1 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Hey there. 2 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Hey everybody. 3 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Welcome to Beering Gear. 4 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Yeah. 5 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Sorry about my voice. 6 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Although maybe it sounds better. 7 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,000 I don't know. 8 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Yeah. 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000 It's one of those things. 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 You doing okay? 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Doing okay. 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,000 And the sound effects not working. 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Yeah. 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:58,000 We're, we're, we're, I mean, just constantly trying to improve and constantly getting beat 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 back. 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,000 Yeah. 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,000 We'll figure it out. 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,000 What are you going to do? 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Hey, what are you drinking? 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Oh, I actually got what I've been wanting. 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 I got my breakfast out. 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,000 I'm happy. 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,000 What's up founders? 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Yeah. 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Where'd you find it? 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,000 It's fresh. 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000 They finally had it. 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Okay, great. 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,000 I mean, I knew it. 30 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,000 They couldn't not have it for that long. 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Yeah. 32 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 It took them a while, but they've got it. 33 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,000 It's amazing. 34 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Okay. 35 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:35,000 So I got, this is not my normal, but it, I'm, I'm excited because it's local. 36 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 This is true vines. 37 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Okay. 38 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Dragons and dinosaurs. 39 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:44,800 It's a hazy pale ale, which I don't know what that means. 40 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,000 I think probably if you could see it, it would look like cloudy. 41 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 It would look like they didn't filter it. 42 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Yeah. 43 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,000 It looks like dragons and dinosaurs on the outside. 44 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 So all right. 45 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Cheers. 46 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Cheers. 47 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Wow. 48 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 That's like fruity. 49 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,000 There's like a lot of lemon in that. 50 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Really? 51 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Oh, that's exactly what I remember. 52 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,000 This is going to be interesting. 53 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,000 I'm glad you're excited. 54 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 I'm going to have to muscle through this. 55 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Yeah. 56 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,000 There's nothing against it. 57 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,000 I just, it's not mine. 58 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 This is not what I normally drink. 59 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Yeah. 60 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,000 This is a double chocolate coffee, oat milk. 61 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,000 It is good. 62 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Nice. 63 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Very, very nice. 64 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,000 The stout is definitely the way to go. 65 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Hey, I wanted to talk since we've been, since we've been doing a podcasting stuff for, for 66 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 a little bit here, I wanted to talk some audio because I actually got to experience something 67 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,000 pretty fun. 68 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,000 We went to, you're right. 69 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:59,000 We went to, we went to a conference in Chicago and that was fun just because it was in Chicago. 70 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 It was actually my first deep dish pizza. 71 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Not deep dish, but Chicago style pizza. 72 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Where'd you get it from? 73 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,000 I didn't know. 74 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Luminati's? 75 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Was it Luminati? 76 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,000 It was something like that. 77 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:17,000 It was like, it was one of the places that people told us to go. 78 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Okay. 79 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 I feel, I feel good about it. 80 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,000 And they were really great. 81 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:27,000 The people that were there, they did it with cornbread crust. 82 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,000 That sound like a thing? 83 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 I don't know that I've had that before. 84 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Okay. 85 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Well, let me tell you what, it was a little bit weird. 86 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 I'm not going to lie to you. 87 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 So probably not Luminati's. 88 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Everybody swore that this was the place to go. 89 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Not everybody, but a lot of people said that this was the place to go. 90 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:51,000 I was near Wheaton and everybody was really nice. 91 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 And like the topping of the pizza was amazing. 92 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 I just couldn't get past the cornbread. 93 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 That was weird. 94 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000 It felt really weird. 95 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Yeah. 96 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,000 I don't know if I've been able to do that. 97 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,000 But we ate and talked and it was, it was a lot of fun. 98 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,000 And then I don't even remember what all we ate there, but while we were in Chicago. 99 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Did you make it to Billy Goats? 100 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 It was a good trip. 101 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,000 No. 102 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,000 That's the burger place from the old Saturday Night Live skit. 103 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Cheeseburger, cheeseburger, cheeseburger. 104 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Cheeseburger, cheeseburger, cheeseburger. 105 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:38,000 But then when I got back, I got to go to the WFX conference in Dallas, which I didn't go to the conference. 106 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,000 I just went to the, oh my gosh, the expo. 107 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,000 My brain, sorry, is like all cloudy right now. 108 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 But we went to the, or I got to go to the expo. 109 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:55,000 And the reason I really wanted to go to the expo, I'd gone to the WFX expo before. 110 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,000 That was like years ago. 111 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,000 I think I was still working for Panko then. 112 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:07,000 But we're actually talking about redoing our sound system in the great room at our church. 113 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:14,000 And so one of the speakers, speakers meaning actual speakers, not like people who come and speak. 114 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:22,000 One of the speaker manufacturers that we were looking at was going to be demoing their stuff at this expo. 115 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 And so I went up there and got to hear them. 116 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:36,000 And I was just honestly expecting there to be, you know, a room that had different systems in there because they were calling it this round robin. 117 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,000 And I wasn't really expecting much out of that just, you know, to be able to hear them. 118 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 But they had this whole thing set up. 119 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,000 And I'm telling you, this is the way to demo speakers. 120 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,000 I don't know if this is normal because I haven't done it before. 121 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:59,000 But I would not be surprised if this is like this is what everybody does because there were like six or seven manufacturers. 122 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,000 And they had like a small system and then they had like a line array system. 123 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:20,000 And so what they did was they would they went through the small systems first and they would like the person would talk for a second and they would play the same music on each speaker system. 124 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Talk like intro what they were showing and then they would play the system and then they would move to the next person and they would play the system. 125 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:35,000 And I was like, well, that's cool. Like this is more what I was expecting. Like this is an explanation of it. And this is what it sounds like. 126 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,000 And then, you know, it just keeps going around the room like that. 127 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,000 But then, like, I was like, OK, well, then they'll move on to their big systems. 128 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Like they're like, no, we're going to do this two more times. I think they did it at least two more times. 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:57,000 They picked a different song and they played them and they just reminded you in between what the speakers were. 130 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:04,000 But then they like they would play them almost back to back so you could really hear like the same song through all the speakers. 131 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,000 They played like three or four different songs. 132 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Like one per round. And so you were hearing the exact same section over and over and over again in all these different speakers. 133 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:23,000 And it was amazing. So they did that with the small speaker set up and then they did it with the big speaker set up. 134 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:33,000 And I was like. Number one. In the like their premier speaker setups, there was it was really hard to tell a huge difference between them. 135 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:39,000 There were some like, well, that coloring, you know, this this speaker system sounds warmer. 136 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:46,000 The speaker system is definitely got a very crisp high end. 137 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:53,000 We'll say that like you could hear things like that, but they were all so high quality. 138 00:07:53,000 --> 00:08:02,000 It's definitely like it wasn't anything that you wouldn't be able to like tune any of these to sound the way that you wanted them to. 139 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:12,000 And then they had this microphone in the middle of the room and they were showing you the SPL and everything on the side and while they were going through. 140 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:18,000 So you could you could be taking a lot a copious amount of notes on speaker systems. 141 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,000 And I was like. Man, I'll never go back. That was I mean, I'll go back. 142 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:32,000 You know what I mean? Yeah, that's the way to because, you know, you go to a music store or something and try to listen or even go to like. 143 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:40,000 You know, a lot of times you'll have a an installer or manufacturer say, well, we've got we've put our speakers in this room. 144 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:48,000 You can go listen to them. And it's like, yes, if I go to a room that has these speakers in it, that's installed. 145 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,000 I can hear. What a. 146 00:08:52,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Like. What best case scenario they sound like, hopefully, I mean, hopefully if they've put the speakers in and they've tuned everything with the speakers to the room and they've done everything that they're supposed to. 147 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:10,000 When you go into an installation that has these speakers, you should hear them at their best. 148 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:18,000 And so that's great. Like to be able to go to like another sanctuary or something and be able to hear what the speakers sound like is awesome. 149 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,000 But to hear them all back to back in big rooms, I got to go listen to another. 150 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:34,000 There was another manufacturer who wasn't in around Robin, but had their own like they were giving demos of like their whole product line. 151 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,000 And so they were in a room by themselves and it was not a big room. 152 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:46,000 And I said, like, they turned on their speakers at one point and it was like, it was a pretty big system for us to be sitting in that small room. 153 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:51,000 And I was like, like, I. I don't want to. 154 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,000 I'm not trying to make everybody feel awkward about it, but like that was terrible. 155 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Like that was not mixed for, you know, six of us sitting in this small room that was like trying to blow our heads off. 156 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Anyway, like there was a lot of really cool. 157 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Different things that they were at the expo is kind of fun. 158 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:21,000 I'm just in general because. I don't know if you've ever been to WFX. I have not. Probably not. No. 159 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:30,000 But it's it's like the worship facilities expo, I think is why it's WFX. 160 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:43,000 And it's so it's like everything from seats like chairs, manufacturers of chairs and. 161 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Like safety team stuff like walkie talkies and things like that and those type of camera systems all the way over to like. 162 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Big production type things. There was actually a booth in the far corner that I sent a picture to Colson. 163 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,000 My boss and it was. 164 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 They had this rig for like. 165 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Putting somebody in like a bungee system and being able to like lift them up and things like that. And I was like. 166 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:19,000 I mean, you want to try this for Christmas? 167 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Like a Preston Wood situation here where. Yeah. 168 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:33,000 So in the speakers that you were listening to, what were some of the brands that they had on display? 169 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 So they had. 170 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:45,000 By amp was one of the really good ones that I didn't. I don't know much about by amp, but they sounded really good in a box. 171 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 T. 172 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 It's like TCM or. 173 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,000 I can't remember what that one knows just T.W. T.W. audio. 174 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,000 R.C.F. 175 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:07,000 There's a German name. I can't remember. 176 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:13,000 That comment like I had all of the if we if we had recorded this a week ago, I would have had. 177 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:22,000 All of them. Yeah, off the top of my head, but there were some really good ones and I was really surprised at the. 178 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Like some of them were doing it with really small speakers, which I was T.W. was one of the ones there, their speaker system that they brought out. I was like. 179 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,000 That those are little bitty arrays and they sounded great. 180 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Like it didn't sound like little speakers. So. 181 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Yeah, the last few that we put in a line array have been R.C.F. 182 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Yeah, we've been really happy. 183 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:53,000 They've. Yeah, they've they've become very popular lately. They're Italian made or Italian designed. 184 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:58,000 I don't know if they're Italian made anymore. They started off Italian made. 185 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:07,000 It was really funny. I was expecting the guy because they said that I was expecting the guy to sound Italian and he did not sound Italian. 186 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,000 He was he was from Texas, I think. 187 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Looking for that. It's a me, Mario. It's a me, Mario. 188 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:27,000 But it's a lot of fun to be able to do that. And honestly, like I've it's been a while since I was really particular about speakers. 189 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:36,000 And so getting back and being able to listen that I really wish that we could have had more people go with me because that was just one of those really busy. 190 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:42,000 It was a week after we got back from Chicago. Yeah. Who wants to be gone again at that point? 191 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Does it happen about the same time every year? 192 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Yeah, it is about the same time every year. And it's been in Dallas, I feel like pretty regularly. 193 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:59,000 But next year, it's going to be in Tennessee. Bummer. So bummer. 194 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:06,000 I'm sitting there going, a year from now, I need to get Jason and Jacob and we can go up there. 195 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:14,000 And if you were available, we could all kind of write up and check it out. Now we've got to figure out how to get to Tennessee. 196 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Yeah, right. We'll just have to write up to Tennessee. No big deal. 197 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Yeah, we're going to go scope out a new possible camp property. 198 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,000 And while we're there. Far away from your camp property. 199 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Maybe we fly to the other camp property and then we go. Yeah, short drive up something like that. 200 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:43,000 But we so we spent that week that week. It was like three days in Chicago at this worship innovators conference. 201 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,000 And there was a lot of software at that one. 202 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:55,000 But there were still quite a few like talking about hardware and talking about how to maximize things and different. 203 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:02,000 I actually there was one guy who's pretty well known as a. 204 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Audio technician and he is I got to talk to him a little bit about my king because I don't know if like. 205 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Other guys that are audio technicians like when you're my king, like a drum set in a room. 206 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:27,000 You kind of get that's a room that's not huge. We've got like a 800 person room. 207 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:32,000 I know that like fire code is more than that. It's like a thousand. 208 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:38,000 But we've got big chairs. So the most we can get in is like 800. 209 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:44,000 But it. The drum set is. 210 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Sounds really big. Yeah, it's anyway that problem that I think a lot of people have the drums sound bigger than the room. 211 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:58,000 And the drummers don't want to play softer. But I was talking to him about like. 212 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Because at one point he made a comment about not doing a shield and I was like, I hear it like I've heard that like whatever. 213 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:16,000 And he was like, I mean, you might as well put him in that little apartment building that they build on stages now for drums drummers. 214 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Which I totally we've talked about whether or not to do that. 215 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,000 But he was like a shield was the worst thing that you can do. 216 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,000 And I was like, well, crap, I've been doing that for a while. 217 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:33,000 And he was saying like you you have reflection immediately off the drums. 218 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,000 And you've got the mic set up a certain distance from the drums. 219 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,000 And so you're hearing. 220 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:51,000 At best phase cancellation at worst, you're hearing just a muddying of everything. 221 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:59,000 And so like just being real particular about which mics you're using and everything, how you're directing them. 222 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:07,000 And he was like, if you if you can't do a full enclosure, you need to be doing baffles instead of. 223 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:20,000 A full shield and you need to be pointing them off the stage or angling them so that the sound reflects off of the stage as opposed to back into the whatever. 224 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 And I didn't have the heart to tell him. 225 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Everywhere that I can reflect the drums in our room is reflecting right back into the drum pretty much. 226 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Yes. 227 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:37,000 We just got to figure out our system at some point. 228 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,000 But it's exciting to be like talking about. 229 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,000 I know that we don't. 230 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,000 All all gear is expensive. 231 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:52,000 There are very few times that you're looking at a piece of gear and like, oh, it's only that much money. 232 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Most of the time it's like, oh, that'd be really nice if we could. 233 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Oh, hey, yeah. 234 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Thousands of dollars. 235 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 I'll probably not ever own that. 236 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,000 Like your ribbon mic from last show. 237 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Oh, my gosh. 238 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:11,000 I would love to be able to spend fifteen hundred dollars on a ribbon mic. 239 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:22,000 But that was one of the things like this guy was so excited about these ribbon mics because of, you know, ribbon mics respond differently. 240 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,000 I feel like they're a little bit warmer. 241 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:33,000 I mean, somebody said something like, well, a ribbon mic records the way that your ear. 242 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Listen, like, that's that's a weird thing to say, not sure that I totally understand what they're talking about. 243 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:52,000 But they were saying that because it records that way, then it's more natural here listening to it whenever you listen to it back. 244 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:58,000 But I mean, there's so much like the veil on that has been totally lifted for me. 245 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:12,000 I know when before I was at all involved in mechanics, stuff with cars like I used to know that there was an engine under there, but it might as well have been like little guys with like little hamsters on wheels. 246 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Yes. And little guys banging away at stuff to make things work because I had no idea what what happened inside of the engine. 247 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:39,000 And now, like with sound technician, like audio engineering stuff like there's there's so much going on, like there's so many factors involved with getting tone or getting certain sound out of whatever you're using. 248 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Yep. We're learning like I'm learning. 249 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:55,000 It's it's it's impressive that we make any of it work. So I definitely I love hearing from guys that have been doing it a lot longer than me, though. 250 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:02,000 And that's that's a lot of what that conference was. 251 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Okay, that sounds like it was a lot of fun. 252 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:15,000 That was a lot of fun. And it was in Chicago. So, I mean, can't argue with that. 253 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Yeah, it's not bad to get a trip to Chicago every now and then. 254 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,000 No. 255 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000 What? 256 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:31,000 You said when we were talking before that somebody sent us a. 257 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Yeah, we've got some booths. 258 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,000 You want to you want to read the boosts? 259 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Yeah. Yeah, I wish the the jingle would work. 260 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,000 I'm sorry. 261 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:52,000 What y'all were supposed to hear right now is something that said something to the effect of boost to gram sound booth, but it had a little more emphasis in the words. 262 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,000 So yeah, this is we have to to boost. 263 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:05,000 Yes. So these are our first that have come in beyond the feel good one that I did just for a test. 264 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Yeah. So the first of well, actually, I guess I need to back up. I need to explain some of this in boost to grams or these boosts. 265 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,000 There's a lot of numerology that goes on. 266 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:25,000 So you don't just randomly just send you. Well, you can just pick a random value and send it. And there you go. 267 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:31,000 But the beauty of the system is you can play around with the numbers and do just about anything that you want. 268 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,000 There can be different meanings behind it. 269 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,000 So these two particular boosts have numerology to them. 270 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:43,000 And I will try to explain because it comes from the no agenda podcast. 271 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:48,000 So and those of us that don't know just don't know. Yeah, we all are going to learn. 272 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 We're all going along for the ride. Exactly. 273 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:58,000 So that's that's what's kind of fun is, you know, you can send it and you get to pick the numerology. 274 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,000 And if it means something to you, include it in the boost. 275 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:08,000 So we know what it means. Nice. So so this first one was two thousand two hundred and twenty two sets. 276 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,000 That is referred to as a row of ducks. 277 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,000 A row of because it looks like that because it looks like ducks. Yes. 278 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:21,000 So two, two, two, two, a row of ducks and the message. 279 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,000 You're going to to love this one, John. 280 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Have a row of ducks so that John can get a beer. 281 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Well, probably not enough for a beer. T foul. I love it. That's perfect. 282 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Yeah. So that's from the beer. Yeah. Jason Kord. 283 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,000 That was for you having your red solo cup. There you go. 284 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:48,000 And then the second one is one thousand one hundred and eleven. 285 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,000 You could call that a row of sticks. 286 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,000 You could call because it's one you could call that making it rain. 287 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:00,000 So sky's the limit on how you want to go with it. 288 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,000 And so this one was actually referencing something that we discussed in the last episode. 289 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,000 The message is just simply nerd knobs. 290 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,000 So if you remember in the last show, I was explaining, I had never heard that before 291 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,000 about the idea of like how nerdy you want to be. Turn the knob up and down. 292 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Turn the nerd knob. Yes. 293 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:24,000 So he just simply sent in the message. Nerd knobs. Both of those. 294 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,000 You got to go ahead. You got to own your nerd hood. 295 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Exactly. One of my professors. 296 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,000 OK, so this is really nerdy. 297 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,000 My minor in college was music because I started as a music major. 298 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:47,000 And anyway, I had a music minor by the end of my first semester or by the first year. 299 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,000 I had to go a full year as a music major to get a music minor. 300 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000 But that's how intense it is. 301 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:59,000 So one of my professors, though, this is my music history professor. 302 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,000 OK, she was one of my favorites. She was amazing. 303 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,000 And she would always say, you know, we're all nerds. 304 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000 You got to own your nerd hood. 305 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Like the fact that you are nerdy about this does not make you not. 306 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 It's not something that you should be ashamed of. 307 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:20,000 Like you've got to own that. So own that knob. Absolutely. 308 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,000 Absolutely. So I do want to say before we get away from that, 309 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,000 that both of these are from our friend, Jason Court. 310 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,000 They're both from Jason. They're both from Jason. Yeah. 311 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Thanks, Jason. Yeah. Thank you, Jason. Appreciate it. 312 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Good, good dude. Oh, yeah. 313 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,000 Jason. OK, so every job that I left at Pine Cove, 314 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:44,000 like whenever I would move on from something at Pine Cove, 315 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,000 I left it in more capable hands. 316 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 And Jason was the second of those. 317 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,000 Micah McHugh was the first of those. 318 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,000 When I left my job in maintenance, Micah took over and it was like, 319 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 man, I'm glad John left. 320 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,000 It was the same thing with Jason. Like I left and Jason took over doing 321 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:06,000 AV stuff and it's just, I mean, it's so nice over there now. 322 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Yeah. Yeah. We were very fortunate to find them when we did. 323 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 And now it's continued at the church. 324 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Yes. Oh, shoot. Anyway. Anyway. Yeah. 325 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:25,000 So nothing like being replaced to make you feel obsolete. 326 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Yes. So if he's listening, you know, I send another boost. 327 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,000 And we'll keep the conversation going. Yeah. Thanks, brother. 328 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Yeah. Anybody who's listening, go ahead and send a boost. Yeah. 329 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,000 You can send us anything you want in the message. 330 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Yeah, I'm I am. 331 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Intrigued by this new level of podcasting that is available to us like it does it, you know, to me, I think I've always been, even though. 332 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:08,000 You know, technology is awesome and I've been trying to understand and further myself in technology. 333 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,000 As long as I can remember. 334 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:18,000 The fact that they're like there's such a specific. 335 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:28,000 The everything is gaining so fast that there can be such amazing growth in such a specific area is like that's intense. 336 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Yeah, there there's an amazing group of guys behind the development that's happening. 337 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:44,000 You've got the apples and the spotifies of the world who are just kind of pulling the Microsoft and just kind of just sitting back and going, we're not worried about it. 338 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,000 We got this. And it's all just going to pass them by. 339 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:58,000 Yeah, I mean, I think probably especially because of the attitude that these guys have had that so like we don't we don't have to own this to make it better. 340 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:04,000 And everything Apple and all these other companies that are like that. 341 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,000 I have an iPhone. I'm not trying to like pretend like I'm something that I'm not here. 342 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000 I'm doing this on a Mac computer. 343 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:22,000 But their mentality has always been, you know, this scarcity, like we, we have to own it or we don't really want to spend time on it. 344 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:33,000 And it's like, you don't like that's not how a community works. Like you got to learn how to not just build a community around the people that you can own everything that they do. 345 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Correct. And they just don't seem to understand the, the fact that RSS is really designed to be open. 346 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,000 It's not it's not designed for anybody to own it. 347 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Well, Steve Jobs didn't like anything open. He wanted to be able to control everything because he wanted it to be great. And if you make it open, there's a risk of it not being great. 348 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:02,000 But I think that I think the benefits outweigh them negatives there. 349 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,000 I agree. 350 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Got to learn how to give everybody space to create. 351 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Yeah. 352 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Yep. So hopefully the podcast hosting companies out there stay on this train. 353 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000 Yeah. 354 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Man, that was a big sneeze. 355 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Good save. 356 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 So yeah, hopefully they'll stay with it. 357 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,000 And all these guys will continue this development. 358 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,000 And again, it's a it's a community of people. It's not any one person. 359 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:44,000 I mean, you do obviously you've got Adam Curry and Dave Jones podcasting 2.0 that are kind of the figureheads of it, so to speak. 360 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:54,000 But it's a huge group of people that are that are putting this thing together and making it a reality. 361 00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:02,000 I mean, oh yeah, me too. Absolutely. Let's have fun with it. Yeah. 362 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000 My voice is about to go. 363 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:12,000 OK, we can start wrapping it up real quick. Talk to you about this mic before we go. 364 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Oh yeah. Yeah. Mike. Yeah. I'm I tonight I'm using the Lulit LCT 440 Pure. 365 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:25,000 I have LCT 440 Pure 440 Pure large diaphragm. 366 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,000 I have absolutely fallen in love with this mic. 367 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Unfortunately, you all are probably hearing the network equipment in the room because of it. 368 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:46,000 But the sound reproduction, the quality, the. 369 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,000 The tones that I'm able to hear. Yeah. 370 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,000 From it that I don't get from my electric voice, not that my electric voice is bad. 371 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:01,000 It's a it's an amazing mic, but it's just that difference between dynamic and condenser. 372 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Yeah, your EV is a dynamic. Yeah. 373 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:12,000 This is a condenser. Yeah. Now it's one of the hotter dynamics because of the neodymium magnet. 374 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Right. But I mean, condensers are just better for tonal reproduction. 375 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Listen, buddy, you say better. I say tomato. 376 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,000 Well, this is one of those. If you remember the last show, I said, hey, I'm the guitar center. 377 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:37,000 People may get tired of me. I had intended to just use this and send it back. 378 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,000 But I've absolutely fallen in love with it and it's not going. It's not going. 379 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Well, I'm telling you, like if you're going to fall in love with a micro condenser microphone 380 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:53,000 that sounds that good for two eighty nine on the water, that's not bad. No, no, no. 381 00:30:53,000 --> 00:31:01,000 As as any of the guys listening that, you know, are geared nuts like two eighty nine for a high quality microphone is nothing. 382 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Yeah. And I know you all can't see the video, but John can. 383 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:11,000 Everything you see here, it came with it came with the shock mount. It came with the pop filter. 384 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,000 Yeah. All of it. You don't have the windscreen on it. It comes with the windscreen. 385 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:21,000 I have to if I can do this without making too much noise. 386 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Yeah, there's the pop filter. Yeah, there's the pop filter right there with their little logos. 387 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:34,000 You can see it. It's pretty looking. Yep. I love that it just kind of slides, slides on magnetically catches. 388 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:41,000 Yeah, it did. Also, yeah, it's magnet. How do they work? They work pretty well. 389 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:49,000 Yeah, you did also come with the foam windscreen, but I really like I like the look of this. 390 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Oh, yeah. You don't need a foam windscreen if you're not, you know, breathing real heavy on it or something like that. 391 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,000 Correct. Or out in the wind. Correct. 392 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:05,000 So I'm I'm two for two on a product that I am endorsing people to go buy. Nice. 393 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:12,000 I'm sure eventually we'll find one and be like, oh, don't don't do that. Don't don't buy that. Yeah. 394 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:19,000 Yeah, I think it sounds good. Yep. I've just got to work on. 395 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Do I stay in here or do I need to find another room in the house to try to avoid some of this background noise? 396 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,000 If I'm going to stay on this mic or go back to the US is more of a thing now. Yeah. 397 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:39,000 Yeah, we need to get you some the the bedding, like the whatever you call it. 398 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:46,000 The egg, egg, great, great. Yeah. I try to put a barrier between me and the gear behind me. 399 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Wrap yourself in it. Yeah. Little cocoon over the mic. 400 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,000 So, all right, man, well, let's get you out of here so you can get your rest your voice. 401 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Hope you get to feeling better, man. Thanks, brother. All right. 402 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Be in here with you as always. All right. Sounds good. 403 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:19,000 See you.