WEBVTT 00:00:00.430 --> 00:00:05.009 I was so broken. I felt like I was just at the 00:00:05.009 --> 00:00:09.730 bottom of what I was at. And in the process of 00:00:09.730 --> 00:00:13.210 really stripping down everything, I left that 00:00:13.210 --> 00:00:17.250 five months knowing that God was like, listen. 00:00:17.500 --> 00:00:19.879 I never asked you to carry all of this alone. 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:23.699 We had to strip everything off that I was choosing 00:00:23.699 --> 00:00:26.960 to carry alone and not giving to Him. It was 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:30.059 such a season of Him saying, I see you. I never 00:00:30.059 --> 00:00:32.320 asked you to carry that. Let's take that off. 00:00:43.130 --> 00:00:46.149 stories of hope, healing and miracles that will 00:00:46.149 --> 00:00:48.549 strengthen your faith. No matter what you're 00:00:48.549 --> 00:00:50.770 walking through, we want to remind you that God 00:00:50.770 --> 00:00:53.649 is good and he's still moving today. Let's dive 00:00:53.649 --> 00:01:01.990 in. Welcome everyone to another inspiring episode 00:01:01.990 --> 00:01:04.489 of the God's Goodness podcast. Today we have 00:01:04.489 --> 00:01:07.650 a truly special guest joining us, Holly Peele. 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.519 Holly is a dynamic author, kingdom culture advocate, 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:14.040 and co -host of the Kingdom Seekers community. 00:01:14.659 --> 00:01:17.040 She's passionate about helping people break free 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.480 from limiting beliefs and step boldly into their 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:22.099 God -given purpose. You may know her from the 00:01:22.099 --> 00:01:25.019 31 Day Wisdom Challenge or her empowering book, 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:27.900 Own Your Shift, where she shares eight essential 00:01:27.900 --> 00:01:31.280 steps to move from stuck to success. Holly's 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:34.219 journey as a mompreneur and kingdom entrepreneur 00:01:34.219 --> 00:01:37.420 is filled with real, raw, and relatable wisdom 00:01:37.420 --> 00:01:40.200 that will encourage you to reignite your dreams 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:43.379 and live with purpose. So get ready for a powerful 00:01:43.379 --> 00:01:46.680 conversation about faith, transformation, and 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:49.200 embracing God's goodness in every season of life. 00:01:49.780 --> 00:01:51.980 Thank you so much for being with us today, Holly. 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:55.540 Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited 00:01:55.540 --> 00:01:59.159 to be here. So Holly didn't know me from Adam, 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:02.379 but when she heard she was referred by past guest, 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:04.879 fellow kingdom seeker, and co -author of Cup 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:07.340 of Chicken Soup for the Soul, Barry Spilchuk, 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.460 she decided to take the chance. So before we 00:02:10.460 --> 00:02:12.580 get into it Holly, will you please start us off 00:02:12.580 --> 00:02:16.219 with an opening prayer? Yeah, of course. Jesus, 00:02:16.340 --> 00:02:20.120 I thank you so much for this opportunity and 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.039 for the people listening. And I just thank you 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:25.960 that you care about how we show up and you do 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:29.919 so from a place of love and grace and kindness. 00:02:30.580 --> 00:02:33.699 And you care because you know that our stories 00:02:33.699 --> 00:02:36.580 will impact other people. You know that our stories 00:02:36.580 --> 00:02:39.659 will add hope and inspire them because what you're 00:02:39.659 --> 00:02:41.900 willing to do in one of our lives, what you've 00:02:41.900 --> 00:02:44.599 been willing to do in my life, I know. it's not 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:46.979 just for me. I know that it's for anyone who 00:02:46.979 --> 00:02:50.719 takes it as a thread of hope in their own lives. 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.400 So I thank you, Jesus, for this opportunity to 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:57.479 show up and share how you've moved mightily in 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:00.560 my life so that others may hear and have hope 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:03.219 for wherever they are at in their life. I just 00:03:03.219 --> 00:03:06.819 ask that you would allow words to flow easily 00:03:06.819 --> 00:03:10.060 and fluidly and that you would be honored and 00:03:10.060 --> 00:03:13.139 glorified and everything shared here today. Amen. 00:03:13.259 --> 00:03:16.819 Amen. Thank you. Thank you for that. So Holly, 00:03:17.020 --> 00:03:19.520 before we dive into the work that you're doing 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.259 now, the book, the community, all of it, I'd 00:03:23.259 --> 00:03:25.259 love for our listeners to hear the journey behind 00:03:25.259 --> 00:03:28.159 that. Can you take us back to a time when your 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:31.419 faith was tested, when things felt unclear, stuck, 00:03:31.460 --> 00:03:34.080 or even broken, and walk us through how God met 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:37.990 you there and began to shift your story? Yeah, 00:03:37.990 --> 00:03:42.430 of course. So I feel so honored and So grateful 00:03:42.430 --> 00:03:46.090 to be where I am today. It doesn't come with 00:03:46.090 --> 00:03:48.409 you know, it's not all easy and it's not all 00:03:48.409 --> 00:03:50.830 glamorous There's a lot of really hard moments, 00:03:50.830 --> 00:03:56.370 but I would say back in 2017 is kind of when 00:03:56.370 --> 00:03:59.770 a big portion of this started to transition for 00:03:59.770 --> 00:04:03.210 me where I was at in my life my husband and I 00:04:03.210 --> 00:04:07.590 have owned storage facilities for quite some 00:04:07.590 --> 00:04:10.090 time. I want to say maybe like 2010 or something 00:04:10.090 --> 00:04:12.490 like that, but that doesn't matter. We've owned 00:04:12.490 --> 00:04:16.670 storage facilities for a little while and around 00:04:16.670 --> 00:04:22.670 2016 timeframe we started noticing that our storage 00:04:22.670 --> 00:04:27.250 facility was really not doing well and it came 00:04:27.250 --> 00:04:30.910 down to a point in time where I had to make a 00:04:30.910 --> 00:04:34.889 decision that was really scary and really big 00:04:34.889 --> 00:04:38.629 for me and I just to move away from my husband 00:04:38.629 --> 00:04:41.910 and my three -year -old son at the time and go 00:04:41.910 --> 00:04:44.009 to our storage facility which was about a five 00:04:44.009 --> 00:04:48.230 -hour drive from our home and I was going to 00:04:48.230 --> 00:04:51.810 choose to release our manager at the time who 00:04:51.810 --> 00:04:55.629 we found was you know stealing hundreds of thousands 00:04:55.629 --> 00:04:58.509 of dollars up to that point in time it was quite 00:04:58.509 --> 00:05:01.750 disastrous and I was going to release her and 00:05:01.750 --> 00:05:04.129 take over managing the day -to -day business 00:05:04.129 --> 00:05:07.180 and get our business this back up off the ground 00:05:07.180 --> 00:05:09.800 and hopes that it wouldn't come to needing to 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:13.240 file bankruptcy or something like that. So I 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.800 moved up there and lived up there for five months. 00:05:17.060 --> 00:05:20.360 And, you know, my husband sings my praises that 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:23.779 I really like saved our family in that season. 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.639 But I could sing his praises equally as much 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.560 because not only was he working full time, being 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.120 a full time dad, because I left our son with 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:37.699 him and driving up drive every single weekend. 00:05:38.180 --> 00:05:41.420 So really I could say he was the one holding 00:05:41.420 --> 00:05:44.540 it down. Well, I was just focusing on that, but. 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:48.839 When I was there, I was stripped away from every 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:51.680 person. I didn't see family. I didn't have any 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:55.500 friends. I was in a completely remote, literally 00:05:55.500 --> 00:06:00.040 a remote area. The town was, you know, very small 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.420 and outside of anything that I had known or grown 00:06:03.420 --> 00:06:07.560 up doing. And in that season, God just started 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:11.990 stripping away from me anything that I thought 00:06:11.990 --> 00:06:17.449 I knew. I really started to unravel years and 00:06:17.449 --> 00:06:21.170 layers of hurt and pain and trauma. And when 00:06:21.170 --> 00:06:25.060 you have nothing else to do but work. physical 00:06:25.060 --> 00:06:28.000 manual labor work, which I grew up doing. My 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:29.819 dad owned a construction company. My parents 00:06:29.819 --> 00:06:32.040 owned a construction company my entire life. 00:06:32.060 --> 00:06:34.480 So I was used to it. I was used to working hard, 00:06:34.980 --> 00:06:37.519 but there's something different when it's all 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.199 you have to do and that there would be days and 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.879 moments in time. I would be like moving sandbags 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.079 and doing things and just break out in tears 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:50.579 because I was so broken. I felt like I was just 00:06:50.579 --> 00:06:54.740 at the bottom of what I was at. And in the process 00:06:54.740 --> 00:06:59.100 of really stripping down everything, I left that 00:06:59.100 --> 00:07:03.139 five months knowing that God was like, listen. 00:07:03.420 --> 00:07:05.779 I never asked you to carry all of this alone. 00:07:06.139 --> 00:07:09.579 We had to strip everything off that I was choosing 00:07:09.579 --> 00:07:12.860 to carry alone and not giving to him. It was 00:07:12.860 --> 00:07:15.959 such a season of him saying, I see you. I never 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.180 asked you to carry that. Let's take that off. 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:22.639 And there was a grief. There was a process, a 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:25.420 healing process I had to go through as every 00:07:25.420 --> 00:07:28.680 layer and every burden that I was carrying got 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:32.819 stripped away and taken off. And so Coming out 00:07:32.819 --> 00:07:38.120 of that five months, I gifted myself a week at 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:42.040 a prophetic school in Bethel. And I went and 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:44.019 for those, you know, who might know it's School 00:07:44.019 --> 00:07:46.920 of Prophets and Chris Valtin was leading it and 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.879 I knew I had to go. And in the process of going 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:53.180 there, I was like, okay, this is where I could 00:07:53.180 --> 00:07:57.579 really get built back up. And little did I know 00:07:57.579 --> 00:08:00.019 that it would actually be the very thing that 00:08:00.019 --> 00:08:03.160 stripped. the last of it, the very last layer 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:06.100 of the thing I was carrying, which was my husband 00:08:06.100 --> 00:08:10.420 becoming a first responder. And it led to me 00:08:10.420 --> 00:08:12.879 going through a very radical encounter with the 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:17.079 ward there and him naming me, like calling me 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:19.939 carried. He's like, I carry you. And so that 00:08:19.939 --> 00:08:22.300 was a really big theme. It was actually what 00:08:22.300 --> 00:08:24.220 I was going to call my book. I was going to call 00:08:24.220 --> 00:08:28.120 it from carried to called. And I was talking 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:30.279 to a friend and they're like, no, but you can 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:32.899 actually be both at the same time. And I was 00:08:32.899 --> 00:08:36.059 like, you're right. Oh my gosh. The and. You're 00:08:36.059 --> 00:08:39.179 so right. It's the and. I can be carried and 00:08:39.179 --> 00:08:43.200 I can be called at the same time. And so it transitioned 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:46.929 into own your shift because. We constantly have 00:08:46.929 --> 00:08:50.590 to stay in that place of Lord strip me away from 00:08:50.590 --> 00:08:53.230 anything that I'm carrying that you told me not 00:08:53.230 --> 00:08:56.009 to carry. Like anything that I picked up that 00:08:56.009 --> 00:08:58.730 you're supposed to carry. But at the same time, 00:08:58.730 --> 00:09:00.870 I know I'm supposed to walk in my assignment. 00:09:01.070 --> 00:09:03.230 I know I'm supposed to walk in the thing that 00:09:03.230 --> 00:09:07.149 you have called me to. And so I learned in this, 00:09:07.149 --> 00:09:09.850 you know, at this prophetic conference that I 00:09:09.850 --> 00:09:12.629 was to go home and, you know, repent to my husband 00:09:12.629 --> 00:09:16.139 and he was supposed to take a job as a first 00:09:16.139 --> 00:09:19.899 responder, leaving what felt like, at the time, 00:09:19.980 --> 00:09:23.779 the only stability in our life of his very great 00:09:23.779 --> 00:09:27.820 chief financial officer position. At a company 00:09:27.820 --> 00:09:31.559 he'd helped build to $70 million, and I was like, 00:09:31.580 --> 00:09:34.440 man, okay, God, you're really taking it all away. 00:09:34.740 --> 00:09:39.120 Like, wow. and so I totally just felt stripped 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.220 of everything and and went on just kind of a 00:09:42.220 --> 00:09:45.080 journey over the next couple of months and ended 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:49.460 up finding Pedro in 100x and and within months 00:09:49.460 --> 00:09:52.929 after that he He asked me to come onto his team. 00:09:53.169 --> 00:09:56.850 And from there, from my yes, from my obedience, 00:09:57.230 --> 00:09:59.690 which is what I truly been learning over the 00:09:59.690 --> 00:10:03.090 past six years is, is my obedience matters more 00:10:03.090 --> 00:10:06.409 to him than my performance. My obedience matters 00:10:06.409 --> 00:10:09.409 more to him than, you know, what I say I'm going 00:10:09.409 --> 00:10:11.809 to do and how I say I'm going to show up, but 00:10:11.809 --> 00:10:13.909 then don't actually follow through with that. 00:10:14.090 --> 00:10:17.750 And so it's led me down this path of learning 00:10:17.750 --> 00:10:20.149 and identifying that in the kingdom, I get to 00:10:20.149 --> 00:10:23.200 have both. I can be carried by him. I don't have 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:26.919 to do it myself and I can also feel called to 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:29.539 the assignments that he has for me and I can 00:10:29.539 --> 00:10:32.600 show up with a full heart and passion to see 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:35.639 those things through which then led to you know 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:39.039 me writing my book because I had truly become 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:43.990 the message of Choosing to own my shift day in 00:10:43.990 --> 00:10:47.750 and day out through seasons, through years, through 00:10:47.750 --> 00:10:50.809 months, whatever timeframe. It was always going 00:10:50.809 --> 00:10:53.889 back to this place of Lord, I know that you're 00:10:53.889 --> 00:10:57.629 superior in everything and I know I can press 00:10:57.629 --> 00:11:00.970 into and rely on you when I don't feel like I 00:11:00.970 --> 00:11:04.389 have it all together. And it often comes in those 00:11:04.389 --> 00:11:07.789 seasons and times where he's expanding us and 00:11:07.789 --> 00:11:11.429 calling us to be the best, bigger. next version 00:11:11.429 --> 00:11:14.549 of ourselves. And it's funny because I feel like 00:11:14.549 --> 00:11:16.809 I'm currently in another one of those seasons 00:11:16.809 --> 00:11:19.690 right now, where it's like, OK, Lord, I feel 00:11:19.690 --> 00:11:23.730 like we're going back to this stripping down 00:11:23.730 --> 00:11:28.049 of identities, this stripping down of responsibilities 00:11:28.049 --> 00:11:31.990 and tasks and roles and extracurriculars and 00:11:31.990 --> 00:11:34.769 friends and the things that I thought were for 00:11:34.769 --> 00:11:37.590 now, but he is saying they weren't. I carried 00:11:37.590 --> 00:11:40.210 them too long. And so it's been just a constant 00:11:40.210 --> 00:11:43.570 theme in my life, even before our storage facility 00:11:43.570 --> 00:11:48.470 situation in 2017. But yeah, so just getting 00:11:48.470 --> 00:11:50.870 to this place where I'm like, yes, Lord, I'm 00:11:50.870 --> 00:11:53.429 here out of obedience. What do you want? What's 00:11:53.429 --> 00:11:57.149 next? Constantly operating from that place of 00:11:57.149 --> 00:12:01.200 shifting and knowing that. He sees me. He never 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:04.379 asked me to carry it all alone and that he is 00:12:04.379 --> 00:12:07.379 there. And so, yeah, that was kind of where it 00:12:07.379 --> 00:12:09.879 was where it was born. It wasn't born from a 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.840 platform. It wasn't born from, you know. Oh, 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:16.600 I already had the limelight. No, it was built 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.860 from a breakdown in my life to where I felt like 00:12:20.860 --> 00:12:24.779 I was becoming the message. I was becoming a 00:12:24.779 --> 00:12:29.200 messenger worthy of sharing my story. And I feel 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:33.039 like so many of us... don't realize that we are 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:36.200 worthy of sharing our stories. We are worthy 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.620 of sharing those broken parts of our lives because 00:12:39.620 --> 00:12:41.980 when they are broken, there's hope for it to 00:12:41.980 --> 00:12:45.500 become beautiful. When there are broken parts 00:12:45.500 --> 00:12:48.500 of us, there's an opportunity for God to pick 00:12:48.500 --> 00:12:51.759 up the pieces and bring them together and say, 00:12:51.779 --> 00:12:56.200 wow, look at this masterpiece. And so it's just 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:59.299 a beautiful story of God meeting me and letting 00:12:59.299 --> 00:13:02.350 me. continue to walk out what he has for me. 00:13:02.769 --> 00:13:06.509 So I know that was a little bit of a long answer 00:13:06.509 --> 00:13:09.110 to your question, but that kind of gives the 00:13:09.110 --> 00:13:12.139 whole background. You know, if you have any further 00:13:12.139 --> 00:13:14.580 questions on we can open it up from here, that 00:13:14.580 --> 00:13:18.159 would be great. When you said I treated myself, 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:19.639 I thought you were going to say something like 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:23.720 a spa, but no, it was a school. So you're cool. 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:25.740 You're like that type of person like me, like 00:13:25.740 --> 00:13:28.799 I would treat myself to some education. Yes, 00:13:28.899 --> 00:13:31.539 I am that type of person. You know, one little 00:13:31.539 --> 00:13:35.000 this is just a side note side tidbit. If you 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:38.700 can be anything in life, be hungry. Be hungry 00:13:38.700 --> 00:13:43.799 for what God has. Be hungry, be teachable, and 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:47.340 don't get complacent because in that complacency, 00:13:47.779 --> 00:13:49.840 that's where the Bible tells us, you know, don't 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:53.019 be lukewarm. The hot are cold. The hot are the 00:13:53.019 --> 00:13:55.919 hungry ones. If you're hungry, you're willing 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:58.980 to go after it. It doesn't matter the pain, the 00:13:58.980 --> 00:14:02.059 cost. You're not willing to settle. You're willing 00:14:02.059 --> 00:14:05.179 to go fully and passionately after the next. 00:14:05.299 --> 00:14:07.879 And so, yes, I didn't treat myself to a spa. 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:11.879 I treated myself to a week -long school. Nice. 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:15.580 It reminds me of how you had treated yourself 00:14:15.580 --> 00:14:19.340 to a conference. that Pedro was hosting. And 00:14:19.340 --> 00:14:22.059 then eventually you met him and then it turned 00:14:22.059 --> 00:14:26.519 into your career now. So just one step at a time 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:29.940 leads to the next thing. It does. And I feel 00:14:29.940 --> 00:14:33.779 like that's one area where, you know, people 00:14:33.779 --> 00:14:38.379 have this idea of I'm stuck. And when you're 00:14:38.379 --> 00:14:40.980 hungry, when you're teachable, when you're willing 00:14:40.980 --> 00:14:44.179 to find solutions, you're willing to just take 00:14:44.179 --> 00:14:48.000 the next step. It might not actually be the right 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.059 next step. It might not actually be the right 00:14:51.059 --> 00:14:54.100 step, but if it's just one, you'll know if it's 00:14:54.100 --> 00:14:56.679 the right one or the wrong one. Before you get 00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:59.539 20 steps down the road, you're gonna know if 00:14:59.539 --> 00:15:02.220 you need to align and maybe now take a step to 00:15:02.220 --> 00:15:04.820 the left or a step to the right. Just because 00:15:04.820 --> 00:15:07.559 you're taking a step, it doesn't mean that it's 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:10.120 going to be perfect. It doesn't mean that it's 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.139 always going to work out the way that you thought. 00:15:12.700 --> 00:15:15.659 Oftentimes now it requires you to go diagonally, 00:15:15.659 --> 00:15:19.100 right? Or to the left or to the right. And when 00:15:19.100 --> 00:15:22.000 I did go to that week long school, yes, it did. 00:15:22.059 --> 00:15:25.399 It led me to then attending Pedro's conference 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:28.740 in 2018 because Chris Velton was going to be 00:15:28.740 --> 00:15:32.720 there. And it was just the breadcrumbs, right? 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.200 I knew that the Lord was leading me in the right 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:38.100 direction. And I just continued to say, yes, 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:41.820 I continue to be obedient and show up where I 00:15:41.820 --> 00:15:45.220 felt God was leading me. I love it. Hey, friends, 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:48.309 real quick talk. Not long ago, I had a brutal 00:15:48.309 --> 00:15:51.129 four -day headache. My podcast coach, Jenna Lee 00:15:51.129 --> 00:15:53.350 Samuel, messaged, I wish I could put one of these 00:15:53.350 --> 00:15:57.070 patches on you. I asked, what patches? She sent 00:15:57.070 --> 00:16:00.970 me her episode on LifeWaves X39, non -transdermal 00:16:00.970 --> 00:16:04.490 patches that use light to support the body. No 00:16:04.490 --> 00:16:08.309 drugs, no chemicals, just light. Wildly enough, 00:16:08.610 --> 00:16:10.610 chemical men once prophesied healing would come 00:16:10.610 --> 00:16:13.440 through light. Since trying them, I've had better 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.440 sleep and more energy. And Josh, he's even been 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:18.860 pain -free when he wears them. And the stories 00:16:18.860 --> 00:16:21.240 we're hearing, they truly sound like God moving. 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:24.659 I'm not saying patches replace faith, but if 00:16:24.659 --> 00:16:26.720 you've been praying for breakthrough, maybe this 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:30.159 is part of the answer. Curious? Tap the LifeWave 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:32.480 link in my About section. Of course, they're 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:34.980 not meant to treat or diagnose anything, but 00:16:34.980 --> 00:16:39.019 wow, the testimonies are powerful. Now, back 00:16:39.019 --> 00:16:43.340 to more of God's goodness on the show. It reminds 00:16:43.340 --> 00:16:46.279 me of this. We were doing a Book of the Month 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.600 club in LifeWave and it was Outwitting the Devil 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.480 by Napoleon Hill and he talks about drifters, 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:55.059 the people that aren't leaning in and learning 00:16:55.059 --> 00:16:57.480 more. They're just drifting through life. You 00:16:57.480 --> 00:16:59.740 know, whatever happens, happens. And this is 00:16:59.740 --> 00:17:03.360 like the complete opposite, which is good. Yeah, 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:06.779 I have not read that book and I would absolutely 00:17:06.779 --> 00:17:10.740 agree. Like drifting is... is it can be dangerous, 00:17:10.819 --> 00:17:14.920 you know? It's where we can often, and I say 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:17.640 that because I've been in those seasons. I know 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:20.380 how dangerous it can be when we feel like we're 00:17:20.380 --> 00:17:23.599 drifting emotionally, what it can do inside of 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:26.240 our heads. We were all created with purpose, 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:30.299 right? God created us with the purpose to be 00:17:30.299 --> 00:17:33.519 His kids, to expand the kingdom, to take the 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.680 family business, if you will, and go make it 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:38.680 bigger. And we were all created with purpose. 00:17:38.539 --> 00:17:42.279 We're all being called unto Jesus. We're daily 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.940 being called unto Him. And we're all given assignments. 00:17:46.099 --> 00:17:48.539 And I feel like so oftentimes that's where we 00:17:48.539 --> 00:17:51.619 get stuck is, what is my assignment? What is 00:17:51.619 --> 00:17:54.259 the thing I'm to be doing? And oftentimes we 00:17:54.259 --> 00:17:56.079 won't be able to find it unless we're taking 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.119 action. And I know in today's day and age, you 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:01.619 know, with doom scrolling and all of the binge 00:18:01.619 --> 00:18:05.960 -worthy Netflix series out there, it's easy to 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:09.200 drift. It's easy to find ourselves. in that place 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:14.539 of being stuck and not feel like we're moving 00:18:14.539 --> 00:18:19.019 forward in a good way, so then we drift backwards. 00:18:19.380 --> 00:18:21.640 If we're not moving forward, we're going backward, 00:18:21.740 --> 00:18:25.859 in my mind. Stagnation is not what we were meant 00:18:25.859 --> 00:18:28.920 to do. God's kingdom is constantly expanding, 00:18:28.940 --> 00:18:31.920 and it's our job and responsibility to do that 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:35.920 here on earth. Yes, I could see where that sounds 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:39.779 like a great book. And drifting is not the goal 00:18:39.779 --> 00:18:45.119 here. No, no. That is true. So when someone reads 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:48.119 your book, Own Your Shift, they're probably expecting 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:51.039 wisdom. But what's something you didn't expect 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:56.369 God to do in your life as you wrote it? Oh. That's 00:18:56.369 --> 00:19:02.150 a fun question. So I did not expect the level 00:19:02.150 --> 00:19:06.210 of confidence that it would give me even until 00:19:06.210 --> 00:19:10.750 the very moment where it was published and I 00:19:10.750 --> 00:19:15.089 was holding a physical copy in my hands. I still 00:19:15.089 --> 00:19:19.069 had major doubts and occasionally even still 00:19:19.069 --> 00:19:22.089 to this day when someone I know is like, Oh my 00:19:22.089 --> 00:19:25.470 gosh, I ordered. Amazon and I'm reading it. There's 00:19:25.470 --> 00:19:31.210 this little tinge of that happens inside of me 00:19:31.210 --> 00:19:33.730 that I'm like, oh boy, here we go. They're going 00:19:33.730 --> 00:19:35.890 to know all the details. Yeah, they're going 00:19:35.890 --> 00:19:38.349 to know all the detail. I held nothing back. 00:19:38.410 --> 00:19:42.750 I didn't hold anything back. And so I am just 00:19:42.750 --> 00:19:47.289 a very vulnerable, raw person. I don't do small 00:19:47.289 --> 00:19:51.170 talk well. It's, you know, the water is great. 00:19:51.250 --> 00:19:53.789 I don't even check the weather myself. Like, 00:19:53.990 --> 00:19:55.809 I'm like, oh, I walk outside and I'm like, oh, 00:19:55.910 --> 00:19:57.750 should have grabbed sweatshirt. My dad's like, 00:19:58.029 --> 00:20:01.369 I just, I don't, it's my personality. And so 00:20:01.369 --> 00:20:03.630 I probably am never going to ask you how the 00:20:03.630 --> 00:20:06.089 weather is. I'm like, I just, I don't do that 00:20:06.089 --> 00:20:09.829 well, but. the confidence that it gave me, even 00:20:09.829 --> 00:20:12.309 up until holding the book in my hand, getting 00:20:12.309 --> 00:20:15.490 ready to announce it. We announced it at a 100X 00:20:15.490 --> 00:20:19.190 conference and there was something in that moment. 00:20:19.490 --> 00:20:22.529 I had to contend for it. I had to fight for it. 00:20:22.630 --> 00:20:27.170 I had to really settle into that position again 00:20:27.170 --> 00:20:30.440 of like, okay, God, I'm seen by you. At the end 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:32.380 of the day, that's the only thing that matters. 00:20:32.539 --> 00:20:35.980 I'm seen by you. I'm seen by you. You carry me. 00:20:36.339 --> 00:20:40.240 You hold me. You have me in this secret place 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:44.299 under your wing. I am protected. I am guarded 00:20:44.299 --> 00:20:48.839 by you. You hold me. And so I had to operate 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:51.480 from that place up until the moment I released 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:55.640 it because there was crazy things happening and 00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:59.170 it felt like I wanted to give up. It felt like 00:20:59.170 --> 00:21:01.769 this is never going to happen. Everything's going 00:21:01.769 --> 00:21:04.609 in an opposite direction. It's not working out 00:21:04.609 --> 00:21:07.789 the way we planned. And so I really had to settle 00:21:07.789 --> 00:21:10.990 into that. And at the end of announcing it and 00:21:10.990 --> 00:21:15.210 releasing it, I walked off stage where I had 00:21:15.210 --> 00:21:18.990 just released my book to, you know, probably 00:21:18.990 --> 00:21:27.289 3000 people and I felt settled. And the power 00:21:27.289 --> 00:21:31.109 of feeling settled, I think, is what gives us 00:21:31.109 --> 00:21:34.730 confidence to keep going, to keep showing up, 00:21:34.890 --> 00:21:37.730 where you build confidence in one area of your 00:21:37.730 --> 00:21:40.950 life. You can pull from that to keep showing 00:21:40.950 --> 00:21:44.630 up in other areas of your life, in areas where 00:21:44.630 --> 00:21:47.849 you can look and say, wow, I did that thing. 00:21:48.170 --> 00:21:51.630 You know, obviously God alongside of me, he orchestrated 00:21:51.630 --> 00:21:54.569 it, all of those things. But at some level, there 00:21:54.569 --> 00:21:58.170 has to be person. responsibility of, I did the 00:21:58.170 --> 00:22:02.730 work, I sat down, I wrote, I edited, I relived, 00:22:02.970 --> 00:22:05.609 I became the person who was able to write the 00:22:05.609 --> 00:22:09.109 book. And I had to give myself credit for that. 00:22:09.710 --> 00:22:12.410 I, for so long in my life, you know, wanted to 00:22:12.410 --> 00:22:14.809 give everyone else credit. I would just show 00:22:14.809 --> 00:22:17.069 up and be the worker bee and give everyone else 00:22:17.069 --> 00:22:19.509 credit. And I felt like the Lord was saying, 00:22:19.670 --> 00:22:24.170 no, like, I am proud of you. Like, You need to 00:22:24.170 --> 00:22:27.109 walk with your head held high in this regard. 00:22:27.289 --> 00:22:30.930 You did this thing. And so I left with this very 00:22:30.930 --> 00:22:35.750 settled, confident, wow, like, if I can do this, 00:22:35.769 --> 00:22:39.369 what else can I do? And I feel like from that, 00:22:39.470 --> 00:22:41.309 you know, obviously I didn't write that in the 00:22:41.309 --> 00:22:44.250 book because it happened after the book was released. 00:22:44.250 --> 00:22:47.049 But that was one of the major things I learned 00:22:47.049 --> 00:22:52.359 from the book is Whenever I feel stuck, I know 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:55.299 how to get myself unstuck because of the confidence 00:22:55.299 --> 00:23:00.019 that came from doing something hard. And sure, 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:03.740 I have lots of tools and tips inside of my book, 00:23:04.059 --> 00:23:06.319 things that I had done leading up to that, and 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:10.640 I still do now. But in that moment, it went so 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:14.279 much deeper into like the cellular tissue of 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:17.579 my body, of knowing that I know that I know. 00:23:17.819 --> 00:23:20.559 that I can do hard things and I can do them with 00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:24.180 joy and I can show up when I feel stuck to move 00:23:24.180 --> 00:23:28.460 myself through back into a place of success and 00:23:28.460 --> 00:23:31.059 walking out in the assignment I feel called to 00:23:31.059 --> 00:23:35.180 in whatever season I'm in. So what was one moment 00:23:35.180 --> 00:23:38.240 when you felt completely stuck and you had to 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:40.619 shift your mindset just to keep moving forward? 00:23:42.779 --> 00:23:46.829 Yeah, so They happen more frequently than I would 00:23:46.829 --> 00:23:52.930 care to admit. I think that my biggest struggle 00:23:52.930 --> 00:23:59.779 is in being a parent. I am constantly in a place 00:23:59.779 --> 00:24:04.160 of feeling like I am not good enough. I am messing 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:08.740 this up. My poor kid, he is going to be needing 00:24:08.740 --> 00:24:11.759 a lot of inner healing and a lot of therapy because 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:17.009 I'm sure I did 1200 things wrong today. And I 00:24:17.009 --> 00:24:21.609 often catch myself in these moments of like, 00:24:21.630 --> 00:24:24.230 I don't know, a pity party, I guess, pity party, 00:24:24.410 --> 00:24:27.529 feeling sorry for myself that I'm not doing good 00:24:27.529 --> 00:24:31.630 enough or that I messed up or whatever. And oftentimes 00:24:31.630 --> 00:24:35.849 it's in that place that I have to remind myself 00:24:35.849 --> 00:24:39.009 I actually am doing a better job than I'm giving 00:24:39.009 --> 00:24:41.869 myself credit for. And so in my parenting, I 00:24:41.869 --> 00:24:46.269 feel stuck a lot and it's hard. parenting is 00:24:46.269 --> 00:24:49.529 hard, trying to do it with excellence and do 00:24:49.529 --> 00:24:54.069 a good job and raise a human being that loves 00:24:54.069 --> 00:24:59.049 Jesus and knows him and isn't full of religion 00:24:59.049 --> 00:25:04.150 and all sorts of crazy orphan mindsets and poverty 00:25:04.150 --> 00:25:09.269 and all that stuff and give him a life that he 00:25:09.269 --> 00:25:12.289 feels, you know, he has a solid foundation. I 00:25:12.289 --> 00:25:16.950 feel oftentimes stuck there and so operating 00:25:16.950 --> 00:25:21.309 from I would say a lower operating system where 00:25:21.309 --> 00:25:24.490 I had parents who absolutely did their best. 00:25:24.549 --> 00:25:27.609 I love my parents so much. I was at my mom's 00:25:27.609 --> 00:25:30.349 high school graduation. So my mom was very young 00:25:30.349 --> 00:25:33.289 when she had me. We basically grew up together. 00:25:33.869 --> 00:25:36.150 So my parents maybe didn't have all of the skills 00:25:36.150 --> 00:25:40.369 and tools to help navigate raising me and my 00:25:40.369 --> 00:25:44.569 three younger sisters emotionally IQ wise because 00:25:44.569 --> 00:25:47.509 they were still growing up. Now obviously we 00:25:47.509 --> 00:25:52.140 have. incredible relationship and have gone through 00:25:52.140 --> 00:25:55.059 so much growth together. And it's been amazing 00:25:55.059 --> 00:25:58.779 to watch, but I oftentimes feel stuck and frustrated. 00:25:58.779 --> 00:26:01.279 It's like, okay, another thing I have to go research. 00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:04.220 Another thing I have to go learn how to do. Another 00:26:04.220 --> 00:26:06.579 thing I need to break generationally for our 00:26:06.579 --> 00:26:09.960 family. And it feels like a lot sometimes to 00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:13.119 constantly be the person breaking generational 00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:18.279 stuff. And my husband and I both like you know, 00:26:18.660 --> 00:26:23.339 really carry that weight. And so I think as a 00:26:23.339 --> 00:26:26.140 team, we're a really great team. We are able 00:26:26.140 --> 00:26:28.640 to help each other when the other person feels 00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:32.319 stuck, operating in our parenting roles, our 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:35.000 co -parenting roles. So I definitely think that 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:39.259 is one of my areas where I struggle the most 00:26:39.259 --> 00:26:42.920 and find myself the most in a place of stuck. 00:26:44.210 --> 00:26:47.490 I often find myself apologizing to my son. It's 00:26:47.490 --> 00:26:49.210 like, sorry, buddy. This is the first time I've 00:26:49.210 --> 00:26:51.849 ever been a parent. It's your first time for 00:26:51.849 --> 00:26:54.670 being a kid. So we'll get through this. Yes. 00:26:55.069 --> 00:26:57.710 The amount of times I've apologized to my son, 00:26:57.849 --> 00:27:01.809 I could write a book just about that. Like, man, 00:27:02.029 --> 00:27:05.529 I've had to get. And I will say that I'm a. I'm 00:27:05.529 --> 00:27:09.829 a like, I've really struggled with a lot of defensiveness 00:27:09.829 --> 00:27:14.990 and pride in my life. And so I really it humbles 00:27:14.990 --> 00:27:17.829 you very quickly when you are apologizing to 00:27:17.829 --> 00:27:20.230 a two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, 00:27:20.250 --> 00:27:22.890 nine, 10, 11, 12 year old kid. Right. Like at 00:27:22.890 --> 00:27:25.569 every age, I'm constantly apologizing. Yeah. 00:27:25.650 --> 00:27:29.289 And so it really. takes you to this place of 00:27:29.289 --> 00:27:33.809 humility and it really breaks down any control 00:27:33.809 --> 00:27:37.150 of like, wait, but I'm the mom. But really, like, 00:27:37.750 --> 00:27:39.930 sure, I am. But is that the kind of mom I want 00:27:39.930 --> 00:27:43.730 to be? And oftentimes the answer is no. So then 00:27:43.730 --> 00:27:46.630 I go and find him and apologize again and again. 00:27:46.990 --> 00:27:50.029 And so, yes, I have learned to become really 00:27:50.029 --> 00:27:53.789 great at apologizing to kids. I know with our 00:27:53.789 --> 00:27:57.109 son, he The more I apologize, the more he apologizes, 00:27:57.210 --> 00:27:59.390 too. So it's like a muscle. You know, you just 00:27:59.390 --> 00:28:02.569 got to exercise that and you'll do better next 00:28:02.569 --> 00:28:06.569 time. Yeah, because I mean, they learn from they 00:28:06.569 --> 00:28:08.809 learn from who we are and how we show up, not 00:28:08.809 --> 00:28:12.250 what we tell them. Right. So if he's seen that 00:28:12.250 --> 00:28:15.990 I can truly be remorseful and apologetic and 00:28:15.990 --> 00:28:18.809 really humble myself, then he learns quickly 00:28:18.809 --> 00:28:22.190 what that looks like as well. And that it just 00:28:22.190 --> 00:28:25.319 actually happened. Last night, it was so beautiful. 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.819 He has not been feeling well. He has a little 00:28:28.819 --> 00:28:31.720 stomach thing happening and it was the first 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.839 time he was able to eat in like days and he was 00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.819 sitting on the couch and we normally don't eat 00:28:38.819 --> 00:28:41.400 on the couch, but we were, you know, he was sick. 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.380 We're doing it. So we're sitting on the couch 00:28:44.380 --> 00:28:47.299 eating. And of course, he spilled something. 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:52.759 And so instantly, like I wanted to react. I didn't. 00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:55.980 I was very proud of myself in that moment. My 00:28:55.980 --> 00:28:58.579 husband, he knows how important our couch is 00:28:58.579 --> 00:29:02.019 to me. And so he reacted for me, which was not 00:29:02.019 --> 00:29:06.160 probably the best either. And so I was like, 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.079 no, it's OK. It's OK. And he was like, really? 00:29:09.140 --> 00:29:10.619 And I was like, yes, it's all good. We're going 00:29:10.619 --> 00:29:13.650 to get it cleaned up. started cleaning it my 00:29:13.650 --> 00:29:16.109 husband walked out to go do something else and 00:29:16.109 --> 00:29:19.029 then Micah on his own I was like hey go check 00:29:19.029 --> 00:29:21.309 on dad see if he's you know ready to come back 00:29:21.309 --> 00:29:25.329 and to finish the movie and he went and he apologized 00:29:25.329 --> 00:29:28.670 to him on his own and Michael came out and he 00:29:28.670 --> 00:29:30.750 was that's my husband he was like did you tell 00:29:30.750 --> 00:29:33.910 him to apologize to me and I was like no I didn't 00:29:33.910 --> 00:29:38.759 and so they do they they they're brilliant, amazing 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.299 as they're growing, but he totally did it on 00:29:42.299 --> 00:29:45.339 his own because he sees the importance and I'm 00:29:45.339 --> 00:29:49.339 sure feels in his own heart the importance of 00:29:49.339 --> 00:29:52.410 someone apologizing to you when... you know, 00:29:52.410 --> 00:29:55.589 they've overreacted or whatever. So how we show 00:29:55.589 --> 00:29:59.470 up and what we do on a daily basis, it is seen. 00:29:59.829 --> 00:30:02.990 It's picked up. It's felt. And hopefully, I think 00:30:02.990 --> 00:30:06.309 the grace is there for the good things to be 00:30:06.309 --> 00:30:08.589 picked up more than the bad things when we do 00:30:08.589 --> 00:30:10.690 make mistakes. And they're learning to right 00:30:10.690 --> 00:30:12.609 their own wrongs in the process because we're 00:30:12.609 --> 00:30:15.710 showing them how. So it's a constant journey, 00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:20.150 this parenting thing. You know, I don't share 00:30:20.150 --> 00:30:22.650 just anything on this podcast, but when I came 00:30:22.650 --> 00:30:25.210 across LiveGood, I knew I had to tell you about 00:30:25.210 --> 00:30:28.309 it. 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So, God's goodness 00:31:03.779 --> 00:31:06.619 often shows up in the most unexpected places. 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:09.460 Can you take us back to a time when things looked 00:31:09.460 --> 00:31:12.579 impossible, but God showed up in a way that surprised 00:31:12.579 --> 00:31:24.309 you? Um, yes. I, in a more recent time, you know, 00:31:24.369 --> 00:31:27.890 it seems to be the simple thing since we're kind 00:31:27.890 --> 00:31:30.569 of on this, you know, parenting kick, little 00:31:30.569 --> 00:31:32.650 conversation right now. I'll stick with that 00:31:32.650 --> 00:31:35.390 for a second. It seems to be in the most simple 00:31:35.390 --> 00:31:40.670 of times. And sometimes the moments that don't 00:31:40.670 --> 00:31:43.690 seem like they really matter in the grand scheme 00:31:43.690 --> 00:31:48.490 of eternity that impact me the most. And I say 00:31:48.490 --> 00:31:51.710 that because I really want to emphasize that 00:31:51.710 --> 00:31:54.309 God cares about what we care about, and He's 00:31:54.309 --> 00:31:57.869 in everything. The things that we're passionate 00:31:57.869 --> 00:31:59.809 about, we're passionate about them for a reason. 00:31:59.910 --> 00:32:03.230 He put those passions inside of us, and so He 00:32:03.230 --> 00:32:08.160 cares about them. So just a little segue into 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.819 this story. About a month ago, we were watching 00:32:12.819 --> 00:32:16.059 my son and his team play a baseball game. My 00:32:16.059 --> 00:32:19.839 son is very into baseball. It is like his life 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.279 right now, and we are here for it. It is an awesome, 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:28.400 fun season. And we were playing a very hard team, 00:32:28.660 --> 00:32:35.819 very great team, and... We were losing. And I 00:32:35.819 --> 00:32:38.680 was like, you know, I really think that we can 00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:42.119 beat this team. We started out winning. That's 00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.140 an important part of the story. We started out 00:32:44.140 --> 00:32:47.619 winning and then they came back and we were losing 00:32:47.619 --> 00:32:50.319 by like one or two points. And then it kind of 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.579 got to like three or four points. And I was like, 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:56.269 shoot, I really think we can win this game. And 00:32:56.269 --> 00:32:58.890 it was single elimination at this point in time. 00:32:58.890 --> 00:33:02.549 So if we lost we would be done and head home 00:33:02.549 --> 00:33:06.349 and I just I Sat there for a second and I was 00:33:06.349 --> 00:33:09.150 like Jesus I know you care about this game because 00:33:09.150 --> 00:33:12.089 Micah cares about this game I care about this 00:33:12.089 --> 00:33:14.589 game We care about this game and I just kind 00:33:14.589 --> 00:33:16.809 of like, you know test the wires like how much 00:33:16.809 --> 00:33:22.130 do you care about this game Jesus? And I just 00:33:22.130 --> 00:33:25.809 saw him standing over the baseball field damn 00:33:25.809 --> 00:33:30.150 thing and just like full joy. And I was like, 00:33:30.309 --> 00:33:32.890 okay, you care about this baseball game a lot. 00:33:33.809 --> 00:33:37.369 And so I'm just like having this moment with 00:33:37.369 --> 00:33:40.210 Jesus on the sidelines of the baseball field. 00:33:40.509 --> 00:33:42.849 And I was like, okay, I just want to give you 00:33:42.849 --> 00:33:45.730 this baseball game. You care about it. What seemingly 00:33:45.730 --> 00:33:48.950 is more than I care about it. Going back to, 00:33:49.009 --> 00:33:51.049 you know, my earlier part of the story where 00:33:51.049 --> 00:33:55.069 learning to just give him things that I choose 00:33:55.069 --> 00:33:57.710 to carry that he never asked me to carry. Right. 00:33:57.829 --> 00:34:01.089 I was carrying the stress and the weight of my 00:34:01.089 --> 00:34:04.150 son, his entire team. all the parents and the 00:34:04.150 --> 00:34:06.569 coaches and what it would be to win this game. 00:34:06.730 --> 00:34:10.570 And I oftentimes pick up and start to carry everybody 00:34:10.570 --> 00:34:13.730 else's emotions. And so I was really feeling 00:34:13.730 --> 00:34:16.469 that I was feeling really anxious. And so I was 00:34:16.469 --> 00:34:19.420 like, Nope, I'm going to give it to you. And 00:34:19.420 --> 00:34:22.139 I see how much you care about this game too. 00:34:22.500 --> 00:34:26.679 And so I instantly felt peace, instantly felt 00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:31.400 peace. And it felt impossible. I know that it 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:35.179 might be like, oh, well, you're not facing this 00:34:35.179 --> 00:34:37.880 life or death situation, and you're not facing 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.739 losing your business, and you're not facing your 00:34:40.739 --> 00:34:43.679 husband changing careers, and you're not facing 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.739 overcoming an eating disorder, and you're not 00:34:46.739 --> 00:34:49.059 facing whatever, right? Like a lot of people 00:34:49.059 --> 00:34:52.380 think those are the impossible situations. But 00:34:52.380 --> 00:34:56.260 until we get really good at the small. impossible 00:34:56.260 --> 00:34:59.920 situations, it's harder to conquer and overcome 00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:03.820 the bigger impossible situations. And so I've 00:35:03.820 --> 00:35:08.460 learned to really take God to those small places 00:35:08.460 --> 00:35:11.340 where it feels impossible in the moment, like 00:35:11.340 --> 00:35:13.639 winning a baseball game that we are now down 00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:16.800 by five and like the fifth inning and we only 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.420 play six innings. But it's so that felt impossible. 00:35:20.619 --> 00:35:24.619 Right. But I i've learned that that taking it 00:35:24.619 --> 00:35:28.880 into these small moments Is actually where I 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.820 meet god in the most incredible ways And he meets 00:35:32.820 --> 00:35:35.579 me really is what it is. He's already there i'm 00:35:35.579 --> 00:35:38.019 just showing up but we're meeting each other 00:35:38.019 --> 00:35:42.139 in this place of like Okay, I care you care awesome. 00:35:42.139 --> 00:35:44.500 There's passion for this thing great i'm gonna 00:35:44.500 --> 00:35:46.559 give it to you because it's really heavy for 00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.980 me to carry and he's like good I didn't want 00:35:48.980 --> 00:35:52.059 you to carry it anyways, and so they I get to 00:35:52.059 --> 00:35:55.960 take on his piece and Our team comes back they 00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.400 end up winning it was ridiculous the parents 00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:02.920 the kids everyone's losing their mind and The 00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:06.059 other team didn't even seem like they were phased 00:36:06.380 --> 00:36:09.480 Like normally, you know, 12 year old boys, somebody 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.699 is crying. There's emotions. Everyone's heavily 00:36:12.699 --> 00:36:15.260 invested, but they didn't even seem fazed. And 00:36:15.260 --> 00:36:17.579 I just felt like that was such the grace of the 00:36:17.579 --> 00:36:20.039 ward. Like there's such a winning team. They're 00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.840 so used to winning that they were like, ah, just 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.659 a blip in the system, whatever. Like they moved 00:36:25.659 --> 00:36:29.539 on with their day. And for us, it was everything 00:36:29.539 --> 00:36:32.539 our boys needed. Like, it was so incredible for 00:36:32.539 --> 00:36:36.039 them to be the D1 team as the D3 team. And so, 00:36:36.340 --> 00:36:38.480 you know, in those moments where it does seem 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:41.539 impossible in the small things that we encounter 00:36:41.539 --> 00:36:45.739 in life, making sure that we're staying in the 00:36:45.739 --> 00:36:49.599 presence of our father, making sure that we're 00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:54.500 staying in the presence of what he has in store 00:36:54.500 --> 00:36:58.260 for us gives us the peace to show up and take 00:36:58.260 --> 00:37:00.820 that next step in the impossible moments, right? 00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:04.460 And so I could talk about all of the big impossible 00:37:04.460 --> 00:37:08.159 things, but it seemed that the small impossible, 00:37:08.699 --> 00:37:13.119 the small little moments are where we build confidence 00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.099 to show up to those big impossible moments as 00:37:16.099 --> 00:37:19.840 well. I love that story so much that I played 00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.260 it back for my son because you shared more about 00:37:23.260 --> 00:37:26.719 that story in Kingdom Seekers. I did, yeah. And 00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:29.519 with the creativity. And so my son, he couldn't 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.000 beat this one level in VR. And I was like, well, 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:34.039 let me share this one story, because then maybe 00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:37.159 you can ask God for that more creative ability 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:41.619 and up level that. He did not beat the level, 00:37:41.619 --> 00:37:43.980 but I thought it was important enough to share 00:37:43.980 --> 00:37:46.400 with him. So that was a good, yeah, that's awesome. 00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.159 And I feel like that's why we tell stories, right? 00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.320 That's why we tell the stories of how we encounter 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:56.219 God and, and how we show up with him. And I bet 00:37:56.219 --> 00:37:59.630 you that if he keeps trying, you know, like if 00:37:59.630 --> 00:38:02.070 he keeps showing up in that way, like he's going 00:38:02.070 --> 00:38:05.409 to get it. He will get it because what God does 00:38:05.409 --> 00:38:07.650 for one, he's no respecter of person. So he's 00:38:07.650 --> 00:38:10.030 willing to do for another. If he was able to 00:38:10.030 --> 00:38:12.570 help give our team the creativity that they needed 00:38:12.570 --> 00:38:16.110 to operate and show up and beat a harder team 00:38:16.110 --> 00:38:19.010 than them, then he's willing to do it in all 00:38:19.010 --> 00:38:22.989 areas of our life. Playing VR, playing a different 00:38:22.989 --> 00:38:26.619 sport, you know, creating music. painting, whatever 00:38:26.619 --> 00:38:29.739 it is that we do for hobbies or extracurriculars. 00:38:29.980 --> 00:38:32.480 He wants to meet us there because he cares about 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.659 us. 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If you could go back and speak to the earlier 00:39:07.900 --> 00:39:10.400 Holly, maybe the one just before writing your 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:20.300 book, what would you say to her? You don't have 00:39:20.300 --> 00:39:23.920 to prove yourself. You don't have to prove yourself 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:28.679 to anyone and you don't need their permission. 00:39:29.019 --> 00:39:33.599 I think that is what I would say to myself. I 00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:37.599 feel like for most of my adult life, I constantly 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:41.699 lived in this places. feeling like I needed to 00:39:41.699 --> 00:39:46.980 prove myself that I If I worked harder here and 00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:50.159 you know, I did this Favor for this person and 00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.699 I showed up in this way for that person that 00:39:52.699 --> 00:39:55.480 I would be accepted by them that I would you 00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:58.400 know, they would think now I was important enough 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:02.679 to hang out with or you know, whatever and I 00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:06.500 just I think the older that I get the more I 00:40:06.500 --> 00:40:10.409 realize people pleasing is not all that it's 00:40:10.409 --> 00:40:15.469 cracked up to be. Like it's just not. And I think 00:40:15.469 --> 00:40:18.909 oftentimes it holds us back more than anything 00:40:18.909 --> 00:40:22.809 because we aren't trusting our own intuition 00:40:22.809 --> 00:40:26.869 of how we are called to move forward. The Lord 00:40:26.869 --> 00:40:30.250 does interesting things in each one of our lives 00:40:30.250 --> 00:40:35.380 and calls us individually to different assignments 00:40:35.380 --> 00:40:39.619 and different things and places. And he's oftentimes, 00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:44.659 in my opinion, oftentimes waiting for us to realize 00:40:44.659 --> 00:40:48.219 that we don't need anyone else's permission because 00:40:48.219 --> 00:40:51.320 he already granted it. He already granted it. 00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.500 And so because we want to question and because 00:40:54.500 --> 00:40:57.800 we want to, you know, double check and make sure 00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.619 and quadruple check because we don't feel confident 00:41:00.619 --> 00:41:04.119 in our own selves and our own ability we fall 00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:06.659 into people pleasing and we fall into this place 00:41:06.659 --> 00:41:10.639 of not actually moving through our lives into 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.260 success into the things he has and that's often 00:41:14.260 --> 00:41:16.820 times where we can get stuck is because we are 00:41:16.820 --> 00:41:19.860 waiting for people's opinions and the reality 00:41:19.860 --> 00:41:23.510 is Not many people are probably going to approve 00:41:23.510 --> 00:41:26.750 or give you permission to be yourself because 00:41:26.750 --> 00:41:29.110 they don't know what that's like. They don't 00:41:29.110 --> 00:41:32.909 know the fullness that you have had to live and 00:41:32.909 --> 00:41:36.090 overcome. And they're not you. They don't know 00:41:36.090 --> 00:41:38.789 what you're capable of. And oftentimes we don't 00:41:38.789 --> 00:41:41.530 even know what we're capable of. But let's, you 00:41:41.530 --> 00:41:44.050 know, like, let's keep finding out. Like, let's 00:41:44.050 --> 00:41:47.289 keep going after it. And the more people we need 00:41:47.289 --> 00:41:50.050 approval from, the harder it will be to discover 00:41:50.050 --> 00:41:54.619 that. Mm -hmm. I know my 40s, like, as you get 00:41:54.619 --> 00:41:58.219 older, you give a lot less cares about what everyone 00:41:58.219 --> 00:42:03.019 else thinks. And the book by Napoleon Hill, Think 00:42:03.019 --> 00:42:06.800 and Grow Rich, he talks about how he interviewed 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:10.039 thousands of successful people. And I think it 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.710 was all of them were mostly successful 40s. and 00:42:13.710 --> 00:42:16.510 beyond. So it's like life is just getting started. 00:42:16.550 --> 00:42:18.750 Like you're getting a grip on what's important, 00:42:19.170 --> 00:42:21.150 what's not important, what to hold on to, what 00:42:21.150 --> 00:42:23.969 to let go of. And so that's why I like the 40s. 00:42:23.969 --> 00:42:26.130 That's what I would tell my earlier self first. 00:42:26.369 --> 00:42:29.170 I would tell my earlier self that exact, you 00:42:29.170 --> 00:42:33.869 know, like, don't, I can't imagine, you know, 00:42:34.010 --> 00:42:36.730 If I had this level of confidence and understanding 00:42:36.730 --> 00:42:40.389 in my 20s, in my 30s, but getting into my 40s, 00:42:40.389 --> 00:42:43.989 definitely sealing that level of confidence, 00:42:44.190 --> 00:42:47.829 that level of knowing, knowingness of who I am. 00:42:48.570 --> 00:42:52.389 I think it would have come a lot faster had I 00:42:52.389 --> 00:42:55.750 not been so concerned about what people thought. 00:42:56.150 --> 00:42:59.590 You're to this, you're to that. You're not. And 00:42:59.590 --> 00:43:02.690 then at the same time, the feeling of not enoughness. 00:43:03.309 --> 00:43:06.389 And there's that and thing, it also works in 00:43:06.389 --> 00:43:09.429 other places as well, right? You're feeling too 00:43:09.429 --> 00:43:12.369 much and not enough at the same time. At least 00:43:12.369 --> 00:43:15.510 that's how I felt a lot of my life. And that 00:43:15.510 --> 00:43:18.969 was a catastrophe. I was trying to look for other 00:43:18.969 --> 00:43:23.010 people for validation while also not believing 00:43:23.010 --> 00:43:26.650 in myself. And so I think that is the biggest 00:43:26.650 --> 00:43:29.090 thing that if I could go back and just infuse 00:43:29.090 --> 00:43:33.420 that into my younger self, I absolutely. That's 00:43:33.420 --> 00:43:35.119 why it's like to tell people that self -esteem 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.460 is stupid You know you you have a thought process 00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:41.400 about who you are based off of how you were raised 00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:43.860 what your first friends first thought of you 00:43:43.860 --> 00:43:46.280 and how you developed whether you rejected or 00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:49.280 accepted that And it has nothing to do with really 00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.159 how you feel about yourself But the perception 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.139 of other people of you that you formed your identity 00:43:54.139 --> 00:43:56.920 and so I like to call God esteem Alright, he's 00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.039 the one who made me he's the one that knows what 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:03.699 I'm fully capable of even before I know So what 00:44:03.699 --> 00:44:05.760 chance does anybody else have to know who I really 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:10.000 am if God is the only author of my life? Yes, 00:44:10.739 --> 00:44:14.820 so that is so powerful and Like you hit on something 00:44:14.820 --> 00:44:19.179 that is was such a big aha moment to me My own 00:44:19.179 --> 00:44:22.480 opinion of what other people think of me Really 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.380 that's what it comes down to because if I don't 00:44:25.380 --> 00:44:27.920 have an opinion about what they think about me 00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.400 Because who's to say I really even know what 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.179 they think about me I can make assumptions and 00:44:33.179 --> 00:44:36.159 I can have opinion, but I don't actually know 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.340 what they think about me I don't actually know 00:44:38.340 --> 00:44:40.820 how they feel about me They're probably not even 00:44:40.820 --> 00:44:43.519 paying attention as much as you think they are 00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.840 not even And here's the real crutch of it is 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:48.980 if you think they're thinking mean things about 00:44:48.980 --> 00:44:51.900 you. That's really you Projecting mean things 00:44:51.900 --> 00:44:55.219 about yourself through their lens That's you 00:44:55.219 --> 00:44:57.199 just being hard on yourself because you're that's 00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.219 your idea that that you're in some way because 00:44:59.219 --> 00:45:03.039 they must think that Yes, I don't so I don't 00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:05.199 know if you're familiar. I think it's Louise. 00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:10.099 Hey, she has this concept or idea And it's exactly 00:45:10.099 --> 00:45:12.800 what you're hitting on and it's like hey, you 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:16.099 know my parents judge me Well, do you really 00:45:16.099 --> 00:45:19.460 know your parents judge you? Well, I think they 00:45:19.460 --> 00:45:22.099 do. Well, how do you really know your parents 00:45:22.099 --> 00:45:24.960 judge you? Well, actually, I don't know that 00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.760 they really judge me. Well, do you judge yourself? 00:45:28.260 --> 00:45:31.599 Yes, I actually judge myself, right? I'm simplifying 00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:34.659 the whole process, but asking yourself these 00:45:34.659 --> 00:45:37.139 questions of like, do you really know that's 00:45:37.139 --> 00:45:40.800 true? How can you really know that's true? And 00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:42.860 at the end of the day, we can't really know that 00:45:42.860 --> 00:45:47.440 it's true. And so, so often we create in our 00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:51.300 imaginations the idea that people feel certain 00:45:51.300 --> 00:45:55.460 ways about us so that we can justify why we want 00:45:55.460 --> 00:45:59.320 to stay stuck. We want to justify staying stuck 00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:02.880 because it keeps us quote unquote safe. It keeps 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:06.119 us in our comfort zone. But that's actually very 00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:10.780 damaging to our true creation purpose of expanding 00:46:10.780 --> 00:46:13.960 the kingdom. It requires risk. It requires us 00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:17.400 to, you know, expand outside of our comfort zone. 00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:21.539 And that requires us to drop a lot of what we 00:46:21.539 --> 00:46:24.500 think. Not everything we believe and not everything 00:46:24.500 --> 00:46:27.920 we think is true. sometimes we get stuck there. 00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:33.199 You mentioned earlier how you like to be vulnerable 00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.380 and you like to share your vulnerabilities and 00:46:36.380 --> 00:46:39.099 I've got to let you know that that is the truest 00:46:39.099 --> 00:46:42.099 form of intimacy with God that you can get because 00:46:42.099 --> 00:46:45.000 he really respects our vulnerability and when 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.179 you can't be vulnerable you can't be intimate 00:46:47.179 --> 00:46:49.800 with God. You have to have a vulnerability. You 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.469 have to be willing to let it lay bare. Because 00:46:52.469 --> 00:46:54.210 that's where you give him something to work with, 00:46:54.230 --> 00:46:56.530 where you're basically saying, I let this out. 00:46:56.550 --> 00:47:01.010 I trust you with this. Yeah. That's so true. 00:47:01.389 --> 00:47:04.090 I heard someone describe intimacy one time was 00:47:04.090 --> 00:47:10.920 into me. You see into me. So intimacy, like I 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.260 have to let you see into me. I have to let you 00:47:14.260 --> 00:47:18.360 see into who I am, my heart posture, my mindset, 00:47:18.539 --> 00:47:21.980 my beliefs, because when you can see into me, 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.500 and I think that is the safest with God, right? 00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:29.320 That we see everything and he's not going to 00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:33.940 love us one iota less. One time, like there's 00:47:33.940 --> 00:47:38.769 no morsel that he will love us less. If anything, 00:47:39.010 --> 00:47:41.969 he loves us more. When my son comes to me and 00:47:41.969 --> 00:47:45.289 he tells me he did something wrong before I find 00:47:45.289 --> 00:47:50.010 out, I'm like, oh, no punishment. I mean, I know 00:47:50.010 --> 00:47:52.590 there are consequences, right? I know there are 00:47:52.590 --> 00:47:54.429 consequences to our decisions, but it's like, 00:47:54.429 --> 00:47:57.469 oh, no punishment, because I just love you so 00:47:57.469 --> 00:47:59.949 much that you trusted me with this, that you 00:47:59.949 --> 00:48:02.610 trusted me to come to me and tell me this thing. 00:48:02.909 --> 00:48:06.409 Oh, my gosh, this is so amazing. Like our relationship 00:48:06.409 --> 00:48:10.010 instantly feels stronger and more solidified 00:48:10.010 --> 00:48:13.050 all because his willingness to come to me and 00:48:13.050 --> 00:48:16.110 say, hey, mom, here's something I did. I'm allowing 00:48:16.110 --> 00:48:19.179 you to pull back the curtains and see into. And 00:48:19.179 --> 00:48:23.059 that is where intimacy actually builds trust 00:48:23.059 --> 00:48:27.360 and everything we do really is reliant on trust. 00:48:27.579 --> 00:48:30.539 And so the more we let God in, even though He 00:48:30.539 --> 00:48:33.980 can see without us letting Him in, it builds 00:48:33.980 --> 00:48:37.559 trust. And when we trust and have that foundation, 00:48:37.659 --> 00:48:40.400 we can go and build so much further, so much 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.590 faster. Couldn't agree anymore with that statement. 00:48:44.590 --> 00:48:47.469 You know, we we raise our child the same way 00:48:47.469 --> 00:48:50.210 He's very honest and open about a lot of things. 00:48:50.210 --> 00:48:53.230 He does because he knows he doesn't have to fear. 00:48:53.349 --> 00:48:59.449 Mm -hmm Powerful. Yeah for sure. I know a lot 00:48:59.449 --> 00:49:03.050 of people don't Confess to God because they're 00:49:03.050 --> 00:49:05.369 afraid of what God's gonna say even though he 00:49:05.369 --> 00:49:08.630 already knows They like earlier as you said before 00:49:08.630 --> 00:49:11.380 they condemn themselves already when that is 00:49:11.380 --> 00:49:15.880 not the heart of Christ. Exactly. It's not. I 00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:20.780 love that. So good. So thank you so much for 00:49:20.780 --> 00:49:23.239 sharing your time with us today and your story 00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:26.699 and a little bit about your book. And I got to 00:49:26.699 --> 00:49:28.480 be honest, first time I heard the title, I I 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.159 misheard it when someone said it and I was like, 00:49:30.260 --> 00:49:34.739 that can't be right. So I'm not going to lie, 00:49:34.739 --> 00:49:39.500 I have a little bit of a sassy side to me and 00:49:39.500 --> 00:49:46.260 I kind of love that about my title. Because ultimately, 00:49:46.619 --> 00:49:49.860 at the end of the day, if you're stuck, you're 00:49:49.860 --> 00:49:53.739 kind of waiting in your own. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. 00:49:54.739 --> 00:49:56.980 And basically, if you read it the way I'm... 00:49:56.969 --> 00:49:59.309 You know first heard it. It's really about taking 00:49:59.309 --> 00:50:03.750 accountability Yes, it is a hundred that is exactly 00:50:03.750 --> 00:50:07.150 what it is about taking accountability You at 00:50:07.150 --> 00:50:09.949 the end of the day are the only person who can 00:50:09.949 --> 00:50:15.150 really? change where you are at if you want something 00:50:15.150 --> 00:50:19.429 to change you have the power to do that because 00:50:19.429 --> 00:50:22.250 god in you has given you the power to do that 00:50:22.250 --> 00:50:26.579 and I think you know, just a it's, I don't know, 00:50:26.619 --> 00:50:28.760 to me, a funny little play on words, right? Like 00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.219 I grew up in a construction field. I've heard 00:50:32.219 --> 00:50:36.260 and probably said every word under the sun. And 00:50:36.260 --> 00:50:39.719 so for me, it was just funny because you are 00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:42.039 absolutely correct. When you take ownership, 00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.500 it's like, oh, that's a bag of BS. Well, that's 00:50:45.500 --> 00:50:47.900 because the person's not taking ownership, right? 00:50:47.900 --> 00:50:51.699 And so when you can take ownership of your life 00:50:51.699 --> 00:50:54.500 and you can take ownership of who you are, who 00:50:54.500 --> 00:50:56.610 God's called you to be and the assignment he 00:50:56.610 --> 00:51:00.010 has for you in this current season, I can promise 00:51:00.010 --> 00:51:03.590 and guarantee that you will not be stuck anymore. 00:51:03.909 --> 00:51:07.389 Ownership is one of the biggest ways to transition 00:51:07.389 --> 00:51:11.889 you out of that. Good stuff. Also in the beginning, 00:51:12.050 --> 00:51:14.510 my wife said that she didn't know you from Adam. 00:51:15.130 --> 00:51:17.389 No, I know her. She doesn't know me. Right, the 00:51:17.389 --> 00:51:19.349 other way around. You didn't know her from Adam. 00:51:19.389 --> 00:51:21.170 And I thought, how funny that is. You know, that's 00:51:21.170 --> 00:51:23.130 a man's term. She should have said, you don't 00:51:23.130 --> 00:51:32.090 know me from Eve. I'm so glad we got to know 00:51:32.090 --> 00:51:35.750 each other better. I know. It's awesome. Well, 00:51:35.769 --> 00:51:38.210 thank you guys for having me on. This was fun. 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:41.920 Thank you for taking the time to be here. Yeah, 00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:46.039 of course Barry Suggested it. I love that man 00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:49.619 so much. I'm so thankful for him. And so just 00:51:49.619 --> 00:51:53.960 trusted his Green light. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure 00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:56.480 he'll enjoy this episode as well and Christine. 00:51:56.579 --> 00:52:01.280 She was on too I'm married all the all the people 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.179 that are on a lot Yeah, I love it. It's just 00:52:05.179 --> 00:52:08.019 really neat because Mary and I were going to 00:52:08.019 --> 00:52:10.760 brunch tomorrow after church and She's local 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:13.840 and then I met another girl in my crafting class 00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:15.800 at church. She's a kingdom seeker I'm like no 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:17.699 way and then we've gotten to know each other 00:52:17.699 --> 00:52:19.760 better So she's gonna go to lunch with us too. 00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:22.840 And it's just it's really great to you know make 00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:25.460 all these connections and see what more connections 00:52:25.460 --> 00:52:29.039 we have. Fantastic. I love it. So I actually 00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:32.159 got to write the foreword for Mary's most recent 00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:36.079 book, which was so fun. I got to read it. She's 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:40.079 I love her writing style. She is so fantastic 00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:42.880 that I love that you guys are all close together. 00:52:42.900 --> 00:52:46.860 That's amazing. It's like a big adventure with 00:52:46.860 --> 00:52:53.590 God. It sounds like someone's little jelly. But 00:52:53.590 --> 00:52:55.969 you just keep taking that next step and then 00:52:55.969 --> 00:52:57.750 God will lead you to the next step and the next 00:52:57.750 --> 00:52:59.969 step. You don't have to know it all or have it 00:52:59.969 --> 00:53:04.389 all figured out. Just go with it. Yeah. And oftentimes 00:53:04.389 --> 00:53:06.590 when we try to figure it all out, that's when 00:53:06.590 --> 00:53:10.090 it gets even more cloudy and messed up because 00:53:10.090 --> 00:53:14.110 we're trying to insert our logic into the solution. 00:53:14.469 --> 00:53:19.329 And God oftentimes has it so much better than 00:53:19.329 --> 00:53:24.730 we could have planned out. Mm -hmm. Always. Always. 00:53:25.590 --> 00:53:26.630 You just have to be patient. Well, thank you 00:53:26.630 --> 00:53:29.269 guys so much. We do. We really do. And that's 00:53:29.269 --> 00:53:32.210 a hard one. Thank you guys so much for having 00:53:32.210 --> 00:53:34.489 me on. It was such a pleasure to hang out with 00:53:34.489 --> 00:53:37.349 you this morning. Same here. 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