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,280
No, it is Special Edition.

1068
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,280
Oh my gosh.

1069
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:48,280
That's terrible.

1070
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,280
You're right.

1071
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,120
Why don't be that guy.

1072
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:59,000
But we could offload it, free up resources, and you're great.

1073
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,040
And you can live within Unifi, you can have multiple devices or capable of layer three,

1074
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,360
you just tell it where does it need to go.

1075
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,320
And it takes care of it for you.

1076
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,640
It's really nice.

1077
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:13,640
Layer three.

1078
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:14,640
Layer three.

1079
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:15,640
Very important.

1080
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:16,760
IPs, not Macs.

1081
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:17,760
Not Macs.

1082
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:18,760
Sorry.

1083
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,760
Macs, layer two.

1084
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,760
Layer two.

1085
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:28,960
IPs do have, now I'm going to draw a blank.

1086
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:29,960
Octets.

1087
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:30,960
There it is.

1088
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:31,960
Octets.

1089
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,200
So everybody's typically familiar with IPv4.

1090
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,080
192.168.1.1.

1091
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,640
Each one of those is an octet.

1092
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,560
What associates with that is a network mask.

1093
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:51,080
The mask ultimately helps you take that number and know this is the network portion of it.

1094
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,880
This is the host.

1095
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:53,880
Subnet mask.

1096
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,880
Subnet mask.

1097
00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:00,680
You see that on a menu somewhere.

1098
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,600
Yes.

1099
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,840
What is it asking for a mask for?

1100
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:05,840
Yes.

1101
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,240
Subnet mask.

1102
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:16,200
Yeah, so depending on how big you need the network to be, talking about having the right

1103
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:22,240
size network for the right size, you have a different number of octets that you can...

1104
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,840
Well, you have four octets.

1105
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:24,840
Sorry.

1106
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:25,840
But you can play with...

1107
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,440
You have a different number of...

1108
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:28,800
You can play with the bits.

1109
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:29,800
How many bits?

1110
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,800
There's eight bits in an octet.

1111
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,080
And depending on how you...

1112
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,840
That's why it's called an octet.

1113
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:36,840
Yes.

1114
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,840
Eight.

1115
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:38,840
Eight.

1116
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:39,840
An octagon of...

1117
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:40,840
You can...

1118
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:41,840
Never mind.

1119
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:42,840
Don't say that.

1120
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:43,840
That is the beer.

1121
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:44,840
Yes.

1122
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:45,840
There you go.

1123
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,560
You can steal bits from an octet to have...

1124
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:56,800
Increase the number of networks available, which inherently shrinks the number of...

1125
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,480
No, let me back that.

1126
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,480
Train up.

1127
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:02,480
Yeah.

1128
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:07,960
Fewer networks, fewer hosts, fewer networks, more hosts.

1129
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,800
Yes.

1130
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:16,240
As you steal bits to increase the number of networks, you're stealing the possible amount

1131
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:21,200
of bits that are left for individual host IPs for your devices.

1132
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,200
Yeah.

1133
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,600
Because you're stealing going to the right.

1134
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:32,320
As you steal going to the left, now you're increasing the number of host or IPs are available

1135
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,920
but shrinking the total number of potential networks.

1136
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,840
Is that clear as night?

1137
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:39,840
Yeah.

1138
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:48,480
I mean, I think it's a little bit strange because if you go all the way to the right,

1139
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:49,480
does that make sense?

1140
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:50,480
You can take...

1141
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,480
252.252 or 255.255.255.

1142
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,480
255.255.255.255.255.2.0 or 255.0.

1143
01:01:52,480 --> 01:02:09,040
So you're talking four 255s because you said go all the way to the right 255, 255, 255,

1144
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,520
255.

1145
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,240
Yeah.

1146
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,400
Most of the time you've got 255, 255, 255.

1147
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:16,400
Zero.

1148
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,400
Yes.

1149
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:22,120
So what you're referring to though, when you have four 255s, that is a broadcast address.

1150
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,880
You can't use that.

1151
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,600
Well, yeah.

1152
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,800
Whereas if you have...

1153
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:34,200
So like, yeah, that's a broadcast.

1154
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:41,440
Let's talk about 255.255.255.0, which is what most people have on their personal subnet

1155
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,480
mask or personal home internet subnet.

1156
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,520
That matches your 192.168.1.whatever.

1157
01:02:49,520 --> 01:03:01,640
So with that 255.255.255, you know that 192.168.1 in this scenario, that is all the network.

1158
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,560
That's all that's going to be.

1159
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:09,920
That last dot, that dot zero, that's where you pull your IPs from for total number of

1160
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:10,920
hosts.

1161
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,960
Which is 254 options.

1162
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,680
Yes.

1163
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:26,960
Because dot zero is the network, if you will, and 255 is your broadcast for that whole network.

1164
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:32,080
So you can use one through 254, which I guess is technically 253.

1165
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,520
Yeah, I guess so.

1166
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,320
So 253 hosts.

1167
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,960
Because the broadcast, stupid broadcast.

1168
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:53,560
But when you take the third 255 and you make it 252, what did you shrink?

1169
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,000
Because what you just opened up was a ton of IP addresses.

1170
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,080
You took away...

1171
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:06,000
You shrunk the maximum number of networks that you can have, but you increased the number

1172
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:11,220
of hosts that can exist on those networks.

1173
01:04:11,220 --> 01:04:16,160
So that's where you've got to be careful, because you can make your networks, the total

1174
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,880
number is still huge for you.

1175
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:23,920
But in the process, now you've made it possible that there could be so many active hosts on

1176
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,520
one network that it's just saturated beyond belief.

1177
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:33,520
Yeah, you definitely have to have the hardware necessary for it to spread out.

1178
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,840
Yeah, and at some point, even your hardware can't keep up.

1179
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,560
There are so many devices communicating at the same time, there's only so much bandwidth

1180
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,360
on that one gig port.

1181
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:49,560
You can saturate it and you're stuck.

1182
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:55,080
Which we learned in that one video installation, that it only takes a handful of cameras to

1183
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,800
flood a one gig port.

1184
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,800
Wait, what are you talking about?

1185
01:04:58,800 --> 01:04:59,800
Oh, the NDI.

1186
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,680
Oh my gosh.

1187
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,560
I think it was like four, maybe six cameras at the most.

1188
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,800
And it was completely flooded out of one gig port.

1189
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:09,800
It was four.

1190
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,880
It was literally beyond that, it was a nightmare.

1191
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,280
It just wasn't going to work.

1192
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:23,860
We had three cameras that could have been SDI, could have been HDMI, and we chose to

1193
01:05:23,860 --> 01:05:27,040
try to do NDI.

1194
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:31,280
And we did three of those and then we had an extra one that we were going to use that

1195
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,420
was going to be a portable camera.

1196
01:05:34,420 --> 01:05:36,160
That did not work.

1197
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:40,360
That was too much for this little church to handle.

1198
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,360
We tried.

1199
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,720
Little church network.

1200
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,200
So those are all wired in differently.

1201
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:50,160
We messed around and found out, some people might say.

1202
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,960
Yeah, no, absolutely.

1203
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:53,960
Anyway.

1204
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:54,960
Okay.

1205
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,560
Anything else in this room you want to talk about?

1206
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,960
I know we're probably getting about to time.

1207
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:05,080
We're probably at time, but like, I mean, there's just so much to talk about with that.

1208
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,720
All right, just nerd question.

1209
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,120
What's the biggest network?

1210
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,240
Maybe I guess both directions.

1211
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,240
What's the most number of hosts?

1212
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:18,600
Now you're getting into...

1213
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,600
That you've had.

1214
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:20,600
No, no, no.

1215
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,800
This is a personal experience.

1216
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,960
I'm not asking for the theoretical.

1217
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:30,120
I want to know what have you set up?

1218
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,240
Most number of hosts, most number of networks.

1219
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,240
This is where you're going to go.

1220
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,240
This is how people get canceled.

1221
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,240
Why?

1222
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:43,200
Because this is such a highly debated topic.

1223
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,200
Oh, whatever.

1224
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,280
Oh, you say whatever.

1225
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:47,640
Who's going to cancel us?

1226
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,200
There's a guy listening.

1227
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,480
Okay.

1228
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,320
Wayne Lyon.

1229
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,600
Amazing dude.

1230
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,080
Works for Flare Data.

1231
01:06:55,080 --> 01:07:00,120
If you need somebody, those are the guys to go to.

1232
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:06,080
He would tell me that as I, my network at Pine Cove is this right now, I have too many

1233
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,440
hosts in my network.

1234
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,960
I politely disagree.

1235
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,560
I understand his rationale.

1236
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:13,560
I get it.

1237
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,840
I do.

1238
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,720
I just happen to disagree.

1239
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,800
So we don't hold it against each other.

1240
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:21,800
He knows what we're doing.

1241
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:22,800
I know what he needs to do.

1242
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,400
He's not going to cancel us though.

1243
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:32,880
No, but you know, this is like, I mean, this is like debating what's the best translation

1244
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:33,880
of the Bible almost.

1245
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,360
I mean, everybody has their preferred preference.

1246
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,400
Whoa, buddy.

1247
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,200
I mean, this can get, this can get heated with different people.

1248
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,200
Because some are like, some are like, what are you talking about?

1249
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:46,200
Yes.

1250
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:51,200
Some would be like, you shouldn't have more than 253 hosts in an entire network.

1251
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,300
What?

1252
01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:53,600
Some people take it to an extreme.

1253
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:58,520
Some would say, okay, now you need to give a little bit, stop at 512.

1254
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,840
If I remember correctly, that's about where Wayne is at.

1255
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,240
Don't go larger than 512.

1256
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,240
In a network.

1257
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,860
In a single network.

1258
01:08:06,860 --> 01:08:09,800
So do they know how many?

1259
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:10,800
Nevermind.

1260
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:17,320
Well, that's, that's why we didn't go with it because we have so many people that could

1261
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,880
be there that are sharing a subnet.

1262
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,280
It was like, I need a little bit more than 512.

1263
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,840
I'm going to stop at 1024.

1264
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,520
And some people are like, whoa, buddy, that's too big.

1265
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,320
I'm like, no, it's fine.

1266
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:33,320
It works.

1267
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:38,320
And then there are some that go way beyond that just because they're like, you know what?

1268
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,400
I'm never going to have that many devices.

1269
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,880
I have more than enough networks that I'm ever going to need.

1270
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,080
I don't care what y'all's opinion are.

1271
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,360
This works.

1272
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:53,560
So the opinions are all over the place and people believe in their way of carving up

1273
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,760
a network for performance.

1274
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,480
Chris is 1024 the biggest you've gone?

1275
01:08:59,480 --> 01:09:05,920
No, I've actually worked on a network that had 4096.

1276
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,060
We had 4096 networks.

1277
01:09:08,060 --> 01:09:09,720
If you cancel us, so help me.

1278
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:10,720
I am going to.

1279
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:18,280
Yes, I can, I can just imagine Wayne going, you had how many hosts on a network?

1280
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,920
Yes, 4096 possible networks.

1281
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:26,040
Each networks had the ability to have 4096 hosts.

1282
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,960
No, say that again.

1283
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,780
4096 different networks.

1284
01:09:31,780 --> 01:09:38,040
Each network can have 4096 individual hosts on each network.

1285
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,920
Now I just got a little dizzy.

1286
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,980
Yeah, then kind of throw up in my mouth.

1287
01:09:43,980 --> 01:09:49,760
If you had that many devices active on a network, forget it, that network is toast.

1288
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,920
I get why people will be like, no, that's too much.

1289
01:09:53,920 --> 01:10:03,960
So at home, I don't have any network that's capable of more than 253.

1290
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:09,040
But I'm also never going to have 253 active devices at home.

1291
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,040
No.

1292
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:14,720
But again, you got to figure out the size that you need for what you're trying to do.

1293
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,400
Yes, right fit for what you're doing, but also allow growth.

1294
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:23,920
Yeah, because you don't want to bang into the top of that.

1295
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:28,080
That gets really complicated because then you got to do a big fix.

1296
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,960
That happened a long time ago when we were in Columbus that time for staff retreat at

1297
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,120
the Outback.

1298
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:42,200
And we had everybody in the Outback dining hall, and we ran out of IP addresses.

1299
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:46,480
That was the same event where body was given a hard time over it.

1300
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:52,000
And we turned off his Google account.

1301
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,000
No more fun for you.

1302
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:57,800
And yes, and then he came out on stage and next time, guys, you know how great our IT

1303
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,040
staff is.

1304
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,040
It's one of those things.

1305
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:07,320
Like I understand, man, you're muscular, you're a jock, you take any of us in a fight, whatever

1306
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:11,480
that thing is, you're super macho.

1307
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:13,480
I have all of the cards.

1308
01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:14,760
Look at what I can do.

1309
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,200
Click everything that you want.

1310
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:19,640
I have control over.

1311
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:20,640
Yes.

1312
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,640
Don't play that game.

1313
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:22,640
Yes.

1314
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,400
Don't make fun of them.

1315
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:25,640
Don't make fun of the IT guy.

1316
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:26,640
Yeah.

1317
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,640
Take care of your IT guys.

1318
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,200
Yeah, remember to tip your IT guy.

1319
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:34,200
Yes.

1320
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,600
We'll be here all week.

1321
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:40,560
Someday you're going to need them and they're going to remember who is nice and who is mean.

1322
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,040
I just had a Billy Madison flashback.

1323
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,040
Okay.

1324
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:45,040
All right.

1325
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,040
Hey, man.

1326
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,040
Thanks for hanging out.

1327
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,040
Yeah, enjoyed it.

1328
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,040
It's been a while.

1329
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,440
Thanks for bringing the beer.

1330
01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:51,440
That was good.

1331
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:52,440
That was so good.

1332
01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:54,000
I should have bought two.

1333
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,600
So Premiere, Chameh Premier.

1334
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,080
Chameh Premier, I can highly recommend.

1335
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,320
I think it has our vote.

1336
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:07,920
It's just, it's not, I agree with you.

1337
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,680
It's drier and that's nice somehow.

1338
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:11,680
It is.

1339
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:12,680
Yep.

1340
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,240
Still recommend the Grand Reserve too.

1341
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,240
Sure.

1342
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:16,240
Also good.

1343
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,240
Support the monks.

1344
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:18,240
Yes, support the monks, people.

1345
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,880
That's going to be a war cry for us now.

1346
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:22,880
Go Friar Tuck.

1347
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:23,880
Go Friar Tuck.

1348
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:24,880
All right.

1349
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:25,880
Thanks, brother.

1350
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:26,880
All right.

1351
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:27,880
Enjoyed it, man.

1352
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:28,880
Appreciate it.

1353
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:29,880
See you, everybody.

1354
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:30,880
Hey, everybody.

1355
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:31,880
Beer and Gear is a value for value podcast.

1356
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:32,880
If you made it this far, then I would like to thank you for watching.

1357
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:33,880
I'm sure you did too.

1358
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:34,880
You're welcome.

1359
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:35,880
We'll see you next time.

1360
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:36,880
Bye.

1361
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:37,880
Bye.

1362
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:38,880
Bye.

1363
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:39,880
Bye.

1364
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:40,880
Bye.

1365
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:41,880
Bye.

1366
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:42,880
Bye.

1367
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:43,880
Bye.

1368
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:44,880
Bye.

1369
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:45,880
Bye.

1370
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:46,880
Bye.

1371
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:47,880
Bye.

1372
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:48,880
Bye.

1373
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:49,880
Bye.

1374
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:50,880
Bye.

1375
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:51,880
Bye.

1376
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:52,880
Bye.

1377
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:53,880
Bye.

1378
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:54,880
Bye.

1379
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:55,880
Bye.

1380
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:56,880
Bye.

1381
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:57,880
Bye.

1382
01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:58,880
Bye.

1383
01:12:58,880 --> 01:12:59,880
Bye.

1384
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:00,880
Bye.

1385
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:01,880
Bye.

1386
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:02,880
Bye.

1387
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:03,880
Bye.

1388
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:04,880
Bye.

1389
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:05,880
Bye.

1390
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:06,880
Bye.

1391
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:07,880
Bye.

1392
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:08,880
Bye.

1393
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:09,880
Bye.

1394
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:10,880
Bye.

1395
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:11,880
Bye.

1396
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:12,880
Bye.

1397
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,880
Bye.

1398
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:14,880
Bye.

1399
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:15,880
Bye.

1400
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:16,880
Bye.

1401
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:17,880
Bye.

1402
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:18,880
Bye.

1403
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:19,880
He.

1404
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:20,720
He.

1405
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:21,720
He.

1406
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,560
Oh, God.

1407
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:24,480
He.

1408
01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:25,480
Greetings, positions.

1409
01:13:25,480 --> 01:13:26,480
Oh, God.