The podcast you're about to listen to is for
adults only. Anyone under 18, please turn on
Kidz Bop right now. Any opinions or advice that
we give on this show should not be taken too
seriously as we are not professionals at all.
With that being said, make yourself a drink and
join us on our journey as a married couple and
join the lifestyle in beautiful Southern California.
And it's time. Oh, you didn't say and we're back.
And we're back. For another. Super loud. Sweet
side of life podcast all the way from Southern
California. That's right, everybody. So cow.
OK, speed it up here, friend. We literally just
talked about this. How's everybody feeling out
there tonight? I'm feeling pretty good. Well,
it might not be tonight for them. That's true.
Could be during the day. So we are going to cover
a couple of things in this episode. It's going
to be a really quick episode. It's probably going
to be an hour. So strap in, strap up, put your
butt plug in strap on strap on. Let's go really
quick. We're just going to do our drink of the
night. Cheers. You don't have to make the sound.
All right. I'll let you go first. I made a drink
I found on Facebook or one of those things. Hold
on, I'm trying to look for it well. All right,
so let me, you want me to do my first? Okay,
it's called the Hot Honey Peach Margarita. I
thought it sounded really good. It tastes good,
but not as good as it sounded. Oh. I don't know.
it's um yeah two ounces of tequila i did three
um one ounce of peach puree i use the kerns it's
obviously like more like a peach juice so i think
it needed more than one ounce so you know and
that's something you just bought today yeah for
this drink yeah One ounce of fresh lime juice
and a half an ounce of hot honey, which I use
the I think it's called Mike's hot honey Mike's
hot honey. Yeah, and then you can garnish it
with peaches or whatever So yeah, all the things
just go into a shaker shake it up like a margarita
pour over ice voila Speaking of shaking up. You
said you put a tick tock out there today. Oh,
I did. I didn't watch it yet Oh, it's like five
seconds. It's just of our Athena's night like
us driving there because we did a hitting the
streets and then our fit and then us in the famous
ice cream truck which we'll talk about a little
later. The ice cream truck, yes. With all the
signatures behind us and then us at Norm's. Norm's.
Oh, the breakfast place. So yes, we uh, we had
a fairly eventful night last weekend, right?
Was it last weekend? I think so. No, it was the
weekend before Last weekend. We did the pool
party The weekend before. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're
right. You're right So, uh before we dive into
athena's I just want to touch on her what we
got coming up. So tomorrow night is uh, June
27th and it we are celebrating Uh bud's birthday
bud's birthday her birthday extravaganza It's
all all the people are gonna be there. It's gonna
be a big time big time Yeah, if you're in the
area join us. It's a wine garden great style.
It's open to everybody No wine and beer garden
in Temecula Friday June 27th that starting at
8 p .m. We're gonna be there. Yes, and then um
It's if you are gonna come it's a red and black
themed. Yes, that's right red and black for the
guests If you don't own red or black, that's
fine or black you can come As you are. Yeah.
And then, um, we've talked about this for a few
times and we are two seconds away from confirming
that the hotel reservations and everything, but,
um, July 11th through the 13th, which is a Friday
night, Saturday night, leaving Sunday, we are
going to EDR, the world famous EDR in Palm Springs.
So if you want to join us there, uh, go to edrhotel
.com. You can get all the details, but we are
going to be there for their, uh, their second
welcome back weekend because they, you know,
went normal for a little bit, but they're coming
back with the phone party. So that should be
interesting. Yeah. Um, and we got a lot of other
things coming up, but those are the two things
right now coming up. Right. Right. So Athena's
well, so first off, like you said, we, um, We
did the hit in the streets with the sweeps. Yeah
sweeps Yeah, sweep in the streets with the sweet
in the streets with the sweets. So Athena's was
fun We actually met some people who listen to
our podcast there. We met them you met I think
yeah, I met them prior at one of my Co comeback
shows. Yeah a couple months ago. Yeah So, um,
but that was really quick. So we actually got
to chat and talk to them, hang out with them.
Um, I know at Athena's, um, we are going to be
calling them sweet and sour. Um, why are we calling
them sweet? Okay. So they're very new. They got,
just got into it in January. So, uh, you know,
six months in. Yeah, although they've already
been to desire so they've already done that they
still have that but yeah, they're very new and
They went to They're like first pool party thing
that they went to was at be a Vita and it's in
California for most part everything's BYOB. So
they were bringing margarita Like the pre -mixed
margarita to drink that day because it's easy
you could pour like you don't have to mix things
blah blah blah A lot of reasons that's a great
option um And you know trying to get it take
the edge off to obviously make it easier to be
there And they just were not getting a buzz at
all. And one of them was like, I'm pretty sure
I can drive home. Yeah, like they then they realized
like midway through or towards the end of the
day, something of that nature, that they were
drinking just margarita mix. It didn't have any
tequila in it. So it's just like sweet and sour.
So I was like, I told them, like, well, no wonder
you didn't have a buzz. You might have had diabetes,
but not a buzz because that's a lot of sugar
without any. of the benefits of alcohol so anyway
so they are now sweet and sour they are now the
sweet and sour couple and they didn't get it
when we uh announced their name to them well
i mean margarita mixed sweet and sour i mean
they are the same things basically but not a
lot of people not everybody knows that it was
it was a one and one together it was it was a
play on yeah everything yeah so um but anyway
so yeah we met them and um he was saying like
oh you know you guys always say come if you see
us like come out hang out with us but i just
didn't really think you guys meant it but we
mean it like if you see us if you see us come
say hi like come hang out with us like we want
to meet everybody um so that's i mean if if we
didn't Mean it we wouldn't broadcast it to the
world. Yeah, and where we're gonna be all the
time Yeah, so be like just run into us if you
run into it, but I get it He was telling me he's
he's he's very much very similar to me like introverted
introverted and he doesn't want to be a bother
Yeah, and I told him I can appreciate that right
you you're not being a bother, but you're not
a bother So but again this this goes out to anybody
and everybody if you see us or you think you
see us come ask us and I dare you. So Anyway,
so we met them we were taught we spent a good
amount of time with them in the pool Just chatting
it up. Look getting some information about desire
because we've never been They had only great
things to say about it. The food was good. The
drinks were good The people were good like they
had a great time. Yep Made some good connections.
So if you're thinking about going desire, I would
say they recommend it and it's definitely on
our list of things to do. Yeah It's just a lot
of commitment. Yeah. I got her naked fairly quickly.
Yeah. So she was wearing a hat that says I'm
not wearing underwear, but yet she was wearing
a bathing suit bottom. So you got her to take
that off real quick. Yeah. But I think that that's
what their preference is. It is. It's just some
people have to be told it's okay. Yeah. And I'm
normally one of the first people to encourage
that. So yeah, they're a cute couple. Super cute.
So yeah. Handsome. Handsome. Yeah. So we hung
out with them. And then I don't know how we ended
up in like we were outside the pool. We were
all putting like reapplying sunscreen or something.
And then you start talking about coconut oil.
Yeah, I think it's kind of we got there because
I'm always trying to push, especially with newer
couples. Like I love newer couples because I
I'm I don't know. I'm I'm not super super pushy,
but I'm good at kind of instigating a little
bit and I think oh we were standing there and
You and I still had our shorts on he had his
shorts on or you had bathing suit bottoms Yeah,
she was naked at that point cuz she owned it.
Yeah, but I had I yeah I brought my coconut oil
and I was just bringing up like hey have you
guys ever used coconut oil and They were talking
about how they, in the past, they've done some
coconut oil and it didn't really work out. I'm
like, well, this is like, this is the real deal.
This is Costco. And so I like put a little bit
on their hands or whatever. And I was like, Hey,
maybe you should give him a little hand job.
And then she's like, okay. And then she went
and started rubbing and I'm like, I pulled my
pants down and you started rubbing mine. And
we were doing like in like a circle. Yeah. Like
a drum circle almost. We were standing in a circle
outside of the pool basically. It had to look
weird from like how far. So many directions at
once. Because like are they doing drugs? Like
what are we doing? And then so we're standing
there and then I was like kind of like switch
and then she started jerking me off and vice
versa. Yeah. So yeah, it was just it was a fun
kind of like just light pushing a little bit.
Yeah, it was very innocent Yeah, and uh, but
there was people around watching like there was
a guy watching There was a guy behind us. Why
not though? We were like literally standing right
by the pool in the middle of everything You're
talking about the guy that wanted to suck your
toes or something. Yeah Well, I don't know if
it was the same guy but that he was with that
guy same same group He was with the same people.
So uh, we were doing this circle jerk hand job
thing for the better part of like Ten minutes.
I don't think it was that long. It felt that
long. Like I was having a grand time It felt
long enough to me to think to myself if I if
they weren't so new and I knew him better like
in a way that I knew because a lot of our earlier
conversations were things of how they Had experiences
where people had touched that weren't yeah, you
know, they didn't ask and like they had had some
just experiences like that's like not consensual
kind of things and just people being weird, which
whatever. But anyway, so I didn't want to be
that weird person because otherwise I like it
got to the point where I was like, I'm just going
to get on my knees right now. I was I was literally
probably. like 20 seconds away from like suggesting
that, but in my head, I'm, I was thinking that
same thing. I was like, I don't want to push.
I had kid gloves on boundaries and I don't want
to be inappropriate. I don't want them to feel
pressure. I didn't want them to feel uncomfortable.
Um, like a bad level of uncomfortability, like
obviously some of this is uncomfortable anyway,
but I didn't want them to feel like a bad level
of uncomfortable. the same like you got to get
comfortable with the uncomfortable sometimes
because you know, whether it's emotions or boundaries
being pushed. I mean, there's, there's always
something that's going to be pushed a bit that
doesn't feel quite right. At least, you know,
in the beginning stages, but it was like, it
was, it was fun. And I was like, we could move
this, but I was just like, you know what? This
is very good right here. Yeah, like I don't I
don't need to go further with it exactly So i'm
like we can exist in this circle jerk And then
I think what happened is somebody called out
that there was an ice cream truck And so that
kind of split up our little circle jerk thing
going on. Yeah, so They had already told us that
there was going to be like an ice cream truck
there And we're like I was kind of like that's
kind of weird and I didn't have we used the cash
I brought to tip the girls and the bartenders.
That's what I meant. I want to say girls. I know
you knew who I was talking about. But yeah, people
listening would know what I'm talking about.
Like what girls are you tipping the bartenders?
And then. I so we didn't have any other cash
and I wasn't sure how the ice cream thing worked,
but I didn't really want me, but I wanted to
see it. And I was like, oh, if you guys want
ice cream, let's just go check it out. So we
went out there, checked it out. It was actually
really cool. It was free, first of all, so we
didn't even need to have any money. The ice cream
was free and the truck was really cool. It had
all over the ceiling. It had pictures of just
different. Mostly musicians, but some comedians
and some just famous people But like almost every
musician musician you could think of like there
was a ton and then a bunch of comedians musicians
Yeah magicians. Oh, yeah, like you name it Yeah,
and then all around the outside of the or the
the inside but on the walls of the Truck were
ice cream truck were like signatures. So they
all had also signed the walls So there's pictures
on the ceiling and then there's all their signatures
and and just all over the wall And the pictures
are them inside the truck. Yeah, that'll go later.
Yeah, and then he had like a ton of Lanyards
with you know passes on them from Concerts and
things that clearly he'd been to and then he
had like a row of like wristbands From things
he had been to hanging over So it was just like
and then the whole inside the truck was like
it was it wasn't like your average like ice cream
truck Like there was leopards like couch kind
of it went around the edge of it And then basically
there was just like a freezer like a small Freezer
essentially in it that that's where the ice cream
was like one that you would see at a convenience
store Yeah, so that's the ice cream part of it.
But the rest of it was like loungy with like
I Don't know. It was just an it was just a vibe.
It was like and the guy was a total like old
School like hippie hippie rocker like it like
roadie fives. He was saying that he owned like
a couple of businesses that kind of ran themselves
or whatever. So it sounded like he had like just
passive incomes and then he just did this for
fun. And he would go to go to concerts and outside
of concerts, he'd go to comedy shows and just,
you know, just collect all this stuff, which
was really cool. Yeah, really cool to see. Yeah.
So Anyway, so he had a whole, like it was a whole
vibe in there. It was interesting to talk to
him. He said that the truck had seen things.
Does not surprise me. Yeah, it looked like it
had seen things. But jokingly, you get told you
look like Bert Kreischer. Yeah. So we found the
picture of Bert Kreischer and his signature.
And so then we were calling you Kurt Breicher.
Kurt Breicher. And they took a photo of me. Yeah.
By the same. Yeah. They're like, you got to take
your shirt off though. I'm like, OK. So that
was funny. Yeah So that was fun and then Later
oh speaking of ice cream later in the night You
found this girl that you were like, I think she
was a single a single female there. Yeah, she
was running around and I Had had my eyes on her
But again, I didn't really know much where she
was coming from or anything like that. Yeah.
And anyways, she had a thing for Kurt Breicher.
Kurt Breicher, Bert Kreischer. So at one point
there was a guy and he goes, why don't you eat
the ice cream sandwich off of her ass? And I
was like, all right, that sounds innocent enough.
And I was thinking it was going to be like ice
cream, you know, melted on a butt cheek. And
I was going to get on a, you know, easy enough.
Right. So she bends over and like gets in like
full, like doggy penetrate me. and then the guy
proceeds to take the ice cream sandwich and like
rub it like right in her vagina like just melted
it like a credit card it she was warm because
it melted like right away and he was like all
right I'm like oh damn so I have a thing with
eat an ass When I eat ass, it's not so much that
I go directly for the butthole I just enjoy eating
women out from the back and sometimes the butthole
gets, you know tension, but it's not like my
My goal is not to just butthole. Yeah, like so
So in this case I I got to do what I like to
do and I stuck my face down there and I'm going
to town and I'm there for maybe five seconds
and I feel like an object coming up between my
lips and my tongue and Then I start lit and yeah,
there's it's like between us I'm like what the
fuck and I like I lick it and then I realize
it's his finger and I see what he's trying to
do. He's trying to finger her while I'm Hey,
you should have just like Warned me right or
like ask for consent because I'm not trying to
lick a dude's finger and But I mean we could
have worked it out better right, you know had
I known that's what he was going for I would
have moved more up to the butthole I mean, but
So anyway, so I'm down there doing my thing and
I feel a finger a hairy finger come in and I'm
like And I pull back and I kind of like look
and I was like whoop and then he pulls it out
I'm like, all right. And I go back in, finger
comes right back in. I'm like, I'm done. I'm
out. And he's like, no, I keep going. I'm like,
no, I am. I have completed my journey. I have
checked out of this hotel. Yeah. Leaving a Yelp
review. Right. So yeah, boner killer. But you
know what it happens It's a story it is a story
that will hold with me But anyway, so that was
that was that yeah, then there was a masseuse
there. There was a masseuse there giving massages
It's just normal massages, but I mean everybody
was obviously watching there was outside massages,
but they were just they weren't like Sexual in
nature or anything like that so Then we would
so then we Did some parallel play well, I think
yeah after the massages it was it was getting
into the dark at that point and sexuality was
starting to creep in and So we went to the actual
indoor playrooms to go check them out. Oh, yeah,
and we walked in there and Pretty much I think
all the beds were taken. Yeah, some people somebody
was fucking on each of the bed Yeah, and and
the vibe wasn't there like we walked in and kind
of looked around and the vibe just it wasn't
inviting Yeah, whatever the case was. Yeah So
I'm like, let me go check something I ran To
one of the outdoor beds and I found when that
was open. So I came back and retrieved you guys
and walked you over there and by in that like
one minute time it got taken but then we found
another one so we ended up finding a wide open
in the middle of the kind of by the massage table
there was just yeah one lonely bed they have
now at athena's if you have been there before
but haven't been there recently they now have
a saint andrew's cross so it's kind of like by
the saint andrew's cross behind the cabanas basically
so um yeah so we we were like You said have you
done parallel play and they're like we love parallel
play like perfect. Let's go Let's go parallel
play for those of you that may or may not know
what it is. It's typically Like two couples right
next to each other Some you know, there's sometimes
touching between the two couples, but it's it's
fairly innocent and it's really good for beginners
But it's really hot too. Yeah, cuz you get you
get live porn without the pressures of, you know,
having to necessarily engage with, you know,
another couple if you're not ready or whatever.
Right. And again, we were, we were kid gloving
just to make sure. Well, yeah. I mean, they had
said they had, well, he had told you, I guess
that well, when we got over there, uh, you guys,
I think you went to the bathroom and he, he came
up to me and he's like, all right, here's, here's
kind of how we play. Here's our rules. And it
was pretty much everything, but, uh, penetration
penetration. And I was calling, Oh, Okay, maybe
so it sounds like we could have pushed earlier
for more but think that everything happened perfectly
in my opinion so yeah, everything have everything
happens the way it should and yeah, so we did
that and then Yeah, I think D. I touched I was
touching like her leg or something at a few just
to kind of you know cross that barrier, but we
weren't close enough where It was like it was
kind of awkward for me like to lean to this like
I'm not I don't I'm not long -armed but at some
point fucking my knee went through the bed though
and I was like, oh Yeah, well you guys both started
on your knees on the cement going down on us
and Well, you know you going down on me and him
going down on her it was and I was like that
like I just kept thinking that does not seem
like it's comfortable and At that stage in the
game, you know, you're not even thinking about
it the next day. I was like But yeah, we were
going down on you guys for quite a while and
then got up and started to foot Anyway, so In
talking to them So I think that's how the night
for the most part. Oh, then we went to um, I
mean, that's how the sexual part of the night
ended and then we were like, oh we were we were
going to go eat and our hotel was by a Norm's.
So we. Which is like a Denny's. It's a nicer
Denny's for people that don't know what it is.
I don't know about. I guess it's nicer. It's
definitely nicer. Oh, it's definitely nicer.
Please. So it's 24 hours, but it was by our hotel.
And so we were like, oh, we're going to go eat
or whatever. And they're like, oh, do you like.
do you guys want company like we'd like we want
to go eat too so um because athena's has like
food here and there but i never eat when i'm
there and i think you ate a little bit i think
they ate a little bit but other than that there
wasn't a lot of eating do you hear that what
me rambling that's the sound of a commercial
we'll be right back thank you for listening to
the sweet side of life podcast if you're looking
to get a hold of us you can find us at our sweetums
hotline 951 -226 -5261. You can text us there,
you can call us and leave us voicemails, but
most importantly, you can send us all your dirty
pictures. And there's a good chance I'll hit
you back. But you can also find us at the sweet
side of life podcast at outlook .com. You can
find our tick tock at sweet side of life podcast.
And if you're on x, also known as Twitter, you
can find us at the sweet side pod. Thank you
so much. All right. And we're back. So we went
to Norm's. Continue. Had to break for our little
commercial deal. So, okay. So we went to Norm's
and yeah, so they, they drove us there actually.
Yep. And because they were drinking sweet and
sour all day. Yeah. And so we had breakfast with
them. And then they took us to our hotel and
then we said our good nights And that was it.
It was fun. Um, but in the time talking to them
They're actually coming tomorrow night. Yes,
they are coming tomorrow night over and over
again They also went to the pool party. We went
to last weekend. That's true. They did that too
Yeah, they're just they dove right in so no pun
intended um So in talking to them and actually
there's another listener who's been texting you
and um Who he what did he he tell you how it
is? He's supposed to be talking to his wife tonight,
but we'll see if he actually does yeah but he
He told you how do you talk his question was?
How do you talk your spouse or how do you get
your don't you can't cover your mouth when you're
talking? My eyelashes like sticking in my eyes.
I was trying to get it out So his question was
I'm looking at you to look at your phone to look
at the actual like text But basically it was
how do you get or how do you talk to your spouse
about getting into this? Yeah, more or less.
Yeah, I don't need the exact words. Yeah It was
like how do you how do you approach the subject?
Yeah more or less Yeah, so I think a lot of people
have a lot of different ways of approaching the
subject I think I was telling you to tell this
guy. I don't know if you did like what is his
name? Did he say we could say his name? I'm pretty
sure he did Well, I don't want to say it. I don't
say it if you I think I know what his name is
We've talked we've tied pretty sure we've talked
about him and used his name in the past past.
But anyway, he was asking and I personally think
obviously you have to know Ivan. Oh, he said
we can use this. Yes. No, he said absolutely
under no conditions to use my name. Sorry, Ivan.
No, he said, yeah, go ahead. Yep. So we are good.
So Ivan said he was asking like, how do you Well,
it said that well he So basically he was like,
you know, how do you bring it up? And then I
was like what level of discussions have you had
before and then he said we had a small experience
in Vegas it was that whispers and Something about
it. He didn't go into detail, but there's something
about the vibe of that night. She didn't particularly
like So, I don't know if they had a bad experience
or just the club wasn't what they expected I
don't know but it sounds like he is trying to
get her to go to another another event and I
Don't know if she shut the door on it. Yeah,
he's like what else like how can I do this? Yeah,
yeah, and I was telling them like the birthday
party tomorrow is Basically a meeting greet right
which is the lowest Form of LS event like the
lowest pressure because it's at a public bar
You know the most you're typically gonna do best
case scenario is make out with somebody at a
public bar and Even that's pretty wild So I've
been talking to him and I'm like you should try
talk to her, you know, they're cuz they're fairly
local and You know, he was like, how do we do
that? I'm like, well honesty You know the LS
is all about honesty Yeah, definitely don't trick
her and just bring her to the bar Yeah, that's
the last thing you want to do is be like hey,
let's go to a bar Yeah, all the you know an hour
from us and I think I think you're right. So
people getting into this or wanting to get into
this I think meet and greets are like the easiest
probably thing to do because it is a public place
and You can I mean, I remember one of the first
meet and greets we went to we kind of just sat
to the side and Didn't really interact with anybody.
We didn't get the wristbands. They were giving
out. Yeah, we were like just watching and kind
of seeing like if we could pick out who it was
and We were interested in anybody and just talking
and then it's very exploratory Yeah, and so it's
kind of like lets you dip your toes in just to
like see like are they a bunch of freaks or are
they just normal people and You know just happen
to have a side a little bit of both Yeah, so
when we were talking to sweet and sour about
their You know experience on how they kind of
like open the door to each other their origin
story Yeah, it sounded like they had a if I remember
correctly and I was obviously drinking but they
had a friend who I think it was maybe a married
couple that had said something about like what
they did something they did and um And both of
them sweet and sour both thought that the other
person would have been super judgy and like very
like against it or whatever. And they surprised
each other in the fact that they kind of just
both had the mentality of like, well, it's their
marriage. And if that's what they, you know,
want to do and they're both like consenting to
it and they're both good with it and, you know,
then. That's you know more the merit like yeah,
whatever, you know what? I mean more power to
them. That's their thing So I get so then because
I kind of looked at each other Yeah, so because
they both had that mentality. It was like, oh,
okay so and then I think that kind of opened
up from what it sounds like it opened up conversations
and then Those conversations kept opening and
then I think They listened to a couple podcasts
and kind of got some thoughts on that they thought
that but like things that people think like he
was telling me is like I thought like, like you
think of like dirty swingers like, you know,
that they're just like trashy and super horny
and like, you know, and I mean, everybody can
be those things, right? Like, yeah, but everybody's
those things in an aspect, but we're also People
yeah, so I think he said especially going to
RM Or yeah desire or whatever they He's like
especially going to that like you just realize
like people are just normal people and Good people
and I think that's like what we kind of learned
like what we've I mean, not that I never really
had that mentality. I mean, honestly, I didn't
even know what swingers were necessarily. Well,
we are our origin story. We went to clubs back
before we even knew what they were. We just knew
it was open sexually. Right. And then once we
realized what we're going to, then it all kind
of clicked. We never had like a negative. I started
dotting and the T's started crossing. And then
we all of a sudden now we're talking about on
a podcast. But yeah, like the people there he
was like the people we've met have just been
like so kind and then he also said like just
watching his wife like open up and Be more confident
in herself, which I can say a hundred and thousand
million percent that for me like being in the
LS has a thousand percent helped with me feeling
more confident about myself and better about
myself because It's like in monogamy world like
you don't get hit on Well, you do, but it's not
that I didn't, but you're taught to ignore it.
Exactly. You're taught to, yeah, you're taught
to ignore it. Like, so even if I did get hit
on, I wouldn't entertain it. And so it would
basically be, and you wouldn't tell me, right.
Cause it would upset me. Right. And then make
you want to fight. And it's just like, Yeah,
so then you just like feel guilty about it if
it does happen and then so that guilt doesn't
make you feel good So then it's like, okay then
I'm not I don't it was almost like I don't want
to be hit on because like don't look at me Because
I don't want like the feeling of guiltiness or
whatever So I mean, like I said definitely has
helped and he just said it like for him. He was
like it He feels like that this helped He's like
I didn't think I could love my wife more Yeah,
and it's crazy because I feel like I'm more connected
and I'm more Yeah, when he was telling us that
in the pool his voice was crack and I could yeah
He had like it was making him a little bit emotion.
I don't know what to hear But he was oh he was
wearing sunglasses, but I saw making him a little
bit emotional to talk about his wife His wife
and like how he was feeling about her and just
how like proud he is of her and just so I totally
digress there but that was a cute like nice moment
to like hear someone else talk about how like
doing like this like just the switch because
of like him always him thinking like oh it's
dirty it's this it's that and then the like the
complete 180 once he's like been in it and met
people and realized done things and like realized
like and seeing that like his relationship change
and um And the whole time i'm just like how can
I get a hand job? I'm like, yes. Yes, sir. So
which one's sweet? Which one's sour? Yeah, wait
of them two. Yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna go
with her sweet. He's sour. Okay Yeah, but yeah,
okay. I think she's got more kick than he does.
So I think he's the sweet one and she's the sour
I'm I don't know. I'm she's I think she's got
I'm thinking we might we might might have to
do a taste test. You know, i'm saying No, i'm
saying. I mean, i'm sure they both taste sweet,
but Uh -huh, i'll just i'm just thinking about
it now. All right um, so yeah, it was it was
a it was a nice it was a nice for us because
We've been in it for a while, but I still very
much consider us like new because in a sense
of Like we are a slow burn. We always have been
right, you know So for how how long we have been
in it our our experiences are still fairly limited,
right? So it's but it is really good to hear
like that that fresh right that fresh aspect
Yeah, like I I remember when I first got that
I still very much feel that way So it was it
was cool kind of being reminded of like the innocence
of it and right and when you first get into it
Yeah, so back to Ivan's story Yes, and his question
was how do you approach this? Conversation and
I I think that say listen woman. No I think that
honestly is obviously the best policy, but I
also think you have to be easy because the last
thing you want is somebody to think like, oh,
they're bringing it up just because they want
to go fuck a bunch of people. So I think like
it's hard to say what the best way is. I mean,
obviously you and I. We did all that. So you
kind of knew where my head was. And then, of
course, sweet and sour. Like they had that experience
where they both realized, like, oh, I'm kind
of seeing where her head is or his head is, you
know, on this whole situation. So I feel like
you kind of. But if you've been to Whispers and
you've done something like that with your wife,
then is probably is easier to approach it in
the mindset of like, hey, do you remember when
we went to Whispers? Like, I know. XYZ wasn't
like the best experience for you. But again,
we don't know what her bad experience was. It
didn't even say bad experience. It just said
didn't enjoy the vibe. Yeah. So that can mean
a thousand different things. Yeah, exactly. And
I mean, I can get that. Like, I get that if you're
at Whispers on the Saturday we were there, I
can see how you wouldn't enjoy the vibe. And
I mean, the first time we went to Whispers, you
didn't have the best time. No, I didn't. But
it wasn't my first experience. So I was willing
to give it another shot. Yeah. I think that the
key with a lot of these is understanding that
every experience is going to be different and
you can't judge the entire thing on one experience.
It's just like going to, you know, Disney world
and you not like in one roller coaster. because
this one went backwards like you might like the
ones that go forward you just you have to try
different roller coasters different rides really
weird analogy so anyway so you just have to try
super fucking weird analogy you just have to
try different things because you're gonna get
different vibes if you want to i mean you have
to that's the thing but i just think maybe you
bought the swinger membership but they didn't
i even hasn't no it's it's auto bill The wife's
like, what is this charge? But I do think I do
think using that experience to bring up again,
it would be probably easier for me to speak on
this if I knew exactly what she didn't what part
of the vibe she didn't like. But but bringing
that up again and just being like, hey, do you
remember when we did this? And I know this part
wasn't, you know, your favorite. But what about
this part? Like you enjoy this aspect of it like
and then you can. Focus on that aspect right
you try to you know put that forward right? So
I don't know or just tell her how you felt like
oh I feel like and the other the other thing
I was telling you to tell him is that he could
use even us as like like a Way in like a key
like so I came across this podcast this couple
wildly is into this Ethical non -monogamy. It's
wild. Um, i've started listening to them and
like what are your thoughts on that? Uh or Listen
to one with me and then have a conversation around
it like what your thoughts are on it and what
you know if so if if someone's response is like
No, never gross not doing it then shelf it for
them. Yeah. Yeah, I would put it on the shelf
They're clearly not open to the conversation.
They're clearly not ready for it But if they're
like, oh, that's interesting. I mean more you
know Good for them or whatever. Yeah, then maybe
they're willing to entertain it a little bit
more or listen to the podcast I mean or I will
say One mistake he made what's that is? Him and
I We've been chatting for you know a hot minute
here. Yeah over our Sex line which the you probably
heard the number in our commercial taking new
pit nude pics, please One thing I think he he
failed to do as in at least for this coming party
is You gotta set the stage early, right? And
we have been talking now for a while, and I told
him about the party. I'm like, it's low pressure.
Okay, cool, I'll talk to her. I hit him up today,
the day before the party. I go, hey, did you
guys figure it out if you can come? He goes,
I haven't been able to talk to her yet. We have
some alone time. I'm gonna talk to her tonight.
Fail. you got to give her a chance to process.
Yeah. Or maybe not. Maybe I don't know. You don't
know her, but the fact that she's the type of
person who, I think the fact that we've had all
this conversation that maybe he's the processor
and she's the one who's like, maybe you never
know. We'll see if they come tomorrow. Yeah.
Dive right in. But I just, I just think like
for me, I would have been like, I would have
planted a seed. And then you know, like two weeks
ago and like hey, there's this thing coming up
in a couple of weeks. What do you think? Oh,
yeah, we'll talk about it later You gotta you
gotta give that time of talking about it later
Because this drop in like the night before that's
that's I don't know. I don't think that's the
best route, but but that's us It could work,
you don't know her. He could be like, hey babe,
there's this meet and greet thing going on. This
podcast that I've been listening to. It's a lot
of people who are likely at Whispers that time
when we were there. We should go. They all said
you should come. So we'll see if they show up
tomorrow, bright eyed and bushy tailed. I will
give you a high five and see. You are correct.
I didn't say I'm correct. I'm just saying I will.
I will tell you, you are correct. Oh, will you?
Yes. If they show up and they're like, Hey guys,
high fives, high fives, high fives all around.
Um, but anyways, I just, I think in general,
unless you know your, your person is okay with
that, I think it's best to plant the seed, talk
about it, build it up, give it time to let process.
Um, And then another thing, I know we've talked
about this previously, but it's very much related
to the subject now is if you're the one that's,
um, the instigator of the whole thing, don't
involve yourself too much in, in groups. And
you know what I mean? Like don't go in one sided
so hard. Cause we've talked about it. Like there's
some guys that join all the Facebook groups and
all the things and they join all the sites without
their, their person knowing. And then they come
to them and they're like, Hey, I've been checking
this out. And the other person's like, Oh yeah,
cool. Like what have you been doing while I'm
on this Facebook group, this Facebook group,
this Instagram thread. And all of a sudden, all
of a sudden you've, you've started this adventure
without your person. And that is not a good way
to start because the person's already going to
be feeling like behind the eight ball and like,
you know, I can't believe you, you, you went,
you did all this without me. It's like, it's
one thing if you listen to a couple of podcasts
and you say, Hey, but just don't like completely
dive in the pool without letting them know you're
going swimming. See, that was a good analogy.
Your Disneyland one was shit. Everything I say
is fucking gold. Eat a dick. How about that and
Another thing guys wordle if you guys haven't
played it New York Times they have a daily wordle
What you can do is like Whoever you play like
your person and whoever wins they get to choose
how they come that night Has nothing to do with
any of this. This is just a just a free nugget
of information for us So I think we're gonna
be closing someone out pretty soon. Is there
anything else you wanna, any whipped cream you
wanna put on the top of this pumpkin pie? Well,
good luck, Ivan. Yeah, hope to see you, actually
hope to see you today because you're gonna be
listening to this if you do on Friday morning.
If you listen to this on Saturday, oops, you
missed it. We had a great time, I'm sure. There's
always going to be another one. We are always
announcing pool parties. We always do pool parties
during the summer. And then once football season
rolls around, we start doing Sunday fun days.
And these are all public events we talk about.
So everybody can come hang out with the suites.
Yeah, I was also just thinking you just asked
me because the whole thing was like, how do you
bring it up? I think other people to we've heard
Swinger's couch podcast talk about how they kind
of brought it up and they would be like Fucking
and then like talk about oh, what if fantasies?
Yeah fantasies like what if so -and -so is here?
What if so like what if there was another guy
or whatever and So I think there's a lot of different
ways to bring it up But I think part of it is
knowing your person well enough to know what
way works best for them. Yeah Cuz that could
be that could be very hot But if then if but
your person could be like why are you thinking
about other people? Why right like you? You gotta
you gotta gauge that but I mean, yeah, it's you
know role -playing fantasy. It can definitely
be a back door in Because yeah, you can be like,
you know, I'm thinking about you doing this this
this and oh, yeah That sounds fucking hot. Yeah,
and everybody comes and it's like you get that
post not clarity and yeah, like I was weird like
I came because I was thinking about my wife sucking
another guy's dick and all of a sudden you're
like Start feel icky and you're like no just
get over it get over that ickiness. Yeah, it's
gonna be there It's gonna be there for a while.
You just kind of have to get past it Yeah, so
there I mean there's a lot of like yeah, like
you said talk about fantasies. I mean we've done
that like I'll be sitting on your face Stroking
your dick and I'll be going And I'll be like
what if some what if a girl was sucking your
dick right now? So yeah All right, so I think
there's my phone I'm gonna text somebody really
quick. I think there's a I think there's a lot
of ways to approach the situation and so there's
not really one like The point here is I guess
there's not really like one best way to do it
It's all depends on your person and it also depends
on like what level of experiences you guys have
had up to that point like when we were talking
to the sweet and sour couple they were like yeah
we we did some kinky things in vegas and then
turns out they went to a burlesque show which
for them was kinky at the time and that and that
can be kinky and i don't know what level of conversation
they had or whatever but i think they kind of
joked they kind of laughed about after they said
it because they were like now like things that
they see and do just in the past six months two
hours later they're like they're like circle
jerk they're basically like i mean the The burlesque
show is essentially like a vanilla thing, right?
But, but I mean, that's something to like, do
you ever go to strip clubs with your spot? Like
you're sitting, you watch porn, significant other.
Do you watch porn together? Like things like
that. Like if, if those, those are all gateway
things to talk about, like what do you think?
Yeah. Cause with porn you can, you can watch
porn and then you can comment on the other person.
Right. And if you like, oh, I love the way her
ass looks or look at her tits, they look great.
If if she or he is able to get over like that,
that's a huge hurdle. Yeah. To me that you could
do that. I mean, that's one way to do it. Or
you could be starfish. Or you could be like,
it would be so hot if you were her and that was
happening to you. Yeah, there's a bunch of different.
You were him and that was happening to you. Do
it all. So it doesn't have to necessarily be
like. Because that might be a little much for
somebody to be talking about somebody else if
you're not really in that position but to say
like oh if It would be really hot to see you
in like that Scenario or whatever. Yeah What
do you like and that starts a conversation? So
I think there's a lot of different ways but Definitely
if your person is not if you don't do any of
those things together and nothing, you know,
it's super like your Sex life is super vanilla
or non -existent and you guys it's gonna you're
gonna have a longer road I guess and so you're
gonna have to Take it. I've heard like people
taking like two you two three years to like even
get to the first house party or something And
then everybody has a different road. So yeah,
everybody has a different road in a different
speed A different roller coaster ride See fucking
brilliant Just say it. I'm brilliant. So it's
hard. So again, I just repeat myself It's hard
to say what is the best way to do it because
I don't think that that really exists the best
way is whatever way gets you you know to where
you want to be and It can be slow. It can be
fast. It can be direct or it can be like You
know all over the place Who knows? So we're really
bad at giving advice on these types of things
because it's I want to be realistic. Like you
can't just be like, oh, here is the way. The
only way is this way. Yeah, there's no such thing
as the wrong or right way. Just like once you're
in it, there's no right or wrong way to do it.
You know, some people got to figure out what
works for you. Yeah. Some people like like us,
we're slow burners. We usually don't do date
nights. Like date fuck nights like we usually
don't like meet couples to then just directly
go fuck them like yeah We don't we don't rent
hotels with the intention. Yeah, that's not there
like right now. We've ended up at hotels Yeah,
we've definitely ended up at hotels and it's
not our Our initial goal, right? But we have
friends that that's what they like to do and
that's great for them And I love that for them
for us. That doesn't work the same way for us.
So um There's also, again, once you get in it,
there's not even one way to do it. It's like
everybody has their own kind of path and realistically,
this is for us. So it doesn't really matter what
everybody else does or wants to do or whatever.
It's like if it doesn't suit our relationship,
then it doesn't work for us. Think that's important
to remember is that people getting into it. You
don't have to go from like zero to a hundred.
I mean Go to meet and greets and just because
if you go zero to a hundred There's a good chance
you're gonna go negative 50 Yeah, and then you
got to make up the ground just to get to that
like base level again to where the point where
everybody trusts each other again, right? And
then and that's not everybody like some people
can go zero to a hundred But most you know some
I think most people When they're getting into
it with no context prior like they probably start
off a little bit slower I think a lot of also
has to do with how you're raised like how you're
pre -programmed exactly how you're pre -programmed
about sex and sexuality and religion I mean all
those things play like guilt and all that plays
a like role into How you feel and then once you
get in it like like how you can process everything
and how you can move that way. And then also
it has to do a lot with to like, how are you
feeling like, like your sex drive, like everyone's
sex drive is different. So just because you're
in the LS doesn't mean you have like the super
high sex drive that you want to go have sex all
the time. Some people do. And I'm so happy for
them. And some people don't. And, you know, so
it's just every again, everybody's on their own
path and they all start different. So. That's
my you just got to find your yellow brick road.
There you go. That's my two cents My ten cents
is something like that. What does everyone say?
That's my two cents. My ten cents are free Who
sent you sent you sent for me? I don't know.
I know this looks like a job for me. So everybody
On that note controversy because it feels so
empty without me All right. Oh just gonna task
it I go tip for tap While we're talking about
music tip, July 26, we talked about it on the,
um, on the, uh, last episode, the goodies. Oh
yeah. We are going to OB San Diego, July 26.
I'm pretty sure it's a date. Let me come. Yeah,
it is. It is. Yeah. And they're so the goodies
we talked about them. They're a couple who they're
a reggae band. Also a reggae band. We actually
you played their music in the last episode. Yep.
Yep. The hitting the streets. So cool people
from what we know. That we found out they're
actually friends with the steel workers steel
workers and the steel worker couple they go way
back and So we're making a whole event. We made
a Cassidy event. I gotta get a better name for
the steel worker couple I think they said we
can use their real names, but I'm gonna double
check that. Yeah, we'll check that but um, we're
gonna see them tomorrow Yeah, so we'll confirm
that anyway, so Yeah, we already got a hotel
booked. We're going to be at the harp. What's
that? Yeah, the harp that is at the harp. Yeah,
I just thought it was funny. We get a text from
her and she's like, you guys know the goodies
or you saw the goodies and I was like, yeah.
She's like, he's my reggae boyfriend. Yep. I'm
like, of course you know them. You guys know
everybody. That is for sure. So yeah, the 26
we got a hotel room booked. Um, we're going to
go to the harp. We're trying to make it a LS
kinky reggae party. So it's gonna be a good time.
Yes. Yes. All right. Now I think we're done.
I was done 15 minutes ago. I know. I just wanted
to really wrap that up. You had a lot of good
points. I'm glad we didn't finish when I wanted
to. All right. When enjoying the sweet side of
life keep your pineapples upside down believe
in unicorns and keep shaking it up People don't
realize that you say that. Oh, I know they said
that someone is like, oh no. Oh, I think it was
Mr. Sweet and sour he was saying um That's not
recorded. I'm like, no, I literally say it every
single time He's like you've gotten really good
at saying it the exact same way and i'm like,
well, I say it a lot exactly All right, so when
enjoying the sweet side of life, keep your pineapples
upside down. Believe in unicorns and keep shaking
it up. Love you, baby. Love you too. I love you.
I love you all. If you would like to get in contact
with us, please email us at the sweet side of
life podcast at outlook .com or you can always
find us on any one of our socials that are listed
in the podcast links.