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All of that is not that coincidence it is God

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ordained and when you start seeing your conversations

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as ordained by the Lord with Everyone you come

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in contact with you will look at those conversations

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differently You will be more intentional and

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more present and who you're talking to it Hey

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there, welcome to the gods goodness podcast We

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are your host Josh and Shelly Hankins and we're

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here to share real stories of God's power stories

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of hope, healing, and miracles that will strengthen

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your faith. No matter what you're walking through,

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we want to remind you that God is good and he's

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still moving today. Let's dive in. Today's episode

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is a divine continuation of a powerful story.

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When Michael Price first joined us back in March,

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he opened up about his MS diagnosis with boldness

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and faith. After we wrapped up that conversation,

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I felt prompted to share something I believed

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could help, LifeWave's X39 patches. Since then,

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Michael has experienced real, tangible breakthroughs,

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sleeping through the night again, walking long

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distances without a cane, and stepping into God

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-orchestrated opportunities that no man could

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create. But today, we're not just welcoming Michael

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back, we're honored to be joined by his incredible

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wife, Elise. Together, they're sharing how God

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has been moving in their lives, guiding their

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steps, and showing up in miraculous ways. This

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is a testimony of healing, obedience, and divine

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alignment, and we're so excited to share it with

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you. Let's welcome back Michael Price, and for

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the first time, Elise Price. Hey, glad to be

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back. Good morning. So before we get started,

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Elise, will you? Start us off with an opening

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prayer and then we'll get into it. Yes. Thank

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you. Father, Lord, we just thank you, Father,

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for all the things that you do for us. We praise

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you and we worship you because you're the God

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of our hearts who loves us and seeks us out.

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Lord, we just give this time to you now. We thank

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you for what you're going to do. Be with us and

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we just pray, Father, that we would bring you

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honor and glory and praise. It's in your precious,

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holy name that we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you,

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Elise. Mm -hmm. Sure. So life has taken some

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turns, twists and turns for the good. And so

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where would you like to start that off, Michael?

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So I think this is where we'll start. I'm gonna

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tell a little story because, you know, the last

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time, you know, we talked a lot about adversities.

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We talked a little bit about the victories. You

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know, we talked about miracles, of course. But

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I think the demeanor of this show is gonna be

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a little different. I'll start it out this way.

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So the last time after you sent over the recording,

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I had Elise listen to it, and there was some

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tears shed in that recording. You know, I was

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very emotional, you know, and talking about some

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of the things that are going on in my past. And

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I'm sitting there one night at the recording,

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and I looked over, and Lisa's listening to it,

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and she's laughing. And I said, wow, I'm not

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sure what I said to make her laugh, because I'm

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pretty sure I cried during that recording. It's

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very disconcerting. So I stopped her and I said,

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I just want to know what you were listening to.

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And she said, well, you had just mentioned that

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you had your second heart attack and you had

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been experiencing the pain all day long. And

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you decided not to call EMS until one o 'clock

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in the morning. And Josh said, we want to thank

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you for that because we like being up all day

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long and then getting called when we go to bed.

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It never fails. And it's always like three days

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later. Yeah. This show's going to be a little

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different. I do want to talk about the victories.

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You mentioned in the opening there that, you

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know, I opened up a lot about my MS and some

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of the struggles I was having for the last couple

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years, really the last 12 years, but really the

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last couple years because I've been diagnosed.

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And pain, pain was one of those. would have a

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lot of pain at the end of every night and just

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would not be able to get comfortable. I was walking

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each day because when you have MS, unfortunately,

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you just say moving, but it was difficult. Anything

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over, you know, I just said it a quarter mile,

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I was using a cane. I was using a walking stick.

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And after we completed recording the last show

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I was on, so Josh and Shelley and I had a conversation

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and we brought Elise into it. And I was introduced

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to the X -39 patch from Lifeway. So I went out

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and ordered it, and that very day, and it came

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in a couple days later, and I will tell you,

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I started wearing the patch, and I'm probably

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one of the biggest skeptics out there, but on

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the fourth day, we were sitting like we always

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do in our upstairs living room, and I looked

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over the lease and I said, you know what's strange?

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I said, I don't have any pain right now. You

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know, I'd forgotten for a moment that I was wearing

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the patch. And she looked at me and, you know,

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she didn't give me that look, but she gave me

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a happy look, a joyful look. And I said, you

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know, it's really, there's no pain. And I remember

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I was wearing the patch. So we went on for a

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couple more days, and here we are two months

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later, two and a half months later, however long

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it's been since we recorded that last show, there's

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no pain. I was able to stop using the cane, so

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the balance issues are gone. My memory, my recall

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is much better than it was. I have tons of energy.

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I sleep at night. I was only sleeping two to

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three hours a night for the longest time. Now

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I sleep. I had to have an alarm wake me up and

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I sleep throughout the night. So I mean, it's

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the turnaround has been just, I mean, it's all

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God, you know, in the tool he's used is the patch,

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the S39 from LifeWave, you know, that was created

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by a Christian focused organization. That I was

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introduced through a podcast I was doing from

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for Shelly and Josh. None of this is coincidence

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All god links. No, no, absolutely not. I actually

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distinctly remember at the end of that podcast

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Whether it was part of the podcast or or if it

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was us offline praying for you and saying that

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I knew that you would be Relieved of this that

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this would be gone I remember that Yep, and here

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we are talking about that release talking about

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a victory. Yeah, first of these that i've been

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doing So what kinds of changes have come about

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from being more clear thinking and having better

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sleep? I'm sure there's been other improvements

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in your life because of your body doing what

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it's supposed to do. Oh, my goodness. I would

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at least speak to some of this, but I will tell

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you that I'm a different person. I can tell you

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I used to just I wasn't thriving. I was just

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trying to survive and trying to just get by each

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day. But now, I mean, I talk to every single

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person I come in contact with. I'm very intentional

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and present in every meeting that I'm in at work,

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every time I have some type of interaction with

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family members, friends. I'm just more focused

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on what I'm doing. I have a lot of energy. And,

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you know, I'm up at 5, 5 .30 each morning now.

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You know getting my my print time my reading

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time in preparing for the day And uh just you

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know, I mean life has just changed so much more

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for the positive Well, and you just spoke on

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that too. I was gonna say I clearly see you have

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more energy. I do see you're more focused and

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not so confused and Not fatigued. I mean usually

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during the day, even though he's standing on

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his feet. I could just see him tired and fatigued,

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but that's I see clear eyes and clear head. It's

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just been amazing to change. What a blessing.

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Elise, how hard was it? I know it was difficult

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for Mike, but how hard was it for you? Not a

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lot of people, I guess, consider the struggles

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of the spouse who's going through the person

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who has a horrible ailment. How hard was it for

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you to cope with it, to live with it, to help

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him with it, seeing the man that you saw as a

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strong person succumbing to this illness? And

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are you fearful at all that there might be signs

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or symptoms of it coming back anytime soon? Well,

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I'll say this. It has been an adjustment because,

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you know, Michael handled everything, you know,

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and when I ask him to do something or he just

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takes charge or he just leads our family and

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then one day he just doesn't or can't. It's a

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wake up call. But to say I'm fearful, I'll share.

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A while ago, probably back in 2009 or 10, we

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had only been in Pinellas County for a short

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time. I was already seeing the signs that he

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was gonna, he's had high blood pressure, he had

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high cholesterol. I just knew he was gonna have

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a heart attack any time now. Didn't exercise

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and I just laid there in bed one morning. Kind

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of like 3 .30, 4 .30 in the morning, you're kind

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of half awake, half asleep. I remember just saying,

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Lord, what's going to be our future? I mean,

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am I going to be a widow? And that didn't get

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answered right away. But I'm like, what about

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the kids in school? We wanted to send them to

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a Christian school up to a, you know, I homeschooled

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for them up till middle school. And we knew we

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were going to send them to high school. I'm like,

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what about their school tuition? And he said,

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I got it. I'll take care of it. And then I was

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like, well, what if something happens to them?

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He said I got you. It'll be okay. Like what about

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the house? What about the cars? What do I do?

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He said I have it So that time on I wasn't fearful

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because I knew my god would take care of me because

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he loves me I guess, you know, I mean it's he

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says unless you're like these little children

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You can't inherit the kingdom of heaven and that's

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what it's like to be a child is not knowing Where

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your security is coming from specifically just

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know who is the security bringer? Right. So I

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take it all to him. I Initially it's like okay,

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you know little inconveniences in the daily life

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disrupts me big things and crises I'm like, okay

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right away. I know God's got it Same I can get

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derailed over the smallest thing but the biggest

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things I'm like solid Yep So I know he's got

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it I know he's got the answers and I know One

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day we're all going to be in heaven, so I don't

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really need to fear anything. Wonderful answer.

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That's so true. Hey friends, real quick talk.

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Not long ago, I had a brutal four -day headache.

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My podcast coach, Genele Samuel, messaged, I

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wish I could put one of these patches on you.

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I asked, what patches? She sent me an episode

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on LifeWaves X39, non -transdermal patches that

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use light to support the body. No drugs, no chemicals,

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just light. Wildly enough, chemical men once

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prophesied healing would come through light.

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Since trying them, I've had better sleep and

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more energy. And Josh, he's even been pain free

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when he wears them. And the stories we're hearing,

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they truly sound like God moving. I'm not saying

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patches replace faith, but if you've been praying

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for breakthrough, maybe this is part of the answer.

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Curious? Tap the LifeWave link in my About section.

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Of course, they're not meant to treat or diagnose

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anything. But wow, the testimonies are powerful.

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Now, back to more of God's goodness on the show.

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for what we get engaged in these days, because

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we wanna add value to whatever, we feel like

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whatever the Lord's gonna have us do is gonna

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add value. It's gonna be for kingdom building.

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So we're actually coaching. So we do some coaching

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these days, mainly around leadership. I come

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from the healthcare executive world. I'm leading

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C -suite for Christ here locally in Charlotte,

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working with a lot of business leaders and owners.

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And I see them going through some of the same

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issues and it's finished in some of the same

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pitfalls that I did. So I try to, I give a lot

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of unsolicited advice. If my kids ever listen

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to this, they will know I love giving unsolicited

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advice. And so I do that. The Lord's really emboldened

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me and taking away any fear for what others may

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say or things or whatever the case may be. So

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we we do some coaching because there's some important

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aspects that people need to consider when they're

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out there and leading larger organizations or

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their entrepreneurs starting their own business

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or things of that nature and you know, there's

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You know, we we call it, you know the well -being

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of a leader and you need to make sure that your

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mind body spirit Relationships are in order and

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you focus on them. Mine mindset is key I mean

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when I was struggling at my most and I couldn't,

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the recall and the memory issues were at their

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worst. I mean, my whole confidence was just,

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was not where it needed to be. I mean, I was

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severely struggling, not just physically, but

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mentally. So mindset is key. And then your body,

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you got to exercise, you got to eat right. You

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know, so that's your mind, that's your body,

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your spirit, your relationship with Christ. In

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order to be a selfless or a servant leader, okay,

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in order to be selfless or a servant leader,

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You have to be selfish about your relationship

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with Christ you have to Otherwise, you're no

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good to anyone. Your cup is empty. You have nothing

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left to pour out and then relationships Your

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relationships have to be with people you trust

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people that build you up that are positive in

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your life And that hold you accountable that

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you allow them to hold you accountable I mean,

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so those are really four key areas in your life

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mind body spirit relationships You have to focus

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in on And you have to be selfish about these

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areas. Otherwise, you can't be the selfish or

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stubborn leader that you strive to be. Right.

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You can't pour from an empty cup. You cannot.

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But as we carry that a little further, we go

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into what we call the four pillars of well -being.

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They all begin with the letter R. I am a pastor,

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you know, so we have to begin everything in the

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same letter. Kind of make it easier for people.

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Yes, right. Rest, refocus, recharge, or recommit,

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okay? And rest does not sleep. Psalm 46 10 says,

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be still and know that I am God. He wants us

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to stop. He wants us to pause. You know, the

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same way he told the Israelites when they were

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standing at the Red Sea, he told Moses, tell

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them to stand still, not to do anything, okay?

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He wants us to stop. He wants us to be still.

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And the society today just says, go, go, go.

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You know, you have to drive through mentality.

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you know we have to take moments for ourselves

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to be able to stop and understand what's going

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on hit that pause button not the snooze button

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the pause button and listen to your body because

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you're the only one that can hear what your body's

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saying no one else can people may be able to

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see it but they can't listen and hear what your

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body's telling you believe it or not your body

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will talk to you your body will tell you things

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that caffeine's telling you something that quiver

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in your fingers telling you something that headache

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is saying something to you. Josh, you know what

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I'm talking about. I do. Men specifically do

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not listen to their bodies. I mean, we have so

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many aches and pains from chores and doing manly

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deeds like lifting lawn mowers up over walls

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or whatever that we just ignore littler pains

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because we experience so much in our life that

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we don't take seriously enough, especially as

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we get older, that there could be. Ramifications

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behind those pains that we don't know anything

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about because we just assume it's just a little

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worse than what we had before It's just a little

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indigestion and you know, we're getting older

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so we dismiss it instead of seeing a primary

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care physician We're very foolish that way Some

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women are like that too. They have to keep going

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because their families depend on them They've

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always been the one that everyone relies on so

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if they slow down, you know, it's like oh, you

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know That's absolutely true. We just Keep going.

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Someone's got to get it done. The next thing

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to do, you just don't stop. And that's why the

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devil doesn't like marriage is because when one

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person is down, the other one can come in and

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say, I got this, you know, teamwork. Yes. Yeah.

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And we just celebrated our 26th anniversary a

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couple of days ago. Congratulations. Congratulations.

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Your picture was so cute on Facebook. They had

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matching pink outfits. It was cute. That we did.

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So yes, so rest we have to get we have to listen

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to our bodies We have to listen to what the Lord

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is telling us to do You know because you know,

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it's just like our prayer life so many times

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We'll sit down and we'll say thank you lord for

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what what you've given us and we just move on

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You have to stop you have to listen. You cannot

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have a relationship if all you ever do is talk

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You have to stop and listen. So that's the rest

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focus the refocus is that mindset shift that

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really ties into that spirit relationship that

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we just talked about a minute ago, getting, you

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know, really becoming selfish about your relationship

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with the Lord. He desires to have that relationship

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with us. Otherwise, in John, he would never have

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called us friend. You know, he calls us child,

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adopted children, but Jesus says, I call you

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friend. You know, so he wants that relationship.

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And our God is a jealous God. He wants a relationship

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with us and we resist it so much. So you can't

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have that mindset shift if you don't have that

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focus on the Lord. If you're not selfish about

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that relationship, getting up every morning,

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giving him your first fruits, doing the reading,

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having that prayer life, having that prayer life

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without ceasing. You know, the word tells us

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to pray without ceasing. And listen, we don't

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have because we struggle in our fate, we doubt.

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So getting your mindset shift right and refocusing,

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you know, so there's a couple of, so I give examples

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when I'm coaching to people. So on that rest,

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the way I handle that rest is I literally will

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remove myself or whatever that situation is that's

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causing me that stress. For me here, we got a

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lot of property, so I'd go outside. If I'm not

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on my property, I'll find a way to get outside

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and just be amongst nature, be amongst creation.

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You know, and that gives me that moment to be

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able to pause because I removed myself from the

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situation. And the refocus is that mindset shift.

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For some people, you know, it's a prayer, it's

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meditation. For some people, it's reading. You

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know, pick up the Bible and read. You know, it

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may be just going for a short walk. You know,

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find... whatever that refocus is for you so we

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rest we refocus and then we recharge you know

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and recharge and again we're not talking this

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is so these four pillars are so simple but i

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would ask the question why aren't you doing them

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you know and it's because we live in a society

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that is so fast paced and it's so selfish and

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stubborn it wants everything for ourselves So

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when we rest, we refocus, we start to recharge

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and that recharge is Walt Reed hobbies, time

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with your family, shopping, dining, coffee for

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my lovely bride sitting beside me. It is her

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choice of recharging. It's funny because she'll

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use it to recharge, but she'll also use it to

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drink just before she goes to bed. So it's really

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weird for me. I just thought I would throw that

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out there. So we recharge, but you need to figure

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out what that recharge is for you. And then the

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last R is recommitment. Something has to change.

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Remember, rest, we removed ourself from that

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situation. Okay, we're not talking about fleeing.

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We refocus, we recharge. Your recommitment has

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to involve some type of change before you put

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yourself right back in the same situation. Otherwise,

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you'll be back in the same place. You'll be back

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to being stressed. For example, so many people

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think, especially leaders, my calendar has to

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be full. I can't have any white space on my calendar.

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I can't put time on there for myself. I'm here

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to tell you, your calendar will let you put time

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on there for yourself. And if you don't have

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time each day and each week, you're going to

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have problems. The beginning of this year, really

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right around the time we recorded the first podcast,

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I sat down with Elise and I said, we need to

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put lots of time on my calendar. So we have lots

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of time on my calendar. Thursday is my only late

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day. I'm not saying that I'm perfect in this,

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but that's what I try to keep it to. If someone

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wants to have a meeting out in California, I'm

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going to say, well, Thursday is your day because

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I can't work till 7 or 8 o 'clock because she's

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spending time with her mom, you know, and she

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spends time with her mom late on Thursday. So

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we align our schedules. I try to put break times

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each day. Now they'll differ because things will,

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meetings will run over and things don't make

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sure. But the point is, you're trying and you're

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attempting to put time for yourself for your

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own well -being and guess what guys you can take

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lunch each day no matter what you think you can

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take lunch and guess what you can also take vacations

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every year i didn't take a vacation for 12 years

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even though when we would be on vacations i wasn't

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on vacation yeah and she'll she'll tell you right

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now that i wasn't present yeah so hey friend

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I don't like vacations myself. I find myself

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worrying about all these aspects of like, you

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know, the dogs or, you know, keeping the family

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safe or, you know, other drivers, what we're

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going to check into. Like, it just, there's no

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relaxation for me. And so like - Calling things

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in and out of the car, taking the dogs out. Never

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look forward to it. I was like, when do I relax?

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And then Shelly has, you know, like agendas,

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like this is what I want to do. Boom, boom, boom,

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boom. And I'm like, well, I don't want to do

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any of that. I want I just want to I just want

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to somewhere else or or sit in and look over

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a lake or something and just Sit and vegetate.

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Yeah, we are not alike in what we think the kitchens

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are That would be interesting Honestly, I mean

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I could probably take a weekend by myself and

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just go camping and I'd be okay I wouldn't need

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a whole week. I wouldn't need a lot of things

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but that's because you're not protecting anybody

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Just me. Yeah, that's and I can trust God for

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that So rest refocus recharge and recommitment

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and as you were saying that things kept popping

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in my head of what that looked like to me And

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I think in rest, you know, what is it really

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about? It's pretty much how much do you trust

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God? Right. I can't rest unless I trust him.

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I Can't relax unless I really trust him and it's

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God saying hey don't do this How much do you

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trust me to just be still? How much do you trust

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me not to do this plan that you have and just

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wait for me? And I'm thinking, you know, when

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you refocus is God's asking you, who do you think

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I am? You know, what do you believe is true about

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me? If I think I have to do something that God's

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telling me to be still, what am I not believing

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about God that I need to refocus on? And recharging,

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I just liken it to renewing your thinking so

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that you can have correct alignment with what

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God is telling you through these steps. And then

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the recommitment is obviously walking the path

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that is revealed to you by those previous three.

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And as you were saying, I had to write it down

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because it was just coming to me that way, and

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I didn't want to forget it. And I think that's

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a very powerful, very powerful R's to go with,

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to think and ponder about. And you have to really

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be disciplined with it. It's a discipline to

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be learned. You have to keep practicing it for

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it to be better and better. Just like soccer

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players, dancers, they have to practice, practice,

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practice. And sometimes being still before the

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Lord, it was a discipline for me because my mind

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goes a hundred miles each way all the time. That's

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a good way for a collision. I write it down so

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I can get it out of my head. Then I just keep

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going. And it's gotten a lot easier. over the

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years and i'm only probably 40 50 where i need

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to be right now but i was at zero before so made

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great strides but but just to your point i mean

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it the point there is it looks different for

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everyone but but only you can take the first

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step you know it's the same thing the lord's

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telling us to do in our relationship just take

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that first step just accept the gift man i got

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you You know, it's the same thing Elise was just

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saying when you know back in 2009 2010 when she

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was worried about my health and worried about

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things that were going on my wife The Lord said

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I I got you and that's that's literal. I mean

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he literally does he has carried us Through these

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past 26 years together and before that me, you

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know for for years Because I can't do this on

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my own and listen as we tied this back to leadership

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If you're seeking or you're stating that you're

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a servant leader, the only way I want you to,

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I want you to hear me. The only way to be a servant

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leader, a true servant leader is to have that

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relationship with Christ. He was the first and

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the greatest example of servant leadership, especially

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how, you know, he, he led so many here, but he

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really focused on those 12, you know, and there's

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really five key areas that he focused on. You

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know, he put others first above himself, you

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know, Empowerment and development. He empowered

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his disciples and he developed his disciples

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And he shared the power in decision -making with

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them He didn't say it's my way or the highway

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even though he's the creator and he was God and

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he is God He didn't say it's my way or the highway,

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you know, he shared that power in that decision

00:27:01.579 --> 00:27:05.180
-making He allowed them, you know, he was humble

00:27:05.180 --> 00:27:08.980
in spirit in us and had that servants attitude

00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:12.730
you know to serve it and Do we even need to talk

00:27:12.730 --> 00:27:15.430
about behavior and integrity? I mean, we don't

00:27:15.430 --> 00:27:17.750
have to mention that. But those are five key

00:27:17.750 --> 00:27:20.910
areas. You know, you know, several leaders prioritize

00:27:20.910 --> 00:27:23.049
the needs and well -being of their team members

00:27:23.049 --> 00:27:25.049
and their stakeholders and their organization

00:27:25.049 --> 00:27:28.309
and those around them. That's why it's so important

00:27:28.309 --> 00:27:32.069
that you become selfish as a leader because you

00:27:32.069 --> 00:27:36.109
put everyone else first. You have to become selfish

00:27:36.109 --> 00:27:37.730
about your well -being and your relationship

00:27:37.730 --> 00:27:40.690
with Christ in order to have that selfless attitude.

00:27:40.779 --> 00:27:43.380
Mm -hmm. Otherwise you're going to fail. You

00:27:43.380 --> 00:27:45.720
will not sustain it. It shows you said you can't

00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.220
pour from an empty cup. You can't. There's a

00:27:48.220 --> 00:27:50.160
reason why the Shema is written the way it is

00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:51.980
to love the Lord your God with all your strength

00:27:51.980 --> 00:27:54.400
mind soul and might and then the love your neighbor

00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.500
as you love yourself. Yep. There's this particular

00:27:57.500 --> 00:28:00.819
reason why you love God first and then it's love

00:28:00.819 --> 00:28:03.319
your neighbor as yourself. And I think we might

00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:05.460
have mentioned the last time that it's very hard

00:28:05.460 --> 00:28:08.319
for people to love their neighbor, especially

00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.980
in today's climate. primarily because they don't

00:28:11.980 --> 00:28:14.400
have relationship with God, and secondarily,

00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:19.660
they don't love themselves. Oh, yeah. We're seeing

00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:22.759
the fruits of that ill labor in our country,

00:28:23.259 --> 00:28:25.599
and other countries, in the news, in places,

00:28:26.380 --> 00:28:29.640
that when we had more people grounded in Christianity

00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:31.680
in this country, we did not see these things.

00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:35.519
And now that we are drifted away from a Christ

00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:39.339
-centered everything that we did, We're seeing

00:28:39.339 --> 00:28:41.680
huge problems in places that we had not seen

00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.539
before. I think of the laws of nature, which

00:28:45.539 --> 00:28:48.740
of course God created. And nature abhors a vacuum.

00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:51.200
So if you take God out of schools, what's going

00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.900
to go into the school? You take good out of something,

00:28:54.019 --> 00:28:56.779
what's going to replace it? And we're seeing

00:28:56.779 --> 00:28:59.480
the fruit of that. We're seeing what happens

00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.359
when people reject God all over the place. And

00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:05.799
I'm so glad that we have people like you that

00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.519
are. Speaking about the miracles that God is

00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.579
still performing So that we can still keep people

00:29:11.579 --> 00:29:13.940
focused that God has not abandoned us that we

00:29:13.940 --> 00:29:18.400
are a people that has abandoned God Exactly Yeah,

00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.779
I mean the miracles are not just in the Bible

00:29:20.779 --> 00:29:24.400
the miracles happen around us every single day

00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:28.539
The fact that I woke up this morning is a miracle

00:29:28.539 --> 00:29:30.799
the fact that I have life in this body and breath

00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.400
in these lungs is a miracle When you don't put

00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.910
God first I mean and you try to do it on your

00:29:37.910 --> 00:29:39.769
own. I mean you're on dangerous grounds I want

00:29:39.769 --> 00:29:41.730
to read I want to read these verses real quick

00:29:41.730 --> 00:29:43.789
because this just popped me in and These are

00:29:43.789 --> 00:29:46.089
some of my favorite verses in all the Bible and

00:29:46.089 --> 00:29:48.769
I love to tie them back to Psalm 23 But it's

00:29:48.769 --> 00:29:51.150
John 10. I'll read from the NID where it says

00:29:51.150 --> 00:29:53.589
very truly I tell you Pharisees anyone who does

00:29:53.589 --> 00:29:56.730
not enter the sheep pen by the gate But climbs

00:29:56.730 --> 00:29:59.609
in by some other way is a thief and a robber.

00:29:59.609 --> 00:30:02.349
That's our enemy You know the one who enters

00:30:02.349 --> 00:30:05.220
by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep the

00:30:05.220 --> 00:30:07.539
gatekeeper opens the gate for him and the sheep

00:30:07.539 --> 00:30:11.819
listen to his voice he calls his own sheep by

00:30:11.819 --> 00:30:15.859
name and leads them out when he has brought out

00:30:15.859 --> 00:30:19.559
all of his own he goes on ahead of them and his

00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.519
sheep follow him because they know his voice

00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.240
he's there's some keep there's so much you can

00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.960
pull out of from there but but what i'll say

00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:32.960
is he goes ahead of us he is out in front of

00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:37.809
us leading us His sheep know his voice and they

00:30:37.809 --> 00:30:40.250
will never follow a stranger. In fact, they will

00:30:40.250 --> 00:30:42.410
run away from him because they do not recognize

00:30:42.410 --> 00:30:46.890
a stranger's voice. We, without being selfish

00:30:46.890 --> 00:30:50.569
and having that relationship, you will not know

00:30:50.569 --> 00:30:54.269
his voice. So when he speaks to you, because

00:30:54.269 --> 00:30:57.509
we have a very cunning enemy that wants to speak

00:30:57.509 --> 00:31:00.230
the same way and use the same words and just

00:31:00.230 --> 00:31:03.720
put small little tweaks on them. Just like he

00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.279
did in the garden with Eve It's no different.

00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:09.339
He's very cunning. He's very good at what he

00:31:09.339 --> 00:31:13.119
does So we have to read we have to pray we have

00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:15.500
to be selfish about that relationship and we

00:31:15.500 --> 00:31:17.599
know his voice so then when you tie back and

00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:20.980
you read Psalm 23 and he says and it says My

00:31:20.980 --> 00:31:24.400
shepherd. I mean it becomes very personal to

00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.920
you when you read those verses I love tying those

00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:30.900
those chapters back and forth between each other

00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.859
And we're so arrogant to think sometimes we don't

00:31:34.859 --> 00:31:38.799
need them that we do for everything. Oh, yes

00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.779
You know, I had heard a pastor a long time ago

00:31:42.779 --> 00:31:45.400
He said something that I vehemently disagreed

00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.799
with he was an internet pastor and he said that

00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.220
Something to the effect that the devil is prowling

00:31:51.220 --> 00:31:53.819
around like a lion seeking who's gonna confuse

00:31:53.819 --> 00:31:57.319
or to consume But I can see his leash, right?

00:31:57.740 --> 00:32:00.420
Because God's got a lot of leash and I thought

00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:03.500
how foolish of you Right if he's on a 15 -foot

00:32:03.500 --> 00:32:05.160
leash, you don't think the devil's pacing at

00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.779
13 feet away and wearing a line in so you think

00:32:07.779 --> 00:32:11.579
he's That's the limit to where he can get Like

00:32:11.579 --> 00:32:13.440
why would you flirt with that? Why would you

00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:17.740
tempt that? No rain Because if I was a clever

00:32:17.740 --> 00:32:20.079
enemy, I would pull you in close as easy as I

00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:23.740
could Yeah, well, you have to keep your mind

00:32:23.740 --> 00:32:26.920
dwelling on the things of the lord. I mean just

00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:30.650
recently I was you know, we're doing something

00:32:30.650 --> 00:32:32.750
here at home and we're really excited about it

00:32:32.750 --> 00:32:37.349
and get ready to do some stuff and My mind keeps

00:32:37.349 --> 00:32:39.109
dwelling on how exciting and what it's gonna

00:32:39.109 --> 00:32:41.069
look like and what we're gonna do and I'm then

00:32:41.069 --> 00:32:45.009
I caught myself one day thinking Wow with that

00:32:45.009 --> 00:32:47.210
same excitement and your mind is always dwelling

00:32:47.210 --> 00:32:49.710
there I should be dwelling on the Lord the very

00:32:49.710 --> 00:32:53.369
same way and Do I do that? Do I keep scripture

00:32:53.369 --> 00:32:56.069
in my head? Do I keep my mind dwelling on him?

00:32:56.980 --> 00:32:59.759
And sadly, I was convicted that I have to do

00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:05.980
a better job with that. And that keeps us on

00:33:05.980 --> 00:33:09.119
pace when we stay with the Lord. Yeah, I used

00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:11.339
to think I didn't pray enough to him until he

00:33:11.339 --> 00:33:14.720
revealed that because of my ADHD, I pray from

00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.519
when I wake up till I go to bed and I just pick

00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.099
it up in different places and continue the conversation

00:33:21.099 --> 00:33:24.819
when I'm off of whatever distracted my focus.

00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:29.380
You know, it's a continual prayer for the entire

00:33:29.380 --> 00:33:33.640
day, but he has convicted me to read more. Yeah,

00:33:33.940 --> 00:33:36.339
I'm with you on that one too. I always think

00:33:36.339 --> 00:33:38.140
I don't pray enough either, but I do talk to

00:33:38.140 --> 00:33:41.519
him throughout the whole day. Yeah, and that's

00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:43.240
important. I mean, the Bible is very clear about

00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.339
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00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:30.559
to prayer now back to the show But you know as

00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:33.219
um as we shift gears for a minute so so C -suite

00:34:33.219 --> 00:34:36.880
for Christ, you know, we had just launched C

00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.559
-suite for Christ whenever we recorded the first

00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.179
episode we did and Since then, I mean we just

00:34:45.179 --> 00:34:48.480
continue to make And I say we, when I say we,

00:34:48.619 --> 00:34:50.920
I'm including what the Lord's doing. It's different,

00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:55.460
not just me or Elise, but he has just, man, he

00:34:55.460 --> 00:35:01.280
has just overwhelmed us with what an impact we're

00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:03.440
going to be able to have in the Charlotte community

00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:07.179
and beyond with C -Suite for Christ. You know,

00:35:07.179 --> 00:35:10.199
our first monthly gathering or monthly worship

00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:13.559
experience is coming up on May the 22nd. And,

00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.500
you know, when I came into this, I knew that

00:35:16.489 --> 00:35:18.090
you know we were going to have these gatherings

00:35:18.090 --> 00:35:20.170
and my first thought is okay man how am i going

00:35:20.170 --> 00:35:22.030
to find a place how we're going to you know we

00:35:22.030 --> 00:35:23.489
serve breakfast who's going to be my speaker

00:35:23.489 --> 00:35:26.690
i'm going to find a worship leader well i forget

00:35:26.690 --> 00:35:29.809
sometimes so easily that the lord created the

00:35:29.809 --> 00:35:31.929
earth and knows every single thing that's going

00:35:31.929 --> 00:35:35.690
to happen and you know so we fast forward to

00:35:35.690 --> 00:35:37.969
today and i just sent out a note to my leadership

00:35:37.969 --> 00:35:41.469
team and i said hey i just want to confirm we

00:35:41.469 --> 00:35:46.440
have a great speaker coming in on the 22nd We've

00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.440
got a great worship leader. We have breakfast

00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.780
already confirmed. We have a location that we've

00:35:51.780 --> 00:35:55.400
confirmed. We have all the live stream equipment

00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:58.199
purchase. We have someone that's running all

00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:01.099
of that equipment for us. You know, we've got

00:36:01.099 --> 00:36:04.019
31 people. Actually, I think it's closer to 40

00:36:04.019 --> 00:36:07.659
now already confirmed to come. We sent out more

00:36:07.659 --> 00:36:10.239
invitations, more people just registered today,

00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.920
and it just continues to amaze me. The little

00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:18.179
things that I was worried about. I need to learn

00:36:18.179 --> 00:36:23.619
better that the Lord already has this. We're

00:36:23.619 --> 00:36:25.980
continuing to make a big impact. We're working

00:36:25.980 --> 00:36:28.639
with a lot of nonprofit organizations. We're

00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.340
doing a lot of work with veterans. We're helping

00:36:31.340 --> 00:36:34.380
with some nonprofits from a marketing perspective.

00:36:34.900 --> 00:36:38.159
We've stood up pilot mentorship programs. Like

00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.000
I said, we're helping veterans get jobs, transition

00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:43.360
out of the military into civilian life. helping

00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.599
them with homelessness and homes and the social

00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:48.880
aspect of things they have to deal with post

00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:53.380
-military. I mean, in eight weeks, it is amazing

00:36:53.380 --> 00:36:57.119
the work that we're doing through C -suite for

00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.340
Christ. You know, and when I originally came

00:36:59.340 --> 00:37:01.300
into this, I said, okay, you know, I'll probably,

00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.360
you know, I've got the leadership experience

00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.320
from healthcare, and, you know, I'll be able

00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:07.719
to use that. I'm also a pastor, and I didn't

00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.280
think I would use the skills or the gifts the

00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:12.559
Lord had given me through that. I will tell you,

00:37:12.750 --> 00:37:15.570
The people that I'm encountering, these leaders,

00:37:16.050 --> 00:37:17.789
that everybody looks at and says, wow, they got

00:37:17.789 --> 00:37:21.750
it all in their control, they don't. They're

00:37:21.750 --> 00:37:23.929
suffering walls just the same way you and I are

00:37:23.929 --> 00:37:26.869
and everyone else around them are. They've lost

00:37:26.869 --> 00:37:29.610
their parents, their loved ones, they're going

00:37:29.610 --> 00:37:32.409
through divorce, they've lost jobs. I keep running

00:37:32.409 --> 00:37:34.489
into people that are struggling with MS or their

00:37:34.489 --> 00:37:37.090
family members are struggling with MS. They need

00:37:37.090 --> 00:37:40.710
prayer. That's what I'm dealing with and that's

00:37:40.710 --> 00:37:44.159
why we're here. We are here to cover the world

00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.139
in Christ. We are here to partner with leaderships

00:37:47.139 --> 00:37:49.940
out in the marketplace, but we are here to make

00:37:49.940 --> 00:37:53.639
disciples. Matthew 20 and 19 make disciples.

00:37:54.300 --> 00:37:56.320
You know, and we're doing it through the workplace

00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:59.400
because the ripple effects can be so far reaching.

00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:02.179
You work with these leaders and we have a marriage

00:38:02.179 --> 00:38:03.940
ministry that we work with their marriage as

00:38:03.940 --> 00:38:06.920
well, but the ripple effects. from what we can

00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.000
influence them to do in their workplace, their

00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.320
organization, their teams, their customers, their

00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:15.239
community, is so far -reaching. So far -reaching.

00:38:16.460 --> 00:38:19.579
Incredible. Sometimes we forget when God tasked

00:38:19.579 --> 00:38:22.059
us to do something, we just have to be obedient

00:38:22.059 --> 00:38:24.260
to walk with it, and He's going to supply all

00:38:24.260 --> 00:38:26.119
the results and everything we need to go with

00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:30.079
it. Yeah. Yeah, for some of us, He doesn't even

00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:31.900
bother telling us or tasking us with things.

00:38:31.900 --> 00:38:35.010
He just puts people in our way. that we get to

00:38:35.010 --> 00:38:37.789
talk to. And I mean, that's just how he does

00:38:37.789 --> 00:38:40.269
it for me. When he does it for Shelly, he knows

00:38:40.269 --> 00:38:42.170
that I'm on board because I do whatever she wants

00:38:42.170 --> 00:38:44.889
me to do. I like the podcast. He didn't reveal

00:38:44.889 --> 00:38:47.090
that he wanted to do the podcast. And I mean,

00:38:47.150 --> 00:38:49.690
at first, I didn't like it because I'm very introverted.

00:38:49.949 --> 00:38:53.030
I hated the idea. I would tell guests that I'm

00:38:53.030 --> 00:38:55.110
just doing it for my wife until she told me that

00:38:55.110 --> 00:38:57.559
bothered her. And then I reflected on it and

00:38:57.559 --> 00:38:59.519
I asked God about it, and he revealed to me that

00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.960
we're married, right? Two flesh became one. That

00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:03.800
he did tell me to do the podcast, but he just

00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:05.139
told the part of me that wasn't going to listen

00:39:05.139 --> 00:39:08.460
and do it. And as far as, you know, I get to,

00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:11.039
I meet random strangers in the silliest places,

00:39:11.179 --> 00:39:13.500
not just in their houses while they're sick,

00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.820
but in the gas station picking up a drink. People

00:39:16.820 --> 00:39:19.159
just open up and talk to me and tell me things.

00:39:20.019 --> 00:39:22.960
It's wild how many people come up and talk to

00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.940
me. How many weird people. I literally had somebody

00:39:25.940 --> 00:39:29.500
in a Taco Bell the other night wearing a onesie

00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:33.579
and a diaper. Probably a 25 -ish year old man

00:39:33.579 --> 00:39:37.519
who just started talking to me and we started

00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.780
a conversation. And I would never talk to this

00:39:40.780 --> 00:39:45.219
person on my own. I'm a big fan of, hey, you

00:39:45.219 --> 00:39:46.900
do you and I'll do me. You stay over there and

00:39:46.900 --> 00:39:49.320
I'll stay over here. It's fine. But then he started

00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.099
a conversation with me. And so, you know, while

00:39:52.099 --> 00:39:54.099
I was waiting for food, which took way longer

00:39:54.099 --> 00:39:56.820
than it should have, we had a really good discussion.

00:39:57.539 --> 00:40:00.519
And this is things that God brings into my life.

00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:03.239
And I think he gets a chuckle because he knows

00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:05.019
I'm introverted and he knows that I don't like

00:40:05.019 --> 00:40:07.039
it. And he knows that I won't tell him no when

00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.739
I'm faced with it. And so I think he gets a good

00:40:09.739 --> 00:40:14.099
chuckle out of that. Yeah. Isn't it that I love

00:40:14.099 --> 00:40:16.719
that story, but isn't it amazing how we'll read

00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.679
the stories of how And the Lord told Moses he

00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:21.599
was going to speak to people. And Moses said,

00:40:21.980 --> 00:40:24.119
well, I can't speak. You know, I don't have the

00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.119
gift of speech. And the Lord said, well, I got

00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:27.800
it. I'll take care of it. OK, here's your brother.

00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:29.820
He's a great speaker. I'm going to give it. And

00:40:29.820 --> 00:40:32.000
we look at that film. We say, oh, yes, but Moses

00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:34.440
needs to get over it. When it comes to our own

00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.420
lives, we're saying, no, I can't do that. Oh,

00:40:37.420 --> 00:40:40.039
yeah, yeah. The Lord's saying, remember what

00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:42.400
I did for Moses. Remember what I did for Noah.

00:40:42.500 --> 00:40:44.820
Remember what I did for Paul and everyone that

00:40:44.820 --> 00:40:47.579
we read about the Bible. We're no different.

00:40:47.659 --> 00:40:49.619
We're in a different time, but we're no different.

00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.420
If we allow the Lord to lead and guide us, He

00:40:52.420 --> 00:40:55.320
will give us the gifts that we need at the right

00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.340
time that we need them. I'm with you, Josh. I'm

00:40:58.340 --> 00:41:01.380
an introvert by nature, but now, you know, the

00:41:01.380 --> 00:41:03.460
Lord has put me out there on these podcasts and

00:41:03.460 --> 00:41:05.719
all these meetings and meeting all these people.

00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.480
I will tell you, yesterday I was sitting at a

00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.719
table at a place that I should never be sitting.

00:41:13.130 --> 00:41:15.510
Amongst people that everyone on this call would

00:41:15.510 --> 00:41:18.650
know and listeners would know and I sat at this

00:41:18.650 --> 00:41:21.769
table with these Leaders and these well -known

00:41:21.769 --> 00:41:25.750
people and they were talking about You know struggles

00:41:25.750 --> 00:41:29.050
and people that they are helping in the name

00:41:29.050 --> 00:41:33.510
of Jesus You know and how how we can more color

00:41:33.510 --> 00:41:36.590
better collaborate together to get the message

00:41:36.590 --> 00:41:40.050
out better Not just in Charlotte, but all over

00:41:40.050 --> 00:41:43.460
this country in this world And I love the fact

00:41:43.460 --> 00:41:45.539
that and i'm just gonna say this because I know

00:41:45.539 --> 00:41:47.780
we're probably coming to the end I love the fact

00:41:47.780 --> 00:41:49.760
that we got on this podcast and some people may

00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:51.860
think we have scripts and we're readings or something

00:41:51.860 --> 00:41:56.000
We don't have scripts. This conversation is 100

00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:59.059
led by the spirit and the conversation has gone

00:41:59.059 --> 00:42:02.420
where the lord wants it to go So we're not reading

00:42:02.420 --> 00:42:05.000
from anything, you know, and I love the fact

00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:06.739
that that you know verses pop in our head We

00:42:06.739 --> 00:42:09.380
say them, you know the conversation leads, you

00:42:09.380 --> 00:42:12.219
know, we're going back and forth, you know And

00:42:12.219 --> 00:42:14.219
we're not close together, you know, we're not

00:42:14.219 --> 00:42:16.599
sick of the studio together We're just allowing

00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:19.519
this conversation to float and we know that for

00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:21.320
some of the listeners that are listening right

00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.719
now or later or years from now Someone needs

00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:31.139
to hear what we're saying today. Mm -hmm Yeah,

00:42:32.579 --> 00:42:35.059
the only thing scripted here was the intro we

00:42:35.059 --> 00:42:39.199
want to work in excellence And do it justice

00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.519
God has amazing ways how he speaks through this

00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:44.940
podcast and the connections because I'm able

00:42:44.940 --> 00:42:49.719
to connect past guests. And it's just really

00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.340
neat how he's working through everyone's life.

00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.679
And it's all because when we share our needs

00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:57.940
and our concerns, you know, there's somebody

00:42:58.219 --> 00:43:00.320
You know that person you're speaking to can think

00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.539
of and say hey You might be interested in this

00:43:02.539 --> 00:43:05.380
or whatnot because then it could lead to miracles

00:43:05.380 --> 00:43:08.239
like those patches You know, so when we do share

00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:11.059
with others and do come out of ourselves, you

00:43:11.059 --> 00:43:14.579
know You never know what god can do with that

00:43:14.579 --> 00:43:18.059
Oh, it's amazing. I mean one of my closest friends

00:43:18.059 --> 00:43:19.619
now i'm going to give a shout out to my brother

00:43:19.619 --> 00:43:24.320
ben in He's a former guest on here And uh, we've

00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:28.650
really connected And he writes all my daily devotions

00:43:28.650 --> 00:43:31.989
now for all the members here in Charlotte for

00:43:31.989 --> 00:43:34.210
C -Suite for Christ. They go out at 6 a .m. every

00:43:34.210 --> 00:43:37.170
morning, and they are touching people's lives.

00:43:37.449 --> 00:43:39.489
And he's heavily involved in the work we're doing

00:43:39.489 --> 00:43:44.489
here. And that came out of me being obedient

00:43:44.489 --> 00:43:47.610
to join C -Suite. You know, did he introduce

00:43:47.610 --> 00:43:51.789
me to Shelly and Josh on here? And Ben and I

00:43:51.789 --> 00:43:55.309
got closer. He had a tragedy a couple weeks ago

00:43:55.309 --> 00:43:57.210
where a tree fell into his house. So Elise and

00:43:57.210 --> 00:43:59.610
I, you know, sent some things to his kids to

00:43:59.610 --> 00:44:02.110
make him feel better this weekend. He's he's

00:44:02.110 --> 00:44:05.010
a keynote speaker and an event. I mean, so I

00:44:05.010 --> 00:44:07.730
mean, all of that is not coincident. It is God

00:44:07.730 --> 00:44:10.309
ordained. And when you start seeing your conversations

00:44:10.309 --> 00:44:13.309
as ordained by the Lord with everyone you come

00:44:13.309 --> 00:44:15.829
in contact with, you will look at those conversations

00:44:15.829 --> 00:44:18.230
differently. You will be more intentional and

00:44:18.230 --> 00:44:20.070
more present in who you're talking to. And I

00:44:20.070 --> 00:44:22.429
think Elise had something to say. Well, no, I

00:44:22.429 --> 00:44:24.489
was just I was thinking in my head at the same

00:44:24.489 --> 00:44:28.389
time as we do like together too, you know things

00:44:28.389 --> 00:44:32.309
happen like that catastrophe that he had but

00:44:32.309 --> 00:44:35.369
We're also here for each other to lift each other

00:44:35.369 --> 00:44:38.130
up as well because there's no telling you know

00:44:38.130 --> 00:44:41.949
who we might encounter as a Fellow Christian

00:44:41.949 --> 00:44:45.050
that's been down and we need to help lift them

00:44:45.050 --> 00:44:50.170
up Yeah, sure. I've been saying that for Over

00:44:50.170 --> 00:44:52.469
a decade that one of the greatest gifts that

00:44:52.469 --> 00:44:56.429
God has given us is each other Yes, and the church

00:44:56.429 --> 00:44:59.630
and some people just you know It's hard for them

00:44:59.630 --> 00:45:02.289
to accept that that because they're so at odds

00:45:02.289 --> 00:45:04.650
with each other. We need to be united We need

00:45:04.650 --> 00:45:08.010
to have the same mind and we all need each other

00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:11.139
For sure. Right. And it's about receiving the

00:45:11.139 --> 00:45:13.639
gift that he gives us. And if people are a gift,

00:45:13.659 --> 00:45:15.599
we need to receive that gift. We need to receive

00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:18.079
that help. We can't be the man in the middle

00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:19.739
of the night saying, no, this is nothing. I'm

00:45:19.739 --> 00:45:22.460
not calling the hospital. Right. We need to say,

00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:24.659
yeah, you know what? I will take this help. I

00:45:24.659 --> 00:45:27.199
do need help. You know what? Maybe I can do this,

00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.659
but I can do it faster with help. Right. And

00:45:30.659 --> 00:45:33.079
the gift isn't yours until you take it. Correct.

00:45:35.139 --> 00:45:40.440
Wow. That's powerful. Yeah, I think it's a thing

00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:42.820
a lot of us have a hard time receiving and I

00:45:42.820 --> 00:45:45.079
think most of it is because we don't love ourselves

00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.739
And we don't believe that worth receiving gifts

00:45:47.739 --> 00:45:50.820
and I think that is very limiting for believers

00:45:50.820 --> 00:45:53.699
that have received Christ Because I feel that

00:45:53.699 --> 00:45:56.440
they haven't fully received him, right? They

00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:58.260
said yeah, I receive you and then they live their

00:45:58.260 --> 00:46:02.030
life the way they do Without receiving any other

00:46:02.030 --> 00:46:03.889
gifts from God because they don't think they're

00:46:03.889 --> 00:46:06.010
worthy And I would just like to encourage you

00:46:06.010 --> 00:46:08.929
right now that I would not send my son to die

00:46:08.929 --> 00:46:11.829
for someone if they weren't worthy And so if

00:46:11.829 --> 00:46:14.150
God being the supreme being would send his son

00:46:14.150 --> 00:46:17.150
to die for us that you are worthy No matter how

00:46:17.150 --> 00:46:19.289
wicked you were no matter how much you sin that

00:46:19.289 --> 00:46:21.650
you are worthy of love you are worthy of redemption

00:46:21.650 --> 00:46:23.889
You were worthy to be restored by the king of

00:46:23.889 --> 00:46:29.639
glory Just ask him into your heart Exactly. That's

00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.400
powerful words right there. And then you take

00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:33.739
him wherever you go and let him be the first

00:46:33.739 --> 00:46:37.000
thought of your mind every day. And then invite

00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.679
him to every single activity you're a part of

00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.739
that day and make sure he's there with you. Yeah,

00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:44.920
I like to pray when I pray and invite him in

00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:46.599
the space I'm in, even though I know he's there,

00:46:46.699 --> 00:46:50.019
just so he knows that I know. And that he's invited,

00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.079
that you can have a seat. Yeah, he's the gentleman.

00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.019
Because sometimes we need to be reminded that

00:46:56.019 --> 00:46:59.760
even just through the prayer. Mm -hmm Yeah, I

00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:04.739
I like to When I start my prayer is to thank

00:47:04.739 --> 00:47:07.119
him for allowing us to humbly come before his

00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:11.420
throne because he doesn't have to know And we're

00:47:11.420 --> 00:47:17.480
so unworthy So yeah, wow what a great conversation

00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:22.449
yeah, I mean so as we sum this up, I mean The

00:47:22.449 --> 00:47:26.110
Lord is still working miracles today. You know,

00:47:26.210 --> 00:47:30.710
He is the same God today that you read about

00:47:30.710 --> 00:47:35.409
in the Bible. He is very much alive, and He wants

00:47:35.409 --> 00:47:37.969
to have that relationship with you. He doesn't

00:47:37.969 --> 00:47:39.550
want you just to accept the gift there and go

00:47:39.550 --> 00:47:41.789
out and try to do everything on your own. He

00:47:41.789 --> 00:47:45.909
wants a relationship with you. He wants to be

00:47:45.909 --> 00:47:49.289
right there with you. And remember, when we are

00:47:49.289 --> 00:47:51.780
weak and we are weak vessels, His strength is

00:47:51.780 --> 00:47:58.300
made perfect. Amen. I got to share something

00:47:58.300 --> 00:48:01.300
before we wrap up. It's just been on my heart,

00:48:01.340 --> 00:48:03.219
but I didn't know a good spot to put it. So we're

00:48:03.219 --> 00:48:05.920
going to stick it at the end. And then just the

00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:10.300
Holy Spirit can be at peace. And one of my favorite

00:48:10.300 --> 00:48:14.530
verses the last couple of years. But seek first

00:48:14.530 --> 00:48:17.510
the kingdom of God and His righteousness and

00:48:17.510 --> 00:48:20.050
all these things shall be added to you. It's

00:48:20.050 --> 00:48:26.530
Matthew 6 33 so seek God first and See what he

00:48:26.530 --> 00:48:30.389
does Absolutely, that's the first step for sure

00:48:30.389 --> 00:48:33.250
that ties in perfectly You know, I've mentioned

00:48:33.250 --> 00:48:36.329
it in another podcast that oftentimes we don't

00:48:36.329 --> 00:48:38.789
hear what God has to say to us because we've

00:48:38.789 --> 00:48:40.550
already made up our minds of what he's going

00:48:40.550 --> 00:48:44.710
to say And so I think, you know, our listeners

00:48:44.710 --> 00:48:47.070
can take a step back and instead of knowing what

00:48:47.070 --> 00:48:49.829
you have to do, listening to what God tells you

00:48:49.829 --> 00:48:51.510
what you have to do, because what if you don't

00:48:51.510 --> 00:48:55.090
know? You just think you know. So, you know,

00:48:55.250 --> 00:48:58.050
rest, be still and know, and listen to what the

00:48:58.050 --> 00:49:00.809
Word has to say. I want to thank you both, Elise

00:49:00.809 --> 00:49:04.550
and Mike, for being on our show. Love repeat

00:49:04.550 --> 00:49:06.690
guests and I love when you bring your wife on

00:49:06.690 --> 00:49:10.389
and getting the unique perspective from her her

00:49:10.389 --> 00:49:14.289
side of this the other bed, you know of your

00:49:14.289 --> 00:49:17.730
suffering of your journeys of your Accomplishments

00:49:17.730 --> 00:49:19.670
and that that they could not have been done without

00:49:19.670 --> 00:49:23.190
her as well, right? I'm very thankful that you

00:49:23.190 --> 00:49:25.820
guys are both God -fearing and that you love

00:49:25.820 --> 00:49:29.260
him and that you are willing to share despite

00:49:29.260 --> 00:49:32.780
your introverted beginnings. I'm very pleased

00:49:32.780 --> 00:49:37.059
and touched to have you on the show. Well, thank

00:49:37.059 --> 00:49:40.880
you. Thank you for having us. Yeah, and you know,

00:49:40.940 --> 00:49:43.860
this podcast is helping people. It's bringing

00:49:43.860 --> 00:49:46.800
people together, it's making connections, and

00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:49.139
it's got the message that people need to hear

00:49:49.139 --> 00:49:52.139
going out. So thank you for being obedient because

00:49:52.139 --> 00:49:54.760
that is a word our society does not like. to

00:49:54.760 --> 00:50:00.039
hear. No, yeah, absolutely not. Well, if this

00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.480
has been a blessing to you, we ask that you pass

00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:05.380
it along so that someone else can be blessed

00:50:05.380 --> 00:50:09.019
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00:50:09.019 --> 00:50:12.139
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00:50:12.139 --> 00:50:15.019
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00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:40.079
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00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:42.780
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00:50:42.780 --> 00:50:45.599
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00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.300
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