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Hey, welcome to Beering Gear.

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Hey everybody, how you doing?

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I mean, we're feeling pretty good over here.

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I've got Shiner Bock in my hand.

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Yes, you do.

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Thank you, Chris.

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Sure, no problem.

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I appreciate the beer.

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It's good to see your face.

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It is.

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Good to be back.

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What are you drinking?

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I have another one from Michigan.

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It's Dragon's Milk Stout.

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It's bourbon barrel aged.

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See, I like the bourbon barrel aged.

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Yes.

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I've done beer bourbon barrel aged and I've done wine bourbon barrel aged.

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Okay.

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You ever experienced that?

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Not wine.

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Are you much of a wine drinker?

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No, no, no.

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I like wine.

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And there's a few of them.

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One of them is like the Thief or Cooper or something.

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I don't remember.

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But it comes in a really cool looking bottle.

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It's like that short fat bottle, short fat wine bottle.

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Okay, yeah.

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It's like you're drinking at a tavern somewhere in London in the 1700s.

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Anyway, and it's a wine, like some sort of red blend that's aged in bourbon barrels and

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it's really good.

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I'll try to get the name of it for next time.

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Yeah, I'm afraid the extent of wine in our house is when we're stepping through the Lord

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Supper with the kids and we try to keep it official and not just grape juice.

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Yeah, right.

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And so we pour just a little bit, take a swig and the rest of the bottle tends to go down

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the drain.

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Yeah.

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You look Lutheran.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like all my other blonde headed friends that are of the Lutheran persuasion.

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I borrowed the idea from the Catholics.

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There you go.

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For sure.

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I've only done actual wine with communion a few times and it's never like good wine,

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which I feel like is a mistake.

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Like sure.

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It seems like if you're taking communion, shouldn't this be like the best wine you have?

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I think that's why the Catholics do what they do.

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It's a very specific wine.

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Yeah.

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Done for only that.

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Yeah.

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Hopefully it's good.

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I've never actually had.

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I've never had it.

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Anyway, part taken of it.

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Let's just stick to beer.

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Absolutely.

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Cheers.

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Cheers.

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Oh yeah.

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Is it good?

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It's good.

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Good.

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It's good.

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The.

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Thank you, Jason.

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Yes.

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Thank you, Jason.

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This is the second one that he's given me recently.

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Okay.

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I had done the red label, which was a Porter and it was, I believe it was bourbon barrel

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age as well.

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Michigan man.

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Yep.

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All right.

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Well, yep.

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Got to log that one away.

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Yep.

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Dragon's milk.

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There you go.

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Go find it.

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Anyway, or you already know about it because we just, you know.

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Yep.

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Know about it now for sure.

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Yep.

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All right.

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Today we're talking about Wi-Fi.

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Yes, we are.

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All things Wi-Fi and if you're sitting at home thinking like, I, you know, my router

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was just being weird.

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You might be talking about the wrong thing because I will say you only have two of these

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listed but the three pieces of gear that you probably have at home that you either are

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the same piece of gear or they're all split out that you don't know that you have are

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a router.

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Yes.

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Modem.

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Yes.

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And an AP.

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Yes.

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And depending on what you're using, there's also a switch.

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Switch.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So four.

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Thank you for that.

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Yes.

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So usually router and switches combined, usually in home situations, modem, router, switch

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combined.

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Especially if you get it from your ISP.

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Yeah.

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And then especially like if you're thinking I only have one box, it's because if you have

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wireless access to your internet at home, you have a router or a modem.

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I'm trying to do this in here.

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Modem, router, combo.

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Modem, router, combo.

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Yes.

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With an AP built into it.

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Yes.

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What do these words mean, Chris?

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Well start with Wi-Fi.

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Wi-Fi.

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It really doesn't mean anything.

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I was surprised.

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All these years I thought it was short for something.

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All it is is just a marketing acronym that was thrown together.

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Yeah.

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I mean you said that on here.

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This is a marketing acronym, but this obviously is playing off of Hi-Fi.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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I mean you could think of it as wireless fidelity.

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Yeah.

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High fidelity is Hi-Fi if you've ever heard of Hi-Fi when it comes to like stereo.

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Yes.

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Whatever.

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But wireless, like Wi-Fi, wireless fidelity is not a thing.

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Like no, not really.

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Not really.

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So Wi-Fi was just like a catchy thing.

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Absolutely.

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It's not, it's like a brand, it's like Xerox.

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They did a good job because it stuck.

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Yeah.

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It stuck hard.

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Like nobody talks about it in any other way.

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There's not, I talk about copying paper instead of Xeroxing things.

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That only lasted for a while.

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Wi-Fi is not going anywhere.

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No, it's not.

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It is not.

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So I guess we'll kind of get into what we've got here.

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We've talked about if you got your hardware directly from your internet provider or ISP.

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ISP, Internet Service Provider.

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There you go.

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You probably have a poor experience in that opinion.

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And poor experience number one, because every ISP it seems like is a poor experience.

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You may have a better experience than you did with your last guy.

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Yes.

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But none of them are like knocking it out of the park.

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No, no, they're not.

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They're not.

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Come on guys.

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The gear that they're buying, you know, they're, I'm sure they're looking for, for best price.

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Best price.

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There's some reliability they got to be looking for because the number of questions that they

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have to answer is just ridiculous.

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Yeah.

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If you like to twist the geek knob, then you're not going to want their standard hardware.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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So no.

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And why is that?

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Because you can't do anything with it.

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If you even remotely want to get in and tweak things, make changes, add additional Wi-Fi

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networks.

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Some of them, I guess, will technically let you have a guest network.

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But if you want to in any way get involved on the network side, you're not doing it with

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their gear.

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That's it.

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You can't even change the password to the Wi-Fi most of the time.

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It is stuck on what is on the sticker on the box.

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It's on the sticker.

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It's on the sticker.

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Yeah.

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That's, that's the hard, I was, when I was, my parents, when they got Wi-Fi at their house

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that they live in now, the, the, I was looking for the sticker on the box.

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It was not on the box.

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The sticker was on the router.

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Yes.

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And I was like, oh, okay, guys, like, yes.

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That's why it's imperative to change the password.

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You got to first thing, you got to figure this out because that's terrible.

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Yep.

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Anyway, do our listeners know that you're supposed to be changing your passwords at

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all?

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We haven't even talked about that.

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I sure hope they do with all the hacks that we've seen.

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Guys.

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Yes, do change your passwords, change them often.

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You're not going to change them often, at least make them fairly long.

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And then at least change it once a year.

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I used to not be a fan of password managers, but as I'm getting older, I'm getting older.

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It's getting harder to remember those passwords.

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Cause you don't want to just reuse the same password.

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Oh my gosh.

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No, don't do that.

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That's terrible.

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Your Wi-Fi password should not be your bank password.

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Oh, don't do that.

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Don't do that.

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So yeah, if you, regardless of whether you have there, well, you can't change theirs,

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but if you go buy something from Best Buy, like Linksys or D-Link, please change the

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password.

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That's the very first thing you should do once it's actually working.

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Yeah.

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And I was going to say, like we were talking about not, not settling for what the ISP gives

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you with gear.

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You don't have to go like find some ridiculous, like you don't have to have a, you don't

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have to have a, you know, no, it doesn't have to be CDW account to get this.

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Correct.

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You do not have to have Cisco gear or Meraki or Aruba or whoever you may have potentially

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heard of.

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Right.

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There's a few things you want to look for though.

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Yes.

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And what are those things?

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Well, for one that you can actually manage it.

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So what you'll want to look at is kind of roughly the size of your, of your house.

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If you just go buy an all-in-one Linksys or D-Link.

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What they give you when you, if you use your ISP.

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Yeah.

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If you use your ISP gear, you want to try to set it as I guess, as close to the center

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of your house as you can to try to get the best coverage.

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Yeah.

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And it's going to give you about a thousand square feet of coverage.

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Yeah.

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At best 1500.

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Yeah.

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Because once you start going through walls, depending on what your walls are made of and

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the thickness and any potential insulation in there, you're going to kill the signal.

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All my walls are concrete and lead, man.

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Oh, you need a AP on every side of the wall.

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That's right.

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I got it.

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I just got straight up bunkers.

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There you go.

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Every room.

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I feel like we know somebody that built a house like that.

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Yes, we do.

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And they probably do have APs in every room.

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Probably do.

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Yes.

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So in my opinion, don't take the ISP's hardware.

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Go buy your own.

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Yeah.

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Go buy a modem.

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Don't take from that monthly rental.

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No, gosh.

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Don't do that.

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Modems last a long time.

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Now get a kit.

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And you will pay for it in the first year.

272
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Oh, absolutely.

273
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Because they'll charge you five to 10 bucks a month to rent it.

274
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10 bucks.

275
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Absolutely.

276
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Easy.

277
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Easy 10 bucks for them.

278
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Just waste of money for you.

279
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Yeah.

280
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You can pick up a great modem for a hundred bucks.

281
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Easy.

282
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What are some things to be looking for to future proof your modem?

283
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I'm thinking of one thing in particular.

284
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Well, you've got to look at the model of, or I guess the version of DOCSIS.

285
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Please don't ask me to say what all the letters mean.

286
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Just know that it has to do with the way that the modem is talking into their network.

287
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You want to make sure that it is compatible with your service provider, which is a thing

288
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that you can look up on your service provider's website.

289
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They are going to have that.

290
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Or if you have a death wish, you can call in and wait.

291
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Don't do that.

292
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It should be on their website.

293
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It should be.

294
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Yeah.

295
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So at a minimum, you're going to want DOCSIS 3.

296
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Ideally, you would probably want to at least pick up DOCSIS 3.1.

297
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Yeah, I was going to say 3.2.

298
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If you can get a 3.2 and they support it, that's great.

299
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But even if you get DOCSIS 3.0, that will still support a full gig up and down.

300
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Yeah.

301
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And that's like a gig up and down, I would say is probably minimum of what you want to

302
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buy at this point.

303
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Yeah.

304
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I guess the one other thing you do have to take a look at when you're buying your modem

305
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is the number of channels.

306
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More channels means more speed.

307
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So I would buy more speed, more power.

308
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Now wait, I thought that my internet service provider was the one who decided how much

309
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speed I have.

310
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Well, they kind of do in the end.

311
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I was setting you up, man.

312
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You have an illusion of speed.

313
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You have an illusion of speed.

314
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Yes.

315
00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,240
So get at least 32 channels.

316
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That way you can effectively get, if you have the luxury of it, the ability, you can get

317
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that sweet gig up, gig down, take advantage of it.

318
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So yeah, it's there.

319
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Like it's HBO, one of the channels that I get.

320
00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,920
No, not that kind of channel.

321
00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,160
Nice try.

322
00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:11,240
So without getting too geeky, more channels means more bandwidth.

323
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They do a process called channel bonding, which makes all those channels behave as if

324
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it's one giant channel.

325
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Oh, you mean like Disney and National Geographic and all those guys are one channel right now.

326
00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,920
Is that what you're talking about?

327
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They're trying.

328
00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,160
So these channels will run a little bit separate from your cable.

329
00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,080
Sorry, this is me trying to muddy this as much as possible.

330
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I'm a little too far removed from working for Cox to remember quite how they did some

331
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of the channeling.

332
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But I do know that you had, I want to say at that time, there was at least eight channels

333
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for data and there was possibly four channels for video.

334
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And depending upon what package you had, determine which of those channels was potentially active

335
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for the service that you're looking for because a given channel would come or a given TV channel

336
00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,880
would go down a specific video channel with your service.

337
00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,880
Yeah.

338
00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,280
So that's Modem.

339
00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,920
It just jumped right over the head.

340
00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:18,920
Yes.

341
00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:24,960
So skip the service provider equipment, get your own Modem.

342
00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,520
At a minimum, get your own router.

343
00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:37,560
If you're going to buy in now, I would at least buy into Wi-Fi 6E if you can get it.

344
00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,560
Yeah.

345
00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,000
I wouldn't, I mean, maybe absolute worst case Wi-Fi 6, I would not do anything.

346
00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,160
What's referred to as Wi-Fi 5.

347
00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,160
Okay.

348
00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,720
So you just said, you just said Wi-Fi 6 and Wi-Fi 6E.

349
00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,960
What are all the Wi-Fis?

350
00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,080
Because I remember, I remember when we just called it Wi-Fi.

351
00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,920
Yes, that's all it used to be.

352
00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:00,920
Yeah.

353
00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:07,240
So there's seven that I would say that are now official because they just finally released

354
00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,480
the certification process for Wi-Fi 7.

355
00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:17,120
Wi-Fi 8 is out there, but nowhere near ready.

356
00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,120
Bleeding edge.

357
00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,120
Yeah.

358
00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:26,760
So we'll go back to the wee days of the internet with what is now referred to as Wi-Fi 1 back

359
00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:35,000
then it was 802.11a and it gave you a whopping 54 megabits per second.

360
00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,000
I don't know anybody that used that a, it was just 802.11.

361
00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,240
802.11, that's true.

362
00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,880
And that was typically referring to Wi-Fi version two, which is 802.11b.

363
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11 megabits.

364
00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:55,720
So not as fast, but it had punch and you could push it way farther.

365
00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,840
Okay.

366
00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:02,960
Then you could a, because a uses five gigahertz as you go up in frequency, it takes more power

367
00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,480
to get the same distance as a lower frequency.

368
00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,480
Right.

369
00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,920
So that's the nature of...

370
00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,760
We'll talk about the pluses of the higher frequency later.

371
00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:12,760
Go ahead.

372
00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,600
So you get into Wi-Fi version three, good old 802.11g.

373
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Also in 2.4.

374
00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,480
Also 2.4, yes.

375
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:28,240
But it got it up to 54 megabits, so it got basically b up to the equivalent of a.

376
00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,000
And then from there we jumped to Wi-Fi version four or 802.11.

377
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,000
Big jump.

378
00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,000
Big jump.

379
00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,920
That's when it got interesting because now you can leverage 2.4 gigahertz and 5 gigahertz

380
00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:44,600
and get it now this is theoretical, but you could technically get a maximum of 600 megabits

381
00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,600
per second.

382
00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,600
Yeah.

383
00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,400
I never knew anybody who was getting that.

384
00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,400
Sure.

385
00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,960
But it was a nice marketing number.

386
00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:51,960
It was.

387
00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,320
I remember when N came out.

388
00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,320
Yes.

389
00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,600
And it was like, what?

390
00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,600
Yeah.

391
00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:02,120
I would say G was kind of that first one that a lot of people were probably buying into.

392
00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,120
Yeah.

393
00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,240
And then N, it really started to explode.

394
00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,240
Yeah.

395
00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,640
And then we jumped to Wi-Fi five.

396
00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,640
Yeah.

397
00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:10,640
802.11ac.

398
00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,640
AC.

399
00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,920
It doesn't keep you cool though.

400
00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,880
Air conditioner not involved.

401
00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:21,680
Again, theoretical numbers here, a maximum of 6,933 megabits.

402
00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:27,120
Yes, that is the magic numbers for those who are listening.

403
00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:29,120
6.9 gigabits.

404
00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:30,120
Gigabits.

405
00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:31,120
Gigawatts.

406
00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:32,120
Gigawatts.

407
00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:34,280
There you go.

408
00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,720
Again using 2.4 and 5 gigahertz.

409
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,720
Yeah.

410
00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,440
When we get into what's called spatial streams, we'll explain how they made some of these

411
00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,760
magic numbers happen.

412
00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:43,760
Yeah.

413
00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,080
And then from there you go to Wi-Fi 6 and 6E.

414
00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,120
That is referred to as 802.11ax.

415
00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:52,120
You lost me.

416
00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:57,440
Well, that, to me, that's, this is the minimum where you should buy in if you're buying.

417
00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,440
Right now, yeah.

418
00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,840
If you can afford the 6E or even if you can afford 7, go for it.

419
00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,840
But the average person at least get Wi-Fi 6 if not 6E.

420
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:06,840
Yeah.

421
00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,920
It'll give you some good future proofing.

422
00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:18,360
Again, a potential maximum of 9,608 megabits per second using 2.4 and 5 gigahertz.

423
00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:24,080
Now the difference in 6 and 6E is 6E introduced 6 gigahertz.

424
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,080
Yeah.

425
00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,800
And that's how they're actually achieving some of those higher ridiculous speeds.

426
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:35,240
I mean, I was going to say, I feel like it should be 2.45 and 7.5 gigahertz.

427
00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,640
I mean, why are we doing this weirdness?

428
00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,320
We wanted the 6 gigabits.

429
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,380
6 gigabits.

430
00:18:41,380 --> 00:18:47,440
So you may be kind of figuring out here as you go up in frequency, there's more bandwidth

431
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,920
to take advantage of.

432
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,440
More bandwidth, more channels.

433
00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,920
Yes, more power.

434
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:52,920
Everything.

435
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,920
More power.

436
00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:54,920
More power.

437
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,120
And then you've got Wi-Fi 7.

438
00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:59,480
There has been some gear out for a little while with this.

439
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,480
None of it is officially certified.

440
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,800
So well, it's faster than what we can.

441
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,080
Oh, it's faster than the 6 and the 6E.

442
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,640
Yeah, and it's faster than what the internet service providers are.

443
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:15,360
Well, yeah, I mean, with AC, technically, you're already faster than what most service

444
00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:16,600
providers would give you.

445
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:22,840
Although I guess there are a few fiber providers that I know that are pushing 5 gigabit.

446
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,840
Really?

447
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:24,840
Yes.

448
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,760
So none of them are around here.

449
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,120
I haven't met any of them.

450
00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:29,120
No, they're not around here.

451
00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:31,000
I know they're in Austin.

452
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000
We're in Tyler.

453
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,640
We don't have that.

454
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,640
That's not one of the options on the little...

455
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,880
Don't get me started on how backwards some of our stuff is for as big a city as we are.

456
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:42,880
I'm just saying.

457
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,880
Okay.

458
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,760
And then coming at some point in the future, Wi-Fi 8...

459
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,760
You heard it here first, folks.

460
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,760
Yeah, you heard it here first.

461
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,760
Breaking news.

462
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,760
802.11 BN.

463
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:52,760
BN.

464
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,760
N is in Nancy.

465
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,760
Nancy.

466
00:19:54,760 --> 00:20:01,920
A maximum of 100,000 megabits per second.

467
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,920
Bravo, November.

468
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,920
Yes, Bravo, November.

469
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:04,920
There you go.

470
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,920
100 gigs.

471
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,920
Yes, essentially gigabits.

472
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,920
Gigabits.

473
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:11,920
Not gigabytes.

474
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:12,920
Not gigabytes, gigabits.

475
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:13,920
That's different.

476
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,920
Yes, there's a big difference between bits and a byte.

477
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,920
Divide by eight.

478
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:18,920
Divide by eight, absolutely.

479
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,640
So again, 2.4, 5 gigahertz and 6 gigahertz.

480
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:29,200
So there's all the Wi-Fi versions and some of how they break down.

481
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,360
Are we going to put this on the show notes?

482
00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:32,360
Absolutely.

483
00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:36,080
I feel like we need to put this on the show notes because we just threw a lot of numbers.

484
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,080
We did.

485
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,080
Without...

486
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,080
We did.

487
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,080
Well, that's why I would say...

488
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,080
Breathing too much.

489
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,080
Depending on where we're at.

490
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,080
Dial in that NerdNob.

491
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,080
Yeah, check out the show notes if you want to know.

492
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,080
A positive four to six.

493
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,080
Yeah.

494
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,080
Because the NerdNob goes up to 11.

495
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,400
It goes up to 11 for sure, just like a sound box.

496
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,400
Yes.

497
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,400
What's up, Jason?

498
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,400
Yes.

499
00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,840
Okay, so from there, let's jump into channels.

500
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,920
Yeah, channels.

501
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,000
I was about to say, we got to go backwards for a second.

502
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000
Yeah, that's okay.

503
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,680
Did we jump anything else?

504
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,080
We did.

505
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,080
We did a little bit.

506
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,080
Well...

507
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,080
We didn't talk about...

508
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,640
Well, sorry, that's back on channels.

509
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,760
You've got two sections.

510
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,480
Channel width is what I was going back to.

511
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,480
Channels.

512
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,480
Let's go to channels.

513
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,480
Yeah, we'll go to channels.

514
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,480
So 2.4 gigahertz.

515
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,480
Yes.

516
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,600
11 usable channels in the US.

517
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,680
One through 11.

518
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:32,440
So in case you haven't realized this, there's this little...

519
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,600
Almost said company.

520
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:41,800
There's this little federal agency that likes to tell you where you can and can't be on

521
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,800
the spectrums of...

522
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:44,800
Yes.

523
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,960
Shout out to the FCC.

524
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,720
Yeah, the FCC is, they're awesome.

525
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,240
We are not trying to pick any fights...

526
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,920
No, no, no.

527
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,840
With anybody like that.

528
00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:03,560
Slight sidebar, talking about government agencies on the way to drop the kids off and my phone...

529
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,560
The actual kids.

530
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,720
Yeah, the actual kids and my phone stopped working.

531
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,320
Oh my gosh, that was terrifying.

532
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,320
But here's the deal.

533
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,320
I was...

534
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,040
If anybody that knows me, I'm not a big fan of the government.

535
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:22,000
I saw a video of the Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen.

536
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,840
I can't say anything good about her, so I just won't say.

537
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,360
Just keep your mouth shut.

538
00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:27,360
Yes.

539
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:32,160
She basically said, it is not our responsibility to bring prices down.

540
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,600
And although she's technically right that isn't what the government should do, when

541
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,800
you cause them to go up, you should be on the hook to bring them down.

542
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,200
So it sent me on a ramp with my kids and I could see my kids going, oh boy, here it goes.

543
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,800
The eyes are rolling back into the back of the head.

544
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,800
Exactly.

545
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,680
And about the time that my phone dropped, I said, if they don't keep it up, it may be

546
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,120
time for a revolution.

547
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:56,120
And then your phone dropped?

548
00:22:56,120 --> 00:23:02,160
Boom, my phone's single dropped and I'm like, oh, they're listening to me.

549
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,160
You're the reason.

550
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,160
They're going to come get me.

551
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,480
You're the reason AT&T just dropped everybody all at once in the state.

552
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,480
Yeah.

553
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,280
And they're still not talking about what happened.

554
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,680
No, they're not.

555
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,600
And I don't know that there's any hope of that.

556
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,800
Early story was a potential solar flare.

557
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,800
Sure.

558
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,800
So we'll see.

559
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,800
We'll see.

560
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,080
I feel like it was a solar flare we'd know faster than that unless they got shut up by

561
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,080
somebody else.

562
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,080
It started at 2 a.m.

563
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:34,160
AT&T would definitely blame it on something else if they could right now.

564
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,160
Absolutely.

565
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,160
Because right now they're just on the hook for being incompetent.

566
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,120
No, I'm not getting on that soapbox either.

567
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,440
All right, back to channels.

568
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,440
I got to get away from this.

569
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,440
I'm going to start preaching.

570
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,440
Okay.

571
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,440
Guys, it's not good.

572
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,440
It's not good.

573
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:53,920
As soon as we hang up with this call or call whatever, we're going to be talking about

574
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,920
this.

575
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:55,920
Oh, I'm sure.

576
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:56,920
I'm sure.

577
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,920
Okay, so let's hop back to channel.

578
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,400
So 2.4 gigahertz, 11 usable channels.

579
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:07,760
That doesn't mean that you should just use any old channel.

580
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,880
There is only three that are technically usable that don't interfere with other channels.

581
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,680
Channel one, channel six, channel 11.

582
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:22,320
So that joker not too far away who's using channel three, I'm not a fan of yours because

583
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,960
you're stepping on one and six.

584
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,280
You're stepping on both one and six.

585
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,280
Yes.

586
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,400
Okay, so how do we explain this in a way that makes sense to somebody who just heard you

587
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,920
say 11 usable channels and really there's only three?

588
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,920
There's only three.

589
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,880
So we'll have to put something in the show notes so you could see the visual.

590
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:47,080
So within the 2.4 gigahertz spectrum, they show you the channels and they show you the

591
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,840
frequency starts here, ends here.

592
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:56,840
Those channels technically, I mean, for all intents and purposes, they overlap.

593
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:57,840
Channels next to each other.

594
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,720
So channel one kind of overlaps with channel two, two with three and so on.

595
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:07,200
And because you have what are considered co-channels there, you get co-channel interference.

596
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:13,440
So if I have a radio on one and another nearby radio on two, they're not going to be happy.

597
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,840
My experience is not going to be great.

598
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:22,640
So if you do have a D-link or a link says that you can go in and change it, do turn

599
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:28,440
off the automatic channel because I've seen those choose those in between channels because

600
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,440
it looks clear.

601
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,120
Don't do that.

602
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:32,120
Be a good neighbor.

603
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:33,120
Don't do that.

604
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:39,560
I don't know, I'm trying to come up with like a way for people to understand this.

605
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:45,920
If you're driving down the highway and you're just imagine, remember if you can, when we

606
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:56,560
had the knobs that you would turn to find the channel on the FMAM knob to get the channel

607
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,080
on the radio.

608
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:06,760
If you turn it close to a channel, you can hear the next channel.

609
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,760
The next channel.

610
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,360
Like you can hear what like the, the through the static and everything, you can kind of

611
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:12,880
hear something faint.

612
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,280
You're not exactly on the channel, but you kind of hear it.

613
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:23,080
Now imagine if you've got two weak signals and this is important because on FMAM, like

614
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,800
the part of it is how weak the channel is on whether or not it'll actually do this.

615
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,480
Because you can have two channels right next to each other and you can hear both of them

616
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,720
as long as they are pumping that wattage at you.

617
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960
But most of the time that's not what's happening.

618
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:44,960
So if you imagine if you were in between two channels and you could hear both of them,

619
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,560
that's kind of what we're talking about here.

620
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,560
Yeah.

621
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,560
You kind of get that bleed over.

622
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:57,400
And that wifi has to have a very strong signal in order to pass without pass data without

623
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,720
dropping packets.

624
00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,720
Correct.

625
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,720
Okay.

626
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,720
Yeah.

627
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,440
More interference just basically means you're potentially going to have to keep retransmitting

628
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,240
to get what you need.

629
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,160
So stay on the right channels.

630
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:16,200
And so where that kind of plays in too, if you're designing a network, depending on the

631
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,360
size of your building, you need three, four, five.

632
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:24,840
So now as you're laying those out, now you've got to think, think, think that through.

633
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,760
If I'm putting this one on one, I'm putting this on six, I'm putting on this 11.

634
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,840
Now when I put that fourth radio, I need to put it to where it doesn't step on number

635
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:39,880
one, but it could, or yeah, it doesn't co-exist with number one, but it could overlap on the

636
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,640
two that are running six and 11 and I'm fine.

637
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,880
And then if I have more radios, then I keep doing this to try to space it out.

638
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,120
And you can see how like in your house, this is not a problem.

639
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:50,120
No.

640
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:51,440
Well, depending on how geeky you are.

641
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,440
Wow.

642
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,440
Let me tell you what.

643
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,440
No.

644
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,600
I'm not, not, not, not nearly that geeky.

645
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,600
Not in my house.

646
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,600
I'm a little geeky.

647
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,120
Well, I mean a little bit.

648
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,160
I do have three APs at my house.

649
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,600
I should say that.

650
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,120
I have two that are functional, one that needs to be replaced.

651
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:13,840
Yeah, there you go.

652
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,160
But who has the money for that?

653
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,160
Anyway.

654
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,160
Okay.

655
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,160
All right.

656
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:24,720
So with that, that's kind of where 2.4 exists.

657
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,720
We've already talked about the overlap.

658
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,720
Did you talk about microwaves?

659
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,040
No, but that's coming up again.

660
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,920
I want to reiterate use one, six and 11.

661
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:43,280
Please be kind to your neighbors because your frequencies, your, I go, I go to the blockbuster

662
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,960
analogy, be kind, rewind.

663
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,960
There you go.

664
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,440
So be kind, whether or not you believe it because you walked out of your house and lost

665
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,720
wifi signal, you are close enough to your neighbors to mess with their signal as well.

666
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,720
Oh yes.

667
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,680
And if you look for wifi, you'll see your other people.

668
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,680
Yeah.

669
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,620
So that takes me to one quick sidebar.

670
00:29:02,620 --> 00:29:04,160
Do have fun with your network names.

671
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,160
Oh yeah.

672
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,160
No, that's the best part.

673
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,320
Don't just leave it plain Jane.

674
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,320
No, you can't.

675
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520
You, I mean, it's a sudden, you know, suddenly whatever.

676
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:17,120
That's not, that's not a wifi name.

677
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,280
If you come by my house, you will see FBI surveillance van number 33.

678
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,280
That's me.

679
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,360
So have as much fun with it as you want.

680
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,000
And now my wife's going, that's where he got that.

681
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,000
Yeah.

682
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,400
So I guess, yeah, a couple other things here to keep in mind.

683
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,680
There are other things that do operate in that 2.4 gigahertz range that can cause interference.

684
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,680
Okay.

685
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,680
Namely microwave.

686
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,680
Yeah.

687
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:51,360
So if you have a radio or access point relatively close to your microwave and you start noticing

688
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,880
bizarre behaviors.

689
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,600
Why does my Netflix cut out every time I make popcorn?

690
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,600
Yeah.

691
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,600
It gets a little choppy.

692
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,600
What's going on?

693
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,240
You may need to consider relocating your radio.

694
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,240
Maybe.

695
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,240
Maybe.

696
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,040
So, all right, go ahead and do it.

697
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,760
Another thing that you, again, depending on how geeky you are, if you're in the home automation

698
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:20,120
and you use Zigbee for connecting lights, whatever, Zigbee operates in 2.4 gigahertz

699
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,520
as well.

700
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,640
So be careful.

701
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,880
It is a very popular side.

702
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,880
Okay.

703
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,520
We're going to go on a side quest here.

704
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,500
Go ahead.

705
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:36,740
This became a big deal with all of us musicians out there.

706
00:30:36,740 --> 00:30:43,480
When they first came out with wireless, not first came out with wireless, that's ridiculous.

707
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:54,440
When they started making, I'm going to go ahead and say lower budget, wireless, especially

708
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,880
like instrument stuff.

709
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,400
Okay.

710
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,600
Most of it was focused in the 2.4 gigahertz.

711
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,960
And I had a whole bunch of people that were like wireless guitars, like trying to go wireless

712
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,520
with your guitar or trying to go wireless is trash.

713
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,360
You don't need to do it at all.

714
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,520
This was the problem.

715
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,080
Everything was on 2.4.

716
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,040
Everything like the wifi router, if the wifi router was anywhere near your gear, which

717
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,720
it's always near your gear because you're trying to do stuff on wifi the entire time

718
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:32,720
that you're playing music, it was always interfering.

719
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,840
And you remember 2.4, three usable channels.

720
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,960
So I would assume they use 2.4 to get higher than 900 megahertz.

721
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,360
So again, more potential bandwidth, so better quality sound in theory.

722
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,060
Better quality sound.

723
00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:52,440
Everybody was going for fidelity.

724
00:31:52,440 --> 00:32:00,420
But what they got was all this like, you know, technology that's being put into cell phones

725
00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:06,240
at the time was then becoming, oh, well, this could work with music.

726
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,840
Yes.

727
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,040
And it all just went downhill.

728
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,040
Yes.

729
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,080
So that's the story of 2.4.

730
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,080
Anyway.

731
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,080
All right.

732
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,080
So moving on 5 gigahertz.

733
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,840
5 gigahertz comes as the savior to all.

734
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,840
That was the intent.

735
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,840
Definitely.

736
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,400
So in the US, 22 usable channels.

737
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,160
I guess one other thing we skipped.

738
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,160
2.4 gigahertz.

739
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,600
Best case scenario, 300 feet of coverage.

740
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,600
Best case.

741
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,520
5 gigahertz, you're talking about 100 feet of coverage.

742
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:44,760
So if anybody has played with this at home, you'll notice that you have those great speeds

743
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,220
when you're on 5.

744
00:32:46,220 --> 00:32:53,680
You get too far away, it slows down because you fall back to 2.4.

745
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,440
Not seeing a whole lot of just 5.

746
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,640
Got to have 5 and 2.4.

747
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,440
5 and 2.4.

748
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,200
So what gets interesting in here is radar.

749
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:13,060
12 of the 22 channels exist in the spectrum for some of the radar systems.

750
00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:15,760
So those are referred to as DFS channels.

751
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,480
The way those work is your radio.

752
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,480
DFS, never mind.

753
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,840
We're not going to go there.

754
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,360
So your radio can exist on one of those channels.

755
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:31,120
But if it detects radar, it has to drop with no longer than 10 seconds and get out of the

756
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,120
way.

757
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,640
So it does not interfere with that radar.

758
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:41,040
So if anybody's ever been poking in their system logs and they see radar detected, that's

759
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,400
what they're talking about.

760
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,000
That's what they're talking about.

761
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Not the MASH character.

762
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,160
No, not MASH.

763
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,600
So the other thing that's nice in 5 gigahertz is none of the channels technically overlap.

764
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,520
Yeah, so there's 12 or there's 22.

765
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,200
12 of them are radar.

766
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,400
10 usable channels.

767
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,640
And so as you can see, more channels, especially if you live in an apartment complex, more

768
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,280
channels is more better.

769
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,920
Thank you.

770
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:14,920
Yes.

771
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,840
So you can get away from what your neighbors are using and try to improve your experience.

772
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,840
Yeah.

773
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,840
Yeah.

774
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,840
Okay.

775
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:29,120
So from there, we jumped to 6 gigahertz, which again came out with 6E.

776
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,240
Still reasonably new in the Wi-Fi piece.

777
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:39,120
Most I would say probably phones within the last two to three years for sure are probably

778
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,840
going to have 6E built in.

779
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,920
Right.

780
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,000
So this gets really crazy.

781
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,400
59 usable channels in the US.

782
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,400
Pretty good.

783
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,960
That's game changing if you live in an apartment.

784
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Right.

785
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,120
Absolutely amazing.

786
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,960
No channel overlap, just like with 5 gigahertz.

787
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,260
So depending on how many neighbors you have, there should be no reason that y'all would

788
00:35:03,260 --> 00:35:05,760
be on the same channel.

789
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,760
Yeah.

790
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,760
There's no reason.

791
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,760
Unless they're just being a jerk.

792
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,840
Yeah, well.

793
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,840
Some of those neighbors do exist, I'm afraid.

794
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,520
We're not going to talk about being a good neighbor on this yet.

795
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,520
All right.

796
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,680
Let's talk about channel width.

797
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,680
Channel width.

798
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,680
Here we go.

799
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,000
So this is where things get a little interesting.

800
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,480
We'd already kind of alluded to, you've got to plan your channels carefully.

801
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,480
Yes.

802
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:35,920
Because again, you want to avoid multiple radios utilizing the same channel next to

803
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,320
each other so you don't have that interference.

804
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,320
Right.

805
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,280
So this width is like what?

806
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,280
An inch?

807
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,000
I'm not even going to go with that.

808
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,240
Moving on.

809
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:54,760
So channels and channel width is ultimately used to get you more speed, more power.

810
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,760
Okay.

811
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,080
I hear Tim Allen in my head.

812
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,160
So you get into what's called spatial streams.

813
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,560
I don't think so, Tim.

814
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,560
Yeah.

815
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,160
So this has to do with active connections to a given radio.

816
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:16,600
And if I remember correctly, Wi-Fi 7, I don't remember if it was 7 or 8.

817
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,120
So please don't hold me to this.

818
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:25,480
One of them, you could actually be connected to multiple radios, which gets a little interesting

819
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,560
because now you can pull data from two different radios.

820
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,560
It gets intriguing what you can achieve.

821
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,720
This isn't okay.

822
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:35,160
So we're going to talk in a little bit about like MIMO.

823
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,160
Yes.

824
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:43,920
Multi-user MIMO or Moo MIMO, whatever you want to call it.

825
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,920
This is not...

826
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,920
Okay.

827
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,440
Moo MIMO is going to be coming from the other direction, talking about radio, talking to

828
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,160
multiple end users.

829
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,880
You're talking about an end user using multiple radios.

830
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,880
Multiple radios.

831
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,880
Yeah.

832
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,880
So don't hold me to it.

833
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,000
It's either Wi-Fi 7.

834
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,760
I'm leaning towards 7, but it could have been something I was reading on 8.

835
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,960
So forgive me if I'm calling it wrong.

836
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,160
But it's an intriguing technology.

837
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,800
That sounds very interesting.

838
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,920
Especially in a business where you're more likely to have multiple radios.

839
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,840
And depending on where you're office, you might be right in between two and can take

840
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,120
advantage of it.

841
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,720
Which I mean, honestly, your network guy is trying to minimize that right now.

842
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:27,720
Correct.

843
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:31,080
But you're saying he may not be trying to minimize that in the future.

844
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,000
Depending on what he's trying to achieve in terms of your connection speed.

845
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,000
Wow.

846
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,040
That could start to change the way we do some of our design.

847
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:44,920
Now I'm just, because what you don't want right now are like really big hotspots in

848
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,920
your network mapping.

849
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,000
You do want to keep them a reasonable amount apart so they're not stepping on each other.

850
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,240
But you do need some overlap to help with roaming.

851
00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:01,800
So that it's a clear, you're not falling off and then picking up again.

852
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,880
Correct.

853
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,480
So roaming is a whole other animal.

854
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480
I didn't include that in here.

855
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,240
But just real quick to know there are different standards for roaming.

856
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:13,400
If you're going to turn it on, make sure all your devices support the version that you're

857
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,760
turning on.

858
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,120
Or you could potentially have devices that just can't connect because they don't, they

859
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,920
don't talk that language.

860
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Yeah, I'm not sorry.

861
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,320
I'm still back on the multiple radios, multiple radios.

862
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,560
Your mind is blown.

863
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,200
I just didn't know that that was coming.

864
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,200
That's great.

865
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,200
Yes.

866
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,000
I think it's great.

867
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,000
I'm still trying to figure it out.

868
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,000
Okay, go ahead.

869
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,560
I would say if it's implemented right, it probably is going to be great.

870
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:46,280
So and then when we get into the wider the channel, the more bandwidth.

871
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:52,620
So 2.4 gigahertz uses 20 megahertz channels.

872
00:38:52,620 --> 00:38:57,760
So you've got a finite amount of data that you can push down that.

873
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,680
And so you can't bond multiple channels together.

874
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,920
No, they're interfering with each other.

875
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,920
Yes.

876
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:12,240
Well, I probably shouldn't say that there is some I think there is technically some

877
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:19,280
older in that could do MIMO.

878
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,480
I'll confirm that and add that in.

879
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,480
Yeah, we need that.

880
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,480
Yeah.

881
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,280
So don't don't jump on that bandwagon.

882
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,280
Yes.

883
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,280
Yeah, don't don't beat me up.

884
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,240
Okay, so you jumped to five gigahertz.

885
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:29,760
This is where it starts to get intriguing.

886
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,760
Yeah.

887
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,440
So you could do 20 megahertz just like 2.4.

888
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:40,160
Or you could bond two of those together basically and achieve a 40 megahertz channel.

889
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,440
That's some slick math right there.

890
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,040
Yes, it is more, more bandwidth.

891
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,040
It's amazing.

892
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,040
More better, more better.

893
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:53,240
Then you could bond 240s or 420s or 420s.

894
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:55,840
However you want to take that for 80 megahertz.

895
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:02,400
Again, you're achieving more potential bandwidth and then ending with 160 megahertz channels.

896
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,400
Yeah.

897
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:08,440
So you have the potential to really grow this out in terms of the potential bandwidth that

898
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,680
you can achieve when you're connected to the radio.

899
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,560
Again with this, you've got to be the most newer devices, you don't have to worry about

900
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,560
this.

901
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,680
But there was a time you had to be careful on how wide you made your channels.

902
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Right.

903
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,320
Because some older equipment may not have gone beyond 40 megahertz.

904
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,320
Yeah.

905
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,240
And as soon as you turn on 80, they're like, I don't have anything.

906
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:32,960
What do you want me to do?

907
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:40,400
Let's make sure and understand that bonding that is great for your speed and how much

908
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,720
you can handle and everything.

909
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:43,960
That's awesome.

910
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:49,300
But it's not like the number of channels actually increased because if you bond them, then you

911
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:53,320
are actually decreasing the number of channels that are available.

912
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,320
Yes.

913
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,520
And that leads me into the next section.

914
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,600
So we said with 5 gigahertz, there were 22 usable channels.

915
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:07,320
When you go to 14 gigahertz, that actually only shrinks to 14, which doesn't seem like

916
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,200
the math works, but it does.

917
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,520
And then when you go to 80 gigahertz, now you do truly cut in half.

918
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,520
Sorry, 40.

919
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,520
40 gigahertz.

920
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,520
Sorry.

921
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,640
Yeah, 40 gives you 14.

922
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:29,880
From 5 gigahertz, if you bond 20s all the way across, to have 40 megahertz channels,

923
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,880
then you only have 29.

924
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,880
Oh, sorry, 14.

925
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,880
29 is on the-

926
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,520
You only have 14 usable channels.

927
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,520
14.

928
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,240
And then if you bump it again to 80 megahertz, you have 7 usable channels.

929
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,240
Yeah, which is like a third.

930
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:44,240
Yes.

931
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,760
But again, as you bond these and you get more megahertz, you get more bandwidth.

932
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,400
And then ending with the 60 megahertz, and there you've only got-

933
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,400
160.

934
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,400
160.

935
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,400
Three usable channels.

936
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,400
Yeah.

937
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,120
So more bandwidth is amazing, but it means fewer channels.

938
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:04,920
So as you grow those channels, that can complicate your design, depending on how many radios you

939
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,920
have to work with.

940
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:12,280
So now we jump to the newer 6 gigahertz.

941
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:17,360
Again, it can use 20, it can use 40, it could use 80, it could use 160.

942
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,440
And it now introduces 320 megahertz.

943
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,960
For the ridiculous people out there.

944
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,960
Yes.

945
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,400
Three channels of 320 megahertz.

946
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,440
Three channels of 320, yeah.

947
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,400
So with this, if you do the 40 megahertz-

948
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,400
29.

949
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,400
You've got 29.

950
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,400
That's where the 29 was.

951
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,400
Correct.

952
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,280
If you do 80, you've got 14 usable.

953
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,040
160, you've got 7.

954
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,720
And as we just said, 320, you've got 3 available.

955
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:47,720
Yep.

956
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:52,160
So again, as you increase these channels, be mindful of how many radios you have and

957
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,520
how you're designing this out.

958
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,520
Yeah.

959
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,920
So if you only got three radios, go to town.

960
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,960
If your devices can handle it, knock yourself out.

961
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,400
If your devices can handle it.

962
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:09,560
The other thing to keep in mind though, as you're increasing your channels and your number

963
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,560
is shrinking, your neighbors may not be using those bigger channel bindings.

964
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,560
Oh, that's true.

965
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:21,800
They may be on the 20s, maybe the 40s, and they now could potentially step over whichever

966
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,800
channel you're using.

967
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:30,160
So again, a lot of this to keep in mind, depending on how geeky you are and how you design your

968
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,160
network.

969
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,160
Yeah.

970
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,160
It's important.

971
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,160
It is.

972
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,160
Absolutely is.

973
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,360
We're all just used to go by from Best Buy, plug it in, and boom, it just worked.

974
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,360
Yeah.

975
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,920
You got a guy who's listening to this and like, wait a minute.

976
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,480
I was just trying to not use my ISPs.

977
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,480
Correct.

978
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,280
We turned up that dial.

979
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,480
We did, a little bit.

980
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,480
A little bit.

981
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,480
Okay.

982
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:57,440
So now let's jump to spatial streams or another way to say that is how many consecutive connections

983
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,000
do you have to the radio?

984
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,280
So single radio, how many devices can connect?

985
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,840
Yes, at one time.

986
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,840
At one time.

987
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:13,480
So when you go way back before MIMO and multi-user MIMO, one device at a time.

988
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:20,920
Now super fast connections, like even at their slowest.

989
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,520
You say one device can connect at a time.

990
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,520
Correct.

991
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,760
That's not, hey, I've connected my device to this AP, so.

992
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,760
Well, there's caveats.

993
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,760
Okay.

994
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,760
There's caveats.

995
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:40,760
So if you think back to the beginning, 802.11b, that was kind of where it was what we call

996
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,300
round robin.

997
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:47,560
One device can transmit and receive to the radio at a time.

998
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,960
So your laptop would do its thing.

999
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,560
Then my laptop would do its thing.

1000
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,440
And then your phone and then my phone and then back to your laptop.

1001
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,400
And it had to basically go in a round robin circle, trying to give everybody fair air

1002
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,400
time.

1003
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,400
Yeah.

1004
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,400
So everybody could try to do something.

1005
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,000
But let's talk about how fast that was happening.

1006
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,860
Oh, it's happening crazy fast.

1007
00:45:05,860 --> 00:45:06,860
Crazy fast.

1008
00:45:06,860 --> 00:45:07,860
Crazy fast.

1009
00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:10,440
But it's not like I get it for an hour than you get it for an hour.

1010
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,440
Correct.

1011
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,640
But those of us that are old enough that we have some gray hair and remember the old times,

1012
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,640
it was slow.

1013
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,640
Yeah.

1014
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,040
It definitely had that like, my page is going to load in a second.

1015
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,040
Yes.

1016
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,120
That I am looking at.

1017
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,120
Not as bad as dial-up.

1018
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,600
Give it a minute.

1019
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,600
So.

1020
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,600
Oh my gosh.

1021
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,600
Dial-up.

1022
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:37,880
So obviously by today's standards, if it's only one device at a time, not that big a

1023
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,880
deal.

1024
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,160
You've probably got a really nice internet speed, especially if you're increasing your

1025
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,160
channels.

1026
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,560
So that's the other benefit to channels is more bandwidth.

1027
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,020
Your device talks faster, which means my device can get to it quicker and talk faster and

1028
00:45:54,020 --> 00:45:55,320
so on.

1029
00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:01,480
So from there, they introduced single user, multi in, multi out.

1030
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,480
MIMO.

1031
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,480
Yes.

1032
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,480
MIMO.

1033
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,480
Sue MIMO.

1034
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,080
Big, big deal.

1035
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,840
Still round robin.

1036
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,440
Still jumping from device to device.

1037
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,080
Device, device, device, device.

1038
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,080
Yes.

1039
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:20,000
But it allowed me to have, depending on how the radio was, I could have two connections

1040
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,000
to that radio.

1041
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:26,080
I could have three or possibly as many as four simultaneous connections.

1042
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,520
In and out.

1043
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,600
Yes.

1044
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,460
So again, I'm getting my bandwidth faster.

1045
00:46:32,460 --> 00:46:37,000
So my device can hand off for the radio to go to the next device.

1046
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,760
So again, we're speeding this thing up.

1047
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,720
And then where it gets really intriguing is when they introduce multi user MIMO.

1048
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:49,000
Now your laptop and my laptop can talk to that same radio at the same time.

1049
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,600
Now we may not be able to talk to all of the antennas at the same time.

1050
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,360
You may get to and I get to.

1051
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,360
Right.

1052
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:01,200
But now, again, we're making it faster, multiple devices talking at the same time.

1053
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,400
What do you mean antennas, Chris?

1054
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,400
My device, my AP looks like a discus.

1055
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,120
Yeah, mine looks like a spaceship too.

1056
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,120
So if you take it apart, they're in there.

1057
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,120
What?

1058
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,120
Yes.

1059
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,120
They look like little pieces of foil.

1060
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,120
I don't believe you.

1061
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,400
I'm going to have to break that plastic apart.

1062
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,960
Well, I'll have to find the one that we broke apart at work today and show you because it

1063
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,960
was a dead radio.

1064
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,680
Oh my gosh.

1065
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:29,520
It's actually intriguing how small the antennas truly are and what they're not the big fins.

1066
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,000
No, no, no, no, no.

1067
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,320
Because we've all seen the octopus hanging from the ceiling.

1068
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,400
Yeah, when you've got those external antennas, that is not a pleasant sight.

1069
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:45,160
That's what the people jump up and high five them when they're walking by.

1070
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,160
And break them off.

1071
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,720
Like, why are we doing this?

1072
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:48,720
You don't have to touch everything.

1073
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:49,720
No, no, no, no.

1074
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:50,720
It's not yours.

1075
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:51,720
No.

1076
00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:55,520
Now, external antenna could technically get you better coverage.

1077
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,080
Technically, but you also have people hitting it.

1078
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,080
Yeah, you do.

1079
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,120
If they damage it, it's no good.

1080
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,520
So that is the benefit of multi-user MIMO.

1081
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,720
And again, still round robin, trying to get everybody fair airtime.

1082
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:11,080
But now more than one device can connect to that radio.

1083
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,080
Nice.

1084
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,280
So that was a really nice upgrade.

1085
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,360
It was.

1086
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,060
It was.

1087
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:20,000
So getting into some of the last bit here.

1088
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,960
Now we get into placement.

1089
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,300
Placement of the radio for the access point.

1090
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:32,620
Did we ever say access point or did we just say AP the entire time?

1091
00:48:32,620 --> 00:48:33,880
We probably said AP.

1092
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:34,880
Sorry.

1093
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,360
Or I was saying radio.

1094
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,200
Radio, access point, AP, all the same thing.

1095
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,200
Yes, all the jargon.

1096
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,200
Go ahead.

1097
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,200
OK.

1098
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:48,280
So your access point, whether it's baked in the all-in-one router or it's an independent

1099
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:54,520
access point or radio, it has what's referred to as a radiation pattern.

1100
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,200
Not necessarily the bad kind.

1101
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,200
What just happened?

1102
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,200
Yes.

1103
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,480
Why is my skin getting warm?

1104
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,560
Oh, no.

1105
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:06,160
So basically what that means, it travels in a horizontal plane and a vertical plane.

1106
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:12,600
So most radios are going to produce that basically in the shape of a glazed donut.

1107
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,760
You can imagine it just expanding until it basically.

1108
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:16,760
I just got hungry.

1109
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:17,760
Yeah, me too.

1110
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,760
Is Dunkin' Donuts out there?

1111
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,760
You're right.

1112
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,760
Beer and donuts.

1113
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,820
What am I, Homer?

1114
00:49:24,820 --> 00:49:30,520
So that kind of expands out again until that signal degrades enough that it's not usable.

1115
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:35,560
There are different antennas that can do different coverage patterns.

1116
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,420
We'll get into those in a little bit.

1117
00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:47,040
So most access points are meant, in my opinion, or designed to mount flush on your ceiling

1118
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,680
so that the antennas are parallel with your ceiling and your floor.

1119
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,400
That is how you get the best coverage out of that device unless it has some special

1120
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,740
antennas that we'll talk about in a little bit.

1121
00:49:58,740 --> 00:50:01,240
But I doubt that would most likely be.

1122
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:02,400
You say best coverage.

1123
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,300
I say widest coverage.

1124
00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:06,640
Best coverage, widest coverage, yes.

1125
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:16,920
If you have a two-floor home, you got to be careful with the disks, right?

1126
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,020
You do.

1127
00:50:18,020 --> 00:50:22,760
Because they're not as up and down as the old ones used to be.

1128
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,120
No, and just because you put it up on the highest level doesn't mean you're going to

1129
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,280
get a great experience down on the bottom.

1130
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,560
No, it's a very different...

1131
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,000
Your floors are very different than your walls.

1132
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Oh, yes.

1133
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,000
Oh, yes.

1134
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,000
Okay.

1135
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,520
So if you have two floors at a minimum, you probably need two radios.

1136
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,120
Yeah, no, absolutely.

1137
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,120
Minimum.

1138
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,460
So that radiation pattern matters.

1139
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:48,760
If you want to know what it is, typically the manufacturer site will show you that.

1140
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,120
Tell me how you really feel.

1141
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,440
We got any Europeans listening out there?

1142
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,440
Yeah.

1143
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:02,920
So the pattern matters, again, we talked about it would be like a glazed donut for an omnidirectional,

1144
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,120
which is what most access points tend to be.

1145
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:12,720
So you do have certain antennas though that can change that, that can give you...

1146
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,720
Generally, it will give you more punch.

1147
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:18,720
So typically you would see this, especially outside.

1148
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:19,720
Yeah.

1149
00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:20,720
You say...

1150
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:27,000
Again, just using your words, you're saying punch, I would probably phrase it more like

1151
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,520
directional.

1152
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:34,040
More direction and more distance than a omnidirectional that's doing the full 360 degrees.

1153
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,440
You've got like a, you know, almost picture like a sphere, like you said, the donut.

1154
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,440
This is more like a spear.

1155
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:46,480
Yes, depending on what the degree pattern is.

1156
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,920
So when you get into that, you're going to be talking about...

1157
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:58,320
I've seen them referred to as directional, I've seen them referred to as sector and yaggy.

1158
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,960
Most of the time, those are going to be outdoor.

1159
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,720
Directional is just that it's going to point in a given direction.

1160
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:09,920
Like fins or cylinders or...

1161
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,320
Yeah, they can, especially when you get into the sector.

1162
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,960
Rectangles I've normally seen those as a square or a rectangle.

1163
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,560
Yeah, it's pointed though.

1164
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:20,560
Yes.

1165
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:28,600
So 90 degree, 45 degree, depending on what your coverage that you're trying to get, the

1166
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:33,720
tighter that the smaller that degree, the tighter that beam, the more potential you have for

1167
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:35,560
distance.

1168
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:41,120
When you get into a sector, typically those are going to go wider than 90.

1169
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:46,200
A lot of times you'll see those 130, 180.

1170
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:52,840
So I'm trying to cover everything in front of that antenna and out to the sides.

1171
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:53,840
It's like a backyard.

1172
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:54,840
Nothing behind.

1173
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,840
Yeah.

1174
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,040
Think of it as a way that some microphones will actually pick up.

1175
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,040
I was about to say microphone.

1176
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,360
You're going to get rejection from the rear.

1177
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,360
Rejection from the rear.

1178
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,360
It's looking at the front.

1179
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,360
All at the front.

1180
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,360
Forward facing.

1181
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:07,360
Yeah.

1182
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,360
So that's how a sector would work.

1183
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:14,600
Yaggy, if you've ever seen them, they look like somebody pulled the guts out of a radio.

1184
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,600
I'm sorry?

1185
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,600
It's what it looks like.

1186
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,440
Basically, it looks like somebody took a piece of metal.

1187
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,000
Sorry, I got to Google this real quick.

1188
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,000
Keep talking.

1189
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,000
Go ahead.

1190
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,800
And they will have basically like they've cut out little fingers or fins and it would

1191
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,800
mount.

1192
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,880
It looks like something that you could actually put inside of a Pringles can almost.

1193
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,240
Oh my gosh.

1194
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:34,240
Yes.

1195
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:42,680
These things have incredible punch or distance because of how tight they're making that beam.

1196
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:43,920
That's crazy looking.

1197
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,920
Yes.

1198
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,000
You'll see a lot of these two with hams if they've got any ham radio guys out there.

1199
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,000
There you go.

1200
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,800
Ham radio is exactly what I was thinking.

1201
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:58,000
This one looks like a, what's the, like the weed or not the weed.

1202
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,000
A hedge trimmer.

1203
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,000
The hedge trimmer.

1204
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Yeah.

1205
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,000
Hedge trimmer.

1206
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,000
Yeah.

1207
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,000
That's exactly what that looked like.

1208
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,160
And you can get ridiculous punch and distance with those.

1209
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,160
Oh wow.

1210
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,840
Especially if you're trying to do like a site to site bridge, you're going to want something

1211
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:21,520
like that because you want that tighter beam, maximum distance so you can get that reach.

1212
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:26,440
Pasternak put a cylinder over it because it's so ugly.

1213
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,480
Oh man.

1214
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,720
Sorry, go ahead.

1215
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:31,960
You're fine.

1216
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:37,760
So keeping in the world of placement, you don't want to put your radios too close together.

1217
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,760
No.

1218
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,640
Again, you're not going to hurt the equipment, but they are going to overlap far too much

1219
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:44,640
in coverage.

1220
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,080
Perform the way that they're supposed to.

1221
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,080
Correct.

1222
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,080
And your device is not going to be happy.

1223
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,360
It's going, do I want to, do I need to talk to you?

1224
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,760
Do I want to talk to you?

1225
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:58,040
And it's generally going to try to take what is the best signal or quality.

1226
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,760
And if that is fluctuating in any way, it's going to bounce from radio to radio.

1227
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,680
And you're not going to be happy.

1228
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:13,680
So you want to keep 30 to 50 feet, depending on, again, this also comes down to how many

1229
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:21,720
walls you have, how many walls you have, how many, like what, again, what kind of directional,

1230
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:24,000
you know, correct.

1231
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,040
Now one thing you can do if you don't have a lot of luxury and where you can place your

1232
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:33,640
radios, again, this depends on how geeky your system is, you can turn down the transmission

1233
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,440
power to pull back how far they go.

1234
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:43,320
So you get the overlap that you need for roaming, but not so much overlap that it's causing

1235
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,760
issues with your device.

1236
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,920
And the other thing that we didn't talk about with distance is like, again, remembering

1237
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,560
the difference between like 2.4 and 5 and 6 and how far they reach.

1238
00:55:54,560 --> 00:56:01,120
Yes, 2.4, you're going to get your best option, again, for distance.

1239
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:06,000
You're going to lose bandwidth, but you're going to get that distance.

1240
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,920
So placement is important.

1241
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,040
And again, you've got to take into consideration your walls.

1242
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:18,840
You know, most interior walls in homes in Texas typically are not insulated.

1243
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,840
So you've got gaps with drywall.

1244
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,640
You can get, I feel like that became a code at some point.

1245
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,360
I can tell you at least in 2007 it wasn't.

1246
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,360
Really?

1247
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,360
My house was built.

1248
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,840
You don't have insulation in between?

1249
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,840
Not in the interior walls.

1250
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,840
Oh my gosh.

1251
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:35,840
Yeah.

1252
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,760
Well, there you go.

1253
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:43,120
So I feel like for the longest time they didn't do it just because it wasn't necessary.

1254
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,440
Outside is way more important.

1255
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,840
Outside is far more important.

1256
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,520
Attic way more important.

1257
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,520
Absolutely.

1258
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,760
Inside walls, not so much.

1259
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,200
Know your walls, know your materials.

1260
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,200
Know your materials.

1261
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,200
Makes a big deal.

1262
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,240
Well, and I guess even if you don't know your walls or materials and whatever, just understand

1263
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:03,160
that that may be something that's playing into why your radio doesn't reach as far as

1264
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,760
you think that it should.

1265
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,760
Correct.

1266
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,560
Like we're saying 1500 square feet is pretty typical for a single radio.

1267
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,600
But that is kind of a best case scenario.

1268
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:19,080
In a best case scenario, if you're like, I've got an 1800 square foot house and I've only

1269
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,040
got two rooms covered by this.

1270
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,040
Wow.

1271
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,040
Yeah.

1272
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,320
There's some other stuff going on probably there.

1273
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,960
There's a ton of factors.

1274
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:32,800
So a good rule of thumb is no more than three, four inch thick walls.

1275
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:38,720
If you've got insulation, you may start to see more degrading, especially depending on

1276
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:39,720
the type of material.

1277
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:44,640
If you've got rock wool, great for you for what that's capable of, especially killing

1278
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,240
sound, your wifi is not going to be happy.

1279
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,240
Sorry about you.

1280
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,240
That's just way too dense.

1281
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,960
Oh, and the other thing that I was going to say is again, making sure that you understand

1282
00:57:53,960 --> 00:58:00,120
the math of this, like in what we're saying, we're saying like, if you put your, if you

1283
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:09,560
put your antenna, just say antenna instead of the modem or whatever, if you put your

1284
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,640
antenna in the center of a 1500 square foot house.

1285
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:14,640
Yep.

1286
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:21,640
I had an 1800 square foot house for my first house and my, where the cable came into my

1287
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,160
house for our network was on one side of the house.

1288
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,640
And I was like, well, I've got a, you know, 1800 square foot house.

1289
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,480
This should cover most of my house.

1290
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,720
No, it was like half of my house.

1291
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:34,720
Yeah.

1292
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,680
Why was it half of my house?

1293
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,840
Placement is important because it was covering my neighbor's yard too.

1294
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:40,840
Yes, it was.

1295
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,640
Yes, it was.

1296
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,740
So again, general rule is three.

1297
00:58:45,740 --> 00:58:50,440
You can go four to five again, depending upon installation, depending on how thick your walls

1298
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,160
are, materials.

1299
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:57,000
So that's just a good, a good general rule to work with.

1300
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:02,760
If you have concrete walls, sorry, I highly recommend you put a radio on both side of

1301
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:03,760
the walls.

1302
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:04,760
Yep.

1303
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,880
It is not pleasant and what it does to wifi.

1304
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,760
And even though some may get through, it is going to be degraded and it is not going to

1305
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,760
be a good product.

1306
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:19,760
It's not quite as bad as rock wall, but pretty bad depending on how much steel is in it.

1307
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,760
Yeah.

1308
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,600
So like if you're doing, Oh, what is it?

1309
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:26,600
Concrete, polymer.

1310
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,160
Oh, Cody did it on his house.

1311
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,160
Yeah.

1312
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,160
I don't remember.

1313
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,400
It's a concrete wall with little chunks of metal instead of full rebar.

1314
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,400
Yeah.

1315
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:37,400
I should know this.

1316
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,400
My dad's in construction.

1317
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:39,400
That stuff is terrible.

1318
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,560
He's going to smack me upside the head if he hears this.

1319
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:49,000
So that can increase density, which can cause a bad experience.

1320
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,880
So placement is critical, especially when you know the materials of your house.

1321
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:58,100
If I'm looking for gear, Chris, what are some names that you trust?

1322
00:59:58,100 --> 01:00:05,160
If you're going to do the stuff from Best Buy, I tend to like D-Link for one reason.

1323
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,720
And it's been a while since I've used their product.

1324
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:12,760
So if it's changed, I'm sorry, they used to have a parental piece built in that would

1325
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:18,880
work with open DNS that you could set content filtering.

1326
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:24,240
You could pick your level and you could even say from this time to this time, I want it

1327
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,560
to be ridiculously strict.

1328
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,560
What gear was this?

1329
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:28,560
D-Link.

1330
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:29,560
D-Link.

1331
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,560
Okay.

1332
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:31,560
You said that.

1333
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:32,560
I was like, huh?

1334
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:33,560
Yeah.

1335
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:34,560
This was something that they D-Linked.

1336
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:39,480
I mean, other manufacturers may have it now, but they're the only one that I had ever run

1337
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,480
into it.

1338
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:47,920
So I could say when my kids are home, and I know they're potentially, I'm not home yet,

1339
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:53,800
my wife's not home yet, give me absolute maximum strict filtering.

1340
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,680
No shenanigans in my house, please.

1341
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:57,680
D-Link.

1342
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,200
We get home, there's a little more accountability.

1343
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,280
You could back off to medium.

1344
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:09,240
Because my wife doesn't like getting stopped from some of her shopping.

1345
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,240
Correct.

1346
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,240
Correct.

1347
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:16,900
And then some of it, you could even do some custom levels of allow this, but actually

1348
01:01:16,900 --> 01:01:18,080
block this.

1349
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:23,460
So I, again, assuming they still have that feature, I really love them for that.

1350
01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:27,920
Another good dependable product is going to be Linksys.

1351
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,720
That used to be, it seemed like that used to be the go-to for everybody.

1352
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:31,780
All over the place.

1353
01:01:31,780 --> 01:01:36,280
Back in the days of 802.11B and A, and even G and N.

1354
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,480
Yeah, I would say G and N for sure.

1355
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,360
Everybody had the Linksys of some kind.

1356
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,680
Now you may need to get the second level of Linksys, but...

1357
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:46,680
Correct.

1358
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:47,680
Correct.

1359
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:52,840
So the other thing that you can do with those types of systems, and some service providers

1360
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:58,960
are doing this now, is the newer generation, you could actually buy a repeater that is

1361
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,000
specific to your device.

1362
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:07,760
So in your scenario, you had your router, modem, all the Wi-Fi combo, all the way on

1363
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,920
one side of the house.

1364
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,140
You're hurting on the other side.

1365
01:02:11,140 --> 01:02:13,160
You could plug one of these into the wall.

1366
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,720
It would pair up and repeat the signal and give you improved coverage.

1367
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,640
Yeah, that was actually what I was looking at before we moved.

1368
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,200
So that's not a bad way.

1369
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,640
Linksys has a lot of these, by the way.

1370
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,560
There's a lot of options for repeaters.

1371
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,280
I would highly recommend not trying to do repeaters off of repeaters.

1372
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,680
You can do that.

1373
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:32,680
Just don't.

1374
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:33,680
You can do...

1375
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,560
I mean, it's like anything else.

1376
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,040
You're just going to get a degraded signal.

1377
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,040
You are.

1378
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,320
You can do a repeater on either side.

1379
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,320
Correct.

1380
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,000
Or all four sides, however you want to.

1381
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,240
Correct, depending on how it's laid up.

1382
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:50,880
So now if you don't care, yeah, you can absolutely take the product from the service provider.

1383
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:56,320
I don't recommend that, but for some people, if it works for them, great.

1384
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:57,800
It works for you.

1385
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,920
But instead of doing what I did, best thing to do is just roll up your sleeves, get in

1386
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:09,400
the attic, run a cable into the center of your house and run everything from the middle.

1387
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,400
Yes.

1388
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:16,880
So the next level up is, again, it's still going to be Linksys, D-Link, TP-Link, some

1389
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,160
of the other vendors that are out there.

1390
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:25,480
I've seen them sold in sets of three, sets of four, sets of five.

1391
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,240
And it creates a mesh, which is sort of like having...

1392
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,280
This is how Eero made its name, right?

1393
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,280
Yes.

1394
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,280
Yes, absolutely.

1395
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,760
I think they're an Amazon product now, too.

1396
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:35,760
Really?

1397
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:36,920
I think so.

1398
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:46,480
I think it's what's being sold with a local internet service provider right now that shall

1399
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,560
remain nameless.

1400
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,640
I think that's what they're putting in.

1401
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:50,640
Yeah.

1402
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,880
Eero is now an Amazon product.

1403
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:53,880
Wow.

1404
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:54,880
There you go.

1405
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:55,880
So in this...

1406
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:56,880
Careful.

1407
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,880
We saw what they did with Alexa.

1408
01:03:58,880 --> 01:03:59,880
And what they've done with Ring.

1409
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:00,880
I'm just saying.

1410
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:01,880
Watch out.

1411
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:08,400
So you would have one of them that would basically be the router access point combo that could

1412
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,720
sit ideally in the center of your house, or it could be shifted.

1413
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:17,920
But then you have mesh points that you can put in other places around the house to extend

1414
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:18,920
your coverage.

1415
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:25,200
So it's a much better experience with doing mesh versus a traditional repeater.

1416
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,200
Right.

1417
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,200
Because it's not the same thing.

1418
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,200
It is not.

1419
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,200
No.

1420
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,200
It's not.

1421
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:35,560
Mesh is used especially outdoors on a lot of college campuses to extend Wi-Fi to the

1422
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,840
outdoors and cover large spaces.

1423
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,680
So that's kind of that next level up.

1424
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:47,240
That can get a little more expensive depending on what you're looking at, but still a good

1425
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,800
solution for a lot of people.

1426
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,480
Then from there, then you really start cranking the geek knob up.

1427
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,520
And you're like, this is my system.

1428
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:57,520
Yes.

1429
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:02,800
You may be giving me a connection to the internet, but I'm making this happen.

1430
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:03,800
Yes.

1431
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,040
I have sovereignty and total control.

1432
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,360
So this is where you would buy your own modem.

1433
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:10,360
Right.

1434
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:14,320
Then you're going to buy your own network gear and build out your own network.

1435
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,760
So this is where like a UniFi comes in.

1436
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:22,080
This is where TP links, Omana, which is a competitive piece that's out there and even

1437
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,440
Meraki Go that is out there.

1438
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:30,480
And so in this scenario, you would buy essentially a router.

1439
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,600
Some people call it a gateway.

1440
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,880
That is the first device that connects to your modem.

1441
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:35,880
Right.

1442
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,880
That handles all of that routing internal to your network and external going to the

1443
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:40,880
internet.

1444
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,880
Then from there, it may have a switch built in.

1445
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:48,320
If not, you're going to buy your own switch that's going to come off of that router or

1446
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:49,320
gateway.

1447
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,800
And then from there, you're going to have fun in your attic and you're going to pull

1448
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:53,800
network cable.

1449
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:54,800
Got to.

1450
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:55,800
Yes.

1451
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:56,800
It's important.

1452
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,220
And I would highly recommend do it when you first buy your house.

1453
01:06:00,220 --> 01:06:03,480
If you wait, odds are you probably won't go back and do it.

1454
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,680
Or you'll put stuff up there and it'll make it a lot harder.

1455
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,400
That's true too.

1456
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,840
So in this scenario, you'll run network drops from that switch out to where you're going

1457
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,440
to place your radios to give yourself the best coverage.

1458
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,600
And when you're going into that level, now you tend to have a whole ton of control.

1459
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,160
You can get as geeky as you want, or you can keep it as simple as you want.

1460
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,840
But you have at that point, you have total control every every aspect of your network

1461
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,240
turned up to 11 up to 11.

1462
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:37,000
So if you buy a unified product, there is no reoccurring cost.

1463
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,240
That's my favorite part.

1464
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,240
Yes.

1465
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:43,680
Now the give is the support isn't always the best.

1466
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,720
I mean, who wants support really?

1467
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,160
So is it give and take?

1468
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,160
I'm not here to ask directions, Chris.

1469
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,720
I'm not paying any ongoing and I've got to see what's in the forums on their site to

1470
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,560
try to help.

1471
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,720
Same thing with TP link, Omada.

1472
01:06:58,720 --> 01:06:59,720
YouTube videos.

1473
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:00,720
That's all I'm saying.

1474
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,160
You know, there's probably a lot of that.

1475
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:08,400
And then even now, Meraki, who is a Cisco company, is getting into this with a product

1476
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,000
called Meraki Go.

1477
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,640
It's technically geared towards small business, but it would work great in your home.

1478
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:14,640
Great in your home.

1479
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:21,080
The advantage to Meraki Go, depending on the individual, is you manage it all from the

1480
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,880
app and you can also manage it from a cloud portal.

1481
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:25,880
Unify there is an app.

1482
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:26,880
Yeah, as well.

1483
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:27,880
I've been on it.

1484
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:28,880
I use it a few times.

1485
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:29,880
Yeah.

1486
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:38,840
So again, you can have that mobile ability to control and see what's going on.

1487
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,080
The Omada system has the exact same thing.

1488
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,080
Does it?

1489
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:43,080
Yes.

1490
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:47,720
Now, if you have deep pockets and you want to buy full bull Meraki, more power to you.

1491
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,360
Those reoccurring are going to sting.

1492
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:55,840
But if you've got deep pockets, you're not going to complain.

1493
01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:01,800
Not in this inflation, whatever we got going on now.

1494
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:02,800
Yeah.

1495
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,120
This is 30% inflation over the last three years.

1496
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,120
Feels that way.

1497
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,560
I'm just going to be quiet.

1498
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,280
And for those that are out there and you want to go full blown Cisco and you've got that

1499
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,920
capability and that knowledge, go for it.

1500
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:22,080
There are a lot of great dependable places out there that you can buy quality used Cisco

1501
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:29,200
gear and Meraki where you can get some really nice equipment at a cheap rate.

1502
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:34,840
Meraki, you've obviously got the reoccurring, but Cisco, there's no reoccurring.

1503
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:35,840
You can't.

1504
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,760
Now, if you did like a support contract or something like that, that's a different thing.

1505
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:39,760
That's different.

1506
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,760
And the main thing you would get out of that is they'll help you with configuration.

1507
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,840
If you don't know what you're doing, that's always a win.

1508
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:50,480
You get the software updates, assuming the equipment still is getting updates.

1509
01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:58,240
Then with the, depending on what you've got, you could have within five business days,

1510
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,040
you could have a replacement product if it was to die.

1511
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,440
If you want to go more, you can get next business day.

1512
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:07,640
Depends on how much fun you want to have.

1513
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:08,640
I mean, sure.

1514
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:09,640
Why not?

1515
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,680
So made of money.

1516
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,480
Again, what is your level of geek and how deep are your pockets?

1517
01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:16,720
How deep are your pockets?

1518
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:17,720
Yes.

1519
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:18,720
Always those two questions.

1520
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:19,720
Yes.

1521
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:24,400
And if you're married, please talk to your wife first.

1522
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:25,400
Don't do this on your own.

1523
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:26,400
Yeah.

1524
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,280
Don't say, but dear, they told me on the show.

1525
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:33,760
You might want to fill a cart and then figure out what that price actually is.

1526
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:34,760
Absolutely.

1527
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:35,760
Yes.

1528
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,480
Man, that was a good one.

1529
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:41,880
That was like drinking from a fire hose though.

1530
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:42,880
Yeah.

1531
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:43,880
We've had a couple of those.

1532
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:44,880
Yeah.

1533
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,520
Thanks for bringing the hammer.

1534
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:48,520
Yeah.

1535
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:53,040
We'll definitely get this in the show notes so anybody can go back and kind of look at

1536
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,360
what we were going over.

1537
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,440
Well, there was a lot of numbers for sure.

1538
01:09:56,440 --> 01:09:57,440
There's a lot of numbers.

1539
01:09:57,440 --> 01:09:59,440
You're not going to remember that off the top of your head.

1540
01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:00,440
No, no, no, no.

1541
01:10:00,440 --> 01:10:09,360
Maybe some links to some of these devices or manufacturers and stuff like that too.

1542
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:10,360
Yep.

1543
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:14,200
I'll be curious to see how well the transcript does this particular show.

1544
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,080
Yeah, that'd be interesting.

1545
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,680
All right, thanks brother.

1546
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:19,680
You enjoyed it, man.

1547
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:20,680
Good time.

1548
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:21,680
Good to see you.

1549
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:22,680
Good to see you.

1550
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:23,680
All right.

1551
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:24,680
See you later.

1552
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:25,680
See you everybody.

1553
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:26,680
Hey everybody.

1554
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:49,160
Beer and Gear is a value for value podcast.

1555
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:53,440
If you made it this far, then I would like to think you found some value from the show.

1556
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:58,520
If so, send us a boost with your Modern Podcast app like Fountain or Podfence.

1557
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:04,240
You can find Modern Podcast apps for Apple and Android at modernpodcastapps.com.

1558
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:08,400
When you send a boost, make sure to include a note that we can read on the show.

1559
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:14,000
Thanks everyone.

1560
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,000
Good try scumbag.

1561
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:27,400
Go to P Bash!

1562
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:32,120
You first.