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that this is where I was. And in that moment,

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I called out to God. I cried out to God. I said,

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Lord, I don't want to die. I have a five and

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seven year old. I have my husband. I have this

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career. I feel like I'm working with you. I'm

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not ready to die. And I really feel like my spirit,

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our salvation is not through works with Jesus.

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He did all of that on the cross. It's by grace

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through faith. So I knew that. somehow knew like

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I had more on this earth to do. Hey there, welcome

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to the God's Goodness podcast. We are your host,

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Josh and Shelly Hankins, and we're here to share

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real stories of God's power, stories of hope,

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healing, and miracles that will strengthen your

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faith. No matter what you're walking through,

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we want to remind you that God is good and he's

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still moving today. Let's dive in. Today's guest

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is someone who shares our heart for the miraculous.

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Julie Hedenborg is the host of the Everyday Miracles

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podcast where she boldly highlights the moments

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God steps into ordinary lives in extraordinary

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ways. She's a former CRNA, a wife, a mom, and

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a powerful woman of God whose own miraculous

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encounter forever changed the course of her life.

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Since then, Julie has made it her mission to

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help others know that miracles are not just biblical,

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they're now. From divine healings and angelic

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encounters to last -minute rescues that defy

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all logic, Julie's conversations point listeners

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to the goodness and the nearness of God. So whether

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you're waiting on your own breakthrough or you

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just need a reminder that heaven is closer than

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we think, this one's for you. Let's welcome Julie

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Hedenborg to the God's Goodness podcast. Oh,

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thank you, Shelly. It's an honor to be with you

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and Josh today. I'm so excited you're here. So

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before we dive in, Julie, would you do us the

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honor of opening us in prayer? I'd be happy to

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do that. Dear Heavenly Father, Lord, we thank

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you for this day. It's the day that you have

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made and we rejoice in it. Lord, I celebrate

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you right now and it's my joy to share what you

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have done. that you are a God who loves each

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and every one of us and there's nothing that's

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too hard for you. There's nothing that is impossible

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with you. So I pray for every listener right

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now that whatever you need them to hear right

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now, you know what that is, that they would receive

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it. So Lord, I thank you. for Shelly and Josh

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and their time this morning and their obedience

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and what you've given them to do. And we love

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you in Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen.

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Thank you for that. So let's start off with you

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loved being a nurse anesthetist and God redirected

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you to share testimonies on a podcast. Can you

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share a bit about the journey from nursing to

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podcasting and ministry? Because everyone comes

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to the podcasting world differently. So let's

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hear about like how God led you to this world.

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Yes, it's a long journey. There's a lot more,

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actually, that's not in the book, but yeah, you

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know, it's funny. There's that verse in Proverbs,

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I think it's 16 nine that says, a man makes his

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plans and God God directs the steps and establishes

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them, right? One guest could have, you want to

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make God laugh, plan out your life. Tell them

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your plans. Yeah. So I never really found my

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thing until I became a nurse anesthetist. It

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was the first and only thing that I felt like

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I actually did well. And I worked really hard.

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It didn't come easy. It was something I had to

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earn to and really work at. And I was really

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kind of in the prime of my life, maybe 45 years

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old when this happened. And I loved doing anesthesia.

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And I really felt like the Lord was using me

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in my role. I mean, my faith was, I thought,

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somewhat strong at the time. And I would walk

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down the hallways to see my next patient. And,

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you know, in the OR, we're really busy. So you

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don't always rarely have time to pray with patients,

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but sometimes you do. And I would pray, Lord,

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give me the words for this next patient. you

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know, to help give them peace and just to comfort

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them. And sometimes I would have time to actually

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do ministry at work, but it was rare. But I loved

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my job. And then there was a day in the OR, I

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don't remember the date, and I wish I had journaled

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it. But it was the first time, Shelley, that

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I really heard the voice of God. And I didn't

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know it was them. But I had intubated a patient.

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I still remember this. And this is really the

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first little step in the journey where things

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started to change. I had intubated a patient.

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Everything was going so smoothly. just I was

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in like a flow state, you know, like in my zone

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of anesthesia, loving my job and not every day

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was like that. Some days were hard, but I think

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it's significant that everything was going so

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smoothly. And I was actually really content.

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I turned to put my blade away and I could still

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see the scene when I heard so clearly in my head,

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this part of your life is over. And it was stated

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with authority, certainty, calmness. You're probably

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like, wait, what? Yeah, that's about... It broke

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my heart. Like, my heart just sank. And it was

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like, what? Like, it wasn't audible, but it could

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have been. It was that clear. It was that definite

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to me. And I was confused. And I even thought

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for a moment, like, did I eat something weird?

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Why would I have this thought? And I remember

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just that... that statement. And I knew it meant

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anesthesia, you're done. Like I knew that's what

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it meant. It was so I went home to my husband

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and I kept saying to him, I'm like, why would

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I think that? It just doesn't make sense. It

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doesn't make sense. And the book that I wrote,

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I joke, you know, a good Christian girl would

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have gone straight to the office and turned and

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will finish the case and then turned in her resignation

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at the end of the day. You know, God's calling

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me elsewhere, but I didn't even know he was talking

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to me. And I guess it was, it was months later.

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that I sustained an injury to my neck. It was

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a life -threatening injury. It's controversial.

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I have nothing against this group of individuals.

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They're wonderful people, but it's my belief

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that a neck adjustment by my chiropractor who

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I loved dearly caused a serious injury to me.

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I ended up in intensive care. There were two

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arteries to my brain that were dissected. and

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I had an aneurysm just next to the area he was

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adjusting, and it was a very vigorous adjustment.

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So I don't mean to scare anyone. And again, this

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is my opinion, and it is a known risk. And they

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don't tell you about it? Well, some of them do.

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Some of them do. Some of them, it's on the consent

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form that you sign, you know, all the forms we

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sign. I mean, that's pretty easy, right? Some

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of them don't, because I actually, in that rough

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year, I went around to some offices and said,

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I pretended to sign up just to see their consent

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form. and tell them, you know, of course I would

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never go in and have one touch me again. But

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anyway, it ended up putting me in an ambulance.

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They didn't know if I was going to make it. I

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had some small strokes and it was a very scary

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time. But in the ambulance, there was a very

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critical moment where I realized that I may not

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survive. I heard the ambulance driver talking

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to the paramedic. And they were saying, you know,

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we can't hit any bumps. We can't hit any potholes.

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This has to be a very smooth ride. And I could

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hear the seriousness of their tone. And at the

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same time, I'm Googling on my phone, of course,

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Dr. Google, we all use, you know, and now I guess

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it's chat, right? But I was Googling like prognosis

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for bilateral vertebral artery dissection. And

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the first thing that popped up was for those

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that survive. and then I was reading you know

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I just like oh my gosh put the phone down like

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but what happens is with a vertebral artery dissection

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you have an injury basically your artery has

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three layers to it and the layers rip apart from

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one another and you they can collapse down and

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kind of form a block where you're not getting

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any oxygen to the back of the brain called an

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anoxic brain injury, or you can have a little,

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a clot that is forming to try to heal what the

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body sees as an injury and the clock gets bigger

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and bigger and bigger. And then once it gets

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so big, it can go straight to your brain and

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it can kill you. Typically, most cases you have

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a stroke and most people have to recover or they

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may have permanent damage. They may not, but

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this is where I was. And in that moment, I called

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out to God. I cried out to God. I said, Lord,

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You know, I don't want to die. You know, I have

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a five and seven year old. I have my husband.

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I have this career. You know, I feel like I'm

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working with you. Like, you know, I, I'm not

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ready to die. And I really feel like my spirit,

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you know, our salvation is not through works

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with Jesus. He did all of that on the cross.

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It's, it's by grace through faith. So I knew

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that, but I somehow knew like I had more on this

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earth to do. And, you know, Ephesians 2 10 says,

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you know, he has works for us, made in advance,

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you know, so we're not saved by works, but he

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does have a plan for us. And Jeremiah 29 11,

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you know, have a plan and a purpose. And anyway,

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I knew I wasn't ready to go. And so I pleaded

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with him and I said, well, please let me share

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you with just one more person. I don't want to

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die. You know, just please. And, you know, in

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that moment, I just printed out a Bible verse

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that you'd like, actually, it was a day before

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the adjustment. I didn't realize that until like

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eight months later. You know how things pop up

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and you notice the date on that time stamp when

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you took that picture. It's like, oh, my gosh,

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that's right before I had the adjustment. I printed

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out Isaiah 41 10, and I put it in a frame. And

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that verse says, do not fear for I am with you.

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Do not be dismayed for I am your God. I pulled

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you with my right hand. That part was in the

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picture, but I think Shelley, it was like the

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first verse I ever printed out and framed in

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my home. I was not an on fire Christian, but

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I had printed that verse out and for some reason

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it just stuck out at me and I had it by my computer

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and every day I looked at it and I read it and

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I was like, I just love that. I just love that.

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And in that moment where I was crying out in

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panic. I closed my eyes with tears after I heard

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them say that. And I realized like, I might not,

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I may not go home. I might be needing Jesus.

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You know, I closed my eyes with tears. And in

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that moment, it was like, boom, there's that

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verse, do not fear for I am with thee, you know,

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and I could see it. And I wasn't trying to recall

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it. I wasn't even thinking about it. I know that

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was sent to me. It's just a little ways that

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God works. So amazing. You sit back and you see

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the pictures after the fact. Sometimes we kind

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of see it, but I ended up in ICU for three days

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and they ran all kinds of tests on me. I did

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not have to have surgery or anything like that.

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But when I left the hospital, they did tell me

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you could still have a stroke or the aneurysm

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probably won't rupture. And that's 90 days. They

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said I could still have a stroke. I had to deal

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with pain. The strokes luckily were transient,

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which means they didn't have any permanent effects.

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It's kind of miraculous. I could have been paralyzed.

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I could have died. There are people that have

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died from just one vertebral artery dissection.

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And there was just another woman in People magazine

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just now, recently people, all these kinds of

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people are sending that to me. And I'm like,

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I know, I just wish they would stop doing that

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one piece of the treatment. They have different

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ways they can adjust the neck. I'm not out to

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get chiropractors. My story is not about that.

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And I honestly hate that it's part of the story

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because I've never met one that I didn't like.

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And I know they're just trying to help people,

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you know, and there are good things they can

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do. So just for the record, I want to get that

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out there. But that was a big part of the journey.

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And I had a really tough year, which I'm embarrassed

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to say, because I feel like I had this amazing

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physical healing miracle where I left ICU without

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any issue, basically, other than pain. And that

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resolved. And over time, I had to go home on,

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you know, aspirin therapy, which big deal. I

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get to, I can't ride roller coasters. I get to

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see my kids blow out their candles on their cake

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every year. You know, I'm still here. And God

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has really blessed me, but I struggled because

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I reached out to the person who I felt caused

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the injury and I was crying after I got out of

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the ICU. And I told him, I said, you know, I

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don't know how to tell you this, but I just got

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the intensive care. And I believe this is what

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I really believe this caused what you did caused

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it because I didn't have this pain before. I

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had like a kink in my neck and it was C2, which

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is higher risk. But long and short of it, I told

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him, I'm not litigious. I want to bring in all

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my records. I want to help prevent this from

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happening again. Find the silver lining. I know

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that you didn't need to do this to me. You're

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trying to help me. And he did say on the phone,

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he's like, oh, I'm so sorry this happened to

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you, and that he never responded after that to

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my emails or my requests to come in. He did not

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want to see me. And I've heard that the lawyers

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sometimes will say don't. talk to them. So maybe

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he was advised, I know he cared. I know he did.

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But I was so hurt by that. And then soon after

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I ended up being told I'm disabled for my job,

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which had nothing to do with the neck adjustment.

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That was because of my spine issues, which led

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me to see him in the first place. But just to

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be clear, but there were so many things happening

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to I had a falling out with a best friend who

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was so dear to me. That was heartbreaking. I

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and losing my job, you know, But the doctors

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just said, you're disabled. That was very difficult.

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So I just got stuck in the injustice of all of

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it. And God had, God was so patient and so kind.

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And, you know, He sent this woman to me, to my

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door in my neighborhood who was, she was training

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to be a life coach. And she worked in E -Kids

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at church, and my son kept forgetting his little

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kid Bible every time he would leave it. So Carla

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would come over and she would always say, Julie,

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I really, you know, I'd love for you to join

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this Bible study. And I was isolating myself,

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which you don't want to do. That's what the enemy

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wants. Oh, he so wants that because I couldn't

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be. my normal self, I was so angry and I was

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becoming bitter. And I really learned in that

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year, just sum it up. Number one, one thing I

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did right. I never stopped talking to God. You

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know, I had never prayed ugly prayers before.

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I don't know if you know what I'm talking about,

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but you know, my prayers are always buttoned

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up, like he's holy and you know. Oh yeah. No,

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no. Him and I have gotten a few ugly, ugly prayer

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sessions. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm actually going

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to do a video on this because he's really leading

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me to another one too, because I don't want to

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think about how that day went. It was so not

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me, but I was trying to hold it all in and hold

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it together. And I had seen a different chiropractor

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to ask to just try to get some answers. And I

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remember going back to my car and just crying

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out to God. Like, and it hit me like, okay, he

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already knows how I feel. He's all knowing, right?

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So it's not like he doesn't know I'm angry and

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bitter and ticked off. So I couldn't help it.

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I had a complete breakdown in the parking lot

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in my car. And I remember crying out to God,

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you know, seriously, God, like, and I knew he

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had saved me. I knew he had protected me, but

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I wasn't hearing anything from him. I felt like

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he wasn't there. And I knew all these doors that

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were closing in my life, relationships and my

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job and different things that were happening,

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were happening for a reason, but I didn't know

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what was next. And I remember saying, God, Romans

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8 .28, you know, you work all things together

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for the good of those who are called, who loved

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him and are called to his focus. I'm probably

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paraphrasing that, but you know, I'm like, seriously,

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God, how are you gonna use this for good? And

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I just washed it. And I was just like, I don't

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understand. I can't hear you. Fuck Christ. You

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know, back in that moment. And you know, I think,

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I just remember breaking down in that parking

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lot, just bawling. And I was like, I'm just going

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to choose to trust you. You know, I just have

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to believe. I don't see it. I don't see it at

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all. And you know, and I know this sounds silly.

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There are people that... are traffic. There are

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people that horrible things happen to you. I

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know this was like a bad neck adjustment in the

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big picture, but this was my life at the time.

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And I felt like, you know, this has ruined my

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plan for my life and partially related to the

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job too. But anyway, God would answer that prayer

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years later, because even though I had forgotten

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about that ambulance prayer, and asking God,

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you know, let me share you with one more person.

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I think it was that year I ended up going to

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the Bible study, which they're sharing. They

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were covering Beth Moore's revelation study.

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I'm like, oh, great. The apocalypse. This is

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going to be awesome. You know, and they were

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so sweet. The women, they were like, it's the

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revelation of Jesus. They were just amazing.

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And they prayed like spiritual prayers, which

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I wasn't familiar with. And for some reason,

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I would sit in that room and I would just cry.

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and Shelley and Josh, I got my, found my Bible

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because I wasn't in it. And all the pages, like

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it was dusty. I think I had like, you know, all

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the pages were like stuck together because I

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never opened it. It was so embarrassing. And

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all of their Bibles were like post -noted, you

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know, from A to Z and worn and highlighted and

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tattered. And, and, but you know what? They never

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made me feel bad. Yeah, you have to, and that,

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I'm telling you, go into that Bible study and

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would have preferred maybe John or Acts instead

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of Reveille. But I learned a lot, you know, and

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that they loved on me. They loved on me. And

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I remember the first day that I went, I was just

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going to just shut her up. It really was. And

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then she was a life coach. She had to get her

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hours, you know, free hours. She would have to

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get so many hours. And I'm like, Carla, you do

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not want, to unleash. What is it here? It is

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the hardest earned hours you could probably get.

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I'm just mad. You know, and so she said, Julie,

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no, you're doing me a favor. God just showed

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up for me through Carla. He showed up for me

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through those women. And when I would hear those

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prayers, I remember they would say, Julie, you

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haven't said anything. And I said, you know,

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I don't even feel worthy of even being here right

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now. And I just was very transparent, but something

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happened that year. And God taught me the importance

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of community. And because we do want to withdraw

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when we feel ugly and we can't, you know, we

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can't be that warm, bubbly person, positive.

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I was always that bubbly, positive person. And

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I don't want people to see me that way. So he

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brought me, I learned about community. Also in

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the Bible it said, this is really hard when you're

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mad, said, pray for your enemies, you know, and

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he wasn't an enemy. that I felt, I even reached

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out to DC, to this chiropractic research group

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to just give them my records. And nope, I didn't

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want anything to do with me. They didn't care.

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They didn't even respond. And I told them what

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happened. So I learned about that, but I learned,

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I prayed for him. And my first prayers were so

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bad. It was like, oh, okay, I'm going to pray

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for him because he is so bad. And I'm sure Jesus

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was up there like, oh my goodness, my daughter,

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you know, but I kept going. I kept going. And

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then, you know, I would cry out to God, my ugly

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cries, prayers. And I'm like, I know I'm supposed

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to forgive, but I just don't know how. I'm so

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mad. And I remember a girl in Bible study just

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telling me bluntly, she's like, forgiveness is

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just a decision you have to make. You know, and

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that was, I needed to hear that. So I would just

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say it and I would put a post -it note on my

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mirror in my bathroom. You know, I forgive him.

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I forgive him. I'd be like, Lord, help me feel

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it. You know, and I prayed. Yeah. And then I

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remember there was a moment where I was going

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up to, I was in my car driving and I pulled up

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to an intersection. And as I kept just crying

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out to God for help, help, help. I was sitting

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in an intersection in front of a church and there

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was a cross. And I remember seeing the cross

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and in my right ear was, I don't even know if

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it could have been a whisper. Because I can't

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say definitively I've heard God audibly, but

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I hear Him in my head and I feel impressions

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of my spirit. And He talks in all kinds of ways.

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So for me, that's how it works. But as I was

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asking for help, I'm sitting and I see this cross

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in my sight, not even thinking, I'm just waiting

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for the light to change. And I hear in my right

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ear, you know, the feeling was, I know this is

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hard for you, this whole situation, but it was

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just an accident. It was a bad accident. And

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I'm looking at the cross. And in that moment,

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I just have this, and I don't think this was

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a supernatural vision. It may have just been

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a thought that I had, but I just had this thought

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of Jesus hanging on the cross on purpose, maliciously

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being murdered in the worst possible way. The

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biggest injustice that's ever happened on earth,

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the most perfect person. So love itself, the

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embodiment of love is being ripped, you know,

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just as being crucified. And what did he do in

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the middle of it? He forgave them in the middle

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of it. And it just gave me like, I just started,

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I just had tears and I was like, just Lord, forgive

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me. you know, please, I'm so sorry, you know,

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and it started to shift things. And over time,

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you know, he really did teach me about forgiveness

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that year, but going forward to the podcast,

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it was the third year where I was at an event

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with my husband and I'm still in a better place,

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much better place. There was a lot of healing

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that had to be done. And I'm just helping my

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husband out with something at a work event in

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California. And we're at this event and I had

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a vision and it was funny. I had never really

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had a vision like that before. There was one,

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but this was different. And I didn't even know

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it was a vision, just like I didn't know God

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was speaking to me. I didn't know I had a vision,

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but I was sitting there in the conference and

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they had this thing, these things upon the wall,

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all across the wall that were how to grow your

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business. And one of the words, I don't even

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know the other words, you guys, because all I

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saw on the wall was podcast. And it was like

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a spotlight was on it. It was the only, and I

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thought, oh my gosh, that's what I'm supposed

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to do. This was October, 2018. How long ago from

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the prayer and the ambulance to that had it been?

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Three years and three months. Cause it was July

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3rd that my accident happened in 2015. And it

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was late, the end of October 2015 was my accident.

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And then 2018 was division. And I see podcast

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and I don't even listen to podcasts. I can't

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explain it. I've never been more sure. And I'm

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like, because then it's not just my testimony.

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It's yours and Josh's and this person. And I

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turn, because we're in these breakout groups.

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I'm like, I have to tell my husband. So I go

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to tell my husband. And I'm trying to find him

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frantically. I'm so excited because I just know

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that I know that I know. And as I turn, to the

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back wall of this huge conference center there's

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a big blank wall and boom all of a sudden it

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was like an invisible hand wielded like a piece

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of chalk or a pencil there was no color at all

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it wasn't like this grand ezekiel vision it was

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very flat but It was powerful. It yielded this

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pencil and it went side to side, back and forth.

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And it was drawing like stones or slabs, like

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these rectangular slabs that were stacking quickly

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in front of me. And it just kept going higher

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and higher and went fast. As the stones were

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stacking, this is gonna sound crazy. I knew these

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were testimonies. Each one of these stones was

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a testimony of someone, a different type of testimony,

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a different miracle, a different person, different

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places, all kinds of things. And it all built

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this monument and went straight up in through

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the clouds. I couldn't see the top of it. And

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just before it disappeared, the whole thing lit

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up really quickly and it was giving glory to

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God and it was giving people hope. And I was

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like, Oh my goodness, this is amazing. And the

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meaning of it, the feeling of what it meant was

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so much stronger than what I saw visually. I

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don't know how to explain this, but it was your

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heart. Yeah, it was in my, it was a spiritual

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thing. And I, I'm like, oh my, and then I was

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just on fire. I could not stop talking about

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it. And, um, you know, I guess it was, gosh,

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that was, I started it on Christmas day, 2018.

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There's a lot that happened. I almost chickened

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out when I got home because it was like, I don't

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even I don't really know how to do any of this.

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And I'm like, Lord, I don't, and I definitely

00:26:02.579 --> 00:26:05.220
didn't want to do YouTube. But fast forward,

00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:08.799
it's been almost seven years. I have shared miracles

00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:11.900
and testimonies of you name it. I've probably

00:26:11.900 --> 00:26:15.000
shared it. If you can conceive of a testimony

00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.579
from different continents, I've had people come

00:26:18.579 --> 00:26:21.519
on and I have several platforms now that have

00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:24.869
shared. my content, and so I don't even really

00:26:24.869 --> 00:26:28.049
know the downloads, but I know my YouTube channel,

00:26:28.549 --> 00:26:31.349
I think I'm approaching two million views on

00:26:31.349 --> 00:26:34.990
my YouTube channel, but I know over a year ago,

00:26:35.289 --> 00:26:37.130
I think I spoke at a conference, it's been over

00:26:37.130 --> 00:26:39.480
a year now. had to add up my views. And I think

00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:42.200
it was like over five to eight million or something

00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.819
like that. I don't know, but like it's all Him.

00:26:45.059 --> 00:26:47.380
It's all Him. And usually, and not everybody

00:26:47.380 --> 00:26:50.119
likes it. Not everyone likes it, but you know,

00:26:50.259 --> 00:26:52.680
that's the beauty of it because God is using

00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.140
that and striking a nerve in someone. They're

00:26:55.140 --> 00:26:58.680
hearing His name. You know, they're hearing something

00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.769
He's going to use. It's a seed planted. So I

00:27:01.769 --> 00:27:04.369
actually rejoice. You know, I don't like it when

00:27:04.369 --> 00:27:06.710
people talk about my big head, but, you know,

00:27:06.910 --> 00:27:09.349
and I'm in my 50s. I've had better years for

00:27:09.349 --> 00:27:13.190
me than this. But God is so amazing. And I know

00:27:13.190 --> 00:27:15.769
last year, we were watching something and Glenn

00:27:15.769 --> 00:27:18.230
Beck came on and he stated a quote that Billy

00:27:18.230 --> 00:27:21.069
Graham said before he died that I put in the

00:27:21.069 --> 00:27:24.730
book that really blew my mind. I wasn't expecting

00:27:24.730 --> 00:27:28.069
this. A four day headache had me desperate. Then

00:27:28.069 --> 00:27:30.029
my coach said, you need one of these patches.

00:27:30.730 --> 00:27:34.730
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00:27:34.849 --> 00:27:38.809
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00:27:38.809 --> 00:27:41.750
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00:27:41.750 --> 00:27:44.390
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00:27:44.390 --> 00:27:47.390
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00:27:52.589 --> 00:27:56.700
back to more of God's goodness. And Glenn Beck

00:27:56.700 --> 00:27:59.339
was talking to Billy Graham before Billy Graham

00:27:59.339 --> 00:28:01.400
was passing. I don't remember how imminent it

00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:03.400
was, but it was in the last part of his life.

00:28:04.019 --> 00:28:07.579
And he was distressed. Glenn was about the state

00:28:07.579 --> 00:28:10.339
of the world. And he's like, Billy, who's going

00:28:10.339 --> 00:28:11.900
to be the next Billy Graham? Who's going to be

00:28:11.900 --> 00:28:14.220
the next George Washington? We're losing all

00:28:14.220 --> 00:28:16.700
these people who've been a big part of the faith.

00:28:16.819 --> 00:28:19.910
And Billy Graham chuckled. And he said, Oh, it's

00:28:19.910 --> 00:28:22.430
not going to work that way this time. He says,

00:28:22.589 --> 00:28:25.630
God, it's tired of people like me getting His

00:28:25.630 --> 00:28:29.289
glory. And God is going to do a move through

00:28:29.289 --> 00:28:32.750
regular people that are called to do something

00:28:32.750 --> 00:28:36.250
they don't understand. They don't feel like it's

00:28:36.250 --> 00:28:38.329
going to matter. He's like, they don't think

00:28:38.329 --> 00:28:40.809
they can do it. He said, but if every person

00:28:40.809 --> 00:28:43.490
who's called to do just the one thing God's calling

00:28:43.490 --> 00:28:46.849
them to do. it's going to make a ripple effect,

00:28:47.069 --> 00:28:50.009
a mosaic will form across the earth that everyone

00:28:50.009 --> 00:28:53.190
will know it could only be God. And my husband

00:28:53.190 --> 00:28:56.990
heard that and he said, honey, that's you. He's

00:28:56.990 --> 00:28:59.809
talking about you. We played it again. And it

00:28:59.809 --> 00:29:02.109
just hit me all of a sudden, these moments of

00:29:02.109 --> 00:29:05.579
my journey, like, hearing God for the first time

00:29:05.579 --> 00:29:07.779
saying this part of your life is over, the moment

00:29:07.779 --> 00:29:09.920
in the ambulance, God, let me share you with

00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.480
one more person. And then fast forward, I had

00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.319
forgotten about the prayer, you guys, fast forward,

00:29:15.420 --> 00:29:17.779
I'm doing a podcast and I didn't even know I

00:29:17.779 --> 00:29:20.720
had analytics for the first eight months. You

00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:22.660
know, I don't even know what I'm doing. And yet

00:29:22.660 --> 00:29:26.519
people, God is using it and he's sending to people.

00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.900
And then something really cool that he did that

00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:33.660
I didn't catch right away. My kids had to go

00:29:33.660 --> 00:29:35.980
across town like years after I had that moment

00:29:35.980 --> 00:29:38.099
in the parking lot. They had to go across town

00:29:38.099 --> 00:29:40.420
for testing at some facilities. So I drove them

00:29:40.420 --> 00:29:42.319
and I'm waiting in the car and I'm kind of bored

00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.019
and I'm looking at my phone and I thought, you

00:29:45.019 --> 00:29:48.160
know, check my intake, my mailbox for the podcast.

00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:53.079
And as I'm sitting there, I'm in tears at what

00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:57.509
I'm reading, how God has used testimonies. And

00:29:57.509 --> 00:30:00.509
usually it's nothing. It's not my knowledge of

00:30:00.509 --> 00:30:03.329
theology. I have no theology degree. I'm not

00:30:03.329 --> 00:30:05.329
an expert. I don't have the Bible memorized.

00:30:06.130 --> 00:30:08.369
You know, I often have to Google what verse was

00:30:08.369 --> 00:30:11.549
that, you know, and find it. So I'm not anyone

00:30:11.549 --> 00:30:13.990
that you would pick to do ministry. I'm sitting

00:30:13.990 --> 00:30:15.930
there in the car and I'm weeping. One person

00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:19.240
had, she was near, you know, taking her life,

00:30:19.299 --> 00:30:22.220
you know, and she found an episode and this,

00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:24.400
I can't tell you how this, how I needed this.

00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.319
And God sent this to me and over, and there were

00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.059
several that I was sitting in the car reading.

00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.720
And as I'm crying, I look up and I'm like, this

00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:38.440
looks familiar. This place looks familiar. I

00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:40.579
didn't realize that I was sitting in this thing.

00:30:41.589 --> 00:30:44.589
like in maybe the same spot, it might've been

00:30:44.589 --> 00:30:46.410
the one next to it, but I was sitting in the

00:30:46.410 --> 00:30:49.410
same spot years earlier where I cried out to

00:30:49.410 --> 00:30:52.730
God and I said, oh, are you gonna use this seriously,

00:30:52.970 --> 00:30:58.369
God? Like how? You know, and 20 years later,

00:30:58.869 --> 00:31:03.849
he's showing me. He's like, this is how. I was

00:31:03.849 --> 00:31:06.910
just like, oh my God, thank you so much. Thank

00:31:06.910 --> 00:31:10.769
you, I had no idea. Yeah. And so, you know, I

00:31:10.769 --> 00:31:13.809
want people, I'm pretty vulnerable in the book

00:31:13.809 --> 00:31:16.410
about my journey because there were times I just

00:31:16.410 --> 00:31:18.730
was, I was like, I'm not good enough. I can't

00:31:18.730 --> 00:31:21.069
do this. I, you know, I try, I actually tried

00:31:21.069 --> 00:31:23.650
to chicken out and the way he worked, there's

00:31:23.650 --> 00:31:26.069
some funny parts to the book, but, you know,

00:31:26.069 --> 00:31:28.769
the people he has sent to me and let me share

00:31:28.769 --> 00:31:30.849
this because it's really important and I don't

00:31:30.849 --> 00:31:34.450
want people to miss out on this. A critical part

00:31:34.450 --> 00:31:38.130
of my journey that made all this happen. and

00:31:38.130 --> 00:31:42.829
had me find this place of healing with my full

00:31:42.829 --> 00:31:47.009
surrender of my life. So powerful. I've never

00:31:47.009 --> 00:31:49.470
done that. I grew up in a Christian household

00:31:49.470 --> 00:31:52.509
my whole life. I had a brief falling away after

00:31:52.509 --> 00:31:55.349
a professor in college told me, you know, it's

00:31:55.349 --> 00:31:57.750
not real and all these things. And there were

00:31:57.750 --> 00:31:59.509
some other traumas that kind of, I wasn't in

00:31:59.509 --> 00:32:02.289
a great place when I had that happen. So the

00:32:02.289 --> 00:32:04.390
devil set that all up. Oh yeah, that not real

00:32:04.390 --> 00:32:07.220
did a lot of good things in your life. Oh, it

00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:10.700
was a horror. It was a very, it was a lonely

00:32:10.700 --> 00:32:13.799
time, a dead time in my life when I look back

00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.579
on that. And there was an moment in the ICU and

00:32:16.579 --> 00:32:18.980
I saw that's another big part of my story. People

00:32:18.980 --> 00:32:21.400
love if you want me to finish with that. But,

00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:25.779
you know, here I was 45 years old and I was really

00:32:25.779 --> 00:32:28.539
a casual Christian. thinking, you know, I go

00:32:28.539 --> 00:32:30.420
to church on Sunday. Okay. I don't know where

00:32:30.420 --> 00:32:33.720
my Bible even is. Like, you know, and by lunch

00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.400
happens, by the time lunch happens, I had forgotten

00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.480
what the sermon was about. You know, I wasn't

00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:43.890
really. Yeah, I was very lukewarm. You know,

00:32:43.890 --> 00:32:46.029
I remember my dating life was a disaster. You

00:32:46.029 --> 00:32:47.430
know, everyone had potential. You know, that's

00:32:47.430 --> 00:32:48.910
great if you're flipping homes, but not when

00:32:48.910 --> 00:32:52.089
you're dating. And, you know, so I finally got

00:32:52.089 --> 00:32:53.769
to the point where it was like, you know, and

00:32:53.769 --> 00:32:56.369
my broke and all my like nodded Christmas lights.

00:32:56.509 --> 00:32:58.170
You know, I think I said that with Jen Lee's

00:32:58.170 --> 00:33:01.789
episode. That's how I would hear, Lord, I surrender

00:33:01.789 --> 00:33:06.029
this mess to you. He's like, okay, thank you.

00:33:06.630 --> 00:33:09.769
But when I got out of the ICU and I got home,

00:33:09.849 --> 00:33:12.299
that is one thing I want people to hear. it's

00:33:12.299 --> 00:33:14.259
so important because I don't think any of this

00:33:14.259 --> 00:33:16.799
would have happened without that surrender. I

00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:21.799
got to a place where I realized, okay, maybe

00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:25.799
people hearing about what God has done through

00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.200
all of this is more important than... me trying

00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.680
to save the world from getting their neck chopped.

00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:37.299
You know, and I was so stuck up and stuck in

00:33:37.299 --> 00:33:40.599
that righteous anger. And I just got down on

00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:42.440
my knees on my bedroom floor. And I just remember

00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.440
crying out to God and I said, Lord, I don't deserve,

00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:49.519
you know, I don't know why you saved me, but

00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:51.380
I thank you that you did. I thank you that you

00:33:51.380 --> 00:33:54.680
love me. I surrender my entire life. Everything

00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.819
that I have the rest of my life is all. yours.

00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.000
I'll do anything you want me to do. I'll go to

00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.400
Africa. I'll sell this ring on my finger, which,

00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.980
you know, it's, it's not a huge value, but it's

00:34:05.980 --> 00:34:08.019
like sentimental, you know, my wedding ring.

00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:12.820
I said, anything I give you my entire life. And

00:34:12.820 --> 00:34:16.860
when I did that, that is when it's so opposite

00:34:16.860 --> 00:34:21.119
because you want to control things that are like,

00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:24.500
you know, and we want God to act the way we want

00:34:24.500 --> 00:34:27.139
him to act. You know, but it's scary to say,

00:34:27.179 --> 00:34:29.860
Lord, just take it all. Take it all. And you

00:34:29.860 --> 00:34:32.699
don't know what it's going to look like. But

00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:36.860
I have to say that is when I started hearing

00:34:36.860 --> 00:34:40.300
God speak to me slowly. I didn't have this wind

00:34:40.300 --> 00:34:42.079
and this big supernatural experience. And some

00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.320
people in podcasts do. I didn't have that. It

00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.019
was a process of reading in the Bible. And, you

00:34:47.019 --> 00:34:51.559
know, and my gifts started. download in a parking

00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:53.079
lot with a homeless man. I'm like, I don't even

00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.079
know what just happened to me. I think something's

00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:57.699
going on in my microbiome, because I just knew

00:34:57.699 --> 00:35:00.940
things I shouldn't have known. I didn't even

00:35:00.940 --> 00:35:03.820
understand what was happening, but that was a

00:35:03.820 --> 00:35:07.440
product of full surrender to God. And even when

00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.199
I started the podcast, in the beginning, it was

00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:11.780
like, well, I'm going to do a good job for you,

00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:18.219
God. I was planning it all out. And it was all

00:35:18.219 --> 00:35:20.639
falling apart. And all these people that I thought

00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:22.280
were going to be so great didn't want to come

00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.239
on. And it was like, oh, I got humbled really

00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:28.420
quickly. And I just said, OK, Lord, I know you

00:35:28.420 --> 00:35:32.139
called me to do this. And I just opened my hands

00:35:32.139 --> 00:35:36.559
and I said, this is yours. I said, would you

00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.320
show me what you want? Would you lead me? Please

00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.280
lead me. And I initially heard nothing. And I

00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.039
was just like, I felt so deflated because I had

00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:49.539
this amazing, like I just knew that's what it

00:35:49.539 --> 00:35:52.000
was. And I remember going to get my hair done

00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.079
in the hair salon. That was my first desk that

00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:57.420
I got. My hairdresser was like, so tell me about

00:35:57.420 --> 00:35:58.880
this pack. I said, I didn't want to talk about

00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.679
it because I was just so like hopeless in the

00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.280
moment. I said, yeah, I'm going to share miracles

00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:06.360
that glorify God. And I was talking kind of loud

00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:07.840
because the head was there rinsing the color

00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.239
out of my hair. And there was only one woman

00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.119
that was in the salon other than me that was

00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.500
a client. And she was also getting her hair rinsed

00:36:15.500 --> 00:36:17.900
out. And she yells out from the sink, I have

00:36:17.900 --> 00:36:22.559
a miracle testimony. And Emily did. She had an

00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:26.000
amazing miracle testimony. And we talked after,

00:36:26.139 --> 00:36:28.960
I was just kind of like, what? And God started

00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:32.199
leading me one by one in the craziest ways. And

00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:35.019
I actually missed that part. Because now I have

00:36:35.019 --> 00:36:39.659
so many people reaching out. I can't even do

00:36:39.659 --> 00:36:43.210
it all. And I wish I could. You know, but I just,

00:36:43.730 --> 00:36:49.429
but now He sends them our way. We go for referrals.

00:36:50.210 --> 00:36:53.610
Yeah. But you know, it was so amazing. And even

00:36:53.610 --> 00:36:56.030
my husband witnessed it. He's like, if I didn't

00:36:56.030 --> 00:36:57.869
see it, I wouldn't believe it. I'm like, yeah,

00:36:57.869 --> 00:37:00.550
this is God. And it was like me and the Holy

00:37:00.550 --> 00:37:03.190
Spirit, you know, just like, okay, Lord. And

00:37:03.190 --> 00:37:05.550
I would each and, and you know what was so fun?

00:37:05.809 --> 00:37:09.170
I would pray and hit the button and it really

00:37:09.170 --> 00:37:13.699
wasn't resting on me. at all. And that was such

00:37:13.699 --> 00:37:16.079
a relief because the guest had such an amazing

00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:18.239
miracle. And I would interject and hopefully

00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:21.179
add something, but honestly, it was so amazing.

00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.460
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00:38:08.780 --> 00:38:11.599
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00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:13.780
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00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.579
Number one, I feel like I'm learning more and

00:38:16.579 --> 00:38:19.739
more about the heart of who God really is. And

00:38:19.739 --> 00:38:23.440
I'm blown away. And the power of our prayer.

00:38:24.059 --> 00:38:26.960
Oh, my goodness. And you see so many themes in

00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.320
all these testimonies and faith. You know, some

00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.960
people can get healed with somebody else praying

00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:35.239
over them, you know, their faith. I have Meg

00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.639
and Brian. Brian was a paralyzed police officer.

00:38:39.380 --> 00:38:42.280
He was unilaterally paralyzed and broke his neck

00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.480
in a work injury. Lost everything on one side

00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:49.199
of his body and in 10 years he struggled. I mean,

00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:51.179
it was horrible. He even asked God, just take

00:38:51.179 --> 00:38:53.820
me. He had muscle spasms, migraines. At one point,

00:38:53.820 --> 00:38:55.800
he was going to be completely paralyzed. He fell

00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.579
and had surgeries. And he did get this brace

00:38:59.579 --> 00:39:02.059
for his leg that was a mechanical brace. He'd

00:39:02.059 --> 00:39:03.719
swing his leg over and put it in the brace so

00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:05.880
he could walk with a brace, which is kind of

00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:09.409
a miracle itself. But he got healed at a... a

00:39:09.409 --> 00:39:12.769
conference that his wife bribed him to go to.

00:39:12.969 --> 00:39:15.070
She had so much faith that he would be healed.

00:39:15.329 --> 00:39:18.190
And that encourages me as a mom praying over

00:39:18.190 --> 00:39:21.030
my children. You know, you have people in your

00:39:21.030 --> 00:39:22.590
life that you're praying for, whether it's in

00:39:22.590 --> 00:39:25.750
-laws or friends or coworkers. Let me tell you,

00:39:25.769 --> 00:39:28.570
there's power in your prayer for your faith for

00:39:28.570 --> 00:39:31.670
that person to get what they need and see what

00:39:31.670 --> 00:39:34.750
God did. You know, she actually said, this is

00:39:34.750 --> 00:39:37.530
my birthday. This is my Christmas and Mother's

00:39:37.530 --> 00:39:39.789
Day. If you just go, God's going to hear me.

00:39:40.829 --> 00:39:42.670
And he was just like, I'm tired of people praying

00:39:42.670 --> 00:39:46.530
for me. That's where he was. And he has an amazing

00:39:46.530 --> 00:39:48.389
testimony. And when they first re -judged me,

00:39:48.469 --> 00:39:51.280
I'm like, tough records for this, like it sounds

00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:55.019
so crazy. They had video and now they're on,

00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:56.639
they're in that new documentary. And you know,

00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:58.559
I was one of the first people to ever share their

00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.699
story. I think they shared it at their church

00:40:00.699 --> 00:40:05.500
and it's mind boggling to me. I have no idea.

00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:06.860
I would be sharing the stuff that I'm sharing

00:40:06.860 --> 00:40:11.320
and I just want people to see God really does

00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:15.599
use people that the world. may not choose, you

00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.880
know, what is that one scripture? He uses the

00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:21.739
foolish to confound the wise. I can't remember

00:40:21.739 --> 00:40:23.440
where that's at. Like I said, I'm not an expert,

00:40:23.739 --> 00:40:27.000
but He really does. He really does. And so, I

00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.280
hope it encourages people, you know, just reading

00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:33.420
the different stories. Oh, man, there's nothing

00:40:33.420 --> 00:40:35.780
you're facing that's too big for Him. Nothing.

00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.320
And He can use you. I love at the very beginning

00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.199
of your story that you heard from God. that he

00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:44.880
said, you weren't going to be doing this. And

00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:47.099
you were like, no, I must have ate something

00:40:47.099 --> 00:40:51.099
funny. And then he removed you from it. Right.

00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.260
He gave you he gave you an idea of what was going

00:40:53.260 --> 00:40:57.179
to happen. And you did not accept it. And it

00:40:57.179 --> 00:41:00.320
still happened. Yeah. Which because that's what

00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.340
he does. He has a good he's good at that He's

00:41:02.340 --> 00:41:03.960
very good at moving us from point a to point

00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.659
B, especially for dragging our feet You know

00:41:06.659 --> 00:41:09.179
that poem footprints, you know why I only saw

00:41:09.179 --> 00:41:12.000
one set here is where he carried you Well, sometimes

00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.360
you'll see deep gouges where he dragged you kicking

00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.159
and screaming And that's okay because he's our

00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:18.800
creator and he knows how to do this lovingly

00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.840
with us And I know that the take on forgiveness

00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.320
a lot of people struggle with because people

00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.480
feel that that because they're still angry or

00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:28.179
because they're still sad or because they don't

00:41:28.179 --> 00:41:30.800
trust the person that they can't forgive them.

00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:33.119
And that literally has nothing to do with it.

00:41:33.539 --> 00:41:35.920
It is everything about saying that I reserve

00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.360
judgment for God. I am not going to be the one

00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.320
that punishes you. And that is what forgiveness

00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.539
in God's eyes is, is I remove my hands from this

00:41:45.539 --> 00:41:48.179
person's throat. I remove myself from being the

00:41:48.179 --> 00:41:51.440
one that has to see this guy suffer. And that's

00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:52.960
where forgiveness comes from. It doesn't mean

00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.699
that you trust this person. It doesn't mean you're

00:41:54.699 --> 00:41:56.400
not angry about what happened. It doesn't mean

00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:59.159
that you're not upset in any way. It just means

00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.280
that you remove the burden of responsibility

00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:03.739
from yourself and place it squarely on the judge's

00:42:03.739 --> 00:42:09.639
shoulders. Yeah. You mentioned themes and the

00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.300
surrender is the thing that stuck out to me because

00:42:12.300 --> 00:42:15.670
when you give God that full surrender, the Episode

00:42:15.670 --> 00:42:18.190
we recorded last week. That was when she got

00:42:18.190 --> 00:42:22.469
healed completely of ms And I shared with her

00:42:22.469 --> 00:42:25.230
that when I was in the I can't do this anymore

00:42:25.230 --> 00:42:28.050
I was healed of 17 years of chronic neck and

00:42:28.050 --> 00:42:30.769
shoulder pain So that full surrender is where

00:42:30.769 --> 00:42:34.250
God can step in and move in the miraculous and

00:42:34.250 --> 00:42:38.170
then change everything And I think our whole

00:42:38.170 --> 00:42:40.949
family was in desperation when our son had OCD

00:42:40.949 --> 00:42:44.400
that was Crippling OCD and we prayed over him

00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:46.679
and he's been OCD free this three years now.

00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:50.960
Mm -hmm Wow Yeah, you know it feels like you

00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:55.639
are You're giving up something that really you're

00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:00.519
allowing him To take total control and he will

00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.300
he has such a better plan for you You know and

00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:08.019
it can feel scary, but that's the key I praise

00:43:08.019 --> 00:43:10.500
god for what he did in your family. That's amazing.

00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:13.320
He's always been pretty good to us. He knows

00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:17.300
that i'm a knucklehead We're all knuckleheads.

00:43:17.340 --> 00:43:19.380
I I can't tell you many times I have prayed,

00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.179
you know, forgive me lord for I am evil and stupid

00:43:22.179 --> 00:43:25.300
and I I swear to you his answer has always been

00:43:25.300 --> 00:43:31.380
I know I love you Well, if we have time there's

00:43:31.380 --> 00:43:33.159
one more piece that's kind of neat that i'd like

00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:35.639
to share if we have time if we don't We'll make

00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:39.690
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00:44:02.769 --> 00:44:06.119
I'd love to connect with you. Speaking of this,

00:44:06.420 --> 00:44:09.940
I think a lot of people don't typically get closure

00:44:09.940 --> 00:44:12.480
on these things. Maybe you have a parent that

00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:14.780
passes away before you ever reconcile here on

00:44:14.780 --> 00:44:17.699
this side of heaven. But in this situation, I

00:44:17.699 --> 00:44:19.260
mentioned that it wasn't my first vision. The

00:44:19.260 --> 00:44:21.280
first vision I had, it was strange. I was waking

00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:24.139
up and I saw on the wall when I woke up, Miracle

00:44:24.139 --> 00:44:27.400
at Exxon. And then it was like a newspaper heading

00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.900
and it disappeared. And I'm like, what in the

00:44:30.900 --> 00:44:35.679
world was that? Exxon, like why am I supposed

00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.000
to be like, I didn't know what that meant at

00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.500
all. Yeah, I think of gas station. Yeah, yeah.

00:44:41.860 --> 00:44:45.679
Well, it was a year. It took me a year to forgive

00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.980
that guy. I'm not proud of that. It took me a

00:44:47.980 --> 00:44:51.079
year and I could still get triggered. Some might

00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.059
say that's quick. Well, yeah, I guess. Yeah,

00:44:54.099 --> 00:44:57.880
but but it took me a full year and I remember.

00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.199
I had to be in Bible study and I hadn't talked

00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.599
about it in a long time. And then my Bible, we

00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:04.579
had a wonderful morning and I didn't say anything.

00:45:04.659 --> 00:45:06.539
And then my friend texted me later that day and

00:45:06.539 --> 00:45:08.380
she said, you know, I didn't ask you, how are

00:45:08.380 --> 00:45:10.940
you doing with everything? And, and I said, you

00:45:10.940 --> 00:45:12.860
know, I just, I didn't want to take over the

00:45:12.860 --> 00:45:15.159
study and talk about it. And, and I said, you

00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.579
know, I really feel like I truly have forgiven.

00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:21.349
And I said, I'm just so grateful. I'm so that

00:45:21.349 --> 00:45:23.190
was another thing. And I had to focus my mind

00:45:23.190 --> 00:45:25.309
on what I was grateful for. And that would help

00:45:25.309 --> 00:45:28.829
take me out of the anger. Even if it's just like

00:45:28.829 --> 00:45:31.630
clean water, shelves are like, just make it,

00:45:31.750 --> 00:45:33.269
take every thought captive. You know, that's

00:45:33.269 --> 00:45:35.170
what that means. You know, I'm going to be grateful.

00:45:35.469 --> 00:45:37.989
And I told her, I said, I've forgiven. I really

00:45:37.989 --> 00:45:39.929
have. And it feels good. And I said, I know that

00:45:39.929 --> 00:45:43.010
God has a plan and I'm trusting it and I'm just

00:45:43.010 --> 00:45:45.530
in a better place. And then I left the house

00:45:45.530 --> 00:45:48.070
within five minutes. I'm face to face with my

00:45:48.070 --> 00:45:50.800
chiropractor at a gas station. It's the only

00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.760
time I've seen him since this happened and I

00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:57.519
saw him first and I'm not gonna lie to you After

00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:59.739
just saying that and I have was playing worship

00:45:59.739 --> 00:46:01.500
music and praising God and it was a beautiful

00:46:01.500 --> 00:46:04.199
day and here I am like I see him and suddenly

00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:06.000
it's like I don't know if I'm gonna throat punch

00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:10.159
him Hug him or just sit here and cry like my

00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:13.059
bottom lip was crib. I was like, oh my goodness

00:46:13.059 --> 00:46:16.699
I couldn't believe my visceral reaction And I

00:46:16.699 --> 00:46:20.559
said, Holy Spirit, I need you right now. I need

00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.559
you. And I had one voice on one shoulder saying,

00:46:23.780 --> 00:46:25.699
don't do this. You're going to mess this up.

00:46:25.780 --> 00:46:29.039
You've come so far. And I didn't know which voice

00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:33.139
was which. I was just a mess. And I decided to

00:46:33.139 --> 00:46:34.400
go up to him and I thought, I don't even know

00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.320
if it's still inside or not. I thought, I'm going

00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:40.019
to go and just trust God. And I went up and I

00:46:40.019 --> 00:46:43.460
fallen. And he was like, Julie, he was shocked

00:46:43.460 --> 00:46:47.090
to see me. And I was honest with him. I said,

00:46:47.210 --> 00:46:51.429
hi. I was trying so hard not to cry. I did not

00:46:51.429 --> 00:46:54.449
throat punch him. Thank God. But I just said,

00:46:54.869 --> 00:46:57.210
I spoke from my heart, like the Bible says. And

00:46:57.210 --> 00:47:01.309
I said, can I talk to you for a second? And I

00:47:01.309 --> 00:47:04.090
said, I really can't tell you what this last

00:47:04.090 --> 00:47:07.130
year has been like for me. And I said, but I

00:47:07.130 --> 00:47:11.710
just want to tell you that I forgive you. And

00:47:11.710 --> 00:47:14.989
I said, I do feel like, You caused that injury

00:47:14.989 --> 00:47:17.329
to me and and I wanted to come in the office

00:47:17.329 --> 00:47:19.389
and I felt like that would be very therapeutic

00:47:19.389 --> 00:47:22.190
for me to be able to use it for something good

00:47:22.190 --> 00:47:24.409
and Maybe somebody could learn something else

00:47:24.409 --> 00:47:25.909
and I thought it would be healing I said that

00:47:25.909 --> 00:47:29.469
I was really hurt when you didn't respond and

00:47:29.469 --> 00:47:31.550
Lo and behold two days later We're in his office

00:47:31.550 --> 00:47:34.090
talking and one thing you told me is it was we

00:47:34.090 --> 00:47:36.250
were leaving and I won't share all of that Conversation

00:47:36.250 --> 00:47:38.050
because it's private but I will say I was very

00:47:38.050 --> 00:47:42.139
surprised at what he said But when I was leaving,

00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:43.480
he said, you know what's crazy? He's like, I

00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.340
wish we could have had this conversation a year

00:47:45.340 --> 00:47:49.539
ago. And I was like, oh, no, no, no. That's exactly

00:47:49.539 --> 00:47:52.239
how it was supposed to be. And he said, you know

00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.639
what's crazy? He's like, I didn't need gas. I'm

00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:57.420
like, what do you mean? He goes, I had three

00:47:57.420 --> 00:47:59.820
quarters of the tank. I have no idea why I stopped

00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:02.619
that day. And I remember, I didn't tell you the

00:48:02.619 --> 00:48:06.059
best part. When I was leaving that first meeting

00:48:06.059 --> 00:48:09.219
after we first talked, I looked up. and it was

00:48:09.219 --> 00:48:13.880
an exhalation. And I'm telling you, God, I don't

00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:18.000
know, I think He's just reminding us, hey, I'm

00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:20.840
in this, you know, like, why get that sign before?

00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:24.639
I don't know, you know, but... And I wish everybody

00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:26.420
could have that moment. I can't tell you it was,

00:48:26.579 --> 00:48:28.480
and I don't, maybe it was a reward. I was being

00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.639
blessed with that moment because I prayed for

00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.800
him and it was my obedience, you know, and, and

00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.579
I was trying and he saw me in that. I don't know,

00:48:37.780 --> 00:48:41.980
but to get that was really a cool blessing. A

00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:45.360
closure. Yeah. Yeah. Clearly God wanted you to

00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.300
have that. He needs you to experience that moment.

00:48:49.300 --> 00:48:51.219
And he wanted to call your attention to that

00:48:51.219 --> 00:48:54.739
was a good moment for you. Yeah, so much so that

00:48:54.739 --> 00:49:00.360
he called it a miracle Yeah Yeah, he's in all

00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:06.900
the little details and he is there Wow It's interesting

00:49:06.900 --> 00:49:10.840
because We don't often know what we're supposed

00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:13.099
to do when we're called to do something But if

00:49:13.099 --> 00:49:15.840
we take one step at a time, he'll reveal the

00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.349
next step to take Yes, like with podcasting.

00:49:19.349 --> 00:49:21.329
No one knows what they're doing They go to YouTube

00:49:21.329 --> 00:49:24.409
University to see how to do it and everyone ends

00:49:24.409 --> 00:49:27.010
up doing it differently It just however the Holy

00:49:27.010 --> 00:49:29.889
Spirit reveals it to them. Well, if you're a

00:49:29.889 --> 00:49:33.190
Christian anyway Well, you think about that verse,

00:49:33.250 --> 00:49:35.389
you know lamp unto my feet, you know, it only

00:49:35.389 --> 00:49:38.440
illuminates the next cut And I think honestly,

00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:41.039
if we saw the whole plan, we would be like, oh,

00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:45.219
no way. We would be overwhelmed. But it's like

00:49:45.219 --> 00:49:47.739
a big adventure. And it's really exciting. And

00:49:47.739 --> 00:49:50.380
it gives you that boost of encouragement to do

00:49:50.380 --> 00:49:52.559
the next step and see what else happens next.

00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:57.659
Oh, yeah. It is exciting. It really is. It is.

00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:02.139
He is in the details. I was releasing a video

00:50:02.139 --> 00:50:05.099
this week. Well, we released an episode and I

00:50:05.099 --> 00:50:08.420
found out her birthday was that week and I was

00:50:08.420 --> 00:50:11.300
like, that's so cool. And then conveniently her

00:50:11.300 --> 00:50:13.860
husband, we released his episode earlier this

00:50:13.860 --> 00:50:16.519
year and it was released on his birthday. And

00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.420
so God worked it all out that we recorded in

00:50:19.420 --> 00:50:21.340
such a way that it released on their birthday

00:50:21.340 --> 00:50:24.579
weeks. And it was just really neat that God did

00:50:24.579 --> 00:50:28.400
that for them. And it was just really cool. Oh,

00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.679
yeah, He's in all those details. So yeah, I hope

00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:33.000
that people can get a couple of things from what

00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:35.599
I've shared today that would encourage them if

00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:37.559
they're having a hard time forgiving or maybe

00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:39.780
they're being called to do something and they

00:50:39.780 --> 00:50:42.699
feel like, I don't have what it takes. You don't

00:50:42.699 --> 00:50:45.300
need to. He's going to give it to you. You just

00:50:45.300 --> 00:50:48.019
have to take the first step. Yeah. Yeah. No,

00:50:48.019 --> 00:50:50.699
a lot of good content there. You know, be okay

00:50:50.699 --> 00:50:53.500
with being ugly with God. He knows your heart.

00:50:53.619 --> 00:50:57.469
I mean, it's foolish to try to hold back. And,

00:50:57.510 --> 00:50:59.110
you know, he wants the intimate relationship

00:50:59.110 --> 00:51:00.989
with us. And if he knows we're hurting and we

00:51:00.989 --> 00:51:02.909
got the big feels and we come to want the little

00:51:02.909 --> 00:51:05.670
feels, he knows we're holding back. We're only

00:51:05.670 --> 00:51:10.789
trying to fool ourselves. You know, and then,

00:51:10.789 --> 00:51:13.710
and sometimes it is ugly for us. Sometimes we

00:51:13.710 --> 00:51:15.769
are going through something. Sometimes it isn't

00:51:15.769 --> 00:51:18.730
pretty. Sometimes it's painful. And that doesn't

00:51:18.730 --> 00:51:20.949
mean that God is not with us, even if he feels

00:51:20.949 --> 00:51:24.230
far away. I like to think of it like a painter.

00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:26.280
You know when they're painting and they're they're

00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:27.760
painting up clothes and they can't really see

00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:29.820
the whole painting because they're so close to

00:51:29.820 --> 00:51:32.099
it But when they take a step back, they realize

00:51:32.099 --> 00:51:35.059
what they have I think it's a matter of perspective

00:51:35.059 --> 00:51:37.719
and we feel that god is not with us. It's because

00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:41.440
he is around us completely And we can't see him

00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:43.780
because he is smothering our vision with himself

00:51:43.780 --> 00:51:46.340
And it's hard for us to see that because we're

00:51:46.340 --> 00:51:48.860
not used to someone being there in our most vulnerable

00:51:48.860 --> 00:51:51.480
points We're not used to people loving us through

00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:57.019
the ugliness that we are Yeah, so good. I hope

00:51:57.019 --> 00:51:59.380
people felt the Holy Spirit like I did I was

00:51:59.380 --> 00:52:03.539
in tears half the time Because it just it's just

00:52:03.539 --> 00:52:06.219
a warm looks like a warm hug from heaven. I love

00:52:06.219 --> 00:52:10.639
it My husband was laughing at me Looking for

00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:14.500
the tissues. I'm like I already have one She

00:52:14.500 --> 00:52:16.500
has moved to tears by the Holy Spirit often and

00:52:16.500 --> 00:52:20.280
I am not But what I am it's over like the silliest

00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:23.159
things that I can't explain and it's so weird

00:52:24.319 --> 00:52:27.739
I work on any I'm an ambulance driver. So when

00:52:27.739 --> 00:52:29.840
you were all your little story I know I was keeping

00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:31.539
up with it My wife is getting like weird looks

00:52:31.539 --> 00:52:33.099
because she didn't understand all the things

00:52:33.099 --> 00:52:35.860
but I was like, no I get it Right down to the

00:52:35.860 --> 00:52:37.980
part where I love being called an ambulance driver

00:52:37.980 --> 00:52:46.380
Yeah So where can people find you and your book

00:52:46.380 --> 00:52:51.860
because that's good stuff Oh, yeah, I'm everywhere.

00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:54.719
I'm on YouTube, Everyday Miracles podcast. I'm

00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:58.579
also on Spotify and all the podcast sites. Yeah,

00:52:58.579 --> 00:53:01.840
and the book is on Amazon. I think it's Burns

00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:03.699
and Noble. You can get it there too. It's called

00:53:03.699 --> 00:53:08.559
Everyday Miracles, and it's got 32 amazing testimonies.

00:53:08.739 --> 00:53:11.340
And then it has my, at the end, there's like

00:53:11.340 --> 00:53:13.179
steps to grow your faith. There's a, you know,

00:53:13.179 --> 00:53:16.960
you can make a decision to accept Jesus and more.

00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:19.460
It's got a lot of different things. of areas

00:53:19.460 --> 00:53:22.119
for reflection after each testimony to think

00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:24.940
about your own life, whatever theme was in that

00:53:24.940 --> 00:53:28.659
story. So it's really, people seem to really

00:53:28.659 --> 00:53:30.960
love it right now. It's exciting to see people

00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:34.780
get it in their hands. So it's been a joy. It's

00:53:34.780 --> 00:53:37.780
all Him. He gets all the glory. Yeah. Praise

00:53:37.780 --> 00:53:43.880
God for that. So do you have a Bible verse that

00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:48.559
anchored you through all that in your life? Yes,

00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:52.380
Isaiah 41, 10, like I said, so do not fear for

00:53:52.380 --> 00:53:54.719
I am with you. Do not be dismayed for I am your

00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.960
God. It's just a reminder that whatever we face,

00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:01.480
and that's the first part of it, but it's just

00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:03.519
a reminder that no matter what we face, He's

00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:08.420
got us. And you just, I don't know, He's with

00:54:08.420 --> 00:54:13.150
us. Just to back you up. You don't have to know

00:54:13.150 --> 00:54:16.650
the verse in the chapter and the book it's in

00:54:16.650 --> 00:54:18.610
necessarily as long as you know that it's in

00:54:18.610 --> 00:54:21.050
the bible That is what you're judged by like

00:54:21.050 --> 00:54:22.809
even jesus when he challenged the devil back.

00:54:22.809 --> 00:54:24.550
He said it is written He didn't say where it

00:54:24.550 --> 00:54:26.269
was written. He didn't say which prophet wrote

00:54:26.269 --> 00:54:29.329
it Just that it was there that it was written.

00:54:29.369 --> 00:54:31.230
That's that's what's important that you know

00:54:31.230 --> 00:54:33.789
Yeah, it's in your heart and i'm not saying for

00:54:33.789 --> 00:54:35.590
those people that know chapter and verse that

00:54:35.590 --> 00:54:38.980
they're wrong I'm just saying that is like extra

00:54:38.980 --> 00:54:40.760
credit. You don't get the extra credit. You got

00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:44.019
the five gold stars, but you only need the one

00:54:44.019 --> 00:54:45.880
gold star. And just knowing that it's in the

00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.940
Bible is your one gold star. Yeah. Thank you.

00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:52.079
Well, thank you for coming on, Julie. This has

00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:55.079
been amazing. Well, thanks for having me. It's

00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.840
been an honor. Yeah. We really appreciate you

00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:00.599
sharing your story, the miracles that it is.

00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:02.619
I don't know if like people can Google some of

00:55:02.619 --> 00:55:04.340
the things that you had to go through and what

00:55:04.340 --> 00:55:07.219
you actually did. You know being a nurse and

00:55:07.219 --> 00:55:09.639
anesthetist you get paid to watch people sleep

00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:12.900
And intubating people which is putting an airway

00:55:12.900 --> 00:55:15.480
into somebody which is it can be a dangerous

00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.039
thing to do You know and the downfall that you

00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.039
went through the anger that you felt that the

00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:25.219
complete and utter lifestyle shift that you went

00:55:25.219 --> 00:55:28.760
through after hardship, especially Is an amazing

00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:31.860
testimony of god's goodness in your life an amazing

00:55:31.860 --> 00:55:35.260
testimony that He has a plan and a purpose for

00:55:35.260 --> 00:55:39.980
you. He has one for everybody and that you responded

00:55:39.980 --> 00:55:44.099
in the correct way that you didn't know, but

00:55:44.099 --> 00:55:47.519
you still did. And that's something to be commended.

00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:51.960
Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for the work

00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:54.000
that you guys are doing is it's important right

00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:56.659
now. And God will use it. He's I know he's blessing

00:55:56.659 --> 00:55:59.000
people through every episode that you're doing.

00:55:59.230 --> 00:56:02.170
It all counts for him. Apparently, we need some

00:56:02.170 --> 00:56:06.610
more Billy Grahams out there on podcasts. Well,

00:56:06.750 --> 00:56:09.010
there's a lot more coming in. It's exciting.

00:56:09.070 --> 00:56:10.590
I've been to some of the conferences, and it's

00:56:10.590 --> 00:56:12.630
really exciting to see the new ones coming up.

00:56:12.869 --> 00:56:14.670
Like, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm like,

00:56:14.710 --> 00:56:18.369
I didn't either. Yeah, I know what it does. We're

00:56:18.369 --> 00:56:21.269
all just doing our best and letting him lead.

00:56:21.510 --> 00:56:24.010
So it's a journey. I want to go to that next

00:56:24.010 --> 00:56:28.050
year with you guys. God willing. Yeah, it was

00:56:28.050 --> 00:56:31.380
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00:57:11.980 --> 00:57:14.699
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