1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,480 Welcome to the God's Goodness podcast where our mission is to encourage and highlight God's 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,760 goodness in modern-day miracles. We are your hosts, Josh and Shelley Hankins. Today we have 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:23,040 with us a special guest. He's back again for a second time. We have with us two-time world 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:29,480 champion Jeff Nugles, also three-time runner-up, and he's here back with another message from 5 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,280 the Holy Spirit, and he's going to open us up with an opening prayer, and you're going to be 6 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,240 blessed, and I just can't wait for the Holy Spirit to speak through him and us, and we just pray that 7 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,800 we're blessings. So with that, we'll have you open us up. All right, Lord, we just thank you and 8 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:49,000 praise you for another opportunity. We thank you, Lord, that we woke up this morning. We had breath 9 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,760 in our lungs, our feet were able to hit the floor to praise the name of Jesus. And Lord, I just thank 10 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,400 you for Josh and Shelley. I thank you that they opened up their home for this podcast. I thank you 11 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,640 for what you're doing with this podcast. And I pray, Lord, that you would bless them, my 12 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:09,720 late, bless this house. I pray a hedge of protection around this home and their son and Jesus' name. 13 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,480 And we thank you, Lord, for the opportunity once again to share the goodness of God. We just 14 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:21,240 thank you, Lord, because of what you've done on the cross, shedding the blood for the remission 15 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,200 of our sins. And we thank you, Lord, that it's by faith through your grace and mercy that we are 16 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:32,520 saved. So Lord, we just praise you once again and thank you for another opportunity to glorify 17 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:40,440 the name of Jesus. And we thank you in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you. All right. So I just 18 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:46,760 want to thank Josh and Shelley for once again having me on this podcast. And I praise the Lord 19 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:53,320 for that. And if you would happen to go back to the first segment, I talked about how the Lord 20 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:59,560 brought me from death to being a world champion in the sport of long drive, which is basically just 21 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:06,360 hitting the golf ball further than anybody else in your age division. And so God, I was always an 22 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:14,200 athlete and love sports, basketball, baseball, all those types of things. And God used my passion, 23 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:21,480 my desire, even at the age I'm at right now, I'll be 63 in April. But at the age of 60, 24 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:27,240 I just got back into this sport after he healed my body and who becomes a professional athlete, 25 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:32,520 you know, at 59, 60 years old, but only a person that God's going to use for his glory. 26 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:39,320 So I thank the Lord that he is using me for his glory. He's opened up many doors, many avenues, 27 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:45,800 even since the last podcast, which I'm going to share in a moment, that how he is just opening 28 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:52,040 the doors that weren't open before. But because of what he's done through me and the healing process 29 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:58,920 of my body, just to recap from the first segment, you know, having diverticulitis, going septic, 30 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:05,400 the surgeons tell my wife and former pastor that I was given one hour to live. And they, of course, 31 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:11,160 took how to take all my organs on. And I was on a table for like nine hours. And they had to 32 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:17,000 climb up and put me back in. I spent a total of 22 days in the hospital. I had to have a colostomy 33 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,200 bag, but God reversed that. Praise the Lord for that. You know, it's always one thing about the 34 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:27,560 Lord, you know, it's not how many times you fail, but it's to get back up. You know, it says in 1st 35 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:33,960 John 1 9, if we confess our sins, that he's faithful and just to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 36 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:39,240 So no matter how many times you fall, God is there to pick you up. And it's just like, you know, 37 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,520 the surgeon said, he said, when I had the colostomy bag, he says, we will be able to do reversal. 38 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:52,040 So when you hear the word reversal, it just really just kind of gives you a hope knowing that, you 39 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,840 know, you can make it through no matter what. And I remember he told me I would have to go six months. 40 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:03,320 And that was the longest six months because I knew that I was, you know, how you're anxious for 41 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:08,440 something. And you know that something's about to come, you know, just like your dog. When you come 42 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,000 home from work and he's there and he's wagging his tail and he's anxious and he's happy because 43 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:19,320 you're there, you just thank God that, you know, that he's using an animal because sometimes, you 44 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,680 know, I'll come home from work and my wife's not sitting there, you know, hey, I'm all excited 45 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,640 that you're here, you know, he's home, he's home, you know, but with a dog, you know, God just uses 46 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:35,160 pets or whatever to let you know that there is a love, there is an expectation, there is a hope 47 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:40,440 out there. And so when I was going with that colostomy bag, I knew exactly how many times I'd 48 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,000 have to take it off my body, cleanse it, put it back on. And it's something like the process of 49 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:50,680 what God does with us, you know, he takes the dirty mess, he takes the sin, he takes all those things 50 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:56,680 and he cleans you up, you know. And so I thank God that I knew that when the six months was up, 51 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,160 that I was going to go back and a surgeon was going to be able to reverse and take that thing 52 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:08,360 off of my body. And so I just thank God that he was able to do that. So no matter who you are out 53 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:14,280 there, many times you might have fell or you might have fallen, know that God is there to pick you up, 54 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:19,960 he's there to cleanse you, and he's there with the precious blood of Jesus to wipe away all your sins, 55 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:26,760 you're made new and made whole. And I thank God that my body is back to being whole and my broken 56 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:33,080 back is healed. And like I said, God has taken all the healing that I needed to have my body in 57 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,880 order to become a professional athlete at the age of 59 years old. So I thank God for that. 58 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:44,280 Would you say that faith, a part of that you would know, a tangible way of knowing that you had faith 59 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,280 would be your trusting God, believing God's promise in the getting up, right? 60 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:56,520 Yeah, yes. I mean, if it wasn't for faith, I'll tell you what, there was a time in a hospital, 61 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,840 I'm gonna be honest, because your flesh is always like, and the enemy's always trying to put a 62 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:05,720 thought in your head, you're not gonna be what you once were, you're not gonna be this athlete. 63 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,040 And I can remember I was in the hospital, I was so sick because I had that poison in my body, 64 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:16,680 and from being septic, and I was so sick. The nurse come in, I said, I even told her, I said, 65 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,400 look, just start pulling the plugs out, I don't even want to be here anymore. Then I remember, 66 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,200 they sent a lady down, some spiritual lady, and she was there, she was trying to talk to me about, 67 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,400 you know, everything's gonna be okay, just don't worry about it. But it was funny, I seen how lost 68 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:37,480 she was in her wording and not speaking about God, not speaking about Jesus, just trying to give me 69 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,880 a little pat on the back, it's gonna be okay. All of a sudden, the Spirit of God was in me, 70 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,520 because he said, he'd never leave you, nor forsake you. The Spirit of God just started 71 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:53,080 to rise in me, I started witnessing back to her, and then God was just using me to let her know 72 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:59,000 that, yes, there is a God in that, but I wasn't feeling good at the time, but my faith had started 73 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:05,480 to rise up, you know, and I just... See, my God's got this. He does, he did, and he did have it, 74 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,600 you know, even when the green gunk was coming out of my body and in the tubes, and you could see 75 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,800 in the container behind my bed, all the poison that was coming out, you know, and think about all 76 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:23,400 the sin that was in the world, but just one drop from Jesus took away the sin, you know, and like 77 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:30,760 you talked about Josh with the faith, if it wasn't for that inner faith, the Holy Spirit rising up, 78 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,760 you know, I don't think I could have made it. I don't know how people can make it in this day, 79 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,680 you know, without the Holy Spirit or God or having that hope, you know. 80 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,160 Well, they can't make it today without him, but God says that he blesses the righteous and 81 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:50,200 the unrighteous, right, and that's why we see people that don't have faith prosper, and we're 82 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,760 like, well, that's not fair, you know, I'm suffering and I love you, and because that's not for you, 83 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,320 that's not your message, that's not your struggle, that's not your testament, right. This is happens 84 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,680 for a reason. Exactly. You gotta remember, there's one of my favorite gospel songs is, 85 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,720 he's an on-time God. It was sung by Dottie Peoples, and one of the lines in that is, 86 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:16,120 he may not come when you want him, but he'll be there right on time, and that's how it is. We just 87 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:21,800 have to surrender ourselves and trust in God, and by faith, you'll see things happen, you know. 88 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:27,960 When you allow him, that's when he starts working, you know. One of the funniest things you could say, 89 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:34,360 saying I heard one time was, if you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans, you know. And, 90 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,400 you know, us being men, Josh, we're always like trying to fix it, we're trying to find a way to 91 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:45,320 make it work, but, you know, we want to always tackle the issue, and instead of just trusting in 92 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:51,320 God, you know, and let him take care of that situation. But I thank God that, you know, he, 93 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:57,880 like I said, he's been open indoors, and I was able to, two weeks ago, one of the major 94 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,480 convenience store chains, I'll just say, I'll give him a little commercial here, Sheets Corporation, 95 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:10,200 they asked me to come out and to do an exhibition, and I've never done one this big, you know. I'll 96 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:15,080 have people from church or whatever come and say, What's in an exhibition? They wanted me to come, 97 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:21,880 and because of me being a world, two-time world champion, they wanted me to come out and show 98 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:29,720 these men at this big golf fighting, the gifts, hitting a ball far, and talk about it. So here, 99 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:35,400 I had to do two sessions, one was 7.30 in the morning, which they didn't have a driving range 100 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:41,400 at this golf course, so trying to get a 62-year-old body warmed up at 7.30 in the morning, that takes 101 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:49,400 a lot of faith, you know, and a lot of trust. So I took my Flintstone vitamins and my Geratol, 102 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,960 because I'm young at heart, so the Flintstones are for that, and the Geratol is for the rest of 103 00:09:53,960 --> 00:10:02,120 the body. But anyhow, I swung a little bit, and it turned out there was 120 men at the first session. 104 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:08,120 So they got to hear about my testimony, which I've shared, you know, with all the things that were 105 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:14,120 wrong with my body, but I said about all the things that God healed my body from, and the men 106 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:19,640 were amazed with that, you know, having a colostomy bag, four broken ribs, double hernia surgery, 107 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:27,000 broken back, and then I, you know, all that, and they were like, who's this guy? Why is he standing? 108 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,600 Why is there a giant poster of him, two world champion with a big belt, you know, world champion, 109 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:38,680 and they just couldn't believe it? And so I talked to him, and before I even could even hit a golf 110 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:45,560 ball, they were clapping, and you got 120 men that are just there to golf, and you know, basically 111 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:52,840 smoke cigars and drink beer, but God used me for that opportunity, and they were just really, 112 00:10:53,480 --> 00:11:00,600 just paralyzed in a moment of me speaking and talking about God's goodness. So when I finally 113 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,720 got done talking, they clapped. I didn't hit a golf ball yet. I'm here to show them how to hit a 114 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:12,120 golf ball far, you know, and so they clapped, and it was basically the spirit of the Lord working, 115 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,680 because I was nervous, and my wife was praying for me to fell that I went out there with, 116 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:21,400 he was also praying for me at the time. You didn't look nervous. Huh? You didn't look nervous. I 117 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:27,000 was, I was, oh yeah, well, I was nervous about hitting the golf ball, but the talking part, 118 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,880 did you fail or did you crush it? Oh, well, I, well, we'll do that in the third episode. I'll let 119 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:38,840 you know what it, no. He failed. No, when it was fighting, one of the fears of a golfer in front 120 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:44,200 of everybody is to top the ball off the tee. Okay. Is that where you just like smack the top of it 121 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,840 and it just rolls off? Yeah, that's like, it doesn't even make it to the ladies tee, you know. 122 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,440 Like if you miss, that doesn't count as a stroke, but if you hit the ball in any way, does that count 123 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,840 as a stroke? Well, if you're making a tent to hit the golf ball, it's a stroke, whether you hit it 124 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:02,520 or not. Oh, geez. Yeah. So anyhow, I got done talking and I told them, I said, this is how we do 125 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:08,120 it. They give us six balls, they give us two minutes, it's six balls, and it has to be in a grid. 126 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:13,000 It's outside the grid, it doesn't count. So anyhow, when I get done talking, I said, okay, 127 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:19,800 gentlemen, I says, I need you to pray for me. There's 120 men, they heard my thing. I don't know 128 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:26,840 who's saved there, who's not saved there. So they laughed. Or we just got saved there. You don't know. 129 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:32,120 Right, exactly. Right. Because I'm going to share in a moment what happened with some of that. But 130 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:37,640 so they laughed at that. And I says, you know, pray that I don't top this first one off the thing. 131 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:43,480 So anyhow, I hit the first one and I hit it really good down on the left side. And to make a long 132 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:51,480 story short, I hit four out of six of the balls. The hole was actually 353 yards. Now, remind you, 133 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:58,200 I'm 62 years old. It's 730, well, about the quarter to eight in the morning. And I hit it just 20 134 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,560 yards short of the green with a couple of the balls. So God got all the glory that. And here are some 135 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:10,280 of the other videos that the gentleman that took that I would when I was speaking and hitting, 136 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:15,720 you could hear them talking and they're like, oh, I wish I could hit like that one of 62 years old. 137 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,600 I can't even do it now, you know, and they're like, amazing. Look at the launch angle of 138 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:26,200 six degree driver. And he's hitting the ball so high. I mean, God was just all in that. And like 139 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:31,480 he just said, she had sent Shelley some of the couple of videos and she said, we didn't look 140 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:38,840 nervous. I was, I'm more nervous now than I was in front of all the men, you know. But I, it's 141 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:45,640 got to be me. I wasn't there. Right. I apologize. If Josh and Shelley had been there, I don't think 142 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:51,480 I could hit a golf ball. I'd have just been so nervous, you know, but anyhow, so God got the 143 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:57,320 glory in the first session there. And then I went on at 1230. I had hit another in front of another 144 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:04,200 100 and 125 men. And I did the same thing. And then I actually even hit better in the second 145 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:10,200 session. Of course, I was warmed up and I hit five out of six right down the middle and which is 146 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:15,400 really believing in the sport. I even mentioned in the sport, a long drive, there's a lot, a lot of 147 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,960 men that go for six in a rounds, you know, they don't even get one in because they're swinging 148 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:25,560 as hard as they can. But God has blessed me that I have a swing. I don't swing all the way back 149 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:31,560 because of actually I pitched in college. So my golf right handed, but I throw left handed. So 150 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:38,520 I'm limited with how far back I can do my back swing. So I work on the power zone at the bottom. 151 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:44,680 And anyhow, they're amazed at how far I could hit the ball just, you know, with the swing that I 152 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:51,480 have. But with that short swing, you take out of a lot of air and, you know, too far back, the wrist 153 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,800 and all those types of things. I know I'm talking golf stuff now, but anyhow, hopefully. Sounds to make 154 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:03,080 sense. Yeah. So anyhow. I think it's interesting that God used you based off of an infirmity, 155 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,120 right? So you were injured playing a different sport, so it limited how you could play golf. 156 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:15,880 And he used it to maximum efficacy, right? He used it to his potential, not yours. 157 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:21,560 And like you could not have done it without have gone through a trial before that was completely 158 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,600 unrelated, that you could never have guessed would have come out of it. Exactly. Exactly. Right. 159 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,000 God worked with, here's one thing you gotta learn about God. You can't put him in a box and God's 160 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:37,560 not limited. So he'll take whatever you think is limited and he'll make it unlimited. My golf swing 161 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:43,400 is very limited, but the power that he taught me how to have everything, the power at the bottom 162 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:50,200 and everything working at the bottom of my swing, the smash factor, the launch angle to spend all 163 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:56,120 those types of things that goes into this. There's a lot of, it's not just hitting a ball far, but 164 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:02,600 learning how to hit a ball far. It's just like when you first get saved, you're excited and you 165 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,920 just want everybody to get saved, but you really don't know scriptures and all that yet, right? 166 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:12,600 Well, it's just like somebody just trying to hit a golf ball and hitting it far. They'll have no idea 167 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,560 what they're doing yet, but they're excited they could hit a golf ball. It might go far, but it's 168 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:23,160 in somebody's house or it's in a woods. Yeah, can they do it again correctly? Exactly. Can you do 169 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,960 that same shot again? Or you might top it off the tee and flub it completely. Right, exactly. Which 170 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:33,160 which many new Christians also do. Right. And understand this, I've topped many off the tee, 171 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,720 but I'm going to tell you right now, ever since I've come back, I started back when I think it was 172 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:43,480 15 or 16 years old after all my entries in that, I've not topped one off the tee because God gave 173 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:49,960 me a way that my swing in that, that it's not all erratic, it's not all over the place. And 174 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:56,920 you can still get that spiritually too. You know, God, He said He directs our pathways. So if you're 175 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:03,080 going over here, over there trying to search this out and, and you know, maybe I go to this church 176 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,800 over here because of this or I'll go to this church over here and you're wandering all around, 177 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,520 but God will tell you, this is where I want you to be. This is where you're going to learn. This 178 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:18,040 is where you're going to grow. And it's the same thing I had with my golf swing. I was limited, 179 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:23,720 but God made the swing unlimited. You know, there's professional long drivers, they swing 180 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,920 and their swings all the way back behind their head almost the club almost touches the ground. 181 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,960 I even told them, I said, look, one of the big names, I won't say his name, but they knew who 182 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,520 I was talking about. I says, I don't swing like that gentleman. He's like 28 years old. He's the 183 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:44,440 number one for his age. I says, I don't swing like him. I said, if I tried to swing like him, 184 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:49,240 I'm 62 years old. If I tried to swing like him, I said, there'd be a spleen over there, 185 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:54,760 there'd be a kidney over there. My spine would be back there somewhere. I said, God, Jesus me for 186 00:17:54,760 --> 00:18:01,800 the capacity that of the 62 year old body that he's getting the best he can get out of 62 year old 187 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:09,000 body. Now, yes, I train, I work out, I do all that. And just like, you know, when you first become 188 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:15,880 saved and a newborn and a Lord, you just don't go out and start evangelizing and your dictions are 189 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,520 all broken, all those types of things. You've got to study the Word of God. You've got to listen to 190 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,320 the Word of God. You got to get around the fellowship of believers because there's like my wife always 191 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:30,520 says, there's no lone star Christians out there. The Bible says, don't forsake the assembly of the 192 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:37,880 brethren. And it also says iron sharpens iron. I learned how to hit a ball far because I'd watch 193 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:44,840 other videos of people that were the best. And I took what they were using and I use it for the 194 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:51,160 capacity that God has given me for my abilities. So same thing. If you want to learn how to walk in 195 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,360 a spirit and ways of the Lord, you know, listen to some of the great creatures and teachers and 196 00:18:56,360 --> 00:19:01,480 that type of thing, but also, but you got to learn it for yourself. You got to read the Word of God. 197 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:07,800 I could watch videos of somebody hitting a golf ball all day long, but that's not going to teach 198 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:14,360 me unless I practice, you know. So thank God for what he's doing. And like I said, he opened that 199 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:19,480 door that opportunity. He's also opened up some doors for some preaching opportunities. That's 200 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:25,080 the number one thing, you know, golf and using me for a capacity of the sport thing is fine, but 201 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:31,240 I was asked twice, preach at a church. My wife was asked to sing there also. So he's opened up that 202 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:38,120 door. Matter of fact, we preached at a church two weeks ago. And I was also the emcee, the master 203 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:44,040 ceremonies. I had double duty that day at the church. But you know, the pastor called me and says, 204 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,920 is that fine? Somebody canceled out. I said, wherever you need me, you know, whatever you need. 205 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,480 We're, you know, we're just here to be servants of the Lord. The only thing I wish that, you know, 206 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:58,040 my parents, especially my dad, could have said they love to watch me play sports. And unfortunately, 207 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:04,200 they went home with the Lord, you know, who knows if, but someday they'll be able to share what God 208 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,240 has done in my life, you know, we'll be able to all meet up in heaven and what a day that will be, 209 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:16,280 you know, I can't I'm looking forward to that. And I do. I thank Shelly and you, Josh, for this 210 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:21,240 opportunity once again. And I thank God for my wife, you know, she's sitting over to the right 211 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,640 here smiling. She's passing me notes and little love notes with the hearts on them, you know, 212 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:32,840 and I thank God for that. She's an amazing woman of God. And if you have an opportunity, listen 213 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:39,400 to her podcast again, what and just know that God can work through any marriage. We tease one time, 214 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,160 says, you know, we have our disagreements. We call them, you know, intense fellowships. 215 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,440 I love that. I actually use that phrase today and make sure everyone know they got it from the 216 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:53,160 Newkals. Yeah, that's the intense fellowshiping. We've had our intense fellowships. But do you 217 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,200 know what? After 30 years, it's funny in the beginning, there was a lot of intense fellowships 218 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:03,880 because we live in an apartment getting used to it. Yeah, well, yeah, you know, I just, well, 219 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:09,000 I got wife here on the right side now. So I don't hear everything as clearly as I used to. 220 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,960 But I remember we first got married and we live in an apartment and there's a scripture in the 221 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,720 Bible that's on it. This isn't my wife. I'm just saying there's a scripture in the Bible says, 222 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,680 if you're in a room with a cataclysm, what good will misses go up onto the rooftop, you know, 223 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:28,040 so we'd have a rooftop apartment. But God gave me wisdom. I work construction. And so I 224 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:33,800 just put earplugs in my ears. And we would, you know, she'd go back in an apartment. I couldn't 225 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:40,040 hear anymore because you got none of the enemy will use, you know, words and words hurt, you know, 226 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:45,960 so and they got me wisdom with that. And we would separate for half hour or whatever. But the spirit 227 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:52,680 of God was able to work on both of us. And then next thing you know, half hour, 45 minutes later, 228 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:59,160 we'd apologize, we hug and kiss, all that to say that was all in the beginning. But I'll tell you 229 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:05,400 what, the intense fellowships, they've really faded off big time, especially my wife is so into 230 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:11,640 the word now, listens to a lot and a great preacher's reads a lot more. She's had such a change in 231 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:17,640 her life. I mean, I, I admire her that, you know, with the way she reads and ability she's carrying 232 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:25,160 herself now. And I just pray that God keeps using me that way also and keeps us still in the word 233 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:31,400 and me and that I could testify the great things that he's continuously doing in my life and, 234 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:36,360 in my wife's life. You know, the enemy does try to break up marriages. He tries to shatter it. 235 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:41,240 And I've shared before how married couples exponentially more powerful than a single person. 236 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,280 Right. But then I had heard something a while ago. I don't know where I heard it from. So forgive me. 237 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:52,280 But it was that Jesus sent people out two by twos everywhere, not just to the towns, but like, 238 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:57,880 hey, go go to this town and get this donkey for me, like everything. Get this room for me. He sent 239 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,280 everyone two by twos except one time. And that was Judas when he sent him to betray him. He said, 240 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,120 go do what you have to do. Right. This is the only time he didn't do it when he was being betrayed. 241 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:11,080 So there is an importance of having multiple people when you evangelize, when you're in marriage, 242 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,400 when you're doing other things, because you need someone in your closet, you need someone, 243 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,560 your prayer closet, that's what I mean. You need someone in your corner. You need someone that is 244 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,360 willing to intercede and pray for you. You need someone to literally roll up their sleeves and 245 00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:29,480 help you fight the spiritual battle at your side. And there's no better person that God is playing 246 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,360 for this than your spouse. That's right. That's right. Because the Bible says we're one consent 247 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:40,840 of thousand of flight, two consent, 10,000 of flight. So the prayers of the husband and wife 248 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:47,000 together is just, you know, they just, they don't just hit the ceiling. They reach heaven. 249 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,960 That's why the word of God also says we're two or three are gathered in his name, 250 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:57,960 you know, that he's in the midst. So I thank God he's in the midst right now. And, and once again, 251 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:03,560 I want to thank Shelly and, and Josh here for having me come back and just share a little bit 252 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:09,560 about, you know, what God's still continuously. And I just pray that you guys just continuously 253 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:15,400 get blessed. I know the Lord's favors on both of your lives and your son's life and even the three 254 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,200 dogs up there that were howling away. I think I was the whole way guess. They might, who knows, 255 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,200 they might have been on their, their hind legs with their paws up in the air, praising the Lord, 256 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:29,160 you know. Well, our middle dog does, she'll lay on her back or her side and she'll put her front 257 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:35,000 feet together and she'll just move her hands like she's praying and she'll even tuck her, her nose 258 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:41,240 into her hands or folded hands. It is so adorable to watch her do it. She's so sweet. And she'll, 259 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,040 and you can interrupt her like, are you praying and she'll just look at you and then she'll just 260 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:51,640 keep going. Perfect. And so I know that's not, you know, I mean, I don't know that, but I'm assuming 261 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,400 it's not really what it looks like it is, but it's still as cute and it reminds us that God is 262 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,920 present, that God has given us everything, right, from our dogs to the shirt on our backs, to our 263 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:06,840 spouse, to this equipment that we have right here. Like none of this has been done that God did not 264 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:14,360 provide, right? None of it. And I'm just so humbled to have the presence of a long drive champion in 265 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:19,800 our house today that I can call him friend, right? To this woman that said he fell in love with because 266 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,880 he saw her worshiping. And when I first came to that church, I saw her worshiping and I knew there 267 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,720 was something worthy of love in her, right? And so it's such an amazing dynamic that you guys are 268 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,600 together that you have faced the hardships that you have faced by being a biracial couple, right? 269 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:41,080 That can't be easy on either side. And it should be. There shouldn't be a problem. There shouldn't 270 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,560 be an issue with it. And I'm sorry that you guys had to deal with certain things your whole life. 271 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:51,320 But I really believe that as a couple, it has only made you stronger, only made you more powerful and 272 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:57,800 the Lord only made you more resilient to the enemy. And I just really admire both of you for what you 273 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:03,240 do, not just your golfing and not just your evangelizing, but in every activity you do, 274 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:09,640 you do together and you do it for the Lord. Amen. That's right. Yes, we do. We just love the Lord. 275 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:16,200 And it's like being a biracial couple, it's people want to hear our story. You know, we're, 276 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:22,520 I mean, so God uses, you know, anybody or anything and he uses us just, they didn't want to hear our 277 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:29,560 story or want to hear our background. And like I said, golf is just a small part of what God can 278 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,680 use anybody for, you know, use that for my like, but I just want to encourage anybody out there to 279 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:41,160 know that you have a gift. Every one of us has a gift. And when you get saved, God wants to use 280 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:47,960 whatever you have for his glory. And when you turn it over to him, you'll see not only does God get 281 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,320 glorified, but you'll start to get blessings. I'm not talking monetary things that can happen, 282 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:59,480 but I'm talking about real quick, I'm telling you to power God, my car was having troubles. It's 283 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,760 timing chain and it was going to be over $2,000 to get it fixed. This was about a year ago. 284 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:12,200 And, you know, we didn't have the money, but we have faith. And I'm just going to say this real 285 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:18,360 quickly. So our pastor at church, he said, he's trying to find a mechanic in this and that for 286 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:25,400 us reasonable to get the timing chain fixed in our car. And I just jokingly said, hey pastor, 287 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:31,640 why don't you just lay hands on the hood of this car and tell Commandess Engine to work, you know. 288 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:37,080 And this is Pastor Rick who has been on with us. This is Pastor Pete. Oh, Pete. Okay. Yeah. Pastor 289 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,200 Rick would do it too, but he totally did this before it was somebody else's car. Oh, really? Yeah. 290 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:48,520 Okay. Well, Pastor Pete did this one. He just put both his hands on the hood of my car. And because 291 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,640 what happens when I would start the car, it would rattle really bad for like 30 seconds. I mean, 292 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,280 and I took it to the mechanic says, yeah, your timing chain's gone. So anyhow, 293 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,720 Pastor Pete, he went and laid hands on the hood of my car right in the church. And he says, I come 294 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:09,640 in his vehicle to start working, right? In Jesus' name. It's all he did. Simple prayer. And he walked 295 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:17,240 away, you know, and this was over a year ago. Well, the noise rattling went away. And I still 296 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,600 not had to have to put a timing chain on that runs perfect. So I mean, people might think, 297 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:28,040 oh, I'm telling you, there's, there's many, many stories. God, that's what we say. We can't limit 298 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,280 God. You know, he's still alive. He's still sitting on the throne. And he thrives in our 299 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:38,920 desperation, right? Because this is where we meet him the most. And that car was a lifeline for you. 300 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,960 Right. And so he met you where you where you needed him most in your desperation. 301 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,960 He thrives and living in that area for us, because that's the area we mostly go to him, 302 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:56,920 which is sad, right? We surrender mostly in our in our frailty. And I think it would benefit us 303 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:03,560 if we also remembered him mostly in our times of abundance. Right? Like, hey, I woke up this 304 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,040 morning next to this beautiful woman, my kids still asleep. I can stretch, you know, like, 305 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:14,360 there's no hurry. I can just smell in the air and, and just enjoy what you've done for me. And, 306 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,240 and that's where we need to start our day. And it doesn't mean he's not there for us. It's a learning 307 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:27,880 process as we go through. But as we get older and wiser, as some people whose table are, you learn 308 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,360 things with that wisdom. You learn what fights thought to have. You learn how to pray. You learn 309 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:38,200 how good God is in the morning and how good God is in the evening and everywhere in between. And 310 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,920 it's something that you can have the attitude of gratitude. They say, you know, the Christianese, 311 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,040 where we really come to him with a Thanksgiving heart and he really appreciates our presence with 312 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,160 him. Right? We forget that God wants to spend eternity with us. Right? It's not just we want 313 00:29:53,160 --> 00:30:00,120 to be with Jesus. He, like, he made us for him, for eternity. Like, when he made you in your 314 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,320 mother's womb, he said, this is for life. This is for keeps. This is for eternity. I want you. 315 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,680 That's why I put you there. Right. And if everybody on earth came to that realization, 316 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:17,000 there would be a lot more people converting and being disciples without a doubt. Absolutely. 317 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:23,640 Absolutely. Amen. I could hear the pastor coming through when you're making a sermon out of everyday 318 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:31,080 things. Yeah. Oh, me? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's just that's how God works. You know, well, 319 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:36,600 you look at Jesus, he did all the, he did parables, you know, so they would understand. And I mean, 320 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:43,880 I've done so many different types of sermons. And, you know, I had one that was called on fire, 321 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:49,400 in a fire and fired up. It was about the life of David, you know, he was on fire when he was young. 322 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:56,120 He slayed, you know, the Goliath with the stone. And then he got one thing you don't want to do is 323 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,360 get complacent. And he got a little complacent. And he looked at his kingdom and he saw, oh, 324 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,800 you look at this vast kingdom I have. And, you know, and he had with Bathsheba the fall. So he 325 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,320 was back in a fire, you know, and then of course, Nathan, a prophet come along and he basically 326 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,840 said, David, you're the man that David realized the things that he was doing. And he repented of it. 327 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:24,040 And then all of a sudden, now you got David who's back on fire again, you know, so, and he repented. 328 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,680 And then what did God say about David? After all the things he'd done, it was a murder, a liar, 329 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:34,520 a adulterer, a betrayer, God told him, don't take the census. He took the census. He did all those 330 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:41,000 things. But when he got it right, you know, he saw 15 ones says, he says, cleanse me with Hissa, 331 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:48,040 create within me a pure heart. So David who started on fire, he went into the fire. But God, 332 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,360 when you're in a fire, you understand, you're in a process, you're in a refining, you know, 333 00:31:52,360 --> 00:32:00,280 the drought comes up and God scrapes that off. And he makes you brand new. And then David realized 334 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:06,040 that he was back on fire for God, he repented of it. And what did God later on say? He said, 335 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:13,160 he's a man after my own heart. You know, and I just thank God, I just want to be a man after God's 336 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,760 own heart. Love that you mentioned the refiner's fire and the shuffling off of the impurities. 337 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,280 Do you know when the silver Smith knew when he was done with refining it, when he could see his 338 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:30,040 reflection in it? Wow. And that's the importance of that. You can see the reflection, whose reflection 339 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,800 is David having? God's. That's why he was a man after his own heart again. Wow. That's awesome. 340 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,800 Thank you so much for being with us. And you guys have to come on an episode together and talk about 341 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,840 what the Holy Spirit tells you, because you got a lot of stories to pull from. Oh, yeah. Yeah, 342 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:54,600 we're good back and forth. Yeah. We've had some a back and forth. We're pretty good at it, you know. 343 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,960 That'll be fun. I love my wife. She's sitting there on the right. She's laughing right now at me, 344 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:08,280 but I thank God for her. She's my soulmate. I believe it. We've been through a lot, and I said 345 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:14,520 we've been married for 30 years now. And it's not only through the grace and God that we're still 346 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,320 here. We've got a roof over our head. We've got food on the table, and we've got a card at the 347 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:25,800 timing chain's been healed. So we've prayed the Lord for that. And we've got three grandkids. We've 348 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:32,200 had two dogs, cats, canaries, birds, all those types of things. But I thank God. Now it's just me 349 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:40,040 and the wife and the Holy Ghost. Goals. We ask that this episode has blessed you, that you share it 350 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:46,360 with a friend. And if you feel led by the Holy Spirit to donate, we have links in the about 351 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:52,920 section because these episodes cost money because I do not. It does not bring me joy to edit these. 352 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:59,320 So it helps us keep going. And your support means a lot to us. So we also love the prayers. 353 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:15,800 Mm hmm. That's my favorite part. I'll take them all day long. And with that, we'll talk to you next time.