And then Steven enters the house.
He goes, the party has arrived.
Yeah.
And then he like points like who?
I don't know.
Steven is something else.
Hello and welcome back to another episode of Millennial TV and Season 2 of Laguna Beach.
As always we are your hosts, Candace, Adrian, and Liz.
Today we are recapping Laguna Beach Season 2, Episode 16, Nothing More to Say.
Just a reminder that we do this every week and you can watch along with us on Paramount
Plus in the US or CTV in Canada.
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We're so excited to hear from you.
So today just happens to be menstrual hygiene day.
Thank you, Adrian, for letting me in on that one.
So instead of pop culture, we decided to celebrate by sharing some of our embarrassing, sometimes
funny period nightmares with you all.
So buckle up or tune it out.
Here we go.
We figured that since most of our listeners are surprise, surprise women, it would be
really fun to share these stories because who doesn't love a good period story?
So I can go first.
So I was always one of those kids that wanted to do like teenage things before I was clearly
ready.
My sister is seven years older than me and everything that I saw her go through, like
I wanted to do.
So she wore a bra.
I freaking wanted to wear a bra.
But I was clearly too young because I had no boobies yet.
So every time she would literally like stick her arms through like her little bra, I'd
be like, don't hook it.
Let me hook it.
And I would run in the back and freaking hook her bra, which is crazy.
And if she hears this on the podcast, she's going to kill me.
But that was so cute.
So every year when they would do sex ed in school, they would also cover menstruation
in my school.
And every single year we would do anonymous questions.
And my question would always be, when will you get your period?
And I knew, okay, I knew that everyone's time was different, but I just had to ask it every
single year in case someone would tell me a different answer.
And all through that time, I would be the kid that was in chapters or whatever bookstore
reading books about my body's going through changes.
Because I was just such a curious kid.
And I would like hide it in other books.
But now I'm like, dude, everyone probably knew.
And there were huge pictures of like, what does your vagina look like?
I even remember one that was like, you should pick up a handheld mirror and sit on your bed
and like look at your vagina to like.
That's good advice.
It is good advice.
Everybody should do that.
Yeah.
You should know what it looks like.
Yeah, to get familiar with what it looks like, you know, because you would never really
look down there otherwise.
But anyways, all that to say, I was very excited when I got my period.
And that happened in middle school when I think I was in grade seven, so about 14 years
old.
I signed up for a twister competition thing at school during lunchtime.
And I felt a little bit of like a stomach cramp or stomach ache.
And after the competition was over, I went to the bathroom and I was like, oh my God,
I got my period.
But I was so excited, but also so nervous at the same time.
Even though I felt like I was so prepared, I asked my best friend for a pad and she gave
one to me.
But I was so panicked about it.
I literally put it on my underwear, didn't even take the sticky part off.
So like did not stick to my underwear.
It was just like floating.
Floating.
Yeah.
My gosh.
And then when I went home, I was like, oh, I didn't even see that sticky part.
Like in the moment, it was just like, put it down.
Let's go.
Oh my God.
Wait, how old were you?
14.
Okay.
So did you tell your parents when you got home?
Oh yeah.
I was like, I got my period.
So you were like excited.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
That's so funny because I like, I was like, this is the worst thing that could ever happen
to me.
So my sister and my mom had really terrible periods and I knew that like, like growing
up, like, you know, you're around it.
They're like complaining.
You know, my sister was like in bed on her periods, like they were so bad.
So I was like, oh my God, like, I don't want that to ever happen to me.
I was 11.
I just turned 11 and I was going into summer and I was going to summer camp with my best
friend, Kelsey.
It was like a day camp and mom dropped me off in the morning and she'd been saying for a
long time, like, you're getting boobs.
So you're going to start a period.
And I was like, no way.
I'm not going to happen to me.
No, I don't want it.
So I got to camp that morning and everything was normal and then I had to go to the bathroom
and I went to the bathroom and there was something in my underwear that wasn't normally there.
And I remember just like instant panic.
I was like in the stall and Kelsey was with me and I just went, Kelsey.
And she was like, yeah.
And I was like, I think I started my period.
And like, she was like, she was like, oh my God, okay, I'm going to go run and get a
hair.
Oh, Kelsey had already started her.
She started very young.
So she was like, well-versed, but she didn't have anything with her.
And so she ran and got a counselor.
A counselor came.
We were also young that they weren't expecting it.
So she had to like drive to the store to get me pads.
What?
They didn't have any.
They didn't have anything.
Wait, how old were you?
I was 11.
They should have had some.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
They didn't have anything.
So they ran to the store and buy me like a whole pack of pads.
So I'm in the bathroom waiting because I- The whole time?
Yeah.
So like an hour probably.
Yeah.
Kelsey's in there with me, of course, because she's a solid friend.
She's talking to me and like I'm just hanging out on the toilet.
And so she comes back with these pads and she's like, do you know how to use them?
I'm like, no?
Like I'm like, yeah.
How would you know?
No.
So she explains to me how to use them and I'm like, okay.
And I'm the whole time I'm waiting for like pain to start because the only thing in my
brain about periods is like it's like excruciating pain because of my mom and my sister.
So I'm sitting there like, I don't feel anything.
Like what's going to happen?
So then I got it into my head.
Oh, it must happen when you pee.
Like the pain must be associated with the pee because I was like blood comes out.
Like it's the same thing.
I thought it was the same.
So I held my pee all day.
Oh, because I was terrified that it was going to hurt.
And I remember I got home and my sister was like, what's wrong with you?
Because I was like doing like a pee pee dance, you know, and she's like, what's wrong with
you?
And I'm like, I really have to go to the bathroom and she's like, go to the bathroom.
And I'm like, it's going to hurt.
And she's like, oh my God, no, we'll just go.
You'll feel so much better.
So I went and she's like, do you feel better?
I'm like, yeah.
And she actually asked me into the world of periods after that.
She like told me everything and how it works and like how to use everything.
And I was still like, I couldn't swallow pills yet.
So I was taking like liquid Tylenol for cramps.
I know.
I was like, I was such a baby.
Yeah.
Such a baby.
I was terrified.
I didn't want it to happen.
I was not excited at all.
I was not like, I'm finally a woman.
I was like, this sucks.
None of my other friends has started yet other than Kelsey.
So like, I felt like, I don't know, I was just like not ready.
And then I was like, I'm the only sixth grader that has to carry around pads with her.
Like I was like convinced that I was the only one and I was so embarrassed by it.
And like having to go to the bathroom and take it with you.
I was just like, this is terrible in sixth grade.
Oh, I mean, I think we said it before, but even now, like when you don't like,
flash it when you're carrying it to the bathroom, shove it in your like,
sleeve or something, but like, we shouldn't.
Yeah.
Why do we do that?
We shouldn't.
At this point, I, I genuinely don't care.
I, I'm like, yeah, I have a period.
I'm a woman.
Like I genuinely don't care.
And I like people make fun of me because like when I have to like buy pads and stuff,
I'm like plopping them on the thing.
Like I don't care.
Like I'm like, yeah, on my period, here's the ibuprofen.
Like I don't care.
I don't care at the store, but like taking a pad, like if I'm at a restaurant to
like go to the bathroom, I'll still like bring my purse or like bring it in like a thing.
Yeah.
Were your cramps as bad as your moms and your sisters were?
Eventually, yes, but I actually was like cramp less for like the first three times.
Only three times.
Yeah.
And then I was like, this isn't so bad.
And then I know I was like, this isn't so bad.
And then the fourth time I was like, oh my God, I get it now.
Like I was dying.
So we all have endometriosis.
So that doesn't help.
This matters at all.
But yeah, I was always like down for the count.
Like I miss school so many times on the first day of my periods because I just could not
handle it.
And I'm going to say this because I didn't know it when I was younger, but if you have
to alter your life in any way, like majorly where you're missing work or school to the
point where you can't get out of bed.
There is something wrong and that's not normal.
And you need to like go to your OBGYN and tell them because I just thought this is normal.
My mom and sister have this pain.
I have this pain.
Like everybody gets cramped, but it's not normal if it's affecting your day today.
You should be able to like pop a couple of ibuprofen and power through.
That was not the case for me.
So don't feel like you can't like it's just normal.
If it's not normal to you, then it's not.
And go get checked out.
Super important.
Menstrual hygiene day.
Yeah.
Before I share my first period story, yours, Adrienne reminded me of just a funny thing
about the book that you said, you like you would get the books of nature.
So we bought a book for the girls.
That's like our bodies like a book, like it's like cartoons sort of, but it is like that
because it's like so important that they know what their body parts are called rather than
using like weird pet names, you know, and so I wanted to get like a kid friendly book for
that.
And so we did and it's a really good book and it tells like how babies are born and all
that stuff.
But there is one page where it's literally just like a naked man and a naked woman and
it's like pointing all the body parts out and it's like super kid friendly, obviously,
but Sloan go at like so into the book for like a week or so and she was carrying it around
all the time and she would just open that page and be like, look at that.
She would be like, look mom and I'm like, yeah, there's the naked people.
Oh my gosh, like she's going to take this to school without me knowing it or something.
So she's like today for showing how to learn about our bodies.
Yeah, even like it's so good, right?
That you're trying to normalize like all the body parts and stuff for your kid.
But like something about it, man, kids just know kids just know that there's something
like funny or special about the naked body.
Yeah, yeah, even when Charlie will say something like my vagina, blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, it sounds so weird coming from a story.
I know, I know, but it is so important.
Yeah, it's very important.
It's so important that they call it what it's actually called and not like the yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
So important.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I think it's so important that they call it what it's called.
Like what's out there for that kind of thing.
So having to sit down here, like four year old and be like, how do I explain this?
Yeah.
So hard.
So I got my first period when I was 13 and my cousin was actually getting married
that weekend and I was a bridesmaid in the wedding.
And I remember being like really mean to my mom, like the days leading up to the
age of 12 and I really remember her like telling me at one point, like, why are you
acting this way?
And I'm like, I don't know.
So luckily I was at home when I started, but it was like two days before this wedding
and I went to go to the bathroom and I had blood all in my underwear and I had no idea.
Like I didn't even think it was my period.
And so I called for my mom and I told her that I think I had diarrhea in my pants.
Oh my God.
I know.
I was like, I don't know what happened.
And she was just like, Oh no, you got your period.
Like she was all excited.
And then she was like, okay, it makes sense of why I was acting like such a brat like
the whole week.
So I was glad to be at home and she was able to like show me what to do pretty much like
right then and there.
But I remember being so self conscious at my cousin's wedding because I'm sure my mom told
some of my like aunts and cousins.
And so I was just like, everyone knows like it was so, I felt so self conscious.
But yeah, it wasn't too bad.
Wait, how old were you?
I was 13.
13.
Okay.
I'm jealous that you guys got more time.
Yeah, you were so.
I was really little.
I was going to say to you that I didn't start using tampons until I was like 17 because
I was too scared to try.
I'm actually not able to use them anymore because when I gave birth to Sloan, I tore really
bad and I have a ton of scar tissue.
And so if I try to use a tampon now, it's like insanely painful, which sucks.
Yeah.
I use a menstrual cup now, which is way better.
So that doesn't bother like, no, it's weird.
The menstrual cup is fine because it's like rubber, but the tampon because it's like paper.
It's the taking it out part that it like rubs on like where I have scar tissue and it's like
excruciatingly painful.
So I just can't do it anymore.
It's crazy.
I've tried the cup.
I just could never, I don't know.
It hurts to put it in.
I feel like it's very awkward.
Yeah, you have to really figure out like a good method of getting it in.
Yeah.
I can't get into the cup idea.
Like how do you take it out without getting a mess?
It's really not messy at all.
Yeah.
Really?
You just kind of like, you squeeze it and just pull it out gently and then everything stays
in the cup.
And it's like, you think there's going to be a ton of blood in there, but it's really not
a lot ever.
It's, and then I just rinse it off in the shower or the, you know, yeah.
Well, I don't know if I could do that just because I can't wear tampons either because
when I initially first started to try having it in was terribly painful and would make
my cramp worse.
I don't know why, but it was always like that.
So then I just stopped trying.
I don't know if it would be like that with a cup or not.
Obviously never tried it, but yeah, what I think is really cool is the period underwear
that's coming out.
I want to try those.
I tried, thanks the brand or was it Nix?
I can't remember whatever store there is in Toronto and they have this like leak proof
guarantee.
So if it doesn't work for you, you can literally bring the period underwear back and they'll
take it back and refund your money, which is amazing.
And so I bought a pair and I wore it and literally leaked through the entire underwear
onto my chair.
I have a stain chair now.
I'm like period blood, but needless to say, I didn't use it because like it didn't work
for me.
Man, I really want to try it.
And I think it does work for some people because I feel like it's whether you're period.
Okay, TMI, but I think that when I tried it, I had just gotten like a fresh wax.
So there was no hair to, you know, like be a filter.
Yeah.
I would guide it where to go all my bloods, it was just like everywhere.
I mean, I would love them if they work.
Try one and don't shave.
Don't wax.
If anyone's had success with period underwear, I would be so curious if you tell us whether
you're waxed or you're not.
Yes.
That's my new theory.
Well, happy menstrual day, everyone.
Happy menstrual day.
Tell us your period horror stories.
We love it.
May we all get our periods on the same day.
May we all sink up.
Yeah.
Okay, so we start with a previously on and Kristin says Jason and Lauren were still into
each other, but he couldn't control himself around Jessica.
Then we see clips of the fashion show and Jason kissing Jessica while Lauren watches.
Kristin says Lauren was pissed and Jason was devastated, but now that summer is coming
to an end, Lauren decided to throw this big farewell party and she invited someone I would
have never expected.
So the first scene is Lauren, Jen, Bunny and Dieter at Lauren's house and Lauren asks,
when does everybody leave?
And Jen replies that she leaves in a week and Dieter leaves in four days.
And I just have to say Dieter looked so cute in this scene with his little hat and his
little beanie.
Okay, but why was it so low to his eyebrows?
It was like all the way down.
I don't know.
But it sent me back to that time in my life because I was a sucker for a boy and a beanie
hat.
Oh, that's funny.
That was like it, especially if they had like skater boy hair underneath.
Just the bang showing.
Yeah.
I was like, I would have been into Dieter just for the hat right now.
Oh God, Candice.
I know.
I knew you were going to say that too.
When I wrote it down, I was like, Adrienne's going to give me shit for that because it's
Dieter.
Well, I actually thought you guys were going to say something different.
I put Jen's hair looks nice.
And I'm like, ooh, they're not going to like that.
I don't literally, this is going to sound so bad, but I try to spend the least amount
of time looking at Jen.
That's so bad.
That's so mean.
Watch out.
We're going to get her as a guest.
I know.
And she's going to be like, all of the things that you said about me.
Yeah.
I was like, over it.
And that's not even me.
Yeah.
How she talks.
Oh, Jen.
Jen Bunny.
Jen the rat.
Our pet rat.
Yeah.
Our pet rat, Jen Bunny.
So Lauren asks that they're going to do something before everyone leaves.
And Dieter says, do you know what my dream would be?
I want everyone here.
We get a bunch of cool food and Lauren completely cuts them off.
And she's like, no, this is what it's going to be.
We're all going to get dressed up and we're going to get it catered.
And I'm like, holy crap.
I want a catered party.
I know.
Yeah.
Can I come?
I know.
I first of all, it looks like a like chill vibe party.
Like I would have totally loved to go to something like that, especially catered.
Oh yeah.
So Lauren asked who she's going to invite to her house and Dieter immediately jokingly
says Jessica, Jason and Lauren replies, are you insane?
Why would I ever invite that girl?
I mean, not for Jessica, but for Jessica.
I know.
Wait, what?
Yeah.
Not for Jessica, but for Jessica because I love her.
Then Dieter says that she should invite Kristen because she's so much more mellow now.
What does that mean?
Yeah.
What does that even mean?
Like that they're not fighting or she was like wild before.
Yeah.
That's what he makes it sound like.
To be fair, she was Euro drama at the fashion show.
That's true.
And I think that was part of the reason Lauren ends up inviting her.
Okay.
I'm pretty sure they're talking about her being mellow because didn't she like fight
Lauren in the bathroom like a year ago?
Okay.
Yeah.
So fine.
She was mellow at the fashion show, but in terms of like what we see on the show.
Okay.
Not her wild bathroom.
So Lauren says that she's over it and they're going to be living in the same town in LA is a small place, which I said is funny because it's not, but
they run in the same circles.
So that makes sense.
Right.
They would have been in the same places at the same time.
So I can't get that, but it's not, it's not small.
I don't know.
I like it's huge, but okay.
It's funny because I'm like, they live in the same rich part, but like what if one of them was like living in Rosita and the other one?
Like, you know, like the Hollywood Hills, like that they're never going to cross.
They would not run into each other.
No.
It's funny.
It's like, no, Hollywood is small.
LA is large.
It's gigantic.
Yeah.
So Lauren's phone rings and she makes a face and Jen asked her if it's Jason and she nods and she doesn't answer and she says, I can't talk to him.
Then Jen asks, he's not invited to our party.
No, he's not allowed at my house, not after the benefit and I freaking love this about her dad.
I think people were like kind of on the fence about it because it's kind of weird and controlling, but I love that her dad was like have enough respect for yourself and my family.
He's not allowed here.
He's not coming into my house.
He disrespected you.
That's it.
Because that's how like my dad would have been.
Yeah, I didn't take that as controlling.
I took that as like I'm protecting my daughter and like, yeah, did this horrible thing in front of everybody.
So you're not allowed at our house.
Yeah.
And I love it.
I love that he's not allowed at her house and I think it makes him be like, oh, like I'm not.
I can't mess with the house.
Yeah.
Right.
And like her family knows I'm a piece of shit now.
You know what I mean?
Like I'm not allowed in her house.
I feel like I was surprised that Lauren said it out loud because I feel like I would be embarrassed to be like, oh, my dad said you can't come.
Like as if like, yeah, you're still following your parents rules, but it's kind of different because like it lays the groundwork that like you are such a piece of shit and like I'm not.
Yeah, yeah.
And like we all hate you basically.
So like, exactly.
Come near me again.
So yeah, it's kind of cool that she said that.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And I love Lauren in this episode, I think she stands up for herself really well.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I love it.
I love the whole situation, but I also want to like slap Jen Benny like no, he's not invited to my party after he just kissed a girl in front of me.
Back wagon.
Can you have the same hate for a Deeter who made that like annoying ass joke?
I mean, that was kind of funny.
Oh my God, the double standard.
I mean, you love it though.
We love it.
We love Candice's weird opinions on things.
She stands who she stands.
Okay.
I stand who I stand.
That's the truth.
Ain't it.
So the next scene is Talon Tess and it's Jason and Talon and Talon walks into this scene saying flavor, play.
I know.
And I was like, I love it.
Racking up.
If you don't get this reference, you are not a millennial flavor play with an icon of his time and he's a slipty.
So we love it.
And okay, for all the listeners, I don't I can't remember what Candice posted, but like he liked one of our Instagram stories.
He did.
Brando.
Somebody suggested that we do flavor of love next and he liked it or no, he viewed it.
But yeah, I was cracking up because there are some things about this show that are timeless and that was not that put me right back into the 2000s like right away.
Actually, this whole scene did it was like the 2000 Ligo was wild, but he asked Jason what he's doing and he sits down with what looks like sushi.
Okay, and he offers Jason some and Jason says, Gucci, what are these?
And I again, 2000s Ligo so funny.
I forgot that Gucci was a thing that people used to say.
And I met like, I don't even like, like awesome or like good.
Yeah, like cool.
People would say like, how are you be like Gucci?
Yeah.
That's so weird thinking about that.
No, you don't know that's what that meant and I just, oh my God, I was cracking up.
But also I loved how Talon was just like, he just like waltzed in with a plate of sushi.
Yeah, casually bringing sushi to Jason.
I was like, where did this come from and like, yeah, and then he's like feeding Jason this.
Yeah, I'm like, my God.
So yeah, Jason asked, he says, Gucci, what are these and Talon says my mom, which is also 2000s.
Oh yeah.
That's boy humor.
And it's like so glazed over and like it's funny because I feel like Jason's like, dude,
we're filming because the face he makes and like the laugh that's on his like smile.
I'm just like, he thinks this is ridiculous because like it's obviously.
You don't think that his mom made them like made the sushi.
Yeah.
He says, what are these?
Oh, okay.
I totally thought that like, oh my mom made these.
He might have.
I don't know.
Maybe I missed it.
But I thought he said, what are these and he says my mom like literally right after.
And then Jason like is smiling at him like an idiot.
So I was like, that's such a stupid joke.
Like a yo mama joke.
Yeah.
Or like, I mean, I would have said like your mom.
Right.
You know, but I just, I thought it was funny, but maybe, maybe we're missing a little bit of dialogue.
It's like editing because like, yeah, my mom, that's weird.
Yeah.
So then talent says, sounds like you had a rough night, lost love your life.
Nah, I'm just kidding.
And then Jason says funny dude and talent says it got worse and Jason agrees and says it got worse.
He's literally the worst.
Then talent says that chick like loved you dude.
I was like, you and Jason and she was like, dude, I love that kid.
Jason asks if it was before or after what happened and talent says before.
Obviously.
Like she is not into you anymore.
So talent says, I didn't mean to make you feel bad.
And Jason says, dude, it sucks because I really liked her and it wasn't supposed to happen like that.
Like I wanted to like marry the chick.
God, why does Jessica have to be there infuriating infuriating like because it's entirely just because fault.
I hate this conversation.
I hate all of it.
I do love though that talent is like he talks shit not only to the girls but like clearly to his guy friends too.
Like making it worse.
Like I kind of love that actually.
So talent says that Lauren feels hurt because you put so much into the relationship.
He tells Jason to call and say, I'll see I need you to talk to me but I literally need to sit down and have a person to person conversation.
I'll meet you anywhere anytime.
Would you guys have responded to something like that after he kissed another girl in front of you?
I want to say no but I probably would have.
Same for closure.
I feel like I would have too.
Yeah.
Oh, 100%.
There's no way that I would have been like no.
I would have wanted to hear what he had to say and I would have wanted to get back together.
No.
Okay.
I don't know what's getting back together but I want to hear what he had to say.
I'm a sucker and I know it.
I told you guys that story about my first real boyfriend and he cheated on me a bunch and then broke up with me and I got with somebody else a couple weeks later, like rebound.
And I remember he instant messaged me, like AOL instant messaged me and told me that I ruined everything and that we were supposed to get back together.
And now we're never getting back together.
Yeah.
And I was devastated.
And of course, like he didn't actually mean that he was just mad that I was dating somebody else.
But I was like, what do you mean we were going to get back together?
Like I still love you.
It was really upsetting.
And yeah, he told me that I ruined everything and I was supposed to like wait for him without like knowing that apparently.
Wow.
Without him ever telling me that I was supposed to wait for him.
So yeah, would I have met him?
Absolutely 100%.
Would I have wanted to get back together?
100%.
At least I know myself, you know.
Would you have had the same fury towards him though that Lauren had?
To feel like that kind of thing.
Just seeing another girl in front of me.
Yeah.
Yeah, because honestly, cheating in front of me is totally different.
It's way different.
If I don't see it, then it's kind of like out of sight, out of mind, I can pretend it didn't happen.
Yeah, right.
But like if I'm looking at it in the face, that's totally different.
So I think it might have been a little bit different of a situation and like I didn't know these girls.
He actually lived like a 40 minute drive.
So he lived with his dad and Tracy and then he lived with his mom on the weekends, like in my hometown.
So I didn't see him very often and he went to like a totally different school and everything.
So I didn't know these girls.
So it was much easier for me to be like, that didn't really happen.
You know what I mean?
But with Lauren, it's kind of right in front of her face.
Yeah, that's way different.
So then we see Kristen, Jessica and Alex at the beach and Kristen asks if they're going to Lawrence tonight and Alex says she's not sure if she is, but Jessica says she's not.
Kristen asks why and Jessica says, are you serious and Alex says, think of the situation.
Jessica says, I'm not going to go on her territory after I like hooked up with her boyfriend.
And Kristen says, you create a little bit of drama I can't believe you would do that to Lauren and Alex says with Jason and like pushes her and Kristen says, obviously I love you 20 more times than Lauren but like you just don't do that.
Yeah, when person is sticking up for Lauren, you know you did something wrong.
Oh yeah.
And Jessica says, are you kidding me. I hate people who do that. Are you kidding me.
And Kristen says, well you're one of them.
Oh my God. I hate that you Kristen but I also love that she like holds her friends accountable.
Yes.
Yeah, well Jessica needs it.
Yeah.
And then Alex asks, did you seriously kiss Jason and Kristen answers for her and says yeah.
And then Jessica says, can I tell you something without you like freaking out it wasn't like I pursued him and tried to kiss him and just happened.
He grabbed my face. We kissed. Yeah, it takes two people to do that stuff. So yeah, I'm at fault too but it's not like I went and pursued him.
Where do we stand on this ladies. I know last week I said the Jessica leaned in or whatever.
But I don't know this whole conversation just makes me cringe and I don't know where I stand anymore.
I mean I still feel like he initiated the kiss but I think like for her to even be playing into it with him and just like be open to it is why she's in the wrong too.
And even just like the flirting with him and stuff that happened before that even went down like she was she wanted that to happen.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know I do love Jessica and like it clouds my judgment sometimes but they're just both wrong. They're both wrong.
I will say I think it's funny that Jessica's defense mechanism is to say like, I hate people who do that.
Yeah.
It's just funny like it's always the same like you can't possibly hate people who do that because you literally just that's waited. Yeah, you are that person.
So then we see Alex and Taylor and Morgan and the scene starts with Taylor saying so Lauren's party tonight it's going to be fun but then at the end having to say goodbye to everyone.
And they all say it's really sad and it's the last time they'll all really be together.
And Alex wonders if Kristen will come say goodbye and Morgan says I wouldn't count on it. Taylor says she doesn't think person's ever been to Lauren's house before.
And Taylor says that it sucks when it's the girl you hate and you walk in and the house is amazing and you're like this makes me hate her more.
Which, yeah, if I was person I wouldn't want to walk into Lauren's house either. That's insane.
I honestly can't believe she ends up doing it but barely.
Oh, I know. I would have been so uncomfortable. So then they talk about dress code and what they should wear before wondering if Jessica is coming and Morgan says that she heard that she wasn't invited and she's not allowed.
I mean, duh. Yeah. Yeah.
And Taylor says Lauren is really hurt. She really liked Jason and Alex says everyone just needs to get over Jason like come on. When do people learn? And I'm like you're one to talk Alex. You dated him after Jessica and he cheated her like shit.
I also loved Alex in this scene though and she's like freaking a.
I was still talking about Jason. Yeah.
I think it's really good in this scene like Taylor and Morgan. They did. Chunky necklaces going on. Like dark hair. Yeah, they just looked really cute. Alex looks really pretty. Yeah, they did all look really good.
Taylor looks really good these last couple episodes actually like she just some kiss and like ready to ready to go. She does. Yeah.
So then we move on to Lauren's party and we're at Lauren's house and we see her setting up for the party and we see low arrive Steven Dieter and Heidi. I think Heidi's already there actually.
Hang on. I have to tell you guys something about this scene. So.
Kyle watched this episode with me a while ago. And when Steven enters the house, he goes, the party has arrived.
And we laughed so hard at that. And then he like points like who I don't know. And so we have like been saying that to each other like forever since we.
So I told him I'm like we're doing the party has arrived episode tonight. We were just it was like, I don't know. It's just funny. Like when he comes home, like he said that to me a few times like the party has arrived.
So Steven is something else. He is so funny. Yeah.
I know you I actually think it's like kind of cute. It goes both ways to me. Yeah.
Say some of his awkward stuff because I can never like write it down because I'm just like I glaze right over it because I think he's so ridiculous.
Also, I feel like we've seen Lauren in this top before and I can't remember where but like her hair up in a ponytail is so pretty.
Yeah. And low by the way, she's in this with this like hair and she's I don't know like baggy housewife clothes.
I know. I know. What is this when she gets out of the car. I'm like, where is she going.
I'm meeting like it's very strange.
So Lauren and Steven are cuddling on a chair together and Lauren tells Steven that everyone is coming minus Jason and Jessica and Steven jokes. What are they doing tonight? Do they have a hot date tonight?
Like such an apple.
Yeah. And they all start eating as more people arrive. It's like Alex Taylor and Morgan and Taylor sits with Lauren and she tells her good on you for not letting Mr. And she trails off and Lauren whispers Jason.
Lauren says she told him that he is not welcome at her house anymore. Taylor says all of us were like, what is she doing? But at the same time, you have to see it for yourself. Lauren says that it sucks because she cares about him as a person and Taylor agrees that it sucks and that you want to be the one that is good for them.
Lauren says, you just have to hope that you're worth changing for heartbreaking.
I know. So sad.
I hate that she says that.
I know. And it's like, you never want to think that way.
No, but you do though. You still do.
I know. You always do.
Yeah.
So like I feel for her, but.
A healthy relationship neither person has to change. And it's, yeah, it just sucks that she feels that way. Yeah.
And then Taylor says that it's hard not to forgive him because it's like, he's so nice when he's saying sorry. And I was like, Taylor, what?
Of course he's nice when he's saying sorry.
And then Lauren says he's a good apologizer and Taylor says they all are, which I totally relate to.
And then Lauren says, boys suck.
Then we get a scene of Alex A to Kristen and Jessica eating and whatever they're eating looks delicious. It's like a sandwich.
I think they had subway. I was trying to figure it out.
I'm pretty sure it was subway because I thought it was like some gourmet sandwich place the way that Kristen was eating that sandwich.
I was like, why is she cutting it? It was really weird. And then we saw like the wrapper and it was like the green and yellow.
I thought it was some more.
I could be a sandwich flop.
Maybe it was.
I thought it was like what Jason brought during their Valentine's Day dinner. Like it reminded me of that.
I don't know what they had.
We need to know.
I know.
It looked good, whatever it was.
Yeah.
So, I think that's a good point.
I think that's a good point.
So, Alex says, do you guys think they're all having fun at Lauren's and Kristen says, yes.
She's like, got the little Thomo and Jessica says the two of them should go and Kristen says, no, could you imagine walking in?
And Alex says that they would be welcome because it's supposed to be a party for everyone to say goodbye.
Which if they stop by, would Alex leave with her if she wants to leave? And Alex says of course.
And then Jessica tells them they should go for the second time.
And Jessica looks super pumped to be telling them to go to a party together.
I love Alex. She's such a good friend. Like being like, I'll come with you. And if you feel awkward, I'll leave with you.
Oh my God, that's like standard.
Yeah.
But like, you know, some people don't do that. Like they want to be at the party more than.
Ew, really?
They'll come with you. Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I don't like that.
No, of course not.
I don't like that.
You know, the only thing I could stare at in this whole scene was Kristen's like highlight on her brow bone.
Like that was all I could see. That was like such a 2000s thing to like highlight your brow bone with a bit of shimmer.
And like when you're doing your makeup and I was just like, she looks so pretty in this scene.
Yeah.
Her makeup looks really good.
She does look pretty. She always looks pretty.
And like at the party, everyone is talking about how Taylor hasn't packed yet and she leaves on Tuesday.
Stephen and Lauren talk about leaving and how it didn't feel real.
And Stephen says he wasn't sure if he was depressed or not.
But the last couple of days leading up to it, he got pumped.
Kristen calls on the phone and Stephen asks her if she's fast and ably late or just tardy.
And Lauren tells Stephen to tell Kristen to get her little butt up here, which I thought was really cute actually.
Because like obviously like everyone's waiting to see what Lauren says and she's just like, tell her to come.
Yep.
And then we've lost to a scene of Kristen and Alex H driving up to Lauren's house and Kristen says, can we seriously be bitches only?
And then Alex sings it back to her.
And then Kristen says, I never thought I'd be driving up to Lauren's house and being like, yeah, let's go hang out.
And Kristen says she doesn't like the walking in part and Alex H says that it's because it's Lauren's territory.
And Kristen says she's going to college and there's no point in having this bitterness between them.
She says that the whole Stephen thing happened and it sucked that it happened.
And Alex says, I mean, that's not cool to steal someone's boyfriend.
I was so annoyed by that line.
Why though?
I was like, ain't nobody steal anybody's boyfriend.
That is like not what happened at all.
That was not the situation.
Well, wasn't like Lauren kind of getting it in there whilst Kristen and Stephen were kind of on and off?
They were on a break.
On a break.
Yeah.
You were on a break.
Yeah.
You know, okay.
So she makes it a point to say that she's going to college, but she's not going to college.
I noticed that too.
So it's so weird that she's like woven that in.
Maybe she was planning on it at first.
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so because that's when her and Alex H moved in together in LA after this.
Well, maybe MTV wanted it to sound like.
Definitely.
Yeah.
This was definitely MTV, but like they've gotten so good at just like, re-bing it into their own story that it was just so like, nonchalant.
Yeah.
Kristen says that she's over it and she doesn't like to hold grudges and she did for a long time with Lauren because she really loved Stephen and that wasn't cool.
Then they show Alex and Kristen walking through Lauren's gate.
Kristen gives a huge sigh before walking in and it's the most set up thing by MTV ever.
That's what she said on Back to the Beach.
Yeah.
They made me walk in like a few times and give that like look.
She didn't do it often, but like that was one of the scenes that they made her redo.
You can tell.
Yeah.
We then hear a sound bite of Kristen saying, I can't believe I'm at Lauren's house.
And before they walk through her front door and through the house, Stephen meets them at the top of the stairs and Kristen says, we didn't know it was a dress up party.
And Alex says, everyone's wearing dresses, but whatever.
How do they not know that?
Like, who didn't tell them?
Who invited them and didn't tell them?
I mean, I feel like they were invited, but not really expected to come.
Yeah.
So it's like, whatever.
So they weren't given all the details.
Yeah.
But I didn't think they looked that bad.
Like Kristen was still in a skirt.
I know Alex is on jeans, but it's like.
Like in a jeans skirt though.
They weren't in like their pajamas.
Yeah.
So Stephen then brings them down to the party and says he found these girls in the bushes.
I found these girls in the bushes.
Okay.
And I don't know if you guys caught this, but at the table, you hear someone saying, wait, are you really dating Cedric?
And Alex is nodding.
And then someone says, wait, I didn't know that.
What?
I didn't touch that.
Yes.
You guys have to rewatch it.
Oh my God.
I was like, I've never caught that before.
So I think Alex and Cedric were dating at this point.
For how long?
Like a week.
I know.
Yeah.
So we see Kristen sort of bypassed Lauren and not say hi.
And someone says that was really rude.
Did you guys hear that in the background?
Oh yeah.
And then we see Lauren and Jen Bunny exchange looks and Stephen goes and sits with Alex and Kristen and they're joking around and talking and we see Alex and say in like a fake sad voice.
They're clicking again.
I don't know why Stephen did this.
It bothered me really bad that he just like was like, we're going to sit over here when he easily could have been like come over here and sit at the table with all of us.
It was so weird.
I think he was trying to make them feel more comfortable and it like, right.
He like isolated them rather than like being like, Hey, Kristen, did you see that Alex did this?
I don't, you know what I mean?
He brought the conversation together somehow.
Yeah.
It was weird.
I think it was really rude of Kristen to not even acknowledge Lauren walking into her house.
Like to say hi.
Yeah.
Anything.
You're at her house.
Yeah.
And it could have been a great scene for them to recognize.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
And I think I was like really hoping for that when I saw that she went to the party and like it was really kind of disappointing.
Yeah.
It was super disappointing.
Yeah.
And then it took Steven going to Kristen as like him still like being on her side in this like Kristen, Lauren, like whatever thing.
That's what it looked like.
Yeah.
Lauren was pissed when he was leaving and he went to like hug her.
That's so weird that he would leave with them.
Yeah.
So Kristen says, God, this is so weird.
And Steven says, are you leaving?
And then they both ended deciding to leave together and Kristen goes over and gives Heidi a hug.
And Steven kisses Lauren on the head and Lauren looks thrilled and Kristen stops before she's leaving as if she's going to say goodbye to Lauren.
But then says, Oh, whatever.
I don't really care before leaving.
And we just do Lauren saying that was kind of mean.
So Morgan S comes over and asks where Steven went and someone says he left with Kristen and Lauren makes a face.
Can I say one thing before we end this party? Kind of looked really lame.
I agree.
Yeah.
I agree with that.
I think it was so chill.
I would have loved to go to a party.
It was chill.
They're like sitting, hanging out, talking.
It was like kind of awkward.
It looks like every other night, like it didn't really seem special aside from the food.
And it was so forced.
I thought there'd be more people there.
Yeah.
It was like a forced group from the show to like come together.
It wasn't like a fun party.
I will say the party, the barbecue looked more fun.
Yes.
That's what I would have expected this to be like, but it wasn't at all.
I think catering, but only like what eight people came or something like that.
I know, right?
I think I just like the vibe, like the chill.
Like I would like a party like that, but like, you know, it probably isn't super fun.
Like, but I like chill vibes like that.
So I think I was like, oh, like it was a nice night and like, yeah, they're out by the pool.
Yeah.
So the next scene is Kristen Jessica and Alex H and Kristen says to Jessica, you're really
amped.
You didn't go last night.
It was so much fun.
And she's being sarcastic and Alex says she was wearing jeans and Christians wearing a
little jean skirt and everyone was wearing dresses and all the guys were dressed nicely.
And Kristen said it was really awkward and didn't help the situation with Lauren at all
because she didn't even talk to her.
So the whole point was worthless.
And then Kristen says, even left with them and they went and got more food after the
catered party and after their subway.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then she said it was the first time that she and Steven hung out in a long time where
it was good and they were just friends.
And then Jessica's phone rings in the distance and she asks if she can go get it, which why
are you asking?
Yeah.
Like, do you need permission from Kristen to answer your phone?
And Kristen just kind of sighs and she's like, why are you expecting a call from someone
like Jason?
And then they all just kind of laugh because probably.
Yeah.
And she is like a little extra excited to get her phone.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Who knows?
Maybe it's Cameron.
Maybe.
So the next scene is Lauren, Heidi and Jen shopping and Heidi says that last night was the most
relaxing night they've had in a while and they all agree.
And Lauren asks who left first and they decipher that it was Kristen, Steven, etc.
And they briefly talk about how they didn't stay long.
And Lauren says she needs new shoes because she's had a rough couple of days and shoes
make her feel happy.
Valid.
Oh yeah, relatable.
A shopping makes me happy.
I'm not like a huge shoe person.
Yeah.
Like what do you guys buy when you feel sad?
Books.
Clothes.
Yeah.
Coffee.
And it's a perfect day to like a pick me up is like starting the morning with iced coffee,
going to Barnes and Noble, picking out some new books and like ending at like polls or
Target.
And then I go home and watch reality TV and that's a perfect day.
That sounds awesome.
It sounds like a good day.
Yeah.
You guys can come join me anytime.
Oh my God.
I will be at home shopping on Amazon.
Nowadays that makes me happy.
Every now and then I have to go out and just feel the vibes.
It's different when now having kids going out by myself or just me and Kyle is like
amazing because you don't have to worry about someone's hungry or if they are to go to the
bathroom or if they have to touch everything.
So it's like when we get to go to the mall by myself, it's like heaven.
Yes.
So it doesn't happen very often, but yeah.
I know.
Yeah.
More power to moms.
Man, you guys are.
I don't know how you guys do it because I would literally be like stop touching that.
I'd be like a monster.
But I mean, yeah.
That's why we have like tablets and things like that.
Yeah.
And lots of snacks, a never ending amount of snacks.
Yeah.
I have to tell you the guys the story.
I had a boss who her daughter was like having a tantrum one time outside of McDonald's.
And so instead of going in and eating at McDonald's like she planned, she walked her in the
car, went into McDonald's ordered a meal for herself, sat at a table directly in front
of the car and ate it in front of her while her daughter was throwing a tantrum in the
car.
How old was the kid?
Like five.
That's bad.
That's really bad.
I just kind of share that with you.
You're talking about kids.
And I'm like, I feel like that would be me as a mom.
I just can't handle it.
I'm locking you with a car.
That's a great lesson to teach your kids.
I know.
And Liz, the mom goes, no.
I know.
I'm like, don't judge.
I would go through the drive through by myself, food and then just go home.
And the lesson would be you didn't get a happy meal, but I did, but I would not lock my kid
in the car.
Okay.
I guess so.
Yeah.
This was like also like the nineties.
So like I was different.
It was acceptable to lock your kid in the car.
Yeah.
I always tell people like when I see kids acting up at a restaurant, I am like shocked because
my mom, no, no, no, no, no.
Like there was no way if I was acting some type of way, all she had to do was look at
me and I knew would you get in trouble when you came home though?
No, but I think the fear of getting in trouble was like worse.
If I did act a certain way, I knew we were leaving.
So like she would not put up with it.
Yeah.
Even if it meant she didn't get to eat.
Right.
Like we were leaving.
So like I knew like it wasn't going to end well for me.
Like why act like that?
Because I'm not going to get like anything out of it.
But yeah, like it's shocking because like my mom would have been like, no, we're leaving
and we would have left.
It's one of those things where people always say like when I have kids, this is how it's
going to be, but you don't know.
And when you do have kids, that's not how it is.
You know, it's just like everybody's the best parent until you're like, oh, I'm going
to be the best parent until they have a child.
So it's just like, I don't judge anyone anymore for something like that.
I've had times where we're at a restaurant and like Charlie is the kid who's acting up
in the restaurant.
That's just her.
And it'll be for no reason at all.
And I'm like, okay, I'm going to pick you up and we go outside and I have to have a discussion
with her of like, yeah, if you don't get it together right now, then this is what's going
to happen.
And nine times out of 10, she's like, okay.
And then we go back in and the rest of the time is fine.
But still like picking up a screaming kid and walking through a restaurant alone is like
the worst.
I feel like everyone's looking at me.
Everyone's like, that woman's child is screaming.
So are you like yelling at her?
Are you like talking to her nicely?
Oh, no, I don't, I wouldn't, I don't yell at her in public.
Like, I mean, you know, I'm human.
It happens.
But I try to keep it as calm as I possibly can.
And I honestly, it's hard.
It's so hard.
I can't imagine that sweet little terriby face.
I know.
Being anything but sweet.
Oh my gosh.
Well, she's like, I'll pick her up from preschool and they're like, she's so good.
She never has any problems.
And then the whole car ride home, she's screaming at me because I'm not like playing the song
she wants, you know, and I'm like, why were you so good for your teachers?
She's saving it for mama.
She is so cute.
I know.
Every time you post her, I'm like, she's hilarious.
Yeah.
She makes my ovaries hurt.
Like some kids, she's making ovaries.
Yeah.
She's one of them.
He's thinking cute.
He makes some cute babies.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Heidi says, when in doubt, shoot it out.
And then she says she can't wait to move to LA.
Jen asks who she thinks they're going to hang out with and Heidi asks if she'll hang out
with Steven.
And Lauren says she thinks he might do his own thing up there, which he totally does
because we never see him.
Yeah.
And Jen then asks if she's going to hang out with Jason and Lauren says, we'll see.
And then Jen says, you know what Jason said to me?
He said he was devastated.
And then Lauren rolls her eyes and Heidi says, he's such a good guy.
It's just unfortunate.
And then Jen says, oh, I wouldn't say the good guy line.
And then immediately says, no, he's a good guy at heart.
And Heidi says, he's just self-destructive.
And so Jen asks Lauren, so there's no chance that you would ever and Lauren
drugs that face she makes.
I know.
Come on, Lauren.
Was she already thinking of getting back together with him?
She had to have been.
Yeah.
I think either that or MTV said, don't close the chapter completely.
Yeah.
With the viewers, you know?
That's true.
I would be inclined to believe that because Lauren was so steadfast on never letting
him come back into her life.
I also wonder, like, did MTV have any push in making Jason like reconcile with Lauren
in the hills?
Like, I know he really liked her, but like it did make for fantastic talent.
You know, written this better.
Yeah.
And it carried all of us like from Laguna Beach, watching it right into the hills.
So, I mean, it's just very good timing.
Yeah.
I don't know.
So the next scene, Jason calls Jessica while she's driving and asks her if she wants to
cruise by real quick.
And she does.
Holstein, I hate it.
It's so manufactured.
It makes me want to like punch people.
Totally.
Yeah.
Like why are they having like they both don't want to be there at all.
So Jessica asks him how he is and he says, good, well, kind of feeling sick.
And then Jason asks her what she's been up to and tells her that he's getting ready to
move to LA.
And then Jessica asks him if he's excited and he says, yep, like the worst conversation.
Jessica asks, how's Lauren?
Like obviously MTV told her to ask that.
And Jason says that they're just trying to work things out after what happened.
And Jessica says, it's amazing that something that little can like, whatever.
First Alex, now Lauren.
I'm just on a roll.
I have you to thank for that.
And then Jason says it was you.
And Jessica says, I didn't kiss you.
And Jason says, yeah, you did.
And Jessica says, no, people saw you grab me and kiss me.
Thank you very much.
I did not kiss you.
You cannot blame that on me.
And then Jason says, this has been crazy.
And Jessica agrees and tells him that he should call Lauren and Jason says, thank you.
Before she says, yeah, and leaves and tells him good luck with life.
It was so awkward.
Yeah, that last bit was so weird.
Yeah, so weird.
It's like, how do we end this?
I know.
And then you should call Lauren like, what?
That was so weird.
Yeah.
I don't actually think we saw that come out, come out of her mouth.
So I feel like that was edited.
Her hair is also a different color.
So this is definitely like a film later.
Like way after the fact.
Yeah.
And they obviously haven't seen each other in a while.
And it's like super awkward.
Right.
Yeah, I hated this scene.
And just him like sitting on the front porch like that, even like the way that it was shot was weird.
I don't know.
I know who sits there like that.
And like whose house was that?
Yeah, Jason's house.
The bird house he was sitting next to and stuff.
It was just weird.
Yeah.
The whole thing was awkward and weird.
The way she said how's Lauren reminded me of her.
I deserved it.
I don't know why.
It was like in that same tone.
Yeah.
How's Lauren?
Yeah.
And I was just like, hmm, that was weird.
So then we see Jason call Lauren and he asks her if he could come by and talk to her.
And Lauren says that that's fine, but he can't come inside.
Her dad won't let him.
Love it.
So then he shows up and then to have awkward introductions before Jason asks how she's
been.
And then Lauren says, good.
And then Jason says he wanted to come over and apologize and say he's sorry.
And Lauren says for kissing another girl in front of me.
And he says, yes, I don't know.
It just sucks because I still like you and stuff, but I know what I did was and Lauren
says dumb.
And Jason says dumb, but I don't know.
I just wanted you to know that I'm really sorry and that I still do like you.
This is like so much for Jason.
Like he is a man of not many words to like for him.
Him trying to talk is him being in second grade.
Totally.
Yeah.
Like, and I get it.
They weren't like in love yet, but right, but close to it.
Yeah.
I thought it was really funny that he was wearing a shirt that said trust all over it.
Cause I was like, it was like a subliminal, like you can trust me.
Look at my shirt.
She was so icy in this.
I know.
I love it.
Like I'm so good.
I actually looked at her and I'm like, are her eyes like a light blue?
I can't even tell.
But she just looked like the icy was in her eyes too.
Yes.
I love every part of it.
It's perfect.
The arm folded like body language.
I loved it.
So Lauren says, is that supposed to make it better?
And Jason says, no, but it's true.
How do you feel about everything?
And Lauren says, I feel like you kissed another girl in front of me and I trusted you.
And if you were going to do it in front of me, I don't even want to know what you did.
Not in front of me.
Like put yourself in my position, honestly.
Don't Lauren.
Oh yeah.
I know.
These are the scenes that make you like love her.
I know.
I love it.
Yeah.
And Jason says, I know.
So Lauren says, how would you feel if I kissed an ex-boyfriend right in front of you?
But I was sorry.
And that like evil little smile that she has.
I know.
That's my favorite.
What I was sorry.
Yeah.
Jason says, I would have been pissed too.
And Lauren says, you don't go to a family function in front of all of my friends and all of my
family and kiss me in front of all of them and then go kiss another girl and have everyone know.
Like that's humiliating for me.
So freaking proud of this girl.
Yes.
For standing up for herself because you kind of get lost into the like, okay, like, I mean,
not me now, but back then you're like, it wasn't that bad.
And like maybe like he really likes her and like whatever.
But like, no, she's right.
You don't go to a function where her entire family was probably there and hit her and say that's your
girlfriend and then go and kiss someone else and everybody knows about it now.
Like that's terrible.
Like the way she put that into perspective is fantastic.
He really does need to know that he did something wrong.
Yeah.
And all the other girls just kind of forgave him.
So yeah.
And it's so amazing that at that age, she was able to say all of this.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
All of her thoughts, but like I would not have the balls to say that at this age.
She just has a really strong morals and convictions.
Yes.
And I honestly think her parents should get credit for that.
Yeah.
She's always had a very strong sense of how she should be treated.
Yes.
Yeah.
Hold on until except Steve.
I know.
Right.
But she was still not happy with Steven.
Yeah.
Right.
You know, she didn't think that he was treating her well.
Yeah.
It wasn't a Jessica situation.
No, not at all.
And then Jason says he totally understands and Lauren says it just sucks.
Like I don't understand.
You ruined everything.
You know that, right?
Ooh.
Got one.
Get him.
And he says, yep.
And Lauren says, I don't know what you want me to say.
And Jason says there's nothing more.
And then he says, all right.
Well, and Lauren says nothing.
She just turns around and goes back inside.
And I was like, that was chef.
Perfect television.
Oh my God.
Was were we not all glued to our seats during that scene?
Oh yeah.
Like she was definitely hoping he would say more and like apologize or like,
you know, be accountable.
But like he just freezes and he doesn't know what to say.
And when he doesn't know what to say or he feels backed up in a corner,
he's just like, yep, you're right.
Yeah.
This is the scene.
Like I was producer.
I'd have been like, Lauren needs her own show.
Yeah.
That was perfect television.
And I don't think they coached her at all.
No, no, not at all.
Yeah.
I think that was all her.
Yeah.
Cause I was thinking about this today.
I was like, what made them give Lauren her own show versus Preston?
Cause they were both moving to LA.
See, I think Preston was offered it first,
but she didn't want to because she wanted to go to LA to be like an actress.
Oh, is that what happened?
And that's when it went to Lauren.
Yeah.
Cause Lauren wasn't that compelling as like a character throughout the
Laguna Beach.
I feel like until the very end of like season two where she really like
I feel like in these episodes, interesting.
Yeah.
But as a producer, if I had been like given the choice between the two of them
and then I saw this scene, I would have picked Lauren.
Oh yeah.
For sure.
Mostly because I mean, looking at it now, it had been like, she's empowering
for girls.
She's like smart.
She's beautiful.
She's going to go be a fashion like design.
Like I would have been like all about her at this point.
If you were to ask me at the beginning of season two, I would have said,
Kristen, she's going to give us better television.
See, I like think about that scene where Kristen's like setting her
boundary with Steven when she was in San Fran.
Of course she's not like Steven didn't do anything quite as bad,
but like Kristen also held her own.
Yeah.
You know, it's very similar.
Yeah.
But Kristen does it in an abrasive way.
And I feel like Lauren, like, and it's not anything, it's just their
personalities.
Right.
But I feel like Lauren has that girl next door, like sweetness about
her.
She's palpable for television.
Like people, it's easy to digest her.
She's more likable.
Yeah.
I do think Kristen has more of the it girl factor.
Yeah.
I still think so.
As much as like I don't like her as much anymore, but like, I think if you
came off the show, Kristen had more of that special Hollywood, Hollywood
star.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah.
It's interesting because like if she went through as bad of a breakup, I
feel like it would have been awesome to see Kristen in a scene like this
because she would have reamed the heck out of her life.
Oh my gosh.
Did you guys have a favorite outfit this episode?
Mine was Lauren's party outfit.
I thought she looks really pretty.
I think she looks really pretty in halter tops like that, the black and
white one that she was wearing.
My favorite outfit was Kristen's party top, like just that like little tank
top.
The orange tank top.
Yeah.
I think that was the most beautiful and highlight, which I freaking love.
Like she just looks so good.
I almost said that outfit, but something about that orange tank top was like
peasley.
And I, I hated that, but I liked her shoes and her skirt, but that orange
tank top, like, it couldn't get top outfit for me.
It was kind of like that Taylor Caribbean outfit.
Not totally.
Yeah.
A little bit.
Yeah.
I said Lauren's end outfit, the white tube top and the statement
necklaces, the rock and republic jeans and the side braids.
Side braids.
So the jeans have the crowns on the butt.
And I think I said those were true religion.
Yeah.
In another episode.
They are not.
I looked it up just to make sure they're called rock and republic jeans.
And they were also designer jeans.
But I think my whole life I thought they were true religion when I would see
them, but they were like $300 jeans.
Oh gosh.
Wait, what were true religions like logo?
It was like a T on the butt.
Sometimes sometimes it was like a saddle.
Okay.
Yes.
I see the saddle.
But yeah, for some reason I thought the true religions were the crowns, but
no rock and republic.
And I didn't even know what they were called back then.
I just knew they were designer jeans.
I guess.
So amendment.
They were not true religion.
Did you guys have a favorite moment on three?
One, two, three.
The party has arrived.
I don't know.
I don't even say mine.
Nope.
I know.
You win Liz.
I love that one.
I know.
Wait, what was yours?
I was going to say that whole scene with Lauren and Jason at the end.
No, my favorite moment that specifically is, but I was sorry.
Oh yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sorry I ruined it.
No, I totally.
We were on different pages, all of us.
I know.
It's funny.
I love that the party has arrived.
I need to get the sound bite of that.
Yes.
And just like play it at the end of this episode for everyone.
He's so funny.
Oh my God.
And you need to be the sound at the very beginning, Liz.
Okay.
Just saying that.
The party has arrived.
I can do that.
So we're all laughing right now and I'm thinking it was so funny because I could like hear
our theme song start to play.
We're always laughing at the end of the episode.
Yeah.
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