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Hi, and welcome to the In The Cortex podcast.

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We are your hosts.

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I'm Paloma Garcia.

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And I am Dani Perrecone.

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And we're the founders of In The Cortex, an online community with programs that show

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people the tools that they need to change their lives, their brain reorganization, no

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medication, just movement.

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When you get your brain out of survival mode and regulate your nervous system, you start

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to live in the fun, logical part of the brain, the cortex.

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Subscribe today and learn how to live your best in the cortex life.

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And now, on to today's episode.

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Let's listen to a quick cortex moment from one of our members.

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Hi, I'd like to share with you my experience within the Cortex program.

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There was a time when I felt my life was a complete mess.

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My focus was all over the place.

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And the word procrastination might as well be in my middle name.

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My biggest obstacle, the annoying PowerPoint presentations at work, could never bring myself

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to start them until the last very moment.

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And I made every excuse I could think of not to do what I had to.

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It was a cycle of self sabotage, rush, panic, and of course, messing up.

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Then something shifted.

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I found and started the ITC program and became completely involved in the strategies and

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it wasn't like an instant fix.

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But I had to accept that I was skeptical at the beginning.

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But slowly, I started noticing changes.

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Lots of things that helped me to begin untangle the mess in my mind.

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And then, guess what?

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One morning came and I woke up.

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It was like a switch had flipped.

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I sat down, opened my laptop, and began working on the presentation that I had been avoiding.

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It wasn't rushed.

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It was intentional.

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It wasn't panicked.

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It was composed.

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I realized in that moment that I had changed.

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Since then, it's been different.

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No more last minute rushes, no more frantic all nighters.

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I've reclaimed control over my time.

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The ITC program didn't just help with the presentations.

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It helped me reclaim my life.

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I'm not scouting anymore.

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I found focus, purpose.

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So listen closely.

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I came to this conclusion which might sound like a cliche.

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You can change.

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Even if you're not that young, like me.

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The ITC program gave me the tools, the understanding, and the power to create my own narrative.

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So that was one of our members sharing about procrastination.

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And what about procrastination?

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What does that have to do with the brain?

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Today we're talking about attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, ADHD.

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And oftentimes those people who have that label of ADHD, they can relate and it really

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resonates to understand what procrastination means for them.

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So today we're going to really dive into the challenges of that ADHD label.

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We're going to talk about it today and what the symptoms are around ADHD and where they

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come from.

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And we're not saying that it doesn't exist because the challenges that someone with ADHD

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as their label is very real.

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And we understand that.

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But we want to talk about how to diminish that everyday challenge of those symptoms and

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then how to just make it easier of day to day living.

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Exactly.

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And most mainstream healthcare is focusing more on the symptoms rather than the root

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of ADHD related challenges.

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And that's for everything, right?

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Not just for ADHD, for many other mental health concerns and even physiological physical

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illnesses.

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That's kind of the mainstream approach.

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But the truth is more than 366 million adults worldwide have ADHD as of 2020.

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And we've seen an increase, a huge increase in the past 20 years, right?

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So where do we think that's coming from?

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From the NITC perspective, the way that the brain develops has been the same for hundreds

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and hundreds and hundreds of years.

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It has to be through movement, through nurture and through exposure to different experiences

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in those first years, right?

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To give the baby that freedom it has to do the movement that it's programmed to do, that

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we're naturally designed to do.

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But what has the main thing that has changed in the past, what, 50, 100 years, right?

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The way that we live.

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Our lifestyle is changing so much day to day, and that's impacting the way that we are

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able to move or not so able to move or not so, we don't give as much importance as we

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And this is why social media is great.

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This is the highlight of those two sides of social media, but now we're starting to hear

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more people talk about their challenges.

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And now that we've aired it out and we're all saying, hey, we're experiencing similar

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things like, yeah, procrastination is very real for me, or I have this strong need to

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always jump from project to project, or I can never focus on certain things.

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And now we're all talking about it.

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And that's great.

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And I love that we can bring that all out into the open because then that means that

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there's something and collectively we are in that human connection level able to relate

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to each other.

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Now this is where our ITC perspective comes in.

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And we like that people are talking about it.

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But like Paloma said, we're very bottoms up approach.

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So we're like, why?

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Why is there such a huge increase?

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And that number you just listed out 366 million Americans.

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That was in 2020.

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We all know that from 2020 to today, there was a giant thing that happened in humans

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that none of us had ever really experienced in our lifetimes.

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And we've seen those increases drastically, right?

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Paloma, we've seen huge shifts in anxiety like we talked about in the last episode.

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And we know more people are identifying with ADHD.

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So here's the tricky thing about it though is if we do start to put the label on it,

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it's great.

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We have awareness.

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Hey, I identify with all these symptoms of what is classified as ADHD.

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We know that's real.

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The tricky part though is then once you inherit that is your identity.

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Because then we see it as you're now putting yourself into a space of this is how I will

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always operate and this is now my identity.

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And this we see a lot of times people who come onto our program and they want to reorganize

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their brains and get out of their limiting beliefs.

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They find it really hard to remove that identity of my ADHD.

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We hear that so many times, my ADHD.

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So there's also no judgment or shame here.

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So that's a really big piece of you say that, yeah, I identify as ADHD.

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Like you can't tell me that the way I feel about life is not true.

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We agree with that.

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There is a different way to go about living because both of us have experienced it.

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I was a major procrastinator.

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So was Paloma.

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I always jumped from project to project.

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And now we don't.

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And we're not saying that it just magically went away.

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We did a lot of hard work to get there.

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So this is what we're going to help unpack a bit is how you can change that.

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And how neuroplasticity has proven that you can change how your brain's wired.

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We are products of it.

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We are living our best lives every day.

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It's not always totally straight and clean.

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It's a lot of messiness too.

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But we're telling you that there's possibilities and other options other than just what's out

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there right now.

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Totally.

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And the brain loves to have a name for things.

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We love to put things in categories.

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And that's why diagnoses are so helpful because it helps your brain be like, okay, all this

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stuff is really hard for me or for my child or for my spouse, whoever it is.

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And now that I have a name for it, I can understand it better.

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So what we're saying is we don't want people to get stuck in that name, in that label.

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And we don't require any sort of diagnosis or anything when you participate in our program

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for that reason, because you can also be somebody who has these challenges but never got diagnosed.

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Like Danny and I would have probably been diagnosed if our parents had taken us somewhere.

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We just didn't.

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We were really good compensators when we were little at the age where most people start

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to get diagnosed.

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You can have the challenges and not have the label.

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There's a lot of self-diagnosing going on, on, you know, TikTok and Instagram and all these

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different things.

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And it's because people just want to belong.

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But what do you do about it?

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That's the number one thing.

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Once you know this, what are you going to do about it?

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So let's talk about some of the very common, the most common symptoms of ADHD.

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We have impulsiveness, disorganization and problems prioritizing.

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This is procrastination.

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Time management skills.

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Just by the way, I was the most impulsive buyer you've ever met in your life.

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And my friends still like remember to this day, me going into a shop to buy like a bottle

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of water and coming out with like 17 different things that I picked up on the way.

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Poor time management skills.

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Problem focusing on one task.

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Trouble multitasking.

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Active activity or relentlessness.

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So these are the people that even as a, you know, the kids who are like, I'm not going

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to be able to sit in my seat all day and listen to the teacher.

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But as adults, we also find ways to compensate and make that a little bit less obvious where

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we're like somebody who's getting up all the time and, you know, I, oh, I have to go get

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this thing.

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Oh, I forgot I needed to go get another glass of water.

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You know, you're finding different ways to move all the time.

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Trouble with planning, low frustration tolerance, mood swings.

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Of course, if your brain is constantly compensating for all this stuff, like we talked about in

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another, in a previous episode about if it's constantly compensating, then your frustration

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tolerance is going to get way lower because you don't have that much bandwidth to deal

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with what's coming up in your day to day life.

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Problems following through and completing tasks.

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That was 100% me having a hot temper that also actually feeds in with the ponds.

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We'll talk about that in a little bit and trouble coping with stress.

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associated with Danny?

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And that's a beautiful way to segment into what we cover in the second pillar of, in

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the cortex.

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The second pillar, we'd mentioned last episode, we talked about the first pillar, all about

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the ponds and all those behaviors.

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And that's the second pillar of what we talk about of the primitive brain and how the mid

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brain is designed in the stage of life from about six to 12 months.

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Now remember, this is very wide range.

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There's not definite times here.

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This varies for every baby of when they're supposed to be crawling.

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When you're crawling on hands and knees, this is developing the mid brain.

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And it's the part of the brain that's able to do a lot of the things that Paloma just

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mentioned automatically, meaning to be working as they're intended to.

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This is why we say in our program, the way you crawl tells us where that part of the

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brain left off.

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And every single time we watch for the hands are placed, we watch for the feet are placed.

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It doesn't matter if you're two years old or if you're a hundred years old, we can tell

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where that brain left off.

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So that correlates to the same behaviors that are connected to someone who possibly has

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ADHD.

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Another thing that's very much connected in a lot of overlap is sensory processing.

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That goes for tactile, the way things feel when you are touched, like if you ever touch

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somebody and they shy away from you, or it could be the tags in the shirt, the lines

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on the socks, it could be getting your hairbrush.

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That's a big change I've seen in my four year old because we've really amped up our brainwork

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at home.

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And now I can brush her hair without her screaming and having to like run away from me.

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So those are all the tactile ones.

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A lot of kids, I don't know if you all see this, but cover their ears, especially when

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you're in public bathrooms and the sound of the hand dryer goes off or the toilet flushes.

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It's a big one parents bring to us all the time or the blender turns on and they automatically

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want to cover their ears.

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It's because that part of the brains is not able to filter out the volume correctly.

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That should be an automatic function that is put into our brains so we can handle life

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for what it is.

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Other things are taste and putting certain foods in our mouths, not necessarily the taste

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of it, but maybe the way it feels.

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So there's a lot of overlap here on how we're processing our sensory world around us.

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There is oftentimes motor coordination.

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So our bodies are divided from right and left sides, front and back and top and bottom.

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pattern of right hand left knee moving.

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are not communicating with each other.

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figure out how to work through this.

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how you're able to process words in front of you on how you maybe cover one eye because

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it's too much information coming in or you can't get eye contact.

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This is such a big one.

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Our society, and this is why we're like screaming on this podcast.

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not listening.

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taking in the information better than when they're forced to try to look at you because

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their eyes are not actually able to do that.

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to you.

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Pain and temperature also related to this part of the brain.

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because they're too fearful of getting hurt or the kids that are slamming other kids.

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So we talk about this in the kid version, but the adults do the exact same things.

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Have you ever done a handshake with someone and their handshake was so extremely firm

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and they almost broke your bones in your hand?

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They didn't feel that or they give you a super hard high five and you're like, I didn't feel

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that was so incredibly painful.

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like really hurt you and it's not like that deep.

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maybe someone loves the deep pressure and the other person doesn't like it.

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doing that versus, oh, that person is just so blah, right?

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We always give labels to other people.

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The temperature sensation is also another one.

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hot or even adults not wearing appropriate clothing, depending on the weather.

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Another big one is the dopamine production that comes from the brain.

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Dopamine is the main chemical that brings motivation online and gets you to move towards

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something.

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to complete things, right?

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You kind of fizzle out quickly.

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You get excited because you get hit with the dopamine and then maybe your brain's not

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regularly enough.

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of you.

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Same thing for the serotonin production, feeling that happy, good feeling.

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And so then we oftentimes fall down into like a deep state of like, I'm not good enough

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and sadness and all those things going with it.

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These are brain chemicals that are being produced from this part of the brain.

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There's a few more things here connected to the mid brain.

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We will add more of this into the show notes.

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You can go back and look at this.

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Really there's so much more proprioception, pain, suppression, muscle tone, body position,

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the way you walk, your heart rate, your blood pressure regulation, your circadian rhythm,

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making sure you're actually going to bed at the right time.

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We all talk about how that gets disrupted.

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So this is all coming from the mid brain.

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brain, organization, the motivation, longterm versus instant gratification, sustained attention,

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awareness, and then many other daily functions.

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charge of.

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And if it's not doing all of its automatic jobs, we will probably have a challenge is

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with what Danny would just mentioned at the end.

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And so, and some of it really is just our brain.

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Everybody is wired completely differently.

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And we really want to make sure to talk about this because society, and we talk about this

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I think in the last episode as well, but we expect we hold ourselves to such a high standard

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in society and society is set up in a way that the expectation is so high for who you're

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supposed to be, how you're supposed to behave, what you're supposed to do in your daily routines,

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right?

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You have a kid that's supposed to be sitting in a classroom perfectly straight, looking

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at the board, listening to everything the teacher does, writing it down, ignoring what's

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going on next to them, or ignoring the fact that they might be hungry or that the tag might

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be bugging them in their t-shirt, right?

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Or that they might be, they honestly maybe can't stop thinking about a song that they

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listen to in the car on the way to school.

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Like there's so many different things we assume that children have to be doing that automatically

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or all the time.

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Or as adults, for example, we have those, those very, very, very unrealistic morning

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routine tick tocks, right?

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That's like my five to nine before my nine to five.

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And you're like, really?

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Do people actually do that?

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And so that just plants more of the seed of you're doing something wrong.

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If you can't do these things naturally, easily, all the time, 24 seven, then something's going

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on in your brain and you better fix it, right?

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And so that just puts so much pressure on us.

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And so the other, the second part of the episode here, we want to talk about how we need to

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have grace with ourselves and we need to have patience with ourselves.

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And we need to change the standards and the expectations that we have for the way that

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we are supposed to behave.

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Because where does that supposed to be come from?

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It's just coming from all these ideals that have been thrown out into our world.

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And I do think that nowadays we're in a part of history where people are really breaking

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those things down.

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They're breaking down the expectations and the kind of this need to aspire to a certain

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thing.

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We're all just a lot more natural.

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And like you said, Danny, from what happened in 2020, the pandemic really shifted everything

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for a lot of people.

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And lots of us are looking at our lives and our priorities and being like, okay, that's,

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I'm not going to hold myself to that moment.

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Like that's unrealistic.

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And I just want to live my life and be happy and be the best version of myself.

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And that's what we really want to continue to share with people is there is so many,

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there are so many ways to do that from a neurological perspective as well.

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And I love that you just said that because we do talk about here at ITC that it's just

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the goals to live a happier and easier life.

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And we don't say that life is easy.

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We don't say that there's not messy moments.

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Paloma and I are always on the Facebook group talking about all of our major changes that

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we experienced by doing our brain work on a daily basis.

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And so that's exactly the answer for us is doing the brain work.

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And what that means is we talked about the last episode, we talked about the ponds, we

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talked about creeping.

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And then we talk about now crawling.

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Crawling is the function that's going to develop the midbrain.

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So like I mentioned earlier, the way your hands are placed, the way your feet are placed,

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the way your body is moving overall, all of that can shift into a natural rhythm if you

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give the brain the time to do it.

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So that's where we guide you.

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We give you the tools and resources on what to look for, how do you get to that?

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How do you make sense of what your brain's currently doing?

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And the best part is, is it puts you in the driver's seat to then take control of your

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life.

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And now you can really start to look at things and go, oh my gosh, I just tried to have a

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sit down restaurant, dinner conversation with somebody and I could not block out the conversation

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next to me.

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I was so distracted and overwhelmed.

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And now I know I can go home and do some crawling to help my brain get online.

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Or I was the person who, you know, I needed everything to be exactly perfect and I'm really

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hung up on my perfectionism right now.

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Where is that coming from?

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So that's where we help you say, okay, get out of the survival state of the right here

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right now, go do some brain work.

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And now let's zoom out and look at what the root of that is from the program perspective

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coming from, meaning what is the subconscious belief in there?

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So that's where it's a two part process.

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There is no perfect.

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There is no like immediate answer to any of this, but we will tell you when you start

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to learn about your brain, your behavior, you'll accept that there's no such thing as perfection.

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There is no perfect.

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There is only imperfectly perfect people in this world and you gain a whole new sense

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of compassion.

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And then you have this tool to help you with your everyday living to just make life easier.

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And I think that's something that we're all really looking for.

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And I love how Paloma and I are always owning a whoopsies.

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I just messed up, had a human moment, but here's what I can go do about it to make my

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day just feel better.

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A really quick thing that we can share with people if they're not doing the program right

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now and they're like, okay, I wish I had something to help me when I'm trying to focus.

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Let's share the lazy eight with them.

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So we'll plug this video in the show notes as well.

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The lazy eight is basically you're tracing an infinity sign.

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You can do it on a piece of paper.

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You can do it out like in front of you with your thumb.

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What you're going to do is you're going to start in the middle and start tracing that

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infinity sign up to the left, then up to the right, up to the left, up to the right.

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And you're going to make sure you're following your thumb.

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If you're doing it with your fingers, you're following that pen on the piece of paper where

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you're doing it.

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And this exercise is a brain gym exercise as well.

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And it is amazing for helping your left and right hemispheres connect and helping bring

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in that focus for when you're about to do something.

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So this is a good one for if you know you're going into a class or you're going to read

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something you really want to focus on, try this and let us know how it goes.

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And thank you so much for being here.

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We're so excited about this podcast and just being able to share this information with the

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world.

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And please subscribe, share, follow us on any platform that you're using.

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And our social media also is Instagram is in the cortex underscore us, tick tock in underscore

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And our Facebook is in the cortex us website in the cortex.com.

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It's getting a little repetitive repetitive, but hey, I'll say it anyway.

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So go ahead and sign up and hey, let us know if you have any questions.

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If you want us to talk about something specific, please reach out to us on social media and

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we will get back to you.

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So thanks for being here.

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Bye.

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Thank you.

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