that this is where I was. And in that moment,
I called out to God. I cried out to God. I said,
Lord, I don't want to die. I have a five and
seven year old. I have my husband. I have this
career. I feel like I'm working with you. I'm
not ready to die. And I really feel like my spirit,
our salvation is not through works with Jesus.
He did all of that on the cross. It's by grace
through faith. So I knew that. somehow knew like
I had more on this earth to do. Hey there, welcome
to the God's Goodness podcast. We are your host,
Josh and Shelly Hankins, and we're here to share
real stories of God's power, stories of hope,
healing, and miracles that will strengthen your
faith. No matter what you're walking through,
we want to remind you that God is good and he's
still moving today. Let's dive in. Today's guest
is someone who shares our heart for the miraculous.
Julie Hedenborg is the host of the Everyday Miracles
podcast where she boldly highlights the moments
God steps into ordinary lives in extraordinary
ways. She's a former CRNA, a wife, a mom, and
a powerful woman of God whose own miraculous
encounter forever changed the course of her life.
Since then, Julie has made it her mission to
help others know that miracles are not just biblical,
they're now. From divine healings and angelic
encounters to last -minute rescues that defy
all logic, Julie's conversations point listeners
to the goodness and the nearness of God. So whether
you're waiting on your own breakthrough or you
just need a reminder that heaven is closer than
we think, this one's for you. Let's welcome Julie
Hedenborg to the God's Goodness podcast. Oh,
thank you, Shelly. It's an honor to be with you
and Josh today. I'm so excited you're here. So
before we dive in, Julie, would you do us the
honor of opening us in prayer? I'd be happy to
do that. Dear Heavenly Father, Lord, we thank
you for this day. It's the day that you have
made and we rejoice in it. Lord, I celebrate
you right now and it's my joy to share what you
have done. that you are a God who loves each
and every one of us and there's nothing that's
too hard for you. There's nothing that is impossible
with you. So I pray for every listener right
now that whatever you need them to hear right
now, you know what that is, that they would receive
it. So Lord, I thank you. for Shelly and Josh
and their time this morning and their obedience
and what you've given them to do. And we love
you in Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen.
Thank you for that. So let's start off with you
loved being a nurse anesthetist and God redirected
you to share testimonies on a podcast. Can you
share a bit about the journey from nursing to
podcasting and ministry? Because everyone comes
to the podcasting world differently. So let's
hear about like how God led you to this world.
Yes, it's a long journey. There's a lot more,
actually, that's not in the book, but yeah, you
know, it's funny. There's that verse in Proverbs,
I think it's 16 nine that says, a man makes his
plans and God God directs the steps and establishes
them, right? One guest could have, you want to
make God laugh, plan out your life. Tell them
your plans. Yeah. So I never really found my
thing until I became a nurse anesthetist. It
was the first and only thing that I felt like
I actually did well. And I worked really hard.
It didn't come easy. It was something I had to
earn to and really work at. And I was really
kind of in the prime of my life, maybe 45 years
old when this happened. And I loved doing anesthesia.
And I really felt like the Lord was using me
in my role. I mean, my faith was, I thought,
somewhat strong at the time. And I would walk
down the hallways to see my next patient. And,
you know, in the OR, we're really busy. So you
don't always rarely have time to pray with patients,
but sometimes you do. And I would pray, Lord,
give me the words for this next patient. you
know, to help give them peace and just to comfort
them. And sometimes I would have time to actually
do ministry at work, but it was rare. But I loved
my job. And then there was a day in the OR, I
don't remember the date, and I wish I had journaled
it. But it was the first time, Shelley, that
I really heard the voice of God. And I didn't
know it was them. But I had intubated a patient.
I still remember this. And this is really the
first little step in the journey where things
started to change. I had intubated a patient.
Everything was going so smoothly. just I was
in like a flow state, you know, like in my zone
of anesthesia, loving my job and not every day
was like that. Some days were hard, but I think
it's significant that everything was going so
smoothly. And I was actually really content.
I turned to put my blade away and I could still
see the scene when I heard so clearly in my head,
this part of your life is over. And it was stated
with authority, certainty, calmness. You're probably
like, wait, what? Yeah, that's about... It broke
my heart. Like, my heart just sank. And it was
like, what? Like, it wasn't audible, but it could
have been. It was that clear. It was that definite
to me. And I was confused. And I even thought
for a moment, like, did I eat something weird?
Why would I have this thought? And I remember
just that... that statement. And I knew it meant
anesthesia, you're done. Like I knew that's what
it meant. It was so I went home to my husband
and I kept saying to him, I'm like, why would
I think that? It just doesn't make sense. It
doesn't make sense. And the book that I wrote,
I joke, you know, a good Christian girl would
have gone straight to the office and turned and
will finish the case and then turned in her resignation
at the end of the day. You know, God's calling
me elsewhere, but I didn't even know he was talking
to me. And I guess it was, it was months later.
that I sustained an injury to my neck. It was
a life -threatening injury. It's controversial.
I have nothing against this group of individuals.
They're wonderful people, but it's my belief
that a neck adjustment by my chiropractor who
I loved dearly caused a serious injury to me.
I ended up in intensive care. There were two
arteries to my brain that were dissected. and
I had an aneurysm just next to the area he was
adjusting, and it was a very vigorous adjustment.
So I don't mean to scare anyone. And again, this
is my opinion, and it is a known risk. And they
don't tell you about it? Well, some of them do.
Some of them do. Some of them, it's on the consent
form that you sign, you know, all the forms we
sign. I mean, that's pretty easy, right? Some
of them don't, because I actually, in that rough
year, I went around to some offices and said,
I pretended to sign up just to see their consent
form. and tell them, you know, of course I would
never go in and have one touch me again. But
anyway, it ended up putting me in an ambulance.
They didn't know if I was going to make it. I
had some small strokes and it was a very scary
time. But in the ambulance, there was a very
critical moment where I realized that I may not
survive. I heard the ambulance driver talking
to the paramedic. And they were saying, you know,
we can't hit any bumps. We can't hit any potholes.
This has to be a very smooth ride. And I could
hear the seriousness of their tone. And at the
same time, I'm Googling on my phone, of course,
Dr. Google, we all use, you know, and now I guess
it's chat, right? But I was Googling like prognosis
for bilateral vertebral artery dissection. And
the first thing that popped up was for those
that survive. and then I was reading you know
I just like oh my gosh put the phone down like
but what happens is with a vertebral artery dissection
you have an injury basically your artery has
three layers to it and the layers rip apart from
one another and you they can collapse down and
kind of form a block where you're not getting
any oxygen to the back of the brain called an
anoxic brain injury, or you can have a little,
a clot that is forming to try to heal what the
body sees as an injury and the clock gets bigger
and bigger and bigger. And then once it gets
so big, it can go straight to your brain and
it can kill you. Typically, most cases you have
a stroke and most people have to recover or they
may have permanent damage. They may not, but
this is where I was. And in that moment, I called
out to God. I cried out to God. I said, Lord,
You know, I don't want to die. You know, I have
a five and seven year old. I have my husband.
I have this career. You know, I feel like I'm
working with you. Like, you know, I, I'm not
ready to die. And I really feel like my spirit,
you know, our salvation is not through works
with Jesus. He did all of that on the cross.
It's, it's by grace through faith. So I knew
that, but I somehow knew like I had more on this
earth to do. And, you know, Ephesians 2 10 says,
you know, he has works for us, made in advance,
you know, so we're not saved by works, but he
does have a plan for us. And Jeremiah 29 11,
you know, have a plan and a purpose. And anyway,
I knew I wasn't ready to go. And so I pleaded
with him and I said, well, please let me share
you with just one more person. I don't want to
die. You know, just please. And, you know, in
that moment, I just printed out a Bible verse
that you'd like, actually, it was a day before
the adjustment. I didn't realize that until like
eight months later. You know how things pop up
and you notice the date on that time stamp when
you took that picture. It's like, oh, my gosh,
that's right before I had the adjustment. I printed
out Isaiah 41 10, and I put it in a frame. And
that verse says, do not fear for I am with you.
Do not be dismayed for I am your God. I pulled
you with my right hand. That part was in the
picture, but I think Shelley, it was like the
first verse I ever printed out and framed in
my home. I was not an on fire Christian, but
I had printed that verse out and for some reason
it just stuck out at me and I had it by my computer
and every day I looked at it and I read it and
I was like, I just love that. I just love that.
And in that moment where I was crying out in
panic. I closed my eyes with tears after I heard
them say that. And I realized like, I might not,
I may not go home. I might be needing Jesus.
You know, I closed my eyes with tears. And in
that moment, it was like, boom, there's that
verse, do not fear for I am with thee, you know,
and I could see it. And I wasn't trying to recall
it. I wasn't even thinking about it. I know that
was sent to me. It's just a little ways that
God works. So amazing. You sit back and you see
the pictures after the fact. Sometimes we kind
of see it, but I ended up in ICU for three days
and they ran all kinds of tests on me. I did
not have to have surgery or anything like that.
But when I left the hospital, they did tell me
you could still have a stroke or the aneurysm
probably won't rupture. And that's 90 days. They
said I could still have a stroke. I had to deal
with pain. The strokes luckily were transient,
which means they didn't have any permanent effects.
It's kind of miraculous. I could have been paralyzed.
I could have died. There are people that have
died from just one vertebral artery dissection.
And there was just another woman in People magazine
just now, recently people, all these kinds of
people are sending that to me. And I'm like,
I know, I just wish they would stop doing that
one piece of the treatment. They have different
ways they can adjust the neck. I'm not out to
get chiropractors. My story is not about that.
And I honestly hate that it's part of the story
because I've never met one that I didn't like.
And I know they're just trying to help people,
you know, and there are good things they can
do. So just for the record, I want to get that
out there. But that was a big part of the journey.
And I had a really tough year, which I'm embarrassed
to say, because I feel like I had this amazing
physical healing miracle where I left ICU without
any issue, basically, other than pain. And that
resolved. And over time, I had to go home on,
you know, aspirin therapy, which big deal. I
get to, I can't ride roller coasters. I get to
see my kids blow out their candles on their cake
every year. You know, I'm still here. And God
has really blessed me, but I struggled because
I reached out to the person who I felt caused
the injury and I was crying after I got out of
the ICU. And I told him, I said, you know, I
don't know how to tell you this, but I just got
the intensive care. And I believe this is what
I really believe this caused what you did caused
it because I didn't have this pain before. I
had like a kink in my neck and it was C2, which
is higher risk. But long and short of it, I told
him, I'm not litigious. I want to bring in all
my records. I want to help prevent this from
happening again. Find the silver lining. I know
that you didn't need to do this to me. You're
trying to help me. And he did say on the phone,
he's like, oh, I'm so sorry this happened to
you, and that he never responded after that to
my emails or my requests to come in. He did not
want to see me. And I've heard that the lawyers
sometimes will say don't. talk to them. So maybe
he was advised, I know he cared. I know he did.
But I was so hurt by that. And then soon after
I ended up being told I'm disabled for my job,
which had nothing to do with the neck adjustment.
That was because of my spine issues, which led
me to see him in the first place. But just to
be clear, but there were so many things happening
to I had a falling out with a best friend who
was so dear to me. That was heartbreaking. I
and losing my job, you know, But the doctors
just said, you're disabled. That was very difficult.
So I just got stuck in the injustice of all of
it. And God had, God was so patient and so kind.
And, you know, He sent this woman to me, to my
door in my neighborhood who was, she was training
to be a life coach. And she worked in E -Kids
at church, and my son kept forgetting his little
kid Bible every time he would leave it. So Carla
would come over and she would always say, Julie,
I really, you know, I'd love for you to join
this Bible study. And I was isolating myself,
which you don't want to do. That's what the enemy
wants. Oh, he so wants that because I couldn't
be. my normal self, I was so angry and I was
becoming bitter. And I really learned in that
year, just sum it up. Number one, one thing I
did right. I never stopped talking to God. You
know, I had never prayed ugly prayers before.
I don't know if you know what I'm talking about,
but you know, my prayers are always buttoned
up, like he's holy and you know. Oh yeah. No,
no. Him and I have gotten a few ugly, ugly prayer
sessions. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm actually going
to do a video on this because he's really leading
me to another one too, because I don't want to
think about how that day went. It was so not
me, but I was trying to hold it all in and hold
it together. And I had seen a different chiropractor
to ask to just try to get some answers. And I
remember going back to my car and just crying
out to God. Like, and it hit me like, okay, he
already knows how I feel. He's all knowing, right?
So it's not like he doesn't know I'm angry and
bitter and ticked off. So I couldn't help it.
I had a complete breakdown in the parking lot
in my car. And I remember crying out to God,
you know, seriously, God, like, and I knew he
had saved me. I knew he had protected me, but
I wasn't hearing anything from him. I felt like
he wasn't there. And I knew all these doors that
were closing in my life, relationships and my
job and different things that were happening,
were happening for a reason, but I didn't know
what was next. And I remember saying, God, Romans
8 .28, you know, you work all things together
for the good of those who are called, who loved
him and are called to his focus. I'm probably
paraphrasing that, but you know, I'm like, seriously,
God, how are you gonna use this for good? And
I just washed it. And I was just like, I don't
understand. I can't hear you. Fuck Christ. You
know, back in that moment. And you know, I think,
I just remember breaking down in that parking
lot, just bawling. And I was like, I'm just going
to choose to trust you. You know, I just have
to believe. I don't see it. I don't see it at
all. And you know, and I know this sounds silly.
There are people that... are traffic. There are
people that horrible things happen to you. I
know this was like a bad neck adjustment in the
big picture, but this was my life at the time.
And I felt like, you know, this has ruined my
plan for my life and partially related to the
job too. But anyway, God would answer that prayer
years later, because even though I had forgotten
about that ambulance prayer, and asking God,
you know, let me share you with one more person.
I think it was that year I ended up going to
the Bible study, which they're sharing. They
were covering Beth Moore's revelation study.
I'm like, oh, great. The apocalypse. This is
going to be awesome. You know, and they were
so sweet. The women, they were like, it's the
revelation of Jesus. They were just amazing.
And they prayed like spiritual prayers, which
I wasn't familiar with. And for some reason,
I would sit in that room and I would just cry.
and Shelley and Josh, I got my, found my Bible
because I wasn't in it. And all the pages, like
it was dusty. I think I had like, you know, all
the pages were like stuck together because I
never opened it. It was so embarrassing. And
all of their Bibles were like post -noted, you
know, from A to Z and worn and highlighted and
tattered. And, and, but you know what? They never
made me feel bad. Yeah, you have to, and that,
I'm telling you, go into that Bible study and
would have preferred maybe John or Acts instead
of Reveille. But I learned a lot, you know, and
that they loved on me. They loved on me. And
I remember the first day that I went, I was just
going to just shut her up. It really was. And
then she was a life coach. She had to get her
hours, you know, free hours. She would have to
get so many hours. And I'm like, Carla, you do
not want, to unleash. What is it here? It is
the hardest earned hours you could probably get.
I'm just mad. You know, and so she said, Julie,
no, you're doing me a favor. God just showed
up for me through Carla. He showed up for me
through those women. And when I would hear those
prayers, I remember they would say, Julie, you
haven't said anything. And I said, you know,
I don't even feel worthy of even being here right
now. And I just was very transparent, but something
happened that year. And God taught me the importance
of community. And because we do want to withdraw
when we feel ugly and we can't, you know, we
can't be that warm, bubbly person, positive.
I was always that bubbly, positive person. And
I don't want people to see me that way. So he
brought me, I learned about community. Also in
the Bible it said, this is really hard when you're
mad, said, pray for your enemies, you know, and
he wasn't an enemy. that I felt, I even reached
out to DC, to this chiropractic research group
to just give them my records. And nope, I didn't
want anything to do with me. They didn't care.
They didn't even respond. And I told them what
happened. So I learned about that, but I learned,
I prayed for him. And my first prayers were so
bad. It was like, oh, okay, I'm going to pray
for him because he is so bad. And I'm sure Jesus
was up there like, oh my goodness, my daughter,
you know, but I kept going. I kept going. And
then, you know, I would cry out to God, my ugly
cries, prayers. And I'm like, I know I'm supposed
to forgive, but I just don't know how. I'm so
mad. And I remember a girl in Bible study just
telling me bluntly, she's like, forgiveness is
just a decision you have to make. You know, and
that was, I needed to hear that. So I would just
say it and I would put a post -it note on my
mirror in my bathroom. You know, I forgive him.
I forgive him. I'd be like, Lord, help me feel
it. You know, and I prayed. Yeah. And then I
remember there was a moment where I was going
up to, I was in my car driving and I pulled up
to an intersection. And as I kept just crying
out to God for help, help, help. I was sitting
in an intersection in front of a church and there
was a cross. And I remember seeing the cross
and in my right ear was, I don't even know if
it could have been a whisper. Because I can't
say definitively I've heard God audibly, but
I hear Him in my head and I feel impressions
of my spirit. And He talks in all kinds of ways.
So for me, that's how it works. But as I was
asking for help, I'm sitting and I see this cross
in my sight, not even thinking, I'm just waiting
for the light to change. And I hear in my right
ear, you know, the feeling was, I know this is
hard for you, this whole situation, but it was
just an accident. It was a bad accident. And
I'm looking at the cross. And in that moment,
I just have this, and I don't think this was
a supernatural vision. It may have just been
a thought that I had, but I just had this thought
of Jesus hanging on the cross on purpose, maliciously
being murdered in the worst possible way. The
biggest injustice that's ever happened on earth,
the most perfect person. So love itself, the
embodiment of love is being ripped, you know,
just as being crucified. And what did he do in
the middle of it? He forgave them in the middle
of it. And it just gave me like, I just started,
I just had tears and I was like, just Lord, forgive
me. you know, please, I'm so sorry, you know,
and it started to shift things. And over time,
you know, he really did teach me about forgiveness
that year, but going forward to the podcast,
it was the third year where I was at an event
with my husband and I'm still in a better place,
much better place. There was a lot of healing
that had to be done. And I'm just helping my
husband out with something at a work event in
California. And we're at this event and I had
a vision and it was funny. I had never really
had a vision like that before. There was one,
but this was different. And I didn't even know
it was a vision, just like I didn't know God
was speaking to me. I didn't know I had a vision,
but I was sitting there in the conference and
they had this thing, these things upon the wall,
all across the wall that were how to grow your
business. And one of the words, I don't even
know the other words, you guys, because all I
saw on the wall was podcast. And it was like
a spotlight was on it. It was the only, and I
thought, oh my gosh, that's what I'm supposed
to do. This was October, 2018. How long ago from
the prayer and the ambulance to that had it been?
Three years and three months. Cause it was July
3rd that my accident happened in 2015. And it
was late, the end of October 2015 was my accident.
And then 2018 was division. And I see podcast
and I don't even listen to podcasts. I can't
explain it. I've never been more sure. And I'm
like, because then it's not just my testimony.
It's yours and Josh's and this person. And I
turn, because we're in these breakout groups.
I'm like, I have to tell my husband. So I go
to tell my husband. And I'm trying to find him
frantically. I'm so excited because I just know
that I know that I know. And as I turn, to the
back wall of this huge conference center there's
a big blank wall and boom all of a sudden it
was like an invisible hand wielded like a piece
of chalk or a pencil there was no color at all
it wasn't like this grand ezekiel vision it was
very flat but It was powerful. It yielded this
pencil and it went side to side, back and forth.
And it was drawing like stones or slabs, like
these rectangular slabs that were stacking quickly
in front of me. And it just kept going higher
and higher and went fast. As the stones were
stacking, this is gonna sound crazy. I knew these
were testimonies. Each one of these stones was
a testimony of someone, a different type of testimony,
a different miracle, a different person, different
places, all kinds of things. And it all built
this monument and went straight up in through
the clouds. I couldn't see the top of it. And
just before it disappeared, the whole thing lit
up really quickly and it was giving glory to
God and it was giving people hope. And I was
like, Oh my goodness, this is amazing. And the
meaning of it, the feeling of what it meant was
so much stronger than what I saw visually. I
don't know how to explain this, but it was your
heart. Yeah, it was in my, it was a spiritual
thing. And I, I'm like, oh my, and then I was
just on fire. I could not stop talking about
it. And, um, you know, I guess it was, gosh,
that was, I started it on Christmas day, 2018.
There's a lot that happened. I almost chickened
out when I got home because it was like, I don't
even I don't really know how to do any of this.
And I'm like, Lord, I don't, and I definitely
didn't want to do YouTube. But fast forward,
it's been almost seven years. I have shared miracles
and testimonies of you name it. I've probably
shared it. If you can conceive of a testimony
from different continents, I've had people come
on and I have several platforms now that have
shared. my content, and so I don't even really
know the downloads, but I know my YouTube channel,
I think I'm approaching two million views on
my YouTube channel, but I know over a year ago,
I think I spoke at a conference, it's been over
a year now. had to add up my views. And I think
it was like over five to eight million or something
like that. I don't know, but like it's all Him.
It's all Him. And usually, and not everybody
likes it. Not everyone likes it, but you know,
that's the beauty of it because God is using
that and striking a nerve in someone. They're
hearing His name. You know, they're hearing something
He's going to use. It's a seed planted. So I
actually rejoice. You know, I don't like it when
people talk about my big head, but, you know,
and I'm in my 50s. I've had better years for
me than this. But God is so amazing. And I know
last year, we were watching something and Glenn
Beck came on and he stated a quote that Billy
Graham said before he died that I put in the
book that really blew my mind. I wasn't expecting
this. A four day headache had me desperate. Then
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back to more of God's goodness. And Glenn Beck
was talking to Billy Graham before Billy Graham
was passing. I don't remember how imminent it
was, but it was in the last part of his life.
And he was distressed. Glenn was about the state
of the world. And he's like, Billy, who's going
to be the next Billy Graham? Who's going to be
the next George Washington? We're losing all
these people who've been a big part of the faith.
And Billy Graham chuckled. And he said, Oh, it's
not going to work that way this time. He says,
God, it's tired of people like me getting His
glory. And God is going to do a move through
regular people that are called to do something
they don't understand. They don't feel like it's
going to matter. He's like, they don't think
they can do it. He said, but if every person
who's called to do just the one thing God's calling
them to do. it's going to make a ripple effect,
a mosaic will form across the earth that everyone
will know it could only be God. And my husband
heard that and he said, honey, that's you. He's
talking about you. We played it again. And it
just hit me all of a sudden, these moments of
my journey, like, hearing God for the first time
saying this part of your life is over, the moment
in the ambulance, God, let me share you with
one more person. And then fast forward, I had
forgotten about the prayer, you guys, fast forward,
I'm doing a podcast and I didn't even know I
had analytics for the first eight months. You
know, I don't even know what I'm doing. And yet
people, God is using it and he's sending to people.
And then something really cool that he did that
I didn't catch right away. My kids had to go
across town like years after I had that moment
in the parking lot. They had to go across town
for testing at some facilities. So I drove them
and I'm waiting in the car and I'm kind of bored
and I'm looking at my phone and I thought, you
know, check my intake, my mailbox for the podcast.
And as I'm sitting there, I'm in tears at what
I'm reading, how God has used testimonies. And
usually it's nothing. It's not my knowledge of
theology. I have no theology degree. I'm not
an expert. I don't have the Bible memorized.
You know, I often have to Google what verse was
that, you know, and find it. So I'm not anyone
that you would pick to do ministry. I'm sitting
there in the car and I'm weeping. One person
had, she was near, you know, taking her life,
you know, and she found an episode and this,
I can't tell you how this, how I needed this.
And God sent this to me and over, and there were
several that I was sitting in the car reading.
And as I'm crying, I look up and I'm like, this
looks familiar. This place looks familiar. I
didn't realize that I was sitting in this thing.
like in maybe the same spot, it might've been
the one next to it, but I was sitting in the
same spot years earlier where I cried out to
God and I said, oh, are you gonna use this seriously,
God? Like how? You know, and 20 years later,
he's showing me. He's like, this is how. I was
just like, oh my God, thank you so much. Thank
you, I had no idea. Yeah. And so, you know, I
want people, I'm pretty vulnerable in the book
about my journey because there were times I just
was, I was like, I'm not good enough. I can't
do this. I, you know, I try, I actually tried
to chicken out and the way he worked, there's
some funny parts to the book, but, you know,
the people he has sent to me and let me share
this because it's really important and I don't
want people to miss out on this. A critical part
of my journey that made all this happen. and
had me find this place of healing with my full
surrender of my life. So powerful. I've never
done that. I grew up in a Christian household
my whole life. I had a brief falling away after
a professor in college told me, you know, it's
not real and all these things. And there were
some other traumas that kind of, I wasn't in
a great place when I had that happen. So the
devil set that all up. Oh yeah, that not real
did a lot of good things in your life. Oh, it
was a horror. It was a very, it was a lonely
time, a dead time in my life when I look back
on that. And there was an moment in the ICU and
I saw that's another big part of my story. People
love if you want me to finish with that. But,
you know, here I was 45 years old and I was really
a casual Christian. thinking, you know, I go
to church on Sunday. Okay. I don't know where
my Bible even is. Like, you know, and by lunch
happens, by the time lunch happens, I had forgotten
what the sermon was about. You know, I wasn't
really. Yeah, I was very lukewarm. You know,
I remember my dating life was a disaster. You
know, everyone had potential. You know, that's
great if you're flipping homes, but not when
you're dating. And, you know, so I finally got
to the point where it was like, you know, and
my broke and all my like nodded Christmas lights.
You know, I think I said that with Jen Lee's
episode. That's how I would hear, Lord, I surrender
this mess to you. He's like, okay, thank you.
But when I got out of the ICU and I got home,
that is one thing I want people to hear. it's
so important because I don't think any of this
would have happened without that surrender. I
got to a place where I realized, okay, maybe
people hearing about what God has done through
all of this is more important than... me trying
to save the world from getting their neck chopped.
You know, and I was so stuck up and stuck in
that righteous anger. And I just got down on
my knees on my bedroom floor. And I just remember
crying out to God and I said, Lord, I don't deserve,
you know, I don't know why you saved me, but
I thank you that you did. I thank you that you
love me. I surrender my entire life. Everything
that I have the rest of my life is all. yours.
I'll do anything you want me to do. I'll go to
Africa. I'll sell this ring on my finger, which,
you know, it's, it's not a huge value, but it's
like sentimental, you know, my wedding ring.
I said, anything I give you my entire life. And
when I did that, that is when it's so opposite
because you want to control things that are like,
you know, and we want God to act the way we want
him to act. You know, but it's scary to say,
Lord, just take it all. Take it all. And you
don't know what it's going to look like. But
I have to say that is when I started hearing
God speak to me slowly. I didn't have this wind
and this big supernatural experience. And some
people in podcasts do. I didn't have that. It
was a process of reading in the Bible. And, you
know, and my gifts started. download in a parking
lot with a homeless man. I'm like, I don't even
know what just happened to me. I think something's
going on in my microbiome, because I just knew
things I shouldn't have known. I didn't even
understand what was happening, but that was a
product of full surrender to God. And even when
I started the podcast, in the beginning, it was
like, well, I'm going to do a good job for you,
God. I was planning it all out. And it was all
falling apart. And all these people that I thought
were going to be so great didn't want to come
on. And it was like, oh, I got humbled really
quickly. And I just said, OK, Lord, I know you
called me to do this. And I just opened my hands
and I said, this is yours. I said, would you
show me what you want? Would you lead me? Please
lead me. And I initially heard nothing. And I
was just like, I felt so deflated because I had
this amazing, like I just knew that's what it
was. And I remember going to get my hair done
in the hair salon. That was my first desk that
I got. My hairdresser was like, so tell me about
this pack. I said, I didn't want to talk about
it because I was just so like hopeless in the
moment. I said, yeah, I'm going to share miracles
that glorify God. And I was talking kind of loud
because the head was there rinsing the color
out of my hair. And there was only one woman
that was in the salon other than me that was
a client. And she was also getting her hair rinsed
out. And she yells out from the sink, I have
a miracle testimony. And Emily did. She had an
amazing miracle testimony. And we talked after,
I was just kind of like, what? And God started
leading me one by one in the craziest ways. And
I actually missed that part. Because now I have
so many people reaching out. I can't even do
it all. And I wish I could. You know, but I just,
but now He sends them our way. We go for referrals.
Yeah. But you know, it was so amazing. And even
my husband witnessed it. He's like, if I didn't
see it, I wouldn't believe it. I'm like, yeah,
this is God. And it was like me and the Holy
Spirit, you know, just like, okay, Lord. And
I would each and, and you know what was so fun?
I would pray and hit the button and it really
wasn't resting on me. at all. And that was such
a relief because the guest had such an amazing
miracle. And I would interject and hopefully
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tell you, it's changed everything in my life.
Number one, I feel like I'm learning more and
more about the heart of who God really is. And
I'm blown away. And the power of our prayer.
Oh, my goodness. And you see so many themes in
all these testimonies and faith. You know, some
people can get healed with somebody else praying
over them, you know, their faith. I have Meg
and Brian. Brian was a paralyzed police officer.
He was unilaterally paralyzed and broke his neck
in a work injury. Lost everything on one side
of his body and in 10 years he struggled. I mean,
it was horrible. He even asked God, just take
me. He had muscle spasms, migraines. At one point,
he was going to be completely paralyzed. He fell
and had surgeries. And he did get this brace
for his leg that was a mechanical brace. He'd
swing his leg over and put it in the brace so
he could walk with a brace, which is kind of
a miracle itself. But he got healed at a... a
conference that his wife bribed him to go to.
She had so much faith that he would be healed.
And that encourages me as a mom praying over
my children. You know, you have people in your
life that you're praying for, whether it's in
-laws or friends or coworkers. Let me tell you,
there's power in your prayer for your faith for
that person to get what they need and see what
God did. You know, she actually said, this is
my birthday. This is my Christmas and Mother's
Day. If you just go, God's going to hear me.
And he was just like, I'm tired of people praying
for me. That's where he was. And he has an amazing
testimony. And when they first re -judged me,
I'm like, tough records for this, like it sounds
so crazy. They had video and now they're on,
they're in that new documentary. And you know,
I was one of the first people to ever share their
story. I think they shared it at their church
and it's mind boggling to me. I have no idea.
I would be sharing the stuff that I'm sharing
and I just want people to see God really does
use people that the world. may not choose, you
know, what is that one scripture? He uses the
foolish to confound the wise. I can't remember
where that's at. Like I said, I'm not an expert,
but He really does. He really does. And so, I
hope it encourages people, you know, just reading
the different stories. Oh, man, there's nothing
you're facing that's too big for Him. Nothing.
And He can use you. I love at the very beginning
of your story that you heard from God. that he
said, you weren't going to be doing this. And
you were like, no, I must have ate something
funny. And then he removed you from it. Right.
He gave you he gave you an idea of what was going
to happen. And you did not accept it. And it
still happened. Yeah. Which because that's what
he does. He has a good he's good at that He's
very good at moving us from point a to point
B, especially for dragging our feet You know
that poem footprints, you know why I only saw
one set here is where he carried you Well, sometimes
you'll see deep gouges where he dragged you kicking
and screaming And that's okay because he's our
creator and he knows how to do this lovingly
with us And I know that the take on forgiveness
a lot of people struggle with because people
feel that that because they're still angry or
because they're still sad or because they don't
trust the person that they can't forgive them.
And that literally has nothing to do with it.
It is everything about saying that I reserve
judgment for God. I am not going to be the one
that punishes you. And that is what forgiveness
in God's eyes is, is I remove my hands from this
person's throat. I remove myself from being the
one that has to see this guy suffer. And that's
where forgiveness comes from. It doesn't mean
that you trust this person. It doesn't mean you're
not angry about what happened. It doesn't mean
that you're not upset in any way. It just means
that you remove the burden of responsibility
from yourself and place it squarely on the judge's
shoulders. Yeah. You mentioned themes and the
surrender is the thing that stuck out to me because
when you give God that full surrender, the Episode
we recorded last week. That was when she got
healed completely of ms And I shared with her
that when I was in the I can't do this anymore
I was healed of 17 years of chronic neck and
shoulder pain So that full surrender is where
God can step in and move in the miraculous and
then change everything And I think our whole
family was in desperation when our son had OCD
that was Crippling OCD and we prayed over him
and he's been OCD free this three years now.
Mm -hmm Wow Yeah, you know it feels like you
are You're giving up something that really you're
allowing him To take total control and he will
he has such a better plan for you You know and
it can feel scary, but that's the key I praise
god for what he did in your family. That's amazing.
He's always been pretty good to us. He knows
that i'm a knucklehead We're all knuckleheads.
I I can't tell you many times I have prayed,
you know, forgive me lord for I am evil and stupid
and I I swear to you his answer has always been
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I'd love to connect with you. Speaking of this,
I think a lot of people don't typically get closure
on these things. Maybe you have a parent that
passes away before you ever reconcile here on
this side of heaven. But in this situation, I
mentioned that it wasn't my first vision. The
first vision I had, it was strange. I was waking
up and I saw on the wall when I woke up, Miracle
at Exxon. And then it was like a newspaper heading
and it disappeared. And I'm like, what in the
world was that? Exxon, like why am I supposed
to be like, I didn't know what that meant at
all. Yeah, I think of gas station. Yeah, yeah.
Well, it was a year. It took me a year to forgive
that guy. I'm not proud of that. It took me a
year and I could still get triggered. Some might
say that's quick. Well, yeah, I guess. Yeah,
but but it took me a full year and I remember.
I had to be in Bible study and I hadn't talked
about it in a long time. And then my Bible, we
had a wonderful morning and I didn't say anything.
And then my friend texted me later that day and
she said, you know, I didn't ask you, how are
you doing with everything? And, and I said, you
know, I just, I didn't want to take over the
study and talk about it. And, and I said, you
know, I really feel like I truly have forgiven.
And I said, I'm just so grateful. I'm so that
was another thing. And I had to focus my mind
on what I was grateful for. And that would help
take me out of the anger. Even if it's just like
clean water, shelves are like, just make it,
take every thought captive. You know, that's
what that means. You know, I'm going to be grateful.
And I told her, I said, I've forgiven. I really
have. And it feels good. And I said, I know that
God has a plan and I'm trusting it and I'm just
in a better place. And then I left the house
within five minutes. I'm face to face with my
chiropractor at a gas station. It's the only
time I've seen him since this happened and I
saw him first and I'm not gonna lie to you After
just saying that and I have was playing worship
music and praising God and it was a beautiful
day and here I am like I see him and suddenly
it's like I don't know if I'm gonna throat punch
him Hug him or just sit here and cry like my
bottom lip was crib. I was like, oh my goodness
I couldn't believe my visceral reaction And I
said, Holy Spirit, I need you right now. I need
you. And I had one voice on one shoulder saying,
don't do this. You're going to mess this up.
You've come so far. And I didn't know which voice
was which. I was just a mess. And I decided to
go up to him and I thought, I don't even know
if it's still inside or not. I thought, I'm going
to go and just trust God. And I went up and I
fallen. And he was like, Julie, he was shocked
to see me. And I was honest with him. I said,
hi. I was trying so hard not to cry. I did not
throat punch him. Thank God. But I just said,
I spoke from my heart, like the Bible says. And
I said, can I talk to you for a second? And I
said, I really can't tell you what this last
year has been like for me. And I said, but I
just want to tell you that I forgive you. And
I said, I do feel like, You caused that injury
to me and and I wanted to come in the office
and I felt like that would be very therapeutic
for me to be able to use it for something good
and Maybe somebody could learn something else
and I thought it would be healing I said that
I was really hurt when you didn't respond and
Lo and behold two days later We're in his office
talking and one thing you told me is it was we
were leaving and I won't share all of that Conversation
because it's private but I will say I was very
surprised at what he said But when I was leaving,
he said, you know what's crazy? He's like, I
wish we could have had this conversation a year
ago. And I was like, oh, no, no, no. That's exactly
how it was supposed to be. And he said, you know
what's crazy? He's like, I didn't need gas. I'm
like, what do you mean? He goes, I had three
quarters of the tank. I have no idea why I stopped
that day. And I remember, I didn't tell you the
best part. When I was leaving that first meeting
after we first talked, I looked up. and it was
an exhalation. And I'm telling you, God, I don't
know, I think He's just reminding us, hey, I'm
in this, you know, like, why get that sign before?
I don't know, you know, but... And I wish everybody
could have that moment. I can't tell you it was,
and I don't, maybe it was a reward. I was being
blessed with that moment because I prayed for
him and it was my obedience, you know, and, and
I was trying and he saw me in that. I don't know,
but to get that was really a cool blessing. A
closure. Yeah. Yeah. Clearly God wanted you to
have that. He needs you to experience that moment.
And he wanted to call your attention to that
was a good moment for you. Yeah, so much so that
he called it a miracle Yeah Yeah, he's in all
the little details and he is there Wow It's interesting
because We don't often know what we're supposed
to do when we're called to do something But if
we take one step at a time, he'll reveal the
next step to take Yes, like with podcasting.
No one knows what they're doing They go to YouTube
University to see how to do it and everyone ends
up doing it differently It just however the Holy
Spirit reveals it to them. Well, if you're a
Christian anyway Well, you think about that verse,
you know lamp unto my feet, you know, it only
illuminates the next cut And I think honestly,
if we saw the whole plan, we would be like, oh,
no way. We would be overwhelmed. But it's like
a big adventure. And it's really exciting. And
it gives you that boost of encouragement to do
the next step and see what else happens next.
Oh, yeah. It is exciting. It really is. It is.
He is in the details. I was releasing a video
this week. Well, we released an episode and I
found out her birthday was that week and I was
like, that's so cool. And then conveniently her
husband, we released his episode earlier this
year and it was released on his birthday. And
so God worked it all out that we recorded in
such a way that it released on their birthday
weeks. And it was just really neat that God did
that for them. And it was just really cool. Oh,
yeah, He's in all those details. So yeah, I hope
that people can get a couple of things from what
I've shared today that would encourage them if
they're having a hard time forgiving or maybe
they're being called to do something and they
feel like, I don't have what it takes. You don't
need to. He's going to give it to you. You just
have to take the first step. Yeah. Yeah. No,
a lot of good content there. You know, be okay
with being ugly with God. He knows your heart.
I mean, it's foolish to try to hold back. And,
you know, he wants the intimate relationship
with us. And if he knows we're hurting and we
got the big feels and we come to want the little
feels, he knows we're holding back. We're only
trying to fool ourselves. You know, and then,
and sometimes it is ugly for us. Sometimes we
are going through something. Sometimes it isn't
pretty. Sometimes it's painful. And that doesn't
mean that God is not with us, even if he feels
far away. I like to think of it like a painter.
You know when they're painting and they're they're
painting up clothes and they can't really see
the whole painting because they're so close to
it But when they take a step back, they realize
what they have I think it's a matter of perspective
and we feel that god is not with us. It's because
he is around us completely And we can't see him
because he is smothering our vision with himself
And it's hard for us to see that because we're
not used to someone being there in our most vulnerable
points We're not used to people loving us through
the ugliness that we are Yeah, so good. I hope
people felt the Holy Spirit like I did I was
in tears half the time Because it just it's just
a warm looks like a warm hug from heaven. I love
it My husband was laughing at me Looking for
the tissues. I'm like I already have one She
has moved to tears by the Holy Spirit often and
I am not But what I am it's over like the silliest
things that I can't explain and it's so weird
I work on any I'm an ambulance driver. So when
you were all your little story I know I was keeping
up with it My wife is getting like weird looks
because she didn't understand all the things
but I was like, no I get it Right down to the
part where I love being called an ambulance driver
Yeah So where can people find you and your book
because that's good stuff Oh, yeah, I'm everywhere.
I'm on YouTube, Everyday Miracles podcast. I'm
also on Spotify and all the podcast sites. Yeah,
and the book is on Amazon. I think it's Burns
and Noble. You can get it there too. It's called
Everyday Miracles, and it's got 32 amazing testimonies.
And then it has my, at the end, there's like
steps to grow your faith. There's a, you know,
you can make a decision to accept Jesus and more.
It's got a lot of different things. of areas
for reflection after each testimony to think
about your own life, whatever theme was in that
story. So it's really, people seem to really
love it right now. It's exciting to see people
get it in their hands. So it's been a joy. It's
all Him. He gets all the glory. Yeah. Praise
God for that. So do you have a Bible verse that
anchored you through all that in your life? Yes,
Isaiah 41, 10, like I said, so do not fear for
I am with you. Do not be dismayed for I am your
God. It's just a reminder that whatever we face,
and that's the first part of it, but it's just
a reminder that no matter what we face, He's
got us. And you just, I don't know, He's with
us. Just to back you up. You don't have to know
the verse in the chapter and the book it's in
necessarily as long as you know that it's in
the bible That is what you're judged by like
even jesus when he challenged the devil back.
He said it is written He didn't say where it
was written. He didn't say which prophet wrote
it Just that it was there that it was written.
That's that's what's important that you know
Yeah, it's in your heart and i'm not saying for
those people that know chapter and verse that
they're wrong I'm just saying that is like extra
credit. You don't get the extra credit. You got
the five gold stars, but you only need the one
gold star. And just knowing that it's in the
Bible is your one gold star. Yeah. Thank you.
Well, thank you for coming on, Julie. This has
been amazing. Well, thanks for having me. It's
been an honor. Yeah. We really appreciate you
sharing your story, the miracles that it is.
I don't know if like people can Google some of
the things that you had to go through and what
you actually did. You know being a nurse and
anesthetist you get paid to watch people sleep
And intubating people which is putting an airway
into somebody which is it can be a dangerous
thing to do You know and the downfall that you
went through the anger that you felt that the
complete and utter lifestyle shift that you went
through after hardship, especially Is an amazing
testimony of god's goodness in your life an amazing
testimony that He has a plan and a purpose for
you. He has one for everybody and that you responded
in the correct way that you didn't know, but
you still did. And that's something to be commended.
Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for the work
that you guys are doing is it's important right
now. And God will use it. He's I know he's blessing
people through every episode that you're doing.
It all counts for him. Apparently, we need some
more Billy Grahams out there on podcasts. Well,
there's a lot more coming in. It's exciting.
I've been to some of the conferences, and it's
really exciting to see the new ones coming up.
Like, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm like,
I didn't either. Yeah, I know what it does. We're
all just doing our best and letting him lead.
So it's a journey. I want to go to that next
year with you guys. God willing. Yeah, it was
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