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Welcome to the Clinician Researcher podcast, where academic clinicians learn the skills

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to build their own research program, whether or not they have a mentor.

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As clinicians, we spend a decade or more as trainees learning to take care of patients.

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When we finally start our careers, we want to build research programs, but then we find

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that our years of clinical training did not adequately prepare us to lead our research

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program.

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Through no fault of our own, we struggle to find mentors, and when we can't, we quit.

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However, clinicians hold the keys to the greatest research breakthroughs.

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For this reason, the Clinician Researcher podcast exists to give academic clinicians

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the tools to build their own research program, whether or not they have a mentor.

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Now introducing your host, Toyosi Onwuemene.

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Welcome to the Clinician Researcher podcast.

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I'm your host Toyosi Onwuemene, and it is an absolute pleasure to be talking with you today.

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Thank you so much for tuning in.

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I'm talking today about why, five reasons why, you should do what you love.

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Five reasons why you should do what you love.

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And one of the reasons I think it's important to talk about this is because sometimes people

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tell you to do what you love, and then other people say don't do that, don't do what you

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love, that's ridiculous.

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And so I do have a take that I think covers both sides, and I want to share that with

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you today.

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The reason I think to share this episode with you today is because I am up late, and I looked

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at the time and I was like, what?

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It's been an hour and 20 minutes already?

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I was just going to do this thing really quickly, and then I was going to quickly get ready

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and go to bed.

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Instead I look and before I know it, it's been an hour and 20 minutes, and wow, a lot

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of time has gone by and I didn't even know it.

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And that's the place where I recognized that I was in flow.

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Oh my goodness.

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And what was I doing?

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I was creating.

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I love to create things.

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Yes, I am creating this podcast now, but this particular space of creation is really fun.

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Anyway, it's one of my hobbies, and maybe in a future episode I'll share a little bit

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more about it, but I have to say, what's important is that it absolutely is unrelated to any

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of the work that I do in terms of my research or my clinical work.

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So it really is, I think what you would call an avocation that is so, so fun.

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Anyway, so why should we do what we love?

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I think it's important to recognize that there is this controversy.

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I think it's a controversy.

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You may not agree, but sometimes you listen to a speech such as the one that Steve Jobs

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gave for commencement address, and he talks about the importance of following your passion

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and doing what you love.

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And there are other speakers and none comes to mind right now, but they'll say, yeah,

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the whole idea of doing what you love is ridiculous.

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Do whatever's in front of you and do it well.

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And I think both speakers are correct, right?

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And I want to speak to that in the context of our research careers.

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So when I first started in research, I actually didn't have much research experience.

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So to be honest, I had no idea what I was going to love in research.

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I actually had no idea.

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And people would ask me, what do you want to do?

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And I would just say, I just want to do research.

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Like, well, what research do you want to do?

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And I was like, I just want to do research.

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And I think I hadn't thought enough about what I actually enjoyed in medicine.

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I enjoyed a lot of things.

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That wasn't one thing I wanted to commit myself to.

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So I wasn't ready to make a commitment of like, oh, this is the thing I love and want

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to do forever.

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And I think that's where the whole advice of, well, don't do what you love, just do

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what's in front of you comes in.

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And it's real because sometimes you don't know what you love yet because you haven't

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been exposed to it.

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You know, it's kind of like if you've ever been in love, it's like, well, you know, you

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didn't know you would be in love until you met a person who totally just threw you head

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over heels.

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And maybe that's not a great analogy because you're like, I don't even believe in that.

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Just stay with me here.

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What I'm saying is that there are things that you don't even know you care about until you're

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exposed to them.

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And that's the whole challenge of trying to follow your passion because sometimes you

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actually don't know what it is.

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And what you need to do is be in progress doing something that you don't yet know is

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your passion, doing it well.

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In the midst of that, you tend to fall into your passion after you've had a chance to

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figure out exactly what you want to do.

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And I think one of the things that happens, and at least I can speak from my experience,

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is that sometimes you're not even really focused on finding what you love until you're just

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trying to just figure out like, how do I actually do this?

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Teach me the nuts and the bolts and the mechanics.

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When you can figure out the nuts and the bolts, the pieces of it, okay, I write regularly.

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Okay, I create manuscripts for submission.

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Okay, I write grants.

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Once you have all that down, then all of a sudden you have space where some things are

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now kind of on autopilot.

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You know how to do this.

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You're not really investing that much energy to try to figure out the nuts and the bolts

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of this academic career or this research career.

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And then you can be like, okay, I got that down.

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Now what do I love?

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And I think that's a journey for many of us.

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Now there are some of us who are like, I have no idea what the nuts and bolts are of research.

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I just know that this is the population I want to serve.

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End of story.

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And so people come to research from different angles.

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But at the end of the day, it is important to do what you love.

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And if you don't know it upfront, do what you love anyway.

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And it may not be in your research, and that's where I started from, is that, hey, I'm doing

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work that I love that has absolutely nothing to do with my research.

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And it's so awesome because it absolutely enriches and nourishes me.

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And so five reasons why you should do what you love.

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And I may come up with seven because as I'm thinking about the items I've already kind

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of pre-prepared, I'm thinking, huh, there might be other things to add.

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But these are five and you can add more.

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Send me a DM and share what you're thinking about this topic.

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So the first thing is just pure pleasure.

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It brings me joy.

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Right?

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Oh my gosh, I do this?

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I'm lost in flow for an hour and 20 minutes.

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I have no idea how much time is passing.

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That is beautiful.

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The state of being in flow where you just are into what you're doing and you have no

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cares, you're not stressed, you're not worried, you're just doing the thing for the sake of

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doing the thing.

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It is such a pleasurable thing.

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It is so awesome.

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It brings you joy.

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You totally do it.

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And wouldn't it be great if this was a thing that was actually my job?

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And I will tell you, just to take a step back, I'm talking about something that's outside

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of my research, but to be honest, I love writing.

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I can flow in writing for a while.

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And so I do find this kind of joy even in my research.

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And when I couple my writing and research with the patient population, I really want

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to serve.

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Okay, now we're talking ecstasy.

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Okay, so you're like, okay, kind of psycho, you're crazy, but bear with me.

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What I'm really saying is that it is worth investing in the things that bring you joy

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for the sake of the pure joy of investing in it.

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And in our lives, we can't find everything that brings us joy.

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Everything that we do will not bring us joy at first.

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Some of the things that we do right now will bring us joy over time.

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And some of the things that we do right now that don't bring us joy, we will eventually

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learn to lay them down and pick up the things that bring us joy.

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And the more we pay attention to the things that bring us joy, the more we can expand

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those things so that this is why many people who are later in their career have more fun

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than people who are earlier in their career, because over time, they've shed the baggage

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of stuff they hate, and they've kept only the things they love.

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You're going to do that too.

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Over the course of your career, you're going to say, I don't want to do this piece.

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Let's let it go.

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Because you'll find that the thing you don't love somebody else loves that.

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And you'll feel not guilty about letting it go, because somebody else will gladly pick

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it up after you.

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But you don't have to wait until you're senior in your career.

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You can start right now.

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How do you shape your career to do the things that bring you joy for the sake of the joy

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itself rather than any other thing?

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Now, the benefit of loving writing is that writing is part of the job that I do as an

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academic researcher.

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Wow, that works great for me.

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And it may not be your story yet, but it may be that you need to actually learn the nuts

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and bolts and the mechanics of good writing.

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And I'm not talking just about the writing you learned in high school, which for all

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of us, I think was wrong, at least when it comes to scientific writing and grant writing.

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And so learning the nuts and bolts of that may actually help you come to love it.

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So for whatever reason, you're like, oh, I hate that.

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I hate that.

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I hate that.

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Ask yourself, well, is it because you're not proficient in it yet?

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Do you hate it because you actually don't like it?

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Or do you hate it because you feel not proficient in it as you're doing it?

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So okay, figure out what you need to learn so you can figure out if you actually don't,

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if you actually like what you're doing or if you don't like it.

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And sometimes it's just making sure that you actually know the nuts and bolts so that you

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can actually evaluate if you like this activity or not.

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So you want to do what you love because it brings you joy for the sake of the joy itself.

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The second thing is that, wow, it enriches your life.

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Okay, so if you, if your nine to five job or how many hours you're spending on your

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job is something that actually brings you like pure joy, like then it feels like you're

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not even working.

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Now for many of us, right, the whole nine to five is not the pure joy.

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That's like for me, it's nine to 1 PM and then the meetings start and the meetings are

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I only have meetings on my calendar that I actually want to have, but still they don't

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bring me the same kind of joy as I have when I'm creating writing.

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Oh my gosh, I really love writing.

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You know, so my nine to five is not pure joy, but a good chunk of it is.

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It enriches my life.

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So it's, you know, it's like I come away from my work day.

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Sometimes I tear myself away from my work day because I'm like, hey, you got to stop,

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you got to stop because you have other things to do.

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But it's enriching.

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It's really nourishing to be able to do things in your career that enhance you, that empower

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It makes you more pleasant, right?

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When you go home to your family, your friends, they're like, oh, okay, we'd like you because

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you come back energized.

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You don't come back worn out and crabby and mean.

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Oh, that's, that's another thing.

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I just want to stop and talk about, hey, if your career right now, whatever it looks like,

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whatever your, your, your, you know, the components of your career come together and leave you

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crabby and bitter at the end of the day, I want you to know that it doesn't have to be

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that way.

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Now, you may say, oh yeah, easy for you to say, but I will tell you that that was me

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at the very beginning of my career.

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I told you I wanted to do research and I wasn't supported to do research.

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I wasn't qualified in air quotes to do research and I hated, hated everything I was doing

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because I was like, this is not what I want to do.

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I hate what I'm doing.

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And what I, what I'm saying is that it doesn't have to be that way.

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It takes time sometimes to shift it, but the key is to be very clear about where you're

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going so that you can begin the task of moving things in the direction you actually want

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them to go.

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So it enriches your life when you do the things you love, whether that's in your workspace

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or outside of it.

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And so, hey, you just go for it and if you don't feel like you have things that you love

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in your life that enrich you, then the power is in your hands.

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Go find it and do the things that actually energize you and help you feel enriched.

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All right, number three, it gives your brain time to think clearly, right?

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It gives you space.

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It gives your brain time to think creatively.

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Wow, the work we do is hard and sometimes you're really like really expending energy

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trying to understand what's the next step.

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How do we turn this manuscript around?

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How do we write this grant?

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How do we address these criticisms?

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You've got a lot to do in work.

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Oh, well, I didn't even get to patient care.

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What am I going to do with this patient who has this challenging situation?

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What am I going to do?

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Note she can't get medications, but she desperately needs, you know, there's so many things that

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take up our time and attention.

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Being able to do things that actually you love and you can get lost in the flow of,

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it helps your brain.

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Like, while you're enjoying yourself doing something different from the things in work

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that are somewhat stressful, your brain is actually continuing to process these challenges

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that are before you and your brain is able to bring you solutions, right?

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Able to bring you solutions in a way that you don't necessarily have them when you're

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crabby and you're mean and you're angry and you don't have space to think or to rest.

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And so it helps you think creatively and you take time away from your work.

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And it's taking time away from your work, not to do work that makes you crabby, but

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taking time away from your work to do what you love.

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And even if the work you're doing is work that you love, everything you do is work that

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you love.

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It's nice to step away from the thing you love here to the thing you love there to give

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your brain a break, right, from what you were doing before.

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Because in the background, these neurons are still firing, these thoughts are still being

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processed in the subconscious, even if they're not conscious to you.

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So it helps us and gives us time to think creatively.

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Number four, and I've kind of alluded to this, is it doing what you love?

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It wakes up for some of the things you don't love.

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Like I talked about, sometimes we're starting out and we're like, well, I have no clue what

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I would love in my work.

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So okay, does that mean I don't get to follow my passion?

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And again, like the example I gave, you can follow your passion, follow your passion outside

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of work so that you can go from passion to passion to passion, right?

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You're like, oh, I'm going to work.

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I have all these things I need to get done through the end of the day.

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And then I get to my passion, right?

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And so it allows you to, to be honest, push through the day and the things you don't love

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so you can get to the things you actually love.

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And so it can be the thing that gets you through, especially if you are in a thing you don't

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love, right?

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And so cultivate your passion, even if it's outside of work and especially if it's outside

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of work, because even if work sometimes feels unbearable, and please don't stay in an unbearable

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work situation, you have an option, you have options, you can figure it out.

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If you need a coach to help you work through that, you know, I am right here for you.

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But definitely recognize that you don't have to be in an unbearable situation.

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But if for whatever reason you are cultivating a passion, cultivating what you love outside

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of work can help you move from that, you know, from one space of dryness, of bitterness and

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anger into another.

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But again, don't stay in that space.

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Okay, there is help.

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Don't stay.

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Okay.

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Number five is that it makes you a better scientist.

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Every time you step away from the desk, every time you step away from the bench, every time

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you step away from the research paper, from the manuscript, from your meetings, your research

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meetings, you're a better person.

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Because as you step away, your brain is still processing, your brain is creative.

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It is, you know, thinking of new solutions to these challenging problems that be like

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you.

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And that's because you are giving yourself rest, time in between.

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And so what you want to do if you do not already have a passion that you love and you want

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your science to continue to grow, you want your research program to continue to flourish,

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I'm inviting you to think about how can you find what you love either in the work you

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do in the patient population you serve or totally outside of work.

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And it's okay.

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Just make sure you have at least one thing you love in your sphere.

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Yes, in your world.

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All right.

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I'm going to recap five reasons why you should do what you love and when it brings you joy,

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the pure pleasure of doing it.

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Number two, it enriches your life because your life is so, so awesome when it has different

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facets to it.

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Number three, it gives your brain time to think creatively.

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Therefore, it can help us make up for the work that we don't love.

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And number five, it makes you a better scientist.

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All right.

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It's been a pleasure talking with you today.

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I look forward to talking with you again next time on the Clinician Researcher Podcast.

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Have a great day.

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