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Welcome to the God's Goodness podcast where our mission is to encourage and highlight God's

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Goodness and modern-day miracles. We are your hosts, Josh and Shelley Hankins. Today we have

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with us a special guest. I met her through social media, her name is Barbara Frone and the way God

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connected us was really cool. I found this app called, well back when I found it, it was called

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In Faith and now they changed it to Faithia but it's all social media that's exclusively Christian

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content and Barbara, I got accepted into their program so I can post stuff in there. It's this new

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app, it only came out this year so it's like around less than 10,000 people downloaded it so far so

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it's fresh but I got ahold of Barbara through there and she agreed to be on the God's Goodness

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podcast and here she is and God was still downloading stuff into her life over the last week because

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we tried doing this a week ago and the podcast equipment just stopped working for whatever

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reason remotely so sweet water if you need to get any equipment I'm telling you sweet water is the

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way to go. They hooked us up with a brand new recorder so we wouldn't miss a beat and so today's

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the day Barbara gets to share what the Holy Spirit has been working out in her life and I'm grateful

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that we've become friends over the last however long it meant months that we've been connected

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and I just thank you for being a blessing in my life Barbara and I hope that you can be a blessing

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to others with this episode and I'll have you open us up with an opening prayer. All right thank you

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Shelly and Josh Lord we just come before you today and we are so excited to see what you have for us

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that just amazes me every day that you use us every day ordinary people to speak through and to

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work through and to be you through us and so we just give this time to you Lord we just ask you to

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bless it we ask you to cover it so there'll be no interruptions and Lord whatever you want it to

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accomplish in people's lives may it be so exactly the way you want it because we are so unique and

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each one of us we have unique needs and only you know them sometimes we won't even know them until

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you reveal them to us so we thank you Lord this is your time have your way in us in Jesus name we

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pray amen amen thank you for that so where would you like to get started oh goodness this this

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morning I was just spending time with the Lord and just you know I never know what he's going to do

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and all of a sudden I heard I heard this the devil is spreading lies about God and I thought what

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you know what what is this and I I immediately thought of the but the truth is and then he just

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get started downloading verses in me the truth is his loving kindness is better than life you know

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you find that in Psalms the truth is his goodness and mercy shall chase you down all the days of

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your life I believe you know the devil is spreading lies about God we don't trust him that he's going

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to you know that is we don't trust in his goodness and how much he loves us and all of a sudden I

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just started looking up the word goodness in the Bible and then I realized oh my gosh this podcast

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is God's goodness and you know I'm like no no wonder you're this is what you're really wanting to

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highlight devil is spreading lies about God that he is not good and like Romans one day 28 says he'll

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work all things together for good and he once told me that since not all things are good but I'm

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going to work them together for good isn't all things good it's um it's just beautiful because

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I wanted to this is this one here I want to share this with you because this was this changed my life

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I was meditating on Jeremiah 9 23 and 24 and I wanted to just I'm going to read that it says let

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not the wise man glory in his wisdom let not the mighty man glory in his might let not the rich man

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glory in his riches but let him that glory at glory in this that he understandeth and know with me

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that I am the Lord which exercise loving kindness judgment and righteousness and I actually was

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singing this because it's a scripture song throughout the day this was years ago when I when I was

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working and I'd sing it out loud if I could and sing it in my mind if I couldn't and one time I said

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one time after singing and I said Lord I want to understand and know you more and this is what I heard

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look at the last part of the verse and I said okay it says in these things I delight I forgot to say

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that yeah I am the Lord exercise loving kindness judgment and righteousness in the earth for these

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things I delight so I said okay you delight in loving kindness judgment and righteousness and

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this is what I say this is where he gave me a gold nugget he said yes he said I exercised my judgment

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on the cross I gave you my righteousness now all that's left is my loving kindness that's all that's

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left so every day you know we don't we shouldn't wake up as Christians every day looking for his

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judgment because it's done his righteousness we have it every day we should get up and we should

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look for his loving kindness that will change your life because you will get what you look for

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mm-hmm and I've been doing that ever since and that's all I see that's all I see every day

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even just recently when he was saying I want you to praise me I want you to praise me especially

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when things that are on your part that you don't like and what I've noticed this I've

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only been doing this a few days what I've noticed is the moment I praise him not that anything changes

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but my soul changes because immediately the upsetness inside of me gone and a joy comes back

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knowing that he has it on there for a reason and he's going to work it together for good

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excellent point yeah that my biggest one was I went through cancer I had breast cancer April

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2017 I was diagnosed and um August of 2018 I finally I guess acquiesced and decided I mean I went to

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healing ministers I cast it out I did well everything I could think of and finally I said okay lord

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I guess you want me to go through chemotherapy and I was not very happy about that and started

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taking chemo two months into it feeling sick as a dog and getting a little bitterness in my heart

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because I couldn't understand why would he want me to put this poison in me and why he didn't heal me

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you know I didn't yeah and you know God saw that and he he sent a lady that I barely knew I went to

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lunch with her one time when I was living in Alaska and he told her to send me a book called

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pretty a prison to praise by Merlin Carothers this it's a just a little tiny book written by a

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a an army chaplain in the Vietnam era and the whole book you know the whole books message said

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it was whatever you're going through is not worse than what my son went through on the cross I want

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you to praise before it because I'm going to work it together for good and that day I just got out of

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bed I went in front of my mirror and I said lord I thank you for what I'm going through I thank you

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for this cancer I thank you for this chemo I thank you for the way I feel and the more I did that I

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can't explain it it's like something supernatural happened in my soul the bitterness left and a

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gratefulness came inside my soul that I cannot explain I went back to my bed but months of chemo

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ahead of me still feeling sick but I I saw everything differently I looked around my my room I said oh

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my gosh you know I saw nothing but blessings I saw that I could sleep as long as I wanted I could

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watch TV when I wanted my husband was taken care of me I didn't have to go to work I had health

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insurance I put I mean I just saw nothing about blessings hmm hmm that's like it was voice activated

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yeah it's like it's it's super I mean praising him for his goodness even though things don't look

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good it's like and it turned around to him yes it's like like like they say complain and remain

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right remain in the situation as long as you're complaining but when you praise him for the situation

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even especially when you don't like it it's like he either removes it or he he brings you above it so

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it doesn't bother you you know like the eagles flying above the storms yeah you can't explain it

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because I always say when the Holy Spirit does something if you can explain it it probably wasn't

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the Holy Spirit it's he works miracles he does things super naturally yeah it's so neat how can

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be in an instant too oh absolutely absolutely in an instant and God's goodness amazes me every day

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every day I remember I was Rick Warren I think his name he wrote the book the purpose driven life

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in years ago I was getting his I was getting like an email like a devotion every day I don't

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anymore and this is the only one I remember he said I used to think life was full of like either

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you're on the mountaintop or you're in the valley he says I don't think that anymore I think life is

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like a train track you will always have good in your life alongside you know and you always have

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bad on the other side always at the same time and then and that's when I when I meditated on that

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then God that's when God gave me you know what and because I'm gonna work all the bad for good

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isn't it really all good even the bad you know I'll share this with you because this this was one

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where he that showed me something about his love that just blew my mind and I will I

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it's the beautiful thing is that nobody can take that from you once you have it when he once he

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gives that to you yeah this was actually a last year last summer I was having a very hard day I

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was just I was very angry and had a lot to do with my mother-in-law living with us at the time

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she's now in a nursing home and you know just long story short I was very upset about many things

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in our home and my husband is very very kind he's sometimes too kind I think you know he's

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he's he was doing things I did not agree with we had a caretaker come in and instead of him allowing

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her to care for my mother-in-law he would care for everybody she'd walk in the door he'd make her

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coffee he'd make her friends don't take care of his mom and I'm like what are you doing she's

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supposed to be here helping us in other words that's just an example of what I was upset about

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and I was so angry because I didn't know how to fix this it's like you know you're too nice you

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that evening I was supposed to play Banco 30 minutes away at someone's house that I did not

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I'd I'd never been there before and as I was driving and I turned into her street and I was

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looking down at my phone to see where her house was it was like I hit something I hit something

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that I felt like I was I had a brick wall they had some kind of contraption coming out on the street

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I guess the slow cars down and I did not see it I had two flat tires so I called my husband of

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course he had to get a tow truck he had to come pick me up this is 30 minutes away you know a

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thousand dollars later basically I'm sitting he takes me home I'm sitting in my office at night

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at night and I'm like Lord what's just happened I am so confused because this is not my daily

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thing with the Lord my days are usually wonderful right yeah and all of a sudden this is what he

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put on my heart my mama is German so I listened to a lot of you know I can speak German and I

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he put on my heart I have a German playlist he put on my heart to play German music that's what I did

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and the first song blew me away it was a love song and then this is what the words I was I won't

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say I won't say it in German I'll say them in English the song is called I dream with open eyes of you

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and the chorus is I dream of open eyes of you where I am you're always with me you brought me the

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wonder of the world you make me happy and this is what I heard I'm singing that song over you

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I'm like you're singing a love song over me when I am sitting here angry and everything

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you know what he said to me I'll never forget it he said um it's because you still have an unhealthy

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image of me I it just blew me away hmm yeah yeah that would do something to you he like he can take

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us being angry and you know what to top and all just to finish this off this was a Monday evening

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Wednesday my husband got a call from the place that was sending us this caretaker she actually

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quit she quit and moved you know an hour and a half away because that's where her fiance was

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wow and the very next day they said a new like a new young lady not younger I mean was obviously

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she was only 23 tattooed from top to bottom right but the moment she walked in the door

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both my husband fell in love with her and we knew that she was supposed to be there I can't explain

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it and he she didn't drink coffee and right away my husband took her into the kitchen and taught her

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how to make his mom french toast in other words he not only sang a love song over me when I was angry

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he fixed my whole thing that I was angry about hmm turned that right around turned it right around

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yeah his love is like we'll never comprehend it I think we as humans cannot love like that

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our our love we cannot love like that no the way he works out all the details is just amazing

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hmm I love that he he had these details worked out when he formed us in the womb

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and we're stumbling through trying to figure out what these are like we're trying to anticipate

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what the next move is and he already knows what it was here like the choices that we have

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he's already knows what those choices are and so he was able to weave this tapestry before

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even creations and here we are trying to stumble along like we're gonna please him in some way

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when when he just wants us to learn who he is and how he is yes it's amazing that you just

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mentioned that josh because I'm going through a bible study called created for much more or

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something like that and I just read something about that in about what you just said that

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this stuff has already happened in the heavenlies it's already done it's a done deal that's why he

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knows everything it's not that he makes you know he takes our free will away he just knows it because

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he's god and that that let me get this a book that's called created for so much more boring with god

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this is what he says in the book it says Shane Willard I think is he's a full-time minister that

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I guess he's a Hebrew scholar and Genesis 1 1 through 3 this is what he said how he summarized it

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in the beginning God Jesus the Messiah created the heavens and the earth and the earth became crazy

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and the craziness invaded your house because you did not have a revelation of the covenant

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of the nail this led your life to a continual pattern of despair because the boundaries you

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chose were consuming your covering this repair was presenting itself in the face of God's

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hidden blessings so God responded to this slap in the face by relaxing and declaring a solution

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full of grace and truth a word that was both with him and was him let the one who is light shine

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that was the whole message in Genesis 1 1 through 3 yes it this even the author says I will admit

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that this revelation of future natural events having already happened in the spiritual realm has

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caused a major paradigm shift for me I was just learning that what you just said that I was just

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I remember the day I I read that verse that says I know that he was slain before the foundation of

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the world or the earth I'm like what yeah yes I look at it that God created time space and matter

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therefore he can't exist within those parameters yes exist outside of it so if he exists outside

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of time he sees past present and future simultaneously we're just plodding along on this timeline and

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God sees it all from from the birth of Jesus right now to the death of Jesus right now he sees the

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birth of you right now to the death of me right now he sees it all right now yes right now I

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remember reading you know glaceons 220 says in the king james version it says I am crucified with

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christ it says I am you know everything you're right because since there's no time in the spiritual

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realm it's always now it's always and that's that's why Jesus could confidently take our sin away

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because he's counting for the sin yesterday today and tomorrow because he saw it all at the same time

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I know that's just see we can't even understand it can't understand that

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it's mind-blowing we got people over here beating themselves up for the sins that they do or habitual

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sins or things they can't keep themselves out of when they're in traffic or or things and they feel

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to realize that Jesus paid for that sin because he paid for our future sins as well right and that's

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why Paul says and acts you know all things are lawful for me but it's not that all things are

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things that are good for the spirit good for the soul good for glorifying God so it's not all things

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I ought to do and so I think as Christians we need to to understand that we are forgiven we're

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going to mess up we can't walk like we're messed up we have to walk like we are in spirit with christ

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because we are redeemed by christ and we want to get closer to him so we try not to do those things

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but not because he hasn't forgiven us but because that's not how we want to walk in relationship

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with him absolutely I think that's the biggest struggles that that christ has had the biggest

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struggle is what to do with this sin that I'm still committing and I remember I just God gave me

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this revelation that the reason we still struggle with it is because the only part of us that is

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100 redeemed is our spirit because that's why God can live inside our spirit our soul and our body

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have only been purchased so this I tell everybody too that you know that I can that you are going

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to still sin till Jesus comes or you go to heaven or whatever you can't stop that's why Jesus came

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he came and that's why the bible says what we do is we renew our minds to keep our minds just like

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Isaiah 26 3 said we keep our minds on Jesus what he did for us keep our minds off ourselves

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because every time we look at ourselves we will see something wrong and allow Jesus to do the work

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in us to work things out of us that need to be worked out like pulling weeds and to work more of

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himself into us that's all his work it's not our work and so you know that that's how we keep out

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of just keep our hands out of that keep our minds always focused on him that's how I like to see my

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role when I talk to other people about him it's my job to arrange the meeting but it's his job

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to have that conversation with you right it's his job to convict your heart not mine but I'm the one

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that needs to let you know that you can have that talk and how to talk to him and that anything is

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on the table to talk about yeah and we can pray that people have our good soil like their hearts

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are ready you know because we're always ready to plant that well most of us some of us are always

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ready to plant that seed and if we if it lands on that good soil that's what we want so it takes hold

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and God can do his work and what he does best that's why it's so important to hear him because if

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you are if you're saying something to somebody and the timing is off it's not in his timing you

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could actually hinder his work I mean of course he's gonna he's gonna work it all together for

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good even with our messes but why hinder his work right you know why there's been things that I've

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been wanting to say to people and it's like no no no you know he'll he'll I'm so go ahead for that

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that's one of my I think that's my biggest desire is to teach people how to hear from God because

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I get so many people that say I don't hear from him I don't know how to hear from him and um it's

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just because they they just accept every thought they receive as their own like I used to but once

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yeah once we start learning how to dissect these thoughts just like a sentence and not

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it's a way of just thought just come from you know doesn't line up with the word yeah doesn't

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line up with or it or even his his heart you know many things he says to me I don't see this in the

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word but I but I but when I read it that's why I when he starts speaking I have pen in hand because

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it means always right what I hear because I can look after and say oh that sounds like the heart

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of God right I'm glad you brought that up because you you know you have to check it against the word

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and not everything is in the word that you're going to come across so yeah you're correct

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knowing his heart which is is this thought that I'm having displaying the fruit of the spirit

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right is this is this thought love kind is this thought selfless is this thought something that

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would edify someone else right and if if you can say no to these things then you can say well then

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this probably isn't from God God wouldn't have me say something that would tear someone down you

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know while they need it because it's encouragement oh God has better ways I promise absolutely you

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know he has even when he's corrected me it has been so gentle I remember one time you know also

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I was upset about something that lots of times I just walked my dog and I talked to God and I just

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you know I'm just you know just ramble on to him and tell him what's upsetting me and all of a sudden

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this one day I'll never forget I heard him this is what I heard do you really have it so bad

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I mean it stopped me in my tracks I'm like no I don't you know and it just calmed my soul he has a

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way of calming that soul that gets out of you know it's the flesh that gets out of whack I just love

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it you know he's I remember even just everything that's going on in our country complaining one

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time same thing I'm walking my dog just complaining about this country this is what he said to me

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you have been blessed coming in and blessed going out and you will continue to be blessed

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coming in and blessed going out again calm my soul meaning no matter what is going on in this

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country in this world he is still on the throne and he is still going to bless his children

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and take care of us we have nothing to worry about. Do you have any tips that you want to

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share with the listeners about hearing better from God like I'm sure there's a few things they can do.

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This is what the biggest thing that was a game changer for me is I took a bible study I did a

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bible study in 2015 the book is called Four Keys to Hearing God's Voice by Mark Berkler and he has

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a ministry it's called a communion with God ministries you can find that you know google it

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you can either get the book from him or you can or I word the book on amazon that changed my life

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and then he takes I think it's Habakkuk 2 2 or something he takes it from the bible that God

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taught him you know it's two four keys is basically quiet yourself so this is what I do I come to my

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office in the morning and a lot of times since I get distracted by noise by sounds dogs barking

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lawns mowing I put in worship soaking worship music and you know with my earbud so that's it

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keeps me kind of focused and then I just I just quiet myself and I a lot of times well use your

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imagination where do you want to be with Jesus so I walk I'm always walking on the beach always

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I love that with him I sometimes I will be a little child sometimes I will be older each time

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it's a different vision and he's always we're just walking along the beach and I just start talking to

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him and again I always have my pen in hand and sometimes I ask him a question and sometimes

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even reading his word I'll be reading his word and like what is that and all of a sudden hear

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something and immediately so pay attention this is what he says spontaneous thoughts pay attention

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to those you know we we think analytically we reason this is what I'm gonna make for dinner

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this is what I need you know we think all of a sudden while you're doing those you know reasoning

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or you know you're thinking pay attention to all of a sudden boom this thought comes out of nowhere

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you know all of a sudden maybe maybe a girlfriend her name will come to her mind your mind well

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I've learned to pay attention to those because it takes practice pay attention to those spontaneous

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thoughts that come into your mind and like what Lord why did why did you just highlight my friend's

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name you want me to call her you'll be a pray for her you know you know he'll so I guess the biggest

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thing is the spontaneous thoughts pay attention to them because they come from the spiritual realm

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and yes they can come from the enemy so pay attention to them if those by me it was very

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simple James 3 17 is what I say is a good test a good test of if you're hearing from above

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it's it's like a wisdom from above it's don't have it with me right now the wisdom from above is first

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pure peaceable easy to be entreated whatever you're hearing spot those spontaneous thoughts

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if they're full of love and they're you know they calm you they're peaceful that's God but if any

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thought comes to you spontaneously like you know all of a sudden you're thinking of a friend and

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you're you know and not good thoughts about that friend are coming you can bet that's from the enemy

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he's trying to get you you know he's he's the accuser of the brethren he's trying to get you upset

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about about this you know this friend so you know pay attention to that and I've even taken I

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even do that too when I start getting an upset thought about a friend or something that troubled me

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I again I'll just start praying for them because that the devil will flee then because he doesn't

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want you praying for them you want you upset with them that's good I like that yeah that envisioning

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yourself walking with Jesus on the beach like you can't be there but what would you like it to be

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if it was everything was perfect oh my shelly I mean I'll share this this help I'm not going to

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remember every single word that'll have it in front of me this one morning this is how good he is

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this one morning the moment I closed my eyes to spend time with him the moment I saw this huge hand

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in front of me and he said something's troubling you give it to me and I know again in my eyes closed

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I saw myself reaching into my heart and putting this trouble on his hand in his hand and he took the

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he closed it and he threw that trouble into the ocean and all of a sudden I saw the hand again

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and he said this time it's a person give it to me and it was my sister so I took my sister out

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of my heart I put it in his hand this time he took his hand and he put it in his heart

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and he said the I thought you were saying he's gonna throw it through the ocean

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no no no he put it in his heart and he said I don't have the words in front of me but it was

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you know what I can remember is is he said how can you dance before me like a little child

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if you have troubles in your heart I mean you know he wants us free from all troubles that's why

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he says cast your care on him you know don't let your heart be troubled because you know was it John

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is it John 3 John 2 I think it is where it talks about a prospered soul right what's a prospered

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soul if your soul prospers so will you and your health and a prospered soul is a soul at peace

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he wants us calm and at peace he doesn't want us troubled about anything and you know I've even I

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started a journal I call it cast my care journal this is not a part of your this is something that's

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really troubling me it's something that is troubling me it's on my heart and they won't let you know

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it won't leave me alone and I so I put then I actually start I write it in there and say Lord

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this is troubling me and then I what that means to me is I've cast it to him and I'm not allowed to

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think about it anymore or worry about it anymore because now it's basically I'm putting it in his

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hands you know in my mind laying it down laying it down letting it go yeah and then once he answers

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when I take a red pen and I write what he did oh I love it that's good yeah letting go will help you

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a lot of people have a hard time they'll ask me how do you let go how do you stop worrying you know

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you do what you have to do when it comes back to your mind you say just say thank you Jesus for

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taking care of that thank you know it one time I was praying about something it was six months

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and this was years ago I mean this was probably 15 years ago I was still different you know a little

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less mature I guess it know God as well I said Lord I don't understand this I've been praying for six

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months ain't nothing happening what am I doing wrong am I praying wrong and this is what I heard

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start thanking me and that changed my prayer life I only ask him one time now and the next time it

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comes to my mind I just thank him for it thank you for being on it thank you for taking care of it

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that's how you let it go or listen go pick up the Bible listen to worship songs do what you have to

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do sit down and think of a good memory you know you know a good vacation or something just get

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your mind off of it because that's why I think miracles happen because when you let go you're

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saying I trust you God yeah if you continue to worry are you really trusting it yeah he shows up in

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that full surrender when you're when you're you got nothing left to lose sometimes that's when he can

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do his best work yeah I want to I want to go back to the story where God didn't throw your sister in

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the ocean but placed her in his heart like I've been just mulling over that for a little bit

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and you know that's so very him to do to take that person who he loves who you love but is a

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burden on you at the moment and replace that burden on himself because it is no burden for him

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it just really speaks to the fact that every single one of us that call him papa abba father

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that we are not a burden to him no not in the slightest whatever our care is whatever our

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worry is whether we have first world problems or third world problems God doesn't want us to suffer

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he doesn't want us to sit there disquieted he doesn't want our soul to be restless for anything

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and he wants us to come to him no matter how small or petty our problems are and you know as we get

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older and we get that wisdom we start being able to discern his voice a little easier we start being

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able to not have such petty requests of him and and he really I think that's just part of our

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journey of sanctification yeah you know you just reminded me because I said I didn't have the

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testimony in front of me I didn't remember everything but you just reminded me of something

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at the end of this testimony I said after I you know gave him those two things that were troubling

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me I said to him Lord I feel lighter and I really did my soul I felt lighter physically sounds like

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spot lighter and you know what I you know you know what he's this is what he said me you just

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reminded me he said I feel lighter too I said you feel lighter when I give you my troubles he said

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yes I do there's something there you know there's just there's something there about that when we

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give him you know our troubles his joy is found in our joy at the same time and so we're lighter of

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course he's lighter this is our our burdens don't bother him at all they're already cast away he

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doesn't waste time on them either he tossed them in the ocean nope yes he's so good hmm I just

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want to say that remind me of sponkna therapy it's this christian therapy and it had a totally spirit

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led and it's just phenomenal because sometimes what your subconscious mind it remembers everything

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from the womb to now and sometimes there's traumas that it hasn't gotten to work through and so they

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get trapped and until they're released they can stay stuck and lead to even physical ailments

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and when you work through that you totally feel lighter at the end of a session it's amazing

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yeah definitely just another what came to my mind what really changed what really helped me in my life

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to see that you know everything is you know his goodness everything is good is um not only

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roman's 828 but Psalm 7610 now Psalm 7610 I don't get it in any other version I don't understand it

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in any other version but the king james version because the rest that's where I guess where God

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taught it to me Psalm 7610 I'm gonna read it it says surely the wrath of man shall praise thee the

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remainder of wrath thou shalt restrain surely the wrath of man shall praise thee that means the evil

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the evil that he allows he doesn't cause the wrath of man he doesn't cause evil that's the that's

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from the enemy but if he allows it that evil will praise us it will be for our good and then it says

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the remainder of wrath thou shalt restrain so what he taught me is when I allow allow evil on your

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path I will only allow the part of the evil the enemy is sending your way that I can use for good

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the remainder of the of that wrath that evil I'm gonna restrain I'm not gonna allow it so it

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really taught me is when something is on our path we're obviously we're talking about you know

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troubles and evil and stuff that we don't like I heard once that some preacher said that the

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apostle Paul never prayed for anybody's trouble to go away he always prayed that they would endure

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it with a good attitude and so God taught me if something's on your path it is there for a reason

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so you know come to me right away and ask me how to respond because the sooner you get what I'm

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trying to get you to get you know the sooner that that will go away also sometimes it's there

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but was it he also taught me something about surrender and obedience he said you know that if

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you obey my voice inside of you instead of doing what you want to do that you can avoid nine out of

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ten trials because these trials and tribulations are often they're on our path to get us to see

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something about him about life to get us to move in a certain direction to get us to know more about

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him and we can really we have a lot of say so in that I guess I'm just I'm right in the midst of

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that I really see that because it wasn't that long ago he said to me how can I order your steps if

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you are ordering your steps and this was this was maybe a couple months ago and I thought I understand

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I really do I'm done I'm done ordering my steps and I literally it's rocked my world it's like

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I don't even exercise I used to he would this is what he said to me so you plan to exercise Monday

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Tuesday or Monday Wednesday and Friday and then when you don't what happens you get upset with

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yourself I don't want you upset with yourself you let me tell you when to exercise and when I tell

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you to do something I will along with my telling you you are ordering your steps will come a desire

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energy and time that is huge to me because it really has proven to be true every time

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he wants me to do something or even my time with him I'll see it a certain way and then

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something interrupts me or my husband wouldn't even you're a dog or whatever something and I get upset

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because I saw my time with him like this and he's taught me stop that if I want you to spend time

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with me I will create a desire a time just everything no disruptions it's like he he does it all

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you're just walking through the day you know doing your thing going to work making dinner and just

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always paying attention to that still small voice that is leading you and telling you what to do

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where to go it's a freedom that I've never I guess I'm just learning about

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it just like the Bible says lean on until your own understanding right you know all things

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acknowledge him all things and then he'll direct your past and that's what I'm seeing in my life

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right now and I'm loving this this is where I think it's complete freedom you think it is

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it you think oh you're not making a decision you know it's it's how you know how freeing it is I

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don't have to constantly decide because when I decide like I said when I decided and I don't do

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it just like it's supposed to be done or I don't do it I did upset with myself but when he decides

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you know it's like you know if I could say tonight I already I already said to him I already feel

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like that I'm supposed to walk 30 minutes tonight so I'm trusting that you're going to give me not

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only well I've got the desire and the time that you're going to give me the energy yeah because

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I've noticed I run my age I run out of energy a lot I don't have the energy that I had when I was young

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I definitely got more energy after I started exercising it's a little you want to get going

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then it'll get better yes oh actually I've always feel better it's the before what you

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like that's the hard part getting started well after you at the endorphins and the dopamine

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running you're like whoo-hoo done yeah that's the only real reason people like to run have you ever

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seen anyone running smiling like never it's only after they're done yes absolutely I'll be that 0.0

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for running anyway oh goodness I was watching one of your videos the other day what made

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me in the yesterday for all I know about when you do take those steps in obedience it's like an

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adventure you never know what you're gonna get but you know it's gonna be good because God is involved

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hmm it's like pastor Rick with his his wandering this and God says go left okay just goes left and

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there's an adventure every single time like there's no road here I didn't ask you if you saw a road

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all right he took a river one time to this meeting that he ended up going to and it was just a wild

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story he was camping and then he ended up at a grocery store and then he ended up invited to

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a prayer meeting by these people he ran into and and then at the prayer meeting out there there was

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probably healings and oh it's just like one thing led to another and then on his way back from that

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meeting he was led back through the woods in the dark by this blue glowing ball and it just led him

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back to the campsite it was a great story that's pastor Rick that's amazing I love that and see

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I you know I see there too is God knows the pastor Rick and he knows you know that he can do that

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with him and that he wouldn't like I say I'm thinking that if that was me that would probably freak me

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out yes 100 yes the most people are afraid that well God doesn't talk to me this way or he doesn't

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do this for me because he knows how to talk to you and you might think that you want that sign

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that billboard to be visible to you that has your name that pops up says you I need you to talk to

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me right now right it's not always something so bold and blatant as that it could be little things

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throughout the day that subconsciously you pick up like I keep picking up this number and then

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you open up your bible just to read something and and that chapter and verses that number you've

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been seeing and you're like I'll just read that and it pertains to you and you're like oh man I mean

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it's different for everybody and I don't think anybody should feel discouraged because they're

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not having this big booming voice I need you to move over here I'm like it you know and it's not

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that's not like that if God wanted to speak to us like that he wouldn't have whispered to Elijah he

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wouldn't have had countless parts where we are all discussing what God voice actually sounds like

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like he would be the same but it's not it's uniquely tailored to each and every one of us yes very true

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yeah because you're right sometimes you'll like I hear I hear what you just said about pastor rick

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I'd freak out because that's this you know that's just not me and I love how he you're right he takes

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all that just our past are you know how if we're introvert if we're an extrovert just anything

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and he works with that yes and even though of course he he changes us and you know he can make

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an introvert an extrovert but I love how he how he trains each one of us very uniquely I remember

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well eight years ago when I moved to Florida and I started teaching Bible study ladies Bible study

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in my church I would be very like I had an hour and a half boy I would practice at home and I every

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minute was accounted for right and I remember one time I only had an hour of material and I'm like

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oh my gosh Lord I don't have I need 30 more minutes of stuff and he's like nope trust me I said okay

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you know and he did this very slowly with me so after an hour all of a sudden he brought a lady's

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name to my mind in the Bible study she was kind of like my wingman I call her I said Chris you

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you know you must be up and she was prepared she she was prepared because she's not told her to

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you know prepare for 30 minutes and she got up and talked for the rest of 30 minutes and that's

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where it started to where now eight years later at any moment now anybody could say just start

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talking for an hour and I know that he would fill it all up but it took him very slowly to teach me

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to let my you know because I'm a very like I don't know I don't know what it is control I just let

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go of control and let just trust him that's funny he says show up and let me and isn't it in the

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Bible in the New Testament somewhere where he said you know you're gonna be brought before kings

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but don't worry that you know I'll tell you what to say yes you know I'm to the point where I don't

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I don't worry about any of that anymore and you know what and if he gives me nothing I'm just gonna

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say I haven't gotten on it so let's just chat I think it's funny that that you said that you know

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about losing control and I've mentioned this on another podcast that we really don't we never lose

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control ever not once have we ever lost control because we've never had it we've only ever lost

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our illusion of control and so we realize that we are never going to be in control surrendering

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control to the one who has nothing but the periods of intentions for us becomes a little bit easier

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yeah you're right you're right we think we do but we don't he just lets us he doesn't just have one

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incident one malady come up and watch how out of control your life really is have one bad thing

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happen have two flat tires just watch how out of control you are you're okay you think you're in

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control until something bad happens and then you realize who that you're nothing in control

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you're absolutely right you're absolutely right that's why I think he does he allows whatever he

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needs to allow in our life to get us to realize that too that's what it is I think I had that in

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my journal one time I I was just I've been saved 35 years and I was just thinking about the years

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and I thought you know Lord my whole journey with you really is about it was about letting go

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as soon as we let go about you know I let go my children let go about you know let go my my husband

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let go of my till all the way till you get down into your life just let it go and trust that he's

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got a good plan and like I love that verse I think it's second Samuel 22 23 where it says that God

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makes your way perfect and I always pray that thank you Lord for going ahead of me making my

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way perfect and just walking me through that perfect way and that's why again it's important

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that we we have to hear his voice because how can he comfort us how can he lead us encourage us

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warn us correct us if we don't hear his voice be a little hard it's like your parent telling you

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what to do giving you all the warnings and all the stuff and you're just like I don't need to hear

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any of it you know one morning when I was again I closed my eyes when I would picture and this

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only happened one time I was actually very little I was like this little two-year-old and I like what

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is that Lord he says because you have grown spiritually and you know spiritual maturity to

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him actually looks like you become more like a child a two-year-old doesn't worry about money

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it doesn't worry about the food comes from it doesn't worry about its clothes like a five-year-old

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I pictured myself before they can you know they know about money and they know more things but

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they often don't think about it but yeah you're at a two-year-old never thinks about it never

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thinks about it yeah and so he really said that to him that's you know there is there are two I

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think two sides to spiritual maturity one is dependence on him but also the other is an authority

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in him you know like a spiritual warrior you know you know we need to learn to become like a child

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but also know when we need to stand up and become you know take like like with these hurricanes

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you know recently these are you know God taught me that two years ago two years ago a hurricane

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was coming straight for Tampa Bay and this is where I live in this area and my husband said

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we're not leaving you know so all of a sudden I heard the Lord tell me walk around your neighborhood

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your community and you praise me and you command this hurricane it was heading straight straight

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for us like the line was heading straight for us you command this thing not to come near you

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your territory I said okay I even made a video I sent it to all my bible study ladies and um

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sure enough long story short that thing made a complete right turn in the Sarasota

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Sarasota does how do you say it's sestic sesticese area it's about I think two three hours south of us

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now and then I said Lord then I started like I started feeling bad because now it's hitting

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other people I didn't you know I don't want that either and so I talked to the God about it and he

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said I want you to pray for my children in that area to take authority over their area

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because I could not take I can pray for them but but he this is what I understand that I can't

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take authority over something that's not my territory and it's that authority like it's

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pretty for four hurricanes now the last two years that came was coming straight for Tampa Bay

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that nothing in my community was hit nothing there was this last one was flooding all around us

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you probably saw it on the news but my little community in Newport Richie nothing praise God

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nothing we didn't even lose I mean there was a couple trees I don't know if I sent that to you

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Shelly but they were like newly trees we had just planted a month ago they kind of unroof uprooted

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but nothing nothing that we lost and so that spiritual that spiritual well I've sent you

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some things on other people that have done that that is very true we you know so there's a

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you know a childlike faith but also a time when we have to stand up and take our authority

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and and tell the enemy no you are not touching what belongs you know to me

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I love that you brought that up because next week's episode is with Rhonda Wiley and she shares

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about how she was led to pray for her community and when this gas explosion made this house

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blow up so much it only left two walls of the foundation remaining that nobody was killed

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from it and the Hedge of Protection that she prayed for and there was it was amazing and then

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you just got a tune in next week and she's the one I sent your prayers to about that Hedge of

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Protection and commanding that authority over that storm because that the storm was a five and

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they predicted it to go to a six but it dissipated it was barely a one when it hit landfall so the

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power of our prayers and coming together it made a difference so I encourage everybody to pray and

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pray out loud because your words have power and God spoke the word into existence he spoke everything

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into an existence and if he is in you you have that authority as well so take heart and just

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get closer to God and let him speak to you you'd sit there with your journal and be prepared to

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hear him because then you can write it down and reflect and then he wants that closer relationship

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with you. Absolutely. Thank you so much for being with us Barbara I had a great time talking with

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you today and I'm so glad we got to know each other so far over this last couple months and

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oh yes it is just such a blessing and I pray others are blessed by this episode and if this has

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appreciated and do you have anything else before we go Barbara? No I thought this was wonderful

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I thank you very much for inviting me and I look forward to continuing our friendship.

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Ah same here and with that we'll talk to you next time. Just to be clear Rhonda's episode was already

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released so you can check it out it was released October 25th so be blessed and share it with a friend.

