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Welcome to the Clinician Researcher podcast, where academic clinicians learn the skills

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to build their own research program, whether or not they have a mentor.

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As clinicians, we spend a decade or more as trainees learning to take care of patients.

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When we finally start our careers, we want to build research programs, but then we find

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that our years of clinical training did not adequately prepare us to lead our research

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program.

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Through no fault of our own, we struggle to find mentors, and when we can't, we quit.

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However, clinicians hold the keys to the greatest research breakthroughs.

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For this reason, the Clinician Researcher podcast exists to give academic clinicians

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the tools to build their own research program, whether or not they have a mentor.

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Now introducing your host, Toyosi Onwuemene.

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Welcome to the Clinician Researcher podcast.

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I'm your host, Toyosi Onwuemene, and it is a pleasure to be talking with you today.

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Today I'm talking about the importance of taking ownership of your own career, why you

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should take ownership of your career.

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And one of the reasons that I want to share this with you today is because of my prior

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experience with myself.

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I'm telling on myself today.

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So when I first started, I think I had the sense that someone was going to come and give

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me the career I wanted, and that someone was going to be a mentor.

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And you know, people talk about mentors in a way that many times I feel like, oh my gosh,

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I wish I had such a mentor.

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And I think many of us probably feel that way.

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It's like, oh.

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But then actually, I take that back because many people do have those amazing mentors

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who like if you literally just give them your career in a platter, they'll just take it

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and make it something amazing and awesome.

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But I think by and large, the experience may not be exactly that.

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And even if you do find a mentor who really is amazing and pours into you and does so

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much for you, at the end of the day, the reality is that it's not the mentor's career.

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It's your career.

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And so I started to tell on myself as an I was that person who really felt like it was

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somebody else's responsibility to move my career forward.

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And so whenever I had a disappointing experience in a mentoring relationship, I blamed the

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mentor.

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I was like, well, if this mentor could do would have done better for me, then my life

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would be so much better.

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And to be honest, at the end of the day, nobody owes me anything.

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And so I was childish in those relationships.

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And I think the reality of life is that if you will not make your way forward, nobody

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else is responsible for helping you move it forward.

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And it's important to recognize that.

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And it's important to acknowledge that.

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So anyway, so I want to just share with you some thoughts about the reason why it's important

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for you to take ownership of your own career and whether or not you have a great mentor

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or not a great mentor doesn't matter.

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Because ultimately, since you are the one in charge, you can make it work whether or

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not you have the mentor you're looking for.

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And I think it's important to recognize that mentors can provide guidance and support and

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some do some so amazing and awesome and they really take your career and help you run with

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it.

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It's really important that you are actively involved in shaping your own career because

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it's yours.

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And no one's ever going to be invested in your career like you are.

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And even when your mentor is wonderful and everybody doesn't have a mentor like that,

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being the one to take ownership of your career is responsible because it's important because

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it is your career.

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It is your career.

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So I want to share first that your career is your personal responsibility.

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It really is.

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And I think the lines get blurred after medical school.

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So when we are pursuing the whole path to medical school, that is so easy to stay focused.

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You're like, this is my dream.

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This is my dream.

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This is what I want to do.

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Great.

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You're not asking your mentors in college to do it for you or to tell you how to go

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or to do.

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I mean, you might go to them for advice, but you're the one writing all the essays.

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You're the one going on the interviews.

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You're the one spending money out of pocket.

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Maybe now you're not having to do that.

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But you really have been responsible.

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And then all of a sudden you get into this place called residency where it's just like,

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well, here's how you get from the beginning to the end.

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And then you get to fellowship.

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It's like, oh, here's how you get to the beginning to the end.

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And then you start to feel like, well, maybe a program is in charge of your career.

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And sometimes we also get that when we're like, oh, this medical school is going to

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make me.

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Oh my goodness, this is a top tier medical school.

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Therefore, my career is going to be amazing.

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And we forget that people fail out of top tier programs.

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And the people who don't fail out, the people who really put in the work and the energy

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and the effort.

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And yes, I acknowledge the space of good fortune and not having a major illness or a major

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life event.

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But for the most part, if you succeed at the end of your training, it's not because the

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institution made you succeed, it's because you succeeded.

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And so it becomes more obvious that it's up to us to succeed when we enter into faculty

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careers where you find out that people are not thinking about you as much as you are

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thinking about yourself.

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And it makes sense.

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It's not their careers, it's yours.

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And so it's important to take personal responsibility for your career.

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Mentors are great.

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They offer advice, they offer assistance, they help you, they show you things you've

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never done before.

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They can't actually make decisions for you, not in a way that's effective.

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Because if this person is a research mentor, your life is so much bigger than just the

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research you do.

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What about your family concerns?

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What about relationship concerns?

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What about your challenges with children?

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Or maybe you're trying to have children and you're having to go through all the stuff

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to make it happen.

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Your research mentor is not the person who can take all of your career and take all of

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your life and decide the direction of your career.

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So it really is your personal responsibility and it's important for you to step up to it

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because no one is going to take personal responsibility for your career like you can.

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No one's going to do that.

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And if they do, are they going to make the best decisions for you given everything that's

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going on in your life, not given the narrow lens and the narrow window of this research

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career that you're undertaking?

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Because your research career is important, but your life exists within the context, within

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a greater context.

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And so that's important for you to take that personal responsibility.

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The other thing is the importance of you directing your journey, the importance of you directing

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your journey.

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And it does go back to what we talked about earlier.

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It's that you are one person and you are so big.

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You're so huge in the sense that the scope of you is huge.

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So there's the spiritual existential part of you that's not part of your research program,

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but it's an integral part.

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It just permeates all that you do.

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And it's not necessarily something you take to a research mentor to help navigate for

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you.

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And that's one piece of it.

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And how about having fun?

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Where you go on vacation, who you hang out with.

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I don't know about you, but that's not something I would bring to a mentor to help you make

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decisions.

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But sometimes the stuff that's going on in the research lab or in the research program

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may affect your ability to travel.

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It's like, oh, this is great conference.

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You should go there.

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It's coming up in three weeks.

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And in three weeks, you have the vacation of a lifetime to Aruba, but you don't want

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to disappoint the mentor.

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What do you do?

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For some of you, the answers to that question is super easy.

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It's like, of course I go to Aruba.

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What are you kidding me?

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But some of you don't actually, you're not sure.

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You're like, well, well, maybe.

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And no judgment here.

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But it's just saying that because you're the one who has the scope of the whole thing,

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you know, your relationship challenges or your parenting challenges or your caring for

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aging parents challenges.

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You know all of that.

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And so there is no one better able to bring it all together to make sure that your work

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is meaningful and fulfilling and really serves the other areas of your life.

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And I don't know about you, there are not very many people you can trust or should trust

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with every aspect of your life because no one person is that powerful.

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No one person has that capacity to be able to take all of you and make decisions for

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you.

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So it's important that you are directing your own journey and navigating your own way forward.

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The other reason it's important for you to take ownership of your career is the need

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for being adaptable and resilient.

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Look, this work is hard and sometimes you have to pivot or sometimes you have to burn

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the boat and jump.

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Nobody can make that happen for you or nobody can do it on your behalf.

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If everything breaks down and you are left with nothing, it's you.

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It's on you.

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And it's challenging.

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Sometimes the research we're pursuing doesn't work and we have to make the painful shift

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to a different research area or to a different mentoring opportunity.

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And really the gift is ours, the gift of building resilience, the gift of adapting is ours.

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And it's great when we can share those opportunities with mentors who can lead us and show us the

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right direction.

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And even if they don't exist or even if maybe a mentor is the cause of something that comes

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crashing down, you have the opportunity to grow in your resilience because you are taking

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ownership of your career.

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You're not looking for someone else to tell you whether you can move forward or not.

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You're deciding you can move forward and you're the one moving forward.

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And that is really, really empowering.

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Another thing is the importance of you continuing to learn.

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Because you are leading and taking ownership of your career, you have to learn what's needed

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for the next step and the next step and the next step after that.

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And sometimes it is a little bit anxiety provoking because it's like, no, just show me what to

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do.

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It's better if you show me what to do.

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But it's like exercising muscles in the gym, right?

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The more challenges you bring to this muscle, the better the definition of this muscle,

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the more amazing this muscle looks.

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And so continuous learning is the muscle that you're building as you're building your research

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program.

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You know how to find the information you need.

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And therefore, whenever challenges come up, you go after the information you need so that

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you can solve the problem.

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You become a problem solver for your own career.

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And so the opportunity to continuously learn rather than say, hey, just teach me all I

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need to know is great because lifelong learning is a skill you're always going to be building

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no matter where you find yourself.

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You are on an ongoing journey.

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You're growing, you're developing.

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And so as you're taking ownership, it means you start to look for opportunities to learn

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new skills, to develop new skills, to develop new strategies, to move your work forward.

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And in a sense, it's you becoming the leader and the director of your boat, the captain

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of your own enterprise.

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You're like, what do I need to move forward?

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Oh, this thing about hiring and firing is really hard.

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How do I go get the knowledge that I need for that?

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And it really helps you kind of like stay resilient and like continue to think about,

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OK, how do I move forward?

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Where do I go get this knowledge?

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Who has access to it?

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Rather than trying to get it all from one person.

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And so it just helps you kind of exercise the muscle of continuous learning, of continuous

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growth, of continued forward motion.

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And that is really, really awesome and super, super powerful.

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So definitely take ownership of your career so that you continue to learn in a way that

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just transforms your experience.

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I think the fifth thing I want to talk about is the importance of you doing your own networking

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and relationship building.

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And so many times as we're coming through in a mentor's research program, their contacts

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are our contacts.

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And when we first start, it's so important because, hey, you have no contacts.

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And so it's so helpful that your mentor is able to introduce you to amazing people.

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And it's great.

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And you also need to advance beyond that network to start connecting networks together.

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And so when you see yourself as being in charge of your own career, you take ownership of

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your own networking and relationship building.

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You don't wait and say, well, if I'm not introduced, then perhaps I don't need to know this person.

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You say, well, to what extent does this person fit within my research program?

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To what extent does their expertise help me?

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You are proactive.

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You're going after these relationships.

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You're actively nurturing them.

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In fact, you're seeking out new mentors, new collaborators.

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And sometimes I hear people think, well, if I go talk to another mentor, then am I being

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disloyal?

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And it can feel that way.

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But it's not disloyal.

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It's your career that you're building.

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And any feeling you have of being disloyal to one mentor because you go seek out another

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is not really healthy because your career is going to be on a different level than your

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primary research mentor's career.

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They started this career maybe 20, 30, 40 years before you.

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And you're just starting in a different era, in a different time zone, in a different era,

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really.

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And so the networks you're going to want to build are going to be different from those

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of your mentor.

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And so you want to be the one taking ownership for that, seeking out new mentors, seeking

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out new collaborations so that it can really help accelerate your career.

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And mentors are amazing.

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And I hope you don't get the sense that I don't think that our mentors are.

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They are.

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And would we go far without them?

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We might.

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It would be harder, but we still could.

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But it's important not to say you're going to put all your eggs in one basket.

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And if your mentor doesn't move forward in the one direction, then you have to decide

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you're not moving forward in that direction.

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So you get to choose.

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You get to choose because it's your own career.

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And so your mentor is great to provide you the kind of career guidance, support, and

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value insights that you need.

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But your career journey is yours.

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It's unique to you.

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Your life experiences all come together.

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And they're different.

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They're different than anything that anyone else has ever experienced.

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So nobody else can live your career for you.

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Even if they were born at the exact same time as you were, or even are from the same family

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as you, no one can lead your career like you can.

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And when you take ownership of your career, you empower yourself to make informed decisions.

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You're able to set and pursue your own goals.

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You can adapt to changes.

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You ultimately are able to create a path that aligns with your values and aspirations.

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You are saying, this is the path I'm choosing because it makes sense to me.

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And it's the path that I own.

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And it's really, really awesome and amazing and so powerful.

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So just to recap, when you're taking ownership of your own career, it allows you to take

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personal responsibility and not advocate it to someone else.

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It allows you to direct and lead your career so you have self-direction.

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It gives you opportunity for adaptability and resilience as you're making the decisions

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for how your career should go and where next to take it.

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It allows you to become a continuous learner.

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That's number four.

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And it just enhances your feelings of self-efficacy because you're someone who's continuously

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learning how to move your own career forward.

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And finally, it allows you to network and build your own relationships and take ownership

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for the network that you have so that you can move your career forward.

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All right.

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That's all I have for today's episode.

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If somebody else needs to hear this, please share it with them.

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And if you are a clinician looking to make the transition from clinician to clinician

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scientist, you're looking for a coach, I want to work with you.

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Please reach out to me on DM.

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I am on Instagram.

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I'm also on Facebook and I'm on LinkedIn as well.

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Send me a DM and let's set up a discovery call to see if it makes sense for us to move

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forward.

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All right.

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It was such a pleasure talking with you today.

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I look forward to the next time.

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Thanks for listening to this episode of the Clinician Researcher Podcast where academic

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clinicians learn the skills to build their own research program, whether or not they

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have a mentor.

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If you found the information in this episode to be helpful, don't keep it all to yourself.

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Someone else needs to hear it.

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So take a minute right now and share it.

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As you share this episode, you become part of our mission to help launch a new generation

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of clinician researchers who make transformative discoveries that change the way we do healthcare.

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Thank you.

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At this time, let's take a moment to make some comments.