1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,540 We sleep in Florida, for the Cover by Back Three moves. 2 00:00:03,540 --> 00:00:12,720 Thanks for watching guys. 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:25,020 We'll see you soon! 4 00:00:25,020 --> 00:00:29,620 Hey there. 5 00:00:29,620 --> 00:00:31,020 Hey everyone. 6 00:00:31,020 --> 00:00:38,900 We're on our pilot episode here of Beer and Gear. 7 00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:39,900 This is exciting. 8 00:00:39,900 --> 00:00:44,900 We've been talking about doing this for a long, long time and now we're finally stepping 9 00:00:44,900 --> 00:00:45,900 into it. 10 00:00:45,900 --> 00:00:46,900 Yes, we're here. 11 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:47,900 And that's a big deal. 12 00:00:47,900 --> 00:00:49,180 My name is John Redferring. 13 00:00:49,180 --> 00:00:52,700 This is Chris Kincaid with me. 14 00:00:52,700 --> 00:00:57,300 And today we're drinking some Modelo Negra. 15 00:00:57,300 --> 00:00:58,300 So cheers. 16 00:00:58,300 --> 00:00:59,300 Cheers, sir. 17 00:00:59,300 --> 00:01:07,420 This is probably not what I was hoping for for our initial recording, but it's darker 18 00:01:07,420 --> 00:01:08,420 beer. 19 00:01:08,420 --> 00:01:09,420 How about that? 20 00:01:09,420 --> 00:01:10,420 It works. 21 00:01:10,420 --> 00:01:13,340 Which is, I think, both of our preference at this point. 22 00:01:13,340 --> 00:01:14,340 Yes. 23 00:01:14,340 --> 00:01:20,620 I'm usually more of like an amber, amber to dark guy. 24 00:01:20,620 --> 00:01:26,900 I think, you know, I what was your first beer? 25 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:27,900 Natty Light. 26 00:01:27,900 --> 00:01:28,900 Natty Light. 27 00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:32,500 I mean, yeah, you got to start like just terrible. 28 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:34,340 So I had a Corona first. 29 00:01:34,340 --> 00:01:35,340 Okay. 30 00:01:35,340 --> 00:01:41,620 Complete with lime, because, you know, you got to you got to work your way into drinking 31 00:01:41,620 --> 00:01:42,620 beer. 32 00:01:42,620 --> 00:01:46,380 But yeah, you just went straight to gasoline. 33 00:01:46,380 --> 00:01:48,020 We were poor. 34 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:49,020 Yes. 35 00:01:49,020 --> 00:01:51,940 And it was the cheapest thing you could get in a case. 36 00:01:51,940 --> 00:01:52,940 That's right. 37 00:01:52,940 --> 00:01:53,940 And we went with cans. 38 00:01:53,940 --> 00:01:54,940 Yeah, there you go. 39 00:01:54,940 --> 00:01:58,620 I mean, that's that that sounds very familiar. 40 00:01:58,620 --> 00:01:59,620 Yes. 41 00:01:59,620 --> 00:02:00,620 Funny story. 42 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:05,820 I actually didn't drink beer in college very much. 43 00:02:05,820 --> 00:02:10,100 I think I had my first beer in while I was in college, but I didn't like I went to Oklahoma 44 00:02:10,100 --> 00:02:11,660 Baptist University. 45 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:15,220 There were some parties that had beer at them. 46 00:02:15,220 --> 00:02:19,860 But up in Oklahoma, they have three point two beer. 47 00:02:19,860 --> 00:02:24,480 And so anytime somebody actually threw like a big party, they would drive down to Texas 48 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:30,680 to get a keg of Shiner to make sure that it was the alcohol level was higher than three 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,680 point two. 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Correct. 51 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,920 And then they would bring that up there. 52 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:40,660 And I didn't I didn't like Shiner at the time because I wasn't really drinking beer that 53 00:02:40,660 --> 00:02:48,100 often, but now Shiner is definitely one of my favorites. 54 00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:52,580 But I got to tell you, there's a there's a place in Tyler. 55 00:02:52,580 --> 00:02:55,740 I don't know if anybody else knows this other than me. 56 00:02:55,740 --> 00:03:00,220 But there's a place in Tyler that now serves Guinness on draft. 57 00:03:00,220 --> 00:03:01,220 Yes. 58 00:03:01,220 --> 00:03:03,620 And that's not too shabby. 59 00:03:03,620 --> 00:03:07,220 That's good to have because we haven't had that since Benningans. 60 00:03:07,220 --> 00:03:13,300 Paul said that the the Chicago pizza place that used to be on the loop that they had 61 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:14,300 Guinness on draft. 62 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:15,300 I never saw it. 63 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:16,300 I didn't either. 64 00:03:16,300 --> 00:03:18,300 Anyway, it's hard to find. 65 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:20,340 And it's delicious. 66 00:03:20,340 --> 00:03:21,340 It is. 67 00:03:21,340 --> 00:03:23,140 Although it's a mill in a bottle. 68 00:03:23,140 --> 00:03:24,340 Yeah, it's a meal. 69 00:03:24,340 --> 00:03:25,340 You know what? 70 00:03:25,340 --> 00:03:29,220 You just don't even need to don't even need to worry about getting food with that because 71 00:03:29,220 --> 00:03:31,660 you're going to be full no matter what. 72 00:03:31,660 --> 00:03:33,060 Well, we had this idea. 73 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:34,100 We both like drinking beer. 74 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:37,420 We both like talking about gear. 75 00:03:37,420 --> 00:03:42,900 And so, of course, why don't we why don't we just have a podcast where we get to hang 76 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:43,900 out really? 77 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:48,220 This is for us more than it is for anybody else to get to get to hang out and talk about 78 00:03:48,220 --> 00:03:56,700 either new gear that we have or new gear that we're testing out or that we just really want. 79 00:03:56,700 --> 00:03:59,260 That's also on the table. 80 00:03:59,260 --> 00:04:03,100 And then get to drink beer and hang out. 81 00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:09,940 But the the gear part comes from we're actually kind of from two separate sides of the table 82 00:04:09,940 --> 00:04:11,820 here when it comes to gear. 83 00:04:11,820 --> 00:04:21,540 Chris, why don't you tell them about your kind of history of being a tech nerd? 84 00:04:21,540 --> 00:04:25,600 So I work in IT, been at Plain Co for going on 18 years. 85 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,580 So I'll bring 18 years 18 18 this December. 86 00:04:29,580 --> 00:04:31,100 That's crazy. 87 00:04:31,100 --> 00:04:35,860 So I'll bring more of that piece to the table. 88 00:04:35,860 --> 00:04:42,900 I am slowly learning AV, especially since I'm supposed to direct the guys who take care 89 00:04:42,900 --> 00:04:43,900 of it. 90 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:45,680 Yeah, nobody wants to be Jen. 91 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,700 Nobody wants to be the anybody knows there will be and I need I need you all to know 92 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:52,900 there will be a lot of IT crowd references. 93 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:57,860 So if you're going to watch or listen to this podcast, you're probably going to need to 94 00:04:57,860 --> 00:05:02,380 go watch some IT crowd so you can get some of them. 95 00:05:02,380 --> 00:05:05,300 There will be homework movie and TV homework. 96 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:06,300 Yeah. 97 00:05:06,300 --> 00:05:11,300 So I'll bring that piece, whether that is, you know, enterprise gear or the stuff that 98 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:12,860 we're playing with at home. 99 00:05:12,860 --> 00:05:14,980 A lot of ubiquity there. 100 00:05:14,980 --> 00:05:15,980 Yeah. 101 00:05:15,980 --> 00:05:17,700 Raspberry Pi. 102 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:21,460 Home Assistant doing some of the home automation. 103 00:05:21,460 --> 00:05:25,220 And I will bring in just a little bit of AV. 104 00:05:25,220 --> 00:05:26,660 Just a little bit of AV. 105 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:27,660 Yes. 106 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:32,700 So my role inside of the IT side of it is to ask Chris questions. 107 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:33,700 That's what I do. 108 00:05:33,700 --> 00:05:39,980 Got to got to actually meet Chris whenever he came on staff at Pine Cove because I was 109 00:05:39,980 --> 00:05:41,860 already there. 110 00:05:41,860 --> 00:05:44,140 But that was a while ago now. 111 00:05:44,140 --> 00:05:45,140 Yes. 112 00:05:45,140 --> 00:05:46,140 I mean, I guess 18 years ago. 113 00:05:46,140 --> 00:05:47,700 18 years now. 114 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:51,140 But I was back then I was actually working in maintenance. 115 00:05:51,140 --> 00:05:58,860 And then I got pulled on to the IT crew after I'd been at Pine Cove for about five years. 116 00:05:58,860 --> 00:06:05,860 And then started I have been a worship leader for a long time and started learning the the 117 00:06:05,860 --> 00:06:06,980 AV side of it. 118 00:06:06,980 --> 00:06:10,140 That's what I was going to be a specialist in. 119 00:06:10,140 --> 00:06:13,700 That's what I was a specialist in was AV stuff. 120 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:20,700 But you know, any small organization, you got to you got to have lots of hats, lots 121 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:21,700 of hats. 122 00:06:21,700 --> 00:06:24,500 So you got to learn as much as you can all the time. 123 00:06:24,500 --> 00:06:28,340 And so I started to learn from Chris back then about hardware stuff. 124 00:06:28,340 --> 00:06:29,660 He was my boss for a little bit. 125 00:06:29,660 --> 00:06:31,340 That was fun. 126 00:06:31,340 --> 00:06:36,980 And then I came to work at the church full time or church in East Texas called South 127 00:06:36,980 --> 00:06:45,200 Spring and got to do start to do AV stuff and IT stuff over here. 128 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,900 So we keep in touch because I need help a lot. 129 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:57,380 But we both have a lot of questions about gear and we both have a lot of research that's 130 00:06:57,380 --> 00:06:58,380 going on. 131 00:06:58,380 --> 00:07:01,100 And we just really like looking at what's out there. 132 00:07:01,100 --> 00:07:02,100 Absolutely. 133 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:04,340 I do have to make a call back to the feelings chair. 134 00:07:04,340 --> 00:07:05,340 I don't think we can. 135 00:07:05,340 --> 00:07:06,340 Oh, man. 136 00:07:06,340 --> 00:07:08,540 Call back to the feelings chair. 137 00:07:08,540 --> 00:07:14,160 That was that was that was a special time when when Chris and I worked in the same office 138 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:20,780 when we were officiating out of the same room, it was me and you and Preston Reese. 139 00:07:20,780 --> 00:07:21,940 That's right. 140 00:07:21,940 --> 00:07:24,700 So Preston, we love you. 141 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:26,140 He's all kinds of fancy now. 142 00:07:26,140 --> 00:07:28,380 I don't want to anyway. 143 00:07:28,380 --> 00:07:32,620 But we had a chair that we kept kind of in the middle of our desks. 144 00:07:32,620 --> 00:07:38,660 We had three desks in there in that room and a chair in the middle that we called the feelings 145 00:07:38,660 --> 00:07:40,900 chair because people could come in. 146 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:48,220 And usually when they're talking about something that's going wrong with AV or IT, the feelings 147 00:07:48,220 --> 00:07:52,940 start to come out. 148 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:55,860 But I'm also just a straight up feeler. 149 00:07:55,860 --> 00:07:59,220 And so I took that chair over and it became my desk chair. 150 00:07:59,220 --> 00:08:02,220 Yeah, you dropped in and out Dukes of Hazard style. 151 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:05,940 Dukes of Hazard style, because it was not a desk chair at all. 152 00:08:05,940 --> 00:08:11,220 But you know, I mean, that that chair has burned by now, right? 153 00:08:11,220 --> 00:08:12,860 Like it doesn't exist anymore. 154 00:08:12,860 --> 00:08:13,860 I would sure think so. 155 00:08:13,860 --> 00:08:16,140 I mean, I hope so anyway. 156 00:08:16,140 --> 00:08:20,660 It's in some land film. 157 00:08:20,660 --> 00:08:24,740 But yeah, quick gear rundown, I guess. 158 00:08:24,740 --> 00:08:28,820 This isn't going to be normally where we're how we're going through things. 159 00:08:28,820 --> 00:08:36,740 Right now, we're actually running off of a Rodecaster Pro 2 and we both are using the 160 00:08:36,740 --> 00:08:40,780 Shure SM7B microphones. 161 00:08:40,780 --> 00:08:46,500 Yeah, that's the that's the gear that we're using right now. 162 00:08:46,500 --> 00:08:51,260 Now that's that's probably not how we're going to run normally, because this is this is we're 163 00:08:51,260 --> 00:08:55,460 not going to actually be able most of the time to do this face to face. 164 00:08:55,460 --> 00:08:56,460 Correct. 165 00:08:56,460 --> 00:09:00,540 We both have families and real jobs and children. 166 00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:03,980 So that's going to have to be a video call from home. 167 00:09:03,980 --> 00:09:11,420 So we'll be able to talk about the gear that we run at home in a different episode. 168 00:09:11,420 --> 00:09:15,740 But right now, like you actually have a Rodecaster Pro at home, right? 169 00:09:15,740 --> 00:09:17,020 I do have the two. 170 00:09:17,020 --> 00:09:21,900 So if you looked at my setup at home, you think I've been at this for a long time. 171 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:26,820 Well, you kind of have, even though you haven't been producing anything. 172 00:09:26,820 --> 00:09:27,820 Correct. 173 00:09:27,820 --> 00:09:35,420 I've been talking about doing a podcast for probably a solid five years and just never 174 00:09:35,420 --> 00:09:36,420 got around to it. 175 00:09:36,420 --> 00:09:38,580 Never got around to it. 176 00:09:38,580 --> 00:09:43,660 There's going to be so many things that y'all get to know about Chris inside of this. 177 00:09:43,660 --> 00:09:45,140 We're both pretty introverted. 178 00:09:45,140 --> 00:09:52,180 I've had to be extroverted for my job, but not huge extroverted people over here. 179 00:09:52,180 --> 00:09:53,220 It's kind of funny. 180 00:09:53,220 --> 00:09:58,420 I don't think the people would know that you have like four professional microphones at 181 00:09:58,420 --> 00:09:59,420 home. 182 00:09:59,420 --> 00:10:01,420 No, I'm reduced down at the moment. 183 00:10:01,420 --> 00:10:02,420 OK. 184 00:10:02,420 --> 00:10:05,700 I've got the RE320, which will probably be my go to. 185 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:10,300 And then I've got the the Hile PR40. 186 00:10:10,300 --> 00:10:11,820 And that's all I have at the moment. 187 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:12,820 Really? 188 00:10:12,820 --> 00:10:13,820 Yes. 189 00:10:13,820 --> 00:10:14,820 So what did you have before? 190 00:10:14,820 --> 00:10:17,700 I had an SM7B. 191 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:22,420 And then I had the RE27ND. 192 00:10:22,420 --> 00:10:23,420 Yeah. 193 00:10:23,420 --> 00:10:35,500 Which is the RE20, but with the hotter magnets, neodymium magnets. 194 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:37,740 So you get a much hotter output. 195 00:10:37,740 --> 00:10:40,760 You don't have to crank up the gain as much. 196 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:46,880 Kind of higher end sound, not higher end meaning expensive, higher end meaning like the higher 197 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,340 end of the frequency is kind of highlighted. 198 00:10:49,340 --> 00:10:53,700 So yeah, with that, you don't have to be really careful with your symbolism, I believe, or 199 00:10:53,700 --> 00:10:54,700 symbolence. 200 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:55,700 Symbolence, not symbolism. 201 00:10:55,700 --> 00:10:58,700 Hey, it's all the same. 202 00:10:58,700 --> 00:10:59,700 Symbolence. 203 00:10:59,700 --> 00:11:00,980 Oh, man. 204 00:11:00,980 --> 00:11:03,500 That's another another joke for another time. 205 00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:07,900 But yeah, and especially like when you're when we're at home, that you would not be 206 00:11:07,900 --> 00:11:12,980 able to run your AC at the same time, because that would just pick up all of that. 207 00:11:12,980 --> 00:11:13,980 Absolutely. 208 00:11:13,980 --> 00:11:17,500 And truth be known, I'll probably literally be doing it out of my closet. 209 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:18,500 Yeah. 210 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:23,660 It's about the most padded and treated room in the house to use. 211 00:11:23,660 --> 00:11:24,660 That's pretty funny. 212 00:11:24,660 --> 00:11:26,340 I mean, it's a tiny closet. 213 00:11:26,340 --> 00:11:27,340 It is. 214 00:11:27,340 --> 00:11:28,340 It's not a big closet. 215 00:11:28,340 --> 00:11:32,180 No, you got a tiny closet, you're running your AV gear out of it. 216 00:11:32,180 --> 00:11:36,900 Yes, to borrow from some other people, it'll be my Cluedio. 217 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:40,780 Well, there you go. 218 00:11:40,780 --> 00:11:41,860 Do you have an arm? 219 00:11:41,860 --> 00:11:44,780 Like what we're running off the compass arms in here. 220 00:11:44,780 --> 00:11:46,140 I have this exact same thing. 221 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:47,140 Oh, the compass arm. 222 00:11:47,140 --> 00:11:48,140 Yeah. 223 00:11:48,140 --> 00:11:50,580 And then I the you know, not using it right now. 224 00:11:50,580 --> 00:11:56,700 The Hile is actually on a little Hile arm that mounts to the table and extends out. 225 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:59,980 But it's not a full articulating arm like these are. 226 00:11:59,980 --> 00:12:05,980 Yeah, I like the these compass arms are nice because it everything looks real smooth and 227 00:12:05,980 --> 00:12:06,980 everything on them. 228 00:12:06,980 --> 00:12:13,740 But I will say what's the Elgato guys? 229 00:12:13,740 --> 00:12:14,740 Is that just logic? 230 00:12:14,740 --> 00:12:15,740 It's not Logitech. 231 00:12:15,740 --> 00:12:16,740 What? 232 00:12:16,740 --> 00:12:17,740 Who makes the Elgato? 233 00:12:17,740 --> 00:12:21,420 I thought it was actually just Elgato. 234 00:12:21,420 --> 00:12:28,380 Anyway, there's an arm. 235 00:12:28,380 --> 00:12:29,700 Believe it's called the Wave. 236 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:30,700 Yeah. 237 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:37,620 So the the Wave arm Elgato Wave mic arm probably for home. 238 00:12:37,620 --> 00:12:44,700 That's what I'm going to be using because it's it's actually lower, which these are 239 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:45,700 nice. 240 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:52,740 And everybody's seen the the like the Rode PS PS one. 241 00:12:52,740 --> 00:12:54,280 Sorry. 242 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,500 That type of arm like that comes over the top and kind of holds the mic more at your 243 00:12:58,500 --> 00:12:59,500 face. 244 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:01,420 It's nice. 245 00:13:01,420 --> 00:13:07,660 But it's also like it is this huge structure coming out of the desk next to you. 246 00:13:07,660 --> 00:13:14,820 Whereas the Wave, it's it's a little bit cheaper, but it's it's lower profile. 247 00:13:14,820 --> 00:13:22,460 And that's that's probably more what I will be running at home with my Aston microphone. 248 00:13:22,460 --> 00:13:28,900 Yes, I would say the Wave nestles that microphone right up into your chin. 249 00:13:28,900 --> 00:13:30,220 Your beard hairs. 250 00:13:30,220 --> 00:13:31,580 Yes. 251 00:13:31,580 --> 00:13:34,860 Which is where mine is right now anyway. 252 00:13:34,860 --> 00:13:36,700 Yeah. 253 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:40,140 So we really like the Rodecaster Pro 2. 254 00:13:40,140 --> 00:13:41,500 Yes, I think both of us do. 255 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:47,780 We I had a we had a Rodecaster Pro just the first version whenever it first came out. 256 00:13:47,780 --> 00:13:56,060 And that thing, I mean, broke all kinds of rules about doing processing and how you were 257 00:13:56,060 --> 00:14:04,100 going to, you know, whether you have that running into your computer to then run processing 258 00:14:04,100 --> 00:14:05,860 that way or whatever. 259 00:14:05,860 --> 00:14:10,580 But like having the individual faders and being able to assign those faders, which came 260 00:14:10,580 --> 00:14:15,060 later or did that wait until Pro 2 to come out? 261 00:14:15,060 --> 00:14:17,600 I don't remember. 262 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:23,780 But then, you know, just the being able to assign the buttons to different things and 263 00:14:23,780 --> 00:14:31,060 all that made made it a lot easier for for people to be able to jump in producing content 264 00:14:31,060 --> 00:14:34,900 without having to have an extra person, I guess, doing that. 265 00:14:34,900 --> 00:14:35,900 Correct. 266 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:40,180 Yeah, the Pro 2 really added that extra USB channel, which is incredibly useful. 267 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:41,180 Very useful. 268 00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:46,060 And then made the pads a little more useful than just some basic jingles. 269 00:14:46,060 --> 00:14:47,060 Yeah. 270 00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:50,100 And I was super excited about that. 271 00:14:50,100 --> 00:14:54,340 Because they didn't, you know, you didn't have this opportunity whenever the Pro 2 first 272 00:14:54,340 --> 00:14:55,340 came out. 273 00:14:55,340 --> 00:14:58,700 But that that USB now can be another microphone. 274 00:14:58,700 --> 00:15:00,180 Yes. 275 00:15:00,180 --> 00:15:01,180 Which is awesome. 276 00:15:01,180 --> 00:15:03,700 Now you can have five microphones on this guy. 277 00:15:03,700 --> 00:15:04,700 Yeah. 278 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:10,980 So if you had something like the new PodMic USB, plug it right in and go. 279 00:15:10,980 --> 00:15:11,980 Yeah. 280 00:15:11,980 --> 00:15:17,260 And I think that it also has the ability to use their wireless mic. 281 00:15:17,260 --> 00:15:21,780 If you've got the new version of their new version, little lapel mic that they have, 282 00:15:21,780 --> 00:15:31,540 the ME 2 or the Go mic go or something like that. 283 00:15:31,540 --> 00:15:36,060 Anyway, it also has a receiver in there, which they didn't even tell us about when they first 284 00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:37,820 came out with the Pro 2. 285 00:15:37,820 --> 00:15:43,660 Anyway, I'm loving where we're at right now with this type of gear, because it's just 286 00:15:43,660 --> 00:15:46,700 it's constantly upgrading. 287 00:15:46,700 --> 00:15:48,200 They don't have a choice. 288 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,660 They just keep keep giving us new stuff over and over and over again. 289 00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:53,660 And correct. 290 00:15:53,660 --> 00:15:56,100 And there is an increasing number of players in the market. 291 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:57,100 Yes. 292 00:15:57,100 --> 00:16:00,820 So they know they have to innovate to stay. 293 00:16:00,820 --> 00:16:09,400 Which you know, we can talk about the markets and how how we like when there's multiple 294 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,980 people in the market. 295 00:16:10,980 --> 00:16:11,980 Correct. 296 00:16:11,980 --> 00:16:15,860 Because free market stuff is nice for consumers. 297 00:16:15,860 --> 00:16:16,860 Yes. 298 00:16:16,860 --> 00:16:19,260 Drives up innovation, drives down cost. 299 00:16:19,260 --> 00:16:20,260 Yeah. 300 00:16:20,260 --> 00:16:23,460 Now, you know where we stand on that. 301 00:16:23,460 --> 00:16:25,100 Yeah. 302 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:34,100 But I think that the majority of the time, you know, we're going to we're going to get 303 00:16:34,100 --> 00:16:38,140 to talk about the stuff that we're actually using and what we like and don't like about 304 00:16:38,140 --> 00:16:39,140 it. 305 00:16:39,140 --> 00:16:45,300 But then we're also going to be able to talk about, you know, what's coming down the pipeline 306 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:49,980 when it comes to new gear and things like that. 307 00:16:49,980 --> 00:16:51,660 September is coming in a hurry. 308 00:16:51,660 --> 00:16:53,180 And yes, it is. 309 00:16:53,180 --> 00:16:56,900 As an Apple fan, I've got a lot of things to look forward to. 310 00:16:56,900 --> 00:16:59,820 Chris, what are your thoughts? 311 00:16:59,820 --> 00:17:03,980 I just want truth in advertising. 312 00:17:03,980 --> 00:17:04,980 Just give me truth in advertising. 313 00:17:04,980 --> 00:17:05,980 That's all I want. 314 00:17:05,980 --> 00:17:12,820 It's just but things are amazing and magical and wonderful and have never been faster or 315 00:17:12,820 --> 00:17:13,820 better. 316 00:17:13,820 --> 00:17:15,460 What do you mean? 317 00:17:15,460 --> 00:17:17,820 I need to find the YouTube clip. 318 00:17:17,820 --> 00:17:24,100 Which one to bring for a future show where it's them doing the parody of the Apple event 319 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:28,900 with all of the adjectives that they love to describe their product. 320 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:30,540 I mean, they still do it. 321 00:17:30,540 --> 00:17:31,540 It's still a thing. 322 00:17:31,540 --> 00:17:34,900 It was way worse when Jobs was around. 323 00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:35,900 Correct. 324 00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:41,380 I mean, that was like a that was a. 325 00:17:41,380 --> 00:17:42,780 That's when you played Apple Bingo. 326 00:17:42,780 --> 00:17:47,820 Yeah, if you if you get these three in a row. 327 00:17:47,820 --> 00:17:50,820 That's a normal day. 328 00:17:50,820 --> 00:17:53,420 They were kind of ridiculous with that. 329 00:17:53,420 --> 00:17:54,420 Yes. 330 00:17:54,420 --> 00:18:03,020 But yeah, I like I've been using Mac computers and have been in the ecosystem for quite a 331 00:18:03,020 --> 00:18:04,020 few years now. 332 00:18:04,020 --> 00:18:05,020 Yes. 333 00:18:05,020 --> 00:18:06,020 I got my first iPhone. 334 00:18:06,020 --> 00:18:07,780 I think it was a four. 335 00:18:07,780 --> 00:18:08,900 I mean, not four. 336 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:09,900 Four S. 337 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:13,100 But back then, man. 338 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:17,460 Gosh, there have been so many iterations of everything. 339 00:18:17,460 --> 00:18:22,300 And then they just completely jumped nine straight to ten, eight and ten. 340 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:23,300 Yes. 341 00:18:23,300 --> 00:18:25,540 I will stick with my Windows and Android. 342 00:18:25,540 --> 00:18:26,540 Yeah. 343 00:18:26,540 --> 00:18:34,820 So Chris is currently using a Dell laptop and what kind of Android? 344 00:18:34,820 --> 00:18:38,820 I am currently I'm on the Pixel 6 Pro. 345 00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:39,820 Pixel 6 Pro. 346 00:18:39,820 --> 00:18:40,820 Yes. 347 00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:43,540 How far back is that? 348 00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:47,420 I think we're one iteration back. 349 00:18:47,420 --> 00:18:49,580 I think the eight is around the corner. 350 00:18:49,580 --> 00:18:50,580 All right. 351 00:18:50,580 --> 00:18:51,580 Eight is around the corner. 352 00:18:51,580 --> 00:18:54,340 I was like, I feel like I've heard about the eight, but I didn't know if that had already 353 00:18:54,340 --> 00:18:55,340 come out or not. 354 00:18:55,340 --> 00:18:57,140 So the eight is coming out. 355 00:18:57,140 --> 00:19:06,380 I'm on the 13 Pro and I have a 14 inch MacBook Pro. 356 00:19:06,380 --> 00:19:09,340 But the the only reason I'm on the 13 Pro. 357 00:19:09,340 --> 00:19:10,340 I was on the mini. 358 00:19:10,340 --> 00:19:13,820 I was on the 12 mini and I love that thing. 359 00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:21,060 The battery life was terrible, but the is a lot of fun just carrying on a tiny phone. 360 00:19:21,060 --> 00:19:25,580 But then I got in a motorcycle accident and that thing got bent almost in half. 361 00:19:25,580 --> 00:19:34,620 It was kind of crazy how it got torn up being in my pocket and then thrown across the highway. 362 00:19:34,620 --> 00:19:38,500 Oh, what are you going to do? 363 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:42,500 I will tell you, I gear and asphalt do not mix. 364 00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:43,940 No, it does not. 365 00:19:43,940 --> 00:19:46,220 It broke my asphalt wins every time. 366 00:19:46,220 --> 00:19:48,660 Broke my watch and my phone at the same time. 367 00:19:48,660 --> 00:19:52,180 But what are you going to do? 368 00:19:52,180 --> 00:19:58,100 Now when we're doing this at home, I'll actually be using a Dell 7040 micro. 369 00:19:58,100 --> 00:19:59,100 Really? 370 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:00,100 Yes. 371 00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:06,060 I did a little upgrades to it, put a PCIe SSD in it, upgraded the memory. 372 00:20:06,060 --> 00:20:07,060 Nice. 373 00:20:07,060 --> 00:20:14,980 I'm taking advantage of the USB 3 in that, so I'm actually running the road caster and 374 00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:17,580 both channels into that. 375 00:20:17,580 --> 00:20:18,580 Both channels? 376 00:20:18,580 --> 00:20:19,580 Both channels in, yes. 377 00:20:19,580 --> 00:20:21,740 I did find out the hard way. 378 00:20:21,740 --> 00:20:26,220 Don't turn on the road caster after you've boot up the PC. 379 00:20:26,220 --> 00:20:30,700 I think it's overloading the USB and it doesn't like it and the computer turns off. 380 00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:31,700 Okay. 381 00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:35,580 So turn on the road caster first, then boot up the computer. 382 00:20:35,580 --> 00:20:37,180 That's funny. 383 00:20:37,180 --> 00:20:39,140 It's like, wait, what are you doing? 384 00:20:39,140 --> 00:20:43,460 Yes, because I was actually in the middle of playing around with CleanFeed and I was 385 00:20:43,460 --> 00:20:46,660 like, okay, let's get the road caster ready to go. 386 00:20:46,660 --> 00:20:51,140 Reach back, pop that power button, computer went right off. 387 00:20:51,140 --> 00:20:52,540 It didn't even give you like a stutter. 388 00:20:52,540 --> 00:20:55,220 It was like, no, I'm gone. 389 00:20:55,220 --> 00:20:56,220 Gone. 390 00:20:56,220 --> 00:20:57,220 Wow. 391 00:20:57,220 --> 00:20:58,220 Yes. 392 00:20:58,220 --> 00:20:59,220 That's insane. 393 00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:00,220 Yeah. 394 00:21:00,220 --> 00:21:05,500 Tell me about CleanFeed because that's probably where we're going to end up being using CleanFeed. 395 00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:08,780 For our conversations. 396 00:21:08,780 --> 00:21:10,580 So CleanFeed really just handles. 397 00:21:10,580 --> 00:21:12,060 Any award winning. 398 00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:13,060 Yeah. 399 00:21:13,060 --> 00:21:14,780 CleanFeed is really just audio only. 400 00:21:14,780 --> 00:21:18,380 There's no video necessarily. 401 00:21:18,380 --> 00:21:26,140 So kind of like Zoom and some of the others that are out there, but purely audio and it's 402 00:21:26,140 --> 00:21:27,660 all about HD audio. 403 00:21:27,660 --> 00:21:31,780 Yeah, which is good because if you're doing HD audio, you don't want all that bandwidth 404 00:21:31,780 --> 00:21:36,620 being dedicated to video, which takes up way more space. 405 00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:37,620 Correct. 406 00:21:37,620 --> 00:21:40,820 And then you can also do recording through there. 407 00:21:40,820 --> 00:21:47,020 Now I think possibly to get into some of the nicer levels of recording, you've got a pony 408 00:21:47,020 --> 00:21:49,100 up for the subscription. 409 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:54,980 So but I think for what we're going to be doing, the free level is going to be fine. 410 00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:58,980 And you can do a lot of hours. 411 00:21:58,980 --> 00:22:04,300 There's not necessarily a limit in terms in terms of how often you can use it. 412 00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:05,300 That's nice. 413 00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:06,300 Yes. 414 00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:15,580 So for those out there that are looking at doing something like this, CleanFeed.net, 415 00:22:15,580 --> 00:22:16,580 right? 416 00:22:16,580 --> 00:22:17,580 CleanFeed.net. 417 00:22:17,580 --> 00:22:22,220 And if you're on a Mac, you need to know it doesn't like Safari. 418 00:22:22,220 --> 00:22:23,220 Correct. 419 00:22:23,220 --> 00:22:24,220 It really likes Chrome. 420 00:22:24,220 --> 00:22:25,580 It really likes Chrome. 421 00:22:25,580 --> 00:22:29,860 It's one of those guys that really likes Chrome. 422 00:22:29,860 --> 00:22:30,860 Yes. 423 00:22:30,860 --> 00:22:33,420 But that's a good option. 424 00:22:33,420 --> 00:22:38,940 I'm looking at this here for the free model, or freemium, I guess you could say. 425 00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:40,220 You can have multiple parties. 426 00:22:40,220 --> 00:22:42,540 You can have the HD audio. 427 00:22:42,540 --> 00:22:46,900 And you actually can do unlimited session recording. 428 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:52,380 But if you want to get into multi-track recording, then you've got to move into the Pro. 429 00:22:52,380 --> 00:22:55,340 Pro would also bring in a cart wall if you need it. 430 00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:56,340 You're right. 431 00:22:56,340 --> 00:23:00,460 If we ever introduce any jingles and have advantage or need to take advantage of that, 432 00:23:00,460 --> 00:23:05,580 you can do multiple input devices, higher bit rates. 433 00:23:05,580 --> 00:23:09,260 Oh, you get email support. 434 00:23:09,260 --> 00:23:10,860 Everyone loves email support. 435 00:23:10,860 --> 00:23:18,300 I mean, as opposed to no support? 436 00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:20,660 I'm trying to hold back what I was thinking on email support. 437 00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:24,100 I don't want to throw ubiquity totally under the bus. 438 00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:26,700 Oh, Mercy, don't. 439 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:27,700 Yeah. 440 00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:31,060 But Chris, you've been a support guy. 441 00:23:31,060 --> 00:23:34,820 Before Pine Cove, what were you doing? 442 00:23:34,820 --> 00:23:41,380 I was doing support for Cox Communications on TV, internet, and phone. 443 00:23:41,380 --> 00:23:48,420 And I will tell you, there's nothing like them rolling out phone service to places that 444 00:23:48,420 --> 00:23:53,060 don't have the right coax to support it. 445 00:23:53,060 --> 00:23:59,500 And they call you and you're hearing about every third or fourth word and they're understandably 446 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:00,500 upset. 447 00:24:00,500 --> 00:24:04,340 And you're basically saying, hey, why don't you call me back from your cell phone? 448 00:24:04,340 --> 00:24:05,340 Eesh. 449 00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:07,140 So fun times. 450 00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:09,780 Hey, we're supplying you with phone. 451 00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:11,260 Don't call me from it though. 452 00:24:11,260 --> 00:24:12,260 Correct. 453 00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:13,260 Correct. 454 00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:17,980 So yeah, that job was rough because the whole reason that they're calling you is because 455 00:24:17,980 --> 00:24:19,740 it doesn't work. 456 00:24:19,740 --> 00:24:22,260 They're never calling you to tell you that they love the service. 457 00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:24,420 It's fine. 458 00:24:24,420 --> 00:24:26,660 The worst nights were pay per view nights. 459 00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:27,660 Okay. 460 00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:31,180 Because when you'd have a given city and a pay per view didn't work. 461 00:24:31,180 --> 00:24:35,340 And let me tell you, when people fork out that kind of money, they come a calling. 462 00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:36,340 I bet. 463 00:24:36,340 --> 00:24:40,300 And nine times out of 10, we couldn't fix it. 464 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:41,980 Yeah, that's bad. 465 00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:42,980 Yeah. 466 00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:45,340 We could basically send a reset to the box. 467 00:24:45,340 --> 00:24:47,380 That was just not going to work. 468 00:24:47,380 --> 00:24:51,860 You did it anyway, just to do your due diligence, follow the script, so to speak. 469 00:24:51,860 --> 00:24:57,140 And then you would kick it up the chain and the knock would have to investigate. 470 00:24:57,140 --> 00:24:58,700 Yeah, that's not good. 471 00:24:58,700 --> 00:25:01,900 And usually after those, there was a ton of refunds being done. 472 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:02,900 Yeah. 473 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:05,220 Because they did not get to watch their pay per view. 474 00:25:05,220 --> 00:25:11,740 Yeah, I would tell you, Chris is probably one of the most patient people that I know. 475 00:25:11,740 --> 00:25:16,060 And I feel like a lot of it has to come from just personality. 476 00:25:16,060 --> 00:25:22,020 But a lot of it has to come from the customer service jobs that you've had. 477 00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:23,020 Yeah. 478 00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:24,020 Because you've had a few of those. 479 00:25:24,020 --> 00:25:25,020 A few, a few, yeah. 480 00:25:25,020 --> 00:25:29,580 I started with Toys R Us because I hate myself. 481 00:25:29,580 --> 00:25:31,580 Because I hate myself. 482 00:25:31,580 --> 00:25:36,900 So I did Toys R Us for over four years. 483 00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:40,620 And then went over to help open up Office Max here in Tyler. 484 00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:43,140 Did that for four years. 485 00:25:43,140 --> 00:25:47,340 And then went back to Toys R Us because I still hated myself. 486 00:25:47,340 --> 00:25:54,740 Was there for about six months and then went on to Cox and then from there to Pine Cove. 487 00:25:54,740 --> 00:25:55,740 Yeah. 488 00:25:55,740 --> 00:26:00,100 Because Cox was still in East Texas at that point. 489 00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:04,460 Yeah, we were a part of what they called Middle America. 490 00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:05,460 Middle America. 491 00:26:05,460 --> 00:26:06,460 Yeah. 492 00:26:06,460 --> 00:26:15,060 Because Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, and then for some reason a small patch in 493 00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:16,060 Idaho. 494 00:26:16,060 --> 00:26:17,060 OK. 495 00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:18,060 Just random. 496 00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:19,060 Random. 497 00:26:19,060 --> 00:26:23,340 Hey, Idaho's not touching any oceans. 498 00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:27,180 So it is Middle America, technically. 499 00:26:27,180 --> 00:26:35,420 Trying to think in the name of the town that's there in Idaho that they had because actually 500 00:26:35,420 --> 00:26:37,940 on one of my support calls and I'll never forget it. 501 00:26:37,940 --> 00:26:42,180 Now I'm not going to remember his name. 502 00:26:42,180 --> 00:26:46,940 Used to do Weekend Update on SNL and the HBO show. 503 00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:47,940 I should know this. 504 00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:48,940 I love him. 505 00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:49,940 Oh my gosh. 506 00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:50,940 Dennis Miller. 507 00:26:50,940 --> 00:26:51,940 Dennis Miller. 508 00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:54,140 It was Dennis Miller's house. 509 00:26:54,140 --> 00:26:55,820 I didn't get to talk directly to Dennis. 510 00:26:55,820 --> 00:26:57,100 I could hear him in the background. 511 00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:58,100 Yeah. 512 00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:01,540 But I was helping the technician with an Internet issue and he was like, you're not going to 513 00:27:01,540 --> 00:27:02,540 believe it. 514 00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:04,540 This is actually Dennis Miller's house. 515 00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:05,540 He's right here. 516 00:27:05,540 --> 00:27:06,540 He's right here. 517 00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:07,540 Yes. 518 00:27:07,540 --> 00:27:10,100 He's like, he answered the door in a pair of shorts and no shoes. 519 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:13,340 Like wait, what is going on? 520 00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:16,980 Celebrity right here in front of me and Boise. 521 00:27:16,980 --> 00:27:19,420 I don't know. 522 00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:21,140 Is there another town in Idaho? 523 00:27:21,140 --> 00:27:22,140 I don't know. 524 00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:23,140 I don't know. 525 00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:24,140 I'm trying to look it up. 526 00:27:24,140 --> 00:27:27,460 I should be able to remember it. 527 00:27:27,460 --> 00:27:28,460 That's funny. 528 00:27:28,460 --> 00:27:33,140 I mean, that's like way back. 529 00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:34,740 Yes. 530 00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:36,060 SNL. 531 00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:37,140 Yes. 532 00:27:37,140 --> 00:27:39,660 Loved him on there for Weekend Update. 533 00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:41,860 That's pretty good. 534 00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:44,060 Loved him on his HBO show. 535 00:27:44,060 --> 00:27:47,060 What was his HBO show? 536 00:27:47,060 --> 00:27:50,340 Now you're putting me on the spot. 537 00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:51,340 Yeah, I am. 538 00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:52,340 What else are we going to do? 539 00:27:52,340 --> 00:27:53,340 That's the nineties. 540 00:27:53,340 --> 00:27:54,340 Yeah. 541 00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:55,340 Hold on. 542 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:58,340 I remember the intro. 543 00:27:58,340 --> 00:28:00,820 We have these. 544 00:28:00,820 --> 00:28:03,660 It was aptly named the Dennis Miller show. 545 00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:07,340 Dennis Miller live or the Dennis Miller show. 546 00:28:07,340 --> 00:28:09,820 Yeah, actually he's got both. 547 00:28:09,820 --> 00:28:11,140 Okay. 548 00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:12,300 That's funny. 549 00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:14,100 I don't think I ever saw the show. 550 00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:17,100 I remember him on Weekend Update. 551 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:18,580 Yes. 552 00:28:18,580 --> 00:28:21,860 That's hilarious. 553 00:28:21,860 --> 00:28:28,020 Well, that's pretty good. 554 00:28:28,020 --> 00:28:39,300 Well, be back in two weeks to talk about what the next gear thought is and hopefully have 555 00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:42,020 a plan for moving forward. 556 00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:46,780 Probably should figure out a way for folks to send us for what they would like to be 557 00:28:46,780 --> 00:28:47,780 covered. 558 00:28:47,780 --> 00:28:48,780 Absolutely. 559 00:28:48,780 --> 00:28:52,940 If they have any questions, because everybody's got AV questions. 560 00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:54,220 Yes, they do. 561 00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:56,660 Can you come make my cable work? 562 00:28:56,660 --> 00:29:02,220 Well, that's where I would actually love to try to figure out, can we make some of the 563 00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:04,900 podcasting 2.0 features work? 564 00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:07,860 Because you can now introduce. 565 00:29:07,860 --> 00:29:10,020 Now we'd have to work towards a live show. 566 00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:11,020 Yeah. 567 00:29:11,020 --> 00:29:14,100 But you could have them send them what's called a booster gram. 568 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:15,100 Okay. 569 00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:16,900 With a message in the middle of the show. 570 00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:25,860 And you can actually interact with your listeners and then with you and say like, Hey, why? 571 00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:27,260 Why do you sound like that? 572 00:29:27,260 --> 00:29:28,260 Yeah. 573 00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:29,260 That's funny. 574 00:29:29,260 --> 00:29:31,580 So we'll we'll try to figure that out over time. 575 00:29:31,580 --> 00:29:32,580 Wow. 576 00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:33,580 Okay. 577 00:29:33,580 --> 00:29:36,740 Well, hey, it was good to get to hang out and talk to you. 578 00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:37,740 Yes, it's been a while. 579 00:29:37,740 --> 00:29:39,740 Grateful to actually see you. 580 00:29:39,740 --> 00:29:40,740 It's good to see you as well. 581 00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:41,740 It's campus over now. 582 00:29:41,740 --> 00:29:42,740 Yes. 583 00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:43,740 All right. 584 00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:44,740 Cheers. 585 00:29:44,740 --> 00:29:45,740 Cheers. 586 00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:46,740 I'm afraid mine's already gone. 587 00:29:46,740 --> 00:30:10,140 Yeah, I'm getting close.