1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,960 Welcome to the God's Goodness podcast, where our mission is to encourage as well as highlight 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,400 God's Goodness and modern-day miracles. 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,080 We are your hosts, Josh and Shelly Hankins. 4 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:20,480 Today we have with us a very special guest to me. 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,360 I've mentioned her quite a few times on the podcast, at least two or three times in episode 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,360 one. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,640 She's a delight. 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,040 If you ever get to meet her, you'll be blessed. 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,200 Her name is Jen O'Donnell, and she's a Christian life coach. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,120 She has other titles that go along with her, but she's just a delight and a blessing. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,400 I hope you enjoy what she has to share with us. 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,440 I got a little taste of the story, and I was in tears reading about it. 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:54,800 I just can't wait to hear the Holy Spirit work through her with her story and be a blessing 14 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,320 to somebody else out there. 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,560 Like we usually do, I'm going to ask Jen to start us off with an opening prayer. 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,560 Wow. 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:08,520 I thank you, Father, Lord, that you are going to speak through me and speak through us through 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,720 these questions. 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:17,520 This podcast is, we talk about my healing journey because you showed up in so many ways. 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,800 It really is miraculous. 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,400 I thank you, Lord, for reaching the people that you have for this podcast, that you want 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:30,840 them to hear that you want to instill hope and build their faith in what you do and how 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,160 you work, Lord, in all the different ways. 24 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,160 I thank you, Lord. 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,640 I give you all the praise and all the glory for this podcast and what you are doing through 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:44,120 Shelly and Josh and how amazing this is to just spread the gospel and spread the word 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,360 and spread your goodness. 28 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,680 We thank you, and we praise you in Jesus' name, amen. 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,680 Amen. 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,680 Thank you. 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,240 I really do love sharing this story. 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,640 I have gotten through a lot of my coaching programs. 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:03,040 I actually walked through this journey starting in 2020, and I was meeting with a lot of women 34 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,080 and coaching them. 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,360 They actually got to experience my healing journey along with me. 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:17,280 I used a lot of this in my coaching with what they were going through. 37 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:23,880 I got to lead them and show them that when you are going through trials and suffering 38 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:31,280 and situations that God uses at all, and sometimes he, well, a lot of times he uses things that 39 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,000 are bad and he really does make them better. 40 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:43,840 He shows up in the bad, but a lot of times we get fixated on the bad things and we don't 41 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,640 see him work, right, or we forget. 42 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:53,120 So when I was starting writing out my story, I really got to see how many times there was 43 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:59,320 divine interventions that he just, like, I don't even understand how it came to be. 44 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:05,880 And so in 2020, I actually was having some health issues, and I had reached out to a 45 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,640 practitioner in Georgia, and here we are in Pennsylvania. 46 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:14,400 I needed to see somebody different, and some friends of mine had gone to this practitioner 47 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:20,120 in Georgia, great success with really interesting illnesses or diagnosis. 48 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,240 That's really odd because Pittsburgh is the place to find the best doctors. 49 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,600 So for you to go somewhere else, that's a pretty big deal. 50 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,000 Yeah, it was a pretty big deal. 51 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,200 It's totally out of my comfort zone. 52 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,200 Georgia. 53 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,200 Yeah, Georgia. 54 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,720 And so she uncovered some things going on with me, and then through a series of just 55 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,720 conversations. 56 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,200 So your connections are some amazing things because somebody connected me with a doctor 57 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:48,080 here that specialized in some things that I was going through, but not everything that 58 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,280 I knew I was going to walk through at the time. 59 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,320 And so I remember meeting with this nurse practitioner here in the Pittsburgh area, 60 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,620 and she uncovered some things with tests and labs and things like that. 61 00:04:00,620 --> 00:04:05,280 And I was going to her for something completely different. 62 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:12,600 But during one of our conversations, I started having some pain in my right side, my right 63 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,960 lower abdomen. 64 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,120 And so she sent me for an ultrasound, and on the ultrasound, I came back that I had 65 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,120 this cyst that was extremely large. 66 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,520 It had grown, it probably had been on me for a while because things don't just show up, 67 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,520 right? 68 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,640 But it was larger than my ovary. 69 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:35,880 And then my left ovary had multiple cysts because I was having hormone issues. 70 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,400 And so all these things were showing up. 71 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,080 And she was very concerned, she was like, you're probably going to have to have surgery. 72 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:47,480 Well, this is back in 2020 where we're having a massive pandemic, and people can't come 73 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,960 into the hospital with you. 74 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,480 And I'm thinking, I am not going into the hospital. 75 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,040 I'm not having surgery. 76 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,160 And I had other things happening, and I was not going in. 77 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,000 So I was freaking out, and I was like, I don't want this to happen. 78 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,680 Why is this happening to me? 79 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,440 I came in for something completely different, and here this showed up. 80 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,280 When I took a step back, I was really grateful that I was seeing this nurse practitioner 81 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:13,280 for something different. 82 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:16,360 Because had I not, I wouldn't have caught it. 83 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,880 And so when I get more into my story, that will make a significant difference of how 84 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,160 that happened. 85 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,000 But I kept getting ultrasounds. 86 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,800 And I remember picking up a book from my mom, it was like your healing wellness, and it 87 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,520 was 10 days of a spiritual action plan to help you heal. 88 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,080 And I had held on that to that book for months. 89 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,760 Didn't read it, didn't use it. 90 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:46,040 And I remember the doctor told me to go to get an ultrasound, and I came home, I picked 91 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:51,360 up that book, and I looked at my calendar to see when I was scheduled for that ultrasound. 92 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,760 And it was scheduled exactly 10 days later. 93 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,840 So I would literally walk through this book for the next 10 days and finish the 10th day 94 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:01,960 on the day I had to go back to the ultrasound. 95 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:02,960 Wow. 96 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:08,120 I mean, I've had health issues most of my life, and they've just randomly come up. 97 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:14,280 And so, you know, prior to this, I had been watching different pastors talk about how 98 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,480 God heals and believing him for healing. 99 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:23,280 And so that had like, I had started consuming things and understanding things that I didn't 100 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:24,280 prior. 101 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:28,760 So I had some knowledge, but it was really cool walking through that health book and 102 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,680 learning what scripture says on healing, and it really built my belief. 103 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:38,680 And I plugged into people and listened to testimonies of like people going through way 104 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,680 more serious things than me, and they were healed. 105 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,360 They didn't have any medical intervention, and I'm a former nurse, so I'm okay with 106 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,440 medical intervention, but I know there's other ways. 107 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:55,960 And so, you know, I get that ultrasound and the doctor calls me, the nurse practitioner, 108 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,280 she calls me a couple of days later, and she's like, okay, so the left side is everything 109 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:04,720 that was on there, it was multiple cysts are gone. 110 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,000 But the right side looks horrible. 111 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,680 And I remember getting off the phone with her, and it was like, this is awful because 112 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,000 once again, she mentioned surgery. 113 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,960 And I had to take a pause and it was like, hold on, she said the left had nothing left 114 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,280 on it. 115 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:21,280 But the right did. 116 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,520 And I understand from a medical standpoint, your focus on the issue. 117 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,800 So she had to focus on what was still happening, right? 118 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,640 But I had to pause and I had to realize like, God actually healed me because I didn't do 119 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,600 anything other than read this book and believe that he would heal me. 120 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,840 And so that was like one thing that was just amazing that happened. 121 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,880 But you were in the word really deep in those 10 days. 122 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:48,880 Oh man. 123 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,160 I consumed it. 124 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,760 I had no time of the day that I could read scripture. 125 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:59,000 Like I was actively praying over things, reading scripture, believing it. 126 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Shelly, you talk like a lot about mindset and you know, whatever you put in is what 127 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,200 you get out. 128 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,440 And so like it was just all consuming. 129 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,440 I had scripture written on my soul. 130 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Yeah, I had it written on my bathroom mirror. 131 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:19,240 I had posted notes all over my house because you have because the enemy comes and says, 132 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,240 you're never going to be healed. 133 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,800 This isn't going to work. 134 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,960 And so you have to feed yourself all the time. 135 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:25,960 Right. 136 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:26,960 I have a question. 137 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,800 You said that they focused on the right because that's where the issue was. 138 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:37,800 But as a former nurse, wouldn't you at least question the patient on what they did or what 139 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,480 they were doing that would cause? 140 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,400 Because to me, I work in EMS. 141 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,200 My question would be immediately, well, would you do different that the one side is clear 142 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,920 when it looked ugly before? 143 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:53,400 And now it's just once like, like that is pretty phenomenal from any standpoint, religious 144 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,480 or scientific standpoint, that's a phenomenal finding. 145 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,840 And I would want to know like, were you eating healthier? 146 00:08:58,840 --> 00:08:59,840 Was it like asparagus? 147 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:00,840 Did you detox? 148 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,840 Like what's going on here? 149 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,560 That's a true because this was my second ultrasound. 150 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:08,120 So my first one found everything. 151 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,280 This was my second one. 152 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,480 And then I eventually had another one and they were not too far apart. 153 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:19,360 I would get them like I was in every month for every two months for a lab's ultrasound. 154 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,400 It was like continuous monitoring of me. 155 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,880 So I don't even know. 156 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,320 Yeah, it was crazy. 157 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,720 Like I said, I had to take a pause and I asked her a second time, like, are you sure? 158 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,520 Like, is this what actually did you see? 159 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,840 And she confirmed it. 160 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,120 So, but yeah, that's incredible. 161 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,120 Yeah. 162 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,840 That would not have been my first focus. 163 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,840 Yeah. 164 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:41,840 Yeah. 165 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,160 I think it's ugly over there, but still, let's talk about this one over here. 166 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,520 Yeah, no. 167 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,680 So because of that, after that, she was really concerned of how large that cyst was and that 168 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:56,320 it wasn't shrinking and that I could have to have surgery. 169 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,800 She ended up sending me to an oncologist because she was concerned for cancer because 170 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:02,800 of that. 171 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:08,080 And so I went to this oncologist, really amazing doctor. 172 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:14,160 And I remember the same thing, like I was in the word, but I was still seeking. 173 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:20,080 And I remember reading some different things and people talking about how in the Bible, 174 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,720 sometimes you like have like a handkerchief or, you know, a cloth or something and somebody 175 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,840 has the spiritual gift of healing. 176 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,600 And just by getting it in the mail or touching it, you are automatically healed. 177 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,920 And so I was like, oh, wait, maybe is there a local pastor that operates in the gift of 178 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,840 healing that believes this because most of the pastors that I would listen to were not 179 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,680 in Pennsylvania, were not in Pittsburgh. 180 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:52,080 And so I happened to reach out to a pastor that was about 30 minutes away from me and 181 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,520 called and spoke to the secretary and I said, do you do healing services? 182 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,560 And she was like, wait a minute, what are you talking about? 183 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:04,400 I said online, it says that you do healing services and you, you know, you have the cloth, 184 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,200 you could mail and things like that. 185 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,120 And she was like, where does that say that? 186 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,520 No, we don't. 187 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:16,160 And then she ended up calling me back and I, because I told her my situation and she said 188 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,120 the pastor actually would like to meet with you. 189 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:25,440 And so I went in and I talked to him and I sat there for two hours and he told me the 190 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,200 most incredible stories of healing. 191 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,840 His son had major complications when he was born with his heart and he was healed. 192 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:40,440 His daughter actually fell from, and he, he has a book, he wrote a book, but his daughter 193 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:45,880 actually fell from the second floor story of their house, like off the deck and you'll 194 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,440 think this is amazing. 195 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,880 And he never took her to the hospital. 196 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,400 She was bleeding out of her eyes, never talked to, took her to the hospital. 197 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:57,480 He started bringing tongues over her and held her and then put her to bed and she got up 198 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:03,360 within a couple of hours, walked to his bedroom and within a couple of days she was fine. 199 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,240 He poured the scripture and showed me the scriptures that talked about healing and then 200 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,840 he poured stories into me. 201 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:17,400 And so for two hours, it was like the Holy Spirit was like holding me down and just pouring 202 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,400 all of this into me. 203 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,480 It was the most amazing thing I've experienced. 204 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,360 And then two weeks later, you know, after that, I woke up in the middle of the night 205 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,640 and I was having this severe pain. 206 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,240 It was horrendous and thought it was something else that was going on. 207 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:38,760 I didn't even think about my right side because it was just all over me in my stomach. 208 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,280 And so I like waited it out. 209 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,040 I'm very stubborn with health things sometimes and I waited it out and I was like, told my 210 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,120 husband I can't take it anymore. 211 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,320 This Tylenol is not doing anything to me. 212 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,560 I've got to go to the hospital. 213 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:55,880 Like I don't know what's going on, but something severe is happening in my body. 214 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:02,000 And he took me to the hospital and it was insane because I was shaking because the pain was 215 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,720 so severe. 216 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:09,480 And they did another ultrasound and it came back and crazy enough, they could not find 217 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,120 anything going on on the ultrasound. 218 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Like they didn't see anything. 219 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:21,120 And so they were actually going to send me home and I would have went home, but the pain 220 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,120 was so severe. 221 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,440 I was like, this is worse than childbirth times 20. 222 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,960 I won't make it if I go home. 223 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:34,520 And so at the hospital, turns out this, the oncology surgeon that I had been seeing didn't 224 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,040 go to that hospital. 225 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:42,640 So I had to be ambulance transported to a hospital inside Pittsburgh and it was taking 226 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,640 a long time. 227 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:44,960 They had things to do. 228 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,280 So I was waiting there for three hours and they were pumping me through full of meds. 229 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:56,600 I was at the hospital for nine hours, no TV on, my husband in the room. 230 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,960 We were talking a little bit here and there. 231 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:04,560 My grandma actually ended up in the emergency room, a couple, a couple, you know, things 232 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:09,320 down and I got to see her before she left and went into the hospital. 233 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:15,360 And I had like this incredible piece, my prayer group, my prayer organization, they were my 234 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,160 wellness organization that I'm with. 235 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,400 They were praying over me and I had this piece, no TV. 236 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,400 I wasn't doing anything. 237 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,920 I wasn't on my phone, but it was just incredible. 238 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,080 I wasn't fearful. 239 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,960 I was like, whatever they need to do is whatever they do. 240 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,920 Did you have that piece the whole time or was there a certain point where you realized 241 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,520 it like, you know, hey, I should be feeling some different way, but I'm not. 242 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,240 Yeah, I would say I had it the whole time. 243 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Awesome. 244 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:44,120 I had it the whole time and the ambulance ended up coming to pick me up late at night 245 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,120 and they transferred me to the next hospital and the attending physician was trying to 246 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,120 figure out what to do. 247 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,220 They were like, should we take you to surgery? 248 00:14:51,220 --> 00:14:52,800 Should we wait it out? 249 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,320 And they were on the phone with the surgeon. 250 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,320 So they just made a decision. 251 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,920 They were like, we're going to assume this ruptured and we're going to take you to surgery. 252 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,480 So at midnight, here I'm having surgery. 253 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,360 I went, waited, I had severe pain in the morning. 254 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:11,480 That morning was the Sunday and at midnight on Sunday or Monday morning, I'm going in 255 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:18,440 for surgery, then I was a little nervous, but woke up and turns out I had ruptured 256 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,600 and it twisted my ovary and cut off the circulation. 257 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,600 So my ovary died and I was full of blood. 258 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,080 Like it would have been terrible to go home. 259 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,760 But my ultrasound in the hospital was they couldn't see any of that. 260 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,240 Couldn't see the rupture. 261 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:39,360 Couldn't see anything going on, which is the oddest thing, but it's just miraculous. 262 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,720 Especially without much internal bleeding. 263 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:42,720 Yeah. 264 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:43,720 Yeah. 265 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,200 I had like a pop can full of blood in me. 266 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:52,800 It's just like I was literally when I look back, I was protected the whole time because 267 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,240 that situation could have gotten really scary, could have gotten really bad. 268 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,760 They could have sent me home because they did give me the option, but and I would have 269 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,920 went, but the pain was so severe. 270 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:09,320 So I always, when I take a look back, I think sometimes when we go through these bad things, 271 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,280 sometimes it's like that wake up call and you need it to be so bad because you'll do 272 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,000 something that'll prevent you from that protection. 273 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Right. 274 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,320 And then all the ways God just showed up, right? 275 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:26,080 He aligned me and moved me towards that pastor who I would never have met and he would never 276 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,600 report all that into me. 277 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,480 Reading that book that I had for months that I never even opened and then I opened and it 278 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,960 was 10 days later, I had my ultrasound in that left sided healing. 279 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,400 So it was just incredible how he showed up so many. 280 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:46,320 I pulled like there was like five divine interventions in those two years of my healing. 281 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,920 You know, it's incredible when you consider that your left side was healed, but the right 282 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,280 side wasn't. 283 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:58,960 And then you had a rupture that gave you like an ovarian twisting that actually you lost 284 00:16:58,960 --> 00:16:59,960 the ovary. 285 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:00,960 Yeah. 286 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:01,960 And it wasn't the good one. 287 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:02,960 Yeah. 288 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:03,960 Right. 289 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,680 And it's like he had a plan for you that said, I'm going to preserve the one that I know 290 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,600 is going to be preserved tomorrow. 291 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,520 And that's, you know, obviously it's God's foresight, not mine, but I would never have 292 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,880 thought that kind of a plan. 293 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,800 He allowed certain things to happen, but he didn't allow you to suffer twice. 294 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,680 And I think that's so amazing. 295 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,160 And he allowed you to grow in faith with him. 296 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,680 I think it was at Romans 828. 297 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,360 You mentioned at the beginning of it how he works all things for his good. 298 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:34,800 And I pulled this up in the NIV. 299 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,600 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been 300 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,880 called according to his purpose. 301 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:46,200 I love hearing how upbeat you are about that because that's scary. 302 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:51,320 And for you to have that kind of peace, we've experienced peace through storms. 303 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,080 And so we know what it's like to have that, but neither one of us has had a health scare 304 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,240 like that to experience that peace from. 305 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,120 And that is such an incredible story. 306 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:03,760 And I hope that really encourages people to lean more into God, to lean more into trusting 307 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,800 Jesus, that they could also have that peace because he is the Prince of Peace. 308 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,200 And he is who we are joy from. 309 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,520 So I have a lot of joy, not so much today. 310 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,920 You know, I worked like we said 24-hour shift. 311 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:21,200 And so I'm a bit on the struggle bus today, but normally I'm pretty joyful with interactions 312 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,000 with lots of different people. 313 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,280 And so I can only credit that to Jesus. 314 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,400 And you're very warm, you're very sincere, you're very genuine. 315 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:34,160 I think that is a directly result of your relationship with Jesus. 316 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,440 And that's all he wants, right? 317 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,560 He wants that intimacy with you. 318 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,640 He wants that relationship with you. 319 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,880 He wants you to come to him through everything, no matter what happens. 320 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,880 Right? 321 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,280 So it's that no matter what happens, peace. 322 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,280 The good and the bad. 323 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,080 Oh yeah, I don't know what I would do in my life right now if I hadn't known the love 324 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:00,160 of God or the different intimate moments that I've had with him and the healings that we've 325 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,000 experienced in our lives. 326 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:08,520 And you've actually encouraged me by the way you sought healing, by the way that you were 327 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,400 believing in healing through the Word and through a pastor who is building you up through 328 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,040 experiences that he had had. 329 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:21,760 And it encourages me that before I lay on hands that I would do the same and reciprocate 330 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,280 and pour into them all the healings that I have seen him do. 331 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,440 And I feel that that's pretty important because that was important for you. 332 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,240 And I know that we're not alone. 333 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,080 So I know that has to be important for others. 334 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,360 So I really appreciate that part of your story that really speaks volumes to me. 335 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:41,000 I don't know about anybody else, but it definitely does me. 336 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,320 I have a question. 337 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,440 How did you find that pastor if the lady says it wasn't on the website? 338 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,080 Like what you were, and where was that? 339 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:56,240 Yeah, so I was googling about pastors that understood healing and believed in healing. 340 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,640 You know, not everybody believes that God heals. 341 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,000 And put it on websites. 342 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,400 Yeah, it was not on their website. 343 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,960 It was like another website that had them on there. 344 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,520 So I called like, I'm telling you completely out of my covered zone. 345 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:15,080 I was like, I'm doing anything and everything because I know he heals. 346 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,800 So I called and I talked to the secretary and she was like, that's not right. 347 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:24,360 We believe in that, but we don't do healing services where you can come and they'll lay 348 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,720 hands on you. 349 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,400 You know, that's also kind of gives me an idea for healing services. 350 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,520 There's obviously a need for it. 351 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,240 I honestly feel that most people don't do it because they're afraid that God won't answer 352 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,240 it. 353 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,280 And they're afraid that they won't be healed or they're afraid to look like a fool, which 354 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,040 is silly because how can you ever look like a fool in front of your king? 355 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,040 Right. 356 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,680 You know, to keep that positive mindset and to remember that you can't impress God with 357 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,240 a gift he's given you. 358 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,240 That's crazy. 359 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,240 Like, God, look what I can do. 360 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,040 It's like, I know, I'll give it to you. 361 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,120 It's from him, right? 362 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:00,640 It's not from us. 363 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,640 Yeah. 364 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:08,080 So that one part reminded me of my Bible verse of the year, Matthew seven, seven and eight. 365 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,400 Seek, find, you know, knock and you'll find everything you're seeking. 366 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,400 Yeah. 367 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:20,920 So you saw it out and went after it and he's like, I got this every step of the way. 368 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,920 Every step of the way. 369 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,420 So cool. 370 00:21:23,420 --> 00:21:25,920 And I was listening to this video. 371 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:34,720 It was probably a TikTok and it mentioned that the when God showed up for a Shadrach 372 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,440 Meshach and a Bendigo, they were talking about that at Sunday church too. 373 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,520 I've listened to the story a few times and I've had a few lessons from it. 374 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:49,920 But the one was God showed up when they were in the fire, you know, the deepest parts, 375 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,520 you know, like the hardest parts. 376 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,840 Well, it's, I think it's important to note that he didn't just show up when they're 377 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,560 in the fire, but he made his presence known when he was in the fire. 378 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,560 Because if some of the strongest guards died throwing him in and they didn't die getting 379 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,080 thrown in, then he was clearly there for him when they didn't realize it. 380 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,840 And I think that's important to note that God is with us, even if we don't see his presence. 381 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,840 Right. 382 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,720 Because it's only a matter of time before we're walking in the fire with him, like, 383 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,720 Hey, you're here. 384 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,200 He's like, I'm the one to help you in. 385 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,200 I want to make sure you didn't get cooked on the way to it. 386 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,680 I love that too. 387 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,680 Yeah. 388 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,680 So good. 389 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,360 So a question for you, Jen. 390 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:33,160 You said you've had multiple health issues throughout your lifetime and you clearly really 391 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,600 sought the healings of Jesus later in this lifetime. 392 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:44,000 How hard was it for you to get on board with healing through faith after you've already 393 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,240 struggled from whatever age you started your health journey till now? 394 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,000 I would say it was not hard. 395 00:22:52,000 --> 00:23:01,320 I've been growing with God definitely in the last like 11, 12 years growing like intentionally. 396 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,320 Right. 397 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:07,760 And so because of that, I have, and especially in the last like three years, I've gotten 398 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:14,320 super hungry for the word and really what people are missing. 399 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:20,960 And so I started seeking things and it's funny because my family travels and we'll go camping. 400 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,200 And you know, when we go camping, my mom always has these incredible books on faith. 401 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,720 And so I consume. 402 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,800 And so I always say like when we go camping, like it's fun and it's family time. 403 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,440 But that's like my spiritual growth time. 404 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,760 And when I'm in nature, that's where I experience God. 405 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:44,160 And that's where he's talked to me and told me some of the most like incredible things 406 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,880 that he wants us to know of how to walk with him, right? 407 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,840 Your authority and healing. 408 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,160 And that's where he's spoken to me most is when I have been away, right? 409 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,120 And I just have that time. 410 00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:57,360 So yeah, it wasn't hard. 411 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:02,960 Like I was laying the foundation for a couple of years and then when this happened, I just 412 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,680 knew to pick it up, right? 413 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,160 And to start seeking, which is something I didn't do when I was younger. 414 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,720 I didn't even think really to do this, right? 415 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,560 But I didn't have anything happen like this either. 416 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,920 But I'm very thankful. 417 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,680 Like I was intentional and growing and hungry, right? 418 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,120 Sometimes people aren't hungry enough for the word or for seeking God. 419 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:31,320 They're just kind of lukewarm, right? 420 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,400 We've been learning about revelation in the churches. 421 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,120 Sometimes you're lukewarm and God doesn't want you to be lukewarm. 422 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:38,840 He wants you to be hungry. 423 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,120 He wants you to come to him and seek him. 424 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:44,880 And so laying that foundation was huge for me. 425 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:45,880 Awesome. 426 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,760 So currently, do you have any health issues that you need prayed for? 427 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,920 I mean, I could always use prayer. 428 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,840 I mean, there are still things I'm waiting for on, you know, on healing. 429 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,880 So but comes with time sometimes too. 430 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,120 Oh, absolutely. 431 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:01,120 It's amazing. 432 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:04,600 Would recommend to have the hands laid and prayers answered. 433 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,840 And you know, since we wrap it up, I'm more than willing to go through that. 434 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,120 I'm definitely down. 435 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:13,120 Life at Chirngune. 436 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:20,440 Yeah, that was the lane of hands when we had him pray over my neck and shoulders and 437 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:26,640 then my ankle and then Nathan and other people's bodies. 438 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,960 So that was that was good too. 439 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,440 So God shows up everywhere all the time. 440 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,440 Yeah, even when you don't want him to. 441 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,440 Yeah. 442 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,760 Yeah, sometimes we just don't look for him. 443 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Something I've realized is sometimes I think we miss things that he's doing, right? 444 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,960 We're caught up in whatever we're going through or what we're seeing, right? 445 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,280 The reality of what we're seeing. 446 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,240 And so we get caught up in that and we miss things. 447 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:58,520 And then, you know, sometimes you take a step back and you start to see things and how he's 448 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,520 working. 449 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,880 So I like that one word intentional, you know, you were intentional about it, not just have 450 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,880 passively taking in the word. 451 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,560 He's very faithful, more faithful than we are. 452 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,680 And even if we're not intentional, he's still with us. 453 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:21,120 But I see that we have the greatest potential for growth when we are intentional, when we 454 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:27,920 are diligently seeking him, that we are making it about our hunger for him, for our knowledge 455 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:34,720 of him, for doing what his will is, which means we'd have to be in the word to understand 456 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,840 what his will is. 457 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,920 Not that any of that is what saves us, that it is totally a foundation on believing in 458 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:47,800 his son who died for us, but it is a good way to get godly thoughts and to get closer 459 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,920 to Christ through obedience. 460 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,520 You know, we've heard the five love languages. 461 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,920 I believe God operates in the sixth. 462 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,360 And I believe his love language is obedience. 463 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:04,800 And not because he demands things from us, but because he wants just the best for us. 464 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:10,400 And when we violate one of his commands, he ends up usually hurting us or another one 465 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,200 of his people, and he doesn't want that for us. 466 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,840 And it's not because he doesn't want to have fun. 467 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,880 It's not because he doesn't want us to joke around. 468 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,920 It's not because he wants to be oppressive or mean or, you know, worship me or else. 469 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,880 You know, it's never been that kind of relationship with him. 470 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,600 And I really feel bad for people that don't understand who God is because of Christians 471 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,400 who misrepresented him. 472 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,240 And I would like to encourage anyone listening that is not a Christian now, but has heard 473 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,200 of God, but believes certain things about him because of a person that told you, let 474 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,400 me be the first to tell you that God is not defined by people very well and that he is 475 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,720 a class above what we can even be cognizant to speak. 476 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:57,040 That he is love and he is patience and he is long suffering and he is kind and gracious. 477 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,680 And, you know, it's because of his love for us, not because of anything we did, but because 478 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,520 of his love alone that we had a way for salvation that he gave his only son for us. 479 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,280 I for one, I'm very grateful for that. 480 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,200 And I'm very sorry if anyone has ever been hurt by a person who misrepresented or was 481 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,960 so bent on one sin being more offensive than another sin and drove someone away from the 482 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,960 arms of love. 483 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,840 And he really does. 484 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,160 He comes after you, right? 485 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,920 Because he loves you so much. 486 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:29,760 So even if you mess up, he constantly wants to come after you to seek you. 487 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,680 All you have to do is just kind of relax, you know? 488 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,600 So I mean, all through the Bible, that's all he is doing every time the Israelites messed 489 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,600 up. 490 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,520 He went to seek them again and again, you know? 491 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:50,720 And so there's a lot of freedom when we follow the ways of God because he's wanting us to 492 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,800 have freedom and, you know, it's not the opposite, right? 493 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,800 So. 494 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,440 He laid that foundation out in the garden, right, when he saw Adam and Eve after they 495 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,120 were hiding from him. 496 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,760 And he knew what they did. 497 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,200 And I'm a hard learner. 498 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,080 Like when people ask the best way I learned, it's the hard way. 499 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,400 And if it wasn't for God constantly coming back to me and constantly turning around to 500 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,040 see, you know, hey, catch up, what's going on? 501 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,280 I would not have what I have. 502 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,680 I would not have any of the thoughts that I have. 503 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,320 I wouldn't have any of the beliefs that I have. 504 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,040 But if it wasn't for him nurturing me, there have been many times where I felt undiscipled, 505 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:31,600 where God literally stepped in himself and discipled me through lessons, through experiences 506 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,680 that without which I could not have grown. 507 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,120 And so he personally discipled me. 508 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,680 And I am so grateful because, again, I learned the hard way. 509 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Mm-hmm. 510 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,040 Yeah, lessons and experiences. 511 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,560 That's how we, I mean, that's how we learn. 512 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,560 That's how we change. 513 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,280 Otherwise, why are we going to change? 514 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,120 You know, why would we grow if you didn't want something more? 515 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,120 Mm-hmm. 516 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,200 I've wanted a lot of more this year. 517 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,520 And you've been very intentional. 518 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,520 I have been. 519 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,440 I told my boss, I'm like, I'm making goals and I'm crushing them this year. 520 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,040 So we're working on it. 521 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,520 Set up the Etsy shop. 522 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:13,000 So that's going to be going and being open and released soon once I get the details ironed 523 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000 out. 524 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:19,920 So thank you so much for coming on tonight and being with us and sharing your story is 525 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,600 just such a great testimony. 526 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,360 And I hope it's a blessing to others. 527 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,200 And if this episode has been a blessing to you listening, I pray that you share it with 528 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,920 others and, you know, if any of the podcasts are. 529 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:40,440 And also, if you could say some prayers for donations and downloads, we're hoping that 530 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,800 we spread the word. 531 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,480 And also, if you are able to give financially, we have a GiveSendGo account called God's 532 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:53,240 Goodness podcast, and, you know, you could help us pay for the audio editing because 533 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,200 that's not a thing that I. 534 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,200 It's not your gift. 535 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,200 It's not. 536 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,480 It does not bring me joy. 537 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,760 So if you could help us with that, that would be a great help and we would greatly appreciate 538 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,760 it. 539 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:18,280 Thank you for listening and we'll talk to you next time.