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Welcome to the God's Goodness podcast where our mission is to encourage and highlight God's

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Goodness and modern-day miracles. We are your hosts, Josh and Shelley Higgins. Today we have

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with us a special guest Sue Rackavan and she was introduced by a close friend in Christ and her

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friend was telling me a little bit about her story and then I connected with Sue and she told me a

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little bit about it and I'm like, oh, this is God showing up over and over. So we're going to have

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her share her story with you and we are going to see where God showed up. So with that we'll have you

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open us up with an opening prayer. Lord, I just ask you to bless this time together, put the words in

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my mouth and tell the story that you want to be told, Lord God. I thank you for your peace and your joy

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in these times. In the name of Jesus, amen. Amen. So where would you like to start, Sue?

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My life in general, I like to live life aggressively. I have been known to jump out of perfectly good

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airplanes. I don't have much fear of anything other than disappointing others, some of you have that,

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but as far as sports, very aggressive sports, jump out of airplanes, that kind of thing,

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I learned how to ski downhill at the age of 42 because that was my first opportunity. It wasn't

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because I was afraid to do it. It's my first opportunity and I took it. So I like to do fun

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things. Like I said, my biggest fear is really if I have a fear, it's disappointing someone else. It

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has nothing to do with being active. So what I learned in this process is that we always have hope.

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Whenever you do something by accident or not that you intended to do, God can always turn it around

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and give you hope and keep going forward. On to my testimony. On Friday, August 17th of 2012,

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seven days into a nine day vacation, my son and his friend and I went to Jetski's.

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The first Jetski was a two person Jetski and then the second Jetski was just for one person.

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The only thing I remember that day is going to rent the Jetski's. I remember taking the test

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for safety, chuckle, and then I remember signing the papers and I remember walking down to the dock

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and seeing the Jetski's. I have no recollection of ever being on the Jetski's. However, I'm told,

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a lot of this story is what I'm told because I don't remember it was a head injury, but I'll

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be very clear on what I do remember. But I'm told that I was on the first Jetski for about an hour

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on the back of the Jetski with my son's friend and my son was on the solitary Jetski, hooping it

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up, having a good time because he's the one that later you'll find I jumped out of a perfectly

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good airplane with. So we like to live life that way. And so after that hour, we switched and I got

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on the back of my son's Jetski. What I'm told from my son is that he had intentionally thrown me off

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two more times. And knowing me, I would have been like, woohoo, what a ride and just really enjoyed

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it or dared him to try to turn me off again because that's just my personality. So when I was riding

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on the back of his Jetski, he threw me off for the third time. The way the spray was coming up the

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back of the Jetski, the rider behind us was too close to see me fall off. He was not aware that

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I fell. So when I fell off, I went under the water, came up, and that's where the first thing that

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happened that allowed me to live through this ordeal. When I came up, I must have heard the Jetski

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coming at me and I turned towards the Jetski. When I turned towards the Jetski, it hit me in the

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shoulder and then came up over my head when I was looking at the Jetski. So I have two scars right

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on the corner above my eyebrow here going up into my head. That's where the Jetski hit me. Had I not

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turned towards the noise, it would have come up over my shoulder and went over the top of my head,

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potentially a lot more tragic situation than what it was.

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The softer bone plates. Yes. The second life saver is that my son's friend at the last moment

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saw me and that's when he turned to Jetski sideways and it came in sideways instead of again running

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up over the back of my head. So those are two very momentary things and decisions that were made

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that ended up coming to the best solution in my story. When I came up the next time out of the

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water, I was face down in the water. My ski vest was keeping me buoyant but my face was down in

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the water. My son was off of his Jetski, ran up, pulled my head up and he said, Mom, your face was

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dead. You didn't have much color, you weren't breathing and I could tell your neck was broken.

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So I can only imagine what that might have looked like. So that's when the third thing

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comes into play and this is when you never know what God has planned for you in your life and

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how you're going to use it later in life. About five years before my accident, my son graduated

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from high school said he wanted to be a welder and I said, okay, you can be a welder and I know

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you already know how to weld but I want you to have credentials behind your name. So I sent him

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to community college and became a welder. When there he heard about this really cool thing called

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underwater welding and of course we lived life aggressively and he would choose as an occupation

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the most dangerous occupation on the planet, construction under the water. So off he goes to

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school. I spent roughly $20,000 on his education. He came home, used that occupation or that profession

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for less than a year. For the next four years as I think some other parents might do, I was a little

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ticked off that I had spent all that money on an education and he wasn't doing it.

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I got over being upset about that $20,000 investment when he used what he learned in

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that education to save my life. So in that education he learned how to resuscitate in the water,

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how to swim a body ashore for a distance. He knew my neck was broken. What he did was pull me up on

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his chest, stabilize my neck between his chin and his shoulder and started the backstroke

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to shore. During that swim I would vomit. He would lay over sideways, let me vomit over him

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into the water, put me back down and keep stroking. When we got to shore is when his friend on the

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other jet ski went off for help. Once he knew we were on the shore. We're in a war here. I believe

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Satan wanted me dead. Jesus Christ did not. All of the things that already take in place to give me

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the best opportunity to live. Jim and his friend and I had attended church together, my son his

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entire life, but with this other young man for about 20 years. So we were all pretty solid in

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our faith. When his friend came back he said he had told the water police where we were.

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They did not come right with him for whatever reason. When my son had me up on shore he saw the

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water police go by two times looking for us. So that just says to me there were distractions

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by the enemy wanting this not to succeed. Eventually on the third try they were able to get their

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attention. A lot of that is where we were in the cove where we were jet skiing the way that the

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water police would go by. Every time I quit breathing Jim would bring me back. It went on for

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about a half an hour where I was gurgling, moaning, stopping breathing. He would bring me back,

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gurgling, moaning, stopping breathing. That's when I left my body. I was up in a tree about 40 feet

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in the air and people have said to me, Sue, did you see the light? I didn't see any one light.

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I saw beams and beams of light everywhere. Like in the evening in the summer you'll see a beam of

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light come through a cloud. Those beams were everywhere. It was so bright, not painfully bright,

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but just so bright the leaves on the tree that I was in were just gently waving

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and yes they were green but it was so bright they were almost yellow. So one thing I can say about

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the near-death experience or out-of-body experience, colors are different. I'm trying to describe it to

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you in a way that you guys will understand it but it's just different. The lights are different.

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The colors are different. Like how when God speaks about heaven having colors we've never seen before.

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Exactly. Exactly. It's just very different. It would be very hard to describe a color

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that no one's seen. Yeah. So when I was in this tree other than looking out at the limb of the tree

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at the leaves and sheer beauty I could look down and I saw my son I'll say working on me. I feel like

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he was resuscitating me but I don't have any documentation of that and he would say, yeah,

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mom you'd stop breathing sometimes. To be completely honest it's difficult to get my son to talk about

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my accident. He has a lot of guilt for intentionally throwing me off the back of the jet ski

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and I've tried many times over the years and certainly immediately after you don't have any

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guilt. We were having fun. That's how you rolled. Exactly. Exactly. That's how we rolled. That's how

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we had fun. There is no guilt in it. That was a norm. But understandably I get it. Yeah. Yeah.

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I'm missing some pieces to the puzzle just because it's difficult for him to talk about.

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When I looked down at his friend what I actually saw him do, he was touching the jet skis. I want

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to think he was pulling them ashore. He was real close to the shore and he was touching the jet

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skis. But what my spirit told me is that he was in a position of prayer and like I said,

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he was not on his knees. His hands were not folded. But knowing this young man going to church with

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him for over 20 years, he was probably in a position of prayer. Oh my goodness, what happened?

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Lord help us. Again, I haven't had the opportunity to talk to him about that. That's about the extent

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of the automatic experience other than thankfully God allowed me to bring the emotions back with me.

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And that is peace and joy for I would say at least six years after my accident. It's been 12 now.

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I always had an overwhelming sense of peace and joy with me at all times. I still have it.

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It's just not to the volume. If I could use that word to... It's not to the volume that it was,

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but I still have that and I pray he lets me keep that forever till I get there again.

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The lack of anxiety, the lack of stress. Like I said, I could look down and see my son. He looked

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like he was working on me but I had no anxiety about it. I knew that was my body. I had no

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anxiety about it. No way did I say I want to go back there. No way did I say, oh my gosh, he needs help.

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Keeping in mind what I did for a living prior to my accident was I was a certified registered

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nurse and a statisticist. So I had attended many arrests in the hospital. In fact, my very first

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arrest as a new nurse, not a CRNA, but as a new nurse was in the cardiac unit and I had attended

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arrests before but it was never my patient. This is the first time it was my patient. At that time

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in medicine, which is blah, blah, blah, years ago, if it was your patient, you ran the arrest court.

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I was nervous. It was my first time running the arrest court. In this particular arrest,

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I was so nervous I dropped a medication that was in a blue box. The blue box hit the floor.

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I picked it up. It was still sterile. We used it. That patient was resuscitated. And when he came back,

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he told us what happened during the arrest and he went around the room and said, you did this and

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you did that and he pointed at me and said, you dropped the blue box. So all my career I knew this

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type of thing was true. And then as a CRNA, from time to time, we would resuscitate someone and

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they would tell us what happened. But now I have this memory. This is my story, my auto body experience.

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And it is so true that there is life after death. I was out of my body looking at what was going on

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earth, zero anxiety, zero fear. The next thing I remember is over a week later. That's not uncommon

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for traumatic brain injuries to not remember the event or a little bit after. Right. What I'm told

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is eventually the ambulance arrived. It took me to a helicopter, flew me from Deep Creek, Maryland

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to Ruby Memorial Hospital in Morgantown, West Virginia. I was in that hospital for 13 days.

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I was in a medically induced coma for three days. My daughter never left my side. While I don't

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remember what happened, what I've been told and what I can research on my medical record.

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A few things happened. Again, I've said I live life aggressively and many patients do this in

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the hospital. We don't know why they do it, but here's me. Nurses and doctors make the worst patients.

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I pulled my breathing tube out three times. The first two times they had to put it back in.

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The third time, thankfully, I was able to breathe on my own. Because I had this habit of pulling

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out my breathing tube, they put me in restraints. At first, they restrained my left hand. I was

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paralyzed on the right hand side. The jet ski hit me on the right side of my head. The hematoma

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developed on the left side of my head. Then things cross. Then, my right side was partially

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paralyzed. I did not have use of my right hand. The left was restrained. What I did next is I used my

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right foot and my big toe. I stuck it through the art line in my wrist. I pulled out the art line.

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Now, I'm in three-point restraints. Again, this is a battle. Satan wants me dead.

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I'm not aware of what I'm doing. I've known patients do these things from working in the

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ICU's. You don't know why they do them. I don't know why I did them. But these are things that I did.

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Have you ever made a decision on your own that's to your own detriment?

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Oh, we all have. You wonder why did I do it?

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Yeah. So here I was, making my life worse for myself. The good part is, every time something

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like this happened, my daughter was there. She never left my side. When I excavated myself,

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of course the alarms would go off, but she would be running for a nurse immediately.

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When I pulled the art line out, no alarm went off.

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And what does that mean?

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I'm sorry. An art line is an arterial line. So most IVs that you see in the hospital,

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they're intravenous there in your veins. Yes, there's blood flow in your vein,

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but the blood flow is much stronger in your artery. So if you pull out an IV, an intravenous,

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will it bleed out a little bit? Yeah, it will, but it will eventually stop

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with most people unless you're on a blood thinner or other circumstances. For an arterial line,

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if that comes out, you can bleed out.

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Okay. So this is a bigger deal than I was thinking.

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Yes.

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Okay. It's a big deal that my right toe came up and pulled out my arterial line.

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Oh boy.

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I couldn't bled out. Oh my.

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And again, my daughter was right there beside me and went for the nurse. Like I said,

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there's an attack here. My son tells me after all these things have transcribed or transpired,

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and I'm exubated. I'm breathing on my own. Apparently, I'm starting to talk a little bit,

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but again, I'm paralyzed on the right hand side. So I look like maybe a stroke victim would look

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that they just can't use the right side of their mouth. So my speech is way off. Words are very

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difficult for me to find, but I guess from what he said, I'm starting to talk. He reached out and

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grabbed my hand and I squeezed him back. He said, that's the first time in over a week that I had

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any kind of peace, mom. I felt like you were going to make it. What they tell me is the only words

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that I said for days is either okay if they're asking me a question or please instead of please,

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the SH on the other, please, as I couldn't speak correctly. After about six days in the ICU,

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they moved me to the step down unit. That's where I started talking more, but I didn't

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know my birthday. I didn't know my name at some times when they would ask me.

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And if you know in a hospital, when they bring your food tray in the room,

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they ask you, what's your name on your birthday? That's how they give the right patient the right

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food. I didn't know my name on my birthday. Apparently I got a little upset that they weren't

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leaving my food. I called everyone by my sister-in-law's name and I love her to death. And I'm not

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saying we're not close, but I don't know why I picked her name. I called everybody by her name.

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I could not pull names. I could not pull words from my brain. The only memories that I have of

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being in the hospital, because these things that I'm telling you have been told to me by

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my family and friends, I have a memory of waking up inside of a brain MRI machine.

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And I woke up inside of this machine. Now in my head, the last thing I remember is going to

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rent jet skis. So the first thing I remember after that is I'm inside this medical device.

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I'm looking around me going, this looks bad. This looks medical. And now let's go back a little bit

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further in time to my career in anesthesia. I did my best to always be the second patient

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at the bedside in the recovery room if that patient was going to get a bad diagnosis.

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So I take the patient to the recovery room after the surgery is done. Go visit my next patient.

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Let that patient wake up a little bit. The surgeon would go in and do what he had to do

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and probably give them devastating news. As often as I could, I made it my goal to be

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the next person at their bedside to encourage them. You've got this. You have to fight. Don't just

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take this diagnosis and go home. Take this diagnosis and work it. Fight it. Do whatever you have to do.

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Take the treatment, whatever they prescribe. Do it and do it well. And just everything I could to

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encourage them. So I'm inside this burn-a-mary machine. I'm getting a little fearful. This looks

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scary. And they had the opportunity to take my own advice. And I take, in that moment, I changed

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my thinking and said, no, so this is good. You're alive. And that has been what I've carried with me

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instantly. That peace and joy came. It's okay. You're alive. And I kept that all this time, like

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just day-to-day life. You've been through worse, so you can do this. Let's keep going.

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Things that my family was told while I was in the hospital. Initially, when they all arrived,

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I had already been there a few hours by the time people drove in from Pennsylvania. And my son,

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of course, the police wanted to talk to him and his friend, had you been drinking, had you been

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doing all the normal stuff. Of course, that was all fine. But it took them time to get to the hospital.

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I was in surgery for six hours. When I was done with my surgery and when the surgeon came out,

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they gave my family no hope that I was going to live. She made it through the surgery, but all

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of these obstacles are in front of her. First and foremost, the first thing we're worried about is

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a huge infection because her cranial cavity was opened into the lake. So right there, all that

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bacteria, whatnot. Praise God, I never got an infection. Well, I'm sure they popped me through

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with the antibiotics, but I cannot figure out how no infection ever developed. Praise God.

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Then they were told she might survive, but she couldn't be brain dead, we're not sure yet.

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You were calling everybody the one name. Yeah.

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So then they said she could be in a vegetative state. I came out of that. She could be paralyzed

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because I said I was paralyzed on the right hand side. That started to resolve a little bit and

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they said she might have the cognitive ability of a child. We just don't know how much she's going

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to get back. But I made it through all that. And yes, it took a lot of rehabilitation. I went

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to a rehab center. I was there about three days and I kept asking them how long do I have to be

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here? How long do I have to be here? They were very vague in their answers. I think they just

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didn't want to discourage me, but they were very vague. So on this third day, I put my foot down.

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They came to get me for my rehab that day. And I said I'm not going. And they said,

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come on, Sue, we're going to occupational therapy. We need to do this. I said, no,

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I'm not going anywhere until you tell me how long I have to be here. So now everything stops. They

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go get the nurse, get the doctor, get the physical therapist, get the occupancy. It's like a big

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family meeting now. Sue's causing trouble. But I knew my rights as a patient. I'd work to the

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hospital all these years. You have to answer my question. They told me when they all were done

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talking to me about everything that was going on, the moral of the story was you definitely will be

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here two and a half weeks because insurance has already paid for that. But it's possible you could

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be here for six months before you're well enough to go home. Again, I had the opportunity to take

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my own advice, do the work. At that point, I was not able to read. I didn't know my name on my

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birthday by then. I had learned that thank goodness. But I could not read walking. I could walk.

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I wasn't going to walk at any brisk pace because the paralysis on the right hand side was subsiding.

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But it was better than it was, but it was not good yet. I could not read. Speech was difficult.

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Still is difficult, if I'm completely honest. So that day when I came back

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from rehab, I did three rehabs per day. While I was in rehab, I did occupational therapy,

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speech therapy, and physical therapy. At the end of the day, I was so tired. I would always nap,

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and that found that was the best thing for me. I remembered a lot more when I woke up from my naps.

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So that became a high priority for the next several years for me was to get a good night's

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sleep. But when I came back that day from all that rehab, I was determined to read something.

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Don't you know there wasn't even a Gideon Bible in the drawer beside me as a patient?

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Not anything I could grab ahold of to read. So the news came on, and I thought, oh,

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there's that ticker tape at the bottom. There's always those words. I'm going to,

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I'm going to read something. Nothing that day. Nothing that day. I looked at that across the

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bottom of the screen. Absolutely nothing. That's got to be frustrating. Yes. The next day comes.

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I picked out a word, the T-H-E. Oh, I know that word. That's the, and I got so excited. And that's

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just how I proceeded. The rest of the weeks that I was in the rehab center was doing double work.

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Everything they told me to do, I would go back to my room and I would do it a second time.

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I would go back to my room just to get myself better and then sleep like no other. I would sleep

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such a sound sleep, but I always wake up feeling better than I did. Each time I

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remembered more, each time I spoke better, each time I was walking better. So I could just see

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how good sleep was. It sounds like you got a little bit of healing each round of sleep.

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Yes. Yes. That's when God was working in my life for sure. So after I was discharged from the rehab

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center, I came home and I was pulling off normal, pretty good on the outside. On the inside,

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was not so good. I had this constant noise in my head. I couldn't explain it. I never told

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anybody about it. I was aware of it. It was just always there. And then on top of that, I was not

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comprehending things like a normal person would. Someone would tell me a story and I would not

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along with it or maybe even chuckle if I felt like it was appropriate, but I wasn't always

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understanding what they were saying. I remember on two occasions asking my son to take me to the

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psych ward. I said, Jim, I think I'm losing my mind. I need help. And he'd be like, no, mom,

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you're doing fine. Go take a nap. Even he knew what was going to make me feel bad.

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So over time, what I found was that the noise in my head was ringing in my ears. It went away the

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next February. Several months, my accent was August in February. All this noise stopped in my head.

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It was ringing in my ears. In April, I got my taste and my smell back.

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I did not know while I was in the hospital, my mom would say, Sue, how's the food? My answer was,

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mom, tastes like poop. Tastes like poop. Has no good taste, mom. I didn't know

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that I couldn't taste and smell. It came back in April while I was happy to be able to taste the

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pizza again. How was the food then? Awesome. And my own is the best. I'm just saying.

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I believe that under the circumstances where you were.

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That was a big motivator for me to come home to was I wanted to cook. I want to go home and cook.

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I just want to enjoy doing. I bet it gave you a sense of normalcy.

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Yes. To get back to where you were doing your normal things. Yes. Yes. And when I came home,

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my son's buddies were wonderful. They would come every weekend and do whatever needed around the

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house with the grass needs mowed or fence need fixed, whatnot. His buddies were just the best.

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Do they still do it? Actually, they do. I was going to say, I ought to milk that one.

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He has the best friends on the planet. He really does. That's awesome. So I guess

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my takeaway from a lot of this is what's your purpose? What you're calling? I definitely think

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at least one reason that I came back, I can think of many is to tell this story. I think it can be

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so encouraging and that it has encouraged many people. And I pray that it does again. Me too. And

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I work daily just for that, the peace and the joy. And I just love to help others. I have helped

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many people since my accident. Some for a two year stretch, some for a couple of days. It's

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what I enjoy. And I'm so thankful and happy to be back here and doing God's will and trying to

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figure out what would you have me do in this situation? I'm here for a purpose. I'm here for

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a reason. Come on with me through it. I actually lost track of how many times you should have died.

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I was up at six while you were still on the beach. And then a couple more times in a hospital,

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from the expiation, from the art line, from the possible sepsis. So at least 10 times you should

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have been dead. At least. I don't do statistics in my head very well. So I'm not going to give you

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a number, but I'm going to go ahead and say that the probability of your survival had to have been

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extremely low, like less than 1%. I can only think of one being that could make sure that less than

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1% was 100%. I'm so grateful to hear how he moved in your life. And every instance, like what are

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the sheer chances, the sheer chances that the enemy used the distractions of the now that used the

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pain of the now that used the circumstances of the now, but God had already had something paved

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away, right? Your son had that training because God sees the future. The enemy doesn't see the future.

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And so he tries to distract it out. But God's going to lay this on his heart now. He'll think

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it's fun. It'll help. And you've been active in sports and such. So you say you did the right

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thing at the right time. Maybe it was instinct because you had been in sports for so long and

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dangerous activities that you had subliminally in your mind of what to do that God had prepared

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you for with your life. The same with the friend on the the did jetski that turned, right? Everybody

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responded the way they knew they needed to that they had developed through the years that the

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enemy couldn't touch because they can't really work in the now. And all the prognosis is the time

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that you took, we can recovery like years to get to where you are now and only be encouraged on top

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of that and to share that blessing of hope to other people, the blessing that you receive from the

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peace and the joy to other people. What a true blessing that is. And I don't know what God's

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purpose is for you and all of that because it seems like it's more than just one thing that you can

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pick out. It seems like it's quite literally a plethora of things that he's like, this is your

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purpose. I need you to do that. What about this? That's also your purpose. And this that also is

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your purpose. All of that. And then this and that and this that you are clearly here because he needs

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you here. You're clearly here because he has a need for Sue to be in this place right now. And

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you say you felt it on your heart to tell the story. You're telling it to a bunch of people

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right now. And I hope that this blesses so many people. I hope this encourages so many people.

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I hope that it resonates with those that have had loved ones with near-death experiences and

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out-of-body experiences. I hope it resonates with people that are in rehab that need to know that

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you'll get out what you put in right. If you don't do the work, it's going to show. But if you work

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hard, like you were doing double the work, when I walked into where I could never have guessed

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that you had gone through that, you never would have guessed it. Not in a million years. If you

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gave me a handful of chances to guess, I would never have guessed that you went through such things.

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That's incredible. What an incredible miracle you are. Oh, thank you. I would say that

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God can bless zero. He can definitely do a miracle with zero, but He can bless your own work a whole

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lot more than He can bless zero. You know what I mean? That's my thing. Just put your in your own

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work and God can bless it and multiply it. So huge. So big. And if I could say one more thing,

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in 2015, so three years after my accident, my husband passed away. I'm sorry to hear that.

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Thank you. He had been sick for 16 years. He had a genetic disease and it was a long 16-year stretch.

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His quality of life was not good. Mostly the last three or four years. The day he was dying,

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I went into his room and talked to him multiple times throughout the day. He was already in a coma.

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I have to say, I rarely looked him in the face and talked to him that day. I was looking in the

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corners of the room, talking to him in the corners of the room because I felt from my own experience

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and from the experience that I've had with others in my career, that's where he was looking at me.

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I bet that would be funny to hear the tale later when we all get reunited of him saying,

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she looked in the corner of my, no, wrong corner. And then you're around now. And then you're like,

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what did you see? You're looking right at me. I could see that. That would be hilarious. I was

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almost even excited that day that he was dying. Sad for myself and my children, of course,

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but excited for him to experience that peace and joy that I'd had. That for so many years,

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he just had a very poor quality of life here on earth. Especially for those that suffer.

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Yeah, absolutely. I 100% agree that it is like a dichotomy in our system that says that I want

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what's best for them, but at the same time, this horribly grieves me that I know this is better.

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I know and I'm glad that they're no longer going to be in that any longer in that situation, in

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that pain, in that suffering, in that whatever it is that they're going through. And at the same time

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that tomorrow it's going to just be me. And that is, that's, it's like literally equal sadness and

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happiness. And so I completely understand the people that say that I never would judge someone

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that said they were happy that someone passed. I get it. I get it 100% because I also know that

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you're also sad. And I think that's, so I think it's so cute. I'm just thinking about the corners.

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Thank you so much for joining us. I love this story. And as a non-medical person, I didn't

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realize how many times like death could have happened. And for Josh to put that into perspective,

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that helps a lot because like I'll process this all usually after the recording. So that,

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that definitely helped. And to see God show up time and time again was just so cool.

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And that's great. He didn't get you that far just to get you that far. You put in the work and he

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blessed it. And here you are today sharing your story. The least 28 different countries. So that's

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