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Welcome to the God's Goodness podcast, where our mission is to encourage and highlight God's

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Goodness and modern-day miracles. We are your hosts, Josh and Shelley Hankins. Today we have

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with us a special guest. We have Danielle Bounce with us. She and I got to know one another,

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our pizza in the park, and I was talking with her and Tiffany Dawson. Some of you may have listened

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to her episode, a heavenly message, if you haven't checked it out. But Danielle was talking and she

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and Tiffany had so much in common. And listening to her story of the last few years, it's evident

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that God was working in her life. And I was like, ah, we got to share this because it illustrates

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God's goodness in her life. And that's our mission. So with that, we'll have Danielle open us with an

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opening prayer. Father God, we adore you and praise you. We give you our hearts, our mouths, our minds,

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that anything that we say or do has a positive effect on anybody else that encourages them to

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let them know that the God that we serve is alive. He is not dead. He's reachable, touchable, lovable.

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He gives you a great big hug when you need it. In Jesus' name, I pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you so much.

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Thank you for being with us and for the prayer. And where would you like to start it?

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I don't even know where it would start. Five years ago, I was mowing the lawn and I went to go for some

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breeze and I stopped in the middle of it and I went to go in the house and my husband was right

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behind me and I looked at him as all stars. And so I went back into the house and had him and my

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daughter pretty much carry me. I ended up vomiting on myself. So since it's a learning lesson also

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that if you are a woman or a man and you become short of breath and see stars and vomit go to

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the hospital, I had a heart attack and didn't know it. I felt fine 15 minutes later, went back

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outside and mowed the lawn. A week later, I was working as a nurse in a pediatric office. When

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we had to go to another office for a meeting, I went to go grab my lunch and I went to go sit down

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and at the time I was diabetic and I started to see stars again. Ended up on the floor. They all

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thought it was my diabetes or shoving all these carbohydrates in me. I was like, okay, stop. This

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isn't what it is. I'll be fine. I'm just tired. It went away 15 minutes later. I had my co-worker

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take my car and drive it back. She ended up getting to work on time, but I walked slow. I was very

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heavy set, 330 pounds. And as I was walking in, I went to collapse and my head nurse on the floor

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was like, yeah, no, something's not right. I'm like, just give me a minute. I'll be fine. And she's

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like, no, something's not right. Called my husband. We went to a hospital. They're like, you're fine.

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Now there's something wrong. While we did an EKG, we did all this stuff. Your heart's fine. They

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went to send me home. And he goes, the only thing is you have is your heart murmur. And I looked at

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him and it was like, I don't have a heart. He goes, just you do. I'm like, no, I don't. He's like, yeah,

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you do. And I'm like, no, I don't. So they sent me to a bigger hospital down in Mainpitsburg. And

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they did a bunch of tests. And they found out that I have, you're supposed to have four aortic valves.

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I was born with three. Evidently, it's supposed to be passed down from generation to generation.

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When they checked, one had completely closed with stenosis. One started to close. And the other

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one was showing signs. They didn't let me leave the hospital. They're like, I don't know how you're

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walking. I don't know how you're talking. And I don't know how you're laughing. Because, you know,

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when you laugh, you tend to get your stuff all up more. Laughing can actually help heal the body.

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Yes. It's the way the Lord is also our strength. So that's why you see people laughing all the time.

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Anywho, they started to run all these tests. They wanted to open heart surgery on me. And I'm like,

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okay, I looked at my husband. And then another time I will tell you why he looked at me and couldn't

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believe we were going through something else. But anyways, they did run these tests. They do a

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panorama of your face to make sure you have no infections or loose teeth, because they have to

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stop your heart. They put you in a heart bypass. They have to put all kind of tubing in you. And

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they did a panorama and found out on my right side of the jaw was infected. I didn't feel anything.

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I was like, okay, and he goes, you have a UTI. So the heart doctor stopped and he sat down on the

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floor in the room. And he was like, I don't understand how you could be sitting there talking

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with all this going on. It goes, if I didn't look on these test results, I would say you're

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perfectly fine. I said, I am, he goes, no, you're not. And I'm like, okay. So to make a very long

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story short, 30 days later of being in the hospital, I had open heart surgery. I came out fine to have

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a beautiful scar to prove it. One day when it's still not tender, because it's still tender to

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this day, I will have something that God gives me to remind me that he saved me from this,

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because I should not be standing here. We go home, I start to heal up, I start to get back to

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driving. And I made my husband dinner, went in to go in my bed and for something. And I passed out,

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and woke up with my right arm, not being able to move that well and tingles. I couldn't find my

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husband. You start to panic, even though this is what I do for a living. And I go to get in my car

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to drive. I don't know, wasn't getting oxygen to the brain. I was having a stroke. Wow. The medicine

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that they give you for your heart and everything was not regulating right in my body. And I had to

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go to the hospital to deal with the stroke. As they checked me for the stroke, they diagnosed me

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with MS also. Go home, try to reprogram my brain like, okay, this makes sense. All the stuff that

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was I was doing, dropping things, tripping over my own feet, just the weirdest things that you

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tell the doctors and they go, okay, you're heavy said, you're diabetic. They look at me like I'm

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nuts. And I'm like, there is a reason. Okay. And then I start crying. And then I don't know if you,

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how music wise you are. I don't know what to call it. But there is a song. And it's very old. And

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it's very gospel. Southern is somebody prayed for me. They got down on my knees. And they go

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through people like your mom. God, in high school, I was in a lot of trouble. Bless me with a spiritual

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mom, because my mom was not able to do what she needed to do for me. And as soon as I graduated,

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high school, I moved in with her. And it taught me what a family was. It taught me who God was. It

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taught me how I should be praying and what you should be doing. But what happens when you leave

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the nests and you fall away from the things that you do and you don't go to church and you don't

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read your word, you tend to distance yourself. And I feel that because my mother prayed for me,

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not the only reason, but because he has taken me and has flipped me and turned me in this tornado

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of a spiritual whirlwind to bring me back to where I was and to tell other people that he still is

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here. He still heals. He still hears you. He hasn't gone anywhere. He will never leave you nor forsake

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you. He will stand by you. But you have to reach out and let him in. If you keep up a wall and you

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block and you're like, I'll see you in a minute. I have to get right first. Are you like Jesus in

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the front room, the sitting room? It's like, no, you go to church to learn all these things and to

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get food for thought and feed your spirit. And my thing is, even when I wasn't going to church and

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doing what I was, my music still kept my spirit in there because I wouldn't listen to anything else

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except Kirk Franklin and some of the older gospel that I found out, Juanita Bynum and all these

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people that you start listening, it gets in your spirit. You don't realize that the stuff that is

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around you makes a difference in your spirit, whether you know what's going on or you're just

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surrounding yourself. Like you put yourself in a room with all these people that are doing all

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this other kind of stuff and speaking anything but God, partying, doing everything, that starts to

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seep, you're starting to get their spirits with your spirits and it doesn't mix. And so my kids

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will tell you that their memory of me when they hear Kirk Franklin is Saturday mornings, I would

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put on Kirk Franklin and dance while you clean. Old fashioned, my grandmother made me clean when

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I was on Saturdays. We always had on music and that's what I did. And after I got out and I didn't

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want to watch TV at the hospital, I would have all this stuff going on. I would still listen to my

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music while I ended up having another stroke. And the doctor looked at me and he was like,

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something's got to change. And I'm like, I agree with you. Where do we go? And he goes, I can't

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tell you. I don't know where to go. So I prayed. And I ended up a couple years later, deciding to

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get the gastric bypass. I needed to lose the weight. I needed to reverse the damage that I did to my

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body and my spirit. We damage our own cells sometimes. And so I wanted to get the gastric

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bypass. They had a little trouble doing it. I went home, no, everything was fine. I had a hard time

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walking, didn't think anything of it. I had no energy, you still don't think anything of it. I was

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sleeping a lot, still didn't think anything of it because you're healing. My doctor called me,

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she goes, you never want to go get your blood work. I don't feel like leaving the house. She goes,

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that's not you. Go get your blood work. Go to get my blood work. My hemoglobin was not there.

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They're like, you need to go to the hospital now. And I'm like, I'm not going to because you either

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go or I call 911 and I'm going to send somebody there or I'm coming myself. And I'm like, fine,

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whatever, I'll go. So I go and at first they do a little blood work and I call you here,

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these nurses coming in and these pints of blood going up. I need blood transfusions. I needed

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like three of them. I think they ended up giving me. So they kept me overnight to do this, to make

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sure I was okay, to make sure everything was getting leveled off and I would have to go get

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more blood work like I used to do every week. And I'm like, okay, my husband's like, you ready to

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go home? I'm like, man, am I ever? And he's starting laughing. And nurses came in and I got my clothes

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on never left the bed, just was able to get my clothes on and my pants on and he helped me put

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on my shoes for me because I still couldn't bend right. He's like, you okay, my gas, I put my two

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feet on the ground and go to lift up off the bed and just face planted completely. And I was like,

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oh, that hurt. I'm like, that really hurts. And he goes, what, you know, what's going on? I'm like,

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I have no clue. And he goes, get up and I, my legs were like, jello. It's like, I didn't even have

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legs. So all these guys came to pick me up. I just had the gastric back class. I've lost maybe 15

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pounds at that. And they couldn't be had a hard time lifting me up. And when they did, they lifted

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me up. I'm like, okay, I could feel my feet. I can feel the touch of the ground. I went flat back

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again, right on the floor. Put me back in bed and my husband looked to me goes, I guess you're not

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leaving. I said, hmm, I guess not. All these doctors come in and you know, something like that

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happens, the one blames the other one and so forth and so forth. And I found like my neurologist

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and he goes, that's not MS. And he walks out and comes back in and goes, no, that's your MS. And I'm

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like, okay, what do we do about it? And he was like, you just got away till it ends. We got to put

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you on steroids. Okay, put me on steroids. I ended up being in the hospital for a total of

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four months, three months. And then a nursing home for another three learning how to walk again.

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Physical rehab, which was not fun. You know, I just in your you don't realize when you're not

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able to walk and how much you don't use your legs, how much muscle and how fast it can go.

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Not only that, but I wasn't drinking as much. I was eating. I was just doing protein shakes. And

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they say, yeah, that's good for you. Your muscles still need to move and the blood that pumped

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through them. And so I gave them more time at first. And then I was only able to walk maybe 30

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steps. And I would feel myself wobble and go backwards. So my mother had come up, my spiritual

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mother had come up to be with me and to encourage me into pray over me. And of course, she came up

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with a prayer blanket that is still on my headboard, right where I can touch it and feel it and have

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it with me. Not because of her per se, because the anointing that they had prayed over that blanket,

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it touched me. It really I don't even know the proper words to say, but there was something there,

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the Holy Spirit, you know, just ended up really touching me. So every morning I would wake up

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and I'd be like, okay, what do you do? I'm in the hospital. I don't have a Bible with me.

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But heck, we got cell phones now. It's not the old days. I can look up scriptures. What do you do

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when you look up scriptures? People start popping up, you know, like Jesse DeClanus, love, recommend,

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completely illicit to. He's a funny guy. And all these people start popping up broad,

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parsley, you know, I'm in Priscilla. I really think that TD Jakes and his daughter, and I started

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listening to the stuff and then I started putting music back on. And I'm like, okay, God, please

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forgive me. I know you're there and I don't know why I keep putting you to the side. So let's start

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again. Let's put my faith where it should belong. Let's start feeding myself the Word of God. You

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know, whether I'm reading it, or I'm listening to it, or I'm watching it, that's all I did. My best

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friend came, she would come play games with me. She would pray with me. She brought me plants.

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They help. They really do. And slowly, I started to get back. For a while, I couldn't hold even

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my cell phone. I couldn't, my hands would jerk, they wouldn't work right. I couldn't talk right.

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Stereoids were messing you up, taking my sugar sky high. And I'm like, no, I'm not accepting this.

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And I start praying the Word of God over and over and over. And when I didn't

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and couldn't pray and didn't know what to pray, I just start talking. I was like, okay, God,

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this is me. Help me. Take me where I need to go. Help me do the things I need to do. And as I did

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that and lowered me and let him fill me up, the more I was able to do. And during the time I was in

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the nursing home learning that I found out I hadn't had any contact with my biological mother in

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three, four years, drug addict. She just, I don't know, it wasn't a good relationship. She just lost

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her way. But anyways, I found out and the Holy Spirit made me look up her name, what's she doing,

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you know, with she online, I blocked her on Facebook and everything. My kids did so nobody saw.

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And I found her death certificate online. And I found out that the year before,

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on my birthday, she passed away. And down I went, I'm like, you know, I start getting mad,

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start getting angry. And then I look outside and there was a deer there. And it was eating.

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And then there was another deer. And then there was a butterfly. And then there was a chipmunk.

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And he says in the word, who were you? I feed all these things and make all these things

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alive. Who are you to say anything different? Who were you to talk to yourself like? He like put me

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in my place. You're not allowed to do that. He's a real good at that. Slop in the face. He's like,

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you don't talk to her that way. You don't be like that to her. You did what you had to do. There was

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a reason why you did it. Whether it be right or wrong, it's overdone in the past. Why we decide

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to turn around and look to see? I have not the inkling why we do that. We don't like what's in

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the past. We don't like the taste of it, the smell of it. The feel of it. It shows us how far we've

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come though. Is that there is the blessing in that part. Right. But there's also danger in it. And

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that's what Lot's wife found out. Because she was looking back on the security that she knew,

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the familiarity of what she had. I don't think she was looking back and thinking, man, I really

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am missing that sinful city. But she was looking back, missing the life she was living and a

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scared to move on to the life that God had prepared for her. And I think that's the issue that Lot's

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wife faced in that one. And it is good. I think it's good to measure when you feel that you're

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stopped, when you feel that you're stagnant, when you feel that you're just come up to a wall to

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look back to where you started. Right. Because that is a wonderful place to gauge that your walk is

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walking. That you are moving, that you're making progress, that you're not just at a standstill.

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When you look back and you don't even recognize a person behind you, that is a good place to me.

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Ever said that so right. It's funny. The nursing home I was at was the same one my husband's

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mother was at. So I knew some of the staff and some of the staff saw my name and would come up

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and they're like, are you Ruth's daughter? Is it daughter-in-law? I don't want to use to come in

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with her and pray with her. I had forgotten all about that. She was a different faith than I was,

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but it was still a Christian faith. It may not have been, I don't believe in politics and religion.

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That's why I like being non-denominational. I hate the politics. We agree too. We think it's silly.

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It is really silly and that's what you have, the Protestants and the Catholics and the Lutherans

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and Methods mixed my head spin. To me, it's in order for any specific religious organization

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to claim that they are greater in the eyes of God. When John and his brother were arguing about who

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was going to sit at the right hand of Jesus and they're bringing the tip like, who's going to be

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right here? Is it me or him? Who's going to be left to be right? He's like, one of you idiots,

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even understand what this means. Of course, he was kinder about it than my brief synopsis there.

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Jesus, I don't believe ever. He might have. He used fool a few times and he called Peter Satan

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at one point. We call him to get behind him when he's being silly. It's important for us to realize

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that in order for us to move forward, we have to acknowledge that these different religious things

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are valid as long as they hold Jesus as the focal point. As long as they hold the truth about Jesus,

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the core of the gospel, that we are sinners and need of a Savior. God provided that Savior through

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his son Jesus and through his life, we have an example through his death, we have life and through

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his rebirth, we have the Holy Spirit to guide us then on. I don't care what other background you have,

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as long as you believe in that. The rest of it is arguing about what part of the body of Christ

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you are. That is the silliest thing over the eyes of Christ, over the mouth of Christ, over the,

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like, I could be the sweat gland of Christ. Let's do this. Like, I want to help in any way I can,

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right? Like, so you saved me, Jesus. And for me to give you anything less than my life means that

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I didn't really appreciate what you saved. Like, this is yours. And if you want me to be the hangnail

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of the body of Christ, to give people like, oh, that's uncomfortable, and pay attention to what

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you want to say, then I'll do that. If you want me to be the feet and walk over, I'll be happy to

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do that too. Whatever you want me to do, I'd like to think that I'm happy for it. But, you know, we

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all, some of us, we were like, oh, Jesus, I don't know about that. Maybe you don't know me as well as you think you do.

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Which is like the silly conversations. I think we all go through that. Absolutely. It's the silliest

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thing in the world. Like, not only did I make you, but I know what tomorrow is for you and you don't.

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So when I'm asking you to do this, you should do it instead of hurt you. That's it. That's definitely

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it. I was blessed enough not only to have, we'll go back to that song to a praying mother. But I had a

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husband that just stuck there. He was there every single day after work. And then went home, went to

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bed, went to work, came back again. He drove all the way into Pittsburgh when I was in the hospital

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every day. Didn't miss a day. Maybe once or twice I got the grass. He never left my side.

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And that gives a person strength too. So when I came back home and got my life together and by

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the way, I walked out of that nursing home. They only come and get you once a day for 20 minutes,

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a half hour. I would wheel myself down there and I would say, are you busy in there? Can I

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use the weights? Can I do this? Can I do that? Because even though he was healing me, I still

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had to do my part. I can't just say, go ahead. Well, that's a lie. I could, but that doesn't give you

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the strength that you need to carry from dead today. You don't have a testimony unless you go through

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a test and you're going to always go through a test. So you have a testimony. You have to grow.

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Even in life, you have to grow. Stagnant water stinks. It attracts blood-sucking mosquitoes.

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You have to grow. Stay a baby in Christ. You'll be treated like a baby in Christ.

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I'm just wondering why you're not growing or doing things or like this. I would have never

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expected her to say that to me and normally I would have looked at her and go, no, wrong one.

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I don't think I gave myself three seconds to even think about it. It was like the Holy Spirit

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was like, yes. Then I looked at myself in like retrospect, like, really? As much as I can talk

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like you and everything, it's, I shy away from it. I don't know. That's the part of me in my brain

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getting into my thoughts in my head rather than letting him shine through like this.

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Yeah. And yet here you are. Yeah, here I am.

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Here you are letting him shine through that you in your discomfort chose to go through with what

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you feel in your heart. He asked you to do what Shelley feels in her heart. He asked her to ask

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you to do. Right? And so both of you listened to the Father and now we're here today because of it.

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Right? On her other half. So whatever she does, I'm vested. Right? Your husband the same way. Clearly.

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Clearly. So God doesn't have to tell me to get somebody on the podcast. I mean, he can.

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I welcome it, but I don't shy away from anybody that she is felt prompted like,

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okay, this that's who's next in or hate. That's that's it. And she started the podcast because

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she's a better listener. Right? And God knows me. He knows what he's playing with. He made me.

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Of course, he knows what he's doing. And so he knew he was going to have this person for me. So

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he said, I'm going to have you do this, but I want to use her to get you off your butt.

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That's what he did. That's true. My husband had PTSD from church.

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Ex-wife and him went to church and he sat on the board and they would argue, fight somebody,

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yell at another person because they weren't breaking their Bible. And then they were using

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the church Bible. It's just silly stuff. And he was like, I don't want any a part of that. And I'm

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like, okay, well, her other grandmother was taken her to church and she was having a fit. She didn't

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like it. There's nothing wrong with that church. It was just a prop wasn't a proper fit for her.

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She would come here with me when we started to come and she would be crying when I first dropped

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her off. And I said, I am upstairs. I will be right back. And all of a sudden, Pastor Pete came

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in and he learned her name, told her how pretty she was, gave her a hug, met my husband, introduced

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himself, learned Jim's name, Miss Eileen did the same thing. And then all of a sudden, this amazing

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flowerpot came where all the broken dirt and roots I had everywhere is now being planted.

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We all have different roots at different places. And, you know, you can either let it grow wild and

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out of hand. And then they can wither and die because it's not in the right environment.

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Or all of a sudden when you're obedient, it may take a little bit. But it starts to break off that

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old dirt and starts to get those roots grounded. And it takes a little bit for plants to be grounded.

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Some of them, you know, the roots may wither and die away, but those are the ones you don't want

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anyways. That's the stuff you don't want. And then I started teaching her the scripture I taught

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my kids, God is not giving you a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and the best of yet, sound mind.

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And I can't tell you how many times a day that I repeat that scripture to myself because in

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synopsis, that's everything we need. You know, and then you start bringing little scriptures in

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like the joy of the Lord is my strength. Well, what brings you joy? What do you like doing?

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You know, that's glorified God. Joy of the Lord, not the joy of Danielle.

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That's very important because you can get lost in the joy of Danielle.

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Oh, oh, without a doubt. And there's people that have joined the Lord to the gifts that

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He's given them to the point where they start distancing themselves and they start taking

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the joy in themselves and pride in the gift that God has given them instead of using it

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the way they're supposed to. Because we are created spiritually. We are created perfectly,

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and we chose imperfection, right? We chose to not heed the words of the Father because we thought

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He was holding something from us. We thought somehow this being that never lied to us,

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that gave us the wisdom of Himself because He walked with us in the garden every night,

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that we chose to believe that He was hiding something from us and we could be just as

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good as equals Him when we were as equals to Him when He created us. Like, He was like,

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this is what I want for you. And somehow, we're sent to Him. People, we still do it today, right?

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The Old Testament, we see the story of how the Hebrews would fail and then it would be punished

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in some way for 40 years and then God would rescue them and then they would have a period of so long

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before they'd fail and then they would have 40 years of punishment and it was a cycle. But I

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look at this as like just a macro version of our lives, right? Because I'll do something and I'll

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feel bad about it and then I'll realize that God loves me. He's forgiven me through the blood of

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Jesus and then I'll feel good about myself and Him and I will be walking in perfect step and then

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I'll do something stupid again. And I feel like I am the nation of Israel, all in one as a person.

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And this is why the Bible is a living word to me because I follow suit with the Israeli people,

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with the Hebrews at the time, all perfectly. And His goodness is not based on mine, thankfully.

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His goodness is not based on my faith. His goodness is not based on my ability to care for

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another person. He is not limited by me. He's not limited by you. He's not limited by any of us.

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And I praise God for God that isn't limited by my imagination. And He's given me a really good one.

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Me and you both. But I feel like you're right that I don't normally like open up to strangers. I had

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just literally met her in Tiffany. Oh yeah, she's real strange too. I don't know why you would have

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done that. I thought, hey, you married her. I didn't say I was exiled carnival. So the red flags are

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fit for him, you know. I'm kidding. She knows you don't red flag. She's a wonderful person.

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Well, you like amusement. I do. I do. I do. I do like amusement. I don't get a lot from her though.

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She's very strict. She's hard on me. That's a good thing. I mean, I feel safe at home.

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But I think, yeah, he, I just went through the five years that just literally took everything

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that I had built around me to feel safe, but it was so, so wrong and stripped it away from me.

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Why? Just for me. I mean, I am that special. But it's not just for me. It's anybody out there

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that's struggling with their minds. Because your mind, you got to renew your mind every day, every

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minute you get a chance. That's why music is really good for me. It keeps my mind where it

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should be. You're not wondering like a fool. It's just so hard. If you can't see what's happening

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and knowing why it's happening. When you're in it, it's like, what is going on? Well, there's,

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there's definitely a purpose to it. I remember a few years back, it could be longer than a few years,

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but there was a pastor by the name of Marcus Rogers. And I don't even know if he was a pastor

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at the time he made this or he was in a way of building a church, but he had a YouTube video

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and he had a trash bag and he said, the enemy is always trying to get in. And wherever there's a

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hole that posts on the crash bag, and he would just, he would like, he would exploit that hole and he

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would pick tear big chunks out of it and trash would fall out and God is trying to mend these

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holes so the enemy doesn't have a foothold. But we are the ones that poke the holes in a bag to give

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the enemy license to tear open a bigger wound that we're hemorrhaging from all this garbage in

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our life that is spilling into other people's lives. And I don't know if he phrased exactly this,

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how I'm paraphrasing it, but it's, he's worth the watch if you ever run into Marcus Rogers,

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he's a good cat. Jesus clearly loves him and has an anointing on him. And so you mentioned that you

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had MS, you had valve issues, you had three fourths of your valves were intact, but not working even

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well. And you had a number of other complications. Where are you not now in that? Like, do you still

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have MS? Oh, I still have MS. It's a remission. Every once in a while, the devil comes knocking.

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I'm not too long ago, I fell out of bed. I went to get up to go use the restroom and one foot

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want the one way and the other foot went under the bed. When in the hospital, because I thought I

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broke my ankle. 24 hours later, my ankle was fine. My knee was swollen and hurt and I couldn't walk.

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I had to get my walker back out. We had to buy a $50,000 cars because I have a scooter in the back

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of my car and I have a walker. And I talked to him about taking that stuff out and I ended up

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on the floor in the bedroom and I'm like, okay, discernment here, which one is this? Is it keep

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it in there because God wants you to make sure you're safe or the devil playing tricks with you?

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You've got to pray and you've got to fast and you've got to figure it out. But Pastor had a

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ceremony with renewing our vows and we went up for that. And I had my walker because at the

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two nights prior, I was just in a hospital and Pastor Pete looked at me and I explained and

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he was like, are you going to be there? And I'm like, I'm going to be there. And he was like, okay.

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And we went and all three of our daughters, which was another miracle who had been fighting,

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all showed up together and talked with each other and was just walls were being broken down.

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And I refused to take my 10 year vows walking with a walker, refused it. I set the walker aside

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and prayed as I walked up to the front of the church, but did it. And cute little granddaughter

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came up afterwards and she was like, Mimi, what are you doing? And brought my walker to me. I was

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like, God, I'm loving it. Five years old. She's amazing. She's just has a, just a sweet and genuine

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heart and her and Pastor Pete have a just acutus relationship. She'll come up from

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children's church and she'll spot them and he'll spot her and he's like, come on, baby.

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And she flies to him and he lifts her up. It's like that dirty dancing move, you know, when they

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lift up. I'm like, he takes her on a church and everything. I'm like, okay, I'll just sit here

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and wait. But I want that. You know, seeing that I want that. Unfortunately, my girls didn't get that

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and get that kind of relationship. I took them out of this church and sell back when I was trying to

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get it, not single parent type situation. So I cover all bases, like being a single parent,

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having health issues. My MS tries to act up. I can't go on steroids anymore. They

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cause cataracts. On this past month, I've had to cataract surgery to remove them.

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I still have my heart and then I'm sure you might hear a tick, tick, tick door in this whole thing.

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I still have my heart. I go for my checkups and everything. But I thank God and my girls don't

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have it. She's the next one to be tested. It's they had to wait for her to get a certain age.

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So for them not to have it is praise God and then both got checked for MS because they're 24 and 25.

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Almost like it ended a generational curse. That's where I was just getting to. That is so important.

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See why she keeps her year round. That it's so important. And it's so important. If you don't

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know what to say to God, like we talked earlier, I'm not much of an open prayer. It's when all my

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heart went on my mind and I'm done for that second. If I need to talk to him, he's there two minutes

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later for people to be encouraged and know that there is a God. There is a God that loves you,

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that wants you, that will provide for you, that will heal you, will do anything he can for you

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as long as you're yourself to him. Right. That's literally the requirement. He doesn't want you

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to kill anybody. He doesn't want to save anybody. He doesn't want you to donate to the orphanages

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or the widows. He quite literally just wants your heart and everything else that's good and loving

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flows from the heart that he is now occupying. That is tremendous. And I couldn't agree any more

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from that statement. That is perfect. If I can get through these past five years, let alone

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the other stuff that has happened in my life, anybody can. Anybody can. I've had an

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acritizing fasciitis. Oh, yes, not good. That it was really not good. I should have died that

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five operations in 10 days. She doesn't know this stuff. I'm an EMT, so I understood a lot of

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terminology you're using. And so what happens later is I'll break it down to where, unless it's

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something really pertinent for that, I'll break it down now. Well, necrotizing fasciitis is a flesh

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eating bacteria. And so my private parts from sweating and working in a garden and stuff,

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the follicle got inflamed and infected and started to eat my flesh away. And I am the type of person

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and you'd probably know what I mean is working in a medical field. I'll be fine. I want to

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sysgrowing or a boil or, oh, I have a little bit of a fever. I'll just take some Tylenol,

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not a big deal. Go to work. And if he explains why you didn't go to the hospital when you had your

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heart attack, you explained a lot. And I knew better. I knew better. I did. Looking back, I was like,

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you fool. What is wrong with you? I hear nurses and doctors make the worst patients. Yes. Yes,

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because we put everything off or, well, as the doctor or nurse that we know, nurse practitioner,

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to write a prescription for us, check us out real quick. I told them what I happened at work and I

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came back and told them about my valve and they were like, okay. I said, I also got diagnosed with

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MS and Dr. Wendy Bechtine said, I knew it because I would stumble, fall, or you'd see me walking and

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tilt to the wall. Did you see anybody hand him money like they had a bet going on?

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Not in front of me. They might have, but not in front of me. No. I am on disability though.

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So I think it's to one, get closer to God, to be able to do stuff like this and

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relearn who I am and him and be able to help people like my daughters. My daughter became

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a single mother. So we help with Paisley and we take her a couple of days of the week,

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especially on Sundays because she gets mad if we don't end up keeping her three, four days.

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We've had her for over a week this summer because we've been doing things every day.

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Tomorrow we're going to Kennywood. So first time at Kennywood for her. And my heart's good enough

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to go on the roller coasters. Well, but I want people to know it doesn't matter where they are at,

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what religion, because God didn't create religions, man created religion. God wants that

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relationship. That's, it's a relationship and he'll do anything to get your attention, even walk

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off silently and not say a word. Let you hit rock bottom. And a famous pastor, and I don't know his

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name, said sometimes you had to hit the bottom just to look up. But guess what? You're looking up.

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Well, he's the rock at the bottom. He's also the walls and he's the ceiling and

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everything. Pretty much everything you need him to be. Everything else. Again, I hate to revert

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back to songs, but there's an old song again that for anybody that's out there, that there is a man

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that took his son and his grandson fishing and they started to drown. The little boy started to drown

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and he threw the rope out to him and started to wheel him in with the rope. But the rope

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started to break and he said, I got chills, don't know my arms. Just reach beyond the break and

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just hold on. A change is coming. That's what we need to do. Just reach beyond that little break.

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Hold on. There's a change coming. You're looking up. You're going to get saved by him.

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Keep yourself worded in him. Also keeps things away from you.

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Yes, indeed.

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Thank you so much for coming on and sharing this part of your story with us, Danielle.

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I hope the listeners heard the message the Holy Spirit wanted them to hear because there was a lot

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of nuggets and that's when this episode and so I hope they got it. We ask that at this episode

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