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Hi, and welcome to the In The Cortex podcast.

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We are your hosts.

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I'm Poloma Garcia.

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And I am Danny Parakoni.

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And we're the founders of In The Cortex, an online community with programs that show

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people the tools that they need to change their lives, their brain reorganization, no

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medication, just movement.

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When you get your brain out of survival mode and regulate your nervous system, you start

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to live in the fun, logical part of the brain, the cortex.

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Subscribe today and learn how to live your best in the cortex life.

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And now, on to today's episode.

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Let's start out with a quick cortex moment from one of our members.

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Okay, so picture this.

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You have a young boy, my son, 13, 14 years old, just getting into adolescence, big growth

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spurt, trying to socialize, and he has massive social anxiety.

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And the social anxiety comes from not being able to interact.

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He always feels like he's being interrupted.

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He can't join in conversations easily.

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He has funny things to say when he writes, he's hilarious.

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When he's on his own, he's hilarious.

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But he always feels like he's being interrupted or that he can't participate fully and interact.

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That anxiety spills out sometimes in anger, sometimes just a little bit sad, a little bit

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down.

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Just not a happy situation for a 13, 14 year old boy, especially when it's your own son.

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Now fast forward, this kid is now grown.

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He lives in a foreign country.

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He's a podcaster.

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He's a public speaker.

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He owns his own company and has tons of friends.

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He's extremely funny, extremely sociable.

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So what happened?

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What made the difference?

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We ran into a methodology that had to do with creeping and changed his life and changed

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our lives as a family too, because nobody wants to have an unhappy or anxious family

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member.

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And that creeping and crawling allowed my son to reorganize his brain, to organize his

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thoughts, to be able to speak quickly, get rid of his anxiety, and turned him into another

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person.

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I know it might sound incredible, but people that have knew him before and people that

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know him now can attest to this.

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He is a different person, changed his life, and he became a better version of the great

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person he already was.

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Okay, Danny, today we're going to talk about something that lots of people relate to, which

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is anxiety.

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And we want to start out this episode of saying that we feel you.

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We are here from a space of empathy and compassion in talking about something that's not easy

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for anybody to navigate.

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We're talking about where it's coming from, and we're going to tell you a few things that

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you can do to diminish your anxiety, both in the short and the long term.

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So first, let's take a second to remember what anxiety feels like if you're somebody

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who's ever felt anxious, which is most of us, slash probably everybody, at some point in

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your life.

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Close your eyes and just think about where do you feel that anxiety?

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I know for me, for example, it's usually in my stomach.

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It's like in the pit of my stomach.

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I know some people feel like nauseous.

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They feel like their heartbeats are to race.

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They feel like maybe even a cold sweat.

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They'll feel it in their chest.

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And of course, that goes usually accompanied with racing thoughts, right, of whatever's

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making you anxious.

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Sometimes people don't even know why they're anxious.

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They're just feeling this feeling and there's no reason for it.

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So Danny, tell us a little bit about this.

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Why do we experience this and when is it normal?

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There is a spectrum here of what is normal.

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And a lot of times we can experience as humans whenever we're walking to a new experience

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or something we haven't had and baseline for understanding what to expect.

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We start to get that feeling of like, whoa, I'm stepping out of my comfort zone.

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Something new is happening.

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It feels a little uncomfortable because it's something I haven't experienced before.

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So in that case, that's when we have that anxiety.

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We have a little bit of the butterflies in our stomach and we kind of have that prep

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for something new is coming.

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I need to be ready for whatever's coming my way.

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I'm in an alert state.

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Then it goes a little bit further.

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If you're someone who does really feel anxiety deeply and it's your everyday experience,

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that's when it starts to stop you dead in your tracks.

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That's why it's kind of got that spectrum of when is anxiety something that we all experience

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and then when is it too much and I can't just get on with my everyday life.

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That's the challenge is when it starts to interfere with your everyday life and you

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can't push yourself into these new experiences or even do just your day to day activities

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because you're constantly feeling anxious or you just always have that undercurrent of

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like anxiety, anxiety, anxiety, anxiety, anxiety, no matter what you're doing during the day.

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And so let's just talk really quickly about a few statistics.

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Anxiety disorders are the most common mental illness in the US affecting 40 million adults

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in the United States.

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And there was an increase in people reporting high levels of anxiety during of course the

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pandemic.

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So it went from 19.8 in 2018 to 19 to 24.2 in 2020, 2021.

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And I think a lot of us can relate to that, right?

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Yeah, the pandemic really rocked everybody at some point on this planet.

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So what do you think about when you hear the term survival mode?

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And is it somebody who's thinking of like a caveman running from a saber to tiger, usually

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my favorite example?

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Is it the show survivor?

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Is it a child that falls into a pool that can't swim?

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Is it a car coming at you while you're walking across the street?

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Or even a pandemic that definitely was a thing that put a lot of people into survival mode

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or you're someone who's like, huh, I've never actually thought of survival mode.

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I have no idea what you're actually talking about.

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So let's break down what is survival mode.

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Survival mode is when your brain and your body are reacting to a stressful life or death

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situation.

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There's no long term or medium term plan in that moment.

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It's all about what is happening right here and right now.

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So for the examples of a child falling into the pool that can't swim, that's a right here

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right now moment.

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You're not going to sit there and contemplate and be like, hmm, I wonder if they're going

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to get themselves out.

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You're like, no, jump into action, save the child out of the pool or a car coming at you

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down the street.

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You're like, oh my gosh, there's a car driving down the street at me.

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Do I sit there and think out my different things?

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No, you immediately jump out of the way and survive.

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And that is what your survival brain is designed to do.

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And if we go back to the caveman example, that was obviously very relevant in caveman

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times.

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We are not being chased by tigers anymore.

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I mean, obviously unless a tiger gets out at the zoo and or you're living out in the

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middle of nowhere and there's tigers everywhere.

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Some people are, some people do for sure.

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But and I think people who are listening just don't experience that on the daily.

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So the examples of, you know, more common examples of a car coming off the road and

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threatening you, that's when you want that survival brain to turn on and we want there

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just to be that reaction.

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However, there is an instance where or many of them where stressors are coming at us and

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your brain is constantly in that state of is this real survival or not?

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And if you already have a dysregulated nervous system, or if you're prone to being in survival

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mode more times than not, you're going to experience everything coming in as a real threat.

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So we always like to break down what's a perceived threat and versus a real threat.

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So the real threats are the ones I mentioned, child falling into the pool, car coming at

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you, the pandemic for a lot of us, right?

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But then the perceived threat could be something as something we've all experienced, like someone

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left you on red on a text message, right?

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They didn't respond to you right away, especially in today's instant gratifying world.

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Missing a deadline at work or forgetting something when you needed to bring something with you

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and you forgot it.

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So basically anything that's not going how you want it to go, but it's not considered

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a life or death situation.

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Those are perceived threats.

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That is your brain still interpreting the information as stressful and still turning

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on all the survival centers, all of the survival hormones like adrenaline and cortisol that

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get your brain and body pumped up and primed and ready to take on whatever is coming their

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way.

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So most of the time though, after you experienced something like that and it was a perceived

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threat, say you were left on red, they didn't respond to you right away and you went down

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that whole entire spiral of, oh my gosh, what did I say?

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What did I do?

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I started texting them like crazy, like when you're responding to me and then they're like,

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oh, I just didn't have my phone.

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It was charging and you're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe all those things I just said

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and did.

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You're like, I can't believe I did that.

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look at all the options because you were in survival mode.

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And that just shows that that's not living in the cortex.

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It's just a moment of, hey, I was totally responding to right here right now, full on

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reaction mode.

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And yeah, and nothing ever really good comes out of those moments.

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Well, after most of us have a disorganized brain, a dysregulated nervous system, brain

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that's stuck in survival mode from the time we're little because that's when we missed

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out on that movement that preps the brain to understand the survival brain and actually

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operate from the cortex.

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And so after spending years and years and years responding to this, to your life in this

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way, you're creating these really, really strong ingrained neural pathways in your brain.

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And this becomes your go-to response.

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And we've all seen it in somebody or some of us have experienced it where the second

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something starts to happen that's maybe not going your way or you start to think maybe

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something bad's going to happen or something's going to be out of alignment with what you

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Boom, you go back into that fight or flight reaction.

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So it's fight, you might get really angry, start screaming, throwing things, flight,

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you might just avoid, avoid, avoid, avoid, avoid, get away or freeze.

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Sometimes people are just like, okay, genuinely don't know what to do.

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And you just stop dead in your tracks like you said earlier.

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And so we all have those reactions that we sometimes we want to get out of them, but

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we just can't.

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And so there's a lot going on there, of course, because neuroplasticity works both ways.

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It works for the amazing changes you can experience when you're doing something new, when you're

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learning new things, when you're reorganizing your brain, but it also works in the other

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way where it really does solidify these go-to reactions that sometimes are not logical and

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they're definitely not serving us.

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There are a lot of reasons for this.

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It happens because of our genetics, right?

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Just an individual, a group of genes that are involved with who we are as humans.

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There's epigenetics as well, which is how the environment, the behaviors can cause changes

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that affect the way that our genes are working in our day-to-day life.

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A lot of time that comes from our parents, what they've lived, what they've gone through,

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and that gets transmitted when we're born.

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We also have our brain chemistry.

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Everybody has a difference of neurotransmitters and chemicals going on in their brain.

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If you, for example, naturally have a low-level serotonin, then your brain is going to be

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more prone to anxiety in your day-to-day life, right?

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We all have the norepinephrine that totally spikes when we go into that fight-or-flight

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We're like, these chemicals can become addictive.

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Without knowing, we don't want to go into that fight-or-flight mode, but our brain can

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become addicted to just reacting that way because the truth is, adrenaline is very, very powerful.

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Sometimes our brain doesn't know how to get it.

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If we're not somebody who understands, oh, maybe I'm just going to go for a run or I'm

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going to meditate, I'm going to do something else to balance my brain out, do some brain

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work, do some ITC work, then a lot of us will go back into that really, really strong fight-or-flight

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mode connection because the truth is, in the moment, it doesn't feel great, but afterward

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we have that adrenaline release.

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Your brain gets a lot of what it was seeking out.

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Our personality is also going to affect the way that we react to things.

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Of course, life events, different traumas that we've had, different things that have happened

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in our lives, and this is where the movement comes in.

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If we are somebody who didn't move enough in that first year of life, and this is something

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we talked about in our last episode, if we didn't get enough of that movement in the

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first year of life, our primitive brain did not finish developing and understand what

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Danny is saying, how to distinguish communically with the logical brain, which is the cortex,

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to distinguish what is a real threat and what is a perceived threat, which is why we end

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up getting into this cycle, this loop of anxiety, anxiety, anxiety, anxiety reactions.

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It's really important to note, too, that if you do go through something that's traumatic,

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that survival brain is wired and designed to come back online and to take over to help

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you through the task.

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The key part is then to help it reintegrate and lie dormant again, waiting for the next

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survival situation to happen.

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That's an important part.

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Even if you did do all the movements as a child and you did get them, your brain totally

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wired where it needed to be, then you still could have moments of it coming online.

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That's where a lot of PTSD comes from.

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When we have a lot of our vets that come back, they have a lot of moments of reverting back,

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and it's because their brain went back into survival and they didn't bring it back into

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What do we now know about the subconscious stuff?

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What about that?

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There's so much other stuff that's going on that we talk about.

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That's really, if you think about it, it's really just your script on how you handle

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life.

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When Loma mentioned, what did your caretakers do?

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How did they handle situations?

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That was when you were in a critical time of just downloading it.

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You think about your upbringing.

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You think about how that is now transferred into your life.

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We mentioned this in a previous episode of, oh my gosh, it just sounded like my mom.

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Where did that come from?

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That's that subconscious.

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This is where our attachments, Jeff, comes from our programming or learn response.

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That's something to also take into account when we're talking about anxiety and how you

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are perceiving events and stressors in your life.

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What the thing is, now we get into what do we do about it?

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Most models out there are top down.

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We're thinking, we've all heard the typical count to 10, take a deep breath, count to

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10, and think positive thoughts.

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That bleeds into that toxic positivity where you're like, I can't.

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I'm in survival mode.

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I cannot think positively.

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That is the literal thing that my brain is struggling with right now.

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It's only looking at the right here and the right now.

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That is where we come in and we're doing bonds up.

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We need to get the brain, the nervous system regulated so that it's able to get out of that

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survival mode much, much, much quicker.

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Like Danny said, zoom out and look at the reality of what's going on and decide, how

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do I respond to this rather than letting our primitive brain react?

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This is how we're designed to operate.

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This is why we have our parasympathetic nervous system, which is the rest and digest.

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We have the sympathetic nervous system, which is our fight or flight reaction, survival

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brain, but then we're always supposed to go back into the parasympathetic nervous system

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afterward to rest and digest and let our bodies and our brains process what just happened.

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That's where we were talking about that adrenaline moment where you're like, you feel it after

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a release, you feel it after you've done something big.

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That's something that we're all supposed to go back into.

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Unfortunately, the way that we're all wired nowadays, or a lot of us are wired nowadays,

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we're spending most of our time in the sympathetic nervous system in that reaction state.

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Yes.

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While this episode is focusing mostly and just focusing on the topic of anxiety, it's

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very much aligned with the very first pillar that we talk about in the cortex, which is

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the pons.

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The pons is the part of the brain that is really the reptilian, primitive part of the

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brain.

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It's developing from zero to five months of life, and it has many jobs that are very

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critical and helping.

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This is where it's interesting.

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Anxiety is very much rooted in being able to manage your fight, flight, or freeze, or

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fawn response.

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That is exactly what the pons job is to do as well.

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Now, we're not trying to say that we're curing anything and that, hey, by doing this, all

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of a sudden you have no more challenges in life.

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We're just showing that there's a very giant overlap between anxiety and the pons and a

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lot of other functions of the pons, regulating your automatic functions like breathing and

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digestion.

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What happens when you're in an anxious state?

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You're not breathing.

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I've had so many people tell us, I've just realized I wasn't breathing.

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I never took a deep breath.

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If you think about it, it's up in the upper chest and you're, when you're in that really

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hyper ventilating state where you're just breathing through your chest instead of breathing

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deep down in your belly, digestion is off.

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So many of us complain of stomach aches when we're really anxious.

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Again, that's the same function of the pons as being able to regulate that automatic eye

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of movements.

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If you think about from the survival standpoint, your eyes are tracking and looking for negative

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perceived or anything that could have harm to you.

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Being able to move your eyes horizontally automatically should be an automatic function, right?

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But if you don't have that in place, and that's where your cortex is constantly taking over

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and having to do more work, and that's where you then have to learn how to compensate.

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So this is where anxiety and the pons development overlaps because if your pons is not wired

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to do the basic functions, your cortex has to take over.

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And that means it's exhausted by the end of the day because if your eyes aren't tracking

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horizontal to the automatically, then your cortex has to figure out different ways to

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get that job done.

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So maybe you have to turn your whole head and the list goes on and on.

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So there's a lot of overlap here regulating your sleep, your emotional regulation, your

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vestibular input, your hearing, your motor control, your pain and temperature sensation,

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your proprioceptive system, all of those functions are coming from the pons.

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And those are all things that get altered if you're also someone who is experiencing anxiety

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on a daily basis.

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So pull them up.

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How do you develop the pons?

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The pons develops when babies are creeping and you've heard us talk about this before,

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hopefully, but we don't mean creeping like stalking your ex's MySpace page.

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We mean creeping like when babies are on the floor, they're on their belly and they're

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moving from point A to point B. It kind of looks like an army crawl.

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And most babies will do this movement from zero to about five months of life.

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We don't want to get too technical with the timelines because everybody's brain is completely

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different and some people need more movement than others.

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And that's what's developing the pons.

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And so that's how we can see where somebody's brain left off in development.

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We had in the cortex, we can see you move on the floor and say, oh, you're at 20% development,

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50%, 90%, right?

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But if you're right now curious, by the way, if you want to know kind of like what you're

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developing is, you can always get an assessment with us or you can take our brain organization

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quiz, which is linked in the show notes.

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And that goes more off of like the behaviors that are associated with different parts of

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the brain that can be underdeveloped.

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But it's always a fun thing to see and see if it resonates with you, by the way.

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And so what about if people can't get onto the floor right now and start doing our program?

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Let's give them a little tip, Danny.

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Yeah.

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So taking the quiz is a really good step because you're going to have, you're going to associate

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all the behaviors there and you'll be able to see it.

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But then there's always the actual movement that comes on and people go, oh my gosh, this

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totally makes sense.

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And just so you can experience a little taste of what we do here at ITC, we really want

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you to feel in your body how to calm yourself immediately.

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Now this is hard to do if you're in survival mode because you're not, you don't actually

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have access to this.

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So it's a good thing to try now while you're in your cortex.

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And the more you times you try it, like Paloma mentioned earlier, the more that you will

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then be wired to go to this movement when the time comes.

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So it's just a reminder.

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So it's called a brain hookup.

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It is from Brain Gym.

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We always like to make sure we give credit where credit is due.

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And what you're going to do is if you're sitting or you're standing, doesn't matter what position

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you're in or lying down, you're going to cross your ankles.

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So notice if you put right on top of left or left on top of right for your ankles, you

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can also sit crisscross.

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You can also just take your whole leg and cross it over.

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And then you're going to take your hands out in front of you and your palms are facing

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each other as your palms or your thumbs are straight up in the, to the ceiling.

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You're going to turn your thumbs down.

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Now your thumbs are pointing down to the ground.

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And now remember whatever ankle went on top is the same hand that goes on top.

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So you're going to cross your arm over the other hand and you're going to interlace

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your fingers.

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And then once you're in this position, it's going to feel natural just to pull your fist

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under and into your chest.

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And then from here, you're going to take your tongue and put it up to the roof of your mouth.

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If you're having a hard time walking through that, you can always check out the video that's

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in our show notes.

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And it's a lot easier to see that visually.

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So holding the tongue to the roof of your mouth is actually where your tongue should

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always naturally rest, but it's also really good for helping calm down that limbic system,

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which is in charge of your emotions.

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Holding yourself into this position is calming all your energy.

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And if you think about it, if you've ever been in an argument, which I'm sure not a

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lot of you have been, just kidding, wink, wink, you're going to naturally cross your

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arms over your chest or in a lot of times our culture and society think, oh, that person's

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body language is so turned off the way they have their bodies just closed off like that.

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We see it so different here at ITC.

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We see it as you are now controlling and calming your system because you're bringing all that

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energy and bringing it in to calm itself down.

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And also when your tongue is on the roof of your mouth, it's also activating the vagus

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nerve, which is a big, big piece in helping you calm all that emotional sensation that

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you've got going on.

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So try that brain hookup.

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Try calming yourself.

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Try to hold yourself in this position while maybe if you have a child in the home who's

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going into their survival state, you hold this position and say nothing because boredom

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is the best way out of survival mode and into the cortex and just help calm your energy

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so that way you can calm the energy of people around you.

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This is our go to move whenever we have like a presentation to do or we need to help somebody

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else stay calm.

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We just control our energy and calm ourselves down.

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And then it has this amazing effect of carrying over to everybody else in the room.

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Absolutely.

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And that's a once you try it, you'll see the difference that you feel and that you notice

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in everybody else in the room, but we will say this is not addressing the root.

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This is just kind of like some a tool for you to use when you're feeling like you're about

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to go into that mode, into that anxious feeling, into that stressed out feeling.

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But this will help you in the moment.

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It's not going to help you in the long term.

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In the long term, what you want to do is get your brain organized and get that solid neurological

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foundation you need, hopefully with us.

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If not, you can do it on your own, but by doing the creeping, the crawling and integrating

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those primitive reflexes that are still getting in the way and really keeping you in that

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primitive brain.

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So that was our episode for today.

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We'll see you next time.

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Thank you so much for joining us.

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