1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,300 Hi, and welcome to the In the Cortex podcast. 2 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:10,300 We are your hosts. 3 00:00:10,300 --> 00:00:11,640 I'm Paloma Garcia. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,680 And I am Dani Perrecone. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,600 And we're the founders of In the Cortex, an online community with programs that show people 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,520 the tools that they need to change their lives through brain reorganization. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,920 No medication, just movement. 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,120 When you get your brain out of survival mode and regulate your nervous system, you start 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,160 to live in the fun, logical part of the brain, the cortex. 10 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:36,520 Subscribe today and learn how to live your best in the cortex life. 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,720 And now on to today's episode. 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,240 Hi, and thank you so much for listening to the podcast. 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,080 Today we have an extra special episode for you. 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,440 This is a collaboration that we did with Christiana Dyckman from APA, the Association for Pre- and 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Perinatal Psychology and Health, and Carlton Terry, who is a world-renowned baby therapist 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:57,840 and author. 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,880 It's such an amazing conversation. 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,500 And it's coming up right before their birth psychology month, which is going to take place 19 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:05,500 in March. 20 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:09,800 So if you want some more information, please go to birthpsychology.com and please listen 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,280 to this amazing episode. 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,880 We know that you're going to get some really great insight from it. 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Thanks. 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,880 Oh my gosh. 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,880 Welcome. 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:17,880 This is great. 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:25,000 I have some really some of my favorite people today and I'm going to introduce you all. 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,480 And then we're going to get started with our topic, which we were just flowing on before 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:35,320 we hit record on this, which is about how having a happy kid or happy kids is a happy 30 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:36,900 family. 31 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:42,680 And I know there's always the saying that it's mommy's happy, everyone's happy. 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:49,720 So now you realize there's this symbiotic relationship that's happening. 33 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:55,960 And here I am today with Carlton Terry, who has been working in and around the pre-imperianatal 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,080 sciences for 30 years plus Carlton. 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Yeah, forever. 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,640 It's true. 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:09,240 And you specialize in, I want to say like decoding babies. 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:14,120 Like you've worked with some of the top psychologists. 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:20,600 You've trained with a number of people who have been in the pre-imperianatal psychology 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:26,480 world and you really know how to read the cues of babies. 41 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:33,120 And you've learned how their journey that has brought them here to life has all sorts 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,760 of pit stops or stations along the way. 43 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,120 Like they live a whole universe before they're even born. 44 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,080 Yeah, they do. 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:50,680 And it's so important because now we're here with Danny Paracone and Paloma Garcia. 46 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:57,520 And these two lovely gals are the leaders in this amazing movement with neuro sequential 47 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,400 development, which is a big word. 48 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,160 And they call it in the cortex, their company. 49 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:12,240 And you help parents and families basically reorganize their brain from things that have 50 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:21,160 gone on during this universe of time that's lapsed with children when they are conceived. 51 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:30,280 And we as a world really are blind or maybe we just haven't, the layers haven't been taken 52 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:37,720 off for us to see all the things that go on in the room space and in the family space. 53 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:45,840 But yet we now know with neuroscience, epigenetics and all sorts of psychology and somatic based 54 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:53,400 therapies that this is the most important time of your life is the first thousand days. 55 00:03:53,400 --> 00:04:00,440 And we don't even see or really personally know our children at that time, but yet it's 56 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,040 the foundation. 57 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:10,200 So I want to give each of you time to maybe tell a little bit about yourself and how all 58 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,920 of us got here together. 59 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:17,000 I know I'm the director of education at APA, which is an organization that promotes the 60 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:23,480 awareness of how this time in the womb is like the most important thing for not only 61 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:29,720 a child, but for our world and our relationships and our social structures. 62 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:36,480 And that's what we're going to unpack a little bit today is how all of us help bring this 63 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:42,480 awareness to the world and how we've come up with amazing techniques to really help 64 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,640 families thrive. 65 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:51,000 So I don't know who wants to take it away from here and talk a little bit. 66 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,680 I mean, I can go first. 67 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,760 There's always that awkward who's going to go. 68 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,320 I knew that was going to happen. 69 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:02,600 OK, so I can go first, I'm Paloma Garcia, one of the founders of In the Cortex. 70 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:08,000 And the way that I came to learn about brain reorganization was actually through my brother, 71 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,760 because he had a lot of learning challenges and social challenges and just a lot of challenges 72 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,180 when he was little. 73 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:18,720 And he did a similar program, actually the program where Danny and I met in San Diego. 74 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,420 He did that when he was about 17 years old and it completely changed his life. 75 00:05:23,420 --> 00:05:29,120 He went from being a person who was constantly facing challenge after challenge after challenge 76 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:34,080 just all day long to being himself and being able to go to college, finish college. 77 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,120 He lives in Australia alone now. 78 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,800 He has a boyfriend, he has his own company. 79 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:43,600 I mean, he's just the most anybody who meets him nowadays would never think that he ever 80 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,320 struggled the way he did when he was younger. 81 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:50,160 And so that really inspired me to start to look at this stuff and really understand what 82 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:55,080 was going on with the brain, because when I learned about the importance of creeping 83 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,120 and crawling and all these different movements in that first year of life, and I saw that 84 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,080 changed my brother, and then I saw it in myself, I said, okay, there's something here. 85 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,800 This is this is going to change the world. 86 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,640 And so I had a business that I had in Mexico City. 87 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:16,760 I closed it and I moved to San Diego to be Danny's intern in 2014, I think 13 maybe long 88 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,520 time ago, right? 89 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,080 Maybe, I don't know, but we'd already known each other for a while. 90 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,600 And I'd already been studying it for a bit. 91 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,640 And long story short, I worked with Danny for a long time, then we both went our separate 92 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,640 ways for a while. 93 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,920 I lived in New York, I lived in Barcelona, and then we came back to do in the cortex 94 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,040 together. 95 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:39,720 And so now here we have it, we have a program that guides people through those movements 96 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,200 that they might have missed in that first year of life. 97 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,680 Because the truth is that the brain is so powerful that it can reconnect the way that 98 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,900 it's connected at any age through any experience that we have. 99 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:53,380 That's neuroplasticity, that's the power that it has. 100 00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:57,780 And so what we want to do is just help people understand that they have the power, we each 101 00:06:57,780 --> 00:07:03,040 have the power to change our brains, and to make our brain more efficient and just our 102 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,880 lives happier and not have to try as hard as we maybe have had to be trying our whole 103 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:09,880 lives, right? 104 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,640 It's it's really a lot easier. 105 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,160 And like you said, Christiana, one of our biggest passions is sharing this information 106 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:21,160 and sharing also that while you may not have gotten that stuff in the womb, or in that 107 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,520 first year, two years, three years of life, even if you're what's how old is our nine 108 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,520 our oldest member? 109 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,520 91, 90? 110 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:33,760 Even if you're 90 years old, you can still get on the floor and crawl and finish that 111 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,720 development and truly give your brain the neurological foundation that it's been craving 112 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,120 your whole life. 113 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,360 And that's what we're all about. 114 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,840 I also have a master's in neurodevelopmental disorders and another one neurological rehabilitation. 115 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,520 So that's kind of added on to what we have been doing for for all this time. 116 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:56,560 Oh, my gosh, this is I'm so excited to hear from you too, Danny, because I, I discovered 117 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,580 this outside of the two of you. 118 00:07:59,580 --> 00:08:07,000 But now some of my clients I've referred to you because it's just such a foundational 119 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,800 program that you can do that supports the type of somatic based therapies that I offer 120 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:17,640 in my practice, which is craniosacral therapy and different, different aspects of this pre 121 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,520 and perinatal education, which Carlton is going to unpack because we're like, wait a 122 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,720 second, healing happens in the now. 123 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,360 And ultimately, our goals are all like, we really would love for people to have this 124 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:33,760 knowledge before they even, you know, sink of becoming a family. 125 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,120 But in the world that we live in, we have so much to uncover just from ourselves and 126 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,980 where we've come from. 127 00:08:39,980 --> 00:08:47,400 So I love this program, how it's any age at any time and how does it connect to your birth? 128 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,600 I know Carlton's going to unpack that a little bit here in a minute of how and why you get 129 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,040 to this point because of the birth. 130 00:08:55,040 --> 00:09:00,560 And you're talking about crawling and creeping, which I know some of the people on this call 131 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:07,280 may be like, wait, what, how does crawling have to do with how I think or act right now? 132 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,980 So maybe Dani, you can tell us a little bit about who you are, how you came to it and 133 00:09:11,980 --> 00:09:14,920 why does crawling tie into this? 134 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Definitely. 135 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,420 I'm so excited to be here. 136 00:09:17,420 --> 00:09:18,960 Thank you for having us. 137 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,880 And so I'm Dani, I'm the other half of In the Cortex. 138 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,800 I have been doing this work for now 14 years. 139 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,680 I got into it similarly because my brother also was very, very challenged. 140 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:30,420 He was labeled with so many different things. 141 00:09:30,420 --> 00:09:36,680 My parents went through every avenue they possibly could 40 or 30 years ago, trying 142 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:38,680 to figure out how to help him not be so angry. 143 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:44,600 He was a very angry child and they just couldn't, they, you know, went through everything. 144 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,280 My mom stumbled across Paul Denison, who is the founder of Brain Jam. 145 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:54,040 And to be clear, Pullman and I are not the founders of these movements and practical 146 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,260 modalities. 147 00:09:55,260 --> 00:09:58,940 We have just been trained in them and we've put it together into a program to make it 148 00:09:58,940 --> 00:10:00,880 accessible and affordable for anyone. 149 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:06,000 That's, that was always our big thing was making it so it's accessible and something 150 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,440 that everyone can do around the world. 151 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:14,120 So my mom learned about Brain Jam and then she turned me on to brain reorganization. 152 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,240 And when she told me about it, I was like, mom, you're absolutely nuts. 153 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:21,080 Like there's no way you can get on the floor and crawl like a baby and then your life gets 154 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,080 easier. 155 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:29,360 I did not buy in for a while until I actually lived in Ecuador and I was living after I 156 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,360 graduated college. 157 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:36,760 I was a division one athlete and I was just a hot mess, literally running across the campus, 158 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:42,880 always late, never could keep anything organized, just always felt like I was just reacting 159 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:43,880 to life. 160 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,440 And I was the Danimal in college. 161 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,560 Like it was really thought I was out there to end people's lives versus just play a sport, 162 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:51,560 right? 163 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:53,220 Like you get a sit-down한 you're just sitting on a stool, right? 164 00:10:53,220 --> 00:10:57,200 You know, you can't sit down on a stool and then you fall on the sanitation, so it was 165 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,480 a diabolical situation. 166 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,320 Right, everybody's like, he'sasaki are you all doing okay? 167 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,340 Everybody's digital, you guys are not through and you're like, how does digital really come 168 00:11:05,340 --> 00:11:06,340 about? 169 00:11:06,340 --> 00:11:21,420 I was like, what, it just, the digital system has gone 170 00:11:21,420 --> 00:11:25,800 like this is me, I am a disorganized brain. 171 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,900 And so then I put myself on the floor. 172 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:31,020 And so here's the piece that you were just asking about. 173 00:11:31,020 --> 00:11:33,880 You put yourself into these positions 174 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,000 and this is what's so cool and so hopeful 175 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,380 for everyone out there is that at any age, 176 00:11:38,380 --> 00:11:39,560 at any point in your life, 177 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:43,100 neuroplasticity can come into effect. 178 00:11:43,100 --> 00:11:44,940 And so you don't have to, 179 00:11:44,940 --> 00:11:46,680 we always talk about those first three years 180 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:48,940 and they are super critical and important, 181 00:11:48,940 --> 00:11:51,580 but at any point in your life, you can go back 182 00:11:51,580 --> 00:11:54,480 and you can rewrite your story. 183 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,200 And this is why we love our work 184 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,780 because there's hope for anyone. 185 00:11:58,780 --> 00:12:01,500 And so you put yourself in these positions 186 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:03,820 and we guide you through this in our program 187 00:12:03,820 --> 00:12:05,280 and then we ask you to move. 188 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,260 And the way you move literally tells us 189 00:12:08,260 --> 00:12:10,380 where your brain left off in development. 190 00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:13,800 And so many people are like, no way, okay, wait, I'm curious. 191 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,820 And they'll do a 30 second movement and we can say, okay, 192 00:12:16,820 --> 00:12:18,140 this is what your life looks like. 193 00:12:18,140 --> 00:12:20,220 And we can rattle off all these different signs 194 00:12:20,220 --> 00:12:22,660 and like, how did you know that about me? 195 00:12:22,660 --> 00:12:26,540 Because the way you move shows us what you have access to, 196 00:12:26,540 --> 00:12:28,540 what automatic functions are in place 197 00:12:28,540 --> 00:12:29,900 and what isn't in place 198 00:12:29,900 --> 00:12:32,420 and how your brain is processing the world. 199 00:12:32,420 --> 00:12:35,020 So we can say, by the way you move, 200 00:12:35,020 --> 00:12:39,420 if you're only moving with what we'd say 10% development, 201 00:12:39,420 --> 00:12:41,880 you're somebody who, if you're driving in your car 202 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,500 and someone cuts you off, you're gonna fly off the handle 203 00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:46,680 because you find it as a personal attack. 204 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:49,060 You're like, that was a life threatening thing 205 00:12:49,060 --> 00:12:51,860 that just happened to me, so now I'm going to react. 206 00:12:51,860 --> 00:12:54,340 So we say, well, if you do this movement enough, 207 00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:56,060 your brain all of a sudden wakes up and goes, 208 00:12:56,060 --> 00:12:57,700 oh, I know what to do. 209 00:12:57,700 --> 00:13:00,920 I just wasn't given the environment to do it. 210 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,820 And then once the brain goes through the process 211 00:13:02,820 --> 00:13:04,720 of moving in a certain way, 212 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,640 all of a sudden the automatic functions 213 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,100 that weren't there come online. 214 00:13:09,100 --> 00:13:10,820 And now you free up your brain 215 00:13:10,820 --> 00:13:13,240 to be able to handle life for what it is. 216 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,500 And so it's just this really cool thing 217 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:17,780 that we all have coded within us. 218 00:13:17,780 --> 00:13:20,380 And what we do it in the cortex is we just show you 219 00:13:20,380 --> 00:13:21,500 how to find that. 220 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:23,740 And it changed my life. 221 00:13:23,740 --> 00:13:26,500 And so once I found this work, I was like, 222 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:28,140 oh my gosh, I'm not a hot mess. 223 00:13:28,140 --> 00:13:30,100 I don't need to have anxiety. 224 00:13:30,100 --> 00:13:32,220 I don't need to yell and scream at everybody. 225 00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:34,460 Like that's not the real me. 226 00:13:34,460 --> 00:13:36,540 And so once I did these movements, 227 00:13:36,540 --> 00:13:40,100 I found this is how you regulate your nervous system. 228 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:42,820 And now as a mom, I have two small children, 229 00:13:42,820 --> 00:13:44,300 a four and a seven year old. 230 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:47,340 I could not imagine motherhood without having this 231 00:13:47,340 --> 00:13:49,980 because I, you know, we all have those moments 232 00:13:49,980 --> 00:13:53,060 in motherhood where we're like, just listen, 233 00:13:53,060 --> 00:13:55,540 I asked you to do that one thing. 234 00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:58,420 It's hard, right? 235 00:13:58,420 --> 00:14:01,660 It takes you to a level you've never experienced in life 236 00:14:01,660 --> 00:14:04,260 where you have people who depend on you, right? 237 00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:06,100 And so for me, it's a must. 238 00:14:06,100 --> 00:14:08,380 I have to regulate my nervous system every day 239 00:14:08,380 --> 00:14:09,660 to be a better mom. 240 00:14:09,660 --> 00:14:12,220 And so that's where our work combined 241 00:14:12,220 --> 00:14:15,140 with what Carleton does is just fascinating 242 00:14:15,140 --> 00:14:18,260 because it just unlocks all these possibilities 243 00:14:18,260 --> 00:14:20,900 of how else you can be the best version of yourself. 244 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:22,620 And that's what I think we're all striving to do 245 00:14:22,620 --> 00:14:25,700 is how do we feel better every day 246 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:28,060 without having to work too much harder? 247 00:14:29,420 --> 00:14:30,580 It makes a lot of sense. 248 00:14:30,580 --> 00:14:34,420 And that's why I can feel so much energy in this call. 249 00:14:34,420 --> 00:14:37,660 And that's why I'm gonna call in Carleton 250 00:14:37,660 --> 00:14:41,620 who has this like, nervous, fiddling effect 251 00:14:41,620 --> 00:14:43,260 with all your wisdom. 252 00:14:43,260 --> 00:14:45,500 I have two children myself, 253 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:47,220 a 13 year old and a six year old. 254 00:14:47,220 --> 00:14:52,220 And my 13 year old and I went through brain gym practices 255 00:14:53,380 --> 00:14:54,300 when she was eight, 256 00:14:54,300 --> 00:14:59,060 because she and I, Danny, were a lot like you're describing. 257 00:14:59,060 --> 00:15:01,860 And that's when I started asking questions. 258 00:15:01,860 --> 00:15:03,740 I used to get so upset 259 00:15:03,740 --> 00:15:06,140 that I was never told this information, 260 00:15:06,140 --> 00:15:08,140 but one of the most empowering things 261 00:15:08,140 --> 00:15:10,700 I can tell every parent listening to this call 262 00:15:10,700 --> 00:15:14,980 or any individual is that you should always research. 263 00:15:14,980 --> 00:15:17,060 You should always ask questions. 264 00:15:17,060 --> 00:15:21,060 Don't just be handed the information 265 00:15:21,060 --> 00:15:23,060 that is given to us in this world 266 00:15:23,060 --> 00:15:27,500 and you will discover so much more. 267 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:32,500 And one of the joys about my life and my youngest now 268 00:15:33,140 --> 00:15:36,580 is when Carleton Terry entered my life years ago. 269 00:15:36,580 --> 00:15:37,820 He doesn't even know this, 270 00:15:37,820 --> 00:15:42,820 but years ago when I was first pregnant with my son, 271 00:15:43,660 --> 00:15:46,460 my youngest, his name kept popping up 272 00:15:46,460 --> 00:15:49,060 in all the research that I was doing 273 00:15:49,060 --> 00:15:52,020 along with a couple other people like Dr. Emerson 274 00:15:52,020 --> 00:15:56,260 and Frank Lake, all of these people 275 00:15:56,260 --> 00:16:01,260 who kind of started this revolution around nurture science. 276 00:16:02,940 --> 00:16:05,460 And that is like, you hear that today 277 00:16:05,460 --> 00:16:07,620 is like exploring the science of nurture 278 00:16:07,620 --> 00:16:12,620 and how far we've gone off paths. 279 00:16:12,820 --> 00:16:17,820 And Carleton taught people around the world 280 00:16:18,860 --> 00:16:23,860 how there's a story, an emotional-based story 281 00:16:24,620 --> 00:16:28,020 to every single one of our souls 282 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:31,020 that come into this planet 283 00:16:31,020 --> 00:16:36,020 and that it's sacred and profound 284 00:16:36,020 --> 00:16:40,220 and so vulnerable. 285 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:44,100 And I know Carleton, maybe that's why you can tell us 286 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:47,220 a little bit about what it is that you do 287 00:16:47,220 --> 00:16:51,140 and what got you into listening to babies. 288 00:16:55,900 --> 00:16:59,380 You know, I started realizing 289 00:16:59,380 --> 00:17:04,140 that the more vulnerable a human being is, 290 00:17:04,140 --> 00:17:07,180 if they're met with a challenge 291 00:17:07,180 --> 00:17:11,420 or if they're hurt or injured, it goes in deeper. 292 00:17:12,540 --> 00:17:17,060 It just isn't, there's not a lot of protection. 293 00:17:17,060 --> 00:17:20,660 And so we don't, you know, in my world, 294 00:17:20,660 --> 00:17:22,260 we don't really start with birth. 295 00:17:22,260 --> 00:17:26,940 We start much earlier, but I like to start with birth 296 00:17:26,940 --> 00:17:31,260 for most people because everybody can relate to birth. 297 00:17:31,260 --> 00:17:34,780 You know, everybody has a birth story. 298 00:17:34,780 --> 00:17:36,620 They know where they were born. 299 00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:39,020 They know what their parents have told them. 300 00:17:40,580 --> 00:17:43,420 Often their birth story is not the same 301 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:45,940 as the birth story of the parent. 302 00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:50,660 And we can find that the birth story 303 00:17:50,660 --> 00:17:54,020 is really encoded in the body. 304 00:17:54,020 --> 00:17:56,460 And you know, for years now, 305 00:17:56,460 --> 00:18:01,460 there've been a lot of very convincing arguments 306 00:18:01,460 --> 00:18:05,660 that the mind exists throughout the body. 307 00:18:05,660 --> 00:18:10,140 It's not just in the brain and that our feelings 308 00:18:10,140 --> 00:18:13,980 and our emotions exist in our body. 309 00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:16,900 And now more and more people are giving credit 310 00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:21,900 and really waking up to the whole idea of implicit memories. 311 00:18:22,380 --> 00:18:23,220 Yes. 312 00:18:23,220 --> 00:18:28,220 And implicit memories are deep, strong memories 313 00:18:30,220 --> 00:18:34,140 held in the body and in different parts of the body. 314 00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:36,100 And we can map them and find them. 315 00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:37,820 We can find out how old they were. 316 00:18:37,820 --> 00:18:39,460 We can find out where they came from. 317 00:18:39,460 --> 00:18:41,540 We can do all this wonderful stuff now. 318 00:18:42,540 --> 00:18:46,180 But what happens is if you've been hurt 319 00:18:46,180 --> 00:18:48,700 or traumatized or deeply challenged, 320 00:18:50,260 --> 00:18:52,180 an implicit memory forms. 321 00:18:52,180 --> 00:18:57,180 And in fact, trauma memories actually form easier 322 00:18:57,460 --> 00:18:59,140 and more densely and more quickly 323 00:18:59,140 --> 00:19:03,460 than you guys know this, than love or beauty. 324 00:19:03,460 --> 00:19:08,260 So if we get hurt or there's an intense issue that happens, 325 00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:13,260 or if there's a lack going on over a long period of time, 326 00:19:14,620 --> 00:19:18,460 what happens is that there's a place in the brain 327 00:19:18,460 --> 00:19:22,940 and in the body that sort of has to take over and say, 328 00:19:22,940 --> 00:19:25,340 okay, this is how things work. 329 00:19:25,340 --> 00:19:30,140 I got through this difficult traumatic experience 330 00:19:30,140 --> 00:19:33,540 by putting my head down and pushing with all my might. 331 00:19:34,660 --> 00:19:38,420 And then the brain goes, aha, 332 00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:40,580 this is how to get through life. 333 00:19:40,580 --> 00:19:44,100 We put our head down and we push with all our might 334 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:46,700 and then we get through. 335 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:48,820 This is one of the common ones, 336 00:19:48,820 --> 00:19:53,380 but there are hundreds and hundreds of programs like this 337 00:19:53,380 --> 00:19:56,580 that we can uncover and look at and understand. 338 00:19:58,740 --> 00:20:01,740 And the way the psyche works, 339 00:20:01,740 --> 00:20:06,740 the psyche wants us to wake up and work on these things. 340 00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:10,020 So it's always giving us an opportunity. 341 00:20:10,020 --> 00:20:12,500 It sort of knocks on the door with an implicit memory 342 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:17,140 and says, hey, you lost your keys again. 343 00:20:17,140 --> 00:20:19,180 And where does that come from? 344 00:20:19,180 --> 00:20:21,180 Why am I always losing my keys? 345 00:20:21,180 --> 00:20:23,180 And then how do I feel when I lose my keys? 346 00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:24,020 Am I scared? 347 00:20:24,020 --> 00:20:24,860 Am I sad? 348 00:20:24,860 --> 00:20:26,420 Am I sad? 349 00:20:26,420 --> 00:20:30,980 And these programs really can take over our brain 350 00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:34,580 like you guys know and have us react 351 00:20:35,460 --> 00:20:40,460 rather than respond to the actual environment we're in. 352 00:20:40,580 --> 00:20:41,980 And that's what I love about, 353 00:20:41,980 --> 00:20:45,180 you guys' work is because I can see you 354 00:20:46,420 --> 00:20:49,340 working with someone with where they're at in their head. 355 00:20:49,340 --> 00:20:52,100 And that's where we mostly are. 356 00:20:53,220 --> 00:20:54,260 As a system will tell you, 357 00:20:54,260 --> 00:20:57,500 90% of what we live is actually in here. 358 00:20:57,500 --> 00:20:58,700 It's not out there. 359 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:01,020 It's not our actual environment. 360 00:21:01,020 --> 00:21:06,020 And our actual environment is usually extremely safe 361 00:21:06,060 --> 00:21:07,980 and manageable. 362 00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:10,740 But if we have a program that we need to put our head down 363 00:21:10,740 --> 00:21:13,060 and push because we feel some danger, 364 00:21:14,340 --> 00:21:16,060 we might put our head down and push 365 00:21:16,060 --> 00:21:18,620 and just bump into the car in front of us 366 00:21:18,620 --> 00:21:20,940 because they're not going as fast as we are. 367 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:24,780 Or you know what, if you're standing in line 368 00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:25,740 at the grocery store 369 00:21:25,740 --> 00:21:28,660 and you feel someone breathing down your neck, 370 00:21:28,660 --> 00:21:31,660 I promise you, you can turn around and you can look 371 00:21:31,660 --> 00:21:34,820 and you can tell they have signs 372 00:21:34,820 --> 00:21:38,100 from when they were programmed 373 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:40,180 that compelled them to do that. 374 00:21:40,180 --> 00:21:41,300 It's not even a choice. 375 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:42,500 They just do it. 376 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:45,020 They do it, their body does it. 377 00:21:45,020 --> 00:21:48,460 And I think for me, 378 00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:53,020 the deepest part of this potential of this work 379 00:21:53,020 --> 00:21:56,060 is if we can give kids and babies 380 00:21:56,060 --> 00:21:58,940 what they are asking for, 381 00:21:58,940 --> 00:22:00,180 and we need to understand it. 382 00:22:00,180 --> 00:22:03,500 It's not always what they're asking for with their words. 383 00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:05,980 It's often what they're asking for with their actions 384 00:22:05,980 --> 00:22:08,300 and with their sounds they're making. 385 00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:11,020 But if we can give them what they need, 386 00:22:11,020 --> 00:22:12,140 and usually we can, 387 00:22:12,140 --> 00:22:14,740 usually it's a pretty simple gift. 388 00:22:15,980 --> 00:22:18,420 They feel happy and safe and fulfilled. 389 00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:21,740 And suddenly the stress goes out of the situation 390 00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:24,060 and we weren't even talking about the symptom. 391 00:22:24,940 --> 00:22:27,380 We were talking about something underneath the symptom 392 00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:28,860 that we just happened to catch 393 00:22:28,860 --> 00:22:31,700 because we had a little bit of training. 394 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:34,820 So I feel like our job together 395 00:22:34,820 --> 00:22:37,300 is to look at the training we can do, 396 00:22:37,300 --> 00:22:41,140 help people see what's going on at the real level, 397 00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:44,180 underneath the symptoms or underneath the crying 398 00:22:44,180 --> 00:22:48,420 because someone had pitocin or underneath the resistance 399 00:22:48,420 --> 00:22:50,180 because somebody had forceps. 400 00:22:50,180 --> 00:22:53,140 When we can look at the human being underneath 401 00:22:53,140 --> 00:22:56,180 and how they got programmed. 402 00:22:56,180 --> 00:22:58,420 And I call them, I don't know, 403 00:22:58,420 --> 00:23:02,540 I think somebody came up with this phrase, I love it. 404 00:23:02,540 --> 00:23:07,540 It's called hostage-taking neural networks. 405 00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:08,460 Yes, I've heard that. 406 00:23:08,460 --> 00:23:12,580 They're the ones that run most of our lives 407 00:23:12,580 --> 00:23:14,380 and are most of our reactions. 408 00:23:14,380 --> 00:23:15,860 And guess what? 409 00:23:15,860 --> 00:23:17,780 When we find one of those, 410 00:23:17,780 --> 00:23:21,220 it's really easy to talk them down and have them let go. 411 00:23:22,420 --> 00:23:24,020 Change the brain on that level. 412 00:23:24,020 --> 00:23:27,100 So I'm looking forward to a collaboration 413 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:31,660 because I feel like our work really fits together 414 00:23:31,660 --> 00:23:36,300 in a way that can help actual families 415 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:41,300 have sweeter, fuller lives. 416 00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:43,220 They're happy. 417 00:23:43,220 --> 00:23:47,620 And you always, if there's one, especially if it's the baby, 418 00:23:47,620 --> 00:23:51,220 if there's an unhappy baby who's not sleeping, 419 00:23:51,220 --> 00:23:53,700 everybody's just miserable. 420 00:23:54,740 --> 00:23:57,020 But if you're a happy baby, if a happy baby, 421 00:23:57,020 --> 00:24:01,060 everybody's in love because you love happy babies. 422 00:24:01,060 --> 00:24:03,100 So, oh, Dani, you have your... 423 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,660 Yeah, I wanted to share on that note 424 00:24:05,660 --> 00:24:08,300 because the work Paloma and I do, 425 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:12,140 it's really about looking at certain movements, right? 426 00:24:12,140 --> 00:24:17,100 And so for my own son, he had an asymmetrical crawl, 427 00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:20,540 of course, because our kids come in to teach us so much. 428 00:24:20,540 --> 00:24:24,140 And a big slice of humble pie was served on that day. 429 00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:26,260 And because I'm in the brain business, 430 00:24:26,260 --> 00:24:27,900 I know that crawling means so much. 431 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:30,180 And of course, my child has a kickstand crawl, 432 00:24:30,180 --> 00:24:33,740 which signifies primitive reflexes aren't integrated. 433 00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:37,540 But I have been working with him for a very long time. 434 00:24:37,540 --> 00:24:38,940 He's almost eight years old now. 435 00:24:38,940 --> 00:24:42,820 And when I met Carlton and he did a birth mask reveal, 436 00:24:42,820 --> 00:24:45,740 and I learned what happened at my son's birth. 437 00:24:45,740 --> 00:24:47,060 I mean, I had a home birth. 438 00:24:47,060 --> 00:24:49,340 I did everything as I was supposed to. 439 00:24:49,340 --> 00:24:54,220 I went very holistic and tried so hard to be perfect, right? 440 00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:56,140 And I had to do everything right. 441 00:24:56,140 --> 00:24:58,620 And that pressure from society, right? 442 00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:02,660 Of having to hit every certain thing perfectly. 443 00:25:02,660 --> 00:25:06,420 And then realizing that, oh my gosh, he possibly 444 00:25:06,420 --> 00:25:07,940 broke his nose at birth. 445 00:25:07,940 --> 00:25:10,540 And then that explained the breathing, which actually 446 00:25:10,540 --> 00:25:11,980 is connected to everything else. 447 00:25:11,980 --> 00:25:16,580 It gave me a whole new insight as to how many different things 448 00:25:16,580 --> 00:25:22,100 have to come together to help support us, our children, 449 00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:23,260 the family, the home. 450 00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:26,540 And so I think this is such a beautiful resource of just 451 00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:29,220 looking at things through a different lens of, oh my gosh, 452 00:25:29,220 --> 00:25:31,580 I didn't even know that was a thing. 453 00:25:31,580 --> 00:25:33,340 And it was so impactful. 454 00:25:33,340 --> 00:25:34,860 You bring up a good point, Dani. 455 00:25:34,860 --> 00:25:38,260 And this is the story that I left off 456 00:25:38,260 --> 00:25:42,220 before introducing Carlton about my son, 457 00:25:42,220 --> 00:25:47,820 is my daughter and I were doing brain balance, essentially, 458 00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:52,140 and brain reorganization movements together 459 00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:54,860 when I discovered writings about Carlton Terry. 460 00:25:54,860 --> 00:26:00,060 And I happened to be in a class with one of my teachers, 461 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:02,700 Kate White, who was a student of Carlton's. 462 00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:06,500 And she had learned about these baby movements 463 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:09,900 and how babies may be telling a story with their bodies, 464 00:26:09,900 --> 00:26:11,700 where they're touching themselves, 465 00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:18,140 or how if they have a kick stand, move, crawl, 466 00:26:18,140 --> 00:26:22,780 how they may have been positioning themselves 467 00:26:22,780 --> 00:26:27,460 in utero, and it all of a sudden dawned on me. 468 00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:30,540 You know, my daughter had a C-section birth, 469 00:26:30,540 --> 00:26:33,660 and we had this fallout of so much. 470 00:26:33,660 --> 00:26:35,780 And Carlton telling the story today 471 00:26:35,780 --> 00:26:40,740 about the program of pushing, that's me. 472 00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:43,340 We use the word direct recapitulator, 473 00:26:43,340 --> 00:26:47,980 but I was the rev, like always stacking my nervous system 474 00:26:47,980 --> 00:26:51,700 with more, even when it wasn't necessary. 475 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:54,740 And my daughter was feeling this in my space. 476 00:26:54,740 --> 00:26:59,220 But before I could actually do the somatic work, 477 00:26:59,220 --> 00:27:03,660 if you will, with my son, or before the light bulbs went on, 478 00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:07,260 I had to rescue myself. 479 00:27:07,260 --> 00:27:10,100 And I was doing this program, which was really 480 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:12,380 helping to calm my nerves. 481 00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:15,180 I was also training in cranial sacral therapy, 482 00:27:15,180 --> 00:27:20,820 which was a huge healing episode for me for a number of years. 483 00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:23,940 And then I could see that my son was set up 484 00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:26,660 in this same environment. 485 00:27:26,660 --> 00:27:31,740 But yet, because I was starting to unravel compassionately, 486 00:27:31,740 --> 00:27:34,860 really starting to understand, oh my gosh, 487 00:27:34,860 --> 00:27:37,620 there's a deeper story to myself. 488 00:27:37,620 --> 00:27:40,980 There's a deeper story to these emotions that I'm having. 489 00:27:40,980 --> 00:27:43,380 There's this implicit memories that I'm 490 00:27:43,380 --> 00:27:46,020 starting to unpack from my own childhood. 491 00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:50,140 It was like, wow, now I'm seeing this bigger world. 492 00:27:50,140 --> 00:27:53,860 And I was able to hold my son differently 493 00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:57,100 than I had with my daughter. 494 00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:58,980 And by the way, I don't want anybody 495 00:27:58,980 --> 00:28:00,540 to feel like she's left out, like she's 496 00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:03,460 an amazing, thriving, awesome human being. 497 00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:08,780 We went through a number of years with no sleep 498 00:28:08,780 --> 00:28:10,180 and a lot of high anxiety. 499 00:28:10,180 --> 00:28:14,580 But I've spent years helping her settle. 500 00:28:14,580 --> 00:28:17,180 And she's finally come there. 501 00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:19,020 But it's interesting. 502 00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:22,740 I just want parents to not have to go through so much work. 503 00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:23,700 Yes. 504 00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:27,340 And what we're setting ourselves up for, 505 00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:32,260 and what we teach at APA, is that our birth scenarios 506 00:28:32,260 --> 00:28:35,300 of basically how little support there 507 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:38,260 is for women in and around birth, for their bodies 508 00:28:38,260 --> 00:28:40,940 and their emotions, is that there's also 509 00:28:40,940 --> 00:28:44,500 very little support for women and babies afterwards. 510 00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:47,820 And how we actually birth babies. 511 00:28:47,820 --> 00:28:51,100 And I'm just going to use the word trauma. 512 00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:54,300 Because all of these disconnections 513 00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:58,460 or disorganized brains or asymmetrical holding patterns 514 00:28:58,460 --> 00:29:03,780 or whatever you want to call it, implicit memories, triggers, 515 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:07,540 they all come from overwhelming experiences. 516 00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:12,420 And literally, we've had a few thousand years 517 00:29:12,420 --> 00:29:15,820 of overwhelming experiences for humanity. 518 00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:20,060 And so that's why we have this program. 519 00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:21,820 We've got our blindfolds on. 520 00:29:21,820 --> 00:29:23,500 And we're just looking at what mess 521 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:24,980 we have to clean up in front of us 522 00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:29,980 and not living this full, encompassing life that 523 00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:33,500 is settled and we feel at ease. 524 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:36,580 There's a lot that we have to overcome. 525 00:29:36,580 --> 00:29:41,580 And I love how your program gets people on their feet. 526 00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:42,420 Yes. 527 00:29:42,420 --> 00:29:43,260 OK. 528 00:29:43,260 --> 00:29:43,740 All right. 529 00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:45,460 Now I can take some breaths. 530 00:29:45,460 --> 00:29:49,860 But Carlton, I'm wondering more about this compassionate 531 00:29:49,860 --> 00:29:56,260 connection that you uncover about how babies do experience 532 00:29:56,260 --> 00:29:57,460 trauma in the womb. 533 00:29:57,460 --> 00:30:03,180 What are some tips, if you will, that you offer in your practice 534 00:30:03,180 --> 00:30:07,460 and that you teach practitioners to help mitigate trauma 535 00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:12,900 for babies in the womb and even after birth? 536 00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:16,060 Well, there's a lot. 537 00:30:16,060 --> 00:30:17,620 There's loads of stuff. 538 00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:18,940 And it all helps. 539 00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:21,060 And I just want to go back for a second 540 00:30:21,060 --> 00:30:24,140 because Danny said something so important about the pressure 541 00:30:24,140 --> 00:30:27,980 from society to give a good birth, to do a good birth, 542 00:30:27,980 --> 00:30:30,100 to be a good mom. 543 00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:35,380 And oh my god, I can say I'm an expert on moms. 544 00:30:38,340 --> 00:30:42,660 I'm not sure I met a mom who said in front of me, 545 00:30:42,660 --> 00:30:45,580 and said, I did the perfect birth. 546 00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:46,900 I'm so happy. 547 00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:49,420 Everything went, you know. 548 00:30:49,420 --> 00:30:54,220 And it breaks my heart because I know 549 00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:59,420 the precious aspect of the feminine archetype, 550 00:30:59,420 --> 00:31:00,940 the nurturing archetype. 551 00:31:00,940 --> 00:31:04,940 I mean, Diana is one of my favorite goddesses, right? 552 00:31:07,980 --> 00:31:12,300 You do your very best when you're giving birth. 553 00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:15,420 All the way through it with the choices you have, 554 00:31:15,420 --> 00:31:18,540 with the pressures you have, with the surprises you have 555 00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:21,300 if you're in a hospital, with the other kind of pressures 556 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:22,780 you have. 557 00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:24,900 And so a big part of our business 558 00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:30,500 is getting moms to just like, oh, I 559 00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:34,780 don't have to forgive myself because I 560 00:31:34,780 --> 00:31:37,140 didn't do anything wrong. 561 00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:39,660 When that moment enters the mother's body, 562 00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:42,140 something melts away. 563 00:31:42,140 --> 00:31:43,340 And we can always check it. 564 00:31:43,340 --> 00:31:45,220 We could check, let's check with your husband. 565 00:31:45,220 --> 00:31:48,820 Does she need to apologize for anything she did during birth? 566 00:31:48,820 --> 00:31:51,740 I've never heard a husband say, yeah, she screwed up. 567 00:31:51,740 --> 00:31:53,100 Never. 568 00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:53,820 Yeah. 569 00:31:53,820 --> 00:31:56,060 Never. 570 00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:58,580 And I've seen husbands who pass out 571 00:31:58,580 --> 00:32:01,820 while they're giving birth. 572 00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:03,460 I've asked babies. 573 00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:07,260 I've asked babies who can talk and babies who can talk 574 00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:08,940 with baby body language. 575 00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:14,100 Do you and mother need to apologize for anything? 576 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:16,340 And babies, you're like, what? 577 00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:18,380 They don't even register. 578 00:32:18,380 --> 00:32:23,860 So part of our love for the feminine and the maternal, 579 00:32:23,860 --> 00:32:26,500 the Madonna, OK? 580 00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:30,460 The Madonna is you did your best. 581 00:32:30,460 --> 00:32:36,420 So where are you holding your shame or your devaluation 582 00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:37,060 of yourself? 583 00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:38,980 It's usually tied to some earlier guilt. 584 00:32:38,980 --> 00:32:39,860 We could find that. 585 00:32:39,860 --> 00:32:40,580 We can untie it. 586 00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:41,420 We can let it go. 587 00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:43,260 And whew, wow. 588 00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:49,620 When you can let go of your inappropriate, improper guilt 589 00:32:49,620 --> 00:32:52,340 or shame over giving birth, all of a sudden, 590 00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:55,820 a lot of the stuff that your kids do that upset you 591 00:32:55,820 --> 00:32:58,500 doesn't bug you the same way. 592 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:02,620 It doesn't stress you out because it 593 00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:04,980 doesn't have anywhere to land. 594 00:33:04,980 --> 00:33:05,740 Yes. 595 00:33:05,740 --> 00:33:08,780 You're in a much more real relationship with your kid 596 00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:12,940 when you're just talking about them getting their shoes tied. 597 00:33:12,940 --> 00:33:13,820 That's so real. 598 00:33:13,820 --> 00:33:16,620 I feel like that's, I mean, Danny, you and I've 599 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:19,380 had this conversation a million times about exactly what Carlton 600 00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:20,140 just said. 601 00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:23,300 And that's why we love the fact that, once again, 602 00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:24,740 that we all came together, right? 603 00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:26,900 Because what we're doing is we look at it 604 00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:28,940 from the neurological perspective first. 605 00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:31,300 That's the very first part of our program 606 00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:34,060 is getting you out of that survival mode 607 00:33:34,060 --> 00:33:36,220 where you're not hyper focused on the negative. 608 00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:38,340 You're not looking at everything as a threat. 609 00:33:38,340 --> 00:33:41,860 Every single thing your husband says, the person that 610 00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:45,420 cut you off in traffic, the thing that your kid did that's 611 00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:47,380 just triggering you, right? 612 00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:50,620 That is also, of course, from an emotional perspective, 613 00:33:50,620 --> 00:33:52,940 it's processed as, you know, it's trauma. 614 00:33:52,940 --> 00:33:54,300 It's going back to your trauma. 615 00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:56,300 It's hitting your triggers, hitting those wounds 616 00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:57,460 that you have within you. 617 00:33:57,460 --> 00:33:59,260 But from a neurological perspective, 618 00:33:59,260 --> 00:34:02,300 when you go into that fight or flight mode, 619 00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:05,260 you're throwing your whole body into dysregulation. 620 00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:10,380 You are ready to get out of that life or death situation 621 00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:13,460 when it's not, it's usually not a life or death situation, 622 00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:14,740 right? 623 00:34:14,740 --> 00:34:16,740 It feels like it in here. 624 00:34:16,740 --> 00:34:17,660 Exactly. 625 00:34:17,660 --> 00:34:19,860 That's the function of implicit memories. 626 00:34:19,860 --> 00:34:23,580 They literally make you feel like it's happening now. 627 00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:24,380 Yeah, exactly. 628 00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:26,780 It's not happening now, but that's how they function. 629 00:34:26,780 --> 00:34:28,860 And the brain is very smart, but it's also 630 00:34:28,860 --> 00:34:30,980 not so smart in certain ways because it can't always 631 00:34:30,980 --> 00:34:32,900 tell what's real and what's not, right? 632 00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:36,180 So it's, you know, the primitive brain doesn't have logic. 633 00:34:36,180 --> 00:34:37,700 It doesn't understand what's going on. 634 00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:39,700 It doesn't understand, oh, yeah, this is just my phone. 635 00:34:39,700 --> 00:34:41,500 And it's a message that somebody didn't answer. 636 00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:43,100 It's not life or death, right? 637 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:44,620 The brain, the primitive brain is just 638 00:34:44,620 --> 00:34:47,180 prepped to survive and to keep you alive. 639 00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:48,860 And that's why it's so amazing, right? 640 00:34:48,860 --> 00:34:51,940 We come from a place where we trained 641 00:34:51,940 --> 00:34:53,740 that they were looking at the primitive brain 642 00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:54,780 in a very negative way. 643 00:34:54,780 --> 00:34:56,780 It was like, no, say no to that primitive brain. 644 00:34:56,780 --> 00:34:58,060 We don't want that around here. 645 00:34:58,060 --> 00:35:01,260 It's like, no, we do want it when it's appropriate, 646 00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:02,580 when we need it, right? 647 00:35:02,580 --> 00:35:04,700 And so when you're walking down the street 648 00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:06,380 and there's a car that's going to run you over, 649 00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:07,780 you want that fight or flight mode. 650 00:35:07,780 --> 00:35:08,580 Boom, kick it. 651 00:35:08,580 --> 00:35:09,620 Immediately, yeah. 652 00:35:09,620 --> 00:35:11,580 Like, please, whatever you need to do, right? 653 00:35:11,580 --> 00:35:14,500 But if it's an option that you can choose when you need it. 654 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:15,260 Exactly. 655 00:35:15,260 --> 00:35:17,620 And that option to choose comes from being 656 00:35:17,620 --> 00:35:20,060 able to have that regulation first. 657 00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:23,060 And then the other piece, which is where we really come 658 00:35:23,060 --> 00:35:26,300 together, all of us, is looking at the subconscious, right? 659 00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:28,060 And that's the second part of our program, 660 00:35:28,060 --> 00:35:30,700 is looking at all of these subconscious beliefs 661 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:32,180 that you're talking about, Carlton, 662 00:35:32,180 --> 00:35:36,020 is that the implicit memories, the trauma, all those things, 663 00:35:36,020 --> 00:35:38,620 they're stored all over. 664 00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:42,820 And so, yeah, the first step is getting out of survival mode 665 00:35:42,820 --> 00:35:44,780 so you can address the rest of it. 666 00:35:44,780 --> 00:35:47,700 And that's why we call it enlightenment. 667 00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:48,380 Yes. 668 00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:51,380 Just like, you know, who was it? 669 00:35:51,380 --> 00:35:54,460 Sarja said, no. 670 00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:55,140 Who was it? 671 00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:59,780 Yeah, you don't get enlightened by studying images of light. 672 00:35:59,780 --> 00:36:03,180 You get enlightened by shining light 673 00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:07,380 into the areas where there's darkness and see what's there. 674 00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:08,660 And we can do that. 675 00:36:08,660 --> 00:36:10,060 We can tiptoe into that. 676 00:36:10,060 --> 00:36:11,060 We can look at it. 677 00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:13,820 We could be there with it safely. 678 00:36:13,820 --> 00:36:16,860 And it can become our friend. 679 00:36:16,860 --> 00:36:18,740 And here's the thing that happens. 680 00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:22,100 When we get hurt, when we're little, 681 00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:25,620 there's a body hurt that happens somewhere in the body. 682 00:36:25,620 --> 00:36:31,220 But there's also an emotional component. 683 00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:32,740 It's called prosody. 684 00:36:32,740 --> 00:36:34,260 It's a feeling. 685 00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:37,660 It's like, am I sad about this? 686 00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:44,300 And that emotional prosody, that emotional psychological content 687 00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:45,860 is like glue. 688 00:36:45,860 --> 00:36:50,140 And it holds together the somatic pieces. 689 00:36:50,140 --> 00:36:55,660 It's one reason you can't just work with craniosacral therapy 690 00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:58,500 alone and have the same results as if you're 691 00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,340 working with craniosacral therapy 692 00:37:00,340 --> 00:37:03,780 and releasing the emotions that are attached to it 693 00:37:03,780 --> 00:37:06,940 and dealing with it and knowing what they are. 694 00:37:06,940 --> 00:37:10,220 And so what we try to do is, you know, 695 00:37:10,220 --> 00:37:14,140 craniosacral people, osteopaths, a lot of baby therapists, 696 00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:18,620 they're elbow deep in the birth canal with the baby. 697 00:37:18,620 --> 00:37:21,260 And we want them to know where they are. 698 00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:24,620 You know, is the baby in a rotating position? 699 00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:25,740 Is the baby stuck? 700 00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:27,380 Is the cord involved? 701 00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:30,980 And we can find all of this out now. 702 00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:33,460 And that gives us a huge amount of confidence 703 00:37:33,460 --> 00:37:35,860 in what to do next and how to apply what 704 00:37:35,860 --> 00:37:41,060 we know with the safety of knowing this is what 705 00:37:41,060 --> 00:37:43,180 the baby is telling us to do. 706 00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:45,020 Yes. 707 00:37:45,020 --> 00:37:46,660 That's why you want to say, do we 708 00:37:46,660 --> 00:37:47,980 know how to listen to our babies? 709 00:37:47,980 --> 00:37:48,980 And what are they saying? 710 00:37:48,980 --> 00:37:49,940 Right? 711 00:37:49,940 --> 00:37:54,340 And that's exactly right, Paloma. 712 00:37:54,340 --> 00:37:56,260 Carlton, just for those who are listening, 713 00:37:56,260 --> 00:37:57,860 it may be like, wait, what? 714 00:37:57,860 --> 00:38:01,020 How does he understand if there is a cord involved? 715 00:38:01,020 --> 00:38:04,100 But this is the process that, Carlton, you use 716 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,860 is birth regression research. 717 00:38:06,860 --> 00:38:10,860 And this is the foundation of this concept 718 00:38:10,860 --> 00:38:13,780 comes from implicit memory, that these memories are 719 00:38:13,780 --> 00:38:17,340 stored in your cells, not just in your brains, 720 00:38:17,340 --> 00:38:20,060 and that they can be activated. 721 00:38:20,060 --> 00:38:22,300 And there are somatic markers, too. 722 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:25,860 So you have two routes to follow to get there. 723 00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:30,580 Yes, there's cues or signs that babies show with their body, 724 00:38:30,580 --> 00:38:34,780 and even in relationships with their caretakers 725 00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:36,540 and how they respond. 726 00:38:36,540 --> 00:38:40,220 But there's specific training that you 727 00:38:40,220 --> 00:38:44,180 go through in order to recognize these languages 728 00:38:44,180 --> 00:38:45,260 that you're talking about. 729 00:38:45,260 --> 00:38:47,900 I mean, you've dubbed it baby body language. 730 00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:52,700 I know we have all sorts of tools that come with it, 731 00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:56,860 that somatic-based practices or regulation tools that 732 00:38:56,860 --> 00:39:00,460 incorporate polyvagal theory or, as you say, 733 00:39:00,460 --> 00:39:01,620 craniosacral therapy. 734 00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:03,140 There's different modalities that 735 00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:09,420 support how to decode the story that somebody is showing. 736 00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:13,300 And for a baby, they can't talk to you verbally, 737 00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:16,220 but they can show you energetically. 738 00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:19,620 That's the beauty of it is they can't talk to you, 739 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:23,420 and therefore they cannot mislead you. 740 00:39:23,420 --> 00:39:27,580 If I go to a doctor and I'm talking about my symptoms, 741 00:39:27,580 --> 00:39:30,980 I may not be talking about what's wrong with me. 742 00:39:30,980 --> 00:39:34,700 Babies talking, they're showing you exactly what's wrong, 743 00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:36,700 and they're telling you exactly what they needed. 744 00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:40,220 Pure truth coming straight from the source. 745 00:39:40,220 --> 00:39:41,620 There's no persona involved. 746 00:39:41,620 --> 00:39:42,700 There's no ego involved. 747 00:39:42,700 --> 00:39:46,700 They're just, help, I need this attention right here, 748 00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:48,620 and they can go to right where it is. 749 00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:49,620 Yeah. 750 00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:53,300 Oh, well, that's why I read your book all the time, 751 00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:55,420 New Parenting Can Change Your World, 752 00:39:55,420 --> 00:39:58,340 because it also says less stress, 753 00:39:58,340 --> 00:40:00,260 including the cure for colic. 754 00:40:00,260 --> 00:40:03,420 Because we actually, in therapy with babies, 755 00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:08,300 we can tell by their cry, their prosody of their cry, 756 00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:10,420 what emotions they may be feeling 757 00:40:10,420 --> 00:40:13,580 and how we can map that back to a very specific time 758 00:40:13,580 --> 00:40:18,580 during the birth, or their birth journey in the womb 759 00:40:19,260 --> 00:40:22,020 of what may be happening to them in their environment, 760 00:40:22,020 --> 00:40:25,220 what may be happening to their caretakers. 761 00:40:25,220 --> 00:40:27,100 Because babies remember these things, 762 00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:29,180 and it's programmed in. 763 00:40:29,180 --> 00:40:30,020 So I- 764 00:40:30,020 --> 00:40:34,660 Yeah, not explicitly, but implicitly they remember them. 765 00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:36,300 And there's such a clear difference. 766 00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:41,300 Now, finally, this language is getting into our world, 767 00:40:41,620 --> 00:40:42,460 explicit memory. 768 00:40:42,460 --> 00:40:43,660 Yes. 769 00:40:43,660 --> 00:40:47,220 I had a cup of coffee when I was talking to those guys. 770 00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:50,300 Implicit memory was, my hand knows how to get the coffee 771 00:40:50,300 --> 00:40:52,820 up to my mouth, I'm not even thinking about it. 772 00:40:52,820 --> 00:40:54,460 It's just my body does it. 773 00:40:56,020 --> 00:41:01,020 One of the pioneers in the pre and perinatal sciences, 774 00:41:01,140 --> 00:41:05,140 who's an embryologist, Joop van der Waal, 775 00:41:05,140 --> 00:41:09,100 he says the embryo within us is always present. 776 00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:12,140 Our younger selves, this is the whole idea 777 00:41:12,140 --> 00:41:13,580 of the inner child journey. 778 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:15,700 We carry this youngest part of ourselves. 779 00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:18,820 You even said it, Dani, when you're explaining, 780 00:41:18,820 --> 00:41:21,060 you can tell how they move, 781 00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:23,180 where they've left off in their development, 782 00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:26,260 or where there's what we call in our terms, ruptures. 783 00:41:27,420 --> 00:41:30,220 And where those ruptures are like little landmines 784 00:41:30,220 --> 00:41:33,420 or emotional triggers waiting to be found, 785 00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:35,620 like Carlton said, coming knocking on your door 786 00:41:35,620 --> 00:41:37,780 because healing always wants to happen. 787 00:41:37,780 --> 00:41:40,740 And I'm just so grateful that all of us 788 00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:42,180 have been able to come together. 789 00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:47,180 And this is a preview of our talk that we're gonna do at APA 790 00:41:47,540 --> 00:41:51,260 during birth psychology month in March, next month, 791 00:41:51,260 --> 00:41:54,300 just a few weeks away, but March 22nd, 792 00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:55,900 we will all be coming together 793 00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:59,420 to give a little bit more in-depth details 794 00:41:59,420 --> 00:42:01,060 of exactly what we're talking about. 795 00:42:01,060 --> 00:42:06,060 Specifically, how maybe even these postures in the womb 796 00:42:06,180 --> 00:42:09,060 are leading to what you see in your work, 797 00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:12,220 like the crawl and the primitive reflexes 798 00:42:12,220 --> 00:42:13,380 that aren't inhibited. 799 00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:17,220 So I know we're gonna explain and uncover more details. 800 00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:18,820 So stay tuned. 801 00:42:18,820 --> 00:42:23,820 And Carlton, we can reach you through ktbabysherapy.com. 802 00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:25,020 Yeah. 803 00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:29,020 And Dani, how do we get in touch with you guys 804 00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:31,740 at In the Cortex, who almost got that? 805 00:42:31,740 --> 00:42:32,580 Yeah. 806 00:42:32,580 --> 00:42:34,620 I do the contact piece. 807 00:42:35,820 --> 00:42:38,460 You can, our website is inthecortex.com. 808 00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:41,180 You can always email us at hello at inthecortex.com. 809 00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:43,980 And our social media has so much information. 810 00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:46,180 If you wanna, if you're a video person, 811 00:42:46,180 --> 00:42:47,980 we have so many videos on there. 812 00:42:47,980 --> 00:42:51,100 Our Instagram is inthecortex.us, 813 00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:54,340 and our TikTok is in underscore the underscore cortex. 814 00:42:54,340 --> 00:42:56,300 And we have tons of info there. 815 00:42:56,300 --> 00:42:57,140 Oh, that's great. 816 00:42:57,140 --> 00:43:00,100 And I, me signing off with APA, 817 00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:02,940 we're at birthpsychology.com. 818 00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:05,700 And again, I'm the director of education there. 819 00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:08,500 And I am so pleased that all of us could get together. 820 00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:12,260 And I'm excited about what future endeavors that we have 821 00:43:12,260 --> 00:43:15,020 as our worlds start to collaborate and unfold 822 00:43:15,020 --> 00:43:17,740 into understanding how we can build 823 00:43:17,740 --> 00:43:20,580 more compassionate connections with ourselves, 824 00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:23,420 with our children, well, with everybody. 825 00:43:23,420 --> 00:43:28,420 So let's get on board with this whole nurture revolution. 826 00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:31,020 Yeah, like I know. 827 00:43:32,020 --> 00:43:34,460 I'm so excited that this information 828 00:43:34,460 --> 00:43:36,820 is starting to get more mainstreamed. 829 00:43:36,820 --> 00:43:38,660 And it's not as crazy. 830 00:43:38,660 --> 00:43:42,220 And even me having my kids four and eight years ago, 831 00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:43,300 I was so lost. 832 00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:45,180 I was focused on the things that we thought 833 00:43:45,180 --> 00:43:47,140 we should be focused on, baby registries 834 00:43:47,140 --> 00:43:48,500 and that sort of stuff. 835 00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:51,180 When I wish I did a whole lot more work 836 00:43:51,180 --> 00:43:52,900 on the emotional stuff. 837 00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:55,580 And really diving into the importance 838 00:43:55,580 --> 00:43:58,940 of the pre-imperianatal psychology 839 00:43:58,940 --> 00:44:00,660 because that's what really matters. 840 00:44:00,660 --> 00:44:03,260 That stroller you're gonna outgrow in a year, you know, 841 00:44:03,260 --> 00:44:04,660 like two. 842 00:44:04,660 --> 00:44:07,300 But those thoughts are everlasting. 843 00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:10,380 And I love that these conversations are being had 844 00:44:10,380 --> 00:44:13,900 and we are forging a new way for parents to find this. 845 00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:15,820 And I know there's a huge sense of people 846 00:44:15,820 --> 00:44:17,380 wanting to get on board with this. 847 00:44:17,380 --> 00:44:19,220 And I love that it's accessible 848 00:44:19,220 --> 00:44:21,420 and it's really not too crazy. 849 00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:22,340 And like we talked about before, 850 00:44:22,340 --> 00:44:23,980 you don't have to have a crazy degree 851 00:44:23,980 --> 00:44:25,580 to really understand what's happening 852 00:44:25,580 --> 00:44:27,060 in the communication aspect. 853 00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:29,460 So we're excited to be a part of this. 854 00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:30,460 So thank you. 855 00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:33,060 This is one thing that feels so important to me 856 00:44:33,060 --> 00:44:35,820 is that when you use the word science, 857 00:44:35,820 --> 00:44:38,540 it scares people. 858 00:44:38,540 --> 00:44:41,420 We say pre-imperianatal sciences. 859 00:44:41,420 --> 00:44:44,860 I don't feel like I ever talk about anything 860 00:44:44,860 --> 00:44:46,900 that's not self-evident. 861 00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:51,300 And if I have to describe it, then I start doubting. 862 00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,740 So if it's self-evident and you can believe it 863 00:44:54,740 --> 00:44:56,140 and you can feel it in your body, 864 00:44:56,140 --> 00:44:58,620 that doesn't mean it's not science. 865 00:44:58,620 --> 00:45:00,100 Oh, I love that. 866 00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:01,140 So real. 867 00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:04,620 Well, and it gets back to the root of what's broken. 868 00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:07,980 And that is our connection to ourselves 869 00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:12,380 as fully functional gods, goddesses, whatever you, 870 00:45:12,380 --> 00:45:14,580 like in complete control of ourselves, 871 00:45:14,580 --> 00:45:17,180 that we have intuition. 872 00:45:17,180 --> 00:45:20,900 And by human design, all of this information is within us. 873 00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:23,020 We just have to unlock our hearts. 874 00:45:23,020 --> 00:45:23,660 Yeah. 875 00:45:23,660 --> 00:45:24,980 Well, I love that. 876 00:45:24,980 --> 00:45:26,420 We love that. 877 00:45:26,420 --> 00:45:28,780 That is 100% the way that we feel as well. 878 00:45:28,780 --> 00:45:31,580 We could talk about this for hours. 879 00:45:31,580 --> 00:45:33,140 This is, I'm excited. 880 00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:36,460 We will return in March on the 22nd. 881 00:45:36,460 --> 00:45:39,940 So join us again for a deeper conversation 882 00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:43,860 about what is your baby telling you and are you listening? 883 00:45:43,860 --> 00:45:44,820 Thank you. 884 00:45:44,820 --> 00:45:46,500 Thank you so much. 885 00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:47,740 All right, that was our episode. 886 00:45:47,740 --> 00:45:49,140 Thank you so much for listening. 887 00:45:49,140 --> 00:45:50,540 I'm going to do our little outro. 888 00:45:50,540 --> 00:45:53,460 So remember, if you are ready to sign up for our Brain 889 00:45:53,460 --> 00:45:55,620 Reorganization program, use promo code 890 00:45:55,620 --> 00:45:59,660 BRAINIAC to get $10 off your very first payment. 891 00:45:59,660 --> 00:46:02,060 And please subscribe, share this episode, 892 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