1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:28,000 How's everybody doing? 2 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Hope everybody just heard that. 3 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,000 I know John's not here. 4 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,000 So we'll see how it goes in the, in the final minutes. 5 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 It's good to be back. 6 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,000 It's been a while. 7 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 It has been a while. 8 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Thanks for hanging with us. 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Yeah. 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Yeah. 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Have you, John in particular, attempted to listen to the previous show at all? 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,000 No, I didn't get to. 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Okay. 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:59,000 I threw a extra bonus in there if anybody was willing to kind of stick around and listen. 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:06,000 I took an episode of No Agenda that is kind of their episode that's best for people to 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:12,520 listen to, to learn the podcast and smash it on the end and then made sure to put stuff 17 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,520 in the show notes. 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,000 So like, Hey, if you enjoyed that bonus, go send those guys some sats. 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Nice. 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:25,000 So I also put a question in the show notes to see if anybody was even just reading them. 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Oh, wow. 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Yeah. 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,000 We'll see. 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,000 We'll see. 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,000 Yeah, we'll see. 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Nothing yet. 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Okay. 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 I mean, you know, still early. 29 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Oh yeah. 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Yeah. 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 So, Hey, what you drinking? 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,760 What are we drinking tonight, boys? 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,480 I have a Dragon's Milk Crenzen Keep. 34 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,000 This is from a brewery in Michigan. 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,720 Jason Court brought it to me. 36 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:54,720 Okay. 37 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,720 Yeah. 38 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,760 So it's a Red Ale aged in a bourbon barrel. 39 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,880 I haven't tried it yet. 40 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,400 So here goes for the first week. 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,760 Ooh. 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,560 Yeah. 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,560 You drink too many of those. 44 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,280 They'll put you on your hind end. 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,280 That's good. 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,640 It's like basically liquor, right? 47 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:17,640 Yeah. 48 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:20,120 You can really taste the bourbon. 49 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,640 But that's, that's good. 50 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:24,640 That's good. 51 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:28,280 You know, typically you have a Red Ale, you don't, you don't get anything like that. 52 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:34,160 So the fact that it came out of a bourbon barrel, that's a nice change. 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,680 I'm drinking the world's oldest brewery via Stefano. 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,680 Yeah. 55 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,960 I love that. 56 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,960 I'm impressed that you could pronounce it. 57 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Premium. 58 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,520 Well, I tried a few times. 59 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,760 I don't actually know if that's, I mean, you know, it's one of those things. 60 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Anyone here know how to say Worcestershire sauce? 61 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,840 I mean, we're all just butchering it. 62 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,560 But I've actually had this beer quite a few times and I like it. 63 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:07,240 It is a milder, blonder beer. 64 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:16,160 And it's perfect for those not laying down on your backside after the end of it. 65 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,160 Yes. 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,680 So we'll see how I hold up throughout the show. 67 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,680 Yeah. 68 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,680 Cheers. 69 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,680 That's good. 70 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,680 Yes. 71 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,680 I'll go slow on this one. 72 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,480 I'm not going to try one of those red keeps now. 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:39,720 I haven't seen this one in Tyler, but fresh does have the stout. 74 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,720 And I've had that before. 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,720 This is pretty good too. 76 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,720 Okay. 77 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,720 So. 78 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:45,720 All right. 79 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Well, everybody, it's new year. 80 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,280 New show. 81 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,880 New year 2024. 82 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:52,880 Yeah. 83 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:58,000 Yeah, I've already heard people joking while I've already screwed up. 84 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 So 2025 is my year. 85 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:08,760 I can't, I can't say I haven't screwed up yet, but I'm, I'm doing better in 2024 than 86 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,760 I was in 2023. 87 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,760 Holy cow. 88 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,760 That was a rough one. 89 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:12,760 Yeah. 90 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,840 I'm, I'm not prepared to say that it can't get any worse. 91 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:21,280 It seems like every year just keeps finding a new way to say, hold my beer. 92 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:28,120 So I'm going to, I'm going to lay off on that and we'll see what 2024 has in store. 93 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,680 Yeah, for sure. 94 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,800 I'm, I'm looking forward to it. 95 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:41,840 I think that it has the potential to, if I'll just let it come to me as opposed to trying 96 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:44,840 to, you know, muscle my way through it. 97 00:04:44,840 --> 00:04:59,000 Maybe, maybe this will be a better year, but you know, in the, in the, I guess, way of 98 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,800 the new year, I'm praying blessings over your year for sure. 99 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,800 Yes. 100 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:05,800 Yeah. 101 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:12,880 Hopefully we finally get this thing figured out and worst case scenario, I guess we'll, 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,240 we'll have to go back to doing the shows. 103 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:21,120 I guess, well, I say worst case, but if it comes down to it, we'll just go back to where 104 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,120 we did the first show. 105 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,120 Cause it worked like a champ. 106 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,160 Yeah, it did. 107 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,920 Seems like everything works a little bit easier when everybody's in the, in the same location. 108 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:30,920 Same room. 109 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:31,920 So, yeah. 110 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,760 So in going through this, I would have to say that some of the shows that I listened 111 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,960 to, they do a great job of making this remote piece look easy. 112 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,120 Yeah. 113 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,120 What is that? 114 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,120 Yeah. 115 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,760 They're just better at this than we are. 116 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,640 I guess when you do it for a living and you have, neither one of us is getting paid for 117 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,640 the crack. 118 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,640 There's no, no paid. 119 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,320 We're using our own gear. 120 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:00,640 We're not Chad Larsh's and we're not formally trained. 121 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,800 No, not formally trained. 122 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,120 We're informally trained. 123 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Informally. 124 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,120 That's correct. 125 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,120 Yeah. 126 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:17,520 I actually, man, I almost bought some gear this December at the end of the year, I guess. 127 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:24,920 I just, I'm realizing more and more like the, the majority of what I do is just me and I 128 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,760 want to be able to, you know, you know, like part of me wants to have a road caster or 129 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,440 like the, probably the duo or something like that. 130 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,080 We've joked about the streamer and things like that, but you know, at the end of the 131 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:44,280 day, it might just make better sense for me to get like a really high end USB-C mic and 132 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:47,200 stop messing with half of what I'm doing. 133 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,720 But yeah, I just always want a little more control. 134 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:53,720 Absolutely. 135 00:06:53,720 --> 00:07:00,920 So if, if I was buying now, I probably would buy the duo because it has everything that 136 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:08,520 this road caster has just minus the two channels and that wouldn't hurt me one bit. 137 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,520 No. 138 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:14,760 And there's been a lot of like, it's kind of funny. 139 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:22,960 I don't know if you've kept up with the, the X, the road, road X stuff that they're, that 140 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:23,960 they're doing. 141 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,360 Like they're not the only ones, but just as an example, because we were talking about 142 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:35,200 road caster this idea of, Oh no, we're, we're, we're going to look at the solo podcaster 143 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:42,600 or the streamer real hard and say, like, if we can put everything in the road caster on 144 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:50,720 a software and you just plug in your USB-C like that, that's pretty attractive to be 145 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,680 able to do all of that. 146 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Like you know, you're, you're running your from one computer. 147 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,840 You're still only using one computer, right? 148 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,840 Yep. 149 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,120 You're running your, your voice in through the road caster, but then you're also running 150 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:10,920 audio from your computer into the road caster and then back out to the computer, at least 151 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,240 the ones that I can hear then for me to be able to hear them. 152 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,080 And so there's, there's like, there's extra hurdles inside of that where they're saying 153 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,480 like, no, I can actually, and it actually works better. 154 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:33,080 Chris, this works better on windows machines than it does on Macs because windows has that 155 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:42,320 the ability to split audio out inside of per app. 156 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,160 What's going to it and what's not. 157 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:55,040 Whereas Mac has held onto that control because that's Apple. 158 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,680 Do it, do it our way is their motto. 159 00:08:57,680 --> 00:08:58,680 Yeah. 160 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:04,000 Now with road, I think they're calling, they're still calling that software unity. 161 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Is that correct? 162 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Yeah. 163 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:11,720 They, so it started out as a windows only piece of software, but now they've got a Mac 164 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:12,720 version. 165 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,200 It was, it may be out of beta. 166 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,200 I don't think it's in beta anymore. 167 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,200 But I've got it on this machine. 168 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,640 I've messed with it a little bit and it's, it's very nice. 169 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:30,920 I don't, I don't have any hesitation recommending it for people that are like, you know what, 170 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:38,000 that's a two or what is the, the duo, I think is it 500 or is it 600? 171 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 No, yeah, I think it is fine. 172 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 It's amazing that 173 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,760 It's like seven or eight for the full road caster. 174 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Yes. 175 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:52,760 And the stream is only like, or is the stream X streamer X. 176 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,760 Streamer X. 177 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:59,800 That's, that's another, I think it's 300 or something. 178 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,040 350 now. 179 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,040 Yeah. 180 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,200 And it's like, that's just a lot of money. 181 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:10,560 So if you're, if you're like, Hey, I found this USB-C mic that I really like, which I'm 182 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:15,680 telling you, like they've got the XDM 100 and the XCM. 183 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:17,120 And again, I'm just talking about road. 184 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,240 There's plenty of others. 185 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,000 But the, the XDM I think is 250. 186 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,440 So it's a savings in itself. 187 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:33,880 And then the XCM, which is a condenser mic, but it still sounds like, I mean, I say it 188 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:34,880 still sounds really good. 189 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Condenser condenser mic sounds really good. 190 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:44,360 But when I heard it, I didn't hear a lot of other room noise around it. 191 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,880 So that made me think maybe it could be just as good. 192 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,400 I'm really partial to dynamic microphones. 193 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,400 But that's me. 194 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,400 Yeah. 195 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Well, I mean, if you noticed, I've gone back to mine, I'm not on the, the Luit tonight 196 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,280 to see if it helps with some of the background pickup. 197 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,760 I mean, the Luit is amazing. 198 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,000 The sound quality. 199 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000 I love it. 200 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Yeah. 201 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,560 I just need a, it's hard to get away from that. 202 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:17,560 Like once you've heard that like really crisp sparkle, like clear clarity that comes from, 203 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:21,040 you know, these condenser microphones, they're, they're addictive. 204 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,960 And that's why, you know, you can easily spend thousands of dollars on a condenser microphone. 205 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:26,960 Yep. 206 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:32,920 I need a dedicated room that has sound treatment on the walls and the ceiling. 207 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,320 And then I can go back to the Luit full time. 208 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,320 Yeah, we all, we all need that. 209 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,320 The little booth. 210 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,920 You've seen those portable recording booths that are like just around your head. 211 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,160 I haven't seen that. 212 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:51,320 I've seen where you can buy basically a booth and it's kind of like three foot by maybe 213 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,920 four foot and you actually have a door so you can kind of walk in and shut the door 214 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,920 and you're inside of a mini, mini sound booth. 215 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:05,400 I know some folks use those for doing a voiceover from home. 216 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,400 Oh yeah. 217 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,360 Yeah, I've seen those. 218 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,920 We just bought, at the church, we just bought a full drum enclosure. 219 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,200 So it is intense. 220 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:26,040 It is, it is a, the box that it came in was more engineered than most things that I've 221 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,040 done. 222 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,040 It was ridiculous. 223 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,920 But it's going to be really good. 224 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,360 You know, that sound isolation is important. 225 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,480 Yeah, they'll definitely have to make sure they keep good cans on their ears so they 226 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,120 don't go deaf extra fast. 227 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,280 Oh my gosh. 228 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:57,960 Yeah, I almost bought my, or brought my custom molds for use today, but yeah, I forgot them. 229 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,080 They had no big deal. 230 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,080 No big deal. 231 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,080 All right. 232 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:10,280 Well for tonight, came up with an idea to talk about trends that we're seeing. 233 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:16,840 AV, IT, some of those may be good, some of those may be bad. 234 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:22,360 So any fellow employees that are listening, I'm not trying to be mean. 235 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,520 I'm not trying to be, to be bad. 236 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:31,520 I'm just sharing some opinion and it doesn't mean that it reflects on you in any way. 237 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,000 So get that full disclosure. 238 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,960 My mother would say, choose not to be offended. 239 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:37,960 There you go. 240 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,140 There you go. 241 00:13:41,140 --> 00:13:48,200 So I'm going to lead with the big one and that is going to be, for me, that's AI and 242 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,800 the whole chat GPT. 243 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,480 It has its places. 244 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:01,480 We've actually used it for basically scripting. 245 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,000 It's perfect for that. 246 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,880 You don't have a background in scripting and you're looking for a little help. 247 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,000 Chat GPT is a great way to go. 248 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:18,560 Now odds are they're scraping somebody's coat that they spent a lot of time and effort into 249 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:23,160 and then I get all the benefit without any of the work or knowing who did it. 250 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:28,000 So you can't even give credit to wherever credit is due, but the scripting that you 251 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,920 get back from it is top notch. 252 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:37,720 It's really saved us quite a bit when we've needed it, whether that's PowerShell script, 253 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,640 Bash shell. 254 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,640 It's great. 255 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,760 I was about to ask if you're using Basher. 256 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,600 Yeah, yeah. 257 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,840 We have both since we have Mac and PC. 258 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:57,600 So PC is better. 259 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,360 PC for the win. 260 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:06,600 So my kids have asked about it for schoolwork and that's where things start to get a little 261 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:18,160 kind of hairy and it's like, yeah, but you know, it's one thing if you're stuck on like 262 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,560 a math problem and you're looking for a solution. 263 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:27,040 Yeah, you can get, it can get you stuff like that, but you're not going to actually see 264 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,000 how it's being solved. 265 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:35,120 And we're constantly hearing stories about people using it to write papers and getting 266 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:41,840 exposed for the whole paper being chat GPT. 267 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,920 So you're going to have to always deal with that. 268 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:51,800 And the most recent one that I actually heard on a podcast is somebody had given feedback 269 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:57,960 to a developer and the feedback was, it was a little harsh and they ran it through chat 270 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,320 GPT and said, make this sound friendly. 271 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:08,240 And it did an amazing job of taking what was somebody just kind of bashing your app is 272 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,240 horrible. 273 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,240 I'm not going to use it. 274 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:18,960 It just worked and made it really nice and soft and yeah, where a developer could take 275 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,920 it and go, okay, yeah, those are good points. 276 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,400 You're not just destroying my app. 277 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,320 So that was interesting to see. 278 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,880 They did it in real time. 279 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,720 They found the post, copy paste and said, make this sound friendly. 280 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,240 And then they read it off right there on the show. 281 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,520 Wow. 282 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,360 So it has his use cases. 283 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:46,120 So I have a friend who's in higher education. 284 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Okay. 285 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:58,040 And he really is like, he's, he's not just teaching in a university, but he is actively 286 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:05,680 involved in teaching trends and trying to figure out best best practices when it comes 287 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,680 to a lot of things. 288 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,820 And as you can imagine, this is a big deal in universities and stuff like that. 289 00:17:10,820 --> 00:17:15,480 He had a take that I did not actually see coming. 290 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,880 He was like, I don't think this kind of AI is going away. 291 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:26,020 What we have to do as educators, especially as college educators is teach our students 292 00:17:26,020 --> 00:17:30,000 how to use the tools that they have the most effective. 293 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:38,200 And so he was saying, teach them how to use chat GPT in the best way that they can. 294 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:43,200 And I was like, now that like, that's, that's tough on me because I remember having to write 295 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:49,280 50 page papers and not enjoying that. 296 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:56,480 And you're telling me somebody could do a 50 page paper with chat GBT with less effort 297 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,640 because they don't have to come up with exactly the words and the phrasing and all that stuff. 298 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,560 They just kind of have to give an outline of what they want it to be. 299 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:12,960 And he was like, yes, I think that that is kind of the nature of an evolving tool market. 300 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:25,560 You don't ask a mechanic anymore if they can redo the, you know, the timing on the spark 301 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,200 or the timing on them. 302 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,680 Oh my gosh. 303 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,440 Now I'm blanking on names. 304 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,440 Timing chain, camshaft. 305 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:39,680 I was thinking more of the rotor. 306 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:40,680 Holy crap. 307 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,680 Yeah. 308 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,040 The rotor with the old school rotor cap and button. 309 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,840 There you go. 310 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,240 Trying to, trying to get that to, to, to sing that way because the cars aren't made that 311 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,240 way anymore. 312 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,040 They made a different way. 313 00:18:54,040 --> 00:19:00,560 And I was like, I, I, it's hard for me to like, get over that because it feels like 314 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:07,280 such an injustice that, you know, they don't have to do what I had to do. 315 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,700 But that's also kind of the nature of everything inside of progress. 316 00:19:12,700 --> 00:19:17,880 We are in fact talking to each other through this computer. 317 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,680 It's a different world. 318 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,680 It is. 319 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:30,440 And I'm sure the people who had to only use a library were frustrated when people had 320 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,720 encyclopedias to use. 321 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:40,240 And I'm sure both of those people were frustrated as eventually you had computers that you could 322 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,240 use. 323 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,320 Oh man. 324 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,320 And then now with... 325 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:49,000 I don't want to like give away ages too much, but I'm telling you, when I was writing books, 326 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:54,960 when I was writing papers, we weren't allowed to use internet sources, anything that was 327 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Googled or anything, because they were not reputable. 328 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,120 You could not like, not it. 329 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:02,680 You got to go find it in the library. 330 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,880 And oh my gosh. 331 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,160 Yeah. 332 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,320 It's amazing what can be done with chat GPT. 333 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,040 And I don't like that they call it AI. 334 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,520 It's really not artificial intelligence. 335 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,120 They're really large language models. 336 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:26,800 And so you're basically giving it all the pieces that it needs. 337 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:32,200 You're just coming up with the prompting for it to give you what it wants and the structure 338 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,400 that you're looking for. 339 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:40,280 So AI is a little bit of a misnomer there. 340 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:48,000 It's almost skip logic in a way, more so than AI. 341 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,680 I'm a hardliner when it comes to AI. 342 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:56,760 To me, artificial intelligence, I guess, basically I'm talking to chat and GPT, the large language 343 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,720 model is purely the English language. 344 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,840 And it starts coming off. 345 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:08,320 And I guess even within that, it's going to still be limited in what it can do. 346 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:14,920 So when it starts coming up with things that are not in the model, okay, now we're talking 347 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,840 AI, something has happened. 348 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:23,400 It's pulling information that it doesn't have, shouldn't have. 349 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,400 Something is learning. 350 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:31,240 Something is, we're basically Skynet at that point and we're all in trouble. 351 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,480 That's not coming anytime soon. 352 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:40,400 Don't talk to Cody about his time in Vegas this past time. 353 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,200 There's a scary video. 354 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,200 Okay. 355 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,160 I will have to ask him about that. 356 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:53,080 I'd love to know. 357 00:21:53,080 --> 00:22:03,920 There may have been a robotic personage that was making eye contact with people and then 358 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,280 asking them where they were from. 359 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:13,760 And then based on that, asking them what they like to do and then talking about how they 360 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:22,120 of course like to do that because there's so many islands around where they live and 361 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:23,120 having a conversation. 362 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:29,400 I was like, somebody pull that plug. 363 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,760 But again, that's all happening through large language model. 364 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:42,000 So there, you've basically, again, it has all of the knowledge that it needs to carry 365 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:50,200 on a conversation, which is why it can write you a 50 page paper and it makes sense. 366 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,760 It's when it starts skipping out into things that it has no knowledge of. 367 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,600 That's where we've gone. 368 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,520 Artificial intelligence, that's when we have a problem. 369 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:07,400 So as long as it's returning things that are solely based off of the model that it's running, 370 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,240 it's just running in loops. 371 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,520 It knows how to structure because it's all baked into the model. 372 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,400 So that's why I say to me, I don't see it as AI. 373 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:23,840 AI is when these things start learning things that we haven't given them. 374 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:32,680 Now, I have no doubt that it's probably creepy to be looking at a robot and having a conversation 375 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:38,280 and it sounds like it knows exactly what it's talking about as if it's seen these things, 376 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,280 experienced these things. 377 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:45,760 And I'm sure that is creepy as all get out, especially when it looks like a human being. 378 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,760 Yeah. 379 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,720 I mean, with the eye contact and everything, that's messed up. 380 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Yeah. 381 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:58,760 That makes me start thinking of, was it the most recent version of Blade Runner? 382 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,760 Yeah. 383 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Kind of getting into that level. 384 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,320 Yikes. 385 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,000 So I agree. 386 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,080 Yeah, Chachi's a trend for sure. 387 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,080 Oh yeah. 388 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,080 It's not going anywhere. 389 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:21,960 There's of course now Elon has jumped in the game with Gronk or whatever it is he's calling 390 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,480 his version of it. 391 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:31,120 I don't know that I share his vision of AI is going to kill us all. 392 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:37,520 I mean, I could be completely wrong and he ends up being right in the end, but it just 393 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,680 didn't seem like we're anywhere near that. 394 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,680 Close to there. 395 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,680 Yeah. 396 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:50,200 And I never interpreted scripture to be, Oh, hey, watch out for the AI. 397 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,320 So I don't, I don't, I don't think I've read that. 398 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:01,240 No, unless there is some newfangled interpretation that I am not aware of. 399 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,760 So, but yeah, unfortunately AI is not going anywhere. 400 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,600 The whole concept of it. 401 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:14,680 I'd be curious to see how long this train can go because all previous iterations and 402 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:19,480 attempts at AI, they kind of peaked and it fell apart. 403 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:27,920 So I'll be curious to see how long, how long this lasts or what potentially is going to 404 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,680 potentially replace it as it starts to fade away. 405 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:36,800 Cause there's always going to be the next thing. 406 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Always. 407 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:46,000 That's, it's, I mean, you know, we talk about trends, there's nothing actually new under 408 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,000 the sun. 409 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,800 I do believe that. 410 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,320 So it's just a loop like you were talking about. 411 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,320 Yep. 412 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,320 With stuff like this. 413 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,800 It all repeats itself. 414 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:03,600 Cause I guess it was sixties was some of the first iteration of AI and then it came back 415 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:09,800 in the eighties and then now it's back again. 416 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,040 And we've seen, I remember in the eighties, it was kind of like, Oh no, like this isn't 417 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,040 a thing. 418 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:21,720 And so there was, there was, there was a lot of like buildup and then it just disappeared. 419 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,120 Like it wasn't like we weren't, we're nowhere close. 420 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:28,440 So VR is another great example of that cycle. 421 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,440 Yeah. 422 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,040 They keep trying to bring it back and bring it back and bring it back. 423 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,200 You know, they're really trying to ride that train now. 424 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,200 It's interesting. 425 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,200 It's fun. 426 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,160 It's, it's actually not bad for games. 427 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,240 It feels, it feels very immersive. 428 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:50,680 But I just don't think people want to live in a VR environment all day long. 429 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:56,200 And there may, there may be some, but the vast majority of people, it's, it's not, you 430 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,040 know, it's not going to be like ready player one. 431 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,040 No. 432 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:05,920 And I like that they've, that they've started doing the, or focusing more on the augmented 433 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,880 reality instead of just virtual reality. 434 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,480 The idea that you can, you can adapt what you're seeing. 435 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:20,720 I'm actually pretty excited about Apple's headset when it comes to that. 436 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:28,040 If not, I'm not going to own one, but like, if, if that, if that pushes anything forward 437 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:33,040 in terms of research and everything like that, I like that idea. 438 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:44,840 I like the idea that like, I laugh, my wife and her sister have recently picked up Pokemon 439 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,840 Go. 440 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,640 So it's really funny when we're driving in the car and I hear my wife say, slow down. 441 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,680 I need to catch this. 442 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,040 Now that was a great example, I think of augmented reality. 443 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:05,200 When that game released and seeing on the news of all things, people swarming all over 444 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:12,200 towns staring at the world through their phone and just kind of like, it was, it was crazy 445 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,200 to see, but again, a great example of augmented reality. 446 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,160 I like the concept of augmented reality. 447 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:31,520 So you're at a art museum, a history museum, you're at a civil war location where a battle 448 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:39,640 went on, you know, to be able to augment what you're seeing, you get that extra information, 449 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,400 they get that extra detail. 450 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,040 I really love the idea of that. 451 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:51,840 I don't know that that's quite catching on, but I certainly love the idea of that far 452 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,160 better than virtual reality. 453 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:03,720 There was a trend about 10 years ago in worship centers and worship. 454 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:12,160 I guess it was 10 years ago, maybe later than that. 455 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:25,600 But the idea was a lot of churches were using multipurpose or just really blank canvas areas 456 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,600 for worship. 457 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:34,800 You know, this is also doubling as a basketball goal or basketball court, or it's just really 458 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,040 blank. 459 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:44,120 Like it's a black box studio and we have, you know, these cream colored walls or whatever 460 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,640 is a lot of things painted black and a lot of sound treatment and different things like 461 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,640 that. 462 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,640 And they started doing this thing. 463 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:59,120 I'm sure you remember at least part of this, where they would bring in projectors and project 464 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,120 all over. 465 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:08,600 Now I remember, gosh, it must have been longer than 10 years ago, whenever it was first being 466 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,600 a thing. 467 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Because I remember then going to Disney World with my wife and they were projecting things 468 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,080 on the castles for the big shows and everything like that. 469 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:29,440 And I was like, wow, everybody is catching on to things like this and catching on. 470 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:37,960 This is a thing for a lot more people than I think I realized at the time that if you 471 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:44,320 can augment your reality in one way or another, you know, I think in my mind, I had always 472 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:52,360 considered at that point, anything augmented reality would be through like a Google lens 473 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,520 or whatever it was or something like that. 474 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:02,480 I kind of saw that as the future, but the idea of just using a projector behind people 475 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:15,800 to make the area around us be able to transport us into a different frame of mind. 476 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:27,360 I really enjoy things like that because I think that we neglect, especially us sitting 477 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:33,320 here in front of computers all day long, you and I have a lot of that same like, excuse 478 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,920 me, our job requires that we really be on a screen and really be whatever. 479 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,720 And there's a posture of sitting and maybe you get a stand desk or something like that 480 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,320 where you can go in between. 481 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,880 But so much of your doing is right here. 482 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:54,000 And you know, maybe if you're lucky, you have multiple screens. 483 00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:01,840 But the idea that that's not really a human behavior to sit for that long and to look 484 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:11,100 at pixels for that long, that it's better, our brains function better if we can be in 485 00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:17,680 an environment and manipulate with all of our senses. 486 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,720 That there's a, you know, not to get too granola about it, but the, that there's this sense 487 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:37,960 that you actually have all of these senses to be used and not just for your consumption 488 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,960 of things. 489 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,280 And that's intense. 490 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:50,480 Like it gets real quick when you start to realize how important it is. 491 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,480 And so that's kind of a funny thing to talk about when you're talking about an augmented 492 00:32:54,480 --> 00:33:02,280 reality because you are manipulating your senses in a way and not making it, it's not 493 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,280 real. 494 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:13,560 Excuse me, I'm having a hard time getting that out of my throat. 495 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,640 But I think it's still an important difference. 496 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,640 Man, sorry man. 497 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,920 You have to get your cough button. 498 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:30,280 Yeah, I don't, it's not growing away. 499 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,280 That's rough. 500 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,280 It just kind of came over me. 501 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,560 Edit this part out. 502 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,840 I'm going to start crying. 503 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,640 What did I do? 504 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,640 You need some water? 505 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,640 Beer. 506 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,640 Beer. 507 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,280 There you go. 508 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,280 That's always the answer. 509 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,280 Yeah. 510 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,000 So you were talking about projection. 511 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,000 I don't know if they still do it. 512 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:06,800 But Central Baptist, I don't know if you've visited there, seen, they do projection behind 513 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,440 the band during the worship section. 514 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,480 And so we had visited there because that's where my in-laws go. 515 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,880 And that's the first time I'd ever seen it in person. 516 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,080 It wasn't anything crazy, anything over the top. 517 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:27,760 It was just really kind of meant to just kind of blend in to the worship service. 518 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:34,600 And they even got to where they went and painted the walls back there white so they can get 519 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,720 the projection of what they were wanting to do. 520 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:42,360 So yeah, that was the first time I'd ever seen that in a church service. 521 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,280 I'm a big fan of that. 522 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:50,400 I think that that's a good use of that type of technology and that type of space. 523 00:34:50,400 --> 00:35:01,040 And there's all kinds of, when we talk about worship centers, worship rooms, what we used 524 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,960 to call sanctuaries, there's a lot of hangups with technology. 525 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:16,040 And I feel like you're kind of missing the point in a way that I grew up in during worship 526 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,040 wars. 527 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,960 You're either a hymn singing church or a contemporary church. 528 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,000 This one's bad or this one's good or this one is better for this. 529 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,920 This one is, you're just singing those 7-Eleven songs. 530 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:38,240 Like all of the cliches bouncing around in my head. 531 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,040 And I had really level-headed parents. 532 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:50,880 So I got to see the, as a kid, I definitely had a preference, but I got to see so much 533 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:57,040 value in the other side because of the way that my parents interacted with me and with 534 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,120 music in general. 535 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:13,160 So I feel like that has allowed me to be more platform agnostic with so many things when 536 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:21,040 it comes to how you do what you do. 537 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:28,000 And I think that that's an important thing to be able to learn. 538 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,800 Does this help someone? 539 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,080 Does this make this better for someone? 540 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:39,080 You look at a child in a worship service or at Disney World. 541 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,720 Let's just talk about Disney World. 542 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:44,440 They're immediately transported. 543 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:50,360 You go to the Peter Pan ride or something like that and it's super low tech, but they're 544 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:57,920 actually projecting expressions onto the faces of the dolls in that ride and stuff like that. 545 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,760 And kind of creating motion because of it. 546 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,120 And the child is like, oh, I'm there. 547 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,120 Like I'm in the movie. 548 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,120 This is happening. 549 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,720 I am actually, that is actually Captain Hook. 550 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,960 I can tell because I recognize the way that he's doing his face like that. 551 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:23,360 And it's like those things, I think, are trigger points in all of us and being able to use 552 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:30,320 all of that in a way that isn't just sensory overload, but it's actually helping. 553 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,880 I think it's a tough line. 554 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,240 I'm not going to pretend like it's an easy thing to do. 555 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:44,680 I'm not going to pretend like you can't overdo it or make things so ridiculous that they 556 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,000 are distracting. 557 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,440 But it's also going to be a different line for so many people. 558 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,000 So not easy. 559 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,000 Yeah. 560 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Yeah. 561 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:04,560 I think I would love to go just to see the Star Wars piece that Disney has without going 562 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,120 too much of a tangent. 563 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,840 I wouldn't want it to be Disney Star Wars. 564 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,080 I want George Lucas Star Wars, but I think it would be an amazing experience. 565 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:19,240 So I will tell you, we got to go this past summer again. 566 00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:30,600 My best is being able to see things through my kid's eyes. 567 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,600 That is the best. 568 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:45,040 But when we walked into the Star Wars area of not Hollywood, yeah, Hollywood studios. 569 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,520 When we walked into that area, I was transported. 570 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,280 I was a little kid. 571 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,560 I actually experienced it because there's plenty that's the new Star Wars stuff and 572 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,560 blah, blah, blah. 573 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:07,040 But just the way that they have everything looking, they did a good job with that. 574 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:13,120 And walking into it definitely felt like, oh no, I'm there. 575 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,800 Which is, I mean, that was pretty cool. 576 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,280 It's hard to not be a little bit grateful at that point. 577 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,760 Not that gratitude is bad. 578 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,800 I'm sure eventually we'll get there. 579 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,920 I'd love to see it once just to experience it. 580 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,640 And I have no doubt that I'll totally turn into a kid and start making lightsaber sounds 581 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,960 and throwing out quotes. 582 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,960 I almost bought a helmet. 583 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,720 I was like, I'm about to buy an X-Wing fighter helmet. 584 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,440 It doesn't fit my head, but I'm going to buy it. 585 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,440 That's okay. 586 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,440 I'll put it on my desk. 587 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,440 Why not? 588 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,440 Yeah. 589 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 590 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,320 I don't have room on my desk for that. 591 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,520 You'd make room. 592 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,920 So I do want to circle back to one thing that I just realized. 593 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:05,840 I forgot to ask you on chat and GPT, just to see if you're hearing anything in the trends 594 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:16,080 of this in terms of chat GPT impacting Bible study and the concept of chat GPT being used 595 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:22,600 to try to create the sermon. 596 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,320 Have you heard any trends in that at all? 597 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,880 I haven't. 598 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,600 That's an interesting thing. 599 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:38,720 I feel like I've got an opinion on that pretty obviously. 600 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:39,720 I shouldn't even say obviously. 601 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:43,880 I should say pretty typically have an opinion on that. 602 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:51,920 When it comes to a sermon, that feels really disingenuous to me because of what a sermon 603 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,920 is supposed to be. 604 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,720 I was just relaying information. 605 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,520 Correct. 606 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:06,000 But that is in my mind at least a unique point. 607 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,640 A Bible study even like. 608 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,520 Wow, that's something to think about. 609 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,680 I haven't heard it, but I mean it exists. 610 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:22,040 It absolutely exists because it's out there because it's a tool that people can use. 611 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,280 It absolutely exists. 612 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,280 Oh yeah. 613 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,200 And that's again, that's where the large language model is what would drive it all. 614 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:36,680 You can literally create a model that is unique to the Bible and any commentary or anything 615 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:42,080 else that you want to throw in there and then start asking questions and it can just start 616 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:49,200 throwing stuff back at a rate that we couldn't achieve on our own in such a short period 617 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,200 of time. 618 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,720 Does he didn't know if you'd heard any any impact of that yet? 619 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:58,160 I'm sure it's it's out there on the on the horizon somewhere. 620 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:05,720 Yeah, and I would say that it's probably being used and not being advertised as being used 621 00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:06,720 currently. 622 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:07,720 That's true. 623 00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:17,680 I mean, I can I can almost guarantee it because there's money to be made. 624 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,600 I don't want to be too cynical about that. 625 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,360 It's hard for me to imagine somebody using it and thinking like, oh, I'm really going 626 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,320 to help a lot more people this way. 627 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:32,080 It doesn't feel right, but you know, feelings aren't everything. 628 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,080 Sure. 629 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:38,280 I could see it being used as a shortcut to a quick way to get to where you think you're 630 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,280 trying to go. 631 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,280 That's rough. 632 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:50,480 I know that our pastor, Chris, just he's just finished a book. 633 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,960 I mean, I don't know exactly where they are in the editing process, but I know that he 634 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,440 wouldn't. 635 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:03,640 That's not something he would have been OK with if they had just chat GPT. 636 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:09,480 Well, chat GPT could write your book, though. 637 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,480 For sure. 638 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,280 All you got to do is work out your monster. 639 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,280 Monkey's trying to type out Shakespeare. 640 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,280 Yes. 641 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,280 Yes. 642 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,280 So. 643 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,280 All right. 644 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,360 Well, let's shift gears. 645 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:29,560 And so what are trends that you're seeing specifically on the AV front? 646 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:36,240 OK, so a lot of the trends that I'm seeing on the AV front are sorry, one of the trends 647 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:40,000 that I'm seeing on the AV front, a lot of them seem to be focused around the same type 648 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,840 of thing. 649 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:52,520 But so when everything had to go mobile in 2020 or not mobile online in 2020, there were 650 00:43:52,520 --> 00:44:04,980 a lot of like quick lessons for everybody on cameras, lighting. 651 00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:11,680 This is really important for you to be able to do really fast. 652 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:16,880 And so it kind of went big really quick. 653 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,480 Like we got to we got to do big setups. 654 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,440 We got to make sure that like, you know, there was like obviously there was we need to be 655 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:32,880 able to do small churches, just a camera on a or not a camera, a phone on a tripod type 656 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,880 things. 657 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,200 So when it got past like that level, then it turned into like we got to we got to go 658 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,200 as big as possible. 659 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,960 We got to get the production level. 660 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:47,640 You know, again, speaking of words that are not. 661 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,640 Smile that in a church setting. 662 00:44:49,640 --> 00:45:00,080 We got to get the production level up and we got to we got to produce something excellent. 663 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:06,120 And so like that that really drove this, I think. 664 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:12,640 People you know, doing a whole lot of. 665 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,360 If you're going for a phone, you probably went to a PTZ. 666 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,040 And then if you were going from a PTZ, then you probably went to like a bigger like actual 667 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,600 broadcast type camera. 668 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:27,880 And you know, there were there were these upgrade trends that were going on. 669 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:34,160 What I've been most interested by now, four years later. 670 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:40,840 Is the it seems like right now. 671 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,900 The trend is going. 672 00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:53,640 For gear, at least the most like advancements that we're seeing are in small sensor. 673 00:45:53,640 --> 00:46:05,480 Photos and especially in things like GoPro Insta 360 DJI Pocket Cinema and things like 674 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,760 that that are really like small. 675 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:15,800 Making one person. 676 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:22,040 Shooting one person like, you know, you can talk about the like vlog setup or whatever. 677 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,560 Absolutely. 678 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:29,400 But just that like have all all all you need with just you. 679 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,440 And I'm interested by that because it feels like like that should have been. 680 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:39,240 The immediate fruit of 2020 because everybody was separated. 681 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:43,260 And maybe it is maybe like this has taken four years for a lot of these advancements 682 00:46:43,260 --> 00:46:45,600 to really hit. 683 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:51,240 Or it you know, they got some traction and then they've pulled out or pulled ahead because 684 00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:52,240 of this. 685 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:56,120 But like image stabilization. 686 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,960 I don't know that that would have happened. 687 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,520 I mean, I know that it would have happened, but I don't know that that would have been 688 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,460 as big of a deal. 689 00:47:04,460 --> 00:47:07,560 If we hadn't had 2020 type things. 690 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,680 And right now, like image stabilization that's going on with all of these different small 691 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:18,120 cameras is insane. 692 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,760 But you even see it in things like in Canon, the last few cameras that Canon has put out 693 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,480 have had their big lenses on them, the RF lenses. 694 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,120 But they're also all of them have been APS-C style. 695 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:36,560 Have been a smaller. 696 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,760 I guess more consumer driven package. 697 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,720 And you're kind of seeing that across all these different levels. 698 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:50,720 I'm hearing less and less about the red Komodo. 699 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:59,280 Leica sure has hung in there with like their 16 megapixel, $6,000 cameras. 700 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,280 That's crazy. 701 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,480 And I think Sony still has their alpha, I think is pretty big. 702 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,920 47 megapixels. 703 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:18,320 But a lot of like even the DSLR bodies that are more common or, you know, yeah, we can 704 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,760 say more common are going for less megapixels. 705 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:29,160 They're going for, they're really going for shutter speed. 706 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:37,560 They're really going for the f-stop being as low as possible and by low, you know what 707 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,720 I mean? 708 00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:49,800 Low number, high brightness or big opening, whatever you want. 709 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:56,320 Anyway, and that like portability factor is huge right now. 710 00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:06,600 So it's also really funny because like this camera is ridiculous now, like in so many 711 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,600 ways. 712 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,180 So it's like, well, obviously they're having to compete against everybody having their 713 00:49:11,180 --> 00:49:16,240 own camera that they didn't have to pay extra money for in their pockets. 714 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:20,580 So they've got to come out with these things that are making it better. 715 00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:21,860 This is why you need this. 716 00:49:21,860 --> 00:49:25,020 This is why you need this extra whatever. 717 00:49:25,020 --> 00:49:39,320 And it's like every one of these producers and I guess I'm thinking GoPro, Insta360, 718 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,320 DJI. 719 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:53,080 There was another one. 720 00:49:53,080 --> 00:50:00,300 They all have multiple offerings and they're all tweaked a little bit, but it's, it's, 721 00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:01,560 they're all small. 722 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:02,560 They're all tiny. 723 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,000 Like it's all about portability. 724 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,040 It's all about having it on you. 725 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:18,120 This is the adage like adage, the best camera for you is the camera that you have on you. 726 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:24,120 Everybody is like taking that to the like level of just clip it on you, even with you 727 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,600 pointed out all the time. 728 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,960 And it's just like, it's like, there's, there's a lot of use cases. 729 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:38,160 You know, I don't know how many dash cams I've seen on YouTube catching the craziest 730 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,160 stuff. 731 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,160 Rush is good for that. 732 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:47,080 The Rush and dash cam videos are off the charts. 733 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,520 They really are. 734 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:57,800 But things like that, that I, I think I, I was just, I was expecting and maybe the reason 735 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:03,480 that this hit home to her, that I noticed this so much is that I was expecting, I was 736 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,160 expecting the opposite. 737 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:11,080 I was expecting once we kind of got through the like run and gun, you need to be able 738 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:18,320 to do all this by yourself phase, which it seems like we should be past that now. 739 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:23,840 We should have gone towards the higher stuff, but you know, you also got to think about 740 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,400 things like it's a down economy. 741 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,120 Stuff like that costs more. 742 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:35,520 They're getting away with selling some of these things for much more than I feel like 743 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,520 that they should be. 744 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,520 Correct. 745 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,120 And then they'd, they'd only be making them higher priced if they were bigger sensors 746 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,000 and things like that. 747 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,920 So I don't know. 748 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:52,760 Maybe we're setting the stage again for another, like, this is a big thing. 749 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:53,760 Yeah. 750 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,960 Could be, could be for the next, the next big leap. 751 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:08,720 I know for me, what I'm seeing on the AV side is the deeper in embracement of IP. 752 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:15,720 It seems like all AV equipment now is becoming network connected in some way. 753 00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:21,600 And it really blurs the lines between IT and AV. 754 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:29,160 And it's getting to the point where you're not having to have necessarily a dedicated 755 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,640 network just for it. 756 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:35,520 It can just flow right over top of all the other existing IP traffic that's out there. 757 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:43,200 The endpoints can strip out what it is that they need and ignore and ignore the rest. 758 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,040 So I'm excited about that. 759 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:52,280 I love that they're embracing this footprint of your network and going, yeah, we're going 760 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:59,080 to pull that right in and we're going to totally leverage that to make devices more accessible 761 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:04,760 to pass your camera footage across. 762 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,720 I'm really excited about the possibilities of that. 763 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:13,200 The fact that you can be just about anywhere and gain access to whatever it is that you're 764 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,120 needing to do to troubleshoot. 765 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:21,960 Even if you still have to VPN to your network from an external, once you're in, you can 766 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:28,160 pretty well connect to just about all of your AV equipment and troubleshoot with somebody 767 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,360 over the phone. 768 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,760 And it's getting to where less and less you have to actually be there. 769 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,120 And you can just say, okay, I'm in an adjustment. 770 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,120 What are you seeing? 771 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,120 To me, that's huge. 772 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:46,640 It doesn't necessarily require being physically present with all the equipment anymore. 773 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:56,240 Yeah, that's the, there was actually a church front is a YouTube channel that they do a 774 00:53:56,240 --> 00:54:04,560 lot of AV and tech videos for guys in, in, you know, worship ministries. 775 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:09,480 And one of the things that they just, I didn't get to watch it yet, but I didn't notice it 776 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:17,840 was one of their video titles was about how to run sound not present. 777 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:24,600 And I was like, Oh my, that's, I mean, it's very possible. 778 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:33,680 I could VPN and do all kinds of things to our sound boards and to our sound in the room 779 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,080 at our church. 780 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,160 But I'm not there like without being there. 781 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,120 I know I'm not that I, I'm not that guy. 782 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,440 I need to be in the room. 783 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:50,440 I don't feel right about changing anything, not being present, but it's possible. 784 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,440 And you're right. 785 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,160 Like that, that technology is growing exponentially. 786 00:54:54,160 --> 00:55:04,640 It's I mean, it's funny to think about that one having its roots well before this need 787 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,080 arose, you know, AV was already moving. 788 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:16,360 Going into being able to remote into it because AV racks, if people that have worked on AV 789 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,520 racks know it's not easy. 790 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:25,340 If like when, when, when everything was analog, when you were, you know, messing with a class 791 00:55:25,340 --> 00:55:30,620 A amplifier that had to be in a rack because it was just heavy and there was two cables 792 00:55:30,620 --> 00:55:33,080 going into it and two cables coming out of it. 793 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:38,280 Like there was a, there was a time when you just turn a knob, absolutely. 794 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:45,040 And it was super important to turn that knob the right way and to the right number. 795 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:53,560 But now, you know, you're talking about class D amplifiers and that are all also having 796 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,280 DSP inside of them and stuff like that. 797 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,480 And it's, it's just a totally different world. 798 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,520 Like it's not, it's not the same thing. 799 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:14,360 And you've got FX racks that are not located in the same room as the, that's the sources 800 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,480 that they're affecting. 801 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,560 Like that's, that's crazy to me. 802 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:32,400 Like it's just, you know, but the network cable has made audio so much easier to do. 803 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:43,680 I remember hauling big 32 channel snakes and having to untangle them all the way up the 804 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,560 side of a room. 805 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:48,560 That was not fun. 806 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:49,560 Nope. 807 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,560 Now it's a single cat five table. 808 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,560 Yep. 809 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,560 It's a win. 810 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,560 It's a win. 811 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,560 I love the Dante. 812 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:58,560 Absolutely. 813 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,960 I absolutely love that. 814 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,000 We have started getting into some of the QSC. 815 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:14,840 I forget their, their name of it, but it's basically their version of Dante. 816 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,760 And that's amazing to see. 817 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,960 At that conference that I went to, we talked about a couple episodes back. 818 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:30,520 QSC was one of the companies that I saw a demo of and their ability to like, they've 819 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:39,520 taken it into like installation information type things where they're like, no, we're 820 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,320 going to tell you, I'm going to play the music. 821 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,480 You stand there and we're going to tell you exactly where those speakers need to be pointed 822 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,840 to what degree they need to be down. 823 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:54,200 We're going to then take over the array set up to make sure that the arrays aren't canceling 824 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,200 each other out. 825 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,360 So we're only sending certain frequencies through each of the arrays. 826 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,320 It was like, I was super impressed. 827 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:07,080 It got real loud in that little room, but they're doing some pretty incredible things. 828 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,080 Yep. 829 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,640 We need to get you to the shores. 830 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:18,440 So you can see what Jason has put together. 831 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,920 Basically he removed the board. 832 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,440 There's no longer a board in the dining hall. 833 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,480 There is a rack mounted unit. 834 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:33,640 I know he'd be mad at me for not being able to remember the specifics in the model, but 835 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:38,840 it's all configured via a web interface. 836 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,720 And then you use their app. 837 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:49,360 And so the staff have an iPad and it's, you only have the controls that you give them 838 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,080 and that's it. 839 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:58,520 It's completely simplified and you don't have to worry about all the unnecessary pieces 840 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,080 and somebody made an adjustment to the board and now we've got to figure out what they 841 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:07,880 did and get that back or find the backup and restore. 842 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:08,880 None of that exists. 843 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:14,240 They can only do what he gives them access to and that's it. 844 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:20,040 And they can be anywhere, anywhere in the room with an iPad and make whatever adjustments 845 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,040 they need to. 846 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:28,040 That made me think, hold on just a second. 847 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:33,040 I know this is super unprofessional. 848 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:50,320 Yeah, I mean, I was looking at the QSC for like, Alan and Heath also has one of these 849 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:55,440 rack mounts, smaller units that you have some control actually over the unit. 850 00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:04,840 QSC has a bunch of mixers that are like the touch mix style, but he's probably talking 851 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:12,360 about like the QSC MP-M80 eight zone mixer or the four zone mixer that are just like 852 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,920 they look like Furman almost with the way that they're designed. 853 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,840 Yeah, if I remember the way they work, it's really hard. 854 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,880 No control at the rack. 855 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,280 You have to remote into them to be able to do anything with them. 856 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,280 Yeah. 857 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,880 It's really all about controlling input output and it has so many ins and so many outs and 858 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:36,960 then you can get the expansion pieces that go in to give you the additional IO and then 859 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,560 you're just programming it and saying, here's your controls. 860 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,560 It's huge. 861 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:48,080 You don't need all the space for boards anymore. 862 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,000 It goes right in the rack with all the IT gear. 863 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,880 You don't have to have dedicated spaces for a bunch of AV. 864 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,000 It's really interesting to see. 865 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,120 I know we're going to continue that trend. 866 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,280 So I'm ready to see more of that. 867 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,440 Oh, absolutely. 868 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,160 All right. 869 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,640 Well I probably better end it here. 870 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:20,000 I know we've been in, I hate to stop it because we've just been kind of flowing and going 871 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:27,080 with it and it feels like we're kind of hitting a stride and now we're shutting it down. 872 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,560 We'll continue that stride into next time. 873 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:30,560 Yeah. 874 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,520 So unfortunately for this time there is no... 875 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,600 The Boostergram sound booth. 876 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,200 Uh-oh, bummer. 877 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,800 We didn't get any Boostergram. 878 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,240 So we'll see what happens for next time. 879 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,240 So but... 880 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:47,600 I mean it was just Jason. 881 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:48,600 Yeah, it was. 882 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:49,600 It was just Jason. 883 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:50,600 He's been busy. 884 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,600 I'll be honest. 885 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:57,120 Yeah, I've traveled back to Michigan to see family and everything, but he's back now. 886 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,280 Kind of a teaser for next show. 887 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:06,720 We're going to dig into more AV concepts and some of the equipment. 888 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:11,400 In particular, we're talking about compression and compressors. 889 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:12,400 Compressors. 890 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,400 Compressors and all the ins and outs. 891 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,400 What do the dials do? 892 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,920 What are the... what is all of the different concepts? 893 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,920 What is it? 894 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,440 You gotta stop the needle before it hits a certain PSI. 895 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,440 PSI. 896 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,840 That's really all you need to worry about. 897 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:29,840 Yes. 898 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:30,840 There you go. 899 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:31,840 There you go. 900 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,440 Not the compressor I had in mind, but I'll take it. 901 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:34,440 Okay, fine. 902 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,800 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 903 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:41,520 So just kind of a... kind of a tease, if you will, for what's coming next. 904 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:48,200 I am trying to go through some of the videos out there that kind of dig into the concepts 905 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,440 so I don't sound stupid when I'm talking in that show. 906 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:59,320 But I'm looking forward to that to kind of get into that, see how many shows we have 907 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:04,080 to do consecutively just to properly get through those concepts. 908 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:09,760 Yeah, I don't know, because one leads into another so easily. 909 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,760 Yeah, it's... 910 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:19,440 Same words like compression and limiting and gating and envelopes and I mean, it's gonna 911 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:20,440 get hairy. 912 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,440 It's an onion. 913 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:22,440 Lots of layers. 914 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:23,440 Pretty nerdy. 915 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,040 Yes, lots of nerd dials on that one. 916 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,600 Nerd knobs. 917 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:28,600 So enjoyed it. 918 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,920 John, it's good to get back to this. 919 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,920 Try to get this produced and out as soon as possible. 920 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:44,560 And then start back into the research so I can sound educated in the next show. 921 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,400 You're gonna be great. 922 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,800 All right. 923 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:49,800 See you, man. 924 01:03:49,800 --> 01:04:07,160 See you.