WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.059 If you do something outside of the will of God, 00:00:04.660 --> 00:00:07.280 that is the real FOMO, because you will never 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:10.339 experience or you'll always wonder what is it 00:00:10.339 --> 00:00:13.199 that God had for me that year? Because, you know, 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:14.720 clearly you're not going to experience the will 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:17.219 of God if you're stepping outside of it. So and 00:00:17.219 --> 00:00:19.920 what makes you think that your idea for your 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:23.719 life is better than what he had for you or that 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:26.109 that little opportunity that you thought was 00:00:26.109 --> 00:00:28.309 so great is better than the opportunity that 00:00:28.309 --> 00:00:31.370 he had planned for that time in your life. So 00:00:31.370 --> 00:00:34.649 as I got older and I started to see the outcomes 00:00:34.649 --> 00:00:36.450 of some of these, what I thought were small, 00:00:36.689 --> 00:00:40.789 bad decisions, I realized, wow, I was saved and 00:00:40.789 --> 00:00:42.950 I trust God so much more with my life and there's 00:00:42.950 --> 00:00:45.329 no bitterness when I think an opportunity is 00:00:45.329 --> 00:00:49.429 getting passed up because I know that I'd much 00:00:49.429 --> 00:00:51.649 rather have God's plan for my life than this 00:00:51.649 --> 00:00:57.030 little compromise. Hey there, welcome to the 00:00:57.030 --> 00:00:59.909 God's Goodness podcast. We are your host, Josh 00:00:59.909 --> 00:01:02.090 and Shelly Hankins, and we're here to share real 00:01:02.090 --> 00:01:05.310 stories of God's power, stories of hope, healing, 00:01:05.450 --> 00:01:07.590 and miracles that will strengthen your faith. 00:01:08.230 --> 00:01:10.069 No matter what you're walking through, we want 00:01:10.069 --> 00:01:12.430 to remind you that God is good and he's still 00:01:12.430 --> 00:01:20.069 moving today. Let's dive in. Today's guest is 00:01:20.069 --> 00:01:22.349 someone the Holy Spirit clearly put on my heart, 00:01:22.349 --> 00:01:24.709 and when he does that, I know it's for a reason. 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:28.140 Lisa Lee Wolt started in Hollywood, acting in 00:01:28.140 --> 00:01:30.200 hit shows like Malcolm in the Middle and The 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.000 Amanda Show, working with stars like Adam Sandler 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.980 and Shaq. But what God's done with her life since 00:01:35.980 --> 00:01:39.239 then? It's even more powerful. She's gone from 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:42.459 red carpets to rescue work, ministering to at 00:01:42.459 --> 00:01:44.900 -risk youth, women coming out of trafficking, 00:01:45.219 --> 00:01:47.819 and nations desperate for hope. She's preached 00:01:47.819 --> 00:01:50.840 on military bases, in schools, and even at the 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:53.760 United Nations. And with a bachelor's in theology 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:56.579 from Eternity Bible College, she carries both 00:01:56.579 --> 00:01:59.959 fire and foundation in everything she does. Lisa, 00:01:59.980 --> 00:02:02.719 I'm so honored you're here. I believe God has 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:05.659 a word for someone listening today. Would you 00:02:05.659 --> 00:02:09.639 start us off with prayer? Absolutely. Lord God, 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:12.759 I just thank you so much for everybody that is 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:14.599 listening to this podcast today. I thank you 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:16.680 that you are pointing out to their hearts that 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:19.560 they are seen, that they are heard, that they 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:22.879 are not a number. that they are not missing out 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:25.080 and that you have good things for their lives. 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.400 God, I thank you that your Holy Spirit is just 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.539 impressing this on the hearts of everybody listening 00:02:29.539 --> 00:02:32.360 right now. I thank you that you would speak through 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:35.340 us today and that you would bring a new word 00:02:35.340 --> 00:02:39.319 to all the listeners. In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. 00:02:39.990 --> 00:02:42.949 Lisa, I know the Holy Spirit prompted this conversation, 00:02:43.050 --> 00:02:45.909 and I've learned that when He moves, it's always 00:02:45.909 --> 00:02:48.530 for a reason. So what has He been stirring in 00:02:48.530 --> 00:02:51.229 your spirit lately that you feel led to share 00:02:51.229 --> 00:02:59.270 with us today? Two years ago now, I spent about 00:02:59.270 --> 00:03:02.849 almost a year, not bedridden in the sense that 00:03:02.849 --> 00:03:05.689 I couldn't get up at all, but I had just extreme 00:03:05.689 --> 00:03:07.810 adrenal fatigue to where I just couldn't function. 00:03:07.889 --> 00:03:11.129 I couldn't do anything besides sleep. And during 00:03:11.129 --> 00:03:14.009 that time, you just feel like you're praying 00:03:14.009 --> 00:03:16.250 all the time and like God's not hearing you. 00:03:16.310 --> 00:03:18.530 Why aren't you getting healed? What's going on? 00:03:18.550 --> 00:03:21.650 And you can feel very overlooked. I just noticed 00:03:21.650 --> 00:03:24.310 that so much around me even over the last couple 00:03:24.310 --> 00:03:27.370 weeks of just people feeling like they're being 00:03:27.370 --> 00:03:30.650 treated like a number like whether it's with 00:03:30.650 --> 00:03:33.669 job opportunities of people getting let go for 00:03:33.669 --> 00:03:36.750 no reason or with relationships where they feel 00:03:36.750 --> 00:03:39.370 like you know the person was actually seeing 00:03:39.370 --> 00:03:41.770 five other people and they meant nothing and 00:03:41.770 --> 00:03:44.949 or even in my past job opportunities with auditions 00:03:44.949 --> 00:03:47.030 you'd show up and you'd see 50 girls that look 00:03:47.030 --> 00:03:50.310 just like you and it's just this this overarching 00:03:50.310 --> 00:03:53.349 feeling that the world presents a case that we 00:03:53.349 --> 00:03:56.229 are just a number. We don't mean anything, that 00:03:56.229 --> 00:03:58.530 we're not valuable. And the thing that God has 00:03:58.530 --> 00:04:01.349 been placing on my heart is that He knows every 00:04:01.349 --> 00:04:05.969 hair on our heads, that we are the most valuable 00:04:05.969 --> 00:04:08.969 thing to Him that we were worth dying for. And 00:04:08.969 --> 00:04:11.449 so as we talk through today, I want everybody 00:04:11.449 --> 00:04:12.830 listening to just kind of keep that in the back 00:04:12.830 --> 00:04:15.370 of their head, that that is the main takeaway 00:04:15.370 --> 00:04:17.990 I want you to get today, is that you are not 00:04:17.990 --> 00:04:21.120 nothing. You have god has a plan for your life 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:24.879 and he sees you that's a good word right there 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:31.120 so you've had quite the journey so you've been 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.100 as an actress with lots of people around you 00:04:34.100 --> 00:04:35.920 take us through your journey like how did you 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.879 get to know god and like how did he show up in 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:41.160 your life throughout those years because you're 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.259 in california it's another world out there from 00:04:43.259 --> 00:04:47.360 the east it is interesting yes it is So I did 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:49.040 grow up in the church. My parents are very strong 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:51.319 believers and demonstrated an amazing faith. 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:55.240 But as just like anybody else, when I was a kid, 00:04:55.379 --> 00:04:58.720 you know, it's you don't really get it. It's 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:00.600 kind of praying to walls. It's like, oh, we do 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.300 this because mom does this and I go to church 00:05:03.300 --> 00:05:05.360 because dad goes to church. But then I ended 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:07.500 up when I was about 10, it happened for me pretty 00:05:07.500 --> 00:05:11.120 young. I went to Hume Lake Christian camp. And 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.680 I remember realizing that there was still something 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.730 different. about my parents' faith versus mine, 00:05:17.329 --> 00:05:19.750 and I remember getting on my knees and saying, 00:05:20.110 --> 00:05:23.610 God, I don't know what that difference is, and 00:05:23.610 --> 00:05:26.589 I don't know what I'm missing here, but I will 00:05:26.589 --> 00:05:29.350 do whatever you tell me. I just want to know 00:05:29.350 --> 00:05:32.689 more, and I will follow you. And it wasn't instant. 00:05:32.829 --> 00:05:34.509 It wasn't like the next day. Oh, I like my eyes 00:05:34.509 --> 00:05:36.389 were open. It was over the course of the next 00:05:36.389 --> 00:05:39.129 two weeks where my conscience kicked in for the 00:05:39.129 --> 00:05:41.050 first time. Because as a kid, I was actually 00:05:41.050 --> 00:05:44.029 a little like liar, those types of things. And 00:05:44.029 --> 00:05:46.209 I remember telling a lie right like a couple 00:05:46.209 --> 00:05:49.069 of days after I'm like, oh, I don't that doesn't 00:05:49.069 --> 00:05:51.410 feel good. And I've never I had never had that 00:05:51.410 --> 00:05:54.069 sensation before of having a conscience of like, 00:05:54.209 --> 00:05:56.889 oh, like, I started to hear the Holy Spirit talking 00:05:56.889 --> 00:05:59.639 to me. I was like, OK, that's interesting. How 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:01.300 long did it take you to realize that was the 00:06:01.300 --> 00:06:03.699 Holy Spirit speaking to you and your spirit? 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.240 A couple of weeks. It was pretty quick. Like, 00:06:06.300 --> 00:06:08.819 I don't know that I had the term on it that that 00:06:08.819 --> 00:06:11.600 was the Holy Spirit. I just knew that that wasn't 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:17.000 my voice. You know. Yeah. OK. And so over the 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:18.939 course of, like I said, a couple of weeks, it 00:06:18.939 --> 00:06:22.180 started to turn into, OK, now when I pray, I 00:06:22.180 --> 00:06:24.970 actually feel like I'm talking to a person. And 00:06:24.970 --> 00:06:28.610 when I am living my life, I'm experiencing something 00:06:28.610 --> 00:06:32.829 else with me. And so about probably a year after, 00:06:32.850 --> 00:06:34.230 I don't know, it's pretty, pretty soon after 00:06:34.230 --> 00:06:37.490 that, I got very enthralled with learning as 00:06:37.490 --> 00:06:39.470 much as I could. I started reading books, you 00:06:39.470 --> 00:06:41.689 know, I started with the famous ones like Case 00:06:41.689 --> 00:06:43.569 for Christ, Evidence that Demands a Verdict, 00:06:43.870 --> 00:06:47.769 and really had a passion pretty young of wanting 00:06:47.769 --> 00:06:51.350 other people to know God because to me it was 00:06:51.350 --> 00:06:54.509 such an amazing... experience and it was to me 00:06:54.509 --> 00:06:57.649 like the most important thing in life and even 00:06:57.649 --> 00:07:00.189 as a kid it registered to me that if there's 00:07:00.189 --> 00:07:03.170 a God that's gonna radically change how I live 00:07:03.170 --> 00:07:05.149 my life because if it just ends at the end of 00:07:05.149 --> 00:07:07.310 this that's gonna be I'm gonna make completely 00:07:07.310 --> 00:07:09.370 different decisions than if at the end of this 00:07:09.370 --> 00:07:12.170 I'm going to stand before God and give an account 00:07:12.170 --> 00:07:14.730 for my life Mm -hmm. So that was the basics and 00:07:14.730 --> 00:07:17.069 then obviously throughout life you have different 00:07:17.069 --> 00:07:20.370 ebbs and flows of the relationship getting stronger 00:07:20.370 --> 00:07:22.949 and the end the relationship getting tested But 00:07:22.949 --> 00:07:25.149 that was the introduction to when I first met 00:07:25.149 --> 00:07:31.029 him Wow, so when you were in Hollywood and As 00:07:31.029 --> 00:07:34.430 a Christian since you were saved at 10 Did you 00:07:34.430 --> 00:07:36.329 notice that there was like a shift of people 00:07:36.329 --> 00:07:39.189 like a certain set of people that didn't follow 00:07:39.189 --> 00:07:43.819 God that were? Don't want to say influenced but 00:07:43.819 --> 00:07:46.819 but influenced by other entities. Like did you 00:07:46.819 --> 00:07:50.180 could you send something? As a younger kid, I 00:07:50.180 --> 00:07:52.759 didn't necessarily sense the entity portion, 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:56.759 but I sensed the The difference I should say 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:58.800 I sense the lack of the Holy Spirit So it wasn't 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:00.079 so much I'm like, oh that guy's demon possessed 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:02.680 but like he does not have the Holy Spirit and 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:04.959 And yeah, I didn't touch on that part yet So 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:07.019 around 10 is also when I started acting and I 00:08:07.019 --> 00:08:09.850 got my first show on Malcolm in the middle and 00:08:09.850 --> 00:08:13.509 we decided to move from Fresno up to Thousand 00:08:13.509 --> 00:08:16.810 Oaks, which is close to LA. And so my life became 00:08:16.810 --> 00:08:19.649 auditions and dancing and singing and kind of 00:08:19.649 --> 00:08:22.970 being in that world. And it was difficult in 00:08:22.970 --> 00:08:27.829 some regards to that. Today, I love the church. 00:08:28.230 --> 00:08:31.050 I see things much more clearly, but I definitely 00:08:31.050 --> 00:08:34.570 at certain times was very judged because, you 00:08:34.570 --> 00:08:36.590 know, there's a lot of people that think, oh, 00:08:36.590 --> 00:08:39.149 if you even Like you shouldn't even be listening 00:08:39.149 --> 00:08:41.669 to music let alone participating in it, you know 00:08:41.669 --> 00:08:46.269 or like secular music and so to me I had a very 00:08:46.269 --> 00:08:48.129 clear vision from when I was young that I wanted 00:08:48.129 --> 00:08:50.990 to use the arts as a platform for evangelism 00:08:50.990 --> 00:08:55.950 and so I never felt overly influenced by the 00:08:55.950 --> 00:08:58.730 Environments that I was in I felt like I was 00:08:58.730 --> 00:09:02.490 called there to be the influencer and so to me 00:09:02.490 --> 00:09:04.850 that part was difficult because I'm like hey, 00:09:04.870 --> 00:09:07.320 I was on a set yesterday and and this wasn't 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.200 necessarily when I was 10, but closer, you know, 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:11.899 in my early teens, was like, I had so many amazing 00:09:11.899 --> 00:09:13.919 conversations and two people on that set received 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.000 the Lord and those two people were very influential. 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:19.799 And then I'd go to a Bible study and they'd be 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.000 like, why were you there? And I'm like, well, 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.360 you know, Jesus, that was sinners too. We're 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:29.779 not called to just be a sterile. And so, and 00:09:29.779 --> 00:09:32.740 I understood the dangers and needing to keep 00:09:32.740 --> 00:09:36.120 my eyes open. I was there with a mission. and 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:39.440 one that I felt very called to. So for the most 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:44.700 part, it wasn't that big of an issue. The times 00:09:44.700 --> 00:09:46.860 that it did become an issue is when something 00:09:46.860 --> 00:09:48.700 was dangled in front of my face that I really 00:09:48.700 --> 00:09:52.259 wanted. That was just a little bit across the 00:09:52.259 --> 00:09:55.120 line, you know, where it was like, oh, you've 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:57.019 been, you know, you haven't gotten a job in two 00:09:57.019 --> 00:09:59.220 years and you finally got our getting this final 00:09:59.220 --> 00:10:01.919 callback for this big movie with this big star. 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:04.029 It's what you've always wanted. Oh, but there's 00:10:04.029 --> 00:10:07.809 just like this one little like, you know, topless 00:10:07.809 --> 00:10:10.710 scene. You know, you're like, oh, OK, I can't 00:10:10.710 --> 00:10:14.090 do that. And so when it was super over the line 00:10:14.090 --> 00:10:16.870 in that regard, it was a no brainer. But when 00:10:16.870 --> 00:10:19.750 it was like just pushing it a little bit like, 00:10:20.230 --> 00:10:23.210 oh, you know, I can't give a great example, but 00:10:23.210 --> 00:10:24.470 you know, where it's not like completely over 00:10:24.470 --> 00:10:25.809 the line, but definitely would make you feel 00:10:25.809 --> 00:10:27.929 like if Jesus was watching, he would not be OK 00:10:27.929 --> 00:10:31.309 with this. Those were the situations that were 00:10:31.309 --> 00:10:34.309 rough because. Most of the time, I would make 00:10:34.309 --> 00:10:36.850 the right decisions, but it would cause a little 00:10:36.850 --> 00:10:40.169 bit of bitterness because I would think, oh, 00:10:40.169 --> 00:10:43.450 if I just didn't have to live up to these standards 00:10:43.450 --> 00:10:45.610 or these rules, I could go so much further. I 00:10:45.610 --> 00:10:48.830 could do all these things. And then as I got 00:10:48.830 --> 00:10:52.970 older, I realized, wow, that is not the case. 00:10:53.350 --> 00:10:57.269 That you're going further by listening. 100 % 00:10:57.269 --> 00:11:00.470 further by listening. I've mentioned this in 00:11:00.470 --> 00:11:05.600 a recent video that If you do something outside 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:08.940 of the will of God, that is the real FOMO, because 00:11:08.940 --> 00:11:12.120 you will never experience or you'll always wonder, 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:15.100 what is it that God had for me that year? Because, 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:16.820 you know, clearly you're not going to experience 00:11:16.820 --> 00:11:18.179 the will of God if you're stepping outside of 00:11:18.179 --> 00:11:21.840 it. So and what makes you think that your idea 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:24.860 for your life is better than what he had for 00:11:24.860 --> 00:11:28.259 you or that that little Opportunity that you 00:11:28.259 --> 00:11:30.399 thought was so great is better than the opportunity 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:32.899 that he had planned for that time in time in 00:11:32.899 --> 00:11:35.139 your life So it as I got older and I started 00:11:35.139 --> 00:11:38.159 to see the outcomes of some of these what I thought 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:41.559 were small bad decisions I realized wow I was 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:44.960 saved and I trust God so much more with my life 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.460 and there's no bitterness when I think an opportunity 00:11:47.460 --> 00:11:51.639 is getting passed up because I know that I Had 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:53.799 much rather have God's plan for my life than 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:58.049 this little compromise If you've been listening 00:11:58.049 --> 00:12:00.529 for a while, you know we love sharing stories 00:12:00.529 --> 00:12:03.710 where God moves in unexpected ways. 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So there was a 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:12.259 period around college where I kind of hit that. 00:13:12.340 --> 00:13:14.779 So in my head, I had always thought like, oh, 00:13:14.779 --> 00:13:17.500 I'm going to do a show and then use that as a 00:13:17.500 --> 00:13:21.320 platform to speak on in my faith. And then it 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:23.970 wasn't happening the way that I thought and I 00:13:23.970 --> 00:13:25.669 felt like my fate was always in other people's 00:13:25.669 --> 00:13:27.629 hands. You know, you go to auditions like, do 00:13:27.629 --> 00:13:31.070 you like me? It's like you have no control. No 00:13:31.070 --> 00:13:32.429 matter how good you are, there could always be 00:13:32.429 --> 00:13:35.750 somebody else better. And so I kind of got it 00:13:35.750 --> 00:13:38.870 in my head. I'm like, how? OK, if I know this 00:13:38.870 --> 00:13:40.409 sounds a little morbid, but I'm like, what if 00:13:40.409 --> 00:13:42.690 I died in a year and I'm just sitting around 00:13:42.690 --> 00:13:45.250 waiting? I never talked about God very much because 00:13:45.250 --> 00:13:47.389 I was waiting until the big platform opened. 00:13:47.850 --> 00:13:51.720 How can I use what's in my hand right now? to 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:54.779 do what God has called me to do. And I'm like, 00:13:54.860 --> 00:13:57.960 OK, well, I love to perform. There's got to be 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:02.120 things more locally where I can use my gifts 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:06.460 in some way and still speak about the Lord. And 00:14:06.460 --> 00:14:08.639 there was a whole series of events that I won't 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:12.220 get into yet that we were working with a challenge 00:14:12.220 --> 00:14:14.500 program. There was a big event that we did. We 00:14:14.500 --> 00:14:16.340 had to promote it. We ended up going into the 00:14:16.340 --> 00:14:19.080 schools. to do some anti -bullying campaigns 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:20.960 mainly to like invite people to this big event 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.460 and I loved it and so we kind of started putting 00:14:24.460 --> 00:14:26.600 our focus there and I had met another girl that 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:29.320 had very similar passions at the time and we 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:31.639 kind of worked together and started doing a lot 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:36.159 more speaking in schools and fairs and events 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:38.840 and it kind of took off from there. What was 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:41.200 your favorite part when you were sharing and 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:44.179 going to different shows and different acting 00:14:44.179 --> 00:14:48.899 gigs? Whatever they call them. Hearing people's 00:14:48.899 --> 00:14:52.419 stories. I obviously love the arts in general. 00:14:52.580 --> 00:14:55.620 I love to dance. I will dance in my bedroom by 00:14:55.620 --> 00:14:59.240 myself. But in terms of the whole experience. 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:03.299 There's just unique opportunities. When you share 00:15:03.299 --> 00:15:05.519 something from stage, people will come up to 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:07.259 you after and tell you things that they've never 00:15:07.259 --> 00:15:09.519 told anybody. Because you're kind of safe, that 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:10.899 you kind of are a stranger in the sense that 00:15:10.899 --> 00:15:11.879 they know they're not going to see you again, 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:14.279 so why not spill? And they've heard your story, 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:16.100 so they know you've been through something similar. 00:15:16.379 --> 00:15:18.480 And just getting the opportunity to speak into 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:22.259 their lives during those hard moments is special. 00:15:23.620 --> 00:15:26.360 I know you're sharing stuff on social medias. 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.639 And what got you started in that? when you're 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:35.860 not traveling, you do that? So two separate things. 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:41.639 One, my day job for actually making money is 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:44.139 I'm in digital marketing. So I run Facebook ads, 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:47.419 Google ads, those type of things. So it was very 00:15:47.419 --> 00:15:49.899 in my wheelhouse. I kind of it was just one of 00:15:49.899 --> 00:15:51.059 those dumb moments where I'm like, I'm doing 00:15:51.059 --> 00:15:53.639 this for everybody else. Why am I not doing this 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:55.759 for the Lord? If I if I can market a product 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:58.740 and know how to try to come up with messaging. 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:01.860 In that regards, why am I not putting that same 00:16:01.860 --> 00:16:05.259 amount of effort into messaging the Lord? And 00:16:05.259 --> 00:16:07.919 as mentioned I had gone through the period where 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:11.379 I really couldn't get out of bed And so I needed 00:16:11.379 --> 00:16:16.179 stuff that did not require as much energy So 00:16:16.179 --> 00:16:19.740 what helped you get out of bed out of that season 00:16:19.740 --> 00:16:24.480 your funk Yeah, honestly, it was just time. I 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:28.940 basically had adrenal My adrenals were not working 00:16:28.940 --> 00:16:31.940 and they produce all of your energy chemicals. 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:35.240 And so when those stopped functioning, you just 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:37.960 feel like you can't stay awake. And it just took 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.320 time for it to heal. And I've had lots of stories 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:44.580 in my life where I've seen miraculous healings 00:16:44.580 --> 00:16:47.500 to the point where like, and I'll tell the story 00:16:47.500 --> 00:16:49.620 in the future, but prayed over somebody who was 00:16:49.620 --> 00:16:51.740 completely brain dead and saw him talk again. 00:16:52.169 --> 00:16:54.710 So I've seen these miracles and that's why you 00:16:54.710 --> 00:16:56.090 know I touched on in the beginning there was 00:16:56.090 --> 00:16:58.750 some frustration because I was like Man, I'm 00:16:58.750 --> 00:17:02.250 praying every day for healing and I'm not getting 00:17:02.250 --> 00:17:04.509 my little miraculous healing. What's going on 00:17:04.509 --> 00:17:07.569 here? It's not fair. You're healing other people 00:17:07.569 --> 00:17:11.049 and not me. What is this? Yeah, and I literally 00:17:11.049 --> 00:17:13.049 like opened my Bible and it brought it to the 00:17:13.049 --> 00:17:15.230 story and I'm gonna quote it wrong right now 00:17:15.230 --> 00:17:18.190 I believe it was it was one of the patriarchs. 00:17:18.210 --> 00:17:21.339 It was Moses or Abraham who was Think was Abraham 00:17:21.339 --> 00:17:24.839 but the one that his wife wanted a son. He had 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:27.279 been promised a son And then he didn't get to 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:32.140 lose 90. That's Abraham, right? Yes Okay Yes, 00:17:32.980 --> 00:17:35.880 exactly and He had gone through a similar experience 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:38.460 where I noticed that he was praying over all 00:17:38.460 --> 00:17:40.880 these other women who were getting pregnant and 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:45.440 having kids and Yet he was not and I felt like 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:47.900 wow, that's that's how I am. He must have felt 00:17:47.900 --> 00:17:51.880 the same way And then I realized, you know, his 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:54.720 what the Lord gave him after that period of waiting 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:59.140 was so much bigger than the other miracles that 00:17:59.140 --> 00:18:02.500 he was watching happen. And so it really shifted 00:18:02.500 --> 00:18:05.539 my focus to if God loves me more than I love 00:18:05.539 --> 00:18:11.799 myself and. I believe he's going to create something 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.160 good that is greater in goodness than my pain 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:19.180 is in pain, meaning. He wouldn't do this unless 00:18:19.180 --> 00:18:21.940 he thought it was worth it and there was a purpose 00:18:21.940 --> 00:18:26.680 big enough for it And so I found the joy in I'm 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:29.660 excited to see what God is gonna do with this 00:18:29.660 --> 00:18:32.299 Because I know that if he loves me he was willing 00:18:32.299 --> 00:18:34.680 to die for me So he's not apathetic even though 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:37.619 I wanted to believe that during the year. I finally 00:18:37.619 --> 00:18:40.920 realized like that can't Be the case. That's 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:44.740 not his character Satan is lying to me. Yes, 00:18:44.900 --> 00:18:48.039 and so Pretty recently actually just a couple 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:51.039 months ago I feel like I did kind of get a small 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:53.319 miraculous healing in that I had a very big jump 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:57.200 in Improvement and I feel very much back to normal 00:18:57.200 --> 00:19:01.099 because up until a Couple months ago. I was better 00:19:01.099 --> 00:19:03.019 Like I was obviously up moving around doing work 00:19:03.019 --> 00:19:05.940 and all that stuff, but I still felt not myself 00:19:05.940 --> 00:19:07.720 fully myself I'd like I didn't have all my energy 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:10.440 back and so it was very recent that I felt like 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:13.480 oh which has happened and There was like three 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:15.710 prayers answered that week And it was just kind 00:19:15.710 --> 00:19:18.029 of one of those like final, definitely felt God's 00:19:18.029 --> 00:19:21.390 hand in my life. But I will say for that entire 00:19:21.390 --> 00:19:23.670 year I prayed and I didn't get that miracle. 00:19:23.890 --> 00:19:27.609 And so I think it is important to recognize that 00:19:27.609 --> 00:19:30.130 we always should have the highest expectations 00:19:30.130 --> 00:19:32.710 going into prayer, but we should know that those 00:19:32.710 --> 00:19:34.849 high expectations don't always look exactly how 00:19:34.849 --> 00:19:37.849 we think that they should. And so and that it 00:19:37.849 --> 00:19:40.809 doesn't mean that God's not listening or he doesn't 00:19:40.809 --> 00:19:43.690 care or that he's apathetic. It means he has 00:19:43.690 --> 00:19:45.730 something bigger. And since for this one, this 00:19:45.730 --> 00:19:47.529 was such a recent thing, I don't know what God's 00:19:47.529 --> 00:19:49.589 going to do with it yet. But I do know for sure 00:19:49.589 --> 00:19:51.809 that he has a plan for it. And I do know for 00:19:51.809 --> 00:19:55.089 sure he was teaching me a lot during that time 00:19:55.089 --> 00:19:59.170 and definitely changing me significantly. Honestly, 00:19:59.569 --> 00:20:01.250 sometimes he just needs to take the wind out 00:20:01.250 --> 00:20:03.710 of her sails to sit still long enough to learn. 00:20:04.890 --> 00:20:07.759 Absolutely. Yep. And, you know, there's certain 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:09.539 things that you can only learn through certain 00:20:09.539 --> 00:20:12.500 lessons. For example, I was always under the 00:20:12.500 --> 00:20:16.019 impression that I was running out of time. And 00:20:16.019 --> 00:20:18.019 that was one of the big, my big points of anger 00:20:18.019 --> 00:20:21.660 during that time was I'm like, I'm already 39 00:20:21.660 --> 00:20:23.839 years at the time of 37, you know, but I'm 39 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:26.319 now I'm in my late thirties. I have all these 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:28.839 dreams that you've placed on my heart. And I 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:31.720 feel so behind. I feel like I'm running out of 00:20:31.720 --> 00:20:33.640 time for the types of things that you've called 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:37.000 me to do. And you're slowing me down. What is 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:39.799 this? And during that time is when he really 00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:43.359 impressed on my heart. You are not running out 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:47.000 of time. Nothing is behind schedule. Nothing 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:51.339 is too late because we are eternal beings. We 00:20:51.339 --> 00:20:56.329 are going to live for ever for eternity. And 00:20:56.329 --> 00:21:01.170 somehow in our flesh we keep thinking that 80 00:21:01.170 --> 00:21:03.809 years is it? You know, it's like we've got 80 00:21:03.809 --> 00:21:05.849 years and it's over and in my case It's like, 00:21:06.109 --> 00:21:08.829 you know, I've got probably ten years of the 00:21:08.829 --> 00:21:10.670 type of energy. I need to do these goals and 00:21:10.670 --> 00:21:13.609 that's over God gave Abraham a kid at 90 which 00:21:13.609 --> 00:21:17.029 was way past When the world says those it's time 00:21:17.029 --> 00:21:21.930 for those types of dreams. Oh, yeah That was 00:21:21.930 --> 00:21:25.480 first we live Forever so we there is no there's 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:29.000 no running out of time time is a tracker I don't 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:30.640 want to say it's an illusion because it does 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:34.259 it means something here, but it there is no end 00:21:34.259 --> 00:21:37.480 to our clock and that was When I finally really 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:40.920 got that in my bones It changed the piece that 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.299 I walk with because I feel like I was always 00:21:43.299 --> 00:21:46.039 with that kind of angst of like gotta get there 00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:49.259 Why am I so behind I'm missing out and now I 00:21:49.259 --> 00:21:51.619 feel like I'm coming from such a calmer place 00:21:52.549 --> 00:21:55.470 Being able to really recognize that hey, whatever 00:21:55.470 --> 00:21:57.670 God has for my day. That's what I want Which 00:21:57.670 --> 00:22:00.190 we just talked about but also I'm not running 00:22:00.190 --> 00:22:04.630 out of time Right. I mean your flesh is yeah, 00:22:05.029 --> 00:22:06.670 right and that's why you feel the way you feel 00:22:06.670 --> 00:22:10.130 because it knows it's not coming with you Mm 00:22:10.130 --> 00:22:12.549 -hmm. And so you can go on full -on panic mode 00:22:12.549 --> 00:22:15.049 and your flesh is having panic mode But if your 00:22:15.049 --> 00:22:17.009 spirit is willing to listen to the voice of the 00:22:17.009 --> 00:22:19.210 Lord You'll come to the revelation that you came 00:22:19.210 --> 00:22:23.819 to which is I have infinite time Right. Exactly. 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:26.859 You got a timer body, but I don't. You panic 00:22:26.859 --> 00:22:30.559 on your own time. We're not going to panic on 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:35.880 my time. Exactly. 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It calms me down and I just 00:23:45.019 --> 00:23:47.900 take it in. and I just do what I got to do and 00:23:47.900 --> 00:23:50.140 you know what I actually do have enough time 00:23:50.140 --> 00:23:51.859 to do what I want to do and it's really cool 00:23:51.859 --> 00:23:54.680 and then I'm part of this community called Kingdom 00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:58.079 Seekers and Dan McCollum was talking about time 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:01.000 and bending time and making it our you know we're 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:04.579 at the master of time and uh he was saying that 00:24:04.579 --> 00:24:06.880 God always gives me enough time to do what I 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:10.420 need to do and God has given you are at the right 00:24:10.420 --> 00:24:13.220 age to do everything right now you are not too 00:24:13.220 --> 00:24:16.920 late He has you exactly where you need to be. 00:24:17.059 --> 00:24:19.319 And he took everything into account that you 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:21.960 don't even know about, you know, your goofiness, 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.240 the bad mistakes you might make. He's got it 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:27.380 all into account. You're not bigger than him 00:24:27.380 --> 00:24:30.119 and you have enough time to do what he wants 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:35.140 you to do. Amen. I completely agree. Yeah. And 00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:38.619 as for me, you know, a while back, I used to 00:24:38.619 --> 00:24:41.279 work in oil and gas and the industry took a big 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:44.019 hit in our state. And, you know, half a million 00:24:44.019 --> 00:24:46.460 people lost their job, me included, and I kept 00:24:46.460 --> 00:24:48.420 trying to find work in the same kind of field. 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:51.920 And I couldn't. And so we were unemployed for 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:55.039 27 and a half months. And at the time, Shelly 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.440 was not working. It was just me as a sole provider 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:00.519 because they paid enough. And that's when I told 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:02.240 you that, you know, sometimes God takes the wind 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.559 out of our sails so that we have time to spend 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.140 with Him. Yeah, I hated working with the guys 00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:09.299 I worked with because they were so secular and 00:25:09.299 --> 00:25:11.460 they would just wanted to talk about girls and 00:25:11.460 --> 00:25:14.000 drinking and things that I cared nothing about. 00:25:14.259 --> 00:25:15.900 I mean, I care about girls, but not like the 00:25:15.900 --> 00:25:18.839 way they cared about them. Right. It was a wholly 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:23.079 different care. And but I didn't want to leave 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:25.180 because I was making such good money. And so, 00:25:25.180 --> 00:25:27.440 you know, God kind of kicked the stool out from 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:30.140 underneath my feet. And I got so close to him 00:25:30.140 --> 00:25:32.859 in those 27 and a half months. I mean, I did 00:25:32.859 --> 00:25:36.480 a 40 day fast shortly after that started, like 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:39.279 no food fast. I quit smoking, quit pornography. 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:43.599 There was changes that drastically happened. 00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:46.109 I heard from him more. When people say that, 00:25:46.109 --> 00:25:47.630 you know, God doesn't talk, I'm like, yes, he 00:25:47.630 --> 00:25:51.230 does. You know, I hear him all the time. Does 00:25:51.230 --> 00:25:53.750 he heal? Absolutely. Like we laid hands on my 00:25:53.750 --> 00:25:56.250 wife and healed her of 17 years of chronic neck 00:25:56.250 --> 00:25:58.869 pain. When I say my son and I was three at the 00:25:58.869 --> 00:26:01.109 time and he's just mommy be healed. We're like, 00:26:01.130 --> 00:26:05.289 let's do this. And, uh, and so, you know, together 00:26:05.289 --> 00:26:08.250 we've, we've learned a lot about getting close 00:26:08.250 --> 00:26:10.589 to the Lord, especially if all the distractions 00:26:10.589 --> 00:26:14.970 are out of the way. Yes. It's hard right because 00:26:14.970 --> 00:26:17.829 I remember during that time I I used to tell 00:26:17.829 --> 00:26:19.990 the Lord to him like I promise if you get me 00:26:19.990 --> 00:26:22.109 Well, I will still spend all this time with you 00:26:22.109 --> 00:26:24.710 and it's like the second things start going Well, 00:26:24.710 --> 00:26:27.430 it's like two weeks have passed and like oh I 00:26:27.430 --> 00:26:30.269 didn't pray because I was so busy so that I feel 00:26:30.269 --> 00:26:35.309 like that's the new challenge in my life is Now 00:26:35.309 --> 00:26:38.109 that things are moving back at normal pace. How 00:26:38.109 --> 00:26:41.289 do I not lose that intimacy and making sure that 00:26:41.289 --> 00:26:44.799 I set up? my life in such a way that that is 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:48.599 still at the center because as much as I feel 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.160 like time was wasted when I was Not able to be 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.680 quote -unquote productive in the world sense. 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:59.019 I feel like you could lose and again I Stick 00:26:59.019 --> 00:27:00.420 to what I said before you can't lose time, but 00:27:00.420 --> 00:27:03.220 in this scenario you can lose more time in that 00:27:03.220 --> 00:27:07.559 regard When you do have energy and you can go 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:09.259 after things because you're no longer connected 00:27:09.259 --> 00:27:12.369 to the Holy spirit or the vine. And so now you 00:27:12.369 --> 00:27:17.250 really are just wasting time. So yeah. Yeah. 00:27:17.269 --> 00:27:19.230 Back when I was, I think a lot of people, when 00:27:19.230 --> 00:27:21.690 they're younger and in their journey, they don't 00:27:21.690 --> 00:27:24.690 realize that what the thing was missing was the 00:27:24.690 --> 00:27:27.470 relationship with Jesus. And once you build that 00:27:27.470 --> 00:27:31.289 intimacy, it's like, you can't go back. Once 00:27:31.289 --> 00:27:34.910 you know, you know, and there's nothing else 00:27:34.910 --> 00:27:38.529 like it. And he makes that. John Gordon has this 00:27:38.529 --> 00:27:42.650 saying that he There's a hole in you h o le and 00:27:42.650 --> 00:27:46.410 then Jesus is the one that makes it w h o le 00:27:46.410 --> 00:27:49.190 hole So I love that, you know, you're chasing 00:27:49.190 --> 00:27:51.349 worldly things when you're well at least me I 00:27:51.349 --> 00:27:53.329 was chasing worldly things when I was younger 00:27:53.329 --> 00:27:55.869 before I met Josh. I was going to the bar shooting 00:27:55.869 --> 00:27:59.829 pool Drinking and doing a lot of crazy drugs 00:27:59.829 --> 00:28:03.230 But you know what it God that relationship just 00:28:03.230 --> 00:28:06.190 changed me and sanctified me and I just wanted 00:28:06.190 --> 00:28:09.819 to do those things less So it's that relationship 00:28:09.819 --> 00:28:11.799 that makes you whole. And it's you're like, you're 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.059 like, oh, it was Jesus I needed to be chasing 00:28:14.059 --> 00:28:17.240 Matthew six thirty three. But first he can and 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:19.000 his righteousness and all these things will be 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.940 added to you. So absolutely. Yeah. I mean, when 00:28:21.940 --> 00:28:24.240 I met my wife, I don't know why I stuck around 00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.119 because she had so many red flags. It was like 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.539 a carnival. Honestly, there was nothing desirable 00:28:30.539 --> 00:28:33.599 about her through her traits. But I couldn't 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:35.599 shake a familiarity I had with her like I just 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.480 like I like I never forget a face And I had that 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:39.859 feeling like I was trying to remember who she 00:28:39.859 --> 00:28:43.619 was for like a year Now we got married shortly 00:28:43.619 --> 00:28:46.119 after like six months into it. Right? It was 00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:49.079 it was quick No, we got married a year later. 00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:50.700 Well, I mean we knew we're gonna get married. 00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:55.660 We got engaged a month into it She knows more 00:28:55.660 --> 00:28:57.559 about it than I do. I was barely there. I was 00:28:57.559 --> 00:28:58.900 still counting the red flags. I mean, I didn't 00:28:58.900 --> 00:29:02.559 like how she did her makeup. She did like weird 00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:04.019 blue eyeshadow. I didn't like that. I didn't 00:29:04.019 --> 00:29:06.059 like anything about it. And I would just tell 00:29:06.059 --> 00:29:08.220 her things like, I don't like that. And she would 00:29:08.220 --> 00:29:10.119 stop it. And then I would say things I don't 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:11.579 like when you do that. And she would stop it. 00:29:11.619 --> 00:29:14.660 I'm like, this is crazy. I've never met a woman 00:29:14.660 --> 00:29:16.839 that was so responsive to me saying something 00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.799 as simple as, I don't care for that. I never 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:21.900 said, don't do this. I just said, I don't like 00:29:21.900 --> 00:29:25.259 it. And she just stopped. And I didn't realize 00:29:25.259 --> 00:29:27.140 until later how the Holy Spirit was working on 00:29:27.140 --> 00:29:30.079 her at the same time. You know, you write down 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:32.180 to us like tithing. I remember I was thinking 00:29:32.180 --> 00:29:33.640 about tithing for the first time. I was like, 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:34.859 man, I don't know how I'm going to tell her this 00:29:34.859 --> 00:29:37.859 because this is about money. And you know, you 00:29:37.859 --> 00:29:39.799 know, stereotypically, she's a woman. How is 00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:42.000 she going to want to give up money? You know, 00:29:42.059 --> 00:29:44.740 I'm the only one working and I'm going to bring 00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:46.299 up this thing. So I came home from work. I'm 00:29:46.299 --> 00:29:47.960 like, hey, I really think we should tithe. And 00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:50.140 I'm like waiting to hear the argument. And she's 00:29:50.140 --> 00:29:53.559 like, OK. Like like it was nothing like what 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:55.339 like God had already worked on her heart and 00:29:55.339 --> 00:29:57.519 she like for like a week or something Before 00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:03.000 I even brought it up. Oh Wow It is so crazy how 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.019 the Holy Spirit does that there's so many times 00:30:05.019 --> 00:30:07.039 where he'll be putting something on my heart 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.220 and There's like five other people in my life 00:30:09.220 --> 00:30:11.480 who he's putting on their hearts as well And 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:13.660 it just reconfirms you're like, yeah. Oh, so 00:30:13.660 --> 00:30:16.039 I'm not crazy like no matter how many times I 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:17.539 see miracles There's always that little voice 00:30:17.539 --> 00:30:19.829 in your head. They're like Are you sure you didn't 00:30:19.829 --> 00:30:21.509 over blow that in your head? Are you sure you're 00:30:21.509 --> 00:30:23.589 not crazy? And this is just something like you're 00:30:23.589 --> 00:30:25.170 experiencing in your own mind. And then you're 00:30:25.170 --> 00:30:27.450 like, okay, like I didn't control all those people. 00:30:28.029 --> 00:30:30.069 There's definitely something going on here. This 00:30:30.069 --> 00:30:31.529 is insane. Right. Well, I mean, when there's 00:30:31.529 --> 00:30:35.240 physical change. It's hard to deny it. I've never 00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.539 seen a limb regrown, but I don't believe it's 00:30:37.539 --> 00:30:39.319 out in the realm of impossibility. I've seen 00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:42.839 it in videos where the leg gets longer. But our 00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.359 son had OCD. I've seen his behavior. I've seen 00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.480 how he acted. I've seen the torture he went through 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.460 with OCD. And we prayed for him and he is OCD 00:30:51.460 --> 00:30:53.940 free and it's been three years now. He's not 00:30:53.940 --> 00:30:55.960 he doesn't have any other like it's it's gone 00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.000 gone Right. And so, you know if somebody to tell 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:00.480 me well, there's no evidence. I'm like, there's 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.140 plenty of evidence You just need to look. Yeah, 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.839 you know if we had recorded how he was and I 00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:07.900 think we do have some Recordings of how he used 00:31:07.900 --> 00:31:10.079 to behave when he'd have a meltdown if something 00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:14.200 didn't go the right way It was nuts that he just 00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:20.740 doesn't do anymore Wow Yeah, we've seen a lot 00:31:20.740 --> 00:31:25.019 I'm I'll share this about myself, too I know 00:31:25.019 --> 00:31:26.539 I'm not supposed to be interviewing you but I 00:31:26.539 --> 00:31:29.779 want to know and I know The listeners want to 00:31:29.779 --> 00:31:33.220 know what was a time that you doubted God or 00:31:33.220 --> 00:31:37.420 felt far from him and what brought you back You 00:31:37.420 --> 00:31:40.359 know, that's That's that kind of like a daily 00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.220 thing, right? So we're supposed to deny ourselves 00:31:42.220 --> 00:31:45.200 daily and pick up our cross And so I can have 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:47.180 a hard week where I'm like super sick and I've 00:31:47.180 --> 00:31:50.000 seen my son healed I've seen my wife healed and 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.400 I'm not and I get to suffer through sickness. 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:54.400 I get to suffer through pain I get to suffer 00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.039 through so many things. I mean constantly I have 00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:59.640 yet to receive one miraculous healing that has 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.400 stuck and I'm hopeful I'm hopeful but God is 00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:06.309 really impressed on me that that I was and even 00:32:06.309 --> 00:32:08.390 through a prophetic song that I was literally 00:32:08.390 --> 00:32:12.029 created to suffer. And so it gives me hope knowing 00:32:12.029 --> 00:32:15.289 that he's not far from me in that, that this 00:32:15.289 --> 00:32:18.950 is his purpose for me. That if I can suffer so 00:32:18.950 --> 00:32:22.650 someone else does not, then what better thing 00:32:22.650 --> 00:32:25.420 to do for God? Right? And this is something tangible 00:32:25.420 --> 00:32:28.400 I can do because I do have ADHD and I do forget 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.660 things quickly. And I do have object permanence, 00:32:31.819 --> 00:32:33.980 right? And I don't like to go out and talk to 00:32:33.980 --> 00:32:37.059 people. So if I can suffer for them, I'm doing 00:32:37.059 --> 00:32:40.519 exactly the God's will for me, for them. And 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.220 so I look at that in a different perspective 00:32:43.220 --> 00:32:45.680 is how I cope with it, is I try to look at that 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.819 I am doing what God wants me to do. When he's 00:32:48.819 --> 00:32:52.240 farthest from me or so, I feel that he is I take 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.619 my I have a liberal arts degree as well I did 00:32:54.619 --> 00:32:56.539 a lot of drawing and such and so I take that 00:32:56.539 --> 00:32:59.099 that idea perspective in mind and remember that 00:32:59.099 --> 00:33:01.180 oftentimes artists have to stand back from their 00:33:01.180 --> 00:33:03.839 work to see the whole picture and the reason 00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:06.400 is because you're too close and so when I think 00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.319 that I can't feel God is because he is completely 00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.140 and utterly smothering me and I can't see him 00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:15.859 because all I see is him Like he's just too close 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:21.640 I want to define something for the listener's 00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.319 sake. And you correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:26.819 pretty sure we're on the same page here. It's 00:33:26.819 --> 00:33:29.039 not that, I don't think that God ever desires 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:33.799 us to suffer in the spiritual sense, but obviously 00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:36.599 there is suffering that... he's placed in our 00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:38.859 lives in the physical sense. And it's that verse 00:33:38.859 --> 00:33:41.599 of, though outwardly I'm being persecuted day 00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.539 by day, inwardly I'm being renewed. So I feel 00:33:44.539 --> 00:33:48.460 like it's more of a picture of him teaching us 00:33:48.460 --> 00:33:50.460 or wanting us to be able to learn how to feel 00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:54.019 the fruits of the spirit, joy and peace through 00:33:54.019 --> 00:33:57.819 all of the external circumstances of, yes, those 00:33:57.819 --> 00:34:00.220 are suffering. So it's not that the suffering 00:34:00.220 --> 00:34:02.759 goes away. Those are things that we... It's real. 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:06.039 It's being experienced in our flesh. But I think 00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.880 his desire for us is to still experience the 00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.579 Holy Spirit and the fruits of the Spirit through 00:34:11.579 --> 00:34:14.420 that. Correct. 90 % of the time, I would say 00:34:14.420 --> 00:34:17.239 I'm content and full of joy, even in the suffering. 00:34:17.809 --> 00:34:20.510 And so, that's the proof in that pudding. We 00:34:20.510 --> 00:34:23.929 are human, so there's only so much that we can 00:34:23.929 --> 00:34:27.070 control our minds here. Right, well, I think 00:34:27.070 --> 00:34:29.769 90 % is pretty good. We don't stub our toe and 00:34:29.769 --> 00:34:33.489 go, oh, that felt great. Right, but if something 00:34:33.489 --> 00:34:35.690 good happens, I can still be wincing and be like, 00:34:35.710 --> 00:34:38.780 well, that's pretty cool. Right. I feel like 00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:41.019 it's that picture of Paul, too, where when he's 00:34:41.019 --> 00:34:43.920 handcuffed in prison, it's not that the handcuffs 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:47.659 didn't hurt. It's that his mind was so focused 00:34:47.659 --> 00:34:51.199 on heaven and on eternal things that he was still 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:54.059 able to praise and experience joy through the 00:34:54.059 --> 00:34:55.860 pain. So it's not that we're saying you're not 00:34:55.860 --> 00:34:57.079 supposed to suffer. You're not supposed to pain. 00:34:57.699 --> 00:35:00.079 No, you really will feel those things. But it's 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.880 that developing that connection with the Holy 00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:07.039 Spirit to be able to also Experience the joy 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.360 through it. Absolutely. I mean he obviously built 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:13.739 me tough to take it If you're gonna be done you 00:35:13.739 --> 00:35:16.480 gotta be tough, right? So here we are right and 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.300 gives you that grace on a daily basis to be able 00:35:19.300 --> 00:35:22.300 to Withstand whatever he knows is coming your 00:35:22.300 --> 00:35:24.820 way that day. Mm -hmm Yeah, and just the knowledge 00:35:24.820 --> 00:35:27.039 of it helps get me through sometimes knowing 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.500 that this is going to hurt, but it's OK. Right. 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:32.719 And you know, my wife does not understand that 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:34.239 because she doesn't she doesn't have time for 00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.099 that most of the time. That's usually what she 00:35:36.099 --> 00:35:38.480 prays. We are opposites. Like, Lord, I don't 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.000 have time for that. Like if sickness is coming 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.099 upon my house, I don't have time for that. I 00:35:42.099 --> 00:35:44.239 rebuke that in Jesus name. And then Josh is the 00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:46.380 only one who gets sick because I can't handle 00:35:46.380 --> 00:35:49.539 it. And I just plow through whatever like like 00:35:49.539 --> 00:35:51.199 a bison. She's more like a butterfly and I'm 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.960 like a buffalo. You know, like the slightest 00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.460 wind change or temperature change affects her 00:35:56.460 --> 00:35:59.659 completely. But it could be a 50 mile an hour 00:35:59.659 --> 00:36:01.840 wind and I could get hit with a flying stop sign 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.739 and I'm like, not even phased. Oh, that's too 00:36:05.739 --> 00:36:09.380 funny. If you've been feeling stirred, but unsure 00:36:09.380 --> 00:36:12.280 how to move forward, you're not alone. 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Check out the 00:36:25.860 --> 00:36:31.929 link in our about section to learn more. you 00:36:31.929 --> 00:36:34.809 know i'm putting on this conference god's goodness 00:36:34.809 --> 00:36:36.750 kingdom conference it's going to be september 00:36:36.750 --> 00:36:39.590 5th and 6th and only i'm only doing it because 00:36:39.590 --> 00:36:41.889 god said to do it because josh is like why would 00:36:41.889 --> 00:36:43.750 we do that and i'm like i don't know god told 00:36:43.750 --> 00:36:49.510 me to because last year we did a meet and greet 00:36:49.510 --> 00:36:51.510 for the first year guests and he's like we're 00:36:51.510 --> 00:36:53.489 not going to do this every year i'm like i don't 00:36:53.489 --> 00:36:57.769 know and now it's a conference watch out what 00:36:57.769 --> 00:37:00.769 you say but like i don't have a venue yet And 00:37:00.769 --> 00:37:02.989 you know what? I'm like, well, if God wanted 00:37:02.989 --> 00:37:06.909 it to happen, He is our Jehovah Jireh, our provision, 00:37:07.010 --> 00:37:09.730 you know, it's always there, whether it's mailbox 00:37:09.730 --> 00:37:13.170 money or whatever. So like, I don't have a venue 00:37:13.170 --> 00:37:15.389 yet, but I have volunteers. I got, we're going 00:37:15.389 --> 00:37:17.409 to do Altered Live. So it's going to be, you 00:37:17.409 --> 00:37:20.230 know, online and in person. We're going to have 00:37:20.230 --> 00:37:23.829 the authors from the guests, past guests, come 00:37:23.829 --> 00:37:25.849 and do tables, you know, if they want to sign 00:37:25.849 --> 00:37:28.090 books or whatever, they'll be there. I just need 00:37:28.090 --> 00:37:32.690 a place to do it. And, you know, normally somebody 00:37:32.690 --> 00:37:34.789 might get worried at this point because we're 00:37:34.789 --> 00:37:38.610 here, you know. In July and still can't promote 00:37:38.610 --> 00:37:40.909 the venue But God has always provided before 00:37:40.909 --> 00:37:43.949 so he's going to deliver if he wants this thing 00:37:43.949 --> 00:37:47.250 to happen If not, like I don't have a you know, 00:37:47.250 --> 00:37:52.230 I I have a story for you Because you said the 00:37:52.230 --> 00:37:54.429 word I don't have a venue and it just brought 00:37:54.429 --> 00:37:58.400 back the memories so I completely agree that 00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:00.460 when God places something on your heart, he's 00:38:00.460 --> 00:38:04.800 going to see it through, but or and also it doesn't 00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.760 always look exactly how you originally thought. 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.860 So you remember I said, you know how the we started 00:38:10.860 --> 00:38:13.460 speaking in schools. So here's the background 00:38:13.460 --> 00:38:17.059 story. We're going to put on a big charity event 00:38:17.059 --> 00:38:19.780 and Kelly Clarkson was going to come perform 00:38:19.780 --> 00:38:22.219 and we were raising money for this challenge 00:38:22.219 --> 00:38:24.260 program and it was supposed to be this big event. 00:38:24.260 --> 00:38:26.619 I was so excited because I felt like wow, this 00:38:26.619 --> 00:38:28.860 is really going to be like a breakthrough moment 00:38:28.860 --> 00:38:31.619 where because I was going to perform and speak 00:38:31.619 --> 00:38:34.380 at it as well. I'm going to like get to live 00:38:34.380 --> 00:38:36.019 my dreams that I'm helping put on this thing 00:38:36.019 --> 00:38:38.579 that's going to help so many kids. And at the 00:38:38.579 --> 00:38:41.480 last moment, the well, so Kelly Clarkson was 00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:44.280 one of three people that we had like kind of 00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.320 had like conversations with and then fell out. 00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.320 And so the like the third person at this point 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.940 fell. fell through and we're like what is going 00:38:51.940 --> 00:38:53.639 on and when the third person fell through it 00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:55.239 was like right before the date where we had to 00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.780 pay the venue so we we didn't have the funds 00:38:57.780 --> 00:39:00.519 to get the venue and so we're like what do we 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.860 do like there's i'm like in my home like god 00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:05.139 we'd already told all of these kids that we're 00:39:05.139 --> 00:39:07.760 raising money for them we can't just like how 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.460 could it be your will that we say we're gonna 00:39:10.460 --> 00:39:12.280 do we're gonna help them and then we don't help 00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.719 them that just doesn't make sense to me so we 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.000 we came up with this idea we're like you know 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.360 what we're going to start promoting it from the 00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:21.820 ground up instead of like just having money to 00:39:21.820 --> 00:39:24.079 market it from the top down, if you will. And 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:26.099 so we're like, well, we got to go into the schools 00:39:26.099 --> 00:39:29.260 and try to promote it so that people will come 00:39:29.260 --> 00:39:30.699 and that we can start getting the word out because 00:39:30.699 --> 00:39:32.400 we figured, you know, once you get more promotion 00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.840 and excitement around things, more names will 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:38.179 latch on. And so we went into the first school 00:39:38.179 --> 00:39:39.659 and we were planning on just going in and kind 00:39:39.659 --> 00:39:42.460 of like performing and talking about the Event 00:39:42.460 --> 00:39:45.039 and stuff and they were like, oh, we don't let 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.179 people just like come in and perform We only 00:39:47.179 --> 00:39:49.380 do assemblies if there's like a topic like if 00:39:49.380 --> 00:39:51.579 you're coming in for anti -bullying or these 00:39:51.579 --> 00:39:55.800 types of things. They were like You know I had 00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.340 something so for real real story. I was very 00:39:58.340 --> 00:40:01.619 bullied when I was in sixth grade Severely and 00:40:01.619 --> 00:40:03.239 so like I have experience with that. I could 00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:05.739 definitely speak on this but in the beginning 00:40:05.739 --> 00:40:07.659 that was not the intention it was just the intention 00:40:07.659 --> 00:40:10.670 of like this big event that we had planned. So 00:40:10.670 --> 00:40:15.230 we went in and we, it was amazing. And we experienced 00:40:15.230 --> 00:40:19.030 so much transformation. And after about like 00:40:19.030 --> 00:40:21.050 five of these, I remember sitting down and going 00:40:21.050 --> 00:40:22.230 like, well, what are we going to do? Like, are 00:40:22.230 --> 00:40:23.349 we going to keep going? Because we don't even 00:40:23.349 --> 00:40:25.030 know if the event's going to happen now. And 00:40:25.030 --> 00:40:26.630 we're like, you know, we're not stopping this 00:40:26.630 --> 00:40:32.010 tour until the event happens. And 200 shows later. 00:40:33.529 --> 00:40:35.989 So guess what? Unfortunately, the event didn't 00:40:35.989 --> 00:40:38.650 happen. We never raised, we never got the big 00:40:38.650 --> 00:40:40.230 celebrity. We never raised the money, but that 00:40:40.230 --> 00:40:42.570 commitment that we made to keep going until we 00:40:42.570 --> 00:40:48.449 did caused 200 micro events that change kids' 00:40:48.630 --> 00:40:52.889 lives all over the nation. So again, in my mind 00:40:52.889 --> 00:40:55.050 for the longest time, I was like, it failed. 00:40:55.170 --> 00:40:57.670 God didn't come through. But once we got about 00:40:57.670 --> 00:40:59.489 halfway through the tour, I'm like, oh, I see. 00:40:59.690 --> 00:41:02.010 That didn't fail at all. This was the plan all 00:41:02.010 --> 00:41:04.570 along. This is what we were meant to do. Not 00:41:04.570 --> 00:41:07.710 just one big off event. We were meant to do many. 00:41:08.250 --> 00:41:11.349 And still for you and anybody listening, the 00:41:11.349 --> 00:41:14.050 no's are not denials and it doesn't mean that 00:41:14.050 --> 00:41:16.090 you didn't hear the Holy Spirit. I always think 00:41:16.090 --> 00:41:18.309 of Paul when he was writing one of the books 00:41:18.309 --> 00:41:20.469 and he thought he was going, was it Spain, I 00:41:20.469 --> 00:41:23.210 think, or he had an ultimate destination that 00:41:23.210 --> 00:41:26.300 he wanted to go to after Rome. He was so convinced 00:41:26.300 --> 00:41:28.519 the Holy Spirit was telling him to go there and 00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.639 he ends up dying in Rome He didn't make it but 00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:33.940 it wasn't that he misunderstood the Holy Spirit 00:41:33.940 --> 00:41:36.280 the Holy Spirit had put that on his heart because 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.219 that's the vision he needed to be able to take 00:41:39.219 --> 00:41:42.400 this the correct steps in Rome that the Holy 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:44.980 Spirit needed him to take so the Holy Spirit 00:41:44.980 --> 00:41:49.739 is speaking to you even when you Don't see it 00:41:49.739 --> 00:41:51.380 Come to fruition the way that you thought that 00:41:51.380 --> 00:41:54.519 it should By the way, I'm not speaking that over 00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:56.860 you. Your event is going to happen. I'm speaking 00:41:56.860 --> 00:42:03.380 to the listeners here. I was cool with it. I'm 00:42:03.380 --> 00:42:05.480 just kidding. Obviously, I want my wife to be 00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:07.960 exceedingly abundantly happy with what she can 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:11.260 do for God and the kingdom. However, that you 00:42:11.260 --> 00:42:14.199 say, so you work as digital media. What do you 00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:16.360 do? Like, because I don't watch your YouTube 00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:23.420 videos. I apologize. I'm disgusted with myself. 00:42:24.539 --> 00:42:26.739 So what is it? What is it you do to promote Jesus 00:42:26.739 --> 00:42:32.460 or holistically? Holy things in your life. Like 00:42:32.460 --> 00:42:34.079 what is it? What is it? What messages do you 00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:35.780 like to bring? What platforms do you like to 00:42:35.780 --> 00:42:39.679 use? Like what is it you do? Like fill me in. 00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:42.980 Honestly, I speak on kind of what we're doing 00:42:42.980 --> 00:42:45.420 here. Whatever the Holy Spirit puts on my heart 00:42:45.420 --> 00:42:48.079 and I use whatever means I have in front of, 00:42:48.219 --> 00:42:51.800 in my hands at that moment. So if it's YouTube, 00:42:52.340 --> 00:42:55.500 Facebook, Instagram, and the social media is 00:42:55.500 --> 00:42:58.420 wonderful. If there's times to speak in person 00:42:58.420 --> 00:43:00.699 or conferences that come up, I love those as 00:43:00.699 --> 00:43:05.260 well. But to me, it isn't so much about the platform 00:43:05.260 --> 00:43:09.380 or the like one central message. It's about how 00:43:09.380 --> 00:43:13.619 do I reach people and get them to comprehend 00:43:13.619 --> 00:43:17.699 the greatness and goodness. of our Father and 00:43:17.699 --> 00:43:21.559 how much He can change people's lives. Because 00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:26.219 I feel like there's been a lot of emphasis on 00:43:26.219 --> 00:43:28.760 the stick in the past in terms of, you know, 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.219 when we talk about things that drive people to 00:43:31.219 --> 00:43:33.340 change, there's the carrot and the stick. There's 00:43:33.340 --> 00:43:35.619 what you're looking forward to and then what 00:43:35.619 --> 00:43:37.960 you want to avoid. And I feel like a lot of time 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.230 in the church has been spent on what we want 00:43:40.230 --> 00:43:42.949 to avoid, which by all means we want to avoid 00:43:42.949 --> 00:43:45.090 those things, right? Nobody wants to face the 00:43:45.090 --> 00:43:47.789 consequences of bad decisions. But at the same 00:43:47.789 --> 00:43:50.670 time, I think we miss out on also instilling 00:43:50.670 --> 00:43:53.730 in people and helping them to recognize the joy 00:43:53.730 --> 00:43:56.869 and what is actually possible for the life when 00:43:56.869 --> 00:43:59.409 they are aligned with and living with within 00:43:59.409 --> 00:44:03.090 the will of the creator. The one that made them 00:44:03.090 --> 00:44:05.250 and placed all those gifts in their lives that 00:44:05.250 --> 00:44:07.769 he really has a plan for them and if they want 00:44:07.769 --> 00:44:10.110 I feel like all of us have this deep yearning 00:44:10.110 --> 00:44:12.670 for meaning and to be a part of something bigger 00:44:12.670 --> 00:44:15.469 than ourselves and That he designed us that way 00:44:15.469 --> 00:44:17.090 because we are supposed to be part of something 00:44:17.090 --> 00:44:19.929 bigger He gave us individual gifts to be woven 00:44:19.929 --> 00:44:23.809 into this big tapestry and when we are not in 00:44:23.809 --> 00:44:27.909 connection with God or with our father We might 00:44:27.909 --> 00:44:29.289 not get to experience that again. That sounds 00:44:29.289 --> 00:44:30.849 like the stick, but I'm saying that the focus 00:44:30.849 --> 00:44:34.019 is on What could our lives look like with him? 00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.480 And that is what I really want people to understand 00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.860 and envision and seek after because I think that 00:44:39.860 --> 00:44:43.059 is life. That is the ultimate eternal life right 00:44:43.059 --> 00:44:46.739 there. That's awesome. It reminds me of this 00:44:46.739 --> 00:44:50.210 multi. I have a multimillion dollar mentor. Renita 00:44:50.210 --> 00:44:53.309 Brennan and we just had this this training on 00:44:53.309 --> 00:44:56.130 Sunday and she talked about the vision you you 00:44:56.130 --> 00:44:58.469 know in Habakkuk you make the vision you make 00:44:58.469 --> 00:45:01.050 it plain and you go through all the details so 00:45:01.050 --> 00:45:03.570 we listed a vision for what we want to see our 00:45:03.570 --> 00:45:07.530 life look like now or a year from now and she 00:45:07.530 --> 00:45:10.909 our assignment was to think about that list and 00:45:10.909 --> 00:45:14.070 actually sit and meditate and feel how you would 00:45:14.070 --> 00:45:17.010 feel imagine how you would feel when that's fulfilled 00:45:17.010 --> 00:45:20.590 and that actually brings it in and it's biblical 00:45:20.590 --> 00:45:23.050 and it was just really cool because there was 00:45:23.050 --> 00:45:27.190 a the this book calling things that are not and 00:45:27.190 --> 00:45:31.570 so it just like the bible says you speak what 00:45:31.570 --> 00:45:34.889 you want to see and then when you feel it it 00:45:34.889 --> 00:45:38.050 just kind of Brings it in and so that's what 00:45:38.050 --> 00:45:41.289 we've been working on Well, and it's so interesting 00:45:41.289 --> 00:45:46.070 because obviously in my work there is New age 00:45:46.070 --> 00:45:48.010 and manifestation and all those things are really 00:45:48.010 --> 00:45:51.170 big So in my mind for a long time, I was like, 00:45:51.349 --> 00:45:53.110 oh wait, that's not Christian We have to stay 00:45:53.110 --> 00:45:55.590 away from that. But then once I actually started 00:45:55.590 --> 00:45:58.929 listening harder. I'm like the only difference 00:45:58.929 --> 00:46:02.809 here is the source and but the source makes all 00:46:02.809 --> 00:46:06.150 of the difference because really what they're 00:46:06.150 --> 00:46:10.309 saying is completely biblical. They're just removing 00:46:10.309 --> 00:46:13.429 God from it. If you put God back in it, what 00:46:13.429 --> 00:46:15.389 they're saying is completely biblical. There's 00:46:15.389 --> 00:46:19.230 a lot of talk about, it's not just about like 00:46:19.230 --> 00:46:20.849 saying a mantra, but exactly what you were talking 00:46:20.849 --> 00:46:23.869 about when you focus on that future vision and 00:46:23.869 --> 00:46:27.010 feel that experience, those future emotions now. 00:46:27.449 --> 00:46:29.329 It radically changes your experience of life, 00:46:29.409 --> 00:46:31.610 right? Because whatever you're living in in your 00:46:31.610 --> 00:46:33.769 head is what you're experiencing. And every day 00:46:33.769 --> 00:46:35.070 we choose, what are we going to live in our head? 00:46:35.110 --> 00:46:37.389 Do we want to pull up a bad memory from the past, 00:46:37.590 --> 00:46:39.650 something that we said that was wrong? What are 00:46:39.650 --> 00:46:42.170 we going to live in? And, you know, in more of 00:46:42.170 --> 00:46:45.429 the New Age philosophy, it's so like, just imagine 00:46:45.429 --> 00:46:48.210 what you personally want and by your own power, 00:46:48.230 --> 00:46:51.750 you will manifest it. Whereas as believers, the 00:46:51.750 --> 00:46:54.909 first part is true, meaning. That's absolutely 00:46:54.909 --> 00:46:57.530 what Paul calls us to. He says, set your mind 00:46:57.530 --> 00:46:59.769 on things above. We are not supposed to be setting 00:46:59.769 --> 00:47:02.550 our minds on all of the painful things of the 00:47:02.550 --> 00:47:05.329 past or all of the worries of the future. We're 00:47:05.329 --> 00:47:07.869 to be setting our minds on him and the vision 00:47:07.869 --> 00:47:10.769 and the promises that he has for our life. And 00:47:10.769 --> 00:47:12.030 those are things we're supposed to be meditating 00:47:12.030 --> 00:47:16.309 on and feeling. The difference is we are trusting 00:47:16.309 --> 00:47:19.610 in the power of God to bring those things to 00:47:19.610 --> 00:47:24.369 pass instead of our own power. And in a sense, 00:47:24.489 --> 00:47:26.530 though, God, we do remember that the Holy Spirit 00:47:26.530 --> 00:47:30.210 lives in us. So what we say and what we focus 00:47:30.210 --> 00:47:34.110 on matters as well. But I just thought it was 00:47:34.110 --> 00:47:37.349 such a it's so fascinating when you look into 00:47:37.349 --> 00:47:39.769 other religions and other cultures and you realize 00:47:39.769 --> 00:47:44.210 there's always a sprinkle of truth. It's that 00:47:44.210 --> 00:47:47.349 the enemy uses that one percent to twist it and 00:47:47.349 --> 00:47:50.269 take the power, the real power out of it. But 00:47:50.269 --> 00:47:54.260 you will see Biblical truths stolen all over 00:47:54.260 --> 00:47:57.159 the place and sometimes honestly They do a better 00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:59.739 job of explaining them because I felt like you 00:47:59.739 --> 00:48:03.719 know, sometimes in New Age they explain Answered 00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.940 prayer aka manifestation and so forth better 00:48:06.940 --> 00:48:10.900 than some believers explain it and in the sense 00:48:10.900 --> 00:48:15.480 of how do you experience those emotions now and 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:18.900 Yeah, so it's been a fascinating change in my 00:48:18.900 --> 00:48:21.599 thinking over the last couple years as I've been 00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:26.059 evaluating those types of things. Yeah, I mean 00:48:26.059 --> 00:48:29.519 as a Christian, I mean the whole purpose, not 00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:31.639 the whole purpose, but a large purpose of reading 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:36.079 the Bible is so that we can discern when things 00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:39.760 don't align. So when that person does say 95 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:43.440 % of the truth, with sprinkled in 5 % of not 00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:46.260 the truth, as a Christian, and you're not looking 00:48:46.260 --> 00:48:47.880 into it, you're not discerning, and you're not 00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:49.639 reading your Bible, you're gonna believe this 00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:54.460 person as the 100 % true. Because he's not putting 00:48:54.460 --> 00:48:56.820 it out there as 50 -50. He's putting it out there 00:48:56.820 --> 00:49:01.500 as almost 100%. So if I baked you a pie that 00:49:01.500 --> 00:49:04.820 was 95 % good, but 5 % made with dog feces that 00:49:04.820 --> 00:49:06.760 I got out of my yard, but I didn't tell you about 00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.480 it. You would probably eat this pie like it was 00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.199 nothing but if I told you it had in it you wouldn't 00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:14.340 even try to taste it You wouldn't go anywhere 00:49:14.340 --> 00:49:17.360 near it, right? And so there's a there's that's 00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:19.119 it's very important to know your Bible. It's 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:22.239 very important to Listen to the Holy Spirit's 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.159 guiding in your life It's very important that 00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:26.599 if you feel something rubbing against your soul 00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.300 to examine why it's rubbing against your soul 00:49:29.300 --> 00:49:32.320 and to add to that and looking at the fruit of 00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.559 things because Unfortunately, I feel like so 00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:38.369 right now we're talking about, you know Larger 00:49:38.369 --> 00:49:40.530 mistakes in doctrine within like totally other 00:49:40.530 --> 00:49:43.929 religions But there's also a lot of micro teachings 00:49:43.929 --> 00:49:46.869 that I feel have infiltrated the church itself 00:49:46.869 --> 00:49:50.909 It sounds right but then you look at the fruit 00:49:50.909 --> 00:49:53.849 of what it produces and when you see Whether 00:49:53.849 --> 00:49:55.849 it's in your life or somebody around you where 00:49:55.849 --> 00:49:58.690 they're constantly in panic. They're constantly 00:49:58.690 --> 00:50:02.519 in shame They're constantly depressed I'm not 00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:04.139 talking about like clinical depression just like 00:50:04.139 --> 00:50:07.719 of that type of because of that thing There's 00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.800 a problem because we're supposed to know a teaching 00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:13.739 by its fruit And so if it's not producing the 00:50:13.739 --> 00:50:16.420 fruit of the spirit, we should question. What 00:50:16.420 --> 00:50:18.820 is it here? That's being tweaked What is it that 00:50:18.820 --> 00:50:21.579 might not quite be in line with what God was 00:50:21.579 --> 00:50:25.139 really saying here? Because the outcome of God's 00:50:25.139 --> 00:50:29.860 Word is not panic You know what I mean? Correct. 00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:32.699 Absolutely 100 % agree with that You know, it's 00:50:32.699 --> 00:50:35.940 very, very insightful on that. Thank you for 00:50:35.940 --> 00:50:38.980 revealing that truth for us. We also just want 00:50:38.980 --> 00:50:41.000 to thank you so much for being on our show today, 00:50:41.260 --> 00:50:45.659 taking the time out for us, exposing, you know, 00:50:45.900 --> 00:50:48.820 some of your vulnerabilities, some of the problems, 00:50:48.820 --> 00:50:50.679 you know, with not being able to do anything 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:53.280 with adrenal problems. It takes a lot of courage 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:55.900 to speak up about some of our frailties. It takes 00:50:55.900 --> 00:50:57.880 a lot of courage, especially in today's day and 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:01.000 age, to speak for God. to a point where we're 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:03.099 unashamed of the Bible. And I just want to thank 00:51:03.099 --> 00:51:04.719 you for your courage. I want to thank you for 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:07.360 your strength. I want to thank you for just what 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.239 you've done overcoming the things that you've 00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:14.559 overcome, you know, from Hollywood to unlearned 00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:16.760 things. You know, you just you've come a long 00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:18.380 way from where you were to where you are now. 00:51:18.380 --> 00:51:20.719 And I just know that you're going to go further, 00:51:20.940 --> 00:51:23.670 especially since you're putting him first. I 00:51:23.670 --> 00:51:25.429 really appreciate that. Thank you so much. And 00:51:25.429 --> 00:51:27.829 it's been, it's been such a pleasure and it's 00:51:27.829 --> 00:51:29.590 been a pleasure getting to know you guys as well. 00:51:29.610 --> 00:51:31.949 I'm excited to see what the future brings. Thank 00:51:31.949 --> 00:51:34.250 you. We went a lot of different places, but one 00:51:34.250 --> 00:51:36.110 last place, would you leave our listeners with 00:51:36.110 --> 00:51:42.590 your favorite Bible verse? So really the simple 00:51:42.590 --> 00:51:44.949 set your mind on things above where Christ is 00:51:44.949 --> 00:51:47.650 seated at the right hand of God has changed my 00:51:47.650 --> 00:51:51.349 life because I feel like there's just so much 00:51:51.579 --> 00:51:55.559 anxiety and depression and people not experiencing 00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:58.260 the fruit of the Spirit going on today. And that 00:51:58.260 --> 00:52:01.579 is the verse that can change that. Because when 00:52:01.579 --> 00:52:05.320 we set our minds on the love of God, the fact 00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:07.420 that we are going to be here for all of eternity, 00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.539 that our time's not running out, that God is 00:52:10.539 --> 00:52:13.519 in control, meaning we're not missing out on 00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:17.340 anything, it radically changes our experience 00:52:17.340 --> 00:52:22.059 of this life. Thank you for that, Lisa. I really 00:52:22.059 --> 00:52:25.260 appreciate you and your time. And this is a fun 00:52:25.260 --> 00:52:28.099 episode and I hope everyone is blessed listening 00:52:28.099 --> 00:52:31.219 to it. Please pass it along to somebody and they 00:52:31.219 --> 00:52:34.019 can be encouraged as well. And we'll talk to 00:52:34.019 --> 00:52:35.900 you next week. All right. Well, thank you so 00:52:35.900 --> 00:52:39.219 much. Thanks for tuning in to today's episode. 00:52:39.699 --> 00:52:42.519 Listen, let's stay connected. 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