1 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:39,760 Hey there. Hey everybody. Welcome beer and gear. I got to make a confession to you, Chris. 2 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:46,600 Okay. I got, I got real busy today and you know, I'm, I'm actually recording this episode 3 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:55,580 from my end from work and I didn't get a chance to get a beer, but I'm drinking my Coke in 4 00:00:55,580 --> 00:00:59,600 a red solo cup. That's gotta count for something. Sure. Nice. Sure. 5 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:07,320 It's not what I wanted. I was running low on time, so I just had to go to Walmart and go with what 6 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:14,720 they had. Hey man, I'll take a Shiner. Yeah. Shiner's not bad. I like a little bit darker, 7 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:25,920 but Shiner's not bad. Yeah. Definitely on the darker end of the not technically dark beers. 8 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:37,520 I don't know how you, it's a dark brown anyway, dark brown. Man, that last episode was like 9 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:43,640 drinking from a fire hydrant. Just a little bit. Yes it was. I mean that, that was, that was a lot. 10 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:54,880 And, and honestly, as I've, I've podcasted a few times, I've done different different recordings 11 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:04,320 and had different, we'll call them shows with the air quotes and things like that. But I, I was not 12 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:12,720 aware of some of that history at all. And, and I'm not aware of where some of it was going. So this 13 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:19,680 is, this is really exciting to me to be learning at the same time. Good. Good. Yeah. I hope everybody 14 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:26,080 else who listened was able to follow along. Probably should have pointed people to the podcasting 2.0 15 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:32,640 site if they had any other questions. Obviously, if you have any questions and you want to 16 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,920 reach out to us, you can always send the Boostergram if you've got a, 17 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:41,600 an app that will allow you to do that. Yeah. So I'd be, I would be all about that. 18 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,920 And we checked before we started recording this one. Yes, we did. You know, 19 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:52,000 no, yes, they don't feel like you sent something you did not. 20 00:02:53,760 --> 00:03:00,800 Yes. It's still just my test one to make you kind of feel, feel some warm and fuzzies. 21 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:09,040 There you go. So yeah, there was a ton in there. So I mean, John, and before we kind of get back 22 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:18,160 into it, if, is there any thing from that that you wanted to go back over, talk about questions or? 23 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:27,920 I mean, some of the, like, just, just the fact that we can, we can now, like, I don't think we 24 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:33,920 need to go back over it, but like, what really intrigued me in the midst of it, and even continued 25 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:44,160 to over there, trying to think about everything afterward, is that like sharing and being able to 26 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:52,880 give value for things, you know, as, as you see them, as you're consuming them and like that, 27 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:02,080 that being able to value things from a consumer standpoint, you think that you are all the time, 28 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:09,440 like, I don't know, I think that I'm, I'm showing value for something whenever I buy it, or whenever 29 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,320 I listen to it and everything like that. And the amount of that goes towards the person who actually 30 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:19,600 created it is very little. So yes, I mean, you're really hitting on what is reminds me of the 31 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,640 Hollywood strike right now. Well, thankfully that one's wrapped up, but just in time for now, 32 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:30,080 for the medical strike, apparently out there in California. So they traded one for the other. 33 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Yeah. So, but yeah, you're really kind of hitting on the, the beauty of value for value. You know, 34 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:48,320 we've all been conditioned, I guess the right way to say it, 99 cents for a song, maybe 10 to 15, 35 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:57,120 as much as $20 for an, I say album, I guess that dates me. And you thought, well, I've done a lot 36 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,400 for this artist. And if you went and saw him in concert, you know, that's, they probably got more 37 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:08,720 money from that than they did from you actually buying an album or a track. But just the fact 38 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:16,800 that that price is being set and it doesn't enable you to show the musician, the podcaster. 39 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,520 Hopefully eventually we're going to see audio book. And even as far as into documentaries, 40 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,640 movies and TV shows that could leverage this. But when that, when you have that set price, 41 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:34,160 then it doesn't enable you to show them the value that you're getting from what they're doing. 42 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:39,760 But with value for value, you can do that. If I, if I listen and I think I got 43 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:46,720 a dollars worth of value from it, I can send that. If I feel like I got a hundred dollars worth of 44 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:52,480 value, I can send that too. There, there's really no, there's no limit. You know, there's a couple 45 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:57,760 of podcasts that I listened to that are really built on value for value. Now granted they've 46 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:04,240 been at it for 16, 17 years and they've built this into what it is, but every now and then you'll see 47 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:11,280 people drop significant money. I mean, people consistently are sending in between 200 to $300 48 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,840 because they want to be classified as a executive producer or associate executive producer of the 49 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:25,280 podcast. There are people who drop a thousand dollars in one, in one shot to be what's called 50 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:30,880 an instant night. Um, I've, there's, there's been more than that. That's been dropped at one time, 51 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,640 but it really just opened that up for you to show them the value that you're, 52 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:45,200 you're getting from whatever the product is. So I don't expect somebody to send us a thousand dollars, 53 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:54,160 but if you want to go ahead. So, uh, with that said, I guess we'll just kind of pick up where 54 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,680 we left off. I know we don't have a whole lot to talk about on the beer, like we normally would, 55 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:07,760 but cheers to you, sir. So if I remember correctly, kind of where we left off, 56 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:13,520 we just kind of wrapped up what's referred to as the tags, which is kind of the new additions that 57 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:23,280 was being added, um, in far as to, to extend RSS. And we kind of hit on value for value pretty good, 58 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:30,160 but what we didn't talk about is the underlying payment structure. So hopefully I don't go 59 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:37,360 too far, um, in the nerd area recently heard it referred to as the nerd dial. You can crank up 60 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:43,120 the dial as depending on how nerdy you want to get, uh, that was new to me. Uh, but I kind of liked 61 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,080 it. So I think I'm going to steal it. So I'll try not to crank the nerd dial up too high. Uh, 62 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,960 but in terms of the value being transferred, what they opted to do for now is it's using 63 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:00,960 the Bitcoin lightning network. Uh, now the beauty of what they did is they've actually not just 64 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:08,320 locked it in to Bitcoin or lightning. It's structured in such a way that if some other 65 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:15,440 value method shows up, you can just pull this out, plug the new one in, you get a both, 66 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:22,080 you could add additional. So it's not like you're absolutely rigidly locked in. All you can do is 67 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:27,840 lightning. So I love the fact that they, they left it open. Um, it's kind of a lot of what they're 68 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:33,840 doing. And so when you're in the lightning world, you'll have a wallet very similar to having a 69 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:40,480 Bitcoin wallet, except this is a lightning wallet. Um, lightning is really designed around what they 70 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:47,760 call micro transactions. Um, so that could be basically basically just you sending a phone 71 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:55,120 of a Bitcoin. So Bitcoin is broken down in Satoshi's. So like the test that I did, 72 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:03,120 I sent 235 Satoshi's just to test out that booster gram. So you have all these micro 73 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,440 transactions that are going on. And what's interesting, and I think this is where the 74 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:13,200 government gets a little ruffled is if you never convert the money to the Bitcoin, 75 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:19,040 the government gets a little ruffled is if you never convert that back out to dollars, 76 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:27,440 there's no, there's no taxes as right now. It's always when you convert the Bitcoin back out 77 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:33,520 to us dollars. That's when uncle Sam goes, Oh, Hey, that's a taxable transaction. We want our 78 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,720 piece of that pie. But if you keep it in the lightning network, it's not getting out. Um, 79 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,280 now eventually it's probably going to come out because you're going to want to 80 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:47,360 cash that out if you've got a, you've got a fair amount. But the lightning network works very similar 81 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:53,200 to Bitcoin. There are multiple nodes, which a node is basically a computer running the Bitcoin 82 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:59,920 lightning, um, node software. Uh, the same thing, you have the more nodes you have, the more reliable 83 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:05,920 it is, the harder it is for somebody to try to inject a fake transaction. Especially if you want 84 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,400 to try to say, Hey, I hadn't already made this transaction. You didn't pay up all those other 85 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:15,680 nodes. Can look at that and they can say, no, that's an invalid transaction gets kicked out. 86 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:23,280 So there's, um, all those nodes kind of build in that, um, security and are designed to prevent 87 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:33,440 somebody from messing around in trying to inject a bogus transactions. Um, recently Twitter, I 88 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:42,000 guess now it's X, um, thanks to Elon, um, recently Twitter announced that they are working on accepting 89 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:48,080 Bitcoin to do those micro transactions. We'll see what happens with that. That'll be interesting 90 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:56,400 to see where they go with it. Um, I'm, I'm for anybody that wants to take, take that or add that 91 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:02,000 on. Um, to me that that's only going to be a win. Although there are a lot of people out there that 92 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,840 think Elon just wants to kind of become your new bank. So I don't really think that it matters 93 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:13,920 unless, unless, uh, unless he doesn't have anything to back it up. Correct. I mean, Elon is the 94 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:21,200 master of playing the government money angle and anything that he does. He knows where he can get 95 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:26,800 free money and he knows how to exploit it. I mean, that's what he's done with Tesla. That's what 96 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:33,200 he's done with SpaceX. And there's no doubt in my mind. That's what he's going to do with Twitter 97 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:41,200 X. Um, you know, financial is just one more thing. You know, he, he was in with the original PayPal, 98 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:51,440 so he has some background on being your financial people. So it's not like it's some new, um, new 99 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:57,200 endeavor. So it'll be really interesting where he goes with that and what he's trying to push with, 100 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:04,560 um, proving your identity. Um, so even them eventually becoming an identity platform on top 101 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:10,080 of your financial platform. Yeah, that part would be, um, interesting to me because I was thinking 102 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:19,040 about, it's funny. I went to the airport this weekend and, uh, um, I, this came up in my brain 103 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:27,200 when you were talking about, um, the strikes, um, because there was a pilot that went by that had a 104 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:33,440 ready to strike like tag on his suitcase. I was like, Oh no, hopefully he's not my pilot. Yeah. 105 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:42,560 Um, but, um, but I actually, on my way, we went from Dallas up to Chicago and then back, um, 106 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:54,560 back, um, Sunday and then Tuesday. And I forgot my ID. Oh, and I was like, uh, uh, oh, I've never 107 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:58,960 tried to do this. We called and they were like, yeah, as long as you got two forms of identification, 108 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:06,160 we're just going to have to do like an extended, um, whatever they call it, not search, um, 109 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:14,480 um, screening, screening. Yeah. Yeah. And so they, like, they, they wanted everything that I had, 110 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:23,040 man, they, they, they swabbed my computer and, and all of the pockets in my laptop bag and all of 111 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:29,840 that. It was invasive. Um, but you know, it could have been worse. And somebody was like, I mean, 112 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,800 were they, were they really like upset with you? And I was like, I could tell they were irritated, 113 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:41,920 but I was like set on like, I'm going to be nice because they're helping me. And there's no, like, 114 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,720 I could see them saying that I can't fly. I don't have an ID. Why, why did I show up to the airport 115 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,800 without an ID? Correct. You talked about whatever you want to do right now, as long as you let me 116 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:58,720 on the plane. Yeah. You talk about them being, um, extended in search and intrusive, um, made me 117 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,840 envision them walking up to you, putting the gloves on and letting the glove pop on their hand. And 118 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:13,040 just the visual that that would give like, Oh, can I drive? I mean, when they said like, uh, you know, 119 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,680 whatever more involves screening, I was like, like a pat down, like, what are we talking? They, 120 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:23,120 they meant my stuff. Like I went through the normal, uh, scanner that they do, but they meant 121 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:28,400 my stuff was going to be screened more, which I told, I mean, that makes sense. Um, but he did pat 122 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:36,080 down my hat. He was like, let me see your hat. And then he had to do the whatever on it. But anyway, 123 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:41,520 like it would have been really nice. I had them, I had my wife send me a picture of my ID, 124 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,440 but it would have been really nice if there was some sort of digital way to say, no, this really 125 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:53,280 is me. Um, it was really, really a bummer too, cause I was TSA pre-checked and didn't get to use 126 00:14:53,280 --> 00:15:03,920 that. Yeah. Um, the digital idea is interesting. Um, the little kid and hearing stuff as a Southern 127 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,800 Baptist hears that and goes, Oh, mark of the beast, mark of the beast. You can't do that. Don't do 128 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:14,720 that. Um, it's probably not going to be it be something completely different. Who knows? Uh, 129 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:20,800 but that's, yeah. I mean, the digital idea is interesting. Um, it's obviously where we're going. 130 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:28,320 Um, fun, cool, scary, all at the same time. Yeah. I do like the idea of being able to prove that I'm 131 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:36,960 me correct in a digital space as well as a, um, physical one. Correct. And I, anyway, you were 132 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:42,240 talking about nodes. Nodes. Yeah. So the nodes are important. Um, the more nodes, the more robust, 133 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:50,320 uh, the more nodes, the potential pass for passing the Satoshi's, uh, more nodes means more integrity 134 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:58,080 in the transactions, uh, makes it harder to, um, inject bogus transactions into the blockchain. 135 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:08,240 So all the same concepts of Bitcoin, except you're just working with fractions of a Bitcoin. I'm, 136 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,560 uh, I'm trying to, I think it's like a hundred million Satoshi's is a Bitcoin. 137 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,520 There's any Bitcoiners out there. They'll let me know I'm wrong. 138 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,600 Yeah, for sure. I mean, I, yeah. Um, that's, that's quite a, 139 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,520 yes, quite a, I was thinking like cents on the dollar. That's not what that is. 140 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:35,440 No, no, no, no, no. No. Each Satoshi is a fraction of a penny. Even at its, uh, peak when it's, 141 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:43,760 it was in $60,000 a Satoshi, I don't think it even got near being equal to one penny. 142 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:51,680 So you really, when they say micro transaction, they really mean micro transactions. And quick 143 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,320 side note, I'm trying to learn. This is my first one with the camera and I don't know whether to 144 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:02,720 look at the camera or to look at the monitor. This is driving me crazy. I'll get it figured out. 145 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:09,280 This is driving me crazy. I'll get it figured out. I mean, either, either way, I'm looking at your 146 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:15,680 face most of the time. So it just helps me that my camera is closer to your face than your camera. 147 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,880 Yeah. I feel like I'm looking at you, but when I see myself over here, 148 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:24,480 it looks like I'm looking down at the ground. So you're fine. Okay. So yeah. So nodes are a 149 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:31,040 good thing. Uh, like I said, you can run your own. You don't have to, there's a ton of them out there. 150 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:38,000 There's always more people adding, um, it's fun to play around, uh, and to learn the concepts. 151 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:45,120 But when you get into having to, um, get liquidation as far as funds into the channels, 152 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:52,160 maintain those channels, maintain the liquidation. It can be a monster to manage on your own. 153 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:59,200 And that's why you should look at, if you just get, just get you a wallet, whether it's you, 154 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:04,480 you, you run it yourself or it's managed by somebody, or it's even baked into your, 155 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:09,280 your podcast app. That's the way to go for the vast majority of people keeps it simple. 156 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:16,400 And you don't have to get crank that, that nerd dial, unless you just want to go down that rabbit hole. 157 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,000 Mine goes up to 11. It goes up to 11. 158 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,240 So it's, it's better than the other ones because they only go up to 10. 159 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,520 To 10. Yes. This one goes up to 11. 160 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:37,920 So, uh, but again, the other thing that I know I mentioned that what I love about it is they, 161 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,680 they didn't just hitch everything to lightning for this, which was smart. 162 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:47,040 You can, you can bake in anything you want. 163 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:56,720 So I, again, they've really tried to make this whole podcasting 2.0 thing as open as possible. 164 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,160 Um, you know, they, they try to push back on the apples and the Spotify's 165 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,560 and that's not really podcasting. That's, that's something else. 166 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:17,360 And true RSS, open RSS, like we're doing with the show is in this world is what is truly viewed 167 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:26,560 truly viewed as, as genuine podcasting. Um, there, there's no, there's nobody injecting ads. Um, 168 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:33,840 you're, you're not giving your, well, I guess in a couple of cases we are just to get the name out, 169 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,000 but most of the time you're not just saying, here's my show, go monetize it and make money. 170 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,960 And I get nothing. Um, I know a couple of the platforms we've got it on, I'm sure they're 171 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:50,640 doing that. Uh, but you know, right now, no, not as big a deal. You know, this is only episode four. 172 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:56,400 We're just trying to cast the net as big as we can. And also I don't think that ours is making 173 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:02,640 a lot of money for them. No, no, no, no, no. But hopefully, you know, some this catches on, 174 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:10,400 we find our little niche and become, we can build community around the show. Uh, you know, that's 175 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:16,080 kind of, kind of where this is all, all going. Uh, again, I know I'm going to sound like a broken 176 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:23,760 record. This was, this whole thing was kind of pioneered by Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak 16, 177 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:29,360 almost 17 years ago. They started to show, started to develop a community around it. 178 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:37,440 And as they develop that community, the people listening were the advertising who, who got the, 179 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:44,080 the show out there and it's just continued to grow. I mean, even now they, they do their, 180 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:50,320 their own meetups. They have, they have a whole site set up for you to schedule a meetup. 181 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,680 Other people can, can show up and people that have no connection other than the podcast 182 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:02,240 are going to restaurants or going to somebody's house, hanging out, chatting, just having a good 183 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:08,800 time building that community outside of the show. And then that just kind of overflows back into the 184 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,840 show. And so that's what I would love to try to, obviously I don't know if we'll ever get to that 185 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:19,680 level, but just build the community around the show and just run with it and see where it goes. 186 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:27,360 Yeah. And it's not like we don't have, you know, some of that community already here, um, in Tyler 187 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:37,520 with the, we've rub shoulders with a lot of guys, um, in the same areas. So that type of thing is 188 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:44,880 already there. Just going to take word of mouth. Yeah. And we got to make sure we always produce a 189 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:52,960 quality product. Yeah. I can't guarantee that. Yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it. 190 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,520 Everybody has to start somewhere. That's going to depend some on what's in the cup. 191 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:06,160 Yeah. I'll have to come up with a good name since you didn't have a beer. 192 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,960 Learned non non-beer red solo cup. That's what you can call it. The non-alcoholic episode. 193 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:25,520 It's that time I forgot to get a beer. Did you ever listen to, not to 194 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,640 just dash everybody's hopes here with something that doesn't exist anymore. Did you ever listen 195 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,760 to the that time I podcast? No, I'd actually never heard of it until you mentioned in either 196 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:43,120 the previous show or the one before. Yeah. I'm just telling you like that. Colson and, uh, 197 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:49,840 Micah made it and it was, I mean, fantastic. I don't know how many episodes they made, but it was, 198 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,640 it's worth it. If you can find it, it's worth it. Just listen to the ones that they made 199 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,920 and they're hilarious. If it's still out there, I can certainly find it. 200 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,440 Yeah. I mean, sure. Hopefully. I mean, I bought them a 201 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,840 URL, so it's gotta be somewhere, right? Are you still paying for it? 202 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,600 Uh, probably. All right. I was really hoping that they'd come back to it. So, 203 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,960 okay. Well, you know, those things are on, if the URLs out there, maybe somehow, some way the, 204 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:27,920 the files are still out there. Maybe the, um, RSS feed still, still active. 205 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,680 Somewhere I'll take a look at it and I can certainly let you know. 206 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:44,240 Um, Hey, jumping to a piece of gear real quick while you're doing that. Um, the, since I'm sitting 207 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:53,360 here on this sure SM seven B, you told me about the sure SM seven B B while I was out of town 208 00:23:53,360 --> 00:24:00,720 and I looked it up and how has that not happened before now? Yeah. That you would think that they 209 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:08,320 would have seen it. It sounds like early. Some of the press on it is it's 50 years since the original 210 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:14,960 SM seven and they wanted to do something special for the 50th. And so they said, Hey, why don't we 211 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:20,000 just put a cloud lifter basically in the microphone? Why don't we make this thing active since 212 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,520 everybody has to make it active anyway? Yes. Yes. So I've watched some reviews, 213 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:31,440 overall people love it. They love the fact that you can bypass the preamp and it literally just 214 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:39,440 goes back to being an SM seven B. Um, I think the general, uh, stands from people. If you already 215 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:45,840 have an SM seven B, don't replace it. It's not worth it. If you don't have one and that's where 216 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:53,840 you want to go, then get the seven DB and it's as good as having, give you options. Correct. 217 00:24:53,840 --> 00:25:00,000 Correct. Yeah. I mean, you can get plus 18 or plus 28, which is a huge win. 218 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:09,840 It's yeah. I didn't really understand why they would, uh, go for that feature as much, but 219 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:18,640 I guess it makes sense. Um, it's not that hard to, um, add that. What is that? A transistor? 220 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,080 What is that? A transistor? Um, yeah, I'm trying to remember. 221 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:32,800 It's a, a FET most likely. Oh, the J FET. Yeah. The J FET. There you go. 222 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:42,960 Yeah. Lots of clean gain. Lots of cleaning game. Yep. Um, but having that, and then they've still 223 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:49,200 got the shaping. Um, they do. Yes. Which I've really enjoyed because, you know, sometimes you 224 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:58,640 want that low end like I have on this one. Um, and sometimes that's not helpful. Correct. Yeah. 225 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,600 It's nice. You've still got the, the, I guess they technical call it a high pass filter to me. It's 226 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:10,480 a base roll off. Yep. Um, and then you still get the low cut high pass. Yeah. It's all confusing. 227 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:17,360 And then I think you've still got the mid boost for presence. If I remember correctly. 228 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:25,040 It's a high mid, but yeah. Presence. Okay. Yeah. So, um, yeah. Does anybody 229 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:33,360 interested in an SM seven get the seven DB? It's cheaper than buying the $100 more. It is, 230 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:37,280 but it's cheaper than buying the SM seven and then buying the cloud lifter. 231 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:43,360 Yeah. Cause the cloud lifters like 125, 130. Yeah. Something in that range. I mean, 232 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:49,200 you save a little bit. Yeah. But I mean, the, the beauty of it being baked in is you don't have to 233 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,240 connect that cloud lifter in the middle. You don't have to have the extra X XLR. You don't 234 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,680 have to find some way to place to secure the cloud lifters. There's plenty of, yeah. Plenty of, 235 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,160 plenty of reasons that this should have been built in a long time ago, but just grateful that they 236 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:13,360 did. Yeah. No matter what. Yep. Um, yeah. Well, as we're talking, I haven't tried it out, but I'm 237 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,800 looking forward to it. We're talking gears. If I can get this in the camera real quick. 238 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:27,600 Look at that arm. Yeah. Check that out. Now it looks like a full blown advertisement. Hey, 239 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:36,320 so yeah, did you get that brand off of there? I think that's my main complaint with this. I mean, 240 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:42,160 I know road made it. I know they want everybody to know who made it, but it doesn't have to be 241 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:49,200 so huge. Um, that's a sleeve, right? Yes. And so technically you could cut that off 242 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:57,120 and it would look like a regular, uh, PSA one, but the benefit of it was it has the cable 243 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:05,120 management built into it. So for those listening, this is the, the road PSA one plus it's basically 244 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:13,360 the new update to the PSA one. Um, overall I'd say I really love it. Um, the big update is that 245 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:20,160 the knuckle is bi-directional so we can go either way. Yes. Yes. So yes. Yeah. I love it. You can 246 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:27,760 get a little bit of low profile and then kick it up, torque ends up underneath. Um, very, very 247 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:35,440 smooth action. Um, even smoother than the, the compass. Uh, what I love about this one straight 248 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,960 out of the box. That's impressive. Yeah. Um, straight out of the box, I move this thing 249 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,800 and it stays. I haven't had... Yeah, the compass doesn't do that. I didn't, I, yeah, I haven't had 250 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:52,880 to make an adjustment to the tension at all. So when I got the compass, I had to work on the, 251 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:59,280 the tension and I'm tweaking those plastic knobs and I'm like, oh, please don't break, please don't 252 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:06,480 break. And I kind of found it for the most part and it typically stays drilled in. But this, 253 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:13,280 you know, I've had my RE 320, which I've got on here now, I put on the PR 40, which is a little 254 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,640 bit smaller and still it was like, I move it right where I want it. It's just drilled in. 255 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:27,840 So love it, recommend it. If you're looking for a mic arm, you could consider the road PSA 1 Plus. 256 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,760 Yeah, I'm using the compass and there there's definitely, I've used the compass for a long time. 257 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:44,080 There's definitely some like the, the twists to make it more stable or whatever. 258 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:44,580 Yeah. 259 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:53,200 Are, are a little bit hard to get your fingers on. I'm not, you know, no flex. I'm not, I'm not 260 00:29:53,200 --> 00:30:00,640 like trying to say I'm really strong or anything like that, but it, it, it was not the easiest 261 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,800 thing because of the way that they're shaped. Correct. I really liked the way that it looks though. 262 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:11,760 Oh yeah. And kind of a sucker for, for that, but having the low profile would be nice as well. 263 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:17,600 And this is definitely sticking straight up off this table. Correct. I technically didn't need it. 264 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,600 There you go. Yeah. I know y'all can't see the visual, but there it is. 265 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:29,440 It's huge. Yeah. Garret is compensating for something. Yeah. You think he's compensating 266 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:36,080 for something. Garret is wanting to get into Twitch with his buddies. And so we're trying 267 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:43,840 to figure out what's the best mic for him, looking at some of the USB options and he needed a, 268 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:51,280 a mic arm. And I'm like, well, you can have my little mic arm that the PR 40 was on. So it was 269 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:58,720 like, I'm going to buy, buy this road arm and give it a try. So it's a good idea. Yeah. So I, I went 270 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:06,240 with it. I like it. I'm going to use it for a while. See if it replaces the daily driver for me. 271 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:14,240 So full disclosure, this is our opinions. We don't get kickbacks. We don't get paid for this. 272 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,840 Oh my gosh. No. Road, if you're listening, that's not how. Send product. 273 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:30,640 Listen, I can be bought. Just saying. Yes. That's, that's what I love about this show. We can 274 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,000 talk to you all about these things. We can speak open and freely. We're not on the payroll for 275 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,760 anybody. So you hear an opinion from us, you know, it's straight up. It's our honest opinion. 276 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:53,920 Yeah. Unless I'm just angry. So hard to call that honest. Yes. Another piece of gear that I 277 00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:02,080 attempted to try and I'll see how, how well guitar center loves me or hates me for this is 278 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:11,120 I'm really tempted to get the Luit LCT 440 microphone. It's a large, 279 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:16,640 it's a large diaphragm condenser. So obviously not as forgiving as a dynamic. 280 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:26,240 But what intrigues me is it has the same noise floor as the Neumann TLM 103, 281 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,360 which is one of the quietest condenser mics you can buy. 282 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:39,120 You can pick up it's advertised as the same noise floor. Yes. So you, I mean, the noise, 283 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:44,080 you can go get the Neumann if you want to drop $1,500 and it's a great microphone. You'll, 284 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:50,640 you will not regret the audio that you get from it. You'll regret how much it hurt your pocket book, 285 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,400 but you will, you won't be disappointed in the quality of the mic. Whereas the Luit, 286 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:04,960 you could pick it up for, for 299. And what's nice, it comes with the shock mount. It comes 287 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:12,000 with the foam cover and it also comes with a magnetic pop filter. You're not going to get 288 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,200 that when you buy Neumann. No, you're about to spend some more money is what you're. Yes, 289 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:25,280 you are. It's going to quickly turn into a $2,000 purchase. Speaking of $1,500, I found a ribbon 290 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:36,400 mic. So Shane and Shane, you heard of Shane and Shane, Christian artists. They started, 291 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,800 they do this thing called a worship initiative where they teach other worship leaders how to 292 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,560 be worship leaders or how to learn songs or how to, you know, whatever, play different instruments. 293 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:57,120 And I noticed on one of their videos that they had a new, oh my gosh, a new microphone that they 294 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:05,680 were using for their recordings. And it seemed like it was showing up in a lot of different videos. 295 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,600 So I went and found it and then realized that it was $1,500. And then I was like, never mind. 296 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:18,000 Like I don't even want to, I would just log that away as they've got more money than me. 297 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,040 Oh yeah. But then as I was at this conference this week, or this past part of this week, 298 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:33,920 it got mentioned again. So the AEA KU5A is a ribbon mic that evidently is not as, 299 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:42,560 not quite as delicate as other ribbon mics. Also it appears to not have the figure eight 300 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:58,240 pattern. It rejects pretty well from the backend. But it's $1,500. So that is quite a 301 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:08,800 steep price for a vocal microphone, but it's a ribbon. So if you're a ribbon fan, 302 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:16,720 which a lot of people are, very different setup, it's still a dynamic mic. I don't know if, 303 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:24,240 I don't know if I always, I don't know when I learned that. Cause I used to think the ribbons 304 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:29,280 were a different like category. You got condenser mics, you got dynamic mics, and then you have 305 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,160 ribbon mics. Well, ribbon mics are dynamic mics. It's just the way that it's not a coil 306 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:42,080 that's being moved. It's not a big heavy coil. It's a tiny piece of metal. But the way that it's 307 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:51,920 transmitting the, or it's the way that it's. Picking up the vibration. Yeah, I was thinking 308 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:59,280 of the transforming. I don't know. The way that it takes the air pressure and turns it into an 309 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:11,040 air pressure and turns it into an electrical signal is with a magnet. Same way that the coil 310 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:19,280 is doing it with the normal dynamic microphone. Or the one that we all think of whenever we think 311 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:26,000 of dynamic microphones. Yeah. Maybe you can find one of those used for an affordable price. 312 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,000 That'd be really nice. But something tells me when somebody buys this, they're not thinking about 313 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:38,640 not having it anymore. Correct. Anyway. Correct. So yeah. So where I was getting looked, yeah, 314 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,480 I'm sure even used, it's still expensive, especially if it's in really good condition. 315 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,600 Yeah. So yeah. So where I was going a while ago with we'll see how long guitar center likes me 316 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:59,200 is they have a 45 day return policy. And so I thought about going, I want to test out some gear 317 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:05,360 for fun, test it out for the show. I can go pick one up, use it for the show. Hey, here you go. 318 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,480 Spent my own money. I'm done with it. I have no reason to keep it. I need to return this. 319 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:14,240 Poor man's way of getting new product into the show. 320 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:22,640 I mean that, that, that definitely feels like buying a piece of clothing for a, 321 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,600 some sort of function and then getting it back to them with the tags still on it. 322 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,360 If you see Chris show up with a microphone with like a tag coming off of it, 323 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:40,480 it says guitar center, you know, what's going on. Hey, you need to get a new guitar center. 324 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:52,720 That's a lot of stuff going on. Hey, you can get a nice AEKU50 or KU5A. That's hard to remember. 325 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:56,480 You can get one on Reverb for $1250 plus $35 shipping. 326 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:06,000 Was that brand new or is that the used? No, that's used. Okay. So yeah. So even years, 327 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,400 I think people are hoping to get their money back if they don't want that microphone. 328 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,280 Yeah. I'm sure people view that category of mic is holding value. 329 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:31,040 I'm just saying on Reverb, there are two used AEKU5A's. That's it. The rest of them are resellers. 330 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:39,280 That's like finding the Neumann U87 and trying to get it used. You're just not going to typically 331 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,800 find that one used. Once somebody has that, they are going to keep that mic for as long as possible. 332 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,320 Kind of that gold standard. 333 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,720 Hey, thanks for hanging out with me. Yeah, it's good to do it again. 334 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,840 It is, I guess it is getting about that time. 335 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,200 I have to head up to the church and pick up my daughter. 336 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,880 Yeah, you do. Yeah. I'll see you here. 337 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:12,240 Yes. She did just actually send me a text real quick and says, can you order the Baptist fall shirt? 338 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,720 Nice. So I guess I'm ordering a shirt at a minimum. 339 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,640 There you go. So I like it. 340 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,760 Well, do a quick closing out pitch. 341 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:31,200 If you're out there listening and you don't have the Podcasting 2.0 app, you should ditch your old 342 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,080 legacy podcast app. Yeah, I called it Legacy. 343 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,080 Legacy. Oh, yes. 344 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:45,760 Yes. I know that I can hurt and get a modern app that can do Podcasting 2.0. If you don't know where 345 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,240 to go, newpodcasthaps.com. 346 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:52,560 Not getting paid for saying that? Newpodcasthaps. Not Legacy Podcast. 347 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,560 No, not Legacy. Newpodcasthaps. 348 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,960 Pick them. Pick one. They're out there for Android. They're out there for iOS. 349 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,640 There are some that are cross platform. I guess I can't say cross correctly. 350 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:12,080 Encourage you to get it. Try them out. And if you're listening to the show, send us a boost. 351 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:19,440 You can send a message. Thanks, brother. We'll call it out. You send me a boostogram with a message. 352 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:26,960 I'll gladly read it on the show. All right. Well, I guess I better close this out and go get my 353 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:43,760 daughter because she's going to think I forgot her. I'll see you later. See you next time.