1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,480 Welcome to the God's Goodness podcast where our mission is to encourage as well as highlight 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,880 God's goodness and modern-day miracles. 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,880 We are your hosts, Josh and Shelly Hankins. 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,480 Today we have with us a special guest. 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,520 This is part two of God's Mad Cat Missionary. 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,200 Her name is Wendy Lawson and I don't know if you got to listen to her first episode with 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:33,080 us, but she talked about some miracles in her past such as being healed from 11 years 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,520 of MS, which is not curable with today's modern medicine, but she was cured of that. 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,720 And she talked about some other miracles that she has seen in her years as a missionary. 10 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:49,400 And since then she had given me her book, God's Mad Cat Missionary, and I read it and I thought 11 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:55,220 it would be really cool if we went into an episode with the theme being the protection. 12 00:00:55,220 --> 00:01:00,600 She always seemed to have God's hand of protection on her life from before she had the relationship 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,920 with God, you know, all the way when she was a little girl being forced to go to church 14 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:10,360 by her mom and being the born-again believer, but not having that relationship and then having 15 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,160 that relationship with God. 16 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:18,600 So I wanted to have her review some of those stories that highlight his protection over 17 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:19,840 her life. 18 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,480 And I believe, you know, a lot of us have this protection even though we don't realize 19 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:29,640 it, and he is walking us through all kinds of things that other people may have not survived. 20 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,200 But before we get into the episode, we're going to have Wendy open us officially with 21 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,440 the opening prayer. 22 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:41,800 Well, Heavenly Father, we just lift this day, this podcast up to you to give you glory, 23 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,120 Lord God, that you are just so good to all of us, Father God. 24 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:51,760 And I want to share today on this podcast about your hand of protection over me, the 25 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:59,080 theme of protection through my entire life, like Shelley said, from a little girl to today. 26 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,600 So Lord, we just ask you to bless every word that comes out of my mouth. 27 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,960 I'll let the Holy Spirit take over, Lord God. 28 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,320 And I thank you for their wonderful podcast with Shelley and Josh. 29 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,320 In Jesus' name we pray, amen. 30 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Amen. 31 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Amen. 32 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,560 In the first chapter of your book, it's called Off to China. 33 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:22,400 And you describe that all the things from the plane ride, how everyone looks so calm 34 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,960 and sedated, and you were wondering, why aren't these people more excited? 35 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:32,720 And they even have this picture that was in a time magazine in 2000. 36 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,000 And I wanted you to share a little bit about that time. 37 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,840 Now back in the day, we didn't have cell phones, believe it or not. 38 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,400 And so one of your missions in China was to get the word out. 39 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:50,800 When you had taken a trip to Australia, you got 10,000 Bibles to be distributed in a country 40 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,280 where it's not allowed to be distributed. 41 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,440 And then you're sneaking into China with 75 double bags. 42 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,960 All it didn't look suspicious or anything. 43 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:01,920 And they had to be heavy. 44 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:02,920 They were. 45 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:03,920 Yeah. 46 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:06,600 And then you're praying that they don't stop you. 47 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,040 So on your missions, you were trying to spread the gospel of Jesus to a place where they 48 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,040 don't want this spread. 49 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,760 And you had to work in the cover of night, dressed like a Chinese peasant, and you would 50 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:23,200 be going out 11 o'clock at night, working all hours of the night with this 17-year-old 51 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,200 girl. 52 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:29,200 And you guys went all around just putting these tracks on people's windows and wherever 53 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,200 you could put them. 54 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,520 Their bicycle baskets. 55 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,680 Even on their bodies when they're laying on the street or the sidewalks. 56 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,160 So tell us a little bit about that time. 57 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,160 We're going to start with her time in Australia. 58 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Okay. 59 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,400 So we went to Australia. 60 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:50,640 I couldn't wait to go on this missions trip with Marilyn Hickey Ministries out of Colorado. 61 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:55,840 We were going to smuggle the article in Time Magazine is when smugglers are working for 62 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,040 Jesus. 63 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,680 So I was ready for just a risky trip. 64 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:06,360 I mean, and this is where God's protection through my whole life just comes in. 65 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:12,360 So we landed in Australia and we were there to pick up 10,000 Bibles all written in the 66 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,320 Chinese language. 67 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:20,360 And so, and we put them all in 75 duffel bags, loaded them on the airplane and flew into 68 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,360 Hong Kong. 69 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,360 Okay. 70 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,480 So when we landed, we had these duffel bags. 71 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,320 And I mean, it looks so obvious. 72 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,640 And we were told that just go towards the green sign that said exit. 73 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:39,400 It was course written Chinese, but the green sign and just take your duffel bag, walk to 74 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,960 the green sign and get on the bus. 75 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,040 Do not say anything. 76 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,920 So that's what we did. 77 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,680 And there was some mumbling and things like that, but they were pretty confused of what 78 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,400 we were doing. 79 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:58,160 And the commonest officials were all dressed in their green, we called them turtles, long 80 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,720 pea coats down to the ground. 81 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,400 So we got on that bus and we delivered those Bibles into that underground church in Hong 82 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,800 Kong. 83 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:13,240 And we heard that not enough Bibles, 10,000, they'll rip a page out and get shared by 300 84 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,280 people, one page out of the Bible. 85 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:23,040 So then when after we dropped them off, our real mission now was to go into inner China 86 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:29,080 by train, 10 hours into inner China, sleeping on a plywood bunk. 87 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,760 It was not very comfortable. 88 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:37,520 And what was so unusual was going through the countryside, we could see those turtles, 89 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,000 those communist officials stationed every mile. 90 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,160 So as this trains just go on what a hundred mile an hour, I don't know, we just saw these 91 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:52,520 con just standing at attention and they do it all day long. 92 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,640 So that that was really something to watch that. 93 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:04,040 So we ended up in first inner city in China and we got a hotel, well, you can call it 94 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,640 a hotel, I guess, corrugated doors. 95 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Everything looked the same, really dirty town, feces and urine all over the roads and stuff, 96 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,080 a dirty country. 97 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,120 So anyways, our tracking, we had these tracks. 98 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,120 And if you don't know what track, it's a little gospel message, a little pamphlet that you 99 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,000 can not read. 100 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:33,600 And we had 600 of them at night, each one of us, 250 of us, we'd have 600 tracks at night. 101 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:38,280 The disguise that we would dress in had these built in pockets. 102 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:41,720 They bathe them here in the United States for us to wear over there. 103 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,040 So we stuffed them with tracks. 104 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:49,560 As we walked around from 11 at night to five in the morning, we would hook our arms together 105 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,440 like we were almost lovers. 106 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Nobody's going to bother, but they see two girls, you know, you're just asking for trouble. 107 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,080 So we just had to fake it as good as we could and just ignore it because we were on a mission 108 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,600 from God and there's God's protection of us. 109 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:12,440 We had to avoid manhole covers that were missing, guide bars that held up poles, you know, to 110 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,680 just cut your neck. 111 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:19,120 I mean, it was just dangerous in the dark, no street lights, you know, there. 112 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,920 So you're just taking your chances there. 113 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,520 So when we delivered those tracks, we'd put them on windowsills. 114 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,840 We could hear the people snoring inside in their beds. 115 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,320 We just laid on the windowsill, laid in their bicycle baskets, everything. 116 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,280 So when they'd wake up in the morning, there was Jesus everywhere and we'd be out of the 117 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,200 town by 5 a.m. 118 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:48,640 We were told what train station to go to, to take another train ride a few hours into 119 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:54,560 another inner city and we would do the same thing, 11 to 5 in the morning, 600 tracks 120 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,640 a night. 121 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:02,760 So we covered inner China with those tracks really good and we had to use code words also, 122 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:08,120 even though they didn't understand English, a lot of them, but we called God the boss 123 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,860 and we called the tracks the crumbs. 124 00:08:10,860 --> 00:08:15,240 So we kind of knew, you know, what we were all talking about there. 125 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,600 And then when our mission there was done, we were in there a couple weeks and when our 126 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:26,360 mission was done, this one particular hotel we were in, there was a town square outside 127 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,800 of it. 128 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:33,240 And there were people, another team group in the room next to us and we were told not 129 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,440 to talk about God. 130 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,280 Do not pray, don't do anything like that. 131 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:43,880 Communist country not open to the gospel or anything, but they had an English teacher 132 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:50,320 station down at the desk of that hotel to listen in to see if we were talking about 133 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,320 God. 134 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,920 Well, that the team next door to us, they were talking about God. 135 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,280 They came up and got them. 136 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,000 We heard all the noise going on, all the racket. 137 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,080 They dragged them out. 138 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:07,280 They took them down into that town square along with their luggage, the Bibles they had, 139 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,520 any their clothes, they lit them all on fire. 140 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:17,560 And made them watch all their belongings just be destroyed. 141 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:25,800 So we were heading home then, I guess a few days later and long, long trip home and we 142 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,240 landed in Chicago and we're walking through the airport. 143 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,240 And who did we run into? 144 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:39,120 But like six of those people that were next door to us are teammates and they just look 145 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,920 like drown rats. 146 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,080 I mean, they had been gone, no clothes. 147 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,800 They didn't even have any money. 148 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,640 So God took care of them to got them to Chicago and I'm sure they made it home. 149 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,640 Okay. 150 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,800 But that was a very interesting trip. 151 00:09:54,800 --> 00:10:00,600 How God protected us during the nighttime to females walking out. 152 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,400 And but we weren't scared. 153 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,520 We had no fear because we knew God was there to protect us. 154 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:13,240 So that is just one example of how He has protected me my whole life. 155 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:19,760 So when you brought 75 duffel bags full of 10,000 Bibles through Chinese customs, did 156 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,840 it one at any point did you start thinking this is nuts? 157 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,640 This is never going to work because this is a lot of duffel bags full of a lot of Bibles. 158 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,640 Right. 159 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,640 Like I would think you they're going to catch at least one of these. 160 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,640 Right. 161 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,240 You're moving in or maybe 25 of these, but 70. 162 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,240 Come on. 163 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:41,880 You're going to see your chances that you got 75 duffel bags and all looked identical. 164 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:48,280 I took a picture of them in my photo album, big pile of them and not one question asked. 165 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,600 You know, I've been in the military and I've done a lot of guard duty as a result and that 166 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,040 would never have flown. 167 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:00,280 You're trained to see certain things and like if you I have to look inside your bags, I 168 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,600 have to open your coat. 169 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:02,600 Let me see what's going on. 170 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,840 Like I have to know you can't come in here unless I check it. 171 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,240 I don't understand how you did that. 172 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,120 I don't understand how you got passed with 10,000. 173 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,560 I don't think I've seen 10,000 Bibles in one room. 174 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:16,240 They were heavy Christian bookstores. 175 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,840 I haven't seen 10,000 Bibles in a Christian bookstore, you know, and they told us that 176 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,960 God would give us supernatural strength that we're going to be able to carry those duffel 177 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:29,520 bags like they just have few clothes in them, not loaded with 100 Bibles. 178 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:34,920 So God gave us strength to just walk with those duffel bags like we were super people, 179 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,920 you know. 180 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,960 So that was another reason they never asked us. 181 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,760 It didn't look suspicious. 182 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,120 Look like we just might have had clothes in it. 183 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,120 Wow. 184 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,600 That's so incredible and that you had, I love the code words that you would call God the 185 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,920 boss and tracks with the crumbs. 186 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,400 And like I could see you guys, you know, giggling to each other is like, Hey, I dropped some 187 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:59,240 more crumbs off for the boss, you know, the changes to see you guys having a good time 188 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,240 with that. 189 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:07,520 How much fear not used specifically, but the team have being in a country that was so 190 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:13,880 openly opposed to any sort of Christianity. 191 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,920 How scared do you think the pulse was for the team, you know, were they all like you 192 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,840 like, we're got this, God's got this, or do you think some are like, I don't know, man, 193 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,920 I probably should have stayed home for this one. 194 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,400 Well, there might have been some people on that trip. 195 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:32,640 I never sensed it because I did, I wasn't sensing it, but I didn't see a look of fear 196 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,040 on anybody's face. 197 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Really. 198 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,040 I mean, I was excited. 199 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,040 You were on a mission. 200 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,840 I was on a mission for God. 201 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,840 Yeah. 202 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,360 I'm working for God's the best. 203 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,360 Yeah. 204 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,840 You got some wild adventures. 205 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:49,640 And so you said that you would ride like in a motorcycle at night. 206 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:50,640 Oh yeah. 207 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:51,720 Oh, okay. 208 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,200 Without street lights. 209 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,200 Without street lights. 210 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,200 Right. 211 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,560 We were lost. 212 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:02,920 Crystal and I got lost tracking one night and we saw lights way in the distance and I said, 213 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:03,920 let's head to those lights. 214 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,280 That could be a hotel or something. 215 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,280 So we did. 216 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,760 We walked and walked and voiding those manhole openings and everything. 217 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,360 So we ended up in this hotel. 218 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,200 Well, we go in, there's like three people, three young Chinese people behind the desk, 219 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,480 couple girls and a guy. 220 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,640 And they didn't understand us at all. 221 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,720 They're inner China. 222 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,280 They know no English at all. 223 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,600 And there's no Google translate back then. 224 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:28,600 No. 225 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,680 No, there was nothing. 226 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:33,160 So I motioned to them. 227 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,040 I mean, we needed to ride back to our hotel. 228 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,800 I didn't even know the name of the hotel. 229 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,000 It was all of them were covered with corrugated doors. 230 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,160 They all looked identical. 231 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:50,280 But when I gave a motion for a car, you know, steering a wheel, they had no idea what that 232 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,440 was. 233 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:57,120 But then I gave the motion of a motorcycle, you know, your right hand flexing the throttle. 234 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,320 Well, they knew exactly what that was because they all had motorcycles. 235 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,720 There are mopeds, scooters. 236 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,400 So they let me borrow. 237 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,760 In fact, it was the same kind of bike that I had back here in the United States. 238 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,200 It was a Zuki. 239 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,800 I knew exactly how to drive that bike. 240 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:19,720 So I get on that bike and I'm going through these inner towns in China at night in the 241 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:26,240 dark with crystal on the back, looking at all these corrugated doors, having no idea 242 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,160 which one was ours. 243 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,400 So you went off on the motorcycle, but Crystal stayed back at the hotel. 244 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,400 Yes, she did. 245 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,400 Okay. 246 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,940 So I did not find the hotel. 247 00:14:35,940 --> 00:14:40,600 So I said, well, I've got to go back to where Crystal is and get her. 248 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:45,760 So for some reason, I just remembered how to get back with her to her in that hotel. 249 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,560 So we didn't know how we were going to get back. 250 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,280 We didn't even know where we were. 251 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,440 So here we ended up calling Crystal's mother back in the United States. 252 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:02,240 She lived in Oregon and the Chinese people behind the desk let us call her. 253 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,160 And I think it was like in the middle of the night or something to her. 254 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,920 But anyways, a very long distance call. 255 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:08,920 Very long distance. 256 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:09,920 Yeah. 257 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:15,280 So, but she had the itinerary where we were staying in these different cities in China 258 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,280 and stuff. 259 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:22,600 So she had that information, we told her to call the Maryland Hickey office and let them 260 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:30,280 know and they somehow got a hold of everything and we're looking out the window of this hotel 261 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:37,280 and up pulls a cops and actually they were in a car and they had us get in the back seat 262 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,280 of the car. 263 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,760 We didn't know why. 264 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,600 But here they drove us back to the hotel. 265 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,520 What were the odds of that happening? 266 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:50,360 And we thank Crystal's mother and the Maryland Hickey Crusade for finding us in inner China 267 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,040 and taking us back safely. 268 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:58,000 And we thank God for just directing people, orchestrating everything that happened that 269 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,360 it just happened perfect to get us. 270 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,200 Nobody got injured on that trip. 271 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,800 Nobody got sick. 272 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,240 And well, people got deported, but they weren't hurt or anything. 273 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,480 They just lost everything they had brought with them. 274 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,720 But what a trip that was. 275 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:18,760 And so I was still on my way to do many more mission trips with that threat of adventure 276 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:19,760 in them. 277 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:25,520 So did you use that opportunity at that time when the turtles showed up to give you a ride 278 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,360 back to look over at the people that loaned you the motorcycle and then make the steering 279 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,840 wheel sign again and then point at their car so that you could educate them in the future, 280 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,000 that that was what you were talking about. 281 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,400 Because I seem like there's a missed opportunity if you didn't. 282 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,640 Yeah, maybe they just didn't see too many cop cars where they were. 283 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:44,640 That's good. 284 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,760 And that means they're not doing a lot of crime. 285 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:53,720 But that was a good thing because if you had missed that train ride, it was a 10 hour ride. 286 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,760 So that would have been a really big deal to miss that one. 287 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,760 Yeah. 288 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:57,760 And we were all separated. 289 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,240 We all went different ways tracking at night. 290 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:05,600 And you all had to come back to that specific hotel by five in the morning. 291 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,640 And we just prayed that everybody show up. 292 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,520 Because a lot of us floating out in those towns. 293 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,400 Did you guys go out two by twos? 294 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,400 Yes. 295 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,400 Hmm. 296 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,400 Yeah, two by two. 297 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,400 That's pretty interesting. 298 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,400 Sounds pretty biblical. 299 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,400 Yeah. 300 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,400 To go out two by twos. 301 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,640 To go preach in the gospel. 302 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,160 Essentially, two bunch of towns. 303 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,160 Yeah. 304 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,560 So tell us about the time and the Solomon Islands. 305 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:29,560 Okay. 306 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,880 Well, God sent me there three times and it's way in the South Pacific. 307 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,800 They're the Fiji Islands that I also went to in Vanuatu. 308 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,760 But the Solomon Islands, it's a group of a lot of islands. 309 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,680 And we went to this one and they all had chiefs on them. 310 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,040 And we went in dug out canoes. 311 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:57,800 And when we would pull up to the shoreline, the chief would come out followed by all 312 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,120 of his natives. 313 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:03,800 And some with spears and shields and swords and everything. 314 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,960 And but our missionaries, they knew their language there because they had been living 315 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,920 there in the Marshall Islands and the Solomons. 316 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,560 So they were saying that we were there to help out medically. 317 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,520 So we were setting the medical tents up. 318 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:23,160 Well, if you want to call them tents, but we had a medical cubicle. 319 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,040 We had a dental and we had an optical. 320 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:33,920 And the people would come and stand in line and tell us their complaint. 321 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,200 Well, of course, they're interpreters. 322 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:42,320 So the main mission behind those medical missions was we gave them free medicine. 323 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:47,560 And that always opened the doors to us to all these islands, all these countries that 324 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,560 I went to. 325 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,880 If you didn't have medicine, you weren't getting in. 326 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,880 And that to help their people, they were more than willing to open their doors. 327 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:02,160 So in the Solomons, we had those clinics in the different islands that we had. 328 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,760 When it came to the end of the Solomons of that particular mission, we were having a 329 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,040 big feast. 330 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,880 And there were oh, there was like six, seven hundred natives that came to them. 331 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:21,520 And we could see them coming over the horizon in their dugout canoes and all dressed in 332 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,000 their garb from their specific island. 333 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,840 They were just beautiful. 334 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,600 And so they all pulled up to this place where we were and we were going to have a feast. 335 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:37,480 Well, this feast consisted of, first of all, banana leaves laid all over the ground in 336 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,240 a great big spread. 337 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,480 On top of that, they throw rice down on top of those banana leaves. 338 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,640 On top of that, chunks of raw fish they throw in those banana leaves. 339 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,920 And then you eat it and you eat it with your hands. 340 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,880 There's no utensils over there or anything like that. 341 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,720 So you just scoop it up with their hands and eat it. 342 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,200 And people say, oh, I can't eat raw fish. 343 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,040 And well, yeah, you would. 344 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,680 You would eat it when you're hungry. 345 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,240 I ate dog brains. 346 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,440 I ate ostrich glands, monkey balls. 347 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,240 When you're hungry, you will eat it. 348 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:20,120 And now during that feast, after we had all eaten, we all lined up the medical team. 349 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:21,720 And I don't know. 350 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,800 Maybe there was 30 of us. 351 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,560 I can't remember the number. 352 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,520 But we all lined up because all these natives wanted to shake our hands. 353 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,040 So I'm just, and you know, you smile and say, God bless you. 354 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,880 They don't know what you're saying, you know, but a smile is universal. 355 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,200 So you just smiled and thanked them and everything. 356 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,440 So shaking hands, shaking hands, hundreds of hands. 357 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:50,040 And this one little native comes up to me and he puts some beads around my neck. 358 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,680 And I said, oh, thank you so much. 359 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:52,680 You're so pretty. 360 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,760 Thank you. 361 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,560 And just go on a couple hundred more hands and then another little native, he comes up 362 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,560 and he puts a string of beads on my neck and thank you. 363 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,920 This is so pretty, you know. 364 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:10,560 So after it was all over the missionaries are way in the back of this field. 365 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,440 So we're walking towards them and they said, Wendy, Wendy, come here. 366 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,840 So I go over and they go, they put it in my neck and those beads and they said, where'd 367 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:21,840 you get those? 368 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,760 I said, well, two little natives gave him to me back there. 369 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,280 They were, do you know what that means? 370 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,400 I said, well, no, what? 371 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,760 And they said, well, you just got married twice. 372 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,000 I said, married twice. 373 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,360 So I was sent back there. 374 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:42,640 God sent me back there a year later and I thought, wow, I might be able to meet my two 375 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,360 little husbands back there. 376 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:48,000 Well, one was kicked off the island and one disappeared. 377 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,160 So I never did meet my husband. 378 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,960 I said, I married over there probably to go look for you. 379 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,760 They couldn't keep up. 380 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,480 So you said there are six, seven hundred people and they came from different islands throughout 381 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,160 the group of these islands. 382 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,880 Did they all get along with each other? 383 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,880 Actually they did not. 384 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,080 There was like a civil war kind of thing going on between the islands. 385 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,080 Okay. 386 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:17,120 And so a lot of these people on the islands, they did not get along with each other. 387 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:20,960 So they had some drums and things like that. 388 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:27,720 And they were going to put on some shows for us, flaming swords and spears and you know, 389 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,400 just what you actually see on TV sometimes. 390 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:36,360 So we were just watching them do that and something drew me up out of my seat. 391 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:39,280 It was like God just pulling me up out of my seat. 392 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:44,760 I went to the middle of the floor and this little native, just as black as black could 393 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,720 be at a foot shorter than me and I picked him up. 394 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,680 I picked him up and held him like a football. 395 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,880 I can't believe I did that. 396 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,640 And I started dancing around with him. 397 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,280 Well, hundreds of people were laughing. 398 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,560 They thought that was the funniest thing they had ever seen. 399 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:10,480 I put him down and I was doing different dances we do here in the States and he was mimicking 400 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,600 me. 401 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:18,560 And I tell you what, the missionaries told me that it was even written up that through 402 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:26,160 that episode, that opportunity where they all got to laugh together over me. 403 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,160 Really? 404 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,160 That's okay. 405 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:36,320 And it just made a big difference in the islands and how they all got along because those missionaries 406 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:42,560 wrote to me after I got home and told me what a difference that made of me dancing with 407 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,720 that little native like a football. 408 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,880 So who would have ever thought that? 409 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,120 God uses all kinds of circumstances. 410 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:50,920 Yeah, happy feet. 411 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,920 Yeah, happy feet. 412 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:58,720 So you were compelled to dance and these people who had animosity for one another were joined 413 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:04,600 in laughter watching the antics of you carrying one of their own. 414 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,600 Right. 415 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,600 Yes. 416 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,320 And just having the time of your life. 417 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,320 Yeah. 418 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,320 Enjoying life. 419 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,840 And so what drew them to the island? 420 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Was it the medicine or was it just the feasts that they're going to have to send you off? 421 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,840 Like what drew them initially to that feast? 422 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,120 There is talk between the islands and everybody knew we were coming. 423 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:31,880 In fact, no matter where, what jungle we went to, always preplanned with a lot of advertising, 424 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:38,760 banners, people just telling people because they get free medicine, free glasses or free 425 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,440 medical help, free. 426 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,280 I get some teeth pulled that have been bothering them their whole lives. 427 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,840 I mean, they welcomed us. 428 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,840 Hmm. 429 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,400 Yeah, that sounds like it'd be beneficial. 430 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,400 Right. 431 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,560 That sounds very beneficial because, you know, in a primitive tribe, they don't have glasses 432 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,160 and they don't have dentists. 433 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,840 And I'm sure they have ways of dealing with tooth pain that isn't something that we would 434 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,840 recommend. 435 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Well, actually, right, when we would pull the teeth, we'd let them point to their three 436 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,720 worst teeth because there's hundreds of people in line. 437 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,360 We can only, we only have time to pull three. 438 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,560 So point to your three worst ones. 439 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,400 So they would do that and we would bring some Novikin out with a needle. 440 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,200 Well, they freaked out. 441 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,480 They'd never seen anything like that. 442 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,720 They had nothing for numbing. 443 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:33,400 Maybe they used drugs with crushed coral and roots of plants and rub it and it turns their 444 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,200 mouth orange and they think that that helps. 445 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,040 I don't know. 446 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,600 You weren't about to find out. 447 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,520 That worked or not. 448 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,520 Right. 449 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,920 So yeah, I was actually a dentist. 450 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,000 I was trained to be a dentist in those countries. 451 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:52,640 So, but when we gave them the Novikin, we asked them, they'd never experienced that 452 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,920 feeling and we said, let them let us know when it gets numb. 453 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,960 Well, they never, they don't know what that word numb even through a translator, but they 454 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,560 called it fat. 455 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,400 Their lips were fat. 456 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,720 So when they said they told us their lips felt fat, we knew they were numb. 457 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,000 So I'd get in there and boy, you got to have some muscles for those people. 458 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,200 The African teeth, long roots. 459 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,000 I mean, you got to be strong to pull them out. 460 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,560 Filipino teeth, just a little pool. 461 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,000 They come right out. 462 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:28,120 So it's somehow God created different teeth for different people all over the world. 463 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:29,120 Yeah. 464 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:30,120 Interesting. 465 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:32,400 I bet it has a lot to do with the diet that he gave them. 466 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,400 I bet. 467 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,400 Yeah. 468 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,600 And these people, a lot of them were fat and I guess it's eating all that rice. 469 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,400 You know, I mean, I hardly ate it all over there, but I did eat rice and I actually put 470 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,040 weight on when I came home. 471 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,440 And the rice was cooked. 472 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,440 It was cooked. 473 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,280 But they didn't know enough to cook the fish. 474 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,280 No. 475 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,200 They don't cook the fish. 476 00:26:53,200 --> 00:27:00,240 I said, you said that you said that you ate a lot of different weird foods, which, you 477 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,240 know, God clearly protected you from the different weird diseases that you can get from eating 478 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,800 raw and undercooked meat and whatnot worms that we don't have here. 479 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,880 And you said there was either better starve. 480 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,280 And I kept thinking to myself, I guess I'm eating Jesus because I would rather starve. 481 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,360 I would rather starve than eat monkey balls or dogs brain. 482 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:24,160 Like, I'm not, no, thank you. 483 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,560 And I understand this is very offensive to you, but I cannot do this. 484 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,560 I mean, no disrespect. 485 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,200 This is not going to happen. 486 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,680 I am not putting that in these lips. 487 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,840 Well, that's why God made me a missionary. 488 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,840 Yeah. 489 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,840 Absolutely. 490 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,840 Because I can eat anything. 491 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,840 I'm fearless. 492 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,840 I can do anything. 493 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,080 I mean, I was the perfect person to do that. 494 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,920 In the class I was healed and I could speak by testimony all over the world. 495 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,920 And I did. 496 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,320 I spoke in all countries. 497 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,040 I had interpreters. 498 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,240 So God used me in many different ways on those trips, not only medically, because I was a 499 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,520 paramedic, but because of my healing. 500 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,240 I'm glad you said that, that you were the perfect missionary. 501 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,440 I was. 502 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,160 Because you are an illustration of what the qualities would be. 503 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,160 Right. 504 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,320 I don't have a lot of fear for certain things, but I have a very delicate palate. 505 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,320 Right. 506 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,320 We'll put it mildly. 507 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,320 I don't need a lot of things. 508 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,960 And so I don't think I'd be a good fit. 509 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,880 I'm a good fit for most of it, but not all of it. 510 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,600 And I come back very skinny. 511 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,240 And what was really cool is he didn't start you on this until you were 48. 512 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,240 That's right. 513 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,120 I was healed when I was 48. 514 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:35,600 So to start out a mission field for 20 years, I did that until I was 68. 515 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:42,000 And I mean, working, I mean, most of the day in really hot, they were rugged trips. 516 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,560 So they were, oh, they were tough. 517 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,520 When I was reading the back of your book, it talks about you floating 400 miles down 518 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,080 the Amazon river on a cattle barge. 519 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,000 But one of the details you don't have on the back of the book is that the cattle barge 520 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,880 is attached to another boat with a piece of rope and there's nothing steering the cattle 521 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:01,880 barge. 522 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,760 And so you're at the mercy of it going wherever, hopefully following the boat that's pulling 523 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,080 it in the dark. 524 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,560 And then sometimes it ends up in branches and then you have snakes and tarantulas falling 525 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,880 down on you. 526 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,800 And then on the barge, you had tarps set up because it's a cattle barge. 527 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,360 And so you made walls of plastic. 528 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:28,920 And it was just, it was kind of comical about everybody run, take cover. 529 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:34,920 And the nationals, they made us all hammocks and we were able to, there's, I think, maybe 530 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,200 12 hammocks on that cattle barge and they strung them. 531 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,760 So, and when we ran into those trees, see, we had two captains of the boat. 532 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,800 Well, every time the one captain went to the bathroom, we wrecked. 533 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,120 So we wrecked twice on that, on that Amazon journey. 534 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:58,600 But when we would be fired, when we would hit that tree and all those tarantulas and 535 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:04,360 bugs and everything come down, we would all swing in unison in those hammocks. 536 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,160 Everybody ever got hurt, never got thrown off their feet because we were all laying. 537 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,080 It was in the middle of the night, we were traveling. 538 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,080 What a blessing. 539 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,760 Yeah, yeah, just swinging God's protection again. 540 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,760 Yeah. 541 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,400 A blessing having snakes and tarantulas fall on you while you sleep. 542 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,400 That's blessing. 543 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,400 Yeah. 544 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:25,080 And then at the bottom of the cattle, the cattle barge, there was all these slatted wood, the 545 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,720 whole length of it. 546 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,720 And when all of those rats and tarantulas and all that fell down, you could hear their 547 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,560 toenails under, you know, just running underneath those slats. 548 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,640 And we're up in our hammock, you know, safe, get your feet up off the ground. 549 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,880 But boy, we heard them all night running around in there. 550 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:44,880 But, you know. 551 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,160 You're lucky it wasn't a jaguar jumping out of that tree. 552 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,160 I know. 553 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,160 I probably would have taken it home. 554 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,160 I don't know about that. 555 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,760 I don't know if you got that one through customs. 556 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,760 Yeah. 557 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,680 Harder to hide than 10,000 Bibles, maybe. 558 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,680 Right. 559 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,680 Maybe not. 560 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,280 You seem to have a way about it. 561 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,920 God's really been kind of shielding you from the enemy. 562 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,920 Really? 563 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,920 And that's pretty amazing. 564 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,920 Amazing. 565 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:16,600 And, you know, accidents I've been in and I mean, just, I could just go on and on. 566 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,360 No, and I just feel really good. 567 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,440 I mean, I'm 75 now and I'm still trucking. 568 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,440 I'm still working for God and mission trips have slowed down a little bit. 569 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,040 We do have a lot of problems in our world, but we do know we're under God's protection 570 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,560 when we go on one of them. 571 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,600 But I feel like maybe I'm passing the mantle on a little bit. 572 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,280 Maybe somebody a little younger than me. 573 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,360 You know? 574 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,440 But now you can do different things for the kingdom. 575 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,440 I do. 576 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:50,680 And now the newest project God has you maybe working on is you're called to maybe put your 577 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,240 stories in a movie. 578 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,240 Right. 579 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,400 So now she's working on finding all the people to help her with that because who knows about 580 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,080 doing that without having done it before. 581 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,080 Right. 582 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,960 I've had like four different production companies from New York and LA and they're interested 583 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,120 in adapting my book into a movie. 584 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:16,080 But that's a lot for me because I don't know what I'm doing there. 585 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,480 I would need, well, first of all, a lawyer. 586 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,320 It's a five year contract. 587 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,120 Make sure you're getting a good deal. 588 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,120 Yeah. 589 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,120 Yeah. 590 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,400 I need a trailer made. 591 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,680 That's a few thousand dollars. 592 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,680 Get that trailer made. 593 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,400 Out there in LA. 594 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,960 But I need like a TV producer kind of person. 595 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,800 I could even use a secretary. 596 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,080 Even though I am one. 597 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,960 I could use one. 598 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,600 But yeah, there's a lot involved to it and I just can't keep up with all the emails right 599 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,600 now. 600 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,600 I'm doing the podcast. 601 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,000 So one step at a time. 602 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Yeah. 603 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,920 And maybe this podcast could be a prelude to that. 604 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,920 Yeah. 605 00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:00,400 And I've been on the 700 Club, so they got a clip of that. 606 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,640 You know, I couldn't show them that. 607 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:10,160 And also I filmed a lot of those mission trips with VHS, those recorders we had back 608 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,160 in the day. 609 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:20,800 So I got a lot of tapes showing me in refugee camps and bombs and helicopters and tanks. 610 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,800 And when I was in the Albania war over there at Kosovo, I tell you to be an American and 611 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,880 look at our tanks and our artillery and our Black Hawk. 612 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,880 I was so proud to be an American over there. 613 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,040 And it was just a wonderful feeling. 614 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,680 I mean, we were really pitching in over there. 615 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,560 So at zero point, you felt any fear in any of your trips. 616 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,920 So at no point, at any point, you were just always confident that God had you. 617 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,920 Yeah. 618 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,200 I mean, looking back, I can't thank you of anything I was really scared of. 619 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,520 I think that is why you weren't scared. 620 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:05,280 I think that's why God gave you his protection, because you had full faith in him. 621 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,480 You did not waver. 622 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,400 You know, in the book of James, it talks about how having no doubt when you have faith, 623 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,240 when you ask for something, you ask for it as if you're going to get it. 624 00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:17,640 You're a fetter about like a wave, right? 625 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,560 And I think that was you. 626 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,960 And I think that that is a direct result of your obedience to him. 627 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,640 Your faith in him is why you were called into missions, because he knew you would be faithful 628 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,840 in this. 629 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:35,040 And I think your childhood led up to that with the fearlessness that you had as a child. 630 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,920 And I think it takes a special kind of person to do missions trips and not just fearless, 631 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:46,360 not just an open pallet, not just a willingness to explore new things, but there's like, there's 632 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,120 more to it because you have to have compassion for people. 633 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,360 Otherwise, why are you doing it? 634 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,520 And so you are filling a whole list of things that God says, this is what I want from our 635 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,520 people. 636 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,560 And he said, when Jesus told us, hey, go out to all nations and make disciples, right? 637 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,560 Go everywhere. 638 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,720 And here you are going out there, bringing the word of God to everybody planting the 639 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:05,880 seed. 640 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,880 And that is a very difficult thing to do, especially in closed countries or hostile 641 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,720 countries, what I used to call before, we got the new closed country word. 642 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:15,440 And there's a lot of hostile countries. 643 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,440 A lot. 644 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,920 There's a lot, a lot of hostile countries that don't like it, which blows my mind that 645 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,000 people still think that the Bible is a fairy tale. 646 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,880 It's the only fairy tale that's illegal in 51 countries. 647 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,240 You know, you don't see Alice in Wonderland illegal in any countries. 648 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:36,440 You don't see any Cinderella illegal in any countries. 649 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,800 Like that's kind of, kind of should give you an idea that this might actually have some 650 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,160 weight to this book. 651 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,760 And you know, they were so anxious to receive a Bible. 652 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,680 And we had interpreters that used hand puppets. 653 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,720 And in fact, the puppet's name was Tito. 654 00:35:54,720 --> 00:36:02,040 And they had all the children gather around a circle and Tito would give the gospel message 655 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:08,520 to all these kids, young kids, teenagers, and here at the end, they would all repeat the 656 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,600 sinner's prayer after Tito. 657 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,360 So what a useful tool that puppet was. 658 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,640 So you know, water to take water in there. 659 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:23,920 In fact, I'm very much into contributing to water wells, because I've seen 3, 400 people 660 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,040 stand in line to get a little bucket of water. 661 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:33,200 And so they need more money to drill wells deeper. 662 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:39,480 So that since I experienced that for 20 years, I'm very much into the water. 663 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,280 You can't live without water. 664 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,080 So that's where my offerings go. 665 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,080 Cool. 666 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,920 Thank you so much for coming on again and sharing some of these stories. 667 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,480 They were amazing. 668 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,560 And I'm sure God will put just the right people in touch with you to make these movies possible 669 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,200 because then more people can know not everybody's going to read a book, but a lot of people 670 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,200 will watch a movie. 671 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,200 I'm one. 672 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,480 Yeah, definitely watch it before I read. 673 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,480 Obviously. 674 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,120 And to get ahold of me. 675 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,120 You have a website. 676 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,120 I do. 677 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,560 It's called madcatmissionary.com. 678 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,800 And you could just there's a link there that you can notify me and you can email me through 679 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:19,800 there. 680 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,360 So yeah, if you're ever interested in that, just let me know. 681 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,320 If you can't help directly and you know someone who can let her know. 682 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,880 Yeah, that would be amazing. 683 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,880 Right. 684 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:29,880 Because I'm vested now. 685 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,880 I want to see this movie. 686 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,880 Me too. 687 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,880 And I want to say take off. 688 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,320 So all you people listening, we really need some, you might, you could be a cameo or 689 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,320 someone. 690 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,640 Get y'all dressed up, you know, and. 691 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,080 Like the guy in the Marvel movies. 692 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,600 Yeah, like Stanley, little cameo in his own movies show up a little bit part. 693 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,400 One of the somebody working at a hotel or something. 694 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,760 I hope the best for it. 695 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,200 And I can't wait to see it. 696 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,840 I know that God has big plans for you. 697 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,840 I know he's already shown good big plans, but he's not done with you. 698 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,840 I guess not. 699 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,480 I guess not. 700 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:06,360 You know, I type in published books for pastors now kind of at a home job and not traveling 701 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,920 the world and millions and zillions of miles and but nope, he's not done with me. 702 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,240 Here I go again. 703 00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:14,720 I see it coming. 704 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:15,720 Awesome. 705 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:16,720 Yeah. 706 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:18,640 Better using me. 707 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:27,120 So thank you for listening and sharing your time with us and we have a fundraising campaign 708 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,000 that helps with our audio expenses. 709 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,280 So if you go to giftsandgo.com and look up God's goodness podcast, you can find us there 710 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:50,520 and we'll talk to you next time.