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if you're just tasting these, charge my phone.

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Everything in here is plugged in.

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Including us, including our cat, which, photo.

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Remember Michael put photo, cat being little,

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I random white light.

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Welcome to It's Your Loss podcast,

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where raw stories of resilience and healing are told,

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all while uncovering and destigmatizing

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the diverse symptoms of loss.

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Welcome back to the podcast.

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If you missed last month's episode, well, it's your loss.

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This is the unofficial beginning of the new season.

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The new season is actually still going to start in April,

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but I'd be remiss if I didn't put up this episode.

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We had a lot of feelings, a lot of things

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that triggered feelings of loss

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and how we dealt with them seemed to be wide and varied,

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but I will tell you that there is one thing

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that everybody did, and that's what they said.

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They practiced self-care.

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I am here with Sam Simmons.

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Ah!

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Well then.

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Ha ha ha.

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All right, everything's reset again.

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Whether or not I actually use that, we'll see.

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This might all wind up on the cutting room floor,

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but we don't know.

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Sorry guys, didn't mean to do that.

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I just wanted to give you the accurate,

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emotional response to the election results.

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Yeah, yeah, so some people definitely woke up

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and started screaming.

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Some people woke up, looked at their phones,

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rolled over and went back to sleep.

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Hot-blooded panic for me, honestly,

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and I also looked up the prices for housing

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in both Canada and in Mexico.

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What's more preferable right now for you?

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Me personally?

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Mexico.

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Because my mother lives in Canada, the frigid north.

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So as far away as physically possible,

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does it make it more difficult for her?

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I didn't realize that the relationship

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between you and your mom was a thing

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where you needed to get two countries away.

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It's actually not.

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I just like to be a butthead.

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I would try to get away from my mother

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if she's in the shelf upstairs.

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So we both have our ways of going.

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That's nice.

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Levity is one of the ways that a lot of people

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deal with stress and freaking out.

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As is the case, if you knowing that this is a podcast about grief,

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you can just come and scream it.

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I love that.

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I mean, it's always got to.

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So I'll start this off just from a personal note

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of what happened to me.

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And I feel like what my symptoms that I actually had,

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because I woke up that morning feeling ill.

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I had not even looked at the phone or anything.

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Like I went to bed before the results.

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I took a look at what the results were at that point.

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And Mike Tyson.

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Those of you who saw the fight understand that joke.

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The fighting is gloved the entire time.

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Hopefully none of you all put down money.

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Oh, God.

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I hope not.

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I hope not.

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I felt bad enough just walking away from that thing,

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just watching it.

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Like it was such a sad turnout.

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But you actually got to watch it?

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The Netflix was shut down.

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Oh, my Netflix was doing perfect.

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Yeah, the entire time.

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Oh, my God.

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OK, so we were over at the Comic Book shop

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that you've been to also.

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If you all have any idea what I'm talking about,

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you absolutely don't.

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So it just kept going in and out.

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And there was no actual screen for a while.

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That's rough.

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Yeah, we had to watch on our phone

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while we were sitting there.

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I think I had two buffering moments,

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and those were during other people's fights.

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I loved those fights.

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Yeah, those were passionate real fights

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that I felt like actually had stakes.

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So anyway, I woke up the morning after the election

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and just feeling like crap.

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Head was hurting, stomach was roiling, joints were hurting.

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I felt like I had the man flu, to be honest with you.

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Then I checked the results.

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And everything that I had added the effect

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of feeling the stomach drop.

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Because it's not the fact that I'm afraid of Trump

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and what he's going to bring into office.

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I feel like I kind of know.

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There's a lot of things that people say

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when they want to get elected that don't necessarily

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come to fruition because either A, it takes time, or support,

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or they just want to get the people stirred up

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and enough frenzy that yes, they will get the vote.

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It happens on both sides.

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I'm not just saying that the left or the right, it happens.

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Trump has a way of actually doing what he says

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that he's going to do.

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is fucking horrible.

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That's true.

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Every time.

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So maybe my stomach dropping was kind of realizing that too,

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that he has such a single-minded pigheadedness

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about everything that he does.

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Does nobody remember the first four years?

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No, I don't think they do.

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Content for days, unfortunately.

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Every single day on Twitter was a horror show.

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I mean, it's good for the comedians, right?

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You know, for it's heyday for the comedians.

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They have pretty much a secure job for the next four years.

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But yeah, right?

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Don't want to steal your thunder, but yeah.

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It was about 6 o'clock in the morning when I did wake up,

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because I'm trying to wake up naturally here recently.

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So that's forcing myself to get up around 6.

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it's still late enough for me to get to work on time.

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And also gives me enough time to eat right instead of going out

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to eat a lot, because me personally, whenever I wake up,

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it's always in a cold sweat.

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Very terrified of the night before.

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You, like, every night?

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Wow.

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You know, therapy.

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Therapy, my guy.

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No, no.

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I just got a raw dog life.

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I probably should.

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Oh, man.

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So this is my therapy.

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Good.

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You talk to people, you know?

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No, just this.

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Oh, just this?

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Just this part.

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Just the two episodes that I've been on.

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This is the only about a therapy that I can afford.

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Thank you, American Health Care System.

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It's only going to get better.

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Did my mic turn off?

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Oh, there it goes.

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It's on again.

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It's on again.

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Go back, guys.

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You wake up in the morning?

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Yeah, so I wake up in the morning at 6 o'clock.

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Not feeling like P. Diddy?

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No.

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And nor being felt by P. Diddy.

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So if you win some, you lose some.

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I'm sorry.

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The whole my body feels horrible.

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And I'm thinking, all right, well, I already feel sick.

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And we have a pretty much standing order at the office

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that if you feel sick, don't go to work.

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Because it's only 20-something people

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if a virus breaks out in that office.

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That's the entire office?

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Yeah, we're all a bit low.

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So I was like, all right.

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In the back of my head, I'm like, all right,

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so that's what I'm going to do.

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I'm going to follow protocol.

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I'm going to call in.

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at 6 o'clock in the morning.

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So we have pretty chill people.

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I wind up texting in.

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And of course, no one responds to me for the entire day.

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But then I go in to work the next day.

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I'm feeling better.

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I had my day, which I'll get into that further here

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in a minute.

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But I had my day.

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I went in and then nobody said anything.

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I wasn't in trouble.

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And everybody was like, hey, do you feel better?

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So they got the text.

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They just didn't answer it, which is infuriating

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as somebody who likes to respond, like, talk via text.

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Yeah, I just feel like the other person isn't there.

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So physical ailments and then a day of self-care,

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which I'll talk about that.

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That's what my day after the election day.

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That's what that was my November 6th.

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I was able to do that.

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I think Marley was able to go to work.

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It's just me here by myself.

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That was my day.

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You have a whole family to contend with.

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Well, contend, live, however you want to put that.

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But you have a whole family to live with.

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What was your reaction?

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What was your family's reaction?

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I doubt your kids really had much to think about.

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Thank you, Mike.

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I'm glad that you asked.

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I beat my children that day.

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I'm so asleep.

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Whole sale abuse.

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I mean, somebody's got to, as a parent,

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you have to do those sort of things.

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You need to beat your children.

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But no, both Claudia and I had nothing but jokes to say.

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The entire day, which, you know, it's at least one thing

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to feel better about.

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But also, it just feels real.

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I don't like it.

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But yeah, woke up, took a shower like usual, angry.

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Got dressed, angry.

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Looked at my wife, not angry.

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That's good.

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But she looked at me angry.

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So she matched my energy.

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Faced turned angry.

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We've just been complaining about it,

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not stopped that entire day.

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Made some food.

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The kids asked what was wrong.

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And we both said, nothing.

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And then I think I wanted to make some happy content,

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just to get me out of the funk.

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And that didn't work.

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I never posted it.

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Did you post anything at all about it?

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I think it's best if I did.

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Fair enough.

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Straight up.

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My initial reaction was generally screaming.

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At the top of my lungs, to nobody in particular,

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and incoherently.

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Same thing with Claudia.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You matched that energy.

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Really nice.

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I'm with somebody who doesn't necessarily

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match my energy when it comes to the more high energy stuff.

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Because I tend to lean a little bit more

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towards the manic side in general, especially

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if my ADHD is in full swing that day.

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Or if I'm hyper-focused on something, which again,

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is still under ADHD, but still.

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So she's more methodical.

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And if anything is really emotionally charged,

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that's going to get her, it's going

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to be the negative stuff that is more

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of a personal slight towards her.

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Like somebody has done her wrong or something like that.

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So she didn't really feel like anything was done wrong

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towards her during this.

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And so what I watched, she was a little bit more quiet.

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I have to say that was about the only symptom that I saw

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that anything was really kind of affecting her.

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She didn't want either side, either major side.

302
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She didn't want Kamala.

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She didn't want Trump.

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And that's why she decided to vote for somebody else.

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I don't remember what his name is,

306
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but somebody who is independent.

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I don't think it would be Green either way.

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She just didn't feel like her consciousness was

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going to allow for either side.

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But I'm seeing as I took a look at some of the numbers.

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I'm not going to pull them up here because that's just

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depressing, but the amount of people who didn't vote

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instead of voting for something else, which was just wild

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for me because as much as a fever pitch as we've tried

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to introduce to the younger voters, the new voters,

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it's like, hey, it's your thing to vote.

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I don't really know what the ages were or anything like that.

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In fact, that might be something that I could look up,

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but I'm not that prepared.

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But I'm just wondering how many younger voters went,

321
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this isn't worth it at all.

322
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And just didn't vote.

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Yeah, and didn't vote because what you see on the news,

324
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what they want to put in front of the screen

325
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are older, angry people voting for either side.

326
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Yeah, well, of course.

327
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And they didn't really highlight any of the younger

328
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generation, which makes me wonder, did they get left out?

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She voted independently.

330
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We don't really talk heavy into politics.

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In fact, we're good with that for any members of our family.

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One of the things that I have found out over the last 12

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years is that the people who you think politically,

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they could be on a completely different branch.

335
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100%.

336
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Right.

337
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Humor, maybe.

338
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Memes, sure, you could share the same memes all day long,

339
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but the moment you start talking about health care

340
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or women's rights or taxes or trans rights or anything.

341
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Yeah, immigration.

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People just learning what the hell the tariff is.

343
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I'm sorry, I'm one of those people.

344
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I understood the word tariff that it applies to someone

345
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who's getting charged.

346
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But it wasn't until a very kind teacher from Canada who

347
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puts out really good content on TikTok

348
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spelled it out on chalkboard for me at the ripe old age of 41

349
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where I went, OK, I kind of knew what was going on,

350
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but now I understand even more.

351
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Yes.

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Generally, it becomes a tax on the entire population.

353
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Yeah.

354
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Yeah.

355
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Because it sounds like, oh, well, we're

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just going to stop the inflow of stuff

357
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from outside of America.

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But unfortunately, America does not

359
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produce that much of anything.

360
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Right.

361
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Yeah.

362
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However, industrial age is long but forgotten.

363
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And then understanding that actually kind of put

364
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a little bit more emphasis on who I wanted to vote for.

365
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And you can probably infer from how I'm talking for who I voted

366
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for, but they didn't impose higher tariffs.

367
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And I was like, again, Trump does what Trump says.

368
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And he gets a lot of people behind him to make sure

369
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that things happen.

370
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Also, it's very important to remember

371
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that Kamala Harris started halfway through this year

372
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while Trump's been supporting, and we're not supporting,

373
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but trying to get that reelection since day one of 2020.

374
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Absolutely.

375
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So.

376
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And he was also been doing things before then,

377
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which there were people who were saying,

378
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hey, Kamala Harris's presence and her plans

379
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seem a little loose, a little half-baked.

380
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They appeal more for the emotions,

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getting people behind her and everything.

382
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We won't go back.

383
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Whereas Trump is hitting on the same thing, saying, hey,

384
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we're going to go back to this.

385
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We need to impose this again.

386
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And that's because he's been thinking about this for, well,

387
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I don't know how much to think.

388
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Yeah, for a while.

389
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But also, I feel like the entire Democrat Party,

390
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I put all of their eggs in the Biden basket

391
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that unfortunately, when they did switch over,

392
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now they have to have brand new policies that they

393
00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,840
want to write up for Kamala.

394
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But that was like an escape plan because Biden is falling apart.

395
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It's hard not to notice the bag of skeletons

396
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that's just walking around.

397
00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,160
OK?

398
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He's fallen to pieces on stage.

399
00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,800
But you know what the best thing about him

400
00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,200
and his stage presence and what he's having right now

401
00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,760
is the Michael Bay meme, where it just says something like,

402
00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,880
hey, are you really going to go fishing for the next three

403
00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:45,840
days or something like that?

404
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And Biden just looks back at the camera, starts to smile,

405
00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,000
and it cuts away.

406
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Oh my god.

407
00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,560
It says Michael Bay.

408
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Why did I do that?

409
00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,200
Best thing to happen out of all of that debacle.

410
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My day after I got up and started moving around and whatnot,

411
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I realized that A, I was probably hungry and dehydrated.

412
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And once I took care of those things bodily, I felt better.

413
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But the mental.

414
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Are you actually wanting to feel better?

415
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Yeah.

416
00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:15,920
Yeah.

417
00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,280
I woke up wanting to feel angry and I didn't want to stop.

418
00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,840
I was really nice with my kids, though.

419
00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:21,920
I didn't throw them away.

420
00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,760
They're still here, unfortunately.

421
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That's good.

422
00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,040
But yes, I didn't want to feel good.

423
00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,520
It's like I wanted to live in this moment of just hatred

424
00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,880
and anger.

425
00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,440
And I think I'm still there.

426
00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,360
Mentally, I was definitely doing that.

427
00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,520
Unstable, probably.

428
00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,360
I was feeling low.

429
00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,040
I was lost a lot of hair, since the last time I was told.

430
00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:43,760
It was rough.

431
00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,360
It just came off like I was a molting, like I was a Yago.

432
00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,840
You know, ripping out his own feathers.

433
00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,960
You know what's straight up last time that I saw him?

434
00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,200
I think he weighed a lot more.

435
00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,440
So yeah, maybe it's that.

436
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:55,960
Who knows?

437
00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,640
Maybe it's just stressing me a little.

438
00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,920
I'm going to write my congressman and say,

439
00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:01,920
look what Trump has done to me and just take before and after

440
00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:02,880
photos.

441
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See what I can get out of that.

442
00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,040
Wow.

443
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Fucking talent.

444
00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,880
No, mentally, I knew where I was at.

445
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I was snapping at myself on things on the screen.

446
00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,680
I snapped them hardly once.

447
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My wife once.

448
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,280
And it was a low key snap.

449
00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,000
And she's like, what?

450
00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,600
I'm lighting up, and man, I'm sorry.

451
00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,160
I'm just, I'm not in it.

452
00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,960
And then we had breakfast.

453
00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,320
It was great.

454
00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:26,960
She went to work.

455
00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,080
We're OK.

456
00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,120
Yeah, mentally, I knew that this wasn't something

457
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that I was just going to be able to push through.

458
00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,080
The physical stuff, sure.

459
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That's why I felt like shit, because I needed to hydrate

460
00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,560
and needed to eat.

461
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So that, you know, I at least took care of myself physically.

462
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I didn't go online because I felt like that was going to,

463
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I wouldn't be able to live in my space

464
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and help to process the emotions.

465
00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,960
It was just going to heap onto the fire.

466
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So where you said you didn't post anything

467
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because you were worried, I only posted reruns.

468
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OK, that makes sense.

469
00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,160
Also, I really did not want to have a conversation with anybody,

470
00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,040
especially my fathers and uncles.

471
00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:07,080
So I was like, well, I'm just going to screen some phone calls

472
00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,160
and not listen to anybody for a little bit,

473
00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,920
because, you know, I don't want to build up to anything.

474
00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,360
So that's another thing as well.

475
00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:18,600
I have family members.

476
00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,560
Yeah, how do you feel about family members

477
00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,280
that voted on the opposite?

478
00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,400
I've made a couple of videos about this

479
00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,760
and just kind of helped me process my thoughts about it.

480
00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,920
There are people out there who voted red, who voted blue,

481
00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,520
and not because of an emotional rhetoric,

482
00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,360
not because of the fact that they dislike a certain person

483
00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:38,960
a way of life or anything like that.

484
00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,840
They voted solely because of the money.

485
00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,960
As much as that irritates me,

486
00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,960
I know that some of these people didn't do it out of bigotry and racism.

487
00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,240
Right. But also the money aspect,

488
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if we're being real here, the economy is in the shithole.

489
00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,360
Because of a pandemic that happened in 2020,

490
00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:01,400
a response that was created by Trump

491
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,200
who could have closed borders earlier than that,

492
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,800
but instead decided to say that,

493
00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,560
oh, well, China is the enemy,

494
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,520
and instead we're just going to stop the influx of goods

495
00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,160
that are coming from there, but not exactly, you know,

496
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,120
halting interstate commerce.

497
00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:18,120
Yeah, it was messy.

498
00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:19,600
Some of my family members, some of my friends,

499
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,040
you know, they see something in Trump's response

500
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,160
that may somehow turn that around.

501
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,560
I'm not financially minded enough

502
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,240
to even know what they saw.

503
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,480
So I can't side with them on that.

504
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,960
But I do know that all in all, they're good people.

505
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,360
They just spend too much time watching TV.

506
00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:39,960
Yeah.

507
00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,880
Now, there are some people, however, who don't watch TV,

508
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,720
who still voted for them.

509
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,160
And some of the things that I have seen in their past

510
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,920
and the way that they have...

511
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,640
Let's say you know that whole metric where they say

512
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,040
you can judge a person, how they judge them,

513
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,440
how they treat their wait staff?

514
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,240
Yes.

515
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:55,680
Yeah.

516
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,280
So there are moments like that where...

517
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,800
moments where they have treated them

518
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,040
as a member of society.

519
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,280
You lack empathy completely.

520
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,080
Oh.

521
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,720
And it just shines a big red light.

522
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,280
I wonder who they voted for, right?

523
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,800
Oh my goodness, it's crazy.

524
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,680
It's almost like that's the sort of people

525
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,040
that vote for that side.

526
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,160
And so I didn't want to...

527
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,520
And now I kind of know, like I'd already started

528
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,360
to kind of draw away from them because as I've become

529
00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:27,880
the person who I am right now, I am...

530
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,720
Good sir.

531
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:29,240
Yeah, thank you.

532
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:29,880
I appreciate that.

533
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,840
I'm trying to surround myself with even better people,

534
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,520
you know, because the way that I learned...

535
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,480
How did I get in this house?

536
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,640
I have no clue.

537
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:37,800
I took my key away from you.

538
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,160
You still wound up standing in the kitchen

539
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,160
when I came downstairs.

540
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,360
Actually sent me his address.

541
00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:42,640
Can you believe that?

542
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,040
Mistakes were made.

543
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,080
The whole idea of surrounding yourself

544
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,720
with people who either know more than you or better than you

545
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,280
is something that I learned as a manager working in fast food

546
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,960
for the longest time.

547
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,640
And I think that's why I made pretty decent teams

548
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,520
and why people were like, oh, you're always our best manager.

549
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,200
I'm like, please stop saying that to the other managers

550
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:01,720
to their face.

551
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,040
That's not fair to them.

552
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,040
Michael was better.

553
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:04,560
Yeah.

554
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,440
Michael was better.

555
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,720
I'm telling you, that's happened.

556
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,560
Like when people leave and it's like, all y'all suck,

557
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,120
except for him.

558
00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:12,160
He's the only one who knows what he's doing.

559
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,280
You're not my real dad.

560
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,440
I'm like, oh my god, please.

561
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,400
I have to work with these people after you leave.

562
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,200
What the fuck are you doing?

563
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,600
But I've always thought that.

564
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,760
And there were crew who knew how to do things quicker

565
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:28,560
and better than me.

566
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,360
People who had started like four or five months.

567
00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:33,880
They've only been there for four or five months.

568
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,240
They already know what they're doing.

569
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,680
I trust them in that position.

570
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,320
And instead of micromanaging them,

571
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,640
I'm like, you know what you're doing.

572
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,920
If you have any opinions, if you have anything like that,

573
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,280
please tell me.

574
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,280
And so that's how I'm living right now.

575
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,760
Empathy and you understand people.

576
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:47,260
Yeah.

577
00:20:47,260 --> 00:20:47,760
Right?

578
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,400
Yeah.

579
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,280
And how did you vote?

580
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:50,920
How did I vote?

581
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,240
Yeah.

582
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,040
I voted for Kamal.

583
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,080
Yes.

584
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:57,360
Yes.

585
00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:59,040
Wow, there's a correlation here.

586
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,160
But I don't know.

587
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:00,680
I don't know.

588
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,360
I mean, I read both of their websites.

589
00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,680
I listened to what rhetoric that's not politically

590
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,160
or emotionally charged.

591
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,520
And I laid them out and I did a good old fashion pros

592
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,480
and cons list at my desk.

593
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,200
Because I felt that as anytime that I

594
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,920
have to do anything that is going

595
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,040
to require a long term commitment from buying

596
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,920
a phone to selecting a president or somebody who's

597
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,320
going to lead in general, I want to know what's good,

598
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,280
what's bad, what's going to outweigh whatever.

599
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,920
And again, it could have been the fact

600
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:37,760
that Kamala had only had so much time.

601
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,160
Well, even with less time, she should have been able to get it

602
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,840
because it should have been a slam dunk.

603
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,200
He's a felit.

604
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,640
Did we forget that?

605
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,000
I mean.

606
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,200
Yeah.

607
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,080
Did we forget the massive amount of sexual allegations,

608
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,320
specifically between him and the teen USA models?

609
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:55,840
Did you?

610
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,160
Teen USA?

611
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,200
Did they?

612
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,320
There are so many things that did make me go, hey,

613
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,360
were you not listening?

614
00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:03,800
Were you not paying attention?

615
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,960
Did you only see what he was yelling and forget about all

616
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,880
the things that are being quiet right now?

617
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,680
And I mean, that's politics for you, though.

618
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:18,160
And so again, all of this just made me feel just horrible.

619
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,240
Like I said, snapping people, the mental state and everything.

620
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:30,160
Mine, my first thing into depression, was quick and immediate.

621
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,000
I don't really think there was room for any of the other five

622
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,520
stages.

623
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,600
If was there, there was really no bargaining.

624
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,400
Anger was definitely there.

625
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,320
I don't think I went through any of the other stages

626
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,640
where you decide to anger.

627
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,360
I don't think I ever felt any other ones.

628
00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:45,360
And I don't think I ever left.

629
00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:46,960
OK, so not even grief?

630
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,840
Because grief is one of the most dumb.

631
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,680
Oh, that is the reason for this podcast.

632
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,600
I'm going to say yes specifically because I'm

633
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,080
sorry.

634
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:53,960
Well, no, no, no.

635
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,240
It's what you really felt.

636
00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:00,160
Like was there any moment of, because grief is the brain's

637
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,640
natural way of letting go or trying

638
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,800
to let go of things that either could have happened

639
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,360
or that was.

640
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:11,040
So was there any moment where you were like, shit,

641
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,680
this could have been like this.

642
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,880
And then your brain just kind of went off into anger.

643
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,200
Or it was just like straight into anger.

644
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,160
I understood as soon as the electron results popped up,

645
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,520
I was like, yep, sounds about right.

646
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,200
So acceptance and anger at all time?

647
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,120
Because I mean, 100%.

648
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:30,320
Yeah, because there was no like trying to figure out

649
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,800
like, oh, what could have happened?

650
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,320
What could have I done better?

651
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,560
If I could have said other things.

652
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,320
No, people are stupid.

653
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,840
That's the horrible thing about being

654
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,360
in this kind of electoral process is the fact

655
00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:46,800
that you do what you think is best.

656
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,840
And whether it like, I'm sure there

657
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,720
are people out there who like saw some independent

658
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,880
and it was like, hey, you actually might be the best,

659
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,960
even though there wasn't a large campaign for them.

660
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,400
Maybe they saw something in that person.

661
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,760
And that person, you know, lost as well.

662
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,320
Or for some people's lives never even got a chance.

663
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,880
You do what you can.

664
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,880
You go, you vote, you do the research, hopefully.

665
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,760
Hopefully that's what you did.

666
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,240
And if you didn't, well, I guess at this point,

667
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,680
you could be part of that grief situation.

668
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,680
What could you have done better?

669
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,840
You could have done the research and you could have voted.

670
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,080
You could be, you probably are more in the five stages

671
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,280
of grief than the people who actually went out there

672
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,280
and voted.

673
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,280
And I don't wish negative feelings on anybody out there

674
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,360
who didn't get what they want.

675
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,800
But if you didn't try for something,

676
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,800
you've put yourself in your own hell.

677
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,480
And I don't think that's worth it.

678
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,880
And I'm so sorry that you're in that situation.

679
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,200
But if you didn't vote and somehow everything

680
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,040
is still going well for you, please get in the comments

681
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,880
and let me know what your life is like right now.

682
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320
Tell me why you didn't vote and why you're still happy

683
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,160
with this.

684
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,520
There's gotta be somebody out there.

685
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,560
You know, this country is made out of like

686
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,920
thousands of circles and one giant Venn diagram.

687
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,000
There's gotta be somebody who has to overlap.

688
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,880
Especially in our community, right?

689
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,760
With grief and loss in general.

690
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,320
Who would listen to all of this?

691
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,320
Yeah, I'm part of another podcast that we had a very

692
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,400
emotionally charged conversation about a week and a half

693
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,000
after the actual election.

694
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,000
And the guy who we talked to, James J. Speck, heck guy.

695
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,520
We had a good conversation about what do we do next?

696
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,840
There's still people out there who have all the

697
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,840
emotion, this anger and I'm even seeing like whispers

698
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,320
of things out there.

699
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,320
Like people are like dissecting Harris's hosts

700
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,120
after, you know, she lost, including like some

701
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:47,960
of the more recent ones.

702
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,560
I'm like, you know, this is what we're gonna do

703
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:50,400
as a nation.

704
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,800
This is what we should do.

705
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,920
We should despair.

706
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,920
And they're seeing this as like a dog whistle almost

707
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,400
like a call for people to start getting in arms

708
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,640
because we're all going to like,

709
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,200
somehow stop this oncoming presidential event

710
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,520
that's gonna last for four years and do whatever it is

711
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,360
to be the country.

712
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,840
I don't think I've seen anybody really come up in arms

713
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,560
to the point where they want to riot the entire capital.

714
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,600
No, not to that point.

715
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,440
Like definitely not to that point, no.

716
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,040
What I'm seeing is more than the lines of like,

717
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,200
we're all gonna band together as a nation

718
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,560
and we're all going, it like almost cold war-esque

719
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,240
speak, I'll be honest with you.

720
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,080
Yeah, very much.

721
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,400
I don't think that's what Harris is saying.

722
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:34,400
If it does, I'm, you know, it's another historical event.

723
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,800
We get to live through that people,

724
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,520
that kids are gonna read in history books later on.

725
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,360
Right.

726
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:43,160
What do we do now just as normal people

727
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,600
who are just trying to live our lives?

728
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,760
Like, do we just keep our heads down?

729
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,600
Assume the worst.

730
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,480
Assume the worst plan for any amount of panic.

731
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,520
So, we'll say that.

732
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,360
We'll say that that's true.

733
00:26:56,360 --> 00:27:00,080
So, we'll say that, we'll say that that's your preparation

734
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,640
process, just saying, you know.

735
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,680
What would you do to prep?

736
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,320
Go ahead and start packing everything.

737
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,520
And start looking at plans outside of the country mostly.

738
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,760
I'm not sure if you remember, but his stances

739
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,080
on any sort of foreign immigration is pretty horrible,

740
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,160
especially when it comes to everything going through Mexico.

741
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,560
Especially the people who I'm not sure if you remember

742
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,480
specifically, but my wife is from Mexico

743
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,600
and so is the rest of her family.

744
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,960
So, this directly affects us in general.

745
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,280
I'll click somebody who's thought about this,

746
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,680
like as far as the packing and the leaving.

747
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,760
Just in case, you know, because if ICE comes through

748
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,400
and they change like birthright citizenship,

749
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,520
but they also revoke it from the people

750
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,080
who happened to have already gotten it,

751
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,000
well then, half my family's gonna disappear.

752
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,160
So, what do you have the necessary paperwork

753
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,120
to allow you to cross the said border?

754
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,960
That was the situation.

755
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,160
See, that's the thing that we're thinking about.

756
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,080
And I know that most people would be like,

757
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,440
well deportation hasn't really affected you

758
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,080
as a person in general.

759
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,840
Actually it has, it's already affected

760
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,360
either my brother-in-law or even my mother,

761
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:14,960
who was a deported back in 2016, I think.

762
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,320
Yeah, during the first Trump presidency.

763
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,520
Yeah, she lived in Canada.

764
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,120
See, apparently, wasn't a US citizen after that.

765
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,160
Okay, so that's why she's up there.

766
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,440
That answers the question I didn't get a chance to ask

767
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,680
when you brought that up earlier.

768
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,680
So, we're thinking about getting like passport information

769
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,760
and stuff for us, but it's not for like fear

770
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,160
of deportation reasons, it's just, we know that.

771
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,160
I'm just kidding.

772
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,720
Maybe over the next four years, it'd be nice

773
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,520
to spend some time away from this over here

774
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,160
and just go to see what life is at places like.

775
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,840
Honestly, life in other places is kind of nice.

776
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,760
Flew to France not too long ago.

777
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,960
If you stay out of Paris, because Paris kind of sucks,

778
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,560
the rest of France, kind of fucking amazing.

779
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,920
The rest of Europe, kind of amazing.

780
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,120
The healthcare in Canada makes the entire thing worth it.

781
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,160
Honestly, Mexico, same thing.

782
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,000
Well, I hear that.

783
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,440
You only hear about the horrible things in Mexico,

784
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,240
but like straight up healthcare,

785
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,080
your ability to actually make businesses,

786
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,520
the economy in general, better.

787
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,480
The amount of time that I've spent out of the country

788
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,680
was all like Navy related.

789
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,720
And so, there are some places that I think

790
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,000
I would like to revisit as a civilian

791
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,600
and not necessarily with the entire idea

792
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,120
that I have to go into a ship later

793
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,960
to actually experience what life is like in other places.

794
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,240
But I also know that shit, we have a hard time

795
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,520
even like saving up for our house,

796
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,760
just the way that life is right now.

797
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,160
And so like the thought of not only just trying to get

798
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,920
a nicer place to live in a country that I am,

799
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,360
but the idea of going to another country

800
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,880
and trying to start a whole new life.

801
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,680
I like the idea, but it scares the hell out of me

802
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,800
because of the unknown, I guess.

803
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,640
Also.

804
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,480
Yeah.

805
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,440
And you know, humans don't, they don't like two things.

806
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,000
They don't like the unknown and they don't like change.

807
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,760
So, which is why death is such a fucking joke

808
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,880
to the human race in general,

809
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,040
because you get yeeted into the unknown

810
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,960
and it's such a inevitable state of change

811
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,040
that we're all gonna have to go through.

812
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,320
And so, I don't know, I'm not saying that moving

813
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,200
to another country reminds me of death,

814
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,200
but it definitely gives me the warm and crawly sensation

815
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,200
of anxiety.

816
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,560
What I hope for you and your family is that

817
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,080
it isn't going to be like that.

818
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,240
Like a jarring experience.

819
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,080
Yeah.

820
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,720
Yeah, we already have a place in.

821
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,040
It actually turns out well.

822
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,880
For us.

823
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,160
Yeah, Claudia already has her family living in Mexico,

824
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,600
like an entire portion, we have a house.

825
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Yeah.

826
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,960
Yeah, so it's, it would just be an easy transition,

827
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,960
but not for everybody, you know?

828
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,400
Everybody doesn't get the exact same thing.

829
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,640
No.

830
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,360
However, if you're like worried about like,

831
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,160
oh, well, are they gonna really understand me

832
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,160
in another location, Canada is just America to point out.

833
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,840
They have Burger Kings and McDonald's and Walmart.

834
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,840
So that's the indication of standard of living right there.

835
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,840
Fast food Walmart said, we're home, baby.

836
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,160
It's the ex save.

837
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,080
Except when you go over to the doctor,

838
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,680
you won't be in debt for the rest of your life.

839
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,720
So that's crazy.

840
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,560
There's that.

841
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,360
There are aspects of my health right now,

842
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,600
which are on hold because of.

843
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,680
It's the penis enlargement.

844
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,520
That's it.

845
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,360
That's it.

846
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,280
I tried, I tried taping two sticks to it

847
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,560
and just stretching it every day.

848
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,120
In terms of, I just got splinters.

849
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,280
I went over to the doctors and they ended up just like,

850
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,600
removing some of it somehow.

851
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,440
Wow.

852
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,600
I was like, hey, can you make this bigger?

853
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,600
They were like, nope.

854
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,200
It only goes back.

855
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,040
Yeah.

856
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,400
We live in Georgia.

857
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,960
Don't say that.

858
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,880
Don't know.

859
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,720
The country.

860
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,560
We live in the country of Georgia.

861
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,400
Georgia.

862
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,600
Oh, it's good.

863
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,920
No, thanks.

864
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,080
They'll never know.

865
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,720
They'll never fucking know.

866
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,560
You're gonna have to edit this

867
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,880
because I'm gonna post your.

868
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,720
That's like, I'll just say that.

869
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,200
That's like.

870
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,680
Well, no, anybody, I'll be honest with you.

871
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,720
If anybody, if you only know me from this podcast,

872
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,200
you just now learned this,

873
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,040
but however, if you know anything else that I do,

874
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,240
I tag Georgia and Conn, Georgia all the time.

875
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,840
So, but you don't know what street.

876
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,600
You don't know what street.

877
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,240
And if you would like the street, it is currently one-oh.

878
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,240
Stop it.

879
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,600
All right, no.

880
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,200
So what they're doing is they're pushing out

881
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,880
the marketplace, the regular Obama marketplace,

882
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,120
and they're supplementing it with their own.

883
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,320
They are literally rejecting reality

884
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,080
and supplementing it with their own.

885
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,720
And the process of them pushing it out made

886
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,040
having insurance through the marketplace

887
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,160
hardly expensive.

888
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,000
I have something where my work helps out.

889
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,600
I kick back money for any medical expense that we have.

890
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,320
I drained that expense dry

891
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,840
and still owe more on the insurance.

892
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,280
That's how much we were getting, you know,

893
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,600
taken for a ride.

894
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,440
It's been rough.

895
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,960
So we had to stop that.

896
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,760
Now I have nothing going to the hospital or doctor.

897
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,880
It's just 100% out of my pocket.

898
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,960
And so we don't have that.

899
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,120
So there's just some things that as soon as we get

900
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,160
whatever insurance we can get, I'm gonna take care of.

901
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,120
It's gonna be great.

902
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,560
I might pack on some more pounds.

903
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,160
Who knows what's gonna happen in my life?

904
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,800
But I also don't know.

905
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,000
It's kind of up in the air what's gonna happen

906
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,600
with healthcare in general now.

907
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,560
And so there's another sense of like anxiety and worry.

908
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,000
I'm doing a lot of, I guess this is what's happening here.

909
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,840
I'm doing a lot of pre-greed.

910
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,160
I mean, anxiety, if anybody saw the new inside out movie,

911
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,600
which was fun, it was really good.

912
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,760
It showed one of the best examples

913
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,720
of an on-screen panic attack and it was a Disney cartoon.

914
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,120
Yeah, it showed kids as like,

915
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,240
hey, you may be feeling this and this is why.

916
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:13,440
And anyway, I love the movie.

917
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,280
I'll watch it again.

918
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,840
Okay, I guess I actually have to watch this.

919
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,240
Because I know I watched the first one

920
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:20,160
and I know my kids have watched the second one.

921
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,040
It's on Disney Plus, if you haven't watched it before.

922
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,320
It is, very easy to watch.

923
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,800
Yeah.

924
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,160
You just have to sell your soul to Disney.

925
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,800
Yeah, you just pay in the mouse.

926
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,920
But yeah, I haven't watched it.

927
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,880
So you remind me, especially when you were talking about

928
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,520
the symptoms that you were going through,

929
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,920
there was no grief, there was only anger.

930
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,240
You just remind me a little angry fire.

931
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:43,520
That's why I try to channel every single day of my life.

932
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,800
A little bit of anger.

933
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,720
So the new emotion that they show in there.

934
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:48,640
I'm just like a mixture of joy and anger.

935
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,480
I could see that.

936
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,320
Yeah, definitely.

937
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,120
I feel like an Apollo or Amy, Apollo.

938
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,960
Amy, Apollo.

939
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,800
Amy, Apollo?

940
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,640
Apollo, Apollo?

941
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,480
Apollo.

942
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,320
I think it's Apollo.

943
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,160
Like Amy.

944
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,000
PoE, yeah.

945
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,840
Amy's amazing.

946
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,800
Amy, if you're out there,

947
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,200
I used to give a view the other day on Blue Sky.

948
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,640
Go to Blue Sky.

949
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,120
Amy, you are my celebrity crush.

950
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,800
Would you like to kiss me on the lips?

951
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,880
On those lips, right there.

952
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,240
Right.

953
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:16,280
So anxiety in that movie sums it up perfectly

954
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,480
what that emotion is.

955
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,600
They are not, fear keeps you safe from the things

956
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,840
that are actually happening.

957
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,040
Anxiety tries to keep you safe from the things

958
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,920
that haven't happened yet, that they're guessing about,

959
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,440
that it's trying to read the future.

960
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,080
And I've had plenty of talks with my therapist about this.

961
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,600
It's better than it used to be.

962
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,040
I used to just let anxiety just go, oh man,

963
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,800
this is what it's like to be afraid of everything.

964
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,120
So it's less fear of the future

965
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,400
and just fear of the unknown in the future.

966
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,240
So I'm not gonna guess what's gonna happen in the future,

967
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,600
but the void that's left of me not thinking about it

968
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,880
is just sitting there and going, hey, worry.

969
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,600
And I'm like, I don't wanna do that.

970
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,800
Humans are very good at adapting to the climate

971
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,200
that they currently are in.

972
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,280
So if you are in a constant state of panic,

973
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,600
you're not doing that correctly.

974
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,600
And well, here's the thing,

975
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,400
I'm really good at distracting myself.

976
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,400
Like Xbox Game Pass, giving me new games just constantly.

977
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,760
Are they good? Who cares?

978
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,800
But they distract me.

979
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,920
Yeah, exactly.

980
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,200
I've been playing, I told myself,

981
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,120
I was going to put this on this podcast.

982
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,200
I have been playing this game called Gossip Harbor

983
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,200
on my phone.

984
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,040
Neat.

985
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,720
It's a matching game, but in the center of it,

986
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,120
there's this really messy individual

987
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,800
who starts off the game getting divorced,

988
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,320
falling in love with a fisherman.

989
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,640
But in the meantime,

990
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,640
still thinking about taking back her husband.

991
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,600
And in the meantime, like she's trying to take care.

992
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,440
Ooh.

993
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,280
It's-

994
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,120
That's drama.

995
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:50,960
I like that.

996
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,440
It still has so much like guilt-free drama,

997
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,280
but at least it's a little cartoon character.

998
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,520
This isn't like an ad-red, right?

999
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,440
This isn't an ad-red?

1000
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,280
No.

1001
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,120
Oh, okay.

1002
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,160
So you just genuinely enjoyed this?

1003
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,000
I genuinely enjoyed this game.

1004
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,840
Y'all should go play that.

1005
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,680
Okay.

1006
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,000
She's so messy,

1007
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,440
and everything around her life is messy,

1008
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,440
but in the meantime,

1009
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,720
I get to match up these little things in her kitchen

1010
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,840
and create like sandwiches and donuts and shit.

1011
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Oh, let's see.

1012
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,680
It's great.

1013
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Anyway, so I can distract myself very easily.

1014
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,040
Okay.

1015
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,440
Between that and like having forcing myself,

1016
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,600
I don't know, it was a force.

1017
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,840
It was a force at the beginning of last year.

1018
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,320
It's less so now.

1019
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Forcing myself to go out and talk to people

1020
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,000
who I've made friends with, you, Edith.

1021
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,000
Who, friends?

1022
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,280
Ladies and gentlemen, here we are.

1023
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,120
It's live.

1024
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,940
I have made a friend.

1025
00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:39,780
Just put it out there.

1026
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:40,960
Live on camera.

1027
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,320
Edith Rosenblatt, who I do my other podcasts with.

1028
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,080
Todd A. Davis, who I'm doing a live.

1029
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,240
This is gonna be my second live D&D event

1030
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:51,040
at the end of this week.

1031
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,400
You're doing live D&D events?

1032
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,240
Yeah.

1033
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:54,060
Oh, hell yeah.

1034
00:37:54,060 --> 00:37:54,900
Where is that?

1035
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:56,320
It's in Greer, South Carolina.

1036
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,800
If you guys wanna go check it out, the third.

1037
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,280
Oh, I thought you meant like on live.

1038
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,120
I didn't realize that.

1039
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,960
No, no, no.

1040
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,800
Like in person.

1041
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,640
Like I'm live.

1042
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:05,480
I have to actually drive?

1043
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,320
I am on stage.

1044
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,840
Well, there's a place that is streamed,

1045
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,440
but we're trying to push the live tickets first.

1046
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,280
You know what I'm saying?

1047
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,120
Yeah, no, that makes sense.

1048
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:11,960
So push it.

1049
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,800
Go.

1050
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,560
But yeah, it's the third event

1051
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,200
maybe happening shortly after this episode, I believe,

1052
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,400
because this is coming out in January.

1053
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,760
And he wants to do it every month.

1054
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,880
The second one we just did in December.

1055
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,120
It's comedians and drag performers on stage.

1056
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,640
Five people on a table,

1057
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,960
and then the sixth person being the DM,

1058
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,840
which is Todd Davis.

1059
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,760
Anyway, he is another great friend that I've made.

1060
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,200
He's the one that got me into writing my book.

1061
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,040
Sweet.

1062
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,640
Yeah, so that has been a, I think a healthy distraction.

1063
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,600
Right.

1064
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,240
So that has helped with these feelings that I have.

1065
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:52,240
Cause I don't talk politics with these people.

1066
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:55,800
I'm sure they have their own reasons for voting

1067
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,720
for whatever they did.

1068
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:57,840
Did we all vote blue?

1069
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,280
I think we did.

1070
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,840
But each one, we're living in such different examples

1071
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,800
on life, like, you know, whether or not we own a house,

1072
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,320
what our jobs look like, what we think security means

1073
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,080
for us in the future that we all voted for a different way

1074
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,120
that I don't think either one of us

1075
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,000
have gotten to a point where we go.

1076
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,520
Okay, so let's talk about who did you vote for?

1077
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,720
And having friends that don't necessarily pull you

1078
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:27,080
into those conversations the moment you walk into the house

1079
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,920
is invaluable.

1080
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,320
I've had a couple of friends like that.

1081
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,160
And I'm not talking to those friends right now.

1082
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,680
I personally like having those sort of friends

1083
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,240
that like will ask the hard questions.

1084
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:38,080
Immediately?

1085
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,320
Immediately when you walk through the door.

1086
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,440
Like you're kicking your shoes off

1087
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,960
and they're like, all right, fuck her, who'd you vote for?

1088
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,800
Exactly.

1089
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,640
Wow.

1090
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,840
I mean, if you say it like that, yes, 100%.

1091
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,680
Well, that's true.

1092
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,600
I guess there is a certain camaraderie with that.

1093
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,400
Right? It's a little bit of like, okay,

1094
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,800
maybe we didn't vote for the same person,

1095
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,320
but we hate everyone together.

1096
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,160
Right.

1097
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,480
So that's nice.

1098
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,880
Fair enough. Okay.

1099
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,240
But like, you only need a couple of those sort of friends,

1100
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:02,080
right?

1101
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,120
Maybe just one, you know, lifetime.

1102
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,000
But not every friend that you have.

1103
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,640
Because at that point, I feel like for somebody who

1104
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,560
likes giving energy to friends, and especially-

1105
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,560
I would get more than energy to friends.

1106
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:20,000
And I get comfortable enough talking to people doesn't

1107
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,320
put that away.

1108
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,160
Damn it.

1109
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,680
My bad guys.

1110
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,120
I have a derailed situation.

1111
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:29,960
Yeah.

1112
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,120
I promise of a good time.

1113
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,680
And the next thing I know, I've become a jabbering idiot.

1114
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,920
Oopsy poopsies.

1115
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,440
From somebody who likes to give energy to people

1116
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,080
once they get comfortable with them, like party events,

1117
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,040
like that's a whole different giving energy.

1118
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,520
In fact, my social battery drains a whole lot quicker.

1119
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,360
Oh, okay.

1120
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,320
And this, if all of my friends were like the, you know,

1121
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,400
shoes off, you know, hey fucker, who'd you vote for,

1122
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,040
type person, I feel like I wouldn't have as much energy

1123
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,360
to give to other people.

1124
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,200
Right.

1125
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,320
I'd have to be like, this is the person I'm gonna see

1126
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,160
that day.

1127
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,640
They like, if you're one of those people who have like two

1128
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,960
thanksgivings to go to, they would be the last persons

1129
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,040
thanksgiving I'd go to.

1130
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,080
Because I know that's the main event.

1131
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,400
That's the most energy that I gotta put out.

1132
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,280
But, you know, that's how my energy runs.

1133
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,120
Okay.

1134
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:18,960
Yeah.

1135
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,800
Yeah.

1136
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:20,920
What about you?

1137
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,760
Say you're in this situation, you have two thanksgivings.

1138
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,120
You have the one thanksgiving where everybody's just like,

1139
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,640
you know, we're all here to have a good time, eat food,

1140
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,800
talk about nothing.

1141
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,360
And then you have, you know, shoes off, hey fucker,

1142
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,480
which one are you going for first?

1143
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,480
I'm going to be, hey, shoes off, hey fucker, 100%.

1144
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,360
Yeah.

1145
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,640
Because I feed off of drama.

1146
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,960
That's all I do.

1147
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,160
I see your eyes light up when I mentioned what the hell my

1148
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,000
game is about.

1149
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,840
It's like, oh, that's a drama.

1150
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:46,680
Wait a second.

1151
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,520
That's drama.

1152
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,360
Yes.

1153
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,200
I need it.

1154
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:54,920
I'm usually the one that stirs the pot at the family

1155
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,720
gatherings right before I leave.

1156
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:57,720
Fair enough.

1157
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:03,600
Well, getting to know you and also like the type of energy

1158
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,280
that you've inherited from like your father, you know,

1159
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,200
I could see that.

1160
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,040
Yeah.

1161
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,320
Somebody who does like to go in there and stir the shit up

1162
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,160
a little bit.

1163
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,440
I walk into Thanksgiving.

1164
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,120
It's all nice and wonderful and stuff.

1165
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,680
But as I'm leaving, already got the kids in the car grabbing

1166
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,320
my last little bits of stuff, I'll say something dumb like,

1167
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,840
hey, don't all liberals fucking suck and then I'll close

1168
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,680
the door.

1169
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,760
Just to hear all of them start yelling about it.

1170
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,360
A little verbal hand grade.

1171
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,200
Yeah.

1172
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,280
It's like, oh, isn't the political climate pretty bad?

1173
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,280
Gosh, all these transgender, am I right?

1174
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Oh my God.

1175
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:38,960
Am I a fucking mess?

1176
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,320
Just throw that in there.

1177
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,200
Like you slip in a flashbang in traffic.

1178
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,200
Holy shit.

1179
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,880
That's great.

1180
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,880
What a metaphor.

1181
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,800
What a fucking metaphor.

1182
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,160
All right.

1183
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,720
I have no idea how long we've been going.

1184
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,360
But I feel like I feel like we got out.

1185
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,240
We're at a good halfway point.

1186
00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:59,720
Halfway point, you think?

1187
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:02,280
We've got other things we've got to do today, my guy.

1188
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,480
How long has this been?

1189
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,080
I have no clue.

1190
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,320
Say what?

1191
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,040
Let's take a look.

1192
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,640
Because like.

1193
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,000
God, do I know my tail time or what?

1194
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,400
That's crazy.

1195
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,240
That's crazy.

1196
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:15,320
Do we want to do the sign off and stuff like that?

1197
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:15,920
Yeah.

1198
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:16,760
We'll just do that.

1199
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,840
I won't scream as the microphone does not.

1200
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:19,120
That's good.

1201
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:19,320
Yeah.

1202
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,440
Blue hasn't come back, by the way, since you screamed.

1203
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,800
You just have such a good time sitting in this ring light

1204
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,160
right here and then same screaming.

1205
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,040
Took the fuck off.

1206
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,440
It was good to actually talk about those emotions

1207
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,040
with somebody.

1208
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,440
And if you haven't had a chance to do that yet,

1209
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,760
if you're still holding on to fear

1210
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,840
or if you're holding on to the grief that you may feel

1211
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,680
for something that you feel that got lost,

1212
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,280
there's two things I want to say to that.

1213
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,800
One, you can't keep holding on to things that are lost.

1214
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,200
You can remember them.

1215
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,880
You can talk about them with people,

1216
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,560
but holding onto it is only going to cause you more sorrow.

1217
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,920
I recommend letting go by talking either

1218
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,000
with a good friend, a therapist, if you have it,

1219
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,560
or a family member who understands you,

1220
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,480
who luckily I married into a family that actually we,

1221
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,040
I know that coming this Christmas,

1222
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,080
there's only going to be one person we're going to worry

1223
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,920
about that's going to really bring the verbal hand grenade

1224
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,120
like you would do.

1225
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,280
Now, I personally would go the opposite route.

1226
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,040
Hold on to that sorrow as much as possible.

1227
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,720
Turn it into anger and use it against the people around you

1228
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,440
at all times.

1229
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,320
That just goes to show the difference

1230
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,760
between an inspiring Buddhist and a combative angry man who

1231
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,040
wants to see the world burn as he leaves it behind

1232
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,880
and goes to Mexico.

1233
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,560
Did I get that right?

1234
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,360
You know, that's the plan.

1235
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,680
The plan's changed.

1236
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,640
I might not go to Mexico.

1237
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,160
I'd be going to your house to your Thanksgiving,

1238
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,680
and I'm going to drop verbal hand grenades

1239
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,680
on your conversation.

1240
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,960
Fucking app.

1241
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,160
But seriously, I've said it before in almost everything

1242
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,520
that I've ever been in is anxiety is smaller when it comes

1243
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,240
out of your chest.

1244
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,240
Talk to it about somebody.

1245
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:58,320
Even if you think that it's going to be a fight, fuck it.

1246
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,160
Sometimes fights are also good.

1247
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,280
Don't get lost in it.

1248
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,640
We're just going to keep moving forward,

1249
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,400
and I think that's really the best advice.

1250
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,200
Keep moving forward.

1251
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,360
Talk out your anxieties.

1252
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Do you have any last words you want to give to the people?

1253
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,080
Or turn it into comedy and never let it go.

1254
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,600
Oh, yeah.

1255
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,760
And instead, make it up everybody else's problem.

1256
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,560
Well, they do say that comics pretty much thrive off

1257
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,000
the pain in which they dwell.

1258
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,280
Thank you so much for coming to join in this.

1259
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,320
I want to start leaving off all my podcasts

1260
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,000
by saying, please, if there's anything that you want to add,

1261
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,320
if there's anything that you agree with,

1262
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,000
if there's any suggestions that you would want to talk about,

1263
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,120
or hear us, not necessarily us, but whoever

1264
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,600
guessed that I happen to have.

1265
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,360
And he does have a lot of really awesome guests.

1266
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:38,860
I try.

1267
00:45:38,860 --> 00:45:40,920
You should definitely go back and watch all of the other

1268
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,920
It's Your Loss.

1269
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,760
It was a great year.

1270
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,240
It really was.

1271
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:47,360
Feel free to put it in the comments below.

1272
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,240
Rate, subscribe, do whatever you do.

1273
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:50,840
Yeah, if you haven't hit that subscribe button,

1274
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:51,760
absolutely do that.

1275
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,800
Hit the like button so that way more people will see our

1276
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,800
ugly podcast.

1277
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,160
This is a monthly podcast, so it's not like I'm reminding you

1278
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:58,800
every week.

1279
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,720
It's the thing that you want to get that ding

1280
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:02,360
in every month.

1281
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,040
And you know what?

1282
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:03,680
Hot, fresh, new.

1283
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,880
It makes us feel better if you hit that subscribe button.

1284
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,080
But also, since we're only doing this once a month, well,

1285
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,120
wait, he's only doing this once a month,

1286
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,120
you're not going to get it in your subscriber box all the time.

1287
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,400
Yeah, we're going to have to cut because we'll have to think,

1288
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,720
not cut, but I'm going to think about how the hell I normally

1289
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:19,000
sign these things off.

1290
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,720
OK, I can just go on with a little bit.

1291
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:26,520
Timmy, have you ever seen a grown man naked?

1292
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,880
The joy to have you on this podcast.

1293
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,720
You bring a little chaos.

1294
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:30,400
It's great.

1295
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,560
Thoughts on cheese.

1296
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,120
Often cheese.

1297
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,280
Why is it funny?

1298
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,520
Why it's funny?

1299
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:42,560
Because sometimes when you eat too much, you fart,

1300
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,600
but you can't poop.

1301
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,840
And if you happen to have friends that are Mexicans,

1302
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,560
go ahead and say your goodbyes.

1303
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,960
Holy shit.

1304
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,760
And if you happen to miss the next episode,

1305
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,240
which will be the actual season 2 opener,

1306
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,920
well, it's still going to be your loss.

1307
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,000
Thank you so much for joining.

1308
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,440
And I will talk to you guys later.

1309
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,760
Ah!

1310
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,760
Bye-bye.

1311
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,760
Bye.

1312
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,760
Bye.

1313
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,760
Bye.

1314
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,760
Bye.

1315
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,760
Bye.

1316
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,760
Bye.

1317
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,760
Bye.

1318
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:31,760
Bye.