your lash tech. I mean, you want to really brighten their eyes. You could do a little
bit of Gua Sha around our eyes at the end of treatment just to brighten it, right? If
you are doing manicures, nails, you could be adding that in your massage and helping
to break down the fascial lines in the tissue as well.
Our topic today is Gua Sha. Basically, what is it and why now?
Well, it's actually been around for a long time, but I think we can think like hashtag
and Instagram for really kicking this off to another level. It really started probably,
honestly, a couple of years ago, but it's taking off more and more as people are learning,
I think, that holistic side of things that they're incorporating into their lives, which
through that time of years ago, the C word and we'll bring it up, I think put people
in another level of understanding how important their health was and how little things can
help throughout inside to outside. And actually, it's Chinese medicine that from thousands
of years ago, I think back in the Stone Age, probably, where they first actually dated
back as a medical process in the medicine in a natural way. And it's developed, I mean,
what they've done with it is changed it slightly. I mean, you take it into North America's
hands and it will kind of customize to how it would work here. But even in Europe, I
mean, there's products based company of skincare that are incorporating this into treatments
as well because they're seeing the benefits and how it's helping and it changes it. So
if you're on that holistic side of your treatments and that is a great little tool to add into
it.
It is a great addition because I mean, this conversation kind of started when you were
giving me a treatment. And you were doing the Gua Sha massage. Is that fair to say a
Gua Sha massage?
Yeah, just starting the treatment.
Right, to show how you can incorporate the Gua Sha tool into your treatments.
Yeah. And it was really, really nice. And I remember asking you about it. And when you
said that it had been around for very long, my big thing is like, why now? What's wrong
with it?
Yes.
But that makes sense when you explain the 2020 probably.
Yeah, it was about, I think when it really took off more so because then what else were
you doing? You were probably online researching and looking and seeing things. And then how
it is once that trend happens in a sense is that it really takes off and then more and
more people are jumping into it and seeing. And I mean, home-based tools, you weren't
being able to go get treatments done. So it was really, that's what's so complementary
to this is you could have your treatments done professionally, but you can carry this
on at home as well. And it'll help. And I mean, physiotherapists do not think wash a
stone per se and it's not as gentle, but it's like a scraping and that's deep into the
tissue. And that's actually what they used to do in Chinese medicine. It wasn't this
gentle light kind of treatment. They did, but it was, I mean, they didn't have beautiful
carved out, gouache stones. They used, I think it was a bone, a rock's bone and then
a with a metal spoon, like, and hence where the metal comes into play with some of these
stones. But then you add that therapeutic side of stones. Like some people believe, you
know, that Jade, for example, is a stone of eternal youth.
So give me some tips.
And every stone, just you'll have to look into it yourself, not recommending anything
per se. It's just really see what resonates with you and what feels good. I mean, each
stone is going to represent the colors of the stone represents a big difference.
That's really interesting. And I think it gives estheticians that are doing the regular
facials or treatments, a way to add a more holistic relaxation element to their treatments.
Yeah. And even through, if you're, if you're a lash deck, I mean, and you want to really
brighten their eyes, you could do a little bit of gouache around our eyes at the end
of treatment just to brighten, right? If you are doing manicures, nails, you could be adding
that in your massage and helping to break down the fascial lines in the tissue as well.
Pedicures.
Yeah.
Same thing, right? Back treatment. I mean, the same thing.
The stones are amazing to be using in treatment. And I would just say, you know, you can take
like courses on it, workshops. You can also see online a lot of things. Just make sure
you're looking at some reputable and they know what they're doing with it because you
are working with a static system. And that's part of why it's so brightening and radiant.
And yeah. And then a lot of times with the products, they're sometimes they're putting
together like a protocol on how to implement it within your facial treatment. And I've
helped some institutions with that, with products that they're using. And how can they
implement this lens of S-type tip was and learn from it as well.
Okay. I have a lot of questions.
Okay.
The first thing I think kind of outline, maybe bullet pointed for us the benefits. You said
lymphatic and radiant skin. Yeah. But maybe just out one them again for us.
Okay. So basically, when you're working on skin, we know their circulatory system and
our lymphatic works, I guess you could say with our circulatory system. And the reason,
for example, in a facial, as some of you would know this is the reason we work outward and
down is because you're working with lymphatic. The reason we start on the chest area, the
decollete is the major lymph nodes are here. And you want to train that before you drain
from the face. So you're working that with your hands. So the same process would happen
with the stoves and then the direction of what you're doing. And the only thing I'd
add to that is when you look at pictures, I mean, even Google lymph nodes of the face
and the neck is going to include behind the ears. And that's why you take in behind the
ear as well and some of the treatments.
I think you did that with my treatment. It was really lovely. And then you used temperature
changes, which was my favorite part, because you started off with warm and then the cold,
which I was hesitant because I don't like cold things. I don't want to be cold, but
it was actually really nice. I really liked it.
So I would I play with it a little bit. You can do the reversal to depending on what your
outcome is. So what is the purpose of the temperature?
So my theory of doing warm first was to holistically that relaxation, the settling for the client,
and then working warmth on the skin is going to start to soften everything as well and
bring some circulatory to the stop. So it starts working with lymphatic. At the end,
when I did cool, it's that same concept at the end of a treatment when you want to have
not a hot facial like towel on the end. That's just me personally. I like to do things where
it cools slightly. So it's just everything's kind of, you know, are saying is closing the
pores even though we know we don't close pores. But that idea of just calming everything
back down and then weirdly enough, it feels really good when you have the cooling on the
skin too. So I know most people are like, I don't like cold. I don't want it cold. And
it didn't go as cold on you too. No, wait, that that wasn't your favorite part of the
facial was the cold. But yeah, it's we're really working with the the body itself, the
tissues of the skin, the circulatory, the lymph. And you need to one thing about lymph, and
that's why they say you need to move your body every day is because lymph just doesn't
just naturally kind of drain on its own like it's through working the body and like pressure.
That's always the biggest thing. And so it's so light. Yeah. And you can even I mean, they're
getting so creative out there. It's amazing to watch it going in the mouth. And they're
working on the cheek and the and the TMJ. You need to take your proper training on these
things. But there are physiotherapists that are doing chiropractors doing it really working
in there. And so on ours, just stay within the, you know, the protocols of what you're
trained to do as well, which leads me to my next question in that, can I just go pick
up wash us stones and start doing it? If I'm an esthetician and I just kind of wing it
and incorporate it in my facials, or is it recommended to actually follow a treatment
or find a YouTube video? What do you recommend? Yeah, I mean, out there now, I mean, there's
so many resources to look at. I don't know if they're good or bad. It's really, I would
look at disperstopt. Does your product line have anything? Maybe they have treatments
already that they're, you know, they're doing we're fortunate enough with the brands that
we carry that they're really on top of these things. And I mean, they already started this
last year, bringing the protocols into a specific treatment, and then training everyone on it
so they could launch it. And that was early this year already. So they do take it quite
seriously and respect the fact that this is holistic Chinese medicine. They're not just
bringing and winging it. They did their research, they're looking. So that's one way I would
do it. The other way is to look for places that are offering courses. And what is their
background and what do they know about it as well? Yes, you can go on a YouTube video,
but there's just that would be a great way to start to see if it's even something you
would want to do. Yeah, and maybe do it on yourself first to see what you think of it.
We'll get a treatment. Go get it. Come to me. I'll do it. Yeah. But on you. Do the
hot colds. Yes, you might have to travel, but that's okay. Worth it, I promise. Yes.
Yes, she's good. You could also come to beauty culting. Yes. Yes, that's right. Yes. Yeah.
So we could just plug beauty cult in there shamelessly. Yes, that's okay. What else?
I think one thing about Chinese medicine, I wrote this down so I wouldn't forget it
because I read this out of an article from Vogue who brought this up like years ago and
it says that Chinese medicine basically it's learned the root of what's causing your imbalance
with the emotional emotional issues. So that's where that holistic side comes to play with
it. And that's why I think if you're into holistic side of anything health wise for
your body, then I think you'll understand a little bit more because they're really
balancing the chi, the energy of the body, that type of thing. And if you're going for
acupuncture, you're going for cupping, you're going for time massage, you're going like
there's so many things without realizing that you're incorporating holistic treatment in
what you're having done right now or what you're delivering to your clients without
really recently. Right. Realizing what you're doing. Do you think that if an esthetician
is already doing services but not using holistic treatments, is that something that you would
recommend they explore? I would recommend that because if you're not doing it yet, you need
to look at doing it because that's where the trend is. I did a podcast on this, on the
trends and what's going on in our industry because everyone's worried what's happening
to this industry. And I said if you keep up with it, you'll understand that the holistic
side, again, I think because of what happened in our worldwide situation three years ago,
it made people learn about health and educated people to take care of themselves. And even
if you're a medical spot, you can look at incorporating these things in. And you'll want to so that
you're staying with the trends of what's going on so that you know, for example, you can't
be doing clients that fillers and Botox and there's a lot of protocols to it. But you
can do things before you offer the treatment and offer that relaxation side, offer that
tranquility and that calm of everything. Because a lot of times a facial is a facial but what
we do during it before, after manicure, pedicure, Botox treatment, whatever it may be, you can
really probably bring in a little more zen into people's lives. And it does for you too
because you have to, you can't be uptight when you're delivering this type of treatment
because you're they're going to know that.
And sense your energy.
Yeah, and you can't fake it. Like you learn it, practice it, it's really good to do. And
if you want to practice, I'll be your model.
Or me. I'm a really good model. I did want to note that the show that you referenced,
we'll just put a link to that show in the description so you can go back and watch the
trends episode.
Oh, yes.
The Beauty Babble.
Yeah. So I am seeing, I'm looking at your computer and checking out your notes. And
I'm seeing some crystals. Yeah. So they're used made up of stones. I have one.
Is there some that you would recommend? Like let's say I'm on the hunt for some quash of
stones. Which ones should I get? I don't know. Like what would you recommend? What type?
And what's the difference?
So many questions. I know. Well, like for example, I mean, a clear stone is always an
easy one that goes with any type of skin, energy-wise as well. So this is for all types
of soothing, it's cooling. And this is just your crystal, clear crystal. But I mean, you
can get rose quartz, you can get jade, you can get, there's so many stones out there.
And if you follow that, which you should ask your clients, because you'd be surprised how
many people even carry a stone on them because of whatever they're going through. There's
so many people have taken my rose quartz. Exactly. And so maybe ask them why and do your research
with your client base to see, you know, where you can start. It's such a small investment.
And if you are, I would really recommend the other side of that is you should carry it so
that your clients can do it at home as well. So they're really, yeah, and you can retail
it and just be mindful of the costs because I mean, you can go on Amazon guys and get
this stuff for fairly reasonably priced. So just be mindful of that. And you know, the
different, there's so many stones. Is there one that you shouldn't do or that's not, it
depends on the, it's going to be based on the service you're doing. So like the black stone,
absedin, obsidian, thank you. That is going to be for your congested acne skin because
this more warming is decongesting that type of thing. I'm going to go home take all my
crystals and start decongesting my skin. I'm going to show you the one that I was using
at the start and I'm actually loving this is caught me doing it before. And what we're
doing in Guaccia, say, well, I should do this really quick on myself. Hadaka actually has
this and it's a metal one, but it has microcurrents in it. So if you're an esthetician, you'll
understand microcurrents. So basically it's going to help with more drainage and clearing
the skin, we like building up that circulation. And because it's metal, it's soothing. It's
a really heavy feel. Have you felt this yet? No. And how you won't feel microcurrents with
this like it's not a plugin type. So you don't feel it, but it is in there. Well, that's
not the engineer of it. But we should find out. Yeah, I'm going to find out who did this
and maybe they'll come on and talk to us about it. Yeah, why they developed it. But that's
another great thing. But the thing is to charge it, you'd need to leave it in the light. So
if you close it up, that's so cool. That's amazing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And light in general.
It's not something like, yeah, okay. Just any light will help charge that. So this one
is newer to me even though it's been around for a little while. But I like it because
it's so cooling. So if I want it to be really cool, like, you know, when you're on your
computer all day and you're strained with your eyes, they did this the other day and
that's hard to think of these things of ourselves because we're busy trying to develop for you.
Yeah. I took it and ran under cold water. And I just went around my eyes and you know,
that tension that you get from concentrating, it just relieved it. I'm like, oh, you know,
I usually go to coffee, but now I can, you know, feel a difference in my face and in
my eyes. And I don't know, like, I'm sure it looks really smooth, but just the feel
of it is so comforting. Yes. And I think one of them were the similar. It's so soft. I'll
show you the difference with the stone in this one. That's pretty, she doesn't mind
it all, right? So when you feel this one, so I don't have anything on your skin right
now. Oh, your nails. Oh, thanks. Don't bother mine. And feel the difference. It's a little
heavier. It is. It's very cooling. It is very different. Yeah. So it depends what you're
looking to do and how to do it. And you don't have to go heavy. I can go really light and
control it or allow the weight of it to do the work. Do you feel the difference? I do.
Yeah. Actually, I need to feel it again. Can I feel it? Well, you can. It actually hurts.
And you know, another neat thing to do is depending on what products you have, you can add in
products that help with tight skin, tight muscles. So like even chiropractors and that
like some are getting more into these things and are using the products that they have
to assist it. So you can go even deeper with it or maybe you have essential oils and you
can use essential oils as a calming. Right. I'm starting to. She's not going to run. So
we're going to. So relaxing. Yeah. So I think like keep up, start like, check out the podcast
because we're trying to bring in these things because I think that's something that we want
to help support the beauty industry. And if you have a question about something like a
trend, let us know. Yeah. Maybe you'll see. There's like, it's a form that is so that
we have your contact information so we can reach out to you if we need more information
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Microdemigration. What's your question? Yeah. What is it that you want to know? Because
we can talk about all sorts of things. Well, I sure can. Totally. Yeah. So if we have things
like that, then I contacted, then I understood what they were looking for. You know, another
one was like all about business. It's like, where do I begin? It's a very broad. It's
a very broad. Yeah. So do send us the questions. You'll see it under our link, like how to
reach us and yeah, it'll be in the description, the show notes. It'll help us because we
want to make the things that you want to listen to and watch and we might not know about
it. But it'll help us learn. And maybe I could get another treatment in the process. Exactly.
And then maybe we can even get the expert involved because we are bringing in guests
to come and interview. Very exciting. Yeah. We've got them all lined up. So we're excited
for this to get a little more in depth with this resource of information for you all.
Absolutely. And if anybody has questions, like you're very great at answering questions
too, so they can reach out to us anytime or social media. Help us a question and we will
try to answer if we can. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Awesome. Okay. This has been great. I think
I need some more treatments. So maybe we can go do that now. I think I need to show you
how so I can get it and then tell her, I think you need to do the. I need to practice. Awesome.
Well, thank you. Yes. Thanks for the expertise and for the treatment that was a couple days
ago, but I have not forgotten. It was lovely. Excellent. Well, thanks to everyone for joining
us. And we'll see you at the next episode. Yes. Thanks for listening to Beauty Babble.