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Hello players who exclusively play D&D for the roleplay.

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And DMs who can conjure a monologue out of the dumbest shit possible.

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Shout out to Brenda Lee Mulligan, king of the fucking monologues.

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I'm Maddie. And I'm Robert.

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And welcome back to Table Talk.

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I'm super excited for today's episode.

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I can't remember what we like, we had a name written down of like what it was going to be called.

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I'm pretty sure it was like, Yes And. And then at the table.

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What is Yes And?

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And is a really big rule in improv.

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This is all going to be kind of about like playing at the table and like the roleplay aspects of it.

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Because at this point, you've learned how to do your character sheet.

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And you've learned about the classes and the races.

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If you haven't, you should go back and watch all of our previous episodes.

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Shout out Table Talk.

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It's a cool podcast.

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Shout out the Episcode.

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The Episcode.

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Shout out to the Episcode that you're listening to right now in the podcast.

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That you're also listening to right now.

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Exactly.

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We've got to advertise.

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And watch a few of the other ones.

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And at this point, you saw us go through combat.

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Which was it.

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You've heard it.

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And you've heard how fun it was.

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Maybe we'll do a video one day.

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I need to stop saying we're going to do things on the podcast.

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It is what it is.

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But this is all going to be kind of about the in between.

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Because you're not going to be fighting shit 24 seven.

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Hopefully.

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I don't know how your table works.

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Maybe this is just like a thinly veiled combat session after combat session for your table.

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Which is totally valid.

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But a good chunk of the time, you're going to be like role playing.

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And it's one of the most, at least for every woman I've talked to about getting into D&D.

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That is the scariest part.

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It is not all of the rules.

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It is sitting at the table.

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It's the role playing.

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Playing a character.

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It's always the role playing.

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Speaking in a silly voice.

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I mean, just talking like from the perspective of somebody who's never done theater before.

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I mean, I've been in a couple of like musically kind of things just because I had the look

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of the characters that our fucking choir director was looking for.

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But I've never really had to sit down and do improv.

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I mean, again, shout out to the other episodes of the podcast that you should go and listen

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to.

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Talking about our session zero.

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Like I didn't start D&D until I was like a freshman of college.

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Maybe sophomore year.

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Like it wasn't that long ago.

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God, I sound fucking old.

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It wasn't that long ago.

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Like when I first started playing it and zero experience in improv.

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Like I can, I have a lot of practice doing public speaking and doing presentations.

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And oftentimes.

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Very different.

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Yeah, they are very different.

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And oftentimes when I'm giving like the table information, I go into presenter mode where

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it's just like the same cadence that it all sounds good.

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And it's like clear and enunciated, which is not always what you're looking for when you're

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trying to come up with our first point of the bulletin year voices.

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It's not something that I have a lot of practice with.

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And it's something that I still struggle with at the table today.

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So yeah, this is someone who has no formal or even slightly informal training in improv

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and voices.

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It is definitely the scariest part of getting into the hobby.

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It's like I have to play make believe in front of a bunch of people who I want to like and

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respect me.

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And that is, it's one of those things where you instantly, it doesn't matter how old you

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are, you go back to high school and it's the thing of like, if I put an effort and I try,

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then I'm going to look stupid.

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I'm going to look silly.

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And I promise you 100%.

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It was the, and honestly, it's the same thing for when you're in high school too.

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If there's any, anyone in high school who listens to this.

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It is genuinely, you look so much dumber if you don't put in effort.

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Like truly that is what it boils down to is like 110%.

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Especially when you have other people at the table that are putting in effort.

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Like it's one thing if everybody at the table, this is like your first time, your first campaign,

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or whatever.

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And everyone's kind of sitting there like twiddling their thumbs and like looking at their character

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sheet the whole time and like never making eye contact with another person at the table.

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And it's like, yes, I'd like to do that.

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Also, do you have this thing?

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Yeah, we'll go here.

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And like that's it.

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And if everybody else at the table is in that same space, but when you have other people

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at the table that are like committed to the bit of being the character, you look fucking

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silly when you sit there and you don't have a voice, don't have an accent, you don't have

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like a character shit.

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Anything to differentiate your character from you.

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You're just you.

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Which for the first, again, first time players, you're always, always, always, always, I think

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it is truly impossible if it is your first time playing D&D to not play you or a version

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of you.

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I've seen it happen every fucking time someone sits down at the table for the first time.

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100%.

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It's just because I mean, what else do you have to play off of?

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And we've talked about that a little bit in like the like character building episodes

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of like, it is OK for you to find that connection between yourself and your character, I think.

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And this is coming from an acting perspective because my entire background is in theater

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is that that makes think that's the only way you can play a character is by finding those

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connects between you and them.

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But like every character is just a version of you.

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And there's also dozens of ways because like I in my brain, I'm like splitting this episode

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into like two points, which is one actively being at the table and then another, which

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is like getting into character.

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And like, how do you find that character?

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And one of the most.

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So I guess we're going to start with like finding that character and like getting into

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character and then talk about like the actual like at the table portion of like things that

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you're going to do at the table to make things a little bit easier and a little bit more

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fun.

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But the first point that we kind of have written down and this is going to be like the first

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thing that comes up to anyone when you're talking about like a character.

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So you've already got your character written, have their personality, you know who they

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are, what they look like, what they, well, that's kind of something we'll talk about.

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But like generally, you're always going to know what your character looks like by the

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time you're done with your character sheet.

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Yes.

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Because you're going to have to either talk with your DM or have intermodel log with yourself

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and it's going to be or dialogue in our dialogue with yourself and it's like, okay, I think

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they're six feet tall or six, two or six, one or five, three and they're going to have

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long hair or really sharp horns.

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Maybe one of them is cut off.

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Like hopefully if you've done the character sheet process like the rest of us fucking

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freaks do, you'll come out with a good mental image of what that character looks like.

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And I think the more work you do in character creation, the easier it is to get into character

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because you have more to pull from like that makes it easier on the flip side.

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If you're like an actor or like someone who's like really into like role playing and that

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is easy for you, it is also kind of fun to go in without any plan.

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However, that is like definitely more intimidating because you don't have any like things to follow

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and I think in those situations, that's when you really have people playing themselves

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because like if you don't have a space to go into or an idea.

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Yeah, you just kind of like play a version of yourself.

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So it's difficult.

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But the biggest one is, I would continue.

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Super valid point about like the more time you spend on the character, the easier it

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is to get into a voice or a headspace.

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We debated whether or not we were going to talk about the people that play at our table

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because we know and love them all dearly.

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I love them all so much.

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I'm going there.

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Okay, I'm the DM.

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I'll take that step.

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I love all of my players and friends, best friends in the world deeply.

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There is definitely a difference in the level of role play and the level of character headspace

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and just like being present at the table invested in the events that are happening because of

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the amount of work that they all have done this time around on their characters.

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There's a huge difference.

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Big difference.

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Huge difference because it truly, if you are like connected and love a character or like

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passionate or know the character that you're playing, it's going to be so much easier because

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one of the hardest parts of like playing a character is staying true to that character

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and not being yourself, especially because it is not like a formal acting setting.

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You're not like, it's a little bit different if you're like in a full costume and you're

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on a set because then you can like kind of feel the physical differences between you

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as a person and that.

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But when you're sitting down at like the table in your basement on Saturday mornings in your

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pajamas, it's kind of hard to like separate yourself from like another situation.

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That sucks to ask, man.

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It's why evenings are better because no one's happy in the morning and if you are, nope,

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I don't drive with you, man.

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But staying true to the character is like the biggest thing when it comes to like role

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playing at the table because there's going to be decisions and this is something that

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every player is, and probably DM too, is going to have to face of making a decision that

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goes against what you as a person would do in your core beliefs, but it's so something

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that your character would do.

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I think it's easier as a DM, I mean, having done both, I think it's easier as a DM to

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not have to like constantly think about staying true to the character mostly because like,

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I mean, you write the character as a player, yes, true, whatever.

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But like how I portray the character is so much less like, it's so noncommittal in that

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like if something does change, I can just like a world lord away or like, they were

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stressed that day and you just didn't know that.

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So now they have a different like tone of voice and demeanor, but like-

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Characters accents that change all the time.

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Yeah, but like players, you have to be a little more consistent or people are going to be

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like, who are you?

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Who are you playing?

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And it's specifically with like, and I know I just joked about like accents, accents and

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voices, which we'll get into in a little bit.

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Those are more okay if they fluctuate, but your character's core beliefs, I'm going

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to use some examples of like-

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Who they are as a person.

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So this character that I played, which in that conversation of like, every character's

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a little bit like you, she was every like negative part of me.

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She was very like, I'm an impulsive person, she was a very impulsive character.

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I can be a little hard around the edges sometimes and a little bit selfish, but I never actively

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act on those things.

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That was her like whole character.

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Yeah, she was very selfish and very hard around the edges.

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And at the table, and Robert would watch and laugh as I struggled because it's like, there's

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so clearly a decision set up where I need to like, lie to the party or kill someone.

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Or do something-

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Or not go and revive them or not go and help them or pick them up because it's just not

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what the character would do.

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Basically something that like, or yeah, not helping another party member when they're

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down because you have specific beef with that party member.

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Taking a turn to attack an enemy versus picking them up or you know, doing something different.

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And to see, Robert at least I think was the only one who saw and noticed and laughed because

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I as Madison was struggling so much to not help and to not go out of my way to help or

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heal someone or do this or do that or do the right thing.

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But I'm playing a character who it would be completely the opposite of her character

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and not in a little bit of a way where you could like play it off like in a way where

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it would go against the core moral beliefs of this character if they did the good thing.

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And to try to be like, I really don't want to do this, but I know that I have to because

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that makes the most sense.

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And like just truly think the character, even if it's a decision that you as a player don't

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always want to make that being said, don't be like don't be a full asshole if you're

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like playing, well, I'm an edgy character.

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So yeah, I'm going to rob a party member in their sleep.

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No, and we'll get into that more in like a table and don't being an asshole and staying

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true to the character and so on and so forth.

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I think we've we've got to a point it's been brought up in conversation that I feel comfortable

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saying that you were difficult to play with.

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Because of the character, not so much you as the person, but like to the last point

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that you made, if they're an asshole, if they're dark and edgy, if they're broody,

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commit but like also commit to a level that's okay and comfortable with the rest of the

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people at your table.

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Like what one person at the table this semester, who I'm not going to name drop just because

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they value their privacy, has gotten really comfortable with role playing this semester

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in a way that they didn't last.

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And I think a lot of that specifically with you is because your character is so much more

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open and welcoming this time than they were last time.

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Like I think he had a really hard time opening his character up in role playing because your

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character had such a big personality that it was like if somebody else spoke, no fuck

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you, fuck you, this is me time, shut up, go sit in the hole.

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It was and it was.

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Go run my errand.

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It was also a thing of like towards the end of that campaign, I've locked myself into

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this character personality, but I'm not the biggest fan of.

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But.

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Over time you definitely started to like it less.

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Definitely, and I was trying to find a way to be like, OK, well, I can't just wake up

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one morning and be a changed person.

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So trying to find moments in the game where I can like.

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Be a little bit less of a bitch.

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And it was something where like looking back, do I love that character?

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Yes.

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Would I play her the same way if I played again?

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No.

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And that's something that you'll also learn because you will inevitably have an edgy character

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and you're inevitably going to have moments where you like clash with people at the table

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because me and this other player in it, I thought we just didn't play well together

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at the table.

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We've done several one shots and stuff and our characters are always like best fucking

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friends.

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They have a great time.

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And it's like a lot of fun.

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So I'm like.

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You're going to have those moments and like it definitely even as someone who like is

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coming from a very heavy theater background and like playing characters, I still struggled

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to like learn the difference between playing a character in a vacuum versus playing a character

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when your decisions and your character are actively affecting other.

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When there are five other human beings also at the table playing with you.

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Yes.

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We've talked about like the whole main character syndrome thing.

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Yeah.

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Like everybody wants to be the main character in their own story.

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I mean, it's just it's a true to life thing too, right?

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Like you only are capable of having one perspective at any given time.

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It's one of the lovely laws of physics and the shitty thing about being a person is

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that you only ever have your experience like truly will only ever be in your head.

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And as an actor is someone who's trained in acting, you have like an ability to try and

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put yourself in somebody else's headspace.

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But even then you're still not the other person.

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Yeah.

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And so I agree.

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There's a difference.

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I think a really big switch in the kind of role play when somebody goes from acting in

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a vacuum.

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I'm the main character in the story.

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I'm actively trying to be the main character because that's what I want versus I'm the

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main character and so are the other five people at the table.

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And so my choices are not only going to further what I want as a character and as a person,

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but they're also going to work to further what they want as a character and as a person.

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And it's also a vacuum in like when you're in a play and you're playing a character,

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you are playing it as if you are the main character because you are that person and

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people live life as they are the central piece.

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And so that is what helps you in like a play.

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And also in a play, the story is written.

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You know how you're going to affect the other characters and you know the outcome versus

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translating that to the table was kind of like a big jump.

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And don't get me wrong, being an actor definitely helped a lot.

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But it's a huge jump from going of you need to change the way that you're thinking about

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yourself and getting into the headspace of a character because you can't look at yourself

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as like I'm the solo main character and I'm the like everything is all about me and the

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way that it affects me as an individual, which is how you're taught to do it when you're

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like doing onstage work to like this is a living breathing story that's ending is not

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written and that you were an active part of and that it is a ensemble story and it is

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not a solo adventure.

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Well, now that we've hit the world's biggest tangent, voices.

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Yes.

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How is there a list?

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Yeah, voices is kind of like the one thing where like there's definitely a hard line

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because it's either you are a player or a DM who only uses voices.

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None of your characters will sound like you or you only have your voice and you don't

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do voices.

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Yeah.

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I think there can be a happy medium.

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I agree.

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And there's plenty of ways because doing like accents and voices and shit, that's intimidating.

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They're hard to do.

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And if you don't do them well, you feel fucking stupid.

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Yeah.

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Like I'm not going to like mince words or pretend.

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No, like same for me.

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Like when I try to do an accent or a voice and I just like don't nail it, I'm like, nope,

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switching to something different.

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Like, yeah, I'm not going to be able to pull it off this session.

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I'm not going to be able to.

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Huge thing for me is just fucking remembering what voices like the kind of voice I've gotten

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to the point now on my notes.

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Like I've evolved as a note taker as a DM over the last six months because it's just so much

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shit.

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Shout out note taking.

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Shout out note taking.

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But something that helps me jumping fully into the voice discussion as a DM is literally

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in your notes, whatever kind of notes you keep.

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I don't care if it's fucking sticky notes.

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If it's just a shitty notepad, if it's a book you spend $40 on, if it's like a digital

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thing that's free, I don't care.

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If you have something in your notes where you can make a list, which you should make

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a list of the characters or in their character bio, put what kind of voice or what kind of

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personality or their cadence, like their energy level, put something in there that notates

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how you want to continue to represent them at the table every time.

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Because like for me, I have like a jerseys action for the same five or six people and

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what helps me remember that is that I'm like, okay, where in the city are these people from?

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Yeah.

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In their background, I have where they were raised, not necessarily where they were born,

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but just kind of the area that they're from.

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I don't have like their fucking personal address or anything.

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I'm not that into world building, but I do have where they're from and then I, because

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we're playing in a city setting, I kind of have assigned different accents to different

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parts of the city and that's what helps me.

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Yeah.

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But I know sometimes- It's also so cool for world building in that perspective as a player's

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perspective of being like, oh, that's super awesome that everyone from this part of the

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city has the same accent.

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Yeah, sounds the same.

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It is really cool seeing everyone be like, wow, they all sound the same.

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Are you just doing the same voice?

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And I'm like, no, they're all from the same part of the fucking city.

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Yeah, which was definitely an accidental thing, wasn't it?

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Yeah, it kind of was, but it kind of wasn't.

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It was a thing where I knew I had a couple of characters who I wanted to sound kind of

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the same or have similar-ish accents.

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And then it just kind of got to a point where I was like, why am I trying to come up with

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six different accents for five people, six people that all live in the same, like 30

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miles of each other?

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Yeah.

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Like there's no point.

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Yeah.

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And so it started off as an accidental thing and then it very much turned into a purposeful

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thing because for one, you're for me that way.

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Yeah.

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And for two, I think it just, it's fun world building stuff.

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I really enjoy it.

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But the biggest thing is like, even if you're not doing an accent or a voice, which like,

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I love doing accents and voices, but I'm also someone who spent a long time in middle school

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and high school practicing voices and voice impressions and voice acting alone in my bedroom

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where no one could hear me.

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Accents aren't like my go-to thing.

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I have a time and a place.

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And you can definitely, if you want to like improve yourself at the table or like in that

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feels in the way that you want to improve is like you feel like doing voices or something

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is going to lead you there.

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You can learning accents is not the most impossible thing in the world this day and age because

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you don't have to learn them from a fucking book anymore.

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Letting you all know Robert is leaving the room.

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So it's just going to be me talking for a minute.

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But you can go on YouTube and like look up how to do a certain accent.

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That's genuinely how I learned how to do most of my accents.

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And it's very funny because every time I pull one out at the table, everyone's like, whoa,

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that's really good.

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It's a very, very bad accent.

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But no one at the table cares.

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And at the table when you're trying to attempt an accent or something, this is a fantasy

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world.

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So you don't have to worry about it actually sounding accurate to that area.

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Like I cannot roll my Rs for the life of me.

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I like, and I've done like singing lessons and stuff where we've done like Italian and

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like all of these other languages where you're supposed to roll your Rs.

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I cannot roll my Rs.

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I cannot speak Spanish.

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Like it is, it is bad.

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So if I'm doing any accent that involves any sort of like rolled R, I know that it's just

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not going to happen.

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But it doesn't matter in D&D because that accent and that like geography doesn't really exist.

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But there's so many other ways that you can play with your voice other than just an accent.

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And I think that the ways that you play with them outside of the accent says more about

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the character and helps me personally get more into the character than an accent.

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I've got this list and I found this and like literally I was like watching a guy on TikTok

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and he was talking about different ways that you can like change your voice without using

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an accent or something.

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And they fall into like different categories.

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So like some of the ways that you can play with your voice are obviously you can play

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with kind of like pitch.

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Does your character, if you're playing a younger character, they're going to be a little bit

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higher pitched than someone who's going to be playing like a much older character.

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If you're playing an older character, your voice is going to be deeper and it's going

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to be settled in a little bit more.

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That's not an accent or like me putting on a voice that is changing an aspect of the

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voice and it makes it a lot easier.

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You can play with it.

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I'm back.

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Hello.

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I just crushed up a bunch of noodles and then put them in a bowl and shout out to poor people's

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naps.

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I was just going to straight up ignore that.

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No, real quick, Danzen.

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I used to shout out to being poor.

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Get raw noodle packs from the dollar store and then crush them up while they're still

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in the pack.

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Open the package, take the seasoning packet out, sprinkle it in the pack, hold it shut,

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and then shake it wildly so that it would like basically dust the crushed up noodles

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and they get like a crunchy.

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That's exactly what I did.

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I've eaten raw pasta.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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That's a little odd.

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I mean, that's basically what this is, but at least there's like flavoring on it.

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No, there's no excuse for that.

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So we're just going to move on.

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Continue.

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Yeah.

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Pitch, not an accent.

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Hey.

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Pitch, not an accent.

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I thought you called me a bitch.

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No, I said pitch, twice.

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Oh.

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Pitch, not an accent.

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Okay.

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So yeah, pitch.

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You can also play with volume, which is like, if you're playing it, don't play volume with

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the like the loud part of it too much, but you can also think about how much like someone's

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volume fluctuates.

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So I'm going to move the mic away a little bit because if you're a character who's going

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to start talking and then you're going to get really excited and then you're going to start

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talking louder and louder and louder and louder and louder and oh my God, I'm having this

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revelation and like stuff like that is also a way that you can play with it.

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So like how much does your character like fluctuate in the way that they speak with

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in terms of volume?

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Speed is another big one.

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Is your character someone who's really, really who talks really fast?

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Maybe they just have a lot of ideas in their head and they have to get them all out as

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quickly as possible or maybe they're really smart and they're tired of slowing down for

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all the fucking idiots around here.

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So I'm just going to speak quickly and you can fucking follow along or are you a character

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who's a bit more measured in your words and you think through exactly what you want to

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say before you say it?

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This whole episode is just Madison getting deflected the fact that she's a performance

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major.

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We don't go over this because we don't have any speech and dialogue classes here.

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That's so fair.

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00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,040
But really quick.

473
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,040
This is something I really love doing.

474
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,760
I think it's just perspective about one of the aspects of a voice volume.

475
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,920
Like 100% don't go over the top because there's certainly a time and a place just like there

476
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,920
is in real life.

477
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,520
Like that's something to keep in mind when you're using volume.

478
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,760
Really try and ground yourself in the context and the situation and that'll give you a pretty

479
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,160
good indicator of when to use what kind of volume.

480
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,160
Right?

481
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,160
Like you know the whole thing.

482
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,640
I'm sure all of you, hopefully, you weren't raising a fucking bar and shout out to Dakota.

483
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,400
He wasn't raising a bar and sometimes his activities are bar in life.

484
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,400
This is crazy.

485
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,040
He walks out bare grippers 99% of the time.

486
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,800
Dude goes outside raining and then throws a bow staff around in our backyard like he's

487
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,280
like in fucking air bender.

488
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,280
I can't.

489
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,240
I've seen him do all of these things so I can't like disagree.

490
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,320
I mean sometimes it's like cool but other times it's like what are you going through

491
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,320
man?

492
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,920
I walked into the house or like walked up in the backyard and he's just out back whittling

493
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,920
a stick.

494
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,920
Yeah.

495
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,920
Making knives and shit.

496
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,920
And it's just like a Tuesday.

497
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,920
Anyways, falling in.

498
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,920
We love Dakota.

499
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,920
We do love Dakota.

500
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:23,920
He says that we make fun of him on the podcast a lot.

501
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,920
We don't.

502
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,920
We love him.

503
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,340
He's just got a lot of fun behaviors that's all.

504
00:23:27,340 --> 00:23:28,340
Yeah.

505
00:23:28,340 --> 00:23:30,320
I don't think you're like genuinely a freak.

506
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,120
It's just there are different things that not everybody does.

507
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,720
Anyways volume, indoor voice.

508
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,720
Right.

509
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,400
So like when you're inside, when you're in a building, when you're at a meeting, right?

510
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Like you're going to like whisper to the person next to you or like try and you're

511
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,280
like hey man shut the fuck up.

512
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,700
Like you're not going to be like shut the fuck up dude.

513
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:45,700
Yeah.

514
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:46,700
Unless you're playing stupid right?

515
00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:49,080
Like you're going to dump our barrier and then maybe you just don't have a sense of

516
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,160
context which is another way to use it.

517
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,780
like my favorite way to get volume involved is with the emotion of a character.

518
00:23:54,780 --> 00:24:00,320
The angrier they are, the more upset they are, the happier they are, just turn the

519
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,700
volume up because that's generally what happens in real life. The more emotional

520
00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:10,120
somebody gets, the less control they have over their their emotions. And then just

521
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:13,320
really thinking as a DM, I really like to do a lot of work on my villains because

522
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,280
those are some of my favorite characters to write and to play. It's because I can

523
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,880
be as dynamic and as complicated and as convoluted with them as I can. They don't

524
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,840
have to make sense in the same way that a normal person does. But like something

525
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,580
else to consider about volume then is when you're looking at villains

526
00:24:28,580 --> 00:24:34,080
specifically or characters that are like that silent but strong type or again

527
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,880
thinking about context, everybody else in the room is shouting and getting mad at

528
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,800
each other and then the one person who's like cool comic collected is still

529
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,520
talking in like a normal voice until everybody starts talking on their level

530
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,040
and that's like a fun way to be like kind of commanding of the room and like

531
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,600
also like I don't care about what the fuck y'all are going on about. I'm gonna do

532
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,200
this. I'm gonna be at my level and y'all can keep yelling like buffoons and not

533
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,480
listening to the only smart person in the room. Or like the sort of like silent

534
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,080
but deadly type where it's when they get really really upset they get really

535
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,320
really really quiet or they stop talking or their voice like drops drastically

536
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,720
in volume or it's like I'm gonna try and be calm with you here for a second

537
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,160
before I reach across this desk and slap the fuck out of you, get it together

538
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,760
or you're out. Like that kind of stuff is what's fun.

539
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,520
It's also a thing that helps like say in the specific moment not just in character but in the moment of where if all of your

540
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,720
characters are sneaking in somewhere maybe you're not gonna be speaking in a

541
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,800
normal volume to the other person next to you at the table and everyone's gonna

542
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,800
be kind of whispering or when you're in combat and you're trying to talk to

543
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,080
someone you're gonna kind of like hey by the way and like yell across the table

544
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,800
which just kind of helps with like your headspace of saying in the specific

545
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,880
moment that you're in at the table.

546
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,720
Volume's a fun way to really ground yourself in the context of whatever moment you're in.

547
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:54,120
It helps remind me of like if we're in combat being loud having loud things

548
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:57,280
happen if we're not in combat not having loud things happen unless it's just fit

549
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,280
for the character so I don't know.

550
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,880
The volume is a huge thing for me.

551
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:07,000
I also think that can go with like speed and articulation because like you do have those characters that and you can play with that

552
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,960
of like changing their pace and speed because of like whatever in the moment

553
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,600
and like what their resting base is but also the variation of that.

554
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,920
When they get like new information and they're really excited oh my god they're

555
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,280
probably gonna be speaking a lot faster than they are in a normal circumstance

556
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,920
or if they're really emotional and this is kind of like an actor note.

557
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,000
If you want to sound and you want to impress people at the table and like

558
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,280
during an emotional beat and you want to show off how cool and emotional you can

559
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:40,440
be slow down your words and it just makes it sound like you're choked up and like

560
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,000
take a breath in between and it's just something where if you like you can do that.

561
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,000
I think fucking Lou from dimension 20 does that really well.

562
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,400
He does it incredibly.

563
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,200
That slowing down and like bringing emotion and like this slow-paced thing.

564
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,600
He does that a lot and then like he'll ramp up usually it's he'll start sad or

565
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,000
he'll start calm and then he'll start working his emotions up and then if he

566
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,840
doesn't change his cadence at all he just gets louder and louder and louder with

567
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,840
every word.

568
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,400
Oh there was an awesome one in Crown and not Crown of Candy, Ravningmore.

569
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,240
There were a lot of good ones in Crown of Candy too.

570
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,840
His character was very like I'm a barbarian who's a king and has to be very

571
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,120
formal and I don't communicate like this.

572
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,120
Yeah.

573
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:23,760
So it was kind of interesting to see like the difference in volume with him struggling

574
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,440
to find the right context for the right places.

575
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:32,960
Another one and this is the the list I'm looking off of Robert if you want to see.

576
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,240
Kind of there.

577
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:42,480
The next one I have written down is like articulation which is it or like addiction

578
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,160
which once again isn't really changing anything about the way that you speak in

579
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:51,240
your voice but being like if I am over enunciating everything that I say it

580
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,600
definitely says something about the type of person I am.

581
00:27:54,600 --> 00:28:00,120
I don't sound like a pleasant person to be around because I'm like over enunciating

582
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,960
everything which I mean you can also play with this it's a little bit more difficult

583
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,120
to play with this on the other side of like letting your words kind of like

584
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:08,720
slur into each other maybe you know pronouncing everything as much but that

585
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,280
can also make you pretty hard to understand so I don't really suggest doing that a lot

586
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,440
at the table and then you can talk about like the engagement of your voice do you

587
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,200
sound excited to be somewhere or do you sound like you're bored out of your fucking mind

588
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,560
and you're very monotoned and you're not going to give yourself a lot of movement

589
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,920
oh my god I'm Wednesday Adams I just am so fucking thrilled to be here can't you

590
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,920
tell is something that you can play with and all of these are going to say so

591
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,640
much about your character which is why I think they're going to be more helpful

592
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,200
than accents and stuff I'm going to skip over constriction because that's like

593
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,080
more technical but also like the rhythm in the rhythmic variety of your voice

594
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,640
and you can see this a lot if you're playing the strong hero character you're

595
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,840
going to have a strong rhythm and a strong cadence to the way that you're

596
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,840
speaking verses say you're playing a calm man maybe your words are going to be a

597
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,640
little bit more slippery and smooth and you're going to glide a little bit maybe

598
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,520
you're gonna have a little bit of musicality with your voice and don't

599
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,200
you come over here to my back alley while I yeah for everything you're worse

600
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,920
yeah verses hello how can I help you today captain America so yeah I've said

601
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,680
yeah and that's gonna also like that's something really I love playing with the

602
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,880
musicality of a voice and trying to figure out like is your character someone

603
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,040
who like often goes up and talks a little bit more up and then comes back down

604
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,360
for people that aren't like super theater II like also like musicality is not a

605
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,920
term that it were it not for the the background that I have any experience

606
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,800
I've had the words wouldn't mean a hell of a lot the way I like to think of it is

607
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,520
like where do you put your emphasis that's that's a lot of what like

608
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,600
musicality and rhythm is like where do you where do you peak when you

609
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,880
conversations versus like where do you like really throw a lot of punch behind

610
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,480
when you say things versus like when you say things how hard are you being when

611
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,040
you crunch your syllables versus like where it kind of looking at how you

612
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,400
talk is like a rhythm as a cadence is a flow where your peaks where your valleys

613
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,560
and then figuring those out sometimes is kind of a more helpful way for me to

614
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,360
think about it as somebody who's not like super theater trained just thinking

615
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,640
about is it something you can do when you're talking in conversation especially

616
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,960
in the US like a very American thing to do a very English speaking thing to do

617
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,320
is to put an emphasis at the end of all of our sentences like the thing that

618
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,160
you're always going to have attention drawn towards is how we end our

619
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,320
sentences we slow down we either get quieter or we go up we don't end

620
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,240
monotone because it's not for us speaking English that's not how we like to

621
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,360
indicate that we're done talking but in other languages and other other

622
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,560
countries other cultures it's not necessarily that way so that's something

623
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,400
else you can kind of play with too how do you like to start your sentences how

624
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,360
do you like to end do all of your sentences start or sound like they've

625
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,520
started halfway through like your energy just like every time you talk it's just

626
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,280
like this and it never ends and this is the train of thought and oh my god

627
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,080
everything I'm saying is just like this and there's never begin or an end or an

628
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,080
up or down but it's all high energy all the way versus whatever the fuck the

629
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,520
opposite of that looks like yeah you're from fucking Elmo not Elmo what the

630
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,680
fuck Winnie the Pooh oh my god I used to be obsessed with Winnie the Pooh I

631
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,160
can make a compilation of you getting names wrong from this podcast and it

632
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:25,360
would be another one you could talk about is and this one's gonna be a

633
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,640
little bit more theatrical and this one's gonna be a little bit more annoying

634
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:36,480
nasality the nasal in your voice are you talking from like through your nose and

635
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,760
like pinching it in a like more technical sense I'm like pinching the

636
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,680
sound forward or like it's kind of like if you're doing a Valley Girl voice and

637
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:51,680
you're like yeah yeah it's a fun one to do but you can play with like being a

638
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,040
really nasally character like are you playing a little kid are you playing

639
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,240
somebody who's like very uppity and maybe they think they're better than

640
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,320
everyone else and then you can play with your nasality and like kind of your I

641
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,360
guess clarity or like engagement as well and you can totally sound like really

642
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,680
upbeat and high class and no I'm not gonna stop on the street and talk to you

643
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,400
and I don't think that's really like an accent that's just playing with like a

644
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,600
couple different parts of your voice so and then the opposite of nasality would

645
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,080
kind of be like a gravel I can't really add a ton of gravel to my voice because

646
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,680
I am a I'm a soprano one give me an example I don't do a lot of gravelly

647
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,160
voices but I think I got it and this would be like a gravelly voices like

648
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,080
you're talking from your chest this is like I am Batman and it's like be

649
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,720
careful when you're doing that because like I'm I don't do it a lot because I

650
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,520
also don't know how to do it super correctly and I don't want to damage my

651
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,320
voice because I use it for my job but this is gonna be like where is she like

652
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,680
I'm an easy way to fake a gravel I don't even know how to describe doing it but

653
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,200
when you talk like this and you like hold your breath a little bit when you talk

654
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,840
I don't know how to describe how to do that it's how a lot of men like to talk

655
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,520
actually yeah it's like thank football coach like locker room type shit where

656
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,880
it's like like that you very much like you you tighten your stomach and then

657
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,640
you put it all on your fucking chest yeah it all comes out very quickly yeah and

658
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,520
then clarity is just once again about how clear your words are it's a little

659
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,640
bit different than articulation because articulation to me is a little bit more

660
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:24,000
in the the consonants and clarity is a little bit more in the vowels in the

661
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,760
those noises which if you've done any like Shakespeare training or like acting

662
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,440
or whatever you definitely know the like the whole thing of like the emotion

663
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:39,120
lives in the vowels and blah blah blah but sounds stupid to me well it's

664
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,400
because everyone's always going oh yeah something on this list I don't think we

665
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,080
mentioned is like finding phrases for characters or like a base of talking

666
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,480
that is my favorite thing the way that I like to let my players know that a

667
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,080
particular character is a douchebag or sounds like a douchebag is doing like

668
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:01,160
the frat boat the frat road talk man what's going on dude high five it's

669
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,120
want to go get a brusky with me there's or the hot dude look at her listen you

670
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:12,760
miss a hundred percent of the shots you don't take I heard that from every day

671
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,720
like it's been said about once per one shot or campaign hundred percent of the

672
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:22,080
shots you don't take man and I mean that like to my core I have heard it like

673
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,960
one shot a campaign and it's so funny every time and it's such a dude bro

674
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,640
thing to say I'm gonna like start keeping a tracker because it's but like

675
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,480
finding phrases that get you into the character as well especially if you're

676
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,920
doing like a voice or something and like this is really gonna be stupid but

677
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,400
like the way that I I always have a key in phrase for a voice or an accent or a

678
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:49,800
character my one for Magnolia was what the fuck yeah because it was originally

679
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,520
she was she's a high elf and instead of doing a British accent because we started

680
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,800
playing in England I felt bad speaking in a British accent around a bunch of

681
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:03,520
British people so it translated into this kind of Australian accent so now

682
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,040
she was just randomly Australian no other character in the campaign sounded

683
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,280
like it was just her but like the way that I would key into that voice in that

684
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,280
character was saying what the fuck so like if you have like a phrase that gets

685
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:23,040
you into character that's mine for Daisy which is one where I'm not doing like an

686
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,960
accent or anything I'm just playing with like which is my current character I am

687
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,720
doing that thing where I'm kind of playing with like the technical parts of

688
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:34,080
my voice so I'm playing with pitch I'm playing with rhythmic variety and like

689
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,800
musicality and I'm playing with engagement so for Daisy whenever I'm

690
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,400
talking I'm just like oh my gosh hi hello how are you it's really it's a

691
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,000
little bit more high pitch a little bit more high energy she has so much

692
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,800
fucking energy oh my god she's a goddamn ball of energy it never stops it

693
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,920
never ends and I'm just kind of playing with like the engagement and the like the

694
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:57,760
the the excitement of it all which is something that like will definitely also

695
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,520
help you say in character and say true to your character because if you're not

696
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:07,000
talking like yourself then there's that but like that's just a fun little thing

697
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,280
voices we ready for improv yeah unless there's anything else you want to say

698
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:18,920
about voices not really good luck shit sucks rules for him brav yes and never

699
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,320
say no rule those are rules never say no I'm gonna I'm gonna kick off with that

700
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,480
one because yes and it's pretty simple and straightforward it's like you always

701
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,080
just go off of whatever the last person said or you always had a build on never

702
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,840
say no is a rule that needs to be more widely fucking practiced at tables

703
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,800
because the shit's gonna drive me crazy man and again I'm not gonna shout out

704
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,920
specific people on this one this one's more of a negative thing must stop

705
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:48,840
shooting shit down like immediately and that's what I mean and like

706
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,280
no never say no are kind of like the same rule which is there's rules of

707
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,920
improv and you can't follow all of the improv rules at the table because one of

708
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,400
the improv rules that I learned was like don't bring a gun and like that doesn't

709
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:04,000
translate to D&D setting you actively have guns or equivalent of guns yes and

710
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,120
is basically when someone gives you a prompt if I'm if we're like in an

711
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,520
fucking improv game and I'm like hey Robert are you ready to go to the zoo

712
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,680
and Robert just goes no what the fuck am I supposed to do with that as opposed

713
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,280
to like yeah I'm ready to go look at the monkeys what's your favorite animal we're

714
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,880
saying yeah oh my god I'm not feeling good I don't think we can go like there's

715
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,280
ways to redirect it but like when you just say a hard no there's nothing else

716
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,400
that can happen and also just gets really awkward for everybody at the table

717
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,240
when you just hit somebody with a no or I don't really think like I don't really

718
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:38,720
agree with that or I don't think I should do that or I don't think that's the

719
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,320
right decision or I think that's stupid expand never tell another

720
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:49,400
person they're trying to do is fucking stupid that is like role-playing and

721
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,720
playing at the table you are putting yourself out there so much and to just

722
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:58,720
look at another player and just say no is it there's no reason for you to do

723
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:02,960
that you can acknowledge something I find that that happens a lot when people

724
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,360
are trying to play characters that are very like like the too cool for school

725
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:13,160
like elf that is cooler than everybody or like is disinterested in people and

726
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,280
like to an extent that stick and be fun and trophy and whatever the fuck but then

727
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:23,040
also please remember that other people at the table are also trying to roleplay

728
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,920
with you and are not all dark and broody and like fuck you I'm better than all of

729
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,040
you and also I don't want to interact with you just say something shitty but

730
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,720
that isn't shutting someone down like instead of going like no I think that's

731
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:39,240
done being like okay so do you have a better idea yeah like I think I could

732
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,960
come up with something twice as better than that because then at least it can

733
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,800
be a fun bantery argument as opposed to like no that's just fucking stupid yeah

734
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,440
and then there's nowhere to go and it's awkward it is so well that is like that

735
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,600
have to have a table you have to have a conversation like player to player and

736
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,440
being like this is what I'm trying to do please stop shutting it down yeah then

737
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,440
in sometimes those people too as players they're like no no like I stand by what

738
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,560
I said no I just think that's stupid yeah and it's like okay like what do you

739
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,960
mmm what do you want me to do with that and then I wrote some notes on this

740
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,480
DM's perspective I will always attempt to redirect the best I can but like I

741
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,920
can't just tell somebody to do something straight up like I can't because then it

742
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,360
just makes me look like an asshole yeah if I'm like or if Madison's like hey

743
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,840
would you mind using this spell on me I think that makes a lot of sense or even

744
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,640
in character like Daisy asking fuck Oliver hey would you mind using this

745
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:38,120
spell on me and then Ben as Oliver goes no and it's like okay um well I really

746
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,120
think that it would be helpful because of this that and the other and you're

747
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,720
like trying to explain a decision in character which takes you out a minute

748
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:47,480
because when you hear a hard no that's gonna take people out of their character

749
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,160
and then it's just like no I think that's stupid okay why do you think that's

750
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,360
stupid we're in mid-combat you don't have time to fucking talk about that so

751
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,920
then it's just like okay I'm gonna stop interacting with you then because

752
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,520
what happens it leads to players not interacting with other players because

753
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:07,000
one player has very clearly showed or displayed or role played some serious

754
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,560
disinterest in whatever that other player has to say or wants to do yeah and

755
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,840
it's it's just not fun and obviously no there's like exceptions to these things

756
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,320
of like if you're playing in something and a player comes up to you and is like

757
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,120
I think that we need to kill another party member that's an instance where you

758
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:28,080
as a character can say no however you're not saying no in this and this is like

759
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,880
one of those things and maybe this is just because I've spent too much time on

760
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,480
like TikTok lately and I've had like several conversations with some of my

761
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,040
friends about like chronically online and the idea that like when you say

762
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,640
something that it has to apply to every single situation and there's no

763
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:46,480
area for you to like use your head or use like common sense and be like hmm

764
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,320
does this really apply to me obviously these rules do not apply to every single

765
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,640
person in every single situation use some critical thinking shout out to my

766
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,160
slight background of philosophy another fun tangent there's a really fun

767
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:04,080
philosophy out there it's basically I hope no one ever listens to this podcast

768
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,480
those are they're talking about because I forget specific names and titles but

769
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:13,480
say that it's basically like like moral absolutism in the idea that one guy

770
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,720
whose name I can't remember because I took this shit in my freshman year this

771
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:23,920
particular idea for his moral theory or how to determine when to be moral is to

772
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:30,600
ask yourself when doing any action when saying anything period if I did this

773
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,040
right now what I'd be okay with every other person on the planet doing it too

774
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,480
hey this shit sucks do you have something you want to send in to make it

775
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,160
better criticisms topics you'd like to see discussed or an advertisement you'd

776
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,440
like to run maybe you even want to sponsor an episode if so shoot us a

777
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:53,120
message at MC 4 6 0 at evansville.edu or DM us on Instagram at Crescent

778
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:59,520
magazine or we'll never get better like these fucking guys like if I and that

779
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,480
gets annoying as fuck because it leads to you like in this weird thing with

780
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,480
yourself where it's just like do I don't I but like also if I did that what's it

781
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,960
it doesn't work people don't use it it doesn't apply no a perfect example that

782
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,480
do you know the bean soup video on tiktok do you know what I'm talking about so

783
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,640
it was this girl and she made this bean soup which was basically like super high

784
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,760
and iron and it was for like oh yeah yeah and then there were a bunch of

785
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,280
comments being like well what if I don't like beans what if I'm allergic to beans

786
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,040
can I make this without the beans how do I make it without the beans and it's like

787
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,920
in fucking soup dude you don't like beans maybe don't eat bean soup guess what

788
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,000
all the ingredients in the soup were fucking beans how do I make beans how

789
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,320
do I make how do I make this exact kind of bean soup without the beans yeah so

790
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,000
obviously like use some critical thinking there when it comes to like

791
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,640
applying this to everything common sense isn't all that common but we encourage

792
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,240
you to go fucking find some but for the most part that rule applies of like and

793
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,720
there's different ways that you can redirect and learn how to redirect so

794
00:42:54,720 --> 00:43:00,120
if it's a thing where you're like no I or I'm using an extreme example here I

795
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:05,560
come up to just using fucking sparrow and Eba because those are the two pre-made

796
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,440
characters that we had sparrow goes up to Eba and it's like I think that we need

797
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:19,440
to kill so-and-such who is our our party patron and Eba goes no why why the fuck

798
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,480
are you wanting to kill him because even asking no and asking why after at least

799
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,120
gives them a moment gives them a moment you know and it gives you a like a

800
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,240
conversation when you just say no directly and you don't explain and you

801
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,560
don't elaborate and you don't acknowledge what the other person is trying to do

802
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,520
or like offer another way of doing it there's nothing that can happen that's

803
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,640
basically just like that's part of my note about redirecting like I as a DM

804
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,600
will try my fucking best to give people like hooks and lines in places to

805
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,800
redirect and jump if a particular like line of questioning or train of

806
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,040
thought just isn't going well I will do my best as a DM to be like here's

807
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,760
something you can grab on to or okay cool we're done on to the next thing like

808
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,560
I'm not gonna let things stall and hang and be awkward but also as a player

809
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,920
please try and do my job a little bit for me in that like you should also be

810
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,880
attempting to help redirect your your fellow players in PCs at the table

811
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,760
when you can see that something isn't going well or isn't like is gonna keep

812
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,960
hitting a dead end which is something called conversation you should get good

813
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:26,680
at having it with your players and your party members because if you say no and

814
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,200
try and end a conversation in the game are you gonna physically stand up and

815
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,440
walk out of the room no no you're still gonna be there at the table looking

816
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,280
across at the person who's flabbergasted because you just shut them down yeah

817
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,480
where do you go from there there's so many moments of like encouraging other

818
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,600
players to do things and we've talked about this before of like as a DMing

819
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,040
tool oftentimes you're gonna put like hooks for other players in other stories

820
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,200
or like in other people's conversations or things that they're interacting with

821
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,040
because that's just kind of like how a fucking mystery or an ensemble thing

822
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,760
works is where you're giving and maybe one player one at the table has

823
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,080
information on this specific thing and player two at the table has information

824
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,200
on this specific thing I'm gonna use an example from our last episode and like a

825
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,680
way of like that actively encourages conversation between players there was

826
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,600
my character had received this this comic book from like a stalker and in the

827
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:25,600
comic book there was a drawing of the person who who wrote the comic book and

828
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,160
across the table like in real life another player was interviewing this guy

829
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,280
and he was asking questions and he mentioned and the guy was like oh yeah

830
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,480
there was this one chick and like described what she was wearing and it

831
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,920
was the exact thing it was a description of the person from the comic book now my

832
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,560
character knows that and me Madison knows that and even though this was said

833
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,840
to the entire table it was also like a week ago and I'm not expecting everyone

834
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,280
because I'm an obsessive note-taker and it was something pertaining specifically

835
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,680
like or more specifically to my character than some other people's I knew

836
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,040
that instantly so like being able to also just didn't like that just wasn't

837
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,160
relevant information for them it was like cool so a chicken a costume showed up

838
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:09,360
yeah you know so finding a way for you also to like go and initiate a

839
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,520
conversation with that character and be like hey did and like trying to find a

840
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,320
way in character to be like by the way did he mention anything about like someone

841
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,840
in a costume about a person that I think I'm supposed to be paying attention to

842
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,520
but I can't say that because I wouldn't know that as a character to ask for can

843
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,280
you just tell me everything that the DM just told you verbally like now yeah

844
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,240
because that's another conversation of like it was staying in character and

845
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:36,760
staying true to your character and role-playing and then also avoiding

846
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,200
metagaming when you're in a situation like just really easy to do by the way

847
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,880
yeah and oftentimes what happens is that another player at the table will check

848
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:49,600
that person and go you weren't there yeah but sometimes that fucking irks me but

849
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,600
listen rule rule lawyers are good for if anything keeping people grounded and

850
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,320
on track and staying true to everything that's happening in the game sometimes

851
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,800
it's annoying I'm not gonna lie but other times it's like okay no that's so

852
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,640
fair I wouldn't know to ask them about this thing because I wasn't in the room

853
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,520
when that piece of information came their way yeah so as as in character as I'm

854
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,080
improving as I'm role-playing as this character I might ask a question that I

855
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,120
know as a player is gonna fuck the whole thing up but my character would a

856
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,760
hundred percent ask that yeah like if there was a specific question that I

857
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,280
wasn't supposed to ask a PC because it was gonna like set them off or let them

858
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,120
know that we knew something that we didn't want them to know but I wasn't

859
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,840
informed about that in my character's just like trying to get straight to the

860
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,760
problem I'm asking the question point blank no questions asked yeah and that's

861
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,280
when everyone at the tables like can I roll dexterity to like slap him I

862
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,600
distract can I like knock the guy out and that it makes for fun role-playing

863
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:49,920
moments but it's a meta game too much it's hard not to but there's an element

864
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,880
of metagaming that I think you have to do in moments like that when you are like

865
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,640
putting story information information other characters need in other people's

866
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,400
things and like sometimes it works out because like in this last instance my

867
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,600
character was like hey did he like mention anything about like somebody

868
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,520
being here and then that information was relate and I was like perfect and then

869
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,920
you can in character have that conversation and be like I think this is

870
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,320
connected and you can however out of character often what happens and this

871
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,360
doesn't bother me that much is going so did you tell me this yeah would you have

872
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,280
handed this thing to me before we showed up or would you have prepared that did

873
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,840
you do this or saying like what I know where this person is like you by all

874
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,480
means like from the deems perspective ask me or your other players if they

875
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,360
would have done something or thought to have done something because I'm not

876
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,760
going to be like absolutely not there's no way you could have done that get

877
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,360
fucked you don't know that yeah there are some instances where it's like what I

878
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,360
have do you think that I would have thought to have grabbed this specific

879
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,320
item and I'm like cool like roll a wisdom check or a wisdom saving throw to

880
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,200
like did you put that together before you left or did you put it together now

881
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,120
that we're midway through this encounter and you realize oh shit I forgot it yeah

882
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,600
like that's a wholly different thing than being like okay so do you tell me

883
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,360
everything that that I heard yeah and then they're like yeah no totally and

884
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,920
then that's when you can have that conversation where it's like putting the

885
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:14,560
buzzle pieces together you don't need to completely rehash the no 30 minutes of

886
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,280
conversation that I just gave every other player at the table that you I saw

887
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,680
they do the recently on dimension 20 it was specifically mintopolis and I

888
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,680
hadn't seen this done before was when basically you're like retelling a

889
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,520
character because a lot of times you'll have a character info dump to one

890
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,000
character and then the rest of the table can hear it but you also have to find a

891
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,880
way in character to relay that information to someone so in mintopolis

892
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,920
there was a moment where they would go okay cool download yep and that would

893
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,120
basically just be like it in character wave saying I'm not meta gaming but I'm

894
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,360
like giving you all of the information that I was told everything which is good

895
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,520
and also avoids you having to explain okay so then this person said this thing

896
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,200
but I think that was this thing and like blah blah blah blah you don't have to do

897
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,640
like the whole yeah I can sure a lot conversation at the table you can just

898
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,280
like you're all hopefully intelligent-ish people and you're more than capable of

899
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,960
putting it together it's like you don't always have to show your work on the

900
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,000
fucking paper sometimes mental math is okay as long as you can just indicate

901
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,800
that you got the right answer somehow yeah you know another thing when it comes

902
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,120
to like meta gaming and like sometimes you do have to step out of character to

903
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,560
stay in character when you're doing a thing where you desperately need a

904
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,200
specific piece of information from another character and when you ask them

905
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,360
in character about something they go oh nah I don't know what you're talking about

906
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,680
or something like that that's just so fucking annoying and it's happened at a

907
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,080
table quite a bit and I'm not gonna name names but it would happen quite a bit in

908
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,560
our last campaign and it got to a point where I would have to drop character be

909
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:40,000
like hey can you please tell me yeah it gets a little frustrating and sometimes

910
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,840
it makes sense for the character to not share that information but it doesn't

911
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,480
change the fact that it's just it's still fucking infuriating because it's like

912
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,760
yeah the only way that I can learn this piece of information is if you tell me

913
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,240
and because you're a slime ball fucking character with ulterior motives you're

914
00:50:56,240 --> 00:51:00,680
not gonna tell me in this moment and I can't react in character like that means

915
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:05,040
anything because I don't know I have no reason and that's when meta gaming and

916
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,800
like player versus player stuff gets real fucking messy and I try to disallow

917
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,040
that where it's like can I do an insight check to see if I think he's lying and

918
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,120
I'm like contextually there is zero reason for you to think that one of

919
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,480
your trusted allies is lying to you yeah does it suck that they didn't give you

920
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,560
that piece of information a hundred percent am I just gonna allow you to

921
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,360
magically fucking perceive into the universe and like figure out that he's

922
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,640
lying when you've spent like the last three sessions being buddy buddy with him

923
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,480
no yeah sometimes part of that improv or that yes and or that never say no is

924
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,440
rolling with the shitty punches in just fighting another way to go about it yeah

925
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,440
because sometimes player goals contradict each other and that's sometimes

926
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:52,000
what I find the most fun at the table is a DM many of that stories yeah not so

927
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,640
much in this one as much in the last campaign but setting characters up and

928
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,640
players up with goals that will eventually intersect or contradict or run

929
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,800
parallel to one another and it's just gonna be a frustrating bumping of heads

930
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,320
mostly because it engages the problem-solving skills it makes them get

931
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,760
more into character because when you get stumped with a I'm not gonna tell you

932
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,000
that you got a hop right back into character and find like a good excuse

933
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,680
in that conversation or another train of thoughts I go on yeah it's like I'm not

934
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,560
gonna give you a free check to just know he's lying yeah find another way to do

935
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:29,760
it yeah yeah on to the next yes so this next part that I kind of wrote down is a

936
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:35,080
little this is like the perfect second it's a it's a good segue into like the

937
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,760
other thing which is so we've talked about like getting into character on your

938
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,240
own and then like saying in character at the table and stuff and this is kind of

939
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,800
like the melding of those two points before we get to the one that it's truly

940
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,720
just like at the table for everyone which is things that I like to do

941
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:52,240
personally or you can do on your own that will help you that are things that

942
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,280
can set you up for success in terms of like staying in character at the table

943
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,680
or things that you can do to kind of like be more connected and attached to your

944
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,760
character really quick before we do that there was just kind of a straight

945
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,880
thought I caught it so one thing it's deep one thing that we mentioned like

946
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,240
30 minutes ago was if if you're role-playing an asshole don't do it

947
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:16,360
too well and don't be afraid to back out of it if you can see that other people

948
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,240
at the table and are uncomfortable or don't like interacting with it one of

949
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:25,520
my other tips and tricks and pointers is a DM is if you are truly just unhappy

950
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:30,120
role-playing as the character that you have given yourself and that character

951
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:35,200
is too well established or you just don't feel like it would be true to

952
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,320
yourself or the character to just have like a random fucking switch up in

953
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:43,560
personality or goals what I like to do well I see there being a few different

954
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,400
options from the DM's perspective I would encourage that player to then say

955
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:54,280
hey like can we do a retcon can we just kill him off can there be like some

956
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,320
traumatic event can we give him like a bit of an arc that's gonna like switch

957
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:03,080
up personality one thing a DM will never do is say no to giving a character

958
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:09,000
trauma character man general rule building and then like I would just sit

959
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,320
down and be like yes let's talk about which options you like most how

960
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,440
important is that character the story at this point I might be a little less

961
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,840
willing to immediately hop on and go yeah let's kill him off cuz like maybe I

962
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,360
like the character maybe the character is important maybe that character has

963
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,560
several very valuable things on their person at this moment and killing them

964
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,400
in the next session for no reason at all would just be kind of fucking stupid

965
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:33,160
from the player's perspective what I've tried to do with a character that I'm

966
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:38,280
playing actively now and in one of my other campaigns I'm involved in I got a

967
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,680
little jaded at the table as a player and started it's just because the world

968
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,760
that we're in is very non good people friendly we're playing in water deep I've

969
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,760
talked about this shit whole place several times it's where fucking near

970
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:59,640
duels and like the holders and it's got them it's got them and it was like I was

971
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,280
trying to play Batman but like a really good version of Batman like a really

972
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,440
friendly public version it you understand why it doesn't fucking exist

973
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:14,160
yeah it's impractical yeah it's like if Batman walked out in a white suit like

974
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,680
never really brutalized anybody and was like friendly and trying to help every

975
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,640
motherfucker he saw so Superman Superman but in Gotham without the

976
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,680
ability to fucking fly being vulnerable or hit people hard like really hard like

977
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:31,360
so like a philanthropist mm-hmm like a buff philanthropist I took that approach

978
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:36,000
as a character in a fucking setting that I did not realize was going to be

979
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,960
Gotham where every time I like it's the whole every good deed goes like no no

980
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,360
no good deed goes unpunished yes what my fucking character and myself as a

981
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,720
person felt like because I was like I'm gonna go out on my way to help the next

982
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:52,920
30 people because I'm a paladin and I'm all about doing good and then it'd be

983
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,480
like well the orphanage that you saved last night burned down because you

984
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:02,760
pissed off the wrong people okay we're gonna tomorrow's gonna tomorrow's a new

985
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,560
day and it's like I just kept doing shit like that and doing shit like that in

986
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,800
the world just kept fucking no shade to the DM I get what he's what he's doing

987
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,480
and it's it's difficult you know we had very different ideas about who I was

988
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,880
gonna be versus what his world was gonna be like and that's not entirely on

989
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:25,280
either one of us yeah Jesus fucking Christ but it just it got to a point

990
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,120
where like I as a character was just like okay this world has no consequences

991
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:34,560
nothing I do matters we are we're going evil and I went from like a paladin who

992
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:40,320
was like punish the wicked like do no evil I won't kill enemies I'll use

993
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:46,680
revivify unlike a fucking a bandit to I'm murdering strangling pillaging

994
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:51,800
stealing you name it I'm doing it because at this point I feel like the

995
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:57,040
only way I can save this city is if I take it by the fucking neck and that's

996
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,480
the arc that my character has been on for the last several sessions it's been

997
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,960
me going you know what I can't do any goodness we're all without doing a lot

998
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,560
of bad so I'm just gonna do a lot of bad and hope that the end result is worth

999
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,120
it and I just fucking started to dislike my character because I just couldn't

1000
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,400
find a way out of that goddamn hole yeah I just like he's evil everyone around

1001
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,760
them things he's evil I would love to do some kind of like oh he's not evil now

1002
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,520
but it's not gonna work so then something the DM did because he knew I

1003
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,800
was I was going a little overboard with it like I literally I would walk up to

1004
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,720
random people and be like you got any money for me no fuck you and then punch

1005
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:35,520
him in the face and take the lunch money like it was it was bad so he blinded

1006
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:40,880
me he had he had I'm a paladin I have a God so he and he made me have a one-on-one

1007
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,840
conversation with that God and was like hey bro I don't appreciate you going

1008
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,400
around in my name doing fucking sacrilegious shit so no eyeballs for you

1009
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,360
you can get them back when you decide you want to be a good boy and then sent

1010
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:58,560
me back blind no blind sight no nothing just fucking blind and that was my

1011
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:03,000
punishment for the character character I was fuck around and find out 100% but

1012
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,560
now what I'm doing as a player is like I finally found a fun way to play the

1013
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:13,120
character again which is like doing the like repentant all like good good

1014
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:18,480
deeps to the fucking max like I'm listen I'm throwing coins to homeless people I'm

1015
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,040
backpacking fucking monks up the mountain like I'm doing it all and I'm

1016
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,480
doing it blind it's so much funnier do imagine just a really angry blind man

1017
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,960
yeah that's exactly what it is though because everyone's like he's I love him

1018
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,720
he's funny as fuck is a DM he's also he loves to play all of his PCs like they've

1019
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,600
never seen a blind person in their life and every time we have a new

1020
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:44,520
interaction with a fucking group of NPCs he's like what's up with his eyes guys

1021
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:49,000
like talking to the party and I'm like I'm right here dude and they're like can

1022
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:54,120
I put something in that that looks weird and I'm like no that's my eye socket

1023
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,880
they're like so how'd that happen and I'm like a God took them and they're like

1024
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,480
what do you mean I got it I'm like like a literal fucking God took me to an

1025
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,520
extra-dimensional plane and plucked them out I don't have another explanation for

1026
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:11,080
that and then they're like confused what I'm jaded about the whole thing you know

1027
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,920
I'm like good because I was forced to be good but it's it's a fun arc but anyways

1028
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,400
very long tangent just to basically say sometimes you have to give yourself an

1029
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,080
arc to get yourself out of that role-playing hole other times you just

1030
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:28,200
gotta talk to the DM you like listen ask me fucking kill me I'm out next session

1031
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,480
I got a backup character let's talk about it do whatever you got to do

1032
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,320
session wise to write me the fuck out taking that explanation I'm just

1033
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,720
imagining if I just went up it was like yeah kill Magnolia yep cool

1034
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,520
backup character baby which the joke of that was also she tried to kill her so

1035
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,880
many times yeah she was unkillable she always had some bullshit to like come

1036
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,600
back to life well also we had party members who would daily cast death

1037
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,240
ward on me because it was like that Robert was that open about how the whole

1038
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,880
goal was decided she wanted to be the ultraman character I did not decide that

1039
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,840
you gave me those power cosmic events gave me the power and then you proceeded

1040
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,040
to not use them with any caution any secrecy any amount of like fucking

1041
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:16,280
cooth like you just went out there fucking vage to the universe just like

1042
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:22,000
hey guys I can do it I fucking want and I want to let you know that I can do it

1043
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,360
and I'm sick as shit also I have a garbage personality and then she was

1044
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,400
mad confused with everybody in the fucking multiverse was like no we know

1045
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,760
who you are we don't know who the rest of you are but we definitely know who you

1046
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:39,880
are and you're on a watch list and she's like me a watch list so don't take

1047
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,120
that as I just kept trying to kill her because I wanted a fucking die it's

1048
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,720
because she put a target on her back and then like danced in the middle of the

1049
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:53,440
street shoot me shoot me shoot me shoot me you won't do it no balls well every

1050
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,640
day every day I woke up with like it was fucking here are three spells that'll

1051
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,400
keep you from dying if you go down yep and then it ended up being everyone at

1052
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,880
the party just because of the nature of who they are as people were like yeah

1053
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:10,040
we're gonna lay down our lives to keep her alive for no reason also like mad

1054
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,080
essential to like progressing the story that it would have been hard to her

1055
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,120
randomly if we accidentally end up in the wrong place again and we kill her

1056
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:23,800
she's our ride can't kill the basically can't kill like the dedicated oh my

1057
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:29,480
god what is it plot device no no no not that like a driver designated driver

1058
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:37,600
a driver yeah designated yeah don't leave your DD behind or you're fucked back

1059
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:43,680
on track back on track make a playlist on your own step make a playlist spotify

1060
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:50,320
Apple music I'm a freak my ass YouTube music I'm part of me doesn't want to

1061
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,480
explain her what you just said cuz I know what you're referencing but I don't

1062
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,680
want to explain it understand what that is yeah but shout out to Matt Reese's

1063
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:03,280
Batman I just mean the like the timing of it if I don't explain any further and

1064
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:09,280
it's so fair make a list make a playlist I've got a playlist but I listen to you

1065
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,880
kind of like or I don't really listen to it before we play because we play early

1066
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,800
as fuck in the morning but it's something I listen to whenever I'm doing I do a

1067
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:21,320
lot of like artwork and like like crafts and shit for the D&D table so I listen

1068
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,480
to that while I'm doing that yeah shout out to Madison for also making two

1069
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:29,560
separate playlists that really fit in the universe and in character once for

1070
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:34,400
combat and once for like doing normal shit yeah I'm really I'll talk about

1071
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:39,160
doing like tavern music bullshit now is like listen I'm playing regular people

1072
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,560
music if y'all have suggestions let me know and then my character music is a

1073
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,040
really big like thing for her a patrol playlist that I'm like sounds like

1074
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,760
background music to me baby it's like a four hour long playlist and it is like

1075
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,480
but it doesn't have to be like that it can be a list of songs that you think

1076
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,600
fit the character or like it could be something that you think the character

1077
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,680
is gonna listen to or it could be like just listen to that like help you really

1078
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,040
get into the into the personality like remind you of the character mm-hmm or

1079
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,040
just like puts you in a particular headspace like hyping your son it's

1080
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,680
basically like fucking game day music yeah like it's pretty much it or

1081
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,200
presentation and you put on like that go-to song that like puts you in the

1082
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,360
fucking mood to go and do that thing make that but either for yourself or for

1083
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,920
your character yeah like I've got a playlist for that character there's

1084
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,240
dozens of playlists that I've made for her all of which are pretty long but I

1085
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,720
also have my like playlist that is her as a character or like her character

1086
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,080
vibes and only like 20 songs long but that's one of my favorite things to do

1087
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:38,520
you can take notes in character does your so wild I've done it before I did it

1088
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,280
for a little bit for Magnolia and I had a lot of fun doing it so much like

1089
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,960
fucking method acting a little bit it's like what's your character keep a journal

1090
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,400
or a diary and if your character does that definitely helps but like I loved

1091
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,320
the concept of like having a notebook or like a scrapbook that was like from the

1092
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:59,440
characters perspective I know I saw the time I'm moving it along and like because

1093
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,920
that also helps you keep a double it like doubles because you can take notes

1094
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,960
which is great those are always important but it also lets you know like

1095
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,840
what is important to your character and how your character views things and like

1096
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:13,360
what they are taking in which can be pretty fun so that's another fun little

1097
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:17,680
thing oh the sun things in my ass I guess I'll explain that one of our players

1098
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,240
at the table made their first like character playlist and they're playing

1099
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,800
Batman and it's called some things in my ass because they're playing a riff off

1100
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:32,320
of the Batman yeah the Nirvana song yeah which is also name I won't say because

1101
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,160
of copyright stuff you they don't copyright titles oh what's the name of

1102
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,880
the song you know something something in the way something in the way I think

1103
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:46,240
yeah it was the the like theme song for Matt Reeves is Batman yeah Robert Pattinson

1104
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,760
yeah I almost wanted to let you just say the name Pattinson I was gonna say

1105
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:55,240
Pattinson with with sparkly boy yeah so it fits but going back to like that's

1106
01:04:55,240 --> 01:05:01,560
another thing of like his him as an example of like finding things to help

1107
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,600
keep you in character because sometimes your personality contradicts the

1108
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,320
character you're playing in his does fully he's one of the sweetest people

1109
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,240
I've ever met he's playing Batman or like basically the

1110
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:15,360
darker version of Batman like we have to like I'll cut off a fucking limb if it

1111
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,400
means you tell me where the shit's at and it's like a thing we're at the table

1112
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:24,680
he's just such a friendly person that he's giving away information that I'm

1113
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:29,000
gonna fucking gut you like a dog yeah that was crazy yeah he got real into

1114
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,520
that one yeah but it like moments of like yeah that he's like oh yeah that's

1115
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:38,080
my brother yeah we're like you can't tell us that everyone's like what did you say

1116
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,920
and like he immediately came in gave away his secret identity like fully

1117
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:46,680
compromises identity so now identities don't matter it's like I'll pay everyone's

1118
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:51,320
medical bills like just just fucking balls to the wall yeah friendly person

1119
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:56,000
we have to be like dial it back yeah dial it back just like his his Batman

1120
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,200
persona and his Bruce Wayne persona are basically the same fucking person the

1121
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,840
only difference is like there's a costume on yeah sometimes yeah it's the same

1122
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,160
person night and day though like it wouldn't have taken long for everybody

1123
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:11,760
did to put two and two together not at all it was it was so funny

1124
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:16,440
fill out character Buzzfeed quizzes yes this is something that I think is really

1125
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,600
fun I've done this for characters I play it it's gonna sound really stupid you

1126
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,360
know those like fucking Buzzfeed quizzes where it's like what type of cheese are

1127
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:27,120
you or some bullshit like that or like if you want to get like more like legit

1128
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:31,720
with it I know people who take the like the enneagram test or like the the

1129
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,840
personality types and like it's wild all of those and take them as your

1130
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,000
character and I think it does kind of help and it's also kind of fun and it's

1131
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,480
just like a lighthearted fun thing that you can do that's something that you can

1132
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,760
do is kind of like a before the session or before you play thing it's stupid and

1133
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,960
silly but it's a fun little thing that I like to do another one is have a meta

1134
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:55,240
notes sheet which are notes about your character how they act small details

1135
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,400
about them this is kind of like a character Bible who talked about at the

1136
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,760
beginning of the episode yeah so like I have a document where I write down the

1137
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,400
information that like the character knows versus what I know as a person and

1138
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:11,080
then also things about the character that I like what these characters flaws are

1139
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,800
how for me I write down how the character talks and like the voice and

1140
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,600
pitch thing I also write down kind of like notes and like John notes about the

1141
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:23,200
way that they feel about other characters or if I have like an idea about

1142
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,680
like what I want their arc to kind of look like if you are coming into this

1143
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,440
and like want a certain arc and talk to your team about that if you do yeah but

1144
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,040
like ideas for kind of like an arc and stuff like that I do that that's how I

1145
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:39,800
like to take my notes as a DM actually is I like to have like a I do digital

1146
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:44,640
note-taking now just because ADHD makes using a physical note but you're fucking

1147
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,560
impossible because I can't work it out once I put it on the paper but what I

1148
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,480
like to do with my when my digital note-taking is a DM is kind of in the

1149
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:57,360
similar style as I am writing my my plot hooks and as I'm writing my my lines

1150
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:01,520
and like the connect the dots kind of stuff which is some of my favorite stuff

1151
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:07,600
to do is a DM is I will say like this person like on this let's say like on

1152
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:13,360
jury I will write a whole synopsis on like synopsis on journey jury as he is

1153
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,320
or as he was up until the beginning of the campaign and then I'll write like

1154
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:20,440
today and then under today will be like what he's done in the last couple of

1155
01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:24,280
days and then I'll name drop other characters in that note but I won't put

1156
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:29,120
anything in that note that he wouldn't know or I will put like tab under and

1157
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:35,000
then like doesn't know this but this happened and it's a really helpful way

1158
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,680
of doing note-taking for sure it can be a little exhausting like I'm not gonna

1159
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,200
like I'm playing catch up because I didn't start at the beginning of the

1160
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:48,120
semester like on notes is yeah that's exhausting but what I highly suggest that

1161
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,280
if you're gonna do it that way if you're gonna do it the way the Madison was

1162
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,880
just talking about start it from the beginning and like keep up with it

1163
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,840
because it will start to get a lot like it'll start turning into more stress

1164
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,600
that it's fun but like here's an example on like under the little

1165
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,480
relationships thing and I'm gonna use one for Parker who's her best friend

1166
01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:07,440
which is just kind of says Parker is her very best friend and her family in the

1167
01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:11,840
city the most important person in her life she would do anything to protect

1168
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,200
him if she's put in the Batman situation and it's like him or the city she's

1169
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,480
gonna choose him and so that's something for me to like kind of keep in mind

1170
01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:23,840
which that Robert as my DM should not hear that yeah I didn't know life don't

1171
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:28,200
I didn't know that don't wow everyone at the table wants to turn this character

1172
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:34,680
into until just that's so fun yeah I I was a media I was so picky about which

1173
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,600
one I was choosing I was like which one does it not matter if I say in front of

1174
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,680
Robert and I I didn't think about it because I thought that I made that clear

1175
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,600
the campaign I like to keep the atmosphere at my table very competitive

1176
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:50,160
even between players and DMs like we keep secrets from each other all the fucking

1177
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,440
time they won't give me information it is antagonistic because they know that I

1178
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:59,240
will take that and turn that shit into plot hooks and trauma real quick it's a

1179
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,680
thing we're like it's like a fun combat encounter to me dude me as a player has

1180
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:07,800
to be like okay cool I cannot let my DM actually know how my character feels

1181
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,840
about other characters because it's gonna be fodder fucking looking dude I'm

1182
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:16,320
sniping I'm like a hawk I'm already know everyone wants this character to

1183
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,240
turn out to be like the big villain fucking nuggets of motivation that I can

1184
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,920
just use man not all for negative things though mostly for not all for

1185
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,400
negative things mostly for negative this campaign has been significantly more

1186
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:33,680
lighthearted it is positive than the last fucking two I've done I agree yeah

1187
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:39,020
yeah so back off man hey the comic book thing wasn't that that was a little

1188
01:10:39,020 --> 01:10:42,200
fucked up I'll give you know I thought it was dope as shit as a player she but

1189
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:46,120
that was more fun than it was like trauma you know what I'm saying for

1190
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,280
reference my character gets their powers from super heat from from comic books

1191
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,120
huge comic book fan her whole goal in like way of knowing that she's made it

1192
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,040
is finding a comic book she goes into the comic shop finds a cute little like

1193
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:01,480
fan comic about her she's like oh my god I made it well then the next day one

1194
01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:05,680
gets delivered to where she is when she's with the rest of the party in an

1195
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:10,240
envelope and it is doxing her like straight up it's at her it shows her

1196
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:16,200
going throughout her day in her house at Parker's house it shows everyone's

1197
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,640
secret identities because she knows all of their identities and she's like this

1198
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:26,920
isn't fun anymore but like it was a plot hook yeah introduced a really really

1199
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,320
interesting antagonist that everyone seems to be fairly invested in like

1200
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:35,680
more about no it's scary as shit it's really fun but yeah meta note sheets are

1201
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:40,600
great and then physical vibes this is kind of very this is very act or the

1202
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,880
first part isn't actually the second one is actually oh wait no that's a

1203
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:50,000
different note Pinterest boards artwork dice that remind you of your character

1204
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,520
physical things that like remind you or keep you in that characters headspace

1205
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,840
that'll help kind of like keep you in character for me I love making Pinterest

1206
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,480
boards I recently and like this is okay there's a caveat with this I have a lot

1207
01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:06,560
of feelings about AI like a lot of very strong feelings about AI I stand like

1208
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,200
the writer strike has ever been I also stand with the actor strike this is

1209
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,680
gonna be a segment there'll be a whole episode about it I'm not gonna get into

1210
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,880
it all now I promise you're looking at me like you don't believe me I was just

1211
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:21,800
gonna say I have feelings about AI however personal use for personal use I

1212
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:26,280
found an AI that generates basically like comic books which is great so I've

1213
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:34,080
made like character arc for the big character art for every single yeah and

1214
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,680
I've made like character art for everything so I can like I'm making

1215
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,640
like little physical comic books for my character because that's something

1216
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,440
that's like super in character I buy a set of dice for every character that

1217
01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:49,120
reminds me of them this is a silly little woman I was thinking about drink a

1218
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,960
drink that you think that they drink like that's a that's a stupid little thing

1219
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,680
but when we used to play on like Friday nights we would often be like drinking

1220
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,400
as we're playing and like looking around the table it was like the vampire

1221
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,960
character was drinking a glass of red wine and the Irish robot for some reason

1222
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,880
was drinking like an Irish cider and I was drinking like either a gin cocktail

1223
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:13,120
or some sort of like cider or like just truly any alcoholic beverage that was

1224
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:17,680
left over which is also very in character for who I was playing like

1225
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,720
little things like that think how do they sit do they talk with their hands if

1226
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,800
they are articulate do you think that they slouch or like shrink or are they

1227
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,920
like really tall and proud like you're playing a character that's like a six

1228
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:32,240
foot Amazonian woman she's not gonna be sitting slouched over in her chair

1229
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:36,200
she's probably gonna be sitting up straighter and so sitting helps it helps

1230
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,520
it's just a small thing that you don't think about but the way that you hold

1231
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,360
yourself at the table in number one it keeps you engaged number two if you're

1232
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:47,000
actively thinking about the way that you're sitting as compared to the way

1233
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:51,240
that your character would be sitting it keeps you in game focused on that

1234
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:55,520
character the whole time yeah you know like it's just you don't have to be

1235
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,760
fucking anal about it but it's just a fun thing to think about yeah it's really

1236
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,360
fun to do and there's also moments where like this happened last session of like

1237
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,800
physically embodying some moments at the table if there's a part where you're

1238
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,680
if there's like a part where you're like shaking hands or like holding hands as

1239
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,680
a group because you're about to go through a portal we've done that before

1240
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:17,160
at the table and it's weird every time but like doing like little things like

1241
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,440
that could be really fun and they're engaging for the whole table but there

1242
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:22,080
was like a moment last session where I guess I mean you could talk about it you

1243
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:26,080
did it yeah so talking about that antagonist connected with the comic

1244
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:33,120
book she's very like mysterious very kind of like unhinged I'm not gonna give

1245
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:37,320
too many details about it just because I'm sure Madison wants to know but the

1246
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,640
problem the longest short of it is that she's she's got a couple of screws loose

1247
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:45,440
and I'm not trying to play the Harley Quinn character just for anyone listening

1248
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:48,120
that's not what I'm doing there's a specific character that I've taken

1249
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:55,920
inspiration for from but our dark and broody Batman's been off the shadow

1250
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,440
basically spots her she's like in a sniper's nest kind of deal and like

1251
01:15:00,440 --> 01:15:03,960
firing at the players from a building while like they're being attacked by

1252
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:09,800
separate like combatants and he at the very beginning of the combat session

1253
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:15,760
wild choice by the way does a fucking crazy high ridiculous perception check

1254
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:21,240
and immediately spots her like on top of a building like 500 yeah like 500 feet

1255
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:26,120
away which I mean characters not in combat can see up to two miles fucking

1256
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:31,560
characters in combat yeah y'all got like 60 feet so he definitely pushed that to

1257
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:36,360
the limit and then proceeded to spend the next like six turns just running at

1258
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:41,720
this bitch like up the building using his shadows like Spider-Man up the fucking

1259
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:46,120
building it was just like gunning for because she managed to down two members

1260
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,920
of the party both of which are the youngest members in the group and he's

1261
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,360
taken on this very like kind of dad Batman protective like touch my like

1262
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,560
touch my kids who I don't like I'm gonna fucking kill you yeah kind of deal

1263
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,840
sprints up there gets ambushed immediately and then they end up having

1264
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,200
like a bit of a fight back and forth it ends very quickly because it wasn't

1265
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,560
meant to be drawn out and then I was thinking in my head like what is she

1266
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,240
thinking like I'm trying to get in the minds like the headspace of this

1267
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:15,200
character and she's a very dark character she has interest in a lot of dark

1268
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:21,240
things she thinks that like wicked things and dark things are more fun than

1269
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,800
like fun and pretty and bright things and so this character who's like dressed

1270
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:29,400
in all black is very dark is saying all these very like grim dark things to her

1271
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,840
is there fighting you like a dog that just like die like the dog you are I

1272
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,320
don't want to say it was nuts I don't want to say like turns are on but it

1273
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,760
peaks her interest immensely because it's like cool here's somebody that I can

1274
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:45,200
go like tit for tat with yeah like I'm fucked up this person's fucked up to

1275
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:49,480
that's kind of cool man and he was in like this down state where he was

1276
01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:53,920
basically can coonie cocooning himself with his with the shadows and I was like

1277
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,800
in my mind what I was picturing was as she has him down in this vulnerable

1278
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:02,480
position she like lays down alongside him as he's in this vulnerable state and

1279
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:06,960
like gets as close to his head as she can like in his ear and then like whisper

1280
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:11,440
something to him and I couldn't decide if I wanted to do it physically if I

1281
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:14,000
just wanted to do it from across the table but in the moment it felt right to

1282
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,440
do it physically so I stood up I walked over to him I said I'm about to get in

1283
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:22,320
your ear let him go through his moment of extreme discomfort it took a couple of

1284
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,760
laughs but when I did it I thought it was a hell of a lot of fun he seemed to

1285
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:30,200
like it and it was just yeah it was a it was a whole thing about being physical

1286
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:35,040
getting up out of the chair and walking over to him getting in his ear not in

1287
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,720
like an invasion of privacy way like I told him what I was doing before I was

1288
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:42,160
gonna do it please you know and sent this key like if he had been like hey man

1289
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,480
no way I'm good like I wouldn't have done it I would have just done it from

1290
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:48,000
across the table but I know him very well I'm about to death so I got up and I

1291
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:52,320
did it and I think in that moment he felt a lot more connected to what was

1292
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:57,680
happening because he was uncomfortable in real life yeah in the game and I for a

1293
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:01,000
moment got to be in like a much more physical headspace of this fucking

1294
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,960
crazy lady who's saying crazy lady shit in his ear yeah cuz that's one of the

1295
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,440
hard things of like staying in characters you're sitting at a table like

1296
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:10,720
when you're acting you're like in the space in your body and if you can't do

1297
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,280
that of standing up and running around on stage is there's like if you can't get

1298
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:18,720
into the headspace there's always the physicality to fall back on at the

1299
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:23,440
table like you're sitting in a chair for four or five hours you know these

1300
01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:27,160
people I follow on tiktok and I wish I knew their fucking at and I think you

1301
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:31,160
follow them too but the DM in it he regularly like gets up and walks around

1302
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,840
the guy that did curses drug yes yeah super say if you just look up like

1303
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,000
curses around on tiktok you'll find him like it's up and walks around the table

1304
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,320
and it's like creepy it's good like stocks them like in the room shits wild

1305
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,400
man yeah so don't be afraid to get physical

1306
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:49,840
uh dress for success stupid little title this is also kind of a silly one

1307
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:54,000
but I like doing it I don't do it at our table I do it at another table that I

1308
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:59,400
play at dress up as your character you should you know I'm okay I'm going to

1309
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:03,760
last time she was like I'm not doing it well I play at a table full of like dudes

1310
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:11,240
cis men like aggressively men they are like it it's not even talking a lot and

1311
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:15,280
this is not like a call to action but I would absolutely love to have another

1312
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:19,360
female player at the table because I love these guys with my whole heart I

1313
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,400
want another girl with several of them so fucking bad amount of testosterone in

1314
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:27,760
that room it's a bit much at times it's a little nausea I feel bad for medicine

1315
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:31,520
but because of that and like because of like who they are as people I was like

1316
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,720
it'd be stupid if I'd like dressed as care like dressed up or something like

1317
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,400
that I mentioned something off-handedly and they were all so offended they were

1318
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:42,800
like what do you mean I want to dress up a character so bad try it man that's the

1319
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:48,740
coolest thing ever so like nerds when they're shy men that don't want to

1320
01:19:48,740 --> 01:19:52,720
roleplay you kind of forget that they're also into that shit yeah so but like you

1321
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,800
don't have to wear a full-blown costume but like maybe you wear their favorite

1322
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,760
color or like if you're playing in a fantasy setting if you have like one of

1323
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,520
those flowy white blouses you know like the one that men wear and like the like

1324
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:08,120
I call them the slutty blouse Darcy wears or like any man yeah any man in a

1325
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:12,000
fantasy setting who wears one of those he's a slut he is for the streets

1326
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,280
whore um well like wearing something that's like a little bit like that I

1327
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:21,840
wear like you're objectifying fantasy men right now Madison absolutely wow and

1328
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,560
I'll do it again no that's fair I'm someone who owns a lot of like weird

1329
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,480
costumey shit I've got like corsets and stuff if I'm playing a character that's

1330
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:31,400
gonna wear a corset I'll wear a corset or if you're playing a character with

1331
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,640
glasses maybe you've got like a pair of fake glasses or you wear real glasses

1332
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,520
instead of wearing your contacts maybe you can wear glasses just little things

1333
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:42,080
like that are kind of fun and they keep you in the physical body this is like an

1334
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,880
actor from an acting perspective I'm someone who like I fully feel in the

1335
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:49,920
character when I'm like in a costume or something like that like I was doing a

1336
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,880
show where we were in period it was a period show and so we like rehearsed

1337
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:57,120
every time in corsets and petticoats and that like really helped key you in

1338
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:01,160
because it like affects the way that you sit in the way that you like exist

1339
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:06,400
because you're wearing these clothes next is me yeah so weren't you in

1340
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:13,040
perspective stuff so Jesus for anyone that is interested in DMing this is

1341
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:18,120
gonna be more directed towards them this is kind of some general things that I

1342
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:23,960
like to think of when I'm trying to get into certain NPCs so crazy lady is a

1343
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:29,680
great example I know what her motivation is deeply like I have written that out I

1344
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:35,000
know her character I'm basing her off of another character that I in like a piece

1345
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:41,200
of fiction that I love with my heart and so I have a very strong sense of who she

1346
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:45,960
is of what her character motivation is what her personality is like what's her

1347
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:51,120
background what is her purpose in the story like it the one thing about being

1348
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:55,360
a DM that's different than the players is that the players are in the story fully

1349
01:21:55,360 --> 01:22:00,920
all the time 110% as a DM you're kind of doing double work when you're role

1350
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:05,120
playing an NPC it's not just here's the character motivation here's what they

1351
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,000
sound like here's where they're from and then like to do to have fun

1352
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:14,080
interacting the the sort of double mission yeah like the separate side to

1353
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:19,480
that is their purpose they have a purpose in the story whether that purpose

1354
01:22:19,480 --> 01:22:24,880
is to progress whether that purpose is to antagonize whether that purpose is to

1355
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:30,120
provoke some emotional response or to set up a hook later keeping in mind what

1356
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:37,080
your every time your NPC is in a room or on stage or are just on focus not like

1357
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:41,160
also keep in mind what they're there to do what are they supposed to accomplish

1358
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,960
because the personality of a character when I'm writing them in concept might

1359
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,400
not line up with what I ultimately want their purpose in the story to serve and

1360
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:53,320
so I have to kind of switch it up or I have to divvy it up a little bit and so

1361
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:58,200
that like really getting into an NPC as a DM because you have to role play

1362
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,400
multiple different personalities multiple character motivations multiple

1363
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,280
purposes all in the same session sometimes and it gets exhausting and the

1364
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:09,360
way that I like to really differentiate that is again have very specific ideas

1365
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:13,000
and details about those NPCs before you go into it it doesn't matter if they're

1366
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,200
small if they're big think of very medial things think of very key things

1367
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:21,120
that like if a player asked what is this person like you can tell them or you

1368
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:25,240
will have a good idea of how to answer that question think of whose friend are

1369
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:29,720
they like what neighborhood are they from it say they're trying to burn the

1370
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:34,080
city down why what's the backstory for that are they just a fucking anarchist

1371
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,520
is it like let's just like this shit up things are getting boring yeah okay if

1372
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,120
their character motivation is let's light the shit up things are getting

1373
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,760
boring what's happened in a childhood to spur them on that where they should have

1374
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,760
psychopathed they have like a really boring childhood and they discovered

1375
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,520
they had all these powers and it's like I'm gonna do whatever I want to I'm a

1376
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,040
god cool that leads me into like they're hubris they're confident they're

1377
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,800
boisterous they're like they're gonna be funny in moments they shouldn't be

1378
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:00,000
they're gonna be arrogant and like I have a whole personality in a way that I

1379
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,640
want to roleplay them just based on what their motivation is and what their goal

1380
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,240
in the story is supposed to be so you can work at it from multiple different

1381
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:11,840
angles is a DM and you kind of have to because they're not just players their

1382
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:17,520
NPCs and they are ultimately there to serve a purpose that's my spiel nice

1383
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,280
spiel also sometimes it just helps to do the opposite of what you would do in

1384
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,360
real life I put that there is a little note truly if you get stumped in a role

1385
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:27,120
playing moment think this is what I would say and then do whatever the fucking

1386
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,440
like do do it over the opposite of that is yeah that's always a fun thing to do

1387
01:24:30,440 --> 01:24:34,080
also as a person in this moment be like it's over there well I'm playing a crazy

1388
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,960
NPC and I just don't know what to go with it it's not there it's just lie it's

1389
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:42,320
over that way completely wrong direction just lie just lie just that's the DM tag

1390
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:46,240
line if you just got to get the fuck out of a situation just lie just make it up

1391
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:51,720
because they don't know the difference in real life to um yeah let's speed run

1392
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,080
the last yeah warm ups this is just something kind of like we don't in

1393
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,720
character be Daisy I'm gonna ask these and they'll get to see what it's like

1394
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,920
okay you can answer a question in characters a fun little table warm up

1395
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:07,480
let's do it what's your best party trick um I can I can I can do a handstand and

1396
01:25:07,480 --> 01:25:11,760
drink water at the same time I don't know if that's physically possible five

1397
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:18,120
things that make you happy um comic books my best friend Parker like a really

1398
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:22,120
good iced coffee like when you can't tell that there's like several extra shots

1399
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:29,040
of like espresso in it anytime that I get like more than three retweets on one

1400
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:40,840
of my posts and oh when like someone like tweets about me

1401
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:50,480
um trolley problem you got a switch you got one person on one set of tracks

1402
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:54,240
you got five people on the other set of tracks the if you don't pull the switch

1403
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,040
the train's gonna hit the five people if you do pull the switch it's only gonna

1404
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,440
hit the one person what do you do I'm jumping in front of the train to stop

1405
01:26:00,440 --> 01:26:04,600
it before it hits anyone else so fucking valid describe yourself in three words

1406
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:11,520
um I'm just here what did you want to be when you were a little kid superhero

1407
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,800
well actually I mean like I didn't think that I would be be able to like be a

1408
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:20,360
superhero because that's like a freak thing um so I wanted to be like I wanted

1409
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:24,080
to work for a publishing company that like publishes comic books that's so

1410
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:30,600
that's so cute tell us your character's favorite joke I wrote these not with the

1411
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:34,800
intention of actually answering any of these now you're on I do not know um I

1412
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:41,320
I cannot genuinely think of any joke best meal you've ever had what's the

1413
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,040
equivalent of like a fast food place of this universe literally it's all the

1414
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:49,240
same there was this McDonald's like I got a big mac one time when I was drunk at

1415
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,400
like three in the morning and I shouldn't have been like drinking in like

1416
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,600
superheroic at the same time but I definitely wasn't they gave me a discount

1417
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,840
actually because I was in costumes so they were like oh you're like a superhero

1418
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:04,000
and I was like yeah and so I ate it on top of the building describe your

1419
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:13,200
characters personal hell um Jesus fuck yeah pretty much

1420
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:20,240
okay well normally you have like time I didn't know I was gonna be put on the

1421
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:24,720
fucking spot today and just told getting character do it speedrun the rest of

1422
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,480
them yeah we're not gonna actually do the rest of this this shit would take

1423
01:27:27,480 --> 01:27:31,400
forever tell the party a story is your character maybe it's something from your

1424
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,840
backstory or like a funny inconsequential thing that's happened to them but just

1425
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,640
like just something that's happened it does a little bit of world building for

1426
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,480
the other characters that also is just like fun for you to get into that space

1427
01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:44,880
play a card game in character this that sounds like a fucking fun one Kim's or

1428
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:49,000
cards against humanity like two examples very from like an actual physical

1429
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,760
card game of like go fish or old mate or like some shit like that yeah to like

1430
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:56,400
cards against humanity or we've got this game like stir the pot we're like who's

1431
01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:00,360
most likely or you can even play games like never have I ever I think if you

1432
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,480
have the time to play games like that that would be so much fucking fun to

1433
01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:07,240
play in character this last one is definitely on here because she's done

1434
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:11,320
this yes it's eat a meal together if you were playing yeah so if you're playing

1435
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,120
Friday night you're eating pizza you're doing whatever you guys got take out

1436
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:19,560
which is this you know we've never done this but it could be fun like pretend

1437
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,040
that your party stopping in for a bite at a tavern or is like rolling up to the

1438
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:27,400
fast food place in costume yeah like oh my god like like the fucking Avengers

1439
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:31,320
Swarma thing that happened in the first like like that 100% do that we need to

1440
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,920
do the Avengers Swarma thing yeah like you guys like destroy like a fast food

1441
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:38,040
or like I don't know the city gets like obliterated and y'all just like save the

1442
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,680
day and sit down on like a fast food place and it's like cool I'm gonna go get

1443
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,000
food we're gonna come back staying character yeah and then of course we did

1444
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:48,360
last one on here expert mode make a meal thematic to your game and eat it

1445
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:52,840
together we did when we did I for Christmas I bought the house because

1446
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:57,240
everyone who lives in the house plays in this different I bought us except for

1447
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:04,120
one I bought us the D&D cookbook and because I'm and we were all going on

1448
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,200
fall break together and we were staying in a cabin and part of the reason that we

1449
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:11,000
like one of the things that we looked at in the air B&B that we were gonna stay

1450
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,120
in with how big the table was legitimately because we wanted like a

1451
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:19,760
really nice table to play D&D at yeah a big legitimately a pretty large part of

1452
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:24,320
the choosing select the choosing like it was election process holy fuck I can't

1453
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:29,120
think today so I was like okay I want to do like a big D&D meal I want to do like

1454
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:32,440
and it was like a more classic environment of D&D I mean it was a

1455
01:29:32,440 --> 01:29:36,600
tower it was the World Servants Inn which we've mentioned before so I was like

1456
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:41,600
okay I want to be like kind of like D&D-ish food and so I ended up making

1457
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:46,520
this like really it was a huge meal and it took several hours of prep I did a

1458
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:50,560
like and this was also I was feeding like 12 people you know feeding a lot so I

1459
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:59,400
did beef stew I did hand pies with like a beef and bacon filling I did pasta I

1460
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:04,920
did like a bread appetizer with some dipping oils I did salad I did grilled

1461
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:09,920
asparagus and I absolve and then mini pies for dessert so it was all a very

1462
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:14,680
good food I like displayed it all and we all ate it while we were like playing

1463
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:19,000
this like what was basically like the mid-season finale is what I call it in my

1464
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:24,200
head like our campaign and we didn't end up like being we were gonna originally

1465
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,120
like sit down in character and like eat the meal but we didn't end up doing that

1466
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:32,080
but in an ideal world like if you want to be like really boozy with it make a

1467
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:36,440
meal that like would fit like what your it's just kind of and we've talked about

1468
01:30:36,440 --> 01:30:40,000
trying to do one for the current campaign setting we're in I mean you

1469
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,920
basically just it's just like fast food like that's so funny to me Walmart like

1470
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:49,400
it's just like normal ass places that just are a little more high-tech like

1471
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:53,200
we're not going the wall around it's not like fucking slopping a cup oh I

1472
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:57,920
have a little I'm saying it's not like flavor gruel or anything yeah it's very

1473
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:03,280
much just like just one morning you might like doordash McDonald's and it's

1474
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:06,920
like cool you guys are taking a break inside of a restaurant or just stop it

1475
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:11,320
on the way in full costume yeah like that's fun that's funny and it helps you

1476
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,320
like getting character with your table it's like table bonding it's like team

1477
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:19,760
building exercise and team building awesome we are finally at the end of all

1478
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,840
of our notes thank you master for putting all that together I had no

1479
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:26,920
working coming up with that list I like doing acting shit so thank you all for

1480
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:31,280
tuning into another episode of table talk once again we have no clue what we'll be

1481
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:37,120
talking about next time we never really do even when they say we do see you later

1482
01:31:37,120 --> 01:32:02,400
bye-bye