WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.520 Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Paul Heyman. 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:05.820 And as your wise man, I'm here to bestow upon 00:00:05.820 --> 00:00:09.460 you the wisdom that you're listening to Punk's 00:00:09.460 --> 00:00:33.719 Talk Wrestling. Welcome to... In this superstar 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:39.159 showcase episode, we have zero fear as we dive 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:47.340 into the career of the brand new WWE Intercontinental 00:00:47.340 --> 00:00:55.500 Champion, PENTA! I am R .W. Hellborn, the P .A. 00:00:55.619 --> 00:01:00.840 Rock Prince, hailing quote unquote from Philly! 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:06.719 and I am one half of the crowd which is one half 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:14.239 of your punch talk wrestling inter -universal 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:23.400 tag team podcast champion hosts of the world 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:35.379 now then and forever by my side miles away in 00:01:35.379 --> 00:01:39.900 London, England. He is my Tag Team Podcast partner. 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:42.939 He's the other half of the crowd, which is the 00:01:42.939 --> 00:01:46.340 other half of your Pongstalk Wrestling inter 00:01:46.340 --> 00:01:51.879 -universal Tag Team Podcast champion hosts of 00:01:51.879 --> 00:02:01.420 the world. Mr. Did You Know? Sir King of Reels, 00:02:01.739 --> 00:02:27.879 the proper prick. CJ NEWMANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN 00:02:30.099 --> 00:02:32.360 Our second superstar showcase if you want to 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:34.460 check out last one, which was Dominic Mysterio 00:02:34.460 --> 00:02:36.740 Which is like what three weeks ago for three 00:02:36.740 --> 00:02:40.439 boys? Yeah, it would have been three Once this 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:42.759 comes out when this comes out for four weeks. 00:02:42.819 --> 00:02:46.340 Yeah, so It's our second second ever edition 00:02:46.340 --> 00:02:50.740 of this This is episode 91 and that was episode 00:02:51.210 --> 00:02:57.050 87 well there you go so for um yeah, so and I 00:02:57.050 --> 00:03:00.789 think basically we kind of decided yesterday 00:03:00.789 --> 00:03:06.949 that you would basically our Next superstar showcase 00:03:06.949 --> 00:03:09.409 would have an attachment to the previous superstar 00:03:09.409 --> 00:03:12.699 showcase, so Uh as of recording a couple of days 00:03:12.699 --> 00:03:16.560 ago, uh penta Defeated dominic mysterio on the 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:18.180 on raw for the intercontinental championship 00:03:18.180 --> 00:03:22.400 after being cursed by downhouse. So, um, so, 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:26.680 uh Here we are before we yeah We didn't we didn't 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:28.800 mention it on last week's episode because we 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:31.020 did kind of brush past a lot of some of it some 00:03:31.020 --> 00:03:35.219 of it on raw, uh, but when when uh, the interaction 00:03:35.219 --> 00:03:39.539 between judgment day and uh, uh Dan and dan housing 00:03:39.539 --> 00:03:43.110 at first And he and he's just like, he looks 00:03:43.110 --> 00:03:46.129 at the icy title is like, oh, I like that. Can 00:03:46.129 --> 00:03:49.030 I have this? And Dom is like, that's the closest 00:03:49.030 --> 00:03:51.810 you're ever going to get to this. And you barely 00:03:51.810 --> 00:03:54.770 hear him like whisper wise. He's like real up 00:03:54.770 --> 00:03:58.669 close. It's like, that's pretty close. And I 00:03:58.669 --> 00:04:00.509 didn't say until someone else mentioned that 00:04:00.509 --> 00:04:01.969 I had to go back and watch again. He's like, 00:04:02.349 --> 00:04:04.169 he's like, oh, it's like, you know, that's pretty 00:04:04.169 --> 00:04:06.569 fucking it's really fucking funny. He's fucking 00:04:06.569 --> 00:04:09.449 brilliant. But hey, maybe maybe maybe next time 00:04:09.449 --> 00:04:10.819 we'll have it maybe. Next time, we'll have a 00:04:10.819 --> 00:04:12.840 Dan House and Superstar Showcase. But this week, 00:04:13.460 --> 00:04:15.199 it's the Penta. In fact, that's coming quick. 00:04:15.460 --> 00:04:19.420 It's the Penta Showcase. Before we get into anything, 00:04:19.819 --> 00:04:23.360 well, Penta is 41 years old. He's from Ekatepec. 00:04:23.379 --> 00:04:27.339 Nah, I'm going to fuck this up. Ekatepec? Ekatepec? 00:04:28.579 --> 00:04:31.000 Yeah, I think that's pretty close. Ekatepec. 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:35.420 Ekatepec. A fun word to say. Mexico. Or Akatapec. 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:37.579 Akatapec. I've never actually heard where he's 00:04:37.579 --> 00:04:38.959 announced from. I'm going to have to listen out 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:41.920 for that next time. In Mexico, state of Mexico, 00:04:42.259 --> 00:04:47.720 Mexico. He's 41 years old. How about you give 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:53.740 us his big list of wrestling names? Yes, yes. 00:04:55.069 --> 00:04:58.810 In the ring, Pentagon Junior, well, Pentagon 00:04:58.810 --> 00:05:00.689 Junior as it's listed on his Wikipedia page, 00:05:01.209 --> 00:05:04.709 but Penta in WWE has gone by Dark Dragon, Lucha 00:05:04.709 --> 00:05:08.110 Brother, Penta, Penta el Olm, Penta el Cero Miedo, 00:05:08.550 --> 00:05:12.069 Penta el Zero, Penta el Zero M, Penta el Zero 00:05:12.069 --> 00:05:15.870 Miedo, Penta Oscuro, Penta God Dark, Penta el 00:05:15.870 --> 00:05:19.189 Olm, and Penta God Junior. Yeah, I don't know 00:05:19.189 --> 00:05:22.129 if it's Olm or Zero M. I think it's Penta el 00:05:22.129 --> 00:05:25.970 Zero M. It might be L0M. It probably is, because 00:05:25.970 --> 00:05:28.490 that definitely looks like a zero and not an 00:05:28.490 --> 00:05:33.410 O. Yeah. But hey, what do we know? Nothing. So... 00:05:33.410 --> 00:05:35.050 We know some things. We know a lot of things, 00:05:35.329 --> 00:05:38.029 but not how to properly pronounce. Yeah. Oh, 00:05:38.029 --> 00:05:42.269 okay. So he's built from that place. He's also 00:05:42.269 --> 00:05:46.569 built from Mexico City, Mexico, and... Jesus. 00:05:47.370 --> 00:05:52.569 Zalapa. Zalapa... Lapa, Veracruz. There we go. 00:05:52.649 --> 00:05:54.269 That was actually a lot easier to pronounce than 00:05:54.269 --> 00:05:57.810 I thought. Sounds like he's moved around a lot, 00:05:57.870 --> 00:06:00.389 you know? Yeah. He's got to keep on the move. 00:06:02.089 --> 00:06:05.829 He's a mysterious guy. And he's trained by Grand 00:06:05.829 --> 00:06:09.589 Apache and Skade. Never heard of Skade, but I've 00:06:09.589 --> 00:06:13.170 heard of Grand Apache. Yes. He's used to be an 00:06:13.170 --> 00:06:18.829 old school AAA wrestler. What's great about Penta... 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:22.180 They have a lot of things, but what's great about 00:06:22.180 --> 00:06:26.240 Penta is the fact that we know absolutely nothing 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.720 about this guy. In the sense of we know his wrestling 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.079 career, but unlike Rey Mysterio, obviously it's 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:33.800 a very different ball game, Rey Mysterio is like 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.600 the most famous Luchador in the world, but we 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:39.279 know Rey Mysterio's real name, we know a lot 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:42.079 about his family life, everything. We know nothing 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.899 about Penta. There is nothing at all about him. 00:06:44.899 --> 00:06:47.529 Other than his brother is Rey Fenix. Other than 00:06:47.529 --> 00:06:49.930 his brother was Rey Fenix. Yeah. But we also 00:06:49.930 --> 00:06:51.670 don't know anything about him either. No, we 00:06:51.670 --> 00:06:53.550 don't know his name. We just know that he has 00:06:53.550 --> 00:06:58.129 a few kids and he started training wrestling 00:06:58.129 --> 00:07:03.310 in 2007 and now he's in the WWE. But a long road 00:07:03.310 --> 00:07:07.519 to get there. Yeah. he uh he's wrestled geez 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:11.680 he's wrestled in AAA he's wrestled in AEW uh 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.839 CMLL Lucha Underground Impact All Elite Ring 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:23.500 of Honor MLW GCW uh fucking uh GPW like he has 00:07:23.500 --> 00:07:26.300 been in uh he's been he's been all over the fucking 00:07:26.300 --> 00:07:31.600 world um yes so one thing that I thought was 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:34.540 interesting about his in his Wikipedia page I 00:07:34.540 --> 00:07:38.060 feel like this has to be an error it says he 00:07:38.060 --> 00:07:40.139 would win his first ever championship on July 00:07:40.139 --> 00:07:48.490 26 2009 when he defeated Messala To win the WCW 00:07:48.490 --> 00:07:51.230 internet intercontinental championship, but obviously 00:07:51.230 --> 00:07:53.250 if you go to the little credit there It says 00:07:53.250 --> 00:07:55.649 not related to the more famous world championship 00:07:55.649 --> 00:07:58.550 wrestling So I'm intrigued to know what wrestling 00:07:58.550 --> 00:08:01.129 company that is and how they got away with using 00:08:01.129 --> 00:08:08.610 the acronym of WCW But yeah, that's huh an interesting 00:08:08.610 --> 00:08:11.430 one, but obviously the first major company he 00:08:11.430 --> 00:08:21.329 worked for would be AAA Back in 2010 Yes, yeah, 00:08:21.329 --> 00:08:24.870 yeah he had and that that was I think that was 00:08:24.870 --> 00:08:29.269 under under Pentagon dark I Think or maybe or 00:08:29.269 --> 00:08:31.670 or maybe he was Pentagon dark at some point there. 00:08:31.750 --> 00:08:36.710 I vaguely remember I saw oh No, no, I'm no, I'm 00:08:36.710 --> 00:08:39.049 sorry. I'm thinking of I'm thinking of Lucha 00:08:39.049 --> 00:08:42.620 underground Lucha underground was Yeah, was where 00:08:42.620 --> 00:08:47.379 he so he started he as dark he started as dark 00:08:47.379 --> 00:08:50.159 dragon this way he joined triple -aged mid -level 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:55.700 rudo okay, so he was there as dark dragon and 00:08:55.700 --> 00:08:59.779 given it and then he so Yeah, he was given the 00:08:59.779 --> 00:09:02.320 name dark dragon persona his brother then known 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:06.299 as Mascara oriental was given a new name and 00:09:06.299 --> 00:09:10.000 mask and then he became known as Phoenix So, 00:09:10.980 --> 00:09:20.299 yeah, just Phoenix. And then in 2012, the Dark 00:09:20.299 --> 00:09:22.580 Dragon persona was abandoned and then he was 00:09:22.580 --> 00:09:24.919 reintroduced as Pentagon Jr. and I guess from 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.399 there, the rest is history. But I do know that 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:34.440 over the years, Pentagon, similar to Ultimo, 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.279 not Ultimo Dragon, oh my god, why is his name 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:40.480 escaping me? Uh, Jushin Thunder Liger. Uh, Jushin 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:43.000 Thunder Liger has a lot of different, like, almost 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.940 like alter egos, because Jushin Thunder Liger... 00:09:45.940 --> 00:09:48.200 If you go on YouTube, you'll find it, but there's 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:50.059 these matches where he's always been classically 00:09:50.059 --> 00:09:52.840 a face over his career, but there's been these 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:55.580 matches where he, like, tears his mask off and 00:09:55.580 --> 00:09:57.460 underneath his whole body is, like, painted, 00:09:57.860 --> 00:10:01.200 and he becomes, like, this... this demonic version 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:06.210 of... of Jushin Thunder Liger. And so sort of 00:10:06.210 --> 00:10:09.029 like when Psycho Clown rips his face. Yeah, yeah. 00:10:09.070 --> 00:10:12.730 Kind of similar situation. Yeah. And I know that 00:10:12.730 --> 00:10:15.210 with it, maybe not such an extreme to an extreme 00:10:15.210 --> 00:10:18.090 effect, but I know that with like Penta, we have 00:10:18.090 --> 00:10:22.330 that Penta zero is like a Penta Dark are more 00:10:22.330 --> 00:10:26.330 like evil versions of Penta. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 00:10:26.330 --> 00:10:30.480 yeah. It's just that's awesome. Yeah, what's 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:33.519 weird is there there is no pentagon if there's 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.019 pentagon jr. But whereas But who was pentagon 00:10:37.019 --> 00:10:39.299 if there's a pentagon jr. Or was it also him 00:10:39.299 --> 00:10:44.799 as a as a different? Yeah, I don't I don't know 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:50.179 it doesn't seem it doesn't seem like Whereas, 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:53.620 like, Rey Mysterio is Rey Mysterio Jr. Technically, 00:10:53.779 --> 00:10:55.419 he went by Rey Mysterio Jr. because there wasn't 00:10:55.419 --> 00:10:57.559 older Rey Mysterio. His uncle... His uncle was 00:10:57.559 --> 00:11:01.379 Rey Mysterio, yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. That's 00:11:01.379 --> 00:11:04.299 a really good question, to be honest. And it's 00:11:04.299 --> 00:11:07.039 not specified about who his dad was or anything 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:10.320 like that. Yeah, a whole other mystery. Yeah. 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:14.620 So again, it kind of goes true with... Lucha 00:11:14.620 --> 00:11:16.659 tradition and the fact that you don't know anything 00:11:16.659 --> 00:11:19.240 about this guy under the mask, you just know 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:23.159 he's a guy that's wild. Yeah, which is so fucking 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:26.500 difficult to do in 2026. Yeah, because you know 00:11:26.500 --> 00:11:28.960 that you know, there's got to be like, there 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.919 has to be a contract with his name on it. Or 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:35.500 does he just sign his name? Like, is he is he 00:11:35.500 --> 00:11:38.759 legally allowed to sign his name? Pentagon Jr. 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:42.070 on you know, like doesn't Does he have a driver's 00:11:42.070 --> 00:11:44.529 license that just has him in a mask? I know it's 00:11:44.529 --> 00:11:46.730 great as well. It's like this is professional 00:11:46.730 --> 00:11:49.210 wrestling, especially with masked wrestlers like 00:11:49.210 --> 00:11:52.490 this, is the closest thing we'll ever come to 00:11:52.490 --> 00:11:56.129 in the real world to superheroes. Yeah. Yeah, 00:11:56.230 --> 00:11:59.269 legitimately. It is it is the last pure like. 00:12:00.149 --> 00:12:04.669 You have a secret identity and no one knows it, 00:12:04.690 --> 00:12:06.870 which which I understand was a lot. There was 00:12:06.870 --> 00:12:10.559 there was some controversy, controversy. Uh on 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:12.779 uh monday night that we didn't talk about involving 00:12:12.779 --> 00:12:16.779 gunter ripping. Uh, oh right. Yeah off of uh 00:12:16.779 --> 00:12:21.659 off of um What's his name? Oh, uh dragon lee 00:12:21.659 --> 00:12:24.860 dragon lee. Yeah And because because therefore 00:12:24.860 --> 00:12:27.740 a brief moment like people were screenshotting 00:12:27.740 --> 00:12:30.460 like the the frame and like for a brief moment 00:12:30.460 --> 00:12:33.659 You could actually see his face. Yeah On camera. 00:12:33.659 --> 00:12:36.080 I mean he had part of his face was still painted 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:39.080 black. So it wasn't like completely obvious. 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:41.820 But but yeah, that that I could see that I actually 00:12:41.820 --> 00:12:43.940 agree with. I know this is a sidebar, but like 00:12:43.940 --> 00:12:47.980 that's not it. It's clearly part of the storyline. 00:12:48.220 --> 00:12:50.639 It's a huge disrespect. That's to you know, that 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:53.200 that's the point that Gunther is disrespecting 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:54.759 him. And I know that's going to be play into 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.840 the storyline. Yeah. But also people don't have 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:00.059 to be a dick about it and don't have to like. 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:03.820 If you're posting, if you're posting screenshots 00:13:03.820 --> 00:13:07.019 of his face for, you know, for clicks and likes, 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:09.879 that's shitty. Yeah, pretty much. That's shitty. 00:13:10.139 --> 00:13:12.840 Don't, you know, don't do that. That's just not 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:17.279 cool. So anyway, moving on. Yeah, so he was he 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:20.240 was in Lucha. He was in AAA for between 2020 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:23.740 and 2017. In between all of that, obviously, 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:26.360 AAA having quite a big working relationship with 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:29.409 the independents. He spent a lot of time with 00:13:29.409 --> 00:13:33.990 Lucha Underground, pro wrestling guerrilla, MLW. 00:13:35.029 --> 00:13:41.149 So he briefly left AAA in, well, at the end of 00:13:41.149 --> 00:13:48.950 2017, and then quickly returned to AAA in, where 00:13:48.950 --> 00:13:54.870 was it, in 2018, in June of 2018. So he spent 00:13:54.870 --> 00:13:58.710 a little bit more time there, but let's not skate 00:13:58.710 --> 00:14:02.950 over his time in mainly Lucha Underground, because 00:14:02.950 --> 00:14:07.190 Lucha Underground is not a promotion that I watched 00:14:07.190 --> 00:14:10.190 episodically, I'd say, but I definitely watched 00:14:10.190 --> 00:14:14.610 a lot of Lucha Underground. Before we get into 00:14:14.610 --> 00:14:17.850 that, let's also not skip over real quick, or 00:14:17.850 --> 00:14:21.559 maybe we're going to get to it. Brief appearance 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:26.100 in impact wrestling in 20 2018 to 2019 Yeah, 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:28.779 yeah, yeah, yeah during during the time and if 00:14:28.779 --> 00:14:31.159 you go and you can go back to our history of 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:35.740 the TNA championship, which also Talks about 00:14:35.740 --> 00:14:39.740 the it's time at impact wrestling So yeah, he's 00:14:39.740 --> 00:14:45.740 got he's got history Everywhere yeah everywhere 00:14:45.740 --> 00:14:48.779 one of the few people I think I think one of 00:14:48.779 --> 00:14:50.879 the few people to have. Well, he has. Well, he 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.399 does. With the weird WCW that's not the real 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:57.700 WCW, he's got pretty much everything other than 00:14:57.700 --> 00:14:59.879 other than that. Like he's been every every other 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:02.700 major one. Yeah, exactly. And it's and again, 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:05.600 in a proper, almost like in true like Luchador 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.139 fashion, the fact that he. has wrestled all over 00:15:09.139 --> 00:15:11.700 the world in many different promotions. I mean, 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.460 it's probably not even said on here, but you 00:15:14.460 --> 00:15:17.440 know, the fact that he's I saw him in the UK 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.759 for like RPW and things like that. Yeah. And 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:23.340 I'll be honest, like he was he was one of the 00:15:23.340 --> 00:15:27.240 reasons my first my my first the first time I 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:29.870 actually saw him was when him and his brother 00:15:29.870 --> 00:15:32.149 were wrestling as the Lucha Brothers in AEW. 00:15:32.850 --> 00:15:36.210 When I was when I was trying to, I was really 00:15:36.210 --> 00:15:39.289 trying hard to watch AEW. Like, I'm trying to 00:15:39.289 --> 00:15:41.370 like it. I'm trying to watch it just so I can 00:15:41.370 --> 00:15:46.090 know what's going on. Yeah, I would definitely 00:15:46.090 --> 00:15:49.529 go back to if you want to watch any really fucking 00:15:49.529 --> 00:15:53.289 great Lucha Penta matches, go and watch some 00:15:53.289 --> 00:15:56.230 stuff in Lucha Underground. Obviously, Lucha 00:15:56.230 --> 00:15:57.750 Underground was a weird one. They did. There 00:15:57.750 --> 00:16:00.309 was more they do it's weird they did it in seasons 00:16:00.309 --> 00:16:02.950 so they would have like instead of having like 00:16:02.950 --> 00:16:05.190 uh you know like every single week they would 00:16:05.190 --> 00:16:07.970 do it in seasons and also it would be shot in 00:16:07.970 --> 00:16:11.929 a more of a i don't know like a like a tv show 00:16:11.929 --> 00:16:15.789 kind of way yeah yeah it's yeah it's exactly 00:16:15.789 --> 00:16:21.320 it's shot more like uh Yeah, one of those types 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:24.919 of... Much more emphasis on them being characters 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:30.779 than they are in the real world. Yeah. They were 00:16:30.779 --> 00:16:34.600 clearly telling a very overarching story. Exactly, 00:16:34.860 --> 00:16:37.769 yeah. But yeah, he had a great match there with 00:16:37.769 --> 00:16:40.210 very late in Vampiro's career, if you remember 00:16:40.210 --> 00:16:42.370 Vampiro, but he had a match with Vampiro. Vampiro 00:16:42.370 --> 00:16:44.389 was a commentator in Luchi Underground. He had 00:16:44.389 --> 00:16:47.950 a match with Vampiro, which was a Ciero Miedo 00:16:47.950 --> 00:16:51.350 match, which is basically, it got violent. There's 00:16:51.350 --> 00:16:53.250 a lot of blood, but I warn you, but it's a great 00:16:53.250 --> 00:16:56.250 match. But you also have matches there against 00:16:56.250 --> 00:16:59.970 Prince Puma, which is obviously Ricochet. Yeah, 00:17:00.009 --> 00:17:01.929 there's a lot of really good matches to be watched. 00:17:02.090 --> 00:17:03.990 in his time in Lucha Underground. I don't even 00:17:03.990 --> 00:17:07.170 know where you'd watch that now, but yeah. One 00:17:07.170 --> 00:17:09.970 of the infamous, one of probably the most, one 00:17:09.970 --> 00:17:15.230 of, at least most infamous that I know of, intergender 00:17:15.230 --> 00:17:19.109 matches with Chelsea Green happened in Lucha 00:17:19.109 --> 00:17:21.849 Underground too. That's true. Yeah, you're right. 00:17:22.069 --> 00:17:24.690 Yeah, yeah, you're very right. Yeah, very true. 00:17:26.150 --> 00:17:29.890 So after going back to Impact, sorry, after going 00:17:29.890 --> 00:17:32.269 back to AAA very, very briefly and obviously 00:17:32.269 --> 00:17:34.769 having a little bit of time in TNA or Impact 00:17:34.769 --> 00:17:39.890 Wrestling at the time, he ended up at AEW very 00:17:39.890 --> 00:17:44.750 early in the start of AEW's time in 2019. And 00:17:44.750 --> 00:17:47.470 obviously the whole time he was in AAA, sorry, 00:17:47.690 --> 00:17:51.950 the whole time he was in AEW, he wrestled in 00:17:51.950 --> 00:17:57.839 a tag team with his brother. Phoenix or Rey Phoenix, 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:03.339 which is Kind of nuts that he was there for what? 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:08.720 Five five years and never never even had a singles 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:13.720 Never had a singles like no, he never had a time 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:15.640 to be a single star. He was always an attack 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:19.279 team He was in the tag team or in the Death Triangle. 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:22.660 Yeah, he was the trio's tag champs and he was 00:18:22.660 --> 00:18:24.579 obviously tag champs with the Lucha Bros. Yeah, 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:30.700 with obviously with Neville or Pac in AW. But 00:18:30.700 --> 00:18:35.119 yeah, so they wrestled in AW between 2019 and 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:39.619 really 2023. And then kind of a little bit in 00:18:39.619 --> 00:18:42.819 2024. And once again, it's a classic case of 00:18:42.819 --> 00:18:47.329 they just kind of disappeared. And from May 2024 00:18:47.329 --> 00:18:52.869 all the way up until for like about a year, they 00:18:52.869 --> 00:18:55.630 just sat there and their contracts just slowly 00:18:55.630 --> 00:19:00.809 ran out. Which is, again, wild. I don't know 00:19:00.809 --> 00:19:04.809 how you have someone like Pentagon Jr. on your 00:19:04.809 --> 00:19:08.250 roster and you just let them sit there. But that's 00:19:08.250 --> 00:19:14.210 whatever. His last match there was in July of 00:19:16.309 --> 00:19:22.069 2024 and He debuted on the Netflix premiere on 00:19:22.069 --> 00:19:25.849 the 6th of January 2025 Which I believe was in 00:19:25.849 --> 00:19:29.289 a match against Chad Gable. So it was in a match 00:19:29.289 --> 00:19:32.329 against Chad Gable Yes, which which funny enough 00:19:32.329 --> 00:19:36.930 set the set the gears in motion for Chad Gables 00:19:36.930 --> 00:19:41.720 His feud against the luchadors and yeah turning 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:46.819 into El Grande Americano. Which is crazy to think 00:19:46.819 --> 00:19:50.460 that that storyline, the whole El Grande Americano 00:19:50.460 --> 00:19:52.759 storyline has now been running for like over 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.940 a year. And most of the time without Chad Gable. 00:19:57.740 --> 00:20:00.579 Yeah, which is nuts, right? Until the Royal Rumble. 00:20:02.140 --> 00:20:05.700 I mean, El Grande America Original. We don't 00:20:05.700 --> 00:20:09.059 know who's under those masks. No. We can't be 00:20:09.059 --> 00:20:12.599 for sure. But yeah, no, we I mean, yeah, we know. 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:16.420 The point is what look at how well they pivoted 00:20:16.420 --> 00:20:19.400 like with that. Yeah. And everyone, everyone 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:23.799 just bought into it hook line and sinker. And 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:27.039 I mean, I would sit here and tell you about all 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:30.259 of the championships that the Penta has won, 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.660 but the list is fucking humongous. I mean, I 00:20:33.660 --> 00:20:36.410 could really quickly if you want me to. Let's 00:20:36.410 --> 00:20:39.569 go. You know what? How about this? How about 00:20:39.569 --> 00:20:43.529 this? We'll go back and forth. We're both looking 00:20:43.529 --> 00:20:45.930 at Wikipedia, right? Yeah, right. Let's go back 00:20:45.930 --> 00:20:48.990 and forth by wrestling company. Otherwise, yeah, 00:20:49.130 --> 00:20:52.569 let's do that. Okay. All right. All of the wrestling. 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:57.119 Right. Yeah, not in continuity order. Not in 00:20:57.119 --> 00:20:59.660 continuity order, but in all of the wrestling, 00:20:59.859 --> 00:21:02.359 we've got the AEW Tag Team Championships, one 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.720 time with Ray Phoenix and the AEW World Tag Team 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:06.940 Championships, one time with Pac and Ray Phoenix 00:21:06.940 --> 00:21:10.960 and the AEW World Tag Team. Oh, that's not not 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:12.880 doing not champion. That's not a championship. 00:21:13.140 --> 00:21:18.079 Go on to AEW. Okay AAW wrestling the AAW heavyweight 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:20.900 championship one time that's for three the AAW 00:21:20.900 --> 00:21:24.180 heritage championship Once and the AAW tag team 00:21:24.180 --> 00:21:27.480 championships with Ray Phoenix once he's on the 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:29.759 fifth triple crown I don't know if the oh, that's 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:31.579 a triple crown championship. That means he's 00:21:31.579 --> 00:21:34.680 won three titles. Yeah, that's that so that is 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:39.940 now we're at six There you go. We got the the 00:21:39.940 --> 00:21:44.480 crash lucha libre, which is I have no idea what 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:46.559 the fuck that is. Never heard of that until now. 00:21:47.099 --> 00:21:49.720 The Crash Cruiserweight Championship one time 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:53.000 and the Crash Tag Team Championship one time 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:56.220 with The King, which is by the way, Ray Phoenix. 00:21:57.740 --> 00:22:01.119 It's his brother Ray Phoenix, which by the way, 00:22:02.380 --> 00:22:06.779 my buddy, the other Chris, Chris Moore, husband 00:22:06.779 --> 00:22:10.880 of Ella from the Rumors and owner of Ruckus Rose 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:12.680 Tattoo, he's the one that tattooed my knuckles. 00:22:13.210 --> 00:22:17.410 before the girls tattooed my hands. He also tattooed 00:22:17.410 --> 00:22:21.089 Rey Fenix. Oh, wow. OK. Yeah. He was he was an 00:22:21.089 --> 00:22:24.150 indie he was an indie wrestler in Ohio as well. 00:22:24.170 --> 00:22:27.150 And he's he's got some very, very cool history. 00:22:27.390 --> 00:22:29.670 He told me he told me a bunch of pretty awesome 00:22:29.670 --> 00:22:32.769 stories. Yeah. So his one of his he was like, 00:22:32.769 --> 00:22:36.509 oh, fuck, man, one of my tattoos is on WrestleMania. 00:22:37.589 --> 00:22:39.730 So, yeah, just shout out. Shout out to the other 00:22:39.730 --> 00:22:46.880 Chris. in my life. Another Chris in your life. 00:22:47.259 --> 00:22:50.299 I thought I was the only one, man. Jeez. Sorry, 00:22:50.380 --> 00:22:53.960 there's actually quite a few Chris. There's way 00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:57.579 too many of us. But you are my tag team podcast 00:22:57.579 --> 00:22:59.680 partner. You are the other half of the crown. 00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:05.769 No one can... You are my... You are... Am if 00:23:05.769 --> 00:23:09.650 you if you are if you are Pentagon jr. I am great 00:23:09.650 --> 00:23:12.230 phoenix We are we are forever tag team partners 00:23:12.230 --> 00:23:16.650 everywhere or if I'm or if I'm Pentagon you're 00:23:16.650 --> 00:23:18.809 great phoenix one of the other I'm fine with 00:23:18.809 --> 00:23:21.670 either. Yeah, we can be we can be either one 00:23:21.670 --> 00:23:25.069 You'll never know cuz we'd be under masks. Yes 00:23:25.069 --> 00:23:30.509 Just swap them we literally we should wear masks 00:23:30.509 --> 00:23:33.089 we should wear masks that's that would be a great 00:23:33.089 --> 00:23:35.930 tag team gimmick is we're distinctly different 00:23:35.930 --> 00:23:38.470 people with you know with all my tattoos and 00:23:38.470 --> 00:23:41.269 everything but we'd wear masks and we would just 00:23:41.269 --> 00:23:43.190 switch we would just switch them and pretend 00:23:43.190 --> 00:23:45.589 to be each other's characters why has that never 00:23:45.589 --> 00:23:47.930 happened oh my god that's such a good fucking 00:23:47.930 --> 00:23:53.289 story um anyway next company your your house 00:23:53.289 --> 00:23:55.920 of glory That's right, House of Glory, the Hog 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:59.819 Tag Team Championship. That brings us to nine. 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.519 We've got the Impact Wrestling, Impact World 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:06.299 Champion once, and Impact World Tag Team Champion 00:24:06.299 --> 00:24:11.430 with Ray Fenix. Yep, that brings us to 11. Lucha 00:24:11.430 --> 00:24:15.470 Libre, triple A worldwide. There's a triple A 00:24:15.470 --> 00:24:17.650 Latin American championship once, the triple 00:24:17.650 --> 00:24:20.430 A world mixed tag team champions with Sexy Star 00:24:20.430 --> 00:24:23.349 once, triple A world tag team championships three 00:24:23.349 --> 00:24:26.849 times with Joel Leder once and Phoenix twice. 00:24:29.569 --> 00:24:31.650 Lucha Fighter, I don't think, that's just an 00:24:31.650 --> 00:24:37.869 award. The rate of Reyes, though, is a real thing. 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:43.900 Oh, no, that's a that's it's a tournament. Yeah. 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:47.180 And we got Lucha underground. We got Lucha underground. 00:24:47.460 --> 00:24:49.720 The gift of the gods championship one time and 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:53.579 Lucha underground championship two times. 16 00:24:53.579 --> 00:24:56.920 16 major league wrestling. We've got the major 00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:58.960 league wrestling world tag team championships 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:03.880 one time with Ray Fenix. We got the the Pueros 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:07.420 del Mal light heavyweight championship two times. 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:12.740 Mm hmm. We've got the PCW Ultra Heavyweight Championship 00:25:12.740 --> 00:25:15.279 two times. We've got the Pro Wrestling Guerrilla 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:20.380 PWG World Tag Team Championships one time with 00:25:20.380 --> 00:25:27.079 Ray Pheonix. That is 20. Yeah, I think so. We've 00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:29.259 got the Ring of Honor World Tag Team Championships 00:25:29.259 --> 00:25:36.079 once with Ray Pheonix. We've got the Robles Heavyweight 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:39.160 Championship. Why is that making me laugh? I 00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:41.819 don't know why. The Robles Heavyweight Championship. 00:25:42.700 --> 00:25:46.579 Because it makes you think of marbles. It makes 00:25:46.579 --> 00:25:49.220 me think of marbles. It's just the weird name 00:25:49.220 --> 00:25:54.819 for a wrestling promotion. The Robles Heavyweight 00:25:54.819 --> 00:26:00.640 Championship one time. Tickle your Robles. Hashtag 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:05.440 tickle your Robles. Where are we? Wait, that 00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:08.880 was the Robles one? Yeah, I think that's 20. 00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.579 I think that's 22. That was 22. So the Wrestling 00:26:12.579 --> 00:26:15.519 Alliance Revolution War Tag Team Championships 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:20.240 with Rhea Phoenix. We got the Wrestling Superstar 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:24.720 World Submission Lucha Championship. That's probably 00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:30.539 the most. confusing and longest title. Why wrestling 00:26:30.539 --> 00:26:34.599 superstar as opposed to the not superstar world? 00:26:34.779 --> 00:26:39.319 Yeah. Anyway, the extreme Mexican wrestling XMW 00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:42.460 tag team championship one time with Phoenix. 00:26:43.099 --> 00:26:46.599 We've got the Mexican independent circuit. So 00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:50.140 we've got the WCW international intercontinental 00:26:50.140 --> 00:26:52.000 championship one time, which I really want to 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:53.980 look into because that confuses me. We've got 00:26:53.980 --> 00:26:55.799 it. We've got to look into this. I think this 00:26:55.759 --> 00:27:04.000 I need to know more about this. And then as of 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:08.359 now, the WWE Intercontinental Championship, that 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:14.599 brings us to 26 different championships that 00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.660 he has held in his career. And that's just what's 00:27:18.660 --> 00:27:21.740 on the Wikipedia page. There may be more that 00:27:21.740 --> 00:27:25.220 haven't even made it. There's some crazy shit 00:27:25.220 --> 00:27:28.039 out there that we might not even know. So if 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:31.279 you know of any more, if you're listening, and 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:34.180 you know more about Penta than we do, tell us 00:27:34.180 --> 00:27:36.359 you know more than we do and tell us what we 00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:39.599 don't know so that we can know more. And we're 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.700 all learning. Yeah. Yeah. We're learning creatures. 00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:51.299 Anyway. That's I think that's about all we got 00:27:51.299 --> 00:27:56.900 for for him. So. 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But 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:37.640 I mean, on his merch. I mean, yeah, sure. I'd 00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:39.700 never really checked. I will next time. No, I 00:30:39.700 --> 00:30:46.380 hope he's got... Off the rails. Off the rails. 00:30:46.500 --> 00:30:48.519 So off the rails. Off the rails. We're on a different 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:49.259 track completely.