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So in five, four, three, two, one.

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["Rhythm and Wit"]

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Hello, and welcome to another episode of Rhythm and Wit.

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My name is David Steele,

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and with me as always is...

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Nick Campbell.

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And today we have a very special guest on the show,

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and here in my living room, this is Grayson Trice.

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Hey!

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Hello!

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Thank you for coming, Grayson.

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Long time, too.

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Thrilled to be here, yeah,

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it's great to get to sit down with you all.

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Yeah, I remember we started right around into you,

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again, in the past year,

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with running into your wife doing art shows,

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and so we kind of connected and started talking,

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and you hit me up about doing an interview

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about World Tai Chi Day, which is coming up.

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World Tai Chi Day, April 27th,

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Saturday, April 27th at 10 a.m.

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So...

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Yeah, door's open at 9.30, just so you know,

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so there's a time for people to mingle

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and kind of talk to the various instructors,

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gonna be their sponsors, we'll have tables

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and that sort of thing, and then we'll have a, you know,

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actually do some chi gong and some tai chi,

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and there's a lot going on.

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Where is that at?

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It's at the International Dance Studio,

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which is 3001 Northwest 73rd Street,

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in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

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Nice, dude, look where we are.

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We got notes and glasses and everything.

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Yeah, I know, it's really scary.

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It's really good to see you after so long.

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Yeah, man.

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It's like, I don't know, I talked to a buddy of mine recently

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and it was just like, I mean, I see you around doing stuff,

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and I kinda like see him in the crowd,

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I'm like, yeah, that guy's still alive, hell yeah.

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And then we just keep moving past each other,

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but it's fine to be able to pin you down, you know.

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So World Tai Chi Day, this is international.

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Yes.

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Yeah, and they set it up and the idea is...

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Well, the idea is it's a worldwide event

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and it's gonna start, there's more information on the thing,

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but it starts over in the Orient.

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You know, where Tai Chi began, and then on that day,

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on the beginning of the day,

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as people's part of the world moves into that time,

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there's gonna be event in that area,

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in the various cities in that area,

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where everybody's gonna get together

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and do Tai Chi and Chi Gong all at the same time,

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with the idea of, you know, for the healing of the world,

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you know, give the world an energetic shot

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to its immune system, so to speak.

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I love it.

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So if somebody who's interested in going,

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what do you need to bring?

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just wear some loose-fitting clothing that you can move in,

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and if you have one, maybe a meditation cushion,

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but most of the, it's gonna be mostly moving forms.

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I think I'm the only Sifu there this year

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that's gonna be doing a seated meditation to kick it off.

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What about like a yoga mat?

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Oh yeah, yoga mat might be good, you know.

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from what little I know about Chi Gong, its movements,

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is it, do you use yoga mats?

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I really don't care whether I use a yoga mat or not,

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but I come from the internal martial arts tradition

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where you practice on hardwood floors,

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and you get thrown on hardwood floors and stuff like that.

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or your falling technique is good,

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because if you can take those kind of falls

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and roll around on the hardwood floor, then you're okay.

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because most of us can't handle

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that kind of consistent training.

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It tends to run people off.

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When did you start?

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Oh gosh, I started, you know,

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I was first introduced to martial arts

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when I was very young.

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here in Oklahoma City when I was seven years old.

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and I remember a Chiro coming over

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with these old men from Japan,

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like Aikido masters and stuff like that,

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and they'd show us locks and stuff.

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oh, this is fun, kind of.

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and my parents took me out of the classes

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when I started wanting to go in early

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so I could do body conditioning.

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I wanted to punch hard things and condition my knuckles,

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and I was seven, like, no,

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you're not gonna start doing that to yourself.

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like freestyle wrestling, Greco-Roman wrestling,

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Sambo, I won a national Sambo championship,

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and stuff like that.

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and I realized I needed to start doing something

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to get my health back and my strength

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and that sort of thing.

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I'd had walking pneumonia for seven months

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and didn't know it, it almost killed me.

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I went to the hospital when I was coughing up blood.

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I didn't know I was that sick, yeah.

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up in New York and started taking classes there,

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and that kind of spun off, because I was always,

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because Aikijitsu is an internal martial art,

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and I'm not gonna get into what's the difference

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between external and internal and all that,

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but save it to say, internal martial arts use energy

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to complement their movement and their fighting.

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to have a beneficial health benefit.

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The people who stick with the internal martial arts,

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they tend to stay healthy, live longer,

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the external martial arts, they tend to have

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a lot of health problems and arthritis in their joints

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and all kinds of strange problems,

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but we're not gonna get into what causes that

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and the reasons for it, but that's how I got into it

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because for me, it was always about technique

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and training and being smart,

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and I thought it was really very much,

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that's what made you a good martial artist or anything,

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but then I started to feel the chi or the energy

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just from the movements, because they're designed

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to cultivate and evoke these responses,

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and I started to feel it, and I didn't know what was going on,

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and I went to my sensei and said,

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hey dude, I'm feeling kind of weird,

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and this is what's going, I said,

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oh yeah, you're feeling the chi.

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Can you kind of pin down the feeling a little bit

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or associate it with something?

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It's kind of like you feel electricity

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running through your body,

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and your technique is just super easy.

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Something that I've struggled with,

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even if I was good at it, I found it challenging,

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all of a sudden when you've got that body movement

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and the energy, it just works really, really done.

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It almost feels like you didn't do anything.

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Yeah, it's just natural.

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Do you use that in your regular life,

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like using energy being,

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what is it, is it more being in tune with yourself?

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Is that the idea?

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Well yeah, you have to become in tune with yourself

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to be able, you know, this stuff is running

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through our bodies all the time.

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It's just, we're not aware of it.

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the qigong is the healing side of the internal martial arts.

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because qigong itself is not a martial art.

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energy work side in common parlance,

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energy work side of the martial arts

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that's for your healing,

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your self personal transformation,

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and that sort of thing.

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And it's something to keep you healthy.

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It's something to help you live longer.

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It's something to help you go through life

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with maybe a little bit more grace,

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than maybe you would otherwise.

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that people who engage in the practice

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for 10 minutes a day have a greater feeling of peace

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and safety and they're just general being.

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meaning that even if they do get angry or something,

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they come back to center quicker.

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You know, they're able to get over it.

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You know, greater mental acuity, creativity,

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that sort of thing is a result of it.

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In the higher levels of the practice,

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you know, that's when we start getting into the mystical,

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which results like in Houshan Dao qigong,

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if you wanna just stay at the level

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where I wanna be healthier, more focused,

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happier, healthier, you can do that,

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but if you wanna get in the higher practices,

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that results in running more energy through your body

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in a specific way, which creates, you know,

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but you know, in psychology, you know,

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they call it transcendent experience

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where you go someplace that, or in your mind,

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in yourself, wherever it is,

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and that's often time called a Kundalini experience,

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where a massive amount of energy erases up your spine,

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hits your brain, flies out of the top of your head

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and you go with it.

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Have you felt that?

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25, 30 years ago, I'd been studying with my teacher

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and like I told you, I was one of those guys,

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is like, man, it's technique, it's training hard,

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that's what, you know, and all that,

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but he was a very accomplished internal martial artist

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and I came across his book,

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Path Notes of an American Ninja Master.

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He studied Togakurun Impa, which is real ninja,

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and he was the direct student of Masaaki Hatsumi,

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who's the 34th Grand Master of the Togakurun Impo

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in the Bujinkan in Japan.

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so I read his book and I was like, you know what,

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this is, and at the time I was serving

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as a Eastern Orthodox priest and yeah,

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and I was, you know, and I went and I talked, you know,

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to my bishops and my spiritual and I said,

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yeah, just as long as you're not summoning demons,

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we don't care, you know, go for it, you know, kind of deal.

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And then I said, and I remember reading his book,

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I was like, you know what, all right,

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he said that he was like really meditating hard

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and he was doing this and so I started meditating

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and I started doing just the exercises

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that he had in the book.

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And then I started to feel even more things, right,

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things started to happen as a result of the practice.

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the internet was like the Compuserve days, you know,

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and I had to find him, I somehow tracked him down

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and found an email address attached to the Bujinkan

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and I emailed him and said, hey, I got your book

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and I've been doing the exercises and things are,

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and he started talking to me.

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It was really crazy, yeah, so that's how I,

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my first contacts, you know, with my teacher,

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we were through the internet and I started talking

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on the phone occasionally and he was always back and forth

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doing teaching all over the country

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and so when he'd come up to New York City and stuff,

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he'd give me a call and say, hey, I'm gonna be in town,

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do you wanna come train?

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And so I would, you know, and it just kind of went

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from there but with me, I was like, all right,

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he said in his book, all right,

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I'm gonna give this three months,

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I'm really gonna do it and I meditated constantly.

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You know, three months I went through the Kundalini,

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like boom, and that changed my perspective

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on the world, life, everything, irrevocably.

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Now you mentioned the meditation,

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I love hearing all that.

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It feels like, because I feel like personally

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there's something maybe I'm not in tuned with, you know?

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Like here recently, I'm more of a push past kind of guy,

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like all right, I'm hurting, let's keep going.

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You know, we gotta make the money, gotta raise these kids.

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Oh, you know, that's a Hoshin model, keep going.

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Yeah, well.

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Because endurance, you know, if this is,

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to use a Buddhist term, if it's your Dharma,

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in the West we call it, if it's your spiritual will,

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your true reason for being here.

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You're the thing that you can do that benefits you the most

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and everybody else around you,

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that's a good way of looking at it.

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Then you have to keep going, you have to have endurance.

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You don't stop.

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You know, no matter what comes up,

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whatever obstacles or challenges you find that face,

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that's okay, you keep going.

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Yeah, I had an Uber driver.

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And this is so crazy, all right.

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I had an Uber driver, me and Liz were in Colorado,

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she was doing a Comic Con.

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And so I was just loose in a city, you know?

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And so I was just kind of walking around.

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I like to do this thing where I just like urban,

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just walk, meet people, talk,

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and then just like wherever I'm at.

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Urban adventure, that's what I call it.

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So I just kind of put on a backpack and run out there

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and just kind of walk around the town

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if I'm new in there, you know?

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So like if I have a show in Lawton,

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I'll be like, when we go up there three hours early,

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kind of meet these people, you know?

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Go to a Whataburger, you know?

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Yeah, just love it.

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See if I can find some drugs.

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But we go up there and I called the Uber driver

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to take me to the Comic Con.

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And I was just like, hey, we're talking.

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And there's this question I like to ask some people

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whenever I meet them and I feel like they kind of,

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they're like, there's like a ping.

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I was like, I like this guy.

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Is there something about him?

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Or I like this person.

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And I always go, what's your main takeaway so far from life?

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Like, you've lived this far.

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If you could give one piece of information

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to somebody right before you go

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that you made it this far, what would it be?

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And he was like, keep moving forward.

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Don't stop.

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So I ran into this problem.

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I've been dealing with some health stuff.

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But that idea still resonates.

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It's like for some reason it's kind of like latched

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into my brain so when I get like down,

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I'll be like, keep moving.

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Just get up, keep moving.

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It's like, it almost feels effortless.

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It's like, oh, this is the right answer.

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It's just because it's some guy I met in an Uber.

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And then also I keep hearing it in the world.

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Some of our greatest lessons come from unexpected places

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and it can be the random offhand comments.

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Some of the things that really made a deep impression

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on me are just some kind of weird random conversation

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I had with a stranger who says the right thing

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at the right time.

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I love that.

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And with you saying it, again, it's like I heard it again.

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My wife told me I hear it in the Mastery Book too

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by Robert Greene.

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It seems like everywhere I'm going, it's telling me that.

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And it's like, I need it right now.

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Yeah, well, and that's, you know,

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when you start doing energy work, meditating,

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there's this thing that's called the shadow that pops up.

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And you know, and it's a pretty kitschy term these days,

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shadow work.

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And so one way is to look into what the shadow is,

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it's all your nonsense.

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You know, it's all the trauma, it's all the bad thinking,

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bad habits, bad habituations,

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on a practical, maybe psychological level,

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emotional problems that come up as a result

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of doing the energy work because our body

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and the various centers in our body store trauma

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and memories in our muscles and in various places,

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you start doing the energy work

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and starts flushing all that stuff out.

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And so it all bubbles up to your head

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and you start feeling these things.

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Because you know, the way in the West we deal with stuff

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is we just suppress it.

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We don't deal with it, ignore it.

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And people wonder why they're an emotional basket case

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the majority of the time.

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And we all have a really nice veneer going on,

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but everybody's like on the inside screaming,

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you know, because of everything.

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And they don't know why they're so stressed

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and tense and upset.

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I mean, Chi Kung for sure,

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but I know that what I know is like it helps you move

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the energy through your body and kind of move it around.

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I do a lot of meditation, mindfulness meditation,

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and there's a lot of it that I like to do

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is just focusing on different parts of the body,

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just still and stillness,

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but you're moving your concentration

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on different parts of your body.

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And you start to feel like,

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oh, there's something in my stomach.

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It's not like a stomach pain or some, you know, my legs.

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It's like, I think I carry a lot of stress

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in my legs personally.

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I don't know, I've never thought about that

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until recently, but it's like moving my legs

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helps me get stressed out less, you know.

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Or about any moving in,

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certainly with moving your body

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and doing different things definitely can help you

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on an emotional level that we don't realize.

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But certainly meditation is a part of that.

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But yeah.

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Well, I read from your teacher, his name is Glen Morris,

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PhD.

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I found some information that he wrote online.

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Yeah.

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That was really, it was kind of like this book

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that he put together with another guy.

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Where is it?

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Yeah, he had sent it to me.

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Yeah, Dr. Glen Morris, Wayne Oliver, and James Dow.

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Yeah, I know Wayne Oliver.

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He's a really cool guy.

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James, I might admit, I might not, but yeah.

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So they wrote this manual of information

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and it's basically how to get to the Kundalini.

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And what it had is it's really great intro

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of just like, hey, what is this?

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Yeah.

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And one of the things that it said was,

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the idea is to consolidate the health

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of the body, breath, and mind.

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Yeah.

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And then to remember that the body knows

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better than the mind.

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Mm-hmm.

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Right?

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And so it's kind of just tuning into the body.

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Yeah.

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And kind of keeping that.

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Learning how to feel it.

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If I'm wrong, all right.

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Keeping it in tune, keeping that pathway clear.

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Yeah, well, I think it's a great way of putting it

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is we tend to have a disconnect.

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We spend most of the time in our head

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and we don't pay attention to our body.

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We just assume it's there and it's gonna do what we want

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and we tend to ignore it.

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And so yeah, I mean, there's three places

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that you have to think about health.

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You have to take care of your body,

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which as a direct and the ancients understood

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that they might not have had the scientific knowledge

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that we have now, but they knew what they were talking about.

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So you get a lot of flowery language.

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It might come about seem a bit mystical.

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But really what they're doing is they're describing

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the energy in a very abstract way and how it works.

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But yeah, you have to start with the body

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because the idea is, and we hear this theory all the time,

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there's even some CIA papers that have been released

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talking about the idea that everything is somehow

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a fractal hologram that's reflected.

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And so the idea is the human body is a reflection

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of the greater universe and vice versa.

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And as a result, if you wanna, as a result,

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you first go into your body, get in touch with your body

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and start working on that mind-body connection

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and the health of the body, which then affects

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the health of the mind and back and forth,

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you get this feedback.

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But as a result of the practice and getting in touch

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with your body, you come to a deeper understanding

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not only of yourself, but also how the world

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at large around you works as well.

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Does that make sense?

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I think so.

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I mean, I just was doing something

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so I was halfway paying attention,

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but I love that whenever you said the mirror,

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it's like the reflection, because I think that's what a lot of,

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I think all the time about art in general,

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but it's like art is a reflection of ourselves

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that we create and put into the world.

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But there's something also I think a lot about

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is that every human is just a unique expression

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of the earth itself.

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So we're all a part, we're all one thing.

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We're all this globe of life and energy in the earth.

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And it's like, I don't know.

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Well, we're all a bunch of stardust.

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Traveling through the universe in a big spiral

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that's doing this, but somehow orbiting the sun

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and the sun's doing this too.

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I mean, it's crazy when you start thinking about it.

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We get so much energy from the sun

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and it's like we wouldn't be here without the sun at all.

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It's like the sun is so important to our existence.

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And I think that we don't, a lot of people do,

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I do certainly, but a lot of people don't think a lot

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about how important it is to get sunlight.

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It's like if you're trapped inside the house

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for so much, like many people have been

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in the past five years or three years.

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So a lot of people work from home now.

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Yeah, that, you know, it's like we're starting

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to change more into this society of indoor, you know,

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we don't need to go outside at all anymore.

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If we don't, you know, we do for our health, but like.

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Oh, I know people who avoid being outside.

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They go outside only if they have to.

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It's so important to get, to use the sun for what it is.

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And it's like, you know, helping us be healthier

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and be more of what we actually are, I think.

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It's funny, we even have an exercise

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in Hoshindal Qigong called,

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Crane Opens Wings, Look at Set Sun.

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Yeah.

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You know, one of the best places you can guess

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is to do it in the morning outside

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and while you're looking, you know, in the sunlight.

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There's something to that too.

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I mean, that's, you know, gotten more into like,

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I mean, scientific, like neuroscience and stuff

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about the sun and its effects on us in the morning

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and how it can trigger like cortisol release

516
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,580
and hormones and stuff that our natural body

517
00:21:55,580 --> 00:21:57,220
is supposed to do.

518
00:21:57,220 --> 00:21:59,620
Also helps regulate your circadian rhythm.

519
00:21:59,620 --> 00:22:01,560
You have like 10 minutes of sun in the morning

520
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,660
when you first wake up, just kind of be out in it.

521
00:22:04,660 --> 00:22:05,500
You know, yeah.

522
00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:08,040
That's something that I've focused a lot on,

523
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,280
you know, in the past year, but like it's interesting

524
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,340
that they probably never knew why that,

525
00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:17,080
or specifically why that technique you were talking about

526
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,280
was, but it's like, it does.

527
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,420
It helps you just set your day, I think.

528
00:22:23,420 --> 00:22:25,260
It helps you get those energy levels

529
00:22:25,260 --> 00:22:27,220
when you're supposed to.

530
00:22:27,220 --> 00:22:28,520
I don't know, I like it.

531
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,960
And all of this stuff too.

532
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,900
It's like meditations and all these things

533
00:22:31,900 --> 00:22:33,400
are like thousands of years old.

534
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,700
It's like these people have figured this stuff out

535
00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:36,860
a long time ago.

536
00:22:36,860 --> 00:22:41,600
Maybe not truly figured out why, but they have, you know.

537
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,840
Well, I kind of think they, when it comes down to it,

538
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,540
the really advanced practitioners, they knew why.

539
00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:49,880
Because they had experienced it, you know.

540
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,840
But at the same time, the way they expressed it

541
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,520
was different, you know.

542
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,860
And I think that's one of the things.

543
00:22:56,860 --> 00:22:59,320
And what's interesting is that these practices

544
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,160
are extremely old.

545
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,400
And from the anthropological evidence,

546
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,220
they think that the practice of qigong

547
00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:09,500
and the stuff could be anywhere from seven

548
00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:10,940
to 10,000 years old.

549
00:23:10,940 --> 00:23:13,640
So that's like, really?

550
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,140
That's prehistory?

551
00:23:15,140 --> 00:23:18,100
And that qigong comes from the shamanic practices

552
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:21,980
of the indigenous people in China.

553
00:23:21,980 --> 00:23:24,420
And so that's where they think that,

554
00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:26,620
because they found pottery and pots and stuff

555
00:23:26,620 --> 00:23:30,060
of people doing qigong that are that old.

556
00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:32,120
Yeah.

557
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:34,460
I think it's very interesting that you

558
00:23:34,460 --> 00:23:36,860
end up in the same place.

559
00:23:36,860 --> 00:23:40,820
Like, back then, it was listening to your body, right?

560
00:23:40,820 --> 00:23:42,400
Because I mean, well, there wasn't

561
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,860
a lot of distractions, you know?

562
00:23:43,860 --> 00:23:44,940
Maybe you do your work.

563
00:23:44,940 --> 00:23:45,740
You go hang out with your family.

564
00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:47,060
You do your thing.

565
00:23:47,060 --> 00:23:49,500
You're more in tune with maybe even the world around you,

566
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:51,500
because you're not just consuming without knowing

567
00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:53,180
where it's coming from.

568
00:23:53,180 --> 00:23:55,700
And so you kind of move through life

569
00:23:55,700 --> 00:24:00,480
with an understanding of where you are and where you come from.

570
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,780
And then you go, I think it's a little easier to go inside

571
00:24:03,780 --> 00:24:07,060
and kind of just feel what's going on in there

572
00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:09,620
and maybe be more in tune with your body.

573
00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:12,260
But they still found the same place that we're doing now,

574
00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:13,160
but with science.

575
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,420
It's like we're trying to prove them right.

576
00:24:16,420 --> 00:24:19,500
Yeah, and for so long, scientists, it was like, oh,

577
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:21,060
that's a bunch of poppycock.

578
00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:22,740
This is a bunch of nonsense.

579
00:24:22,740 --> 00:24:27,380
But then the scientific evidence started to mount.

580
00:24:27,380 --> 00:24:30,380
And that's one of the reasons what made my teacher Glenn

581
00:24:30,380 --> 00:24:34,740
so unique was that he had a PhD in psychology,

582
00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:38,460
a science doctorate in psychology.

583
00:24:38,460 --> 00:24:42,220
And then he had a doctorate in philosophy as well.

584
00:24:42,220 --> 00:24:44,260
And he was a college professor on top of it.

585
00:24:44,260 --> 00:24:46,540
He was also, for a while, the psychologist

586
00:24:46,540 --> 00:24:48,900
for General Motors.

587
00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:53,300
Yeah, so I mean, he was a big fan of the scientific method.

588
00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:57,620
And so he used that in refining the Hoshin system of Qigong.

589
00:24:57,620 --> 00:25:00,140
You know, he double-blind tests, you know,

590
00:25:00,140 --> 00:25:01,540
what exercise is really weird.

591
00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:03,260
Because there's a lot of exercises

592
00:25:03,260 --> 00:25:06,300
that made its way in the scrolls that are what I could call,

593
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:11,540
you know, for lack of a better word, filler exercises,

594
00:25:11,540 --> 00:25:14,940
something to kind of like holdering exercises that really

595
00:25:14,940 --> 00:25:16,460
aren't going to advance the student,

596
00:25:16,460 --> 00:25:19,060
but it's something for them to do and things like that.

597
00:25:19,060 --> 00:25:20,940
Well, Glenn was all about, I want

598
00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:23,100
to get rid of all that stuff.

599
00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:26,020
You know, and he wanted to give people a direct path

600
00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:29,940
to being healthier on all levels.

601
00:25:29,940 --> 00:25:33,940
And if they wanted to go for it and peek, you know,

602
00:25:33,940 --> 00:25:37,860
through the veil, so to speak, they had that to do as well.

603
00:25:37,860 --> 00:25:41,740
Qigong has often been called like Chinese yoga

604
00:25:41,740 --> 00:25:44,700
or Chinese Tantric yoga.

605
00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:47,220
And you know, so there's a correlation

606
00:25:47,220 --> 00:25:48,860
between Tantric Buddhism.

607
00:25:48,860 --> 00:25:52,540
And so it goes on and on and on, Tantric Hinduism.

608
00:25:52,540 --> 00:25:58,260
And he wanted to distill it and get rid of the language,

609
00:25:58,260 --> 00:26:00,620
not the fluffy language, but be able to present it

610
00:26:00,620 --> 00:26:04,700
in such a way that the Western mind could understand it

611
00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:08,100
and practice it and actually get something from it

612
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:09,860
instead of hitting that wall above.

613
00:26:09,860 --> 00:26:11,100
This is a bunch of nonsense.

614
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:12,060
Yeah.

615
00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:12,700
That's what I like.

616
00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:15,140
I think that it's something interesting a lot about

617
00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:19,420
with the more, you know, the scientific community looking

618
00:26:19,420 --> 00:26:20,020
at these things.

619
00:26:20,020 --> 00:26:23,380
And it's like people are now like refining them,

620
00:26:23,380 --> 00:26:25,900
making them even better because we do understand

621
00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:28,500
more of the chemical levels and the things that it

622
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,820
does to our brain and body.

623
00:26:30,820 --> 00:26:33,380
Well, you know, it's like just to talk about, you know,

624
00:26:33,380 --> 00:26:34,540
the science catching up.

625
00:26:34,540 --> 00:26:38,540
Me and Gwen Davis, who is from a different school,

626
00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:40,820
the Supreme Science School, we did together,

627
00:26:40,820 --> 00:26:43,220
we did a nine week intensive course

628
00:26:43,220 --> 00:26:48,060
on the correlation between modern science

629
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:53,140
and the mystical approach of Qigong and meditation.

630
00:26:53,140 --> 00:26:54,500
I delivered the mystical.

631
00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:58,020
She's a licensed therapist, you know, body therapist,

632
00:26:58,020 --> 00:26:59,180
and stuff like that.

633
00:26:59,180 --> 00:27:00,420
And she brought the science.

634
00:27:00,420 --> 00:27:02,500
And some of the interesting things about it

635
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:06,340
is like at every place where traditionally,

636
00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:10,860
like the so-called chakras are, there's a major nerve complex.

637
00:27:10,860 --> 00:27:14,780
Bundle of nerves that's doing a bunch of processing.

638
00:27:14,780 --> 00:27:18,620
And also, you know, in the system I teach,

639
00:27:18,620 --> 00:27:21,740
we say that there are three major energy systems,

640
00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:25,380
or I guess what you call generators, in our bodies.

641
00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:28,740
There's the hara, or the dan tian, which is your belly.

642
00:27:28,740 --> 00:27:31,460
There's the heart area, your chest, the heart chakra,

643
00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:33,260
if we're going to talk about the Hindu system.

644
00:27:33,260 --> 00:27:35,340
And then the third eye, or the Chinese

645
00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:37,900
call the crystal palus, which is the hypothalamus,

646
00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:39,540
pituitary complex.

647
00:27:39,540 --> 00:27:41,780
It sits right in the middle of your brain.

648
00:27:41,780 --> 00:27:44,620
Well, what's interesting is that gray matter

649
00:27:44,620 --> 00:27:49,260
runs between that complex, the heart complex, and the gut,

650
00:27:49,260 --> 00:27:51,780
and nowhere else in the body.

651
00:27:51,780 --> 00:27:54,340
And the ancients said you had three brains.

652
00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:57,020
And well, now the science is saying is that, well,

653
00:27:57,020 --> 00:27:59,740
you have gray matter in these three places.

654
00:27:59,740 --> 00:28:01,140
And nowhere else in the body.

655
00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:02,540
It's all connected.

656
00:28:02,540 --> 00:28:04,860
Also, a funny thing is, then you have

657
00:28:04,860 --> 00:28:08,380
seven major bundles of nerves that are doing,

658
00:28:08,380 --> 00:28:10,780
they're all connected to your brain,

659
00:28:10,780 --> 00:28:14,700
that are doing a bunch of processing, the three chakras.

660
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:16,260
And they all said, you know, that's

661
00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:19,340
part of your conscious structure, how you think.

662
00:28:19,340 --> 00:28:22,340
It's happening on all, your body's doing all this thinking.

663
00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:24,700
And they even found, and you can find,

664
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:26,260
I can't remember where it came from,

665
00:28:26,260 --> 00:28:28,420
but they found that organs, you know,

666
00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:30,780
like the five Yin organs and stuff like that,

667
00:28:30,780 --> 00:28:33,060
have way more nerves and stuff in them

668
00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:34,220
than they thought initially.

669
00:28:34,220 --> 00:28:36,500
And this was a study that was done decades ago.

670
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:38,220
And so they said it's really strange.

671
00:28:38,220 --> 00:28:39,860
We didn't realize there were so many nerves

672
00:28:39,860 --> 00:28:42,700
and so much processing going on in the organs.

673
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:45,980
It's almost like they're acting like independent brains.

674
00:28:45,980 --> 00:28:46,820
Nice, yeah.

675
00:28:46,820 --> 00:28:48,860
The gut affects your whole body.

676
00:28:48,860 --> 00:28:51,060
Oh yeah, your gut health gets off.

677
00:28:51,060 --> 00:28:52,500
Are you gonna start having all kinds of problems?

678
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:53,900
I created eating gluten.

679
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:54,740
Yeah.

680
00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:55,940
And it really like,

681
00:28:55,940 --> 00:28:56,780
Changed your life.

682
00:28:56,780 --> 00:29:00,300
Cleared my body from mixed signals it felt like.

683
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:01,140
Yeah.

684
00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:03,300
You know, cause I'm thinking, I was always kind of fighting

685
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,180
this weird battle in my butt where it's like,

686
00:29:05,180 --> 00:29:06,780
well, I couldn't get the right nutrition

687
00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:09,180
because my intestines were swollen.

688
00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:10,580
You know, and it was, you know,

689
00:29:10,580 --> 00:29:11,620
it was making things difficult.

690
00:29:11,620 --> 00:29:13,340
My stomach biome was messed up

691
00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:15,340
cause of the sugar and the gluten and you know,

692
00:29:15,340 --> 00:29:17,540
high sugar, high carbs.

693
00:29:17,540 --> 00:29:18,380
Yeah.

694
00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:19,660
And I feel like when I cleared that out,

695
00:29:19,660 --> 00:29:21,500
I could hear my body more.

696
00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:22,340
You know?

697
00:29:22,340 --> 00:29:24,300
I can hear, oh man, my stomach hurts.

698
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:25,940
It used to be like, well, it hurts all the time.

699
00:29:25,940 --> 00:29:26,780
Why would that be a thing?

700
00:29:26,780 --> 00:29:27,620
Yeah.

701
00:29:27,620 --> 00:29:28,580
It takes some time.

702
00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:29,980
Yeah, quit being a baby.

703
00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:31,780
You kind of have to clear out the cobwebs.

704
00:29:31,780 --> 00:29:32,620
That's what I think about,

705
00:29:32,620 --> 00:29:35,180
I mean, when I started doing mindfulness meditation,

706
00:29:35,180 --> 00:29:37,460
it's been, well, less than a year actually,

707
00:29:37,460 --> 00:29:41,140
but it was something for me, it was like,

708
00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:43,860
that and journaling too is some similar thing,

709
00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:46,500
but it's like, you're kind of clearing away all this junk

710
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:49,020
that you're, that's clogging your mind

711
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:50,860
and your emotions.

712
00:29:50,860 --> 00:29:52,660
And then it's like, once you do that

713
00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:54,380
and you learn to listen to your body,

714
00:29:54,380 --> 00:29:57,940
then you can, you know, see things clearer pretty much,

715
00:29:57,940 --> 00:29:58,900
I think.

716
00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:00,700
Well, when you eat better,

717
00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:01,900
maybe there's not as much static.

718
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:02,740
Right, yeah.

719
00:30:02,740 --> 00:30:03,580
Cause it's not fighting as much.

720
00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:04,940
It's kind of the cobwebs static,

721
00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:06,740
any kind of just nonsense that you don't need.

722
00:30:06,740 --> 00:30:07,820
That's been my experience.

723
00:30:07,820 --> 00:30:09,540
No, and you know, if you don't feel good,

724
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:10,460
if you have health problems,

725
00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:12,300
that affects your mental landscape

726
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:13,140
and how you view things,

727
00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:14,740
cause you don't feel good, you get grumpy,

728
00:30:14,740 --> 00:30:17,540
you get pissed off, you know, whatever.

729
00:30:17,540 --> 00:30:19,220
You know, you're not thinking straight.

730
00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:20,900
And you know, that's one of the things.

731
00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:23,860
So when we start, you know, it kind of brings me back

732
00:30:23,860 --> 00:30:24,820
to what you're talking about,

733
00:30:24,820 --> 00:30:28,700
the consolidation of the health, the mind and the breath.

734
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:29,980
And you know, what's interesting,

735
00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:32,500
and I could get into the metaphysics of that, you know,

736
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:35,020
yeah, well, you know, there's this thing

737
00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:36,340
called the three treasures,

738
00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:38,700
which is related to the three energy systems

739
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:39,620
I just referenced.

740
00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:42,220
And the, the horror is, you know,

741
00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:46,180
if we tie it to what's called the mother elements, water,

742
00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:49,260
and that happens to be where the water chakra is, by the way.

743
00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:50,900
Yeah, one of the, you know,

744
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:54,380
and that's the energy that creates the physical body.

745
00:30:54,380 --> 00:30:56,180
And that's what they call the Jingchi.

746
00:30:56,180 --> 00:30:58,540
That's the function of the divine feminine

747
00:30:58,540 --> 00:31:02,260
or the feminine principle, the yin gives form.

748
00:31:02,260 --> 00:31:05,420
And then fire is the brain, right?

749
00:31:05,420 --> 00:31:07,700
And that's considered to, you know,

750
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:09,420
that's our thinking process.

751
00:31:09,420 --> 00:31:12,860
A lot of people, a lot of religions or mystical systems

752
00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:17,100
say that that's kind of the seed of the soul, whatever.

753
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:18,340
And that's fire.

754
00:31:18,340 --> 00:31:22,660
Well, that's the father, the yang expression.

755
00:31:22,660 --> 00:31:24,700
Well, then you have the human, which is the heart.

756
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:27,220
The human treasure is found in the heart.

757
00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:28,820
That's where you experience that feeling

758
00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:30,620
of unconditional love.

759
00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:33,860
And most of our emotional feelings are processed,

760
00:31:33,860 --> 00:31:36,340
you know, we feel them very strongly in our chest,

761
00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:38,980
whether it's a good emotion or a bad emotion.

762
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:40,140
And that's the mercury.

763
00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:42,900
So that even ties or air in the Eastern system,

764
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:44,740
which in West would be mercury.

765
00:31:44,740 --> 00:31:47,460
So it's all in agreement, even like with Western hermeticism,

766
00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:48,860
which kind of blows my mind,

767
00:31:48,860 --> 00:31:50,660
the idea of the three mother elements

768
00:31:50,660 --> 00:31:53,460
and how they interact to create the five elements,

769
00:31:53,460 --> 00:31:55,860
which creates the entire physical world.

770
00:31:55,860 --> 00:31:58,620
What are the, so you said the five, I have a few things.

771
00:31:58,620 --> 00:32:02,300
I went to your YouTube and kind of went over a few things.

772
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:03,820
And one of the things you mentioned

773
00:32:03,820 --> 00:32:05,220
was the six perspectives.

774
00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:06,060
Yes.

775
00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:07,660
Yeah, and being childlike.

776
00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:08,500
Yeah.

777
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:11,140
And how does that fit into this?

778
00:32:11,140 --> 00:32:13,220
Well, it fits into it for one is that

779
00:32:13,220 --> 00:32:15,780
that's what I'm going to be sharing with everybody

780
00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:18,860
at World Tai Chi Day is I'm gonna share

781
00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:22,020
the six perspectives with everybody.

782
00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:25,020
And I'm gonna give a meditation on the six perspectives

783
00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:28,460
in the three energy centers.

784
00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:31,460
Now the six perspectives are very important

785
00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:34,500
in the sense that they help us to condition the energy

786
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:36,300
that we're cultivating and work with.

787
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:38,900
It also makes the shadow work that comes up

788
00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:40,620
a lot easier to deal with.

789
00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:44,100
Sokay, my teacher, used to say all the time

790
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:47,260
that to successfully navigate the shadow work

791
00:32:47,260 --> 00:32:50,500
that comes up is to engage in positive thinking.

792
00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:52,640
And so we're not talking about,

793
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:58,300
like affirmations or something necessarily

794
00:32:58,300 --> 00:32:59,460
if you wanna use those of course,

795
00:32:59,460 --> 00:33:01,220
but it's not to say I'm good enough,

796
00:33:01,220 --> 00:33:03,340
people like me, I'm nice.

797
00:33:03,340 --> 00:33:07,820
It's not that it's like cultivating a positive

798
00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:09,460
state of mind.

799
00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:12,420
And so the way that we go back to that is

800
00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:16,340
we invoke what's called the principle of child's mind.

801
00:33:16,340 --> 00:33:20,380
Takamatsu Sensei who is Hatsumi's Sokay

802
00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:24,500
who taught Hatsumi, who taught my teacher stuff.

803
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:28,500
He said that you should try to approach your life

804
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:31,140
and particularly your practice from the point of view

805
00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:33,020
of a three year old child.

806
00:33:33,020 --> 00:33:37,340
And the reason being is a three year old child

807
00:33:37,340 --> 00:33:41,540
has absolutely zero filters, no conditioning,

808
00:33:41,540 --> 00:33:44,500
sees the world exactly as it truly is.

809
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:46,980
They can see into the so called other realms

810
00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:47,900
all the way to source.

811
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:50,540
They're still just totally plugged in.

812
00:33:50,540 --> 00:33:51,980
They haven't been conditioned.

813
00:33:51,980 --> 00:33:54,460
They haven't been put into somebody training

814
00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:59,380
as Ram Dass would call it or hasn't been any trauma

815
00:33:59,380 --> 00:34:04,180
like abusive parents or society or school or other kids

816
00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:05,860
or social programming.

817
00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:06,820
These are the rules.

818
00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:08,100
This is how you think about it.

819
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:09,140
This is religion.

820
00:34:09,140 --> 00:34:11,580
There's none of that with a three year old child.

821
00:34:11,580 --> 00:34:13,340
They're just there.

822
00:34:13,340 --> 00:34:15,780
And what's interesting about that scientifically

823
00:34:15,780 --> 00:34:18,860
is that three year old children have way more

824
00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:20,980
neural synapses than we do.

825
00:34:20,980 --> 00:34:25,820
They process way more information than we do

826
00:34:25,820 --> 00:34:30,820
as we get older, as we reach the age of reason around seven

827
00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:34,220
during that process and because of experiences

828
00:34:34,220 --> 00:34:36,940
and program synaptic pruning takes place.

829
00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:39,820
And so you lose more and more synapses

830
00:34:39,820 --> 00:34:42,260
because you don't need that information anymore

831
00:34:42,260 --> 00:34:44,460
and you're trying to interact with this world.

832
00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:47,820
And so as you get older, you get cut off.

833
00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:49,740
And by the time you're seven,

834
00:34:49,740 --> 00:34:51,460
you're pretty much here in this realm.

835
00:34:51,460 --> 00:34:54,980
You're cut off from source, all seeing the angels

836
00:34:54,980 --> 00:34:57,300
and all that stuff that people write about being a kid,

837
00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:01,700
their visions, their way, that's all gone pretty much.

838
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:04,620
And so when we approach everything

839
00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:06,980
from the point of view of child's mind,

840
00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:08,300
what is a child?

841
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:09,780
A child has perspectives.

842
00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:13,260
There is perspective and that's where the six perspectives,

843
00:35:13,260 --> 00:35:17,900
the six perspectives of a three year old child are love,

844
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:22,900
kindness, courage, openness, gentleness and creativity.

845
00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:25,500
If you watch how a three year old runs through life,

846
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:28,100
that's exactly what it is.

847
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:30,300
They're very loving, they're kind

848
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:32,900
and they're absolutely courageous.

849
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:34,620
They have no concept of death.

850
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:37,100
They don't care if they live or die, you know,

851
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,580
and they can just deal with anything

852
00:35:39,580 --> 00:35:41,980
no matter how great or how horrible.

853
00:35:41,980 --> 00:35:45,740
And they're very open, they're gentle

854
00:35:45,740 --> 00:35:47,500
and they're very creative.

855
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:51,460
And so we try to cultivate, you know,

856
00:35:51,460 --> 00:35:53,860
these principles, these perspectives,

857
00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:55,580
because a lot of times you can find them in books

858
00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:58,660
and they're usually called laws or virtues or something.

859
00:35:58,660 --> 00:36:00,860
No, it's a perspective.

860
00:36:00,860 --> 00:36:03,660
It's a way that you filter, this is a filter

861
00:36:03,660 --> 00:36:07,860
that we're going to cultivate in how you look at

862
00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:10,940
and interact with the world and yourself.

863
00:36:10,940 --> 00:36:13,620
And so that's what we're gonna be doing at WorldTouch,

864
00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:16,380
at least what I'm gonna be sharing is the six perspectives

865
00:36:16,380 --> 00:36:19,580
and a meditation on that because when you start,

866
00:36:19,580 --> 00:36:23,580
this ties into consulting the health of the mind.

867
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:24,420
Yeah.

868
00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:26,460
Because through positive thinking,

869
00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:30,380
you know, along these lines, you slowly over time

870
00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:32,620
begin to change yourself in the way you view

871
00:36:32,620 --> 00:36:33,660
and approach the world.

872
00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:35,620
And it's a practice, people have to remember this,

873
00:36:35,620 --> 00:36:37,660
this isn't a religion, it's non-religious,

874
00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:39,660
it's a practice.

875
00:36:39,660 --> 00:36:42,660
You know, you try the ideas, I'm gonna think about these,

876
00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:46,660
I'm gonna meditate on them, I'm gonna try to express these

877
00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:48,180
in my day-to-day life.

878
00:36:48,180 --> 00:36:50,780
And over time, that begins to change you.

879
00:36:50,780 --> 00:36:52,940
And as a result, because you're changing,

880
00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:56,180
it's gonna change the way other people interact with you.

881
00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:57,380
Yeah, because you're changing,

882
00:36:57,380 --> 00:36:59,380
you're affecting the world around you too.

883
00:36:59,380 --> 00:37:01,380
I mean, that's something that, like I said,

884
00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:05,180
I mean, I started seriously like doing mindfulness meditations

885
00:37:05,180 --> 00:37:10,180
about last summer and it's like my life has changed dramatically.

886
00:37:10,180 --> 00:37:15,180
It's in that time, a lot because of how people interact with me

887
00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:17,180
because it's like, I don't know, it's just like,

888
00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:22,180
like you said, I mean, I'm doing things a little differently,

889
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:23,180
maybe not even that much differently,

890
00:37:23,180 --> 00:37:27,180
but enough to like make a big difference, I think.

891
00:37:27,180 --> 00:37:30,180
And it's just like, I mean, the opportunities that I have now,

892
00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:33,180
I think there are just stuff that I've always wanted

893
00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:37,180
and tried to go towards and then now it's,

894
00:37:37,180 --> 00:37:40,180
I feel like I'm starting to see things clearly,

895
00:37:40,180 --> 00:37:43,180
I can see what I need to do and get it done

896
00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:45,180
and not be, not stop myself.

897
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:50,180
I mean, there's so much of anxiety and self doubt and shame

898
00:37:50,180 --> 00:37:54,180
and all this stuff that I did a lot of work to get rid of.

899
00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:55,180
Yeah.

900
00:37:55,180 --> 00:37:57,180
And like you said too, it's a daily practice.

901
00:37:57,180 --> 00:38:00,180
I mean, if I usually, it's like these days,

902
00:38:00,180 --> 00:38:02,180
I don't meditate every day, almost every day.

903
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:04,180
I do five days a week at least.

904
00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:08,180
Weekends, I kind of don't need to as much though, I feel like it.

905
00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:11,180
But it's like whenever I need to, I do it.

906
00:38:11,180 --> 00:38:13,180
That's like I can tell too.

907
00:38:13,180 --> 00:38:16,180
It's like I need to sit down and it's like,

908
00:38:16,180 --> 00:38:18,180
when I start to get unfocused pretty much,

909
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:21,180
it's like when I start to lose focus, I'm like, something's off.

910
00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:23,180
I don't know what it is.

911
00:38:23,180 --> 00:38:26,180
So I just need to sit down and sit for half an hour or whatever

912
00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:30,180
and try to practice and do some kind of work.

913
00:38:30,180 --> 00:38:32,180
Well, that's what I love about Qigong is it's a practice

914
00:38:32,180 --> 00:38:36,180
that you weave into your daily life as you're doing stuff.

915
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:40,180
You know, whether you're working, driving a car.

916
00:38:40,180 --> 00:38:42,180
What's an example?

917
00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:46,180
Well, you know, a good example of, you know,

918
00:38:46,180 --> 00:38:49,180
is like I can do my baby's breath.

919
00:38:49,180 --> 00:38:51,180
At this point, I've made it my everyday breathing.

920
00:38:51,180 --> 00:38:53,180
You know, what's sometimes called belly breathing.

921
00:38:53,180 --> 00:38:56,180
You do when you're sitting and doing formal meditation

922
00:38:56,180 --> 00:38:57,180
or traditional meditation.

923
00:38:57,180 --> 00:39:00,180
It's called Zen breathing, Buddha breathing, belly breathing,

924
00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:02,180
Bella's breathing.

925
00:39:02,180 --> 00:39:04,180
We call it in our practice, baby's breath.

926
00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:07,180
It's actually how if you watch an infant breathe,

927
00:39:07,180 --> 00:39:08,180
they breathe from the belly.

928
00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:11,180
The belly gets real big and then they contract and it gets big.

929
00:39:11,180 --> 00:39:15,180
And that actually pulls more air down into the lungs.

930
00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:18,180
Another thing that you can do is like when you're walking around,

931
00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:21,180
keep the tip of your tongue touching the roof of your mouth.

932
00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:26,180
What that does is that engages on a scientific level.

933
00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:31,180
That engages with the parasympathetic nerve response,

934
00:39:31,180 --> 00:39:36,180
which creates a feeling of safety and calmness.

935
00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:40,180
And on an energetic level, that connects.

936
00:39:40,180 --> 00:39:44,180
You have two major what you call energy channels that run up the front

937
00:39:44,180 --> 00:39:47,180
and the back of the body by touching the tip of your tongue,

938
00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:49,180
the roof of your mouth.

939
00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:52,180
That connects those two and that makes it possible for you to ground.

940
00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:55,180
So if you're running energy, doing Qigong or whatever,

941
00:39:55,180 --> 00:39:58,180
the Chinese, there's actually a proverb that says,

942
00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:00,180
don't cook your brain.

943
00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:03,180
So by touching the tip of your tongue on the roof of your mouth,

944
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:08,180
that gives the energy a place to go and ground out through your feet

945
00:40:08,180 --> 00:40:09,180
and out your hands.

946
00:40:09,180 --> 00:40:12,180
You're feeling like maybe I'm a little stopped up up here.

947
00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:15,180
Let me kind of take a moment.

948
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:21,180
I love the idea of practice, this idea of giving your...

949
00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:26,180
I think this comes from being of the childlike mind,

950
00:40:26,180 --> 00:40:29,180
but it's like it almost feels...

951
00:40:29,180 --> 00:40:35,180
Something I did with comedy versus music is I kind of put a lot of bad habits

952
00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:37,180
around music.

953
00:40:37,180 --> 00:40:40,180
I wrote a song about it, it's called Bad Habits.

954
00:40:40,180 --> 00:41:08,180
Yeah, it was like...

955
00:41:08,180 --> 00:41:18,180
You know, it flows as taking on bad habits,

956
00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:21,180
trying to find my way or something like that.

957
00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:23,180
Was that what that was about?

958
00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:26,180
Taking on bad habits tonight, if you've seen the truth, let me know.

959
00:41:26,180 --> 00:41:29,180
Mine was hung up in...

960
00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:34,180
I still have it, like I have a hard time writing, not as much anymore,

961
00:41:34,180 --> 00:41:37,180
but writing lyrics because I was afraid of not doing well

962
00:41:37,180 --> 00:41:39,180
or creating a song line.

963
00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:43,180
But in order to get to the places, like you're saying, you have to be free.

964
00:41:43,180 --> 00:41:47,180
You have to be free of fear and you have to have this kind of attitude of play,

965
00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:49,180
which comes from the term practice.

966
00:41:49,180 --> 00:41:52,180
This idea of coming to this, we're just practicing.

967
00:41:52,180 --> 00:41:53,180
Yeah, it's no big deal.

968
00:41:53,180 --> 00:41:55,180
If we mess up, it's just practice.

969
00:41:55,180 --> 00:42:00,180
And if everything is practiced for the next thing, then nothing really matters.

970
00:42:00,180 --> 00:42:04,180
I think I look at meditation for me, it is a bit of a practice,

971
00:42:04,180 --> 00:42:08,180
but it's like, and they teach this too, but it's like you're sitting

972
00:42:08,180 --> 00:42:14,180
and making yourself calm so that whenever you're in a real state of stress

973
00:42:14,180 --> 00:42:19,180
where you might need to do something quickly and think on your feet, you can.

974
00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:24,180
Well, the thing is and something else is that if you've done the practice,

975
00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:28,180
from a martial arts perspective, we call that fighting from the void.

976
00:42:28,180 --> 00:42:33,180
In other words, you just respond appropriately to whatever the situation is.

977
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:36,180
And you don't even have to think about it.

978
00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:38,180
Well, that's my experience with comedy now.

979
00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:41,180
Instead, I was like, I'm not going to give myself fear.

980
00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:43,180
This is supposed to be for fun.

981
00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:45,180
I'm going to live the rest of my life.

982
00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:48,180
And I put it like this, I'm an electrician, I'm a dad.

983
00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:51,180
This has to be fun or I'm not doing it.

984
00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:53,180
Well, that's a good way to approach anything.

985
00:42:53,180 --> 00:43:00,180
I remember when Seema, my wife, Ophelia, she's the Seema of the dojo.

986
00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:04,180
And we can get into terminology some other time.

987
00:43:04,180 --> 00:43:09,180
So I really appreciate her support with this because she's been a measurable help

988
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:12,180
even though she's super busy with her art and everything.

989
00:43:12,180 --> 00:43:17,180
But she helps out and she practices alongside me and all that.

990
00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:21,180
And it's pretty darn cool is that I remember when we first got together,

991
00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:26,180
I was like, as long as this was fun, I'm down.

992
00:43:26,180 --> 00:43:29,180
And we were both kind of saying that's a good way to, you know,

993
00:43:29,180 --> 00:43:32,180
it doesn't mean that you're not going to have problems, you're not going to have disagreements,

994
00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:37,180
but you know, there's got to be that love and there needs to be a sense of adventure and play

995
00:43:37,180 --> 00:43:40,180
no matter how mundane your life is.

996
00:43:40,180 --> 00:43:44,180
And I think that's really important, you know, playing.

997
00:43:44,180 --> 00:43:51,180
They've shown that if people are playing, there's a feeling of play to it

998
00:43:51,180 --> 00:43:55,180
that they learn quicker and they progress faster.

999
00:43:55,180 --> 00:44:00,180
It's the one thing that Mahoshan Mato, there's a second part to it that I didn't share.

1000
00:44:00,180 --> 00:44:03,180
It's keep going, keep playing.

1001
00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:05,180
Exclamation points on both of them.

1002
00:44:05,180 --> 00:44:08,180
I'm writing that down. I want to tattoo it on my arm.

1003
00:44:08,180 --> 00:44:12,180
All I can say about comedy is I look at comedy,

1004
00:44:12,180 --> 00:44:18,180
stand-up comedy is the difference between music too is that like music,

1005
00:44:18,180 --> 00:44:22,180
you sit in a rehearsal space or whatever with your band or by yourself even,

1006
00:44:22,180 --> 00:44:25,180
but you rehearse the songs and you practice by yourself.

1007
00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:26,180
That's how you get better.

1008
00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:28,180
And then you go to the show and that's the show.

1009
00:44:28,180 --> 00:44:32,180
It needs to be good, you know, it needs to be well practiced.

1010
00:44:32,180 --> 00:44:34,180
Comedy is not really like that.

1011
00:44:34,180 --> 00:44:37,180
Comedy is you get up on stage, that's where you're practicing.

1012
00:44:37,180 --> 00:44:40,180
That's where you can't do it in a room by yourself.

1013
00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:45,180
You have to do it in front of people to get better at it and to learn how to even learn how to get better at it

1014
00:44:45,180 --> 00:44:49,180
because it's an interaction with the audience.

1015
00:44:49,180 --> 00:44:53,180
And so maybe that could be what I just thought of whenever you were talking about that,

1016
00:44:53,180 --> 00:45:00,180
but it's completely different in the mindset of whenever you go on stage versus music and comedy for you,

1017
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:04,180
I'm sure it's like you're going to getting up there to play and practice

1018
00:45:04,180 --> 00:45:07,180
and not to like, oh, I've got to play these songs.

1019
00:45:07,180 --> 00:45:10,180
I got to remember all these lyrics and do all this stuff.

1020
00:45:10,180 --> 00:45:13,180
There's a certain amount, there's something I learned along the way.

1021
00:45:13,180 --> 00:45:16,180
Again, because I like I told myself I'm going to build good habits around this.

1022
00:45:16,180 --> 00:45:22,180
And it was don't worry about the outcome as soon as you start worrying, good or bad.

1023
00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:25,180
As soon as you start worrying about the outcome, then you have an expectation

1024
00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:30,180
and that expectation can be dashed and that kills your freedom on stage because you're not free.

1025
00:45:30,180 --> 00:45:36,180
And the void that you're talking about, if I get it right, I can tell myself it doesn't matter.

1026
00:45:36,180 --> 00:45:40,180
You get up here and your goal is to make these people laugh.

1027
00:45:40,180 --> 00:45:42,180
Now, if I have prepared stuff that works, great.

1028
00:45:42,180 --> 00:45:44,180
But if it's not, then we got to figure something out.

1029
00:45:44,180 --> 00:45:46,180
It's just like in a conversation.

1030
00:45:46,180 --> 00:45:48,180
Like I want to make this person laugh.

1031
00:45:48,180 --> 00:45:49,180
I don't mean to.

1032
00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:51,180
I'm just really good at it because I've had to in my life.

1033
00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:53,180
This is what we did in my house.

1034
00:45:53,180 --> 00:45:55,180
That's what you learn to survive.

1035
00:45:55,180 --> 00:45:59,180
But whenever I'm going good, I'm not even thinking.

1036
00:45:59,180 --> 00:46:01,180
I'm just there with them.

1037
00:46:01,180 --> 00:46:06,180
And that's dashed as soon as I start going, I hope I do good.

1038
00:46:06,180 --> 00:46:07,180
I hope I do this.

1039
00:46:07,180 --> 00:46:09,180
I want to be better than that guy.

1040
00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:12,180
It's like, well, then you're not at service to the thing that you're doing,

1041
00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:14,180
which is making them laugh.

1042
00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:15,180
That's the goal.

1043
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:16,180
Right?

1044
00:46:16,180 --> 00:46:17,180
Yeah.

1045
00:46:17,180 --> 00:46:19,180
The purpose, something similar to what you said.

1046
00:46:19,180 --> 00:46:20,180
You don't feel good.

1047
00:46:20,180 --> 00:46:23,180
Or at a certain point, you were clogged up and you were out here making moves.

1048
00:46:23,180 --> 00:46:26,180
And then you don't feel like you really changed anything of yourself.

1049
00:46:26,180 --> 00:46:30,180
But from the place that you're coming from, the purpose, like you're in a better place.

1050
00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:37,180
Your actions, how you speak and how you talk to people are just even so slightly more better.

1051
00:46:37,180 --> 00:46:39,180
And so that's what I try to do.

1052
00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:41,180
And then now with my music, I'll do it.

1053
00:46:41,180 --> 00:46:42,180
I'll have any judgment.

1054
00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:43,180
I'll sing in my house.

1055
00:46:43,180 --> 00:46:45,180
I used to be kind of nervous about singing in my house.

1056
00:46:45,180 --> 00:46:46,180
What do you think I'm doing?

1057
00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:47,180
You know what I'm saying?

1058
00:46:47,180 --> 00:46:48,180
Do my kids.

1059
00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:49,180
Yeah.

1060
00:46:49,180 --> 00:46:51,180
Obviously, this is like eight, seven, eight years back.

1061
00:46:51,180 --> 00:46:52,180
Yeah.

1062
00:46:52,180 --> 00:46:53,180
But she was a baby.

1063
00:46:53,180 --> 00:46:54,180
She didn't go, remember?

1064
00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:56,180
You know, like you just go and then now my kids sing.

1065
00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:57,180
It's a beautiful place to be.

1066
00:46:57,180 --> 00:46:58,180
They join in.

1067
00:46:58,180 --> 00:47:00,180
They see you sing before.

1068
00:47:00,180 --> 00:47:01,180
They probably didn't.

1069
00:47:01,180 --> 00:47:02,180
I sing the wrong words.

1070
00:47:02,180 --> 00:47:04,180
They think it's OK to sing the wrong words.

1071
00:47:04,180 --> 00:47:05,180
Yeah.

1072
00:47:05,180 --> 00:47:06,180
Yeah, well, and it is.

1073
00:47:06,180 --> 00:47:07,180
Yeah.

1074
00:47:07,180 --> 00:47:08,180
Yeah, you know?

1075
00:47:08,180 --> 00:47:09,180
And that's the funny thing about it.

1076
00:47:09,180 --> 00:47:14,660
I can identify with what you're saying is I remember I felt like there was a big impasse

1077
00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:17,580
when I was writing music.

1078
00:47:17,580 --> 00:47:21,380
But you know what changed it all is the minute I started liking my music.

1079
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:22,380
I love it.

1080
00:47:22,380 --> 00:47:23,380
Yeah.

1081
00:47:23,380 --> 00:47:26,540
Instead of tearing it apart and writing trying, well, are other people going to like this?

1082
00:47:26,540 --> 00:47:27,540
Yeah.

1083
00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:29,500
Now, I started writing things that I liked.

1084
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:30,720
And I liked it.

1085
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:33,260
And I was happy with the way I was playing and stuff.

1086
00:47:33,260 --> 00:47:34,740
And then guess what happened?

1087
00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:36,300
It came through.

1088
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:37,300
Everybody else liked it.

1089
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:38,300
Yeah.

1090
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:39,300
Yeah, they can see.

1091
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:40,300
And they can.

1092
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:44,820
I think people, whenever you do stuff for yourself in any art form, I think that whenever

1093
00:47:44,820 --> 00:47:49,620
you're making it for yourself and not for what other people might want, then people

1094
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:50,620
see that.

1095
00:47:50,620 --> 00:47:53,820
And then even if they don't like it, they see your passion.

1096
00:47:53,820 --> 00:47:57,060
They're like, well, he clearly really likes what he's doing.

1097
00:47:57,060 --> 00:48:02,220
So they appreciate it in some level, at least if they don't like it.

1098
00:48:02,220 --> 00:48:05,580
Also, I think that, too, you can see the joy on someone's face.

1099
00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:08,900
And then you're automatically going to feel that joy, I think.

1100
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:09,900
And you can feel it.

1101
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:15,380
You can tell the, if we want to stay on music, you can tell the artist or the musician or

1102
00:48:15,380 --> 00:48:19,220
whatever that's trying too hard or doesn't believe in themselves or whatever.

1103
00:48:19,220 --> 00:48:24,980
I think one of the greatest lessons I ever got was going and playing festivals and having

1104
00:48:24,980 --> 00:48:29,140
dudes come up and say, hey, man, we got a set.

1105
00:48:29,140 --> 00:48:30,140
You want to play?

1106
00:48:30,140 --> 00:48:31,140
Yeah.

1107
00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:32,140
You want to sit in?

1108
00:48:32,140 --> 00:48:34,460
And of course, it's like, oh, God, these guys are really good.

1109
00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:36,260
I don't think I'm on their level.

1110
00:48:36,260 --> 00:48:41,300
But doing that taught me how to improv and we had some great sets.

1111
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:46,640
But then what was really cool was I was living out on Festivalland, which happened to be

1112
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,140
Indian Holy Land.

1113
00:48:48,140 --> 00:48:50,500
And there was an old shaman that lived out there.

1114
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:53,580
And I got to study and practice with him.

1115
00:48:53,580 --> 00:48:54,900
And he's a weird cat.

1116
00:48:54,900 --> 00:49:01,740
He's a visual artist, but he works in every medium, sculpture, painting, carving wood,

1117
00:49:01,740 --> 00:49:02,740
metal.

1118
00:49:02,740 --> 00:49:08,860
And then he can play any instrument, but he's not a musician, has never taken a lesson.

1119
00:49:08,860 --> 00:49:17,460
And so I would hang out with him and his wife and we'd do shamanic things together and he'd

1120
00:49:17,460 --> 00:49:18,500
teach me.

1121
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:22,740
And then we'd just start recording music that went with the ritual.

1122
00:49:22,740 --> 00:49:27,020
And then the next thing you know, you had albums that were being just put out with all

1123
00:49:27,020 --> 00:49:30,340
the orange media and the stuff that was all emergent.

1124
00:49:30,340 --> 00:49:32,540
There was no practice involved.

1125
00:49:32,540 --> 00:49:38,220
There was no, okay, no progressions, no improvisational progressions that we're going to utilize is

1126
00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:42,220
literally do the ritual, hit the button and start recording.

1127
00:49:42,220 --> 00:49:47,780
And whatever came out with everybody that was involved is what came out.

1128
00:49:47,780 --> 00:49:50,580
No overdubbing, nothing like that.

1129
00:49:50,580 --> 00:49:51,580
Just pure expression.

1130
00:49:51,580 --> 00:49:52,580
Yeah.

1131
00:49:52,580 --> 00:49:56,260
There's a, if you wanted to check that kind of project out, there's a series of videos

1132
00:49:56,260 --> 00:49:58,940
that go with it and you can find them on YouTube.

1133
00:49:58,940 --> 00:50:01,540
It's called Hit Machine and it's on Bandcamp.

1134
00:50:01,540 --> 00:50:10,020
All that stuff is one pass, recorded live, totally emergent, no patterns, no nothing.

1135
00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:15,380
And you'll kind of, and it's, and it kind of really catches that, that shamanic vibe.

1136
00:50:15,380 --> 00:50:16,460
It's like it was done.

1137
00:50:16,460 --> 00:50:22,420
It's you know, shamanic journey is what's going on in those albums.

1138
00:50:22,420 --> 00:50:24,140
And it's pretty, so you might enjoy that.

1139
00:50:24,140 --> 00:50:25,140
Yeah.

1140
00:50:25,140 --> 00:50:29,860
I love that, you know, something that I've read, I mean that you can, they used to do

1141
00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:33,580
drum circles, right, they still do, but they were different back then, obviously, because

1142
00:50:33,580 --> 00:50:34,580
that was their entertainment.

1143
00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:35,580
But like they were doing drums.

1144
00:50:35,580 --> 00:50:38,220
It was much more involved, more prominent.

1145
00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:39,220
That was the night.

1146
00:50:39,220 --> 00:50:40,220
Yeah.

1147
00:50:40,220 --> 00:50:43,220
So you're doing drum circles and there were people dancing, right, and people playing

1148
00:50:43,220 --> 00:50:45,300
different things, but nobody knew what was going on.

1149
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:46,300
Yeah.

1150
00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:49,620
So you would just play and the drums would affect the people and the people would affect

1151
00:50:49,620 --> 00:50:50,620
the drums.

1152
00:50:50,620 --> 00:50:51,620
Yeah, exactly.

1153
00:50:51,620 --> 00:50:52,620
It's kind of like, I'm on the same.

1154
00:50:52,620 --> 00:50:58,060
Yeah, we had, we talked to him last week and it was something that he does is like that

1155
00:50:58,060 --> 00:51:03,140
kind of interaction with the crowd and kind of vibing off of, I mean, it's any kind of

1156
00:51:03,140 --> 00:51:05,700
DJ I think, which was interesting to learn about.

1157
00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:11,820
It's like, if you're a club DJ, you're playing music and seeing how the crowd responds to

1158
00:51:11,820 --> 00:51:12,820
what you're playing.

1159
00:51:12,820 --> 00:51:15,300
And then you make decisions based on that.

1160
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:16,300
So fascinating.

1161
00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:23,660
And I think that what I really love about that idea is that it becomes less of scales,

1162
00:51:23,660 --> 00:51:28,660
progressions, in theory, in theory, and more of like, what can I do?

1163
00:51:28,660 --> 00:51:29,660
Right.

1164
00:51:29,660 --> 00:51:30,660
I can do three chords.

1165
00:51:30,660 --> 00:51:31,660
I think the key.

1166
00:51:31,660 --> 00:51:34,700
You know, and then you do the three chords and go, well, let me see what I can do with

1167
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:36,060
this to affect these people.

1168
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:40,060
And then how they react is like, oh, they liked D and D minor together.

1169
00:51:40,060 --> 00:51:41,060
Yeah.

1170
00:51:41,060 --> 00:51:42,060
Let me kind of, all right, we keep going back and forth.

1171
00:51:42,060 --> 00:51:43,060
They're like, yeah, you can see them moving.

1172
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:44,060
And then what do you do next?

1173
00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:45,060
You go, oh, okay.

1174
00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:51,940
And so the play, the interaction with the world is in how well you are with your, how

1175
00:51:51,940 --> 00:51:53,220
in tune you are with your instrument.

1176
00:51:53,220 --> 00:51:58,500
How much you can represent what's in your head quickly becomes, even if you can only

1177
00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:01,380
talk that language slowly, you can still affect the room.

1178
00:52:01,380 --> 00:52:02,380
Oh yeah.

1179
00:52:02,380 --> 00:52:03,380
You know?

1180
00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:04,380
I mean, yeah.

1181
00:52:04,380 --> 00:52:05,380
Even if you know only a couple of chords.

1182
00:52:05,380 --> 00:52:06,380
You can play badly.

1183
00:52:06,380 --> 00:52:07,380
That's still affecting the room.

1184
00:52:07,380 --> 00:52:08,380
Yeah, that's true.

1185
00:52:08,380 --> 00:52:09,380
Oh yeah.

1186
00:52:09,380 --> 00:52:13,460
And it's all about being intentional about it.

1187
00:52:13,460 --> 00:52:15,060
You know, how do I want to move these people?

1188
00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:18,220
And learning how to get better at it, how to affect them.

1189
00:52:18,220 --> 00:52:19,580
I mean, I think it's just a-

1190
00:52:19,580 --> 00:52:21,580
And your music filtered through your perspectives.

1191
00:52:21,580 --> 00:52:22,580
Yeah, exactly.

1192
00:52:22,580 --> 00:52:23,580
Yeah.

1193
00:52:23,580 --> 00:52:24,580
Yeah.

1194
00:52:24,580 --> 00:52:28,300
But I mean, a few curiosities I had was the meditation.

1195
00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:29,300
Yes.

1196
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:33,860
You started doing your meditation and you opened this book and you're starting to learn.

1197
00:52:33,860 --> 00:52:38,100
And then versus now your meditation, what would you suggest for someone?

1198
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:41,460
Because the problem with me is I like the idea of meditation, but I feel like I get

1199
00:52:41,460 --> 00:52:43,060
there with writing.

1200
00:52:43,060 --> 00:52:44,060
Yeah.

1201
00:52:44,060 --> 00:52:46,660
Because I'll shut my brain off and tell myself, just go with your hand.

1202
00:52:46,660 --> 00:52:49,700
I don't even want to hear the communication that's happened between these two.

1203
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:50,700
I just want it to go.

1204
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:51,700
Yeah.

1205
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:55,340
So that's how Mysoke wrote his books.

1206
00:52:55,340 --> 00:52:56,580
Oh really?

1207
00:52:56,580 --> 00:52:58,460
Yeah, he automatically wrote them.

1208
00:52:58,460 --> 00:52:59,460
He didn't think about it.

1209
00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:01,460
He just wrote them.

1210
00:53:01,460 --> 00:53:04,460
And then we'd go back through and edit them.

1211
00:53:04,460 --> 00:53:07,540
He might have just would start writing.

1212
00:53:07,540 --> 00:53:09,620
That's how he did all of his books.

1213
00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:13,340
And that clear, and when I get that out, I see something more than what I even-

1214
00:53:13,340 --> 00:53:14,340
Yeah.

1215
00:53:14,340 --> 00:53:15,340
It's tough.

1216
00:53:15,340 --> 00:53:16,340
Because you know what you're saying?

1217
00:53:16,340 --> 00:53:17,820
When you ruminate, you're like, oh, this one thing.

1218
00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:18,820
And then you see it and you're like, oh no, it's not.

1219
00:53:18,820 --> 00:53:19,820
Look at all this other stuff.

1220
00:53:19,820 --> 00:53:20,820
It's so great.

1221
00:53:20,820 --> 00:53:21,820
Yeah.

1222
00:53:21,820 --> 00:53:25,980
Well, getting trapped up in your mind, that's kind of a form of shadow work.

1223
00:53:25,980 --> 00:53:31,700
I shared this with the class is I have one of the things I do is because I'm trying to

1224
00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:39,180
get this out to as many people as possible is for $5 a month, people can be a member

1225
00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:47,540
of the dojo and they can either zoom in and livestream the class with us and practice

1226
00:53:47,540 --> 00:53:51,060
with whoever's actually at the dojo in real time.

1227
00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:56,820
But also those videos are available for them to go back and review over the past month

1228
00:53:56,820 --> 00:54:01,100
and practice with it, take notes, do whatever they need to do with it.

1229
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:05,780
Then we also all talk about various topics related to Qigong.

1230
00:54:05,780 --> 00:54:15,820
And I think that being able to have the information available is one of the biggest things because

1231
00:54:15,820 --> 00:54:21,420
everybody's really busy, so it might not always be practical to be at the dojo of the sun

1232
00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:25,420
and moon at 7 15 every Thursday for a public class.

1233
00:54:25,420 --> 00:54:32,420
But what you can do is practice when you can and the video of the real classes right there.

1234
00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:35,860
Or if they can only make it once a month and you can catch up with the other ones.

1235
00:54:35,860 --> 00:54:36,860
Yeah.

1236
00:54:36,860 --> 00:54:40,100
Well, you can keep going, regardless of what your situation is.

1237
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:41,100
Right.

1238
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:42,100
You can't make it every week.

1239
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:44,980
Where can they go to get the videos and donate?

1240
00:54:44,980 --> 00:54:49,580
Well, go to the Patreon.

1241
00:54:49,580 --> 00:54:52,980
And we have a Facebook page, Dojo of the Sun and Moon.

1242
00:54:52,980 --> 00:54:57,900
We also have a private group which is open to the public.

1243
00:54:57,900 --> 00:55:00,900
That information is there to the Patreon.

1244
00:55:00,900 --> 00:55:04,260
Information's disseminated through that.

1245
00:55:04,260 --> 00:55:05,460
And there's all kinds of options.

1246
00:55:05,460 --> 00:55:11,820
If somebody wants to systematically study and become a recognized student, we would

1247
00:55:11,820 --> 00:55:17,240
call a recognized or a formally, a formal student of the system.

1248
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:18,980
They can do that.

1249
00:55:18,980 --> 00:55:20,580
Or in that, the cost more.

1250
00:55:20,580 --> 00:55:25,820
Or if they want to be a direct student and have a personalized curriculum and one-on-ones,

1251
00:55:25,820 --> 00:55:29,860
private one-on-ones with me and that sort of thing, then there's that option as well.

1252
00:55:29,860 --> 00:55:34,860
Different levels of commitments or what you can do.

1253
00:55:34,860 --> 00:55:37,940
So we're pretty, you know, we're on Patreon, Dojo of the Sun and Moon.

1254
00:55:37,940 --> 00:55:39,860
We're on Facebook, Dojo of the Sun and Moon.

1255
00:55:39,860 --> 00:55:41,500
We're located in Oklahoma City.

1256
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:43,780
So we're pretty easy to find.

1257
00:55:43,780 --> 00:55:46,940
One of the cornerstones that I saw was this idea of giving it.

1258
00:55:46,940 --> 00:55:48,620
Yeah, making it available.

1259
00:55:48,620 --> 00:55:50,500
You like donations, that'd be nice.

1260
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:52,660
But mostly it's making it available to everyone in the world.

1261
00:55:52,660 --> 00:55:54,860
Yeah, because you can show up, right, every Thursday.

1262
00:55:54,860 --> 00:56:00,260
I mean, you can go to the class and pay what you can if you just...

1263
00:56:00,260 --> 00:56:01,260
Yeah.

1264
00:56:01,260 --> 00:56:04,260
Yeah, we have a little donation basket.

1265
00:56:04,260 --> 00:56:08,440
And if you want to throw something in there, please, by all means.

1266
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,780
And there's no minimum suggested donation.

1267
00:56:10,780 --> 00:56:13,860
It's just if you want to throw five in, fine.

1268
00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:15,900
If you want to throw 20 in, whatever.

1269
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:21,860
Because that operates on what's known as the principle of geisha, which is spelled in English

1270
00:56:21,860 --> 00:56:26,780
G-I-S-H-A, kind of like geisha, but it's not to be confused.

1271
00:56:26,780 --> 00:56:28,220
And it has the idea.

1272
00:56:28,220 --> 00:56:32,140
And that principle translates into English as pay what you can.

1273
00:56:32,140 --> 00:56:34,940
The idea is I'm putting this out there.

1274
00:56:34,940 --> 00:56:36,640
The universe is going to take care of it.

1275
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,460
If I'm doing something of value that's helping somebody, then they will give back what they

1276
00:56:41,460 --> 00:56:42,460
can.

1277
00:56:42,460 --> 00:56:43,780
It kind of has the idea of appropriate return.

1278
00:56:43,780 --> 00:56:44,780
Yeah.

1279
00:56:44,780 --> 00:56:46,260
You know, it's kind of...

1280
00:56:46,260 --> 00:56:48,460
So that's the idea behind it.

1281
00:56:48,460 --> 00:56:54,180
And the important thing is everybody, regardless of their circumstances, if they want self-healing

1282
00:56:54,180 --> 00:57:00,180
and they want to work on changing themselves for the better, fancy word, personal transformation,

1283
00:57:00,180 --> 00:57:04,420
if they want to go deeper and get into the mystical side, then it's available to anybody

1284
00:57:04,420 --> 00:57:05,780
who wants to do it.

1285
00:57:05,780 --> 00:57:06,780
That's great.

1286
00:57:06,780 --> 00:57:08,180
You know, so I love it.

1287
00:57:08,180 --> 00:57:09,180
Yeah.

1288
00:57:09,180 --> 00:57:13,580
I like this idea you're talking about because that's kind of what I do with, I think this

1289
00:57:13,580 --> 00:57:17,540
podcast and my photography, I mean, that's something I've been struggling with or at

1290
00:57:17,540 --> 00:57:21,940
least trying to figure out how to transition to actually monetize it better.

1291
00:57:21,940 --> 00:57:25,020
But it's like, I think that it's also, I'm still practicing it too.

1292
00:57:25,020 --> 00:57:30,660
I think that it's like a kind of a system or process I'm going through with that.

1293
00:57:30,660 --> 00:57:36,100
Yeah, it's like, I think that whenever you do stuff for people and you don't ask for

1294
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:41,260
anything in return, it's like, what's the natural response for that person?

1295
00:57:41,260 --> 00:57:43,060
They're going to want to do something for you too.

1296
00:57:43,060 --> 00:57:46,780
I mean, that's just the way that we are, I think, as humans.

1297
00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:49,460
So it's such a fascinating way to operate.

1298
00:57:49,460 --> 00:57:55,020
I think it's like you were saying, if you give something, you're offering a valuable

1299
00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:57,220
service of any kind.

1300
00:57:57,220 --> 00:58:00,700
The universe is going to repay you, I think, in some way.

1301
00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:05,540
And I like this idea too, because it's some people maybe want to come to your dojo and

1302
00:58:05,540 --> 00:58:07,340
learn this stuff and just they're broke.

1303
00:58:07,340 --> 00:58:11,700
They just are struggling to get anywhere financially.

1304
00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:14,820
But then so they can go there and still maybe not pay anything.

1305
00:58:14,820 --> 00:58:21,460
But then the other people that have our well off, maybe throw in extra, you know, helps

1306
00:58:21,460 --> 00:58:22,980
cover that person.

1307
00:58:22,980 --> 00:58:29,420
Yeah, and that makes me think of some of these people, you know, the whole point purpose

1308
00:58:29,420 --> 00:58:37,460
of a dojo is on one level, it's there to challenge the individual to help them grow in a positive

1309
00:58:37,460 --> 00:58:39,020
way.

1310
00:58:39,020 --> 00:58:43,420
On a societal level, it's about building community and it's run on a family based system.

1311
00:58:43,420 --> 00:58:46,220
In Hoshindal Qigong, there aren't any ranks.

1312
00:58:46,220 --> 00:58:49,980
You know, you're not white belt, you get yellow belt, you don't go through with the Q ranks

1313
00:58:49,980 --> 00:58:51,980
and then the various degrees of black belt.

1314
00:58:51,980 --> 00:58:53,380
There's none of that.

1315
00:58:53,380 --> 00:58:59,380
It's run off, you know, what they would be called a dojo or a quun system and it's a

1316
00:58:59,380 --> 00:59:00,380
family term.

1317
00:59:00,380 --> 00:59:06,340
The term sifu is just kind of an honorific that means like honored father, because the

1318
00:59:06,340 --> 00:59:11,140
idea is that everybody in the dojo is family, brothers and sisters.

1319
00:59:11,140 --> 00:59:18,380
The sensei, to use a Japanese word and not a Chinese one, is kind of like the dad.

1320
00:59:18,380 --> 00:59:20,940
Sensei literally means one who's gone before, you know.

1321
00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:25,020
So the sifu is somebody who's been entrusted with this information and so he's kind of

1322
00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:26,820
like dad.

1323
00:59:26,820 --> 00:59:31,540
His wife is called Sima, you know, so that's the one I refer to, I feel you that way, even

1324
00:59:31,540 --> 00:59:37,220
though she's been practicing Qigong for a year, but she's the Sima of the dojo and so

1325
00:59:37,220 --> 00:59:41,460
it's kind of like this whole family interaction gets going because then what happens is that

1326
00:59:41,460 --> 00:59:47,340
starts building community right there in the dojo and you start taking that out, you know,

1327
00:59:47,340 --> 00:59:51,820
you take those six perspectives, you take those five positive emotions which you haven't

1328
00:59:51,820 --> 00:59:57,500
talked about, you know, and stuff and you try to change yourself, have you embody those,

1329
00:59:57,500 --> 01:00:03,020
have that energy, get really in tune with the energy of these ideas and concepts and

1330
01:00:03,020 --> 01:00:07,260
then that goes out in the world and, you know, so building community, building something

1331
01:00:07,260 --> 01:00:08,260
positive and...

1332
01:00:08,260 --> 01:00:11,580
You know you're planting seeds and seeing them grow in real life.

1333
01:00:11,580 --> 01:00:17,300
Yeah, and in yourself and as a result, you know, a good mood or a bad mood is contagious

1334
01:00:17,300 --> 01:00:22,620
believe me, you know, and a good perspective or a bad perspective is contagious.

1335
01:00:22,620 --> 01:00:29,060
Yeah, so there is something I found from Glen Morris that I thought was really good and

1336
01:00:29,060 --> 01:00:31,060
appropriate for this month.

1337
01:00:31,060 --> 01:00:36,220
I kind of figured we'd get into this, but in that packet, like I said, it's online,

1338
01:00:36,220 --> 01:00:38,100
it's at Scribd, I've never heard of it before.

1339
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:41,620
I don't know, it's probably something that's been pirated or put it up, you know, Glen

1340
01:00:41,620 --> 01:00:43,620
died on April Fool's Day.

1341
01:00:43,620 --> 01:00:44,620
Really?

1342
01:00:44,620 --> 01:00:47,260
Yeah, you know, it's, yeah, yeah, he died.

1343
01:00:47,260 --> 01:00:53,740
I had a hard time accepting the fact that he had died and this was back in 2005, I believe.

1344
01:00:53,740 --> 01:00:58,460
He's been gone for about 20 years now and it was really devastating because he was healthy

1345
01:00:58,460 --> 01:01:06,340
and nobody was expecting it, you know, and he, you know, kind of, and there was a lot

1346
01:01:06,340 --> 01:01:11,540
of chaos that ensued as a result because, you know, I won't get into that kind of stuff,

1347
01:01:11,540 --> 01:01:16,540
but it was very hard on everybody who was close to him when he passed because what he

1348
01:01:16,540 --> 01:01:22,540
gave me, and I was young when I was training under him and I really didn't understand it.

1349
01:01:22,540 --> 01:01:28,540
And you had asked me, you know, my understanding of the practice is much deeper as a result

1350
01:01:28,540 --> 01:01:36,540
of keeping going and, you know, it was always there, you know, has literally saved my life

1351
01:01:36,540 --> 01:01:38,700
over and over and over again.

1352
01:01:38,700 --> 01:01:43,860
I'm not just talking about the martial arts that I learned from him or those kinds of

1353
01:01:43,860 --> 01:01:49,500
friends, it was just like saving my sanity, not being, I mean, we've all talked about

1354
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:53,100
there's like this drain underneath this man and you get too close to it, it tries to suck

1355
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:58,540
you down, you know, and you can always feel that pull.

1356
01:01:58,540 --> 01:02:03,780
You know, the pull upwards is a little bit more subtle and you have to pay attention

1357
01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:05,380
to it and want it.

1358
01:02:05,380 --> 01:02:10,620
This kind of way and I think that, yeah, I mean, but it just really literally saved my

1359
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:16,100
life, probably kept me out of getting into bad, you know, going down that drain, making

1360
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:17,100
that bad decision.

1361
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:18,900
Do you know what I mean?

1362
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:23,460
Especially playing music, you know how crazy it is out there, dude.

1363
01:02:23,460 --> 01:02:27,180
I cannot remember, I cannot tell you how, and you probably knew all these cats too,

1364
01:02:27,180 --> 01:02:30,620
just passed away, accidentally killed themselves with heroin and stuff.

1365
01:02:30,620 --> 01:02:34,460
I went out to the desert and I come back and all these people are gone that I knew who

1366
01:02:34,460 --> 01:02:39,300
are really great musicians because apparently now there's a heroin epidemic in Oklahoma

1367
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:41,020
City again.

1368
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:42,020
Oh, this is recently.

1369
01:02:42,020 --> 01:02:43,860
No, this is back when I got back.

1370
01:02:43,860 --> 01:02:45,660
You know, this was a while back.

1371
01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:46,660
Back in 2014.

1372
01:02:46,660 --> 01:02:51,940
Yeah, the 2014, you know, that, yeah, about then I think is about when I got back from

1373
01:02:51,940 --> 01:02:52,940
the desert.

1374
01:02:52,940 --> 01:02:53,940
Yeah.

1375
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:54,940
Yeah.

1376
01:02:54,940 --> 01:02:56,620
I remember, I know that fentanyl is the whole thing now.

1377
01:02:56,620 --> 01:02:57,620
And that's the new thing.

1378
01:02:57,620 --> 01:02:58,620
Good God.

1379
01:02:58,620 --> 01:02:59,620
It's been a while.

1380
01:02:59,620 --> 01:03:03,460
But like, I didn't really realize about the heroin problem here back then, because I guess

1381
01:03:03,460 --> 01:03:07,900
we had got, we stopped playing, our group was over in 2012.

1382
01:03:07,900 --> 01:03:09,460
So, I mean, that was...

1383
01:03:09,460 --> 01:03:12,740
I had a few friends that we kind of fell off the music.

1384
01:03:12,740 --> 01:03:15,220
You know, and I was raising kids and stuff.

1385
01:03:15,220 --> 01:03:19,660
So it's like, you kind of, but I like this, there's this idea of like this idea of being

1386
01:03:19,660 --> 01:03:25,220
a dad and, you know, and seeing and basically planting these seeds and hope, seeing them

1387
01:03:25,220 --> 01:03:27,500
grow and guiding, you know?

1388
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:28,500
Yeah.

1389
01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:32,780
And the idea that now you can kind of go back and look at that time where you had your Sifu

1390
01:03:32,780 --> 01:03:36,900
and you were like, oh man, I didn't even know what he was teaching me.

1391
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:40,700
And now that you're older with the experience of being in the same position, you're like,

1392
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:41,700
oh, I see it.

1393
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:43,420
And then now you can give it.

1394
01:03:43,420 --> 01:03:44,420
Yeah.

1395
01:03:44,420 --> 01:03:49,140
Well, and because back then, you know, I was really wanted to be a bad-ass martial artist

1396
01:03:49,140 --> 01:03:55,980
and I was more worried about, you know, getting, you know, stripes on my black belt.

1397
01:03:55,980 --> 01:03:58,900
That's what I wanted, you know?

1398
01:03:58,900 --> 01:04:03,860
And Glenn was always, he used the internal martial arts to bring people into the healing

1399
01:04:03,860 --> 01:04:05,420
and energy side of it.

1400
01:04:05,420 --> 01:04:10,860
I mean, that's what he was always focused on with me and I could never quite understand

1401
01:04:10,860 --> 01:04:16,820
why it was almost kind of like he was trying to push me away from that.

1402
01:04:16,820 --> 01:04:21,700
And so instead of sending me to the Bujinkan to train, he sent me to the Chinese, you know,

1403
01:04:21,700 --> 01:04:29,660
where I learned Gong style Xingyi Bagua and learned a lot of really, really interesting

1404
01:04:29,660 --> 01:04:35,700
and deep, you know, Qi Gong practices that you're not going to get elsewhere maybe, you

1405
01:04:35,700 --> 01:04:36,700
know?

1406
01:04:36,700 --> 01:04:41,580
And then at all of a sudden, but once I had done enough shadow work, it all of a sudden

1407
01:04:41,580 --> 01:04:43,060
clicked and I got it.

1408
01:04:43,060 --> 01:04:44,540
You know what I mean?

1409
01:04:44,540 --> 01:04:45,540
Yeah.

1410
01:04:45,540 --> 01:04:47,100
And that's really what it was.

1411
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:51,140
I had a lot of work to do and he'd given me what's called my blue belt work.

1412
01:04:51,140 --> 01:04:57,340
And that was, he felt that for the survival of the art, that it was really necessary to

1413
01:04:57,340 --> 01:05:05,100
be able to interpret and express Ho Shin from a Western mysteries perspective, aka Western

1414
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:06,100
Hermeticism.

1415
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:07,100
Yeah.

1416
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:12,860
And so that was my work to do and it was pretty, and so I finally got that all done, you know,

1417
01:05:12,860 --> 01:05:13,860
and all that.

1418
01:05:13,860 --> 01:05:19,140
And so that's where the Dojo of the Sun and Moon comes from was just from my blue belt

1419
01:05:19,140 --> 01:05:22,820
work that he wanted me to do this.

1420
01:05:22,820 --> 01:05:28,780
And because he felt that it was absolutely necessary that if the artist survived, and

1421
01:05:28,780 --> 01:05:33,420
he was also a big fan of, he wanted to verify and always if this is truth, if what we're

1422
01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:40,100
teaching really helps people, you know, his scientific mind is, well, can do the Western

1423
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:43,080
systems agree with what we're doing here?

1424
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,260
Or is there an impasse we need to know?

1425
01:05:45,260 --> 01:05:50,800
And you having been a priest and being an initiate into the Western mysteries, he wanted

1426
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:57,780
me to do that work because I served up until his death from 2000 to 2006, I served as the

1427
01:05:57,780 --> 01:05:59,340
chaplain of the room.

1428
01:05:59,340 --> 01:06:04,140
We're non-religious, but you know, I was more like an advisor, people having counseling,

1429
01:06:04,140 --> 01:06:07,860
they're having cheese sickness, what's called cheese sickness, they're doing the higher

1430
01:06:07,860 --> 01:06:12,300
practices and they're running a lot of energy and they start vomiting and stuff from the

1431
01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:15,180
energy, you know, so I deal with that kind of stuff.

1432
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:16,940
So that's what I did as the chaplain.

1433
01:06:16,940 --> 01:06:17,940
But anyway.

1434
01:06:17,940 --> 01:06:20,940
Do you mind if I read this real quick?

1435
01:06:20,940 --> 01:06:21,940
Yeah, please.

1436
01:06:21,940 --> 01:06:22,940
I'm sorry for getting off on a tangent.

1437
01:06:22,940 --> 01:06:23,940
No, no, no.

1438
01:06:23,940 --> 01:06:26,580
I think it's great because this is kind of what he was talking about.

1439
01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:31,900
I think, and this is an intro and what I found, I don't know if it was a book or anything,

1440
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:36,980
but it's introduction, Glen Morris, as the years go by, most of what amazed me in the

1441
01:06:36,980 --> 01:06:39,500
beginning strikes me as parlor tricks.

1442
01:06:39,500 --> 01:06:46,100
Now, the experience of energy works, changes your perspective and perceptions over time.

1443
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:51,900
The experience of a Godhead becomes a so what in comparison to raising your children and

1444
01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:53,700
keeping your career afloat.

1445
01:06:53,700 --> 01:06:57,860
I can't say going through the Kundalani has brought me any joy.

1446
01:06:57,860 --> 01:07:03,540
Most of my students and accidental impregnation have been interesting experiences.

1447
01:07:03,540 --> 01:07:09,180
I am too curious and analytical a personality to be able to ride the waves of bliss forever.

1448
01:07:09,180 --> 01:07:13,300
Perhaps that is a good thing, as so much is written from a secondhand experience, which

1449
01:07:13,300 --> 01:07:16,060
often reports opinion as fact.

1450
01:07:16,060 --> 01:07:21,020
The psychological problems of being more aware are painful if you desire positive outcomes

1451
01:07:21,020 --> 01:07:23,300
and rewards for your existence.

1452
01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:28,260
There are many well-meaning, wrong thinking, egocentric individuals who will go out of

1453
01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:32,900
their way to attempt to denigrate your experience or defame your character.

1454
01:07:32,900 --> 01:07:36,900
They suck up time and prevent you from working expediently.

1455
01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:40,320
There are times when I long for monastic life.

1456
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,500
It becomes very important to consider some of the magic and mythological applications

1457
01:07:44,500 --> 01:07:46,500
of subtle energy.

1458
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:48,860
God helps those who help themselves.

1459
01:07:48,860 --> 01:07:53,460
The major reason I formulated a scientific set of exercises to replicate my own experience

1460
01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:56,020
was I was lonely.

1461
01:07:56,020 --> 01:07:59,300
I didn't have anyone to play with except Hatsumi-san.

1462
01:07:59,300 --> 01:08:04,700
Now I have a bunch of buddies and more that I have developed through reading and experimenting

1463
01:08:04,700 --> 01:08:06,860
on their own.

1464
01:08:06,860 --> 01:08:07,860
It's a beautiful sentiment.

1465
01:08:07,860 --> 01:08:08,860
Yeah, yeah.

1466
01:08:08,860 --> 01:08:11,860
I hear the baby bird from you.

1467
01:08:11,860 --> 01:08:12,860
Yeah, yeah.

1468
01:08:12,860 --> 01:08:14,780
I didn't really think about it.

1469
01:08:14,780 --> 01:08:15,780
Yeah, because it was...

1470
01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:16,780
Yeah.

1471
01:08:16,780 --> 01:08:17,780
You know, yes.

1472
01:08:17,780 --> 01:08:18,780
Yeah.

1473
01:08:18,780 --> 01:08:24,140
I was thinking about whenever you said that he saw something in you, I think he saw what

1474
01:08:24,140 --> 01:08:26,780
you needed to be before you ever knew it.

1475
01:08:26,780 --> 01:08:32,260
And that puts you on that path to open this dojo and do what you're doing now.

1476
01:08:32,260 --> 01:08:35,380
Yeah, I guess.

1477
01:08:35,380 --> 01:08:39,860
That ties into this concept of geary.

1478
01:08:39,860 --> 01:08:45,180
Geary means roughly, once again, I love Japanese because you can have one word, but it's a

1479
01:08:45,180 --> 01:08:49,220
whole concept that you can write a book on if you want to.

1480
01:08:49,220 --> 01:08:53,580
But geary means dutiful obligation.

1481
01:08:53,580 --> 01:08:56,420
You acquire dutiful obligation.

1482
01:08:56,420 --> 01:08:57,420
That's G-I-R-I.

1483
01:08:57,420 --> 01:09:01,300
I see you're getting ready to make that up.

1484
01:09:01,300 --> 01:09:03,340
It's my first day.

1485
01:09:03,340 --> 01:09:05,140
Geary is dutiful obligation.

1486
01:09:05,140 --> 01:09:12,300
In other words, it's an obligation, a debt that I accumulate because what I was given

1487
01:09:12,300 --> 01:09:18,140
is something that I could never pay back and I would not have gotten it on my own.

1488
01:09:18,140 --> 01:09:23,420
I wouldn't have found it just reading books or doing my own thing.

1489
01:09:23,420 --> 01:09:28,500
And like I said, what he gave me literally changed me and it saved my life.

1490
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:33,460
I could never pay him back in a million lifetimes for what he gave me.

1491
01:09:33,460 --> 01:09:37,620
And so out of geary, he writes in one of his books, how do you solve your problems?

1492
01:09:37,620 --> 01:09:38,620
Geary.

1493
01:09:38,620 --> 01:09:44,260
And I didn't get it back then, but because of what he gave me, I didn't even understand.

1494
01:09:44,260 --> 01:09:50,900
He'd given me the ability to do certain things, had given me some certifications, and I didn't

1495
01:09:50,900 --> 01:09:53,300
even really pay attention at the time when he gave me.

1496
01:09:53,300 --> 01:09:57,900
Once again, I was focused on martial arts and kicking ass.

1497
01:09:57,900 --> 01:10:03,620
And then all of a sudden, how do I, I started realizing what's really important is to be

1498
01:10:03,620 --> 01:10:08,940
of service, kind of be open and just like be of service.

1499
01:10:08,940 --> 01:10:16,500
And I was given something that literally saved me and I have, and it's real.

1500
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:22,420
And then the way I got back into this is there was an event, something happened where somebody

1501
01:10:22,420 --> 01:10:28,540
was in serious distress, was on the floor lying down, shaking and freaking out.

1502
01:10:28,540 --> 01:10:33,260
And I had to use my qigong and the healing that I had learned through methods through

1503
01:10:33,260 --> 01:10:39,160
my soke and the teachers that he sent me to work with to help them.

1504
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,880
And as a result, people started asking me to teach again.

1505
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:42,880
And then I got the message.

1506
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,340
It was like, oh, then it all clicked.

1507
01:10:45,340 --> 01:10:50,980
It was like, so I opened up the, made the dojo public and started doing this out of

1508
01:10:50,980 --> 01:10:56,660
gear, you know, because, and so if I figure I can help one person, then it's all worth

1509
01:10:56,660 --> 01:10:57,660
it.

1510
01:10:57,660 --> 01:10:58,660
I love that idea.

1511
01:10:58,660 --> 01:11:03,140
It comes with the idea of like putting into your community, giving it something, giving

1512
01:11:03,140 --> 01:11:04,940
it your skill because you can't offer anything.

1513
01:11:04,940 --> 01:11:10,620
I think, I think that offering money is a lower form of helping.

1514
01:11:10,620 --> 01:11:11,620
Yeah.

1515
01:11:11,620 --> 01:11:13,580
It's like the easy way out.

1516
01:11:13,580 --> 01:11:15,260
Well, I don't want to say that.

1517
01:11:15,260 --> 01:11:16,260
I don't have the time.

1518
01:11:16,260 --> 01:11:17,940
I'm going to do, I mean, I'm going to try and help you out.

1519
01:11:17,940 --> 01:11:20,900
I think it's, it's important, but it's easy to just, okay, here's a month.

1520
01:11:20,900 --> 01:11:21,900
Yeah.

1521
01:11:21,900 --> 01:11:22,900
Yeah.

1522
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:23,900
You don't have to do anything.

1523
01:11:23,900 --> 01:11:24,900
Yeah.

1524
01:11:24,900 --> 01:11:28,940
What we give attention to, gross.

1525
01:11:28,940 --> 01:11:31,980
What is the opposite of love?

1526
01:11:31,980 --> 01:11:32,980
It's not hate.

1527
01:11:32,980 --> 01:11:35,020
It's ignorant or neglect.

1528
01:11:35,020 --> 01:11:38,380
Yeah, basically it's indifference.

1529
01:11:38,380 --> 01:11:39,380
Yeah.

1530
01:11:39,380 --> 01:11:40,380
Indifference.

1531
01:11:40,380 --> 01:11:43,380
And this idea of giving your skills to a grown community, that community gets something out

1532
01:11:43,380 --> 01:11:46,540
of it, but then you do as well by the effect that you have.

1533
01:11:46,540 --> 01:11:51,220
I think that, I think that, let me say it again, I'm sorry.

1534
01:11:51,220 --> 01:11:53,220
I have a terrible memory.

1535
01:11:53,220 --> 01:11:59,100
Glenn, Glenn Morris, I think maybe you feel like it's a dutyful, obviously a dutyful obligation,

1536
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:05,180
but I don't, I mean, from my perspective, it looks like you gave him a buddy to play

1537
01:12:05,180 --> 01:12:06,180
with.

1538
01:12:06,180 --> 01:12:07,180
And he did.

1539
01:12:07,180 --> 01:12:08,180
Yeah.

1540
01:12:08,180 --> 01:12:12,600
And so, and he, and what he gave you was a better understanding for the world.

1541
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,700
And so there is, I think you did pay him back.

1542
01:12:15,700 --> 01:12:20,260
I think you paid him back every time you showed up and you were interested and he wasn't alone

1543
01:12:20,260 --> 01:12:21,260
in his research.

1544
01:12:21,260 --> 01:12:26,940
Oh, he had a lot of students, you know, man, and came back for me, you know, he traveled

1545
01:12:26,940 --> 01:12:27,940
all over the place.

1546
01:12:27,940 --> 01:12:28,940
And he still came to you.

1547
01:12:28,940 --> 01:12:29,940
Yeah.

1548
01:12:29,940 --> 01:12:33,340
Yeah, well, you know, I went to him, you know, the funny thing is he lived right in Louisiana,

1549
01:12:33,340 --> 01:12:35,340
you know, at the end of his life.

1550
01:12:35,340 --> 01:12:36,340
Yeah.

1551
01:12:36,340 --> 01:12:41,860
So, but yeah, I know what you mean as far as, as far as I know what he gave me, what

1552
01:12:41,860 --> 01:12:45,220
he taught me, what he passed on, the energy.

1553
01:12:45,220 --> 01:12:49,380
You know, there's this whole idea of transmission that you hear in Buddha circles and meditation

1554
01:12:49,380 --> 01:12:54,420
circles and in Western mysteries, initiations is what they're called in the West.

1555
01:12:54,420 --> 01:12:58,500
And you know, it's that energy that, you know, they pass on.

1556
01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:02,500
If I hadn't gotten around him, if he didn't want to play with me, then I wouldn't have

1557
01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:03,500
gotten it.

1558
01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:04,500
Right.

1559
01:13:04,500 --> 01:13:07,280
You know, but it was the fact that he took the time and loved me enough, even though

1560
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:12,000
I didn't love myself or didn't even understand what that really meant.

1561
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:19,340
You know what I mean is, is priceless, you know, and the fact of it, you know, for somebody

1562
01:13:19,340 --> 01:13:24,300
can't believe that I'm pushing 60, you know, always look good for your age.

1563
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:25,300
Yeah.

1564
01:13:25,300 --> 01:13:28,940
You know, and it's like, I'm telling you, it's the Qigong and, and you were telling

1565
01:13:28,940 --> 01:13:29,940
us this when we were younger.

1566
01:13:29,940 --> 01:13:30,940
Yeah.

1567
01:13:30,940 --> 01:13:31,940
I got something here.

1568
01:13:31,940 --> 01:13:32,940
I was like, yeah, but I've got these drugs.

1569
01:13:32,940 --> 01:13:33,940
Alcohol.

1570
01:13:33,940 --> 01:13:34,940
That's pretty good.

1571
01:13:34,940 --> 01:13:35,940
Yeah.

1572
01:13:35,940 --> 01:13:41,180
But now I'm starting to see, I like, now as an older person, obviously, and coming into

1573
01:13:41,180 --> 01:13:45,980
things, I'm like, uh, I, I touch this again.

1574
01:13:45,980 --> 01:13:49,820
Now this time in my life, we had to talk to you, but it's like, oh my God, this hits,

1575
01:13:49,820 --> 01:13:50,820
you know?

1576
01:13:50,820 --> 01:13:53,780
And maybe like you said before, sometimes you just gotta be ready.

1577
01:13:53,780 --> 01:13:54,780
Yeah.

1578
01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:55,780
Yeah.

1579
01:13:55,780 --> 01:13:56,780
This is not the right time.

1580
01:13:56,780 --> 01:14:00,900
Cause I think that too, I mean, you know, similar to what we, I think we've been saying

1581
01:14:00,900 --> 01:14:04,460
too, it's like, we don't pay attention to so many things in the world.

1582
01:14:04,460 --> 01:14:08,980
And I think what you're talking about, whenever you start seeing the same message over and

1583
01:14:08,980 --> 01:14:13,780
over, I think it's your body's looking for that in a way too, whenever you start to see

1584
01:14:13,780 --> 01:14:14,780
things like that.

1585
01:14:14,780 --> 01:14:18,260
But I mean, that's something that you need and it's like something that you don't even

1586
01:14:18,260 --> 01:14:19,260
know you need.

1587
01:14:19,260 --> 01:14:23,420
Well, synchronicities, but the universe will talk back to you.

1588
01:14:23,420 --> 01:14:25,300
I believe highly in that.

1589
01:14:25,300 --> 01:14:29,940
I think that, and it's something with synchronicity too, that I thought a lot about, especially

1590
01:14:29,940 --> 01:14:36,180
the, over the past pandemic years, whenever I was inside and it's like, if you stay inside,

1591
01:14:36,180 --> 01:14:38,060
that can almost never happen.

1592
01:14:38,060 --> 01:14:42,020
You know, it's like, if you stay in the house, you have to put yourself in the world.

1593
01:14:42,020 --> 01:14:45,420
You have anything happen to you.

1594
01:14:45,420 --> 01:14:47,060
So it's a, well, guess what?

1595
01:14:47,060 --> 01:14:48,620
Even if you're in your house, you're in the world.

1596
01:14:48,620 --> 01:14:49,620
Yeah.

1597
01:14:49,620 --> 01:14:51,860
It's not taking advantage of the beauty that's surrounding you.

1598
01:14:51,860 --> 01:14:54,060
I think that, you know, something could happen.

1599
01:14:54,060 --> 01:14:57,220
So you could come across something on the internet and it could change you.

1600
01:14:57,220 --> 01:15:02,940
But like interaction with people, I think it's the most important thing with getting

1601
01:15:02,940 --> 01:15:04,820
those kinds of things.

1602
01:15:04,820 --> 01:15:10,020
And I think that our bodies, like our bodies go into the world and it's picking up so much

1603
01:15:10,020 --> 01:15:15,580
information that our brain is never, you know, we couldn't even possibly comprehend or we

1604
01:15:15,580 --> 01:15:20,860
do, but not consciously comprehend everything and all the information that we take in.

1605
01:15:20,860 --> 01:15:21,860
Yeah.

1606
01:15:21,860 --> 01:15:25,780
Well, getting into what I call the science, you know, calls it the subconscious.

1607
01:15:25,780 --> 01:15:29,820
I call it the unconscious mind because you're not conscious of what it's doing.

1608
01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:32,260
It knows everything that's going on.

1609
01:15:32,260 --> 01:15:37,740
And that's one of the reasons why I'm getting ready to do a six week intensive course on

1610
01:15:37,740 --> 01:15:39,860
what I call the journey to Dalmos cave.

1611
01:15:39,860 --> 01:15:45,880
It's a very powerful exercises that creates an interface, a way for you to interact and

1612
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,740
talk to your subconscious mind.

1613
01:15:48,740 --> 01:15:53,040
You know, so that's part of the health of the mind thing that you were talking about.

1614
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,140
We take care of the health of the body.

1615
01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:57,860
There's all kinds of ways you do it.

1616
01:15:57,860 --> 01:16:02,020
And we take care of the emotions, the heart, you know, because you're emotional.

1617
01:16:02,020 --> 01:16:03,580
And then we also take care of the mind.

1618
01:16:03,580 --> 01:16:10,380
Well, understanding yourself is being able to go deeper into these levels of consciousness

1619
01:16:10,380 --> 01:16:15,300
that from our perspective are down below us, but they're actually the ones that are running

1620
01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:16,300
the show.

1621
01:16:16,300 --> 01:16:17,300
Right.

1622
01:16:17,300 --> 01:16:18,300
Yeah.

1623
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:19,300
You're just kind of riding the wave.

1624
01:16:19,300 --> 01:16:20,300
Yeah.

1625
01:16:20,300 --> 01:16:21,300
Yeah.

1626
01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:22,300
You're not even steering the boat.

1627
01:16:22,300 --> 01:16:25,060
You're just up there like, man, I'm in control.

1628
01:16:25,060 --> 01:16:26,060
And then somebody else is driving.

1629
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:28,060
You're like, yeah, I'm sure you are, buddy.

1630
01:16:28,060 --> 01:16:29,060
Yeah, exactly.

1631
01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:35,180
So, you know, and that results in, you know, a deeper understanding of yourself and greater

1632
01:16:35,180 --> 01:16:40,260
creativity and all kinds of stuff when you start touching that kind of thing.

1633
01:16:40,260 --> 01:16:44,640
Because what's interesting is the cave exercise, you know, a lot of people kind of think that

1634
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:50,060
when they first get into it that it's just a silly exercise on creative visualization.

1635
01:16:50,060 --> 01:16:55,460
But then what happens is the cave, the meditation practice begins interacting with you.

1636
01:16:55,460 --> 01:16:56,460
Oh.

1637
01:16:56,460 --> 01:16:57,460
What does this look like?

1638
01:16:57,460 --> 01:16:58,460
What does this practice look like?

1639
01:16:58,460 --> 01:16:59,460
What does it look like?

1640
01:16:59,460 --> 01:17:01,500
Well, it's a seated meditation.

1641
01:17:01,500 --> 01:17:02,500
All right.

1642
01:17:02,500 --> 01:17:05,620
So, it's with your eyes closed.

1643
01:17:05,620 --> 01:17:11,620
And you know, there are certain preparatory exercises that you will do to make sure that

1644
01:17:11,620 --> 01:17:17,460
you're in a good space emotionally and mentally, like practicing the six perspectives.

1645
01:17:17,460 --> 01:17:24,220
And then when you do the cave exercise, and I don't want to get too deep into it.

1646
01:17:24,220 --> 01:17:29,220
Basically, you know, it's a, you go to a different place in your mind.

1647
01:17:29,220 --> 01:17:30,820
Yeah, it's like you're kind of creating.

1648
01:17:30,820 --> 01:17:31,820
Yeah.

1649
01:17:31,820 --> 01:17:35,580
He talks about the cave exercises actually in his book, Path Notes of American Ninja

1650
01:17:35,580 --> 01:17:36,580
Master.

1651
01:17:36,580 --> 01:17:42,860
The cave, you know, it's laid out in a certain way, but then you kind of decorate your cave

1652
01:17:42,860 --> 01:17:43,860
the way that you want.

1653
01:17:43,860 --> 01:17:49,900
But then what happens is over time, but through consistent practice and going doing this exercise,

1654
01:17:49,900 --> 01:17:52,500
your unconscious mind begins interacting with you.

1655
01:17:52,500 --> 01:17:56,540
And it starts inserting things that you didn't insert things, start acting on their own that

1656
01:17:56,540 --> 01:17:58,460
you're not controlling.

1657
01:17:58,460 --> 01:18:00,060
It's the only, I don't know how to describe it.

1658
01:18:00,060 --> 01:18:01,060
It's really wild.

1659
01:18:01,060 --> 01:18:02,060
It's interesting.

1660
01:18:02,060 --> 01:18:03,060
And so you can interface with it.

1661
01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:04,060
Do you talk to it?

1662
01:18:04,060 --> 01:18:06,500
Do you just look at it to understand or?

1663
01:18:06,500 --> 01:18:08,060
It's a little bit of everything.

1664
01:18:08,060 --> 01:18:16,780
You know, how it manifests for any one, every, any one individual is going to be unique.

1665
01:18:16,780 --> 01:18:17,780
Yeah.

1666
01:18:17,780 --> 01:18:21,760
So it's like, you know, for example, for me, the, you know, I won't get, is like, I remember

1667
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:26,820
right before I went through the Kundalini, I was doing the cave meditation and I was

1668
01:18:26,820 --> 01:18:33,660
sitting on a little bench, you know, by a shrine, you know, little tiny church looking

1669
01:18:33,660 --> 01:18:36,500
out on a pond on a monastery.

1670
01:18:36,500 --> 01:18:43,980
And I was doing the cave exercise and then this figure appears and is running back and

1671
01:18:43,980 --> 01:18:46,620
forth and doing all this stuff in my cave.

1672
01:18:46,620 --> 01:18:51,900
And this figure is wearing a kimono and has the traditional gear head up, you know, the

1673
01:18:51,900 --> 01:18:57,500
waxed hair with the pins through it has cherry blossoms and I could actually see it.

1674
01:18:57,500 --> 01:18:58,500
Oh, like very clear.

1675
01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:02,260
Well, it's like, I knew I could actually see it.

1676
01:19:02,260 --> 01:19:04,580
And as this was, and I didn't make up this career.

1677
01:19:04,580 --> 01:19:10,020
I kept chasing this thing around asking like, who are you and what are you doing?

1678
01:19:10,020 --> 01:19:11,940
Just kind of interacting with playing, right?

1679
01:19:11,940 --> 01:19:15,140
You go into the cave with a sense of play.

1680
01:19:15,140 --> 01:19:19,080
And then the only thing that this person said to me was like, well, somebody has to clean

1681
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,540
up the place.

1682
01:19:20,540 --> 01:19:24,440
And then the next thing I know, it felt like somebody, I felt like an electric jolt, like

1683
01:19:24,440 --> 01:19:29,520
in my right at the base of my spine, it felt like somebody had kicked me and it knocked

1684
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,260
me off my seat onto the ground.

1685
01:19:32,260 --> 01:19:33,860
And the meditation was over.

1686
01:19:33,860 --> 01:19:36,900
A few days later, I went through the Kundalini.

1687
01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:39,900
So oh, that's beautiful.

1688
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:40,900
Okay.

1689
01:19:40,900 --> 01:19:44,060
And this is what you're trying to bring everyone.

1690
01:19:44,060 --> 01:19:49,500
You're trying to bring about understanding or healing and self healing and personal transformation

1691
01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:53,820
and we can start on national debt.

1692
01:19:53,820 --> 01:19:54,820
What is it called?

1693
01:19:54,820 --> 01:19:55,820
Chi Gong.

1694
01:19:55,820 --> 01:20:00,620
World Tai Chi Day, April 27, Saturday, April 27th at 10 a.m.

1695
01:20:00,620 --> 01:20:03,060
Yes, World Tai Chi Chi Gong Day.

1696
01:20:03,060 --> 01:20:06,780
Yeah, let's talk a little about it because there's a lot of stuff.

1697
01:20:06,780 --> 01:20:08,940
I mean, there's a lot of people involved.

1698
01:20:08,940 --> 01:20:09,940
Oh, yeah.

1699
01:20:09,940 --> 01:20:16,780
We've got a great group of presenters this year.

1700
01:20:16,780 --> 01:20:21,200
It's been going on for three years now and I'm really thrilled to be able to be a part

1701
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:22,200
of it this year.

1702
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:23,200
One of the sponsors.

1703
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,100
This is your first time being a part of it and this is the third year and this is the

1704
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:27,420
third year for the world.

1705
01:20:27,420 --> 01:20:30,140
I mean, this is like an international thing, right?

1706
01:20:30,140 --> 01:20:31,740
Yeah, it's an international thing.

1707
01:20:31,740 --> 01:20:36,380
It's going to be the third year overall too.

1708
01:20:36,380 --> 01:20:41,820
I can just read you a little bit what it says is that on the last Saturday of April at 10

1709
01:20:41,820 --> 01:20:46,900
a.m. local time worldwide events begin starting in the earliest time zones of the New Zealand

1710
01:20:46,900 --> 01:20:51,780
where the mass Tai Chi and Chi Gong teachings and exhibitions are held.

1711
01:20:51,780 --> 01:20:57,300
Then as the planet turns, events unfold all across Australia, Asia, Europe, Africa, North

1712
01:20:57,300 --> 01:21:03,100
and South America and finally ending in this worldwide wave of key and health education

1713
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:06,000
with the final events in Hawaii.

1714
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:11,740
The mission of the World Tai Chi Chi Gong Day is educating the planet on how to boost the

1715
01:21:11,740 --> 01:21:16,980
world's immune system with scientifically proven natural health practices.

1716
01:21:16,980 --> 01:21:17,980
Nice.

1717
01:21:17,980 --> 01:21:21,180
And then who are, can you mention some of the instructors?

1718
01:21:21,180 --> 01:21:22,180
Yeah.

1719
01:21:22,180 --> 01:21:23,180
We've got some here.

1720
01:21:23,180 --> 01:21:24,180
Oh yeah.

1721
01:21:24,180 --> 01:21:25,180
Well, you know, like.

1722
01:21:25,180 --> 01:21:27,180
You mentioned Gwen Davis.

1723
01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:28,180
Gwen Davis.

1724
01:21:28,180 --> 01:21:33,300
That was mentioned coming on this interview, but can you talk to her?

1725
01:21:33,300 --> 01:21:39,780
Yeah, she's teaching a 10 hour continuing education certification thing today and had

1726
01:21:39,780 --> 01:21:43,460
to have the space in the dojo because we share the space.

1727
01:21:43,460 --> 01:21:49,860
She is a student from the Supreme Science School of Chi Gong and she does a lot of other

1728
01:21:49,860 --> 01:21:51,820
disciplines as well.

1729
01:21:51,820 --> 01:21:54,420
And she's a really great person.

1730
01:21:54,420 --> 01:22:00,680
She's given the dojo a home through which we can fulfill our mission.

1731
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,740
And we do, you know, intensive courses together.

1732
01:22:03,740 --> 01:22:06,540
You know, we team up instead of being competitive.

1733
01:22:06,540 --> 01:22:10,260
You know, we, we work together and yeah.

1734
01:22:10,260 --> 01:22:15,340
And she's real awesome and she's going to be warming the crowd up.

1735
01:22:15,340 --> 01:22:22,680
Rick, Brett Shubert, who's a really great Tai Chi and Bagua player and Chi Gong practitioner

1736
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:27,020
for God knows how long he's going to give the opening statements.

1737
01:22:27,020 --> 01:22:30,940
And I love his perspective and I think that's going to be really good.

1738
01:22:30,940 --> 01:22:34,900
I'm going to go over, you know, meditation with the six perspectives, which we've talked

1739
01:22:34,900 --> 01:22:35,900
about.

1740
01:22:35,900 --> 01:22:42,340
Gwen's going to do an opening cultivation exercise that kind of prepares the body for

1741
01:22:42,340 --> 01:22:44,180
moving the energy.

1742
01:22:44,180 --> 01:22:48,080
And then the older, what the old men as I call them, the seed, the older seafoods are

1743
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,260
going to get up and, and go through their, their stuff.

1744
01:22:51,260 --> 01:22:54,660
Like, you know, Rick Krauss, who's awesome.

1745
01:22:54,660 --> 01:23:00,980
He's going to go over Yang style, Tai Chi long form, which was the form that was taught

1746
01:23:00,980 --> 01:23:04,500
and developed for the yellow emperor, for the emperor of China.

1747
01:23:04,500 --> 01:23:08,420
That was the Imperial courts form of Tai Chi that they did.

1748
01:23:08,420 --> 01:23:15,980
It's funny, Rick Krauss, I had never met him, but I tried to get, cause he also does therapy,

1749
01:23:15,980 --> 01:23:18,340
like talk therapy, I think too.

1750
01:23:18,340 --> 01:23:19,340
Like he's a therapist.

1751
01:23:19,340 --> 01:23:21,340
What is the word I'm missing?

1752
01:23:21,340 --> 01:23:22,340
Anyway, speech therapy?

1753
01:23:22,340 --> 01:23:23,340
Yeah.

1754
01:23:23,340 --> 01:23:28,780
Cause I was looking to get into that last year, but I never did read, but I read a lot

1755
01:23:28,780 --> 01:23:32,380
about him and he learned, that's when I kind of first learned about Tai Chi at all.

1756
01:23:32,380 --> 01:23:33,380
And I was like, what is this?

1757
01:23:33,380 --> 01:23:34,380
This is interesting.

1758
01:23:34,380 --> 01:23:35,380
Yeah.

1759
01:23:35,380 --> 01:23:36,380
I believe he's a psychiatrist or something.

1760
01:23:36,380 --> 01:23:37,380
Yeah.

1761
01:23:37,380 --> 01:23:41,740
He's, yeah, he's like, all these guys are like doctorate and stuff.

1762
01:23:41,740 --> 01:23:46,220
I'm like, I don't carry a doctorate, you know, from a normal universe.

1763
01:23:46,220 --> 01:23:47,220
I saw his name on this.

1764
01:23:47,220 --> 01:23:49,420
Like, I think I recognize that name.

1765
01:23:49,420 --> 01:23:53,060
So it's great to see him like in all these other people.

1766
01:23:53,060 --> 01:23:54,060
Yeah.

1767
01:23:54,060 --> 01:23:55,740
And then we have master Van Tran.

1768
01:23:55,740 --> 01:23:58,260
He's, he is awesome.

1769
01:23:58,260 --> 01:24:00,620
He does a form of Tai Chi.

1770
01:24:00,620 --> 01:24:07,660
He's an acupuncturist, you know, and, and he does a form of Tai Chi that stimulates specifically

1771
01:24:07,660 --> 01:24:13,620
the acupuncture points of the body.

1772
01:24:13,620 --> 01:24:19,900
And unlike his, his, his style of Tai Chi only has two, what they call forms or kata

1773
01:24:19,900 --> 01:24:22,300
that go, that go through it.

1774
01:24:22,300 --> 01:24:23,820
So I'm really excited.

1775
01:24:23,820 --> 01:24:24,820
I think that's really cool.

1776
01:24:24,820 --> 01:24:30,860
And then Ed Cunliffe, who's, you know, does a bunch of stuff and, you know, an old Aikido

1777
01:24:30,860 --> 01:24:33,180
player and other things.

1778
01:24:33,180 --> 01:24:34,380
And he's been certified.

1779
01:24:34,380 --> 01:24:42,060
He's going to do the 10 step Tai Chi form, which is good for various things.

1780
01:24:42,060 --> 01:24:48,620
And then Quan Asante is going to go over nine step child longevity, Chi Gong, which I've

1781
01:24:48,620 --> 01:24:50,380
never gotten a chance to experience.

1782
01:24:50,380 --> 01:24:55,340
So I'm really excited, you know, a lot of, a lot of really, really good knowledgeable

1783
01:24:55,340 --> 01:24:58,500
people are presenting at this year's event.

1784
01:24:58,500 --> 01:25:02,540
It seems like a lot of different types of, you know, you can probably go to this, even

1785
01:25:02,540 --> 01:25:09,460
if you practice one or several, you can probably learn about some other techniques and different

1786
01:25:09,460 --> 01:25:10,460
things.

1787
01:25:10,460 --> 01:25:14,260
And it's a good place to kind of get exposed to different, you know, people when they hear

1788
01:25:14,260 --> 01:25:19,740
Tai Chi, it's probably whatever, if you're haven't gotten into it, it's whatever you've

1789
01:25:19,740 --> 01:25:22,940
seen or been, you know, in whatever form it is.

1790
01:25:22,940 --> 01:25:28,140
Cause there's all kinds of, it's like, there's all kinds of schools or styles of Chi Gong.

1791
01:25:28,140 --> 01:25:34,660
There's all kinds of schools of Tai Chi and, you know, Tai Chi can be looked as like the

1792
01:25:34,660 --> 01:25:37,100
great grandson of Chi Gong.

1793
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:42,420
It's a martial art that it waves the Chi Gong into it, which is really cool.

1794
01:25:42,420 --> 01:25:43,420
And yeah.

1795
01:25:43,420 --> 01:25:44,420
Yeah.

1796
01:25:44,420 --> 01:25:47,660
How long on average do you think this is going to last?

1797
01:25:47,660 --> 01:25:48,660
Do you think this starts at 10?

1798
01:25:48,660 --> 01:25:50,380
When do you think it will end?

1799
01:25:50,380 --> 01:25:52,540
Oh, well, it'll be done by one o'clock.

1800
01:25:52,540 --> 01:25:58,420
So you know, we open the doors at nine 30 and there's about 30 minutes or so for people

1801
01:25:58,420 --> 01:25:59,940
to mill and kind of talk.

1802
01:25:59,940 --> 01:26:03,940
And then we're going to start the event and then, you know, each instructor, it's going

1803
01:26:03,940 --> 01:26:09,100
to be, I think about 15 minutes, 15 minutes, you know, per section.

1804
01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:12,100
And it'll give everybody a good taste of what's going on.

1805
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:16,500
And it'll be done in a way that regardless of what, whether you're an experienced practitioner

1806
01:26:16,500 --> 01:26:22,420
of some form of discipline or practice or you don't know anything, you'll be able to

1807
01:26:22,420 --> 01:26:27,980
follow along and practice with everybody and hopefully get exposed to it.

1808
01:26:27,980 --> 01:26:30,540
Feel some energy and see how it makes you feel.

1809
01:26:30,540 --> 01:26:32,540
See if it's something that resonates with you.

1810
01:26:32,540 --> 01:26:34,540
Well, I'll be there.

1811
01:26:34,540 --> 01:26:36,540
April 27th.

1812
01:26:36,540 --> 01:26:42,180
See, it starts at 10 a.m. but your doors open at nine 30.

1813
01:26:42,180 --> 01:26:44,980
There's a recommended donation of $20.

1814
01:26:44,980 --> 01:26:45,980
Yes.

1815
01:26:45,980 --> 01:26:52,580
And it's at International Dance Studio 3001, Northwest 73rd Street, Oklahoma City.

1816
01:26:52,580 --> 01:26:55,580
So it's going to be very exciting.

1817
01:26:55,580 --> 01:26:58,860
And I just love being able to talk about this and share this event.

1818
01:26:58,860 --> 01:27:04,580
I mean, that was kind of your whole idea was just, you know, talk about it and spread awareness.

1819
01:27:04,580 --> 01:27:05,580
Yeah.

1820
01:27:05,580 --> 01:27:10,980
And that was I going to say about that is it also we have an online component.

1821
01:27:10,980 --> 01:27:15,140
This is the first first year that that's being offered.

1822
01:27:15,140 --> 01:27:17,980
Nobody can't come or isn't in Oklahoma City.

1823
01:27:17,980 --> 01:27:19,980
But you know, knows about it.

1824
01:27:19,980 --> 01:27:20,980
They can go.

1825
01:27:20,980 --> 01:27:26,660
There's a link on the Facebook event pages and all the information that we have out there

1826
01:27:26,660 --> 01:27:32,780
that they can go to that link, make a donation and they'll be given a link to stream in live

1827
01:27:32,780 --> 01:27:38,100
to the event as it's going on to either listen, participate, however you want to go about

1828
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:39,100
doing it.

1829
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:40,100
I love that.

1830
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:44,660
I love the freeness, the openness, accessibility.

1831
01:27:44,660 --> 01:27:46,820
And to what would probably help all of us.

1832
01:27:46,820 --> 01:27:47,820
Oh, yeah.

1833
01:27:47,820 --> 01:27:52,660
That's the thing is, I think that's kind of why I was really thought it was important

1834
01:27:52,660 --> 01:27:57,540
to bring you to be on here because I've been getting into some of this stuff.

1835
01:27:57,540 --> 01:27:59,660
Like I said, the mindfulness stuff.

1836
01:27:59,660 --> 01:28:01,660
And I think it's just so important.

1837
01:28:01,660 --> 01:28:05,180
It's hard to convince people to try stuff or anything.

1838
01:28:05,180 --> 01:28:09,580
You bring up my meditation or any Tai Chi and people are like, no, what?

1839
01:28:09,580 --> 01:28:10,860
No, they don't understand.

1840
01:28:10,860 --> 01:28:11,860
They don't.

1841
01:28:11,860 --> 01:28:12,860
They think it's.

1842
01:28:12,860 --> 01:28:13,860
Oh, gosh.

1843
01:28:13,860 --> 01:28:17,860
I mean, I remember when I first started doing this stuff, if I tried to talk to somebody,

1844
01:28:17,860 --> 01:28:21,860
nobody had any clue what I was talking about.

1845
01:28:21,860 --> 01:28:28,340
And then at the same time, then it was like, you know, being here in the midwest, southwest,

1846
01:28:28,340 --> 01:28:30,860
you know, tends to be pretty conservative.

1847
01:28:30,860 --> 01:28:31,860
Yeah.

1848
01:28:31,860 --> 01:28:32,860
What are you doing?

1849
01:28:32,860 --> 01:28:33,860
Chinese witchcraft?

1850
01:28:33,860 --> 01:28:34,860
Yeah.

1851
01:28:34,860 --> 01:28:38,940
That kind of stuff is like, I think there's a little bit of that mentality, especially

1852
01:28:38,940 --> 01:28:39,940
here for sure.

1853
01:28:39,940 --> 01:28:44,100
I mean, that's why it's like I don't really talk too much about what I do.

1854
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:48,020
And it's like, I think you try to tell some people, the people that I know and I grew

1855
01:28:48,020 --> 01:28:52,540
up with, if it's like I can think of telling something like my dad, for example, it's like,

1856
01:28:52,540 --> 01:28:56,860
you know, it's like, I don't know, he would just not understand it at all or something.

1857
01:28:56,860 --> 01:29:00,300
It's like, and just probably look at me like I was crazy.

1858
01:29:00,300 --> 01:29:01,300
It's like, what?

1859
01:29:01,300 --> 01:29:05,100
You just sit for half an hour and just close your eyes and don't do anything like.

1860
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:06,100
Yeah.

1861
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:07,100
It's called sleeping.

1862
01:29:07,100 --> 01:29:08,100
Yeah.

1863
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:09,940
You're not asleep, you're awake and conscious.

1864
01:29:09,940 --> 01:29:14,300
I mean, it's weird and to people that don't haven't tried it or whatever.

1865
01:29:14,300 --> 01:29:15,900
So it's hard to talk about.

1866
01:29:15,900 --> 01:29:18,700
But I'm thankful you come here and talk to us.

1867
01:29:18,700 --> 01:29:22,740
And I think that our viewers and can get a lot out of this.

1868
01:29:22,740 --> 01:29:29,620
Hopefully people can become curious and try and go to this event or just even pick up

1869
01:29:29,620 --> 01:29:31,100
a book on meditation or.

1870
01:29:31,100 --> 01:29:32,100
I mean, just whatever.

1871
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:34,100
I mean, there's all kinds out there.

1872
01:29:34,100 --> 01:29:36,460
And I think that that's one of the biggest challenges.

1873
01:29:36,460 --> 01:29:42,260
I remember you sent me that is just like as far as the biggest challenge is really raising

1874
01:29:42,260 --> 01:29:46,380
awareness because most people, when you say Qigong, they have no idea what you're talking

1875
01:29:46,380 --> 01:29:48,620
about or traditional healing arts.

1876
01:29:48,620 --> 01:29:54,220
But exactly, you know, and so getting it to being able to get it out there and present

1877
01:29:54,220 --> 01:29:58,860
in such a way that somebody can wrap their mind around like, oh, yeah, OK.

1878
01:29:58,860 --> 01:30:00,980
That's why I think maybe I'll give that a shot.

1879
01:30:00,980 --> 01:30:01,980
Yeah.

1880
01:30:01,980 --> 01:30:05,020
That's the most beautiful thing is seeing somebody who does give it a shot.

1881
01:30:05,020 --> 01:30:07,380
You don't see him for a while and they come back.

1882
01:30:07,380 --> 01:30:09,380
You're like, well, and you don't see him for a while again.

1883
01:30:09,380 --> 01:30:15,220
And then they start coming back more consistently and they start talking about what's happening

1884
01:30:15,220 --> 01:30:18,180
with them and changing them or the things.

1885
01:30:18,180 --> 01:30:21,260
And I think that's a really beautiful, exciting thing to see.

1886
01:30:21,260 --> 01:30:25,380
And everybody that's done that has come back with being better.

1887
01:30:25,380 --> 01:30:26,380
Right.

1888
01:30:26,380 --> 01:30:27,380
Yeah.

1889
01:30:27,380 --> 01:30:28,380
I haven't seen anybody get worse.

1890
01:30:28,380 --> 01:30:29,380
Yeah.

1891
01:30:29,380 --> 01:30:30,380
As a result of it.

1892
01:30:30,380 --> 01:30:31,380
Yeah.

1893
01:30:31,380 --> 01:30:36,140
And that's one of the reasons why in Hoshindouchi Gong, we're really, you know, we're real all

1894
01:30:36,140 --> 01:30:41,820
about, you know, what's called the kudin or the oral tradition practice of the secret

1895
01:30:41,820 --> 01:30:47,580
smile, which creates it's an overall arcing practice that you're supposed to do your entire

1896
01:30:47,580 --> 01:30:54,340
life and involves all kinds of things from exercises to stretching to perspective.

1897
01:30:54,340 --> 01:30:56,940
Management is a good way to perspective.

1898
01:30:56,940 --> 01:30:57,940
Management.

1899
01:30:57,940 --> 01:30:58,940
I really like that.

1900
01:30:58,940 --> 01:31:02,580
It's the idea that your perspective can be managed and you're not stuck with it.

1901
01:31:02,580 --> 01:31:03,580
Yeah.

1902
01:31:03,580 --> 01:31:04,580
Yeah.

1903
01:31:04,580 --> 01:31:05,580
Yeah.

1904
01:31:05,580 --> 01:31:07,100
And that's what it comes from practicing child's mind.

1905
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:12,180
Another one I like is Shoshin that walks hand in hand with child's mind, which is, means

1906
01:31:12,180 --> 01:31:13,180
beginner's mind.

1907
01:31:13,180 --> 01:31:17,940
In other words, whatever you're doing, even if you're an expert at it, approach everything

1908
01:31:17,940 --> 01:31:19,340
as if you're a beginner.

1909
01:31:19,340 --> 01:31:21,500
You don't know anything about it.

1910
01:31:21,500 --> 01:31:26,780
You know, so if I go into a Tai Chi class, well, Tai Chi, Qigong class, some kind of

1911
01:31:26,780 --> 01:31:31,140
thing, I don't go, well, you know, I got three black belts and I know what I'm doing.

1912
01:31:31,140 --> 01:31:32,860
No, I go in there and it's like, I don't know anything.

1913
01:31:32,860 --> 01:31:33,860
Yeah.

1914
01:31:33,860 --> 01:31:34,860
And that's how you learn.

1915
01:31:34,860 --> 01:31:35,860
Yeah.

1916
01:31:35,860 --> 01:31:36,860
Empty your cup.

1917
01:31:36,860 --> 01:31:37,860
Yeah.

1918
01:31:37,860 --> 01:31:38,860
Empty your cup.

1919
01:31:38,860 --> 01:31:40,420
You know, always a beginner is what Hatsumi would say.

1920
01:31:40,420 --> 01:31:41,420
I'm always a beginner.

1921
01:31:41,420 --> 01:31:46,140
I've heard a little bit about, I mean, I've read and learned a little bit about this child's

1922
01:31:46,140 --> 01:31:49,860
mind, beginner's mind, but something about, I've learned about teachers.

1923
01:31:49,860 --> 01:31:54,140
If you're a teacher or somebody like that, like the best teachers are always the ones

1924
01:31:54,140 --> 01:31:58,300
that like are learning with the student.

1925
01:31:58,300 --> 01:32:01,060
They're like, yeah, it's like you're learning.

1926
01:32:01,060 --> 01:32:05,860
It's like you're teaching someone, but it's like their eyes are bright and why just like

1927
01:32:05,860 --> 01:32:07,260
they're learning it for the first time.

1928
01:32:07,260 --> 01:32:12,780
And I think this part of it is like learning it, seeing that the student learned something

1929
01:32:12,780 --> 01:32:18,580
is kind of that visceral experience or that vicarious kind of thing too.

1930
01:32:18,580 --> 01:32:23,300
But I think that's the best way to be because like you're saying, I mean, you're open to

1931
01:32:23,300 --> 01:32:24,300
learning new things.

1932
01:32:24,300 --> 01:32:26,820
Nobody, it doesn't matter how long you've been doing anything.

1933
01:32:26,820 --> 01:32:30,100
You're not a complete expert and know everything about it.

1934
01:32:30,100 --> 01:32:31,100
You know, it's just.

1935
01:32:31,100 --> 01:32:37,420
Well, even if you are, let's pretend that you are, you know, go into whatever you're

1936
01:32:37,420 --> 01:32:39,540
doing is, I'm a beginner.

1937
01:32:39,540 --> 01:32:41,100
And that way you'll be open.

1938
01:32:41,100 --> 01:32:43,220
You'll catch things that maybe that you didn't before.

1939
01:32:43,220 --> 01:32:45,540
And that's one of the things that we've been talking about.

1940
01:32:45,540 --> 01:32:51,780
Like my personal experience with the practice over 25 years is it constantly changes.

1941
01:32:51,780 --> 01:32:54,220
You know, it's a living thing.

1942
01:32:54,220 --> 01:32:59,500
And you know, one of the makes it possible for me to catch things that I didn't before

1943
01:32:59,500 --> 01:33:03,460
is because I approach it as a beginner.

1944
01:33:03,460 --> 01:33:08,780
And from the perspective, you know, try to a child that's just playing and having a good

1945
01:33:08,780 --> 01:33:09,780
time with it.

1946
01:33:09,780 --> 01:33:13,940
And you're asking me is if I were to tell somebody something is like, I think the most

1947
01:33:13,940 --> 01:33:18,820
important thing, those are kind of those are the more most important things you can do.

1948
01:33:18,820 --> 01:33:24,980
The most important things, honestly, when you're first taught Qigong or a style of meditation

1949
01:33:24,980 --> 01:33:28,140
or martial arts is are the basics.

1950
01:33:28,140 --> 01:33:30,260
They call them Qihong.

1951
01:33:30,260 --> 01:33:32,500
You know, these are fundamental principles.

1952
01:33:32,500 --> 01:33:37,300
The most important stuff is taught to you first because it's that important.

1953
01:33:37,300 --> 01:33:42,980
What we consider to be more advanced technique or higher practices are not as important as

1954
01:33:42,980 --> 01:33:46,500
the stuff that you're taught as a white belt, so to speak.

1955
01:33:46,500 --> 01:33:47,940
That's what's really important.

1956
01:33:47,940 --> 01:33:49,860
That's the stuff that's going to save your life.

1957
01:33:49,860 --> 01:33:52,660
Like the rest of the stuff is not necessary.

1958
01:33:52,660 --> 01:33:53,660
I think.

1959
01:33:53,660 --> 01:33:59,700
Well, and also if your basics, if you're Qihong, whether it's meditation, aren't good and really

1960
01:33:59,700 --> 01:34:05,740
solid, when you get to the higher stuff, it's either not going to work or you run the risk

1961
01:34:05,740 --> 01:34:11,580
of damaging yourself energetically or or if it's in a martial context, you're going to

1962
01:34:11,580 --> 01:34:17,220
get yourself killed because you've been taught bad technique and you never you never mastered

1963
01:34:17,220 --> 01:34:22,940
the basics and you wanted to get off into the cool stuff that looks really cool.

1964
01:34:22,940 --> 01:34:28,620
And oh, well, then that technique isn't really going to work necessarily if your basics are

1965
01:34:28,620 --> 01:34:32,340
bad because all that stuff has to be be there.

1966
01:34:32,340 --> 01:34:33,340
Foundation.

1967
01:34:33,340 --> 01:34:34,340
Yeah, the foundation.

1968
01:34:34,340 --> 01:34:42,500
Something else I want to ask you was in.

1969
01:34:42,500 --> 01:34:48,060
I've been running into the situation where it almost feels like going against the grain.

1970
01:34:48,060 --> 01:34:49,060
I feel like that was my 20s.

1971
01:34:49,060 --> 01:34:52,260
Now that maybe in my 30s, I'm more or less finding ways.

1972
01:34:52,260 --> 01:34:55,340
All right, man, where do we follow this?

1973
01:34:55,340 --> 01:34:56,820
Does that kind of make sense?

1974
01:34:56,820 --> 01:34:58,140
Like comedy became a thing.

1975
01:34:58,140 --> 01:34:59,140
Let me follow this.

1976
01:34:59,140 --> 01:35:00,420
Let me follow these emotions.

1977
01:35:00,420 --> 01:35:02,220
Let me follow this idea.

1978
01:35:02,220 --> 01:35:08,180
It's almost like there's a spark of interest in things that directions you need to go.

1979
01:35:08,180 --> 01:35:10,180
And I feel like I fought that in my 20s.

1980
01:35:10,180 --> 01:35:15,900
Do you feel like opening yourself up that because openness is a big part of this is

1981
01:35:15,900 --> 01:35:21,340
opening yourself up and allowing even the good and the bad through allows you to see

1982
01:35:21,340 --> 01:35:25,580
those and maybe find that spark and go towards the right direction.

1983
01:35:25,580 --> 01:35:28,860
I would almost say like a fish goes with the stream instead of against it.

1984
01:35:28,860 --> 01:35:33,860
Well, that's the whole idea of, you know, Taoism or, you know, there's a lot of what

1985
01:35:33,860 --> 01:35:35,580
I love about the Japanese systems.

1986
01:35:35,580 --> 01:35:41,540
And, you know, the way Soke taught me or Glenn is was, you know, it's very syncretic.

1987
01:35:41,540 --> 01:35:42,980
It's non-religious.

1988
01:35:42,980 --> 01:35:45,780
We consider worship a private matter.

1989
01:35:45,780 --> 01:35:46,780
That's up to you.

1990
01:35:46,780 --> 01:35:50,420
We don't want to necessarily need to get involved in that.

1991
01:35:50,420 --> 01:35:55,420
But really, I was going some there somewhere with that.

1992
01:35:55,420 --> 01:35:56,420
What did you just say?

1993
01:35:56,420 --> 01:35:58,180
So the fish going with the stream.

1994
01:35:58,180 --> 01:35:59,180
Oh, yeah.

1995
01:35:59,180 --> 01:36:04,300
Well, going the way, you know, the Tao means the way, you know, going with the way, the

1996
01:36:04,300 --> 01:36:09,340
energy of the universe, go with the flow, be mindful, start paying attention to the

1997
01:36:09,340 --> 01:36:15,980
great energetic cycles like the seasons and the astrology maybe even and what's going

1998
01:36:15,980 --> 01:36:21,780
on in your learn about, you know, these concepts like the five elements and get to that point,

1999
01:36:21,780 --> 01:36:25,180
you know, like the old man in the desert, you say do without doing.

2000
01:36:25,180 --> 01:36:26,660
And that's also what's really weird.

2001
01:36:26,660 --> 01:36:33,660
This is an American Indian, you know, practice, but it echoes something that said by the Tao

2002
01:36:33,660 --> 01:36:38,780
of sages all the way over and this all comes from shamanic practices, you know, the same

2003
01:36:38,780 --> 01:36:43,300
thing, you know, be still, do without doing.

2004
01:36:43,300 --> 01:36:47,180
I've heard that even in, you know, the Qigong circles too.

2005
01:36:47,180 --> 01:36:53,380
And so you find this idea from these old practices where it doesn't matter where it is in the

2006
01:36:53,380 --> 01:36:57,780
world is echoed and even almost verbatim repeated, which is kind of interesting.

2007
01:36:57,780 --> 01:37:01,220
Interesting lessons that are the same throughout different cultures.

2008
01:37:01,220 --> 01:37:06,700
Well, if you think about, hey, the universe works a certain way, nothing you can do to

2009
01:37:06,700 --> 01:37:07,700
change it.

2010
01:37:07,700 --> 01:37:09,300
It's going to keep doing whatever it does.

2011
01:37:09,300 --> 01:37:11,020
It's just, are you in tune?

2012
01:37:11,020 --> 01:37:12,020
Yeah.

2013
01:37:12,020 --> 01:37:13,020
Yeah.

2014
01:37:13,020 --> 01:37:14,820
Are you, are you, are you trying to fight against it?

2015
01:37:14,820 --> 01:37:15,820
Yeah.

2016
01:37:15,820 --> 01:37:21,500
Well, that's the thing is like, I think the world, I think our culture at large and especially

2017
01:37:21,500 --> 01:37:30,180
commerce and corporations and any kind of advertising is, um, mimicking what the world

2018
01:37:30,180 --> 01:37:33,060
naturally wants to do to you, to give you your purpose.

2019
01:37:33,060 --> 01:37:34,780
Here's McDonald's, here's McDonald's over here.

2020
01:37:34,780 --> 01:37:35,780
Here's McDonald's right there.

2021
01:37:35,780 --> 01:37:37,980
Oh, I must want to go to McDonald's.

2022
01:37:37,980 --> 01:37:38,980
Yeah.

2023
01:37:38,980 --> 01:37:39,980
Instead.

2024
01:37:39,980 --> 01:37:40,980
Yeah.

2025
01:37:40,980 --> 01:37:42,140
It's called, it's called programming for a reason.

2026
01:37:42,140 --> 01:37:43,140
Yeah.

2027
01:37:43,140 --> 01:37:46,820
You know, it's a form of predictive programming, you know, and people can read up on the psychology

2028
01:37:46,820 --> 01:37:49,460
of it, but yeah, you know, humans are creatures that have it.

2029
01:37:49,460 --> 01:37:55,140
And that's why, uh, we're talking about the subconscious mind, why corporations use logos

2030
01:37:55,140 --> 01:37:56,980
AKA symbols and stuff.

2031
01:37:56,980 --> 01:38:01,740
That stuff gets anchored in your subconscious mind and then it gets processed back up.

2032
01:38:01,740 --> 01:38:05,340
Oh, I must really, I need to go to McDonald's today.

2033
01:38:05,340 --> 01:38:07,540
I got a real hankering for McDonald's.

2034
01:38:07,540 --> 01:38:08,540
No, you don't.

2035
01:38:08,540 --> 01:38:11,780
You've just, you're, it's just that loop that's coming back.

2036
01:38:11,780 --> 01:38:14,020
It's just at that time it's coming back around.

2037
01:38:14,020 --> 01:38:15,020
Yeah.

2038
01:38:15,020 --> 01:38:19,940
I feel like now that I've kind of listened to my, I've had to be less static so I can

2039
01:38:19,940 --> 01:38:20,940
listen more.

2040
01:38:20,940 --> 01:38:28,100
I've been able to better go with the flow, find those interests, follow my nose and the

2041
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:33,820
work that I have to do or that I end up in going that direction feels effortless.

2042
01:38:33,820 --> 01:38:34,820
Yeah.

2043
01:38:34,820 --> 01:38:35,820
Yeah.

2044
01:38:35,820 --> 01:38:39,580
The idea that like anything that I do for comedy is I've never had this feeling where

2045
01:38:39,580 --> 01:38:41,500
it's just like, I'll just do it.

2046
01:38:41,500 --> 01:38:42,500
I would just do this.

2047
01:38:42,500 --> 01:38:46,420
I love doing this, but I have to kind of fight myself to tell myself to get up and go to

2048
01:38:46,420 --> 01:38:49,300
work because I'm like, well, I got to make money for this family.

2049
01:38:49,300 --> 01:38:52,780
I got to feed these people.

2050
01:38:52,780 --> 01:38:59,460
But I take the idea of play from this and I try to apply it to that.

2051
01:38:59,460 --> 01:39:00,460
Yeah.

2052
01:39:00,460 --> 01:39:01,460
As you should.

2053
01:39:01,460 --> 01:39:05,420
I can't be kind of again, I'm going against the grain a little bit, but I'm also, I know

2054
01:39:05,420 --> 01:39:06,820
that it also feeds me.

2055
01:39:06,820 --> 01:39:08,580
So let's just go have some fun.

2056
01:39:08,580 --> 01:39:09,580
Yeah.

2057
01:39:09,580 --> 01:39:12,020
There's no reason to go to work and be miserable.

2058
01:39:12,020 --> 01:39:13,020
Yeah.

2059
01:39:13,020 --> 01:39:17,260
Even if it's something that you don't particularly care for, you know, how does that benefit

2060
01:39:17,260 --> 01:39:18,940
you or anybody else?

2061
01:39:18,940 --> 01:39:23,380
And in those moments when it is like, oh, this customer is terrible or this is happening

2062
01:39:23,380 --> 01:39:27,700
and it's a little bit harder to, I have comedy to be like, all right, this is going to be

2063
01:39:27,700 --> 01:39:28,700
a great bit.

2064
01:39:28,700 --> 01:39:29,700
Yeah.

2065
01:39:29,700 --> 01:39:30,700
You know, or let me turn this around.

2066
01:39:30,700 --> 01:39:33,060
Even then you can try to do something.

2067
01:39:33,060 --> 01:39:34,060
Yeah.

2068
01:39:34,060 --> 01:39:37,820
Any hardship I deal with now, I give it a little curly Q at the end and go like, oh

2069
01:39:37,820 --> 01:39:39,820
man, I got these hemorrhoids.

2070
01:39:39,820 --> 01:39:41,540
You know, I got this problem.

2071
01:39:41,540 --> 01:39:42,980
Well, it's real pain in my ass.

2072
01:39:42,980 --> 01:39:43,980
It's an astastrophe.

2073
01:39:43,980 --> 01:39:44,980
An astastrophe.

2074
01:39:44,980 --> 01:39:45,980
I like that.

2075
01:39:45,980 --> 01:39:46,980
Yeah.

2076
01:39:46,980 --> 01:39:49,140
And that's like a new line I put in.

2077
01:39:49,140 --> 01:39:53,980
And now when I think about my hemorrhoid, I just go, you know, like changes the idea.

2078
01:39:53,980 --> 01:39:59,100
I mean, it's still uncomfortable, but you know, it's a thing nobody talks about, but

2079
01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:00,100
it's prevalent.

2080
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:01,100
It's one in four Americans.

2081
01:40:01,100 --> 01:40:04,380
And I feel like the unspoken is, you know.

2082
01:40:04,380 --> 01:40:09,740
Well, you know, it's kind of funny is that that's one of the reasons why.

2083
01:40:09,740 --> 01:40:12,980
And there's things that you can do and I can share them with you.

2084
01:40:12,980 --> 01:40:18,580
You know, is that one of the things, boy, how do you go into this?

2085
01:40:18,580 --> 01:40:20,660
One of the things is when you cough, don't push out.

2086
01:40:20,660 --> 01:40:25,620
A lot of people push out, you know, like, you know, like, you know, getting the habit

2087
01:40:25,620 --> 01:40:33,140
of sucking your pelvic floor and your butthole in and then cough.

2088
01:40:33,140 --> 01:40:39,300
And because what happens sometimes is that can push those veins out, you know, weakens

2089
01:40:39,300 --> 01:40:40,300
the pelvic floor.

2090
01:40:40,300 --> 01:40:44,100
And that's one of the things that in Qigong is that we do a lot of exercises where we're

2091
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:47,580
tightening the taint, so to speak, and all that.

2092
01:40:47,580 --> 01:40:50,660
And that helps prevent stuff like that.

2093
01:40:50,660 --> 01:40:53,620
And actually, I've cured hemorrhoids that way.

2094
01:40:53,620 --> 01:40:56,060
Well, I'm going to go.

2095
01:40:56,060 --> 01:41:00,820
You push the vein back up and then you tighten things up and you kind of hold it and then

2096
01:41:00,820 --> 01:41:05,580
you make a habit of, you know, start doing your belly breathing, tighten your pelvic

2097
01:41:05,580 --> 01:41:06,580
floor.

2098
01:41:06,580 --> 01:41:10,740
And then you take it off, you know, this is a silly thing to talk about.

2099
01:41:10,740 --> 01:41:11,740
It feels funny.

2100
01:41:11,740 --> 01:41:16,740
But it's not because we talk about it all the time.

2101
01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:17,740
So this is good.

2102
01:41:17,740 --> 01:41:23,460
Because the alternative is like some of the stuff they do, like put a rubber band around

2103
01:41:23,460 --> 01:41:25,300
it and let it die and fall off.

2104
01:41:25,300 --> 01:41:26,300
That sounds real.

2105
01:41:26,300 --> 01:41:28,700
I've known people that that seems really painful.

2106
01:41:28,700 --> 01:41:33,420
So but, you know, I've actually successfully taken care of hemorrhoids in my life at various

2107
01:41:33,420 --> 01:41:35,420
times by doing that.

2108
01:41:35,420 --> 01:41:39,220
Yeah, and that seems a lot better than going to spend, you know, whatever, seven thousand

2109
01:41:39,220 --> 01:41:40,220
dollars.

2110
01:41:40,220 --> 01:41:42,740
Yeah, some guy who's barely giving you attention.

2111
01:41:42,740 --> 01:41:47,860
If we're talking about attention as a form of healing energy to something, I've never

2112
01:41:47,860 --> 01:41:50,580
spent more money at a doctor and not felt attention.

2113
01:41:50,580 --> 01:41:52,140
That's the only I go.

2114
01:41:52,140 --> 01:41:53,140
I went to a doctor.

2115
01:41:53,140 --> 01:41:56,140
This is the every time I go up, I'm like, hey, man, I got this problem.

2116
01:41:56,140 --> 01:41:57,140
You know, it didn't fix.

2117
01:41:57,140 --> 01:41:59,340
He's like, maybe we can open up again.

2118
01:41:59,340 --> 01:42:01,540
It's like, man, what are you a car?

2119
01:42:01,540 --> 01:42:04,820
Can we figure it out the first time?

2120
01:42:04,820 --> 01:42:09,700
You know, but it's a there's a lack of attention in American medicine.

2121
01:42:09,700 --> 01:42:11,900
Yeah, that kind of like biomechanics.

2122
01:42:11,900 --> 01:42:14,620
Now, it's not even like, well, it's not a perfect.

2123
01:42:14,620 --> 01:42:15,620
I don't know.

2124
01:42:15,620 --> 01:42:19,780
I'm not going to get very frustrated with it.

2125
01:42:19,780 --> 01:42:25,100
You walk in, spend two hundred fifty dollars and then they're like, yeah, looks this.

2126
01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:27,660
Let's give it six weeks and they shoot you out the door.

2127
01:42:27,660 --> 01:42:29,740
And like I said, I think attention is where you get energy.

2128
01:42:29,740 --> 01:42:35,940
It's like, I think this is a great thing, too, because Eastern philosophies and medicine

2129
01:42:35,940 --> 01:42:42,060
or whatever like that kind of these things can heal to and different than our Western

2130
01:42:42,060 --> 01:42:43,060
surgery.

2131
01:42:43,060 --> 01:42:45,020
You know, all this crap.

2132
01:42:45,020 --> 01:42:50,940
Well, the it's really interesting is that the Oriental or the Chinese theory behind

2133
01:42:50,940 --> 01:42:52,100
change is very holistic.

2134
01:42:52,100 --> 01:42:57,860
They believe that if your energy systems are off, then it's going to affect the organs,

2135
01:42:57,860 --> 01:43:03,140
the mind, everything, and then you might manifest a particular kind of illness.

2136
01:43:03,140 --> 01:43:09,900
And so what they do is they treat the whole thing in the West where myopic we try to find

2137
01:43:09,900 --> 01:43:14,180
the one single pathogen and then kill it or cut it out.

2138
01:43:14,180 --> 01:43:15,380
And that's going to fix the problem.

2139
01:43:15,380 --> 01:43:16,780
Well, guess what?

2140
01:43:16,780 --> 01:43:23,020
If you're still out of whack, if you're cheap, your energy isn't flowing well, your nervous

2141
01:43:23,020 --> 01:43:24,980
system and all that stuff isn't working right.

2142
01:43:24,980 --> 01:43:25,980
Your body's not in shape.

2143
01:43:25,980 --> 01:43:29,900
So don't be surprised if the exact same illness manifests.

2144
01:43:29,900 --> 01:43:33,620
And they've done they found that like Chinese medicine is better at dealing with a lot of

2145
01:43:33,620 --> 01:43:39,740
like mental illness issues in Western medicine and all of its drugs and stuff is that a lot

2146
01:43:39,740 --> 01:43:43,820
of it is about, you know, balance being balanced, a balanced human being.

2147
01:43:43,820 --> 01:43:44,820
And we can get in.

2148
01:43:44,820 --> 01:43:48,420
That's another podcast on how you can go about doing that.

2149
01:43:48,420 --> 01:43:52,740
Well, I'd be happy to revisit and come back and, you know, good chance I'm going to go

2150
01:43:52,740 --> 01:43:58,820
into this, but it's a good chance that I'm going to continue because I'm looking for

2151
01:43:58,820 --> 01:44:00,140
that David mentioned meditation.

2152
01:44:00,140 --> 01:44:01,580
They helped him out a lot.

2153
01:44:01,580 --> 01:44:07,660
I find meditation in my music and like writing, but I think there's something to after I read

2154
01:44:07,660 --> 01:44:11,980
that I kind of sat with myself and I do do that now where I'm like, oh, I feel different

2155
01:44:11,980 --> 01:44:13,300
parts of myself differently now.

2156
01:44:13,300 --> 01:44:15,820
Like I said, there's not as much noise.

2157
01:44:15,820 --> 01:44:19,100
And now that it's it expresses itself, you know, through me now.

2158
01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:21,940
I mean, obviously, I still have to kind of stuff things down just to kind of go exist

2159
01:44:21,940 --> 01:44:22,940
a little.

2160
01:44:22,940 --> 01:44:23,940
I think everybody does.

2161
01:44:23,940 --> 01:44:24,940
Yeah.

2162
01:44:24,940 --> 01:44:27,660
You know, but I think now I'm like, oh, well, I know I'm stuffing it down now.

2163
01:44:27,660 --> 01:44:28,660
Yeah.

2164
01:44:28,660 --> 01:44:29,660
Before I didn't know.

2165
01:44:29,660 --> 01:44:30,660
I think that's how you exist.

2166
01:44:30,660 --> 01:44:35,100
If you do have a big issue, like something in yourself that you need to address and it's

2167
01:44:35,100 --> 01:44:39,820
very difficult and you have to recognize it, but it might take a long time, but you can

2168
01:44:39,820 --> 01:44:41,420
work on it and do different things.

2169
01:44:41,420 --> 01:44:44,900
Maybe you just try to always push it down and not try to work on it ever.

2170
01:44:44,900 --> 01:44:47,700
I mean, that's then it comes back as a manifestation.

2171
01:44:47,700 --> 01:44:48,700
Yeah.

2172
01:44:48,700 --> 01:44:49,700
And for me.

2173
01:44:49,700 --> 01:44:50,700
Yeah.

2174
01:44:50,700 --> 01:44:53,060
I mean, it's not just in your body or I mean, just whatever.

2175
01:44:53,060 --> 01:44:58,660
You said the body holds like parts of your body hold trauma.

2176
01:44:58,660 --> 01:44:59,660
Yeah.

2177
01:44:59,660 --> 01:45:00,660
How is that expressed?

2178
01:45:00,660 --> 01:45:02,580
I mean, if you don't get it cleaned out.

2179
01:45:02,580 --> 01:45:03,580
Oh, exactly.

2180
01:45:03,580 --> 01:45:05,460
You know, you start you start manifest.

2181
01:45:05,460 --> 01:45:09,380
It starts manifesting in strange ways, strange illnesses, aches and pains.

2182
01:45:09,380 --> 01:45:15,980
You develop a condition, you know, you know, mental health, the way you I mean, that's

2183
01:45:15,980 --> 01:45:23,580
another thing is like how you think directly affects your overall physical health, just

2184
01:45:23,580 --> 01:45:27,700
like your physical health affects your mental health.

2185
01:45:27,700 --> 01:45:28,700
Yeah.

2186
01:45:28,700 --> 01:45:33,780
So, and also the way you breathe, you know, we'll talk about consolidating the breath,

2187
01:45:33,780 --> 01:45:40,380
the breathing techniques and stuff that affects your body and your health because are you

2188
01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:45,380
all you're breathing real shallow and you're using your upper chest, you're breathing

2189
01:45:45,380 --> 01:45:50,580
slow and deep as a general rule, you know, even when you're exerting yourself, are you

2190
01:45:50,580 --> 01:45:56,620
activating are you breathing through your mouth, which activates the sympathetic nervous

2191
01:45:56,620 --> 01:46:00,500
system, which is the fight flight response and get you all amped up a bunch of cortisol

2192
01:46:00,500 --> 01:46:06,140
and adrenaline, you know, biological speed running through your body and you're all paranoid

2193
01:46:06,140 --> 01:46:12,380
and freaking out and triggered or are you doing things to engage the parasympathetic

2194
01:46:12,380 --> 01:46:18,180
nervous system, which creates a feeling of safety and peace and helps you.

2195
01:46:18,180 --> 01:46:19,180
Is that through the nose?

2196
01:46:19,180 --> 01:46:22,100
Yeah, it's by breathing in and out of your nose and touching the tip of your tongue to

2197
01:46:22,100 --> 01:46:28,220
the roof of your mouth and if you engage in the best and just doing that helps engage

2198
01:46:28,220 --> 01:46:32,480
the vagal nerve response and all the stuff which creates these feelings.

2199
01:46:32,480 --> 01:46:38,700
Start coupling it with baby's breath, the breathing, then it becomes even more powerful

2200
01:46:38,700 --> 01:46:43,660
because right there you're affecting the mind, you're calming down the body and you're

2201
01:46:43,660 --> 01:46:47,940
affecting the breath and you're getting more oxygen.

2202
01:46:47,940 --> 01:46:53,020
Getting air down into the lungs that there are places that most people that those lungs

2203
01:46:53,020 --> 01:46:56,020
never get any air, it's all up high.

2204
01:46:56,020 --> 01:46:57,020
Yeah.

2205
01:46:57,020 --> 01:46:58,860
Because of the high chest breathing, yeah.

2206
01:46:58,860 --> 01:47:01,100
Does it as a muscle start to atrophy over time?

2207
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:02,540
I mean, is that a thing?

2208
01:47:02,540 --> 01:47:04,740
Oh yeah, muscles, if you don't use something, you lose it.

2209
01:47:04,740 --> 01:47:07,180
You don't use your mind, you're going to lose it.

2210
01:47:07,180 --> 01:47:09,660
If you don't use your body, it's going to decline.

2211
01:47:09,660 --> 01:47:16,260
I mean, we can't, we're all going to pass, you know, at some point this vehicle can't

2212
01:47:16,260 --> 01:47:19,580
keep going, you got to lay it down at some point.

2213
01:47:19,580 --> 01:47:25,820
But yeah, you know, how you treat it and what you do with it affects how long it can help

2214
01:47:25,820 --> 01:47:26,820
you out.

2215
01:47:26,820 --> 01:47:33,100
Yeah, that's what's crazy is like these old guys that are still, they're still like Monaka

2216
01:47:33,100 --> 01:47:38,100
Sensei who is another student of Hatsumi who was my teacher's teacher.

2217
01:47:38,100 --> 01:47:44,260
He runs his own school and I know a lot of guys in the Genincon, he's like, God, he's

2218
01:47:44,260 --> 01:47:49,620
pushing 80 or something and he's jumping and rolling and teaching people how to use katanas

2219
01:47:49,620 --> 01:47:53,540
and exotic weapons and locking them.

2220
01:47:53,540 --> 01:47:58,860
I mean, it's amazing to watch and then if you get the opportunity to listen to him speak

2221
01:47:58,860 --> 01:48:01,860
about some of this stuff, that's really illuminating too.

2222
01:48:01,860 --> 01:48:08,260
He probably speaks like a much younger man that would then because of his mental training.

2223
01:48:08,260 --> 01:48:11,700
Yeah, and you kind of look at pictures of him, you can tell he's healthy.

2224
01:48:11,700 --> 01:48:12,700
Yeah.

2225
01:48:12,700 --> 01:48:17,700
You see pictures of an old man in mid-roll, you know, flying through, they're doing a

2226
01:48:17,700 --> 01:48:22,140
roll that's locking these young guys up and executing techniques.

2227
01:48:22,140 --> 01:48:24,140
It's pretty, pretty amazing, honestly.

2228
01:48:24,140 --> 01:48:29,300
There's something to this stuff, I think that's for sure, like with the health benefits.

2229
01:48:29,300 --> 01:48:32,220
So I think that's it for the show.

2230
01:48:32,220 --> 01:48:36,860
I don't know, is there anything else that we didn't touch on that we wanted to bring

2231
01:48:36,860 --> 01:48:37,860
out?

2232
01:48:37,860 --> 01:48:42,060
I don't think that, I just tell people, find us on Facebook.

2233
01:48:42,060 --> 01:48:43,060
Yeah.

2234
01:48:43,060 --> 01:48:45,100
You know, we've got all kinds of things.

2235
01:48:45,100 --> 01:48:50,780
If you want to friend me on my personal page, Grayson Tries, you know, there's links all

2236
01:48:50,780 --> 01:48:51,780
over the place.

2237
01:48:51,780 --> 01:48:56,140
Dojo of the Sun and Moon on Facebook, on Instagram, on Patreon.

2238
01:48:56,140 --> 01:49:02,420
We post a lot too, as far as, you know, you always post a weekly, you know, events or

2239
01:49:02,420 --> 01:49:05,060
your weekly class for sure.

2240
01:49:05,060 --> 01:49:06,060
Yeah.

2241
01:49:06,060 --> 01:49:08,020
And also do you want a monthly Sunday?

2242
01:49:08,020 --> 01:49:14,780
Oh, that's right, the last Sunday of every month, right down here, not far from you,

2243
01:49:14,780 --> 01:49:22,180
Point A Gallery, 39th Street, I do, Sunday afternoon Qigong from 2 to 3 p.m., you know,

2244
01:49:22,180 --> 01:49:24,060
just for the community here.

2245
01:49:24,060 --> 01:49:29,140
Same public format as we do at Spirit House on Thursday nights, pay what you can, just

2246
01:49:29,140 --> 01:49:30,140
come out and train, man.

2247
01:49:30,140 --> 01:49:33,340
I would want to come out to that one because that one I can make.

2248
01:49:33,340 --> 01:49:38,780
Thursday evening isn't too bad, I mean, it's great for, you know, most people, but I usually

2249
01:49:38,780 --> 01:49:42,460
go to sleep at 7 p.m. because I work early, early in the morning.

2250
01:49:42,460 --> 01:49:47,660
So it's difficult for me to, but I definitely want to come out to a Sunday afternoon, sometimes,

2251
01:49:47,660 --> 01:49:50,380
you know, I think I missed the last one.

2252
01:49:50,380 --> 01:49:56,340
I thought about it that day and I was like, man, I should have went, but maybe next, this

2253
01:49:56,340 --> 01:49:57,340
month.

2254
01:49:57,340 --> 01:49:58,340
Yeah.

2255
01:49:58,340 --> 01:50:04,980
And we have classes every Thursday at 7.15 at Spirit House Yoga at 50th and Shartel,

2256
01:50:04,980 --> 01:50:10,380
if you're in Oklahoma City, if you want to get, you know, join online, you can do that

2257
01:50:10,380 --> 01:50:15,140
by going to the Patreon and signing up for the $5 a month.

2258
01:50:15,140 --> 01:50:20,060
And that's one of the reasons why I try to keep things as low as I can.

2259
01:50:20,060 --> 01:50:24,060
And be, if you're interested in this stuff, I'm getting ready to do a six week intensive

2260
01:50:24,060 --> 01:50:32,280
course on the journey to Damos Cave, which deals with the interface between your subconscious

2261
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,220
and your conscious mind.

2262
01:50:34,220 --> 01:50:37,460
And once again, I only charge $200 for that.

2263
01:50:37,460 --> 01:50:43,460
And that's like daily lessons and a weekly class and a conversation with me once a week

2264
01:50:43,460 --> 01:50:49,340
if you wanted to talk about your practice, any questions, challenges, successes, whatever.

2265
01:50:49,340 --> 01:50:50,340
Six weeks?

2266
01:50:50,340 --> 01:50:51,340
Yeah, six weeks.

2267
01:50:51,340 --> 01:50:52,340
Dude, that's not bad at all.

2268
01:50:52,340 --> 01:50:53,340
Yeah, that's a really good deal.

2269
01:50:53,340 --> 01:50:54,340
Yeah.

2270
01:50:54,340 --> 01:50:58,140
Well, like I said, you know, at some point the price will go up, but I really, really

2271
01:50:58,140 --> 01:51:03,220
want and the thing about this is, is that there is a private discussion group and all

2272
01:51:03,220 --> 01:51:09,740
this information, all the videos, all the lessons I send you, all that is as long as,

2273
01:51:09,740 --> 01:51:11,500
you know, are available to you forever.

2274
01:51:11,500 --> 01:51:17,420
You know, as long as there's an internet, you can go access those videos, you know,

2275
01:51:17,420 --> 01:51:23,340
and so you can keep that in your repertoire and review it and work with aspects of it

2276
01:51:23,340 --> 01:51:25,340
as you deem necessary.

2277
01:51:25,340 --> 01:51:30,580
That's all I was curious because you have a Patreon, so if you join the $5 a month.

2278
01:51:30,580 --> 01:51:37,060
The idea of the $5 a month is, will you have access to all those videos?

2279
01:51:37,060 --> 01:51:41,180
They'll be up for a month and then it gets deleted and we just kind of keep moving and

2280
01:51:41,180 --> 01:51:44,180
talking about different topics and that sort of thing.

2281
01:51:44,180 --> 01:51:45,180
Yeah.

2282
01:51:45,180 --> 01:51:48,100
Because Patreon, I think, can work in different ways.

2283
01:51:48,100 --> 01:51:49,100
Yeah.

2284
01:51:49,100 --> 01:51:53,700
Well, that is just, you know, that's now, if you were like at a different tier, if we

2285
01:51:53,700 --> 01:52:00,420
want to talk Patreon, if you're like, you know, systematically studying Hoshidao Qigong,

2286
01:52:00,420 --> 01:52:06,020
then any video, all that stuff is in perpetuate, it is available to you because you're what's

2287
01:52:06,020 --> 01:52:08,740
called a formal student.

2288
01:52:08,740 --> 01:52:12,780
You're publicly recognized as part of the family.

2289
01:52:12,780 --> 01:52:14,740
You're not just a, I mean, you're a student.

2290
01:52:14,740 --> 01:52:16,820
You know, you're part of the family.

2291
01:52:16,820 --> 01:52:19,500
That information is available to you.

2292
01:52:19,500 --> 01:52:23,940
And also, there's all kinds of, there's training manuals and all kinds of stuff that a student

2293
01:52:23,940 --> 01:52:30,620
on that level gets and so you're not in any danger of losing the information if you're

2294
01:52:30,620 --> 01:52:32,060
serious about doing it.

2295
01:52:32,060 --> 01:52:33,060
You know what I mean?

2296
01:52:33,060 --> 01:52:34,060
Yeah.

2297
01:52:34,060 --> 01:52:35,060
You can get it.

2298
01:52:35,060 --> 01:52:36,060
Yeah.

2299
01:52:36,060 --> 01:52:37,060
It's available.

2300
01:52:37,060 --> 01:52:38,060
Yeah.

2301
01:52:38,060 --> 01:52:39,060
And the thing is, is if you're just doing the $5 a month, if you just keep coming back

2302
01:52:39,060 --> 01:52:44,460
and doing the classes and participate and reviewing and engaging in the discussion,

2303
01:52:44,460 --> 01:52:46,220
you're going to learn a lot, you know.

2304
01:52:46,220 --> 01:52:52,060
It's a really good value if you're going to do it continually for sure.

2305
01:52:52,060 --> 01:52:53,060
Yes.

2306
01:52:53,060 --> 01:52:54,060
I learned a lot.

2307
01:52:54,060 --> 01:52:55,060
Yeah.

2308
01:52:55,060 --> 01:52:56,060
Awesome.

2309
01:52:56,060 --> 01:52:57,060
I'm going to start belly breathing, baby breathing.

2310
01:52:57,060 --> 01:52:58,060
Well, I think that's it for the show.

2311
01:52:58,060 --> 01:52:59,060
Thanks, Grayson.

2312
01:52:59,060 --> 01:53:00,060
It's good to see you again.

2313
01:53:00,060 --> 01:53:01,060
Well, thank you for having me.

2314
01:53:01,060 --> 01:53:02,060
It was a pleasure.

2315
01:53:02,060 --> 01:53:03,060
Yeah.

2316
01:53:03,060 --> 01:53:04,060
Hey, guys.

2317
01:53:04,060 --> 01:53:05,060
How are you?

2318
01:53:05,060 --> 01:53:06,060
Good.

2319
01:53:06,060 --> 01:53:07,060
How are you?

2320
01:53:07,060 --> 01:53:08,060
Good.

2321
01:53:08,060 --> 01:53:09,060
Good.

2322
01:53:09,060 --> 01:53:10,060
Good.

2323
01:53:10,060 --> 01:53:11,060
Good.

2324
01:53:11,060 --> 01:53:12,060
Good.

2325
01:53:12,060 --> 01:53:13,060
Good.

2326
01:53:13,060 --> 01:53:14,060
Good.

2327
01:53:14,060 --> 01:53:15,060
Hey, guys.

2328
01:53:15,060 --> 01:53:16,060
How's it going?

2329
01:53:16,060 --> 01:53:17,500
We're here doing a thing.

2330
01:53:17,500 --> 01:53:19,300
We have a few upcoming events.

2331
01:53:19,300 --> 01:53:21,940
First one we have is Put a Cork in It Comedy Prom.

2332
01:53:21,940 --> 01:53:22,940
All right.

2333
01:53:22,940 --> 01:53:25,460
This is the most fun we're going to have at this venue.

2334
01:53:25,460 --> 01:53:28,260
This is our first of the theme shows.

2335
01:53:28,260 --> 01:53:29,380
You can show up.

2336
01:53:29,380 --> 01:53:32,620
You don't have to dress up like you're at prom, but it's a fun thing.

2337
01:53:32,620 --> 01:53:37,860
There's going to be a winner for best dressed based on some secret judges.

2338
01:53:37,860 --> 01:53:38,860
All right.

2339
01:53:38,860 --> 01:53:40,860
So nobody gets their butt whooped for picking somebody.

2340
01:53:40,860 --> 01:53:41,860
All right.

2341
01:53:41,860 --> 01:53:44,260
And then we got Dave, he's going to show up about an hour early.

2342
01:53:44,260 --> 01:53:45,700
We're going to do prom pictures.

2343
01:53:45,700 --> 01:53:46,700
Yes.

2344
01:53:46,700 --> 01:53:48,700
The doors are open at 530, right?

2345
01:53:48,700 --> 01:53:52,460
That's where we will take photos from 530 to 630 or whatever.

2346
01:53:52,460 --> 01:53:53,460
Yeah.

2347
01:53:53,460 --> 01:53:56,700
And the show will start around 630, 640 like it normally does.

2348
01:53:56,700 --> 01:53:58,100
We're going to be participating.

2349
01:53:58,100 --> 01:53:59,900
I'm going to try to dress nice.

2350
01:53:59,900 --> 01:54:01,700
Liz is definitely going to dress better.

2351
01:54:01,700 --> 01:54:06,940
And so the idea is step into an enigmatic, okay.

2352
01:54:06,940 --> 01:54:12,740
Step into an enigmatic world of laughter and intrigue, put a cork in it, comedy prom nestled

2353
01:54:12,740 --> 01:54:14,620
in the heart of downtown Oklahoma city.

2354
01:54:14,620 --> 01:54:19,660
Let the anticipation build as we transform your Friday night into a mesmerizing comedy

2355
01:54:19,660 --> 01:54:20,660
prom.

2356
01:54:20,660 --> 01:54:21,820
All right, guys.

2357
01:54:21,820 --> 01:54:23,940
And we're our headliner.

2358
01:54:23,940 --> 01:54:24,940
This is a super fun.

2359
01:54:24,940 --> 01:54:25,940
Our headliner is a magician.

2360
01:54:25,940 --> 01:54:26,940
Yeah.

2361
01:54:26,940 --> 01:54:27,940
Very cool.

2362
01:54:27,940 --> 01:54:28,940
Yeah.

2363
01:54:28,940 --> 01:54:29,940
Just like prom.

2364
01:54:29,940 --> 01:54:32,540
That is John Shaq.

2365
01:54:32,540 --> 01:54:33,940
He's super funny.

2366
01:54:33,940 --> 01:54:38,140
Then we got Curtis Newsome featuring as well as Ashley Watson.

2367
01:54:38,140 --> 01:54:40,300
And then I will be hosting.

2368
01:54:40,300 --> 01:54:43,540
And then we get $10 in advance, 15 at the door.

2369
01:54:43,540 --> 01:54:44,620
And that's downtown.

2370
01:54:44,620 --> 01:54:45,620
Put a cork in it.

2371
01:54:45,620 --> 01:54:46,620
Brick town winery.

2372
01:54:46,620 --> 01:54:47,620
Nice.

2373
01:54:47,620 --> 01:54:48,620
Nice.

2374
01:54:48,620 --> 01:54:49,620
Perfect.

2375
01:54:49,620 --> 01:54:50,620
That was awesome.

2376
01:54:50,620 --> 01:54:51,620
Okay.

2377
01:54:51,620 --> 01:54:52,620
So that was on Friday.

2378
01:54:52,620 --> 01:54:53,620
The same night.

2379
01:54:53,620 --> 01:54:54,620
Friday.

2380
01:54:54,620 --> 01:54:55,620
Yeah.

2381
01:54:55,620 --> 01:54:56,620
Friday.

2382
01:54:56,620 --> 01:54:57,620
Oh yeah.

2383
01:54:57,620 --> 01:54:58,620
The same night is Friday.

2384
01:54:58,620 --> 01:54:59,620
So just after that.

2385
01:54:59,620 --> 01:55:03,700
See, the problem is I'm going to be taking photos there and I'm going to leave immediately

2386
01:55:03,700 --> 01:55:04,700
and then go to Norman.

2387
01:55:04,700 --> 01:55:05,700
Because Norman Music Festival.

2388
01:55:05,700 --> 01:55:06,700
Oh yeah.

2389
01:55:06,700 --> 01:55:07,700
What's happening?

2390
01:55:07,700 --> 01:55:09,980
So I'm going to go down and try to catch some shows there.

2391
01:55:09,980 --> 01:55:15,700
But I would normally go to this show, which is also down the street at Point A Gallery.

2392
01:55:15,700 --> 01:55:20,060
It is Date Night with the Martin Duprass.

2393
01:55:20,060 --> 01:55:21,820
Date Night with the Martin Duprass.

2394
01:55:21,820 --> 01:55:22,820
Yeah.

2395
01:55:22,820 --> 01:55:24,500
And Second Chance 420.

2396
01:55:24,500 --> 01:55:25,500
Yeah.

2397
01:55:25,500 --> 01:55:30,300
Because they do like if you have a card you can smoke in there.

2398
01:55:30,300 --> 01:55:31,300
Anyways.

2399
01:55:31,300 --> 01:55:35,100
So Date Night with the Martin Dupras is back.

2400
01:55:35,100 --> 01:55:37,260
The show that tries to get you laid.

2401
01:55:37,260 --> 01:55:40,260
Has it been to every one of them?

2402
01:55:40,260 --> 01:55:42,260
Has it worked?

2403
01:55:42,260 --> 01:55:43,260
Yeah.

2404
01:55:43,260 --> 01:55:44,260
I don't know.

2405
01:55:44,260 --> 01:55:45,260
They're doing their best.

2406
01:55:45,260 --> 01:55:46,260
I don't know.

2407
01:55:46,260 --> 01:55:48,260
They're working with what they've got.

2408
01:55:48,260 --> 01:55:50,260
I'm trying to work on myself personally.

2409
01:55:50,260 --> 01:55:53,260
So that's my own issue.

2410
01:55:53,260 --> 01:56:00,780
We're stoked to present this month's stacked lineup of Brett Jennings, Jamie Clark, Wampus

2411
01:56:00,780 --> 01:56:07,740
Reynolds, and returning for Second Date Night appearance is Lynn K.

2412
01:56:07,740 --> 01:56:08,740
So that's a great lineup.

2413
01:56:08,740 --> 01:56:09,740
Yeah.

2414
01:56:09,740 --> 01:56:14,540
I mean, like I said, I'm going to have to miss this one because I just can't.

2415
01:56:14,540 --> 01:56:17,140
There's too much going on.

2416
01:56:17,140 --> 01:56:21,420
So that's going to be Friday, April 26th at 8pm.

2417
01:56:21,420 --> 01:56:27,540
Five dollar cover at Point A Gallery 2124 Northwest 39th Street.

2418
01:56:27,540 --> 01:56:28,540
So that's it.

2419
01:56:28,540 --> 01:56:31,380
Well, I guess we got one more.

2420
01:56:31,380 --> 01:56:33,140
All right.

2421
01:56:33,140 --> 01:56:35,140
We have another show on the 27th.

2422
01:56:35,140 --> 01:56:40,700
Saturday, which is also going to be the day that I'll be doing the Tai Chi stuff.

2423
01:56:40,700 --> 01:56:42,180
It'll be super fun.

2424
01:56:42,180 --> 01:56:46,620
Rough and Ready Comedy Show, Saturday, April 27th at 730.

2425
01:56:46,620 --> 01:56:50,940
Get ready to laugh your socks off at the funniest comedy event in town of Edmund.

2426
01:56:50,940 --> 01:56:51,940
All right.

2427
01:56:51,940 --> 01:56:52,940
Here we go.

2428
01:56:52,940 --> 01:56:59,260
Saturday, April 27th, 2024 at 730 p.m. at Rough Tail Brewing Co. for a night of nonstop

2429
01:56:59,260 --> 01:57:01,140
laughter and entertainment.

2430
01:57:01,140 --> 01:57:04,580
Our talented lineup of comedians will have you rolling in the aisles with their.

2431
01:57:04,580 --> 01:57:07,220
OK, guys, here's the deal.

2432
01:57:07,220 --> 01:57:08,220
We got really good people.

2433
01:57:08,220 --> 01:57:09,460
We got Shawna Blake.

2434
01:57:09,460 --> 01:57:11,060
She's coming from Tulsa.

2435
01:57:11,060 --> 01:57:12,580
Great headliner.

2436
01:57:12,580 --> 01:57:13,580
Constantly works the loony bin.

2437
01:57:13,580 --> 01:57:14,580
Then we got Cepeda Cheeks.

2438
01:57:14,580 --> 01:57:15,580
Also, isn't he from Tulsa?

2439
01:57:15,580 --> 01:57:16,580
Also from Tulsa.

2440
01:57:16,580 --> 01:57:22,300
I just saw him this past week whenever I went to Tulsa and killed it all over the place.

2441
01:57:22,300 --> 01:57:25,740
But I saw him working out some new hilarious stuff.

2442
01:57:25,740 --> 01:57:28,380
Dude, OJ, watch out.

2443
01:57:28,380 --> 01:57:34,620
And then we've got Leo Mendus, my heterosexual life partner, good friend and writing buddy.

2444
01:57:34,620 --> 01:57:35,620
And lawyer.

2445
01:57:35,620 --> 01:57:37,100
And lawyer, so watch out.

2446
01:57:37,100 --> 01:57:38,660
And me, Nick Campbell.

2447
01:57:38,660 --> 01:57:42,020
It's going to be a 320 West Memorial Road on Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

2448
01:57:42,020 --> 01:57:43,020
Guys, please come out.

2449
01:57:43,020 --> 01:57:44,020
It's going to be a great show.

2450
01:57:44,020 --> 01:57:47,060
Yeah, this is going to be the first one at Rough Tail.

2451
01:57:47,060 --> 01:57:50,780
We have the ability to hold 30 to 40 people.

2452
01:57:50,780 --> 01:57:53,460
Or if we have enough tickets, 100 to 150.

2453
01:57:53,460 --> 01:57:56,500
So they have a small room or an open room.

2454
01:57:56,500 --> 01:57:58,500
Either way, we're bringing both speakers.

2455
01:57:58,500 --> 01:57:59,500
Nice.

2456
01:57:59,500 --> 01:58:00,500
All right.

2457
01:58:00,500 --> 01:58:03,060
Well, that's it for the show this week.

2458
01:58:03,060 --> 01:58:04,060
Thanks, guys.

2459
01:58:04,060 --> 01:58:07,820
Thanks for watching and we'll see you on the next one.

2460
01:58:07,820 --> 01:58:08,820
Bye.

2461
01:58:08,820 --> 01:58:09,820
Good job, guys.

2462
01:58:09,820 --> 01:58:24,620
Thank God for standing.