1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,300 Welcome to the God's Goodness podcast, where our mission is to encourage and highlight God's 2 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:18,000 Goodness and modern-day miracles. We are your hosts, Josh and Shelly Hankins. Today we have 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,520 with us a special couple. They're back again. It's Pastor John and Belinda Kent with us, 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:28,640 and they have started telling us about their tales of their mission work in Papua New Guinea. 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:37,840 And we first started off with the calling and then how they found their way 270 miles deep in 6 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:44,440 the jungle. And now we're going to talk about some more miracles and stories. And years ago, 7 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,720 I told Pastor John, you need to write a book. And this is the next best thing until he gets 8 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,600 that book written for us. So with that, we'll have them open us up with an opening prayer. 9 00:00:54,600 --> 00:01:02,400 Yeah, thanks for letting us be here. Let's pray. Father, we are just so grateful for your grace in 10 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:11,960 our lives. And so astounded that from across the scope of the universe, you looked down and saw us 11 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:21,080 and saw value in us all and have chosen to use us for your glory. And so we just come to this 12 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:28,000 moment, this time of sharing and ask you to guide in everything that's said today, Lord, 13 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:35,800 that it truly will bring glory and honor to you. Thank you for hearing this prayer. Amen. Amen. 14 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:42,680 Okay, so where are you starting today? Well, we thought what we would do is kind of pick up 15 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:52,080 where we left off last time. If you remember, I told the story of arriving and discovering or the, 16 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,480 you know, wondering where I'm going to build a hut among the Iwam people. And they took me to the 17 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:04,920 top of the hill and there in the middle of nowhere, 270 miles from the nearest town is a 17 by 25 18 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:12,040 foot house on the lion post and a medical center separate from the house that the government had 19 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:20,040 built several years earlier, but had no money to staff. And so when I returned back to the provincial 20 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:25,560 center of Wewack, I thought, you know, the villagers had said, you can just use this. And I thought, 21 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:32,360 well, it would be wise to check in with the government just to be sure. And so when I get back 22 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:38,920 and recovered from sunburn and mosquito bites, I eventually made my way to the provincial 23 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:45,160 headquarters to see the secretary for health. And so I told him, you know, listen, my name is John 24 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:51,560 Kent, we're going to be moving to May River. And we're going to be establishing a mission there. 25 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:57,960 And we found this house and health center sitting. And I'm just wondering, would it be okay for us 26 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:06,760 to use that until we're able to, you know, build our own home? And, you know, Dr. Ciorari was his name. 27 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:14,840 He looked at me and he said, John, you know, the truth is that we built that house and that little 28 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:20,440 health center four years ago in the first attempt to bring development to the Wewack people. 29 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,560 And the problem is we had a grant to build it, but we have no money to operate it. 30 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,680 And so they said, he said, you know, if you will operate the health center, 31 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:38,280 we'll give both the health center and the house to your mission to operate. So just like that, 32 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:45,000 we not only had a house to live in, but we had a health center to operate and just provided completely 33 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:50,760 free by the provincial government. What did you have to do to operate the health center? Was it 34 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:56,760 vaccines? Was it, you know, first aid band-aids? Was it like, like what was the minimum requirement? 35 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:03,800 They actually did give us a minimal requirement, basically providing basic health care, first aid, 36 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:11,320 treatment for malaria, tropical ulcers. There's a host of diseases, accidents that would happen. 37 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:17,240 But I didn't come with any medical experience really. But we had had just 38 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:22,280 providentially a student missionary had come for a year that wanted to join us. She was a nurse. 39 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:28,680 Oh, awesome. So she was on her way to join us. Yeah, she was on her way to join us when the 40 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:34,360 health center was given to us. And clearly God is blindsided by that coincidence. Yeah, and then 41 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:40,040 just real quick add in, our church had a hospital in the Highlands that also was the training for 42 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,760 nurses. And so eventually it worked out to where they would bring down, they would do a rotation, 43 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,840 they would bring down two of their nurses every month that would stay a month with us. And then 44 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:53,240 they'd come back and the doctor would visit for a day with the plane. And then they take nurses 45 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:58,440 back and bring two new ones. So that was for a couple of years. We had a rotation of two 46 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:04,440 nurses plus our student nurse. That's awesome. Wow. Yeah. Anyway, amazing provision of God. 47 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:12,360 Again. Yeah. But one of the interesting things, this is where the story gets fun. So when the 48 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,800 government had built this, held this house, they actually put in a little septic system. 49 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,280 And you think, well, where did the water come from? Well, there we collected rainwater. We 50 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:28,040 got 20 feet of rain a year. So we collected rainwater into tanks and then use that water, 51 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:34,680 you know, for washing. And this had a little tiny, a little tiny toilet, a little tiny shower in that 52 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:42,040 house. But the problem is, so this, they left the top, it was a fiberglass septic tank. And they 53 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:48,120 left the top of it exposed. And so the tribal people came along and saw that and thought, 54 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:55,960 that's a great place to build a fire. And so they melted down the fiberglass septic tank. And so 55 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:02,360 that's what I found when I went up on the hill that day. And so what I needed to do now is to build 56 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:10,120 a septic tank before I could move the family out, you know, and so this all transpires not over in 57 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:17,240 moments, but in days and weeks, you know, it takes the wheels move very slowly in that primitive 58 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:24,200 situation. But finally, I was able to find a friend, you know, a member of our church there in 59 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:30,040 Papua New Guinea in the Wewack, the provincial headquarters, another Christian Sabbath keeper, 60 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:38,680 that he came with me and we took up a bunch of supplies. And the, what can I say, so where 61 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:47,160 our station was was miles from the nearest gravel, right? And I knew I needed to pour, I wanted to pour 62 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:54,520 a concrete septic tank. So I took some supplies up to do that. But I went to an actual supplier 63 00:06:54,520 --> 00:07:02,600 there in that provincial headquarters and I bought 35 sacks of premixed concrete, you know, 64 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:08,440 you know, with the gravel in it, not just cement, but concrete that all you had to do was put water in. 65 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:17,640 And so each one of those weighed 110 pounds. And so we went out to the river, we took two big canoes 66 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:26,920 and built a platform across them. And then I put onto that platform 30 over 3500 pounds of sacks of 67 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:34,200 cement and then tank rings and supplies, just all kinds of stuff, you know, to try and get this 68 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:41,480 house ready for the family to come out. And I'll never forget, we got into that, those canoes, 69 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:47,000 got everything loaded. And by the way, you know, between Wewack and the river is a 90 mile mud road, 70 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,520 John, just amazing. You don't want to forget anything. Yeah, you don't forget anything, right? 71 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:58,040 And, you know, you come to raging rivers because it's rain and you got to wait hours and you're 72 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:03,240 slogging through the mud. I'll get you some pictures on that, you know, grinding through mud, 73 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,680 trying to get there. Well, anyway, we get there, load it up and then begin what becomes a two day 74 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:15,160 up river journey. And along the way, man, just these monstrous crocodiles we're seeing. And 75 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:25,160 we arrive at May River on September 16. I'll never forget that date. As we come to the station, 76 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:32,440 the place where we're going to live, we pull in at the base of that hill. And I expected that there 77 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:40,040 would be a whole bunch of men and boys of men that would come to assist. But there was not a man 78 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:49,080 anywhere. It just so happened that September 16 was Papua New Guinea's Independence Day. 79 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,320 Their own holiday. And the entire tribe, which normally, I mean, they don't really, 80 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,960 you know, they don't have a really a way of celebrating, but the entire, all the men, 81 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:05,880 everybody traveled several hours up river to where they were going to play games for two days. 82 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Two days. And so when I pulled in there that evening with 3500 pounds plus of cement and tons 83 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:25,160 of other supplies, lumber and, and tank rings and all kinds of stuff, there was not a boy bigger, 84 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:33,400 there was not a man bigger than eight anywhere. And so this friend of mine and I and several guys 85 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:40,520 that came with us, I hired these guys to guide us up the river and get all that stuff there. We 86 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:46,520 lifted it all, got it all up in the bank, you know, scrambling up this mud bank. And we went up and 87 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:54,440 collapsed inside that little house. And the next morning, I get up and the three or four guys that 88 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:59,560 had come with me, they went down the hill, got in the canoes and they went back down river. 89 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:03,880 Because they said, we're part of a tournament for Independence Day. 90 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:12,200 I guess stuff to do. So they turned around and went down river and left Salmon Eye. This was my 91 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:18,760 friend. They left Salmon Eye standing on the bank. And no one had mentioned out of politeness, 92 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,120 it was Independence Day. Hey, you're going up their Independence Day, but you know, 93 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:28,440 they were too embarrassed to tell, to say anything. Also, did they keep calendars? How did 94 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,360 they know that it was Independence Day? Was it literally just word of mouth? Or did they like 95 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:37,640 watch the stars? They had a basic calendar. They knew what day. They knew it. They were educated 96 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:46,920 enough to know the dates and the calendars. So anyway, so we're standing there with this massive 97 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:55,640 mound of supplies and a steep hill, you know, quarter, third of a mile up to the house. 98 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:02,840 Oh, gosh. And I looked at that pile and I looked at my friend Sam and said, well, 99 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:10,280 we better start carrying. And so reach down and pick up 110 pound sack of cement and put it on 100 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:17,080 your shoulder and start hiking up that hill. And by the time you got up once, our legs were like 101 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:24,840 jelly, right? And then come down and pick up another one and start up that hill again. And 102 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:34,360 about the third round, these three little boys came out of the jungle. Ben, Jacob, and I don't 103 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:40,920 remember the name of the third, but Jacob, Benjamin and a third little boy. And they looked at us for 104 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:47,320 a little bit and then they ran off and disappeared. A few minutes later, they came back with an old 105 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:53,960 iron wheeled wheelbarrow. Where, how long it had been there? Where did it come from? I don't know, 106 00:11:53,960 --> 00:12:00,360 but it was this old iron wheeled wheelbarrow. And they came back and those three little boys, 107 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:07,400 they would reach down and they picked up together 110 pound sack of cement. And then one took one 108 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,600 handle, one took the other handle and the third tied a vine to the front of the wheelbarrow. 109 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:21,080 And they would wheel up a sack of cement. And they helped us all day long as we carried cement 110 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:28,280 up that hill and lumber up that hill and other things that we had to carry up. We probably had 111 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:35,640 4,000 pounds of supplies on those two canoes. And it's an amazing memory. And I have a picture of 112 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:42,440 them that I can share with you on that day. But here's the astounding thing. Through the years, 113 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:50,600 we continued to invest in those boys. And Belinda, she taught Jacob how to read and write 114 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:57,640 in, in talk Pison, the local language, and then how to read and write in English. And eventually 115 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:03,320 I gave him basic math skills and stuff. He had had a little bit of education, all the education 116 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:08,840 in New Guinea is in English. So it had a little bit. So then I worked with him to up his math 117 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:14,120 skills so that we could put him into mission school at grade six. So so we put him into mission 118 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:19,960 school at grade six. And he went through that. And then we found some sponsors and we helped him 119 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:27,560 go on. Only six grades of education are expected in New Guinea. After that, you just get weeded out 120 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:34,520 the farther you go. But eventually Jacob completed high school. And today, and then he went to a 121 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:40,840 pastor training. He went to a little Bible school and did some pastors training. And today Jacob leads 122 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:47,160 more than a thousand believers. Amazing. That's gonna make me cry. Where's he stationed? In that 123 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:54,600 same, that May River. That's amazing. You know, he's the leader of the church there in at May River 124 00:13:54,600 --> 00:14:01,400 among the EWOM that previously had been unreached. And so he's leading more than a thousand members 125 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:09,000 today with multiple churches and schools and the clinic and other aspects of that. So it's just 126 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:16,120 an amazing story of God's, you know, God's grace of an eight year old boy coming with an iron wheeled 127 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:21,640 wheelbarrow. You know what I love about that is those boys could have seen you struggle and brought 128 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:28,120 you the wheelbarrow to make your struggle easier. But instead, they chose to join you and create 129 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:35,720 work for themselves. Right. Which took work from you. Right. I just, I love the heart behind that. 130 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:42,120 I love the heart that says, Hey, I want to help. So here's this. Instead, they said, I want to help. 131 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:49,800 So I'm going to help instead of enabling you to do it easier. Right. I think you clearly saw it that 132 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:58,760 the willingness to step in and do something is probably what helped key your decision to invest 133 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,640 in them is not just that they had a wheelbarrow, but that they used it to help you instead of 134 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:08,040 giving it to you to help make yourself easier. Like this was, I think this is something that is 135 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:14,840 unidentifiable as what a leader is at a young age. This is what you do. And now here he is leading. 136 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:20,280 Yeah. And actually Jacob was Ben Mollio that John met at the river that was such a providence. 137 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:27,480 Jacob was his little brother. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. And we'll come back to that. That's sorry. Yeah. 138 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:34,920 But yeah, Jacob was Ben's little brother. But yeah, so, you know, Jacob, through the years, 139 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:41,960 you know, he went, he came, we returned. He completed his Bible school training, you know, 140 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:47,160 he came back to the village. He became a missionary among another tribal group nearby. 141 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:53,960 Back in 2007, was it? Glenn and I returned. I can't remember the year we returned 142 00:15:54,600 --> 00:16:01,880 to pay a final visit to the EWOM. And he was living deep, you know, eight more hours deeper into the 143 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:09,240 jungle. And we went to find and visit him. He didn't know we were coming. But we can't really call 144 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:15,480 ahead. Yeah, you can't call ahead. But, you know, we made our way through the jungle over the coconut 145 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:22,200 hills and, you know, crossing rivers and wading streams. And when we come into the region, the 146 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:28,520 word began to travel, you know, up through the jungle, the coconut telegraph we used to call it. 147 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,640 You know, the word made its way. And we met Jacob. He came across the river just weeping and weeping 148 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:39,320 and weeping because his spiritual father and mother had come back. Yeah, he just hung on to us 149 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,560 just the longest time, just crying and crying. And we have a picture of that too, I think. 150 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Can't remember. Yeah, just, you know, it's just amazing what God did in that young man's life 151 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:56,680 and what he continues to do with his life today. Awesome. All because of your faithfulness. 152 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,600 That if it wasn't for the two of you going there, that never would have happened. 153 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,960 Yeah. Because you wouldn't have gone without her and you'd have to go with kids. And so, 154 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,680 there was a great amount of faithfulness that took place on your part to enable him 155 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,120 to lead with his faith. Yeah. That's incredible. Yeah. Incredible. 156 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:24,280 So we're going to transition to blended here in a moment, but it took from the time that actually 157 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:31,400 we arrived in the country until we made the move to May River. It was about three or four months. 158 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:37,320 We arrived in July, I think July 9. And it was in late October-ish, right? November. 159 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:42,440 November when we actually made the move out there. Because just logistically, 160 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:48,600 how do you move your family up there? With no moving trucks. With no moving trucks. 161 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:56,520 Yeah. And we were able to get a truck. There was just a lot of trial, a lot of tears during that 162 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:02,840 time, coming short of money, not having the money to do what we need to do. We made arrangements. 163 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:09,000 There was this medical launch that was like a houseboat that we were supposed to be able to use 164 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:15,480 to move our stuff out. And we were getting everything loaded on our truck and then got 165 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:21,720 word that that launch didn't actually work. And so we were going to have to do it on canoes. 166 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:29,720 Yeah. So it just took a long time. But when it came down to the end, I left, was supposed to be just 167 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:35,640 a few days ahead of Blin. I was taking the load of our things out in these double canoes. 168 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,880 And there were just a number of things that went wrong. 169 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:46,920 It's many, many things that went wrong. And I was supposed to be there like a week ahead of her to 170 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:54,360 finish up the septic system to just get this tiny house ready for she and the three boys. 171 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:03,080 And I got there the night before they were supposed to arrive. And we had made arrangements for a 172 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:10,040 pilot to come. We'd found there was an airstrip about four or five miles up river that planes came 173 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:18,760 into and little, little six-seater airplanes, a little grass airstrip. And we made arrangements 174 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:24,840 for them to come pick Blin up and take her out there. And I was going to meet them at that time. 175 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:30,040 And with that, I'll transition over to Blin. So John left a week before. And of course, 176 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,760 there was no radio contact, no cell phones back then, nothing like that. So the kids and I, 177 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,680 the three boys and I were there in Wewack by ourselves. And I was trying to wrap up the final 178 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,880 things before the pilots came. Our church had a whole, from the highlands, they had a whole, 179 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:49,240 they had several pilots that flew and serviced all the missionaries in New Guinea. So they were 180 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,520 supposed to come pick us up in a week. And we had made arrangements when John had, all the trips John 181 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,760 had made to the government office and everything. The government was actually supposed to, every two 182 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:05,000 weeks, they said they were flying out mail to the little airstrips up there in the area and 183 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,600 to bring mail and supplies to everybody. And so we had arranged with them that they would, 184 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,800 our mail was coming to Wewack and then they would pick it up. Someone from the mission in 185 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,920 Wewack would take it to the government office and then they would fly it out every two weeks. 186 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:26,520 And so I thought, well, two weeks, I can handle going two weeks at a time without mail. So one 187 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:32,200 of the last days there, I had somebody, one of the local people watch the boys and I hired, 188 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,080 got on a bus and went to the government office. And it was actually one of our church members 189 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,640 that was working for the government. And I went to talk to her just to make sure that she knew 190 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,640 that someone from the Wewack mission was going to bring our mail and they fly it out. And she 191 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:52,680 looked at me and she says, well, unfortunately, the services have been suspended indefinitely. 192 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,960 And I just looked at her, she says, we just don't have the money they had planned on this big 193 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,680 mind opening and it hadn't opened up and that was supposed to give all this money to the government. 194 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:08,680 And they, it didn't work out and they just didn't have the cash to do it. So I went back to our 195 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,920 little house at the mission station where we were staying. It was right on the ocean where 196 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:19,480 you could overlook the ocean. And I just said, God, what am I supposed to do? No mail. And 197 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:24,760 the pilots flew in that evening, two of them. We called it the transit flat. There were several 198 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:30,440 bedrooms. So they stayed in one of the bedrooms. And at that point too, there was a radio system 199 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,880 that everybody, all the missionaries in our church throughout New Guinea could get on the radio and 200 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:41,160 you know, talk every day if you needed help or anything. And so they brought our radio, but 201 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:46,920 they mentioned, oh, we forgot the battery. We accidentally left the battery to run this radio 202 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:52,840 for communication. So that night they went down to the ocean and they took, they went swimming 203 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:58,040 and then they came back. I'd gotten the boys to bed and I just kind of sat at the table in the 204 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:04,680 little transit house. I could hear the waves of the ocean. And I wrote a letter to my mom and dad 205 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,640 and I wrote a letter to John's mom and I just said, I'm leaving tomorrow for the jungle. 206 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:15,880 We don't know what, when we're going to get mail out again, the mail was suspended, you know. And I 207 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,360 just wrote, I don't know when you'll hear from us again. And I just sat there just, I'd been struggling 208 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:24,760 all day close to tears and I just sat there. It was felt like I was writing my last will and 209 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:32,040 testimony. You know, just, I didn't know, you know, and I just kind of just sat there and I just 210 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:37,160 let the peace, at first I said, God, I can't do this. I can't do this. And then I just let the 211 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,440 peace of the waves, just the sound of the waves coming in. Just, it just felt like God's peace 212 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:48,280 was ascending on me and that He said, you can, I will be with you. And so the next day, the pilots 213 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,200 said, well, we're going to get up at six because they had a ton of other flying to do. We were the 214 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,160 first on their list and we'll drop you off. Well, no one at that point, they'd never flown into 215 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:04,760 May River. And so, and by the way, just so you know, flying there at that time was not, you 216 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:11,240 know, there weren't any electronics to do it. You did it with a watch, time, and landmarks. 217 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:21,240 Wow. That's how you found an airstrip. Anyway, so no one realized that May River often clouds in early 218 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,400 in the morning and that if you want to fly into May River, you kind of wait till 9, 10 in the morning. 219 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:31,000 Well, we left at six and it was going to take an hour out there. We had gotten a dog for the boys. 220 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,520 And so we went out to the Wewack Airport and little Cessna airplane. I'd never been on a little 221 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:42,440 plane before. So we got in the back and the Aaron and Chad, the five and three year old, were in the 222 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,240 way back and then I was in the middle seat with holding our 18 month old on my lap. The dog was 223 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:54,280 down in the bottom in the baggage. They stuffed it in the baggage thing and we took off and I was 224 00:23:54,280 --> 00:24:00,120 scared to death, you know, as a plane, a little Cessna plane. I'd never been on one. So I was 225 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:06,120 scared to death holding on to my little baby and then watching my boys. And as we flew out 226 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:14,200 for the hour, I just was looking out the window and just noticed how remote. It was getting fewer 227 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,320 and fewer huts. You know, you could see the Seapick River, but just fewer and fewer huts 228 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:26,760 along and I just said, really, this is really remote. I mean, John had kind of told me he had 229 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:33,080 two trips up there, but still it was just very remote. And then as we got closer to May River, 230 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,600 where there's a few more hills, the clouds came in and of course they're not flying by instruments, 231 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,720 they're flying by site and they never landed at May River before. So they were making their way 232 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:49,560 through the clouds and circling around and I said to them, how are we going to let John know that 233 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,200 we're coming? I mean, we'd sit on this date, but they said, oh, he'll know, he'll hear us. 234 00:24:54,200 --> 00:25:01,720 He'll hear us. So we circled around and around and you know, the airstrip had white cones. There 235 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,960 was actually another mission that was there at the airstrip. They were doing Bible translation. So 236 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,640 there was one house there with a couple of American families. Anyway, they had the white cones out 237 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,920 and you could see them and then the clouds would take over and I think the pilots, they were later, 238 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,720 we found out that one pilot became our close friend and he said he was pretty worried that day. 239 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:27,160 Anyway, we ended up, they made their way through the clouds and I just kept hanging on to Matthew 240 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:33,960 in my lap and we landed on the airstrip and you know, John, the only, there was no way to let 241 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:39,640 John know when to come. And so I had gone to bed the evening before, absolutely exhausted from a 242 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:46,360 several day journey up the river in the sun and unloading stuff that night and we had collapsed 243 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:53,400 there and gone to bed. And so I woke up to a plane going around and around and around and I said, 244 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:59,240 well, that must be that. So we raced down, jumped into a canoe and you know, made the way about 245 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:07,240 five miles up river. So you know, the pilots, they landed. So they landed, they left me there. 246 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:13,800 They unloaded the, they had a ton of work to do that day. So they, they took left the kids and I 247 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,200 out and the dog was just shivering. They opened the baggage thing. The dog was shivering. They took 248 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,640 out the few bags that we had and they shook my hands and they said, we had to take off. Now, 249 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:30,200 the new tribes translators that were there, they did come out and gave us a little shady place to 250 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,680 sit while we were waiting for John, but just watching those pilots take off, it was like, 251 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,160 you're just leaving me here in the middle of the jungle. Anyway, about 20 minutes later, 252 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:45,320 John came up and we got in the canoe and went down river to, to where we were. And when we climbed 253 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,680 out of the canoe there at the bottom of the hill, it was a canoe that had brought John up and they 254 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,160 had to take off immediately that day too to go down river. So we stood on the river bank. Oh, 255 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:02,040 we had ordered a boat from Australia, a dinghy to take us around and had not arrived before we 256 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,320 left. It was supposed to go up in the cargo that John had brought. So he had bought an 257 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,120 outboard motor. So we stood there on the bank of that river watching these guys take off to go back 258 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:15,560 to Humpa and to with the canoes and we had an outboard motor and no boat and we had a radio and 259 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:21,320 no battery. And I stood there on that bank with my 18 month old in my arm and my five and three 260 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,840 year old boy standing beside me was seeing all these people, you know, in Wewack, a lot of people 261 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:32,280 spoke English, but here they didn't speak English, just hearing the strange language and a lot of 262 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:37,880 them were covered with the skin fungus ringworm and just saying, man, I hope none of them hold my 263 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:43,720 baby and just just being scared to death. And then it felt like literally we were at the end of the 264 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:49,240 world, you know, just when those canoes, I'll never forget those canoes leaving us and going down 265 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:55,480 river and just feeling like we were left in in civilization and walking up the hill and the 266 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,960 heat and humidity, you know, with the two little boys and holding Matthew in my arms and just making 267 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:04,200 our way up to this tiny house and the septic hadn't gotten done because John had just gotten there and 268 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:11,560 so we had this broken little outhouse to use for a few days. Anyway, it was the pilot actually came 269 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,280 a week later and dropped the battery at the airstrip. Again, we just heard the plane circling. 270 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:22,040 Yeah, all we heard was a plane flying over. And I knew that he, so John made his way up river and 271 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,440 sure enough, he dropped the battery off and so then we at least had communication. But yeah, 272 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:34,360 it was it was quite scary. And so that was November. And then three weeks later, they brought our 273 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:40,680 student nurse out Kelly. And then when we had come to New Guinea and when we had packed up all our 274 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,640 crate and stuff in July from the States, I'd said to John, we should pack Christmas presents for our 275 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,760 kids, you know, we always made a big deal of Christmas for the boys. And we always bought quality 276 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,000 things like Legos and stuff. And John says, oh, they're going to have all that stuff over there. 277 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:01,240 We can just buy it. And so we got to Wewack when we got to Wewack in July. And when we were getting 278 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,800 ready to move, I went and all these all the where were these little Chinese shops because John said 279 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,800 back then, Australia, you know, they're under Australia, they're going to have all the Australian 280 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:15,720 goods. Well, they didn't. It was Chinese junkie. I mean, not junkie, but just little cheap Chinese 281 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,840 stuff. And I was used to buying quality toys, you know, for our kids. And so I'd written to our friends 282 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:26,200 and family in the States and said, can you guys send a few little gifts for Christmas? Well, at that 283 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:32,600 time, we did not realize that packages, not air mail, but packages took six to eight months to get 284 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:41,000 to New Guinea. Wow. So that's to get to the country, to the country, then not let alone to us. 270 miles 285 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:47,240 upstate, which only happened. You know, I went to town about every two to three months. So from then 286 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:53,480 on, we got mail every two to three months packages every two to three months. Anyway, so when we got 287 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,840 so when we left Wewack, I didn't have anything for the kids. So we were up there and it was getting 288 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:04,120 closer to Christmas. And I just said to John, what are we going to do with the kids? What are we 289 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,720 going to do with the kids for Christmas? Because we'd always make Christmas really special for them. 290 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:14,120 And I didn't have anything for that. I bought a couple little things for them. So the couple 291 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:20,760 days before Christmas, our radio, which we had working at that time, the pilot up in the Highlands, 292 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,000 one of the other pilots, crackled to life and said, how would you guys like to come to the Highlands 293 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:31,880 for Christmas? He said, I'll come down Christmas Eve and pick you up. Yeah, Christmas Eve day. And so 294 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:37,080 the day before, I just said to John, we've got to get a couple little things made for the kids. So 295 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,880 John actually went down. We've got he got in the generator shed set up in the generator and he went 296 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:47,160 down there and he bits of our crate. He took boards in our oldest son, Aaron. He was five and a half 297 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,080 at the time and he just said, we got to make something for my brother. So he and John were 298 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:59,160 there late at night making little boats out of the crate, crate pieces. And that morning, we had 299 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,680 a little Christmas there for the boys. And then the plane came that day and picked us up and took 300 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:10,120 us up to the Highlands. Now, unbeknownst to me, one of my friends in Michigan that was supporting 301 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,720 us, she had decided she was going to air mail a Christmas package just not surface, but air mail. 302 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,640 And so on the way, the pilot picked us up and on the way he was going to take us to our hospital 303 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,880 at 8,000 feet there in New Guinea, which was going to be cool. It was going to feel more like 304 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:31,560 Christmas because where we were was so hot. Anyways, on the way up to drop us at the Soapus 305 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:37,640 Hospital, he got a radio call from his wife in Mount Hogan that a package had arrived from America 306 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:44,920 for us. So he dropped us at Soapus. He didn't have to do this. And he flew 30 minutes over the mountain 307 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:50,840 to pick up the package from his wife, flew back over to the hospital. It was this big box from 308 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,880 my friend in the States. And the next morning was Christmas morning. And we opened it and there was 309 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:02,520 a toy for every kid. Just it was just little gifts and stuff. And it was just amazing. It was the 310 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:10,520 best Christmas we've ever had. Right on time. Right on time. And was it cooler? We needed jackets. 311 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,120 They're vegetables. They grew up there down in the plains. It was they can't grow food because 312 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:22,600 the flooding and the river we had bananas, but a few greens, but everything was hard up there. 313 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:29,000 You went to market their carrots and potatoes and broccoli. And just it was, you felt like. 314 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:34,840 Every time we went to the hide ends, it was like we died and went to heaven. They even had strawberries. 315 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:41,160 And it was amazing. So and then we got to know some Australians. Another family was up there of 316 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,520 Australians. They also had, well, we only had three children at the time, but they had four kids. 317 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:52,760 And so they've become one of our best friends to this day. So we went on vacations with them. But 318 00:32:52,760 --> 00:33:00,120 yeah, we stayed up there with them. It was so nice and cool. And so blessed. That's incredible. I can't 319 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:08,040 imagine the fear that you must have felt and how much God had to intervene on that fear to give 320 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:14,680 you the peace enough to get on that plane. And then the fear you built on the plane, you know, the poor dog. 321 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:23,720 I don't think he ever recovered from that. And to bring a dog, wouldn't the Ewan people see that 322 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:30,520 as like potential food at some point? They usually didn't eat dogs, but maybe. Well, I know some 323 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,480 tribes actually still ate people, didn't they? Well, many of the people that we lived among, 324 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,440 many of the men still remembered the taste of human flesh. Yeah. So like, I don't know how a dog is 325 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:49,560 off limits. If Ray is not off limits. And so, you know, the fear that you must have felt in the heat 326 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:56,680 and the desperation and like that's a lot to overcome. And to be a mother on top of it, 327 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,440 not just a mother, but bring those children with you as a mother, right? So you have the sense of 328 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,520 protection as a mother, the sense of nurturing as a mother. And you have these three kids in a place 329 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,800 where you admit you can't provide Christmas. What else did you feel that you couldn't provide? 330 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:18,600 And I can't imagine the amount of fear, trepidation, uncertainty that you could have felt. 331 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:25,160 How much do you think you've grown from the first year to like the second year to the third year? 332 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,960 Or was it all pretty much asking God to give you peace like every moment of every day? 333 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,760 No, it was actually, you know, we grew to just love the people there and everything. And by the 334 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:40,760 time we left, they actually said to us, John and Belinda, the only difference between us is your 335 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:46,760 skin color. You're just like us. And it was actually, it was a lot harder to leave than it was to go 336 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,960 there. When we went, came back to states eight years later, it was so hard, you know, we just really 337 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:58,280 missed them. So yeah, God did a lot of growth in us during that time. How hard was it for your kids 338 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:04,920 to simulate with American kids afterwards after being a part of tribal life? 339 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,120 It was 13 when we brought him back and it took him a decade at least to get over that. 340 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,800 Yeah, it was harder. Others were a bit younger. Our daughter was only six, so it wasn't as hard. 341 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,560 But yeah, the first two years we were back in the States, there was in a day that went by that 342 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,160 the kids are one of us said, life here stinks. 343 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:31,240 What an interesting perspective. We have all these things that we take for granted 344 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,880 and your kids were raised with none of those things and longed for them. 345 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:41,160 Yeah, they were raised so simple because, you know, their entertainment was making 346 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:47,240 fronds, coconut fronds as a slide down the mud bank. And then in the river, we went down to 347 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:53,480 river every night to swim and just, you know, they Legos, they're Legos. They, you know, 348 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,360 eventually two years in a family joined us. They were both nurses, so they joined us and they had 349 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,880 couple kids. So the kids together, you know, would play together. And then when they came to the 350 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,680 States, they just said, these kids just don't know how to attain themselves. They just want video games. 351 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,920 Our kids were happy under our house. Eventually we built a house on eight foot posts. And so 352 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,240 every day in the heat, the kids would go under the house and play and make their cars and their 353 00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:23,320 tracks. And when they got to States, they said, kids don't know how to entertain themselves. 354 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,520 They don't know the supper either. Kids here, you know, if it's a hot day, what do they do? 355 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,640 They wind, they want to go inside, they don't want to do anything. They complain. 356 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:37,160 That's what your kids do. Let's go slide down a mud bank. It's hot. Nothing's going to change yet. 357 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:43,400 Let's go have fun. So, you know, eight years and we have another store, maybe to tell to finish 358 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:50,280 this piece up, but you know, eight years of immersion in a culture like that irrevocably changes you. 359 00:36:51,160 --> 00:37:00,920 That culture was a highly relational culture. You know, houses, there aren't windows or doors even. 360 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,920 Windows with the screen. Well, our house had windows in the screen, but there's did. They were pots, 361 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:15,800 you know, and you're a village. And so you're just, you hear everything. You're part of everything 362 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,920 that's happening in the village, you know, so you're just, you're kind of immersed in it. 363 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:26,920 And over time, that becomes very comforting, maybe, you know, reassuring just to know that 364 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:33,160 you're part of this greater community. When you come here, when we came back, all of a sudden we 365 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:40,680 went from this open environment into an environment with sealed houses and sealed doors and you can't 366 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,720 even hear the birds outside if your windows are closed, right? And you certainly have little 367 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:52,680 engagement with your neighbors. So all of that was part of a called reverse culture shock of coming 368 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:59,400 back and just experiencing after eight years of immersion, having to re-enter this world and make 369 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:05,400 adjustments back. But on the front end, yeah, the lack of privacy on the front end was just 370 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:10,840 really hard for me. We had this little 400 square foot house, the whole front end was open, 371 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,960 and it was a porch and John eventually put a screen on it so that the boys, you know, 372 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,360 it was just gave an extra area for the boys to play in and not have to worry about mosquitoes. 373 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,280 But it was right on the path to the health center. So every morning, and it was just open, you know, 374 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:33,080 my kitchen sink and when I was cooking and stuff and doing my little laundry, we got a generator. 375 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:39,320 So we had this little Japanese washer. We ran the generator a couple times a week anyway. So I would 376 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,800 be washing the breakfast dishes and I had started home schooling our oldest son sitting there at 377 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,800 the table and all the ladies with the children on their backs would come and they would just plaster 378 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,600 themselves on the screen just looking at me and talk talking in their dialect, you know, 379 00:38:54,600 --> 00:39:00,200 I mean, their local dialect. And the only place I had to go where they couldn't see me was our 380 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,840 tiny's bathroom two feet by two feet, you know, I had a tiny shower in a toilet that would just 381 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,320 go in there and just sit on the toilet and close the door just to get away from all these prying 382 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:16,040 eyes. But, you know, we got used to that more eventually. The bathroom feels like my, my, 383 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:22,200 what do they call it, the war room. War room? My prayer closet, for sure. I get my best ideas 384 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,760 in the bathroom. Yeah. Anyway, so it just took a while to get used to that. But then we came back 385 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:33,160 to states it was reverse of that. Well, yeah, I mean, I guess for the you want people the concept of 386 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:39,000 personal, they didn't have it like not property themselves. I'm sure they knew it. If it's theirs, 387 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,200 they know it's theirs. But like as far as territory goes, was not a concept. So they walked where they 388 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,800 pleased, right? Right. Right. Where are you? Wherever my foot is, is mine. It's yours too. It's fine. 389 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:55,480 Well, even property was everybody if you didn't own it, you know, if somebody had something, 390 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,000 somebody else could just come and take it and not not steal it, but then it would become theirs. 391 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,360 It's very, very shared community. It reminds me of the book of acts where if somebody needed 392 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:12,280 something, the community pitched in and worked it out. They had what they needed. Yeah. It's cool. 393 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:21,240 Well, we wanted to maybe for the next piece here, share Ben's story. I love all these stories. And 394 00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:27,640 I want to let the listeners know some of our newest developments are an email list with the 395 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:33,640 sign up link is on the Facebook page. 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