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Hi and welcome to the In The Cortex podcast.

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We are your hosts.

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I'm Paloma Garcia.

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And I am Danny Parakoni.

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And we're the founders of In The Cortex, an online community with programs that show

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people the tools that they need to change their lives, their brain reorganization, no

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medication, just movement.

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When you get your brain out of survival mode and regulate your nervous system, you start

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to live in the fun, logical part of the brain, the cortex.

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Subscribe today and learn how to live your best in the cortex life.

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And now, on to today's episode.

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Let's start off with a quick cortex moment from one of our members.

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Hello, this is Sunny, a member of the In The Cortex course.

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And I have a story to relate about sports.

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And last week, I played golf for the first time in about 15 years, and I truly had not

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even picked up a club in that time frame.

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And the game last week, I have to say, was my best game I've ever played.

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And I know 100% it's because of the brain training that I've been doing with the In

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The Cortex course.

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And I've only been doing this brain training, it was about four weeks.

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But I could feel that my brain, I can clearly remember being at that first T, waiting for

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my turn to T up.

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And I felt that my brain was extremely organized.

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It was as if it were humming, laser focused.

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I knew what I was going to do.

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And when I got up and took the swing, it was that rhythm that felt just so natural.

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But there was, again, that little bit of a hum to it where the swing was absolutely perfect.

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So I know that it was the brain training.

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And I also have another aspect of playing with someone new for the first time.

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I would normally get a little bit of the jitters and be anxious, you know, performance anxiety.

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But that did not happen.

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I just, I felt confident, I felt sure and whatever it was going to be, it was fine.

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So emotionally, I was there ready and relaxed to play.

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So I am extremely pleased with my golf game, with my brain and with the in the cortex course.

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Hello and welcome back to another episode of our podcast.

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We are so excited to talk about this awesome theme that we have for today.

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Oh, yeah.

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And before we do, we want to give a quick disclaimer that we're going to be talking

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about things that, you know, might kind of hit a trigger point and might make you feel

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like we're talking directly to you.

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And this is not to make you feel that this is to bring education into your mindset of

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us to looking at what is going on in your life from a different perspective.

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And we always are rooted in talking about it from how the brain is wired.

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So with that said, we are talking about personality traits and the brain.

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And is there a common connection there?

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And this came from a question from one of our listeners.

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So if you ever have questions about anything that we're talking about, please send them

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to us at hello to in the cortex.

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And we love to be able to break it down from the brain perspective every time.

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Yes.

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This is such a good question.

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And it all goes back to a dysregulated nervous system can make you look and act like someone

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that you're not.

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And so that's a really huge piece that we're trying to communicate here.

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And like Danny, you and I talk about this all the time, how your brain being in survival

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mode, being in that fight or flight dysregulation can make you act in ways that are absolutely

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different from who you are as a person.

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But somehow that always gets interpreted or that sometimes gets interpreted as who you

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are.

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So let's say, for example, we have a very common example of people having a tough time

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dealing with something in public and people record them and put them on Tik Tok with them

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on Instagram when they are pretty much at one of their worst points probably.

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And that person is going to get labeled with that, you know, oh, that person is a total

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whatever you insert word here.

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And that's not always who they are.

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They just might have been reacting in not the best way.

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And so that's really the whole point of this podcast, I think, is to create more empathy

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for others and understand that it's not always as black and white as, oh, that person is

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just a blank, you know, it's usually a lot deeper than that.

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Something thinks that your personality is a fixed representation of who you will be for

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the rest of your life.

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And for us here in the cortex, that would have made us be like for me, I'll speak for

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my own self, a hot mass express.

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If you read the bio on the website, I was a hot mass.

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Like I just could not handle life like a regulated person could.

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And so I was always seen as just being like so crazy.

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And I definitely do still have, you know, I've got my quirks and I've got my fun personality

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that I like to call it.

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But I also just own it now and I'm like, okay, but I'm regulated within my silliness.

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I am not the hot mass who's just totally lost all the time and showing up late and disheveled

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and flying off the handle and just constantly in this state of just like, this crazy energy

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coming into a room.

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Our buddy Dr. Joe Dispenza says is your personality is your personal reality.

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So if your personal reality is rooted in dysregulation, if you feel that everything coming at you

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is a threat, that is going to represent how you respond to the world.

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neural connection as to up, there's a threat.

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This is my go to response.

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And it's rooted in fight, flight, freeze or fawn.

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Those are our four survival reflexes on how we handle threats coming at us.

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There are a lot of moments where people are into survival and we're just trying to share

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that there's a time for survival, but the majority of your day should not be in that.

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Excluding all the stuff that's happening right now.

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That's why it's so hard.

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I think that what Joe Dispenza, our biggest fan says, and we know he's not our biggest

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fan right now, but hey, we're manifesting it.

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We're creating our personal reality in that sense.

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Joe, call us.

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And what I think that part that makes it so powerful, what he says is it's giving you

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ownership of that stuff.

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And so that's what we say all the time is we're giving ownership over what's going

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We all have our quirks and our little things here and there, but that's also being able

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to embrace the parts of you that are maybe not aligned 100% with who you want to be

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is also a brain function.

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So now we're going to break down.

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We took six different personality traits that are very common in today's world.

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There's obviously a whole lot more, but we didn't want to make it too long.

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And so we're going to break down different personality traits and how we see that connected

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to the brain and how a brain, when it's insurviable or dysregulated is showing up.

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So the first one, the perfectionist, the person who really seeks to find perfection

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in themselves and in the world around them and goes to great lengths to make that their

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perceived reality.

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And we've all seen this happen before.

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This is the person who they actually really own that perfectionist and they actually like

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really are verbal about it.

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They say, well, I'm just a perfectionist.

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Or I have OCD.

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And what they're saying is that they even if they don't have that diagnosis, which is

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a big deal.

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Because now everyone kind of knows OCD, obsessive compulsive disorder.

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I need things to be in a certain way in order for me to feel good about myself.

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I didn't seek the perfection, but I needed my outside environment to be a specific way

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before I could go do a task because our outside when that's in control and order, it helps

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call my system to them, be able to focus a little bit better on whatever the task at

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hand is.

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So the perfectionist is really that controlling person that and this is what's cool.

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We can actually see how you creep, how you do a movement called Exploding Rocks.

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That's working on the moral reflex.

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And we could tell if that perfection quality or personality is in you by the way that you're

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So the way you just moved across the floor, it lets us know that your brain seeks control

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in almost in a sense of bringing out the fight in you.

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The fawn response, remember, is the one who's just the people, please say, I go with the

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flow, I do whatever.

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I abandoned myself to please the others around me.

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their way through like, no, it's cool.

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Like I just need the table to be set like this.

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Like it's fine.

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Like I got this.

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Like, no, it's fine.

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I got all the things.

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And there are the person who's on Pinterest and this is not to shame anyone.

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This is just to bring to light that these are the sorts of personality traits that we think

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we own, but really it's the brain and it's needing that perfection in our world because

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that's how we perceive like that we are coming through even though it's not authentically

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who we are.

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it's clear that we're not saying that OCD is not real.

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We're just saying that a lot of people identify it with it, even though they haven't, they

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don't have that diagnosis.

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They just have this survival response in them that's looking for this perfection or for

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controlling things.

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But it might not be a compulsion for everybody.

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to be so perfect.

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And I still have some of that now, right?

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I love when things are like perfectly written out.

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I love when my environment is set up in a specific way.

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I love to have every single tool that I need for every new project, right?

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Like the right one.

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I'm like a gear person.

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If I'm going to do a new activity, I want to get all the gear that goes, you know, that

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you're supposed to have for that one thing.

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And so that's kind of like what you're saying where you're a lot of the time it doesn't necessarily

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look like, Oh, what we might think like, Oh, their house is perfect.

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It might not, you might not be able to see it from the outside, right?

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ways to create that perfection, quote unquote, in different parts of their lives, right?

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And so for me, a lot of that was like trying to set up things with my life, my job, my

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relationships, everything had to be in a certain way.

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So if I, for example, if there was a change in plans and what we were going to do for

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a weekend, I would just be like, Nope, I'm not going to go anymore.

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And a lot of that is the envisioning is a big part of it are going to overlap, right?

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It's not like one personality type.

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We're not talking about like, you know, the enneagrams or something like that.

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This is, lots of people have different parts of these qualities, right?

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And so it's that controlling also helps you understand that you don't have to worry about

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the future, right?

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So you think, Oh, like all these things could possibly happen, literally everything's unpredictable

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in the entire world because that's life.

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And so by your, by you thinking that you have this mental structure for things that you're

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going to do, for how things look, for who's going to say, you know, who's going to say

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what, who's going to get along well, you know, I think about this a lot in like social situations

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for me, logically, you know, you can't actually control those things, right?

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But just giving yourself that kind of break of like from worry is I think the biggest

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piece of the perfectionism.

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Anxiety.

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It's rooted in anxiety because as you were talking about, I like my environment to be

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a specific way.

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I like this to have this.

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It's the anxiety when you don't have it.

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And we can all have preferences.

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This is really important.

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We can all have preferences.

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I prefer for my house to be clean and organized and that's okay.

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But do I still have that feeling of getting anxious about it and now I can't do other things

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anymore?

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So before brain work, I couldn't function.

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I couldn't move on.

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I was so frustrated.

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And now with brain work, I'm like, okay, I have two children.

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So clearly my house is never going to reach organizations.

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You know, no matter how many times we talk about it, they're just not there yet developmentally.

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So we I oftentimes can just go, okay, well, in order for us to make this work, I can now

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release the need to help me feel like everything needs to be in a perfect spot and can container

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basically and I don't have anxiety that overrides me.

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So that's a lot for a lot of people.

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I will say also like eight more ADHD types, like people that are identifying more with

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the challenges related to ADHD, perfectionism can come and go and waves.

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And so that's something that's big for me is like, and I've shown this before on our

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our Tik Tok and Instagram, like I can tell when I need to crawl and when I'm overdoing

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it or like feeling very dysregulated by looking at the state of like my room and my place,

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right?

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If I see that there's like clothes everywhere, everything's all over the place.

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I'm like, oh, time to go crawl.

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But then sometimes it goes to the opposite.

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So when I become super, super like everything is perfect.

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Everything is exactly in the right place and nothing can move.

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If I take a cup, I have to put it back exactly in the exact place where it was.

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I'm going to wash it dry and put it back.

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That's when I'm like, okay, I also am dysregulated, right?

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So I can go to both extremes.

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And I'm thinking of when I moved in here to LA, I'm only staying at this place for three

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months, but I did a deep clean of everything.

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I moved everything around.

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I structured it exactly in the perfect way.

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I set up all the drawers in this way and I was like that for a few days and I was like,

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dude, you got to get your brainwork in because I was just like hyper fixated on how everything

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was not in the right place or like some things were dirty because like, you know, sometimes

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things are dirty.

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It's not the end of the world.

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I was like cleaning every single day and doing this stuff.

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And I was like, well, that maybe is a little bit of a reflection of how I'm feeling from

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moving again and all this stuff, right?

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And so that's also where I'm able to be like, that's okay.

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It's not a big deal, but I'm noticing it in myself whereas before I just would have gone

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like that for months.

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Right.

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And that's so exhausting.

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And two things you did that the first thing was relating back to transitions.

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So transitioning.

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So you transition from one place to another in the move.

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And you also talked about transitioning in something else and that is a mid brain function

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of being able to pick something up and go again at it whenever the time calls that you

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can.

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And it's being able to do it with grace and ease.

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And so this is where we see a lot of people who become and we see this on, I see always

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on social media where moms are like constantly feeling that they have to do so many things

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at home and they start a project and then they go to that project and then that project

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requires another project.

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And then all you've done is like bopped around the house into 30 different rooms and you're

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just like, I've got an actually nothing completed.

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I just have a really, really, really long to do list.

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That's crawling.

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But another thing you mentioned too, because we've been talking about this because we've

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been very heavy in our brain work.

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We've been doing it every single day now for going on nine weeks, right?

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Yeah.

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And you talked about needing to have everything perfect, but you've released that in me writing

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the emails and because I've also stuck to liking writing, which was new for me because

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I did not like writing ever.

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I would sit there and just like writer's block words do not come out.

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And now I'm like, oh, I actually enjoy this.

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Like I actually, I'm like, okay, writing things and writing emails and doing all these things.

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I'm like, fine.

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And so now we've seen that in our partnership of I can pick up some stuff and you've released

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it.

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So it's beautiful.

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This is why every partnership needs brain work.

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Absolutely.

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You talked a lot about too, as we were talking about the perfectionist and we started to

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talk about the over thinker.

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And that was the person who is overthinking, over analyzing who's going to sit where at

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the table because of this and all these things.

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So that's another big personality trait that's like, hold on, let me overthink this and let

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me sit there because your executive function is not able just to see it clearly.

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And then be okay with it once you finally make a decision.

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I would seriously, and that's a reflex too, by the way, a primitive reflex that does not

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let you make decisions when you sit at the store and stare for hours and like, how can

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I do this?

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I'm going to share with my fiance.

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He's a really good executive decision maker.

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Like he can just see it, make it, do it.

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And I'll stand there and I'm like, oh my gosh, what do you do?

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And he's like, do that.

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I'm like, oh, thank you.

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So now that my brain works coming on, then I'm like, hold on, I don't need your executive

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function skills anymore.

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I've got these now.

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They're working on their own, but I was the classic over thinker.

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I would overthink and then after the experience or situation, I would still go lay embedded

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and ruminate on why that was not the best idea.

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Oh yeah.

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And that's, that's the people that get really upset when somebody won't respond to their

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text message.

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And so they start like going into this like spiral of, oh, maybe this thing that I said

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to, they didn't like it.

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And maybe it's because this person talks to them and they told them about this and then

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they thought that I was mean because blah, blah.

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And maybe this is because, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And they'll get to you, you know, three hours later and they're like, oh, hey, I just, I

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was at the gym.

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I didn't have my phone.

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And you're like, ah, then they're like, okay, just kidding.

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And then that person feels bad after being like, why am I so, why do I do this?

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Why do I do it?

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Why do I catastrophize everything?

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And this is what the news is so good at doing, right?

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Because when you watch the news, you live in fear.

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You're like, oh, gosh.

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The media just told me that the world is coming to an end and now I need to prep for that.

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And that is truly a survival, a true survival situation.

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And what do we know about being in survival mode is that you are a captive listening audience

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because you are literally sitting on the edge of your seat.

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What am I going to do next?

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So the overthinker, the perfectionist, those two people are glued to it.

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And that is the pawn.

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So when you get on your belly and you try to move across the floor, you will be that

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person.

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You're like, oh my gosh, that sounds like meme.

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We already know what your creep is going to look like.

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Send it in though.

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Tag us in your videos.

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Yes, because I'm going to give you personalized, like, yes, that is truly what it is.

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And the best part is as you move on the floor, your brain figures out a more efficient way

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to move.

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And all of a sudden, the overthinking and the perfectionism just slowly starts to dim.

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And it just turns off a bit because it's like, oh, wait, I don't actually need to be in

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survival mode at this point.

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And this is why I love talking about this because those people are like, wait, that wasn't

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actually who I was.

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That wasn't actually my personality.

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Yeah, I'm able to operate without doing that.

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And it doesn't mean it's going to go away forever.

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Once you start to regulate, yeah.

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Exactly.

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Because once you regulate and your cortisol level starts to drop, then you know, and you

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change your system to not crave that anymore.

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Exactly.

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Then you don't need to go get those hits of cortisol and adrenaline running through your

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system.

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And you understand what it creates in your body, right?

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Because before you're constantly on that hypervigilance level.

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And so more hypervigilance, you're like, okay, got it.

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But if you're able to regulate and you're going down to your baseline, your baseline

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is much lower and much calmer when you do watch the news and you feel that spike, you're

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like, oh, I don't like this.

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I don't want to watch it anymore.

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Right.

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So that's also a huge thing brain wise.

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But it's also like a lot of this stuff also can come from the subconscious beliefs, right?

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So for example, for the perfectionism, I know for me and for a lot of other people who have

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a similar background to me, I was always told that I was the smartest person that's ever

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lived that everything was always going to be easy for me, that I would never have to

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try hard for anything.

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And so what that created in my mind was, okay, so I'm the genius of the world.

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And so everything has to be easy for me.

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And that was true for a while, right?

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Because I was a kindergarten, like, you know, whatever.

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That's not a hard demand.

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I'm like, that was easy for the first month of life.

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And I'm just kidding.

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But after a while, like when I would see challenges, my brain is like, absolutely not.

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Like if I'm not going to be perfect at that, I'm not going to do it.

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And so that's another thing that created this mechanism for me, right?

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And that's why something that still comes up because it's part of the way that I operated

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for so, so, so long.

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And so same with the overthinking, right?

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If you're somebody who has that pattern in you from when you were younger, maybe walking

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into a house that you didn't know what people were going to react to, react to positively

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and react to negatively, you didn't know what was going to happen.

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So your brain starts to say, okay, before I go into any new scenario, before I wake

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up in the morning, before I go to school, before I even talk to somebody, I'm going

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to run through every single possible scenario just in case.

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Positive negative, usually negative, because that's what our brain is made to focus on.

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And that's something that creates it.

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So you have a belief in yourself that maybe it's not, I have to be perfect.

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It's in this case, it is I, everything is unpredictable.

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I never know what's going to happen and I should be scared about, you know, I'm afraid

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of the world, I'm afraid of people's reactions.

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And so that's also going to play into it.

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So that's just to say, when you do your brain work, it's not like every single challenge

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in your life disappears, it just becomes so much more manageable.

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And so now I'm able to see, oh, I'm feeling a little bit, my perfectionist tendencies

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come up, what's going on in my life emotionally.

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I'm able to sit down, maybe journal a little bit, be like, okay, this is what it is.

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I'm going to address it with a reconnect, getting straight into the subconscious, or

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I'm going to creep it out on the floor or I'm going to do whatever it is.

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And that toolbox is there now.

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Whereas before it would just be something that I'm like, why am I like this?

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What is going on?

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You know, what's wrong with me?

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Exactly.

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What's wrong with me?

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So many people do that.

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And after you just said that, I feel like I resonated so deeply with that because I

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had to do the overthinking because I was living in a space where so many people were dysregulated

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and it was so unpredictable.

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And that is such a compensation is such a coping mechanism to get through life.

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And that I want to go into the hothead next because that's what I experienced a lot of

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like growing up with my dad, who is a very big hothead.

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And we have now evidence of him just it's going away.

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It's great.

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Like we were recording the other day and we watched something happen.

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I was in my room watching through the window, my dad doing something and I was like, oh,

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he's going to explode.

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And I was like, yeah, oh my gosh, this is huge because he used to think that my whole family,

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they all think like, oh, it's the Italian gene that just came through.

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Everyone's just a hothead screaming at everybody.

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It's like, well, probably a lot of people who need to creep and then a lot of reflexes

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that need to get integrated.

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But then to that subconscious and that's an epigenetic thing that comes through where

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we're just passing down these beliefs from our ancestors on to the next generation.

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And that's why we love our work is because we are breaking generational cycles that are

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no longer working in today's world.

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Exactly.

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So to identify the hothead, it's the person and I was very much this person.

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I was me too.

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Like the literal dandamole in college.

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Like I thought I would get onto the field hockey field and literally end people's lives

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because I was like, that's what I'm being paid to do.

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And I was like, or we're playing a game, y'all.

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Like, so it was pretty insane.

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But what was crazy about being the hothead is I had so much adrenaline constantly pushing

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through my body and cortisol levels were so insane.

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And anytime someone said something to me, it was just, oh yeah, you want to go, huh?

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Is that a fight?

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And it was always interpreted like that.

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And that's the person who has the road rage.

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That's the person who's constantly thinking that they are being attacked and they have

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to fight the world in every regard.

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And so when you go into that space, it's so hard because your immune system is being bombarded

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with cortisol, which is the stress hormone.

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And that literally will kill off your immune system and makes it so hard for you to fight

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off anything that's coming your way.

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I was sick so much.

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Now that I look back at how sick I used to be about everything that went around, I was

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like, I was sick.

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And now I don't get sick nearly as often.

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That's a good point, Danny.

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I haven't gotten sick in so long.

467
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,760
Isn't that crazy?

468
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:39,760
And I used to be sick all the time.

469
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,760
I used to have like colds.

470
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,760
Like think about the first couple of years we were working, I always had like a cold or

471
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,240
like more often.

472
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,240
Whoa, okay.

473
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,240
Isn't that wild?

474
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,240
I know.

475
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:54,440
So thinking about and always the people who are in a really big fear space will get sick

476
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,360
more often, will have the experience of whatever is going on.

477
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:58,880
And that's what we say, turn off the news.

478
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,800
Because if you turn off the news, you don't know what's going on in the world.

479
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,320
And that's, I know that sounds a little ignorant, but it's really, I used to battle this all

480
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,600
the time in my own head.

481
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:14,040
Like, how do I get through today's issues and challenges if I'm ignorant to what's happening?

482
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,240
And obviously I'm still connected through social media, but the difference now is my

483
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,840
nervous system doesn't even correspond to what's happening on that negative level.

484
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:29,080
And I can keep myself in a regulated space to keep on showing how do we keep the balance

485
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,080
world going?

486
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,080
Because we do have to move forward through it, right?

487
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,720
I mean, if we look at human history, war has been a conflict between humans since the

488
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,600
day we came onto this planet.

489
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,320
Like it's embedded within us.

490
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,120
And if we all participate in it, it's just going to amplify all the challenges.

491
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:51,840
But if us, and we can move ourselves through a balanced state, hear both sides of the argument,

492
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,520
come from it on a rational agreement, like that's what we always say, we could probably

493
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,840
help the whole world if we all could just creep and be like, hey, we're all human at

494
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,400
the end of the day.

495
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,400
What can we do to help each other?

496
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,800
I know that sounds like such an idealistic view, but.

497
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,200
No, but it's good to have ideals.

498
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,040
And I think that it's also like we were saying at the beginning of the episode, this is a

499
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,160
really important thing to keep in mind when we start to judge people for the way that

500
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,680
they act and the way that they react, I should say, because a lot of the time it's really

501
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,800
just their brain, like those hotheaded people especially.

502
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,800
And those are the people.

503
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:29,040
And if you're somebody who has lived this or who knows somebody like this, they usually

504
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,120
feel really bad about it afterward.

505
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:36,720
And they're just like, you know, and that regret is also where the overthinker goes, what's

506
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,720
wrong with me?

507
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,720
Why was I overthinking that?

508
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,960
Why was I catastrophizing everything?

509
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,160
The hothead will go, what's wrong with me?

510
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,280
Why am I such a blank?

511
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,880
You know, why am I so mean?

512
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,160
Why am I so angry and aggressive toward people?

513
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,960
Nobody's going to love me ever.

514
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,560
And so that's a lot of same mechanism that keeps them in that, right?

515
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,560
Because a part of them is like, well, I don't really know who I am without my anger.

516
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,680
I don't know who I am without my reactions.

517
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,720
And that's something that was very clear to me as well.

518
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,760
I think when I started doing all the brain work and stuff and I started uncovering more

519
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:14,920
of like my true personality, a lot of me was like thinking that I still had to keep up

520
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,120
this kind of like Regina George mean girl routine.

521
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,560
And then I was like, no, I'm Katie Herron.

522
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,800
I'm not Regina George.

523
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,560
Like, I was like, I genuinely don't have to be that person.

524
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,640
And like, it's okay to let go of that.

525
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,280
It was just a narrative that was very ingrained in me.

526
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:37,080
Like I have to be that like queen bee, that like main person who is judging everybody

527
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,360
and saying little, you know, catty things about people.

528
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:42,080
And it's just not the truth, right?

529
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,280
And I didn't have to do it, but it was hard for me to let go of that for a long time.

530
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:51,800
And also some part of like the little, you know, attitude is also just my personality.

531
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,280
Like I'm just somebody who is able to, who just looks at things in a certain way and

532
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,960
will always say her opinion, but it doesn't always have to be like a mean thing that you're

533
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:04,640
saying to somebody, putting them down and being rude to people that there's no reason

534
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,640
to do it.

535
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,640
You know what I mean?

536
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,640
Right.

537
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,160
Cause when you're in survival mode, you only think about yourself and you only think about

538
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,720
how am I going to get through this.

539
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,240
And when you come out of it, you can still have your quirky fun personality, but now

540
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,240
you can empathize, now you can have compassion when you have an opinion.

541
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,680
You can go, okay, I have mine and you're entitled to yours.

542
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,960
And we can still get along even though we have different ways of seeing a situation.

543
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,120
And that's a brain work we'll do for you.

544
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:35,360
It will literally help you find your true authentic self and how you really see the world and

545
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:40,560
it will make it so you can just accept and truly surrender.

546
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,160
It's like that when you look at Maslow's hierarchy of all humans and basic needs, the

547
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,520
top is that transcendence where you can literally just gracefully move through life.

548
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,640
We're all moving towards it.

549
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,360
We all have different ways of trying to go about it.

550
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,520
And for us, our biggest modality is the brain work.

551
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,800
That'll take you to that point where you can let the little things go and you don't have

552
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:00,800
to be the hothead.

553
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:01,800
I love not being a hothead.

554
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:08,840
I love being a pacifist and I love being able to find both sides of the story.

555
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,880
I love being in the middle, navigating, mediating all these conversations and saying, I hear

556
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,400
you and I hear you and here's another way to see it too.

557
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,400
And I love that.

558
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,880
Before when I was the hothead, it was exhausting.

559
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,560
I did not like being waking up and going, okay, welcome to the battlefield today.

560
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,560
What am I going to tackle now?

561
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,080
You know, that's not, it's not a fun situation for you or for anybody around you.

562
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,080
Right.

563
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,640
And so I think the opposite of that is the avoider.

564
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,200
So that's the person who's like, fawn.

565
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,840
So fight flight-free fawn.

566
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:45,880
And like you said earlier, the fawn is abandoning yourself in order to keep the peace or to keep

567
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,480
a situation peaceful, right?

568
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,800
In general.

569
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:54,040
And that's a huge one and I think that a lot of people do this when they're people pleasers,

570
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,800
when they're like overly agreeable, when there's kind of go with whatever the flow is, go with

571
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,520
whatever's going on in order to not rock the boat, right?

572
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,800
That's a big one.

573
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,240
And sometimes it gets to the point where they need to rock the boat for something that's

574
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,680
going on in their life.

575
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,360
There's something, you know, these are the people that are going to end up being taken

576
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,560
advantage of.

577
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560
And these are the people that don't know where their boundaries are.

578
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,720
And so at some point they need to put this boundary up.

579
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,920
They need to speak up for themselves, but they're physiologically not able to do so.

580
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:30,000
I honestly, I know someone very well that identifies with this.

581
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,720
And for me, I'm like, just have the conversation.

582
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,720
And they're just like, I can't.

583
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,000
I don't even know why, but my body is just not able to move through it.

584
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,840
And then what happens is then you start to get really sick because you're holding onto

585
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,040
this trapped energy that can't find its way out.

586
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,320
And this is where we bring in the reconnects.

587
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,360
That's the second part of our program that we dive into the subconscious.

588
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,360
Why can't you?

589
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,360
Why can't you hold a boundary?

590
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,360
Exactly.

591
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,640
And I actually just had a conversation with this person and we're like, well, our parents

592
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,040
never showed us what healthy boundaries look like.

593
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,760
It was always like dancing around and then all of a sudden, what too far and then explosion

594
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,960
like that just crossed out.

595
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,960
That's it.

596
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:08,960
Exactly.

597
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,760
And you're like, and that's such a big thing.

598
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,320
Like so many people do that and they don't even notice and then they have these massive

599
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,880
explosions and that's also adrenaline.

600
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,200
And so they're used to operating that way and just like hold everything and hold it

601
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,640
in, hold it in, hold it in and then massive explosion and then hold it in, hold it in,

602
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,640
hold it in.

603
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,640
Right.

604
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,640
So how many people do you know?

605
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,280
I feel like people that are listening also, I know so many people that operate this way.

606
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,120
So many families or relationships that operate this way.

607
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,120
And it's okay.

608
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,960
Like, and this is where a lot of it is, we've talked about trauma before, we've talked about

609
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,760
a lot of stuff is you are not what happened to you.

610
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,240
You are not the thoughts that are in your head.

611
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,560
You are not the emotions you're feeling.

612
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Those are just things that are coming through you and we are big proponents of feel it,

613
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,960
let it come in you, feel the anger, feel the sadness, let it come in you and let it come

614
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,600
out of you and doing it in a healthy, responsible way is the key part.

615
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,520
And this is where brainwreck will help you get to that of being able to recognize, oh

616
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,680
my gosh, I can't believe I've held that in for so long.

617
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,600
I'm ready to hold my boundary.

618
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:19,680
And I know somebody who they held it in for 20 years and then they just got to that breaking

619
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,000
point and then it's extreme.

620
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,200
It's vengeance.

621
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,480
It's doing behaviors that are like, whoa, that's very out of line with society and how

622
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,960
we see what you're doing.

623
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,800
And I've seen this happen.

624
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,480
I'm watching someone go through this and it's just, it's really sad because you're like,

625
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:42,000
I know that if you did your brain work, you would be able to say, hey, I didn't like how

626
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,000
that felt.

627
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,240
Yes.

628
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,400
And here's what I would like for you to say to me in the future.

629
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,200
But when you don't have those connections in your brain, I've experienced this 100 times

630
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,200
when I'm like really sad.

631
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,160
I'm like, I really want to hug, but I'm going to show up as a fight.

632
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,400
Right now, I'm saying these things instead and be like, can you read my mind that I

633
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,720
just need you to hold me like my four-year-old daughter does, right?

634
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,920
It's such a child thing I did.

635
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,440
And now when you're aware of it, you're like, oh, that's pretty fun.

636
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,440
Yeah.

637
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,520
And I think like, for example, a lot of people will do like, we have a friend who, I have

638
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,680
a friend who did the program.

639
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:21,520
And one of her biggest changes was I'm able to actually say no and like, but it's boundry

640
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,480
that I remember when she said it, she was like, I don't know if this is like a good thing

641
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,560
or if it's part of the program, but for me, it's a really good thing.

642
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,600
And I was like, yes, this is great.

643
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,600
It's amazing.

644
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,280
And you wouldn't think that it's like a positive thing to say no to people.

645
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,280
You know what I mean?

646
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,680
But in the same, but it actually is because it's something that you've struggled with.

647
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,680
That's great.

648
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,520
If it's the opposite where you're like, you always have boundaries and now you're saying,

649
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,240
no, no, no, to more things and you're becoming more of like a hermit, which is something that

650
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,240
I do often where I just like will shut down from the world.

651
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,480
That's where I would become a problem.

652
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,480
Right.

653
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,400
But if it's the opposite and this is something you've been wanting to be able to do, it's

654
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,400
amazing.

655
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,640
And it's very common with these, um, fawn people.

656
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,320
And I think that sometimes goes hand in hand with the scatterbrain, which is another one

657
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,240
of our, of our personality types because scatterbrains, I think a lot of the time because they're

658
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:15,080
all over the place, they feel like they're not really tied down to things.

659
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,480
They'll also avoid things very often.

660
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,000
No, it's kind of like that, the, that person who's kind of like flaky doesn't always want

661
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,440
to commit to things.

662
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,720
They're kind of all over the place.

663
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:26,800
They're going to miss appointments, put everything, you know, to the last moment and procrastinate

664
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,120
on everything possible.

665
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,640
And that's also very similar.

666
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,680
Well, I was going to say, actually, um, this kind of maybe open up a little debate here,

667
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,760
but I was going to say that the, the voider is more like the victim because when they

668
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:44,400
avoid the conversation and they're not willing to have the conversation, then the world is

669
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,800
happening to them.

670
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,680
And they just don't know why things keep happening to them because they were never able to stand

671
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:56,400
up for themselves and hold that line of this is okay for me.

672
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:02,000
And I'm saying this because I know that person with the fawn personality traits very well.

673
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,200
And I, there were always a moment I was like, okay, this has to be like the rock bottom.

674
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,480
This has to be the it for you.

675
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,560
This has to be the point where you're like, okay, now I'm done being a dormant, I am going

676
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,360
to stand up for myself.

677
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,400
And then something else would happen.

678
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,560
It's like, I don't know why it keeps happening to me.

679
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,800
And that victim mindset is always the person who's seeing the glass half empty, seeing

680
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,640
what's wrong in the world.

681
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:33,160
They always have the doom and gloom personality because they haven't stood up to the world.

682
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,960
They haven't said, Hey, this is who I am.

683
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,640
I'm authentically myself.

684
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,480
And I am going to say this is what I demand from the world around me.

685
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,440
And you don't do it like saying, everyone now needs to respond how I need them to respond.

686
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,040
You're just doing it from the inside out.

687
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,040
Right.

688
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,040
And we see that right now.

689
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:55,720
We're just saying this is how I need you to address me so I feel good about myself.

690
00:35:55,720 --> 00:36:00,280
And again, that's that victim mindset where things are happening to me and you need to

691
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,120
make your world uncomfortable to make me more comfortable.

692
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,520
Yeah, absolutely.

693
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,800
And that's from a brain perspective, very much a survival response, right?

694
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,800
It's a hundred percent.

695
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,240
I can only think about myself.

696
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:17,200
And that's even when people get into labeling others as narcissists, for example, that person

697
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,440
might not necessarily be an actual narcissist.

698
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,240
I mean, there's a very small percentage of people that are truly diagnosed narcissists.

699
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:28,640
They're acting in this way because their brain just does not allow them to see anything out

700
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,640
of themselves.

701
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,440
That is not to excuse people that are acting this way.

702
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,480
It's to explain why for some people, this is just the way that they operate.

703
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,440
So everything seems like it's coming at you and it's directed at you and you are the victim

704
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,480
of these things because that's just the way your brain is set up.

705
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:50,840
So your primitive brain can only see things as a threat and an attack to you.

706
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,120
When I was doing this work more and more, because I identified with at least every single

707
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,720
one of these personality traits in my life.

708
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,640
And I was like, oh, I was this, this and this.

709
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,680
And now that I've come out of it, I'm not saying that I'm a perfect human, but now I

710
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,040
can identify and I can explain, oh, no, I know why my response was that.

711
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,120
And here's what I'm going to do about it to shift it for the future.

712
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:19,040
And the part for me is now I can, it's hard sometimes to be in a group where you're like,

713
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,320
okay, I can see the information happening.

714
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,360
And again, we all have our own perception of what reality is, right?

715
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,160
Who really knows what's actually happening?

716
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,360
It's just kind of trippy, like, do you see what I see kind of thing?

717
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,960
And like, I really go, do you see that trait?

718
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,640
Is it the same way that it looks to you?

719
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,920
I don't know that I go into those weird spaces sometimes.

720
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,720
But in reality is like, before I couldn't do that, like I couldn't think of the world

721
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:42,720
that way.

722
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:47,600
And now I can do this zoomed out version and go, okay, I see how everything's operating

723
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,840
going down.

724
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,720
I'm not going to take to heart when someone comes at me and attacks me because now I just

725
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:54,920
go, oh, they're just projecting.

726
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,040
I can see what's happening with them.

727
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,600
And I'm going to hold space and send them love and compassion.

728
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,600
And you know, if they get on board and all of a sudden want to take ownership for their

729
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,600
behavior, awesome.

730
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,440
But if they don't, that's not my problem either.

731
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,000
But I got to keep moving through it.

732
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Yeah.

733
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,440
And also it's okay to also feel annoyed by them in the moment and be like, ugh.

734
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,440
You know what I mean?

735
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,000
Like I also feel like I don't want it to sound like we're saying we only have to hold grace

736
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,880
and compassion for me all the time.

737
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,880
Like feel your feelings.

738
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,440
Like it's okay to be annoyed when you see people acting that way.

739
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,680
I vent every time.

740
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,680
Right?

741
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,680
Yeah.

742
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,680
Venting.

743
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,120
Righted down, you know, journaling, venting.

744
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,760
You got to deal with it at one point.

745
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,640
But then at this, but then when you get through that emotion of it, and then you can zoom

746
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,400
out and then you could see it as like, okay, now I see why you're responding this way.

747
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,640
Now you're able to hold more love and compassion.

748
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,000
It's not easy, but that's going to get you closer to that top part of the pyramid of

749
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,720
being able to transcend past all these things that are on the surface and really going,

750
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:58,160
and Michael Singer did say this in his book on Tethered.

751
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,560
He goes, we're all just like on this planet floating around for a short period of time.

752
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,280
Like what are we going to spend our time doing?

753
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,080
Is it to be a catty person and to talk about people behind their back?

754
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,000
Or is it because you're here on this planet to like really make change and help humanity

755
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,440
and grow in some capacity and experience your life?

756
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,440
Absolutely.

757
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,440
Yeah.

758
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,040
Versus experiencing other people's lives.

759
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:27,000
And so this is where our main message here is that you are not the personality that you've

760
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,040
given yourself unless you are cool with it and you want to keep it, that's up to you.

761
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,880
But if you're like, I've been the hothead, the overthinker, the perfectionist, the avoider,

762
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:40,200
the scatterbrain, the victim, and none of it has ever given me that full feeling of authenticity

763
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,520
and this is my purpose, we're here to tell you that there is something you can do about

764
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,520
it.

765
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,960
And all you have to do are some fun movements on the floor every day.

766
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,920
And then all of a sudden your brain's like, wow, life can be easier.

767
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,640
And then we guide you through that in our program.

768
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,880
It's 12 modules.

769
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,120
You do them at your own pace.

770
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,480
You have lifetime access.

771
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,360
Our goal is for this to be a lifestyle where you wake up in the morning, you do your brainwork,

772
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,520
you regulate your nervous system, you move on through your day.

773
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,400
And it truly can be that simple.

774
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:15,440
And I'm watching it with me, my kids, my parents, my fiance, his kids, everybody I know that

775
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,000
in Paloma, right, because we talk about all the time, we are just moving through things

776
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,080
just so much more gracefully and with ease.

777
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,240
It doesn't mean we don't have challenges, but we have the tools now.

778
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:28,920
We can now see a situation go, oh, I can work through this.

779
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,360
I can handle this.

780
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,320
Now I don't need my coping mechanisms like I used to.

781
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,040
But that is what we're trying to share is that you can shift your personal reality.

782
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,320
You can, all the people who talk about manifesting, all the people who talk about regulating their

783
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,200
nervous systems, we are a bottom up approach.

784
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,320
We teach you these movements, your brain figures out how to do them more efficiently.

785
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,040
And then all of a sudden life just gets easier.

786
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,040
Yeah.

787
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,920
You have that ability to zoom out like Danny was saying earlier.

788
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,240
You have that moment where you can say, okay, let me look at it from the cortex.

789
00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,680
That's what we're called in the cortex.

790
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,680
Am I right or am I right?

791
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,680
Okay, great.

792
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,360
Thank you so much for being with us in this episode.

793
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,360
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794
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795
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,800
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796
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797
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,960
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798
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799
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,960
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800
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801
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802
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